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Speaker 1: Well, hi everybody, and welcome to Onward, my very first podcast,

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Speaker 1: on my very first episode. On this my sixty first birthday.

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Speaker 1: That's right, I am sixty wonderful years old, and it's

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Speaker 1: hard for me to believe. Well, thank you for come

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Speaker 1: and catching this wave with me. The goal is we

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Speaker 1: will be together for about an hour at a time

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Speaker 1: each week and we'll share some human wisdom of hope, inspiration,

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Speaker 1: and a little humor, a little comedy, a little a

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Speaker 1: little love, people, just a little bit of love. You

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Speaker 1: can send me your thoughts and questions by voice memo,

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Speaker 1: and it took me a while to figure out how

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Speaker 1: you do that. You make a voice memo on your

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Speaker 1: phone and then you send it to me via email,

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Speaker 1: and my email is Onward Rosie at gmail dot com.

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Speaker 1: Once again, Onward Rosie at gmail dot com, and I

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Speaker 1: will take your voice memos and we will answer some

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Speaker 1: of them right here on this podcast. So Onward. My

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Speaker 1: first conversation is with Sharon Gless, a true friend of mine.

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Speaker 1: I love her, I love her, I love her. We

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Speaker 1: became friends many years ago when I was doing a

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Speaker 1: guest spot on Queer as Folk and when they called

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Speaker 1: and asked me would you be on the show. I said,

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Speaker 1: of course, I will be on that show, and you

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Speaker 1: must write in a kiss between my character and Sharon

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Speaker 1: gless And I'm happy to say that they did exactly that.

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Speaker 1: I kissed her, and I've never been the same. That's

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Speaker 1: all I can say. We've remained really good friends in

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Speaker 1: each other's lives for the last thirty years, and I'm

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Speaker 1: so grateful for it. I really am. She's the kind

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Speaker 1: of friend who just shows up. I was in San

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Speaker 1: Francisco and couldn't get out of the hospital with a

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Speaker 1: friend who was quite ill, and two weeks we were

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Speaker 1: stuck there and one day there was a text on

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Speaker 1: my phone and she said, do you want some iced tea?

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Speaker 1: On my text, I'm like, Glessie. She's like, yeah, you

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Speaker 1: were crying so much last night on the phone. I

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Speaker 1: knew I had to show up, and she did. She

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Speaker 1: was sitting there outside of my room holding an iced

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Speaker 1: tea in a Starbucks croissant, and she gave me the

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Speaker 1: took control and got us a flight home on a

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Speaker 1: ambulance plane, and she was amazing. I can tell you that,

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Speaker 1: you know, if you're ever in need, Sharon Gless will

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Speaker 1: show up for you, and she has shown up for me,

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Speaker 1: and I will continue to show up for her because

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Speaker 1: I truly truly adore her, I really do, and I

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Speaker 1: hope that you will too. So we're going to kick

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Speaker 1: who you know and love. I'll be back with Sharon

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Speaker 1: glass All right, well, welcome to my first podcast of

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Speaker 1: Onward with Rosie o'donald. You know how I got this name, Glassie? No,

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Speaker 1: I was like, you know, I turned sixty and I'm

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Speaker 1: looking around and going, what do I have to do?

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Speaker 1: What have I left to do? What can I possibly will?

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Speaker 1: You know what? Throw everything that happened already out and

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Speaker 1: now from here onward. I love that so much. I

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Speaker 1: think I just programmed you into my life again because

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Speaker 1: I'm about to turn eighty. I know, honey, isn't that amazing?

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Speaker 1: And I need something to say when I make that turn.

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Speaker 1: That's it. Onward. You know what I'm doing? What are

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Speaker 1: you gonna be doing? I'm doing something I always wanted

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Speaker 1: to do. I'm crossing the Atlantic, crossing the Atlantic on

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Speaker 1: Oh my god, how wonderful is that going to be?

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Speaker 1: Is it the best? Got a fancy suite? Yes? And

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Speaker 1: for you. Can you believe that you're going to be

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Speaker 1: eighty and that I'm going to be sixty one? I

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Speaker 1: the new face of eighty. All these eighty year olds

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Speaker 1: don't need something to go forward. I just need my will,

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Speaker 1: you know, my will and my soul and exactly and

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Speaker 1: my dreams. My dreams have always sustained me. So I

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Speaker 1: think I have to get some new dreams. That's important.

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Speaker 1: When you were that little kid growing up in La,

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Speaker 1: did you dream all this when you were that little

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Speaker 1: rich girl in the Hollywood royalty family. Apparently you did that.

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Speaker 1: You manifested it all happened. Yeah, I did dream it.

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Speaker 1: I didn't know how it quite manifest, as you said,

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Speaker 1: Really was all movies. I do remember sitting in front

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Speaker 1: with that song god da da Da Da Dada, that's

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Speaker 1: what they used to play to open the Oscars every year,

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Speaker 1: very important any of your listeners. If you have dreams,

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Speaker 1: you don't need to know what it's going to look like,

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Speaker 1: wanted you to tell everyone who your grandfather was. Oh,

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Speaker 1: it does, Okay. His name was Neil S. McCarthy, because

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Speaker 1: Neil S. McCarthy. And he was, for sure all a

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Speaker 1: very very poor boy from Phoenix, Arizona. His father drove

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Speaker 1: be De Mills, Louispi, mayors, yes, and on and on

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Speaker 1: and did these people like floated and out of your world?

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Speaker 1: like kids? I don't think I never met him. I

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Speaker 1: asked my grandfather what he was like, and when my

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Speaker 1: would never tell stories. Right. They looked in my grandfather's

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Speaker 1: My grandfather already died. But anyway, when Grandpa died, I

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Speaker 1: being nosy, I just opened up the card and had

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Speaker 1: You have nothing to show for it. It's a little rough.

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Speaker 1: I was quiet. She said, just say it. Just give

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Speaker 1: I said, I want to be an actress. She said,

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Speaker 1: I said, I asked Mary, please not to tell you Grandpa.

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Speaker 1: I knew this is what you'd say. He said, I mean,

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Speaker 1: it's ridiculous. You think i'd stop you? Oh? I said, really,

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Speaker 1: about the business being filthy. Right, he says, so what

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Speaker 1: turn your whole life around, change your whole world. Yes,

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00:23:39,560 --> 00:23:41,199
Speaker 1: I said, thank you so much, and I went and

423
00:23:41,400 --> 00:23:44,760
Speaker 1: threw up. And I'm not a person who does that, right,

424
00:23:44,920 --> 00:23:47,840
Speaker 1: But I was in such shock and my dream had

425
00:23:47,840 --> 00:23:50,920
Speaker 1: come true. It's not like I thought she was wrong, right,

426
00:23:51,080 --> 00:23:53,080
Speaker 1: Do you know what I mean? I do. I wouldn't

427
00:23:53,160 --> 00:23:57,080
Speaker 1: argue with her. It's just, oh my god, how did

428
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,760
Speaker 1: this happen? I've been to contract to the biggest television

429
00:24:00,040 --> 00:24:02,040
Speaker 1: you do in the world, and I haven't been in

430
00:24:02,040 --> 00:24:05,640
Speaker 1: front of a camera, right, So it was that RAN

431
00:24:06,160 --> 00:24:08,960
Speaker 1: don't know how it's going to appear, but you do

432
00:24:09,480 --> 00:24:12,199
Speaker 1: need to know how you're going to feel, right, And

433
00:24:12,359 --> 00:24:15,359
Speaker 1: how did you feel. I was so excited I was

434
00:24:15,400 --> 00:24:17,479
Speaker 1: having I was supposed to have Every Thursday, I had

435
00:24:17,560 --> 00:24:21,679
Speaker 1: dinner with my grandfather, and I was so excited I

436
00:24:21,720 --> 00:24:25,760
Speaker 1: forgot about him. I left him stranded at dinner and

437
00:24:25,840 --> 00:24:28,679
Speaker 1: he was so curious. He wasn't talking to me, and

438
00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:31,200
Speaker 1: so I said, please, you know, grandpa, give me another chance.

439
00:24:31,480 --> 00:24:35,960
Speaker 1: I got this contract. And so he agreed to see

440
00:24:36,000 --> 00:24:39,280
Speaker 1: me the next evening, and I brought my contract with me.

441
00:24:39,359 --> 00:24:44,600
Speaker 1: You know, I said, Grandpa, they're only offering me one

442
00:24:44,680 --> 00:24:47,000
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty six dollars a week. I make two

443
00:24:47,080 --> 00:24:49,800
Speaker 1: hundred dollars a week as the secretary. He said, let

444
00:24:49,800 --> 00:24:51,800
Speaker 1: me see this. I said, you know Lou wassonman. He said,

445
00:24:51,800 --> 00:24:53,560
Speaker 1: to know him very well. Let me see it. And

446
00:24:53,600 --> 00:24:58,120
Speaker 1: then he said, Sharon, do you want to be an actress? Yes, Grandpa,

447
00:24:58,280 --> 00:25:02,680
Speaker 1: then sign it, right. But I thought, actress has made

448
00:25:02,720 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 1: a lot of money. And he said, Sharon, you have

449
00:25:05,640 --> 00:25:08,080
Speaker 1: to be coming from a position of power from which

450
00:25:08,119 --> 00:25:11,639
Speaker 1: to negotiate. You are not smart. Man. Sign it and

451
00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:14,600
Speaker 1: let's see where you are next year. That's good, and

452
00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,080
Speaker 1: he died. He never saw me in film. What was

453
00:25:17,119 --> 00:25:20,440
Speaker 1: your first role that you got after signing that contract

454
00:25:21,400 --> 00:25:25,360
Speaker 1: at Universal. There's one show that always gives a new

455
00:25:25,400 --> 00:25:27,720
Speaker 1: contract player their first part. You don't even have to

456
00:25:27,760 --> 00:25:30,879
Speaker 1: read for it. It's Marcus Welby and they let every

457
00:25:30,960 --> 00:25:33,840
Speaker 1: new actor have a part on their show so you

458
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,960
Speaker 1: can get your Screen Actress Guild card. How wonderful. Yeah,

459
00:25:38,040 --> 00:25:42,240
Speaker 1: so the first one I did was Marcus Welby. Do

460
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:45,880
Speaker 1: you remember Laneaverdugo. Was she on Marcus Wellby? She played

461
00:25:45,880 --> 00:25:50,000
Speaker 1: the nurse. Yes, I do. She played Consuelo, the nurse.

462
00:25:50,800 --> 00:25:54,040
Speaker 1: I lost a wallet when I was a kid. I

463
00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,480
Speaker 1: was a little teenager and I lost a wallet and

464
00:25:56,600 --> 00:25:58,719
Speaker 1: I got it sent to me in my boarding school,

465
00:26:00,040 --> 00:26:03,399
Speaker 1: said Eve Ordugo. Elena Rduco was known in those days.

466
00:26:04,040 --> 00:26:06,879
Speaker 1: And I opened it. It was from Elena. So when

467
00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:08,679
Speaker 1: I got back from boardey school, I went to her

468
00:26:08,720 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: apartment and I thanked her for sending me my wallet.

469
00:26:13,480 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 1: And there I am sitting next to her. Years and

470
00:26:16,840 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 1: years later on the Marcus Willby said, and I said,

471
00:26:19,200 --> 00:26:21,800
Speaker 1: do you remember the little girl who lost her wallet? Wow?

472
00:26:22,240 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 1: I said, well I am she. Wow. That's wild, that

473
00:26:26,240 --> 00:26:30,280
Speaker 1: is wild. I know. I never missed Marcus WELLBMD with

474
00:26:30,400 --> 00:26:34,720
Speaker 1: Josh Broland right or what's his name, Jim Brooks, streisand

475
00:26:34,800 --> 00:26:37,600
Speaker 1: Hubby I know. Well then I was asked to come

476
00:26:37,600 --> 00:26:39,879
Speaker 1: back on Marcus Willbey a couple of years later and

477
00:26:40,000 --> 00:26:43,359
Speaker 1: play his love interest. And I just thanked. Really I

478
00:26:43,480 --> 00:26:47,720
Speaker 1: was so there was nothing between us, nothing, and I

479
00:26:47,760 --> 00:26:51,800
Speaker 1: got fired. No chemistry, no chemistry, wasn't he was. He

480
00:26:51,920 --> 00:26:54,280
Speaker 1: was nice and he was all right and when we

481
00:26:54,440 --> 00:26:58,399
Speaker 1: just nothing kind of like your your date was Steven Spielberg. Nothing.

482
00:26:59,080 --> 00:27:02,800
Speaker 1: I know. I wasn't his type, right, but he was

483
00:27:02,840 --> 00:27:05,160
Speaker 1: a nice man. He didn't talk to me much on

484
00:27:05,200 --> 00:27:07,560
Speaker 1: the date. They put you together, just like they would

485
00:27:07,600 --> 00:27:09,919
Speaker 1: they would link people up and say, you guys, go

486
00:27:09,920 --> 00:27:12,600
Speaker 1: out to dinner. He was like a photo opportunity, I guess,

487
00:27:12,680 --> 00:27:16,560
Speaker 1: you know, one of those things. When he needed a

488
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: date for the very first Oh it's that big night await.

489
00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: John Ford was the first honoree and he needed a date,

490
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,679
Speaker 1: I guess. And so my picture was sent. A lot

491
00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,560
Speaker 1: of pictures from Universal were sent to Richard Zanik over

492
00:27:31,560 --> 00:27:34,720
Speaker 1: a twentieth and Zanek looked at all the photos and

493
00:27:34,720 --> 00:27:38,240
Speaker 1: he picked me. So they dressed me up in black

494
00:27:38,359 --> 00:27:41,320
Speaker 1: velvet coat and he came to pick me up and

495
00:27:41,640 --> 00:27:45,240
Speaker 1: it was black tie and he opened up his tuxedo

496
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,240
Speaker 1: and had a Roadrunner T shirt on. He says, beat me.

497
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,560
Speaker 1: It's the first thing he ever said to me. Did

498
00:27:52,600 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: you ever see him after? And have you seen him since?

499
00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:58,080
Speaker 1: Never said him again? I mean I've seen him in passing.

500
00:27:58,119 --> 00:28:00,440
Speaker 1: I didn't. I saw him at a party like ten

501
00:28:00,520 --> 00:28:03,480
Speaker 1: years fifteen years later, and whatever to him? I said, Steve,

502
00:28:03,560 --> 00:28:05,280
Speaker 1: And I'm sure, guess it's so nice to see you.

503
00:28:05,400 --> 00:28:07,159
Speaker 1: I wondered what had ever happened to you and in

504
00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:10,960
Speaker 1: the industry, you know, if you'd ever made it? I did.

505
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,960
Speaker 1: Poor guy just needs a break. He was a nice

506
00:28:16,000 --> 00:28:19,600
Speaker 1: man and just there was no chemistry, right, as if

507
00:28:19,600 --> 00:28:21,840
Speaker 1: there was no chemistry with James Roland. I had hard

508
00:28:21,840 --> 00:28:24,680
Speaker 1: time hooking me up man, right, which is hard to believe,

509
00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:28,840
Speaker 1: but that's true. You have a wonderful kind of spiritual

510
00:28:29,000 --> 00:28:34,480
Speaker 1: belief life. You have a metaphysical perspective on the world,

511
00:28:34,720 --> 00:28:39,360
Speaker 1: your life, manifesting things. You have always studied this. When

512
00:28:39,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 1: did that begin? Ever? Since I've known you thirty years now,

513
00:28:43,360 --> 00:28:46,040
Speaker 1: you've been well, it was before Cagney and Lacy, it

514
00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,840
Speaker 1: was almost forty years. You're absolutely right. My foray into

515
00:28:51,880 --> 00:28:54,640
Speaker 1: spirituality was my best friend Judithan and I used to

516
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:59,960
Speaker 1: do the Luigi board the spirituality me and Jackie too.

517
00:29:00,080 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 1: He did it, yeah, exactly. God knows what we were

518
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:07,600
Speaker 1: bringing in, but that thing did fly without our touching it. Yes,

519
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:10,320
Speaker 1: the spirits do appear, but they're probably not the level

520
00:29:10,440 --> 00:29:13,760
Speaker 1: that you would want hanging out with you. So then

521
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: we heard about this metaphysical teacher friend named Lazaris. So

522
00:29:21,720 --> 00:29:24,000
Speaker 1: when we had to interview to get into his class,

523
00:29:24,520 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 1: and I didn't get accepted, but Judithan did. And then

524
00:29:28,480 --> 00:29:31,560
Speaker 1: I was told that Lazaris, who was the teacher, felt

525
00:29:31,600 --> 00:29:35,040
Speaker 1: that I wasn't ready, so he wanted Judithan to go

526
00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,600
Speaker 1: before me. So she came back and she called me

527
00:29:38,640 --> 00:29:40,680
Speaker 1: and I mean, she and I are just trouble. Do

528
00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:45,760
Speaker 1: you know we're fun? And she very seriously said, Sharon Marguerite,

529
00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:51,560
Speaker 1: it's going to change your life. WHOA, Okay, So I

530
00:29:51,600 --> 00:29:53,400
Speaker 1: got on a plane to go have my life changed.

531
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:58,000
Speaker 1: All right? Right, it was still, I mean, it was

532
00:29:58,560 --> 00:30:01,719
Speaker 1: not hard, but it was. And I understood what he

533
00:30:01,800 --> 00:30:04,120
Speaker 1: was saying. I just wanted to believe it was true.

534
00:30:04,440 --> 00:30:08,360
Speaker 1: Right then I do it to know, right right, When

535
00:30:08,360 --> 00:30:10,479
Speaker 1: we're children, we can blame all kinds of people, but

536
00:30:10,520 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: you know it's an adult. He said, it's you. You

537
00:30:12,760 --> 00:30:17,360
Speaker 1: get to do it. And after what I believed him,

538
00:30:17,400 --> 00:30:20,280
Speaker 1: and it became exciting because you know what, Row, I

539
00:30:20,280 --> 00:30:24,000
Speaker 1: could stop blaming, right I except blaming my grandmother who

540
00:30:24,040 --> 00:30:26,880
Speaker 1: you read about in my book. Yes I did, and

541
00:30:27,320 --> 00:30:30,000
Speaker 1: I was so relieved I could let her off the hook.

542
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:34,840
Speaker 1: I'm an adult now right onward on it. From now on,

543
00:30:35,000 --> 00:30:38,640
Speaker 1: it's my ride. It's my exactly, either I choose to

544
00:30:38,680 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 1: create it or not. And if I don't get what

545
00:30:40,920 --> 00:30:42,280
Speaker 1: I want, and I have to sort of look at

546
00:30:42,320 --> 00:30:44,160
Speaker 1: what it is that is the payoff for me, and

547
00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:46,000
Speaker 1: you're not get it right. I don't mean to be

548
00:30:46,080 --> 00:30:48,560
Speaker 1: lecturing you or anything. It's not a lecture at all.

549
00:30:48,600 --> 00:30:51,240
Speaker 1: I find it fascinating, I really do. And I think

550
00:30:51,280 --> 00:30:55,040
Speaker 1: it's kept you so centered in your life and your beliefs.

551
00:30:55,080 --> 00:30:58,280
Speaker 1: I know you've been through some tremendous loss. I know

552
00:30:58,360 --> 00:31:01,120
Speaker 1: your best friend Judith that you speak, she passed away,

553
00:31:01,200 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: and how do you survive that? And now that I'm

554
00:31:05,000 --> 00:31:07,160
Speaker 1: going to be sixty one and I've had my best

555
00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 1: friend Jackie since I'm three, and we're like fused at

556
00:31:10,400 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: the hip, and I can't imagine what will happen when

557
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 1: one of us goes for the other one? You know, well,

558
00:31:18,080 --> 00:31:21,640
Speaker 1: I think time, first of all, is the great healer.

559
00:31:22,600 --> 00:31:25,840
Speaker 1: But you two have to have an understanding and a

560
00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:30,840
Speaker 1: knowledge that you are always together. Right, one of you

561
00:31:30,920 --> 00:31:32,920
Speaker 1: may go before the other, but it doesn't mean they're

562
00:31:32,920 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: going to leave you. Because I believe you can call

563
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:39,200
Speaker 1: her in. Yeah, I believe she will always be there

564
00:31:39,240 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: for you. Yeah, she always has. If in the physical

565
00:31:42,520 --> 00:31:46,400
Speaker 1: form you or her, you will always be together. How

566
00:31:46,440 --> 00:31:48,800
Speaker 1: old were you when you met Judith? You're a kid

567
00:31:49,720 --> 00:31:53,280
Speaker 1: birth birth. It put us in a grib together. She's

568
00:31:53,280 --> 00:31:55,760
Speaker 1: a month older than I am, and our parents were

569
00:31:55,800 --> 00:31:59,680
Speaker 1: best friends, and we were you born a month apart,

570
00:31:59,720 --> 00:32:01,720
Speaker 1: and so they put us in a grip together. As

571
00:32:01,760 --> 00:32:04,760
Speaker 1: I said her funeral, I fell in love and I

572
00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:08,360
Speaker 1: never recovered. She was beaten to me sometimes, but I

573
00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:11,160
Speaker 1: you know, I care. I just took it because I

574
00:32:11,680 --> 00:32:13,840
Speaker 1: did love her. And you were estranged at the end,

575
00:32:13,880 --> 00:32:18,160
Speaker 1: I remember, right we were. But um, yeah, I got rough.

576
00:32:18,200 --> 00:32:21,760
Speaker 1: She got cancer, and she did some stuff that wasn't nice.

577
00:32:22,040 --> 00:32:27,040
Speaker 1: But she fought ten years with that cancer, right, and

578
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,600
Speaker 1: the day that she heard from the doctrine that the

579
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:33,720
Speaker 1: fight was over. You know, there was no hope. Right.

580
00:32:34,040 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: She came to the one with me and she leaned

581
00:32:35,760 --> 00:32:38,160
Speaker 1: over and she whispered my ear because her daughter was

582
00:32:38,240 --> 00:32:42,040
Speaker 1: present and my niece Bridge, you know, Bridgie, and um.

583
00:32:42,320 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: She said, I'm sorry, I can't keep my promise to

584
00:32:45,680 --> 00:32:50,120
Speaker 1: grow old with you. And I thought, what I say

585
00:32:50,280 --> 00:32:57,520
Speaker 1: now is really important. And I turned to her. This

586
00:32:57,680 --> 00:33:02,560
Speaker 1: was twenty years ago, and I said, I think sixteen

587
00:33:02,640 --> 00:33:06,760
Speaker 1: years is a fucking good run, don't you. Yeah, she

588
00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:12,360
Speaker 1: lit up, and she said, it is, it is, it is.

589
00:33:13,480 --> 00:33:17,360
Speaker 1: You don't fear dying for yourself, do you? No? No,

590
00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,440
Speaker 1: But I'd like to do it in bed. You know,

591
00:33:19,480 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 1: I don't want I'm going to be hit by a truck,

592
00:33:22,600 --> 00:33:24,880
Speaker 1: you know, I'd like I'd like to do it peacefully

593
00:33:25,000 --> 00:33:29,200
Speaker 1: and with people I love. You're like, I know I'm

594
00:33:29,240 --> 00:33:30,800
Speaker 1: in an age, but I think I'm gonna live forever.

595
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:33,320
Speaker 1: But I know I should be saying to all the

596
00:33:33,360 --> 00:33:35,400
Speaker 1: people I love the things that I want to say

597
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:39,040
Speaker 1: to them at the end. But I don't. But it's

598
00:33:39,080 --> 00:33:40,520
Speaker 1: more of it to go around and saying this. And

599
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:43,160
Speaker 1: if I never get a chance to tell you, yeah,

600
00:33:43,680 --> 00:33:45,560
Speaker 1: but roe, if I never get a chance to tell you.

601
00:33:45,600 --> 00:33:48,080
Speaker 1: I love you and you have changed my life. I'm

602
00:33:48,080 --> 00:33:51,320
Speaker 1: saying that to you, Rosie O'Donnell. Well, thank you, Sharon

603
00:33:51,320 --> 00:33:54,240
Speaker 1: gless You've done the same for me. Oh, thank you.

604
00:33:54,240 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 1: You have a wonderful way of keeping close and connected

605
00:33:58,080 --> 00:34:00,440
Speaker 1: to the people you love. You fall in love and

606
00:34:00,520 --> 00:34:03,160
Speaker 1: you don't fall out. I don't. I'm still in love

607
00:34:03,200 --> 00:34:06,680
Speaker 1: with you. Well, diddo, honey, right back at Yanks. I'm

608
00:34:06,680 --> 00:34:09,040
Speaker 1: not kidding. It's been since I saw you on Cagney

609
00:34:09,040 --> 00:34:12,080
Speaker 1: and Lacy. I was sitting in Komac Along Island on

610
00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,880
Speaker 1: the Levitts plaid brown couch with a TV that had

611
00:34:15,920 --> 00:34:21,000
Speaker 1: a broken turn signal, and we had wires from the

612
00:34:21,080 --> 00:34:24,520
Speaker 1: hangars to to make it come in good like it

613
00:34:24,640 --> 00:34:29,440
Speaker 1: shocks me, you know, and everybody I know, all the

614
00:34:29,480 --> 00:34:32,240
Speaker 1: girls who were on the softball team and the basketball team,

615
00:34:32,280 --> 00:34:35,160
Speaker 1: they only had eyes for Glessie. They did not care

616
00:34:35,239 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 1: for Mary Beth Lacey. Just let me tell you right now.

617
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,480
Speaker 1: The men all were in love with Tyno, and all

618
00:34:40,480 --> 00:34:43,680
Speaker 1: the lesbians wanted you. Yeah. Oh, should we tell the

619
00:34:43,719 --> 00:34:45,680
Speaker 1: story as we go? Sure? If you want me to,

620
00:34:46,480 --> 00:34:48,680
Speaker 1: I don't mind sit in the book, go ahead, tell okay,

621
00:34:49,520 --> 00:34:51,839
Speaker 1: Row and I had been friends rowe came to do

622
00:34:52,239 --> 00:34:56,040
Speaker 1: queer as Folk with us, and we got really close, yes,

623
00:34:56,600 --> 00:34:59,759
Speaker 1: and then you invited me on on those cruises or

624
00:34:59,800 --> 00:35:02,360
Speaker 1: not or a relationship just get blossoming and blossoming, and

625
00:35:02,840 --> 00:35:06,719
Speaker 1: I don't know what happened, but you just loved me

626
00:35:06,800 --> 00:35:12,080
Speaker 1: for who I was. I had this dream about you

627
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:15,720
Speaker 1: one night and we were really really like really really

628
00:35:15,760 --> 00:35:19,440
Speaker 1: close intimate friends and you're Rosie O'Donnell. And in my

629
00:35:19,520 --> 00:35:21,400
Speaker 1: dream it was like, I know, but you know, in

630
00:35:21,520 --> 00:35:24,880
Speaker 1: my dream it was like I loved her so much

631
00:35:25,600 --> 00:35:28,120
Speaker 1: and I've never had a friend like this ever in

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Speaker 1: my dream. And the next night you were and I

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Speaker 1: were having dinner, and I told you that I had

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Speaker 1: this dream and then how much I really did love you?

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Speaker 1: And did you think maybe that you and I could

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Speaker 1: you know? Yeah? And before I finished the sentence, you

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Speaker 1: were nice enough to say, oh, Glassie, you are so straight.

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Speaker 1: Stop it it's true, you're so straight. I mean, you

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Speaker 1: don't think, no, I don't think. I oh, I wish

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Speaker 1: for many years you would be gay. You know, truth,

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Speaker 1: such nerve, you got to know it took such nerve

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Speaker 1: to say that, but you just laughed. Honey. You just laughed.

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Speaker 1: I told you a joke. I said, Hey, if you've

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Speaker 1: only taken the George Washington Bridge into New York City,

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Speaker 1: there's no reason to try the Holland Tunnel. You started laughing,

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Speaker 1: and then it was over. But listen, I've told everyone

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Speaker 1: that story, and I don't let it, you know, I

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Speaker 1: don't let it get rusty and mind. I proudly tell it.

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Speaker 1: I proudly tell it. I misunderstood, but I still love

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Speaker 1: you very much. I love you too, honey, And you're

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Speaker 1: the best in the book. Apparently there have been complaints.

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Speaker 1: It's very good title, and it's a wonderful book, and

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Speaker 1: I love I love any little morsel of information I

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Speaker 1: can get about you, and who you are in real

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Speaker 1: life is as glorious as you are as an actress.

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Speaker 1: And I'm proud to know you. Glessie. Thank you. Do

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Speaker 1: you want to know how the title happened? Yeah, tell

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Speaker 1: me tell me how the title happened Because during Cagnet

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Speaker 1: and they see I was playing a drunk, first famous

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Speaker 1: drunk on television, right, and we found out that Sharon's

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Speaker 1: a drunk. So I was being hused anyway, So I

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00:37:06,480 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: checked into rehab and it was a big scandal. The

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Speaker 1: press really went after it, and I was locked up

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Speaker 1: in there. Wood is the twenty eight D program. I

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Speaker 1: was there for seven weeks, just terrible press. And when

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Speaker 1: I got out, a friend of mine said, huh, you

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00:37:22,040 --> 00:37:27,120
Speaker 1: were in Hazelton. It's the Harvard of the rehabs, you know. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: I said, yeah, I was. She said why were you

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Speaker 1: in a time? And I just came out of my mouth.

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Speaker 1: I said, apparently there were complaints. Varney laughed and I

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00:37:41,200 --> 00:37:44,960
Speaker 1: started laughing. And it's always been anything about me. It's

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Speaker 1: apparently there were complaints. Sometimes I miss it. Well, Honey,

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Speaker 1: I have no complaints about you. I have zero. In

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Speaker 1: the thirty years of loving you, I have zero complaints.

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Speaker 1: I love you too. There you go. Thank you for

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Speaker 1: having me on your show. Thank you for doing this.

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Speaker 1: This is the very first one. You broke my little virgin,

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Speaker 1: your chry. You finally did it, Glad say, there you go,

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Speaker 1: And now it's time for some questions that you guys

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Speaker 1: have sent in. Hi, Rosie, this is Tinkermazelle, and first

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Speaker 1: of all, I want to tell you happy birthday. Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I think it's cool that you're giving us a birthday

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Speaker 1: present on your birthday that it's very sweet. Congrats on

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Speaker 1: your podcast. Thank you very much. I wanted to ask

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Speaker 1: you if you were friends with Kirsty Alli, and if

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Speaker 1: you were, could you tell us a little bit about

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Speaker 1: friendship with her. Thanks, thank you so much. Thanks for

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Speaker 1: your questions and comments and keep them coming. I wasn't

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Speaker 1: really friendly with Kirsty Alli. I got to know her

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Speaker 1: a little bit when my show was first on. She

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Speaker 1: talked to me a little bit about scientology and was

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Speaker 1: very interested in that. Now I have other friends like

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Speaker 1: Tom Cruise, who has never brought it up to me once.

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Speaker 1: You know, there are other people that I know who

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Speaker 1: are in scientology, and Kirsty was one who brought it

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Speaker 1: up to me. So we never really connected, I think

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Speaker 1: on that level, which might have been you know, disappointing

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Speaker 1: to her. I can't really speak for her, but you know,

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Speaker 1: she was such a talented actress, and she was so

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Speaker 1: funny on Cheers and such a character and great on

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Speaker 1: game shows and the talk show guest. You know, she

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Speaker 1: was really wonderful. I didn't get to know her very well,

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Speaker 1: but I did name my son Parker after her husband,

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Speaker 1: her first husband, Parker Stephens. So there's my Kirsty Alley connection,

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Speaker 1: but love to her family and friends. That was a

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Speaker 1: woman gone too soon and gosh so quickly. I remain

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Speaker 1: your host, Rosie o'donnald. Thank you all for tuning in

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Speaker 1: to this premiere episode. I really do appreciate it. Every Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: we're going to drop a new one next week. Rory Kennedy.

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Speaker 1: Please watch her documentary Volcano Rescue at Vacari and it's

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Speaker 1: on Netflix and it's totally worth watching. It'll uplift your

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Speaker 1: spirits and remind you of how resilient humans are. It's

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Speaker 1: beautiful and Rory Kennedy will be our guest next week.

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Speaker 1: Here on onward. Thank you everybody. I really appreciate it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm gonna have myself a great birthday. Hey on

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Speaker 1: TikTok at Rosie on Twitter, at Rosie at Instagram at

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Speaker 1: Rosie and right here on iHeart Onward with Rosie o'donnald