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Speaker 1: NFL Covers Zero with Matt Jones and Drew Franklin is

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Speaker 1: a production of the NFL and iHeart podcast. Welcome everyone

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Speaker 1: in the NFL Cover zero podcast. Going into Week thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I'm Matt Jones. It's Thanksgiving Week. Drew Franklin's with me

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Speaker 1: and Billy are sports. It is the week where football

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Speaker 1: of all sorts, pro college, college basketball. There's just sports

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Speaker 1: on from the moment you get up until the moment

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Speaker 1: you go to bed, from now until Sunday, and of

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Speaker 1: course we'll focus on the NFL side of it. Is

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving Week, Drew. I enjoy this week. I feel like

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Speaker 1: in some ways this is, you know, this is the

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Speaker 1: most festive time in and from a football standpoint, I

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Speaker 1: think this is probably the time you could actually watch

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Speaker 1: the most games you can get three Thursday. There's the

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Speaker 1: game on Friday, which is actually really really good this year,

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Speaker 1: and then all the games on Sunday and Monday. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: And you know, I grew up in a Cowboys family,

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Speaker 2: so it's always been football over Turkey since I've been little.

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Speaker 2: But now they've been adding more games over time. They

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Speaker 2: got that Black Friday game that includes your team. I

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Speaker 2: love NFL adding new days each season, getting more around Christmas.

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Speaker 2: Just it's not strictly Sundays and then the Thanksgiving Day anymore,

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Speaker 2: Like just throw it anywhere, put it on all the holidays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, do you like I mean with the Cowboys, I

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Speaker 1: know they're kind of your secondary team, they're your wife's team.

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Speaker 1: Do you like that they always play on Thanksgiving? That

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Speaker 1: that's like a part of your sort of family tradition.

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Speaker 1: You have to be there, and the Cowboys always at

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Speaker 1: the late game. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: I picked up the Titans later in life, but when

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Speaker 2: I was young, I mean aunt's uncles, cousins, grandparents who

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Speaker 2: was Cowboys. We like wear Cowboys sweatshirts to Thanksgiving dinner

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Speaker 2: every year. So I have fond memories going back to

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Speaker 2: when I was a little kid watching the Cowboys every Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 2: Like I said, the food was always a second part

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Speaker 2: of the day. It was almost a Cowboys party as

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Speaker 2: much as it was the feast.

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Speaker 1: I always, I mean, the Cowboys is the main event Thanksgiving.

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Speaker 1: Team makes sense, But I've never really understood the Lions

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Speaker 1: part of it. Like the Lions, I mean, now they're good,

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Speaker 1: but they were awful for years and I always found

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Speaker 1: that interesting that they were one of them. I'm sure

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Speaker 1: it goes back to some sort of tradition.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, the owner that moved them from Ohio to Detroit

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Speaker 2: when they became the Lions, look for ways to market

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Speaker 2: them and got NBC to pick them up on Thanksgiving,

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Speaker 2: So you.

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Speaker 1: Go, you're an innovative owner. Whatever that game, they probably

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Speaker 1: just said, I bet he was a Ford. I don't know,

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Speaker 1: but I'm I'm just gonna guess anything in Detroit is

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Speaker 1: ultimately a Ford. So I'm going to say that's what

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Speaker 1: it is. Well, you know, you look at the games

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Speaker 1: this year. This is like one of the better slates, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that I think we've ever had on on Thanksgiving. I mean,

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Speaker 1: for years Detroit wasn't good. You get Packers, Lions, Chiefs, Cowboys,

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Speaker 1: Bengals with Joe Burrow returning against the Ravens, and then

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Speaker 1: Friday Bears Eagles. I mean, that's a heck of a

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Speaker 1: that's a heck of a run of games. It actually

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Speaker 1: makes Sunday Slate kind of not great because how good

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Speaker 2: Yeah, and like you said, for many years of the Lions,

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Speaker 2: I guess you had the Barry Sanders run where he'd

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Speaker 2: be fun to watch for.

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Speaker 1: Just see be the only time of the year I'd

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Speaker 1: ever see Barry Sanders. It's literally the only time. He

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Speaker 1: only existed in my mind on Thanksgiving, and then when

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Speaker 1: he retired early, it wasn't a lot of reason to

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Speaker 1: get up. Johnson might take one crazy catch a year,

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Speaker 1: but really, like people, you know, younger people, now you

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Speaker 1: you know what do they call it? Sunday ticket? You

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Speaker 1: have the highlights. If you lived in my day, the

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Speaker 1: Lions weren't good enough to ever be on Monday night football,

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Speaker 1: and they weren't good enough to be in a feature game,

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Speaker 1: so you really didn't know they existed except for on Thursdays.

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Speaker 2: And always found it impressive, like Thanksgiving years of a family.

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Speaker 2: The Lions will sell that place out, whether they're good

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Speaker 1: Going to My mom always says the same thing, and

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Speaker 2: Maybe they all come back to Detroit. They tellgate like

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Speaker 2: they look forward to that, just like your mom probably

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Speaker 1: Mom, I's not going, I can go ahead and tell you,

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Speaker 1: but I am going, and I'm looking forward to it,

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Speaker 1: and I'm looking forward to these games. We talked about

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Speaker 1: all the games on Sunday. I guess the only thing

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Speaker 1: and the forty nine Ers. That was one of the

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Speaker 1: worst games I've ever seen. Brought Party throws three interceptions

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Speaker 1: I think says everything you needed to know about the game.

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Speaker 2: You had that Bryce Young is just getting crushed for

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Speaker 2: He could have walked in and gotten a touchdown, but

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Speaker 2: instead throws an interception into traffic. There's that screenshot clip

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Speaker 2: where it's like dude, just just run it in.

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Speaker 1: You're there. But he threw the bad pick and the

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Speaker 1: goal line. Just an ugly game Monday night. You know,

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Speaker 1: when you saw forty nine Ers Panthers at the beginning

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Speaker 1: of the year, you probably thought that's what it would be,

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Speaker 1: and then over the course of the season you talked

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Speaker 1: yourself into Okay, maybe that's a good game. No, it

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Speaker 2: The fireworks were after the game, honestly, not even the

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Speaker 1: What do you think of that? You can't do that?

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Speaker 1: Are you a lot?

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Speaker 2: But it was a pretty good uppercut. We've been debating spitting.

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Speaker 2: The shot to the crosh is worse than spitting. I'm

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Speaker 2: putting that above spitting.

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Speaker 1: Oh you you think it's more disrespectable to hit someone

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Speaker 2: That's that was intentional. He sized him up, he found

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Speaker 2: his target and went full uppercut. I completely get why

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Speaker 2: he skitting was the worst thing that could ever happen.

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Speaker 2: Now we have something worse.

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Speaker 1: Take away his guys, let's let's roll it in. Let's

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Speaker 1: let's we've had multiple spinning incidents now this now, come on, guys,

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Speaker 1: it's the holidays. That's coming to WWE. I was excited

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Speaker 1: because I discovered last night for my first time, the uh,

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Speaker 1: the Carolina Mike guy, the you know the if you

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Speaker 1: have one hundred fifth? Do we have that?

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Speaker 3: Hey?

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Speaker 1: Can you play it one hundred?

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Speaker 1: I can play it? Okay. So for people don't know,

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Speaker 1: this is a guy who is in Carolina.

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Speaker 2: I think he's actually in Minnesota, but has a Carolina

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Speaker 2: man cave in Minnesota.

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Speaker 1: She's a Carolina Panthers fan stuck in Minnesota. Yes, which

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Speaker 1: is he has to be one of one like he does.

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Speaker 1: There's not a lot of watch parties for him, wouldn't

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Speaker 1: you think. I think that's why every time we see him,

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Speaker 1: he's in his basement. No one else is in the

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Speaker 1: basement else there. He's also you said he's in accountant. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he's got some regular day job, but just diehard super

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Speaker 1: fan at night for the Panthers of all time. That's

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Speaker 1: so great and his If you haven't seen the video,

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Speaker 1: look up Carolina Mike. The reason I founder is they

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Speaker 1: played this on the Maning Cast. Luke Combs of all

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Speaker 1: people said, I love this guy, and if you watch

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Speaker 1: the Maning Cast video of it, Luke is dancing like

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Speaker 1: he's a fifteen year old girl a Taylor Swift concert

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Speaker 1: when he's singing, and I'm kind of like that too.

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Speaker 1: We have to play it because I love it. So

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Speaker 1: this is Carolina Bike on the Panthers. Y'all got a question?

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Speaker 4: You're ready to support these Carol out of Panthers as

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Speaker 4: they keep pounding against these Green Bay packers.

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Speaker 1: Yeah?

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Speaker 4: Also, if I had one hundred fifty thousand dollars very.

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Speaker 1: Similar, what I would do?

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Speaker 4: Y'all?

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Speaker 1: What would you do?

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Speaker 4: Spend one hundred thousand on a football team? Wait a minute,

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Speaker 4: that's not enough to buy a team. Spend one hundred

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Speaker 1: Wait? What? Minnesota? Is so too much?

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Speaker 4: Me a tennis car outside of my house? But that

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Speaker 4: at waits going to make me tear every down. Just

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Speaker 4: Mike in a tiny home inste I get to resisting

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Speaker 4: nine and I'm gonna eat them all up. Might get

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Speaker 4: me a plane and buy a Spain except I don't

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Speaker 4: even know how to buy.

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Speaker 3: Like, I'm gonna get.

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Speaker 4: Me a big old bus, one bigger number. All of

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Speaker 4: us to double dutch get and chased by Tuck of

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Speaker 4: the cruise around windows down town years.

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Speaker 1: Now, I could analyze these lyrics all.

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Speaker 3: That one hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 1: That's everything I like about this song is that he's

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Speaker 1: a contrarian, right, everything he says. He then gives the

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Speaker 1: fifty thousand, i'd buy a football team. And no, wait

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Speaker 1: a minute, that's not enough to buy a teeth. He

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Speaker 1: recognizes this is what I want to do with it,

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Speaker 1: not able to. Then he says, you know what, all right, fine,

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Speaker 1: I'll buy a tricked out porch, a Porsche. But here's

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Speaker 1: the problem. I live in Minnesota, snows all the time.

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Speaker 1: Can't do that. I don't buy tennis corked that'd be great.

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Speaker 1: Oh wait, my hoa will not let me put up

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Speaker 1: a tennis court first. Not many songs that have hoa, no, no, no.

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Speaker 2: I like it's almost like he's budgeting and brainstorming in

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Speaker 2: his brain. We're here in his thought process for what

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Speaker 1: Here we are, and he's like, okay, fine, I'll fly

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Speaker 1: playing to Spain. Oh wait a minute, I can't even fly.

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Speaker 1: Why I can't do that? I can't do that? So

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Speaker 1: I do like the guys like he's just going through

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Speaker 1: all the possibilities, but he knows in the end he's

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Speaker 1: with one hundred and fifty thousand.

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Speaker 2: You mentioned Luke Comb's big Panthers fan loves him, but

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Speaker 2: I think Panthers fans they've just completely embraced him. He

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Speaker 2: performed at the game, and they were at the game.

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Speaker 2: There were players on the sideline singing. It wasn't just

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Speaker 2: other fans, some of the.

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Speaker 1: Players that really yeah, well, where y'all mix stepped away?

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Speaker 1: He has filled that void for the Panthers. Who would

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Speaker 1: have thought the best celebrity fans of twenty twenty five

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Speaker 1: would be for the Carolina Panthers. I mean, that's an

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Speaker 1: now had Carolina Mike. I'm I'm in now. I went

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Speaker 1: to his account and it's Carolina Mike on TikTok. He's

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Speaker 1: Ask your question about billy white shoes Johnson, Yeah, doesn't

432
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Speaker 1: everybody wear white shoes?

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Speaker 4: Well?

434
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Speaker 1: You know my cause my cleats just happened, so we

435
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Speaker 1: saw a lot of it. But I'm just saying, like

436
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Speaker 1: was it. I feel like if I'm thinking about cleats,

437
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Speaker 1: I kind of think about white So why was he?

438
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Speaker 1: Why isn't everyone white shoes? Why isn't it like Joe

439
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Speaker 1: white Sho's name. That's a good question. I mean, why

440
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Speaker 1: did he get or was he the first guy to

441
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Speaker 1: do it? Did he make it to where we all

442
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Speaker 1: wear white shoes? Now? What did everybody wear before? I'm

443
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Speaker 1: not sure, but he did the touchdown dance that emphasized.

444
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Speaker 1: They didn't call him Billy touchdown Johnson. They called him

445
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Speaker 1: Billy white shoes jacks. And I think that was the

446
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Speaker 1: funky chicken. They don't call him funky check. They don't

447
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Speaker 1: call him funky chicken.

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Speaker 5: Billy Well, that could have been it too, but they

449
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Speaker 5: were looking at his white shoes while he was doing that.

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Speaker 1: Okay, but there, I don't know. That's just a weird

451
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Speaker 1: thing to call someone. It would be like a baseball

452
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Speaker 1: stadium going Aaron baseball cap judge. Yeah, but so was

453
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Speaker 1: everyone else? Yeah? Uh the Internet.

454
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Speaker 2: I googled it quickly on the flys that his high

455
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Speaker 2: school team wore black shoes and he wore white ones.

456
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Speaker 1: So it started in high school. Oh so in high

457
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Speaker 1: school he was wearing different than the other team. When

458
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Speaker 1: he got to the pros, do you think his teammates

459
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Speaker 1: were ever like, well, we're wearing white shoes too, dude,

460
00:21:05,493 --> 00:21:08,052
Speaker 1: maybe he started a trend. Don't act like I don't

461
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Speaker 1: hear the first person that ever came up with this.

462
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Speaker 1: All right, what were we talking about? Kicker turner turners

463
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Speaker 1: returners are you Are you excited about having that guy

464
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Speaker 1: on the team. Yeah, he's a rookie. Cam Ward's a rookie.

465
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Speaker 1: Cam hadn't thrown a pick in like three or four weeks.

466
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Speaker 1: We've covered three straight games. I still want the number

467
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Speaker 1: one pick. I don't want us to get too good

468
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Speaker 1: right now. It's us. I think they have two wins.

469
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Speaker 1: I think we're the only one win team.

470
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Speaker 3: You only have one.

471
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Speaker 1: You don't want to win that.

472
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Speaker 2: No, I didn't want to beat the Cardinals, but I

473
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Speaker 2: do like DK and cam warden as as something to

474
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Speaker 2: build it.

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Speaker 1: Do you need a quarterback? Although I don't know if

476
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Speaker 1: a quarterback is gonna go number one, probably won't. No, No,

477
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Speaker 1: we don't need quarterback. I honestly I don't know this

478
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Speaker 1: draft class very well yet. But if they wanted to

479
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Speaker 1: trade it and load up, who needs so much help?

480
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Speaker 1: Let's see who's projected at the top of it. I

481
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Speaker 1: honestly have absolutely.

482
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Speaker 5: I think it's like three Ohio State players are the

483
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Speaker 5: first four picks in one of I.

484
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Speaker 1: What do you mean one of yours? You don't have.

485
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Speaker 1: You don't have the modern t like dot's not act like. Well,

486
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Speaker 1: remember the NFL dot com has I'm I'm a hero

487
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Speaker 1: one now right now they have well this must be

488
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Speaker 1: old because they have the Jets projected isn't in one pick? No,

489
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Speaker 1: they do right now via projected trade with your type. Yeah,

490
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Speaker 1: honestly they should trade it. They need so much help. Okay,

491
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Speaker 1: just after Francis Fernando Mendoza going number one, we don't

492
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Speaker 1: need that good. Their number two would be Dante more

493
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Speaker 1: But they really are picking quarterbacks. Let's see where they

494
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Speaker 1: have you going. There. They have you taking Jordan Tyson,

495
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Speaker 1: wide receiver Arizona State.

496
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Speaker 2: We need wide receivers, quarterbacks and a pass rusher on

497
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Speaker 2: the edge are three huge needs.

498
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Speaker 1: The first non quarterbacks are Francis my Mayugoa from Miami,

499
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Speaker 1: Jordan Tyson, three quarterbacks in top five, r Vel Reese,

500
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Speaker 1: Ohio State linebacker that you Ruben bain Edge from Miami,

501
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Speaker 1: and then Kendrick falk Edge from Auburn. I really just

502
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Speaker 1: I haven't heard of these people. I'm sure they're wonderful humans.

503
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Speaker 2: It's funny here in the Times projected to get a

504
00:23:06,933 --> 00:23:09,612
Speaker 2: top receiver because Titans have always wanted a top receiver,

505
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Speaker 2: and when we finally get aj Brown, they just.

506
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Speaker 1: Let him go for nothing. Yeah, well we got that

507
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Speaker 1: to look forward to. We get to go to the

508
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Speaker 1: draft this year. By where is it Is it in? Uh?

509
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Speaker 2: Somewhere we get to go? I think is it in?

510
00:23:23,733 --> 00:23:26,173
Speaker 2: It's like Cleveland or something that's not that. It's not

511
00:23:26,253 --> 00:23:28,813
Speaker 2: Vegas or one of the fun ones and maybe not clear.

512
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Speaker 1: You tell me I have to go to Cleveland. Pittsburgh.

513
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Speaker 1: Be good, it's a little better. It one like Vegas. Somewhere.

514
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Speaker 1: Exit Pittsburgh, Let's go. I actually don't know if we're going.

515
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Speaker 1: I'm just acting as if we're going. I mean, we

516
00:23:42,613 --> 00:23:44,893
Speaker 1: could go. They can't stop us. They're not like fans

517
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Speaker 1: from going. I mean, he's got an NFL hat in

518
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Speaker 1: the north. If you do that, all right? What's next?

519
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Speaker 5: Speaking of the Steelers, I saw this stat and thought

520
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Speaker 5: it was interesting. George Pickens has been great for the

521
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Speaker 5: Cowboys this year. He has one thousand and fifty four

522
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Speaker 5: receiving yards on the season. All Steelers receivers combined have

523
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Speaker 5: only one thousand and eighty two receiving that's about year.

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Speaker 1: Was that one of the best trades of all time?

525
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Speaker 1: I mean they gave what you all gave the Cowboys

526
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Speaker 1: a third round pick for that guy, and he's now

527
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Speaker 1: he's wide receiver one. Right, he has CD, he's out

528
00:24:17,733 --> 00:24:20,372
Speaker 1: playing CD Lamb. I mean, the Steelers are done with him.

529
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Speaker 2: He had some attitude problems, wasn't really performing living up

530
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Speaker 2: to the hype, and I don't know what got into

531
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Speaker 2: him in Dallas. Maybe he realized, you know, he needed

532
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Speaker 2: to step it up and play the way he's expected.

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Speaker 1: He's been awesome. I mean, there's one hundred and fifty

534
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Speaker 1: yards in a touchdown last two games. So there's usually

535
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Speaker 1: people who say, well, if he's if he's a problem

536
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Speaker 1: in Pittsburgh, then he's certainly going to be a problem

537
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Speaker 1: somewhere else. But in this case, that's not been the case.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he's been unbelievable. That stat is amazing, more

539
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Speaker 1: receiving yards than than the whole Pittsburgh wide receivers act under. Yeah,

540
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Speaker 1: just under And that's with you know, Aaron Rodgers k Metal.

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Speaker 1: I mean, Pickens is out playing DK, who they wentn't

542
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Speaker 1: got that's that's pretty amazing. I'll give you another amazing stat, Matt.

543
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Speaker 5: Christian McCaffrey leads the NFL in receptions this year with

544
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Speaker 5: eighty one.

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Speaker 1: I feel like, though doesn't he he's if he leads,

546
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Speaker 1: but he gets when he's not healthy. He gets a

547
00:25:09,173 --> 00:25:11,533
Speaker 1: crazy number of exceptions every year because they's dumping off

548
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Speaker 1: to him. I think he had nine touches on the

549
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Speaker 1: first drive of the game last night Verus Care. We

550
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Speaker 1: have something like a few years back, everybody goes there's

551
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Speaker 1: just too much offense in the NFL, and now it

552
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Speaker 1: feels like, at least when it goes to throwing down

553
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Speaker 1: field with the exception of Jackson Smith and Jig, but

554
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Speaker 1: it feels like there hasn't been as much of that

555
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Speaker 1: and that you're seeing a lot more kind of Christian

556
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Speaker 1: McCaffrey as stats.

557
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Speaker 2: Yeah, it always corrects itself. And I saw McCaffrey. He's

558
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Speaker 2: like the first player to have a thousand rushing thousand

559
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Speaker 2: receiving in a couple of straight years. Like, I'm pretty

560
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Speaker 2: rare to do that, but there's some stat where he's

561
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Speaker 2: one of the first to do thousand receiving, thousand rushing.

562
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Speaker 2: I mean his anytime. Touchdown odds Monday night was minus

563
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Speaker 2: three fifty. That's no crazy, really score touchdown in the NFL.

564
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Speaker 2: He score, Yes, I mean just the minus creep gifty.

565
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Speaker 2: I've never I've watched touchdown bets closely. I've never seen

566
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Speaker 2: minus three fifty. Not even Jonathan Taylor this year, I don't.

567
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Speaker 1: I've certainly never seen that. That's amazing. Well, Pickens has

568
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Speaker 1: been one of the stars of the NFL. If you

569
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Speaker 1: were to do I mean it's not MVP, but if

570
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Speaker 1: you were to do like breakout Star of the Year

571
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Speaker 1: in the NFL, which is not a it's not an

572
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Speaker 1: A ward, but we can make the NFL cover to

573
00:26:19,773 --> 00:26:23,973
Speaker 1: make it, would it be? I think I'd probably go

574
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Speaker 1: Jackson Smith and Jigbu because it's just not a person

575
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Speaker 1: I've spent a lot of time in my life thinking

576
00:26:28,333 --> 00:26:31,573
Speaker 1: about and I can now pronounce his name correctly, which

577
00:26:31,613 --> 00:26:33,613
Speaker 1: wasn't true until this year. So I think I'd probably

578
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Speaker 1: pick him. Who would you pick?

579
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Speaker 2: Yeah, I actually sit around and think about Jayson a

580
00:26:37,533 --> 00:26:39,213
Speaker 2: lot and just have days where I'm just like, wonder

581
00:26:39,293 --> 00:26:41,693
Speaker 2: what he's doing it right now? He's been special. Honestly,

582
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Speaker 2: Pickens is a great, great up pick uh. I thought

583
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Speaker 2: there was a moment where Rico Dabele he had quite

584
00:26:47,853 --> 00:26:49,573
Speaker 2: a stretch where was like, oh, what is he found?

585
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Speaker 2: He's cooled off a little bit, had a period of time.

586
00:26:53,053 --> 00:26:55,133
Speaker 2: You might have said that about him too. Yeah, so

587
00:26:55,173 --> 00:26:57,693
Speaker 2: definitely those guests. Yeah, that's who I would go with.

588
00:26:57,693 --> 00:26:58,453
Speaker 2: Who's your vote for?

589
00:26:58,453 --> 00:26:59,053
Speaker 1: Bryce Young?

590
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Speaker 5: Does your rookies count? I know it's their first year,

591
00:27:01,613 --> 00:27:02,533
Speaker 5: but Jackson, I mean.

592
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Speaker 1: You can't. You can you can't break out if we

593
00:27:04,573 --> 00:27:06,372
Speaker 1: never saw you play before. First of all, how can

594
00:27:06,413 --> 00:27:08,413
Speaker 1: you pick that he's been hurt? I thought he's been

595
00:27:08,413 --> 00:27:11,533
Speaker 1: fantastic though when he's lay like five weeks he broke

596
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Speaker 1: an all.

597
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Speaker 5: Time record for rushing touchdowns from a quarterback spot. I

598
00:27:15,013 --> 00:27:16,413
Speaker 5: mean it's been impressive.

599
00:27:16,453 --> 00:27:17,332
Speaker 1: So do you mean he broke it?

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Speaker 5: What was the re consecutive games with the rushing touchdown?

601
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Speaker 1: But it wasn't it like four? It was five.

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Speaker 5: Okay, you're easily doing hey man, one must want us

603
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Speaker 5: some money on.

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Speaker 1: The h I think you just think he's handsome. I know,

605
00:27:31,733 --> 00:27:33,453
Speaker 1: if we're doing rookies, I'm gonna throw in Harold Finn

606
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Speaker 1: and Junior. We're not doing rook from bowling, don't get

607
00:27:36,893 --> 00:27:38,893
Speaker 1: to be part of this award that I just created

608
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Speaker 1: out of nowe Just remember on our first ever podcast,

609
00:27:41,173 --> 00:27:43,733
Speaker 1: I said watch for Harold Fan and Junior from Bower.

610
00:27:57,493 --> 00:27:58,093
Speaker 1: Who's next?

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Speaker 5: Speaking of the browns sder Sanders is going to be

612
00:28:01,093 --> 00:28:03,733
Speaker 5: starting another week for the Cleveland Browns as they take

613
00:28:03,773 --> 00:28:05,093
Speaker 5: on the forty nine ers this week at home.

614
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Speaker 1: So where are you on shed or standards? Rooting for him?

615
00:28:12,973 --> 00:28:16,292
Speaker 1: I enjoyed the moment last week. It was in Vegas?

616
00:28:16,453 --> 00:28:18,092
Speaker 1: Was it? It was there a moment. The fifty three

617
00:28:18,173 --> 00:28:20,053
Speaker 1: yard pass was a moment. He didn't die. I wish

618
00:28:20,093 --> 00:28:22,173
Speaker 1: they had gotten no, no, no, no, you're not the dump

619
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Speaker 1: off at That was a good pas guy.

620
00:28:24,613 --> 00:28:26,292
Speaker 2: Yeah, stopped on the one. I wish you could have

621
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Speaker 2: seen that through for touchdown. I will say I was

622
00:28:28,053 --> 00:28:30,293
Speaker 2: smiling for that. Now I'm not walking around showing off

623
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Speaker 2: my wrists and doing the watch dance. And I honestly

624
00:28:33,773 --> 00:28:35,493
Speaker 2: not to be a hater. I think he's gonna have

625
00:28:35,653 --> 00:28:36,773
Speaker 2: a come down moment.

626
00:28:38,653 --> 00:28:41,013
Speaker 1: That's going to be That could be bad. What about

627
00:28:41,013 --> 00:28:42,573
Speaker 1: his statement, I mean we talked about it a little

628
00:28:42,573 --> 00:28:45,173
Speaker 1: bit last show. But the if you give me now

629
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Speaker 1: you see, if you give me a full year what

630
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Speaker 1: I can do. I mean, it's it's a little I mean,

631
00:28:51,653 --> 00:28:54,133
Speaker 1: it's a little much, right, Yeah, And I don't want

632
00:28:54,133 --> 00:28:56,773
Speaker 1: to sound like old school football purist guy. But he's

633
00:28:56,893 --> 00:28:58,813
Speaker 1: still doing a lot of I I me, me, me.

634
00:28:58,973 --> 00:29:01,373
Speaker 1: I think Rex Ryan or somebody even came out was like, hey,

635
00:29:01,453 --> 00:29:02,133
Speaker 1: when you win.

636
00:29:02,173 --> 00:29:05,453
Speaker 2: It's we If you lose, you say I But there's

637
00:29:05,453 --> 00:29:06,173
Speaker 2: still a lot of.

638
00:29:06,733 --> 00:29:08,613
Speaker 1: Seems to have an issue with him. I don't know

639
00:29:08,653 --> 00:29:11,373
Speaker 1: what it's about. Maybe because he hasn't seen his feet,

640
00:29:11,413 --> 00:29:14,653
Speaker 1: I don't know, but but when talks it is all

641
00:29:14,653 --> 00:29:17,413
Speaker 1: about me. I'm sorry, Rick Fry I met. He was

642
00:29:17,413 --> 00:29:19,813
Speaker 1: always very nice to me when I was speaking of brothers.

643
00:29:19,853 --> 00:29:21,853
Speaker 1: I think he makes fun of himself on that. I

644
00:29:21,893 --> 00:29:24,493
Speaker 1: feel like, yeah, I don't know, he's as far as

645
00:29:24,493 --> 00:29:26,133
Speaker 1: far as I know, he's a perfectly nice guy. So

646
00:29:26,493 --> 00:29:28,093
Speaker 1: I don't mean that was that was a low blow.

647
00:29:28,253 --> 00:29:32,813
Speaker 1: But sometimes I think Chador is you know, his dions kid.

648
00:29:32,853 --> 00:29:34,853
Speaker 1: Of course he's gonna be a little full of himself.

649
00:29:35,093 --> 00:29:38,573
Speaker 1: I think in this moment he d Gabriel get along.

650
00:29:39,853 --> 00:29:42,173
Speaker 1: I mean, is there a world in which they could

651
00:29:42,173 --> 00:29:45,493
Speaker 1: get along, because I feel like, first of all the

652
00:29:45,493 --> 00:29:48,053
Speaker 1: world has put them against each other, and then I

653
00:29:48,093 --> 00:29:52,013
Speaker 1: don't think Chador is ever at all gracious towards him publicly.

654
00:29:52,053 --> 00:29:53,853
Speaker 1: Now maybe privately they're good, but.

655
00:29:55,453 --> 00:29:59,253
Speaker 2: They gotta be somewhat close just going through the meetings now,

656
00:29:59,293 --> 00:30:00,493
Speaker 2: I doubt they're like going.

657
00:30:01,493 --> 00:30:04,333
Speaker 1: Let me play. And the implicit in that as you

658
00:30:04,613 --> 00:30:08,173
Speaker 1: suck Drew didn't, DIDN'TDG take a shot at him? Once?

659
00:30:08,213 --> 00:30:10,573
Speaker 1: You and this DG. You always say DG. It blows

660
00:30:10,613 --> 00:30:12,933
Speaker 1: my mind. We call everyone by their names, but you

661
00:30:12,973 --> 00:30:15,653
Speaker 1: and Dylan Gabriel, it's DG. Why are you so close

662
00:30:15,733 --> 00:30:16,693
Speaker 1: to you?

663
00:30:16,773 --> 00:30:18,773
Speaker 5: I don't know, Maybe because I'm rooting for him, Like

664
00:30:18,813 --> 00:30:20,413
Speaker 5: everybody was like counting them out.

665
00:30:20,453 --> 00:30:22,933
Speaker 1: They didn't want him, They wanted Shadur so and you

666
00:30:22,933 --> 00:30:25,933
Speaker 1: wanted DG. Sorry, it throws me off when you said, yeah,

667
00:30:25,973 --> 00:30:27,613
Speaker 1: what was the question, sorry.

668
00:30:27,413 --> 00:30:31,613
Speaker 5: Billy, I got didn't DG like make like a make

669
00:30:31,613 --> 00:30:34,213
Speaker 5: it like a comment like at a press conference about

670
00:30:34,253 --> 00:30:36,653
Speaker 5: Shadur How he was like, you know, some people are

671
00:30:36,693 --> 00:30:38,773
Speaker 5: taking it more seriously than others, or something like that.

672
00:30:38,773 --> 00:30:43,933
Speaker 1: I'd had to go back. It was implied, Okay, I

673
00:30:43,933 --> 00:30:45,533
Speaker 1: don't remember that. There's about SS.

674
00:30:48,773 --> 00:30:51,813
Speaker 2: There's little things like when Gabriel was playing well and

675
00:30:51,853 --> 00:30:52,333
Speaker 2: just taking over.

676
00:30:52,333 --> 00:30:54,733
Speaker 1: He did the schador Di the mime. I mean, I

677
00:30:54,733 --> 00:30:57,813
Speaker 1: don't know that they like each other. I mean, I

678
00:30:57,813 --> 00:30:59,093
Speaker 1: don't know if they dislike each other.

679
00:30:59,093 --> 00:31:00,853
Speaker 2: And part of your competitive if that guy's wants your

680
00:31:00,933 --> 00:31:02,933
Speaker 2: job and you want his job, that probably happened.

681
00:31:02,733 --> 00:31:05,013
Speaker 1: To be teammates, though. I mean, that's the that's the

682
00:31:05,053 --> 00:31:07,693
Speaker 1: weird and unlike it other positions where I can play

683
00:31:07,733 --> 00:31:09,653
Speaker 1: running back and you can too, and we can both

684
00:31:09,693 --> 00:31:13,053
Speaker 1: play quarterback, there can only be one. Like I was

685
00:31:13,093 --> 00:31:15,813
Speaker 1: talking to Max Stuffy, that's our friend. He tried to

686
00:31:15,893 --> 00:31:19,853
Speaker 1: punt uh. He was in training camp for the Broncos

687
00:31:20,093 --> 00:31:21,853
Speaker 1: in a punting competition and it was just him and

688
00:31:21,853 --> 00:31:24,333
Speaker 1: one other guy and one of them was going to

689
00:31:24,373 --> 00:31:26,693
Speaker 1: get the job and the other one was going to

690
00:31:26,893 --> 00:31:29,253
Speaker 1: be on the street. And I asked him. I was like,

691
00:31:29,773 --> 00:31:31,613
Speaker 1: how'd you deal with that guy? And he was like,

692
00:31:32,093 --> 00:31:35,613
Speaker 1: we didn't do anything. We didn't talk like, I didn't

693
00:31:35,613 --> 00:31:38,573
Speaker 1: hate to take a lead. We were trying. We were

694
00:31:38,613 --> 00:31:41,493
Speaker 1: fighting every day. And he was like, so, I said,

695
00:31:41,613 --> 00:31:43,533
Speaker 1: were you work did you work together? And he was

696
00:31:43,613 --> 00:31:45,853
Speaker 1: like no, I guess Chadur and.

697
00:31:46,133 --> 00:31:48,293
Speaker 2: DG are already on the team together. They're going to

698
00:31:48,333 --> 00:31:51,293
Speaker 2: rookie events together. They're probably going through the exact same

699
00:31:51,373 --> 00:31:54,613
Speaker 2: process side by side.

700
00:31:54,693 --> 00:31:57,053
Speaker 1: Though this is like one of these situations. This is

701
00:31:57,093 --> 00:31:59,773
Speaker 1: not like you can be starter backup in two years.

702
00:31:59,813 --> 00:32:01,493
Speaker 1: Only one of these guys is gonna be on the team.

703
00:32:01,533 --> 00:32:03,093
Speaker 1: But I don't think that's any different than any other

704
00:32:03,173 --> 00:32:05,493
Speaker 1: locker room. I'm sure every third stream once the second

705
00:32:05,493 --> 00:32:08,333
Speaker 1: stringer's job. That's just I would say, petty of juices.

706
00:32:08,413 --> 00:32:09,893
Speaker 1: I don't know, I feel like this is worse. I

707
00:32:09,893 --> 00:32:14,213
Speaker 1: feel like the fact they're both rookies, they're both started

708
00:32:14,253 --> 00:32:18,453
Speaker 1: the season's backups, I just feel like they they they

709
00:32:18,493 --> 00:32:22,653
Speaker 1: hate each other. I mean, I'm not reporting it, but

710
00:32:22,773 --> 00:32:24,813
Speaker 1: I feel pretty confidently is this going to be on

711
00:32:24,893 --> 00:32:27,973
Speaker 1: like the scroll of the bottom events on that but

712
00:32:28,053 --> 00:32:31,293
Speaker 1: Matt Jones reporting Shador and Dylan Gabriel hate each other

713
00:32:32,213 --> 00:32:36,973
Speaker 1: on the show, Billy our Sports says DG is his favorite.

714
00:32:36,973 --> 00:32:38,933
Speaker 2: By the way, on that scroll, I know we've done

715
00:32:39,053 --> 00:32:41,493
Speaker 2: already half a season on this. When I'm watching NFL

716
00:32:41,533 --> 00:32:43,293
Speaker 2: Network and our names go down at the bottom, I'm

717
00:32:43,333 --> 00:32:43,933
Speaker 2: like a little kid.

718
00:32:44,053 --> 00:32:44,413
Speaker 3: I can't.

719
00:32:44,653 --> 00:32:46,533
Speaker 2: I get up to deposit and I take pictures and

720
00:32:46,533 --> 00:32:48,213
Speaker 2: I send it to my mom. I don't do that

721
00:32:48,253 --> 00:32:50,853
Speaker 2: about anything else that we do. But when they do that,

722
00:32:50,893 --> 00:32:53,533
Speaker 2: I still am am just riding high that we're doing this.

723
00:32:53,813 --> 00:32:59,853
Speaker 1: Yeah. Look, somebody literally just moments ago on Twitter tweeted

724
00:32:59,893 --> 00:33:01,653
Speaker 1: me and he can't be listening because we're not doing

725
00:33:01,653 --> 00:33:05,133
Speaker 1: this live about your hat. Hey, someone literally is tweeting

726
00:33:05,133 --> 00:33:07,293
Speaker 1: about your hat right now. Yeah, that's the one that's

727
00:33:07,293 --> 00:33:08,893
Speaker 1: out of stock. I'm trying to find that one still,

728
00:33:10,013 --> 00:33:12,333
Speaker 1: that one would be uh that well? Rob Low made

729
00:33:12,373 --> 00:33:15,013
Speaker 1: it very popular. Did you're going to make that one popular?

730
00:33:15,133 --> 00:33:15,653
Speaker 1: What's next?

731
00:33:15,653 --> 00:33:18,853
Speaker 5: We're trying to hear some other quarterback news. Baker Mayfield

732
00:33:18,933 --> 00:33:22,053
Speaker 5: suffered a low grade sprained shoulder in his non throwing

733
00:33:22,093 --> 00:33:24,013
Speaker 5: shoulder in that Rams game. He should be good to

734
00:33:24,013 --> 00:33:25,173
Speaker 5: go to play this next round.

735
00:33:25,213 --> 00:33:26,853
Speaker 1: That's good news for them. I mean they weren't sure

736
00:33:26,853 --> 00:33:29,853
Speaker 1: about that. I thought that he might be out. Are

737
00:33:29,973 --> 00:33:33,093
Speaker 1: have you given up? I mean you all no, not yet?

738
00:33:33,173 --> 00:33:35,773
Speaker 1: What is the what's the ceiling of what you think?

739
00:33:35,773 --> 00:33:37,413
Speaker 1: Do you still think you can make a super Bowl

740
00:33:37,493 --> 00:33:39,013
Speaker 1: or did you give that up? Yeah?

741
00:33:39,053 --> 00:33:41,133
Speaker 5: I've probably given the super Bowl up. Defense is too

742
00:33:41,173 --> 00:33:42,733
Speaker 5: bad for that. They can win the division for a

743
00:33:42,773 --> 00:33:45,773
Speaker 5: fifth straight year, but then a home wild card loss

744
00:33:45,853 --> 00:33:47,013
Speaker 5: is definitely in our future.

745
00:33:47,693 --> 00:33:50,733
Speaker 1: So you are going to play. You're going to play

746
00:33:50,733 --> 00:33:55,293
Speaker 1: that Saturday early game in the playoffs, right, Yeah, probably

747
00:33:55,333 --> 00:33:59,453
Speaker 1: against who's going to be the five seed San Francisco. Yeah, An,

748
00:33:59,813 --> 00:34:01,733
Speaker 1: it's going to be you, And to say it, well,

749
00:34:02,373 --> 00:34:05,293
Speaker 1: but you'll host. So I think you and San Francisco

750
00:34:05,333 --> 00:34:07,933
Speaker 1: that's a good early Saturday game because no one will

751
00:34:07,933 --> 00:34:11,772
Speaker 1: care about that game. Yeah, I feel like that's what

752
00:34:11,813 --> 00:34:13,772
Speaker 1: we're getting you. I like you in that spot. Though

753
00:34:14,692 --> 00:34:18,613
Speaker 1: the early game Baker playoff should be like nine am

754
00:34:18,692 --> 00:34:20,533
Speaker 1: for San Francisco will still be sleepy.

755
00:34:20,613 --> 00:34:22,613
Speaker 2: I mean I just watched him throw three interceptions in

756
00:34:22,652 --> 00:34:24,412
Speaker 2: the first half two nights ago, so you got that.

757
00:34:24,493 --> 00:34:26,973
Speaker 5: Yeah, maybe Mike Evans comes back and can be a decoy.

758
00:34:27,292 --> 00:34:29,253
Speaker 5: Uh but yeah, the seion definitely.

759
00:34:29,332 --> 00:34:32,093
Speaker 1: When you say Mike Evans to me, you're it's like

760
00:34:32,172 --> 00:34:35,932
Speaker 1: you're saying, maybe Roger Craig can come back. Like I

761
00:34:35,933 --> 00:34:38,812
Speaker 1: feel think Mike Evans has been in the league so long,

762
00:34:38,893 --> 00:34:40,932
Speaker 1: and I guess because he hasn't played this year, he

763
00:34:41,053 --> 00:34:43,772
Speaker 1: just seems like a name from a different generation to me.

764
00:34:43,933 --> 00:34:46,412
Speaker 5: First ballot Hall of Famer, though there's no doubt about it.

765
00:34:46,732 --> 00:34:48,492
Speaker 5: You're gonna go greatest receivers to ever play.

766
00:34:49,013 --> 00:34:51,493
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'd love to you seem like you. Is he

767
00:34:51,573 --> 00:34:55,372
Speaker 1: your favorite? Who's your favorite Buck of all time? Either

768
00:34:55,453 --> 00:35:01,533
Speaker 1: Mike Alstar or Jamis probably Jeamus? Yeah, interesting Mike Alstott.

769
00:35:02,133 --> 00:35:05,452
Speaker 1: That's very much like a I don't know, it's very

770
00:35:05,533 --> 00:35:08,413
Speaker 1: much like a why dude like us favorably.

771
00:35:10,893 --> 00:35:13,692
Speaker 2: Yeah, somebody needs to bring his shoulder pads back. He

772
00:35:13,732 --> 00:35:16,492
Speaker 2: had the best shoulder pads, those big things. Huge Yeah,

773
00:35:17,292 --> 00:35:20,452
Speaker 2: huge bucks. I think the first name that comes to

774
00:35:20,453 --> 00:35:21,292
Speaker 2: my mind's Warren.

775
00:35:21,133 --> 00:35:27,413
Speaker 1: Sap Sap Brooks, war Dunch Done, fun Group, Lynch, Yeah, Lynch,

776
00:35:27,772 --> 00:35:30,692
Speaker 1: I forget about warg Done. That's a good one. Brad Johnson.

777
00:35:31,172 --> 00:35:33,412
Speaker 1: It's got to be the hair, Jinx, What do you mean?

778
00:35:33,453 --> 00:35:35,533
Speaker 1: It's got to be the hair. He did car commercials

779
00:35:35,533 --> 00:35:38,613
Speaker 1: in Tampa, and you expect everyone in the country to

780
00:35:38,692 --> 00:35:41,452
Speaker 1: know that, did you? Just like you think everybody's gonna

781
00:35:41,453 --> 00:35:43,293
Speaker 1: know the Tampa. He also has a trick shot channel

782
00:35:43,292 --> 00:35:46,573
Speaker 1: on TikTok. Now, that's good. I watched that. It's impressive.

783
00:35:46,732 --> 00:35:47,972
Speaker 1: What is it? I don't know what this is.

784
00:35:48,053 --> 00:35:50,973
Speaker 5: So Brad Johnson will throw a football and hit goalposts

785
00:35:51,013 --> 00:35:51,372
Speaker 5: or things.

786
00:35:51,413 --> 00:35:54,852
Speaker 1: Like that. Even now he's what dude perfect wants to be.

787
00:35:55,212 --> 00:35:57,172
Speaker 1: How old is he? He's like got to be fifty, isn't.

788
00:35:57,212 --> 00:36:01,253
Speaker 1: Oh yeah, he's pushing sixteen fifty. He's gonna be probably

789
00:36:01,252 --> 00:36:05,013
Speaker 1: early fifties. And he's still throwing it like he's slinging it.

790
00:36:05,013 --> 00:36:08,372
Speaker 1: Calls himself big Bad.

791
00:36:08,652 --> 00:36:10,492
Speaker 2: It's not like he's just kind of throwing one in

792
00:36:10,533 --> 00:36:12,332
Speaker 2: from a three point line on the basketball court.

793
00:36:12,573 --> 00:36:15,372
Speaker 1: He has some crazy trick shots. Good for you, big

794
00:36:15,453 --> 00:36:17,812
Speaker 1: Bad Brad. And what was the commercial? It's got to

795
00:36:17,812 --> 00:36:20,613
Speaker 1: be the hair. What did that mean? He just had

796
00:36:20,613 --> 00:36:23,133
Speaker 1: great hair, always had great hair. So the commercial was

797
00:36:23,172 --> 00:36:25,452
Speaker 1: like I have great Was it selling something? Yeah?

798
00:36:25,493 --> 00:36:29,852
Speaker 5: Cars? From what I remember my hazy memory of my childhood, have.

799
00:36:29,732 --> 00:36:31,692
Speaker 2: Brad Johnson is a look at my hair, come by

800
00:36:31,732 --> 00:36:33,892
Speaker 2: this car. If all the bucks we named there could

801
00:36:33,893 --> 00:36:34,053
Speaker 2: be that.

802
00:36:34,133 --> 00:36:35,573
Speaker 1: I need to look at his hair and see if

803
00:36:35,613 --> 00:36:38,333
Speaker 1: it was really good? Is it was? It was? It

804
00:36:38,332 --> 00:36:40,332
Speaker 1: felt like it was like your standard go to your

805
00:36:40,413 --> 00:36:42,812
Speaker 1: just the shopping center of fifteen dollars haircut. It's like

806
00:36:42,852 --> 00:36:48,972
Speaker 1: Brad Johnson quarterback. I mean, no offense, but like that hair,

807
00:36:49,013 --> 00:36:49,812
Speaker 1: it's just a cut.

808
00:36:49,852 --> 00:36:52,212
Speaker 5: I mean it's just oh it wasn't that for the commercials?

809
00:36:52,212 --> 00:36:54,013
Speaker 5: Though in Tampa he had much better hair than that,

810
00:36:54,053 --> 00:36:55,013
Speaker 5: whatever that cut was.

811
00:36:55,332 --> 00:36:59,092
Speaker 1: I see no pictures of Brad Johnson with good hair, non.

812
00:36:59,893 --> 00:37:02,013
Speaker 1: I mean, first of all, this is what he looks like?

813
00:37:02,252 --> 00:37:02,492
Speaker 4: Is this?

814
00:37:02,573 --> 00:37:05,772
Speaker 1: What is this? The guy slinging right here? Oh? Yeah, yeah,

815
00:37:05,812 --> 00:37:08,692
Speaker 1: that's that's big bad bread. It's bread. He's bigger. Now.

816
00:37:10,372 --> 00:37:11,972
Speaker 1: I don't think he had good hair. I think you,

817
00:37:12,133 --> 00:37:14,093
Speaker 1: I think you're thinking about it. Is also, why was

818
00:37:14,133 --> 00:37:17,652
Speaker 1: he talking about his hair for a car commercial? That

819
00:37:17,812 --> 00:37:19,692
Speaker 1: is a better question than if he had good hair.

820
00:37:19,893 --> 00:37:21,932
Speaker 1: I think my question is still valid because I've yet

821
00:37:21,933 --> 00:37:23,292
Speaker 1: to see a picture of him in good hair. I'll

822
00:37:23,292 --> 00:37:25,053
Speaker 1: find the I'll find the commercial. I want to see

823
00:37:25,053 --> 00:37:25,972
Speaker 1: his flow. What's next.

824
00:37:26,172 --> 00:37:29,852
Speaker 5: The other quarterback news I had besides Brad Johnson and

825
00:37:29,893 --> 00:37:32,772
Speaker 5: Baker Mayfield is that JJ McCarthy is in concussion protocol.

826
00:37:32,812 --> 00:37:35,652
Speaker 5: There's a chance he doesn't play this week's game versus

827
00:37:35,692 --> 00:37:36,292
Speaker 5: the Seahawks.

828
00:37:36,292 --> 00:37:38,533
Speaker 1: Matt, do you know who the Vikings are? It's a rookie.

829
00:37:38,732 --> 00:37:41,212
Speaker 1: His name's like Max Scherzer.

830
00:37:41,453 --> 00:37:44,892
Speaker 5: Uh Brosmer, So pretty good Max Brosmer?

831
00:37:45,133 --> 00:37:47,252
Speaker 1: And where did he play? Drew? And I looked it

832
00:37:47,292 --> 00:37:49,413
Speaker 1: up before the show started. Minnesota, Minnesota.

833
00:37:49,533 --> 00:37:52,172
Speaker 2: Yep, he's one of those people that played it like

834
00:37:52,252 --> 00:37:52,853
Speaker 2: three colleges.

835
00:37:53,212 --> 00:37:56,333
Speaker 1: Max Brosmer of Minnesota is going to get to play

836
00:37:56,493 --> 00:37:58,053
Speaker 1: for Minnesota.

837
00:37:57,973 --> 00:38:00,613
Speaker 5: Might be replacing nine as the starting quarterback of the

838
00:38:00,652 --> 00:38:01,813
Speaker 5: Viking nine.

839
00:38:01,893 --> 00:38:05,172
Speaker 1: I'm excited. I love when random dudes get to play

840
00:38:05,413 --> 00:38:09,652
Speaker 1: like I love the quarterback is somebody from like beer

841
00:38:09,933 --> 00:38:12,133
Speaker 1: fart state, I do enjoy. I mean, I don't know

842
00:38:12,133 --> 00:38:15,652
Speaker 1: if Minnesota is exactly that, but I no one knows

843
00:38:15,692 --> 00:38:18,812
Speaker 1: Max Prosmer, and I'm excited to watch him play.

844
00:38:18,812 --> 00:38:21,412
Speaker 2: Who is a New Hampshire before he was at Minnesota.

845
00:38:21,573 --> 00:38:23,413
Speaker 2: So he started at the lower level.

846
00:38:23,533 --> 00:38:26,332
Speaker 1: Oh they're gonna get destroyed, aren't they. He's gonna get

847
00:38:26,573 --> 00:38:28,812
Speaker 1: So he started at New Hampshire, Yes, then to the

848
00:38:28,852 --> 00:38:32,972
Speaker 1: Golden Gophers, then to the Vikings. He could be better

849
00:38:33,013 --> 00:38:36,333
Speaker 1: than JJ McCarthy. Well that would be bad if Max

850
00:38:36,372 --> 00:38:39,732
Speaker 1: brod what if he in look good man, I'm so

851
00:38:39,772 --> 00:38:43,372
Speaker 1: I'm excited now. I I every year you get one

852
00:38:43,372 --> 00:38:45,932
Speaker 1: of these games where one year my bears had it,

853
00:38:46,013 --> 00:38:51,133
Speaker 1: they had like Tyler hat Pagent Orgent and he played

854
00:38:51,212 --> 00:38:55,212
Speaker 1: somewhere random and came in and actually played pretty well.

855
00:38:55,292 --> 00:38:56,613
Speaker 1: So maybe Max prosmer will.

856
00:38:56,692 --> 00:38:58,892
Speaker 2: Yes, sometimes these guys get shots to Stig are out.

857
00:38:59,172 --> 00:39:01,372
Speaker 2: Billy your Western Kentucky Bailey's appy. He's still on a

858
00:39:01,453 --> 00:39:03,453
Speaker 2: roster somewhere. I remember when he got his first minute.

859
00:39:03,613 --> 00:39:07,652
Speaker 2: He's the he's shdoors back. He shdoor's backup this week.

860
00:39:07,732 --> 00:39:10,533
Speaker 1: So you can make it to the league from anywhere. Yeah, well,

861
00:39:10,573 --> 00:39:11,533
Speaker 1: all right, what's next?

862
00:39:12,732 --> 00:39:16,133
Speaker 5: The Giants fired their defensive coordinator just recently, Shane Bowen.

863
00:39:16,613 --> 00:39:19,053
Speaker 5: It was a fifth time they blew a ten plus

864
00:39:19,093 --> 00:39:21,412
Speaker 5: point lead, that is an NFL record. By the way,

865
00:39:21,453 --> 00:39:25,093
Speaker 5: their defense ranked thirtieth overall. And Sunday's loss the Giants

866
00:39:25,093 --> 00:39:27,492
Speaker 5: it was their twelfth straight road loss. So they've fired

867
00:39:27,493 --> 00:39:29,692
Speaker 5: their head coach and their defensive coordinator in a matter

868
00:39:29,692 --> 00:39:30,333
Speaker 5: of two weeks.

869
00:39:30,493 --> 00:39:33,852
Speaker 1: So his name is some bowman right boeing Bowen. So

870
00:39:34,013 --> 00:39:37,613
Speaker 1: I was driving around. I was in the drive through

871
00:39:37,652 --> 00:39:41,692
Speaker 1: right lane at Jaggers, which i'd never tried before. I've

872
00:39:41,692 --> 00:39:43,972
Speaker 1: heard good things, haven't been yet. It's fine, but it's

873
00:39:44,133 --> 00:39:46,892
Speaker 1: very inexpensive, like I think that's why people like it.

874
00:39:46,973 --> 00:39:49,852
Speaker 1: Like sandwich is like five dollars, which you don't see

875
00:39:49,852 --> 00:39:55,012
Speaker 1: that nowadays. So there's your Jaggers add But the while

876
00:39:55,013 --> 00:39:57,013
Speaker 1: I was in line, I had it on the NFL

877
00:39:57,133 --> 00:39:59,372
Speaker 1: radio because I like the two old guys that are

878
00:39:59,413 --> 00:40:02,932
Speaker 1: on the afternoon moving the chains. It wasn't on yet,

879
00:40:02,973 --> 00:40:04,212
Speaker 1: so I don't know what was on. But one of

880
00:40:04,212 --> 00:40:07,252
Speaker 1: the guys that was doing it was is a Giants guy,

881
00:40:08,093 --> 00:40:10,772
Speaker 1: and he was going off on this guy and he

882
00:40:10,933 --> 00:40:15,172
Speaker 1: was like, everyone who's ever watched a football game has

883
00:40:15,292 --> 00:40:18,053
Speaker 1: said to themselves in the last couple of weeks that

884
00:40:18,172 --> 00:40:21,133
Speaker 1: Shane Bowen doesn't know what he's doing. And I was like,

885
00:40:21,172 --> 00:40:24,133
Speaker 1: I don't think that's true. I've watched the football game,

886
00:40:24,692 --> 00:40:29,093
Speaker 1: never thought about that guy, Not one time have I

887
00:40:29,133 --> 00:40:31,732
Speaker 1: ever thought about it. But then they said, you know,

888
00:40:31,852 --> 00:40:34,732
Speaker 1: he's he's given up ten point leads. He's given up

889
00:40:34,732 --> 00:40:38,332
Speaker 1: a lead of ten points six games this year. But

890
00:40:38,413 --> 00:40:40,613
Speaker 1: the guy that fired him just got the job a

891
00:40:40,652 --> 00:40:43,053
Speaker 1: week ago, and a week ago he said I have

892
00:40:43,133 --> 00:40:44,892
Speaker 1: full confidence in him for the rest of the year,

893
00:40:44,933 --> 00:40:46,932
Speaker 1: and then one week later he got rid of him

894
00:40:47,013 --> 00:40:49,493
Speaker 1: on a game they almost won in Detroit. So that

895
00:40:49,573 --> 00:40:50,412
Speaker 1: seems odd to me.

896
00:40:50,933 --> 00:40:52,573
Speaker 2: Yeah, I have a little bit of He was the

897
00:40:52,573 --> 00:40:55,932
Speaker 2: Titans defensive coordinator for three years before the Giants and

898
00:40:55,973 --> 00:40:57,372
Speaker 2: it was kind of a mixed bag. We had a

899
00:40:57,453 --> 00:41:01,252
Speaker 2: year we was really good. They were the AFC Championship run.

900
00:41:01,292 --> 00:41:03,093
Speaker 2: They were tops in a lot of categories. But his

901
00:41:03,133 --> 00:41:05,133
Speaker 2: weakness was defending the past. We always had a good

902
00:41:05,652 --> 00:41:08,413
Speaker 2: run defe So when the he left with the Titans

903
00:41:08,413 --> 00:41:10,013
Speaker 2: and they picked him up immediately, it was kind of

904
00:41:10,093 --> 00:41:11,292
Speaker 2: a okay, enjoy Is it.

905
00:41:11,172 --> 00:41:15,212
Speaker 1: Well known that he's not someone you want with your

906
00:41:15,292 --> 00:41:16,772
Speaker 1: I mean, was he not? Was it well known that

907
00:41:16,812 --> 00:41:18,452
Speaker 1: he was having They said he doesn't know how to

908
00:41:18,493 --> 00:41:20,772
Speaker 1: call play? Like this guy was going off on him.

909
00:41:21,053 --> 00:41:24,692
Speaker 1: Sounds about right coming from my organization. Yeah, a good

910
00:41:24,732 --> 00:41:26,533
Speaker 1: year and it took him a while to get my

911
00:41:26,613 --> 00:41:28,573
Speaker 1: chicken sandwich. So I was like, is this guy gonna

912
00:41:28,652 --> 00:41:30,853
Speaker 1: just continue to rail? I mean, the guy got fired.

913
00:41:30,893 --> 00:41:33,692
Speaker 1: Give him a break, you know he could maybe he

914
00:41:33,692 --> 00:41:35,413
Speaker 1: needs a job here, you go work there now. Yeah,

915
00:41:35,453 --> 00:41:38,212
Speaker 1: well he will not be so uh. And then they

916
00:41:38,212 --> 00:41:40,412
Speaker 1: got mad. They're like, well they've promoted so and so.

917
00:41:40,732 --> 00:41:43,212
Speaker 1: Who's never called plays before. I'm like, well, what do

918
00:41:43,212 --> 00:41:45,372
Speaker 1: you want him to do? You just fired the other guy.

919
00:41:45,493 --> 00:41:47,493
Speaker 1: Somebody's gotta start, somebody's got to do it. And the

920
00:41:47,493 --> 00:41:49,212
Speaker 1: guy just never called plays. I mean he's got to

921
00:41:49,252 --> 00:41:49,853
Speaker 1: start somewhere.

922
00:41:49,973 --> 00:42:04,533
Speaker 3: Yeah, all right.

923
00:42:04,652 --> 00:42:07,412
Speaker 5: My final news note is another coaching change chi if

924
00:42:07,493 --> 00:42:09,412
Speaker 5: Kelly was fired in the middle of our last show.

925
00:42:09,493 --> 00:42:13,613
Speaker 1: Las Vegas is making Greg Olsen's brother Accordon and Drew.

926
00:42:14,053 --> 00:42:17,692
Speaker 5: Their interim offensive coordinator, the quarterbacks coach Greg Olsen. This

927
00:42:17,732 --> 00:42:21,053
Speaker 5: will be Olsen's third stint as the Raiders offensive coordinator.

928
00:42:21,093 --> 00:42:24,172
Speaker 5: He held the job in twenty thirteen and fourteen, then

929
00:42:24,212 --> 00:42:27,212
Speaker 5: again in twenty eighteen to twenty twenty one, and now

930
00:42:27,252 --> 00:42:28,973
Speaker 5: again here in twenty twenty.

931
00:42:28,732 --> 00:42:33,933
Speaker 1: Five, which team, the Raiders. That is kind of amazing

932
00:42:33,933 --> 00:42:35,732
Speaker 1: that he would have the job three times, the same

933
00:42:35,852 --> 00:42:38,252
Speaker 1: three separate times. Yeah, look, what did you not like

934
00:42:38,292 --> 00:42:40,532
Speaker 1: about it the first time? Said he'd changed so much?

935
00:42:40,613 --> 00:42:42,252
Speaker 1: Or did he just hang around? It's like, I'll give

936
00:42:42,292 --> 00:42:44,332
Speaker 1: it to me. He just has like a long term

937
00:42:44,413 --> 00:42:46,852
Speaker 1: lease and so he can't go work anywhere else. And

938
00:42:46,893 --> 00:42:49,372
Speaker 1: every few years they're like, you know what, Greg's a

939
00:42:49,372 --> 00:42:52,332
Speaker 1: good guy. He keeps hanging around. He's cheap. Let's bring

940
00:42:52,413 --> 00:42:56,693
Speaker 1: him back. His name is Greg Olsen. Two yes, hm,

941
00:42:57,772 --> 00:42:59,813
Speaker 1: so it's tough for him. Two people.

942
00:42:59,933 --> 00:43:03,252
Speaker 2: We did this with Josh Allen's Yeah, they're both good. Yeah,

943
00:43:03,252 --> 00:43:04,973
Speaker 2: I mean this, Greg Olsen doesn't stand a chance. The

944
00:43:04,973 --> 00:43:07,292
Speaker 2: moment I heard this, I thought was a broadcaster stepping away.

945
00:43:07,573 --> 00:43:12,333
Speaker 2: Craig Olsen so well, I mean there's a very small

946
00:43:12,413 --> 00:43:14,652
Speaker 2: chance this will work. I mean they stink.

947
00:43:15,252 --> 00:43:17,172
Speaker 1: Yeah, I guess that's why they're getting to Greg. They're

948
00:43:17,172 --> 00:43:19,133
Speaker 1: worse than your Titans are. I mean they may have

949
00:43:19,133 --> 00:43:21,052
Speaker 1: one more win, but they're worse. Yeah.

950
00:43:21,093 --> 00:43:23,613
Speaker 2: We're we're finding some life at the end of the year,

951
00:43:23,652 --> 00:43:26,172
Speaker 2: and they are going the complete opposite way.

952
00:43:26,212 --> 00:43:29,252
Speaker 1: The thing about Old Vegas downtown is it smells like cigarette.

953
00:43:29,252 --> 00:43:31,813
Speaker 1: I love it. I prefer it. Do you my last

954
00:43:31,812 --> 00:43:35,572
Speaker 1: fell You really love it? Absolutely might say my last

955
00:43:35,652 --> 00:43:38,452
Speaker 1: five Vegas trips maybe more. We've done Old Vegas night

956
00:43:38,493 --> 00:43:41,133
Speaker 1: every time I'm for a night because you get to

957
00:43:41,133 --> 00:43:43,333
Speaker 1: see like people walking around in weird outfits and stuff

958
00:43:43,332 --> 00:43:45,492
Speaker 1: exactly where I'm going. But you do prefer it. Oh yeah,

959
00:43:45,493 --> 00:43:48,373
Speaker 1: I love it. You just said it. The people watching

960
00:43:48,533 --> 00:43:50,973
Speaker 1: there is there's a Tony Romas. It might be the

961
00:43:51,013 --> 00:43:53,533
Speaker 1: last Tony Romas in the world. What they're for my

962
00:43:53,573 --> 00:43:57,013
Speaker 1: birthday ten a picture of me under the sun. No,

963
00:43:57,053 --> 00:43:59,172
Speaker 1: I'm gonna show you. I love o Vegas. All the

964
00:43:59,172 --> 00:44:01,212
Speaker 1: places to eat in Vegas. You went to Tony Rome. Yeah,

965
00:44:01,252 --> 00:44:03,812
Speaker 1: because it's like the last Maybe Gallenberg and Vegas are

966
00:44:03,812 --> 00:44:06,572
Speaker 1: the last two Tony. That's why you have the picture.

967
00:44:06,573 --> 00:44:09,013
Speaker 1: I don't believe I'm showing you because I believe that

968
00:44:09,893 --> 00:44:12,212
Speaker 1: ROAs Billy. Can you have them put this on the

969
00:44:12,212 --> 00:44:17,013
Speaker 1: podcast in the picture like nobody.

970
00:44:15,292 --> 00:44:17,732
Speaker 5: Goes to I went to ol Vegas for my twenty

971
00:44:17,772 --> 00:44:20,292
Speaker 5: first birthday with my dad and he got two of you,

972
00:44:20,573 --> 00:44:22,852
Speaker 5: uh and his brother and then my friend surprised me

973
00:44:22,893 --> 00:44:24,772
Speaker 5: there and he got a chess tattoo that night.

974
00:44:25,772 --> 00:44:28,573
Speaker 1: Okay, that's very impressive, but I need to go back

975
00:44:28,573 --> 00:44:30,493
Speaker 1: to your dad. He got it. Your dad got a

976
00:44:30,573 --> 00:44:32,813
Speaker 1: chess tattoo. Yeah, the night of my twenty first birthday.

977
00:44:32,812 --> 00:44:35,573
Speaker 1: Is your dad a serial killer? No?

978
00:44:35,573 --> 00:44:39,373
Speaker 5: No, it was like a family crest kind of situation,

979
00:44:39,573 --> 00:44:41,613
Speaker 5: but it was so was he like Scottish?

980
00:44:41,973 --> 00:44:42,573
Speaker 1: No?

981
00:44:42,573 --> 00:44:45,012
Speaker 5: No, but he did use the night of my twenty

982
00:44:45,013 --> 00:44:45,893
Speaker 5: first birthday to get.

983
00:44:45,772 --> 00:44:48,893
Speaker 1: What is the crest? Like? What is your heritage? I'd

984
00:44:48,933 --> 00:44:50,732
Speaker 1: have to show you. I can't really, you can't tell

985
00:44:50,772 --> 00:44:53,332
Speaker 1: me the country describe it? No, I mean, what what

986
00:44:53,332 --> 00:44:54,613
Speaker 1: what's the nationality?

987
00:44:54,893 --> 00:44:57,412
Speaker 5: It's not a nationality, it's more of like a Masonic

988
00:44:57,893 --> 00:45:01,172
Speaker 5: thing that he's made it into his own, like like.

989
00:45:01,093 --> 00:45:03,852
Speaker 1: The Masons or whatever. Okay, so he didn't get like

990
00:45:03,893 --> 00:45:07,493
Speaker 1: a Billy's twenty first in the date tatto. It wasn't

991
00:45:07,533 --> 00:45:09,372
Speaker 1: tattoo he wanted. I was hoping you're gonna tell me.

992
00:45:09,413 --> 00:45:11,093
Speaker 2: You all woke up like the hangover and your dad

993
00:45:11,212 --> 00:45:12,932
Speaker 2: just had a Mike Tyson tattoo or something.

994
00:45:12,973 --> 00:45:15,292
Speaker 1: So did you consider getting it too or did he

995
00:45:15,493 --> 00:45:17,133
Speaker 1: wanted you to get it too? And then you just

996
00:45:17,252 --> 00:45:19,172
Speaker 1: didn't know it was It was definitely like he had

997
00:45:19,252 --> 00:45:22,172
Speaker 1: planned it for a while for your twenty first birthday.

998
00:45:22,252 --> 00:45:24,652
Speaker 1: He planned for him to get a tattoo. Yeah, he

999
00:45:24,852 --> 00:45:27,412
Speaker 1: just struck while the iron was hot, being like a

1000
00:45:27,973 --> 00:45:31,652
Speaker 1: crazy night kind of thing. Oh, sounds like a crazy night.

1001
00:45:32,093 --> 00:45:35,093
Speaker 1: The wife or my mom didn't really appreciate it. Oh,

1002
00:45:35,133 --> 00:45:36,493
Speaker 1: so he didn't tell her what was happening.

1003
00:45:37,812 --> 00:45:38,133
Speaker 3: Wow.

1004
00:45:38,732 --> 00:45:40,652
Speaker 1: So this is what Pete Carroll's up against. Pete Carroll's

1005
00:45:40,652 --> 00:45:42,892
Speaker 1: out doing stuff like this all the time. Wow. So

1006
00:45:43,053 --> 00:45:45,772
Speaker 1: that's a that's a pretty amazing story. So your dad

1007
00:45:45,852 --> 00:45:48,773
Speaker 1: gets the tattoo. Were you there while you got the atto?

1008
00:45:48,852 --> 00:45:49,012
Speaker 3: Yeah?

1009
00:45:49,013 --> 00:45:50,572
Speaker 1: I got it. Were you supportive of it? Yeah?

1010
00:45:50,573 --> 00:45:50,812
Speaker 3: I was?

1011
00:45:51,133 --> 00:45:53,012
Speaker 1: And then the FaceTime we did back to my mom

1012
00:45:53,212 --> 00:45:55,492
Speaker 1: was yeah, it was just as fun. Well, I can

1013
00:45:55,573 --> 00:45:57,533
Speaker 1: compliment Billy's dad. I heard about this story.

1014
00:45:57,933 --> 00:46:00,053
Speaker 2: He took Billy to Vegas and Billy didn't know all

1015
00:46:00,093 --> 00:46:03,053
Speaker 2: his friends were going to be there, so his dad flew, all, no,

1016
00:46:03,133 --> 00:46:04,292
Speaker 2: that's cool, that's a.

1017
00:46:04,332 --> 00:46:06,933
Speaker 1: Very cool thing. The last time I went told Vegas,

1018
00:46:07,013 --> 00:46:08,812
Speaker 1: I have a friend named Sean. I won't say his

1019
00:46:08,933 --> 00:46:12,533
Speaker 1: last name. And he was there too, and he was

1020
00:46:12,613 --> 00:46:14,493
Speaker 1: like in a different part. He was at a different

1021
00:46:14,533 --> 00:46:17,052
Speaker 1: sceno and we walked up to this black jack table

1022
00:46:17,093 --> 00:46:19,892
Speaker 1: and we saw a guy that looked like what we

1023
00:46:20,053 --> 00:46:24,372
Speaker 1: thought Sean would be in like twenty five years. We

1024
00:46:24,533 --> 00:46:27,812
Speaker 1: called him Sean from the future. He looked like him,

1025
00:46:27,852 --> 00:46:30,293
Speaker 1: except you know, he's a little more wrinkled and gray haired,

1026
00:46:30,413 --> 00:46:35,212
Speaker 1: but he had the same like shape and cigarettes. And

1027
00:46:35,332 --> 00:46:37,692
Speaker 1: we were like, let's play black jack with Sean from

1028
00:46:37,692 --> 00:46:41,013
Speaker 1: the future, right, So we text, hey, Sean, it's you

1029
00:46:41,133 --> 00:46:44,453
Speaker 1: from the future. And Sean comes and now he sits

1030
00:46:44,453 --> 00:46:47,692
Speaker 1: a table, so you have Sean and he's looking at

1031
00:46:47,732 --> 00:46:51,573
Speaker 1: his guy from the future, and Sean's very upset that

1032
00:46:51,652 --> 00:46:53,732
Speaker 1: we're calling him Sean from the future because the guy

1033
00:46:53,812 --> 00:46:58,533
Speaker 1: has some characteristics that weren't appealing. Okay, he went a

1034
00:46:58,533 --> 00:47:01,053
Speaker 1: complete compliment. Yeah no, it was not like he was like, oh,

1035
00:47:01,133 --> 00:47:03,293
Speaker 1: this is George Clooney, this is you in the future.

1036
00:47:03,573 --> 00:47:03,692
Speaker 4: Right.

1037
00:47:04,292 --> 00:47:08,292
Speaker 1: We sit there, we play the guys like haggard and

1038
00:47:08,493 --> 00:47:12,172
Speaker 1: miserable and smoking, and at one point he gets up

1039
00:47:12,212 --> 00:47:14,972
Speaker 1: to go to the bathroom and Sean just goes, yeah,

1040
00:47:15,013 --> 00:47:20,453
Speaker 1: that's me from the future. Just surrendered knowledges that that

1041
00:47:20,652 --> 00:47:22,973
Speaker 1: was him from the future. And so that's my got me.

1042
00:47:23,053 --> 00:47:26,252
Speaker 1: So we all have good stories. Tony Romans dad chest tattoo,

1043
00:47:26,573 --> 00:47:28,533
Speaker 1: Sean from the Future sounds like we need to go

1044
00:47:28,533 --> 00:47:31,093
Speaker 1: to Vegas for a game. I would like that. I

1045
00:47:31,133 --> 00:47:33,932
Speaker 1: think that would be fun. We could telgate in old Vegas. Yeah,

1046
00:47:34,053 --> 00:47:35,652
Speaker 1: I actually think that'd be a lot of fun. Where's

1047
00:47:35,692 --> 00:47:38,613
Speaker 1: the field is it? It's kind of off by it self,

1048
00:47:38,652 --> 00:47:40,292
Speaker 1: but I like too far? Okay, I mean you see

1049
00:47:40,292 --> 00:47:42,172
Speaker 1: it in the big room, but out there all right,

1050
00:47:42,252 --> 00:47:45,413
Speaker 1: let's uh all right. So this weekend, of course, Thursday

1051
00:47:45,692 --> 00:47:49,013
Speaker 1: is uh is Thanksgiving, and there are three games and

1052
00:47:49,133 --> 00:47:53,013
Speaker 1: it is the fourth annual John Madden Thanksgiving Celebration. So

1053
00:47:53,093 --> 00:47:54,453
Speaker 1: let me I'm gonna read you some of the stuff

1054
00:47:54,453 --> 00:47:57,053
Speaker 1: they're doing here, Drew, What do you think to celebrate

1055
00:47:57,133 --> 00:48:00,332
Speaker 1: Madden's time with the game, Uh, it's gonna be all that.

1056
00:48:00,613 --> 00:48:03,532
Speaker 1: They're gonna have a Madden hallmark to kick off each

1057
00:48:03,613 --> 00:48:07,493
Speaker 1: broadcast that will say, show the best of Madden on

1058
00:48:07,613 --> 00:48:11,013
Speaker 1: Thanksgiving and and what he did. And there'll also be

1059
00:48:11,093 --> 00:48:14,852
Speaker 1: an MVP of each game where ten thousand dollars will

1060
00:48:14,893 --> 00:48:18,013
Speaker 1: be given to the high school football program where the

1061
00:48:18,133 --> 00:48:20,892
Speaker 1: player played. That's kind of nice, isn't it very cool?

1062
00:48:21,013 --> 00:48:24,172
Speaker 1: Very cool? And they're going to have a coin. I

1063
00:48:24,372 --> 00:48:27,772
Speaker 1: like this. The official coin will be John Madden on

1064
00:48:27,852 --> 00:48:31,412
Speaker 1: one side and a turd ducan on the reverse side.

1065
00:48:31,692 --> 00:48:33,172
Speaker 1: Do you remember the turn duck? Of course?

1066
00:48:33,212 --> 00:48:35,613
Speaker 2: I remember the turn duckan. How could you forget the

1067
00:48:35,652 --> 00:48:37,412
Speaker 2: turn duck? I mean I think about the turn duck

1068
00:48:37,453 --> 00:48:37,892
Speaker 2: in every year.

1069
00:48:37,933 --> 00:48:38,172
Speaker 1: John.

1070
00:48:38,533 --> 00:48:41,172
Speaker 2: We need an ai John Madden or something because Thanksgiving

1071
00:48:41,252 --> 00:48:42,972
Speaker 2: it needs all the Madden it can possibly get.

1072
00:48:43,093 --> 00:48:46,573
Speaker 1: But it was incestuous, it was, I mean it was

1073
00:48:47,053 --> 00:48:51,412
Speaker 1: a turn Duckan is like something that says there might

1074
00:48:51,533 --> 00:48:55,333
Speaker 1: be too much radioactivity in the water, isn't it six legs?

1075
00:48:55,453 --> 00:48:56,452
Speaker 1: I think yeah?

1076
00:48:56,493 --> 00:48:59,773
Speaker 2: And it's literally you put a duck inside a turkey

1077
00:48:59,852 --> 00:49:02,172
Speaker 2: and then put a chicken inside that, So you're really

1078
00:49:02,372 --> 00:49:04,692
Speaker 2: loading up on your protein there. But I used to

1079
00:49:04,772 --> 00:49:07,173
Speaker 2: love when he think that would be good. I've always

1080
00:49:07,212 --> 00:49:09,732
Speaker 2: wanted to just from growing up watching Madden. I miss

1081
00:49:10,372 --> 00:49:12,053
Speaker 2: you remember this. He would get on the Telestrader and

1082
00:49:12,212 --> 00:49:14,412
Speaker 2: be like, here's a leg, here's a leg. He would

1083
00:49:14,453 --> 00:49:17,053
Speaker 2: be like circling parts of the turkey. I mean, I

1084
00:49:17,133 --> 00:49:18,972
Speaker 2: still love the NFL and Thanksgiving, but it was all

1085
00:49:18,973 --> 00:49:21,772
Speaker 2: about Madden growing up, and I'm glad they're still recognizing

1086
00:49:21,812 --> 00:49:22,892
Speaker 2: him with all this stuff they're doing.

1087
00:49:23,053 --> 00:49:24,732
Speaker 1: One of the things I think is funny is that

1088
00:49:24,973 --> 00:49:28,892
Speaker 1: the thought that either Tom Brady or Tony Romo every

1089
00:49:28,973 --> 00:49:33,732
Speaker 1: year have to spend Thanksgiving in Detroit. Like they have

1090
00:49:33,812 --> 00:49:35,812
Speaker 1: a very glamorous job and they get a lot of money.

1091
00:49:36,133 --> 00:49:39,652
Speaker 1: But once every year, two years, they're spending Thanksgiving in

1092
00:49:39,732 --> 00:49:41,813
Speaker 1: Detroit and there ain't one thing they can do about.

1093
00:49:42,212 --> 00:49:44,613
Speaker 2: How quickly do you think Tom is on a plane

1094
00:49:44,732 --> 00:49:46,772
Speaker 2: out of Detroit the moment he can well, he leaves

1095
00:49:46,812 --> 00:49:49,252
Speaker 2: in the third quarters on the game from the sky.

1096
00:49:49,413 --> 00:49:51,093
Speaker 2: Lot of people don't realize that's ai Tom.

1097
00:49:51,413 --> 00:49:53,292
Speaker 1: He doesn't stick around for a turkey leg. So there,

1098
00:49:53,692 --> 00:49:56,692
Speaker 1: I don't think so. But the John Minnie Madden Thanksgiving

1099
00:49:56,772 --> 00:50:00,172
Speaker 1: celebration began in twenty twenty two and it is throughout

1100
00:50:00,252 --> 00:50:01,613
Speaker 1: the games this weekend.

1101
00:50:01,652 --> 00:50:04,732
Speaker 2: And that's that's very cool, great, great way to honor him.

1102
00:50:04,732 --> 00:50:07,412
Speaker 2: Like I said, I mean my memories of Thanksgiving Day

1103
00:50:07,453 --> 00:50:09,973
Speaker 2: growing up. It's his voice and that turned uck in

1104
00:50:10,093 --> 00:50:11,292
Speaker 2: and all the things that came with it.

1105
00:50:11,573 --> 00:50:15,172
Speaker 1: Yeah, all right, So now it is time for the

1106
00:50:15,413 --> 00:50:19,772
Speaker 1: Victory Bundle, presented by a Liberty Mutual. We picked three games.

1107
00:50:20,533 --> 00:50:23,453
Speaker 1: I think last week we won this. I don't remember.

1108
00:50:24,013 --> 00:50:25,493
Speaker 1: Just say it, nobody will look it up. Old On,

1109
00:50:25,613 --> 00:50:28,932
Speaker 1: I've got my I didn't ask you. I didn't good Bill,

1110
00:50:28,933 --> 00:50:33,093
Speaker 1: and I ask you to contribute to this. I will

1111
00:50:33,172 --> 00:50:36,013
Speaker 1: let you pick a team, but do not do not

1112
00:50:36,292 --> 00:50:39,172
Speaker 1: question whether or not we we won. I'm sitting here

1113
00:50:39,252 --> 00:50:41,933
Speaker 1: looking at the games. I don't love my chances, but

1114
00:50:42,053 --> 00:50:45,453
Speaker 1: I will take Billy's Tampa Bay Bucks to cover the

1115
00:50:45,533 --> 00:50:49,133
Speaker 1: three and a half and beat Arizona at one o'clock

1116
00:50:49,212 --> 00:50:51,812
Speaker 1: on Sunday. So my team will be Tampa Bay. What

1117
00:50:51,893 --> 00:50:52,532
Speaker 1: about you, Drew?

1118
00:50:53,613 --> 00:50:56,093
Speaker 2: Since we both liked the Bengals cover in seven, so

1119
00:50:56,133 --> 00:50:57,613
Speaker 2: we said other should we just throw that in.

1120
00:50:57,652 --> 00:50:59,212
Speaker 1: As part of this you want to make it part

1121
00:50:59,252 --> 00:51:04,252
Speaker 1: of the Madden Day. Beyond that, I really want to

1122
00:51:04,292 --> 00:51:05,933
Speaker 1: believe in the Bills. Where are we on the Bills?

1123
00:51:06,212 --> 00:51:07,892
Speaker 1: Three and a half? Had pittsman? It is on the road.

1124
00:51:07,973 --> 00:51:10,332
Speaker 1: It can't be vet. Yeah, I don't know. I think

1125
00:51:10,372 --> 00:51:12,292
Speaker 1: i'd stay away from that. Okay, let's stay away from that.

1126
00:51:12,533 --> 00:51:17,773
Speaker 1: I'm going Can Kirk Cousins beat the Jets?

1127
00:51:18,332 --> 00:51:18,372
Speaker 3: No?

1128
00:51:18,493 --> 00:51:22,412
Speaker 1: I do not ever bet on the falcon you Okay, Well,

1129
00:51:22,413 --> 00:51:25,093
Speaker 1: we can't do Dolphin Saints? Throw that out? I mean,

1130
00:51:25,133 --> 00:51:27,452
Speaker 1: why don't we do this? There's three games, so why

1131
00:51:27,453 --> 00:51:30,452
Speaker 1: don't we just pick the Thursday? The Thanks? All right,

1132
00:51:30,493 --> 00:51:34,613
Speaker 1: so you're gonna take the Bengals, Let's try to collectively

1133
00:51:34,692 --> 00:51:38,013
Speaker 1: cot I like the Lions get light because that's a

1134
00:51:38,053 --> 00:51:41,013
Speaker 1: big upfield advantage. Are you good with that? Bailly? All right,

1135
00:51:41,053 --> 00:51:44,493
Speaker 1: so let's do Lions. We'll do Bengals and then Chiefs Cowboys.

1136
00:51:45,893 --> 00:51:48,773
Speaker 1: This is tough. I just don't see the Chiefs losing.

1137
00:51:48,852 --> 00:51:51,252
Speaker 1: I wish it were two and a half instead of three,

1138
00:51:52,053 --> 00:51:54,533
Speaker 1: but it's three. I'm still gonna take the Chiefs and

1139
00:51:54,573 --> 00:51:56,412
Speaker 1: then I might end up with a push, but I'll

1140
00:51:56,692 --> 00:51:56,973
Speaker 1: take it.

1141
00:51:57,413 --> 00:51:59,212
Speaker 2: I like that pick, even though I'll be wearing my

1142
00:51:59,292 --> 00:52:02,573
Speaker 2: Cowboys sweatshirt to dinner. The Chiefs have a lot more

1143
00:52:02,613 --> 00:52:04,692
Speaker 2: to play for. The Cowboys offense has been fun, but

1144
00:52:04,772 --> 00:52:05,973
Speaker 2: they still have plenty of holes.

1145
00:52:06,652 --> 00:52:10,972
Speaker 1: So we're taking Chiefs, Lions and Bengals and that will

1146
00:52:11,013 --> 00:52:15,292
Speaker 1: be our victory Bundle. Presented by Liberty Mutual. Start your

1147
00:52:15,372 --> 00:52:18,412
Speaker 1: quote at libertymutual dot com.

1148
00:52:18,533 --> 00:52:21,093
Speaker 5: When you start eating Thanksgiving dinner, is it during the

1149
00:52:21,332 --> 00:52:23,093
Speaker 5: Chiefs Cowboys Thursday?

1150
00:52:23,332 --> 00:52:25,332
Speaker 1: I have to cook the turkey this year, so everyone's

1151
00:52:25,372 --> 00:52:27,133
Speaker 1: on my time and I don't really know when I'm

1152
00:52:27,172 --> 00:52:29,053
Speaker 1: going to do that. It's gotten earlier every year.

1153
00:52:29,093 --> 00:52:29,292
Speaker 3: For me.

1154
00:52:29,493 --> 00:52:32,093
Speaker 1: We used to eat around four thirty and now as

1155
00:52:32,212 --> 00:52:35,372
Speaker 1: my parents get older, my parents are now to the

1156
00:52:35,413 --> 00:52:38,812
Speaker 1: point that they're eating dinner at two fifty. So since

1157
00:52:38,852 --> 00:52:41,692
Speaker 1: this is lunch, you know, they're like, okay, nine to

1158
00:52:41,772 --> 00:52:45,453
Speaker 1: thirty in the morning time for lunch. So to this

1159
00:52:45,613 --> 00:52:49,772
Speaker 1: year it's at one. It start at three, and then

1160
00:52:49,852 --> 00:52:52,013
Speaker 1: I was told everybody may get too hungry, so we

1161
00:52:52,093 --> 00:52:54,732
Speaker 1: were going to do two, and now we've moved it

1162
00:52:54,812 --> 00:52:57,212
Speaker 1: up to one. That's pre halftime of the first game

1163
00:52:57,292 --> 00:52:59,613
Speaker 1: that you're going to be serving turkey. I know, but

1164
00:52:59,893 --> 00:53:01,573
Speaker 1: that's when they want to do it. That's right.

1165
00:53:01,732 --> 00:53:03,172
Speaker 2: By the time, she's going to be asking you why

1166
00:53:03,172 --> 00:53:05,772
Speaker 2: people are in Detroit on Thanksgiving right as that game

1167
00:53:05,772 --> 00:53:06,133
Speaker 2: picked up.

1168
00:53:06,372 --> 00:53:08,093
Speaker 1: Yeah, so this is like this is there are a

1169
00:53:08,093 --> 00:53:11,813
Speaker 1: lot of people with this usually because this is like Larry,

1170
00:53:11,933 --> 00:53:14,412
Speaker 1: my stepdad's family, and so it's a lot of extended people,

1171
00:53:14,453 --> 00:53:17,493
Speaker 1: and there are always children there and now they're grown,

1172
00:53:17,933 --> 00:53:21,293
Speaker 1: and I always forget. I don't know if I should

1173
00:53:21,292 --> 00:53:22,733
Speaker 1: say this, because some of these people may be listening.

1174
00:53:22,732 --> 00:53:27,333
Speaker 1: I always forget which kid is who, forget the names.

1175
00:53:27,973 --> 00:53:31,252
Speaker 1: That's tough. Well, I mean this is now these are

1176
00:53:31,332 --> 00:53:35,332
Speaker 1: I guess my Okay, what's the math here? So my

1177
00:53:35,533 --> 00:53:38,492
Speaker 1: dad and his dad, my dad and his brother, right,

1178
00:53:39,252 --> 00:53:43,733
Speaker 1: his kids and me are cousins. Okay, but their kids

1179
00:53:43,852 --> 00:53:48,532
Speaker 1: are first cousin once removed. Is that right? That's the case,

1180
00:53:49,053 --> 00:53:51,532
Speaker 1: isn't that right? I think? So these are my first

1181
00:53:51,652 --> 00:53:54,973
Speaker 1: cousins once removed, and they all have like three kids,

1182
00:53:55,573 --> 00:53:57,493
Speaker 1: and I'm kind I kind of think they're all the

1183
00:53:57,533 --> 00:54:00,772
Speaker 1: same people, just off the same, just running around while

1184
00:54:00,772 --> 00:54:03,652
Speaker 1: you're trying to watch football. Yeah, and I remember name,

1185
00:54:03,812 --> 00:54:07,532
Speaker 1: like I know there's one name, Charlie to shout that out,

1186
00:54:07,533 --> 00:54:11,613
Speaker 1: so I do know and he's the he's a guy. Okay.

1187
00:54:12,292 --> 00:54:16,053
Speaker 1: We're getting somewhere, so I'm able to separate the genders, Okay,

1188
00:54:17,372 --> 00:54:20,972
Speaker 1: but generally I just go, man, it's good, good to see. Yeah,

1189
00:54:21,172 --> 00:54:24,772
Speaker 1: go Lie. You live in Seattle? Oh no, Buffalo? Okay, yeah,

1190
00:54:25,613 --> 00:54:29,372
Speaker 1: same thing. It's up there one of the ways. So

1191
00:54:29,533 --> 00:54:31,412
Speaker 1: that's the conversation I'll have on Oh you got something

1192
00:54:31,413 --> 00:54:34,292
Speaker 1: to talk about if it's Buffalo, now, yeah, I don't

1193
00:54:34,292 --> 00:54:39,172
Speaker 1: know if they live in completely Okay, I have absolutely

1194
00:54:39,493 --> 00:54:42,372
Speaker 1: no idea. All right, so you're in the Survivor League.

1195
00:54:42,413 --> 00:54:44,292
Speaker 1: Let's start with that. I am. There has been a

1196
00:54:44,453 --> 00:54:47,652
Speaker 1: challenge flag thrown on the Survivor lea. Yet what is

1197
00:54:47,772 --> 00:54:48,253
Speaker 1: the inquiry?

1198
00:54:48,893 --> 00:54:49,013
Speaker 5: Uh?

1199
00:54:49,093 --> 00:54:51,172
Speaker 1: The inquiry is there are people who suggest you've picked

1200
00:54:51,212 --> 00:54:57,213
Speaker 1: the Seahawks twice. Is that plausible to my organized notes,

1201
00:54:57,453 --> 00:55:00,332
Speaker 1: I have only picked the Seahawks once. I'm told that

1202
00:55:00,453 --> 00:55:05,212
Speaker 1: you've picked Seattle two of the last three weeks. Mm hmm. Well,

1203
00:55:05,252 --> 00:55:07,212
Speaker 1: I am on the Jackson the thing Jibba train. But

1204
00:55:07,692 --> 00:55:09,212
Speaker 1: I don't know. You've been fading the Titans for the

1205
00:55:09,292 --> 00:55:09,812
Speaker 1: last three weeks.

1206
00:55:09,852 --> 00:55:12,493
Speaker 5: It seems like they followed him along around And I

1207
00:55:12,692 --> 00:55:15,133
Speaker 5: was gonna mention that I can't pick that game this week.

1208
00:55:15,172 --> 00:55:17,052
Speaker 5: I've already picked the Jags, so there is a sense

1209
00:55:17,053 --> 00:55:17,613
Speaker 5: of organization.

1210
00:55:18,172 --> 00:55:20,972
Speaker 1: First of all, don't change the subject here, sir. Are

1211
00:55:21,013 --> 00:55:23,772
Speaker 1: you suggesting you have not cheated by picking the Seahawks.

1212
00:55:23,812 --> 00:55:26,532
Speaker 1: I am a man of honor. I would not knowingly cheat.

1213
00:55:27,573 --> 00:55:31,933
Speaker 1: I'm going to say the call is not confirmed, it's inconclusive.

1214
00:55:33,013 --> 00:55:34,692
Speaker 1: We do have to go with the call in the field.

1215
00:55:34,893 --> 00:55:36,212
Speaker 2: We do put a lot of trust in him there

1216
00:55:36,252 --> 00:55:38,373
Speaker 2: with his notes. We just assumed that everything he's writing

1217
00:55:38,413 --> 00:55:40,493
Speaker 2: down we can trust. I don't know if we can

1218
00:55:40,573 --> 00:55:42,452
Speaker 2: to Johnson Dart even running a touchdown or.

1219
00:55:42,413 --> 00:55:43,772
Speaker 1: Did you make that up? So he sure did. It

1220
00:55:43,852 --> 00:55:45,453
Speaker 1: was the first touchout of the day that day. I

1221
00:55:45,533 --> 00:55:47,772
Speaker 1: made sure everybody knows. So what is your pick this week?

1222
00:55:48,292 --> 00:55:50,493
Speaker 5: Well, like I said, I can't pick the Jags because

1223
00:55:50,973 --> 00:55:52,893
Speaker 5: I just can't follow the Titans around him anymore.

1224
00:55:53,013 --> 00:55:54,772
Speaker 1: Try to pick the Seahawks again, So.

1225
00:55:55,172 --> 00:55:57,012
Speaker 5: I guess I'll stay away from them too, even though

1226
00:55:57,053 --> 00:56:00,172
Speaker 5: they have their hands full with the Vikings backup quarterback.

1227
00:56:00,652 --> 00:56:02,852
Speaker 5: I'm gonna go with the Miami Dolphins. They are at

1228
00:56:02,893 --> 00:56:06,332
Speaker 5: home against the New Orleans Saints. Really, Tua comes off

1229
00:56:06,372 --> 00:56:08,892
Speaker 5: of a bye you got a little momentum going. I

1230
00:56:08,933 --> 00:56:10,172
Speaker 5: don't can't see another time.

1231
00:56:10,493 --> 00:56:12,413
Speaker 1: Is there a reason you haven't You're not picking the Chargers.

1232
00:56:12,692 --> 00:56:16,453
Speaker 1: I've already picked them. Okay that I do know the

1233
00:56:16,533 --> 00:56:19,693
Speaker 1: team that Dolphins. That is a what about the Rams?

1234
00:56:19,732 --> 00:56:22,853
Speaker 1: Have you picked them? I've picked the Rams. I believe Dolphins.

1235
00:56:22,893 --> 00:56:26,652
Speaker 1: That's a risky. I couldn't imagine whole Dolphin Rams. I

1236
00:56:26,692 --> 00:56:28,652
Speaker 1: have not picked the Rams. So you would rather have

1237
00:56:28,893 --> 00:56:32,613
Speaker 1: Dolphins against the Saints over Rams against the Panthers. Yes,

1238
00:56:33,172 --> 00:56:36,892
Speaker 1: the Saints have been very competitive in these games. Yeah,

1239
00:56:36,973 --> 00:56:41,133
Speaker 1: against the NFC South. All right, I think this, can

1240
00:56:41,172 --> 00:56:42,613
Speaker 1: I go on record, I think this is a mistake.

1241
00:56:43,172 --> 00:56:47,253
Speaker 1: Scampbell with the Dolphins. Well, my integrity is getting questioned

1242
00:56:47,573 --> 00:56:49,053
Speaker 1: this week too, so this is going to be a

1243
00:56:49,093 --> 00:56:52,212
Speaker 1: big week for me. All right, So Billy picks the Dolphins. Now,

1244
00:56:52,292 --> 00:56:56,892
Speaker 1: let's do the let's let's do the touchdown picks. I

1245
00:56:56,973 --> 00:56:59,613
Speaker 1: have no idea whose turn it is. Last week, you

1246
00:56:59,692 --> 00:57:02,292
Speaker 1: and I hit I know, but I have five. I

1247
00:57:02,933 --> 00:57:05,212
Speaker 1: went first last week. I'm dressed too, So if you

1248
00:57:05,292 --> 00:57:07,292
Speaker 1: went first, I mean Billies first this time.

1249
00:57:07,332 --> 00:57:11,013
Speaker 5: So go ahead, Okay, I am going to take traveon

1250
00:57:11,172 --> 00:57:14,652
Speaker 5: Henderson the running back for the New England Patriots. The

1251
00:57:14,732 --> 00:57:17,333
Speaker 5: team that they are playing have these thirty second ranked

1252
00:57:17,372 --> 00:57:19,372
Speaker 5: rushing defense this week. That's the New York Giants, who

1253
00:57:19,573 --> 00:57:22,093
Speaker 5: just fired their defensive coordinator. Give me a little Monday

1254
00:57:22,173 --> 00:57:25,333
Speaker 5: night football action. Traveon Henderson gets into the end zine.

1255
00:57:25,372 --> 00:57:28,453
Speaker 1: All Right, I like that one. I'm gonna take Pooka Nkua.

1256
00:57:29,733 --> 00:57:33,733
Speaker 1: He's my wide receiver playing against the Panthers on the road.

1257
00:57:33,773 --> 00:57:36,733
Speaker 1: He's had a great year. So I'm gonna take Poka

1258
00:57:36,813 --> 00:57:39,693
Speaker 1: Nakua to continue my lead. And that means you have

1259
00:57:39,773 --> 00:57:41,293
Speaker 1: to pick a quarterback. Hmm.

1260
00:57:41,852 --> 00:57:43,852
Speaker 2: Now, I feel like I've been stuck with quarterbacks a lot.

1261
00:57:44,053 --> 00:57:46,412
Speaker 2: You have, but that's because I but I don't know

1262
00:57:46,453 --> 00:57:49,733
Speaker 2: if I've picked so I've done Josh Allen, I think, Lamar,

1263
00:57:50,733 --> 00:57:51,653
Speaker 2: do you have these written down?

1264
00:57:51,733 --> 00:57:55,773
Speaker 1: I don't know. I've disproportionately had more quarterbacks than you think. Well,

1265
00:57:55,813 --> 00:57:57,852
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what. Let's just go crazy. Who's my

1266
00:57:57,933 --> 00:58:00,492
Speaker 1: guy from the Vikings? Oh no, no, no, no, no, stop.

1267
00:58:00,573 --> 00:58:02,573
Speaker 1: You don't want that one. You don't want to pick

1268
00:58:02,693 --> 00:58:08,372
Speaker 1: Max Scherzer, Brosmer, Brosmer. I'm going Max Brosmer. You're not

1269
00:58:08,693 --> 00:58:11,933
Speaker 1: picking Max Broser. Okay, out of the odds. See what

1270
00:58:12,053 --> 00:58:14,013
Speaker 1: the odds are for Max? I've already picked all the

1271
00:58:14,093 --> 00:58:16,173
Speaker 1: known names because I keep getting stuck with third in this,

1272
00:58:16,333 --> 00:58:19,293
Speaker 1: so I've I've already done Alan Jackson, all the guys

1273
00:58:19,333 --> 00:58:21,533
Speaker 1: that run we learn on Monday. Bryce Young doesn't know

1274
00:58:21,573 --> 00:58:23,133
Speaker 1: how to run into the end zone. So I mean

1275
00:58:23,213 --> 00:58:27,053
Speaker 1: there's you could do. You could do cam war zone runs.

1276
00:58:27,173 --> 00:58:30,892
Speaker 1: You could do Daniel Jones and Justin Herbert has fifty

1277
00:58:30,973 --> 00:58:33,733
Speaker 1: rushing yards. You're talking to me in anything better? Wait

1278
00:58:33,773 --> 00:58:38,972
Speaker 1: a minute. You could do Jamis. Oh, Jamis. That's that's

1279
00:58:39,213 --> 00:58:41,133
Speaker 1: that's a new twist that I haven't done yet. You

1280
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Speaker 1: could do Jamis. I think I'll go James.

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Speaker 5: That's good.

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Speaker 1: You could do dag No he's throwing the pickings and

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Speaker 1: CD he doesn't run, So you want to do Jamis?

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Speaker 1: Are you doing? Max Brosmer? I always stick with your gut.

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Speaker 2: Like back when I would not study for test, whatever

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Speaker 2: letter I looked at first would be the one I

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Speaker 2: would answer right.

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Speaker 1: So look up what is Max Brosmer's ods? Because here's

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Speaker 1: because if the odds are high enough, I'm gonna do

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Speaker 1: something special for Okay, what are the odds I'm not.

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Speaker 1: It's gotta be five plus five hundred, right, you don't

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Speaker 1: even think it's on there. I don't see it. There's

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Speaker 1: no way that I don't believe. What if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: play and I guess I'll lose, I'll give you if

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Speaker 1: he doesn't play out the game. Okay, Okay, So Jamis

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Speaker 1: or Brosmer here, do you want that if he doesn't

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Speaker 1: If he doesn't play, I'll give you Jamie. I haven't

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Speaker 1: waivered on Brosmer. You are wavering for me? All right. Well,

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Speaker 1: it doesn't look like they've put up the player props yet.

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Speaker 1: But I'll tell you this. If it is over plus

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Speaker 1: one thousand, then if you get it, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: two points. Okay? Is that fair? I'm getting it and

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Speaker 1: I'm betting it whatever it is. So if it's over

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Speaker 1: plus one thousand when it comes out, I'll give you

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Speaker 1: two points. If it's not, you only get one point. Okay.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it'll be that high, but we'll see.

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Speaker 1: We'll find out. So if you're want to do a parlay,

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Speaker 1: that will play pay big Trevion Anderson, Puka Nakua and

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Speaker 1: Max Brosmer. He had fifteen rushing touchdowns in college. Okay,

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Speaker 1: then it won't be bring it all right, so you're

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Speaker 1: only going to get one point. You are trying to

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Speaker 1: talk me out of my pick. I hope I'm the

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Speaker 1: only one that gets it. If you are, you should

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Speaker 1: talk trash all right. Well, everybody, enjoy your Thanksgiving, Billy,

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Speaker 1: enjoy your hat. And on Black Friday, Uh, don't don't

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Speaker 1: be too crazy with your shopping. NFL. Did you really promoed?

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Speaker 1: You think you are the one that needs to promo

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Speaker 1: NFL shop. I'm sure it doesn't hurt. Okay, fair enough,

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