1 00:00:00,240 --> 00:00:03,559 Speaker 1: This deep Dive podcast brought to you by Cozy Earth. 2 00:00:03,640 --> 00:00:06,960 Speaker 1: Home isn't just where you live, it's how you feel. 3 00:00:10,000 --> 00:00:14,320 Speaker 1: Welcome to Clay and Bucks Deep Dive podcast, taking an 4 00:00:14,360 --> 00:00:18,040 Speaker 1: issue and going a little deeper so you can too. 5 00:00:18,480 --> 00:00:21,280 Speaker 2: There are guba of toil races that are underway. Some 6 00:00:21,320 --> 00:00:23,840 Speaker 2: of them are going to be hotly contested in important states, 7 00:00:24,280 --> 00:00:27,040 Speaker 2: places like Virginia. We had win some sears on she's 8 00:00:27,040 --> 00:00:30,920 Speaker 2: a lieutenant governor, very impressive woman. But in New Jersey. 9 00:00:31,360 --> 00:00:37,560 Speaker 2: Remember New Jersey was a much closer election. What was it, Clay, 10 00:00:37,560 --> 00:00:39,800 Speaker 2: It was not this, but it was it was in 11 00:00:39,840 --> 00:00:43,479 Speaker 2: the off year that that that Glenn was up in. 12 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,800 Speaker 1: Point or two in twenty twenty one. And remember Trump's 13 00:00:46,800 --> 00:00:50,160 Speaker 1: only lost New Jersey by five last year. And they think, 14 00:00:50,240 --> 00:00:53,479 Speaker 1: the Trump team does if they had had Commawa level 15 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,920 Speaker 1: money that they could have flip New Jersey into their column. 16 00:00:57,440 --> 00:01:01,840 Speaker 2: So New Jersey is still blue. But it's more interesting 17 00:01:01,920 --> 00:01:05,080 Speaker 2: than they wanted to be. But for sure, and this 18 00:01:05,200 --> 00:01:08,320 Speaker 2: might help a bit more. This is just one of 19 00:01:08,360 --> 00:01:12,440 Speaker 2: the great moments on Charlemagne the God on the Breakfast Club. 20 00:01:12,920 --> 00:01:19,119 Speaker 2: Mister the God was sitting down with Democrat candidate New 21 00:01:19,200 --> 00:01:24,800 Speaker 2: Jersey governor Mikey Cheryl. So the Democrat, sorry, Democrat candidate 22 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:30,240 Speaker 2: for governor, Mikey Cheryl, and I'm not familiar. That's why 23 00:01:30,240 --> 00:01:32,680 Speaker 2: I'm asking people to weigh in a little bit on 24 00:01:32,760 --> 00:01:35,280 Speaker 2: what do I need to know about Mikey Cheryl. But 25 00:01:35,360 --> 00:01:38,280 Speaker 2: this was a great moment, and mister the God asked 26 00:01:38,319 --> 00:01:40,720 Speaker 2: about this, and I think it was worth us all 27 00:01:40,800 --> 00:01:44,320 Speaker 2: just hearing for a second, because people are very sick 28 00:01:44,360 --> 00:01:52,720 Speaker 2: and tired of members of Congress, particularly who seemingly are 29 00:01:52,760 --> 00:01:56,280 Speaker 2: trading in a way in the stock market that mirrors 30 00:01:56,320 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 2: information that they would only have access to because of 31 00:01:58,680 --> 00:02:01,320 Speaker 2: things that they're doing in Congress and making a lot 32 00:02:01,360 --> 00:02:05,480 Speaker 2: of money. She was asked Mikey Cheryl about this, and 33 00:02:05,560 --> 00:02:08,560 Speaker 2: here is the response from the Breakfast Club a couple 34 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,200 Speaker 2: of days ago. 35 00:02:10,360 --> 00:02:12,640 Speaker 3: Play this one when Newsmax claimed that you made seven 36 00:02:12,639 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 3: million dollars from stock trades? What are they talking about? 37 00:02:15,120 --> 00:02:18,720 Speaker 4: News Max is first of all, a very questionable organization 38 00:02:18,800 --> 00:02:22,520 Speaker 4: that is paying multiple fines. I'm not sure what they're 39 00:02:22,600 --> 00:02:23,200 Speaker 4: talking about. 40 00:02:23,480 --> 00:02:25,400 Speaker 3: Well, did you make seven million in stock trades at all? 41 00:02:25,440 --> 00:02:31,600 Speaker 4: Though I haven't. I don't believe I did, but i'd 42 00:02:31,639 --> 00:02:35,000 Speaker 4: have to go see what that was alluding to, again, 43 00:02:35,120 --> 00:02:38,519 Speaker 4: what kind of came from uh clay. 44 00:02:39,120 --> 00:02:41,760 Speaker 2: I think if you're a member of Congress making about 45 00:02:41,760 --> 00:02:45,080 Speaker 2: one hundred and eighty grand, By the way, I think 46 00:02:45,120 --> 00:02:48,680 Speaker 2: that if you made seven million dollars trading the stock market, 47 00:02:48,720 --> 00:02:51,359 Speaker 2: whether somebody else is making those trades on your behalf 48 00:02:51,440 --> 00:02:54,640 Speaker 2: or you're making them, I think you should. 49 00:02:54,360 --> 00:03:01,000 Speaker 1: Know, unless you're a billionaire and so rich that you 50 00:03:01,080 --> 00:03:05,360 Speaker 1: could plausibly say I don't know what happened with seven 51 00:03:05,400 --> 00:03:10,000 Speaker 1: million dollars. Ninety nine point nine to nine percent of 52 00:03:10,040 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 1: people in America would know if they made seven million 53 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,960 Speaker 1: dollars or not in the stock market. A lot of 54 00:03:16,000 --> 00:03:18,640 Speaker 1: you out there would know if you made seven hundred 55 00:03:18,720 --> 00:03:22,079 Speaker 1: dollars in the stock market or not. Certainly seven thousand 56 00:03:22,320 --> 00:03:25,960 Speaker 1: or seventy thousand, to say nothing of seven million. 57 00:03:26,600 --> 00:03:29,040 Speaker 2: These people are so bad at this buck. 58 00:03:29,280 --> 00:03:33,440 Speaker 1: I just I watched so many of these politicians, and 59 00:03:33,480 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: we've reached out, by the way to Jack Ciarelli, who 60 00:03:36,280 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 1: is the Republican contender who almost won in twenty twenty one. 61 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:43,920 Speaker 1: He is the nominee on the Republican side for this race. 62 00:03:44,000 --> 00:03:47,920 Speaker 1: To remind all of you Virginia and New Jersey and 63 00:03:47,960 --> 00:03:52,279 Speaker 1: the mayor of New York City are all off calendar elections, 64 00:03:52,480 --> 00:03:55,120 Speaker 1: so they will be taking place this November. That's in 65 00:03:55,240 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 1: basically six weeks. Some of you basically can already go 66 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:02,240 Speaker 1: early vote on these. I just I mean credit to 67 00:04:02,320 --> 00:04:04,960 Speaker 1: Charlotte Mane, the god who is of the left, I think, 68 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:08,440 Speaker 1: but is kind of pointing out a seven million dollars 69 00:04:08,800 --> 00:04:10,720 Speaker 1: Can you follow up and just kind of tell us 70 00:04:10,720 --> 00:04:11,480 Speaker 1: about coming here? 71 00:04:11,880 --> 00:04:15,520 Speaker 2: All right, I've got some I've got some some stats 72 00:04:15,520 --> 00:04:20,200 Speaker 2: and numbers to throw into the mix here. Cheryl makes 73 00:04:20,240 --> 00:04:21,799 Speaker 2: I said one hundred and eight one hundred and seventy 74 00:04:21,800 --> 00:04:26,800 Speaker 2: four grand as New Jersey's eleventh congressional district rep. So 75 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:30,400 Speaker 2: she remember, they have financial disclosures everybody, so we can 76 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:35,239 Speaker 2: know this public it's public record how much money these 77 00:04:35,360 --> 00:04:38,520 Speaker 2: individuals have within a range, but you have some sense 78 00:04:38,520 --> 00:04:42,120 Speaker 2: of it, right, So in twenty nineteen she reported total 79 00:04:42,160 --> 00:04:45,640 Speaker 2: assets between seven hundred and thirty and I'm just gonna 80 00:04:45,720 --> 00:04:47,920 Speaker 2: abbreviate the numbers year, but seven hundred and thirty thousand 81 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,559 Speaker 2: and four point three million dollars. Now that's a huge range. 82 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,480 Speaker 2: By the way, yes, does that includes your house? 83 00:04:52,960 --> 00:04:53,159 Speaker 3: You know? 84 00:04:53,279 --> 00:04:55,480 Speaker 2: To anybody listening, the difference in being worth seven hundred 85 00:04:55,520 --> 00:04:57,680 Speaker 2: grand on paper and being worth four million on paper 86 00:04:58,160 --> 00:05:02,640 Speaker 2: feels like a lot. But anyway, that's where she was. 87 00:05:03,200 --> 00:05:06,559 Speaker 2: But Clay in her most recent one, in her most 88 00:05:06,560 --> 00:05:12,400 Speaker 2: recent disclosure form, she's worth more like twelve million. Yeah, 89 00:05:12,440 --> 00:05:15,560 Speaker 2: this and so and so. You say to yourself, wait 90 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:18,479 Speaker 2: a second, she's making one hundred and seventy four It's 91 00:05:18,520 --> 00:05:20,719 Speaker 2: not like she had some huge trust fund, because we 92 00:05:20,760 --> 00:05:24,599 Speaker 2: would know that from the financial disclosure forms previously. So 93 00:05:24,800 --> 00:05:30,160 Speaker 2: somehow she has and Jack Chidarelli has come out and 94 00:05:30,200 --> 00:05:33,040 Speaker 2: hammered her on this somehow while a member of Congress 95 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:37,440 Speaker 2: sitting on the Arms Services Committee who allegedly has a 96 00:05:37,480 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: fondness for trading clay and defense stocks, saying, interesting, she 97 00:05:44,440 --> 00:05:46,880 Speaker 2: has gone from being worth you know, let's call it 98 00:05:46,920 --> 00:05:48,720 Speaker 2: a couple million dollars to put it in the middle, 99 00:05:48,760 --> 00:05:50,880 Speaker 2: to being worth about twelve million dollars. I mean, she 100 00:05:50,960 --> 00:05:53,479 Speaker 2: could be worth as much as four million there even still, 101 00:05:53,520 --> 00:05:57,120 Speaker 2: that would be a tripling of her net worth while 102 00:05:57,160 --> 00:05:58,640 Speaker 2: making one hundred and eighty grand a year. 103 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:04,919 Speaker 1: Now, sometimes spouses make the money, which can also sometimes 104 00:06:04,960 --> 00:06:08,039 Speaker 1: be suspect, right because they'll say, well, this is not 105 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: the money that I'm making this is my spouse. I 106 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:13,280 Speaker 1: think this is what happened with and I don't even 107 00:06:13,279 --> 00:06:15,160 Speaker 1: know who her spouse is now, but. 108 00:06:15,200 --> 00:06:18,720 Speaker 2: Elon Holmen Now's we'll get he's an investment banker, so 109 00:06:18,880 --> 00:06:23,240 Speaker 2: his compensation may be a significant part of this. But 110 00:06:23,400 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 2: lay she was fined for failing to disclose stock sales 111 00:06:27,440 --> 00:06:28,440 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty one. 112 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:33,000 Speaker 1: Well, this is where it gets very shady. Okay, correct 113 00:06:33,000 --> 00:06:35,000 Speaker 1: me if I'm wrong on this, because this seems like 114 00:06:35,040 --> 00:06:39,200 Speaker 1: something that shouldn't be allowed. You basically cannot prosecute elected 115 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:45,120 Speaker 1: officials like congressmen and senators for insider trading. Correct, because 116 00:06:45,200 --> 00:06:48,480 Speaker 1: they get all sorts of information that is not public 117 00:06:49,360 --> 00:06:51,880 Speaker 1: and then they're allowed to trade on it. And this 118 00:06:51,960 --> 00:06:53,880 Speaker 1: is where it gets super shady. This is like the 119 00:06:54,000 --> 00:06:59,880 Speaker 1: Nancy Pelosi situation. The spouse oftentimes is the person who 120 00:07:00,160 --> 00:07:04,160 Speaker 1: actually trading on this, and they are able to monetize 121 00:07:04,200 --> 00:07:07,080 Speaker 1: this in a way that is hyper shady. Remember, if 122 00:07:07,120 --> 00:07:11,760 Speaker 1: you look at Nancy Pelosi's trading record for stocks, she's 123 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:15,400 Speaker 1: somehow better than Warren Buffett at buying and selling stocks. 124 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: There's a Nancy tracker out there where you can look 125 00:07:18,840 --> 00:07:21,720 Speaker 1: at all the moves Pelosi makes because they have to 126 00:07:21,800 --> 00:07:28,840 Speaker 1: disclose it. I don't understand why it isn't basic required 127 00:07:29,880 --> 00:07:34,000 Speaker 1: for everybody out there to put their holdings in a 128 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:38,200 Speaker 1: trust and just use that. Let me give you an example, Buck, 129 00:07:39,600 --> 00:07:42,240 Speaker 1: most of my money after I sold out Kick that 130 00:07:42,520 --> 00:07:46,080 Speaker 1: is not in real estate is in S and P 131 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:47,720 Speaker 1: five hundred index funds. 132 00:07:48,000 --> 00:07:48,880 Speaker 5: That is, I just. 133 00:07:48,880 --> 00:07:52,160 Speaker 1: Buy the five hundred largest companies in America. Ninety percent 134 00:07:52,200 --> 00:07:55,680 Speaker 1: of the time the S and P five hundred outperforms experts. 135 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:59,920 Speaker 1: I am not buying large buying and selling very many stocks. Now, 136 00:08:00,040 --> 00:08:03,600 Speaker 1: there's no restriction on me buying and selling very many 137 00:08:03,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 1: stocks in the first place. But I would say about 138 00:08:06,280 --> 00:08:11,400 Speaker 1: five percent of my stock assets are in physical stocks 139 00:08:11,440 --> 00:08:15,160 Speaker 1: that I control, and about ninety five percent is effectively 140 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:17,320 Speaker 1: an S and P five hundred index funds. I don't 141 00:08:17,400 --> 00:08:21,840 Speaker 1: understand why it isn't standard for everybody, Democrat, Republican, independent, 142 00:08:21,880 --> 00:08:25,160 Speaker 1: who was elected to Congress to put their assets their 143 00:08:25,200 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 1: four oh one k their individual stocks, just put it 144 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:31,120 Speaker 1: into a index fund and say, I'm not going to 145 00:08:31,160 --> 00:08:34,599 Speaker 1: buy and sell individual stocks while I'm a representative of 146 00:08:34,640 --> 00:08:35,880 Speaker 1: the United States Congress. 147 00:08:36,200 --> 00:08:37,160 Speaker 2: What am I missing here? 148 00:08:37,679 --> 00:08:40,160 Speaker 1: To me? That seems like it should be standard for 149 00:08:40,320 --> 00:08:45,280 Speaker 1: everyone out there. And if they're arguing otherwise, I think 150 00:08:45,280 --> 00:08:49,800 Speaker 1: it's highly suspect for people to be trading hundreds of 151 00:08:49,840 --> 00:08:52,760 Speaker 1: times in a year. And remember what happened during COVID, 152 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,600 Speaker 1: because I haven't forgotten this. Remember when they got the 153 00:08:56,679 --> 00:09:00,400 Speaker 1: briefings about how dangerous COVID was going to be, what 154 00:09:00,440 --> 00:09:02,880 Speaker 1: was going to happen, and a ton of congressmen and 155 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,080 Speaker 1: women immediately sold all their stocks before the stock market 156 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,840 Speaker 1: started to decline. They got access to information that you 157 00:09:09,920 --> 00:09:12,960 Speaker 1: and I didn't have access to about what was going 158 00:09:13,040 --> 00:09:16,920 Speaker 1: to happen in terms of shutdowns. The stock market plummeted, 159 00:09:18,080 --> 00:09:21,440 Speaker 1: and a lot of congressmen and women sold before the 160 00:09:21,480 --> 00:09:25,760 Speaker 1: stock market collapsed, and then bought at bottoms and made 161 00:09:25,840 --> 00:09:28,800 Speaker 1: a ton of money off information that's not public. I 162 00:09:28,840 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 1: don't know what I'm missing here. This candidate, I think 163 00:09:32,000 --> 00:09:35,840 Speaker 1: is lying. I think she has likely benefited off inside information. 164 00:09:36,720 --> 00:09:40,880 Speaker 1: But this is important. When it comes to corruption. We 165 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:44,600 Speaker 1: don't just focus on corruption itself. We focus on the 166 00:09:44,640 --> 00:09:48,760 Speaker 1: appearance of corruption because it's so toxic to public trust. 167 00:09:49,559 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: How is there not a direct appearance of corruption when 168 00:09:53,000 --> 00:09:58,679 Speaker 1: individual congressmen and women are making trades and destroying the 169 00:09:58,720 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: greatest investors of our lifetimes in their results. 170 00:10:02,880 --> 00:10:05,800 Speaker 2: Just just so everybody understands, in something like the National 171 00:10:05,840 --> 00:10:10,520 Speaker 2: Defense Authorization Act or one of those big omnibus or 172 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:12,520 Speaker 2: you know, Perculus or whatever you want to call it, 173 00:10:12,559 --> 00:10:15,640 Speaker 2: these big bills that come out where they're just full 174 00:10:15,679 --> 00:10:18,079 Speaker 2: of pork and they're full of all this spending. If 175 00:10:18,080 --> 00:10:21,600 Speaker 2: you're on some committee and you know that a certain 176 00:10:21,640 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: defense contractor, for example, is about to get correct, a 177 00:10:25,920 --> 00:10:30,440 Speaker 2: three or five or ten billion dollar government contract, guess what, 178 00:10:31,280 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 2: it's probably gonna go up as a stock. Okay, I 179 00:10:34,120 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 2: think we all understand that. And so if you are 180 00:10:37,320 --> 00:10:41,040 Speaker 2: essentially now you know the rules. They've changed the rules 181 00:10:41,040 --> 00:10:43,560 Speaker 2: so that technically there's like a little more reporting and stuff, 182 00:10:43,559 --> 00:10:46,320 Speaker 2: but you're not barred from trading. And let's just let's 183 00:10:46,320 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 2: just take let's just be honest about this. Have you 184 00:10:48,600 --> 00:10:51,360 Speaker 2: seen anybody get in trouble for insider trading from the 185 00:10:51,440 --> 00:10:53,640 Speaker 2: United States Congress. No, I'm not aware of it. 186 00:10:53,679 --> 00:10:55,360 Speaker 1: Right now, I think, but that they're not. You're not 187 00:10:55,400 --> 00:10:58,559 Speaker 1: allowed to be prosecuted for it. I think they to 188 00:10:58,720 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 1: the case. They changed the rules. Let me let me 189 00:11:00,520 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 1: check on it. They made some the Stock Act. 190 00:11:02,440 --> 00:11:05,760 Speaker 2: They made some adjustment to it, but I think it's 191 00:11:05,840 --> 00:11:08,760 Speaker 2: like you can't be prosecuted for knowledge that comes from 192 00:11:08,800 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 2: the course of your job, which is the whole point 193 00:11:11,120 --> 00:11:13,120 Speaker 2: of that. Let me check on this one. I got 194 00:11:13,120 --> 00:11:16,440 Speaker 2: to see what the rules are because this was clay. 195 00:11:16,480 --> 00:11:18,160 Speaker 2: This has been a push for over a decade. People 196 00:11:18,200 --> 00:11:22,000 Speaker 2: have been trying to, you know, trying to figure out 197 00:11:22,880 --> 00:11:26,240 Speaker 2: why members of Congress are able to get so rich. 198 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:31,240 Speaker 1: But larger issue, Yes on that. To me, it's just 199 00:11:31,520 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: it shouldn't be allowed minor issue or secondary issue as 200 00:11:37,280 --> 00:11:41,160 Speaker 1: it pertains to this race. If you made seven million 201 00:11:41,240 --> 00:11:45,240 Speaker 1: dollars in stock trades, you better have a good explanation 202 00:11:45,320 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 1: for how that happened. And again the husband may well 203 00:11:49,679 --> 00:11:52,760 Speaker 1: be the reason. But to claim, oh, I don't know, 204 00:11:52,840 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 1: I'd have to look into that. How out of touch 205 00:11:54,960 --> 00:11:57,040 Speaker 1: are you if you can make seven million dollars and 206 00:11:57,080 --> 00:11:59,680 Speaker 1: not recall whether or not it happened, unless you're a 207 00:11:59,679 --> 00:12:03,360 Speaker 1: billion air and your stock price valuation is constantly going 208 00:12:03,440 --> 00:12:06,680 Speaker 1: up and down. Again, all I'm saying is, I'm not 209 00:12:06,720 --> 00:12:10,440 Speaker 1: a congress person. SNB five hundred index funds a good option. 210 00:12:11,080 --> 00:12:13,439 Speaker 1: Why would we not make that standard for anybody? Who's 211 00:12:13,480 --> 00:12:17,600 Speaker 1: in elective office. Now, there are some complexities, usually blind trust, 212 00:12:17,600 --> 00:12:19,960 Speaker 1: and this is getting into specifics. Let's say you own 213 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:24,160 Speaker 1: a company and that company is publicly traded. You can 214 00:12:24,280 --> 00:12:26,520 Speaker 1: just say, hey, I'm not going to buy or sell stock, 215 00:12:26,760 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: or it's a blind trust, I'm not managing it. There 216 00:12:29,640 --> 00:12:32,240 Speaker 1: are lots of ways to handle this that do not 217 00:12:32,559 --> 00:12:39,160 Speaker 1: create this huge, this huge impression of impropriety that to 218 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:40,360 Speaker 1: me would make a lot of sense. 219 00:12:40,480 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 2: Well, I just would note Clay, So two former members 220 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,120 Speaker 2: of the House of Representatives have been prosecuted and convicted 221 00:12:46,160 --> 00:12:49,920 Speaker 2: for insider trading, which the Stock Act of twenty twelve, 222 00:12:49,920 --> 00:12:51,400 Speaker 2: that's what I referred So this has been going on 223 00:12:51,440 --> 00:12:53,679 Speaker 2: for a while. So there is this Stock Act. It 224 00:12:53,720 --> 00:12:57,280 Speaker 2: doesn't bar them from trading. Obviously there's disclosure requirements. But 225 00:12:57,360 --> 00:13:00,600 Speaker 2: here's the thing. It's super hard because because of the 226 00:13:00,640 --> 00:13:03,640 Speaker 2: information that they're coming to contact with is of a 227 00:13:03,679 --> 00:13:06,760 Speaker 2: political nature. It can be very like if you're going 228 00:13:06,840 --> 00:13:10,120 Speaker 2: to invest in a big defense contractor what's how do 229 00:13:10,160 --> 00:13:12,520 Speaker 2: you know that you don't just you know, they get 230 00:13:12,520 --> 00:13:15,440 Speaker 2: into this mosaic defense strategy for white collar criminals have like, 231 00:13:15,480 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 2: well did I do it? Because I thought of this 232 00:13:17,440 --> 00:13:19,800 Speaker 2: bill that's coming up, or because I love the fundamentals 233 00:13:19,840 --> 00:13:21,320 Speaker 2: and I know I read the latest ten K. 234 00:13:21,440 --> 00:13:26,280 Speaker 1: I mean that's well, also curious on whatever, I would 235 00:13:26,320 --> 00:13:30,160 Speaker 1: be curious what the prosecution for insider trading is because 236 00:13:30,840 --> 00:13:33,960 Speaker 1: those guys could have been prosecuted for actual insider trading 237 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:35,439 Speaker 1: that had nothing to do with Congress. 238 00:13:36,080 --> 00:13:36,280 Speaker 3: Right. 239 00:13:36,720 --> 00:13:39,600 Speaker 1: In other words, I believe the testimony that you hear 240 00:13:39,679 --> 00:13:43,600 Speaker 1: behind closed doors is not allowed to be prosecutable for 241 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,520 Speaker 1: insider trading. You could still be prosecuted if, for instance, 242 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:51,280 Speaker 1: you're out of office and your cousin calls you and 243 00:13:51,320 --> 00:13:54,720 Speaker 1: he sits on the board of X company and he says, hey, 244 00:13:55,480 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: we're about. 245 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:56,920 Speaker 2: To That's what happened. 246 00:13:57,120 --> 00:13:57,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 247 00:13:57,360 --> 00:13:59,560 Speaker 2: By the way, this they actually were not prosecuted. This 248 00:13:59,600 --> 00:14:03,080 Speaker 2: is very in clarification. They were not prosecuted for anything 249 00:14:03,200 --> 00:14:05,600 Speaker 2: under the Stock Act or anything having to do with Congress. 250 00:14:05,800 --> 00:14:11,160 Speaker 2: They were prosecuted for insider trading access they had before 251 00:14:11,160 --> 00:14:13,959 Speaker 2: being in Congress. Yes, that's a different thing. This is 252 00:14:13,960 --> 00:14:14,839 Speaker 2: what I'm saying, Like, you. 253 00:14:14,800 --> 00:14:17,840 Speaker 1: Basically get a free reign to insider trade at Congress. 254 00:14:17,920 --> 00:14:20,360 Speaker 2: So my initial premise of like no one in Congress 255 00:14:20,400 --> 00:14:22,720 Speaker 2: has ever that no one in Congress has ever been 256 00:14:22,760 --> 00:14:26,600 Speaker 2: prosecuted for insider congress insider congressional information that is true. 257 00:14:27,240 --> 00:14:31,800 Speaker 2: This is a Clay and Buck Deep Dive podcast. All right, 258 00:14:31,800 --> 00:14:34,040 Speaker 2: welcome back into Clay and Buck. One of the big 259 00:14:34,160 --> 00:14:38,320 Speaker 2: elections that is going to be determined in this November 260 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:42,400 Speaker 2: cycle is who's going to be the governor of New Jersey, 261 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,240 Speaker 2: the Garden State, a place near and dear to my 262 00:14:45,320 --> 00:14:48,960 Speaker 2: heart as a lifelong New Yorker. It's like our close 263 00:14:49,040 --> 00:14:52,360 Speaker 2: cousin next door. I feel like I'm like an honorary 264 00:14:52,400 --> 00:14:54,560 Speaker 2: New Jersey and in so many ways, and we've got 265 00:14:55,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 2: we've got the man who is trying to make sure 266 00:14:58,720 --> 00:15:03,120 Speaker 2: that it does not fall deep into communist hands. Jack 267 00:15:03,200 --> 00:15:07,120 Speaker 2: Chindarelli is with us now. He is the Republican candidate 268 00:15:07,120 --> 00:15:10,920 Speaker 2: for governor of New Jersey. Jack, appreciate you being with us. 269 00:15:11,440 --> 00:15:13,360 Speaker 3: Thank you for the time. Guys looking forward to it. 270 00:15:13,760 --> 00:15:16,920 Speaker 2: Look, you had a great run back in twenty twenty one, 271 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:20,440 Speaker 2: just a few points from beating Phil Murphy. And you 272 00:15:20,480 --> 00:15:22,720 Speaker 2: know we were talking about it then, we were giving 273 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:25,080 Speaker 2: you the high five. I know it was too much 274 00:15:25,160 --> 00:15:26,880 Speaker 2: to ask in that cycle to pull it off, but 275 00:15:26,960 --> 00:15:31,280 Speaker 2: she came very close. It was a heroic finish. Nonetheless, 276 00:15:31,760 --> 00:15:35,680 Speaker 2: this time around, mister Jack, I'm seeing polls with you 277 00:15:36,320 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 2: dead even, maybe even a couple points ahead. Can you 278 00:15:40,080 --> 00:15:40,760 Speaker 2: pull it off? 279 00:15:41,160 --> 00:15:41,320 Speaker 3: Need? 280 00:15:41,400 --> 00:15:43,000 Speaker 2: What do we need to know about this race? 281 00:15:44,320 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 3: That it is a dead heat right now? And that's 282 00:15:46,160 --> 00:15:48,160 Speaker 3: really good news for Republican I mean, we are the 283 00:15:48,200 --> 00:15:51,160 Speaker 3: minority party in the state, but we're going to continue 284 00:15:51,160 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 3: to get out there over the last thirty nine days. 285 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:56,320 Speaker 3: Make it happen. And when you see Democratic mayors across 286 00:15:56,360 --> 00:15:59,520 Speaker 3: the state in Dorsey, Mike candidcy, I think it only 287 00:15:59,560 --> 00:16:02,240 Speaker 3: reaffirms that people across the state have had it with 288 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 3: Phil murphy sale policies, and they know that my opponent 289 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:06,720 Speaker 3: is Murphy two point zero. 290 00:16:08,120 --> 00:16:10,560 Speaker 1: What should people who want you to win. We've got 291 00:16:10,600 --> 00:16:13,360 Speaker 1: a big audience all over New Jersey. What should they 292 00:16:13,480 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: know to do? What should they know about when early 293 00:16:16,600 --> 00:16:20,000 Speaker 1: voting starts? How to donate? Give us your pitch right now? 294 00:16:20,120 --> 00:16:23,360 Speaker 1: You said, I think thirty nine days out. What needs 295 00:16:23,360 --> 00:16:25,320 Speaker 1: to happen in the next thirty nine days. What should 296 00:16:25,320 --> 00:16:28,000 Speaker 1: people listening to us right now do to support you. 297 00:16:29,000 --> 00:16:31,440 Speaker 3: The vote by mail ballots have already been mailed. They 298 00:16:31,440 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 3: went out last week. So if you're a vote by mail, 299 00:16:33,960 --> 00:16:37,120 Speaker 3: vote by mail ballot voter. We want you to get 300 00:16:37,120 --> 00:16:39,880 Speaker 3: that in. There'll be nine days of early voting leading 301 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:42,760 Speaker 3: up to election day and then of course Tuesday the fourth. 302 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:45,680 Speaker 3: But what differentiates me from my opponent is Cheda Relly's 303 00:16:45,680 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 3: have been here for one hundred years and three generations 304 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:51,400 Speaker 3: of Cheddarrellyes, of a loving business owners and created jobs 305 00:16:51,440 --> 00:16:53,600 Speaker 3: read here in New Jersey. My opponent hasn't been here 306 00:16:53,640 --> 00:16:56,720 Speaker 3: all that long, and she spent happetizer's been here in 307 00:16:56,720 --> 00:16:59,600 Speaker 3: the Congress, and during that time, she tripled her net worth, 308 00:17:00,120 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 3: broke federal law on stock trades and stock reporting for 309 00:17:02,880 --> 00:17:03,640 Speaker 3: congress people. 310 00:17:04,640 --> 00:17:07,160 Speaker 2: Now, what would you Let's let's before we get into 311 00:17:07,160 --> 00:17:09,320 Speaker 2: what she would do, other than apparently make a lot 312 00:17:09,359 --> 00:17:11,760 Speaker 2: of money in the stock market on some defense stocks 313 00:17:11,800 --> 00:17:14,280 Speaker 2: that she doesn't remember. You know, it's seven million here, 314 00:17:14,400 --> 00:17:15,879 Speaker 2: seven million there. I mean that's a. 315 00:17:16,800 --> 00:17:20,080 Speaker 1: Second when Charlemagne, the god to Buck's Point can ask 316 00:17:20,160 --> 00:17:22,920 Speaker 1: her how did you make seven million dollars and she says, 317 00:17:23,000 --> 00:17:25,880 Speaker 1: I don't know basically, or she had no idea how 318 00:17:25,920 --> 00:17:28,240 Speaker 1: she made it. I think that's pretty tough for most 319 00:17:28,280 --> 00:17:31,040 Speaker 1: New Jerseyans out there to say you know. I think 320 00:17:31,080 --> 00:17:32,840 Speaker 1: i'd know if I made seven million dollars. 321 00:17:33,760 --> 00:17:37,120 Speaker 3: It's a disqualifier. Who wouldn't know if their net worth 322 00:17:37,160 --> 00:17:39,840 Speaker 3: A triples in such a short period of time. Who 323 00:17:39,920 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 3: wouldn't know where an additional seven million dollars came from. 324 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,119 Speaker 3: Here's what we do know. She broke federal law and 325 00:17:46,359 --> 00:17:48,520 Speaker 3: had to pay fines for it as a congress person. Well, 326 00:17:48,520 --> 00:17:50,440 Speaker 3: here's what else? Is something we know? The New York 327 00:17:50,480 --> 00:17:53,280 Speaker 3: Times reports while she was sitting on the House Armed 328 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:56,840 Speaker 3: Services Committee, she was trading defense stocks. I mean, this 329 00:17:56,920 --> 00:18:00,000 Speaker 3: really calls into question her character, as does the stunning 330 00:18:00,080 --> 00:18:03,080 Speaker 3: revelation of yesterday that she didn't participate in the graduation 331 00:18:03,240 --> 00:18:06,160 Speaker 3: ceremonies at the Naval Academy back in nineteen ninety four. 332 00:18:06,800 --> 00:18:10,600 Speaker 1: And now we saw that story about the Naval Academy, 333 00:18:11,480 --> 00:18:14,000 Speaker 1: and we talked about it yesterday with our friend Ryan Gardusky. 334 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:16,879 Speaker 1: What is that story? I think it was from nineteen 335 00:18:16,960 --> 00:18:20,080 Speaker 1: ninety four, and why does it matter to you? How 336 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,439 Speaker 1: does it connect to her today? 337 00:18:22,480 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 3: She's built her entire political brand around the fact that 338 00:18:26,880 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 3: she attended the Naval Academy, but she hasn't been transparent 339 00:18:30,359 --> 00:18:33,399 Speaker 3: with us. The Naval Academy punished her, and we believe 340 00:18:33,400 --> 00:18:36,439 Speaker 3: it's for lying, and so she did not get to 341 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,960 Speaker 3: participate in her graduation ceremonies. She can clear this all 342 00:18:40,040 --> 00:18:45,000 Speaker 3: up by approving the release of her disciplinary records. She's 343 00:18:45,000 --> 00:18:47,159 Speaker 3: not doing that, and I think that tells us a 344 00:18:47,200 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 3: whole lot. And for her to say that, what she's 345 00:18:51,359 --> 00:18:53,440 Speaker 3: been saying out there in the public, I think it's 346 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 3: code for having lied to the investigators. Quite frankly, she's 347 00:18:56,560 --> 00:18:58,920 Speaker 3: saying that she covered for her friends. Who did she 348 00:19:00,240 --> 00:19:01,640 Speaker 3: code for lying to investigators. 349 00:19:02,640 --> 00:19:05,480 Speaker 2: Now, we got a lot of wo R, which is 350 00:19:05,720 --> 00:19:08,359 Speaker 2: our New York City based affiliate. Obviously that signal is 351 00:19:08,480 --> 00:19:12,280 Speaker 2: huge all across particularly the northern half of the Garden. 352 00:19:12,320 --> 00:19:14,040 Speaker 2: It reaches well beyond that. We have a lot of 353 00:19:14,040 --> 00:19:16,320 Speaker 2: listeners who are commuters in the New York City who 354 00:19:16,359 --> 00:19:19,880 Speaker 2: listen on w or Jack and so they're very interested 355 00:19:19,920 --> 00:19:22,200 Speaker 2: to know what are you going to do if you 356 00:19:22,320 --> 00:19:26,600 Speaker 2: become governor? To make what is I'm from Manhattan, so 357 00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:28,399 Speaker 2: we like to make you know. The occasional give a 358 00:19:28,400 --> 00:19:30,480 Speaker 2: little ribbing to New Jersey. But I love New Jersey. 359 00:19:30,480 --> 00:19:33,119 Speaker 2: It is a great state, beautiful state, a lot of 360 00:19:33,119 --> 00:19:35,400 Speaker 2: things going for it. What are you going to do 361 00:19:35,880 --> 00:19:38,920 Speaker 2: to take New Jersey to the next level, either problems 362 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,320 Speaker 2: to fix or just things to focus on in the future. 363 00:19:42,440 --> 00:19:45,040 Speaker 2: If you are in fact able to pull off this 364 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:49,440 Speaker 2: very very photo finished governor's race, we. 365 00:19:49,400 --> 00:19:51,080 Speaker 3: Are going to pull it off. And there's a number 366 00:19:51,080 --> 00:19:52,520 Speaker 3: of things we're going to do in cleaning those things 367 00:19:52,520 --> 00:19:54,160 Speaker 3: on day one. But here's one thing I'm never gonna 368 00:19:54,160 --> 00:19:58,480 Speaker 3: do is lie to the people in New Jersey. This laughable, illegitimate, 369 00:19:58,600 --> 00:20:01,639 Speaker 3: not feasible up plan that she's put forth to declare 370 00:20:01,640 --> 00:20:04,760 Speaker 3: a state emergency to freeze our electricity rates. Why would 371 00:20:04,760 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: we want to freeze them at an all time high? 372 00:20:07,080 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 3: We want to lower them. I could do that on 373 00:20:09,000 --> 00:20:12,320 Speaker 3: day one by pulling out of the Regional Greenhouse Gas Initiative. 374 00:20:12,640 --> 00:20:15,959 Speaker 3: This is a carbon tax policy that's been in places 375 00:20:16,040 --> 00:20:20,280 Speaker 3: Murphy took office. The air is no cleaner, electricity as skyrocketed, 376 00:20:20,640 --> 00:20:22,960 Speaker 3: and rate payer dollars are going to other states. I 377 00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,719 Speaker 3: could save half a billion dollars a year in rate 378 00:20:24,760 --> 00:20:27,919 Speaker 3: payers dollars, homeowners, tennants, and businesses. We need to get 379 00:20:27,960 --> 00:20:31,800 Speaker 3: electricity rates down. Also, on day one, I'll end the 380 00:20:31,840 --> 00:20:35,240 Speaker 3: Immigrant Trust Directive. We'll no longer have sanctuary cities and 381 00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,879 Speaker 3: we will not be a sanctuary state. Also, on day one, 382 00:20:37,880 --> 00:20:40,600 Speaker 3: I'll give us an attorney general that supports both police 383 00:20:40,600 --> 00:20:42,760 Speaker 3: and parents. The current Attorny Jones does not. 384 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:49,119 Speaker 1: You lost, as we said, very close race in twenty 385 00:20:49,200 --> 00:20:53,240 Speaker 1: twenty one, Trump lost a very close race in New Jersey. 386 00:20:53,280 --> 00:20:56,159 Speaker 1: I think it came down to basically five points. The 387 00:20:56,200 --> 00:20:58,920 Speaker 1: Trump team said, Hey, if we had the money Kamala had, 388 00:20:59,000 --> 00:21:00,560 Speaker 1: we could have poured it in. We might have been 389 00:21:00,600 --> 00:21:04,359 Speaker 1: able to win New Jersey. Why is New Jersey moving red? 390 00:21:04,560 --> 00:21:07,000 Speaker 1: And why do you think now is the time when 391 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,560 Speaker 1: you're going to kick the door down and win this 392 00:21:09,440 --> 00:21:11,080 Speaker 1: race here in thirty nine days. 393 00:21:11,960 --> 00:21:15,760 Speaker 3: It's all because Phil Murphy's policies have has failed. Across 394 00:21:15,800 --> 00:21:19,320 Speaker 3: the board. Taxes up every year since he took office, 395 00:21:19,560 --> 00:21:22,600 Speaker 3: spending up seventy percent. When he took over, the state 396 00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,720 Speaker 3: budget was thirty six billion. It's now fifty nine million, 397 00:21:26,040 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 3: seventy percent increase. Housing. We've got an overdevelopment crisis going 398 00:21:30,119 --> 00:21:33,359 Speaker 3: on in our suburban communities. Public education we slip from 399 00:21:33,400 --> 00:21:36,280 Speaker 3: two to twelve on the national report card with all 400 00:21:36,280 --> 00:21:38,560 Speaker 3: the learning laws in the post pandemic world, because he's 401 00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:43,080 Speaker 3: shut down the schools for two years. Law enforcement, nonviolent 402 00:21:43,080 --> 00:21:46,359 Speaker 3: crime has spiked, break in his car, thefts, flash mubs 403 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,480 Speaker 3: on the Jersey shore, and on our malls. Why because 404 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:53,560 Speaker 3: his attorney general's handcuffed our local police. These are the issues, 405 00:21:53,840 --> 00:21:57,320 Speaker 3: and they represent policy failures in the past seven plus years. 406 00:21:57,480 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 3: And my opponent has endorsed every one of these policies. 407 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,359 Speaker 3: In fact, in some cases, like the wind farms, she's 408 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:03,000 Speaker 3: doubled down. 409 00:22:04,320 --> 00:22:07,600 Speaker 2: It's remarkable to see how I think there was a 410 00:22:07,600 --> 00:22:12,480 Speaker 2: clip already circulating Jack of Mikey Cheryl saying your opponent 411 00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,040 Speaker 2: that she can't even commit to not raising taxes on 412 00:22:16,040 --> 00:22:18,720 Speaker 2: the middle class like she's. Tax raises are on the 413 00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:20,959 Speaker 2: table all across the board from what I can understand, 414 00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:24,720 Speaker 2: which for your state is already pretty heavily taxed date. 415 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:26,600 Speaker 2: From what I understand, I mean, I was living in 416 00:22:26,640 --> 00:22:29,159 Speaker 2: New York City, where it's completely insane, but New Jersey 417 00:22:29,200 --> 00:22:30,680 Speaker 2: taxes under Murphy have been rough. 418 00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:36,399 Speaker 3: This was an astonishing moment at the debate. She's been lying, Lee, 419 00:22:36,560 --> 00:22:39,959 Speaker 3: lying blatantly about me raising the sales tax to ten percent, 420 00:22:40,480 --> 00:22:42,640 Speaker 3: and yet at the debate when I was asked, I said, 421 00:22:42,640 --> 00:22:44,959 Speaker 3: the sales tax is not going to be increased. I 422 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 3: will lower property taxes, I will lower income taxes. I 423 00:22:48,240 --> 00:22:50,560 Speaker 3: gave specific ways on how I'm going to do that 424 00:22:50,600 --> 00:22:53,240 Speaker 3: in a very fiscally responsible way. They then asked her 425 00:22:53,280 --> 00:22:55,359 Speaker 3: the same question, and she said, I'm not going to 426 00:22:55,400 --> 00:22:58,560 Speaker 3: commit to anything. So wait a second. You're lying about 427 00:22:58,560 --> 00:23:00,879 Speaker 3: me raising taxes, and then when you're asked whether or 428 00:23:00,880 --> 00:23:03,160 Speaker 3: not you're raise taxes, your answer is I'm not gonna 429 00:23:03,160 --> 00:23:03,800 Speaker 3: commit to anything. 430 00:23:06,200 --> 00:23:08,600 Speaker 1: When I travel around, and I know this has been 431 00:23:08,640 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 1: an issue in New Jersey too, it doesn't matter where 432 00:23:10,640 --> 00:23:13,399 Speaker 1: you're from, a lot of people see men and women's 433 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:17,399 Speaker 1: sports as a clarifying, crystallizing issue. I know it's a 434 00:23:17,400 --> 00:23:21,040 Speaker 1: big point down in Virginia, but a lot of moms 435 00:23:21,040 --> 00:23:23,439 Speaker 1: and dads in New Jersey are fed up with the 436 00:23:23,480 --> 00:23:27,679 Speaker 1: cultural ridiculousness of the Democrat Party. Do you feel that, 437 00:23:27,920 --> 00:23:32,160 Speaker 1: even having accelerated since you last ran in twenty twenty one. 438 00:23:33,119 --> 00:23:36,040 Speaker 3: Parents are very upset about a number of these far 439 00:23:36,160 --> 00:23:41,159 Speaker 3: left liberal policies. Policy fifty seven to fifty six school 440 00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:43,919 Speaker 3: districts keeping secrets from parents. We're gonna stop that on 441 00:23:44,000 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 3: day one. Our children are best off when our school 442 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:51,600 Speaker 3: districts and parents work in partnership. Biological boys playing in girls' sports. 443 00:23:51,880 --> 00:23:54,159 Speaker 3: That's one of those any twenty issues in New Jersey, 444 00:23:54,400 --> 00:23:56,800 Speaker 3: more than eight out of ten people don't agree with that. 445 00:23:57,359 --> 00:24:00,800 Speaker 3: And so these are the policies the lgbtque curriculum in 446 00:24:00,840 --> 00:24:03,879 Speaker 3: our public schools. My opponent has said she will not 447 00:24:04,040 --> 00:24:08,160 Speaker 3: let parents opt their kids out of that lesson. I mean, 448 00:24:08,280 --> 00:24:11,280 Speaker 3: these are eighty twenty issues. But again, she's not from 449 00:24:11,280 --> 00:24:14,720 Speaker 3: New Jersey. She's out of touch, she's toned, deaf. It's 450 00:24:14,800 --> 00:24:16,360 Speaker 3: just another reason why we're going to win this race. 451 00:24:16,520 --> 00:24:19,280 Speaker 2: Now, what is to the degree you can speak to this? 452 00:24:19,320 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 2: I know you got a big state, millions and millions 453 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:24,880 Speaker 2: of residents, but some of the what's the profile would 454 00:24:24,920 --> 00:24:28,879 Speaker 2: you say of the late breaking voter at this point? 455 00:24:29,080 --> 00:24:32,359 Speaker 2: Is it independents that are going to be the difference maker? 456 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,520 Speaker 2: Is it Democrats defecting from the high taxes and some 457 00:24:35,600 --> 00:24:38,840 Speaker 2: of the other policy matters we've talked about it. Who's 458 00:24:38,880 --> 00:24:41,520 Speaker 2: going to be the deciding cohort in your home state? 459 00:24:41,880 --> 00:24:43,760 Speaker 2: If in fact we're able to see you get across 460 00:24:43,760 --> 00:24:44,639 Speaker 2: the finish line with a. 461 00:24:44,760 --> 00:24:50,120 Speaker 3: W for sure, moderate Democrats and unaffiliated slash independent voters 462 00:24:50,400 --> 00:24:52,840 Speaker 3: the ones that are still undecided, and I really do 463 00:24:52,960 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 3: believe that after eight years of Phil Murphy's policies and 464 00:24:56,200 --> 00:24:59,280 Speaker 3: us going around the state the way we do, offering specific, 465 00:25:00,000 --> 00:25:03,399 Speaker 3: re sponsible, thoughtful proposals on how to fix New Jersey, 466 00:25:03,560 --> 00:25:05,080 Speaker 3: at the end of the day, we're gonna win this race. 467 00:25:06,040 --> 00:25:08,439 Speaker 1: Are you Here's the final question for you, Jack. This 468 00:25:08,560 --> 00:25:10,560 Speaker 1: is important and you may want to dodge it. Are 469 00:25:10,640 --> 00:25:14,440 Speaker 1: you a Yankees Mets guy? Are you a Jets Giants guy? 470 00:25:14,600 --> 00:25:16,920 Speaker 1: Who are your teams? Because I know there are a 471 00:25:16,920 --> 00:25:18,760 Speaker 1: lot of people out there and the Ryder Cup's going on. 472 00:25:18,840 --> 00:25:20,919 Speaker 1: I even said to my team, I'm a little bit 473 00:25:20,960 --> 00:25:23,840 Speaker 1: surprised he's not there with the President right now rooting 474 00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:25,879 Speaker 1: on Team USA, because I bet there's a lot of 475 00:25:25,920 --> 00:25:28,879 Speaker 1: New Jersey guys and gals that are out at the 476 00:25:28,880 --> 00:25:30,200 Speaker 1: golf course right now as well. 477 00:25:31,080 --> 00:25:33,639 Speaker 3: Well. I'm a Yankees guy, and they frustrate us a 478 00:25:33,680 --> 00:25:36,399 Speaker 3: whole lot over the summer. But this Veterans team is 479 00:25:36,520 --> 00:25:39,080 Speaker 3: rising to the occasion when it counts most. And here 480 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:40,800 Speaker 3: we are with only three games left and they're tied 481 00:25:40,840 --> 00:25:41,320 Speaker 3: for first. 482 00:25:41,720 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 2: Go. 483 00:25:42,000 --> 00:25:46,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, there you go, Governor. I hope good luck. We're 484 00:25:46,680 --> 00:25:49,080 Speaker 1: gonna help put you in the governor's office. If everybody 485 00:25:49,080 --> 00:25:51,840 Speaker 1: out there listening right now, gets their votes in and 486 00:25:51,920 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 1: works as hard as they can for you. One last 487 00:25:54,080 --> 00:25:56,359 Speaker 1: time here as you go to break, where should people 488 00:25:56,440 --> 00:25:58,080 Speaker 1: go if they want to offer you support? 489 00:25:59,400 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 3: Jack dot com and that's the number four JACKFOURANJ dot com. 490 00:26:03,560 --> 00:26:04,600 Speaker 3: I greatly appreciate that. 491 00:26:05,080 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: Good luck, sir. That is Jack chare JACKIEB. We need 492 00:26:10,640 --> 00:26:13,199 Speaker 1: to do every day and we're happy to have you 493 00:26:13,240 --> 00:26:16,000 Speaker 1: on anytime down the stretch run here we can help out. 494 00:26:16,040 --> 00:26:18,239 Speaker 1: But again, everybody check that out. Get your votes in. 495 00:26:18,280 --> 00:26:21,240 Speaker 1: New Jersey is in play and Jack Chiarelli needs to 496 00:26:21,280 --> 00:26:23,360 Speaker 1: get the win for all of you. 497 00:26:23,359 --> 00:26:28,000 Speaker 5: You're listening to a special Clay and Buck Deep Dive podcast. 498 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:32,760 Speaker 1: Welcome back in Clay Travis Buck Sexton Show. We are 499 00:26:32,920 --> 00:26:37,760 Speaker 1: joined now by Congressman Tim Burchett of the Great State 500 00:26:37,920 --> 00:26:41,520 Speaker 1: of Tennessee. Government is shut down. We're gonna get into that. 501 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,880 Speaker 1: But Congressman, you wanted to come on because you're as 502 00:26:44,920 --> 00:26:47,600 Speaker 1: fired up as Buck and I were about the amount 503 00:26:47,640 --> 00:26:52,160 Speaker 1: of stock trading that some of your colleagues are engaged in, 504 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:56,080 Speaker 1: and not just stock trading, some of the best timing 505 00:26:56,160 --> 00:26:58,679 Speaker 1: that has ever existed in the history of the world. 506 00:26:58,800 --> 00:27:04,000 Speaker 1: I mean Nancy Pelosi is Warren Buffett level investing savants. 507 00:27:04,560 --> 00:27:09,600 Speaker 1: Isn't this just even if it's not actually improper, it 508 00:27:09,880 --> 00:27:14,920 Speaker 1: certainly has the appearance of impropriety, which I think demeans 509 00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:19,400 Speaker 1: the overall value of trust in public servants. I think 510 00:27:19,440 --> 00:27:22,239 Speaker 1: you probably agree. It's kind of crazy, isn't it. 511 00:27:23,320 --> 00:27:25,119 Speaker 5: I agree with one hundred percent, and thank you so 512 00:27:25,200 --> 00:27:27,200 Speaker 5: much for letting me come on with you. It's an honor. 513 00:27:27,760 --> 00:27:31,520 Speaker 5: Congress is broke, and it is crooked as a dog's leg. Brother. 514 00:27:32,040 --> 00:27:36,440 Speaker 5: There's no other explanation when a congressman can make six 515 00:27:36,520 --> 00:27:41,240 Speaker 5: hundred percent return on their investment, and you know, and 516 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,080 Speaker 5: day in and day out, or three hundred or two 517 00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:47,960 Speaker 5: hundred or whatever. I mean, just go on the Unusual 518 00:27:48,040 --> 00:27:52,320 Speaker 5: Wales website and read the top hundred. It's unbelievable. It 519 00:27:52,400 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 5: is unfreaking believable. I mean, people are making a living 520 00:27:55,160 --> 00:27:59,880 Speaker 5: now of just following Nancy Pelosi's stock trades. Yeah, Horton Buffett, 521 00:28:00,440 --> 00:28:04,080 Speaker 5: Warren Buffett needs to go to the front porch and 522 00:28:04,119 --> 00:28:06,320 Speaker 5: sit there and play with his grandkids or something and 523 00:28:06,400 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 5: just turn it over to Pelosi. It is unbelievable. And 524 00:28:10,280 --> 00:28:13,320 Speaker 5: we can't even get the bill in committee, neither party. 525 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:18,600 Speaker 5: They're gutless. They are gutless, and it is shady as 526 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,119 Speaker 5: all get out. And I have a I had a 527 00:28:22,160 --> 00:28:26,880 Speaker 5: twelve thousand dollars portfolio, my buddy Tommy Siler managed. Everybody 528 00:28:26,960 --> 00:28:30,440 Speaker 5: needs a dad gum mutual fund, and that's what we 529 00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:32,560 Speaker 5: ought to do. And I get sick and tired of 530 00:28:32,600 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 5: hearing people in Congress say, oh, I'm sacrificing so much, 531 00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:40,640 Speaker 5: Well that gumt go home and let somebody else do it. 532 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:44,960 Speaker 5: That's not sacrificing so much. America is tired of this garbage. 533 00:28:45,360 --> 00:28:48,600 Speaker 5: It is broke. You've called it out. We've called it out. 534 00:28:48,840 --> 00:28:51,320 Speaker 5: And here's what's going to happen if we do get 535 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:55,200 Speaker 5: this bill before and Luna has represent Annapoline Aluna, she's 536 00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:57,800 Speaker 5: going to try to if we don't get this bill 537 00:28:57,840 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: out that everybody's been working on, which is a little 538 00:29:00,880 --> 00:29:03,080 Speaker 5: too big and a little too beautiful in my opinion, 539 00:29:04,240 --> 00:29:06,800 Speaker 5: but still she's going to take my bill, which is 540 00:29:06,800 --> 00:29:10,280 Speaker 5: a clean bill. It just says no stock trading, you know, 541 00:29:10,400 --> 00:29:13,360 Speaker 5: for members of Congress unless it's a mutual fund and 542 00:29:13,480 --> 00:29:18,760 Speaker 5: your siblings and your wife and spouse whatever, and that's it. 543 00:29:19,200 --> 00:29:23,240 Speaker 5: That should be it, you know, make the dad gum sacrifice. 544 00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 5: It's crazy. You know, I make skateboards and I'm sixty 545 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:29,800 Speaker 5: one years old and I haven't broke my neck yet. 546 00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 5: I made one for Tulca Gabbard a couple of weeks 547 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,040 Speaker 5: ago and she loved it. But yeah, I always tell 548 00:29:35,040 --> 00:29:37,560 Speaker 5: people that when I work on these skateboards, it's cheaper 549 00:29:37,560 --> 00:29:40,320 Speaker 5: than a psychiatrist. It's good therapy for me. But people 550 00:29:40,360 --> 00:29:42,960 Speaker 5: want to buy them, so I'm trying to sell them. 551 00:29:43,240 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 5: I went to the ethics people and I literally have 552 00:29:46,120 --> 00:29:49,600 Speaker 5: to get I'm getting a business plan together. I've had 553 00:29:49,640 --> 00:29:52,440 Speaker 5: to hire an attorney if I want to sell skateboards. 554 00:29:52,640 --> 00:29:55,080 Speaker 5: But dad gummut, if I want to do insider trading, 555 00:29:55,480 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 5: just become a member of Congress, and it rains on you. 556 00:29:59,400 --> 00:30:01,720 Speaker 1: It is why. And you know I was going off 557 00:30:01,720 --> 00:30:06,920 Speaker 1: on this congressman because my thing is I now have resources. 558 00:30:06,960 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: I've been in a position where I had nothing and 559 00:30:09,560 --> 00:30:10,920 Speaker 1: actually owed a lot more money. 560 00:30:11,000 --> 00:30:11,920 Speaker 5: Go to law school. 561 00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:13,960 Speaker 1: It's not cheap. I owed a lot more money than 562 00:30:14,000 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 1: I had assets for a while. But just doing what 563 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:21,520 Speaker 1: you're saying is actually really good advice by S and 564 00:30:21,520 --> 00:30:25,280 Speaker 1: P five hundred Index funds by big groups of stocks. 565 00:30:25,960 --> 00:30:29,480 Speaker 1: We're not even saying, certainly that members of Congress can't 566 00:30:29,520 --> 00:30:35,080 Speaker 1: own stocks. It's just don't trade individual stocks like this 567 00:30:35,160 --> 00:30:38,040 Speaker 1: is having a blind trust and just having a large 568 00:30:38,040 --> 00:30:41,760 Speaker 1: basket of mutual funds or index funds is actually really 569 00:30:41,800 --> 00:30:45,600 Speaker 1: smart advice for anyone out there listening to us right now. 570 00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,239 Speaker 1: And it's crazy to me that, first of all, your 571 00:30:49,320 --> 00:30:52,240 Speaker 1: job should be pretty busy, the idea that you should 572 00:30:52,240 --> 00:30:56,000 Speaker 1: be pulling out your phone and doing individual stock trades anyway, 573 00:30:56,440 --> 00:30:58,920 Speaker 1: it feels it just feels bonkers to me that this 574 00:30:58,960 --> 00:30:59,440 Speaker 1: is going on. 575 00:31:00,440 --> 00:31:02,880 Speaker 5: Well, some of them do hundreds of hundreds, I know, 576 00:31:03,200 --> 00:31:05,640 Speaker 5: trades in a year. And can I give you one 577 00:31:05,640 --> 00:31:09,520 Speaker 5: example that everybody can follow and can understand. During the 578 00:31:09,880 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 5: Biden reign of terror, when he decided to give our 579 00:31:13,960 --> 00:31:17,640 Speaker 5: missile defense system to Ukraine, which I don't vote for 580 00:31:17,640 --> 00:31:19,840 Speaker 5: any more any I haven't vote for any dollars for Ukraine. 581 00:31:19,880 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 5: I'm sick of that. But anyway, that's another story. Well, 582 00:31:23,240 --> 00:31:26,520 Speaker 5: it turns out that members of some of our military 583 00:31:26,520 --> 00:31:31,120 Speaker 5: committees that had access to that information had bought stock 584 00:31:31,680 --> 00:31:35,800 Speaker 5: and guess what the missile defense companies over just some 585 00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:37,760 Speaker 5: of them a couple of weeks prior to it. Now, 586 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,440 Speaker 5: why do you say, what does that mean? Well, we 587 00:31:40,560 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 5: had to replenish ours in a no bid, multi billion 588 00:31:44,880 --> 00:31:49,600 Speaker 5: dollar contract with these companies overnight, so you see their 589 00:31:49,680 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 5: stock prices would go up dramatically. And yet that's common 590 00:31:55,080 --> 00:31:58,000 Speaker 5: practice in Congress. They can watch the trends. You're in 591 00:31:58,080 --> 00:32:01,120 Speaker 5: the meetings. You know, you hear out COVID, You hear 592 00:32:01,200 --> 00:32:03,880 Speaker 5: I was in the meeting, you heard about COVID, and 593 00:32:03,960 --> 00:32:06,560 Speaker 5: I remembered I had I had bought Denny Stock, and 594 00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:09,600 Speaker 5: all the left accused me of some kind of insider trading. 595 00:32:09,880 --> 00:32:12,560 Speaker 5: I left the DAD meeting because the Democrats wouldn't let 596 00:32:12,560 --> 00:32:14,680 Speaker 5: any of the They had all their staff members in 597 00:32:14,720 --> 00:32:18,480 Speaker 5: the seats and we couldn't get any seats. But anyway, 598 00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:23,560 Speaker 5: I have I've just come to the conclusion that we've 599 00:32:23,600 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 5: got too much information and generally the vast majority of 600 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:31,000 Speaker 5: the people up there probably aren't doing something incredibly shady. 601 00:32:31,560 --> 00:32:34,520 Speaker 5: But we know that this time in and time out, 602 00:32:34,560 --> 00:32:37,720 Speaker 5: when they just seem to just defy all logic, every 603 00:32:37,960 --> 00:32:43,840 Speaker 5: odd and the odds of trading, and every month they 604 00:32:43,880 --> 00:32:47,280 Speaker 5: turn in these huge gains, and it's just baffling to 605 00:32:47,280 --> 00:32:49,080 Speaker 5: me that we allow that to go on, and we 606 00:32:49,120 --> 00:32:51,640 Speaker 5: could sit here and tell the American public that nothing's 607 00:32:51,680 --> 00:32:52,120 Speaker 5: going on. 608 00:32:54,080 --> 00:32:57,160 Speaker 1: How does this shutdown end up ending? Congressman? Like, where 609 00:32:57,160 --> 00:32:58,040 Speaker 1: does it go from here? 610 00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:04,080 Speaker 5: When Schumer sees his polling numbers declining, I think what's 611 00:33:04,120 --> 00:33:07,440 Speaker 5: really behind it? And this is my theory. I've put 612 00:33:07,440 --> 00:33:11,040 Speaker 5: it on people, and they've agreed with me. Schumer is 613 00:33:11,080 --> 00:33:13,720 Speaker 5: looking in his rear view mirror right now, and all 614 00:33:13,720 --> 00:33:16,040 Speaker 5: he sees is a AOC and that big grint on 615 00:33:16,160 --> 00:33:19,880 Speaker 5: hers bearing down on him. He knows that she can 616 00:33:20,000 --> 00:33:24,080 Speaker 5: raise millions of dollars overnight. Just that was me snapping 617 00:33:24,120 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 5: my fingers overnight, Hollywood. All the elitists, they'll be throwing 618 00:33:28,960 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 5: the money at her. And all he's doing is watching 619 00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,640 Speaker 5: that New York mayor's race, where literally a Marxist communist 620 00:33:36,800 --> 00:33:42,480 Speaker 5: will win, probably unless something less. God Shine's favor upon 621 00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:46,080 Speaker 5: the poor folks in New York that don't know any better. 622 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:48,920 Speaker 1: By the way, God shining favor on the poor folks 623 00:33:48,920 --> 00:33:52,360 Speaker 1: of New York actually means Andrew Cuomo should win. That's 624 00:33:52,360 --> 00:33:53,959 Speaker 1: how bad of a situation they're in. 625 00:33:54,800 --> 00:33:59,520 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, Well that's you're very accurate. You're very accurate. 626 00:34:01,280 --> 00:34:04,640 Speaker 5: But the truth is is that Schumer is watching his 627 00:34:04,760 --> 00:34:08,480 Speaker 5: review mirror. He knows his polling numbers, and the reality 628 00:34:08,520 --> 00:34:11,480 Speaker 5: is he needs to go back to flipping raw cheeseburgers 629 00:34:11,520 --> 00:34:15,480 Speaker 5: on his grill and playing with his grandkids if he 630 00:34:15,560 --> 00:34:19,240 Speaker 5: has any, and get out of this thing he has left. 631 00:34:19,680 --> 00:34:22,279 Speaker 5: You know, he wasn't a moderate, but he was just 632 00:34:22,360 --> 00:34:25,919 Speaker 5: an old classic liberal and now he's just turned far 633 00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,400 Speaker 5: left as you can get. And all it is is 634 00:34:28,440 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 5: about staying in power. And that's what Washington, DC is 635 00:34:31,680 --> 00:34:36,080 Speaker 5: truly about. In leadership. They love the suburbans, they love 636 00:34:36,640 --> 00:34:40,040 Speaker 5: the you know, far deep with security, they love the spotlight, 637 00:34:40,120 --> 00:34:43,200 Speaker 5: they love never standing in line. They love the security. 638 00:34:43,440 --> 00:34:46,759 Speaker 5: They love the access and yes, the access to the 639 00:34:47,040 --> 00:34:51,360 Speaker 5: inside information. And when they're out of leadership, it's gone. 640 00:34:51,560 --> 00:34:54,719 Speaker 5: It's gone. All that is gone and they can't stand it. 641 00:34:55,080 --> 00:34:58,080 Speaker 5: And his time has come and gone, like a whole 642 00:34:58,120 --> 00:35:00,080 Speaker 5: lot of them that need to be out of there, 643 00:35:00,280 --> 00:35:02,239 Speaker 5: but he is. That is why he's going to wreck 644 00:35:02,280 --> 00:35:05,880 Speaker 5: this country. It's just to keep himself in power. And Hakem, 645 00:35:06,520 --> 00:35:09,479 Speaker 5: you know, he's out there talking about something nobody's paying 646 00:35:09,520 --> 00:35:12,600 Speaker 5: attention to him. He's saying how the House, Republicans are 647 00:35:12,640 --> 00:35:14,839 Speaker 5: shutting government down. We voted to keep the Dad game 648 00:35:14,960 --> 00:35:20,239 Speaker 5: government open. Only one Democrat voted with us. And you know, 649 00:35:20,840 --> 00:35:24,920 Speaker 5: the whole thing is just it's so obvious. And as 650 00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:27,560 Speaker 5: soon as his polling data flips on him, he'll be 651 00:35:27,640 --> 00:35:30,040 Speaker 5: at the table with Trump. But he won't be till then. 652 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:33,440 Speaker 1: We're talking to Congressman Tim Burchett at Tennessee. How did 653 00:35:33,480 --> 00:35:36,799 Speaker 1: you get into skateboarding and making skateboards? 654 00:35:37,239 --> 00:35:41,560 Speaker 5: Well, I didn't smoke pot and I didn't drink, although 655 00:35:42,120 --> 00:35:45,360 Speaker 5: since I've become a member of Congress, I've fiercely considered 656 00:35:45,400 --> 00:35:47,880 Speaker 5: taking on crack cocaine just to take off the edges. 657 00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,680 Speaker 5: But but no, I just always liked it. I like 658 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,480 Speaker 5: I like the physics of it. And and I'm an inventor. 659 00:35:55,000 --> 00:35:57,719 Speaker 5: I've always just make stuff. And I had a little 660 00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:59,879 Speaker 5: piece of plywood and some old skates and I put 661 00:35:59,880 --> 00:36:02,839 Speaker 5: it on there and I would just and you could 662 00:36:03,480 --> 00:36:07,160 Speaker 5: those are death traps, you know, And I never and 663 00:36:07,440 --> 00:36:09,640 Speaker 5: you know, my dad would challenge me, if you can 664 00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,840 Speaker 5: get to the end, to see if you get to 665 00:36:10,880 --> 00:36:12,920 Speaker 5: the end of the driveway or something, and you know, 666 00:36:13,000 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 5: eventually I would and then and so I and I'm 667 00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:21,800 Speaker 5: just I've always been fascinated by bamboo. It's poor man's 668 00:36:21,840 --> 00:36:25,280 Speaker 5: carbon fiber. I read an article on it in nineteen 669 00:36:25,440 --> 00:36:29,000 Speaker 5: eighty in a National geographic and so I started just 670 00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:33,879 Speaker 5: I've always done stuff and tinkered, and now that I've 671 00:36:33,920 --> 00:36:35,960 Speaker 5: got some equipment to do it. And my major was 672 00:36:36,000 --> 00:36:40,120 Speaker 5: technological adult Education, certified to teach shop. Basically, I can 673 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:44,319 Speaker 5: weld and build engines, and I can burn your house 674 00:36:44,360 --> 00:36:45,719 Speaker 5: down if you want me to go wired. I'm not 675 00:36:45,840 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 5: very good at that, but I can do all those things. 676 00:36:49,239 --> 00:36:52,040 Speaker 5: I can do casting and just all the stuff around 677 00:36:52,040 --> 00:36:55,600 Speaker 5: the machine shop. But I just like it. And then 678 00:36:55,840 --> 00:36:58,319 Speaker 5: I'm a capitalist at heart. And I read somewhere that 679 00:36:58,480 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 5: there's a I think it's a five billion dollar industry 680 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:05,200 Speaker 5: in this country. Now I don't want all five billion 681 00:37:05,280 --> 00:37:07,560 Speaker 5: of it, but I wouldn't mind shaving a little off 682 00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:10,359 Speaker 5: the edge. And so, you know, I make it out 683 00:37:10,360 --> 00:37:13,600 Speaker 5: of recycled stuff, mainly because I'm cheap. I guess I'm 684 00:37:13,600 --> 00:37:16,800 Speaker 5: fiscally smart, but you know, I use old palettes and 685 00:37:17,320 --> 00:37:20,200 Speaker 5: I've been using banana fibers off of banana plants that 686 00:37:20,239 --> 00:37:25,359 Speaker 5: I've grown, and I'm just just all over about it. 687 00:37:25,400 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 5: I just and and skateboards something you can make small 688 00:37:29,880 --> 00:37:33,200 Speaker 5: and you can transport easily, and kids dig it. And 689 00:37:33,200 --> 00:37:35,120 Speaker 5: when you see a sixty one year old out there 690 00:37:35,239 --> 00:37:39,279 Speaker 5: with his vans on skateboarding on a board that he 691 00:37:39,320 --> 00:37:41,960 Speaker 5: built himself, it's kind of cool and it's good to 692 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,480 Speaker 5: bring up conversation. And you know, and I like it. 693 00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:48,120 Speaker 5: And again, as I say, it's cheaper than a psychiatrist. 694 00:37:48,840 --> 00:37:51,960 Speaker 1: We're talking to Congressman Tim Burchett of Tennessee. All Right, 695 00:37:52,000 --> 00:37:54,880 Speaker 1: I got the ultimate controversial question for you here to 696 00:37:54,920 --> 00:38:00,839 Speaker 1: close up the interview, Congressman, all Right, better decision, who 697 00:38:00,880 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: made the better decision? Who made the worst decision? I 698 00:38:04,000 --> 00:38:06,680 Speaker 1: know you are a big University of Tennessee football fan. 699 00:38:07,840 --> 00:38:14,239 Speaker 1: Nico going to UCLA transferring from Tennessee going to UCLA. 700 00:38:14,400 --> 00:38:18,160 Speaker 1: UCLA is now lost every game. His head coach has 701 00:38:18,200 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: been fired, his offensive coordinator has been fired. Sorry UCLA 702 00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:25,760 Speaker 1: fans out there catching astray. You didn't expect this. Okay, 703 00:38:26,640 --> 00:38:31,560 Speaker 1: Nico to UCLA. That choice or Kamala Harris picking Tim 704 00:38:31,640 --> 00:38:35,640 Speaker 1: Walls as her vice president. Who made the worst decision? 705 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:38,920 Speaker 1: Who made the better decision? You're on the floor. 706 00:38:41,440 --> 00:38:47,920 Speaker 5: I'm gonna say Kamala because she was a train wreck anyway, 707 00:38:48,600 --> 00:38:50,920 Speaker 5: and she just picked a bigger train wreck. I almost. 708 00:38:51,600 --> 00:38:54,880 Speaker 5: You know, they always pick somebody who always still like 709 00:38:54,960 --> 00:38:58,240 Speaker 5: somebody that's not going to overshadow him a lot of times. 710 00:38:59,280 --> 00:39:02,760 Speaker 5: But I JD Vance, as we say, and he's Tennessee. 711 00:39:02,800 --> 00:39:07,600 Speaker 5: He kicks a mass I like JD. He's strong, and 712 00:39:07,640 --> 00:39:12,759 Speaker 5: he's kind of a buddy of mine, I guess. But yeah, 713 00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,680 Speaker 5: that gum when they call him tampon tim or something, 714 00:39:16,680 --> 00:39:18,759 Speaker 5: I don't like saying it, but he is just a 715 00:39:19,800 --> 00:39:21,960 Speaker 5: He's a knucklehead man. He just can't get out of 716 00:39:21,960 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 5: his own way. I don't know who he was running 717 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:27,200 Speaker 5: against to get elected governor out there, but that gum 718 00:39:27,600 --> 00:39:29,560 Speaker 5: must have been a convicted fell and getting ready to 719 00:39:29,560 --> 00:39:31,439 Speaker 5: go to the electric chair or something. I'm not sure 720 00:39:31,520 --> 00:39:36,200 Speaker 5: the Republicans put up against him, But yeah, Nico, I mean, 721 00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 5: he just took some mad advice. But he's he'll get 722 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:40,719 Speaker 5: a little bit of a paycheck and if he's he 723 00:39:40,760 --> 00:39:44,439 Speaker 5: can just get all his groupies and family away from him, 724 00:39:44,680 --> 00:39:46,800 Speaker 5: he might be okay. He might be able to salvage 725 00:39:46,800 --> 00:39:50,799 Speaker 5: something in the Canadian Football League. But yeah, that's where 726 00:39:50,800 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 5: I'm at. Before I get myself in any more trouble. 727 00:39:53,120 --> 00:39:55,239 Speaker 1: Well, I've already taken. The headline for the New York 728 00:39:55,280 --> 00:39:58,440 Speaker 1: Times is going to be Tennessee Congressman Tim Burchett praises 729 00:39:58,560 --> 00:40:02,880 Speaker 1: Nico for his movie to UCLA. Hey, this is this 730 00:40:02,960 --> 00:40:06,279 Speaker 1: is a lot of fun, and I would argue I 731 00:40:06,320 --> 00:40:08,279 Speaker 1: love the Tim Walls. You may have seen the meme 732 00:40:08,360 --> 00:40:12,160 Speaker 1: Congressman where it shows Barack Obama and he says I 733 00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: need someone dumber than me, as VP Joe Biden. Joe 734 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: Biden says I need someone dumber than me, as VP 735 00:40:20,200 --> 00:40:23,880 Speaker 1: Kamala Harris. Kamala Harris says I need someone dumber than me, 736 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:26,600 Speaker 1: and it's Tim Walls. There's a lot of truth to that, 737 00:40:26,719 --> 00:40:30,280 Speaker 1: and we have seen a rapid descent and intelligence across 738 00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,600 Speaker 1: the board there. We appreciate the time. If people want 739 00:40:33,640 --> 00:40:35,960 Speaker 1: to get the skateboard, by the way, where do they go? 740 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:40,719 Speaker 5: Well, nowhere yet I'm okay, I got a business plan. 741 00:40:40,800 --> 00:40:45,440 Speaker 5: I got to put it on ethics and so they 742 00:40:45,440 --> 00:40:46,560 Speaker 5: can approve it or not. 743 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: Hey, if Hunter can sell paintings for five hundred thousand dollars, 744 00:40:51,040 --> 00:40:53,320 Speaker 1: I would think you could probably sell a skateboard for 745 00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:54,520 Speaker 1: a couple of hundred bucks. 746 00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:57,600 Speaker 5: But what do I know, Well, the Biden family couldn't 747 00:40:57,640 --> 00:41:02,000 Speaker 5: spell ethics, so I got it. I just want to 748 00:41:02,040 --> 00:41:05,080 Speaker 5: be the man my little girl. Thanks, I am so. 749 00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:07,759 Speaker 5: I'm most trying to follow the worlds here. I get 750 00:41:07,760 --> 00:41:10,520 Speaker 5: my lawyers involved and we'll get it all worked out eventually. 751 00:41:10,960 --> 00:41:12,960 Speaker 5: Hope talks the end of the year, hopefully in time 752 00:41:12,960 --> 00:41:13,839 Speaker 5: for Christmas. 753 00:41:14,400 --> 00:41:16,319 Speaker 1: That's the goal, just in time for Christmas. Hey, we 754 00:41:16,360 --> 00:41:19,000 Speaker 1: appreciate the time. Go big Orange and we'll talk to 755 00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:19,600 Speaker 1: you again soon. 756 00:41:20,480 --> 00:41:22,040 Speaker 5: Thank you, brother, appreciate y'all. 757 00:41:22,440 --> 00:41:24,719 Speaker 1: Man, he is great. The next time you don't join 758 00:41:24,760 --> 00:41:27,800 Speaker 1: a conversation because you just don't know enough about the topic, 759 00:41:28,320 --> 00:41:32,120 Speaker 1: listen to a klan Buck deep dive. It's boot camp 760 00:41:32,160 --> 00:41:35,880 Speaker 1: for the brain on any given subject. Find deep dives 761 00:41:36,000 --> 00:41:39,399 Speaker 1: in the klaan Buck podcast feed, on the iHeartRadio app, 762 00:41:39,520 --> 00:41:41,760 Speaker 1: or wherever you get your podcasts.