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Speaker 1: That is the voice by the way of our guest
Speaker 1: this week, West Reynolds. For those on the megapod uh
Speaker 1: feed who listened into the show for years and years,
Speaker 1: West has never been on here before, which is clearly
Speaker 1: an oversight on my part. West is the co host
Speaker 1: of long Shots, the greatest golf betting show there ever
Speaker 1: was with Brady Cannon and Matt Humans at Visa. But
Speaker 1: West is far more than just the co host of
Speaker 1: long Shots. West Reynolds can co host any show about
Speaker 1: any subject. We're just talking about f one off air.
Speaker 1: West is like, yeah, I know about that too, and
Speaker 1: know it's about everything about anything, pop culture, everything, culture, wrestling, Yes, UFC, boxing, everything,
Speaker 1: West Reynolds, you think we're going to have a big
Speaker 1: crowd here for this UFC this weekend? West, you think that?
Speaker 1: I think so. I look, I watched the fights the
Speaker 1: I think it's McGregor and Plourier in the warehouse up
Speaker 1: that circle on the third floor, by the way, great
Speaker 1: place to go watch the fights if you if you're
Speaker 1: not in the arena at t Mobile, arguably one of
Speaker 1: the best places in town. Had a great time up there. West.
Speaker 1: Thank you for doing this for the first time. It's
Speaker 1: an honor that you're here. And what's your favorite air
Speaker 1: Supply song? Just to prove a point, okay, the one
Speaker 1: that you love West? What do you go? Ahead? Todd,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry, how do you feel about Repenzia timm Assura
Speaker 1: scoring in the second half at home against Dinamo Bucharest
Speaker 1: and the Romanian come of course he asked the question
Speaker 1: that would tripped me off because I am not following that.
Speaker 1: Let's go back to air supply. It's a dead heat
Speaker 1: between even the nights are better, and you know I
Speaker 1: got to include that one. Did you hear Paul Howard's
Speaker 1: take this morning that Green Day is the second most
Speaker 1: over did band of all time? Who's the first? Most?
Speaker 1: You too interesting? And there's a lot of people that
Speaker 1: have that take. I don't know that I disagree by
Speaker 1: the way the other voices, of course, Todd wished it
Speaker 1: from his Bomb's Cork Addict in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, on the
Speaker 1: Big screen and Mike Palm, Ladies and gentlemen, the vice
Speaker 1: president of Operations. I've got against Dnamu in my fanal
Speaker 1: uh little table. Are you betting team totals? Yes, I've
Speaker 1: got Repenzia under a half and I'm re rolling now
Speaker 1: because I'm on both sides. Todd's betting soccer, betting tennis
Speaker 1: currently and we're gonna do the megapod And as always,
Speaker 1: we start Mike with the Circa Millions and Circus Survivor update.
Speaker 1: What do you and the millions? We have twelve people
Speaker 1: ten and oh. After two weeks one person oh and ten,
Speaker 1: So it's it's you know, out of four thousand entries,
Speaker 1: only twelve or ten and only one is in ten,
Speaker 1: So that's it's and millions more people didn't put in
Speaker 1: the thirty one didn't put their entry in the millions,
Speaker 1: which disqualifies them from the quarterly and overall Booby Prize.
Speaker 1: They could still win other quarters and Circa Circus Survivor.
Speaker 1: The not entry was knocked out the third most people
Speaker 1: this week. First was the Steelers, then was Seattle. The
Speaker 1: third most came from the non entry. How does it
Speaker 1: go up from week one? Week one? Should be the
Speaker 1: most that didn't get in because people die. People are
Speaker 1: in jail. You know there's a four months sign up,
Speaker 1: but what people do die? People do go to jail.
Speaker 1: The people are passed out on Fremont Street on Saturday night.
Speaker 1: Anything can happened, Yes, anything can happened. Um okay. Well, so,
Speaker 1: by the way, I'm struggling with Survivor this week because
Speaker 1: I don't know whether to go with Carolina tonight or
Speaker 1: Denver on Sunday. We'll get the Survivor here, Todd, do
Speaker 1: you advance last week? Yes? I advanced with the Denver
Speaker 1: Broncos over the Jacksonville Jaguar. You still have both entries left?
Speaker 1: I have to now I only have one. I only
Speaker 1: went into one. I'm currently six and four and millions
Speaker 1: after I had a smooth four and one. Who did
Speaker 1: you use week one and Survivor? I used the l
Speaker 1: A range all right, So Rams and Broncos off of
Speaker 1: todd slist, Bucks and Packers for me, Bucks and Packers off. Okay, okay,
Speaker 1: uh Todd. I hate to ask this question because I
Speaker 1: got whitewashed last week, But what are the as the
Speaker 1: pod stenographer, what were our records last week? On this show. Yes,
Speaker 1: as the pod stenographer. Last week was a rough week
Speaker 1: for young Gilly Ice going oh and three, Uh, he
Speaker 1: moves himself to one in five, although he did get
Speaker 1: very lucky with his teaser going to two and oh
Speaker 1: and teasers. He had New England and the Bengals, and
Speaker 1: the Bengals got a Justin Fields gift thank you for
Speaker 1: the long saving and so he goes to two and
Speaker 1: oh and teasers. Mikey was one and two. There you
Speaker 1: go to move to three and three and he lost
Speaker 1: his teaser. Oh, I go in with the Picksburg Spellers
Speaker 1: who cannot block anyone and therefore the Raiders knocked out
Speaker 1: his teaser. He's not one and one in teasers, and
Speaker 1: I had a stellar two and one to go to
Speaker 1: four and two, also winning my teaser easily. Broncos and
Speaker 1: Pats with my teaser to go to two and a teacher,
Speaker 1: I could tell you we're super excited to go through this.
Speaker 1: How did how did our week two guests? Uh? Two
Speaker 1: guests Drew Dinsick had the Steelers minus six losing, the
Speaker 1: Colts plus three and a half somehow covering and the
Speaker 1: Vikings plus three and a half, also covering He also
Speaker 1: got very lucky with the Bengals Packers teaser. I love
Speaker 1: how you when when other people are involved, you're like
Speaker 1: somehow and got lucky. But with you, it's just easy peacy, right, Todd,
Speaker 1: you're four and you're four and two now sometimes I'm
Speaker 1: three three? Thank Gil is one in five? Is that good?
Speaker 1: My question is is this the latest into the year.
Speaker 1: You've had the lead in the contest both years. I'm
Speaker 1: not worried about teasers. I'm talking about the best bets.
Speaker 1: It's the latest. It's like the it's like the Detroit
Speaker 1: Tigers latest they've been at the first place. We'll see
Speaker 1: what happens. H And also we have an additional member
Speaker 1: of the show. If you're watching a video here, Uh,
Speaker 1: Mike palm cut out, which which is the real awesome thing? Mike,
Speaker 1: you know you're gonna hate me for doing this back,
Speaker 1: but how is it? How is it that they gave
Speaker 1: you the back of this too with the uh you
Speaker 1: didn't you really like what's going on up there? No,
Speaker 1: they could have painted that. I mean, it doesn't have
Speaker 1: to be that life like it could have. Well, of
Speaker 1: us are getting younger. You feel great here, Mike, Thank
Speaker 1: you West, West, and I are going to be on
Speaker 1: both sides of here, all right, Um, so what do
Speaker 1: we do first Thursday night football? We don't have to
Speaker 1: have a pick here. I'm just curious if there are
Speaker 1: any thoughts about this. I have Carolina in multiple teasers
Speaker 1: with Arizona, with Cleveland. I even have one wacky one
Speaker 1: where I have them with like four other teams for
Speaker 1: plus three fifty. But yet I'm I'm terrified about taking
Speaker 1: them in the Survivor, even though I have them in
Speaker 1: teaser legs, which makes no sense, but Survivor tends to
Speaker 1: do weird things to your brain. West. I'm curious if
Speaker 1: you have any takes. I know I talked to you
Speaker 1: about this morning on a numbers game. What is your
Speaker 1: take on the Yeah, this would be a teaser only
Speaker 1: game for me on Carolina, because look, you can get
Speaker 1: it through the three and the seven, so Carolina down
Speaker 1: to two or if at seven and a half, you
Speaker 1: can get it down to one and a half, and
Speaker 1: that'd be the only way I would go here. I
Speaker 1: would be careful laying the points in this spot. And
Speaker 1: I agree with your caution on the Survivor because look,
Speaker 1: you have a Carolina team and when you're a young
Speaker 1: team like them, and I took them overseason wins. I
Speaker 1: do like this team. I like Matt Rule, I like
Speaker 1: Joe Brady. I like this defense. They've been drafting guys
Speaker 1: in the first round pretty much each of the last
Speaker 1: four years, and those guys are finally starting to play
Speaker 1: and produce and come together. This defense is absolutely for real.
Speaker 1: But what worries me on Carolina is you have a
Speaker 1: team that's not used to this spot. You have a
Speaker 1: team that's not used to winning and they're not used
Speaker 1: to success, and you're asking them to lay over a
Speaker 1: touchdown on the road. I know it's Davis Mills. I
Speaker 1: know he was eight of eight team last week with
Speaker 1: a touchdown in an interception in the second half against Cleveland,
Speaker 1: but you do at least give him a couple of
Speaker 1: days of practice with the number one, which he essentially
Speaker 1: did not have for the Cleveland game last week after
Speaker 1: Taylor when Taylor got knocked out. But I'd be a
Speaker 1: little careful laying this spot with Carolina. I think just
Speaker 1: on the math, you probably have to use them in
Speaker 1: a teaser. But this isn't something I'm willing to like.
Speaker 1: Go balls to the wall with so to speak, Does
Speaker 1: anybody differ with it? I think that I feel exactly
Speaker 1: like that. Last week I said you should use the
Speaker 1: football team and survivor, no never in doubt, clear winner,
Speaker 1: wire or wire. And I think you must consider using
Speaker 1: the Panthers tonight as well. I think you have to
Speaker 1: because you cannot use Carol Cardinals, you cannot use Arizone.
Speaker 1: You must save them for Christmas. I think, well, see,
Speaker 1: I don't. I Detroit scares me. You know, Detroit has
Speaker 1: an offensive line they can block you for me, and
Speaker 1: for me, it's Carol will get the survivor. But for
Speaker 1: me it's Carolina versus Denver. That's that's why I don't
Speaker 1: know where else would you use Denver? Denver would get
Speaker 1: my vote now because they're in a very tough vision.
Speaker 1: If you West, let's just say it, at four entries left,
Speaker 1: would you split them between Carolina and Denver? This week?
Speaker 1: I would maybe lean a little bit more toward the Denver,
Speaker 1: So maybe three. And that's what I might do, because
Speaker 1: I think with Denver, you've gotta understand they're gonna have
Speaker 1: a toper schedule and they're gonna have two games of
Speaker 1: Kansas City they're gonna have two games at the Chargers,
Speaker 1: they're gonna have two games with the Raiders, and the
Speaker 1: non conference it gets a little tougher. And even though
Speaker 1: I kind of like the Jets and the Points, I
Speaker 1: would still probably use the Broncos. Yeah, we might as
Speaker 1: well flush out the surpriber talk about as I look
Speaker 1: at the schedule, Carolina and Denver. The only other time
Speaker 1: you can justify using either happens to be the same
Speaker 1: week also, so it's kind of like and by the way,
Speaker 1: it's really late in the season also, and I'm not
Speaker 1: I'm not. I'm trying to expunge last year for my brain,
Speaker 1: where like normal survivors usually only get to like week ten, eleven, twelve,
Speaker 1: So who knows if that will even come into play.
Speaker 1: And Todd, I think you can holler if you hear
Speaker 1: me on this, but Jang Si Si has just broken glatch.
Speaker 1: So that's a big thing for me. That just happened.
Speaker 1: In tennis, you know your girls side, that's your play,
Speaker 1: just like you, Todd got those drive shots. I tried
Speaker 1: to do trick slices and angles and every day. If
Speaker 1: you can't handle the moon ball either, oh trust me,
Speaker 1: I can handle any time you want to come out like,
Speaker 1: I don't even know if you get three points on
Speaker 1: me and again, here we go, here we go, brutal. Alright,
Speaker 1: let's do best. Yeah we did. Thursday. I thought any
Speaker 1: other Thursday, And I thought, Todd, do you have any
Speaker 1: I just wanted to Thursday night, thought a little bit
Speaker 1: on the under maybe because I think the Carolina Panthers
Speaker 1: under Matt rule or rule or whatever he likes his
Speaker 1: name to be pronounced. I like what they're doing. Defensively.
Speaker 1: They were pretty good the first week against the Jets.
Speaker 1: They were outstanding against the Saints. I mean, if you
Speaker 1: look at the drive charts for the Saints, Uh, the
Speaker 1: saints only touchdown came on a gift interception twenty yard drive.
Speaker 1: Other than that, it was three and out, three and out,
Speaker 1: five and out, three and o four and now three
Speaker 1: and it was NonStop, just totally domination of of Jameis
Speaker 1: Winston on the defensive end of the ball. So if
Speaker 1: they can do the same thing against uh Mills, uh,
Speaker 1: you know, Stanford guy, why not? And then uh, you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see I don't see the other you know,
Speaker 1: I don't see their offense under Donald being a you know,
Speaker 1: high flying offense, so you know you could get there
Speaker 1: four to ten, you know something like that. What do
Speaker 1: you think West is the effect of the of the
Speaker 1: Texas not having um the safety read is out and
Speaker 1: then also the linebacker UM. I never say this name
Speaker 1: right with the groogy a Hill. Yeh, I think that
Speaker 1: without tonight. So that's why I would I would lean
Speaker 1: to to use Carolina, you would. I would be the
Speaker 1: survivor about ahead, obscure, guys, do you know their backups?
Speaker 1: You don't know whether they're backups or that are granted
Speaker 1: at the quarterback position, you do. But in the linebacker position.
Speaker 1: This is what I can't stand when talking heads like
Speaker 1: people who run the Nuts Show or something get on
Speaker 1: there and start talking, start talking about, you know, oh,
Speaker 1: the backup linebacker. You know the linebackers out in the
Speaker 1: safeties out? Well, how do you know the backup if
Speaker 1: you actually do know that the backup linebacker is terrible
Speaker 1: in the backup safety terrible and by all means, But
Speaker 1: do you actually know that, Mr Nutts, I don't know it.
Speaker 1: I don't know what Todd Todd. Another question here is
Speaker 1: Matt Rule, your leader in the clubhouse for coach of
Speaker 1: the Year after two weeks. Hmm, that's a good one.
Speaker 1: It's not Sean Payton anymore. No, no, not at all,
Speaker 1: it's not him. All right, let's do some best bets
Speaker 1: West as the guest with your first one. Okay, first
Speaker 1: best bet, We're gonna go with the team that scored
Speaker 1: no points last week. To make that a best bet.
Speaker 1: Let's just let's just put it out there right now.
Speaker 1: I am going to go, and it's for me basically
Speaker 1: mainly in the market. There's some four and a halves
Speaker 1: out there too, because Derek Carr got ruled probable. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the Miami Dolphins against the Las Vegas Raiders.
Speaker 1: They did beat them late in the year last year,
Speaker 1: so I know a payback spot for the Raiders because
Speaker 1: that's what eliminated them from the playoffs. Remember they got
Speaker 1: that personal foul that continued that Miami drive, just like
Speaker 1: as the Raiders are wont to do get a personal
Speaker 1: foul in a key situation. But that was the game. Yes, yeah,
Speaker 1: where Brian Flora is basically subdim in and out. But
Speaker 1: it is gonna be Jacoby Brissette here. But I think
Speaker 1: the market's kind of telling you they don't think that
Speaker 1: there's much of a drop off really between Tuah and
Speaker 1: Jacobi Berset. But if you look at the look aheadline
Speaker 1: on this game, I think it was mainly not with
Speaker 1: the Miami adjustment. I think it was the Raiders adjustment
Speaker 1: because they went in and beat the Pittsburgh Steelers in
Speaker 1: a total dead spot off a short week, expending all
Speaker 1: that energy into your home opener, your first game in
Speaker 1: a new town with fans in the stand, and I
Speaker 1: think the look ahead was like a pick them. And
Speaker 1: now it's adjusted up to four. I think that that's
Speaker 1: a big move. I think the Raiders maybe now kind
Speaker 1: of feeling themselves a little bit. I think defensively, Dave
Speaker 1: still got some issues, especially in the secondary. I think
Speaker 1: that front four has done a very good job getting
Speaker 1: pressure on Lamar Jackson and the opener and then Big
Speaker 1: Ben in the last game. But I like the Dolphins
Speaker 1: here getting four. There are some four and halves out
Speaker 1: there as well. I like it. Do you? By the way,
Speaker 1: teams that have lost by more than thirty in the
Speaker 1: NFL are like over against the following week, which is
Speaker 1: a nice little and that makes sense, right because it's
Speaker 1: a recency bias, the market overreacts. And by the way,
Speaker 1: if you watch that game, you know, I'm not saying
Speaker 1: Miami would have won, but thirty five to nothing was
Speaker 1: about one of the more misleading scores of that week.
Speaker 1: And for those of us who do anything, aren't you guys,
Speaker 1: aren't you guys a little concerned with the fact that
Speaker 1: Miami doesn't look like they can block now matter who's
Speaker 1: playing quarterback. Like the first half of that game, every
Speaker 1: play was like they're getting sacked. It was ridiculous, regardless
Speaker 1: of who was the quarterback. So I love the pick too,
Speaker 1: but I'm so scared of how badly they blocked, well,
Speaker 1: half the offensive lines in the league camp block. I mean,
Speaker 1: I go back to what I think it was Bill
Speaker 1: Polian a few years ago said about the offensive line play.
Speaker 1: It's an epidemic. And I think he's absolutely right. Now.
Speaker 1: He was kind of speaking in the tone of, oh,
Speaker 1: this damn collective bargaining agreement, because he's always management, so
Speaker 1: of course he's gonna take the stand against labor. It's
Speaker 1: like they don't hit in pads enough and and I
Speaker 1: think he's right, But I also think you've got to
Speaker 1: look at the college offenses, that's a different skill set
Speaker 1: than what they do in the NFL. A you know, college,
Speaker 1: the name of the game is run as many plays
Speaker 1: as you can, as fast as you can get a
Speaker 1: guy open in space, and that's it, and just go tempo,
Speaker 1: tempo tempo. In the NFL, the reds are totally different.
Speaker 1: The protections are totally different. So I think you have
Speaker 1: a lot of we were talking about so many teams
Speaker 1: in the summer like that they have bad offensive lines.
Speaker 1: The Bears got a bad offensive line, All these teams, etcetera, etcetera, etcetera.
Speaker 1: Steelers bad offensive line. Even teams that you thought would
Speaker 1: have had good offensive lines like the Indianapolis goals have
Speaker 1: been absolutely terrible. Carson Wentz has been sacked six times
Speaker 1: in two weeks. So the offensive line, it's kind of
Speaker 1: one of those things where it's like, you know, about
Speaker 1: half to maybe two thirds of the team in the
Speaker 1: league aren't set on that old line. There's concerned about
Speaker 1: the performance of Brissette last week though he looked so
Speaker 1: I think he's good, yeah, but he didn't looked like
Speaker 1: you couldn't even move He couldn't even move around. It
Speaker 1: was like a five step drop and just try to
Speaker 1: spray the ball eight yards here. I mean that was
Speaker 1: their whole offense once he hadn't practiced. I mean, you
Speaker 1: have to give him that sort and you go game
Speaker 1: plan specific to because it's going to be probably different
Speaker 1: how they attack the Raiders than they're going to attack
Speaker 1: the Bills. But you're right, he did not look great.
Speaker 1: But they are getting Will Faller back it looks like,
Speaker 1: so he's getting at least some help on that side.
Speaker 1: I think the two Raiders the two biggest points from
Speaker 1: last year, but not not last week out the two
Speaker 1: bags was one of them. Was you know, again, with
Speaker 1: the NFL, more than any other sport, we tend to
Speaker 1: always be results based and we're like, oh, look, yeah
Speaker 1: the Dolphins got smoked. Yeah, well, their starting quarterback got
Speaker 1: knocked out four minutes into the game. Can I prove
Speaker 1: to you that would have gone otherwise? I can't, but
Speaker 1: you know that's a thing. T J. Watt got knocked
Speaker 1: out after the first quarter in the Steelers game. Would
Speaker 1: that game have been different? I will sit here and
Speaker 1: tell you it would have been. I can't prove it
Speaker 1: to you, but but I think it would have been
Speaker 1: the other biggest thing is the last injury reports from
Speaker 1: last week. So on Primetime Action, which I do with
Speaker 1: Matt Brown and Kelly Billin on MSG Plus at Visa,
Speaker 1: we do we take such pride in like, Okay, these
Speaker 1: are the final injury reports. This team is decimated. This
Speaker 1: team is decimated. This team. Every one of those teams,
Speaker 1: they got the worst of the injury report last week
Speaker 1: in the final one. So I'm talking about the Ravens
Speaker 1: and the Vikings and the Niners. I'm forgetting something right
Speaker 1: that just got destroyed. All of those teams ended up covering.
Speaker 1: So I feel like last week was this weird aberration
Speaker 1: where if you waited, if you the prudent thing and
Speaker 1: waited for the final injury repoard, it almost screwed you,
Speaker 1: Whereas if you made your picks earlier, you were better off.
Speaker 1: And I don't think that's a normal thing. I think
Speaker 1: that's just an aberrational thing. But that, to me was
Speaker 1: the biggest betting point of last week, that if you
Speaker 1: played against teams that were decimated. And maybe this plays
Speaker 1: into your point to some degree, Todd, where it's like
Speaker 1: we just assume that if certain players are knocked out,
Speaker 1: it doesn't necessarily mean, it's the drop off that we
Speaker 1: think it is. Maybe, well, that's the thing. If if
Speaker 1: you have like cluster injuries on the offensive line, that's
Speaker 1: then yeah, that can be a thing. But if you've
Speaker 1: got my safeties out and my this guy's out, but
Speaker 1: we don't know who's is the second team guy good?
Speaker 1: Is he not good? I think sometimes it's it's overblown.
Speaker 1: And I was just taking a shot at Mikey because
Speaker 1: I like to take shots on Mikey because he takes
Speaker 1: shots to me. But but the point is, I think
Speaker 1: people sometimes get a little too overblown with that. Now,
Speaker 1: the quarterback position is an entirely different thing, because your
Speaker 1: quarterback is a giant thing. But the the the these
Speaker 1: injury things, I think you have to take them with
Speaker 1: a grain of salt. You really have to be careful.
Speaker 1: First of all, Todd, I asked Wes his opinion about
Speaker 1: the injuries affecting them. I didn't purport to know anything
Speaker 1: about it. I asked a guy that has a deeper
Speaker 1: knowledge of this than I do, Mikey. Mikey, I wasn't
Speaker 1: really attacking attacking people like you, you know, people who
Speaker 1: have shows, like people that have mediocre shows. What's the
Speaker 1: new name of the show. Odds on, odds on everybody,
Speaker 1: odds on. Yeah, I'm not gonna get used to that.
Speaker 1: We have two guests today in an hour show. Yes,
Speaker 1: Cadrea Ismail the Missile Yeah, and then Professor John Clayton,
Speaker 1: also Professor John, Professor John. All Right, we got we
Speaker 1: gotta we gotta move. Alright, Mikey, your first best bet,
Speaker 1: My first best bet is the forty Niners minus three
Speaker 1: on Sunday Night. Second, no, no, no, no, no no,
Speaker 1: I'm not laying three and a half. Todd, don't start
Speaker 1: that bullshit. Are okay? I'm three points. Listen. You just
Speaker 1: cannot underestimate how bad Matt Rule is in Sunshine States.
Speaker 1: I mean, this guy is an absolute disaster. The average
Speaker 1: scores of the five games he's played in Florida and
Speaker 1: in and in California is one to three at halftime.
Speaker 1: He's been blanked in four of the five games. Whatever
Speaker 1: it is, they are never ready to go to California.
Speaker 1: Remember they went and just got an absolute I'm I'm
Speaker 1: talking about the fleur, Yeah, the floor. I mean the
Speaker 1: game against the Chargers where the Chargers like out gained
Speaker 1: them five to one and then they and then and
Speaker 1: then they got beat in the NFC Championship teams. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it is, but this buffoon is this
Speaker 1: terrible when he goes to the side, I mean, why
Speaker 1: did he calls the time out? Let him have a
Speaker 1: practice kick at Lambeau. This guy, I don't understand it.
Speaker 1: I mean, his record is unbelievable, but in every big
Speaker 1: spot he doesn't perform. I mean, and they'll beat up
Speaker 1: on the teams in the Central this year, but I
Speaker 1: don't think they're gonna beat up on the good teams.
Speaker 1: I am thrilled to have them in my rear view
Speaker 1: and survivor haven't used them already. Let's put it that way,
Speaker 1: all right, I laid the three. Let's move alright, Totty
Speaker 1: what he got first? My first pick is gonna be there,
Speaker 1: Cleveland Brownies. The Cleveland Browns minus seven against your Bears. Now,
Speaker 1: I don't care who's playing quarterback for the Bears, because
Speaker 1: the Bears stink. And you know, don't let your your
Speaker 1: your don't get confused by the fact that the Bears
Speaker 1: won a game. Finally, they won the game because Cincinnati
Speaker 1: through fourteen interceptions inside their twenty yard line to give
Speaker 1: them all the points. The Bears were not marching the
Speaker 1: ball up and down the field against the Cincinnati defense.
Speaker 1: That I don't know. Are they average, Are they above
Speaker 1: average or they below? Averages are definitely in the middle,
Speaker 1: somewhere right or somewhere maybe even below average. I didn't
Speaker 1: see anything. I went back and watched the shortcuts on
Speaker 1: direct TV. You know, you get to watch the whole
Speaker 1: game in thirty minutes, and the Bears didn't do anything offensively.
Speaker 1: It's basically burrowed through them. A couple of interceptions and
Speaker 1: they had short fields and got touchdown. So I didn't
Speaker 1: see anything there from the Bears offensively. That makes me
Speaker 1: think that they can handle the high powered offensive the Browns.
Speaker 1: I don't like laying seven ones in the NFL, but
Speaker 1: the Browns are a team that can score with They've
Speaker 1: proven they can score the ball. First of all, does
Speaker 1: anybody run the football like the Browns in the NFL?
Speaker 1: I mean, these guys are running through massive, massive I
Speaker 1: think I could run for a hundred and fifty yards
Speaker 1: behind the Browns line. You know most of these lines, Okay, maybe,
Speaker 1: but the point is these guys, they have massive holes
Speaker 1: who run through Chubb and the other guy Hunt and everybody.
Speaker 1: They just run and and Baker's not that offensively. I
Speaker 1: just think the Browns can blow the Bears out. I
Speaker 1: I don't believe in this Bears offense at all. Give
Speaker 1: me the Browns minus seven? You got them? Um? Yeah.
Speaker 1: By the way, have you guys seen the Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: Eli Manning? Yes, you have to. You have to have
Speaker 1: two TVs though, because their feet is so far behind,
Speaker 1: and if you're betting live, you can't wait for that feed.
Speaker 1: Oh it's like fifteen seconds behind the regular feed. So
Speaker 1: I'm on air when it's on, so I don't. I
Speaker 1: don't on air. I say, hey, you gotta watch this
Speaker 1: Paint and Eely thin because obviously I don't want people
Speaker 1: going elsewhere. But I recorded it and watched the first
Speaker 1: quarter of it just yesterday that it's the greatest TV
Speaker 1: show I've ever seen in my life. They need to
Speaker 1: cut out the guests. They don't need a guest they
Speaker 1: can have. They need to get the right guest because
Speaker 1: I thought McAfee and he saved the day, because look,
Speaker 1: Patrick willis great player for the fort he was not
Speaker 1: very good. Gronk had the one good line. Oh, I
Speaker 1: don't watch film. I just run by dudes. But Gronk
Speaker 1: is an amiable dunce. Okay, He's not gonna give you
Speaker 1: any insight, So you've got to get the right guests
Speaker 1: like Barkley on The Raiders. Broadcast of his Raiders Ravens
Speaker 1: Week one was very entertaining. But people obviously want to
Speaker 1: hear Peyton and Eli. I mean, Peyton has just such
Speaker 1: a great mind, especially Peyton for the game, and he
Speaker 1: can break down He's like, Okay, when they're running these
Speaker 1: when they run these two underneath safeties, run the ball,
Speaker 1: run the ball. And that's what we always did. And
Speaker 1: I remember back as a Colts fan. I'm like, he
Speaker 1: would always audible to that whenever he would run, whenever
Speaker 1: they would show that look. So he gives you such
Speaker 1: interesting things. He gives you anecdote, he gives you good stories,
Speaker 1: and you learn more were about football watching those two
Speaker 1: guys than you could ever learn anywhere else. Peyton Manning
Speaker 1: is the greatest public speaker we have alive today. That
Speaker 1: was this major at the University of Tennessee, that Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame speech. Yeah, I mean, it hit every note
Speaker 1: and it was and they and they gave one of
Speaker 1: the greatest of all time nine minutes, by the way
Speaker 1: to do all name speech. I'm like, he can get
Speaker 1: the hour treatment. He's Peyton freaking manning, you know. But
Speaker 1: they had two classes that weekend, and I kind of
Speaker 1: it's like, how do you encapsulate that career nine minutes?
Speaker 1: Oh you can't, but can I just give it? Eli?
Speaker 1: Shout out and we'll move on because Mike he's got
Speaker 1: a timeline. But Eli had a really great sense also
Speaker 1: of television and of the people watching and listening, because
Speaker 1: Peyton would sometimes drift and Eli would be like, well,
Speaker 1: for the fans, let them know why you said what
Speaker 1: you said. Like they're perfect, the two of them. He's
Speaker 1: like you, He's like you Eli, more like you very sweet.
Speaker 1: I don't want to hug you. Y. I have to
Speaker 1: tell you your show is the most easy listening show
Speaker 1: on the network. You can listen to it every day.
Speaker 1: That's very nice of you, because there's just such a
Speaker 1: there's no no the flow of is it's so good
Speaker 1: with you because he's a professional radio person, you know
Speaker 1: what I mean, And he's just you know, I don't
Speaker 1: love every guest, but I can listen to the show
Speaker 1: every day. You know he's not going to say everything's
Speaker 1: like that. Reynolds guy is absolutely freaking I get, I get,
Speaker 1: I can see. I don't have to listen along chats.
Speaker 1: I can just listen to West for ten minutes on
Speaker 1: Thursday mornings and get my golf my golf picks. That's
Speaker 1: very sweet of you to say, Mikey, thank you very much.
Speaker 1: Same to you, by the way, how about you do
Speaker 1: you give your pick? I'm sorry, but but enough about me?
Speaker 1: What do you think about me? No? Here we go?
Speaker 1: So mine is what is Arizona on the road against Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I can make this quick on the road against Jacksonville.
Speaker 1: I have him about seven and a half. Okay. When
Speaker 1: I did guessing lines with Chrissy on Monday, and for
Speaker 1: those who are listening to this a lot, listen to
Speaker 1: guessing lines as well on this podcast feed, that was
Speaker 1: the one that I was the most incredulous. But there
Speaker 1: were two and I'll get to the next one next.
Speaker 1: But I guessed ten and a half and Chrissy said, no,
Speaker 1: it's seven and a half. Now you don't have to
Speaker 1: believe in my ten and a half. But you get
Speaker 1: the idea. I have no idea why this is only
Speaker 1: seven and a half. Last week, Trevor Lawrence for the
Speaker 1: Jacksonville Jaguars against the Broncos fourteen of thirty three for
Speaker 1: one eighteen one touchdown, two picks, and sacked once a
Speaker 1: hundred and eighty nine total yards of offense. That score
Speaker 1: was cosmetically closer because of the kickoffer turn of a touchdown.
Speaker 1: They were out time of possession thirty eight fifty two
Speaker 1: to twenty one oh eight. Urban Meyer is already issuing
Speaker 1: social media, you know, sort of hang in with us comments, right,
Speaker 1: hang in with us, We're gonna get better. It's right
Speaker 1: out of his you know, the the pr playbook. It's
Speaker 1: way too early to be doing that. I think they're
Speaker 1: going to be a disaster. And I am in love
Speaker 1: with Arizona. I fell in love with I think Arizona
Speaker 1: is going places this year. So that's not enough points.
Speaker 1: I'm taking Arizona minus the seven and a half. There's
Speaker 1: two things here, and I'm gonna use that as my
Speaker 1: second pick. Okay, so we don't have to do You
Speaker 1: know that they haven't run a play in the red
Speaker 1: zone yet this year, Jacksonville. They haven't had a snap
Speaker 1: in the red zone yet. Trevor Lawrence has the second
Speaker 1: worst yards per attempt in the league at five point four,
Speaker 1: behind only Andy Dalton and Trevor Lawrence. This new statistic,
Speaker 1: I love it. Uncatchable passes by far number one thirty
Speaker 1: six untatchable. Think about that, thirty six percent of his
Speaker 1: passes cannot be caught. So of the remainding with the
Speaker 1: remaining sixty four, then you have a defender actually defending
Speaker 1: it right. So, and at midfield after the game, urban
Speaker 1: Meyer tells VIC Fanjo, it's like playing Alabama every week
Speaker 1: in this league. That's what he said. They said that
Speaker 1: says it's like playing Alabama every week. Wow, um, well
Speaker 1: that is actually like playing Alabama every week. Because the
Speaker 1: West West normally we would go for you to go
Speaker 1: to you here for the second way. That, by the ways,
Speaker 1: my second pick to Arizona. But Todd complained that we
Speaker 1: need a snake it this year, so we had to
Speaker 1: go to Todd and what's stubble two? Toddy? Well, because West,
Speaker 1: what had what happened was everybody would get the pick first.
Speaker 1: I had to pick last every time, and then you
Speaker 1: know it just wasn't fair. So Todd would complain about
Speaker 1: being last on the prices right too. I mean, what
Speaker 1: what what disadvantage that you have by going last? What
Speaker 1: was their bits again? I want the Miami doll Dolphins
Speaker 1: for the same reason that West sad, but mostly because
Speaker 1: they were down thirty five and nothing. But I'm not
Speaker 1: taking them because they can't block words ship, So I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with a different pick instead. West's face is priceless.
Speaker 1: He's like, I can't believe I came to this. If
Speaker 1: I don't do the Miami Dolphins song, they get upset. Anyways, Ah,
Speaker 1: here's the deal. I'm gonna go with the green Bay
Speaker 1: Packers against the San Francisco under the fifty points under
Speaker 1: fifty in the green Bay San Francisco game. And the
Speaker 1: reason is I see San Francisco as I think. I
Speaker 1: think the coach there knows that he doesn't want Jimmy
Speaker 1: to get a little out over his skis. Let's run
Speaker 1: the football that's played good defense, Let's grind, grind, grind,
Speaker 1: and green Bay has a tendency to have these really
Speaker 1: long drives, so I think this is gonna be a
Speaker 1: grinder type game. And I think forty Niners are gonna
Speaker 1: be mostly an underteam, sort of like what we saw
Speaker 1: against the Eagles last week. And uh, therefore, I think
Speaker 1: fifty is kind of high in a game where you
Speaker 1: you're you're likely to see a lot of running by
Speaker 1: San Francisco and a lot of defense by San Francisco.
Speaker 1: And therefore I'm gonna go under the fifty. I don't
Speaker 1: think that the Packers are gonna score a bunch of points.
Speaker 1: I know the Packers scored a bunch of points against
Speaker 1: the Lions, but it's the Lions, and they were at
Speaker 1: home the first week against the Saints. That the Packers
Speaker 1: look like world beaters, I don't think so. So I
Speaker 1: don't see the Packers scoring a ton here. And the
Speaker 1: Niners is a kind of offense where I think he
Speaker 1: doesn't want Garoppolo to beat him, and so he's gonna
Speaker 1: run the ball. He's gonna do controlled passing. They have
Speaker 1: these long drives. Give me under fifth, Wesley. If if
Speaker 1: Todd is going to do the Miami Dolphins song, maybe
Speaker 1: I'll save it if I get a return appearance here
Speaker 1: where I can do the San Diego Superchargers song. That's
Speaker 1: our buddies in the world dying for that song. So
Speaker 1: if you can sing it right, It's a very hard
Speaker 1: song to sing. If you could sing it, you should
Speaker 1: try it, right. That was the greatest lie our parents
Speaker 1: ever told us was that disco is bad. Disc is amazing.
Speaker 1: What are you talking about, San Diego Superchargers. I missed
Speaker 1: that song of the Spanosa is Uh that went ahead
Speaker 1: and that was more fun than disco. Yeah, that was
Speaker 1: kind of a hybrid. It was like a little bit
Speaker 1: of a Funkadelic or like an earth Wind and Fire
Speaker 1: type of vibe. By the way, happy earth Wind and
Speaker 1: Fire night of September. That's just a couple of nights ago.
Speaker 1: But anyway, getting to the second pick here and uh,
Speaker 1: kind of looking over and I'm going to, uh also
Speaker 1: go with one that Todd is on, and I'm going
Speaker 1: to go with the Cleveland Browns minus seven. Now, in
Speaker 1: full disclosure, there is six and a half in some
Speaker 1: far away places. And I think it tells you that
Speaker 1: the market really really values justin Fields because what was
Speaker 1: this on the look at It was nine and a
Speaker 1: half and then Dalton gets hurt, Fields finishes the game.
Speaker 1: It comes out at seven and a half on Sunday night.
Speaker 1: Now it's confirmed that Fields is going to be the starter.
Speaker 1: It goes down to seven and you're even starting to
Speaker 1: see six and a half in the market. Uh And
Speaker 1: and I think this is kind of a bylow spot
Speaker 1: on Cleveland. They're also getting one Odell Beckham Jr. Back
Speaker 1: in the lineup. I think that that is going to help. Now,
Speaker 1: in full disclosure, they did lose Jarvis Landry as well,
Speaker 1: so you know, you lose one and you gain one here.
Speaker 1: But I think justin fields on the road here you
Speaker 1: kind of saw in that Cincinnati game and and it
Speaker 1: was a close game in the stats, but on the scoreboard,
Speaker 1: like the Bears were dominating the game. It was twenty
Speaker 1: three because that was one of my contest entries in
Speaker 1: the in the in the circu million, and also I
Speaker 1: bet it at a worse number, and the Bears were
Speaker 1: like dominating the game even though they weren't doing much offensively. Well,
Speaker 1: justin Fields, it gets to be twenty to Tenny those
Speaker 1: an interception deep in his own territory, Joe Burrow has
Speaker 1: that one play drive and then it's seventeen. Now Fields
Speaker 1: made the play to run on third down that essentially
Speaker 1: into the game. But that's what you're gonna get with
Speaker 1: justin fields. You're gonna get a guy that's gonna give
Speaker 1: you those wow moments, and then you're gonna get those
Speaker 1: WTF moments where it's like, Okay, now the first read's
Speaker 1: not there, He's got to make a second and third
Speaker 1: and fourth read and he's gonna struggle doing that. And
Speaker 1: to Todd's point when he talked about offensive line play
Speaker 1: and what we were mentioning earlier, Chicago Bears not exactly
Speaker 1: set on the offensive line. Now Fields can at least
Speaker 1: give you a chance to make plays with his legs
Speaker 1: that that the red rifle, the jinja ninja, whatever you
Speaker 1: want to call Andy Dalton can't do. But I'm with
Speaker 1: bag Water Pistol copyright Michael Palm. Yeah, I'm with I'm
Speaker 1: with Todd here. I think the Cleveland Browns this is
Speaker 1: a BILO spot. I know they gave one away against
Speaker 1: in the City, and I think they might have been
Speaker 1: a little bit hungover with that. Now they got ahead
Speaker 1: of the number when Taylor went out. But that's why
Speaker 1: I didn't lay it with Cleveland last week because I
Speaker 1: thought they gave that to Kansas City. And that's two
Speaker 1: years in a row that they've lost close games to them.
Speaker 1: That we're both winnable games, so they're a little hungover
Speaker 1: and they didn't end up covering the spread. I think
Speaker 1: this is the cover time for Cleveland. I don't hate it.
Speaker 1: I don't hate it at all. I think the chasm
Speaker 1: between the Halves and the Abnats is really gonna be
Speaker 1: seen this week. My number two is the Los Angeles Charge.
Speaker 1: Speaking of the Superchargers, what am I getting six and
Speaker 1: a half here? Todd on the Chargers? On the Chargers,
Speaker 1: you are getting six and a half. This is staged
Speaker 1: six and a half all week. I don't get it
Speaker 1: the Chargers. There was not a person who watched that
Speaker 1: Chargers Cowboys game last week who thought the Chargers weren't
Speaker 1: the better team. And Mike McCarthy gets bailed out by
Speaker 1: Greg's Airline on the fifty six yard or the mischugus
Speaker 1: of Mike McCarthy being blocked, the was blocked got a
Speaker 1: billion dollar one. He's like, I was clock blocked, blocked,
Speaker 1: I was clock blocked, and then uh and then he said,
Speaker 1: oh and Kellyn Kellen Moore, something happened with him too,
Speaker 1: like the ref got in his way or something. It's
Speaker 1: ridiculous anyway, Line bail him out. But that was justin
Speaker 1: Herbert one for three thirty eight. How Mario Cristo Ball
Speaker 1: and Anthony Lynn couldn't do anything with him, I have
Speaker 1: no idea, but they're a good football team. They did
Speaker 1: have twelve penalties for ninety nine yards. They do have
Speaker 1: to clean that up, but that that also affected the
Speaker 1: game in a way that it shouldn't on a on
Speaker 1: a given week. They had zero touchdowns on three second
Speaker 1: half red zone possessions, one of which was that Micah
Speaker 1: Parsons bullshit sack which was ruled in the grasp, which
Speaker 1: is like, give me a break, give him a chance
Speaker 1: to score the touchdown. That was the second and goal
Speaker 1: of the Dallas seven with five thirty five left, they
Speaker 1: have to settle for the field goal which led to
Speaker 1: them the Greg's airline game winning kick. That just have
Speaker 1: lost eight games the last three seasons by three points
Speaker 1: or fewer. That's awful, but you know what it also means.
Speaker 1: They lose a lot of games by three points or fewer.
Speaker 1: And I think they can keep up on offense with
Speaker 1: the Chiefs. The Chiefs defense can't stop anybody. You're giving
Speaker 1: me six and a half. I love justin Herbert Man
Speaker 1: I think as good as we think he is. You
Speaker 1: know the question that we've been throwing around him. If
Speaker 1: not Patrick Mahomes, who do you start an NFL team
Speaker 1: with today? I think it's justin Herbert. I really do
Speaker 1: charge Chiefs don't in their last a billion games. It's
Speaker 1: ridiculous to leave that trend is correct to in a billion. Now,
Speaker 1: let me ask you as a question, I'm interested to
Speaker 1: see what you do here. You clearly like the the
Speaker 1: Chargers here in the points? Do you ever try to
Speaker 1: middle like with the teaser like? There's a lot of
Speaker 1: opportunities to do that this week, Like, for instance, let's
Speaker 1: say you like the Lions at eight and a half
Speaker 1: or nine as it was in the week, but then
Speaker 1: you can get Baltimore now down to two and a
Speaker 1: half at the under three and under seven. Do you,
Speaker 1: guys ever try to do that where you might take
Speaker 1: a big underdog but tease a small favor and see
Speaker 1: if you can try to middle. For me, the truth
Speaker 1: is I never end up doing it. I rarely end
Speaker 1: up doing it. I think about doing it a lot,
Speaker 1: but I rarely end up doing it in practice. Never, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never do it. Yeah, mostly bet in game anyway,
Speaker 1: So I don't really mess around too much pregame. The
Speaker 1: illegal motion on the touchdown to total nonsense. How many
Speaker 1: times you watch that over and over and over again.
Speaker 1: Where's the motion? And they threw the flag after the
Speaker 1: way they already had the touchdown. Coarnti was awful. Day
Speaker 1: stopped the game over. That's what stopped both offenses was
Speaker 1: Coarnti and his crew with the twenty flags. Those damn
Speaker 1: SEC refs. Oh they're bad. How about the punt in
Speaker 1: the in the in the in the Mississippi State game,
Speaker 1: He's blowed the ball dead. They had an issue a
Speaker 1: statement on that too the state. That was a job
Speaker 1: they got job too. The penn State third down punt.
Speaker 1: I was texting Felika. I'm like, hey, dude, you gotta
Speaker 1: tell him like that was a punt on third down.
Speaker 1: He goes, we think so too, We think so And
Speaker 1: they went to the replay. Yeah, and they there's eight
Speaker 1: officials on the field thought it was fourth down. I
Speaker 1: pulled my team off. If I was James Franklin, I
Speaker 1: would pull them off the field until they got it right.
Speaker 1: A little bit about Bob Knight against the Russians in
Speaker 1: the exhibition. You remember that when he pulled them off
Speaker 1: the field. That's the todd Right theory. The Todd Right
Speaker 1: theory is when like in that Rams Saints NFC playoff game,
Speaker 1: he was like, pull the team off the field until
Speaker 1: you get it right. We're not showing back up. I
Speaker 1: love that, Like, somebody's got to do that one day
Speaker 1: to play to places proceeding the bad punt, the bad
Speaker 1: fourth down? How is that grounding? He's under Note the
Speaker 1: rest in a clean pocket and the receiver broke the
Speaker 1: rod out, and all of a sudden they're calling intentional grounding.
Speaker 1: And there was something about that ref's confidence in all
Speaker 1: his picksl bothered me. I was like, you really think
Speaker 1: you're doing this right, don't you. I mean, but let's
Speaker 1: just think about where where they get the pool of
Speaker 1: referees for these ball games. I mean, it's not exactly
Speaker 1: same place, same place we gets. What are you saying, Toddy?
Speaker 1: Now you're straight now. I'm just saying a lot of
Speaker 1: these referees are not exactly your mensum members. That's all
Speaker 1: I'm saying. Okay, that's fair, fair, alright, Pick number three.
Speaker 1: Mikey's on the timeline. Uh, Mikey you start, Okay, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go over Rams Bucks over fifty five and a half. No, okay,
Speaker 1: I'll take it. Look look, I mean Frank Reich and
Speaker 1: and the Cults and ability on gold to go really
Speaker 1: masked that score in that game. And look, the Cincinnati
Speaker 1: Bengals defense had a much easier time shutting down the
Speaker 1: Bears and the Rams did. Michael Lombardo is famous for
Speaker 1: right in the Washington defense is only good because we
Speaker 1: say they're good. They're no good. How about the Rams
Speaker 1: defense and the Bears defense? Who are the defense? There?
Speaker 1: Really isn't. But all these teams we thought we're gonna
Speaker 1: have great defenses really haven't. And I think Bray, we'll
Speaker 1: have a heyday here. But I also think that the
Speaker 1: Rams are going to move the ball with Stafford and
Speaker 1: they're gonna throw the ball. Mark, I don't see a
Speaker 1: lot of punts in this game. I bet the Cowboy
Speaker 1: game over with the Chargers, you know, and they don't
Speaker 1: put in the first half and that game goes under,
Speaker 1: you know, through all that myriad of thing, I think
Speaker 1: this is another game where you see three or less punts.
Speaker 1: So I'm willing to go over the get five thou
Speaker 1: catches in this game, yeah, and like five thousand yards
Speaker 1: a yak because no one can tack a little apparently
Speaker 1: this year. Alright, so over fifty six Todd checking you
Speaker 1: on the number west, your third and final. Oh yeah,
Speaker 1: I'm down to a couple here, so I'm gonna have
Speaker 1: to just go ahead and bite the bullet and take
Speaker 1: the ugliest one on the board, the j E T
Speaker 1: S Jets Jets Jets plus ten and a half. I
Speaker 1: did bet eleven a week and I know this is
Speaker 1: going to be pooh pooed and uh. When I talked
Speaker 1: with my partner on the entries in the contest, he's
Speaker 1: gonna be I can't take it. I don't think we
Speaker 1: could take it. Last I don't think we could use
Speaker 1: let's not know that Pearl's gonna do this. He's gonna
Speaker 1: do this west west. We can't west west west West.
Speaker 1: I don't think we could take it. I don't think
Speaker 1: we can do it. I just don't know. I just
Speaker 1: don't know we're gonna get well and I don't know either,
Speaker 1: But I'm gonna go and roll with him at ten
Speaker 1: and a half because look, everything is priced in now
Speaker 1: we know Teddy b is Teddy covers here, He's thirty
Speaker 1: eight and fourteen as a starter, even better on the road.
Speaker 1: But Teddy Bridgewater has never been this big of a
Speaker 1: favorite before. Now you're laying double digits. And I go
Speaker 1: back to a segment that you did on your primetime
Speaker 1: Action show, which you can catch on MSG plus and
Speaker 1: also on Visa Plug. I'm playing Will Hill saying Vista
Speaker 1: dot com slash subscribe. But anyway, you made the point
Speaker 1: when you were talking about the Denver Broncos, because remember
Speaker 1: what they were preseason, they were about what seven and
Speaker 1: a half on the winds. You might have seen some
Speaker 1: books go to eight at Juice to the Under when
Speaker 1: Teddy Bridgewater was named starter over Drew Lock and then
Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, what do they do? They
Speaker 1: go beat the giants. It reminds me of the be
Speaker 1: Chris Rock HBO special. I forget the title, where it's
Speaker 1: like people want credit for stuff they're supposed to do that,
Speaker 1: they're just supposed to be supposed to take care of
Speaker 1: my kids. What do you want a cookie? Exactly a
Speaker 1: great bit, and look they beat the giants on the road.
Speaker 1: As small road favorites. I wasn't sure they were going
Speaker 1: to do that, but they did, and then all of
Speaker 1: a sudden they get priced to ten and a half
Speaker 1: on the season. We couldn't understand. And this is a
Speaker 1: team that I do think is gonna be a wild
Speaker 1: card team. I picked it in the Vista and Broke
Speaker 1: Football betting Guide. But now you're starting to see these
Speaker 1: huge numbers on Denver. I know Zach Wilson though through
Speaker 1: four interceptions, I know they were bad and they've looked awful.
Speaker 1: They have offensive line issues. McKay Beckton is out for
Speaker 1: the interim because he got hurt in week one. But
Speaker 1: I just think this is such a big number. Denver's
Speaker 1: got Baltimore coming in next week, and that's a big
Speaker 1: game you could potentially have. They're already looking ahead, like okay,
Speaker 1: you could potentially have like a playoff meeting early in
Speaker 1: the playoffs with Baltimore and Denver, so they could be
Speaker 1: looking ahead. And I'm gonna hold my nose here and
Speaker 1: we're going like to the sulfur factory. We're holding our
Speaker 1: nose so much here, and I'm gonna take plus ten
Speaker 1: and a half with p J. E. T. S Jets
Speaker 1: like I like to think though, I think you're gonna
Speaker 1: convince Parlay too. I think you'll convince Jets fan Jeff
Speaker 1: Parlay that he said he might be that that bad.
Speaker 1: He says, I'm also that Jets can't be as bad
Speaker 1: as they played against the Patriots. They're not that bad
Speaker 1: on defense. On defense, they're actually not bad at all.
Speaker 1: On offense, they're horrendous. So you want to go under
Speaker 1: forty one and a half? Is that your pick? I
Speaker 1: was actually thinking about that, but I'm not gonna see
Speaker 1: that game. What's your last one about that? What's your
Speaker 1: last one? My last pick? My last pick is a
Speaker 1: different under that I'm sure Mikey likes as well, And
Speaker 1: that is your New Orleans Saints and your New England
Speaker 1: Patriots to go under forty two points. And I just
Speaker 1: think that that Bill Belichick. You know, first of all,
Speaker 1: I watched the whole Patriots Jets game as well. I
Speaker 1: don't think that the New England Patriots looked that good
Speaker 1: on offense. That was more the Jets played. Actually, the
Speaker 1: Jets played good on defense, to be perfectly honest with you,
Speaker 1: it was mostly just the interceptions, which which was the situation.
Speaker 1: The Patriots defense is good they only gave up seventeen
Speaker 1: points to Miami. They played very good on defense against
Speaker 1: the Jets. Granted the Jets are aren't great, and I'm
Speaker 1: not sold on this Jamis Winston story. I mean, I
Speaker 1: watched that game on the on the short cuts. They
Speaker 1: could do nothing against Carolina, absolutely nothing. So are you
Speaker 1: telling me now they're gonna go up into Foxboro and
Speaker 1: Belichick is not gonna cook up some nice dish of
Speaker 1: defensive ste against against your boy Jamis there and mac Brown,
Speaker 1: They're gonna I really think he thinks mac Brown is
Speaker 1: the real deal. Possibly, But let's go slow. Let's have controlled,
Speaker 1: you know, controlled passing. Let's just run the ball. Let's
Speaker 1: let's play this like a slow Belichick you know, cauldron
Speaker 1: type of game where he wins it, you know in
Speaker 1: the old days, you know, or something like that. Slow
Speaker 1: the game down, use our defensive football, because we know
Speaker 1: our defense is the number one unit on our football team.
Speaker 1: I think this game is going under. And the other
Speaker 1: thing is New Orleans is good on defense. It's not
Speaker 1: like New Orleans got got in trouble against Carolina. They
Speaker 1: played well on defense and just couldn't do anything offensively.
Speaker 1: So I like New Orleans defense. I like New England's defense.
Speaker 1: I want unto and and my final play is akin
Speaker 1: to yours. I actually agree with everything you say. I
Speaker 1: took New England and my minus three or minus two
Speaker 1: and a half. Yet what am I there are? That
Speaker 1: there are two and a half's in the market, and
Speaker 1: I think there are several of them. But what would
Speaker 1: West West? What would you call the consists? How about three?
Speaker 1: Even minus three? Even? That doesn't do any good though,
Speaker 1: because we are units. Yeah, this year we gave him
Speaker 1: the extra juice to I think he should eat some
Speaker 1: juice this time. Damn juice. I'm on New England for
Speaker 1: all the reasons that you're I just want to say,
Speaker 1: I said juice. By the way, people, I agree with you,
Speaker 1: and I think Bill Belichick has got is just salivating
Speaker 1: over the Jamis Winston thing. Has your impression of Sean
Speaker 1: Payton from week one to week two gone any further downhill?
Speaker 1: And the fact that not that he's not a Hall
Speaker 1: of Fame coach, but in the end, maybe he can't
Speaker 1: solve the problem that is Maria Jamis Winston. Winston eleven
Speaker 1: for twenty two last week for a hundred and eleven yards. Uh.
Speaker 1: The Saints had five first downs, their fewest as a
Speaker 1: franchise since seven. They were two of eleven on third
Speaker 1: down versus Carolina. They were over two on fourth down.
Speaker 1: They had a hundred and twenty eight total yards of offense.
Speaker 1: A hundred and twenty eight. I'll do the math. That's Carolina.
Speaker 1: That's thirty two yards a quarter. Have six first downs
Speaker 1: for the whole game. Yeah, I wrote five, but then
Speaker 1: I saw six later. Yeah. Remember that Winston when he
Speaker 1: had that four touchdown passes in like ninety five yards
Speaker 1: five and then he threw that fifty some yard Harris
Speaker 1: and I got him over. But that's the lowest yards
Speaker 1: ever for five touchdown games. You're right, it was. It
Speaker 1: was four for ninety and then he had fifty of
Speaker 1: them more than one shot. Well, their first seven drives
Speaker 1: last week were five punts, one pick, and one turnover
Speaker 1: on downs. By the way, they were out of time
Speaker 1: of possession as well, thirty one thirty two they were.
Speaker 1: They also throw in eleven penalties for a hundred and
Speaker 1: fifteen yards. The interesting thing Camaro was eight for five yards.
Speaker 1: The interesting thing is Sean Payton didn't pull out Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill Taysom Hill only had two carries for sixteen yards.
Speaker 1: Like that was the weirdest part about it. It's like
Speaker 1: we used to get annoyed that he kept throwing Taysom
Speaker 1: Hill into games last year, and we're like, just quit
Speaker 1: with the taste Millstone. Now when when Winston is floundering,
Speaker 1: he's like, I'm bailing him out with days on Hill. Well,
Speaker 1: maybe he's committed to Winston. That's why he's not doing that.
Speaker 1: He didn't have to worry about Breeze thinking he wasn't
Speaker 1: gonna be the number one guy because he well, I'm
Speaker 1: going to it in New England, it's not the drives
Speaker 1: went anywhere. Every drive was like three and out before
Speaker 1: you could even Yeah, New England, Minustery is my third pick. Okay,
Speaker 1: let us move to our teaser leg of the week,
Speaker 1: Hod your first. I like my teaser a lot. I'm
Speaker 1: gonna go with the buff Bills. I think the Bills,
Speaker 1: by the way, I think the Bills are a team
Speaker 1: that I think has actually a better defense than people realize.
Speaker 1: Last year it was a big, high scoring team. The
Speaker 1: defense wasn't that great. The offense was scoring like crazy.
Speaker 1: I like what I've seen out of Buffalo's defense. I mean,
Speaker 1: maybe Miami's offensive line is the problem, but they were
Speaker 1: all over whoever was playing quarterback for Miami. Um. I
Speaker 1: think the Bills are going to at least be able
Speaker 1: to win the game against Tyler Taylor Heineke. So I
Speaker 1: will take the Bills down to what what would be
Speaker 1: Bills down to one and a half, and then I
Speaker 1: will take with them my Brownies down to one because
Speaker 1: I think the Browns. Like I said before, I gave
Speaker 1: you a million reasons why I think the Browns. Mostly
Speaker 1: they just blow massive holes in the offensive line. Okay,
Speaker 1: I already said what mine are because I already have
Speaker 1: them in my bedding account as well. Uh Carolina, with Arizona,
Speaker 1: I'll say Arizona line of minus two and a half
Speaker 1: in Arizona, minds one and a half? Gill, Ye, that
Speaker 1: is mine. Thursday night, coupled with Arizona against Jacksonville, Mind's
Speaker 1: the same as Todd. Oh, same as Todd? What was
Speaker 1: that again? Buffalo and Buffalo and Cleveland? Alright, West, Okay,
Speaker 1: I'm gonna go with the Minnesota Vikings now up to
Speaker 1: seven and a half. This team I think should be
Speaker 1: two and up. They should be there two points away
Speaker 1: from you bet them on the money line at all
Speaker 1: this week. I'm may I was hoping, actually was hoping
Speaker 1: Seattle would hold on against Tennessee so they'd be a
Speaker 1: little bit of a fat and happy too. And oh
Speaker 1: then I brought it would have probably gotten three at
Speaker 1: home with Minnesota just as an outright and then taking
Speaker 1: them on a spread money line. But I am going
Speaker 1: to tease them up here to seven and a half.
Speaker 1: There are some two's out there can get eight every
Speaker 1: little half point gowns. But Minnesota, I thought they had
Speaker 1: a better balance last week. Kirk Cousins didn't have to
Speaker 1: go at forty nine times because remember that week one,
Speaker 1: they had like nine penalties on the offensive line in
Speaker 1: the first half against Cincinnati and that got him behind.
Speaker 1: They had I think four holdings and five false starts.
Speaker 1: Last week, they were a little bit more balanced. They
Speaker 1: were able to run ball. Kirk Cousins didn't have to
Speaker 1: throw it almost fifty times, and he got him down there,
Speaker 1: and it's just Joseph missed the kick. They should have
Speaker 1: beaten Arizona last week. You know, he makes two fifty
Speaker 1: two yards and then the week before, Yeah, I hear
Speaker 1: Paul Allen's call on the radio film. He thought it
Speaker 1: was good. Yeah, he said, take us up, it's gone.
Speaker 1: It's good. And then and then the color guys like no,
Speaker 1: He's like, oh no, we missed it. So we do
Speaker 1: this segment on on odds on wilder right, And I
Speaker 1: asked them all is this line wild or is it right?
Speaker 1: So I said, Seahawks leaning two on the road here
Speaker 1: in Minnesota, is this wilder right? He was Mike, this
Speaker 1: line is right. Wait, wait, no, it's wild. That's so
Speaker 1: I do have Minnesota, and I've teased them in a
Speaker 1: couple of different legs. I did tease them with the
Speaker 1: rams also up through the three and the seven. That's
Speaker 1: not what I'm gonna use here. We're gonna go Carolina
Speaker 1: and Minnesota, Carolina minus to Minnesota plus seven and a half.
Speaker 1: If Carolina teaser doesn't come through tonight, there's gonna be
Speaker 1: a lot of teasers done all over. Absolutely, so, so
Speaker 1: it's just reload. Just people want, people want action on
Speaker 1: a standalone game. I gotta do. Absolutely. The Vikings killed
Speaker 1: me because if you follow my uh my Twitter at
Speaker 1: t wishes, you would know that I was eight and
Speaker 1: four in game. This week giving your giving you live
Speaker 1: in game picks, and I would have been nine and
Speaker 1: three had the Minnesota Vikings kicker. I had Vikings minus
Speaker 1: one thirty that I got early in the game. The
Speaker 1: kicker missed it, and that put me at eight and
Speaker 1: before and you had three over over there also, right Todd, Yeah,
Speaker 1: I won the over and easily. But but I was
Speaker 1: talking about the and some some of these college games
Speaker 1: by you have to you should follow my Twitter if
Speaker 1: you like, because like SMU game was like the easiest
Speaker 1: overall time oh miss over for team total. I mean,
Speaker 1: I don't even know which ones I put up which
Speaker 1: ones I didn't, But you should definitely follow that wishing
Speaker 1: if you like in game that truly, truly your your
Speaker 1: college football Saturday feed is very entertaining. I don't have
Speaker 1: time for your mission, Guss on Sunday, but Saturday, yeah,
Speaker 1: first of all was eight and four, Gilly, so you
Speaker 1: should make some time. Mr svent Lana and Vissimova Psycha whatever,
Speaker 1: Psycha Psycha and West is so right Minnesota, the Dalvin
Speaker 1: Cook fumble, the Greg Joseph thirty seven yard or to
Speaker 1: place there two and oh otherwise, so that's the thin
Speaker 1: line final two questions. Odds on is about to start.
Speaker 1: We gotta go. What do you gonna say, Todd, No,
Speaker 1: just go ahead. I was just gonna say, I have that.
Speaker 1: I have that teaser in my five team teaser, like
Speaker 1: a Minnesota Vikings when I like, I do too. I
Speaker 1: have a five teamer that pays plus three fifty. I
Speaker 1: throw all all of these in the punch plus four
Speaker 1: hundred Raftings gives you four d Anything you can do,
Speaker 1: I can do better. I can do anything better than you.
Speaker 1: Not that cursed bookmaker. They don't give us all right,
Speaker 1: just show up with bags of cats. They do. Baby
Speaker 1: all right? Here it is big favorites supposed likely to
Speaker 1: lose out right, Caroline at eight point favorites on the
Speaker 1: road at Houston tonight, Cleveland seven point favorites at home
Speaker 1: against Chicago, Arizona seven and a half point favorites on
Speaker 1: the road against Jacksonville. Should I throw in the Kansas
Speaker 1: City game? Or is everybody gonna pick anything? Seven? Or
Speaker 1: about it? Right? Yeah? Well usually six In this case,
Speaker 1: we won't. We won't use that one. Buffalo seven and
Speaker 1: a half or whatever they are now hosting Washington. There
Speaker 1: goes my screen. If my computer just went out. What
Speaker 1: are the other ones? Todd Ravens, Lions, Ravens on the
Speaker 1: road against the Lions. That's the last one in Denver,
Speaker 1: of course, hosting j Browns seven Denver hosting the Jets
Speaker 1: is the other one. Yes, okay, I think the Texans
Speaker 1: are most likely to win. That's what Which is the
Speaker 1: one most likely to lose? Out right? You say so?
Speaker 1: You say it's Carolina, Mikey. I don't think any of them,
Speaker 1: but I'll go with even though I played this in
Speaker 1: the teaser, I'll go with the football team because the
Speaker 1: size of blogists made the argument on your show. It's
Speaker 1: while ago we did, he did, he did, he did,
Speaker 1: he said they're live, he said the West mostly that right. Well,
Speaker 1: since we are in the d here in fabulous downtown,
Speaker 1: I want to say the Baltimore Ravens because I think
Speaker 1: that game was so big for them, because remember on
Speaker 1: Monday night football in Kansas City just kind of backhanded
Speaker 1: him and really smacked him around, said you're not on
Speaker 1: this level. Baltimore got down. They had to fight back.
Speaker 1: John Harball, I think I had no choice. So it's like,
Speaker 1: we gotta go for it on our old side. We
Speaker 1: get my homes the ball, we lose, we're basically giving
Speaker 1: him the game. So I think you go Baltimore to Detroit.
Speaker 1: At Detroit, I know they got beat thirty five seventeen
Speaker 1: on Monday Night football. Green Bay ended up easily covering,
Speaker 1: but that game really wasn't that much widespread. I think
Speaker 1: I think Detroit at least they fight in the trenches,
Speaker 1: and I think that's where maybe they can hang in
Speaker 1: this game. So I think Lions could put Ravens on
Speaker 1: upset alert. The only thing that stopped the Lion's offense
Speaker 1: in the whole first half was that phantom hot other
Speaker 1: than that they scored a touchdown. That right, I I
Speaker 1: completely agree with you. That's my pick. It's the reason
Speaker 1: why I haven't considered Baltimore for one second in Survivor
Speaker 1: that wrong. I get plenty of things wrong on a
Speaker 1: daily basis, Todd, so don't don't be alarmed. Final question,
Speaker 1: Bizarro world, you have to play every single side but
Speaker 1: one one that you wouldn't even bet with your buddy's money. Mikey,
Speaker 1: what's the game that you want no part of? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I don't know. If Vikings Seahawks, I still don't know
Speaker 1: what the Seahawks are. I don't know if if their
Speaker 1: defense is good or not. They weren't in the second
Speaker 1: half of that game. Uh so I passed, Okay, you're
Speaker 1: you got odds onto good too? Yeah for a few minutes,
Speaker 1: be uh pithy inters here. Green Bay San Francisco. For me,
Speaker 1: it almost was Indianapolis Tennessee because we do of course,
Speaker 1: no don't know if Carson Wentz is gonna play, so
Speaker 1: it maybe Brett Hunley, so then I would absolutely want nothing.
Speaker 1: What happened to Allinger? I thought he got hurt in
Speaker 1: the preseason and he's reserve right now. So right now
Speaker 1: Honley and jacob ees and have split reps with the
Speaker 1: number one. Actually Hunley got more, so that that was
Speaker 1: probably they don't really love jacob eeson on the road
Speaker 1: in this situation. But for me, it's Green Bay San
Speaker 1: Francisco because I don't know. I don't know where Aaron
Speaker 1: Rodgers's head is at. I think, look, they gotta win
Speaker 1: on Monday night. But they just made one play and
Speaker 1: it basically busted the game open, and then San Francisco
Speaker 1: they were on the verge of going down to Philadelphia.
Speaker 1: Philadelphia basically played like twenty eight really good minutes of
Speaker 1: football in the first half, they don't score when they
Speaker 1: have first and goal. San Francisco gets a touchdown late.
Speaker 1: So yeah, I'm still a little lukewarm on the forty Niners.
Speaker 1: So it would be Packers forty Niners for me to
Speaker 1: avoid the worst beat of the weekend. If you had
Speaker 1: Eagles first half, absolutely yeah. We were covering that on
Speaker 1: the green zone Dame Ross and I was like, wait
Speaker 1: a minute, because we go we go to Dieter curtain Bach,
Speaker 1: who's like our stringer. He works out as a columnist
Speaker 1: in the Bay Area, and he was like, well, they
Speaker 1: had forty Niners, have played about twenty eight minutes of
Speaker 1: bad football. You're in The Eagles about played him, yet
Speaker 1: this is still three enough, and then the forty Niners
Speaker 1: are about to score. That's you knew the Niners. We're
Speaker 1: gonna get him Todd. Todd has left the building, So
Speaker 1: I'll give mine because I think it was of all
Speaker 1: the things I did last week, my best answer was
Speaker 1: to this question when I said the Giants in Washington,
Speaker 1: I want no part of that, and that sort of
Speaker 1: played out that way to me. This week, it's the
Speaker 1: Giants and the Falcons, which may be non sexy, but
Speaker 1: it's like I want I have no idea what we're
Speaker 1: getting in the game. Nothing. I don't even have to
Speaker 1: flesh it out, like how bad or how bad is
Speaker 1: each team? And how competent can each team be long
Speaker 1: enough to outlast that opponent? I don't want any part
Speaker 1: of it. Todd, are you what happened to you? Are
Speaker 1: you going? You just walked out? Did you think the
Speaker 1: show was over? Dides mom? Have an incident? Did we do?
Speaker 1: We only pay him for per hour? There he comes?
Speaker 1: What happened? I had to go run and do the
Speaker 1: nuts show real quickly. What we want no part of?
Speaker 1: I want no part of the Cincinnati Bengals against my
Speaker 1: picks Bird Stars. And here's whatever. I think Big Ben
Speaker 1: is getting too much from from all local people saying
Speaker 1: he's too old. It's not his fault. The offensive guying
Speaker 1: cannot law. If you can't talk and the wide receivers
Speaker 1: can't get separation, how are you gonna have a big
Speaker 1: mill in the touchdown area? You can't get yourself a
Speaker 1: big dinner in the touchdown area if you can't walk,
Speaker 1: Anybody in your receiver can't get any any separation, so
Speaker 1: I don't know about them stores. I got a lot
Speaker 1: of injuries, and who knows what you're getting from this
Speaker 1: Bengal team. I don't want any part of this game,
Speaker 1: so I'm not gonna drive down to the rivers to
Speaker 1: see it and trying to get a free parking spot.
Speaker 1: Forget about it. I'm gonna watch the eight screens and
Speaker 1: that's it. Forget Mark Madden. Todd Wishnev is the super
Speaker 1: genius of Pitts. There you go, Tod, standing invitation. Thank you, guys.
Speaker 1: We gotta run because Mike he's gotta go do a
Speaker 1: show with um All Shaw. It's called Odds on over
Speaker 1: at Vicent West. Thank you for doing this man, appreciating
Speaker 1: it again, all time listener, first time persistent. Thank you.
Speaker 1: We'll do it again later this year. Uh, Mikey for
Speaker 1: Mike Palm for Todd Wishnev Gil Alexander, thanks for listening,
Speaker 1: and thank you for making the first two megapods smash
Speaker 1: download hits top ten all time, both of them in
Speaker 1: in Vicens podcast episode history. So appreciate that. Uh, we'll
Speaker 1: ramp it up all year long. Appreciate it. Thanks for
Speaker 1: listening from all of what's good luck this weekend from
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