1 00:00:00,080 --> 00:00:00,800 Speaker 1: Breaking news. 2 00:00:00,960 --> 00:00:05,280 Speaker 2: Mets just sign JD. Martinez. You guys have been wanting it, 3 00:00:05,360 --> 00:00:08,320 Speaker 2: You've been waiting for it. We're finally able to talk 4 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:11,119 Speaker 2: about it because it's happened. Jad Martinez is a New 5 00:00:11,200 --> 00:00:23,119 Speaker 2: York Met Let's get going into this. What is up? 6 00:00:23,120 --> 00:00:25,319 Speaker 2: Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode of the Mets 7 00:00:25,400 --> 00:00:29,120 Speaker 2: Up podcast and tonight this morning, whatever it is, we're 8 00:00:29,120 --> 00:00:31,720 Speaker 2: currently ripping this at two twenty two in the morning 9 00:00:31,760 --> 00:00:35,440 Speaker 2: on March twenty second. A lot of two's here. JD Martin, Tinez, 10 00:00:35,720 --> 00:00:40,440 Speaker 2: Julio Daniel Martinez formerly if you're gonna or formally, if 11 00:00:40,479 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 2: you're gonna call him that is now in New York 12 00:00:42,320 --> 00:00:44,000 Speaker 2: Met and James, I know you just had a night 13 00:00:44,080 --> 00:00:46,199 Speaker 2: on the town. What are the thoughts going through the 14 00:00:46,240 --> 00:00:48,479 Speaker 2: head here? When you see JD. Martinez is signed. 15 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,160 Speaker 1: He almost dropped, like Julio Dan to Martinez. You almost 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: said that right there, You almost dropped the extra two 17 00:00:54,240 --> 00:00:57,160 Speaker 1: inside of his name. But it's awesome. This is what 18 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:58,800 Speaker 1: Mets fans have been wanting to hold as Steas and 19 00:00:58,800 --> 00:01:00,760 Speaker 1: you guys wanted the real DH, wanted to real clean 20 00:01:00,840 --> 00:01:02,520 Speaker 1: up hire. He wanted somebody else in the line up 21 00:01:02,560 --> 00:01:04,800 Speaker 1: with real power. He wanted protection from Pete A. Lonzo. 22 00:01:06,120 --> 00:01:08,720 Speaker 1: It's amazing the Mess did this. It's shocking that there's 23 00:01:08,760 --> 00:01:11,199 Speaker 1: a significant free agent signing in the middle of March 24 00:01:11,240 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 1: madness on a Thursday evening. I would never have expected 25 00:01:14,080 --> 00:01:16,399 Speaker 1: that at the beginning of the off season. But the 26 00:01:16,440 --> 00:01:21,080 Speaker 1: Mess just did something that probably somewhat significantly altered their 27 00:01:21,120 --> 00:01:24,320 Speaker 1: playoff odds. And that's something that's like, truthfully and it's honestly, 28 00:01:24,360 --> 00:01:26,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, it's weird to say this about a 29 00:01:26,160 --> 00:01:28,679 Speaker 1: thirty six year old going at thirty seven, but this 30 00:01:28,720 --> 00:01:31,920 Speaker 1: is something that happened that probably could change the complex, 31 00:01:32,120 --> 00:01:35,160 Speaker 1: weirdly of the Mets season in like a very non 32 00:01:35,200 --> 00:01:38,560 Speaker 1: exaggerated way, non hyperbolic. It is significant because it changes 33 00:01:38,600 --> 00:01:39,319 Speaker 1: something about the team. 34 00:01:39,400 --> 00:01:41,360 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean, I know we've been a little bit 35 00:01:41,760 --> 00:01:44,200 Speaker 2: coy about our feelings of bringing in Jady Martinez on 36 00:01:44,200 --> 00:01:46,080 Speaker 2: this podcast. We've always said he's gonna help this team, 37 00:01:46,360 --> 00:01:49,520 Speaker 2: but we weren't necessarily screaming from the mountaintops that we 38 00:01:49,640 --> 00:01:52,600 Speaker 2: need to get Jade Martinez. But that being said, now 39 00:01:52,600 --> 00:01:55,600 Speaker 2: that he's here, I'm excited. I'm super excited. I'm super happy. 40 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,040 Speaker 2: He completely changes that whole who hits four. Conversation now 41 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,800 Speaker 2: on the line up here it is it's Jad Martinez. 42 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 2: Je Martinez is hitting forth. We don't have to fucking 43 00:02:03,320 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 2: talk about whether Jeff McNeil's the right guy, whether Brandon 44 00:02:05,520 --> 00:02:09,080 Speaker 2: Nemo's the right guy. It's JD Martinez every single day 45 00:02:09,320 --> 00:02:12,079 Speaker 2: hitting forth in that lineup. You can have the protection 46 00:02:12,200 --> 00:02:15,120 Speaker 2: now behind Pete Alonzo that every Met fan so desperately wants. 47 00:02:15,520 --> 00:02:18,120 Speaker 2: This is a move that now takes this lineup and 48 00:02:18,200 --> 00:02:21,800 Speaker 2: makes it look really, really dangerous, especially because now you 49 00:02:21,840 --> 00:02:23,600 Speaker 2: just get to move some other hitters down the order. 50 00:02:24,440 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: It's it adds a lot of depth. That's something I 51 00:02:26,360 --> 00:02:29,240 Speaker 2: think that Mets fans have been dying for. You look 52 00:02:29,280 --> 00:02:30,760 Speaker 2: at what the DH has done over the last couple 53 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:32,680 Speaker 2: of seasons for the Mets, and they've had some of 54 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 2: the worst performances statistically out of the DH position in 55 00:02:36,520 --> 00:02:39,919 Speaker 2: terms of ops in baseball. They've just been bad. They 56 00:02:39,960 --> 00:02:41,839 Speaker 2: have not been very good. So to get a guy 57 00:02:41,840 --> 00:02:44,000 Speaker 2: like JD in there who as all as long as 58 00:02:44,040 --> 00:02:45,720 Speaker 2: all things go the way they should, it could be 59 00:02:45,760 --> 00:02:46,840 Speaker 2: a thirty plus home run guy. 60 00:02:46,840 --> 00:02:48,960 Speaker 1: It's also funny because we said in the last episode, 61 00:02:49,000 --> 00:02:50,320 Speaker 1: like it seems like the Mets are going to be 62 00:02:50,360 --> 00:02:52,919 Speaker 1: in the market for somebody because DJ Stewart looks like shit. 63 00:02:53,200 --> 00:02:55,680 Speaker 1: G Manchoi is not good, Luke Void is not good. 64 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:58,280 Speaker 1: Like there's a and like Mark Vento's looks okay. But 65 00:02:58,280 --> 00:03:00,000 Speaker 1: he didn't like take the job by the horns, you think, 66 00:03:00,040 --> 00:03:02,160 Speaker 1: grab it. He didn't demand it. So it felt like 67 00:03:02,200 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: there was going to be something that happened, and we 68 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:06,959 Speaker 1: found out from Andy Martino like as the contract is 69 00:03:07,000 --> 00:03:08,560 Speaker 1: being signed at the Mets were only going to sign 70 00:03:08,680 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 1: JJ Martinez if it became what will he say, like irresistible, 71 00:03:12,400 --> 00:03:15,120 Speaker 1: something like weird and scrumptious, the Landy Martino vibes where 72 00:03:15,160 --> 00:03:17,040 Speaker 1: it was like they have to take it, they can't 73 00:03:17,080 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: not take it, menm mam Andy Martino. But it just 74 00:03:20,000 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 1: became the fact that the Mets got an offer for 75 00:03:21,960 --> 00:03:23,840 Speaker 1: four and a half million dollars with the rest of 76 00:03:23,880 --> 00:03:26,440 Speaker 1: it being deferred, so it's a real contract value was 77 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,320 Speaker 1: one for twelve, but really it's like one for a 78 00:03:28,400 --> 00:03:30,720 Speaker 1: nine and a half or like one for ten, and 79 00:03:30,960 --> 00:03:32,880 Speaker 1: even if you're doubling that because you have to because 80 00:03:32,880 --> 00:03:35,120 Speaker 1: we're over the third level luxury attack for JD. Martinez 81 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,800 Speaker 1: for possibly thirty home runs to two eighty batting average 82 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,360 Speaker 1: and one to twenty five WRC plus twenty five percent 83 00:03:40,400 --> 00:03:42,960 Speaker 1: by the league average, Like it's a little bit silly 84 00:03:43,000 --> 00:03:45,040 Speaker 1: not to take that when you're projected DH is like 85 00:03:45,280 --> 00:03:47,760 Speaker 1: hopefully one hundred WRC plus, Hopefully guys can be in 86 00:03:47,760 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 1: the lineup every day, hopefully not someone you have to 87 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:51,840 Speaker 1: send down to the minor leagues. Like that's kind of 88 00:03:51,840 --> 00:03:53,680 Speaker 1: what it comes down to. It. It's at the end 89 00:03:53,680 --> 00:03:55,440 Speaker 1: of the day, it's like it's like there's tons of 90 00:03:55,480 --> 00:03:57,320 Speaker 1: risk on JJ Martin's which I guess we'll talk about 91 00:03:57,360 --> 00:03:59,200 Speaker 1: after we're really excited for the next five minutes. But 92 00:04:00,120 --> 00:04:02,040 Speaker 1: it's an easy decision. I'm happy it's one that the 93 00:04:02,040 --> 00:04:02,960 Speaker 1: Mets wound up making. 94 00:04:03,040 --> 00:04:04,560 Speaker 2: Yeah, you look at the good stuff you mentioned all 95 00:04:04,560 --> 00:04:07,360 Speaker 2: those numbers, but even looking at the MLB Baseball Savon 96 00:04:07,440 --> 00:04:10,960 Speaker 2: percentile rankings in terms of average EXIVLO last year, ninety 97 00:04:11,000 --> 00:04:13,720 Speaker 2: eighth percentile ninety three point four percent. Barrel rate was 98 00:04:13,800 --> 00:04:16,960 Speaker 2: ninety eighth percentile at seventeen point one percent, which is disgusting. 99 00:04:17,200 --> 00:04:20,599 Speaker 2: Hard hit rate fifty five point one percent, ninety eighth percentile, 100 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:24,040 Speaker 2: sweet spot rate ninety seven percentile, forty one percent rate. 101 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,719 Speaker 2: There's a lot of red in the stuff that matters. Now. 102 00:04:26,839 --> 00:04:28,520 Speaker 2: There are some negatives to his game, and again we'll 103 00:04:28,520 --> 00:04:30,440 Speaker 2: talk about that a little bit later, but he's a 104 00:04:30,480 --> 00:04:32,800 Speaker 2: guy who last year really seemed to sell out for power, 105 00:04:32,800 --> 00:04:35,040 Speaker 2: pulled the baseball a lot more than he has in 106 00:04:35,080 --> 00:04:37,479 Speaker 2: his previous years in his career because he's been a 107 00:04:37,520 --> 00:04:39,880 Speaker 2: guy with power to right center field, and that's something 108 00:04:39,880 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 2: that I think we'll play better now at Cityfield, because 109 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:43,160 Speaker 2: if you went to right center, gonna be tough to 110 00:04:43,200 --> 00:04:45,200 Speaker 2: put up some numbers there. But pulling it down the 111 00:04:45,240 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 2: line and left field, we've seen some sluggers do that. 112 00:04:47,200 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: Guy like Pete Alonso really really excited for what this 113 00:04:50,440 --> 00:04:52,560 Speaker 2: could bring. We just we just threw thirty home runs 114 00:04:52,560 --> 00:04:55,040 Speaker 2: into this line about a position where we thought fingers 115 00:04:55,080 --> 00:04:56,480 Speaker 2: crossed we'd get fifteen or twenty. 116 00:04:57,240 --> 00:04:59,880 Speaker 1: And last year the Mets, as DH is on the 117 00:04:59,880 --> 00:05:02,920 Speaker 1: T team, ninety five WRC plus worse than league average. 118 00:05:02,920 --> 00:05:05,919 Speaker 1: The year before twenty twenty two, ninety eight WRC plus 119 00:05:05,960 --> 00:05:09,279 Speaker 1: lifted up by Daniel Volgelback, but still worse than league average. 120 00:05:09,360 --> 00:05:11,919 Speaker 1: You even go back to twenty twenty one, which was 121 00:05:12,880 --> 00:05:14,840 Speaker 1: this actually hilarious. That was not. There was no DH 122 00:05:14,880 --> 00:05:16,520 Speaker 1: in twenty twenty one, right in National League. It wasn't 123 00:05:16,520 --> 00:05:17,600 Speaker 1: officially yet, was it. 124 00:05:17,680 --> 00:05:20,000 Speaker 2: No, that was the last year that they hit I believe, Okay, 125 00:05:20,000 --> 00:05:22,400 Speaker 2: because funny the Mets actually forty one position played the 126 00:05:22,400 --> 00:05:24,640 Speaker 2: appearances for a DH in twenty twenty one. 127 00:05:25,120 --> 00:05:28,000 Speaker 1: One sixty eight WRC plus, the highest in Major League Baseball. 128 00:05:28,200 --> 00:05:30,760 Speaker 1: Is probably just Planso heading a fucking bunch of home runs, 129 00:05:30,760 --> 00:05:33,000 Speaker 1: but it just it changed it. The Mets didn't have 130 00:05:33,080 --> 00:05:35,039 Speaker 1: that many guys in the lineup with thirty home run power. 131 00:05:35,680 --> 00:05:38,680 Speaker 1: The Mets didn't really even have four good hitters in 132 00:05:38,680 --> 00:05:40,800 Speaker 1: the lineup. We love Francisco Alvarez, we think he's gonna 133 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:42,440 Speaker 1: be great baseball player, but it seemed like there was 134 00:05:42,440 --> 00:05:45,000 Speaker 1: still plenty of risk on his profile for twenty twenty four, 135 00:05:45,440 --> 00:05:48,279 Speaker 1: and now this just adds into it. It's just it 136 00:05:48,360 --> 00:05:50,800 Speaker 1: seems like it was easy. It's almost weird. It's almost 137 00:05:50,800 --> 00:05:53,920 Speaker 1: suspicious to me that nobody else was willing to give JD. 138 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:57,080 Speaker 1: Martinez any contract with any money deferred coming off the 139 00:05:57,120 --> 00:05:59,440 Speaker 1: amazing season he just had with the Dodgers. But I 140 00:05:59,440 --> 00:06:01,599 Speaker 1: guess we'll just take it and the worst case scenario 141 00:06:01,760 --> 00:06:04,359 Speaker 1: if he sucks. It's a one year contract. Who the 142 00:06:04,400 --> 00:06:06,720 Speaker 1: fuck cares. It's just now we have the upside of 143 00:06:06,800 --> 00:06:09,479 Speaker 1: Jady Martinez, who's never been bad for a decade, just 144 00:06:09,520 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 1: in the middle of the lineup, and see how it 145 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:11,400 Speaker 1: sounds good to me? 146 00:06:11,560 --> 00:06:14,120 Speaker 2: Yeah, it sounds sounds great to me. Super excited with this. 147 00:06:14,440 --> 00:06:18,000 Speaker 2: John Hayman just completely pulled the uh, pulled the fast 148 00:06:18,000 --> 00:06:19,640 Speaker 2: one on us. Just was not ready for it. Like 149 00:06:19,640 --> 00:06:21,919 Speaker 2: you said, watching Mark Madness, I was mourning my loss 150 00:06:21,920 --> 00:06:24,840 Speaker 2: with the South Carolina game cock still and uh, We're 151 00:06:24,880 --> 00:06:27,480 Speaker 2: sitting with Ernie and Drew in my apartment and Ernie's like, 152 00:06:27,520 --> 00:06:29,560 Speaker 2: oh my god, the Mets signed Jady Martinez. I was like, 153 00:06:29,560 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 2: shut the fuck up. And then I checked Twitter and 154 00:06:31,520 --> 00:06:33,680 Speaker 2: it was all over the place. I think Mets fans 155 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 2: across the board should be happy about this move. I 156 00:06:36,000 --> 00:06:38,560 Speaker 2: don't really know how you couldn't be. If you're all 157 00:06:38,600 --> 00:06:41,119 Speaker 2: you fucking David Stearns haters out there, Is this enough? 158 00:06:41,240 --> 00:06:43,000 Speaker 2: Is this the move that you wanted? Are you gonna 159 00:06:43,000 --> 00:06:44,719 Speaker 2: finally shut the fuck up that this guy knows what 160 00:06:44,760 --> 00:06:47,720 Speaker 2: he's doing because he just got someone who hit thirty 161 00:06:47,760 --> 00:06:49,960 Speaker 2: five home runs, a nine hundred ops for four and 162 00:06:50,000 --> 00:06:52,560 Speaker 2: a half million dollars this year, Like, please please trust 163 00:06:52,560 --> 00:06:52,960 Speaker 2: the guy. 164 00:06:52,920 --> 00:06:57,839 Speaker 1: Shout out Twitter, God, I think nyw N why why 165 00:06:58,000 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: wrld Sorry guys, I've been out to o'clock in the morning. 166 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:03,800 Speaker 1: But he Addison on Twitter. Yeah litt drunk, a little runk. Well, 167 00:07:03,839 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: that happens some fun. But JJ Martinez was a significantly 168 00:07:07,640 --> 00:07:09,680 Speaker 1: better here than Justin Turner last year, over the last 169 00:07:09,720 --> 00:07:12,240 Speaker 1: couple of years, and he just signed for less money 170 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: than Justin Turner and the guy who get more ceiling, 171 00:07:14,760 --> 00:07:17,240 Speaker 1: less money, more money deferred, less present value. It just 172 00:07:17,280 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: seems like if this contract was signed in the middle 173 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,760 Speaker 1: of January, Mets fans would have been kissing David Seerns 174 00:07:22,800 --> 00:07:24,840 Speaker 1: his feet. And now the fact that it was signed 175 00:07:24,880 --> 00:07:27,400 Speaker 1: on March twenty second, and I don't know, I feel 176 00:07:27,440 --> 00:07:28,960 Speaker 1: like JJ Martinz is kind of like a get out 177 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:30,520 Speaker 1: of bed and start hitting guy. I don't I don't 178 00:07:30,520 --> 00:07:33,360 Speaker 1: think he's not gonna be ready for Opening Day. Ill know, 179 00:07:33,560 --> 00:07:36,360 Speaker 1: this is this feels kind of amazing, Like it was 180 00:07:36,360 --> 00:07:38,840 Speaker 1: a moment where the Mets might have looked around the 181 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,880 Speaker 1: National League and we're like, all right, shit, the Padres 182 00:07:42,000 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 1: just traded for Dylan Cees Okay, fuck the chick or 183 00:07:45,480 --> 00:07:48,200 Speaker 1: Giants just signed Blake SNeW like our main competitors for 184 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,880 Speaker 1: the wildcard spots at the National League. I'mon, Backs got better. 185 00:07:51,880 --> 00:07:54,200 Speaker 1: I mean, brother Driguez just gonna hurt a big Diymbacks 186 00:07:54,200 --> 00:07:56,240 Speaker 1: hated this year. I don't know, an not gonna be 187 00:07:56,320 --> 00:07:58,240 Speaker 1: very yeah, he did. He left to start spring training 188 00:07:58,240 --> 00:08:00,760 Speaker 1: star a few days ago. So there, you had to 189 00:08:00,760 --> 00:08:02,560 Speaker 1: get better than these teams just got better in front 190 00:08:02,560 --> 00:08:04,160 Speaker 1: of you, and there was a very obvious spot to 191 00:08:04,200 --> 00:08:06,360 Speaker 1: do it. The biggest weakness in this Mets team was 192 00:08:06,400 --> 00:08:09,560 Speaker 1: probably just lacking one more middle of the lineup power bad. 193 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,160 Speaker 1: And they were like, we could just solve this very easily. 194 00:08:12,440 --> 00:08:14,240 Speaker 1: Like the report came out a few weeks ago, the 195 00:08:14,240 --> 00:08:15,920 Speaker 1: wee kind of poo pooed on this show that Steve 196 00:08:15,920 --> 00:08:18,040 Speaker 1: Comb was willing to spend the money for JJ Martinez, 197 00:08:18,080 --> 00:08:19,520 Speaker 1: that they were engaged in talks. They were like, all right, 198 00:08:19,600 --> 00:08:21,760 Speaker 1: there's no way that's true. This doesn't seem like a 199 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,880 Speaker 1: true based on the tenor of the off season. But 200 00:08:24,840 --> 00:08:26,600 Speaker 1: we've talked about the fact that j. J. Martinez was 201 00:08:26,600 --> 00:08:29,080 Speaker 1: probably seeking two years coming off a thirty home run 202 00:08:29,120 --> 00:08:31,200 Speaker 1: season with the Dodgers, and now he just there was 203 00:08:31,240 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 1: it wasn't going to happen. So now he gets a 204 00:08:32,760 --> 00:08:34,880 Speaker 1: one year offer, and the one year offer, we're like, 205 00:08:34,960 --> 00:08:36,760 Speaker 1: we're still not ready to do it. And now suddenly 206 00:08:36,840 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 1: it's a five million dollars one year value. We're like, 207 00:08:39,360 --> 00:08:41,560 Speaker 1: that's very easy. For someone who thinks gonna hit thirty 208 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,319 Speaker 1: home runs have a two sixty average. 209 00:08:43,080 --> 00:08:44,720 Speaker 2: Might might look back and be like, oh, wow, well, 210 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:46,760 Speaker 2: one of the best contracts given out all offseason. The 211 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,880 Speaker 2: Mets got that kind of production for five million dollars. 212 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,679 Speaker 1: It's just a world where like this might have changed 213 00:08:50,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 1: our playoff odds from like twenty percent to like thirty 214 00:08:53,000 --> 00:08:55,680 Speaker 1: five percent or forty percent right now, where something after 215 00:08:56,480 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: after the dodge of the Giants and the Padres got 216 00:08:58,480 --> 00:09:00,959 Speaker 1: significantly better and nationally Central guy a lot better for 217 00:09:01,000 --> 00:09:03,320 Speaker 1: the last few weeks too. Now we're back in the mix, 218 00:09:03,360 --> 00:09:05,960 Speaker 1: like we could really be a playoff team. This lineup 219 00:09:06,040 --> 00:09:08,960 Speaker 1: is I I'll go as far as saying good right now, 220 00:09:09,120 --> 00:09:13,520 Speaker 1: legitimately good up and down one through seven, it's fucking good. 221 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: If Brett Baty keeps hitting like he's hitting the spring, 222 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:18,319 Speaker 1: it's really good. And then you have Harrison Baider just 223 00:09:18,360 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: playing center field, like this is suddenly a baseball team 224 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 1: that you probably aren't super excited to pitch against. 225 00:09:23,880 --> 00:09:27,120 Speaker 2: No, definitely not. And the biggest question will be health, 226 00:09:27,200 --> 00:09:29,679 Speaker 2: will be pitching, will be consistency from this team. It 227 00:09:29,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 2: will be if the young guys can step up, like 228 00:09:31,320 --> 00:09:34,480 Speaker 2: you said with Brett Baty and Mark Vientos and Francisco Alfarez, 229 00:09:34,480 --> 00:09:36,920 Speaker 2: if Jeff McNeil can have the bounce back, if Starling Marte. 230 00:09:36,960 --> 00:09:38,400 Speaker 2: There's still a lot of ifs. We're not telling you 231 00:09:38,440 --> 00:09:40,079 Speaker 2: that this is the move that now makes the Mets 232 00:09:40,800 --> 00:09:43,440 Speaker 2: a playoff favorite by any means, but just the idea 233 00:09:43,440 --> 00:09:47,199 Speaker 2: that there's now more consistency, more things that you can 234 00:09:47,240 --> 00:09:50,200 Speaker 2: depend on a little more reliably in this lineup is 235 00:09:50,240 --> 00:09:51,800 Speaker 2: going to be a great thing. And I don't even 236 00:09:51,800 --> 00:09:53,280 Speaker 2: think we need to tell you guys that you guys 237 00:09:53,280 --> 00:09:54,680 Speaker 2: wanted JD Martinez all along. 238 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:56,199 Speaker 1: Yeah, And I'm gonna try to like tell people that 239 00:09:56,240 --> 00:09:58,000 Speaker 1: we're a playoff team. I just gave you the ceiling 240 00:09:58,000 --> 00:10:00,640 Speaker 1: as a forty percent playoff team. We're that's the Mess 241 00:10:00,720 --> 00:10:02,360 Speaker 1: Up Podcast. We're gonna give you some vibes, We're gonna 242 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:03,840 Speaker 1: give you some emotion, We're also gonna give you a 243 00:10:03,840 --> 00:10:06,720 Speaker 1: guided statistical take because it's still the truth. This team 244 00:10:06,760 --> 00:10:07,280 Speaker 1: still as wholes. 245 00:10:07,320 --> 00:10:09,199 Speaker 2: Do you think that this was also a little bit 246 00:10:09,200 --> 00:10:12,600 Speaker 2: of the Mets being like, you just gotta make the playoffs, 247 00:10:12,600 --> 00:10:14,559 Speaker 2: like playoffs are a crapshoot here, Like get to the 248 00:10:14,600 --> 00:10:17,360 Speaker 2: playoffs and see what damage we can do, Like let's 249 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:19,080 Speaker 2: worry about the playoffs when we have to worry about 250 00:10:19,120 --> 00:10:21,240 Speaker 2: it right now. Getting a guy like JD, like you said, 251 00:10:21,280 --> 00:10:22,480 Speaker 2: just bumps up the odds. 252 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:24,240 Speaker 1: Even more totally. I even think past that's kind of 253 00:10:24,240 --> 00:10:27,200 Speaker 1: the fact that we again people don't want to admit it, 254 00:10:27,240 --> 00:10:29,160 Speaker 1: but we still have an owner who's like, I would 255 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,720 Speaker 1: like to win games. If winning games the possibility and 256 00:10:31,800 --> 00:10:34,120 Speaker 1: probably over fifty percent of Major League BASEB right now 257 00:10:34,240 --> 00:10:37,160 Speaker 1: is like I would rather just make have wins at 258 00:10:37,200 --> 00:10:39,160 Speaker 1: the dollar cost value I want to have them at, 259 00:10:39,280 --> 00:10:41,240 Speaker 1: rather than like I just want to play ball. And 260 00:10:41,360 --> 00:10:43,319 Speaker 1: this is significant because we are over the third level 261 00:10:43,400 --> 00:10:45,480 Speaker 1: luxury tax. It's probably a good signal for next year 262 00:10:45,480 --> 00:10:47,800 Speaker 1: in free agency, where the Mets could go between one 263 00:10:47,800 --> 00:10:50,480 Speaker 1: and solo of pe Alonzo, Corbyn Burns, so Alex Bragman, 264 00:10:50,559 --> 00:10:52,280 Speaker 1: all the guys in the free agency market next year 265 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:54,320 Speaker 1: where it's just like I want to win baseball games. 266 00:10:54,360 --> 00:10:56,960 Speaker 1: If I can win baseball games without I think it's 267 00:10:56,960 --> 00:10:59,400 Speaker 1: fully endangering the future of my ball club. Like I'm 268 00:10:59,440 --> 00:11:01,079 Speaker 1: going to do it. And this is a deal where 269 00:11:01,120 --> 00:11:02,960 Speaker 1: it was like I give a one year deal for 270 00:11:02,960 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 1: a guy that his thirty home runs every single season, 271 00:11:05,200 --> 00:11:06,480 Speaker 1: like that is a good deal for me. The guy 272 00:11:06,520 --> 00:11:09,080 Speaker 1: who had a ninety eighth percentile barrow rate last season, 273 00:11:09,400 --> 00:11:11,880 Speaker 1: a guy who just that's it, Like this is a 274 00:11:11,920 --> 00:11:12,360 Speaker 1: good deal. 275 00:11:12,480 --> 00:11:13,920 Speaker 2: Now, I will tell you Mets fans at home, he's 276 00:11:13,960 --> 00:11:15,480 Speaker 2: going to strike out a ton. He struck out thirty 277 00:11:15,480 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: one percent of the time last year. He w yeah, 278 00:11:17,360 --> 00:11:18,760 Speaker 2: thirty four percent of the time. That's some of the 279 00:11:18,840 --> 00:11:21,760 Speaker 2: lowest and major League Baseball in terms of those percentile 280 00:11:21,840 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 2: rankings highest. But it's because he sold that or yeah yeah, 281 00:11:24,920 --> 00:11:26,880 Speaker 2: but it's because he sold out for power. He sold 282 00:11:26,920 --> 00:11:28,960 Speaker 2: which I know he's a power hitter always, but again, 283 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:30,880 Speaker 2: he added to all fields. Last year, he pulled the 284 00:11:30,880 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 2: ball significantly more. Majority of his home runs were still 285 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:35,480 Speaker 2: hit to left field. And this is a guy who's 286 00:11:35,480 --> 00:11:36,400 Speaker 2: gonna do a lot of damage. 287 00:11:36,440 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: That's the part that I'm a little bit like I'll 288 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:39,760 Speaker 1: to throw cold wall to be a little concerned with 289 00:11:39,920 --> 00:11:42,360 Speaker 1: because the Dodgers have this secret sauce for hitting, and 290 00:11:42,440 --> 00:11:45,079 Speaker 1: JJ Martinez was Dodger last year. They can coax more 291 00:11:45,080 --> 00:11:47,720 Speaker 1: out of most hitters than other teams in the league. 292 00:11:47,720 --> 00:11:49,440 Speaker 1: And the fact that JD went there and last year, 293 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:51,920 Speaker 1: in fewer than five hundred played appearance, has had thirty 294 00:11:51,920 --> 00:11:54,880 Speaker 1: three home runs with a five seventy slug a nine 295 00:11:54,920 --> 00:11:56,800 Speaker 1: hundred ough ps, Like, that's kind of disgusting. That's a 296 00:11:56,840 --> 00:11:58,959 Speaker 1: lot of things, and city Field, it does weird things 297 00:11:59,000 --> 00:12:00,800 Speaker 1: to hitters, does bad things. Hitters don't even go as 298 00:12:00,800 --> 00:12:03,880 Speaker 1: far as saying the Jets streams from LaGuardia, the winds 299 00:12:03,880 --> 00:12:06,320 Speaker 1: from the ocean, the batther's eye with the apple, we 300 00:12:06,400 --> 00:12:08,240 Speaker 1: do bad things in our stadium to hit is that 301 00:12:08,320 --> 00:12:10,880 Speaker 1: we can't really even quantify in like statistical baseball term. 302 00:12:10,920 --> 00:12:12,640 Speaker 1: So I'm worried that a guy like J. J. Martinez, 303 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:14,839 Speaker 1: who's been making a living in bandboxes for the last 304 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: seven eight years, come to city Field and maybe the 305 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,720 Speaker 1: home runs go from thirty three to twenty seven and 306 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:21,640 Speaker 1: then Mets fans freak the fuck out because it's not 307 00:12:21,640 --> 00:12:23,200 Speaker 1: a thirty home run guy anymore. I don't know. That 308 00:12:23,240 --> 00:12:25,120 Speaker 1: part scares me, and the strikekout scared me. The fact 309 00:12:25,120 --> 00:12:26,960 Speaker 1: that he's thirty six years old. The Dodgers were like, 310 00:12:27,000 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: we don't really actually want you that badly, but shoheo 311 00:12:29,880 --> 00:12:33,120 Speaker 1: Tani occupied DH but so nobody all has seeming office 312 00:12:33,120 --> 00:12:36,360 Speaker 1: sky contract. Took a five million dollar one year contract 313 00:12:36,400 --> 00:12:38,520 Speaker 1: technically with deferred money. That part is weird to me, 314 00:12:38,559 --> 00:12:41,400 Speaker 1: but I'm not gonna let that dull my current excitement 315 00:12:41,480 --> 00:12:44,559 Speaker 1: of the fact that the Mets intentionally want to make 316 00:12:44,559 --> 00:12:47,040 Speaker 1: the playoffs. Yes, yeah, this is a sign that we're 317 00:12:47,040 --> 00:12:48,360 Speaker 1: trying to win, and I think for a lot of 318 00:12:48,360 --> 00:12:49,800 Speaker 1: Mets fans that's just kind of what you want to 319 00:12:49,840 --> 00:12:51,719 Speaker 1: hear at this point because you probably think there's a 320 00:12:51,760 --> 00:12:52,400 Speaker 1: group of Mets fans. 321 00:12:52,400 --> 00:12:53,760 Speaker 2: I felt like they didn't do anything to try and 322 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 2: win this off season. They just tried to exist. 323 00:12:55,840 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 1: It'd be funny if, like the one year contracts a JD. 324 00:12:58,120 --> 00:13:01,480 Speaker 1: Martinez Luis Severino give the Mets a situation where they 325 00:13:01,480 --> 00:13:03,960 Speaker 1: have to make a decision for the qualifying offer next year. 326 00:13:04,400 --> 00:13:06,360 Speaker 1: We're like, oh my god. JJ Martinez had a one 327 00:13:06,480 --> 00:13:08,800 Speaker 1: forty WRC plus and thirty seven home runs and we'll 328 00:13:08,800 --> 00:13:10,880 Speaker 1: be Severinna pitched one hundred and sixty innings with three 329 00:13:10,880 --> 00:13:12,880 Speaker 1: point five y r. And now we have to offer 330 00:13:12,920 --> 00:13:14,200 Speaker 1: it to one of these guys we do not know. 331 00:13:14,400 --> 00:13:17,120 Speaker 2: He surely got a qualifying offer before j D Martinez. 332 00:13:17,160 --> 00:13:18,880 Speaker 2: I don't know if you can give it to him again, right, No, 333 00:13:18,960 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 2: but you think he did. Check if he did, he's 334 00:13:20,760 --> 00:13:21,600 Speaker 2: seen a d agent. 335 00:13:23,280 --> 00:13:27,480 Speaker 1: I don't know. Because he did. You probably have to 336 00:13:27,480 --> 00:13:30,080 Speaker 1: go year by year through MLB dot COM's free agency 337 00:13:30,280 --> 00:13:33,160 Speaker 1: listing because they do the qualifying off for shit every year. 338 00:13:33,320 --> 00:13:36,000 Speaker 1: Just google JD taks a qualifying offer, but try, because 339 00:13:37,120 --> 00:13:39,840 Speaker 1: I don't know. Again I'll do I'll do the pessimism 340 00:13:39,880 --> 00:13:42,000 Speaker 1: shit right now while you're searching this. But there's not 341 00:13:42,480 --> 00:13:45,160 Speaker 1: no risk here because again Jaji Martinez thirty six turning 342 00:13:45,160 --> 00:13:47,560 Speaker 1: thirty seven a few months. JJ Martinez had one of 343 00:13:47,559 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: the worst with rates in baseball last year. He had 344 00:13:49,320 --> 00:13:51,120 Speaker 1: one of the worst chase rates in baseball. Last year. 345 00:13:51,120 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 1: He won the worst strikeout rates, and they not have one. 346 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,199 Speaker 1: That's what I'm saying. It's possible Dodgers did not. 347 00:13:56,160 --> 00:13:59,439 Speaker 2: Extended to him to me Astro check astros for a 348 00:13:59,480 --> 00:14:01,640 Speaker 2: couple years. No I'm looking at if it well, if 349 00:14:01,640 --> 00:14:03,559 Speaker 2: the Dodgers didn't extend it, that means that that means 350 00:14:03,600 --> 00:14:04,840 Speaker 2: it was Yeah. 351 00:14:05,160 --> 00:14:08,200 Speaker 1: That's true. You're right, but this isn't without risk. There's 352 00:14:08,240 --> 00:14:09,800 Speaker 1: definitely a world, and I'm not going to tell you 353 00:14:09,840 --> 00:14:11,800 Speaker 1: it's a likely world. I'm gonna tell you it's something possible. 354 00:14:11,920 --> 00:14:13,840 Speaker 1: The whole bottom falls out from J. J. Martinez, and 355 00:14:13,880 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: he just stinks like it's possible. I don't think it's 356 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:18,360 Speaker 1: gonna happen because he hit the ball so fucking hard 357 00:14:18,400 --> 00:14:21,760 Speaker 1: last year ninety eight percent on bower rate ninety percentile 358 00:14:22,000 --> 00:14:24,280 Speaker 1: x velocity ninety other percent sound hard hit rate lat 359 00:14:24,400 --> 00:14:26,720 Speaker 1: ninety Eight's right there, hundreds the best ninety eight really 360 00:14:26,720 --> 00:14:29,760 Speaker 1: really really really really fucking good. But really he's just 361 00:14:29,760 --> 00:14:31,080 Speaker 1: gonna put the bat and the balls can hit it 362 00:14:31,080 --> 00:14:33,160 Speaker 1: really hard. But then the other side JJ Martinez, which 363 00:14:33,160 --> 00:14:35,520 Speaker 1: I think is the way we should spend the last 364 00:14:35,520 --> 00:14:37,880 Speaker 1: few minutes here before the end, is that this has 365 00:14:37,960 --> 00:14:42,240 Speaker 1: now taken Mark Vanto's spot, basically, and this is probably 366 00:14:42,320 --> 00:14:46,360 Speaker 1: a signal from the front office to Mark Vanto's, to 367 00:14:46,480 --> 00:14:48,680 Speaker 1: the team, to the league in a way that we 368 00:14:48,680 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: didn't think he was good enough to be the designated 369 00:14:50,680 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: hitter for a playoff caliber team, and now he's somewhere 370 00:14:55,160 --> 00:14:57,640 Speaker 1: no man's land. Maybe it depends on Brett Baity right now, again, 371 00:14:57,680 --> 00:14:59,360 Speaker 1: we're talking about Brett Baby a lot. He had another 372 00:14:59,400 --> 00:15:02,120 Speaker 1: home run on Thursday. Kept he hit the ball over 373 00:15:02,160 --> 00:15:04,280 Speaker 1: one hundred five miles an hour three times. He's not 374 00:15:04,320 --> 00:15:07,000 Speaker 1: striking out, he keeps walking. Things seem to be happening 375 00:15:07,040 --> 00:15:10,160 Speaker 1: well for Brett Bailey. But if Mark Vantos isn't good 376 00:15:10,240 --> 00:15:12,080 Speaker 1: enough at defense to plat tune with Brett Bailey at 377 00:15:12,080 --> 00:15:14,280 Speaker 1: the third base, he's definitely not as good a hit 378 00:15:14,280 --> 00:15:16,880 Speaker 1: it as j D Martinez. This contract, well, it's a 379 00:15:16,880 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: really good thing. It probably does put him in no 380 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: man's land, which I don't know. 381 00:15:21,000 --> 00:15:24,000 Speaker 2: I don't know. I don't think it does because you're 382 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:26,360 Speaker 2: looking at the Mets bench right now and he is 383 00:15:26,480 --> 00:15:30,160 Speaker 2: the the second riding bat besides Tyrone Taylor. So like 384 00:15:30,240 --> 00:15:32,680 Speaker 2: on the bench right now on Fangrafts, with Jade Martinez 385 00:15:32,680 --> 00:15:35,040 Speaker 2: on the team, it's Omarin and viz Viento's Wendell Taylor, 386 00:15:35,320 --> 00:15:37,400 Speaker 2: Like who's missing from there? That would would edit like 387 00:15:37,560 --> 00:15:39,320 Speaker 2: you're not gonna put DJ Stewart and be the third 388 00:15:39,360 --> 00:15:40,200 Speaker 2: offender that. 389 00:15:40,280 --> 00:15:41,920 Speaker 1: Is the bench. But I'm saying is like now he's 390 00:15:41,920 --> 00:15:43,960 Speaker 1: been relegated to being a bench player. So if someone 391 00:15:44,800 --> 00:15:47,320 Speaker 1: get like four hundred experiences, he went from basically four 392 00:15:47,360 --> 00:15:50,360 Speaker 1: hundred play appearances like two hundred play appearances or even 393 00:15:50,480 --> 00:15:51,320 Speaker 1: a list. 394 00:15:52,800 --> 00:15:54,960 Speaker 2: Maybe Mark Vento's being around Jady Martinez could be a 395 00:15:55,000 --> 00:15:56,760 Speaker 2: good thing. A guy who's the ball hard learned something 396 00:15:56,800 --> 00:15:58,360 Speaker 2: from him. Maybe this is like a little bit too 397 00:15:58,400 --> 00:15:59,760 Speaker 2: of like you're not ready, but we want you to 398 00:15:59,800 --> 00:16:02,000 Speaker 2: fitigure it out a little bit around someone who's a 399 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:02,880 Speaker 2: perennial All Star. 400 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,480 Speaker 1: Maybe it's like to save Mark Vanto's because maybe Mark 401 00:16:05,560 --> 00:16:09,080 Speaker 1: Vento's was jaj Martinez before jj Martinez found his home, 402 00:16:09,320 --> 00:16:11,200 Speaker 1: but when he was with the Astros, before he went 403 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:13,520 Speaker 1: off to the before the Tigers, before the Astros, what 404 00:16:13,840 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: that was it? You know, the Astros before the Tigers. 405 00:16:15,960 --> 00:16:18,200 Speaker 1: Whereas like now you're going to become a good baseball player. 406 00:16:18,200 --> 00:16:20,640 Speaker 1: But or also the other part of this is maybe 407 00:16:20,680 --> 00:16:23,200 Speaker 1: this just if they think Mark Vanta is suitable enough 408 00:16:23,240 --> 00:16:25,880 Speaker 1: for third base, maybe this is a pure push Mark 409 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:28,800 Speaker 1: Vianto's firs Brett Baby, only one of you guys can survive. 410 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 1: Someone swim to the line first, and maybe maybe that 411 00:16:31,600 --> 00:16:33,280 Speaker 1: is it too, like maybe this, but now it's just 412 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,800 Speaker 1: there's there's a real clean up hitre in the room. 413 00:16:35,800 --> 00:16:37,520 Speaker 1: There's a real mid of the other bat in the room. 414 00:16:37,800 --> 00:16:40,000 Speaker 1: And now the people who we think are competing to 415 00:16:40,120 --> 00:16:43,080 Speaker 1: be players are now just competing with each other rather 416 00:16:43,120 --> 00:16:44,600 Speaker 1: than having the jobs to themselves. 417 00:16:44,600 --> 00:16:48,240 Speaker 2: Correct. Yeah, and I mean, Baby's still not gonna face 418 00:16:48,320 --> 00:16:50,800 Speaker 2: left handed pitching, so Fianto's will play against those guys too, 419 00:16:50,840 --> 00:16:53,760 Speaker 2: I'm assuming at third base, so that platoon as well. 420 00:16:54,320 --> 00:16:54,960 Speaker 2: It's a good move. 421 00:16:55,000 --> 00:16:55,600 Speaker 1: It's a good move. 422 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,600 Speaker 2: I'm excited about. This got me a little buzzed for 423 00:16:58,640 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: the season. Uh a week away now, less than a 424 00:17:01,440 --> 00:17:03,040 Speaker 2: week away, when you guys are listening to this in 425 00:17:03,040 --> 00:17:05,800 Speaker 2: the morning, hopefully on Friday morning, less than a week 426 00:17:05,800 --> 00:17:10,560 Speaker 2: away from opening day. That's got Jadie Martinez exciting, exciting 427 00:17:10,560 --> 00:17:13,240 Speaker 2: stuff in what has been a very very boring like 428 00:17:13,359 --> 00:17:15,840 Speaker 2: week and a half leading up to the opening day, 429 00:17:15,880 --> 00:17:18,520 Speaker 2: which with me and you have both joked about, We're like, 430 00:17:18,560 --> 00:17:20,560 Speaker 2: we're just so I can't watch spring training baseball anymore. 431 00:17:20,560 --> 00:17:21,720 Speaker 2: I'm so ready for real games. 432 00:17:22,640 --> 00:17:24,720 Speaker 1: Does this does this truth feel like in your heart 433 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:27,520 Speaker 1: of hearts? Like give you more of a chance you 434 00:17:27,520 --> 00:17:28,840 Speaker 1: think for the mess to make the playoffs. 435 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:31,920 Speaker 2: Oh, one hundred percent, Yeah, one hundred percent. I think 436 00:17:31,960 --> 00:17:34,200 Speaker 2: that this. I don't. I still think they're the third 437 00:17:34,200 --> 00:17:35,760 Speaker 2: best team in the National League East. I don't put 438 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:37,320 Speaker 2: themhead of the Phillies. I don't put them ahead of 439 00:17:37,359 --> 00:17:38,800 Speaker 2: the Braves, obviously. 440 00:17:38,960 --> 00:17:40,120 Speaker 1: But adding JD. 441 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,119 Speaker 2: Martinez does do something to this lineup that may not 442 00:17:44,160 --> 00:17:46,920 Speaker 2: be able to be explained yet, but I think it's 443 00:17:46,960 --> 00:17:48,960 Speaker 2: something that you could see happening during the season where 444 00:17:49,000 --> 00:17:50,760 Speaker 2: you're like, all of a sudden, this is a this 445 00:17:50,840 --> 00:17:53,320 Speaker 2: is a tough line to face. Like one through nine, 446 00:17:53,600 --> 00:17:56,080 Speaker 2: you don't really get a break outside like Harrison Bader, 447 00:17:56,080 --> 00:17:58,160 Speaker 2: who's still like even gets on base at a pretty 448 00:17:58,160 --> 00:18:01,400 Speaker 2: decent clip by time. So might not be like murderers 449 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:04,280 Speaker 2: row like the Braves or the Dodgers or even the 450 00:18:04,320 --> 00:18:06,760 Speaker 2: Padres at points, even though they have some crazy bad 451 00:18:06,760 --> 00:18:09,640 Speaker 2: players like Tyler Wade in their lineup. Like one through nine, 452 00:18:09,680 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: there are nine professional hitters in this lineup. But you 453 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:13,960 Speaker 2: can't say that about necessarily every team in baseball. 454 00:18:14,400 --> 00:18:16,399 Speaker 1: I mean, think about it. Let's go like one through nine, 455 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:23,160 Speaker 1: Nimo lindor Alonso Martinez, maybe McNeil to split up the righties. 456 00:18:23,200 --> 00:18:27,600 Speaker 1: Then you have McNeil five, Alvarez, Marte, Bathy Baither. 457 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:29,480 Speaker 2: It's a really good lineup. 458 00:18:29,640 --> 00:18:31,680 Speaker 1: It's really not that it's really not that bad at all. 459 00:18:31,680 --> 00:18:34,639 Speaker 1: It's something that again, like I don't think other pitchers 460 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:36,440 Speaker 1: will be excited to face that lineup. I think that's 461 00:18:36,440 --> 00:18:38,760 Speaker 1: a situation where I don't think it's a line that 462 00:18:38,800 --> 00:18:40,639 Speaker 1: can necessarily carry a team to the playoffs, but I 463 00:18:40,640 --> 00:18:42,119 Speaker 1: think it's a lineup that can win you a lot 464 00:18:42,160 --> 00:18:44,600 Speaker 1: of games you maybe should not have won. And now 465 00:18:44,760 --> 00:18:46,679 Speaker 1: as we're talking about this, the Braves are gonna win 466 00:18:46,720 --> 00:18:49,280 Speaker 1: the NL East whatever. The Phillies are a leg up 467 00:18:49,320 --> 00:18:51,560 Speaker 1: above most of the team's the National League. So then 468 00:18:51,600 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 1: it's the Mets versus whoever does not win the Central whatever. 469 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: Dogsha team still grabs themselves to eighty four wins, whether 470 00:18:57,520 --> 00:18:59,359 Speaker 1: it not be the Cardinals, the Cubs, the Reds, or 471 00:18:59,359 --> 00:19:02,199 Speaker 1: the Brewers. And then it's the because Dodger can win 472 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,480 Speaker 1: the West, it's the it's the Giants, it's the Padres 473 00:19:04,520 --> 00:19:07,639 Speaker 1: and his diamonbacks, and so dogfight for two spots beteen whatever. 474 00:19:07,680 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: Those basically five teams, six teams, depending on if the 475 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:12,600 Speaker 1: Marlins are okay or if multiple Central teams are over 476 00:19:12,640 --> 00:19:15,920 Speaker 1: five hundred, it's a dogfight. It dogfight. The Padres already 477 00:19:15,960 --> 00:19:17,840 Speaker 1: have one way and the Giants just signed blakesnew and 478 00:19:17,920 --> 00:19:19,560 Speaker 1: farn Z Aieed seems like he's on like a one 479 00:19:19,600 --> 00:19:21,719 Speaker 1: year thing where he has to make the playoffs. It's 480 00:19:22,200 --> 00:19:24,119 Speaker 1: it's a battle. And like the fact that the Mets 481 00:19:24,800 --> 00:19:26,840 Speaker 1: may the stand today and so we are going to 482 00:19:26,880 --> 00:19:29,040 Speaker 1: be in that fight rather than we'll be okay if 483 00:19:29,040 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: we're in that fight or not. It's fun and you 484 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,880 Speaker 1: know what else, worst case scenario if we suck ass 485 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:36,520 Speaker 1: and we're not in the fight. Fucking tray G Martinez 486 00:19:37,560 --> 00:19:39,919 Speaker 1: s J J. Martinez out for another, Marco Vargus, give 487 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,960 Speaker 1: me another, Jeremy Rodriguez. Yeah, I don't care. Like this 488 00:19:42,359 --> 00:19:44,280 Speaker 1: probably a little bit better than Tommy fam but it's 489 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 1: like it's it's a little bit more fun as well. 490 00:19:46,080 --> 00:19:47,720 Speaker 2: Yeah, definitely, no, this this is a good move all 491 00:19:47,720 --> 00:19:49,480 Speaker 2: around Mets fans. You should be excited. And I think 492 00:19:49,520 --> 00:19:52,240 Speaker 2: you if there are venue listening to this and you're like, 493 00:19:52,280 --> 00:19:54,639 Speaker 2: oh JD. Martinez, I'm so pissed about this, Like I 494 00:19:54,640 --> 00:19:56,160 Speaker 2: don't know what to tell you at this point, you've 495 00:19:56,160 --> 00:19:58,640 Speaker 2: got to be miserable, like what happened in your life 496 00:19:58,640 --> 00:19:59,840 Speaker 2: where you can't enjoy things. 497 00:20:00,000 --> 00:20:01,919 Speaker 1: It's probably the Mark Vanto stands as people who are 498 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 1: like I wanted Mark Fantos to get the he's the 499 00:20:03,640 --> 00:20:06,840 Speaker 1: only person who should be sad. But it's also just 500 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,760 Speaker 1: like I it was a year. We're like, we're gonna 501 00:20:08,760 --> 00:20:10,120 Speaker 1: give you the chance. We're gonna give you the chance, 502 00:20:10,119 --> 00:20:11,359 Speaker 1: We're gonna make see what we have in there, and 503 00:20:11,400 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: like this is probably move. We're like, they're not really 504 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,240 Speaker 1: doing that. They're saying, I want to increase our playoffs 505 00:20:15,240 --> 00:20:17,320 Speaker 1: oves right now by about five to ten percent in 506 00:20:17,720 --> 00:20:20,119 Speaker 1: Luis giving Mark Vanto's a chance. But they know a 507 00:20:20,119 --> 00:20:22,000 Speaker 1: lot more about Mark Viantos than any of us do. 508 00:20:22,320 --> 00:20:24,720 Speaker 1: They're much more aware of his shortcomings, to strength his 509 00:20:24,800 --> 00:20:27,320 Speaker 1: weaknesses than we are. And I still think he probably 510 00:20:27,359 --> 00:20:29,679 Speaker 1: can be an accepted major league baseball player. But they 511 00:20:29,680 --> 00:20:32,280 Speaker 1: were also like, I don't know, he can't play defense, 512 00:20:32,359 --> 00:20:34,240 Speaker 1: and it maybe hit the ball kind of hard sometimes, 513 00:20:34,680 --> 00:20:36,719 Speaker 1: like what's the ceiling there a two win player? Are 514 00:20:36,760 --> 00:20:39,000 Speaker 1: we saying? Are we gonna set for the whole season 515 00:20:39,040 --> 00:20:41,880 Speaker 1: aside for a two win player? Once the Viji Martinez 516 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:44,240 Speaker 1: money got low enough, They're like, what's what's the downside 517 00:20:44,240 --> 00:20:45,640 Speaker 1: of this? And there really is not much of One 518 00:20:45,640 --> 00:20:47,440 Speaker 1: great move by the Mets, a great move by David Searns. 519 00:20:47,440 --> 00:20:49,480 Speaker 1: Absolutely love it, guys. 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