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Speaker 2: Hello everyone, Welcome back to the NFL Week eight Fantasy

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Speaker 2: Flex on the Action Network Podcast. I'm Matthew Friedman, the

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Speaker 2: editor in chief of Fantasy Labs with me and Sean

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Speaker 2: Corner and Chris Raybon. Shawn is our director of predictive

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Speaker 2: rankers for the past half decade, and Chris is a

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Speaker 2: senior editor and analyst at The Action Network and a

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Radio. Gentlemen, Week seven, were you the hammer or

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Speaker 2: the nail?

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Speaker 5: I would say the hammer. And season long leagues, I

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Speaker 5: have Letavius Murray or Chase Edmunds pretty much on every team,

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Speaker 5: and unfortunately for Elliot, I had to face them this week.

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Speaker 5: I had Chase Edmunds and Aaron Rodgers go off, so

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Speaker 5: I apologize tell it for that, but he's taking our

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Speaker 5: dynasty league anyway, so I'm sure he's fine with it.

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Speaker 2: On the dynasty topic. In my Best Ball Dynasty League,

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Speaker 2: I have Patrick Mahomes and Matt Ryan as my top

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Speaker 2: two quarterbacks, so you can since from that how my

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Speaker 2: week probably went. Raymond. How about you?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, this was not a great week for me.

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Speaker 6: For one, I'm just pissed at the Chargers, dead on

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Speaker 6: them and thought they were going to come through. But

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Speaker 6: every quarterback it seemed like that I had any type

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Speaker 6: of investment in, whether it was season long, dfs didn't

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Speaker 6: score fantasy points for a variety of reasons. Some got hurt,

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Speaker 6: some were in games and just didn't do like it

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Speaker 6: was just a crazy week quarterback wise, which threw me

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Speaker 2: So Sean mentioned at the top of the show Elliott.

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Speaker 2: He's talking about Elliott christ who is our guest. He's

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Speaker 2: the chief product officer at the Quant Edge and a

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Speaker 2: longtime veteran of the fantasy industry. He is joining us

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Speaker 2: this week to break down the players at the top

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Speaker 2: of our rankings, which by the way, are available at

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Speaker 2: Action network dot com. Slash fantasy. We were discussing the

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Speaker 2: guys we are high and low on. We're speculating on

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Speaker 2: some props, and at the end of the show, we

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Speaker 2: were answering your Twitter fantasy questions. Elliott, thanks for joining

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Speaker 2: the show.

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Speaker 7: Of course, really pumped to be here. Three legends of

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Speaker 7: the industry. Thanks for having me. Sean beat me up

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Speaker 7: a little bit. But when you're starting Joe Flacco and

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Speaker 7: Damian Williams and your Dynasty League, you're not exactly expecting

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Speaker 7: big things to be fair.

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Speaker 5: He inherited that team too, that wasn't his fault.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, So other than the bruises that Shawn inflicted upon you,

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Speaker 2: what are you taking away from Week seven?

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Speaker 7: You know, snaps and weighted opportunity, continuing to be king

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Speaker 7: for the running back position, right, I mean these these

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Speaker 7: It's one of the guys that I would have had

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Speaker 7: one hundred percent exposure to, one hundred percent. Latavius Murray.

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Speaker 7: Got these backup running backs that come in and they're

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Speaker 7: that I want to continue to target weekend out, regardless

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Speaker 7: of matchup. Right, Murray was competing with snaps, with Dwayne

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Speaker 7: Even if the game script didn't go as well, he

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Speaker 7: That's a Saint team that's targeted at the running back

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Speaker 7: thirty percent of the time for three straight years. Slightly

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Speaker 7: inflated with the heaven Kamara, but still that's that's what

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Speaker 2: Get Let's start by talking about the quarterbacks. At the

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Speaker 2: top of our rankings. We have Deshaun Watson who is

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Speaker 2: how do you feel about those guys? Is there anyone

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean I think Wilson and Watson are probably

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Speaker 7: guy that I never play in DFS, especially at an

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I would especially be able to get open against

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Speaker 7: I did a goal line second blocking tight end that

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Speaker 2: Outside of Watson and Wilson, who else are you relatively

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Speaker 4: DraftKings has done such a good job.

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Speaker 7: DFS for quarterbacks is very different this year than it

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Speaker 7: can stream and punt. But this week Ryan Tannehill takes

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Speaker 7: on a Bucks defense that's I mean, their secondary is

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Speaker 5: For me, it's Matt Stafford this week. He's my top

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Speaker 5: I have about six or seven quarterbacks essentially within a

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Speaker 5: I feel like he's a type of QB. Whenever I

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Speaker 2: Sean, to your point about having him in the top five,

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Speaker 2: actually all three of us have him in the top

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Speaker 2: definitely up there for us. Raybond, who are you looking

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Speaker 6: I think Gardner Minshew going up against the New York Jets.

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Speaker 6: Coming off a short week, is in a good spot.

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Speaker 6: He's sayed some tough defenses this year, New Orleans, Carolina.

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Speaker 6: He still put up twenty seven on Carolina, but came

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Speaker 6: Leonard Fournette. The Jets came into that Patriots game as

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Speaker 6: Minshew has been a guy who he's played well. He

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Speaker 3: Still has Michael Thomas.

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Speaker 2: All right, Kyler Murray is someone I'm still relatively interested in.

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Speaker 2: I believe I have him ranked number six and going

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Speaker 2: those matchups there. Elliott, give me a player you are

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Speaker 2: relatively low on this week.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I mean, I think everyone you guys just talked

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Speaker 4: But I talked about at the top.

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Speaker 7: But Tom Brady is just priced at a point where

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Speaker 7: you definitely play him in season long. But at sixty

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Speaker 7: doesn't really fit any format of game type that I

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Speaker 7: would look for this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sean, what about you.

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Speaker 5: I'm a little bit lower on Aaron Rodgers this week

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Speaker 5: right now. I'm QB six. I think is ECR is

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Speaker 5: as a good BIOLO candidate. I think it was after

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Speaker 2: And then one guy I'm relatively low on Matt Ryan.

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Speaker 7: Are there any Matt Moore truthers like on Planet Earth

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Speaker 2: That's fantastic. All right, Let's talk about some of these

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Speaker 2: A bad game. Yeah. Who else are you relatively high

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Speaker 7: a straight line athlete at this point.

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Speaker 4: And it's it's really hard.

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Speaker 7: I mean, he's living on touchdowns and if he doesn't

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Speaker 7: get those touchdowns, he's going to completely kill your lineups.

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Speaker 7: And I mean specifically a DFS, I can spend seventy

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Speaker 7: four hundred on him in draft kings this week.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, in DFS I definitely wouldn't won him, especially in

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Speaker 2: cash Sean, where are you on Todd Gurley.

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Speaker 5: Similar you know, season long leagues. Obviously you're firing up

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Speaker 5: as a you know, low end RB one, but you know,

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Speaker 5: seventy four hundred on DraftKings is way too high. I

446
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Speaker 5: think his ceiling is a bit lower because you know,

447
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Speaker 5: they should blow out the Bengals, so you would think

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Speaker 5: that they would, you know, find this game as a

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Speaker 5: way to sort of limit his touches. So I'll be

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Speaker 5: looking to see if Malcolm Brown is active, I'll probably

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Speaker 5: lower Gurley a little bit more. I just think they

452
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Speaker 5: could use the second half to put him on ice

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Speaker 5: and the other guy I'm low on is Derrick Henry.

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Speaker 5: I have him just outside the RB one tier. The

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Speaker 5: Buccaneers have been absolutely brutal against running backs, and only

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Speaker 5: running back that's cleared forty rushing yards on him is

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Speaker 5: Alvin Kamara. And they faced some great running backs. I

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Speaker 5: mean they faced Todd Early, Takoon Barkley forty nine ers,

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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey twice. So you know, I think the Titans

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Speaker 5: will be wise to air it out this week. And

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Speaker 5: you know, if Henry, you're always, you know, having a

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Speaker 5: bank on a goal line touchdown, but this week, I

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Speaker 5: don't know if you could bank on many yards. So

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Speaker 5: he's going to have to score. So I don't want

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Speaker 5: to be put in that situation. I'll be fading Henry

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Speaker 5: in DFS this week.

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Speaker 2: All right, One guy, I'm relatively low on is Nick

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Speaker 2: Chubb playing on the road against a very tough Patriots

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Speaker 2: defense at Raymond. I believe you are also relatively low

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Speaker 2: on Chubb. What are your thoughts there?

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and this is more of a DFS thing.

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Speaker 6: I think you know, rankings wise, he's still a top

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Speaker 6: twelve running back. You're starting him in season long, but

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Speaker 6: you mentioned it. The Patriots have just been lights out.

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Speaker 6: And I think it hurts even more that they've been

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Speaker 6: so good against the past because Chub has been kind

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Speaker 6: of benefiting from getting a lot of that offense's touchdowns.

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Speaker 6: Baker Mayfield has not been playing well, and so if

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Speaker 6: the Brown can't drive the field, get into, you know,

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Speaker 6: get close to scoring position, now you're relying on Chubb

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Speaker 6: breaking off like an eighty yard run, which is capable

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Speaker 6: of but it's unlikely. And I thought it was concerning

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Speaker 6: as well that Le'Veon Bell. Yeah, he got seventy yards

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Speaker 6: on the ground against the Pats, but Caughte one of.

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Speaker 3: Four targets for six yards.

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Speaker 6: The Patriots just have a way about them of kind

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Speaker 6: of slowing down these focal points of offenses, and they

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Speaker 6: have good enough coverage to where you know, they they

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Speaker 6: can cover Beckham and they can cover Landry and they

490
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Speaker 6: can still focus on the run. So not feeling really

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Speaker 6: good about Chub and DF. I would rather go down

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Speaker 6: to Edmonds at six point two or just go up

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Speaker 6: to the guy that Elliott mentioned, Wavean Bell at six

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Speaker 6: point nine.

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Speaker 3: I think that's a great price for Bell.

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Speaker 2: All right, Sean, what do you have for us for

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Speaker 2: a running back? Prop?

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Speaker 5: So with kary On Johnson out this week, I wanted

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Speaker 5: to do Ty Johnson's total scrimmageyards they're rushing plus receiving

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Speaker 5: yards at home against the Giants. Right now, I have

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Speaker 5: the number set at sixty four and a half.

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Speaker 6: I'm going over just based on pure touches. I think

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Speaker 6: he can get to sixteen or so because he had

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Speaker 6: double digits last week. And again I think McKissick mixed

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Speaker 6: in a little more than he would most weeks just

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Speaker 6: because of the negative game script.

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Speaker 3: So I think they'll see both of the backs.

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Speaker 6: But Detroit, you know Darryl Bevell and going as a

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Speaker 6: home favorite against the Giants team that may not even

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Speaker 6: be able to score that much. I think that you know,

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Speaker 6: Bev will still lean on the run game enough to

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Speaker 6: get Ty Johnson over your sixty four and a half.

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Speaker 7: Guard, John, I feel like you're pretty good at set

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Speaker 7: of these lines, man, like these.

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Speaker 4: Are I agree over.

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Speaker 7: I think if the and Bevell, the Lions want to

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Speaker 7: run the football, and it's really hard for me to

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Speaker 7: ever take an under against the Giants in general because

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Speaker 7: that defense is so bad across the board at everything.

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Speaker 2: I'll take the under here knock because I mean, I

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Speaker 2: think this is a really tight line, but I have

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Speaker 2: a little more to the under here, So I'll go

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Speaker 2: under in part just because we really don't know what

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Speaker 2: we have in Ty Johnson mckiss. It could get more

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Speaker 2: of the workload, and I just don't really want to

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Speaker 2: trust the Lions offense all that much, like they could

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Speaker 2: lean a little bit more to the pass without without

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Speaker 2: carry on Johns there. So yes, that's what I'm thinking.

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Speaker 5: If they happen to bring back CJ. Anderson or something,

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Speaker 5: we'll avoid this problem.

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Speaker 2: I don't know about that. I don't like that as

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Speaker 2: the person who has the under. I don't know if

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. That wasn't stated beforehand. So yeah,

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Speaker 2: I vedo.

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Speaker 2: Here to talk about animals and maybe a little bit

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Speaker 2: of week eight is Peter Jenning's AKAACS or M eighty eight,

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Speaker 2: a two time DFS World champion and co founder of

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Speaker 2: Fantasy Labs. Pete besides dogs and I am assuming rams,

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Speaker 2: what is your favorite type of animal?

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Speaker 4: Favorite animal growing up is a cheetah.

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Speaker 8: Still is not a fan of Tyreek Hill off the field,

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Speaker 8: but a big fan of Cheetah on the field.

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Speaker 2: Let's get into week eight the main slate. How are

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Speaker 2: you going about approaching cash games and GPPs.

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Speaker 4: Well, we just got big news that Carrie on Johnson

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Speaker 4: is done.

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Speaker 8: So that makes ty Johnson a huge play on the

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Speaker 8: slate and I think that's going to be one of

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Speaker 8: your locks. So after that, trying to figure out how

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Speaker 8: you want to build around him is a big factor.

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Speaker 8: You have a couple of really big games in terms

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Speaker 8: of totals and those will be chalkier options. And there's

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Speaker 8: some really nice contrarian pivots as well. So interesting week

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Speaker 8: and I'm excited.

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Speaker 2: All right. At quarterback? Who are you looking at?

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Speaker 4: So?

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Speaker 8: I think de Shaun Watson's the safest great quarterback to

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Speaker 8: pay up for against the Raiders. We saw what Aaron

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Speaker 8: Rodgers just did last week. Now at home, Watson, We've

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Speaker 8: seen huge games already this season. He has rushing upside

571
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Speaker 8: as well as a rushing floor. Even without Will Fuller,

572
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Speaker 8: I think he can have a really big game. I'm

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Speaker 8: happy Kenny Stills his back and he's my favorite option.

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Speaker 8: Next will be Russell Wilson, who is a little bit

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Speaker 8: more expensive going against this putrid Atlanta defense. He's on

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Speaker 8: the road, but he's an awesome play as well. I

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Speaker 8: have Watson a little higher and he's one hundred cheaper,

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Speaker 8: so maybe Wilson's a better tournament play. And I think

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Speaker 8: Matthew Stafford's interesting as well as Ryan Tannehill. If you

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Speaker 8: want to spend down.

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Speaker 2: All right at running back, who are you looking at?

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Speaker 8: I mean, I'm gonna be looking at Ti Johnson. I

583
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Speaker 8: think he's a really, really, really good play. We'll see

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Speaker 8: what ends up happening they pick anyone else up for

585
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Speaker 8: recording this year on Tuesday. But even at forty nine hundred,

586
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Speaker 8: going against this Giants team, he's way too cheap. He's

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Speaker 8: gonna get a lot of opportunity and He's one of

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Speaker 8: my favorite plays on the slate. Latavious Murray I think

589
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Speaker 8: on DraftKings also still has a really strong valued only

590
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Speaker 8: fifty eight hundred.

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Speaker 4: We saw what he was able to do last week.

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Speaker 8: Obviously we want to see what happens with the album Kamara,

593
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Speaker 8: but Kamar is out, he's the best player on the

594
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Speaker 8: board or right there with Ti Johnson, and if car

595
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Speaker 8: is in, I still think he's a solid play, don't

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Speaker 8: mind David Montgomery. Leonard Furnet's really nice with all his usage.

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Speaker 8: And then it gets tricky because we have some other

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Speaker 8: guys who I'd like to play in tougher matchups. So

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Speaker 8: like Nick Chubb's been awesome, but he's going against his

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Speaker 8: Patriots defense, and Josh Jacobs, who I like as well,

601
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Speaker 8: is going against Houston. Has actually been a little bit

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Speaker 8: better than people think against the run. So it's an

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Speaker 8: interesting position to say the.

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Speaker 2: Least at wide receiver, who do you like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, wide receiver.

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Speaker 8: I think Kenny Stills is going to be really popular

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Speaker 8: with Will Fuller out, I like him. I think he'll

608
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Speaker 8: be popular as a stack with Deshaun Watson, you know,

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Speaker 8: all the way at the top, DeAndre Hopkins, I think

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Speaker 8: is another really strong play at eighty one hundred. Outside

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Speaker 8: of that, then you start getting to some sneakyer GPP

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Speaker 8: type plays. Mike Williams is popping for me a lot.

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Speaker 8: He's a big by low in terms of air yards

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Speaker 8: as well, big upsides, touchdown regression hopefully coming for him.

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Speaker 2: Dede.

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Speaker 8: Westbrook just had a really nice game. I think he's interesting.

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Speaker 8: Courtland Sutton with Emmanuel Sanders trade going into Indianapolis another

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Speaker 8: guy that I want exposure to. And Keenan Allen's still

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Speaker 8: too cheap at sixty four hundred. Disappointing second half obviously

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Speaker 8: last week, but I like Keenan Allen quite a bit

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Speaker 8: here in Week.

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Speaker 2: Eight and tight end. Who do you like?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, I was really.

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Speaker 8: Happy to see Goddard finally go nuts have a ton

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Speaker 8: of hem in Best Ball and Season Long and twenty

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Speaker 8: eight hundred.

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Speaker 4: I think he's interesting.

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Speaker 8: It is a really tough matchup going into Buffalo, but

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Speaker 8: he's priced way down. You're gonna be watching Evan Ingram.

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Speaker 8: He was kind of hurt coming into the game, played

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Speaker 8: really poorly last week. Just want to make sure he's okay.

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Speaker 8: But assuming Evan Ingram's fine, he's a great play. Austin

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Speaker 8: Hooper with the traded Sinew should see even more targets

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Speaker 8: now at home versus Seattle Hunter Henry's a really good play,

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Speaker 8: and hopefully George Kittle finally starts going off at some

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Speaker 8: point off the board tournament play, I'd say as t J.

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Speaker 8: Hockinson against the Giants, definitely buying his talent and a

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Speaker 8: good matchup here. And Darren Waller will be the chock

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Speaker 8: and we'll see how I handle him, all.

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Speaker 2: Right, And are there any stacks that are a little

641
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Speaker 2: contraryan that you are considering for tournaments?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, so I just mentioned Hockinson.

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Speaker 8: I think Matthew Stafford paired with any of the guys

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Speaker 8: outside of Ty Johnson will be a little contrarian and

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Speaker 8: potentially the leverage off of him. I do think stacking

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Speaker 8: Stafford and Ty Johnson also makes sense, given that Ty

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Speaker 8: Johnson's a really elusive pass catching back. But if you

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Speaker 8: want to gain leveragers the field, I think going something

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Speaker 8: like Stafford Howkinson or Stafford Galladay or two of those

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Speaker 8: options makes a ton of sense. And running back to

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Speaker 8: some of these giants I think is really intriguing play

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Speaker 8: as well. Games indoors and I think it's a really

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Speaker 8: good spot for the Lions passing game.

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Speaker 2: All right. That was Peter Jennings with his DFS thoughts

655
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Speaker 2: for Week eight. Okay, let's talk about the players at

656
00:28:15,840 --> 00:28:18,720
Speaker 2: the top of our wide receiver rankings. We have DeAndre

657
00:28:18,760 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 2: Hopkins going against the Raiders, Michael Thomas going against the Cardinals,

658
00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:27,960
Speaker 2: and Chris Godwin sneaking at number three going against the Titans. Elliott,

659
00:28:28,000 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 2: where are you with the wide receiver rankings? Anyone else

660
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:33,120
Speaker 2: you thinks should kind of be included in that top

661
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:34,040
Speaker 2: tier man?

662
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:36,199
Speaker 7: Chris Godwin has been something else this year just in

663
00:28:36,240 --> 00:28:38,640
Speaker 7: terms of pure volume. That Titans matchup doesn't scare me.

664
00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,880
Speaker 7: Patrick Peterson back with Michael Thomas, We'll see if he

665
00:28:41,920 --> 00:28:44,960
Speaker 7: potentially shadows him. I don't necessarily know that he will,

666
00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 7: but if he does, that certainly can impact Michael Thomas

667
00:28:47,720 --> 00:28:50,040
Speaker 7: a lot, and the Raiders are horrendous. Noel will follow

668
00:28:50,080 --> 00:28:52,080
Speaker 7: that probably it leads to an increased target share with

669
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Speaker 7: DeAndre Hopkins. So you know, I think in general those

670
00:28:54,600 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 7: are probably the right guys. Cooper Cup could be in

671
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,240
Speaker 7: a really strong position this week, where you know, prior

672
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:03,440
Speaker 7: to these last two weeks, he's just been going into

673
00:29:03,480 --> 00:29:05,360
Speaker 7: last week, he was averaging eleven and a half targets

674
00:29:05,360 --> 00:29:08,000
Speaker 7: per game, has a ton of touchdown equity in that offense,

675
00:29:08,040 --> 00:29:10,520
Speaker 7: and the Bengals are out of corners, so if they

676
00:29:10,520 --> 00:29:11,920
Speaker 7: don't do it on the ground, there's a really good

677
00:29:11,960 --> 00:29:13,600
Speaker 7: chance that it's Cooper Cup. I think he's in the

678
00:29:13,640 --> 00:29:16,160
Speaker 7: top tier as well. But those three guys are the

679
00:29:16,200 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 7: top three guys for me this week.

680
00:29:17,920 --> 00:29:20,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, So aside from those guys in Cup, who else

681
00:29:20,320 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 2: are you relatively high.

682
00:29:21,440 --> 00:29:23,280
Speaker 4: On Kenny Gallade?

683
00:29:23,400 --> 00:29:25,440
Speaker 7: You know, Sean talked about it in the opener about

684
00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 7: Matthew Stafford, and I think Kenny Galladay is a great

685
00:29:27,480 --> 00:29:29,720
Speaker 7: guy to go back to this week after he had

686
00:29:30,000 --> 00:29:33,360
Speaker 7: probably his worst game in the history of his NFL career, right.

687
00:29:33,400 --> 00:29:35,240
Speaker 7: I mean, the last two years he's seen like twenty

688
00:29:35,280 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 7: seven percent of the targets are more in every game,

689
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,200
Speaker 7: and then he saw four percent this past week, where

690
00:29:39,200 --> 00:29:41,000
Speaker 7: Stafford through forty two times and I think he saw

691
00:29:41,040 --> 00:29:43,640
Speaker 7: two targets. I think he's a really good bounce back candidate.

692
00:29:43,760 --> 00:29:46,960
Speaker 7: The Falcons are continued to get decimated up top. I

693
00:29:46,960 --> 00:29:49,320
Speaker 7: think metcalf is one of those guys that has a

694
00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,080
Speaker 7: really high aid out and has an opportunity to take

695
00:29:51,120 --> 00:29:53,640
Speaker 7: advantage of that. And Alan Robinson's just a guy that,

696
00:29:53,880 --> 00:29:56,800
Speaker 7: especially in DFS, continues to go ignored, continues to go

697
00:29:56,880 --> 00:29:59,160
Speaker 7: under priced. He was going into last week he was

698
00:29:59,160 --> 00:30:01,720
Speaker 7: one of two players in the NFL with forty percent

699
00:30:01,960 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 7: are yard market share and twenty five percent target share.

700
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Speaker 7: He looks phenomenal and he gets he gets the ball

701
00:30:06,680 --> 00:30:08,880
Speaker 7: all the time, and so I think Alan Robinson's a

702
00:30:08,880 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 7: guy really liked this week as well.

703
00:30:10,120 --> 00:30:11,600
Speaker 2: All right, Sean, what about you?

704
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Speaker 5: So I'm loving aj Brown right now at forty one

705
00:30:15,080 --> 00:30:18,040
Speaker 5: hundred on draft kings. You know, they're at home, Like

706
00:30:18,080 --> 00:30:20,160
Speaker 5: I mentioned, against the Buccaneers, I think the way to

707
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:23,400
Speaker 5: beat them will be, you know, to throw it. And

708
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:27,600
Speaker 5: you know the Buccaneers they've given up ten receivers have

709
00:30:27,680 --> 00:30:30,200
Speaker 5: put up seventy plus receiving yards on them in the

710
00:30:30,240 --> 00:30:33,040
Speaker 5: past five games. And we know how the Titans love

711
00:30:33,080 --> 00:30:35,040
Speaker 5: to spread the ball around, so that that means there

712
00:30:35,040 --> 00:30:36,920
Speaker 5: should be enough volume that you know, two of these

713
00:30:36,960 --> 00:30:39,800
Speaker 5: pass catchers hit value. So you know, a week after

714
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Speaker 5: Brown broke out again where he put up career high

715
00:30:42,720 --> 00:30:47,719
Speaker 5: in targets and receiving yards, they believe and Tannehill's first start.

716
00:30:48,160 --> 00:30:50,840
Speaker 5: That's a great sign. We all know Brown is, you know,

717
00:30:50,880 --> 00:30:53,520
Speaker 5: one of the most talented receivers in this draft class,

718
00:30:53,520 --> 00:30:55,760
Speaker 5: so you know the needles pointing up in him. I

719
00:30:55,760 --> 00:30:57,320
Speaker 5: want to get him while he's still cheap like this

720
00:30:57,400 --> 00:30:59,320
Speaker 5: in a great matchup. So I love him this week.

721
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Speaker 5: And the other guy, you know, I think Tyler Boyd

722
00:31:02,480 --> 00:31:05,480
Speaker 5: is also I think sneaky at fifty one hundred. He's

723
00:31:05,520 --> 00:31:07,560
Speaker 5: disappointed the past couple of games, but you know he's

724
00:31:07,600 --> 00:31:11,160
Speaker 5: seen twenty one targets and you know with the Bengals,

725
00:31:11,440 --> 00:31:13,120
Speaker 5: you know they're heading into the buy this week. This

726
00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 5: could be a game where Andy Dalton realizes, you know,

727
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:17,880
Speaker 5: his career could be on the line this week. So

728
00:31:18,960 --> 00:31:21,360
Speaker 5: I see him leaning on a veteran like Boyd a

729
00:31:21,360 --> 00:31:23,600
Speaker 5: bit more this week, and you know, we could get

730
00:31:23,600 --> 00:31:26,800
Speaker 5: some garbage time. I'm not sure if Jalen Ramsey might

731
00:31:26,800 --> 00:31:30,520
Speaker 5: be guarding on tape, but that could funnel more targets

732
00:31:30,520 --> 00:31:32,600
Speaker 5: Boyd's way. So I just think he's a good bounce

733
00:31:32,640 --> 00:31:34,520
Speaker 5: back candidate, especially at fifty one hundred.

734
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Speaker 4: This week.

735
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Speaker 2: Sean going with the Dalton fighting for his career narrative.

736
00:31:38,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 2: Love it absolutely, Ray Bond, who are you relatively high

737
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,840
Speaker 2: on John Brown.

738
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Speaker 6: He was a guy at one point seemed like he

739
00:31:46,760 --> 00:31:49,160
Speaker 6: was fighting for his career going through some things. Really

740
00:31:49,200 --> 00:31:52,360
Speaker 6: has rebounded strong with the Bills. Twenty four percent target

741
00:31:52,440 --> 00:31:54,680
Speaker 6: chare this year leads the team. He's five point nine

742
00:31:54,760 --> 00:31:57,480
Speaker 6: K going against Philly, who's the worst defense in the

743
00:31:57,520 --> 00:31:59,720
Speaker 6: league against opposing wide receivers.

744
00:32:00,080 --> 00:32:00,720
Speaker 3: So love Brown.

745
00:32:01,000 --> 00:32:02,560
Speaker 6: Calvin Ridley is a guy I think you look at

746
00:32:02,600 --> 00:32:06,560
Speaker 6: because with s New gone traded to the Patriots. You know,

747
00:32:06,720 --> 00:32:10,240
Speaker 6: there's usually in a given game about ninety percent of

748
00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:12,640
Speaker 6: the targets go to the top six, so that median

749
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:15,640
Speaker 6: is about fifteen percent, and the number three and number

750
00:32:15,640 --> 00:32:18,240
Speaker 6: four options are usually fighting for that, you know, to

751
00:32:18,280 --> 00:32:21,080
Speaker 6: get above that fifteen percent, And Ridley caught the short

752
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:22,400
Speaker 6: end of the stickle out of the time with.

753
00:32:22,520 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 3: SNeW and Hooper being there.

754
00:32:24,120 --> 00:32:26,000
Speaker 6: But now I think you're going to see a lot

755
00:32:26,040 --> 00:32:28,960
Speaker 6: more upside games and fewer downside games from Ridley. So

756
00:32:29,800 --> 00:32:32,560
Speaker 6: like him at five point nine Corey Davis at four

757
00:32:32,560 --> 00:32:34,920
Speaker 6: point four K, you know, for the same reason Sean,

758
00:32:35,000 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 6: like Brown, I think this is a run funnel defense.

759
00:32:37,760 --> 00:32:41,120
Speaker 6: And Tannehill has had a lot better connection with Davis

760
00:32:41,360 --> 00:32:45,080
Speaker 6: and the receivers, and Delaney Walker has banged up Jamison Crowder,

761
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:48,040
Speaker 6: I think is sneaky. At four point eight. Jacksonville gave

762
00:32:48,120 --> 00:32:50,640
Speaker 6: up a career day to Alex Erickson, who primarily plays

763
00:32:50,640 --> 00:32:52,560
Speaker 6: out of the slot, and then Tyler Boyd, a guy

764
00:32:52,600 --> 00:32:55,719
Speaker 6: who goes inside and out, also wrapped up fourteen targets

765
00:32:56,080 --> 00:32:59,200
Speaker 6: on them. So Crowder's got a twenty four percent targets here,

766
00:32:59,320 --> 00:33:01,720
Speaker 6: leaves to just twenty percent of air yards. And Emmanuel

767
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,680
Speaker 6: Sanders another sneaky play going against the Colts. He can

768
00:33:04,760 --> 00:33:07,480
Speaker 6: kind of find that the creases in that zone defense.

769
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,280
Speaker 6: He's a guy who twenty seven percent of the air

770
00:33:10,400 --> 00:33:13,239
Speaker 6: yards as well, and I think the Broncos are going

771
00:33:13,320 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 6: to have to throw a little bit because the Colts

772
00:33:15,880 --> 00:33:18,920
Speaker 6: are going to probably be able to score decently well

773
00:33:18,960 --> 00:33:21,120
Speaker 6: on that defense. I think after seeing what Matt Moore

774
00:33:21,120 --> 00:33:22,240
Speaker 6: did to them.

775
00:33:22,320 --> 00:33:25,040
Speaker 2: Rayvin, I am with you there on John Brown pacing

776
00:33:25,080 --> 00:33:28,400
Speaker 2: for a career best year, pacing for over twelve hundred

777
00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 2: receiving yards, which I don't think people would kind of

778
00:33:31,320 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 2: realize that he's having that good of a season. And

779
00:33:34,120 --> 00:33:35,920
Speaker 2: I think the big thing is that he's just avoiding

780
00:33:35,960 --> 00:33:38,880
Speaker 2: those valley games where you know, he has like fifteen

781
00:33:38,920 --> 00:33:42,080
Speaker 2: to twenty yards. You know, his worst game is fifty

782
00:33:42,120 --> 00:33:44,280
Speaker 2: receiving yards. Most of his games have been up around

783
00:33:44,280 --> 00:33:47,600
Speaker 2: seventy receiving yards, so a pretty decent floor there, and

784
00:33:47,600 --> 00:33:49,440
Speaker 2: I think it's kind of amazing that he's doing it

785
00:33:50,440 --> 00:33:53,760
Speaker 2: with Josh Allen, who is a fairly inaccurate passer. But

786
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 2: Brown has a seventy three point three percent catch rate,

787
00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:58,560
Speaker 2: and I think part of that is just maybe because

788
00:33:58,560 --> 00:34:00,000
Speaker 2: of the way that they're using him, Like if they're

789
00:34:00,120 --> 00:34:02,000
Speaker 2: just throwing it deep, and might be easier for a

790
00:34:02,040 --> 00:34:04,400
Speaker 2: guy like that just to go catch the ball. And

791
00:34:04,480 --> 00:34:06,760
Speaker 2: in some ways, maybe it's easier for a quarterback with

792
00:34:06,840 --> 00:34:10,320
Speaker 2: accuracy problems to be more accurate deep if he's throwing

793
00:34:10,360 --> 00:34:12,880
Speaker 2: it to his speedster. Yeah, Raymont go.

794
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:17,239
Speaker 6: And maybe if you trade a guy who has like

795
00:34:17,280 --> 00:34:20,160
Speaker 6: a forty two percent career catch rate to the Oapen Raiders,

796
00:34:20,880 --> 00:34:22,920
Speaker 6: you're a little more accurate. Because it's funny because like

797
00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,520
Speaker 6: Foster also had like a sixty three percent catch rate

798
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:28,160
Speaker 6: on and he was getting all deep targets last year.

799
00:34:28,239 --> 00:34:31,239
Speaker 6: He doesn't even play, so I think Zay Jones was

800
00:34:31,280 --> 00:34:34,640
Speaker 6: bringing down Allen's completion percentage a little more than we think.

801
00:34:35,000 --> 00:34:38,800
Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, the combination of those two guys wasn't something

802
00:34:38,880 --> 00:34:42,719
Speaker 2: to behold. So I'm with you there on John Brown. Also,

803
00:34:42,760 --> 00:34:46,600
Speaker 2: I'm interested in DJ Shark. I just don't have a

804
00:34:46,600 --> 00:34:49,799
Speaker 2: lot of respect for this Jet secondary. And he's such

805
00:34:49,800 --> 00:34:52,279
Speaker 2: an explosive player that really all it takes his one

806
00:34:52,320 --> 00:34:55,000
Speaker 2: target and he's you know, still leading the team or

807
00:34:55,040 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 2: near the team lead and target. So interested in him. Elliott,

808
00:34:59,600 --> 00:35:01,080
Speaker 2: who are you relatively low on?

809
00:35:01,760 --> 00:35:01,920
Speaker 4: Yeah?

810
00:35:01,960 --> 00:35:03,520
Speaker 7: I would say that your sentence where you said I

811
00:35:03,560 --> 00:35:05,480
Speaker 7: don't have a lot of respect for the Jets secondary,

812
00:35:05,600 --> 00:35:07,880
Speaker 7: was you added one too many words. The word's secondary

813
00:35:07,960 --> 00:35:10,720
Speaker 7: is certainly not needed in that sentence. But yeah, Tyler

814
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:12,480
Speaker 7: Lockett is a guy where I think he's a great

815
00:35:12,520 --> 00:35:15,239
Speaker 7: season long play. But DFS at seventy one hundred, I

816
00:35:15,239 --> 00:35:18,000
Speaker 7: mean he's gone over twenty DK points you know once

817
00:35:18,040 --> 00:35:20,000
Speaker 7: in his last twenty one games. I just don't know

818
00:35:20,040 --> 00:35:21,680
Speaker 7: if he has that ceiling. Despite the fact that the

819
00:35:21,680 --> 00:35:24,200
Speaker 7: matchup's great, that the volume concerns me at a seventy

820
00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:26,440
Speaker 7: one hundred dollars price tag, and Golden Tate's just not

821
00:35:26,480 --> 00:35:28,920
Speaker 7: a guy can play for his role in this offense.

822
00:35:29,239 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 7: I don't want to spend fifty eight hundred and him

823
00:35:30,719 --> 00:35:32,920
Speaker 7: in DFS. I just I know he had that big

824
00:35:32,920 --> 00:35:35,080
Speaker 7: play against the Patriots that got a lot of people

825
00:35:35,120 --> 00:35:36,759
Speaker 7: on him last week in a good matchup, but he

826
00:35:36,880 --> 00:35:39,200
Speaker 7: just has an underneath game that I'm not necessarily looking.

827
00:35:39,239 --> 00:35:41,160
Speaker 7: He's a kind of guy that I don't really ever play.

828
00:35:41,440 --> 00:35:44,440
Speaker 2: Sawn, you're also relatively low on Tate one of your

829
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,360
Speaker 2: thoughts on him, and then who else are you low on?

830
00:35:47,000 --> 00:35:49,760
Speaker 5: I'm fading Golden Tate this week, assuming that Seroing Shepherd

831
00:35:49,760 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 5: comes back. Now that Shepherds do either back this week

832
00:35:52,960 --> 00:35:55,400
Speaker 5: or next week, and you have Evan Ingram back to

833
00:35:55,640 --> 00:35:58,319
Speaker 5: one hundred percent and Barkley back, there's just way too

834
00:35:58,320 --> 00:36:01,640
Speaker 5: many targets are way too few targets to go around

835
00:36:01,680 --> 00:36:03,960
Speaker 5: for all these players. So even though I love the

836
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:08,560
Speaker 5: revenge game, the narrative with Tate back in Detroit, I'm

837
00:36:08,560 --> 00:36:10,960
Speaker 5: fading him this week at that price tag of fifty

838
00:36:10,960 --> 00:36:14,040
Speaker 5: eight hundred. The other guy I'm fading is Robert Woods.

839
00:36:14,600 --> 00:36:17,880
Speaker 5: He's been pricey for this matchup I mentioned earlier. You

840
00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,839
Speaker 5: know it's safe to assume that the Rams are gonna

841
00:36:20,840 --> 00:36:23,440
Speaker 5: blow up the Bengals, So you know, you wouldn't expect

842
00:36:23,440 --> 00:36:25,279
Speaker 5: golf to air it out as much. And you know,

843
00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:29,479
Speaker 5: with Gerald Everett and even Tyler Higby to a certain

844
00:36:29,480 --> 00:36:32,200
Speaker 5: extent becoming way more involved in this offense. I mean,

845
00:36:32,360 --> 00:36:34,840
Speaker 5: Jell Everett sees five to ten targets a week. This

846
00:36:34,920 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 5: is a little bit different than we're used to with

847
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,880
Speaker 5: the rams. So I think we could see one to

848
00:36:39,960 --> 00:36:42,960
Speaker 5: two pass catchers have a ceiling game, but you know,

849
00:36:43,000 --> 00:36:45,040
Speaker 5: two or three of these guys could disappoint, and I

850
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:48,320
Speaker 5: think a couple could have a dud. And with Robert Woods,

851
00:36:48,640 --> 00:36:50,439
Speaker 5: you know, he hasn't caught a touch on this year,

852
00:36:50,880 --> 00:36:52,920
Speaker 5: and I saw, you know, there's there's a pretty negative

853
00:36:52,920 --> 00:36:57,360
Speaker 5: correlation with Gerald Everett getting red zone targets over Woods.

854
00:36:57,360 --> 00:37:00,399
Speaker 5: So I think, you know, Everett's you know, expand role

855
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,400
Speaker 5: could be sort of the sneaky reason why we're not

856
00:37:03,440 --> 00:37:06,319
Speaker 5: seeing much any touchdowns out of Robert Woods this year.

857
00:37:06,400 --> 00:37:10,120
Speaker 5: So I think I'm lowering Woods. You know, the ceiling

858
00:37:10,200 --> 00:37:12,560
Speaker 5: we typically see from him is no longer there. So

859
00:37:12,800 --> 00:37:14,600
Speaker 5: I'm faving him at sixty three hundred this week.

860
00:37:15,360 --> 00:37:17,000
Speaker 2: Raymond, who are you relatively low on?

861
00:37:18,080 --> 00:37:20,279
Speaker 6: I've got to be Odell Beckham Junior this week it's

862
00:37:20,400 --> 00:37:23,719
Speaker 6: you know, he's just not in a spot that lives

863
00:37:23,800 --> 00:37:26,280
Speaker 6: up to his name. Going against the New England Patriots,

864
00:37:26,320 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 6: especially with Baker Mayfield. You know, Tamai chagrin really because

865
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:33,759
Speaker 6: I was extremely high on Mayfield, but playing absolutely dismally

866
00:37:34,320 --> 00:37:34,920
Speaker 6: this season.

867
00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:37,080
Speaker 3: The Patriots have They've given.

868
00:37:36,960 --> 00:37:38,759
Speaker 6: Up one one hundred yard game and it was on

869
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:42,840
Speaker 6: that that sixty five yard pass to Golden take that

870
00:37:42,840 --> 00:37:45,759
Speaker 6: that Elliott mentioned. And you know, Jarvis Landry banged up.

871
00:37:45,800 --> 00:37:48,160
Speaker 6: I think if anything, you know, if he's out, it's

872
00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:50,480
Speaker 6: even tougher. And if he's in, I think the Patriots,

873
00:37:50,520 --> 00:37:52,920
Speaker 6: you know, they'll be more willing to give up underneath

874
00:37:52,920 --> 00:37:55,120
Speaker 6: throws to him, though they'll prioritize Beckham and Chubbs.

875
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:57,960
Speaker 3: So you know, have Beckham.

876
00:37:57,239 --> 00:37:59,719
Speaker 6: Down, you know, outside the top ten this week and

877
00:37:59,760 --> 00:38:01,640
Speaker 6: he's are we going to stay there?

878
00:38:02,360 --> 00:38:03,200
Speaker 3: You know throughout the week.

879
00:38:03,880 --> 00:38:07,120
Speaker 2: I'm fading anyone who's going against Stefan Gilmour, who is

880
00:38:07,280 --> 00:38:09,680
Speaker 2: just playing at such a high level right now, Like

881
00:38:09,719 --> 00:38:12,040
Speaker 2: I don't know if we've seen cornerback play like this

882
00:38:12,120 --> 00:38:16,359
Speaker 2: since like the revs. Island days. So yeah, anyone going

883
00:38:16,400 --> 00:38:19,040
Speaker 2: against him, I'm looking to stay away from. Also looking

884
00:38:19,080 --> 00:38:21,239
Speaker 2: to stay away from Stefon Diggs, who I have to

885
00:38:21,280 --> 00:38:23,320
Speaker 2: admit has had his best two games of the season

886
00:38:23,920 --> 00:38:28,280
Speaker 2: in his most recent games, nineteen targets across those two games,

887
00:38:29,040 --> 00:38:33,279
Speaker 2: you know, the high volume peak for him. But I'm

888
00:38:33,360 --> 00:38:37,160
Speaker 2: just still relatively wary of an offense that I think

889
00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:40,040
Speaker 2: is very run focused even with Adam DeLand gone, and

890
00:38:40,080 --> 00:38:42,440
Speaker 2: we should expect, you know, more targets to shift over

891
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,480
Speaker 2: to Diggs. It's a good matchup, but I just I

892
00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:49,360
Speaker 2: can't stomach the idea of having him in the top seven,

893
00:38:49,440 --> 00:38:51,560
Speaker 2: top eight. I think of him more as a low

894
00:38:51,640 --> 00:38:54,319
Speaker 2: end wide receiver one as opposed to like a mid

895
00:38:54,360 --> 00:38:57,640
Speaker 2: tier wide receiver one. So you know, I'm still, I guess,

896
00:38:57,680 --> 00:39:01,080
Speaker 2: overall optimistic on him. I just want to put a

897
00:39:01,120 --> 00:39:05,920
Speaker 2: little a pinch of pessimism within my optimistic strain. Sean,

898
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,279
Speaker 2: give us the prop for Wider's years.

899
00:39:09,120 --> 00:39:11,600
Speaker 5: So I'm going with Kenny Stills this week at home

900
00:39:11,640 --> 00:39:14,400
Speaker 5: against the Raiders. You know it's will fuller out this week.

901
00:39:15,280 --> 00:39:17,680
Speaker 5: I feel like I was being conservative with Stills projections

902
00:39:17,680 --> 00:39:20,200
Speaker 5: and he's still popping in our models because he's only

903
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:22,399
Speaker 5: forty seven hundred this week. So needed your guys help

904
00:39:22,440 --> 00:39:24,719
Speaker 5: to sort of sharpen it up. But right now I

905
00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:28,040
Speaker 5: have case stills that over under sixty one and a

906
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:29,320
Speaker 5: half receiving yards.

907
00:39:29,880 --> 00:39:31,040
Speaker 3: I actually have him under.

908
00:39:31,239 --> 00:39:33,560
Speaker 5: Oh man, I bumped it up for you specifically.

909
00:39:34,120 --> 00:39:35,279
Speaker 3: You know, I just think he is.

910
00:39:35,440 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 6: He's a volatile guy, right, so, yeah, he can. He's

911
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:39,879
Speaker 6: a hard guy to project just week in and week

912
00:39:39,920 --> 00:39:41,840
Speaker 6: out because he doesn't need a lot of targets to

913
00:39:41,840 --> 00:39:44,080
Speaker 6: get a out of yards and whatnot. But I still

914
00:39:44,120 --> 00:39:46,080
Speaker 6: think probably the median for him is going to be

915
00:39:46,120 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 6: around three point five catches, and that would put him

916
00:39:50,120 --> 00:39:51,120
Speaker 6: a little under that line.

917
00:39:51,160 --> 00:39:53,960
Speaker 2: For me, Sean, before you move the line to do

918
00:39:54,120 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 2: Raybond sharp action, I'm also going to pound you on

919
00:39:56,680 --> 00:39:57,080
Speaker 2: the under.

920
00:39:57,680 --> 00:39:59,560
Speaker 7: I wouldn't be the third person to take the under

921
00:39:59,600 --> 00:40:01,200
Speaker 7: there that the vole. I mean, this is a bet

922
00:40:01,239 --> 00:40:03,680
Speaker 7: that I would never really make anytime I get these

923
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 7: high volatility guys.

924
00:40:05,280 --> 00:40:08,040
Speaker 4: I don't necessarily like to attack them. But he certainly

925
00:40:08,040 --> 00:40:09,640
Speaker 4: can go over on this on two catches.

926
00:40:09,680 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 7: But in general, like Chris said, you probably project them

927
00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:14,360
Speaker 7: for three and a half four catches, give him fifteen

928
00:40:14,480 --> 00:40:16,800
Speaker 7: seventeen yards a catch, you're coming under that number.

929
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:19,239
Speaker 5: This would be a fun prop to points bet you know,

930
00:40:19,280 --> 00:40:22,399
Speaker 5: because it's either going to be thirty or one hundred, right, So.

931
00:40:22,560 --> 00:40:26,319
Speaker 2: Right, yeah, all right, let's talk about the tight ends.

932
00:40:26,320 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 2: The guys at the top of our rankings. George Kittle

933
00:40:28,760 --> 00:40:32,680
Speaker 2: versus the Panthers, Austin Hooper against the Seahawks, Evan Ingram

934
00:40:33,000 --> 00:40:37,320
Speaker 2: against the Lions. A couple notable names missing. No Travis

935
00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:41,120
Speaker 2: Kelcey and they're no zach Ertz. So the complexion of

936
00:40:41,160 --> 00:40:43,879
Speaker 2: the big three has definitely changed from where we were

937
00:40:43,920 --> 00:40:47,080
Speaker 2: at the beginning of the season. Elliott, what are your

938
00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:51,200
Speaker 2: thoughts on the tight ends? Anyone you would include at

939
00:40:51,200 --> 00:40:52,160
Speaker 2: the top of the board.

940
00:40:52,480 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 4: Yeah.

941
00:40:52,960 --> 00:40:54,840
Speaker 7: My big concern with Hooper right now is it's Tuesday

942
00:40:54,840 --> 00:40:56,759
Speaker 7: and we don't know the status and Matt Ryan, so

943
00:40:56,960 --> 00:40:59,719
Speaker 7: it's really hard for me to give analysis on him.

944
00:41:00,120 --> 00:41:02,920
Speaker 7: I think Darren Waller obviously, Listen. I don't want to

945
00:41:02,960 --> 00:41:04,560
Speaker 7: be a fish and just talk about the last big

946
00:41:04,600 --> 00:41:06,880
Speaker 7: game he had. But as long as you continue to

947
00:41:06,960 --> 00:41:09,120
Speaker 7: lead the league in market share of airy yards and

948
00:41:09,160 --> 00:41:11,400
Speaker 7: be up there in that twenty five percent target share range,

949
00:41:11,560 --> 00:41:13,200
Speaker 7: you're going to be in a really good position. And

950
00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:15,799
Speaker 7: you know, I anticipate the Raiders having to play from

951
00:41:15,840 --> 00:41:17,200
Speaker 7: behind in that game, and those are the kind of

952
00:41:17,200 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 7: gas We've seen Darren Waller have big games, whether it

953
00:41:19,200 --> 00:41:21,319
Speaker 7: was last week or the game against the Vikings, the

954
00:41:21,360 --> 00:41:23,320
Speaker 7: games where he's been real popular and gotten in trouble,

955
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:24,920
Speaker 7: like the Colts where everyone thought they were going to

956
00:41:24,960 --> 00:41:27,440
Speaker 7: play from behind and he had what four for forty

957
00:41:27,480 --> 00:41:29,040
Speaker 7: eight in the first quarter and then saw one more

958
00:41:29,040 --> 00:41:30,480
Speaker 7: target the rest of the game because they wanted to

959
00:41:30,480 --> 00:41:32,960
Speaker 7: go run heavy. So I think he's probably in that conversation.

960
00:41:33,040 --> 00:41:35,680
Speaker 7: And you know, Hunter Henry is a guy that as

961
00:41:35,719 --> 00:41:38,280
Speaker 7: long as he continues this role of eight plus targets,

962
00:41:38,280 --> 00:41:39,839
Speaker 7: I think he's got an a dot of twelve point

963
00:41:39,880 --> 00:41:42,480
Speaker 7: three this year, which is third in the NFL, like

964
00:41:42,520 --> 00:41:44,240
Speaker 7: not among tight ends, but in the NFL.

965
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:46,200
Speaker 4: I think Hunter Henry is a really strong play this

966
00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:46,719
Speaker 4: week as well.

967
00:41:47,160 --> 00:41:49,920
Speaker 2: Yeah, I'm with you there on Hunter Henry. Subpar matchup

968
00:41:49,960 --> 00:41:53,160
Speaker 2: against the Bears, but great volume, great production, small sample,

969
00:41:53,200 --> 00:41:55,279
Speaker 2: and that he's played only three games, so you still

970
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:57,200
Speaker 2: kind of want to see how it shakes out. But

971
00:41:57,360 --> 00:41:59,560
Speaker 2: what we've seen out of him so far kind of

972
00:41:59,600 --> 00:42:02,400
Speaker 2: confirm what we expected out of him entering the season

973
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:05,400
Speaker 2: and what he has flashed previously in his career. So

974
00:42:05,960 --> 00:42:09,359
Speaker 2: I'm relatively high on him this week. Sean, who are

975
00:42:09,360 --> 00:42:09,840
Speaker 2: you high on?

976
00:42:10,200 --> 00:42:12,000
Speaker 5: First off, I just want to say, in regards to

977
00:42:12,080 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 5: Austin Hooper, I don't really care if Matt Ryan or

978
00:42:15,120 --> 00:42:18,239
Speaker 5: Matt Shober starting. He's still my top three. I mean

979
00:42:18,239 --> 00:42:21,160
Speaker 5: we saw Matt Shob. Hooper had one catch for I

980
00:42:21,160 --> 00:42:23,960
Speaker 5: think like twelve yards until Matt Shob came in with

981
00:42:23,960 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 5: the last five minutes and then he racked up like

982
00:42:26,120 --> 00:42:28,200
Speaker 5: three catches for thirty yards in a touchdown shop So

983
00:42:28,600 --> 00:42:31,160
Speaker 5: Shop's a guy that Mike Pepper Hooper even more, who knows,

984
00:42:31,280 --> 00:42:35,040
Speaker 5: especially with the new gun. But yeah, I love Dallas

985
00:42:35,080 --> 00:42:39,480
Speaker 5: Goddard this week. He's twenty eight hundred on DK, but

986
00:42:39,640 --> 00:42:42,600
Speaker 5: especially for you know, in season long leagues. You know,

987
00:42:42,800 --> 00:42:45,359
Speaker 5: he's got to be a top twelve tight end now

988
00:42:46,040 --> 00:42:48,600
Speaker 5: for me going forward, and he's always, you know, has

989
00:42:48,640 --> 00:42:52,000
Speaker 5: that potential where zach Ertzever miss his time. He's potentially

990
00:42:52,040 --> 00:42:54,840
Speaker 5: a top five tight end. So I mean he should

991
00:42:54,880 --> 00:42:59,239
Speaker 5: be owning every league right now, you know. And he's

992
00:42:59,400 --> 00:43:01,600
Speaker 5: at Buffalo, so it's not a great matchup, but he's

993
00:43:01,640 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 5: really closed the gap between he and Arth, So I

994
00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:06,560
Speaker 5: love him even with this Danlon value right now is

995
00:43:06,680 --> 00:43:07,640
Speaker 5: a top twelve tight end.

996
00:43:08,239 --> 00:43:12,480
Speaker 2: Sean, your analysis on Austin Hooper was reminiscent of the Giants'

997
00:43:12,480 --> 00:43:15,360
Speaker 2: coaching staff being like, we saw Daniel Jones do a

998
00:43:15,400 --> 00:43:19,319
Speaker 2: couple of drives in practice at the Senior Bowl and

999
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:21,560
Speaker 2: we fell in love with him. That's well, that's the

1000
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,799
Speaker 2: equivalent of what it was.

1001
00:43:23,200 --> 00:43:25,120
Speaker 5: You know, I have him on like most of my team,

1002
00:43:25,200 --> 00:43:28,080
Speaker 5: so you know, I'm just trying to mentally picture him

1003
00:43:28,080 --> 00:43:30,040
Speaker 5: doing good without Matt Ryan there. But yeah, we'll see,

1004
00:43:30,120 --> 00:43:31,400
Speaker 5: we'll see when the time comes.

1005
00:43:31,400 --> 00:43:34,320
Speaker 7: I can't get the mat Job Hall of Fame performance

1006
00:43:34,320 --> 00:43:35,600
Speaker 7: out of my head. In the Hall of Fame game,

1007
00:43:35,640 --> 00:43:38,200
Speaker 7: the opening preseason one when everyone is playing showdown, Slight's

1008
00:43:38,239 --> 00:43:40,359
Speaker 7: like a complete degenerate having a great time, and Matt

1009
00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:43,320
Speaker 7: Shop continued to pepper the Denver Broncos with targets.

1010
00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:47,840
Speaker 2: Preseason Hall of Famer Ravon, who are you relatively high on?

1011
00:43:48,480 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 3: Tight end? Is another one of those positions. It gets

1012
00:43:50,200 --> 00:43:51,400
Speaker 3: so ugly fast.

1013
00:43:51,560 --> 00:43:54,279
Speaker 6: Buffalo is a tough matchup for tight ends, so zach

1014
00:43:54,360 --> 00:43:56,160
Speaker 6: ERTs not getting knocked down.

1015
00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:57,040
Speaker 3: Chittle's pricey.

1016
00:43:57,280 --> 00:44:00,359
Speaker 6: I like Eric Ebron at thirty four hundreds, a guy

1017
00:44:00,360 --> 00:44:02,400
Speaker 6: that you know hasn't been getting much love because we

1018
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:05,640
Speaker 6: we thought he would regress in touchdowns and he's still

1019
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 6: been solid. He has three this year, so he has

1020
00:44:08,040 --> 00:44:10,520
Speaker 6: a chance to maybe get to seven or eight. But

1021
00:44:10,760 --> 00:44:12,839
Speaker 6: he's a he's number He's still top ten in air

1022
00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,840
Speaker 6: yard market share, and you know, I think the Broncos

1023
00:44:15,880 --> 00:44:18,279
Speaker 6: are a team. You know they'll have Chris Harris go

1024
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,359
Speaker 6: up against t Y Hilton. I think you know they're

1025
00:44:21,360 --> 00:44:23,200
Speaker 6: a team that you're going to try to exploit them

1026
00:44:23,200 --> 00:44:25,680
Speaker 6: when they play their base defense a little bit because

1027
00:44:25,680 --> 00:44:27,440
Speaker 6: that's what they're going to try to do. So I

1028
00:44:27,520 --> 00:44:29,880
Speaker 6: like Ebroan in this matchup, especially for three point four K,

1029
00:44:29,920 --> 00:44:31,840
Speaker 6: and have him as my number eleven tight end this

1030
00:44:31,840 --> 00:44:34,240
Speaker 6: week if you need a streamer.

1031
00:44:34,400 --> 00:44:37,040
Speaker 2: Ray Boni, you mentioned how ugly the tight end position is,

1032
00:44:37,080 --> 00:44:39,400
Speaker 2: and I feel like it's almost too easy to come

1033
00:44:39,480 --> 00:44:42,560
Speaker 2: up with tight ends to dislike, just because of how

1034
00:44:42,560 --> 00:44:45,960
Speaker 2: the position kind of shakes out. But Elliott, who is

1035
00:44:46,000 --> 00:44:47,800
Speaker 2: someone you dislike this week?

1036
00:44:48,360 --> 00:44:50,439
Speaker 7: Jared Cookes coming off an ankle injury. Right we don't

1037
00:44:50,440 --> 00:44:52,000
Speaker 7: know if he's going to be good to go this week.

1038
00:44:52,080 --> 00:44:54,080
Speaker 7: I'm not going to stream Josh Hill just because he's

1039
00:44:54,080 --> 00:44:57,760
Speaker 7: playing the flow chart Cardinals. I think that the Cardinals

1040
00:44:57,800 --> 00:44:59,440
Speaker 7: are absolutely terrible against that ends, and I want to

1041
00:44:59,440 --> 00:45:01,800
Speaker 7: target them. But if we're going to get in dfs

1042
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:04,000
Speaker 7: like a Chalky Saints tight end who might see three

1043
00:45:04,040 --> 00:45:06,479
Speaker 7: to four targets, I'm not chasing that one.

1044
00:45:07,640 --> 00:45:11,720
Speaker 2: Okay, So staying away from the floatart this week. Rtt

1045
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:13,719
Speaker 2: Ellison might have something to say about.

1046
00:45:13,440 --> 00:45:17,319
Speaker 4: That, But Evan Ingram would agree with me right out right.

1047
00:45:18,000 --> 00:45:20,800
Speaker 2: Okay, Sean, who are you staying away from?

1048
00:45:21,360 --> 00:45:24,760
Speaker 5: I mentioned earlier, but Gerald Everett I'm staying away from.

1049
00:45:24,880 --> 00:45:27,000
Speaker 5: You know, in season long leagues, I do consider him,

1050
00:45:27,080 --> 00:45:29,680
Speaker 5: you know, a top ten to twelve tight end going forward.

1051
00:45:30,560 --> 00:45:34,080
Speaker 5: Like I mentioned, he's sort of established himself as sort

1052
00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:35,879
Speaker 5: of the fourth target, and this offense we can bank

1053
00:45:35,920 --> 00:45:38,719
Speaker 5: on five to ten targets most weeks. But you know,

1054
00:45:38,800 --> 00:45:41,160
Speaker 5: this week at home against the Bengals, you can't expect

1055
00:45:41,160 --> 00:45:43,719
Speaker 5: that kind of volume. So you know, one a couple

1056
00:45:43,760 --> 00:45:46,040
Speaker 5: of these players, these pass catchers are going to have

1057
00:45:46,040 --> 00:45:48,880
Speaker 5: some floor games. And at forty three hundred, you know,

1058
00:45:50,040 --> 00:45:54,640
Speaker 5: I have five players between forty nine hundred and fifty

1059
00:45:54,640 --> 00:45:58,160
Speaker 5: three hundred, I'm getting five more projected points. So it's

1060
00:45:58,239 --> 00:46:00,960
Speaker 5: just it's worth spinning up just a few hundred dollars

1061
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:03,960
Speaker 5: to reach into that second tier of tight ends. So

1062
00:46:05,000 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 5: at that price point, I'll be completely off Gerald effert

1063
00:46:08,280 --> 00:46:10,600
Speaker 5: this week in GPPs.

1064
00:46:10,400 --> 00:46:11,920
Speaker 2: Raymond, who are you relatively low on?

1065
00:46:12,560 --> 00:46:14,360
Speaker 3: I already mentioned it, but zach Ertz.

1066
00:46:14,400 --> 00:46:17,640
Speaker 6: You know, Buffalo number two against the tight end last season,

1067
00:46:18,320 --> 00:46:20,560
Speaker 6: same thing this year. Just a tough matchup with those

1068
00:46:20,600 --> 00:46:22,000
Speaker 6: safeties Poyer and Hide.

1069
00:46:22,320 --> 00:46:23,319
Speaker 3: They'll focus on Earth.

1070
00:46:23,360 --> 00:46:25,120
Speaker 6: So I do think God it probably has a better

1071
00:46:25,160 --> 00:46:28,360
Speaker 6: shot because you know he'll Earth will be the priority,

1072
00:46:28,400 --> 00:46:32,000
Speaker 6: and He's art is kind of sandwiched in on draftings,

1073
00:46:32,239 --> 00:46:34,920
Speaker 6: you know, between Evan Ingram and Hunter Henry and I

1074
00:46:34,920 --> 00:46:36,879
Speaker 6: don't think it's the week to be contrarian and try

1075
00:46:36,880 --> 00:46:38,440
Speaker 6: to go with Ertz. I think you want one of

1076
00:46:38,440 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 6: those two guys or Austin Hooper, you know, over over

1077
00:46:42,280 --> 00:46:43,560
Speaker 6: Earth this week in the tough matchup.

1078
00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:45,640
Speaker 2: All right, Well, I will be the lone voice in

1079
00:46:45,640 --> 00:46:49,239
Speaker 2: the wilderness that is fading Austin Hooper. I don't think

1080
00:46:49,280 --> 00:46:52,239
Speaker 2: the matchup is too prohibitive going against the Seahawk two

1081
00:46:52,239 --> 00:46:54,239
Speaker 2: again aren't what they used to be, But just hard

1082
00:46:54,280 --> 00:46:56,560
Speaker 2: to trust him in an offense that's diminished by the

1083
00:46:56,640 --> 00:47:00,080
Speaker 2: Matt Ryan injury, and I'm going to be fading the

1084
00:47:00,080 --> 00:47:03,840
Speaker 2: the shop to Hooper one edrive narrative that is lingering

1085
00:47:03,880 --> 00:47:07,120
Speaker 2: from last week. Sean, give us the tight end prop

1086
00:47:07,360 --> 00:47:08,160
Speaker 2: before week eight.

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Speaker 5: First off, I think Hooper's line will be like ten

1088
00:47:11,080 --> 00:47:13,360
Speaker 5: catches for fifty yards and a two point of version.

1089
00:47:13,360 --> 00:47:17,440
Speaker 5: There you go, old call. So I think this prop

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00:47:17,520 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 5: is critical this week. Travis Kelcey receiving arts with Matt Moore.

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Speaker 5: I mean, figuring out how low we ranked Kelsey this

1092
00:47:25,280 --> 00:47:28,279
Speaker 5: week is really tough for me. So right now I

1093
00:47:28,320 --> 00:47:32,360
Speaker 5: have his projection at fifty seven and a half receiving arts.

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00:47:32,680 --> 00:47:33,439
Speaker 4: I'll take the over.

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00:47:33,640 --> 00:47:35,360
Speaker 7: If I'm going to go Matt Moore over, I have

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00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,000
Speaker 7: to go Travis Kelcey over. And I think it really

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00:47:38,000 --> 00:47:40,040
Speaker 7: helps him that Tyree Hills back. That gives you know,

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Speaker 7: that guy that's going to take the top off that

1099
00:47:41,480 --> 00:47:44,040
Speaker 7: defense allow the middle to be open a little bit more.

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Speaker 7: I would love if Travis kelce would stop doing this

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00:47:46,000 --> 00:47:48,200
Speaker 7: thing where he just runs into the nearest linebacker and

1102
00:47:48,200 --> 00:47:50,479
Speaker 7: then falls over trying to draw flag every other player

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00:47:50,480 --> 00:47:53,160
Speaker 7: that he's falling in love with, and would go back

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Speaker 7: to being Travis Kelcey.

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00:47:54,120 --> 00:47:55,360
Speaker 4: But I'll take the over here.

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00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,480
Speaker 3: Yeah, same, I'm going a little bit over. I think

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Speaker 3: he's a player.

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Speaker 6: Where Freeman mentioned it, Andy read great schemer, a lot

1109
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Speaker 6: of time to prepare. I think you can get Kelsey

1110
00:48:03,520 --> 00:48:05,640
Speaker 6: yards after the catch, and you mentioned it too. I

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00:48:05,680 --> 00:48:07,720
Speaker 6: mean there Ga've got to see on the film, especially

1112
00:48:07,760 --> 00:48:10,200
Speaker 6: with the extended break. You know, Travis Kelcey kind of

1113
00:48:10,320 --> 00:48:11,719
Speaker 6: you know, getting in his own way a little bit

1114
00:48:11,719 --> 00:48:13,920
Speaker 6: at times, and you know, this is how the NFL works.

1115
00:48:13,920 --> 00:48:17,160
Speaker 6: Things kind of even out and guys make adjustments. So again,

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00:48:17,360 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 6: I just think that the Chiefs are going to have

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00:48:20,200 --> 00:48:24,080
Speaker 6: to get yards, and I don't against the Packers, and

1118
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Speaker 6: I don't think that Andy Reid is committed to doing

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Speaker 6: that on the ground.

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Speaker 2: Okay, I'm either a donkey or I'm really threading the

1121
00:48:30,920 --> 00:48:34,160
Speaker 2: needle here because although I'm going with the Matt Moore under,

1122
00:48:34,239 --> 00:48:36,600
Speaker 2: I am going to go with the Travis Kelcey over

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Speaker 2: in part because I do think that More is going

1124
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:42,280
Speaker 2: to look to rely a little bit more on Kelsey

1125
00:48:42,320 --> 00:48:44,920
Speaker 2: and I think Kelsey is due for a little bit

1126
00:48:44,960 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: of regression here. So yes, going with the Kelsey over.

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Speaker 2: Let's close the show out by running through the Twitter questions.

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Speaker 2: We have actually got a lot of them this week,

1129
00:48:56,760 --> 00:49:00,840
Speaker 2: pretty pivotal week, lots of injury news and notes, and

1130
00:49:00,880 --> 00:49:02,960
Speaker 2: so I think that kind of impacts the way that

1131
00:49:02,960 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 2: people are looking at waivers and things like that. So, Elliott,

1132
00:49:06,880 --> 00:49:09,080
Speaker 2: I am starting with you. This is from Camille Sultan.

1133
00:49:09,280 --> 00:49:11,400
Speaker 2: Should I trade for Sam Darnold because of the second

1134
00:49:11,440 --> 00:49:12,920
Speaker 2: half schedule he will be facing.

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00:49:14,000 --> 00:49:16,000
Speaker 7: I mean, I know it's a pretty good second half schedule.

1136
00:49:16,040 --> 00:49:18,600
Speaker 7: You're still looking at Adam Gay's offense. I think ultimately

1137
00:49:18,600 --> 00:49:20,480
Speaker 7: it really depends on league type, how desperate you are

1138
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,400
Speaker 7: a quarterback. He's going to have some streamable weeks, but

1139
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:24,280
Speaker 7: I'm certainly not trading for him to be the future

1140
00:49:24,320 --> 00:49:26,359
Speaker 7: starter of my roster. So I guess you can trade

1141
00:49:26,360 --> 00:49:28,239
Speaker 7: a very bottom of the roster kind of guy for him.

1142
00:49:28,360 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 2: Yeah, I guess if it's a QB heavy type of league,

1143
00:49:31,000 --> 00:49:33,640
Speaker 2: then maybe that's something you consider. But yeah, it seems

1144
00:49:33,680 --> 00:49:35,799
Speaker 2: like in most leagues you don't have the need to

1145
00:49:35,800 --> 00:49:39,080
Speaker 2: trade for a quarterback ever, so that would be kind

1146
00:49:39,080 --> 00:49:41,600
Speaker 2: of my perspective on it. Sean, this is from Michelle,

1147
00:49:41,640 --> 00:49:43,720
Speaker 2: and at this point, I don't know whether to play

1148
00:49:43,760 --> 00:49:47,480
Speaker 2: both Boyd and Mixon. However, people keep trying to trade

1149
00:49:47,480 --> 00:49:48,040
Speaker 2: for Mixon.

1150
00:49:48,480 --> 00:49:52,560
Speaker 5: Why, well, who cares? Why you should definitely get rid

1151
00:49:52,600 --> 00:49:55,000
Speaker 5: of him. I think he still carries you know, the

1152
00:49:55,080 --> 00:49:57,200
Speaker 5: name value, but you know, right now I think I

1153
00:49:57,280 --> 00:50:01,280
Speaker 5: have him RB twenty eight to thirty for this week.

1154
00:50:01,520 --> 00:50:03,880
Speaker 5: You know, the offensive line is brutal. He was standing

1155
00:50:03,920 --> 00:50:06,440
Speaker 5: on the sidelines. They had a goaling opportunity towards the

1156
00:50:06,520 --> 00:50:08,160
Speaker 5: end of the game. You just stay in the sidelines.

1157
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,600
Speaker 5: You know, you don't want a running back in that

1158
00:50:10,640 --> 00:50:13,640
Speaker 5: position on a tanking team. So you know, I'm thinking,

1159
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:15,399
Speaker 5: you know, by the end of the season, like week

1160
00:50:15,520 --> 00:50:17,879
Speaker 5: fifteen sixteen, when you're in the fans playoffs, they might

1161
00:50:17,880 --> 00:50:20,520
Speaker 5: be giving triviaon Williams an extent look or something. So

1162
00:50:20,880 --> 00:50:24,720
Speaker 5: I would sell low while you can. In terms of Boyd,

1163
00:50:24,760 --> 00:50:26,839
Speaker 5: I think you just hang on to Boyd. Like I said,

1164
00:50:26,880 --> 00:50:29,800
Speaker 5: he's seen twenty one targets past two games, just unfortunately

1165
00:50:29,840 --> 00:50:32,480
Speaker 5: hasn't put up, you know, great numbers. But you know,

1166
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:33,960
Speaker 5: a guy like that is better to have on a

1167
00:50:33,960 --> 00:50:36,799
Speaker 5: tanking team than running back like Mixon. So I'd sell

1168
00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:40,239
Speaker 5: low Sean shooting from the hip. Is Mixon the least

1169
00:50:40,320 --> 00:50:43,719
Speaker 5: valuable player in terms of fantasy for this season. Oh

1170
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,440
Speaker 5: you mean just like a healthy player that was drafted.

1171
00:50:46,520 --> 00:50:48,440
Speaker 2: Yeah, just however it is that you would define the

1172
00:50:48,480 --> 00:50:52,560
Speaker 2: twenty and nineteen Fantasy LVP. I think Mixon has a

1173
00:50:52,600 --> 00:50:53,719
Speaker 2: really strong pase for it.

1174
00:50:53,840 --> 00:50:57,440
Speaker 5: Yeah, Damian Williams is also there too, But yeah, Mixon's

1175
00:50:57,719 --> 00:51:02,000
Speaker 5: great call because he was what mid sex he went yeah,

1176
00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:03,320
Speaker 5: late first to early second.

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00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:06,400
Speaker 2: Yeah, unlike Damian Williams who was injured. You were starting

1178
00:51:06,440 --> 00:51:08,480
Speaker 2: mixing for a number of dear weeks and you were

1179
00:51:08,480 --> 00:51:11,120
Speaker 2: just getting baked by having him in there. It's amazing

1180
00:51:11,160 --> 00:51:13,359
Speaker 2: that a guy who is averaging twelve carries and three

1181
00:51:13,400 --> 00:51:16,800
Speaker 2: targets per game has been as inefficient as he has. Chris,

1182
00:51:16,800 --> 00:51:19,279
Speaker 2: I'm kicking this to you, Nathan Coleman, ask who are

1183
00:51:19,320 --> 00:51:23,520
Speaker 2: your favorite so highs and buy lows for a redraft.

1184
00:51:22,920 --> 00:51:25,759
Speaker 6: By lows, I mean, I think you know we tried

1185
00:51:25,840 --> 00:51:27,400
Speaker 6: tried to do it with mixing, and that was the

1186
00:51:27,400 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 6: game for him to go off.

1187
00:51:28,480 --> 00:51:31,640
Speaker 3: So if you can get Corey Davis or or a J.

1188
00:51:31,760 --> 00:51:33,560
Speaker 6: Brown, you know, the Titans receivers, they look like they're

1189
00:51:33,560 --> 00:51:36,520
Speaker 6: in a better spot with Ryan Tannehill and as far

1190
00:51:36,560 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 6: as so Highs, anytime I see a receiver just go

1191
00:51:39,040 --> 00:51:42,040
Speaker 6: completely nuts. I like to to try to sell high

1192
00:51:42,080 --> 00:51:43,520
Speaker 6: to just see if I can get somebody that will

1193
00:51:43,520 --> 00:51:46,320
Speaker 6: be a little more consistent. So a guy like Marvin Jones,

1194
00:51:46,400 --> 00:51:48,480
Speaker 6: you know, his value will never be higher now. I

1195
00:51:48,520 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 6: think he is still going to be you know, wide

1196
00:51:51,080 --> 00:51:54,120
Speaker 6: receiver two or high end wide receiver three most weeks.

1197
00:51:54,160 --> 00:51:57,759
Speaker 6: But he's a guy who overall, I think you know,

1198
00:51:57,920 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 6: is not going to be as consistent and not give

1199
00:51:59,560 --> 00:52:00,800
Speaker 6: you another four touchdown games.

1200
00:52:00,960 --> 00:52:02,960
Speaker 2: This might feel kind of dangerous, and people don't talk

1201
00:52:03,000 --> 00:52:06,240
Speaker 2: about trading defenses, But if you can somehow convince someone

1202
00:52:06,239 --> 00:52:09,440
Speaker 2: that the Patriots defense is going to continue to score

1203
00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:11,920
Speaker 2: a ton of points, I think you could maybe so

1204
00:52:12,120 --> 00:52:13,560
Speaker 2: high on them. I'll take them.

1205
00:52:14,000 --> 00:52:15,880
Speaker 6: I'll take I'll take them right off here, Like this

1206
00:52:15,960 --> 00:52:19,800
Speaker 6: is unprecedented, but like, what is it like one touchdown

1207
00:52:19,840 --> 00:52:22,400
Speaker 6: in fifteen passing in fifteen interceptions or something.

1208
00:52:22,200 --> 00:52:26,080
Speaker 7: Like eighteen interceptions there the passing against the Patriots leads

1209
00:52:26,080 --> 00:52:28,560
Speaker 7: to a thirty five quarterback rating and then complete passes

1210
00:52:28,560 --> 00:52:29,640
Speaker 7: a thirty nine quarter.

1211
00:52:29,560 --> 00:52:32,759
Speaker 2: I mean, the Patriots defense is the is the Fantasy

1212
00:52:32,920 --> 00:52:34,000
Speaker 2: MVP of the.

1213
00:52:33,880 --> 00:52:36,640
Speaker 7: Season, breaking Fantasy football every time they're not on the

1214
00:52:36,680 --> 00:52:39,239
Speaker 7: main slate I get super excited, and then yesterday, you know,

1215
00:52:39,280 --> 00:52:41,439
Speaker 7: you see that the Patriots defense is gonna be fifty

1216
00:52:41,440 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 7: percent and showdown GPPs, and they're priced with James White.

1217
00:52:46,480 --> 00:52:47,680
Speaker 7: Turns out they were the best player.

1218
00:52:48,320 --> 00:52:50,480
Speaker 3: It's unprecedented.

1219
00:52:50,600 --> 00:52:52,680
Speaker 6: Like I'm big on, you know, I think a lot

1220
00:52:52,680 --> 00:52:54,600
Speaker 6: of times we have these like hard fast rules and

1221
00:52:54,800 --> 00:52:57,040
Speaker 6: there's always these like outliers, and I just try to

1222
00:52:57,080 --> 00:53:00,280
Speaker 6: like notice them, you know, at like before the Sason

1223
00:53:00,320 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 6: I started coming around on and it didn't quite work out,

1224
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:04,800
Speaker 6: you know, with him hurt, But like you know, Patrick

1225
00:53:04,800 --> 00:53:07,080
Speaker 6: Mahomes like outlier. You can't treat him like every other

1226
00:53:07,160 --> 00:53:09,360
Speaker 6: late round quarterback. I think the Patriots defense is the

1227
00:53:09,400 --> 00:53:11,919
Speaker 6: same thing. Like you just can't treat them like every

1228
00:53:11,960 --> 00:53:15,799
Speaker 6: other defense right now because they're literally putting up, you know,

1229
00:53:15,880 --> 00:53:18,399
Speaker 6: running back numbers and if somebody is willing to sell,

1230
00:53:18,560 --> 00:53:21,160
Speaker 6: I personally think you should try to float deals out

1231
00:53:21,160 --> 00:53:22,799
Speaker 6: if you have like extra especially if you have like

1232
00:53:22,800 --> 00:53:25,640
Speaker 6: extra wide receivers lying around, like wide receiver three types.

1233
00:53:25,800 --> 00:53:27,840
Speaker 6: You package like a couple of those guys and you

1234
00:53:27,880 --> 00:53:30,200
Speaker 6: can get like the Pats defense and somebody else in return.

1235
00:53:30,640 --> 00:53:31,600
Speaker 3: I would also about.

1236
00:53:31,600 --> 00:53:33,640
Speaker 7: It's all about knowing your league too, right, you know,

1237
00:53:33,640 --> 00:53:35,839
Speaker 7: if you're playing a low end leagues. I saw someone

1238
00:53:35,880 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 7: post that they traded the Patriots defense for Alvin Kamara.

1239
00:53:40,040 --> 00:53:43,040
Speaker 2: Yeah. Yeah, so so, Chris, I think I think it

1240
00:53:43,040 --> 00:53:45,040
Speaker 2: cuts both ways. So I agree with you that at

1241
00:53:45,040 --> 00:53:46,919
Speaker 2: this point they are the I think the clear number

1242
00:53:47,000 --> 00:53:49,440
Speaker 2: one defense, and they have a lot of points scoring

1243
00:53:49,480 --> 00:53:52,239
Speaker 2: potential moving forward. That said, if you can trade them

1244
00:53:52,280 --> 00:53:54,439
Speaker 2: to someone who values them as if they were going

1245
00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 2: to produce the points moving forward that they have in

1246
00:53:57,280 --> 00:54:00,279
Speaker 2: the past seven weeks, because they're not, like, I don't

1247
00:54:00,280 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 2: think it's likely that they're going to score as many

1248
00:54:02,640 --> 00:54:04,799
Speaker 2: points moving forward on a per game basis as they

1249
00:54:04,840 --> 00:54:08,240
Speaker 2: have previously. So if you can trade them at that value,

1250
00:54:08,320 --> 00:54:10,160
Speaker 2: I think that's where you try to trade them.

1251
00:54:10,200 --> 00:54:12,000
Speaker 3: Well, here's why I'm not trading them. Here's why I'm

1252
00:54:12,000 --> 00:54:12,560
Speaker 3: not trading him.

1253
00:54:12,640 --> 00:54:16,399
Speaker 6: Week fifteen at Cincinnati Week sixteen versus Buffalo those that's

1254
00:54:16,440 --> 00:54:18,360
Speaker 6: an amazing Fantasy playoff matchup.

1255
00:54:18,440 --> 00:54:19,480
Speaker 3: I want them on my roster.

1256
00:54:19,840 --> 00:54:25,080
Speaker 2: Okay, fair enough, All right, next question here we have Elliott.

1257
00:54:25,200 --> 00:54:27,760
Speaker 2: This is from Michael Bulk. Would you drop Damian Williams

1258
00:54:27,840 --> 00:54:29,960
Speaker 2: or Melvin Gordon to pick up Chase Edmonds.

1259
00:54:31,080 --> 00:54:33,200
Speaker 7: Yeah, I got to say, as someone who has way

1260
00:54:33,239 --> 00:54:35,360
Speaker 7: too much Damian Williams on all their best ball teams.

1261
00:54:35,360 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 7: This pains me to say this, but I think I'd

1262
00:54:37,120 --> 00:54:39,839
Speaker 7: rather have Chase Edmonds going forward than Damian Williams. He's

1263
00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,880
Speaker 7: kind of where we're talking about I got it splitting

1264
00:54:41,880 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 7: snaps three ways.

1265
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:44,480
Speaker 4: He's not really get involved in the past game.

1266
00:54:44,480 --> 00:54:48,319
Speaker 7: There's no Patrick Mahomes, and if something's really wrong with

1267
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:51,200
Speaker 7: David Johnson's got a bump, ankle and ba back, Chase

1268
00:54:51,320 --> 00:54:53,520
Speaker 7: Edmonds can win you a fantasy title.

1269
00:54:53,520 --> 00:54:54,200
Speaker 4: Melvin Gordon.

1270
00:54:54,800 --> 00:54:57,480
Speaker 7: I mean, eventually, the man will run for over three yards, right,

1271
00:54:57,520 --> 00:54:59,719
Speaker 7: and as long as he's getting sixteen touches a game,

1272
00:55:00,000 --> 00:55:01,960
Speaker 7: I'd rather have him than Damian Williams going forward.

1273
00:55:02,120 --> 00:55:06,120
Speaker 2: Yeah, Damian Williams the scariest environment imaginable. All right, Elliott?

1274
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