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Speaker 1: the way tire buying should be. It's good to have

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Speaker 1: Carrie in the house today, Carr. We got a lot

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Speaker 1: to catch up on. But as I said at the

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Speaker 1: top of the show, every day is a football day.

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Speaker 1: We were reminded that a couple of times recently, just

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Speaker 1: the force of the National Football League the Divisional round

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Speaker 1: of the playoffs. Each game averaged over forty million viewers

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Speaker 1: last week.

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Speaker 3: That's a lot forty.

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Speaker 2: Million, to put that in perspective.

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Speaker 1: On Thursday nights, South Carolina played LSU and a women's

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Speaker 1: collegiate basketball game, much anticipated South Carolina number one in

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Speaker 1: the country, of course, LSU defending champions. They had more

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Speaker 1: viewers than the two NBA games that night, one of

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Speaker 1: them between the Celtics and the Heat. The other was

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Speaker 1: the Kings and the Warriors. And that number for those

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Speaker 1: NBA games was under one point five million? Was it

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Speaker 1: really under one point five million? And that's what the

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Speaker 1: Celtics and the Warriors in these games. So when we

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Speaker 1: talk about the distance between the National Football League and

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Speaker 1: everything else, you're just like, right now, we got Denver

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Speaker 1: and Philadelphia's a game I'm interested in because the Nuggets

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Speaker 1: have been sort of playing when they have to during

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Speaker 1: this regular season. And of course, the last time Embiid

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Speaker 1: was on the floor, he put up seventy and then

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Speaker 1: we had Donchets put up seventy three and Carl Anthony

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Speaker 1: Towns he had a sixty plus game. Devin Booker at

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Speaker 1: a sixty plus game, which almost tells me at this

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Speaker 1: point of the NBA season, they have made the regular

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Speaker 1: season so meaningless. They tried with that Kakamami in season tournament.

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Speaker 1: How that worked for the Lakers? Did they won THEEAH

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Speaker 1: They did? They are champions. They put up a banner.

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Speaker 1: But I'm sorry, the NBA has got problems. I don't

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Speaker 1: know what they're gonna do. They're they're playing these games

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Speaker 1: like their exhibition games. No defense is being played memory.

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Speaker 1: We were critical of All Star Games the last ten

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Speaker 1: years or so, where it's just it's like watching the

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Speaker 1: old Globe Trotters, where you have, you know, the sacrificial

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Speaker 1: lambs as the Globetrotters do their thing, and that's what

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Speaker 1: we're seeing. A lot in the NBA doesn't seem to

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Speaker 1: be a whole lot of effort. Guys are going to

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Speaker 1: put up some astronomical, scory numbers. I don't mind that,

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Speaker 1: by the way. I like seeing guys score a lot

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Speaker 1: of points. But again, Carrie, we're talking about apples and oranges.

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Speaker 1: There is no comparison. The NFL rules the sports world.

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Speaker 4: I mean, it really does. And I think with the

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Speaker 4: with the NFL and football in general. Right like a

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Speaker 4: lot of us are invested in it because of the games,

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Speaker 4: because the competition, because we want we really want to

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Speaker 4: see the outcome of who wins, who loses. But we

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Speaker 4: also have the fans that just want to be a

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Speaker 4: part of a party and be a part of something

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Speaker 4: the hot thing that's happening right now, that's the playoffs,

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Speaker 4: and so you'll see the wives, the girlfriends, all these

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Speaker 4: sport at all, and the NBA it is, it's so

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Speaker 4: watered down. You don't have real consequences with the loss

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Speaker 4: it's just not going to happen in this day and age.

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Speaker 4: So it's it's not a good place to be right now.

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Speaker 1: One thing that has always bothered me over the years

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Speaker 3: It'll be the best of the best, the.

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Speaker 1: Best of the best, right, So, got you wouldn't have

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Speaker 1: teams that are not competitive, yeah, like you have now

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Speaker 1: in the NBA. And this is the problem with expansion.

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Speaker 1: I understand it's all about money and everything else, but

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Speaker 1: you can't say that because they did it forty to

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Speaker 1: fifty sixty years ago, it doesn't count. Well. The competition

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Speaker 4: And so I guess the retort to that would be

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Speaker 4: just the skill level, right, so you can be the

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Speaker 4: best of the best, the best at that time, A

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Speaker 4: lot of those guys were doing that as their day job,

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Speaker 4: I mean as their job, but their day job with

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Speaker 4: something else, right, And so it's hard to say that

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Speaker 4: but they weren't making enough for for their livelihoods, right,

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Speaker 4: So remember, so think about that part of it, right,

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Speaker 4: So are they are they the best of the best.

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Speaker 4: They're the best at that time, but the times have

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Speaker 3: So it's I.

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Speaker 4: But when you talk about the skill level and what

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Speaker 1: It, Carrie. I'm going to take it back in time,

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Speaker 1: as I often do. One of the reasons that the NBA,

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Speaker 1: when you watch old films, look slow is that in

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Speaker 1: those days, illegal dribble was on top of the ball. Yep,

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Speaker 1: There's no crossover on the on the dribble. You you

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Speaker 2: Yeah, obviously in the NBA that's long gone.

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Speaker 1: Whatever we see now was not allowed back in those days.

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Speaker 2: You had to I was, I go back so far.

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Speaker 1: I was taught to dribble and you had to keep

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Speaker 1: the fact that they eliminated that rule without actually writing

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Speaker 1: and it gives the players an opportunity to do things

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Speaker 1: things you simply can't do if you have to dribble

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Speaker 4: Well, and at that time, obviously the caveat with with

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Speaker 4: even what you're saying now is it wasn't about the

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Speaker 3: It was about passing the ball.

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Speaker 4: Yes, So that's the difference. I guess that would be

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Speaker 4: the caveat in that situation. Yeah, I mean, you wouldn't

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Speaker 1: All right, let's exhaust our basketball talk and get to

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Speaker 1: the NFL. All right, we have two games tomorrow. The

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Speaker 1: was up, plenty of time to break down these games.

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Speaker 1: It's been a very busy week around the NFL as

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Speaker 1: far as coaching hires a concern. And let's start with

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Speaker 1: the biggest name on the board, and that's Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: And I'm going to go back to the day that

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Speaker 1: Rannon Staley was fired as the coach of the Chargers

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Speaker 1: after the embarrassing blowout loss in Las Vegas. And yes,

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Speaker 1: I was at that game with my sons. Showed you

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Speaker 1: And then of course Tom to LESCo was fired as well, who,

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Speaker 1: So Bernie brings me on and I said, understand this, Bernie.

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Speaker 1: The League has intervened on the Chargers, and the reason

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Speaker 1: they have intervened is that the Chargers have been in

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Speaker 1: LA for a number of years now and have made

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Speaker 1: no inroads in the LA market, none whatsoever. And the

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Speaker 1: one way and the only way that they're going to

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Speaker 1: back in December. Now people are and then he's like, well,

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Speaker 1: what are some of the other names. I go, Bernie,

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Speaker 1: you're not hearing me. There are no other names. There's

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Speaker 1: the slightest in the LA market, and that's Jim Harbaugh.

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Speaker 1: And this is even before he won the national championship.

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Speaker 1: What about the money. They don't spend the money on coach.

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Speaker 1: The league is going to mandate it. We don't care

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Speaker 1: what the cost is. You are going to bring Jim

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh in as the coach of this franchise. You've had

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Speaker 1: a free ride. You're not in San Diego anymore. We

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Speaker 1: done nothing with that, and that's going to change. So

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Speaker 1: thoughts in on the Harbaugh hiring by the Chargers. What

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Speaker 1: impact because you're in this market as well, obviously, do

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Speaker 1: you think Jim Harbaugh has on the profile of the

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Speaker 4: Oh, it's astronomical. I mean, the guy's won everywhere. He's

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Speaker 4: been every product, he's literally put his name on it.

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Speaker 4: You can even go back to when he was playing quarterbacks. Still,

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Speaker 4: I mean, people don't really understand the power that he

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Speaker 4: He's been on TV shows, He's been on Saved by

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Speaker 4: the Bail for God's sake, you know, he's been on.

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Speaker 4: He has a reach that's bigger than a lot of

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Speaker 4: people may imagine. But outside of that, his connection with

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Speaker 4: his team, with his players and with his quarterbacks has

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Speaker 4: like that to your program, proven winner, and you talk

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Speaker 4: about the Chargers, right, they supposedly have that that stud.

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Speaker 3: As well at that quarterback position. Right.

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Speaker 4: I Mean, I think he's good, but I don't know

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Speaker 4: what he can do yet. He hasn't fulfilled that but

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Speaker 1: First of all, Adam it's great to have you on,

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Speaker 1: ask you, how surprised are you that it appears Bill

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Speaker 8: Well, I can tell you that a lot of us

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Speaker 1: I'm breaking down film of you know, black and white

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Speaker 7: But it is what it is.

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Speaker 1: We have four teams left, and the home teams are

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Speaker 1: ers offense this week?

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Speaker 7: Yees see?

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Speaker 8: If you're right, they look boy, they look like they

437
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Speaker 8: were not in sync.

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Speaker 7: Rock Party did not play well. Now I give them credit.

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Speaker 8: The fourth quarter they did what they had to do

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Speaker 8: outscoring them the opponent ten and nothing. They showed they

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Speaker 8: could actually come back in a game. You know, the

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Speaker 8: issue with the West Coast offensive teams is they're very

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Speaker 8: highly programmed. They play a specific way. They're all about balance.

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Speaker 8: That's what Kyle Shanahan wants and they don't want Brock

445
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Speaker 8: already throwing a ton and he had to.

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Speaker 7: It brought him back.

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Speaker 8: He didn't play great, but the bottom line is he

448
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Speaker 8: brought them back and they handled business against an inferior team.

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Speaker 7: I give the Packers' credit.

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Speaker 8: They closed the season really well, but they were pretty

451
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Speaker 8: mediocre through all of it. Now here a couple of

452
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Speaker 8: things that Deebo Samuel is going to play. He got

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Speaker 8: cleared of medically to play after Friday's practice, so he's

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Speaker 8: going to be good to go here now they think

455
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Speaker 8: he'll be able. The contact thing will not be a problem.

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Speaker 8: That's their thinking. It was a pain tolerance thing. He's

457
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Speaker 8: had problems of leaving games early. He left last week's

458
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Speaker 8: game early and didn't return, so you always have to

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Speaker 8: watch that. But I am worried about Detroit's offensive line.

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Speaker 8: They are really banged up. That's an area where they're

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Speaker 8: banged up. And their secondary has been an absolute sieve.

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Speaker 8: But the thing they can do and they could score

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Speaker 8: on anybody, it doesn't matter what the defense is. They've

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Speaker 8: shown the ability to do it. That's the thing. And yeah,

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Speaker 8: the spread is depending which booky you look at. At

466
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Speaker 8: seven and a half or seven, that's what I got

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Speaker 8: them all right against the number verified on Sports Grid.

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Speaker 8: I do TV for them, but this is a lot

469
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Speaker 8: like Steve. I'm kana sneakily agreeing with you, but I'm

470
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Speaker 8: secretly pulling for the lines of my friends there who

471
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Speaker 8: have suffered through a lot of turmoil and losses for decades.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I think the Lions story has been awesome.

473
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Speaker 4: Obviously, it's to see where they are right now, to

474
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Speaker 4: see where they progressed under these few years with Dan

475
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Speaker 4: Campbell is just nothing short than astounding, really, So definitely

476
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Speaker 4: rooting for them. But yeah, I just don't see them

477
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Speaker 4: having enough to get over this San Francisco hurdle even

478
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Speaker 4: I mean, I think San Francisco got their wake up

479
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Speaker 4: call last week and they'll be ready to go. But

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Speaker 4: I want to talk about the Ravens and I want

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Speaker 4: to talk about the Chiefs. Obviously, I think both teams,

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Speaker 4: with even you know, with the Ravens being you know,

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Speaker 4: the quote unquote favorite at home here, I think they're

484
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Speaker 4: both going into this with the underdog mentality. The Ravens

485
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Speaker 4: obviously have been playing well and been pumbling teams that

486
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Speaker 4: are that are in the playoffs or have been in

487
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Speaker 4: the playoffs and are playing at a really high clip.

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Speaker 4: But I know them and I talked to you know,

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Speaker 4: I talked to Lamar a little bit this past week,

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Speaker 4: and just the chip that they have on their shoulders.

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Speaker 4: Still they go into every game feeling like they're the underdog,

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Speaker 4: which is a crazy thing to have with the talent

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Speaker 4: that they have.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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Speaker 4: So you have Patrick come into this game playing on

496
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Speaker 4: the road. He just got his first role win last

497
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Speaker 4: week and now he's, you know, got another chance to

498
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Speaker 4: do it this week. How do you see this game

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Speaker 4: plan out from your perspective? I have mine, but I

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Speaker 4: want to hear yours first and see see what you

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Speaker 4: have going at them.

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Speaker 8: Yeah, so with Kansas City, and that was huge for

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Speaker 8: Patrick Mahomes and the Chiefs to show they could win

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Speaker 8: on the road, hostile environment. It was anyone's game. I mean,

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Speaker 8: as you saw, it went down to the wire. They're

506
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Speaker 8: a crazy game. So look, they built that commedy. You

507
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Speaker 8: remember that that late season, regular season swoon.

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Speaker 7: That they had looked ugly.

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Speaker 8: I think a lot of us are saying, what is

510
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Speaker 8: going on with this team? But they've right, They've they've

511
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Speaker 8: kind of ready the ship. Very emotional win, no question about.

512
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Speaker 8: They got to get it up again on the road

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Speaker 8: that carry. I don't know about you, but for I

514
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Speaker 8: didn't play you did, but that was an extremely emotional

515
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Speaker 8: game last week. They've got to show they could handle

516
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Speaker 8: it now. I know the Ravens under Lamar have not

517
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Speaker 8: been very good in the playoffs. It was a dominating performance.

518
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Speaker 8: Let's not forget their defense only give it three points.

519
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Speaker 8: The other seven was on a punt return. Their defense

520
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Speaker 8: is incredible. They're getting it back. Marlin Humphrey the best corner,

521
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Speaker 8: which is huge. They're they're actually the healthiest of the

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Speaker 8: two the Chiefs for the first time in actually a

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Speaker 8: couple of months. They're kind of banged up. Yeah, I

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Speaker 8: like the Ravens to take care of businesses in this game.

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Speaker 8: I kind of the first time I've done this in

526
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Speaker 8: a long time. I actually changed my pick. I was

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Speaker 8: feeling good about it the Chiefs, and then I looked

528
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Speaker 8: a little bit about just ask getting the pins from

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Speaker 8: people I respect.

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Speaker 7: We'll see what happens. But I kind of I'm leaning

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Speaker 7: towards the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: In this Do you respect me? Adam? Sorry?

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Speaker 4: Of course they're gonna win by double digits, double.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, why do you what do you feel that way?

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Speaker 4: What'd you just say? Huh, it's not a blowout. I

536
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Speaker 4: just I mean, ten points, I guess it's a blowout.

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Speaker 4: But I just like the NBA it is, you know,

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Speaker 4: you know what I mean. I just think it'll be

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Speaker 4: double digits. It's just the Ravens are better.

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Speaker 1: Well, I mean, look, it figures to be a forty

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Speaker 1: nine or Ravens Super Bowl now that Jim Harbaugh is

542
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Speaker 1: back in the NFL and his brother.

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Speaker 2: See how this all work.

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Speaker 1: There's always a little symmetry that will lead to teams

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Speaker 1: on a collision course. I know Jim Harbor is not

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Speaker 1: the coach of the forty nine ers like he was

547
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Speaker 1: back in the day, but he is a back game

548
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Speaker 1: last week though, yes, we'll share my thoughts. As you know,

549
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Speaker 1: I'm very deep into the Charger situation, but we'll do

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Speaker 1: it on another day. Great stuff is always Adam, and

551
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Speaker 1: we'll catch up with you next week.

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Speaker 7: And I we back from the Senior Bowl by then.

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Speaker 1: So perfect good stuff. That's Adam Kaplan there our Fox

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Speaker 1: Let's find out what is trending right now, and well,

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Speaker 1: Martin is someone that he and I are on the

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Speaker 1: same page when it comes to Jim Harbor. We are

563
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Speaker 1: we are on the same now. When you will go

564
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Speaker 1: on with VJ though you're gonna you're gonna hit a

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Speaker 1: wall with that one.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's gonna be rock met hard place because

567
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Speaker 9: I have a feeling VJ and I are going to

568
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Speaker 9: disagree vehemently on this.

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Speaker 2: Wow. Okay, well we'll break it down a little.

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Speaker 1: Bit later on.

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Speaker 9: But after doing the show with the guy for a

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Speaker 9: year or so, Yeah, I have a feeling that he's

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Speaker 9: going to be.

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Speaker 1: We're going to disagree.

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Speaker 3: Yes.

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Speaker 1: I always say this about you know, doing radio as

577
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Speaker 1: long as I have. When you have partners, I said,

578
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Speaker 1: imagine being locked into a room with somebody and having

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Speaker 1: any kind.

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Speaker 2: Of conversation, any kind of conversation. Are you argumentative by nature?

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Speaker 3: Martin?

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Speaker 9: I wouldn't say necessarily, And I don't think I just

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Speaker 9: I don't think I.

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Speaker 1: But if you're in this business, you have to have opinions.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's the way it is. Yeah, you got

586
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Speaker 1: to plant a flag. You got to plant the flag,

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Speaker 1: and you can you know if that person in the

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Speaker 1: room with you it is not on the same page.

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Speaker 3: It can depends.

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Speaker 1: Wars are full over flag.

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Speaker 2: Anything else? Upping he out there.

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00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:02,280
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 9: The big chant right now in Denver is where's embiid at?

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Speaker 9: Where's embad at? At the Pepsi Center for the Denver

595
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Speaker 9: Nuggets and their fans as Embiid was ruled out for

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Speaker 9: tonight's game against the Cooleo Kitchen the Denver Nuggets just

597
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Speaker 9: a few minutes before tip. This is his eleventh missed

598
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Speaker 9: game so far this season. Now, the the NBA did

599
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Speaker 9: institute a new rule YEP sixty five game minimum games

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Speaker 9: played to be able to qualify for any legal award,

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Speaker 9: So that means that now on January twenty seventh, throughout

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Speaker 9: the rest of the regular season, Embiid has a window

603
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Speaker 9: of six games left to be able to go ahead

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Speaker 9: and try to defend his award. This is per Sean

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Speaker 9: Little for Chicago Flow on Twitter, he says Embiid has

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Speaker 9: missed five games first teams over five hundred on the

607
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Speaker 9: road versus three games played. Feels like he might be

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Speaker 9: picking and choosing his spots a little bit there. I

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Speaker 9: don't know, especially, you know what's interesting about this game

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Speaker 9: seventy so Yo Kitchen. This game has two points, four

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Speaker 9: rebounds on three assists, but not in bed in there.

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Speaker 1: But he's playing.

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Speaker 3: That's the key.

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Speaker 2: But of course he's always playing.

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Speaker 1: But you would think that he would like, you know,

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Speaker 1: go off, and I guess he decided Embd's not here.

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Speaker 1: Pretty much I'm gonna take the night off and let

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Speaker 1: my teammates do everything. Well, you know who knows it's Jokis.

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Speaker 1: He's still got time.

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Speaker 9: He might finish the game with the seventy two point

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Speaker 9: triple double, a second in the NBA in the NBA

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Speaker 9: these days, But as you just said, jokis not not

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Speaker 9: scoring too much. But the score of the game fifty

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Speaker 9: one a piece. Right now, four thirty left in the

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Speaker 9: second quarter. Paul Reid, MBA's backup I wondered, I'd be like, Yo, yeah,

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Speaker 9: I gotta give me some more money. Man. If Be's

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Speaker 9: is gonna keep missing all these games, I'm playing way

628
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Speaker 9: too much to be a backup center. But he's the

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Speaker 9: high man for Philadelphia with fourteen points. Jamal Murray the

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Speaker 9: high man for Denver with fifteen. NFC, NFC and AFC

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Speaker 9: championship games are tomorrow. As we just heard Adam Kaplan say,

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Speaker 9: Raven's quarterback Marlon Humphrey expected to play. He missed the

633
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Speaker 9: last two Baltimore games with a calf injury. Kadarius Tony

634
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Speaker 9: not expected to play, got a hip injury and personal

635
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Speaker 9: reagions also keeping him out of there. Only healthy tight

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Speaker 9: end tomorrow for Detroit will be Sam Laporta, and again

637
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Speaker 9: he got hurt in a regular season finale, so it's

638
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Speaker 9: going to be light in the tight end room as

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Speaker 9: a Lions will not activate Zach Ertze off the practice squad.

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Speaker 9: Rock Right has a forearm injury. Forty nine ers have

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Speaker 9: no players listening on their injury report, a clean sheet

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Speaker 9: after Deebo Samuel was a full go in practice earlier

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Speaker 9: today and also earlier today was a lot of defensive court.

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Speaker 9: You know, the coaching carousel, the defensive coordinator carousel was.

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Speaker 1: Spinning as well.

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Speaker 9: All right, hang on the Eagles higher former Dolphins defensive

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Speaker 9: coordinator Vic Fangio to coach his defense or to coach

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Speaker 9: Nick Sirianni's defense.

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Speaker 2: Has Fangio on now coach for every team in the league.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, he's had quite a bit.

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Speaker 9: It seems like the Ryan Fitzpatrick of defensive cordinator, Like

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Speaker 9: how many different teams can he coach for? Well one

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Speaker 9: more now the Philadelphia Eagles now former Eagles defensive coordinator

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Speaker 9: showing Decai who was demoted in the middle of the

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Speaker 9: year last year or this season, I should say, he

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Speaker 9: with the Bills and the Falcons for their defensive coordinator,

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Speaker 9: Jesse Minter of Michigan Fame, former Michigan defensive coordinator, he'll

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Speaker 9: go coach with Jim.

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Speaker 1: Harbaugh in LA.

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Speaker 2: That makes sense. He's pretty good and he has NFL experience.

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Speaker 1: He does.

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Speaker 9: Yeah, And then you have DeMarcus Covington, former Patriots defensive

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Speaker 9: line coach, will be promoted to defensive coordinator, and the

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Speaker 9: Chicago Bears have hired Buffalo Bills defensive line coach Eric

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Speaker 9: Washington as their new defensive coordinator. However, Matt Eberfluss will

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Speaker 9: continue to call the defensive plays.

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Speaker 1: Carry and Steve, You're up.

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Speaker 4: You know it's funny state, Like thank you markin How

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Speaker 4: does a guy like the side even get two interviews

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Speaker 4: after what he just went through in Philly, Like go

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Speaker 4: coach in college or something to come back or even

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Speaker 4: a position coach.

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Speaker 1: But if we're going to try to break down why

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Speaker 1: certain guys get hired and why certain guys got get passed,

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Speaker 1: we're gonna have to have an eighteen hour show once again.

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Speaker 1: It's Fox Football Saturday. We're coming in live from the

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Speaker 1: tire rack dot Com studios. All right, before Adam Kaplan

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Speaker 1: joined us, we were talking about the Jim Harbough situation

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Speaker 1: with the Chargers, and so I want to take a

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Speaker 1: step forward here and exactly what the challenges are for

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh, beyond the fact that he is working for

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Speaker 1: a team owned by Dean Spanos, which is a huge obstacle.

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Speaker 1: So one of the problems they have immediately is the

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Speaker 1: cap situation. Remember they haven't even hired a general manager yet,

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Speaker 1: so we still have to get a GM in place.

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Speaker 1: But they're about twenty eight million over the cap. They're

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Speaker 1: two Pro Bowlers this year. We're Keenan Allen and Khalil Mack.

688
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Speaker 1: And Khalil Mack will be in the Hall of Fame someday.

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Speaker 1: And I'm a huge Keenan Allen fan. I have been

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Speaker 1: for a long time. I think he was his sixth

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Speaker 1: Pro Bowl that he made. They're not going to be

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Speaker 1: around because they can't afford them from this point on.

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Speaker 1: They're going to hook on with other teams that can

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Speaker 1: get him under the cap. So you couple that with

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Speaker 1: the fact that you have Derwin James hurt all the time,

696
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Speaker 1: Joey Bosa hurt all the time, Rashaun Slater at that

697
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Speaker 1: great rookie season after the injury hasn't played up to

698
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Speaker 1: that same level. Austin Eckler is done. He's done, And

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Speaker 1: all of a sudden you look around and Mike Williams

700
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Speaker 1: has had injuries. Quinton Johnson obviously couldn't catch the ball

701
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Speaker 1: first round pick out of TCU, So they got holes

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Speaker 1: everywhere on that team. Yeah, it's nice to have a

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Speaker 1: quarterback in place, justin Herbert, But don't you see where

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Speaker 1: this Herbert thing is going. He's basically step for step

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Speaker 1: where Philip Rivers was, where you have a high level

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Speaker 1: quarterback with a mediocre roster and mediocre returns as far

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Speaker 1: as wins and losses is concerned, I don't know how

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Speaker 1: Jim Harbaugh as a head coach is overcoming those obstacles when,

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Speaker 1: as you say, you have other teams just in his

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Speaker 1: own vision who find themselves in a far more stable

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Speaker 1: situation in terms of their personnel.

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Speaker 4: Well, there's a reinvigoration that happens when you bring in

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Speaker 4: that guy. I believe that Hardball's that guy for them.

714
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Speaker 4: Their coach, He's gonna have those guys rally. Facts are facts.

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Speaker 4: Keenan may not be there, Khalil may not be there.

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Speaker 4: We have a new year for these guys to get healthy. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: it hasn't panned out that way for them for for

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Speaker 4: a long time. Right, health has been a big issue

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Speaker 4: with the Chargers. But take out the health concerns because

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Speaker 4: that that's a concern for every team, and that's a

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Speaker 4: concern for every player. It is what it is if

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Speaker 4: they're healthy, which is if just saying they are, they're

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Speaker 4: gonna be healthy next year. They got their guy at coach.

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Speaker 4: He's a way better coach and a way better relationship

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Speaker 4: guy than the last guy ever could be right, And

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Speaker 4: so the exactly so the galvanizing, the galbin in factor

727
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Speaker 4: that happens when you bring that guy in raises the

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Speaker 4: level if he touches the quarterback the way that he

729
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Speaker 4: can touch that quarterback, and that permeates down through that team.

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Speaker 4: X's and o's. We know he can do that, and

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Speaker 4: he's going to hire the right guys around him to

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Speaker 4: do that. The players are going to be healthy. We're

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Speaker 4: going to say that just because we're saying that for

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Speaker 4: the sake of this conversation. They're going to be a

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Speaker 4: factor in AFC West's and I just believe in the

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Speaker 4: human element, the energy element that happens when you bring

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Speaker 4: in that guy. And that's what I'm kind of basing

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Speaker 4: on because all the stuff you said is true and

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Speaker 4: has been the truth for them, But I think when

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Speaker 4: you bring in that guy it changes.

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Speaker 2: Their defense has been a catastrophe.

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Speaker 1: Now he's going to bring his defensive coordinator in from

743
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Speaker 1: Michigan who has NFL experience.

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Speaker 2: But you got to get the right players on the field.

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Speaker 1: Yes, you do, and it's almost a do over as

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Speaker 1: far as that charge of roster is concerned. All right,

747
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Speaker 1: coming up on the other side, we're going to start

748
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Speaker 1: getting into these conference championship games. Which game is most

749
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Speaker 1: likely to see an upset? We'll break it down. This

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Speaker 1: is Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 1: Steve Harbin and Kerrie Rhodse. This is Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 1: We're coming in live from the Tairaq dot com studios.

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Speaker 1: We are very excited about tomorrow and the NFCFC Championship games.

758
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Speaker 1: The Chiefs and the Ravens up first, followed by the

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Speaker 1: Lions and the forty nine Ers. We talked a little

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Speaker 1: bit about these games with Adam Kaplan. Let's go next

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Speaker 1: level here. I would say, if any team is more

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Speaker 1: likely to pull an upset, obviously it'd be the Chiefs

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Speaker 1: over the Lions. But let's talk about the Lions and

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Speaker 1: this game against the forty nine ers. You hear what

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Speaker 1: I had to say with Adam Kaplan. First of all,

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Speaker 1: we warned about this carriy back at the end of

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Speaker 1: the regular season, about taking off Week eighteen and having

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Speaker 1: another bye week. And by the way, even though at

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Speaker 1: the end the Ravens blow out the Texans, it was

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Speaker 1: ten ten at halftime and they were really rusty. They

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Speaker 1: didn't do anything offensively until the second half. Now they

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Speaker 1: woke up the forty nine Ers that took until the

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Speaker 1: last drive apparently to finally wake up from their coma.

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Speaker 1: So my thought process on both these teams is they're

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Speaker 1: going to be much better this week than they were

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Speaker 1: a week ago. But that being said, you have a

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Speaker 1: Lion's team that well, let I want to get your

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Speaker 1: perspective on Dan Campbell and the way he approaches this.

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Speaker 1: You're on the road, You're a touchdown underdog, deservedly so

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Speaker 1: you've had a tremendous season, obviously the best season, deepest

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Speaker 1: run they've had in the playoffs in thirty two years.

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Speaker 1: But how do you think he's approaching his psyche kids?

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Speaker 1: And I mentioned this one other point before it gets

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Speaker 1: your thought here, Jared Goff has been really outspoken on

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Speaker 1: how confident his team is. They are going to win

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Speaker 1: every single game. So do you, it's Dan Campbell, play

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Speaker 1: the underdog card or do you just say we're the

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Speaker 1: better team and put that mindset into your team getting

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Speaker 1: ready for the forty nine ers.

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Speaker 4: I think that's a fine balance of that. I'm sure

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Speaker 4: with this team they're preaching that we are the team

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Speaker 4: to beat. I could feel that energy from them. But

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Speaker 4: I also think there is this underdog mentality with them

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Speaker 4: as well that obviously they've hadn't had success like this.

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Speaker 4: You just said it in thirty something years, right, So

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Speaker 4: they're going to take that approach, the underdog approach. But

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Speaker 4: I know going into the game, they're gonna let it all,

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Speaker 4: let it all hang out, Right, He's already aggressive anyway,

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Speaker 4: almost to almost to a fault, but he's gonna come out,

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Speaker 4: They're gonna lay it all out there, be aggressive, and

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Speaker 4: he's gonna They're gonna go out swinging, So I would

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Speaker 4: say the underdog approach out in the open, but behind

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Speaker 4: closed doors, they're definitely confident that they can win the game.

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Speaker 2: By no stretch of the imagination.

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Speaker 1: Do the Lions have an elite defense, They don't know,

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Speaker 1: but they can put pressure.

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Speaker 3: On the quarterback opportunistic too.

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Speaker 1: And we saw Brock Purty last week under pressure against

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Speaker 1: literally one of the worst defenses in the league, which

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Speaker 1: the Packers statistically were so much so they got rid

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Speaker 1: of their defensive coordinator right after going deep into the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: So the one thing they were able to do against

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Speaker 1: Rock Purdy was put pressure on him. And you know,

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Speaker 1: I really watched Brock party last week, and we saw

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Speaker 1: this a little bit earlier this year that when you

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Speaker 1: do put pressure on Brock Purdy, he's not quite as

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Speaker 1: steady as a lot of people make him out to be.

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Speaker 1: That he has a very cool demeanor and everything else,

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Speaker 1: he can be frazzled. I mean, if I'm the Lions,

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Speaker 1: I'm bringing everybody early. I am. I got to get

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Speaker 1: a body shots on Purty early because he's like most quarterbacks,

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Speaker 1: they get into a rhythm, they get comfortable and by

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Speaker 1: the way, Jared Goff is the exact same way. Yes,

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Speaker 1: but somehow, some way, the Lions have got to get

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Speaker 1: hits early on brock Purdy.

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Speaker 3: They got to get hits early on Party.

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Speaker 4: But they also have to do what Green Bay did,

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Speaker 4: and I don't know if they can because they heard

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Speaker 4: up front. But their strength Detroit is running the ball,

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Speaker 4: so playing a little keep away from Santa fran as well,

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Speaker 4: and if they were healthy up front, I would make

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Speaker 4: this game a little closer, because that's what they do

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Speaker 4: really well.

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Speaker 1: I just find it interesting you have an NFC game

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Speaker 1: championship game between a guy that was the first pick

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Speaker 1: in his draft versus a guy that was the last

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Speaker 1: pick in his draft, and the guy who was last

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Speaker 1: is the favorite of the game. Much more coming up,

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Speaker 1: This is Fox Football Saturday. Rolling along here on this Saturday,

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Speaker 1: getting ready for of course, two big games tomorrow which

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Speaker 1: teams will end up in the Super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: This is Fox Football Saturday.

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Speaker 1: in this hour, but we're also catching up on all

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Speaker 1: the things that have been happening off the field this

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Speaker 1: past week. In the NFL, six of the eight coaching

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Speaker 1: vacancies have been filled. We're still waiting on the Commanders

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Speaker 1: and the Seahawks. It appeared that the Commanders are waiting

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Speaker 1: on Ben Johnson, the offensive coordinator for the Lions. I'm

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Speaker 1: not quite sure where the Seahawks are going. I thought

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Speaker 1: Dan Quinn, with his ties to that organization, seemed.

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Speaker 3: To be a shoe in a shoe in.

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Speaker 2: But they haven't hired him yet.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, that one's interesting to me as well. I thought

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Speaker 4: that was the one. It made sense, got the ties

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Speaker 4: Pete Carroll can steal be around, you know what I mean.

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Speaker 4: All those things seemed like that was the ideal place.

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Speaker 4: But who else could they be waiting for.

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Speaker 2: I'm not quite sure it's not Bill Belichick.

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Speaker 1: Listen to it that way. One of the things about

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Speaker 1: the six positions that have been filled, four of them

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Speaker 1: have gone to minority coaches. Yes, and by the way,

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Speaker 1: that means that going into the new season, it will

869
00:42:28,080 --> 00:42:30,239
Speaker 1: be a new record nine head coaches.

870
00:42:30,719 --> 00:42:31,000
Speaker 3: Wow.

871
00:42:31,920 --> 00:42:35,840
Speaker 1: Now is this what is this just a natural evolution

872
00:42:36,040 --> 00:42:38,960
Speaker 1: of the game? Carry in your opinion? I mean, it

873
00:42:38,960 --> 00:42:40,959
Speaker 1: has been made of the Rooney rule and everything else,

874
00:42:41,000 --> 00:42:43,480
Speaker 1: and I think there have been pluses and minus with

875
00:42:43,600 --> 00:42:47,160
Speaker 1: the Rooney rule over the years, but they seem to

876
00:42:47,200 --> 00:42:51,200
Speaker 1: be making progress. I think it's more evolutionary obviously. In

877
00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: the NBA. Yeah, I mean it's we don't even talk

878
00:42:55,320 --> 00:42:58,600
Speaker 1: race anymore in terms of coaches and who's hired and

879
00:42:58,680 --> 00:42:59,799
Speaker 1: fired and everything else.

880
00:43:00,080 --> 00:43:01,640
Speaker 2: We've long passed that in the NBA.

881
00:43:01,760 --> 00:43:04,680
Speaker 1: But do you think we're finally getting to that stage

882
00:43:04,760 --> 00:43:07,560
Speaker 1: or the NFL where race really isn't going to be

883
00:43:07,680 --> 00:43:11,440
Speaker 1: the main factor in terms of conversation of why a

884
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:12,200
Speaker 1: certain guy.

885
00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:15,080
Speaker 2: Is being denied a job or another guy gets a job.

886
00:43:15,440 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 3: Yeah, it's hard to say. I do know. I hated

887
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:19,239
Speaker 3: the Rooney rule.

888
00:43:20,000 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 4: I mean a lot of those times you know that

889
00:43:22,040 --> 00:43:24,240
Speaker 4: just because they were getting interviewed, it was just because

890
00:43:24,280 --> 00:43:26,400
Speaker 4: of the Ruoney rule, like they had no chance of

891
00:43:26,400 --> 00:43:29,560
Speaker 4: getting the job, So you know that part of it.

892
00:43:29,800 --> 00:43:32,160
Speaker 4: I just I dismissed that anyway. I didn't like it

893
00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 4: from the beginning, but I think now, I mean these coaches,

894
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:38,280
Speaker 4: the coaches that are getting hired that are quote unquote

895
00:43:38,360 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 4: minority coaches, they put in time. So I mean there's

896
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,239
Speaker 4: a clip of Thumlinson talking about Ray Moore as being

897
00:43:46,800 --> 00:43:48,360
Speaker 4: the best coach he's ever been around.

898
00:43:48,400 --> 00:43:48,760
Speaker 3: Period.

899
00:43:49,000 --> 00:43:52,560
Speaker 1: You know, it's funny you mentioned those obligatory phone calls.

900
00:43:52,680 --> 00:43:55,359
Speaker 1: I thought Rahee Morris was that guy this year because

901
00:43:55,400 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 1: he's been a head coach before, you know, and he's

902
00:43:58,520 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: not been successful as a head coach. So I thought

903
00:44:00,640 --> 00:44:03,440
Speaker 1: everyone's callie Raheem Morris just to say all right, we

904
00:44:03,560 --> 00:44:05,080
Speaker 1: checked that, we checked that one off.

905
00:44:05,120 --> 00:44:06,480
Speaker 2: And then he gets the Atlanta job.

906
00:44:06,640 --> 00:44:09,439
Speaker 4: That one shocked me. That was such a dark corse

907
00:44:09,480 --> 00:44:11,799
Speaker 4: one for me. But again, he was an interim there

908
00:44:11,840 --> 00:44:14,680
Speaker 4: for a little while, so he has history there. They

909
00:44:14,719 --> 00:44:16,040
Speaker 4: know what he can do, what he did in his

910
00:44:16,120 --> 00:44:18,840
Speaker 4: short term, the interim time that he was there, So

911
00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,399
Speaker 4: I mean the connection was already there. So when you

912
00:44:21,520 --> 00:44:23,840
Speaker 4: peel back the layers of what you said, like he

913
00:44:23,880 --> 00:44:27,600
Speaker 4: didn't have success in that stint, he did something well

914
00:44:27,640 --> 00:44:29,760
Speaker 4: and he studied that ship when he came in there.

915
00:44:29,840 --> 00:44:33,920
Speaker 4: So the relationship that he had in that organization probably

916
00:44:34,000 --> 00:44:36,279
Speaker 4: was the motivating factor because obviously you can't go off

917
00:44:36,280 --> 00:44:39,120
Speaker 4: his history of winning because he hasn't done yet yet yet.

918
00:44:39,160 --> 00:44:43,200
Speaker 4: So again, I think we're in the position where relationships matter.

919
00:44:43,480 --> 00:44:45,399
Speaker 4: And we talked about like the SI and these people

920
00:44:45,440 --> 00:44:48,479
Speaker 4: getting opportunities again when they don't make sense.

921
00:44:49,120 --> 00:44:51,880
Speaker 3: This one didn't make sense, but the relationship matters.

922
00:44:51,920 --> 00:44:54,120
Speaker 1: So it's amazing if you look over the history of

923
00:44:54,120 --> 00:44:56,640
Speaker 1: the National Football League and coaches that have gone on

924
00:44:56,719 --> 00:44:59,880
Speaker 1: to greatness, you know, a punch a ticket into Canada, Ohio,

925
00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:04,680
Speaker 1: how many of them upon their hiring were not perceived

926
00:45:04,680 --> 00:45:07,560
Speaker 1: to be guys that would have success. I mean Bill

927
00:45:07,600 --> 00:45:10,360
Speaker 1: Belichick's a prime example. He had five years in Cleveland,

928
00:45:10,360 --> 00:45:13,080
Speaker 1: they had one playoff yere in five years because last

929
00:45:13,120 --> 00:45:15,960
Speaker 1: year they had a losing season, he got canned, Then

930
00:45:16,000 --> 00:45:18,080
Speaker 1: he got hired by the Jets for one day, one day,

931
00:45:18,280 --> 00:45:19,800
Speaker 1: and then he ends up with New England and the

932
00:45:19,840 --> 00:45:21,560
Speaker 1: rest was history. I mean, I could go down a

933
00:45:21,600 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: lot of these guys over the years that you know,

934
00:45:25,080 --> 00:45:28,520
Speaker 1: really sort of just you know, right place, right time.

935
00:45:28,600 --> 00:45:30,640
Speaker 2: I think it's a broken record.

936
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:32,960
Speaker 1: But it's so true. I don't know why, more so

937
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:37,319
Speaker 1: in the NFL than just about anywhere else. Whether it's

938
00:45:37,360 --> 00:45:39,960
Speaker 1: the success of a coach or a success of a

939
00:45:40,000 --> 00:45:42,520
Speaker 1: player being in the right system at the right time.

940
00:45:42,880 --> 00:45:45,400
Speaker 1: Now that we've had a little time to reflect on

941
00:45:45,520 --> 00:45:48,120
Speaker 1: the season the Houston Texans had with Damiko Ryans and

942
00:45:48,200 --> 00:45:51,840
Speaker 1: CJ Strout, why do you think it worked?

943
00:45:52,120 --> 00:45:54,800
Speaker 3: Wow, that's an interesting question.

944
00:45:57,200 --> 00:46:01,520
Speaker 4: I talked about last segment, having that guy, having that

945
00:46:02,360 --> 00:46:07,120
Speaker 4: alpha coach that can connect with his players. Demiko having

946
00:46:07,680 --> 00:46:12,040
Speaker 4: played the game at at a high level, lay at

947
00:46:12,040 --> 00:46:14,160
Speaker 4: the game at a high level on each each place

948
00:46:14,160 --> 00:46:14,560
Speaker 4: he's been.

949
00:46:15,680 --> 00:46:18,680
Speaker 3: I know they have the stabilizing force there in him.

950
00:46:18,960 --> 00:46:19,560
Speaker 3: I know that.

951
00:46:19,760 --> 00:46:22,240
Speaker 4: So that's number one. He can connect with the players

952
00:46:22,280 --> 00:46:24,279
Speaker 4: and get them to raise their game. And you talk

953
00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:25,440
Speaker 4: about harball.

954
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 3: And then you it's a little bit of luck involved,

955
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:30,400
Speaker 3: right c J.

956
00:46:30,560 --> 00:46:34,680
Speaker 4: Stroud come into the year after all the nonsense and

957
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,440
Speaker 4: all the talk that was about him not having a

958
00:46:37,520 --> 00:46:41,000
Speaker 4: high enough IQ or not being able to process defenses

959
00:46:41,040 --> 00:46:43,440
Speaker 4: and all these things that he can obviously do really well.

960
00:46:44,760 --> 00:46:46,920
Speaker 4: Him getting to the right situation, a place where his

961
00:46:47,000 --> 00:46:49,719
Speaker 4: coach believes in him and gives him the answers to

962
00:46:49,760 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 4: the test.

963
00:46:50,960 --> 00:46:51,799
Speaker 3: You see what he can do.

964
00:46:51,840 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 4: And I think it's that it's perfect timing but it's

965
00:46:54,920 --> 00:46:57,520
Speaker 4: also a little bit of luck involved where if he

966
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 4: goes to Caroline, if we're probably not having this conversation,

967
00:46:59,600 --> 00:47:02,399
Speaker 4: if he goes on he ends up falling a little

968
00:47:02,400 --> 00:47:05,319
Speaker 4: bit where people, you know, pushed him down because of

969
00:47:05,320 --> 00:47:07,719
Speaker 4: something that they heard, and he ends up in the

970
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:08,320
Speaker 4: right position.

971
00:47:08,400 --> 00:47:09,799
Speaker 3: So it's what you said. I think it's a lot

972
00:47:09,840 --> 00:47:11,080
Speaker 3: of timing when it comes to that.

973
00:47:11,880 --> 00:47:15,920
Speaker 1: Handling a young quarterback and getting their mindset is always

974
00:47:15,920 --> 00:47:19,359
Speaker 1: a challenge. Dave Canal stakes over now as the head

975
00:47:19,360 --> 00:47:22,480
Speaker 1: coach of the Carolina Panthers. He's a young coach and

976
00:47:22,520 --> 00:47:24,720
Speaker 1: he's getting his first opportunity to be a head coach,

977
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:27,520
Speaker 1: and his main job is to figure out how to

978
00:47:27,520 --> 00:47:31,440
Speaker 1: get Bryce young right now. But we've seen examples of that.

979
00:47:31,760 --> 00:47:34,800
Speaker 1: I remember again an interview I did with Sean McVeigh

980
00:47:35,040 --> 00:47:37,400
Speaker 1: when he got hired by the Rams, so this was

981
00:47:37,480 --> 00:47:40,240
Speaker 1: before his first season. You know, I was thinking about

982
00:47:41,000 --> 00:47:43,400
Speaker 1: he was born when I worked for the Raiders, Like

983
00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,719
Speaker 1: I'm going through all this as I'm talking this guy.

984
00:47:45,960 --> 00:47:48,440
Speaker 1: But Jared Goff was oh and seven his rookie season.

985
00:47:48,520 --> 00:47:50,520
Speaker 1: Not only not only was he owen seven as a

986
00:47:50,520 --> 00:47:53,560
Speaker 1: starting quarterback, he literally didn't even look like he belonged

987
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,600
Speaker 1: to the league, like everything was way too big for

988
00:47:56,680 --> 00:47:59,879
Speaker 1: this guy. And I asked, this young coach, I mean,

989
00:48:00,000 --> 00:48:03,000
Speaker 1: and it starts with the quarterback. I mean, you got

990
00:48:03,000 --> 00:48:04,840
Speaker 1: to get this thing right. I mean, what are you

991
00:48:04,840 --> 00:48:09,719
Speaker 1: going to do? And he would all the conviction in

992
00:48:09,760 --> 00:48:11,400
Speaker 1: the world. He just looked at me and he said,

993
00:48:11,480 --> 00:48:16,320
Speaker 1: we need to erase last year and lo and behold

994
00:48:16,320 --> 00:48:18,319
Speaker 1: they make the playoffs his very first year. I mean,

995
00:48:18,600 --> 00:48:21,320
Speaker 1: I don't know if I've ever seen in a single

996
00:48:21,400 --> 00:48:24,040
Speaker 1: season a greater turnaround than I saw a golf from

997
00:48:24,040 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: that rookie year to his second year. We saw a

998
00:48:26,280 --> 00:48:29,640
Speaker 1: similar situation with Doug Peterson and Trevor Lawrence. After that

999
00:48:29,840 --> 00:48:34,799
Speaker 1: catastrophe with urban Meyer, immediately Peterson comes in and guess what,

1000
00:48:34,840 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: Trevor Lawrence is on its way to the playoffs. So,

1001
00:48:38,000 --> 00:48:40,200
Speaker 1: if you're Canals and you're taking over now for the

1002
00:48:40,239 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: Panthers and you have Bryce Young, and we know Bryce

1003
00:48:42,880 --> 00:48:45,880
Speaker 1: Young has talent, even though he looks really tiny on

1004
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:50,760
Speaker 1: an NFL field, he is the smallest quarterback in this league.

1005
00:48:52,239 --> 00:48:55,799
Speaker 1: How does a rookie coach come in, as McVeigh did

1006
00:48:55,840 --> 00:48:58,680
Speaker 1: with Jared Goff and try to get things right?

1007
00:48:58,719 --> 00:49:02,919
Speaker 4: With his quarterback McVeigh is. I mean, he's he's an out.

1008
00:49:03,280 --> 00:49:06,800
Speaker 4: He may be an outliar to be honest. I mean again,

1009
00:49:06,840 --> 00:49:09,040
Speaker 4: we talked earlier in the year. You thought, I remember

1010
00:49:09,040 --> 00:49:11,040
Speaker 4: early on you thought this would be.

1011
00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:13,160
Speaker 7: The in the league. I have a debt.

1012
00:49:13,239 --> 00:49:15,759
Speaker 1: It's I picked the Rams to be the worst team

1013
00:49:15,760 --> 00:49:16,240
Speaker 1: in the league.

1014
00:49:16,320 --> 00:49:18,160
Speaker 3: I remember it. And I think.

1015
00:49:18,040 --> 00:49:20,800
Speaker 2: Sean McVay is an unbelievable coach.

1016
00:49:20,880 --> 00:49:24,200
Speaker 3: That part right, like he's proven it. It's it's it's

1017
00:49:24,280 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 3: tried and true. Yea, we know it.

1018
00:49:26,760 --> 00:49:30,440
Speaker 4: This year what he did was just crazy crazy, And

1019
00:49:30,520 --> 00:49:32,840
Speaker 4: so I think that's where it starts. You got to

1020
00:49:32,880 --> 00:49:37,640
Speaker 4: have undeniable belief in yourself as a guy, as a leader,

1021
00:49:38,400 --> 00:49:41,320
Speaker 4: to know that you're going into a situation where somebody

1022
00:49:41,320 --> 00:49:42,280
Speaker 4: has already failed.

1023
00:49:43,040 --> 00:49:45,640
Speaker 3: You know, because when you have success.

1024
00:49:45,239 --> 00:49:49,799
Speaker 4: It's easy, everything's fine, it's there's smiles, there's a joy

1025
00:49:49,840 --> 00:49:53,040
Speaker 4: about you going to work right. But when you failed,

1026
00:49:54,360 --> 00:49:56,600
Speaker 4: that's when you see the true test of a man.

1027
00:49:57,239 --> 00:49:59,160
Speaker 4: And so you have a guy. If you hire a

1028
00:49:59,160 --> 00:50:03,000
Speaker 4: guy that comes in who hasn't had I guess a

1029
00:50:03,040 --> 00:50:05,600
Speaker 4: long list, a long list of credentials that's coming to

1030
00:50:05,680 --> 00:50:08,319
Speaker 4: the job. You hired that guy because you believe in

1031
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 4: him as a man and being able to lead guys

1032
00:50:11,120 --> 00:50:13,359
Speaker 4: to where they need to go. So I would say

1033
00:50:13,440 --> 00:50:16,160
Speaker 4: that's why they hired him. And if you have that guy,

1034
00:50:16,560 --> 00:50:18,080
Speaker 4: he can pick that guy off the mat and get

1035
00:50:18,160 --> 00:50:20,319
Speaker 4: him to the place he needs to go, because that's

1036
00:50:20,360 --> 00:50:21,040
Speaker 4: where it starts.

1037
00:50:21,280 --> 00:50:24,040
Speaker 1: I remember, and this is dating me, as I do

1038
00:50:24,360 --> 00:50:28,840
Speaker 1: all too often. In nineteen eighty one, the then Washingon

1039
00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:33,120
Speaker 1: Redskins fired Jack Party, their coach, who was a known

1040
00:50:33,840 --> 00:50:39,759
Speaker 1: NFL guy, and they hired this anonymous offensive coordinator for

1041
00:50:39,880 --> 00:50:44,360
Speaker 1: the Chargers named Joe Gibbs. Gibbs and of course everyone

1042
00:50:44,360 --> 00:50:47,560
Speaker 1: looked at him, like coriol runs that offense. I don't

1043
00:50:47,560 --> 00:50:51,120
Speaker 1: know what this Gibbs guy does. And they started zero

1044
00:50:51,120 --> 00:50:54,440
Speaker 1: to five that first year with Gibbs. They ended up

1045
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:56,200
Speaker 1: eight and eight that year, and the next year they

1046
00:50:56,200 --> 00:50:59,520
Speaker 1: won the Super Bowl. And so a lot of times

1047
00:50:59,520 --> 00:51:03,600
Speaker 1: you just don't know. So we're gonna have eight coaches

1048
00:51:03,760 --> 00:51:06,640
Speaker 1: new coaches in the league this year. A couple of

1049
00:51:06,680 --> 00:51:09,479
Speaker 1: them are gonna make it. Yes, the question is which

1050
00:51:09,480 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 1: ones will they be? All right? Coming up on the

1051
00:51:11,480 --> 00:51:16,560
Speaker 1: other side, speaking of a place in history, Patrick Mahomes,

1052
00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:21,040
Speaker 1: coming off his first road playoff. Winever in his Chiefs

1053
00:51:21,120 --> 00:51:25,320
Speaker 1: run gets to the AFC Championship game for the sixth

1054
00:51:25,560 --> 00:51:30,840
Speaker 1: consecutive year, becoming the first quarterback in league history to

1055
00:51:31,000 --> 00:51:37,680
Speaker 1: start six consecutive conference championship games. Where does he now

1056
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,959
Speaker 1: stand with the best of all? Tom, We're gonna break

1057
00:51:40,960 --> 00:51:49,920
Speaker 1: it down. This is Fox Football Saturday, Steve Hartman and

1058
00:51:50,000 --> 00:51:53,880
Speaker 1: Kerry Rose, Fox Football Saturday. So why are we playing

1059
00:51:53,960 --> 00:51:57,960
Speaker 1: Kim Carnes Betty Davis Eyes, Lorena? Why are we playing

1060
00:51:57,960 --> 00:51:58,799
Speaker 1: this song right now?

1061
00:51:59,080 --> 00:52:01,960
Speaker 2: Well, because you talked to about the year nineteen eighty ones.

1062
00:52:01,840 --> 00:52:05,280
Speaker 1: Yes, the year that the then Redskins hired Joe Gibbs

1063
00:52:05,280 --> 00:52:06,040
Speaker 1: to be their head coach.

1064
00:52:06,120 --> 00:52:09,000
Speaker 10: Yes, So I looked up. I asked Siri what was

1065
00:52:09,040 --> 00:52:12,160
Speaker 10: the number one song that year? And it was Betty

1066
00:52:12,239 --> 00:52:14,239
Speaker 10: Davis Eyes by Kim Carnes.

1067
00:52:14,440 --> 00:52:16,480
Speaker 1: And then you came in the studio before this to

1068
00:52:16,560 --> 00:52:18,520
Speaker 1: ask me if I could possibly have known what the

1069
00:52:18,600 --> 00:52:20,440
Speaker 1: number one song was in nineteen eighty one?

1070
00:52:20,719 --> 00:52:23,360
Speaker 2: How would you know? You didn't even google it.

1071
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,040
Speaker 1: My head is like Google. Well before Google was the

1072
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:33,319
Speaker 1: Hartman Trivia Brain. It was called Stugle. I just have

1073
00:52:33,440 --> 00:52:35,640
Speaker 1: this rollodex in my head. So I had to figure

1074
00:52:35,640 --> 00:52:37,239
Speaker 1: it out. That's why I was staring at you while

1075
00:52:37,239 --> 00:52:38,479
Speaker 1: I'm Rollodex in the seas.

1076
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:39,000
Speaker 7: So funny.

1077
00:52:39,040 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 10: I thought you need at least until you had to

1078
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:42,799
Speaker 10: come back from the break. You didn't even guess any

1079
00:52:42,840 --> 00:52:44,640
Speaker 10: other songs. You went straight for this one.

1080
00:52:44,760 --> 00:52:45,440
Speaker 3: I did, I did.

1081
00:52:45,760 --> 00:52:47,400
Speaker 10: Was this a soundtrack song like Carrie?

1082
00:52:47,440 --> 00:52:48,120
Speaker 3: It wasn't.

1083
00:52:48,200 --> 00:52:51,480
Speaker 1: No, okay, no, no, no, it was it was. This

1084
00:52:51,600 --> 00:52:54,640
Speaker 1: song was a huge hit, I mean huge hit for

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Speaker 1: off the air. In sports, we have halls of fame,

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Speaker 1: and I know Dion Sanders made a great point.

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Speaker 2: I think about different levels of hall of fame.

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Speaker 1: I don't mind guys getting into halls of fame. I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, it was interesting in the Baseball Hall of

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Speaker 1: Fame just announce their new three person class, you know,

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Speaker 1: and Adrian Beltray was a first ballot Hall of Famer,

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Speaker 1: as was Joe Mauer. And no one's gonna mistaken them

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Speaker 1: for Hank Aaron or Babe Ruth. You know, I mean,

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Speaker 1: you know, you have certain levels in turn of star players.

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Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes, in my opinion, has already attained the highest

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Speaker 1: level of Hall of Fame in a very short amount

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Speaker 1: of time. I saw a stat where he will be

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Speaker 1: soon the third winningest quarterback in turns of postseason wins

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Speaker 1: and just one or two behind Joe Montana, and of

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Speaker 1: course Tom Brady's light years. I had everyone else and

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Speaker 1: someone even making the point about him being the second

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Speaker 1: greatest of all time. If he does that, I hate

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Speaker 1: to remind him Joe Montana did win four Super Bowls,

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Speaker 1: and by the way, in those four Super Bowls, which

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Speaker 1: he never lost a Super Bowl, he never even threw

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Speaker 1: an interception in those four Super Bowls. So Brady's won

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Speaker 1: Montana's two, and then we can start to get into

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Speaker 1: the conversation. And by the way, I believe, now let's

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Speaker 1: see talk about lack of interceptions. I think that Mahomes

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Speaker 1: has thrown one and he has some kind of streak

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Speaker 1: going and lack of interceptions and postseason. But I want

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Speaker 1: to get your thoughts here as you have watched his

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Speaker 1: career unfold with the Kansas City Chiefs as they get

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Speaker 1: ready for a game. I mean, let's put it this way.

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Speaker 1: If they win tomorrow in Baltimore, Yeah, I mean that

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Speaker 1: just oh yeah, he's already to me at the highest level.

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Speaker 1: Then all of a sudden, now we're getting into the stratosphere.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, this would be as big as achievement if they

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Speaker 4: if he wins with this team on the road in Baltimore,

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Speaker 4: the way that Baltimore is rolling and his team being,

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Speaker 4: like I said, probably his worst, the worst version of

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Speaker 4: the Chief that we've seen so far.

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Speaker 3: That's uh, that'll be That would be a feat.

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Speaker 1: Well, by his standards, it was a mediocre year to

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Speaker 1: say the least. Yes, he got a Pro Bowler bid

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Speaker 1: based on name alone. I think there are probably other

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Speaker 1: AFC quarterbacks. Would you know to him made it? You know,

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Speaker 1: but I mean it's hard to argue against him. But

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Speaker 1: when you watch him play, and you've played against and

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Speaker 1: you've seen the greatest quarterbacks the last twenty years. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: are we coming up on twenty years since your rookie year.

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Speaker 3: Oh you just brought it up.

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Speaker 4: Oh my god, all right, that is correct, I say,

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Speaker 4: Steve heard me talk about this earlier.

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Speaker 3: It's a sore spot.

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Speaker 1: You've got the heighths, you're in your prime. But I mean,

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Speaker 1: you've seen so many great quarterbacks, have played against so

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Speaker 1: many great quarterbacks. What, in your opinion sets him apart?

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Speaker 1: What is it about Patrick Mahomes that sets him apart? Well,

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Speaker 1: the thing that sets any great quarterback apart is winning.

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Speaker 1: He wins at an all time level, a level that

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Speaker 1: we haven't seen from anybody but the two guys that

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Speaker 1: you've named, So it's hard to say he's not better

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Speaker 1: than Peyton Manning yet or you know, these guys that

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Speaker 1: I saw that when I played were the cream of

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Speaker 1: the crop, right you have. I mean I was playing

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Speaker 1: when Brady was still in his prime the first time,

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Speaker 1: so I've seen that as well. Well. I mean the

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Speaker 1: years is a perspective being a secondary guy. Yeah, playing

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Speaker 1: against Tom Brady and you saw him several times?

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Speaker 2: What was it about Brady?

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Speaker 1: I mean, I mean you played against some of the

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Speaker 1: great quarterbacks of that era. Why was Brady able to

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Speaker 1: leapfrog over everyone else?

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Speaker 4: Yeah, Brady was, just like it was one of those

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Speaker 4: things where I was never worried about Brady's talent, and

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Speaker 4: the talent is the talent. He's good, but we could

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Speaker 4: match that. But it was something inside of him, some

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Speaker 4: type of will, some type of destined thing for greatness.

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Speaker 4: It's just one of those intangible things that you don't

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Speaker 4: get because there are a lot of quarterbacks that are

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Speaker 4: have stronger arms in him, way more athletic than him, right,

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Speaker 4: stronger armed than him. So all these things are true,

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Speaker 4: but when it gets into meaningful games and having to

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Speaker 4: will your team to win, he's the goat of that.

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Speaker 4: And you look at Patrick Mahomes and you see that

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Speaker 4: same type of that wheel. And we saw that will

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Speaker 4: last week against Buffalo where he's going toe to toe

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Speaker 4: with Josh Allen and they're both going back and forth.

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Speaker 4: But I thought they were going to win the game

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Speaker 4: because of Patrick Mahomes. And I think that's the biggest compliment.

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Speaker 4: You think, if the game's close, or if that guy

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Speaker 4: has the ball last, doesn't matter where the game is

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Speaker 4: or where the situation is, He's going to win it.

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Speaker 4: And so That's what I would say about him. Obviously,

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Speaker 4: you can watch him entail that he's talented, athletic, strong arm,

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Speaker 4: all the intangibles. But that thing, when you believe in

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Speaker 4: the guy, it doesn't matter who he's going against. That's

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Speaker 4: the highest compliment I have.

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Speaker 3: And it's your teammates believing in you. Oh yeah, it

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Speaker 3: raises everything.

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Speaker 2: I remember. Before Montana won his.

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Speaker 1: Third Super Bowl, which was the comfort behind win against

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Speaker 1: the Bengals the pass of John Taylor, they had lost

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Speaker 1: three straight years in the first round of the playoffs, yep,

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Speaker 1: and there was thoughts that their time had come agone,

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Speaker 1: even though they had added this young receiver named Jerry Rice.

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Speaker 1: Do not remember Rice was not part of the first

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Speaker 1: two Super Bowl teams. He was at Mississippi Valley State

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Speaker 1: at that time. And then, of course, after they broke

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Speaker 1: through and then Bill Walsh resigned. The next year, they

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Speaker 1: blow out the Broncos to win a fourth Super Bowl.

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Speaker 1: But when you think about Mahomes, you had the blowout

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Speaker 1: loss in the Super Bowl to Tampa and then that

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Speaker 1: inexplicable fourth you know, second half meltdown against the Bengals

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Speaker 1: in the NFC Championship game at home and you're beginning

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Speaker 1: to wonder, all right, was he really a one super

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Speaker 1: Bowl wonder? And then Tyreek Hill leaves and I'm thinking

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Speaker 1: it's over. It's over, and what happens they win another

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Speaker 1: Super Bowl? But this would be the most impressed.

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Speaker 3: This would be the most impressed.

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Speaker 2: I mean, to win in Buffalo at Baltimore and.

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Speaker 1: Then, no disrespect to the Lions fans, most likely facing

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Speaker 1: the forty nine ers, the team by the way he beat, obviously,

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Speaker 1: to win his first Super Bowl when it come from

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Speaker 1: behind win, that would be an achievement. With a third

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Speaker 1: suit Super Bowl win, that again just gets him. Like

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Speaker 1: I said, I I would only have Brady and Montana

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Speaker 1: in the conversation.

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Speaker 4: Hypothetically Steve his championship windows closed, stats as they are

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Speaker 4: right now. Obviously he's going to play for a long

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Speaker 4: time after this, you know, God willing, what what.

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Speaker 3: Where would he be?

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Speaker 4: He would already be three on your on your mantle

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Speaker 4: right now.

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Speaker 1: Well, it's hard for me to really figure out the

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Speaker 1: Peyton mannything because his second win you have very little

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Speaker 1: to do with. I mean, he.

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Speaker 2: Couldn't even throw the football at that point. He was

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Speaker 2: on the field.

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Speaker 1: He started the game, but Anyone that saw that game

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Speaker 1: will tell you that he really didn't have a major

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Speaker 1: impact on that game against Carolina. But yeah, I mean,

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Speaker 1: I I you know, I.

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Speaker 3: It's it's hard. It's a hard one. It is.

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Speaker 1: I mean, he'll still be elite, but his canile that

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Speaker 1: they never win another super Bowl.

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Speaker 2: Of course it is, yes, But like.

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Speaker 1: I said, it looked like that way with Joe Montana.

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Speaker 1: He won a couple of super Bowls and then all

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Speaker 1: of a sudden first round loss, first round loss, first

1241
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Speaker 1: round loss. Uh. The third year was an ugly one

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Speaker 1: where they had the best rock in the league. They

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Speaker 1: lose to the Vikings. Yeah, and a lot of people

1244
01:01:17,640 --> 01:01:20,240
Speaker 1: were beginning to circle away. That's why Bill Walsh, I

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Speaker 1: think the next year when they won the Super Bowl,

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01:01:22,800 --> 01:01:26,240
Speaker 1: retired because he just was so burned out trying to

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01:01:26,280 --> 01:01:30,080
Speaker 1: get back to the top of the mountain. It would

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Speaker 1: be insane for anyone to bet against Mahomes at this point.

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Speaker 4: You think they can always reinvent a team around that guy.

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Speaker 4: That's what you're That's that's basically what you're saying. Because

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Speaker 4: Brady had years like that too where he didn't They

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Speaker 4: went for a while with I went in New England.

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Speaker 4: Then ten years exactly, and then they came back. So yeah,

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01:01:46,360 --> 01:01:47,760
Speaker 4: they did come back, you know what I mean. So

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Speaker 4: you think that's right.

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Speaker 2: People forget this about Brady.

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Speaker 1: They won in the seasons of one to three, four,

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Speaker 1: and then they won in fourteen, sixteen, and eighteen, and

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Speaker 1: that's the so ten years.

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Speaker 4: And that's the part about the Brady stuff for me,

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Speaker 4: where even having the goat debate, when you say he's

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Speaker 4: won and Joe's two, I believe it. I believe it

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Speaker 4: now because of that last.

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Speaker 2: Brady is seven and three in Montana's.

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Speaker 4: Four ye and so I have to dispute with that,

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Speaker 4: where in my mind I'm okay with somebody saying that

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Speaker 4: Joe Montowana is still still still the goat. So you know,

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Speaker 4: it is what it is. But it's like the Jordan

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01:02:25,760 --> 01:02:32,040
Speaker 4: Lebron thing exactly, you know. I mean, it's an endless conversation.

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Speaker 1: But I mean, just from my standpoint, in my perspective,

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is in that conversation. Sure, and obviously if somehow

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Speaker 1: miraculously he can lead them to a victory tomorrow and

1273
01:02:43,240 --> 01:02:48,320
Speaker 1: then another win in the Super Bowl, we're talking now,

1274
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Speaker 1: We're really talking. I let's find out what is trending

1275
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Speaker 1: right now?

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Speaker 2: Martin?

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Speaker 1: Where do you stand on Mahomes and his position on

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Speaker 1: the all time quarterback list in your lifetime?

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Speaker 9: Oh, in my lifetime, he's number two, number two to Brady. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: but I mean I'm only thirty four, so you don't remember, right, Yeah,

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Speaker 9: I don't remember.

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Speaker 1: But you do remember Peyton Manning, sure, you know, and

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Speaker 1: Mahomes is past Manning.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I mean I think so, you think so, so I

1285
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Speaker 3: don't think. Here's the thing.

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01:03:20,160 --> 01:03:23,760
Speaker 1: Manning had five MVP Awards, it's the most ever, and

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Speaker 1: Aaron Rodgers has four.

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Speaker 9: Right, But you know the Patrick Mahomess hosted Nancy Championship

1289
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Speaker 9: Game the last six years.

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Speaker 3: Well this year he's not, so it's five.

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Speaker 1: But he's the first quarterback. The only other quarterback that

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01:03:36,720 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: ever actually started five consecutive conference championship games obviously since

1293
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Speaker 1: the merger in nineteen seventy was Ken Stabler of the Raiders,

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Speaker 1: who lost four of those five games. But now Mahomes

1295
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Speaker 1: is the first quarterback since the merger to start six

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Speaker 1: consecutive conference.

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Speaker 9: When you look at his playoff career so far, only

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Speaker 9: really had one game that was kind of a stinker,

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Speaker 9: and that would be the Super Bowl against the Buccaneers.

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Speaker 1: You forgot that second half against the Bengals in the

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Speaker 1: AFC Championship game at home. Then that was ugly.

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Speaker 9: I mean, don't get me wrong, it wasn't pretty, but

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Speaker 9: he still had twenty seven points in the first half.

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Speaker 1: Like you would like to have that hot start, and

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Speaker 1: then completely unraveled in the all fell.

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Speaker 9: Apart when Tyreek didn't get it to the ends on

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Speaker 9: Eli Apple making that tackle. I'll remember it like it

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Speaker 9: was yesterday. It was actually the day I met my

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Speaker 9: girlfriend's mom for the first time, and I had I

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Speaker 9: had so much money on the Bengals that I was like, look,

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Speaker 9: I apologize in advance for anything of how they like

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Speaker 9: if I.

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Speaker 1: Looked like it was twenty like nothing, just like that.

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Speaker 1: But in that Tampa Super Bowl he was running for

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Speaker 1: his life exactly.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, he had no shot.

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Speaker 9: And I know this is gonna sound like von Miller

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Speaker 9: talking about Drew Locke in the training camp, but he

1319
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Speaker 9: had some of the most impressive incompletions that you'll ever see. Yeah,

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Speaker 9: that one he hit DeMarcus Robinson, I believe right in

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Speaker 9: a face mask. He just didn't expect the ball to

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Speaker 9: be out that late. But what's trending in the world

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Speaker 9: is sports. Steve, you asked me, I'm here for you.

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Speaker 9: The Nuggets and the seventy sixers right now tied eighty

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Speaker 9: four a piece with one twenty left in the third quarter.

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Speaker 9: But the big question is this. I think you guys

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01:05:09,760 --> 01:05:12,240
Speaker 9: should probably hear that. But that is the Denver fans

1328
01:05:12,320 --> 01:05:15,600
Speaker 9: chanting where's mb at? And the answer is not in

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01:05:15,680 --> 01:05:18,440
Speaker 9: the lineup. This is his eleventh game missed so far

1330
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Speaker 9: this year. Defending MVP will only be able to miss

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Speaker 9: six more to defend his title with the new NBA

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Speaker 9: RULD of sixty five games played to qualify. Has not

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Speaker 9: played in Denver since twenty and nineteen.

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Speaker 1: Wow, that was a long time ago.

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Speaker 9: He's so he doesn't want to play against jo Kischen. Well,

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Speaker 9: he's played against Joe Kitsch in Philly. But it's you know,

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Speaker 9: maybe it's the benefit of the doubt. Maybe it's the

1338
01:05:40,280 --> 01:05:41,800
Speaker 9: fact that it's a mile high in the air.

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Speaker 1: I love the fact that Jokisch is basically taking this

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Speaker 1: game off by his standards.

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Speaker 9: I mean, it's not like, look you got if you

1342
01:05:49,080 --> 01:05:51,480
Speaker 9: got Cang versus Godzilla and Godzilla de size, not to

1343
01:05:51,520 --> 01:05:51,840
Speaker 9: show up.

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Speaker 3: What do you expect Kong to do? Where's he at now?

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01:05:54,120 --> 01:05:55,600
Speaker 3: Points wise? I know you had two at the half.

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Speaker 1: Where's he No, he had six of the half. Well,

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Speaker 1: he's got eighteen and eleven. I love oh, Steve sam

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Speaker 1: Jokis has showing up.

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Speaker 9: He's three assents away from a trouble, dub showing off,

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Speaker 9: showing up a little bit.

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Speaker 1: This go to the injury reports for tomorrow's game.

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Speaker 9: Darreus Tony out with the hip injury, Marlin Humphrey in

1353
01:06:10,840 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 9: he's fighting through a calf zach Ertz did not get

1354
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Speaker 9: elevated for the Lions practice squad, so that means sam

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Speaker 9: Laport is the only healthy tight end on the roster.

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01:06:18,560 --> 01:06:21,440
Speaker 9: Deebo Samuel full going practice on Friday, removed from the

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Speaker 9: injury report that we're worried about his shoulder, but looks

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Speaker 9: like he will be able to go. In college basketball,

1359
01:06:28,000 --> 01:06:30,720
Speaker 9: we had wins for North Carolina, Texas Tech, Illinois, Duke

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Speaker 9: and BYU. Seventh rank Kansas lost to Iowa State seventy

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01:06:34,360 --> 01:06:36,800
Speaker 9: nine to seventy five, and eighth ranked Auburn lost on

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Speaker 9: the roads to Mississippi State sixty four to fifty eight.

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Speaker 9: VIC Fangio, former Dolphins defensive coordinator moving up to Philadelphia.

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Speaker 1: He'll take on the Philly.

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Speaker 9: Role, which was just vacated by a former Eagles defensive coordinator,

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01:06:50,200 --> 01:06:53,400
Speaker 9: Seawan Decai, who's interviewing with the Bills and the Falcons today.

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01:06:53,640 --> 01:06:56,880
Speaker 9: Jesse Mentor, former Michigan defensive coordinator, joining the Chargers in

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01:06:56,960 --> 01:06:59,280
Speaker 9: Jim Harbough in the same role, and the new England

1369
01:06:59,320 --> 01:07:02,920
Speaker 9: Patriots promote from within DeMarcus Covington, former defensive line coach,

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01:07:03,160 --> 01:07:06,040
Speaker 9: he got a promotion to the defensive coordinator, and Buffalo

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Speaker 9: Bill's defensive line coach Eric Washington is the new DC

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Speaker 9: in Chicago, but Matt Eberflus will still call the plays.

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Speaker 1: Kerrie, Steve, you're up all.

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Speaker 2: Right, Martin, thank you very very much.

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Speaker 1: You have a great show coming up a little bit

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Speaker 1: later on once again, we're coming live from the tirerack

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Speaker 1: dot Com studios. All right, talk about Patrick Mahomes. Let's

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Speaker 1: talk about Lamar Jackson. So Lamar Jackson most likely will

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Speaker 1: end up with his second regular season MVP award, matching

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Speaker 1: that of Mahomes.

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Speaker 3: Yep.

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Speaker 1: I mean you could look at his situation coming up

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Speaker 1: here tomorrow, and you talk about pressure you're at home,

1384
01:07:44,040 --> 01:07:48,280
Speaker 1: your team is the better team, but you got Mahomes

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Speaker 1: on the other side. How difficult do you think it

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01:07:52,200 --> 01:07:57,480
Speaker 1: is for Lamar Jackson to avoid that head to head

1387
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Speaker 1: comparison with Patrick Mahomes trying to an up him, because

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Speaker 1: it's a team sport, it's the consummate team sport, but

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Speaker 1: all the attention is going to be on Lamar Jackson

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01:08:08,080 --> 01:08:12,480
Speaker 1: versus Patrick Mahomes. How difficult do you think it will

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Speaker 1: be in the biggest game of Lamar Jackson's career to

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01:08:17,040 --> 01:08:20,400
Speaker 1: sort of keep his head straight in terms of not

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01:08:20,479 --> 01:08:24,000
Speaker 1: trying to compete against Mahomes and just trying to do

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Speaker 1: what's best to get the Ravens the win.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it's a great question.

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Speaker 4: You human nature says there's a super Saiyan on the

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Speaker 4: other side, right, and Lamar believes he's a super Saiyan

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01:08:39,000 --> 01:08:42,320
Speaker 4: and he is. And so when you see those when

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Speaker 4: you see those two jerseys on the field, there's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a lot of attention focused on both of those guys.

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Speaker 4: I just think that he's such a humble kid, Lamar.

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01:08:53,400 --> 01:08:55,320
Speaker 4: He's going to acknowledge that and he's going to be

1403
01:08:55,479 --> 01:08:58,800
Speaker 4: very judicial with his praise and understanding of the moment,

1404
01:08:59,320 --> 01:09:03,360
Speaker 4: because he is, but he's playing for something so much bigger,

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01:09:03,680 --> 01:09:07,439
Speaker 4: and I know he understands that they've gotten there as

1406
01:09:07,439 --> 01:09:11,240
Speaker 4: a team, even though you know he's in front of

1407
01:09:11,280 --> 01:09:14,920
Speaker 4: that bus driving the bus. He understands how important the

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01:09:15,000 --> 01:09:17,080
Speaker 4: game plan and how important those other guys to him,

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01:09:17,200 --> 01:09:21,559
Speaker 4: to him and them winning matters. So I think he's

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Speaker 4: going to be levelheaded to be fine. And again, if

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Speaker 4: they come into the game and control the game the

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Speaker 4: way they're supposed to and don't fall behind at any point,

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Speaker 4: he'll be fine. I think where the trouble lies is

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Speaker 4: if there's a little pressure in Kansas City comes out

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01:09:37,760 --> 01:09:40,880
Speaker 4: and maybe takes a little leader early, then there may

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Speaker 4: be some pressing. But overall, I think he'll be fine.

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Speaker 1: All right. So you guys are obviously Littleville guys. Yes,

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01:09:45,960 --> 01:09:48,360
Speaker 1: so you've known him a long time. You've spoke to

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Speaker 1: him obviously this week. Yeah, But he's never had a

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Speaker 1: game like this. No, he didn't in college and he

1421
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Speaker 1: has an a the pros. Yes, And you always talk

1422
01:09:57,960 --> 01:10:00,439
Speaker 1: about painful losses, how tough it is to to lose

1423
01:10:00,479 --> 01:10:04,720
Speaker 1: the Super Bowl. The toughest loss is the conference championship game.

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Speaker 3: I've lost in it.

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Speaker 1: It's tough because if you get to the super Bowl,

1426
01:10:08,720 --> 01:10:10,200
Speaker 1: you've made it to the super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: Same way with the NCAA basketball tournament, the Elite eight,

1429
01:10:14,560 --> 01:10:18,160
Speaker 1: that's the worst because you've already invested a lot to

1430
01:10:18,240 --> 01:10:18,639
Speaker 1: get there.

1431
01:10:18,840 --> 01:10:19,040
Speaker 3: Yeah.

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Speaker 1: If you get to the final four, you get to

1433
01:10:21,000 --> 01:10:23,479
Speaker 1: be part of the festivities. You're part of the Final four.

1434
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Speaker 3: Yeah.

1435
01:10:26,320 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: Same thing with the conference championship games. You've already invested

1436
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Speaker 1: in these playoffs just to get there. Maybe one game

1437
01:10:32,760 --> 01:10:37,480
Speaker 1: or two games, but you're already invested into these playoffs. Yeah,

1438
01:10:37,760 --> 01:10:40,519
Speaker 1: getting to the super Bowl is what it's about. You

1439
01:10:40,680 --> 01:10:43,880
Speaker 1: get to the super Bowl. I can't think there's any

1440
01:10:43,920 --> 01:10:46,320
Speaker 1: more pressure than these conference championship games.

1441
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Speaker 3: It isn't. We did it. I've done it.

1442
01:10:51,040 --> 01:10:55,760
Speaker 4: We beat Cincinnati in the wild card, we beat the Chargers, yes, and.

1443
01:10:58,200 --> 01:11:00,120
Speaker 3: Make a field goal in the division.

1444
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Speaker 4: And then we lost to the eventual winner and Peyton

1445
01:11:03,520 --> 01:11:05,920
Speaker 4: Manner and the Colts that year. Right, So we talk about,

1446
01:11:06,360 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 4: you know, being able to see those guys up close

1447
01:11:09,000 --> 01:11:12,639
Speaker 4: and personal, but there's no there is no worse feeling.

1448
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:16,559
Speaker 4: You're you're right, like you've invested so much time at

1449
01:11:16,600 --> 01:11:18,600
Speaker 4: that point you really believe that you can get it

1450
01:11:18,640 --> 01:11:21,320
Speaker 4: done too. You've won two of these things already, in

1451
01:11:21,360 --> 01:11:24,600
Speaker 4: his case won and you really feel like, oh, we're there,

1452
01:11:24,720 --> 01:11:27,040
Speaker 4: there's no way we're losing. And then you get sent

1453
01:11:27,120 --> 01:11:29,080
Speaker 4: back and then us we're up at the half against

1454
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Speaker 4: the Colts who go off to win the championship. So

1455
01:11:32,000 --> 01:11:35,679
Speaker 4: you have that that sour taste. But yes, it's it's

1456
01:11:35,800 --> 01:11:37,640
Speaker 4: you know what it reminds me of. It reminds me.

1457
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Speaker 4: We talked about forty nine Ers. This situation reminds me

1458
01:11:40,640 --> 01:11:43,679
Speaker 4: of Steve Young. He had trouble getting over that hump

1459
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Speaker 4: in the playoffs.

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Speaker 1: Yep, they lost consecutive conference championship games of the Cowboys.

1461
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Speaker 4: Secut the Beers finally gets the monkey office back in

1462
01:11:50,200 --> 01:11:52,120
Speaker 4: ninety four and they make it and win and they

1463
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Speaker 4: beat the Charges again.

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Speaker 3: The common denominated here.

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Speaker 4: I was at that debacle. So it is hard. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: I just I don't think he has to be a

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Speaker 4: plus plus plus Lamar to win this game.

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Speaker 1: But he might think that because Mahomes is on the

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01:12:10,560 --> 01:12:13,800
Speaker 1: other side. I think that I don't play like a

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Speaker 1: perfect game. Mahomes has shown that he's I mean he Yeah,

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Speaker 1: he had his melt down in that second half against

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Speaker 1: the Bengals, and he ran for his life against the Bucks.

1473
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Speaker 1: But outside of that, this guy brings his A game

1474
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Speaker 1: to every playoff game. Yeah, and if you're Lamar Jackson,

1475
01:12:32,880 --> 01:12:35,240
Speaker 1: you're thinking, if I play a B game, we're gonna lose.

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Speaker 4: I don't think he thinks that, though, Steve and I

1477
01:12:37,960 --> 01:12:39,960
Speaker 4: think the human nature of it is yes. I mean,

1478
01:12:40,000 --> 01:12:44,639
Speaker 4: you're right, but hardball's been there, so you yeah, your

1479
01:12:44,720 --> 01:12:47,040
Speaker 4: leader's been there, so he's gonna have He's the guy

1480
01:12:47,080 --> 01:12:48,120
Speaker 4: that's steady in that ship.

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Speaker 3: And so I Joe.

1482
01:12:48,960 --> 01:12:50,920
Speaker 1: Flacco played the best game of his life in that

1483
01:12:51,000 --> 01:12:51,439
Speaker 1: Super Bowl.

1484
01:12:51,520 --> 01:12:53,599
Speaker 3: There you go. We talked about it.

1485
01:12:53,840 --> 01:12:56,640
Speaker 4: The leader of the men in those in those situations,

1486
01:12:57,439 --> 01:12:59,200
Speaker 4: they can control a lot of what happens.

1487
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Speaker 3: I feel good about Hardball.

1488
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Speaker 1: We'll see. I mean again, it's it's the spotlights on

1489
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Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson tomorrow. I mean, he's gonna have to play well.

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Speaker 1: Does he have to outplay Mahomes. I don't think he

1491
01:13:12,680 --> 01:13:16,320
Speaker 1: has to outplay him? Right, But remember this, the Ravens

1492
01:13:16,360 --> 01:13:21,920
Speaker 1: had the number one defense, Chiefs are number two. That

1493
01:13:21,960 --> 01:13:25,599
Speaker 1: Chiefs defenses really carry them for most of this year.

1494
01:13:26,479 --> 01:13:30,840
Speaker 1: But in the playoffs, it's about your quarterback. Oh, more

1495
01:13:30,880 --> 01:13:34,640
Speaker 1: often than not, how your quarterback plays is going to

1496
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Speaker 1: dictate how far you go in the playoffs. So it

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Speaker 1: is going to be a tremendous battle. That would be

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Speaker 1: the first game tomorrow Ravens and Chiefs, followed by the

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Speaker 1: Lions and the forty nine Ers. Speaking of the games,

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Speaker 1: of course, you know what's coming up on the other side.

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Speaker 1: We're gonna make our picks. We're going to actually give

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Speaker 1: you final scores. This is Fox Football Saturday, Steve Harman

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01:13:57,439 --> 01:14:01,479
Speaker 1: and Carrie Rhodes Fox Football Well Saturday, coming alive from

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Speaker 1: the Tairaq dot com studios.

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Speaker 2: Want to thank the guys today. Martin doing a great job.

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Speaker 1: Is always doing double duty here giving us our updates.

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Speaker 1: Patrick settled into his role as producer of this show.

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Speaker 1: Got a buzz with Patrick these days. And then Lorena

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01:14:22,400 --> 01:14:25,519
Speaker 1: and I apologize Lorena sort of blowing your mind. But

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01:14:25,680 --> 01:14:28,880
Speaker 1: once in a while I have to do that just

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01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:30,360
Speaker 1: to convince you. My mind still worse.

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01:14:30,400 --> 01:14:32,240
Speaker 3: I love You're keeping me on my toes, Steve.

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01:14:32,400 --> 01:14:34,200
Speaker 1: I know, I try to do it, but you guys

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01:14:34,600 --> 01:14:39,200
Speaker 1: do a phenomenal job and we appreciate it. All right,

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01:14:39,280 --> 01:14:41,879
Speaker 1: So here we go, Kerry, we got two games tomorrow.

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01:14:42,680 --> 01:14:46,960
Speaker 1: I'll be here with Rich tomorrow with Red Zone Radio.

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01:14:47,520 --> 01:14:50,280
Speaker 1: We'll be halfway through our show when that AFC Championship

1518
01:14:50,320 --> 01:14:54,840
Speaker 1: game kicks off between the Ravens and the Chiefs. But

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01:14:54,920 --> 01:14:58,320
Speaker 1: let's start with the NFC Championship game first, Ye forty

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01:14:58,400 --> 01:15:02,040
Speaker 1: nine Ers, about a seven point fi at home against

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01:15:02,040 --> 01:15:05,040
Speaker 1: the Lions. Give us a little play by play and

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01:15:05,080 --> 01:15:07,000
Speaker 1: how this is going to play out and give us

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01:15:07,000 --> 01:15:09,240
Speaker 1: a final score in that NFC Championship game.

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01:15:09,360 --> 01:15:13,840
Speaker 4: Yeah, I wish that Detroit was healthy upfront in this

1525
01:15:13,960 --> 01:15:16,240
Speaker 4: game because it would be so much more interesting of

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01:15:16,280 --> 01:15:21,080
Speaker 4: a game. I think Green Bay really came out in

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01:15:21,160 --> 01:15:24,719
Speaker 4: out physical San fran which we haven't seen too much

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01:15:24,760 --> 01:15:27,759
Speaker 4: of out of that team. So I wish they were healthy.

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01:15:27,800 --> 01:15:30,439
Speaker 4: They're not, and that's the reason I'm taking the forty

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01:15:30,520 --> 01:15:32,800
Speaker 4: nine ers. I think the forty nine ers got the

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01:15:32,800 --> 01:15:34,639
Speaker 4: bad one out the way. They're going to play better

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01:15:34,760 --> 01:15:37,760
Speaker 4: in game two. Win this playoff run, and I think

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01:15:37,800 --> 01:15:39,880
Speaker 4: Party's going to have a really good game bounce back.

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01:15:39,760 --> 01:15:43,120
Speaker 3: Game forty nine Ers. I say.

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01:15:44,439 --> 01:15:50,519
Speaker 4: Thirty thirty five to thirty five to twenty is the

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01:15:50,520 --> 01:15:51,519
Speaker 4: final score of that game.

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01:15:51,600 --> 01:15:55,360
Speaker 1: Thirty five to twenty. Yeah, I'm sort of on the

1538
01:15:55,439 --> 01:15:59,040
Speaker 1: same page with you as far as the Lions are concerned.

1539
01:15:59,080 --> 01:16:01,080
Speaker 1: So as we mentioned, and this is the first time,

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01:16:01,520 --> 01:16:03,559
Speaker 1: it's only the second time ever that the Lions have

1541
01:16:03,600 --> 01:16:07,200
Speaker 1: actually played in an NFC Championship game since the merger.

1542
01:16:09,280 --> 01:16:12,639
Speaker 1: And you go back to the playoffs back in nineteen

1543
01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,680
Speaker 1: ninety one and they played the Dallas Cowboys. That was

1544
01:16:16,720 --> 01:16:19,920
Speaker 1: the first time that the Akman Emitt Smith, that Jimmy

1545
01:16:20,000 --> 01:16:23,439
Speaker 1: Johnson team had been in the postseason, and they blew

1546
01:16:23,479 --> 01:16:27,200
Speaker 1: the doors off of them, thirty eight to six. Yep,

1547
01:16:27,439 --> 01:16:30,120
Speaker 1: thirty eight to six. That was the final score Lions

1548
01:16:30,160 --> 01:16:33,200
Speaker 1: over the Cowboys, thirty eight to six. Troy Aikman, Emmitt Smith,

1549
01:16:33,560 --> 01:16:38,120
Speaker 1: Michael Arverer thirty eight to six. The NFC Championship game,

1550
01:16:38,160 --> 01:16:41,160
Speaker 1: they lost forty one to ten to the then Redskins.

1551
01:16:42,360 --> 01:16:47,000
Speaker 1: I could see a very similar scenario. I think when

1552
01:16:47,040 --> 01:16:49,040
Speaker 1: we watched the forty nine Ers a week ago. All

1553
01:16:49,080 --> 01:16:51,640
Speaker 1: of a sudden, there were all these you know, warnings, Oh,

1554
01:16:51,680 --> 01:16:56,000
Speaker 1: Brock Purty, Mama looks too big for him, until it didn't.

1555
01:16:56,680 --> 01:16:58,120
Speaker 1: On that final drive.

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01:17:00,120 --> 01:17:00,479
Speaker 3: It didn't.

1557
01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:06,080
Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, And that to me was something he can

1558
01:17:06,160 --> 01:17:09,320
Speaker 1: build on. I hope we can keep this game close.

1559
01:17:10,080 --> 01:17:12,840
Speaker 1: I don't think it's going to be close. What was

1560
01:17:12,880 --> 01:17:16,040
Speaker 1: your final thirty five to twenty?

1561
01:17:16,080 --> 01:17:18,400
Speaker 3: What do you think? Not even that close?

1562
01:17:18,560 --> 01:17:21,879
Speaker 1: Not even that defense. I'd think like thirty eight to fourteen.

1563
01:17:22,800 --> 01:17:25,160
Speaker 1: I just see a forty nine er route. Of course,

1564
01:17:25,240 --> 01:17:28,640
Speaker 1: everybody listening to my now is calling their book and

1565
01:17:28,680 --> 01:17:31,120
Speaker 1: immediately putting all the money he of halbs on my

1566
01:17:31,160 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 1: opposite side. So if you listen to me long enough,

1567
01:17:34,920 --> 01:17:36,960
Speaker 1: you know how that works. All right, let's go to

1568
01:17:37,000 --> 01:17:40,599
Speaker 1: the AFC game between the Chiefs and the Ravens, first

1569
01:17:40,600 --> 01:17:43,599
Speaker 1: game tomorrow. How is this game going to play out?

1570
01:17:43,600 --> 01:17:44,679
Speaker 1: And what is your final score?

1571
01:17:44,920 --> 01:17:46,559
Speaker 3: Yeah? I think this game is going to play.

1572
01:17:46,320 --> 01:17:52,200
Speaker 4: Out in a manner that many may not agree with.

1573
01:17:54,280 --> 01:17:57,760
Speaker 4: We have two good defenses. I think one defense is

1574
01:17:59,320 --> 01:18:03,200
Speaker 4: still even light years better than that other defense. And

1575
01:18:03,240 --> 01:18:05,160
Speaker 4: I think we have a hungry team that's coming out

1576
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:09,400
Speaker 4: of Baltimore that's just going to be able to.

1577
01:18:11,160 --> 01:18:14,640
Speaker 3: Put this team away. And I see the game being I.

1578
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,519
Speaker 4: Don't know the over under in this game, but I

1579
01:18:17,560 --> 01:18:23,480
Speaker 4: see this score being thirty to thirteen Baltimore.

1580
01:18:23,720 --> 01:18:28,360
Speaker 1: Wow. Wow, all right, I know you're speaking from your

1581
01:18:28,360 --> 01:18:32,479
Speaker 1: heart as well with your tie to Lamar. I don't

1582
01:18:32,479 --> 01:18:35,200
Speaker 1: see that for this game tomorrow, YEP. In fact, what

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01:18:35,280 --> 01:18:38,200
Speaker 1: I see tomorrow is a little bit of what we've

1584
01:18:38,200 --> 01:18:41,799
Speaker 1: been talking about, and that is the greatness of Patrick mahomes.

1585
01:18:41,880 --> 01:18:48,880
Speaker 1: Oh final score Chiefs twenty seven Ravens twenty four, and

1586
01:18:48,960 --> 01:18:50,760
Speaker 1: I see it as one of those games where the

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01:18:50,880 --> 01:18:54,960
Speaker 1: Ravens are being challenged, but it seems like they have

1588
01:18:55,040 --> 01:18:58,479
Speaker 1: the game under controls very similar to the Bills, I

1589
01:18:58,479 --> 01:19:01,600
Speaker 1: mean the Mills. It looked like they you know, was

1590
01:19:01,640 --> 01:19:07,200
Speaker 1: sort of a shootout back and forth until he gets

1591
01:19:07,240 --> 01:19:10,240
Speaker 1: over the hump. I still have to be a little

1592
01:19:10,240 --> 01:19:13,800
Speaker 1: skeptical about Lamar and what will be the biggest game

1593
01:19:13,840 --> 01:19:16,599
Speaker 1: of his NFL career. I'm not taking anything away from

1594
01:19:16,600 --> 01:19:20,120
Speaker 1: his greatness. I'm just saying that he's going up against

1595
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:23,599
Speaker 1: the quarterback that's been there and done that. And I

1596
01:19:23,680 --> 01:19:26,360
Speaker 1: think that win on the road against Buffalo, and it

1597
01:19:26,400 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: was an emotional game, and I've heard the argument that

1598
01:19:28,840 --> 01:19:31,599
Speaker 1: you know, it's going to take something out of Kansas

1599
01:19:31,640 --> 01:19:34,120
Speaker 1: City having to go on the road against that big

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01:19:34,240 --> 01:19:38,160
Speaker 1: rival Buffalo and escape when you know wide Wright, who

1601
01:19:38,200 --> 01:19:42,920
Speaker 1: knows what goes on after that. But I just think

1602
01:19:43,000 --> 01:19:45,559
Speaker 1: that again, until I see otherwise, I got to go

1603
01:19:45,640 --> 01:19:48,920
Speaker 1: with Mahomes. So I'm going to say, Chiefs twenty seven

1604
01:19:49,640 --> 01:19:50,519
Speaker 1: Ravens twenty four.

1605
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:51,400
Speaker 2: It's going to be a classic.

1606
01:19:51,560 --> 01:19:52,479
Speaker 3: You think it's gonna be a classic.

1607
01:19:52,520 --> 01:19:55,000
Speaker 1: I don't think that Lamar will play poorly. I just

1608
01:19:55,040 --> 01:19:57,880
Speaker 1: think that in the end, Mahomes is going to make

1609
01:19:57,960 --> 01:19:59,200
Speaker 1: one more play.

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01:19:59,320 --> 01:20:03,879
Speaker 4: Don't let Mahome Homes mahomes greatness fool you, Steve. Their

1611
01:20:04,000 --> 01:20:09,040
Speaker 4: offense is just they don't have the pieces to compete

1612
01:20:09,080 --> 01:20:10,320
Speaker 4: with their boss and the Ravens.

1613
01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:13,000
Speaker 1: Clearly, we remember what the Ravens did to the forty

1614
01:20:13,080 --> 01:20:14,839
Speaker 1: nine ers in Santa Clara.

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01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:19,720
Speaker 3: I'm telling you they dominated that. I'm with you.

1616
01:20:19,880 --> 01:20:21,000
Speaker 2: Everything points so.

1617
01:20:21,080 --> 01:20:23,160
Speaker 1: By the way, the betting line open at like three,

1618
01:20:23,200 --> 01:20:25,760
Speaker 1: it's up to four, and climbing money is pouring in

1619
01:20:25,840 --> 01:20:29,200
Speaker 1: on the Ravens, and that just makes no sense when

1620
01:20:29,240 --> 01:20:30,680
Speaker 1: you got Patrick Mahomes on the.

1621
01:20:30,640 --> 01:20:33,759
Speaker 3: Other side, does Steve there don't? They are the void

1622
01:20:33,880 --> 01:20:34,720
Speaker 3: of weapons.

1623
01:20:35,080 --> 01:20:37,439
Speaker 1: So we'll see, all right, So where you watching the

1624
01:20:37,439 --> 01:20:38,080
Speaker 1: game tomorrow?

1625
01:20:38,880 --> 01:20:40,320
Speaker 3: I got to figure that out. I don't know yet.

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01:20:40,520 --> 01:20:42,519
Speaker 1: You better figure it out, all right? We got much

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Speaker 1: more coming up. Stay right here. This is Fox Sports Radio.