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Speaker 1: Welcome to The Battleground Podcast wrestling and exclusive interviews with

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Speaker 1: some of your favorite wrestlers abound stop.

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Speaker 2: Being what's up you guys?

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Speaker 3: Welcome back into iHeart Radios official wrestling podcast, The Battleground Podcasts,

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Speaker 3: and man, what an exciting time it is. Ae W

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Speaker 3: Wrestle Dream right around the corner. And uh, I gotta

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Speaker 3: tell you, it has been a minute since we've had

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Speaker 3: these guys on the show. The last time they were

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Speaker 3: on this show, they were announcing that ae W was

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Speaker 3: a thing, and it has been a very long time

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Speaker 3: coming since to get these guys back. Give it up

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Speaker 3: for the goats of Tag team Wrestling, the Young Bucks

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Speaker 3: joining the show.

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Speaker 2: Guys, he thanks for coming back.

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Speaker 4: Has it been that long?

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Speaker 2: Cheez, it has been that long.

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Speaker 3: It's I went back to listen to the interview because

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Speaker 3: we were talking about some things and it was right

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Speaker 3: around the time AW started. We kind of got into

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Speaker 3: you know, I think you guys started, this is where

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Speaker 3: the best wrestle and this was years ago and now

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Speaker 3: all of a sudden, that's kind of the moniker of

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Speaker 3: ae W.

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Speaker 2: And man again, you guys are on the forefront of

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Speaker 2: this thing.

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Speaker 5: It's been wild man it's been a roller coaster, and

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Speaker 5: who knows what's next for the company because I did

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Speaker 5: not see where we're at now seven years ago.

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Speaker 2: How could anyone, I don't say.

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Speaker 5: I don't think anyone would have predicted what we would

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Speaker 5: do as a company. And it's pretty cool. It's pretty humbling,

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Speaker 5: to be honest.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, you can't really enjoy it while it's happening, but

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Speaker 6: you know, we try, We're trying to.

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Speaker 4: Be better about it.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we celebrate little thing.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, like you have to have little small.

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Speaker 6: Victories and you need to kind of step back and

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Speaker 6: look back and go, wow, like this is pretty cool,

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Speaker 6: you know, because in our business, it's always what's the

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Speaker 6: next town to me, what's next on the next show,

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Speaker 6: what's the next man.

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Speaker 4: It's not like, hey, guys, this is pretty sick.

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Speaker 3: Right because I mean when when you guys first started out,

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Speaker 3: of course, there's some people critics out there that they're like, oh,

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Speaker 3: they're not gonna last this long, and they're not gonna

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Speaker 2: And now look at it.

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Speaker 3: Years later, you're still out here, You're selling out shows.

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Speaker 3: Some of the biggest names are in the company.

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Speaker 2: I mean, you're.

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Speaker 3: All over the place, and it's it's crazy and I

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Speaker 3: want to jump right into this because we're here to

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Speaker 3: talk about wrestle dream and you know, the last few weeks,

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Speaker 3: you guys have kind of had some issues with a

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Speaker 3: tag team that recently just got back together, Jurassic Express.

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Speaker 3: Uh for pro wrestling fans. Some fans are reading this

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Speaker 3: as more of just a storyline tension, maybe a statement

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Speaker 3: about where you are in aw right now, what's going

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Speaker 3: through your heads as this is all unfolding as we

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Speaker 3: are watching it on TV on social media.

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Speaker 5: Well, you know, it's been a roller coaster ever since

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Speaker 5: all In and our characters have been through a roller

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Speaker 5: coaster of emotions and uhs. Yeah, the highs and lows

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Speaker 5: of everything that we've been through. But you know what,

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Speaker 5: it has been a blast. It's been different, Uh, something

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Speaker 5: to sink our teeth in because we're doing the VP

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Speaker 5: complete opposite of what that was. But you know, I

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Speaker 5: think it's been fun. I feel like the fans are

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Speaker 6: It's it's it is challenging because you you, like, like

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Speaker 6: Nick just said, it's one extreme together, right, Like we're

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Speaker 6: flying in the private jets and writing the limos and

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Speaker 6: and and you know, wearing suits every week and having

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Speaker 5: But you know, that's one thing I don't miss those

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Speaker 2: That can get annoying.

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Speaker 5: Holy grat that gout is stressful. I don't know how

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Speaker 6: But here we are, you know, being humbled every week,

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Speaker 6: doing this yourself on TVs? This is so embarrassing.

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Speaker 4: Like like I'm like, I'm like, I know, buddy, but

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Speaker 5: This is part of the deal. And he's just like.

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Speaker 6: I just feel so bad for you and uncle Nick.

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Speaker 6: And I'm like, well, it means it's working, you know

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Speaker 6: what I mean. Our characters really had to, you know,

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Speaker 6: hit rock bottom in a way.

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Speaker 5: I don't even think we're at rock.

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Speaker 4: I don't think we are either. I think there's much

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Speaker 4: I think we do much lower.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, but uh, podcast, that's pretty much rock bottom.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this is the moment, right, that's the something.

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Speaker 5: Is trying to figure out what could make us look

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Speaker 6: I think in this business, a lot of the guys

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Speaker 6: want to look tough and look strong, and and we've

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Speaker 6: always kind of been the opposite, like we're like, how

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Speaker 4: How could we? Like?

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Speaker 6: We we know what this is and we know who

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Speaker 6: we are as characters and what I would like if

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Speaker 6: I was watching a movie and I saw these two degenerates,

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Speaker 6: I'd be like, I would really like to see them,

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Speaker 6: you know, slip and fall on a banana, biel and

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Speaker 6: do something or whatever. So we try to give the audience,

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Speaker 6: you know, what they want, and yeah, you know, the

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Speaker 6: human side of you sometimes is like I'm supposed to

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Speaker 6: be a wrestling star, Like that's how you're trained, like

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Speaker 6: be a star and get over and do all these things.

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Speaker 6: And we're like going that opposite directions where it's like,

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Speaker 6: you know what, we don't even need an entrance, right,

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Speaker 6: we don't we don't need this or that, and it

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Speaker 6: so it's been challenging.

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Speaker 4: It's been really fun though, because it's been something new, weird.

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Speaker 6: We've never ever done anything like this, you know, right,

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Speaker 6: So it's like, you know, you talk about sinking lower

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Speaker 6: and lower and lower than you know, a guy like

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Speaker 6: Jack Perry, who we you know, worked with for a

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Speaker 6: year last year, he comes back and turns his back

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Speaker 4: So it's like we don't even have any friends anymore.

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Speaker 6: Okana kind of quietly left field eat and he's in

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Speaker 6: the don Kells family now, like huh, Like we're all alone.

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Speaker 4: In this thing, right.

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Speaker 5: And the crazy thing is you could say, oh, yeah,

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Speaker 5: the young Bucks do deserve this.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and they deserve a little bit more.

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Speaker 6: And maybe because we maybe we did a lot of

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Speaker 5: And we were the most annoying version of the young

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Speaker 5: Bucks as possible. That we did that on purpose by

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Speaker 5: to make fans a little more angry with what we

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Speaker 6: Here's the thing with that, Like, so I feel like

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Speaker 6: when we did the EVP stuff, I loved all of

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Speaker 6: the backstage stuff and I loved all the skits we did.

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Speaker 6: We would interrupt, you know, like for example, one week,

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Speaker 6: of power like that stuff was the greatest. Like to me,

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Speaker 6: I thought it was like our best character work, like

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Speaker 6: on top of maybe maybe maybe a slight below what

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Speaker 6: we're doing this year. One thing that didn't work that

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Speaker 6: we noticed was we tried, like he just said, we

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Speaker 6: fans have seen us for so long twenty one years now,

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Speaker 6: they're they're used to seeing a certain quality of match,

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Speaker 6: you know, our high spots and our double team moves,

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Speaker 6: and we took all that away, and I think it

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Speaker 6: actually hurt our matches. And like halfway through the run

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Speaker 6: we understood that.

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Speaker 4: We said we need to pivot.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, which is cool because like even though at

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Speaker 7: the end of the day, it's twenty years in.

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Speaker 4: At that point and we got to change it up.

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Speaker 4: Though I'm glad we tried. It didn't work.

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Speaker 5: It's like the Rock doing this new movie that he

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Speaker 5: just did, like you have to do it right just

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Speaker 5: because you want to change things.

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Speaker 4: Yeah.

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Speaker 5: So so we went.

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Speaker 6: Back even with the volume up even higher, doing what

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Speaker 6: has got to be the craziest year we've ever had

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Speaker 6: as far as in ring matches going to eat.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, we went the complete opposite of what we did

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Speaker 5: last time. Well, all right, let's just do the craziest

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Speaker 5: matches that we can't physically it works. Sorry, everybody's like

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Speaker 5: more than any year I think I've ever had.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, I do have to say the EVP Rain contributed

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Speaker 7: to you guys's run of incredible gear. The founding Father's

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Speaker 4: That was just incredible. Thank you.

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Speaker 7: So you meant you hinted on the elite currently, and

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Speaker 7: you know in the Orbit we've got Kenny Omegoff kind

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Speaker 7: of doing his thing, We've got the world champion hang

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Speaker 7: Man doing his thing. You kind of mentioned Okata kind

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Speaker 7: of sort of with Don Kallis right now? Do you

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Speaker 5: That's an interesting question, great question, because right now it

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Speaker 5: feels like it is just the two of us, So

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Speaker 5: why even call it the elite at this point? Right?

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Speaker 4: You know what I mean?

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Speaker 5: I think that changes on a weekly basis. We would

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Speaker 5: doesn't feel like it fits the character that we're portraying,

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Speaker 5: like being the center of a group. I feel like

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Speaker 5: the two of us, just as the young Bucks, fits

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Speaker 5: better with what we're doing because we can't have Okata

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Speaker 5: not have an entferance.

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Speaker 4: He's cool, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 5: So that's where that's at at this moment. That could

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Speaker 6: But I think that there's always a chance to bring

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Speaker 6: it back. It is all Elite Wrestling, and I think

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Speaker 6: that it's in the DNA, and it would.

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Speaker 4: Be silly, you know, not to give the audience maybe

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Speaker 4: one last reunion run.

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Speaker 6: I'm not saying that's gonna happen, but it would be

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Speaker 6: I think silly to not do it before we call

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Speaker 6: it quits, before Kenny calls it quits, before Hangman calls

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Speaker 6: it quits, or you know whoever, or maybe it would

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Speaker 6: just be the original Elite, you know, the three. I

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Speaker 6: think that there's money in it, and I think it

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Speaker 6: would be ridiculous not to revisit it at least one

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Speaker 6: more time.

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Speaker 2: Yeah.

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Speaker 3: Absolutely, And I know I know a lot of fans,

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Speaker 3: including myself and Eli. We kind of got excited when

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Speaker 4: And then the next week we just don't feel inspired.

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Speaker 6: And that's why I think again, like we're being very

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Speaker 5: Yeah, because I was one hundred percent ever bringing it back.

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Speaker 6: The week, So yeah, but it has made a difference.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, well that's good to hear. I mean, something's better

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Speaker 7: it exactly. This is kind of very directly for you guys.

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Speaker 7: Since you guys are tag teams, how has aw elevated

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Speaker 4: Oh Man, softball question for you.

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Speaker 5: I feel like we're probably the premiere promotion that uses

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Speaker 5: So like that's one thing that we always wanted. That

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Speaker 5: it's cooking. It's crazy, like the kids say, it's cooking, right.

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Speaker 5: You know us, you can include us in there, hopefully

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Speaker 5: I don't sound copies the tag champs. Those guys are

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Speaker 5: Guys just grouped together and just motiving so perfectly together

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Speaker 4: You know, so there's this chemistry there.

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Speaker 6: So yeah, it's it feels like I said this earlier,

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Speaker 4: Like where one other.

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Speaker 6: Company are you allowed like to have that that platform

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Speaker 5: You know.

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Speaker 6: So, aw, if you go through our portfolio work here,

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Speaker 2: Yeah, for sure.

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Speaker 3: And I know the one thing because me and Eli

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Speaker 2: Now, that's gotta be a.

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Speaker 3: Cool thing to show that, Hey, you know what we've

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Speaker 5: I think it's just giving us the platform, honestly, like

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Speaker 4: Yeah, and then the division itself.

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Speaker 6: Not only are we having these great matches, but a

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Speaker 4: So it's not just some match that you have to

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Speaker 6: I think AW is good about taking the fans on

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Speaker 6: It's like, well, you don't always have to do that,

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Speaker 5: We broke up a TNA with that my year.

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Speaker 6: Yeah, So it's like, I think a lot of wrestling

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Speaker 6: It's like and I think for me and Nick, that's

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Speaker 4: So we've always been.

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Speaker 3: Together, absolutely for sure, and of course wrestled Dream this weekend.

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Speaker 3: Definitely if you're in the area, grab your tickets aew

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Speaker 4: I would love to have further discussions about it.

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Speaker 6: Nick and I have always talked about doing some type

443
00:20:00,400 --> 00:20:03,479
Speaker 6: of independent or something once our career wraps up with

444
00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,560
Speaker 6: with you know, mainstream wrestling like aw and we have

445
00:20:06,680 --> 00:20:08,800
Speaker 6: more time at home. I think that'd be something that

446
00:20:08,800 --> 00:20:12,600
Speaker 6: we'd definitely be interested in doing, because there, you know,

447
00:20:13,840 --> 00:20:15,520
Speaker 6: we love we love the business, and I think that

448
00:20:15,560 --> 00:20:18,080
Speaker 6: we were very creative guys, so it might be weird

449
00:20:18,119 --> 00:20:20,159
Speaker 6: to just sit at home and do nothing, So.

450
00:20:21,000 --> 00:20:22,920
Speaker 4: I think it'd be I think that's something that we've

451
00:20:22,960 --> 00:20:24,840
Speaker 4: never really gotten to. I mean, we've done it.

452
00:20:24,880 --> 00:20:27,159
Speaker 6: We used to run an independent way back when, but

453
00:20:27,200 --> 00:20:30,800
Speaker 6: I think now we're different, we're different people, We've we

454
00:20:30,840 --> 00:20:34,000
Speaker 6: have more experience. Now we actually have money that we

455
00:20:34,000 --> 00:20:35,840
Speaker 6: can put into the thing. Back then, it was like,

456
00:20:36,280 --> 00:20:38,240
Speaker 6: what was our budget, five hundred dollars.

457
00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,399
Speaker 4: So I think that it would It's definitely something that

458
00:20:42,480 --> 00:20:46,000
Speaker 4: will probably try out. I don't know when, maybe the

459
00:20:46,080 --> 00:20:48,640
Speaker 4: next few years. You specifically have talked about.

460
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Speaker 5: Yeah, I think it would be good for the independent scene,

461
00:20:52,920 --> 00:20:57,080
Speaker 5: especially southern California. Yeah, so Kell's kind of dried up

462
00:20:57,600 --> 00:21:01,000
Speaker 5: as of late, and usually that's like a hot bed.

463
00:21:01,200 --> 00:21:04,000
Speaker 5: So I feel like with our influence we could help

464
00:21:04,200 --> 00:21:07,600
Speaker 5: the the ndie scene around there. And I would love

465
00:21:07,640 --> 00:21:10,080
Speaker 5: to do something like that. I've always talked about doing

466
00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:13,600
Speaker 5: something like that, and who knows when, but it is

467
00:21:13,640 --> 00:21:14,680
Speaker 5: a pipe dream.

468
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Speaker 6: Maybe a couple of even whether it's we call it

469
00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:22,480
Speaker 6: PWG or you know, it's a whole different wrestling company name.

470
00:21:22,600 --> 00:21:25,560
Speaker 4: I think that we our goal would be to kind

471
00:21:25,560 --> 00:21:26,240
Speaker 4: of carry.

472
00:21:25,960 --> 00:21:28,800
Speaker 6: The torch of what PMG started and to have a

473
00:21:28,840 --> 00:21:31,080
Speaker 6: company that that that that falls into the spirit of

474
00:21:31,080 --> 00:21:33,280
Speaker 6: what Pro Wrestling Gorilla was for all those years, cause

475
00:21:33,280 --> 00:21:35,800
Speaker 6: I think there is an empty void in Southern California

476
00:21:35,960 --> 00:21:37,880
Speaker 6: independent wrestlerrate at that I think we can help fill.

477
00:21:38,600 --> 00:21:40,159
Speaker 4: Nice excellent answer.

478
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:44,000
Speaker 7: As far as your career goes legacy wise, what do

479
00:21:44,040 --> 00:21:46,800
Speaker 7: you think you guys have cemented and what's still unfinished

480
00:21:46,840 --> 00:21:48,960
Speaker 7: for you guys in your professional wrestling career.

481
00:21:49,680 --> 00:21:53,639
Speaker 5: Jeez, that's a tough, tough question.

482
00:21:54,520 --> 00:21:56,480
Speaker 4: May be hard to talk about yourself like that, but.

483
00:21:58,160 --> 00:22:00,560
Speaker 6: I think for me, it's like every show we go to,

484
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,480
Speaker 6: I'm like, all right, let's have another one.

485
00:22:03,560 --> 00:22:05,200
Speaker 4: Let's let's try to have the best one on the show.

486
00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:07,399
Speaker 6: And if you could still have that fire inside you

487
00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:09,520
Speaker 6: after twenty one years of doing this, that's pretty good.

488
00:22:10,600 --> 00:22:14,200
Speaker 6: We're still super competitive. If someone's out there is getting

489
00:22:14,200 --> 00:22:16,600
Speaker 6: buzz in the tag division and they're crushing it, I

490
00:22:16,680 --> 00:22:17,000
Speaker 6: kind of.

491
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,880
Speaker 4: Like give them a side on. I'm like, Okay, you're

492
00:22:18,920 --> 00:22:21,040
Speaker 4: all right, cool, you think you're good, And.

493
00:22:21,000 --> 00:22:22,720
Speaker 6: It motivates me to like want to get into better

494
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,640
Speaker 6: shape and to and to be the best.

495
00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:26,800
Speaker 4: I don't know what that is.

496
00:22:26,800 --> 00:22:28,800
Speaker 6: I don't know if that's just my competitive nature, and

497
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:29,920
Speaker 6: I know Nick shares that with.

498
00:22:29,840 --> 00:22:31,879
Speaker 4: Me, like we we want to be the best. We

499
00:22:31,880 --> 00:22:33,240
Speaker 4: want to have the best match on the show.

500
00:22:33,280 --> 00:22:36,880
Speaker 6: We like when people say, hey, that's the greatest tag

501
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:39,399
Speaker 6: team of all time? You know, is that is that

502
00:22:39,520 --> 00:22:42,040
Speaker 6: as far as wrestling legacy goes, that'd be cool. But

503
00:22:42,080 --> 00:22:44,119
Speaker 6: I think I think for us, I think that it

504
00:22:44,160 --> 00:22:45,240
Speaker 6: goes deeper than that too.

505
00:22:45,280 --> 00:22:46,440
Speaker 4: I think a lot of it.

506
00:22:46,240 --> 00:22:52,200
Speaker 6: Is most importantly, those are two great guys. They they're

507
00:22:52,200 --> 00:22:56,520
Speaker 6: family men. They were always straight with me. They were

508
00:22:56,560 --> 00:22:59,880
Speaker 6: cool backstays or easy to work with, always a joy,

509
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,760
Speaker 6: good for the morale. Like that's the more important stuff

510
00:23:02,800 --> 00:23:06,320
Speaker 6: probably as far as like how I feel like I, oh, personally,

511
00:23:06,359 --> 00:23:10,680
Speaker 6: if I've worked with you, you've enjoyed working with me, Yeah.

512
00:23:10,440 --> 00:23:13,520
Speaker 5: That's probably more important than being known as like the

513
00:23:13,560 --> 00:23:15,159
Speaker 5: Goats or whatever you would.

514
00:23:14,920 --> 00:23:16,479
Speaker 4: Like to call it. That's still pretty cool though, too.

515
00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:22,760
Speaker 5: Oh yeah, that'd be awesome. Early on in my career,

516
00:23:22,840 --> 00:23:26,600
Speaker 5: I've always told Matt, let's be the best entering tag

517
00:23:26,640 --> 00:23:29,200
Speaker 5: team of all time. That was like the goal probably

518
00:23:29,600 --> 00:23:32,080
Speaker 5: ten and fifteen years ago. Let's be known as that.

519
00:23:32,480 --> 00:23:36,080
Speaker 5: I don't know if that's the goal anymore and changes, Yeah,

520
00:23:36,119 --> 00:23:38,520
Speaker 5: it kind of changes year by a year. But like

521
00:23:38,680 --> 00:23:41,520
Speaker 5: Matt said, the more important things would be, like man

522
00:23:41,720 --> 00:23:43,800
Speaker 5: the young Bucks were such good human beings.

523
00:23:44,160 --> 00:23:46,640
Speaker 6: They're good dudes. They they're family men. They got out

524
00:23:47,440 --> 00:23:52,560
Speaker 6: in one piece, you know, healthy, happy, and I.

525
00:23:52,480 --> 00:23:54,800
Speaker 5: Hope people about what happened to them. They disappeared.

526
00:23:55,800 --> 00:23:57,440
Speaker 4: I heard Matt lives on an island.

527
00:23:57,480 --> 00:23:59,920
Speaker 6: He has a giant beard now and he doesn't speak

528
00:23:59,920 --> 00:24:00,639
Speaker 6: to anyone anymore.

529
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:01,840
Speaker 4: He doesn't even do conventions.

530
00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:03,879
Speaker 6: That's like the fantasy, right, Like you kind of just

531
00:24:04,200 --> 00:24:07,440
Speaker 6: disappear quietly into the night, and and everybody's.

532
00:24:06,960 --> 00:24:08,680
Speaker 4: Just like, whatever happened to those guys? They were just

533
00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:12,359
Speaker 4: so cool? You know, I don't know. I think the

534
00:24:12,400 --> 00:24:15,680
Speaker 4: goal is just to keep having fun. Yep. And you know,

535
00:24:15,720 --> 00:24:17,600
Speaker 4: because you go, you've won this many titles, you've had

536
00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:19,159
Speaker 4: these many matches, these many guys.

537
00:24:19,440 --> 00:24:21,439
Speaker 6: Obviously there's little there's little things you want to check

538
00:24:21,440 --> 00:24:23,040
Speaker 6: off your bucket list before you wrap it up.

539
00:24:23,920 --> 00:24:26,360
Speaker 5: One thing I would say would be like we wrestled

540
00:24:26,359 --> 00:24:28,400
Speaker 5: like it was our last match every single time.

541
00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:29,119
Speaker 4: Yeah.

542
00:24:30,119 --> 00:24:32,800
Speaker 5: If you see that on the screen and it shows

543
00:24:32,840 --> 00:24:34,160
Speaker 5: then that that's pretty cool.

544
00:24:34,280 --> 00:24:36,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, absolutely.

545
00:24:36,280 --> 00:24:38,920
Speaker 3: And I gotta tell you, as a family man myself,

546
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:41,400
Speaker 3: I've got two kids, my youngest, my oldest kid.

547
00:24:41,440 --> 00:24:42,959
Speaker 2: He's he doesn't care about wrestling more.

548
00:24:42,960 --> 00:24:44,800
Speaker 3: He's more concerned about his girlfriend and his truck and

549
00:24:44,800 --> 00:24:47,560
Speaker 3: everything else. But my eight year old he's all into wrestling,

550
00:24:47,640 --> 00:24:50,720
Speaker 3: and so uh he every time you guys are in town,

551
00:24:50,760 --> 00:24:53,800
Speaker 3: he always goes with me. And his first in person

552
00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,639
Speaker 3: Young Bucks match that he ever saw was Blood and

553
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:57,840
Speaker 3: Guts here in Nashville.

554
00:24:57,920 --> 00:24:59,160
Speaker 5: Oh boy.

555
00:25:00,840 --> 00:25:04,280
Speaker 3: And so having to explain to my wife a couple

556
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:07,119
Speaker 3: of days later, why is why is our son putting

557
00:25:07,160 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 3: thumbtacks on the bottom of his shoe?

558
00:25:09,760 --> 00:25:11,840
Speaker 2: I had to try to explain that to her.

559
00:25:11,920 --> 00:25:13,800
Speaker 5: Oh God, bless you.

560
00:25:13,920 --> 00:25:17,240
Speaker 3: But it just goes to show that that wrestling is

561
00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,560
Speaker 3: such a great thing and it's influencing kids whether they

562
00:25:19,560 --> 00:25:20,600
Speaker 3: want to put thumb tacks on their.

563
00:25:20,520 --> 00:25:21,040
Speaker 2: Shoes or not.

564
00:25:21,440 --> 00:25:25,359
Speaker 3: But speaking of the thumbtacks on shoes, whose idea was it?

565
00:25:25,520 --> 00:25:27,800
Speaker 3: Also the fact that you put them on Travis Scott's

566
00:25:27,800 --> 00:25:29,240
Speaker 3: and some really expensive shoes.

567
00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 2: As I'm a shoe guy myself, whose idea was that?

568
00:25:33,560 --> 00:25:36,600
Speaker 4: Yeah? So I really did it at P two BG,

569
00:25:37,320 --> 00:25:38,840
Speaker 4: and I might have done it on like a pair

570
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,399
Speaker 4: of cheaper like Nikes like air Force oness. I couldn't

571
00:25:41,400 --> 00:25:42,280
Speaker 4: remember what it worked.

572
00:25:42,320 --> 00:25:44,800
Speaker 5: I think they're antals No, they're nikes.

573
00:25:45,320 --> 00:25:47,720
Speaker 4: They're brown nikes with I just looked at them recently there.

574
00:25:48,200 --> 00:25:49,840
Speaker 6: I think they were like cheap ones that I probably

575
00:25:49,880 --> 00:25:53,760
Speaker 6: found it ross or something, though, I don't know, Like

576
00:25:53,800 --> 00:25:55,720
Speaker 6: I'm like, how do you make a super kick hardcore?

577
00:25:55,720 --> 00:25:57,120
Speaker 4: I remember thinking of that, like what if I put

578
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:58,520
Speaker 4: thumb tacks on the bottom of how did I get

579
00:25:58,560 --> 00:26:00,320
Speaker 4: him there? Oh? I can grilla glue them to there

580
00:26:00,320 --> 00:26:01,840
Speaker 4: with you know, super glue. Uh.

581
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:04,159
Speaker 6: And it was it was a spot that you know,

582
00:26:04,520 --> 00:26:07,760
Speaker 6: became pretty viral on the Internet, and I know it

583
00:26:07,840 --> 00:26:09,040
Speaker 6: was just a matter of time. I knew I was

584
00:26:09,040 --> 00:26:11,800
Speaker 6: going to bring it back, and uh, I feel like

585
00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,040
Speaker 6: that cage match at all out that was like I

586
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:15,800
Speaker 6: remember telling Nick, I think tonight and n I'd be

587
00:26:15,800 --> 00:26:19,160
Speaker 6: pulled the trigger on this thing again. And uh yeah,

588
00:26:19,240 --> 00:26:20,840
Speaker 6: the fact that it was that Travis Scott, I think

589
00:26:20,880 --> 00:26:22,879
Speaker 6: really helped it kind of move through the internet a

590
00:26:22,920 --> 00:26:24,679
Speaker 6: little bit, probably go a little bit more viral than

591
00:26:24,680 --> 00:26:25,920
Speaker 6: what it what have otherwise.

592
00:26:26,760 --> 00:26:28,359
Speaker 4: But yeah, that was my brilliant idea.

593
00:26:28,560 --> 00:26:31,720
Speaker 5: Now it's a reoccurring spot for when we need to

594
00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:32,960
Speaker 5: pull out something crazy.

595
00:26:33,320 --> 00:26:35,720
Speaker 4: Yeah, but I feel like it's really.

596
00:26:35,520 --> 00:26:38,040
Speaker 6: Inspired a lot of people to just start gluing tax

597
00:26:38,119 --> 00:26:40,720
Speaker 6: on the things like we've seen Darby with the skateboard,

598
00:26:40,840 --> 00:26:43,760
Speaker 6: and we've seen people do it with their elbow and eat.

599
00:26:43,600 --> 00:26:47,240
Speaker 4: Pads and stuff. So if that's one trend I said that,

600
00:26:47,440 --> 00:26:49,040
Speaker 4: I'm very I'm very happy with that.

601
00:26:49,840 --> 00:26:52,080
Speaker 3: Well, it's obviously a trend that's catching on with my

602
00:26:52,119 --> 00:26:53,920
Speaker 3: eight year old, So I will explain to my wife

603
00:26:53,960 --> 00:26:56,119
Speaker 3: about why and where he learned that from, and I

604
00:26:56,119 --> 00:26:57,159
Speaker 3: will point to you guys.

605
00:26:57,600 --> 00:26:59,320
Speaker 2: Uh it's I gotta tell you, man.

606
00:26:59,359 --> 00:27:01,840
Speaker 3: It such an honor and a privilege to have you

607
00:27:01,880 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 3: guys back here on the show. I know you got

608
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 3: a lot of other things to get ready for, especially

609
00:27:05,840 --> 00:27:07,720
Speaker 3: with Wrestle Dream this weekend.

610
00:27:08,160 --> 00:27:09,040
Speaker 2: Before we let you go.

611
00:27:09,160 --> 00:27:10,920
Speaker 3: Is there anything you want to say to the fans

612
00:27:11,000 --> 00:27:12,560
Speaker 3: watching or listening to this right now?

613
00:27:13,640 --> 00:27:18,840
Speaker 5: Well, just thanks for the continued support for making AEW

614
00:27:18,880 --> 00:27:21,960
Speaker 5: what it is today. Because we have the most hardcore

615
00:27:22,080 --> 00:27:24,879
Speaker 5: fans that I think I've ever seen in our twenty

616
00:27:24,920 --> 00:27:29,520
Speaker 5: one years of wrestling. The AEW fandom is growing and

617
00:27:30,240 --> 00:27:32,919
Speaker 5: they continue to support. They buy every single pay per

618
00:27:33,000 --> 00:27:35,480
Speaker 5: view and we know it and we love it, and

619
00:27:35,520 --> 00:27:39,719
Speaker 5: that's why us wrestlers go crazy every single pay per

620
00:27:39,800 --> 00:27:40,880
Speaker 5: view and every single night.

621
00:27:41,119 --> 00:27:45,000
Speaker 6: So yeah, and our young Buck fans specifically, like they

622
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:47,480
Speaker 6: the ones who have been you know, through it all

623
00:27:47,520 --> 00:27:49,119
Speaker 6: with us, the ups and the downs, the highs and

624
00:27:49,160 --> 00:27:53,560
Speaker 6: the lows, been so supportive to be watching and cheering

625
00:27:53,720 --> 00:27:56,600
Speaker 6: or booing or whatever you do, but just to support

626
00:27:56,640 --> 00:27:58,960
Speaker 6: what we do all these years later, it means the world.

627
00:27:59,440 --> 00:28:03,600
Speaker 6: It doesn't go unnoticed, so appreciative. So so many Sweetheart

628
00:28:03,600 --> 00:28:05,359
Speaker 6: fans out there, and I don't think we get out

629
00:28:05,359 --> 00:28:06,920
Speaker 6: there and get just meet them and see them enough

630
00:28:06,960 --> 00:28:08,520
Speaker 6: like we used to when we were doing you know,

631
00:28:08,560 --> 00:28:10,840
Speaker 6: these meet greets every week. But we did one recently

632
00:28:10,880 --> 00:28:12,960
Speaker 6: and it was really nice because I think I.

633
00:28:12,880 --> 00:28:16,440
Speaker 7: Saw that Yeah, yeah, it.

634
00:28:16,400 --> 00:28:19,359
Speaker 6: May have been a forced beat greet, but no, it was.

635
00:28:19,400 --> 00:28:21,639
Speaker 6: It was cool though, because we don't get to do

636
00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 6: that very often. So it's a nice reminder that there

637
00:28:23,560 --> 00:28:24,920
Speaker 6: are a lot of people out there that do love

638
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 6: us and and you know, enjoy our work. And and

639
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:31,960
Speaker 6: again like bringing back the bet content, it's been really

640
00:28:31,960 --> 00:28:34,080
Speaker 6: fun to see the reaction for that. It's been got

641
00:28:34,240 --> 00:28:37,919
Speaker 6: ninety nine point five percent positive and uh and this

642
00:28:38,000 --> 00:28:40,840
Speaker 6: is this could be a very tribalistic business and industry

643
00:28:41,040 --> 00:28:42,880
Speaker 6: and all you do see is.

644
00:28:42,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 4: A lot of negative.

645
00:28:43,640 --> 00:28:47,160
Speaker 6: But uh, you know, if you create these little communities

646
00:28:47,200 --> 00:28:49,680
Speaker 6: like a BTE community, it's it's almost like its own

647
00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:50,880
Speaker 6: little positive neighborhood.

648
00:28:50,920 --> 00:28:54,000
Speaker 4: It's like, oh, like everyone here is really nice. Like

649
00:28:54,080 --> 00:28:55,400
Speaker 4: maybe this is the real.

650
00:28:55,200 --> 00:28:56,880
Speaker 6: World, you know, because you get out there, do you

651
00:28:56,920 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 6: go on something like like you know, Twitter or something,

652
00:29:00,720 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 6: and it could.

653
00:29:01,120 --> 00:29:03,080
Speaker 4: Be really nasty on there, you know, or even in

654
00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:07,320
Speaker 4: the Instagram comments. So it's like I have seen a

655
00:29:07,320 --> 00:29:08,600
Speaker 4: lot more positive lately.

656
00:29:08,640 --> 00:29:11,880
Speaker 6: Maybe I've trained my mind to just try to see

657
00:29:11,880 --> 00:29:14,320
Speaker 6: the good again and I've seen a lot of it.

658
00:29:14,400 --> 00:29:17,200
Speaker 6: And I just wanted to say thanks to those people

659
00:29:17,280 --> 00:29:18,280
Speaker 6: because it means the.

660
00:29:18,200 --> 00:29:22,480
Speaker 3: World absolutely well, the Young Bucks, the Goats of Tag

661
00:29:22,560 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 3: Team Wrestling again, thank you so much for coming on

662
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:27,480
Speaker 3: the show today. And it's an honor and a privilege.

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Speaker 3: And when you roll through Nashville, we'll have to get

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Speaker 3: you in the studio.

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Speaker 4: That was good man. Thanks guys, thank you,