WEBVTT - Paying For a Car: Cash Vs. Finance

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<v Speaker 2>this is in from Sandy on ig Hi, Mandy, and Tiffany.

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<v Speaker 2>I have a car buying question for you. I'm looking

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<v Speaker 2>to buy a car later this year. Estimate cost is

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<v Speaker 2>thirty thousand dollars. Should I pay for in cash or

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<v Speaker 2>finance with a large down payment? With car interest rates

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<v Speaker 2>being upwards of seven percent plus and my high yield

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<v Speaker 2>savings account rate is four point three percent, I can

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<v Speaker 2>make a case for taking the money from savings and

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<v Speaker 2>paying for the car and cash, but that will take

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<v Speaker 2>a big chunk out of my savings. That makes me nervous,

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<v Speaker 2>even if the numbers look right. My details, which we

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<v Speaker 2>love when you do details. My emergency fund is fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars. Ooh okay, so it'd be more than half

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<v Speaker 2>your emergency fund. I fully fund my wroth Ira HSA

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<v Speaker 2>and put eleven percent into my four to one case

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<v Speaker 2>traditional slash wrath IRA to our four one case okay,

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<v Speaker 2>put a little into a five twenty nine so that

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<v Speaker 2>means a kid. It sounds like you have a kid

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<v Speaker 2>and I have a seven eighty credit score. I mean, Sandy,

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<v Speaker 2>you looking for a partner. I don't know if you

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<v Speaker 2>as a man or a woman child, but either way

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<v Speaker 2>you look good bare bones. My monthly living expenses are

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five hundred dollars debt free, so thirty thousand would

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<v Speaker 2>be about twelve months of emergency fund income is one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred and one thousand dollars. Thank you if you use

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<v Speaker 2>it for your podcast, Stady, it's a good name. Thank you,

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<v Speaker 2>Thank you, thank You're both awesome.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh you're welcome.

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<v Speaker 2>First of all, Sandy, let's take a moment, cause, Sandy,

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<v Speaker 2>your numbers are cute. I don't know what you look like,

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<v Speaker 2>but I promise you you're good looking cause these numbers

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<v Speaker 2>are fun. Baby, these numbers is fine. If you are

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<v Speaker 2>a woman, super fine. If you are a man, super dupervine. Okay, no,

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<v Speaker 2>this is really awesome. I love to see this. So basically,

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<v Speaker 2>you have about a year and a half of emergency

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<v Speaker 2>fund saved. Give her take with fifty thousand dollars, which

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<v Speaker 2>is great. You're making good money at one hundred thousand dollars.

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<v Speaker 2>Plus you have maxed out on everything, which is great.

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<v Speaker 2>The question you sound kind of like me when I'm

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<v Speaker 2>making a decision, And I'll tell you what my financial

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<v Speaker 2>advisor told me when I'm making a decision whether to

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<v Speaker 2>buy something cash, because I'm in a similar position as you,

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<v Speaker 2>and that I don't have any debt. I max out

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<v Speaker 2>on all my things, I have plenty of emergency savings.

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<v Speaker 1>All the things. It really comes down to.

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<v Speaker 2>On the surface, she told me, like I bought my

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<v Speaker 2>condo and I said, Anjalie, I want to buy my condo.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I want to buy a cash And she said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>Now here's the thing on the surface, is that if

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<v Speaker 2>we're just talking straight math mathematical decision, then is that

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<v Speaker 2>the best choice? No, because my condo was a little

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<v Speaker 2>over five hundred thousand dollars And I said, I want

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<v Speaker 2>to buy a cash five hundred thousand and she said, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>here's the thing, Tiffany, you can, you know, get a loan.

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<v Speaker 2>I think I think the time, maybe I could have

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<v Speaker 2>got a loan for like six percent seven, which is high.

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<v Speaker 2>Because that's why I was kind of like, I don't

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<v Speaker 2>want pay too I don't want to pay loans plus two.

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<v Speaker 2>Quite honestly, I already lost the house to foreclosure in

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<v Speaker 2>my twenties, and I like knowing that I own it

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<v Speaker 2>full out and I just don't want to have to

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<v Speaker 2>pay a mortgage, and I pay hoa here, and so

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<v Speaker 2>I just was like, I just didn't I just didn't.

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<v Speaker 1>Want to have to think about a mortgage.

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<v Speaker 2>So but on the surface, I could have put down

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<v Speaker 2>a good size, you know, down payment like he's like you,

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<v Speaker 2>and I could have paid monthly and then I could

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<v Speaker 2>have put the rest of the money in the market.

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<v Speaker 2>And to be honest, last year, I think the market

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<v Speaker 2>returned about twenty two percent. Thanks, So think about what's

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two percent or three hundred thousand. Like, let's just

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<v Speaker 2>say I put down two hundred, not even two hundred.

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<v Speaker 2>Let's just say I put down one hundred thousand, and

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<v Speaker 2>I put four hundred thousand in the market.

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<v Speaker 1>Yeah, let's do the math. Let's do the math. Let's

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<v Speaker 1>do the math.

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<v Speaker 2>Four hundred thousand, not that I would have put all

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<v Speaker 2>into the market, but let's just say for the times,

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<v Speaker 2>twenty two percent four hundred thousand times point twenty two.

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<v Speaker 2>So what's happening four hundred thousand times point twenty two

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight thousand dollars. So, if we're looking at super

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<v Speaker 2>simple math, I missed out on maybe making an additional

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<v Speaker 2>eighty eight thousand dollars because I could have put the

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<v Speaker 2>money to work versus putting the money inside my my condo.

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<v Speaker 2>My condo did not appreciate eighty eight thousand dollars. Of course,

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<v Speaker 2>that's really simple math. That's you know that probably wouldn't

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<v Speaker 2>have made that. But let's just say even fifty that

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<v Speaker 2>I left on the table for a peace of mind

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<v Speaker 2>for me. So I had to ask myself, what is

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<v Speaker 2>my desire outcome for paying for it in this way

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<v Speaker 2>when I have all everything else, just like you check

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<v Speaker 2>check check check. I wanted peace of mind. And I'm

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<v Speaker 2>not mad at me quote unquote losing out a fifty

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<v Speaker 2>thousand dollars for my own peace of mind.

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<v Speaker 1>Here's why I did not know this. But twenty twenty

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<v Speaker 1>three was a really rough.

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<v Speaker 2>Year in business. I made like almost no money, and

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<v Speaker 2>so I didn't really take home a lot of money

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<v Speaker 2>last year. And normally, I mean I have taken home

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<v Speaker 2>take home, take home, not gross take home some years

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<v Speaker 2>multiple seven figures.

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<v Speaker 1>Last year was barely chill. I don't even know.

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<v Speaker 2>Maybe I made two hundred thousand, I don't even know,

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<v Speaker 2>not that that's a little bit of money, but compared

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<v Speaker 2>to making two million and so on top of everything

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<v Speaker 2>else I was paying for. I'm glad I didn't have

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<v Speaker 2>to pay the mortgage, so I don't I'm not mad

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<v Speaker 2>at my decision, although I was conscious in making that choice.

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<v Speaker 2>What could what could that money if not used to

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<v Speaker 2>pay down the car in full?

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<v Speaker 1>What could that money be doing?

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<v Speaker 2>So then the other thing on the So that's just

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<v Speaker 2>the pure mass side. On the other side, to ask yourself,

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<v Speaker 2>how do you want to feel about this money? Are

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<v Speaker 2>you like, I really don't want to have to pay

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<v Speaker 2>this this That's what it sounds like. You're saying, like

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<v Speaker 2>I really don't want to have to pay for this car.

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<v Speaker 2>Note how long is the car? Note can you prepay?

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<v Speaker 2>You know, let's just say you put down ten thousand

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<v Speaker 2>dollars or five thousands whatever. Are you able to prepay

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<v Speaker 2>if you're just like, ah, I want to be done

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<v Speaker 2>with it. That's something Angelie also told me. What if

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<v Speaker 2>you paid and then wait for interest rates to go

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<v Speaker 2>down and then prepay it off.

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<v Speaker 1>These are just some things to consider.

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<v Speaker 2>You know.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't think it's necessarily wrong to pay.

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<v Speaker 2>The car for thirty thousand dollars, but if I was

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<v Speaker 2>going to get a car note, I would be looking

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<v Speaker 2>at credit unions.

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<v Speaker 1>I know you said seven percent plus, and I agree.

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<v Speaker 1>I took out to look at the numbers.

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<v Speaker 2>But for example, Federal, Navy, Federal right now, I think

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<v Speaker 2>they're offering like a little under five percent, So I

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<v Speaker 2>would be shopping around if I was going to get

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<v Speaker 2>And I know this doesn't fully answer your question like

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<v Speaker 2>what should I do? The answer it depends because you're

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<v Speaker 2>in a good position to make the choice. I want

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<v Speaker 2>everyone listening to understand that Sandy gets to make this

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<v Speaker 2>choice from heart focused out because of the other financial

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<v Speaker 2>positions she finds herself in. I get to make choice

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<v Speaker 2>that says I'm leaving fifty thousand dollars on the table

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<v Speaker 2>so I don't have to stress for twenty twenty three

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<v Speaker 2>because I know that there are other ways that I

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<v Speaker 2>can make the gap up for that fifty thousand. Maybe

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<v Speaker 2>it's a speaking engagement, maybe it's launching something for the

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<v Speaker 2>business or whatever. So you know, Sandy, you get to

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<v Speaker 2>make the choice to say, hmm, you know what could

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<v Speaker 2>I do with that twenty If you're just gonna stick

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<v Speaker 2>the twenty in your savings account, But if you're gonna

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<v Speaker 2>put the twenty maybe into the market. When we know

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<v Speaker 2>on average of market it's gonna yild about ten percent

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<v Speaker 2>give or take, you know, annually. If you look at

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<v Speaker 2>the average, you know, maybe there's money you're leaving on

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<v Speaker 2>the table. So the answer is it's really up to

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<v Speaker 2>you and how you want to feel and navigate. Know

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<v Speaker 2>that any money that is like plunged into like debt,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, or plunge into like an asset that's depreciating,

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<v Speaker 2>is money that's kind of lost over time.

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<v Speaker 1>So if you're looking.

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<v Speaker 2>At the smarter financial choice, probably making a payment probably

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<v Speaker 2>is a smarter financial choice.

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<v Speaker 1>And then but not just putting that money to work

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<v Speaker 1>for savings.

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<v Speaker 2>Actively making that money work, I'd have to you'd have

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<v Speaker 2>to put in the market for it to make sense.

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<v Speaker 2>But if you don't want to own anybody, and you're

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<v Speaker 2>like child, I don't want to have to pay this

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<v Speaker 2>forever and never never, you can pay it off in full.

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<v Speaker 2>So Sandy, I hope that helps you decide what's best

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<v Speaker 2>for you. My stepdaughters text me now harassing me because

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<v Speaker 2>I told her I was gonna buy her. You know, Okay,

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<v Speaker 2>she come on Thursday. Okay, I told her I was

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<v Speaker 2>gonna buy a car for her for a graduation. And

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<v Speaker 2>she's so cute because I told her, like, so if

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<v Speaker 2>I don't know if you can see the mess behind me,

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<v Speaker 2>because I've moved into my condo, which was a lot emotionally,

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<v Speaker 2>I'm in here now, but my office is a mess.

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<v Speaker 1>Nothing is, you know, nothing is. It's just so much

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<v Speaker 1>going on in here.

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<v Speaker 2>And so I told her I would pay her to

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<v Speaker 2>do my office, like to set it up and take

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<v Speaker 2>all the things out of the boxes whatever. And I

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<v Speaker 2>asked her how much you're gonna charge me to set

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<v Speaker 2>up the office and she told me six hundred fe

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<v Speaker 2>I told her to think about it. She told me

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred and fifty dollars. I'm like God, but I

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<v Speaker 2>like for her whenever I hire her to do something,

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<v Speaker 2>I like for her to tell me what she thinks

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<v Speaker 2>she's worth because it's important for her to learn, especially

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<v Speaker 2>as a young black woman to learn. So I always

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<v Speaker 2>tell her, do your research and come to me and

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<v Speaker 2>then explain to me where you got these numbers. So

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<v Speaker 2>she was like, I did my research and I think

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<v Speaker 2>six hundred and fifty dollars. I said, where'd you get

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<v Speaker 2>that from? I said, I will share with you what

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<v Speaker 2>I'm thinking, and you tell me where'd you get that from?

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<v Speaker 2>She's like, well, I googled and I saw that this

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<v Speaker 2>is what people charged. I'm like, like home edit people

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<v Speaker 2>or like.

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<v Speaker 1>Task grabbing people.

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<v Speaker 2>Because I told her I was taking closer to two hundred,

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<v Speaker 2>and she said okay. I said, because I went on

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<v Speaker 2>task grabbing and I looked and I saw organizers were

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<v Speaker 2>about forty to forty five dollars an hour. This is

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<v Speaker 2>probably about a three or four hour jobs. So we're

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<v Speaker 2>looking at about two hundred dollars give or take maybe

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<v Speaker 2>one eighty or two hundred. And she was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I was looking at the super professionals who like have

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<v Speaker 2>their own companies, which understandable, but that ain't choo Sis,

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<v Speaker 2>you're seventeen. So then she said, you know what, okay,

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<v Speaker 2>I will give you. I'll take one sixty. I said, Ellissen.

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<v Speaker 2>I actually had to call her because we were texting.

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<v Speaker 2>I said, girl, I told you two hundred, why are

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<v Speaker 2>you taking one sixty? And then she said something so

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<v Speaker 2>sweet because you think these kids don't be doing She said,

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<v Speaker 2>you always do so much for me, Tiffany. I'm always

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<v Speaker 2>so grateful for you, and so I'm going to give

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<v Speaker 2>you a discount. I was like, oh, that's sweet, but

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<v Speaker 2>don't do that. I told her, don't do that when

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<v Speaker 2>someone makes you an offer for this is what I'm

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<v Speaker 2>willing to pay. Take that money.

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<v Speaker 1>I said.

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<v Speaker 2>You don't get to be a big boss lady and

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<v Speaker 2>taking discounts that nobody asked for. It'd be one thing.

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<v Speaker 2>If I asked for a discount. I did not, I

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<v Speaker 2>said anything listen. I actually was hoping you would push

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<v Speaker 2>back and said, girl, let's do two fifty if it

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<v Speaker 2>goes over four hours, and that's the max that you'll pay.

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<v Speaker 2>And she said okay. So I said, I'm gonna pay

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<v Speaker 2>you the two hundred. Don't ever offer up a discount

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<v Speaker 2>when someone didn't ask for it. And you know, so

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<v Speaker 2>she was just texting that she wants to, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>come by on Thursday to start like organizing, and I

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<v Speaker 2>said okay. And then she was asking me about, you know,

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<v Speaker 2>buying her car, and I will tell you what I

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<v Speaker 2>you know, tell her what I'm going to tell you, Sandy,

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<v Speaker 2>as you look for a car. I don't know if

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<v Speaker 2>you're getting a brand new car, but I have never

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<v Speaker 2>had a brand new car and I.

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<v Speaker 1>Don't want it. I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>Why we all know that cars depreciate as soon as

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<v Speaker 2>you pull it off the lot. You can literally buy

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<v Speaker 2>a shirt from Target, keep it for a week or two,

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<v Speaker 2>say I don't want it, like I don't want it.

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<v Speaker 2>I think this top that I'm wearing this from Target,

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<v Speaker 2>bring it back and get all your money back. You

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<v Speaker 2>keep a car for a week or two, you cannot

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<v Speaker 2>get the same amount of money that you pay for

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<v Speaker 2>that car. It depreciates. A car is an asset something

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<v Speaker 2>you own, but it's a depreciating asset, something that you

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<v Speaker 2>own that has less value over time, unless it's something

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<v Speaker 2>like you know, I don't know original Harley from Cars

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<v Speaker 2>or not. Hardley's not even a car anyway, So considering

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<v Speaker 2>that it depreciates till for time. I do not like

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<v Speaker 2>to buy brand new cars. My dad taught me early on.

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<v Speaker 2>It doesn't make sense. I let most of the depreciation

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<v Speaker 2>falls off in the first year or two, and then

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<v Speaker 2>that's when I buy it. I get my cars one

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<v Speaker 2>or two or even three years old, still fairly new.

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<v Speaker 2>I get it certified pre owned, which means if anything

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<v Speaker 2>breaks on this car, got to fix it for free

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<v Speaker 2>or for a low deductible like fifty dollars or one

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<v Speaker 2>hundred bucks. And so every car owned has been that way.

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<v Speaker 2>My last car I had chat it was always something

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<v Speaker 2>wrong with that car. But guess what, it was certified

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<v Speaker 2>pre owned. They've I've had three new engines in that car.

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<v Speaker 2>Did you have to say it three? I ain't gonna

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<v Speaker 2>shout that company out, you know, it's a famous car,

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<v Speaker 2>brand three new engines, brand new an engine is what

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<v Speaker 2>twenty five hundred, three thousand dollars? You do the math,

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<v Speaker 2>you know, like, they don't pay me to drive that

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<v Speaker 2>car these days. And I still have certified pre on

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<v Speaker 2>that car for the next like three years or something

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<v Speaker 2>like that.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I'm a you know, I'm a drive that car. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>my sister has it now.

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<v Speaker 2>She's gonna drive that car until that certified pre owner

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<v Speaker 2>is up and then she'll sell it. Yo. So if

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<v Speaker 2>it was me, Sandy looks like I told her, listen,

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<v Speaker 2>I told her, you're not getting a new car. You

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<v Speaker 2>have to get a certified pre owned car because you

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<v Speaker 2>get the warranties of a new car for like two

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<v Speaker 2>to four to five years, depending how old the car is.

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<v Speaker 1>Up to a certain number of miles but.

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<v Speaker 2>Without the depreciation that the big hit of the appreciation

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<v Speaker 2>for a car that's brand new. So that's why I

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<v Speaker 2>suggest to you too, Sandy. I don't know if you're

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<v Speaker 2>buying a new one, but if you are considered certified pre.

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<v Speaker 1>Owned, Yeah girl, okay dot free.

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