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Speaker 3: You see what's up?

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Speaker 4: What up?

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Speaker 1: Like the rock something?

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Speaker 2: I'm just comfortable, man, okay about Welcome to the show.

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Speaker 2: Ramp safety Cam, curl Cam. How you doing man?

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Speaker 4: I'm doing good, and I appreciate you all for having.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate you coming on the bye week. You guys are

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Speaker 2: coming off the bye week. So what did cam do

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Speaker 2: in this bye week?

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Speaker 5: So what? So?

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Speaker 1: So take us through your bye week.

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Speaker 2: You had the whole week off, so you you got

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Speaker 2: out of town boom.

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Speaker 4: No, I ain't even leave it. I ain't gonna lie.

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Speaker 4: I stayed here.

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Speaker 6: I was tired, okay, because we did all that traveling

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Speaker 6: like Baltimore that whole week. Yeah, when we traveled to

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Speaker 6: London and play like within like that certain amount of time.

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Speaker 6: So I was really all right from all the travel

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Speaker 6: and we ain't get I ain't get home till like Monday,

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Speaker 6: two thirty in the morning, like I slipped all Monday Tuesday,

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Speaker 6: I went to facility a few days. You know what

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Speaker 6: I'm saying. But I just spent time with the family.

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Speaker 6: Really just trying to let my body rest.

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Speaker 7: Okay, you ain't doing nothing outside of that though, like

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Speaker 7: to get away, just to get away from the game

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Speaker 7: of football.

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Speaker 6: I mean yeah, like you know, I take the kids

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Speaker 6: to the park and stuff like, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: Like just a little stuff.

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Speaker 4: I ain't do nothing, crazy, crazy, yeah.

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Speaker 2: I Like, you guys are number one, the first, do

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Speaker 2: your first the red zone, defensive touchdowns allowed, thirty points

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Speaker 2: allowed eighth and takeaways. What do you think the biggest

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Speaker 2: reason you guys are having such success on the defensive

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Speaker 6: I mean, I feel like the system we got in

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Speaker 6: the scheme we got, it's built around our players, and

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Speaker 6: what we were able to do is like it's built

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Speaker 6: for our skill set.

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Speaker 4: And you know, we've been in this system.

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Speaker 6: Stur second, you're going on in the system, so we

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Speaker 6: all comfortable with each other, especially in the secondary, like

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Speaker 6: this is the first place, like the first time. I mean,

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Speaker 6: let's bring back a whole like secondary unit. You know

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying, You know, yeah, usually every year the

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Speaker 6: room changes, you know what I'm saying. But you know,

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Speaker 6: since we did that, that just helps us play the

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Speaker 6: faster because we more comfortable each other and you know,

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Speaker 6: know how each other play.

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Speaker 7: Yeah, and now that you are in your second year

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Speaker 7: other's defense, how comfortable are you?

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Speaker 5: You know?

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Speaker 6: I mean I'm real comfortable, Like I'm real comfortable how

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Speaker 6: sulocus game. And I'm real comfortable with with all my teammates,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And I just like flying

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Speaker 6: around those guys like we have to make him plays,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. You know, trying to keep

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Speaker 7: Hey, does your coach your defensive courd there do? Does

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Speaker 7: he allow you the freedom to do things off script

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Speaker 7: that really really isn't part of X and those But

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Speaker 7: because you're the one out there on the field and

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Speaker 7: can you go off script and do stuff based on

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Speaker 7: what you've seen on film?

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Speaker 6: I mean, you know, as long as you make the place,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, it ain't gonna be too mad.

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Speaker 4: But now they do emphasize on us not being robots.

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Speaker 6: Though you know what I'm saying, they don't want to

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Speaker 6: I'm saying. So he listened. He let's just play how

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Speaker 6: we play. You know what I'm saying. We're gonna always

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Speaker 6: go within the scheme, you know, in the play call.

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Speaker 6: But you know, he lets us go out there and

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Speaker 2: You're known for your physical style of play. How did

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Speaker 2: you get the How do you get the nickname? Cam Bam?

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Speaker 8: Uh?

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Speaker 6: I got that name? Like in high school it was

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Speaker 6: a I ain't gonna lie, you know. The females used

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Speaker 6: to call me that. You know what I'm saying. But yeah, no,

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Speaker 6: you know, you know I bring that boom on the

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Speaker 4: You know rhymes, you know, but like, yeah, it's just

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Speaker 4: it's just a little nickname.

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Speaker 1: Hey, let me let me. I got a question for you.

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Speaker 7: Since they call you cam Bam and you and you

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Speaker 7: know him for you know, coming down here coming to

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Speaker 7: the party, you think you think you you would have

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Speaker 7: been able to hit me if you were playing, Like

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Speaker 7: if I just happened to be in this area, you

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Speaker 7: think you would hit me?

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Speaker 4: Yeah? Like, hey, hold on you laughing? You think like

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Speaker 4: you a little thing man up to twenty.

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Speaker 1: What you talk about then?

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Speaker 6: What what you're winning back? Then again, I was two thirty,

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Speaker 6: all right, all you got it. If you two thirty,

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Speaker 6: then you got it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I would have ran through you. But don't, man,

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Speaker 1: don't do that.

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Speaker 9: Don't do that.

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Speaker 5: Don't do that.

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Speaker 4: With you.

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Speaker 2: What was some of the factors what was so appealing

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Speaker 2: for you with signing with the Rams?

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Speaker 6: Well, honestly, like off the bat, just you know, Sean

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Speaker 6: y Vay, you know what I'm saying, just even before

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Speaker 6: I got here, just seeing him from Afar and you know,

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Speaker 6: hearing things about him and watching his interviews and stuff

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Speaker 6: like that's just off the bat, like a guy you

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Speaker 6: want to play football for. You know, It's just the

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Speaker 6: it was a winning colture here. You know, they just

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Speaker 6: won the Super Bowl not too long ago, you know

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Speaker 6: what I'm saying. You know, they always get into the playoffs,

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Speaker 6: you know, so it was just it felt like the

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: It's a bunch of young, hungry guys on the on

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Speaker 6: I feel like I fit right in.

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Speaker 2: You came in the league kind of like I came

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Speaker 2: in the league. I was self around draft pick. I

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Speaker 2: was one ninety two ye or self around draft pick.

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Speaker 2: And I never felt like I made it. I feel

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Speaker 2: and reprove myself that, like I got to give him

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Speaker 2: I got to give him.

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Speaker 1: One reason to keep me. Just one, man.

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Speaker 2: You see that rock shop ran man, you see that

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Speaker 2: catch that he made, You see how he picked up

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Speaker 2: that blitz, Just one I needed one reason for him

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Speaker 2: to say, yeah, we got to keep him another day.

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Speaker 2: What was your mindset coming in? You got a seventh

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Speaker 2: around draft pick, but from the commanders, what was your mindset?

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Speaker 2: Because you know, normally seventh round picks don't camp bodies.

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Speaker 2: They just they just, hey, they need somebody to fill

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Speaker 2: out the roster. They didn't really tried, they didn't really

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Speaker 2: try to give it. No look, but you got to

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Speaker 2: see me because I'm gonna make you look no.

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Speaker 6: In fact, na my mindset. I mean I knew getting

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Speaker 6: try to make this team, you know, coming in because

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Speaker 6: I was the only rookie dB they had picked up

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Speaker 6: the whole like draft process, you know, they ain't picking

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Speaker 6: going against vets. I'm competing against vets, you know what

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Speaker 6: all my vets there back then at twenty twenty season,

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Speaker 6: like they really brought me in, you know what I'm saying,

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Speaker 6: and showed me the way, and I just sat back

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Speaker 6: washing them and learned and you know, started making plays.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, you look being in too different.

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Speaker 2: Look Washington, LA, How similar or how different are the

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Speaker 2: defensive systems that where you were in DC compared to

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Speaker 2: what you are in right now in LA.

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Speaker 4: I feel like it's a difference.

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Speaker 6: I feel like in Washington it was more of like

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Speaker 6: you know, like a like a straightforward this is what

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Speaker 4: You know what I'm saying, We're not really.

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Speaker 6: We wasn't really doing no disguising Like you know, man, you.

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Speaker 1: Just going out there. You ain't got no ski mask,

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Speaker 1: you ain't got nothing.

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Speaker 6: You ain't got no You're just going like That's how

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Speaker 6: there real is though, Like you know, like against Jack,

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Speaker 6: you're gonna put your position. You gotta make the play,

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Speaker 6: you know, that's all that matters. And I feel like

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Speaker 6: this Rams defense, it's it's a it's a way more

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Speaker 6: of different coverages, Like it's subages that I'm I'm learning

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Speaker 6: about this year. I ain't even know it was coverage,

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Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So it's a real complex

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Speaker 6: defense and it fits us because we got real smart

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Speaker 4: That can think on the fly. You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 6: We communicate very well, like this defense, communication is key

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Speaker 1: Yeah.

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Speaker 7: And it's funny when you talk about defenses being very

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Speaker 7: complex and you're able to do more with the defense

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Speaker 7: when you had the right players with the right skill

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Speaker 7: set and can communicate. It brings me back to that

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Speaker 7: two thousand Ravens, that two thousand, two thousand Steelers defense.

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Speaker 7: But KC they used to run defenses that weren't even

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Speaker 7: on film. They weren't on film, and people were always

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Speaker 7: out of position, but they were so good with a

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Speaker 7: great understanding of being able to communicate, and when the

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Speaker 7: ball snaps, they'll fly back through exactly where they're supposed

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Speaker 3: But it was so confusing for me as an offensive player.

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Speaker 7: So the fact that you guys are able to do that,

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Speaker 7: to run complex stuff that you really don't see on film.

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Speaker 1: You really don't know.

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Speaker 7: What's coming, and keep an offense thinking all the time,

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Speaker 7: especially at the snap and after the snap of the ball,

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Speaker 7: you're always having an advantage, always have an advantage defensively for sure.

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Speaker 1: Man, Cam, I'm looking at you. Guys are schedules.

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Speaker 2: You got the Saints, Niners, Seahawks, Bucks, Panthers, Cars, Lions, Seahawks, Falcons, Cardinals. Damn,

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Speaker 2: y'all got a lot of birds up in there, the Seahawks,

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Speaker 2: the Cardinals, the Seahawks, the Falcons, the Cardinals. Y'all were

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Speaker 2: trying to put so many birds out their misery.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, yeah, we're gonna do that for something, man, that's

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Speaker 4: the many.

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Speaker 7: Speaking of man, what has it been like man to

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Speaker 7: watch Pook and the cool Man and Davonte Adams Man

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Speaker 7: Davante Still, I know, you know, we we talked about

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Speaker 6: But it's crazy, man, just starting off like at practice,

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Speaker 4: It makes us a.

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Speaker 2: And it's hard to like why follow the quarterback eyes

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Speaker 2: You're like, coach, why you go there? Because he was

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Speaker 6: Yes, he doing that to some practice too. It's not

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Speaker 2: It too hey when we saw it on the tape

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Speaker 1: Him, the linebacker's gonna pick it.

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Speaker 2: But because he was looking over here and he threw it,

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Speaker 3: Like that going right off his head hole.

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Speaker 4: That's crazy. We see that every day.

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Speaker 3: Man, it's crazy to what you know, Coach Yard still

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Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, that was my coach at Oregon State.

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Speaker 4: Really yeah. Yard is a cool dude.

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Speaker 5: Man, my guy. Man, that's my guy.

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Speaker 2: Well, Cam, thanks for joining us tonight, man, best of luck,

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Speaker 2: continued success, stay healthy, and hey, you guys got a

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Speaker 2: to hey, time to go finish the task.

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Speaker 4: Sir, already. I appreciate you all for having.

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Speaker 5: Man, thanks for coming on.

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Speaker 2: Appreciate it. Enjoy the rest of the evening to all right,

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Speaker 2: we got our special guests joining us. He just sided

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Speaker 2: C l A herreets ladies, gentlemen, mar Sades Lewis, what's up, brother.

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Speaker 1: I'm good man. How you doing, bro?

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Speaker 10: I'm doing well, man. Just everything happened so fast. It

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Speaker 5: I come back from.

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Speaker 10: So I called him back and literally right there, and

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Speaker 10: this was Monday, he was like, yo, can you fly

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Speaker 10: I've never been in this situation before, like I've always

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Speaker 7: Man.

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Speaker 5: So it's it's definitely a different experience.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, you tell them, hell, yeah you fly, you buy

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Speaker 2: I fly? Come on now, yeah you buy I fly?

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Speaker 5: No doubt?

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Speaker 7: Hey mer say these was it ever the thought of

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Speaker 7: want to squeeze in as many years as you can, obviously,

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Speaker 7: But did you ever think you get to your twenty?

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Speaker 10: I thought, you know, obviously coming out of East LA

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Speaker 10: Situation where I'm not sure you're familiar with John Embry.

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Speaker 10: He was my tight end coach at he was in

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Speaker 10: so you know Mbo. You know his uh, his energy

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Speaker 10: You know he coached Tolding, his dollars George Kettle for

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Speaker 10: So as far as like that, his resume is dipped

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Speaker 5: He said, I came to Ucla to coach.

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Speaker 10: You gave me a whole rundown of Like, my family

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Speaker 10: We know that your athlete, who.

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Speaker 10: You want to play a long time in the league,

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Speaker 10: That's something that I always have with me, and it's

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Speaker 10: It's just been it's been smooth, man. I just take

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Speaker 2: You you you mentioned Mercedes, bro that's still a long

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Speaker 2: You in Chicago, bro side, you're having to go and

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Speaker 10: they know that I that I'm about, and I signed

441
00:19:23,200 --> 00:19:26,600
Speaker 10: a deal, didn't look back, got through seventeen still still

442
00:19:26,640 --> 00:19:30,080
Speaker 10: felt really good. Ay Rian ends up leaving, Davonte ends

443
00:19:30,160 --> 00:19:34,760
Speaker 10: up leaving, cop retires. Dave Batiari les I'm like, okay,

444
00:19:34,960 --> 00:19:36,639
Speaker 10: it's only me here. I know it's about to be

445
00:19:36,680 --> 00:19:38,719
Speaker 10: my time to go too. So they hit me up

446
00:19:38,800 --> 00:19:40,480
Speaker 10: like hey, Sadi's like.

447
00:19:40,520 --> 00:19:42,960
Speaker 5: You know, we're kind of changing the regime, like you know,

448
00:19:43,200 --> 00:19:43,840
Speaker 5: you know the.

449
00:19:45,840 --> 00:19:47,960
Speaker 10: So I'm like all right, like no doubt whatever, like

450
00:19:48,000 --> 00:19:50,040
Speaker 10: you know, I'll figure it out. And then not too

451
00:19:50,040 --> 00:19:53,919
Speaker 10: long after that, I would say, Dune Chicago hit me up.

452
00:19:54,240 --> 00:19:55,440
Speaker 5: And then we had had.

453
00:19:55,280 --> 00:19:58,760
Speaker 10: Luke Getsi, who was the quarterback coach with Green Bay

454
00:19:59,000 --> 00:20:01,760
Speaker 10: and was familiar with you know, how to use me

455
00:20:01,800 --> 00:20:03,840
Speaker 10: as far as the play you know plays and what

456
00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:07,440
Speaker 10: I'm good at, and brought me to Chicago thinking that

457
00:20:07,480 --> 00:20:10,600
Speaker 10: was gonna be a one year deal. Played that out,

458
00:20:11,160 --> 00:20:13,400
Speaker 10: still played about forty three percent of the plays at

459
00:20:13,400 --> 00:20:16,600
Speaker 10: thirty nine years old, so I'm still rolling. Then the

460
00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,439
Speaker 10: next year bring me back. So that's two years and

461
00:20:19,480 --> 00:20:21,280
Speaker 10: then here we are now. It was just like a

462
00:20:22,000 --> 00:20:23,720
Speaker 10: once I got eighteen, I was like, I have to

463
00:20:23,760 --> 00:20:25,720
Speaker 10: get twenty.

464
00:20:24,680 --> 00:20:28,159
Speaker 1: Yeah, I gotta get. I got it.

465
00:20:28,320 --> 00:20:31,640
Speaker 2: I can't end, I got to get can't like this

466
00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:35,400
Speaker 2: is I literally it was like the capstone, Like twenty.

467
00:20:35,280 --> 00:20:37,600
Speaker 5: Is like when I wake up for that number.

468
00:20:38,359 --> 00:20:41,359
Speaker 2: Ain't a whole lot of players that's ever played twenty season.

469
00:20:41,640 --> 00:20:44,360
Speaker 2: You get, you get a Jacket Slater, and you get

470
00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:47,439
Speaker 2: a Tom Brady and you get a handful of guys.

471
00:20:47,680 --> 00:20:50,320
Speaker 1: But maybe I don't think it's twenty guys.

472
00:20:50,320 --> 00:20:55,240
Speaker 2: Maybe maybe it's twenty guys, twenty five album people men

473
00:20:55,280 --> 00:20:56,640
Speaker 2: that ever played this game.

474
00:20:56,920 --> 00:21:00,000
Speaker 1: Darryl Green, Like, it ain't a whole lot of guys.

475
00:21:00,240 --> 00:21:02,520
Speaker 2: So let me ask you, this is this it you

476
00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,040
Speaker 2: travel twenty one or you've done it twenty You stopping

477
00:21:05,080 --> 00:21:08,280
Speaker 2: on a nice, a nice round even number.

478
00:21:09,280 --> 00:21:14,800
Speaker 10: Okay, so so this will be the first time I've

479
00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:17,120
Speaker 10: ever said this, because I haven't.

480
00:21:17,200 --> 00:21:19,200
Speaker 5: But this is it.

481
00:21:19,760 --> 00:21:23,320
Speaker 10: Like if I said that last year, Like if I

482
00:21:23,359 --> 00:21:25,919
Speaker 10: said that after nineteen, I wouldn't have felt like I

483
00:21:26,000 --> 00:21:28,320
Speaker 10: did in these months that I was not playing right

484
00:21:28,359 --> 00:21:31,560
Speaker 10: Like bro I would wake up sometime like the season started.

485
00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,199
Speaker 10: It was a few teams hit my Asian up, but

486
00:21:34,240 --> 00:21:36,800
Speaker 10: it was like just is he still working out? Does

487
00:21:36,800 --> 00:21:38,879
Speaker 10: he still want to play? Just a bunch of like fluff.

488
00:21:38,880 --> 00:21:43,000
Speaker 10: It wasn't nothing serious. So I told my agent, Buzz Cook.

489
00:21:43,000 --> 00:21:46,320
Speaker 10: I told him, I said, look, if it's not serious, like,

490
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:48,280
Speaker 10: don't hit me up, because it's messing with my head.

491
00:21:48,320 --> 00:21:51,040
Speaker 10: Like some days, some days I wake up sharp and

492
00:21:51,119 --> 00:21:54,280
Speaker 10: be like, right, I feel good, and in some days

493
00:21:54,280 --> 00:21:55,439
Speaker 10: I wake up and I feel like I'm in a

494
00:21:55,520 --> 00:21:59,800
Speaker 10: nightmare because I'm waking up. I'm watching ball there and

495
00:21:59,800 --> 00:22:01,920
Speaker 10: I'm in my mind, I'm like, there's not sixty four

496
00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:03,720
Speaker 10: tight ends better than me in this league, and I

497
00:22:03,800 --> 00:22:07,600
Speaker 10: know I could be out there helping somebody with body. Yeah,

498
00:22:07,640 --> 00:22:10,119
Speaker 10: and like especially for what I do at this point

499
00:22:10,160 --> 00:22:12,920
Speaker 10: in my career, like I'm the best at this right,

500
00:22:13,000 --> 00:22:16,919
Speaker 10: like just point of contact setting, the edge, rock setting

501
00:22:16,960 --> 00:22:18,720
Speaker 10: and play pass like you know how it is, like

502
00:22:18,720 --> 00:22:22,760
Speaker 10: it's yeah, oh yeah, yeah, I take block up and

503
00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:23,560
Speaker 10: we're stupid.

504
00:22:23,800 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 2: Whatever you want, whatever you want to do. Hey, if

505
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:27,920
Speaker 2: y'all want to put let me be killing it. I

506
00:22:28,000 --> 00:22:29,080
Speaker 2: get on that island.

507
00:22:30,880 --> 00:22:34,680
Speaker 5: And so hey, hey, and that's kind of where I'm at.

508
00:22:34,760 --> 00:22:39,639
Speaker 10: And you know, today Sean Payton pulled me aside and

509
00:22:39,760 --> 00:22:42,840
Speaker 10: was like, I've been watching you for the last eight years,

510
00:22:42,840 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 10: Like even when I was in Green Bay, the Saints

511
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,840
Speaker 10: kept trying to get me when he was with the Saints.

512
00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:48,480
Speaker 10: He's like, I just want you to know that I've

513
00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:50,439
Speaker 10: been watching this for the last eight years. I know

514
00:22:50,480 --> 00:22:53,800
Speaker 10: what you're about. Everybody talks about how you are as

515
00:22:53,840 --> 00:22:56,120
Speaker 10: a person, like I get it, but you're not staying

516
00:22:56,119 --> 00:22:57,679
Speaker 10: in this league for as long as you have just

517
00:22:57,720 --> 00:23:01,280
Speaker 10: for being a great leader. You've been dominant. We need

518
00:23:01,320 --> 00:23:04,479
Speaker 10: somebody like you. And so they made me feel valued.

519
00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:10,000
Speaker 10: They made me feel welcome and to be honest with

520
00:23:10,080 --> 00:23:12,639
Speaker 10: you guys, like today was the first time I felt

521
00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:19,680
Speaker 10: like like nervous because it was like, I'm forty one,

522
00:23:20,160 --> 00:23:25,520
Speaker 10: I didn't do camp, no OTAs, what's my reaction time?

523
00:23:25,560 --> 00:23:29,240
Speaker 10: Like regardless if I'm working out right, like you play

524
00:23:29,320 --> 00:23:35,720
Speaker 10: football exactly exactly. And I really questioned myself, like the

525
00:23:35,800 --> 00:23:38,800
Speaker 10: night before, going inside my contract and then going to practice,

526
00:23:38,800 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 10: like I'm in there and I'm like, you know, he's

527
00:23:41,240 --> 00:23:42,920
Speaker 10: they give it, like, you know, they give me the playbook,

528
00:23:42,960 --> 00:23:43,960
Speaker 10: all of that I'm looking.

529
00:23:43,680 --> 00:23:45,080
Speaker 5: Through and I'm like, Okay.

530
00:23:46,160 --> 00:23:48,800
Speaker 10: Every hour they went by today I felt more and

531
00:23:48,840 --> 00:23:52,520
Speaker 10: more confident. Like I get in there and it's just

532
00:23:52,560 --> 00:23:55,720
Speaker 10: like all my teammates are like, you know, you know,

533
00:23:55,960 --> 00:23:58,280
Speaker 10: just loving me up, bro, and I'm just like, damn,

534
00:23:58,320 --> 00:24:01,040
Speaker 10: like this is where I was supposed to be, you

535
00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:04,439
Speaker 10: know it? And it feels good. Once I got on

536
00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,760
Speaker 10: the field, Bro, it was just like riding the bike.

537
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:10,439
Speaker 10: So I'm I'm grateful for the moment. I've always been

538
00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:15,760
Speaker 10: in gratitude. I lead with just gratitude, man or not. Yeah,

539
00:24:16,000 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 10: it's special, bro, Joe.

540
00:24:18,040 --> 00:24:21,160
Speaker 8: You had a question. Yeah, that's I wanted to say.

541
00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,359
Speaker 8: First all I'm gonna sayes Man, congrats on twenty years. Bro,

542
00:24:24,880 --> 00:24:29,359
Speaker 8: that's a long time, especially in the NFL. What what's

543
00:24:29,400 --> 00:24:32,399
Speaker 8: the biggest difference. What would you say the biggest difference

544
00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:35,240
Speaker 8: is from like year one to like year twenty now,

545
00:24:37,280 --> 00:24:41,480
Speaker 8: whether it be mindset, training, obviously. You know what would

546
00:24:41,480 --> 00:24:42,560
Speaker 8: probably be the biggest difference.

547
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 10: The biggest difference for me, BRO is, uh, the time

548
00:24:47,280 --> 00:24:51,160
Speaker 10: I had to form a routine is when I first

549
00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,280
Speaker 10: got into the league. Right like those first three years,

550
00:24:53,280 --> 00:24:55,960
Speaker 10: you're trying to figure out who you are, right Like

551
00:24:56,080 --> 00:24:59,399
Speaker 10: you you know you're athletic, you know that, Like you

552
00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:01,520
Speaker 10: can do some things, but you don't know if you

553
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 10: can consistently get it done at that level, right you

554
00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:09,400
Speaker 10: playing against guys that got families that are not having it.

555
00:25:09,440 --> 00:25:13,639
Speaker 10: And when I got to Jacksonville, Dogs in Jacksonville, like

556
00:25:14,920 --> 00:25:17,480
Speaker 10: I was raised with the Wolves in Jacksonville, you know.

557
00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:17,800
Speaker 5: What I mean.

558
00:25:18,000 --> 00:25:24,520
Speaker 10: So I feel like being in that environment may molded

559
00:25:24,520 --> 00:25:28,600
Speaker 10: me into who I am today. And I would say

560
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,680
Speaker 10: after year three, I started to form this routine. How

561
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:35,080
Speaker 10: like my in season workout recovery does not change for

562
00:25:35,160 --> 00:25:38,359
Speaker 10: my out of season workout and recovery. And mind you,

563
00:25:38,520 --> 00:25:40,440
Speaker 10: I said out of season or not off season. I

564
00:25:40,440 --> 00:25:44,120
Speaker 10: don't take it off right like I it's maybe two

565
00:25:44,119 --> 00:25:46,440
Speaker 10: and a half weeks of just letting my body heal

566
00:25:46,600 --> 00:25:50,359
Speaker 10: and that means infrared and kotep. I'm still doing something

567
00:25:50,359 --> 00:25:51,240
Speaker 10: to keep the blood flow.

568
00:25:51,560 --> 00:25:51,679
Speaker 5: Right.

569
00:25:52,400 --> 00:25:54,560
Speaker 10: Yeah, once it gets close to February, like right after

570
00:25:54,600 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 10: Super Bowl. I've been trying to mixed martial arts now

571
00:25:56,920 --> 00:26:00,800
Speaker 10: for fifteen years. So whether it's jiu jitsu, muy ti, wrestling, judo,

572
00:26:00,920 --> 00:26:03,919
Speaker 10: whatever it is, I would do that from February all

573
00:26:03,920 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 10: the way to May. I do not step on the

574
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:09,120
Speaker 10: field until the end of May, going into July. Once

575
00:26:09,160 --> 00:26:10,960
Speaker 10: I hit the field in June, I get on the

576
00:26:10,960 --> 00:26:14,000
Speaker 10: grass straight ahead running and then we do like four

577
00:26:14,040 --> 00:26:17,879
Speaker 10: hundred breakdowns on the track and then that's really about it.

578
00:26:17,920 --> 00:26:19,880
Speaker 10: I'll do like cone stuff, but not too many routes.

579
00:26:19,920 --> 00:26:21,520
Speaker 10: Even in my prime when I was catching a ball,

580
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,639
Speaker 10: it wasn't a lot of routes and like putting that

581
00:26:23,680 --> 00:26:26,000
Speaker 10: pressure on my knees and then when I would get

582
00:26:26,040 --> 00:26:28,400
Speaker 10: to camp, I would be peeking at the perfect time,

583
00:26:28,720 --> 00:26:33,000
Speaker 10: and like, I really just feel like that regiment has

584
00:26:33,600 --> 00:26:36,760
Speaker 10: paid me back right now because I still have my legs.

585
00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:40,320
Speaker 10: I went to Jacksonville where we would run first play

586
00:26:40,320 --> 00:26:43,399
Speaker 10: action pass right like ye, you know, Jimmy Smith was

587
00:26:43,400 --> 00:26:46,000
Speaker 10: getting out of there. Keenda McCardell had just got out

588
00:26:46,000 --> 00:26:48,800
Speaker 10: of there. It was like Freddie t, Maurice Drew. Obviously,

589
00:26:49,080 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 10: we had a Kyle Brady at tight end. I was

590
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:53,639
Speaker 10: backing him up as a rookie and then I ended

591
00:26:53,680 --> 00:26:59,920
Speaker 10: up starting secondary guy exactly, And it was like we

592
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:02,640
Speaker 10: ran the ball, bro for at least four or five

593
00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:04,480
Speaker 10: years straight, and I was still getting my numbers. You know,

594
00:27:04,520 --> 00:27:06,520
Speaker 10: I went all pro my fifth year, Pro Bowl, all

595
00:27:06,520 --> 00:27:09,600
Speaker 10: of that, but not like I should have, right, and

596
00:27:10,720 --> 00:27:12,639
Speaker 10: I would always be like, damn man, like was I

597
00:27:12,640 --> 00:27:14,840
Speaker 10: supposed to get drafted here? Like I came out of

598
00:27:14,880 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 10: East La Mac your ward winner, all the records, doing.

599
00:27:17,840 --> 00:27:20,479
Speaker 5: My thing, like I guess at Jacksonville, I'm like, Bro,

600
00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,800
Speaker 5: I'm blocking isold power I'm doing, you know what I mean?

601
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,760
Speaker 10: Like I'm not really being used, like and they drafted

602
00:27:26,760 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 10: me in the first round.

603
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:28,119
Speaker 5: So I didn't get it.

604
00:27:28,200 --> 00:27:30,000
Speaker 1: That's the best thing to happen for you. Marsides.

605
00:27:30,119 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 2: You didn't know it because had you brought up those

606
00:27:32,640 --> 00:27:34,919
Speaker 2: numbers early and now all of a sudden you're in

607
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:37,560
Speaker 2: your ten year level, you're twelve, and they're not the

608
00:27:37,600 --> 00:27:39,400
Speaker 2: same as they were year three or four.

609
00:27:39,720 --> 00:27:41,840
Speaker 1: Not all of a sudden they gonna say you losing it.

610
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:45,480
Speaker 2: But because you didn't have eighty ninety catches in the beginning,

611
00:27:45,720 --> 00:27:49,040
Speaker 2: they were like, he's same yeap, and what we're asking

612
00:27:49,119 --> 00:27:52,600
Speaker 2: him to do hasn't changed for what he's been asked

613
00:27:52,640 --> 00:27:56,480
Speaker 2: to do the previous team, the previous twelve, the previous fifteen.

614
00:27:56,760 --> 00:27:58,000
Speaker 1: We looked it up, Marcedes.

615
00:27:58,320 --> 00:28:03,720
Speaker 2: They've only been one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven, twelve,

616
00:28:03,880 --> 00:28:07,880
Speaker 2: thirteen players to play at least twenty years or more.

617
00:28:08,200 --> 00:28:13,199
Speaker 2: Most of them wow as you could imagine, are kickersub.

618
00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:14,680
Speaker 1: George Blanda play twenty six seasons.

619
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:16,880
Speaker 2: He was a quarterback, but his last couple of years

620
00:28:16,920 --> 00:28:20,480
Speaker 2: he was mainlank kicker Morten Anderson twenty five kicker Adam

621
00:28:20,520 --> 00:28:25,280
Speaker 2: Military twenty four, kicker Tom Brady twenty three, quarterback John

622
00:28:25,359 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 2: Carney twenty three kicker Gary Anderson, kicker Jeff Fiegels twenty one,

623
00:28:30,240 --> 00:28:33,719
Speaker 2: punter Earl Morrow played twenty one as a quarterback Jackets

624
00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:38,520
Speaker 2: later offensive lineman Daryl Green, quarnerback Vinnit Testa Verde quarterback,

625
00:28:38,680 --> 00:28:45,240
Speaker 2: Brett Farr, quarterback, Jason Hanson kicker and now Marcedes Lewis

626
00:28:45,760 --> 00:28:48,920
Speaker 2: is on this list of guys that have played at

627
00:28:49,080 --> 00:28:53,960
Speaker 2: least twenty seasons of more. And you played a position now, Jackie,

628
00:28:54,200 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 2: I would say Jackie might have had because Jackiet had

629
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,480
Speaker 2: to bang every play for twenty no doubt, for twenty years.

630
00:29:00,240 --> 00:29:01,560
Speaker 1: You got to run. You got to run. You got

631
00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: to run rats.

632
00:29:04,480 --> 00:29:08,960
Speaker 2: Twenty years. It's still crazy. Let me ask you this,

633
00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:12,720
Speaker 2: Are you mad, Mercedes? No, because I was gonna say,

634
00:29:12,800 --> 00:29:15,120
Speaker 2: that's an awful long time to ask somebody like, Hey,

635
00:29:15,160 --> 00:29:17,320
Speaker 2: I need you to make these sacrifices for twinty I

636
00:29:17,440 --> 00:29:19,280
Speaker 2: need you to pick up the kids. I need you

637
00:29:19,400 --> 00:29:21,000
Speaker 2: to be the pta, I need you to be the

638
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:24,080
Speaker 2: recitals in the football game and all this and all

639
00:29:24,160 --> 00:29:28,440
Speaker 2: that other stuff. So you understand the sacrifices that you make.

640
00:29:28,800 --> 00:29:31,760
Speaker 2: But when you have a partner, you're also asking them

641
00:29:31,840 --> 00:29:33,440
Speaker 2: to make set sacrifices.

642
00:29:35,160 --> 00:29:38,680
Speaker 3: Yeah, hey, Mercedes, what comber sports.

643
00:29:38,440 --> 00:29:38,920
Speaker 1: You do again?

644
00:29:39,880 --> 00:29:43,400
Speaker 5: More time? Just a little bit of judo, some wrestling.

645
00:29:43,440 --> 00:29:44,440
Speaker 5: I don't really I think.

646
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:47,240
Speaker 1: That's you right, Oh Joe you oh you already.

647
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:51,320
Speaker 3: You know, hold on, hold on, hold on man. You

648
00:29:51,360 --> 00:29:52,560
Speaker 3: know I got a black belt.

649
00:29:52,320 --> 00:29:54,120
Speaker 1: And all that, and you got a round bisiness the

650
00:29:54,160 --> 00:29:56,760
Speaker 1: whole you're paying up. Marseides. I think you ay, that's

651
00:29:56,760 --> 00:29:58,720
Speaker 1: what we want right here, Marceides, And oh.

652
00:29:58,680 --> 00:30:04,280
Speaker 3: Jo hey, were you not? I gotta I got I

653
00:30:04,280 --> 00:30:05,640
Speaker 3: got a black belt. I got a black belt in

654
00:30:05,760 --> 00:30:06,120
Speaker 3: jiu JITs.

655
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:12,600
Speaker 1: Yeah pretty quick, bro, what yeah, you're at it?

656
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Speaker 7: Hey, let me tell you something I say when I'm

657
00:30:14,560 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 7: When I'm done with James Harrison, I beat his ass.

658
00:30:16,800 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: I mean you, I'm you you welcome. We I mean

659
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:25,240
Speaker 1: whatever you do, Joe. Somebody like say he's thick six

660
00:30:25,560 --> 00:30:27,360
Speaker 1: two sixty five to seventy.

661
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Speaker 3: Hey, listen to me, Mercedes, I'm six four two thirty man?

662
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Speaker 1: What you what you he do that? Oh Joe?

663
00:30:34,400 --> 00:30:37,080
Speaker 2: He you not got a worry about his conditioning. He fight,

664
00:30:37,280 --> 00:30:40,880
Speaker 2: he craves like that, so you know his condemned is

665
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:41,480
Speaker 2: through the room.

666
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 1: Hold on, time out, time out? Man, Stop playing with

667
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,160
Speaker 1: me on sweet Jesus man, I trained.

668
00:30:46,600 --> 00:30:49,120
Speaker 5: It's just it's just different. It's just different, though, Joe.

669
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Speaker 10: It's like if we were just straight boxing potentially, like

670
00:30:55,040 --> 00:30:56,640
Speaker 10: you may be at a land a couple of shots,

671
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Speaker 10: but I'll still fight behind my.

672
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Speaker 5: Jab and a week listen, hold I land. You see

673
00:31:04,840 --> 00:31:06,200
Speaker 5: you seem I am right now?

674
00:31:08,880 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 2: How you gonna get Let me ask you a question, Ojo,

675
00:31:12,080 --> 00:31:14,160
Speaker 2: how you're gonna get up? You don't you never fought

676
00:31:14,240 --> 00:31:15,880
Speaker 2: from your back. You don't know how to get up.

677
00:31:16,800 --> 00:31:18,800
Speaker 3: Who you talking about man, I can fight off my

678
00:31:18,880 --> 00:31:19,920
Speaker 3: back foot front floor.

679
00:31:20,080 --> 00:31:23,240
Speaker 1: I said, your back, not your bag, your back, your back.

680
00:31:23,920 --> 00:31:25,200
Speaker 1: Oh I'm what I was?

681
00:31:25,360 --> 00:31:25,480
Speaker 6: I was.

682
00:31:25,680 --> 00:31:27,040
Speaker 3: I was the state champion grappler.

683
00:31:27,280 --> 00:31:31,880
Speaker 1: What you talk about your ground game like no game

684
00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:32,760
Speaker 1: like that running?

685
00:31:33,600 --> 00:31:35,360
Speaker 5: Yeah, it would be.

686
00:31:35,480 --> 00:31:37,200
Speaker 10: It would be dope to uh to roll with you

687
00:31:37,680 --> 00:31:40,160
Speaker 10: if you ever want to roll obviously, yeah, you know,

688
00:31:40,280 --> 00:31:40,560
Speaker 10: let me know.

689
00:31:40,680 --> 00:31:42,840
Speaker 1: Let me know what's wrong with my goddamn camera. I'm

690
00:31:42,840 --> 00:31:44,480
Speaker 1: gonna start me lining at your camera.

691
00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,200
Speaker 2: We got we got bar say talking about you know, hey,

692
00:31:50,480 --> 00:31:52,239
Speaker 2: if you want, if you want to bang a little bit?

693
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:54,240
Speaker 1: He hey, ht raady he got to get.

694
00:31:55,200 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 5: Your logging off now huh Now he spread a spread.

695
00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:02,760
Speaker 5: It's so good.

696
00:32:03,200 --> 00:32:05,040
Speaker 3: I don't know, no spare me. The only thing only

697
00:32:05,080 --> 00:32:06,360
Speaker 3: SPA know about is a tire.

698
00:32:06,400 --> 00:32:09,080
Speaker 1: And so let me ask you a question. So where's home?

699
00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:10,680
Speaker 5: Mer Sherman Oaks?

700
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:13,680
Speaker 10: Now oh okay, okay, okay. So you stayed you stayed

701
00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,160
Speaker 10: in Cali? Yeah, I mean I'm in LA. I bought

702
00:32:17,200 --> 00:32:19,440
Speaker 10: my mama house in Lakewood, which was about thirty minutes

703
00:32:19,480 --> 00:32:21,840
Speaker 10: from Long Beach, where I grew up at. You spent

704
00:32:21,960 --> 00:32:24,920
Speaker 10: some time in like South Central uster relationship all that,

705
00:32:25,040 --> 00:32:27,960
Speaker 10: you know, you know how it go. And for me,

706
00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,000
Speaker 10: I bought a house in the Sino and then obviously

707
00:32:30,080 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 10: the fires happened and got close to the crib. Thank you,

708
00:32:32,600 --> 00:32:36,520
Speaker 10: I was able to sell sell my house last year,

709
00:32:36,720 --> 00:32:40,720
Speaker 10: and then now it's more so just renting to be

710
00:32:40,840 --> 00:32:43,040
Speaker 10: more cash free because I'm not sure what I was

711
00:32:43,080 --> 00:32:45,640
Speaker 10: gonna do. Was I gonna play a twentieth year or

712
00:32:45,760 --> 00:32:47,760
Speaker 10: potentially go to the front office or whatever.

713
00:32:47,840 --> 00:32:48,480
Speaker 5: I just didn't know.

714
00:32:48,680 --> 00:32:51,440
Speaker 10: And so now I got to hold that off for

715
00:32:51,480 --> 00:32:54,040
Speaker 10: another two months or three months and figure that out.

716
00:32:54,840 --> 00:32:55,720
Speaker 1: But that's what sold you.

717
00:32:55,920 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 2: You're looking at potentially thinking the valley is got probably

718
00:32:58,800 --> 00:33:01,840
Speaker 2: gonna be where you sit drop anchor at so, but

719
00:33:01,960 --> 00:33:04,360
Speaker 2: it's gonna be California. You not necessarily the Valle because

720
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:06,240
Speaker 2: we don't want to give about your information. Well you know,

721
00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:09,160
Speaker 2: probably California. You're a Cali kid at heart, so that's

722
00:33:09,160 --> 00:33:10,520
Speaker 2: probably where you set up shop.

723
00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:14,280
Speaker 5: Yeah, like California is uh you know.

724
00:33:14,440 --> 00:33:17,080
Speaker 10: I feel like like me and my mom are like

725
00:33:17,120 --> 00:33:18,800
Speaker 10: best friends too. I don't know if I could just

726
00:33:19,200 --> 00:33:22,880
Speaker 10: you know, bounce on it like that and then yeah,

727
00:33:23,040 --> 00:33:25,000
Speaker 10: and so like I would probably rather stay there, but

728
00:33:25,120 --> 00:33:28,320
Speaker 10: I'm i love to travel too. So even if even

729
00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,480
Speaker 10: if I like got something again in California, it would

730
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Speaker 10: probably be like just a dope penthouse or something something

731
00:33:34,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 10: I don't have to worry about maintenes. I want the

732
00:33:36,360 --> 00:33:39,200
Speaker 10: panoramic and I could just pull up, plug and play.

733
00:33:39,280 --> 00:33:42,600
Speaker 10: And then I traveled because having the house and all

734
00:33:42,680 --> 00:33:48,480
Speaker 10: that mortgage bro, I'm over it. I'm over paying mortgages

735
00:33:48,560 --> 00:33:49,680
Speaker 10: and interest rates.

736
00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:52,440
Speaker 5: And I'm just over it. Yeah.

737
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,320
Speaker 10: So I just you know, the older you get, like

738
00:33:55,480 --> 00:33:58,400
Speaker 10: for me, I've been more of a menialist or minimalist

739
00:33:58,760 --> 00:34:01,040
Speaker 10: the older I've gotten. And so I realized that I

740
00:34:01,080 --> 00:34:04,160
Speaker 10: don't need a whole bunch to find joy, Like I'm

741
00:34:04,400 --> 00:34:08,600
Speaker 10: happy inside, you know, so all the other things.

742
00:34:08,320 --> 00:34:09,520
Speaker 5: That like that minds you.

743
00:34:09,600 --> 00:34:13,279
Speaker 10: Playing in Jacksonville is not It wasn't the real NFL experience, right, Like,

744
00:34:13,360 --> 00:34:18,360
Speaker 10: it's not there's nothing in Jacksonville, right, No, come on,

745
00:34:18,760 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 10: I mean when I got to Jacksonville, they're robbing players.

746
00:34:22,400 --> 00:34:25,560
Speaker 10: It was barely Yes, dude was getting stuck up at

747
00:34:25,560 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 10: gas station. No, swear to god, dude's getting stuck up

748
00:34:27,640 --> 00:34:28,360
Speaker 10: at gas stations.

749
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:31,200
Speaker 5: It was just not I was like, you what am I?

750
00:34:31,320 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 10: What am I doing out here, Like I was born

751
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,200
Speaker 10: in Loan Beach. I saw all that in Loan Beach,

752
00:34:35,400 --> 00:34:38,160
Speaker 10: which is LA. That changed, right, I'm in Brentwood.

753
00:34:38,280 --> 00:34:40,320
Speaker 2: Yeah, you and Westwood, you and you and you between

754
00:34:40,400 --> 00:34:44,040
Speaker 2: Brentwood and Beverly, get to Jacksonville.

755
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:47,920
Speaker 10: I'm like, okay, we're going backwards now as far as

756
00:34:48,040 --> 00:34:51,680
Speaker 10: like I'm living right and so yeah, man, at this point,

757
00:34:51,719 --> 00:34:55,479
Speaker 10: I'm just like the least that I have to worry about,

758
00:34:55,680 --> 00:34:57,759
Speaker 10: least overhead that I have to worry about. Can I

759
00:34:57,880 --> 00:34:59,839
Speaker 10: just pack it back and go travel and go see

760
00:34:59,840 --> 00:35:02,800
Speaker 10: the world because playing ball, I've been playing pop Warners

761
00:35:02,800 --> 00:35:05,080
Speaker 10: since I was seven, have not stopped. I'm forty one

762
00:35:05,360 --> 00:35:06,399
Speaker 10: when I retired.

763
00:35:06,080 --> 00:35:07,759
Speaker 5: After this show. I just want to see the world, man,

764
00:35:07,880 --> 00:35:09,680
Speaker 5: like in a real way, you know.

765
00:35:10,480 --> 00:35:14,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, yeah, well you know, at your size, you know,

766
00:35:14,160 --> 00:35:18,279
Speaker 2: everybody gonna think you did something. So you go to

767
00:35:18,360 --> 00:35:20,680
Speaker 2: bar Country, they're gonna be poor. They like you did something.

768
00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:24,600
Speaker 2: You ain't just big for no reason walking around nah.

769
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Speaker 10: And I mean I'm low key too, like I've already

770
00:35:27,239 --> 00:35:30,320
Speaker 10: checked into it, like certain places, especially in South America,

771
00:35:30,400 --> 00:35:32,160
Speaker 10: Like I've been in Costa Rica for my birthday. But

772
00:35:32,280 --> 00:35:35,360
Speaker 10: like I'm getting the NFL to give me some security

773
00:35:35,480 --> 00:35:36,280
Speaker 10: or something like, I'm.

774
00:35:36,440 --> 00:35:37,520
Speaker 1: Y yea, yeah, yeah, yeah, yep.

775
00:35:37,719 --> 00:35:40,960
Speaker 10: I'm not walking around, you know, deally dallying and not

776
00:35:41,080 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 10: expecting nothing to happen.

777
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:45,160
Speaker 2: So right, you definitely got to be on You gotta

778
00:35:45,200 --> 00:35:47,399
Speaker 2: a You gotta be on your best behavior watching six

779
00:35:47,480 --> 00:35:48,120
Speaker 2: at all times.

780
00:35:48,440 --> 00:35:50,279
Speaker 1: And the best day to do is a nfl A

781
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:51,239
Speaker 1: hook it up for.

782
00:35:51,280 --> 00:35:55,480
Speaker 5: Your boys on man, set me up please, right hey.

783
00:35:55,400 --> 00:35:57,560
Speaker 1: When you're at the Broncos, what number are you wearing?

784
00:35:57,719 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 5: I'm wearing eighty nine.

785
00:35:59,560 --> 00:36:01,920
Speaker 2: Okay, you got cars. I thought you gonna get eighty four.

786
00:36:01,960 --> 00:36:03,480
Speaker 2: I said, man, make eighty four look good?

787
00:36:03,520 --> 00:36:04,239
Speaker 1: What last time?

788
00:36:04,320 --> 00:36:07,640
Speaker 5: Mannah? You uh best to ever do it? Bro?

789
00:36:08,040 --> 00:36:13,160
Speaker 10: And ain't no way, ain't no way. And I wouldn't even,

790
00:36:14,480 --> 00:36:16,759
Speaker 10: I just wouldn't. Just I was just the respect. And

791
00:36:17,239 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 10: and it was crazy because you came up like I'm

792
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:20,359
Speaker 10: in there and they're like, what number do you want?

793
00:36:20,400 --> 00:36:22,239
Speaker 10: I'm like eighty nine, and they're looking at the thing

794
00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:23,640
Speaker 10: and I was like, yeah, there's no eighty nine. And

795
00:36:23,719 --> 00:36:25,680
Speaker 10: then I looked at Champagne and Champagne and was like, yeah,

796
00:36:25,719 --> 00:36:27,920
Speaker 10: the best tight in there play here is eighty four.

797
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:29,560
Speaker 10: I said, yeah, he's one of the best ever playing

798
00:36:29,560 --> 00:36:30,160
Speaker 10: in this league too.

799
00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:33,040
Speaker 5: You know what I mean. So like and that's that's

800
00:36:33,120 --> 00:36:35,920
Speaker 5: all positions, so that's not even a question.

801
00:36:36,480 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 1: Like, I appreciate that. Hey, man, enjoy it, man, Hey,

802
00:36:42,640 --> 00:36:43,560
Speaker 1: Broncos look good.

803
00:36:43,600 --> 00:36:46,239
Speaker 2: They got a nice defense defense in the sensational Boat

804
00:36:46,280 --> 00:36:50,000
Speaker 2: Diss played really well Courtland Sutton of mems. Hey, they

805
00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:51,839
Speaker 2: got guys that can go make play, that can run

806
00:36:51,880 --> 00:36:53,880
Speaker 2: the football with Harvey and Dobbins.

807
00:36:54,200 --> 00:36:57,200
Speaker 1: Hey, keep it going, man, and who knows might see

808
00:36:57,239 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 1: your say.

809
00:36:58,640 --> 00:37:00,200
Speaker 5: Hey, let's do up.

810
00:37:00,239 --> 00:37:00,359
Speaker 8: Man.

811
00:37:00,360 --> 00:37:02,680
Speaker 10: I appreciate you guys. Thanks for having me brother. This

812
00:37:02,760 --> 00:37:05,120
Speaker 10: is the first time you know, me and Sharp actually

813
00:37:05,320 --> 00:37:07,480
Speaker 10: had a conversation, so I was geek for that.

814
00:37:07,840 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 5: Oh show. We always be seeing each other out and

815
00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:12,839
Speaker 5: at each other. Joan was a pleasure, man. Respect your.

816
00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,160
Speaker 2: Whatever, blue tie, jitsu, whatever you want to do, whatever

817
00:37:19,200 --> 00:37:21,560
Speaker 2: you call it me say that you call it okay

818
00:37:21,800 --> 00:37:23,399
Speaker 2: and we'll get oo there.

819
00:37:24,560 --> 00:37:27,080
Speaker 1: We have pick him up and bring you.

820
00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,759
Speaker 5: Back, Michelle. Man, appreciate your love. Man.

821
00:37:37,719 --> 00:37:40,640
Speaker 2: Jess Woody Johnson made headlines last week for some hardest

822
00:37:40,680 --> 00:37:44,319
Speaker 2: comments he gave them by Justin Fields. Johnson is hard

823
00:37:44,480 --> 00:37:46,680
Speaker 2: when you have a quarterback with a rating.

824
00:37:46,480 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: That we got. If we could just complete a pass,

825
00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:50,439
Speaker 1: it would look good.

826
00:37:50,719 --> 00:37:53,759
Speaker 2: According to former two quarterback Jordan Travis, these are the

827
00:37:53,880 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 2: only troubling comments Johnson has made to one of the

828
00:37:57,440 --> 00:38:01,840
Speaker 2: team's quarterbacks despite dealing with his leg injury. Travis remembers

829
00:38:01,880 --> 00:38:05,200
Speaker 2: Johnson asking him, are you ever gonna get healthy?

830
00:38:05,719 --> 00:38:06,080
Speaker 1: Travis?

831
00:38:06,239 --> 00:38:08,880
Speaker 2: There were things that were said to me, not obviulusly

832
00:38:08,960 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 2: to that point, because I never got in the field

833
00:38:11,719 --> 00:38:15,040
Speaker 2: to play about my leg, just slick comments. I don't

834
00:38:15,080 --> 00:38:16,880
Speaker 2: know if he was trying to be slick about it

835
00:38:17,239 --> 00:38:19,400
Speaker 2: or you know how some older men just say whatever

836
00:38:19,480 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 2: comes to their mind. And that kind of made me

837
00:38:21,800 --> 00:38:24,120
Speaker 2: feel a certain type of way, now how you feeling?

838
00:38:24,239 --> 00:38:28,279
Speaker 2: Never that there was always comments like that, it's either

839
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 2: upoint a finger at Justin Fields or Aaron glaf for

840
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,440
Speaker 2: the Jets troubles. But Robert Salad seems to be the

841
00:38:33,480 --> 00:38:36,120
Speaker 2: coach defense really well for the forty nine ers. Aaron

842
00:38:36,160 --> 00:38:40,919
Speaker 2: Rodgers looked pretty good at Pittsburgh. Sam Donald two, Oh, Joe, Joe.

843
00:38:41,200 --> 00:38:46,040
Speaker 2: How much blame should we place on hornership led by

844
00:38:46,080 --> 00:38:50,120
Speaker 2: Woody Johnson for the long, long history of Jets failure?

845
00:38:51,440 --> 00:38:54,440
Speaker 7: I mean, listen, are you similar to the quarterback Situay

846
00:38:54,480 --> 00:38:57,239
Speaker 7: through the Chiago Bears for the long long history of

847
00:38:57,239 --> 00:39:00,160
Speaker 7: affairs that that position as well. I mean management is

848
00:39:00,160 --> 00:39:03,600
Speaker 7: the blame as well for the long, long long failures

849
00:39:03,960 --> 00:39:06,319
Speaker 7: for the quarterback position with the Jets. Most of the time,

850
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:08,720
Speaker 7: the identity for the Jets has always been their defense.

851
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:11,960
Speaker 7: That has always been the better part of the successful

852
00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,680
Speaker 7: part of their their their team. Obviously not this year,

853
00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:18,399
Speaker 7: and obviously offense not this year. Is well, But I thought,

854
00:39:19,160 --> 00:39:20,799
Speaker 7: I really thought this was justin fields year.

855
00:39:21,440 --> 00:39:22,600
Speaker 1: I thought it would have been his year.

856
00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,080
Speaker 3: He had nothing to worry about. He had nobody eyeing

857
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 3: over his shoulder.

858
00:39:26,200 --> 00:39:27,960
Speaker 7: It was his team, his team to win, and his

859
00:39:28,080 --> 00:39:31,120
Speaker 7: team and lose. Uh, they're one and seven, obviously beating

860
00:39:31,160 --> 00:39:34,800
Speaker 7: my Bengals, but it is what it is. But I

861
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,080
Speaker 7: think at some point they will turn it around. I

862
00:39:37,200 --> 00:39:38,920
Speaker 7: think he can be the.

863
00:39:39,000 --> 00:39:41,000
Speaker 3: Future for the New York Jets. Is he gonna get

864
00:39:41,000 --> 00:39:42,080
Speaker 3: that opportunity to be?

865
00:39:42,360 --> 00:39:44,239
Speaker 7: After Woody Johnson came out and said some of the

866
00:39:44,320 --> 00:39:47,040
Speaker 7: things he said publicly that most owners would say to

867
00:39:47,120 --> 00:39:51,000
Speaker 7: themselves or people up stairs, you don't yeah, yeah, you

868
00:39:51,120 --> 00:39:53,080
Speaker 7: never say anything like that publicly. But it seemed like

869
00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:54,920
Speaker 7: since Jerry Jones said, what do he needs to say?

870
00:39:55,800 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 7: Other owners are now having the owners and the wirewithal

871
00:39:59,840 --> 00:40:00,800
Speaker 7: the say you know what, forget it.

872
00:40:00,880 --> 00:40:03,160
Speaker 3: I'm just gonna say how I'm feeling and let him know.

873
00:40:04,520 --> 00:40:07,400
Speaker 7: And it has to it has to hurt to know

874
00:40:08,000 --> 00:40:10,279
Speaker 7: that your owner feels that way, and I still got

875
00:40:10,360 --> 00:40:11,480
Speaker 7: to go out there and.

876
00:40:11,600 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: Play for him.

877
00:40:14,160 --> 00:40:16,400
Speaker 8: Hey, look, I kind of I kind of I agree

878
00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,040
Speaker 8: kind of with Justin Fields. I mean, you got other

879
00:40:19,080 --> 00:40:22,480
Speaker 8: guys who can play for their franchise man quarterbacks, and

880
00:40:22,600 --> 00:40:25,279
Speaker 8: they went off and you know, play for other organizations

881
00:40:25,360 --> 00:40:31,279
Speaker 8: and well, so therefore, yeah, you gotta start up top

882
00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:33,920
Speaker 8: with the organization and how things have been ran because

883
00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:38,200
Speaker 8: for whatever reason, they hadn't been getting you know, great outcomes. Obviously,

884
00:40:38,360 --> 00:40:41,440
Speaker 8: Justin Fields played great this past week, but man, you

885
00:40:41,560 --> 00:40:44,920
Speaker 8: hope he can build confidence from that and try to

886
00:40:45,120 --> 00:40:47,799
Speaker 8: you know, continue to you know, play at the elite level.

887
00:40:49,040 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 1: They got to prove the roster overall, O Joe. I mean, yeah,

888
00:40:53,640 --> 00:40:55,480
Speaker 1: but that's hard. You know, how much time.

889
00:41:00,760 --> 00:41:02,719
Speaker 3: Will they give Aaron Gillion the time to improve the

890
00:41:02,800 --> 00:41:03,239
Speaker 3: right I.

891
00:41:03,239 --> 00:41:05,719
Speaker 2: Think because a played there, I think he'll probably have

892
00:41:05,800 --> 00:41:07,800
Speaker 2: a little longer. I think he'll have a little longer

893
00:41:09,800 --> 00:41:12,080
Speaker 2: lee way than most. I don't want to. I don't

894
00:41:12,080 --> 00:41:14,040
Speaker 2: want to say what we would normally say, a longer

895
00:41:14,120 --> 00:41:18,880
Speaker 2: leads because I just try to be politically correct. I

896
00:41:18,960 --> 00:41:22,719
Speaker 2: think he'll have a a longer opportunity to stay than

897
00:41:22,800 --> 00:41:26,719
Speaker 2: probably most because of this history with the organization and

898
00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:29,480
Speaker 2: how well he's played for the organization and what he

899
00:41:29,600 --> 00:41:32,920
Speaker 2: knows him personally. So yes, I do think he'll have

900
00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,520
Speaker 2: a But look, I don't care who you are. If

901
00:41:36,560 --> 00:41:38,759
Speaker 2: your quarterback doesn't play well, it's hard for you to

902
00:41:38,800 --> 00:41:39,600
Speaker 2: win in this league.

903
00:41:40,640 --> 00:41:45,319
Speaker 7: It's hard, very but a young a Joe, situations matter.

904
00:41:46,000 --> 00:41:50,879
Speaker 7: The situations on where you play surrounding you is very

905
00:41:50,960 --> 00:41:54,399
Speaker 7: very important. Joe, I can't think of it in basketball terms,

906
00:41:54,520 --> 00:41:57,280
Speaker 7: but maybe Uncle Joe, you you could probably probably relate

907
00:41:57,320 --> 00:42:00,719
Speaker 7: to it. Who would be Daniel Jones on the New

908
00:42:00,800 --> 00:42:03,399
Speaker 7: York Giants in basketball terms? And then all of aus

909
00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:07,560
Speaker 7: Daniel Jones, that player actually leaving said team and going

910
00:42:07,600 --> 00:42:09,600
Speaker 7: to where else and succeeding the way Daniel Jones is

911
00:42:09,680 --> 00:42:13,320
Speaker 7: succeeding in Indianapolis. Who would that be in basketball terms?

912
00:42:14,320 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: Who would that be?

913
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:15,440
Speaker 2: Uh?

914
00:42:16,520 --> 00:42:19,800
Speaker 9: Because Daniel Jones balling killing it?

915
00:42:20,400 --> 00:42:21,480
Speaker 1: Yeah, I'm trying to let me.

916
00:42:21,480 --> 00:42:27,040
Speaker 8: See the only thing is that Brunton didn't he I mean,

917
00:42:27,080 --> 00:42:29,520
Speaker 8: he left the Mavericks and went to New York and

918
00:42:29,600 --> 00:42:31,560
Speaker 8: he balling in New York as the team.

919
00:42:32,480 --> 00:42:33,799
Speaker 1: But that was yeah, he was back.

920
00:42:33,840 --> 00:42:34,319
Speaker 5: You know what I mean.

921
00:42:34,600 --> 00:42:39,160
Speaker 2: Ain't nobody. Ain't nobody who overshined Luca not now? Yeah, yeah,

922
00:42:39,200 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: he was backing up Luca. But he went off and

923
00:42:41,239 --> 00:42:42,880
Speaker 2: you know, obviously you know what he's doing in New

924
00:42:42,960 --> 00:42:43,520
Speaker 2: York right now.

925
00:42:44,160 --> 00:42:45,680
Speaker 1: But uh who.

926
00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,520
Speaker 9: Because I mean, they let Daniel Jones go. They just

927
00:42:49,680 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 9: they they let him walk.

928
00:42:51,280 --> 00:42:54,279
Speaker 2: On the yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, and he ended up

929
00:42:54,719 --> 00:42:57,120
Speaker 2: he went to Uh didn't he go to Minnesota for year?

930
00:42:57,160 --> 00:42:57,200
Speaker 5: What?

931
00:42:57,800 --> 00:42:57,960
Speaker 1: Yeah?

932
00:42:57,960 --> 00:42:59,680
Speaker 3: He was the backup. He was the backup in Minnesota

933
00:43:00,719 --> 00:43:02,400
Speaker 3: when the Minnesota then went on down to and.

934
00:43:05,880 --> 00:43:12,479
Speaker 5: Uh in basketball, I don't know, man, uh.

935
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:14,839
Speaker 1: No, but he played.

936
00:43:14,880 --> 00:43:21,000
Speaker 9: He was good in Chicago. Who was Jimmy Butler? Yeah,

937
00:43:21,600 --> 00:43:22,319
Speaker 9: Jimmy was good.

938
00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 3: Jimmy been good everywhere, went on Chicago, Philly. He's always

939
00:43:26,920 --> 00:43:28,920
Speaker 3: been consistent. I mean what he does well.

940
00:43:28,960 --> 00:43:31,759
Speaker 2: See. The thing is is that we thought, we thought,

941
00:43:31,960 --> 00:43:34,360
Speaker 2: if you go back and look at Brunson when Luca

942
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:36,640
Speaker 2: was out, he showed you what he can do if

943
00:43:36,640 --> 00:43:39,520
Speaker 2: he had his own team. Yeah yeah, go back to look,

944
00:43:39,600 --> 00:43:41,480
Speaker 2: go back and look at when Luca missed that time,

945
00:43:41,760 --> 00:43:45,560
Speaker 2: and look at what Brunton was doing. So now he

946
00:43:45,680 --> 00:43:48,759
Speaker 2: got his own team, he's gonna be the primary ball handler.

947
00:43:48,800 --> 00:43:51,160
Speaker 2: He's gonna be the primary shot taker. I don't think

948
00:43:51,200 --> 00:43:54,160
Speaker 2: anybody is surprised by this. Now, maybe maybe the guy

949
00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,520
Speaker 2: averaged twenty six twenty seven points a game and as

950
00:43:56,600 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 2: many thirty point games he's had, But I thought he

951
00:43:59,280 --> 00:44:01,319
Speaker 2: would be really now that I think he'd be an

952
00:44:01,360 --> 00:44:04,320
Speaker 2: All NBA selection. I wouldn't go that far, but I

953
00:44:04,360 --> 00:44:06,000
Speaker 2: thought he could make the All Star team. I thought

954
00:44:06,040 --> 00:44:08,160
Speaker 2: he could make an All Star team because the guy

955
00:44:08,200 --> 00:44:10,920
Speaker 2: that playing that well in spurts when he has the

956
00:44:11,000 --> 00:44:12,880
Speaker 2: ball in his hand and they say okay and.

957
00:44:15,960 --> 00:44:19,080
Speaker 1: Uh ki kid like okay, we need you to do

958
00:44:19,200 --> 00:44:21,080
Speaker 1: more of a role and not be so boom.

959
00:44:21,160 --> 00:44:21,560
Speaker 5: We saw that.

960
00:44:22,080 --> 00:44:26,160
Speaker 2: But look, yeah, James Harden, we saw what he was.

961
00:44:26,520 --> 00:44:30,480
Speaker 2: Remember you, six Man of the Year. I'm sure people

962
00:44:30,520 --> 00:44:33,160
Speaker 2: thought he could be good, but not averaging thirty six

963
00:44:33,239 --> 00:44:35,880
Speaker 2: point a night, good, not changing the game, good with

964
00:44:36,000 --> 00:44:36,680
Speaker 2: that step back?

965
00:44:37,960 --> 00:44:45,200
Speaker 1: No no, uh who else was like that? Now with

966
00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:46,799
Speaker 1: Shade just didn't get a chance to play.

967
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,480
Speaker 2: If Shane got a chance to play, and plus look

968
00:44:50,960 --> 00:44:52,520
Speaker 2: he was he was not gonna do that with the

969
00:44:53,280 --> 00:44:56,360
Speaker 2: Not with Kawhi you had just gave. You had just

970
00:44:56,400 --> 00:44:58,680
Speaker 2: think about what you got with Kawhi. Kawhi was gonna

971
00:44:58,680 --> 00:45:02,520
Speaker 2: be the main ball handler. Shae's in a situation. Shade

972
00:45:02,640 --> 00:45:05,200
Speaker 2: knows he can get as many shots as he wants,

973
00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:11,000
Speaker 2: and he ain't stepping on nobody's toes. The Clippers they

974
00:45:11,040 --> 00:45:14,240
Speaker 2: didn't want, they weren't gonna wait for No, they couldn't

975
00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:16,040
Speaker 2: because why you bringing Kawhi?

976
00:45:16,120 --> 00:45:17,239
Speaker 1: And Kawi wants to win now?

977
00:45:17,560 --> 00:45:20,440
Speaker 2: And he basically basically said, if you don't get me,

978
00:45:20,560 --> 00:45:24,400
Speaker 2: Paul George, I'm going with the Lakers. Can you imagine Kawhi,

979
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:27,040
Speaker 2: Lebron and a D and then you playing in the

980
00:45:27,120 --> 00:45:31,279
Speaker 2: basement with that? No, they had to they had they

981
00:45:31,360 --> 00:45:31,800
Speaker 2: had to do it.

982
00:45:31,840 --> 00:45:33,719
Speaker 7: O Joe, I mean, hold on, hold on, I have

983
00:45:33,800 --> 00:45:36,440
Speaker 7: a question, Joe, Joe, And if the Clippers knew what

984
00:45:36,520 --> 00:45:40,719
Speaker 7: they knew now about Shaving, how how he was traded him,

985
00:45:41,440 --> 00:45:44,200
Speaker 7: they would So how do you not see how do

986
00:45:44,280 --> 00:45:44,880
Speaker 7: you not see it?

987
00:45:44,960 --> 00:45:49,520
Speaker 2: Because because he wasn't a rookie O Joe and no

988
00:45:49,760 --> 00:45:51,879
Speaker 2: rookie because you got to realize he wasn't the first

989
00:45:51,920 --> 00:45:54,839
Speaker 2: pick in the draft. He wasn't a d he wasn't

990
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:59,560
Speaker 2: Zion that you're running your offense through. So now he's

991
00:45:59,560 --> 00:46:05,279
Speaker 2: a SITI situation. He's the offense. So you they're away listen.

992
00:46:05,360 --> 00:46:08,040
Speaker 2: Just like James Harden. Now, people thought James could be

993
00:46:08,080 --> 00:46:11,120
Speaker 2: good because he was a great ISO player when they

994
00:46:11,320 --> 00:46:15,400
Speaker 2: when KD and Russ went to the bitch, James Harden

995
00:46:15,719 --> 00:46:19,879
Speaker 2: was sensational. But sensational is averaging sixteen points a game.

996
00:46:20,719 --> 00:46:23,000
Speaker 2: He averaged thirty six. He had games where he went

997
00:46:23,120 --> 00:46:25,640
Speaker 2: like thirty forty games. He's average getting thirty a night,

998
00:46:26,440 --> 00:46:30,880
Speaker 2: sixty point triple doubles, fifty point triple doubles. But he

999
00:46:31,200 --> 00:46:34,080
Speaker 2: knows it's a lot easier to play, O Joe, if

1000
00:46:34,120 --> 00:46:36,560
Speaker 2: you the number one and you know you're gonna get

1001
00:46:36,640 --> 00:46:38,759
Speaker 2: twelve thirteen, fourteen targets a.

1002
00:46:38,800 --> 00:46:42,239
Speaker 3: Game, right, Right, But I understand that, right.

1003
00:46:42,560 --> 00:46:45,520
Speaker 7: But the basketball heads that are in the Clippers organization,

1004
00:46:45,680 --> 00:46:48,160
Speaker 7: those that have been watching the game, scout GMS and

1005
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 7: understanding you have an eye for talent. There's a certain

1006
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 7: thing that we can see called the it factor. It's

1007
00:46:53,719 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 7: called the eye test. Even if it's not his team,

1008
00:46:56,920 --> 00:46:58,840
Speaker 7: you can tell when the player is gonna be special.

1009
00:46:58,880 --> 00:46:59,560
Speaker 1: You can look at it.

1010
00:46:59,640 --> 00:47:02,040
Speaker 3: There their skill set, what they can and what they

1011
00:47:02,120 --> 00:47:02,440
Speaker 3: can do.

1012
00:47:02,800 --> 00:47:05,080
Speaker 7: And when you look at Shay's game on both ends

1013
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,560
Speaker 7: of the court, that's somebody that you say this MF

1014
00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:10,400
Speaker 7: is special, not letting him go.

1015
00:47:10,960 --> 00:47:13,399
Speaker 1: I think that the Clippers knew he was special. I've

1016
00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:14,120
Speaker 1: seen Doc River.

1017
00:47:14,320 --> 00:47:18,440
Speaker 8: He said that was the hardest thing to put in

1018
00:47:18,520 --> 00:47:21,480
Speaker 8: the trade, was to add Shay into that trade because

1019
00:47:21,520 --> 00:47:24,200
Speaker 8: he knew that Shaye was gonna be pretty good. I

1020
00:47:24,200 --> 00:47:25,560
Speaker 8: don't know if he thought he was gonna be in,

1021
00:47:27,840 --> 00:47:29,359
Speaker 8: but he knew he was gonna be good. And then

1022
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:32,600
Speaker 8: on top of that, Ojo you never know, Like for Shae,

1023
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:35,320
Speaker 8: maybe that was great for his career because they probably

1024
00:47:35,360 --> 00:47:37,440
Speaker 8: put a little fire in him, you know what I

1025
00:47:37,560 --> 00:47:38,920
Speaker 8: mean to be like, all right, they got rid of me,

1026
00:47:38,960 --> 00:47:40,719
Speaker 8: I'm gonna show him, you know what I mean. And

1027
00:47:40,840 --> 00:47:43,840
Speaker 8: now he's playing at at a level to where I

1028
00:47:43,880 --> 00:47:46,640
Speaker 8: don't think nobody's seen this bro. He's he's a bucket.

1029
00:47:46,719 --> 00:47:49,440
Speaker 8: He's thirty points every night, give a take. I don't care,

1030
00:47:49,480 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 8: I don't care what what happened.

1031
00:47:51,440 --> 00:47:54,960
Speaker 2: He gonna have thirty and plus the biggest fridge and

1032
00:47:55,000 --> 00:47:59,360
Speaker 2: available was Kawhi. Kawhi said, if you don't get me,

1033
00:47:59,520 --> 00:48:03,200
Speaker 2: Paul George, I'm going to sign with the Lakers. Do

1034
00:48:03,400 --> 00:48:07,320
Speaker 2: you really want Lebron James, Kawhi, Leonard and a D

1035
00:48:07,960 --> 00:48:10,680
Speaker 2: in the building that you play in? Do you really

1036
00:48:10,760 --> 00:48:11,600
Speaker 2: want that to happen?

1037
00:48:15,840 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 3: Realistic?

1038
00:48:17,520 --> 00:48:18,160
Speaker 9: He was going home.

1039
00:48:18,239 --> 00:48:20,080
Speaker 8: He was going Kawhi was going back to l A.

1040
00:48:20,160 --> 00:48:21,840
Speaker 8: I don't know you know what team yet, but he

1041
00:48:21,920 --> 00:48:23,200
Speaker 8: was going back to l A for sure.

1042
00:48:23,400 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 3: Okay, that's crazy.

1043
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,560
Speaker 7: How how players, especially NBA players can control where they

1044
00:48:29,640 --> 00:48:31,520
Speaker 7: want to go. They can pick and choose where they

1045
00:48:31,600 --> 00:48:33,400
Speaker 7: want to go if they if they say I want to,

1046
00:48:33,680 --> 00:48:34,400
Speaker 7: I want to I want to.

1047
00:48:34,400 --> 00:48:36,560
Speaker 3: Trade, I don't want to be here more. The team

1048
00:48:36,640 --> 00:48:38,080
Speaker 3: had no choice. But the movie.

1049
00:48:37,920 --> 00:48:40,399
Speaker 8: Superstars the way you have to because if a guy

1050
00:48:40,520 --> 00:48:43,640
Speaker 8: only has one one year left on his deal Ojo,

1051
00:48:44,320 --> 00:48:46,640
Speaker 8: and he's telling you you know, he ain't signing back

1052
00:48:46,800 --> 00:48:49,399
Speaker 8: in so many words, then you gotta you gotta trade

1053
00:48:49,480 --> 00:48:50,520
Speaker 8: him to get something back.

1054
00:48:50,640 --> 00:48:51,200
Speaker 1: You know what I mean?

1055
00:48:51,320 --> 00:48:54,440
Speaker 2: What dude, OKC was Kevin Durant walked out the door

1056
00:48:54,440 --> 00:48:55,160
Speaker 2: and didn't get nothing.

1057
00:48:55,239 --> 00:48:55,520
Speaker 4: For him.

1058
00:48:56,640 --> 00:48:56,839
Speaker 5: Yep.

1059
00:48:57,200 --> 00:49:01,640
Speaker 2: I imagine if you could have traded in before see

1060
00:49:02,360 --> 00:49:06,360
Speaker 2: he walked out the door and you didn't get anything nothing.

1061
00:49:06,480 --> 00:49:10,120
Speaker 2: Kd at his prime walks out of your door and

1062
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:12,399
Speaker 2: you don't get anything for him.

1063
00:49:13,120 --> 00:49:13,799
Speaker 1: The same thing.

1064
00:49:14,160 --> 00:49:16,080
Speaker 2: Had the the Clippers could have tried to just got

1065
00:49:16,120 --> 00:49:19,800
Speaker 2: the Clippers the horn the hornet, not the Hornets. The

1066
00:49:19,880 --> 00:49:22,960
Speaker 2: Pelicans could have tried to play hardball. But at contract

1067
00:49:23,040 --> 00:49:25,400
Speaker 2: was coming up. Do you really want Anthony Davis to

1068
00:49:25,440 --> 00:49:27,279
Speaker 2: walk out of there and you don't get nothing for him?

1069
00:49:27,440 --> 00:49:30,920
Speaker 1: And you the Pelican? Ain't nobody coming to the New Orleans.

1070
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:33,000
Speaker 1: I'm sorry. It's a great city.

1071
00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:36,279
Speaker 2: I mean, the jazz and the food is amazing, but

1072
00:49:36,360 --> 00:49:38,480
Speaker 2: you're not getting superstars to come down of New Orleans.

1073
00:49:38,600 --> 00:49:39,160
Speaker 1: You're just not.

1074
00:49:40,200 --> 00:49:40,960
Speaker 5: So you have to.

1075
00:49:41,120 --> 00:49:47,279
Speaker 1: You don't have a choice, right, So so what what

1076
00:49:47,400 --> 00:49:48,640
Speaker 1: do I? What do I do? O? Joe?

1077
00:49:49,280 --> 00:49:51,920
Speaker 2: And like I said, yes, I think Doc realized that

1078
00:49:52,000 --> 00:49:54,040
Speaker 2: Shay was gonna be good, But I don't know if

1079
00:49:54,080 --> 00:49:59,239
Speaker 2: Doc thought he'd be this good. The reason why they

1080
00:49:59,320 --> 00:50:02,239
Speaker 2: kept Tom Brad they kept four quarterbacks that year. Coach

1081
00:50:02,320 --> 00:50:04,319
Speaker 2: Belichick said, well, a little work, he thought he could

1082
00:50:04,320 --> 00:50:07,839
Speaker 2: be good. You thought he's gonna be seven seven Super Bowls, good,

1083
00:50:08,440 --> 00:50:10,960
Speaker 2: fifteen pro bows. You thought he was gonna be the

1084
00:50:10,960 --> 00:50:15,319
Speaker 2: all time leader and passes touchdowns, wins, super Bowl wins,

1085
00:50:15,400 --> 00:50:17,799
Speaker 2: super Bowl MVPs. You thought he's gonna be that good

1086
00:50:17,960 --> 00:50:19,839
Speaker 2: because if you did, you took him in the first round,

1087
00:50:20,080 --> 00:50:22,480
Speaker 2: you wouldn't took him in the sixth round. And you

1088
00:50:22,520 --> 00:50:24,520
Speaker 2: guess what, you have started him from day one, so

1089
00:50:24,640 --> 00:50:28,520
Speaker 2: you didn't know, you thought he could be good. Everybody like, oh, yeah,

1090
00:50:28,520 --> 00:50:30,479
Speaker 2: we knew she had bro I was saying my draft

1091
00:50:30,520 --> 00:50:33,440
Speaker 2: pick me making the team was a feat in and

1092
00:50:33,520 --> 00:50:36,160
Speaker 2: of itself, let alone playing able to play fourteen years

1093
00:50:36,360 --> 00:50:39,239
Speaker 2: and having the accomplishment. Everybody gets to say that after

1094
00:50:39,280 --> 00:50:41,040
Speaker 2: the fact. Oh joe ya, I knew that boy was

1095
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,160
Speaker 2: gonna make it. Oh I knew, Oh I garvessed high school.

1096
00:50:44,160 --> 00:50:46,520
Speaker 2: I thought I told something such that boy gonna make it.

1097
00:50:51,960 --> 00:50:52,359
Speaker 1: It's a lot.

1098
00:50:52,440 --> 00:50:55,879
Speaker 8: It's a lot that has the transpiring he does. Loan

1099
00:50:56,120 --> 00:50:57,960
Speaker 8: a loan that journey man, you know what I mean?

1100
00:50:58,040 --> 00:51:01,600
Speaker 8: The things that mold us uh and to becoming pro

1101
00:51:01,880 --> 00:51:04,520
Speaker 8: professional athletes, The things that we go through. Man, it's

1102
00:51:04,600 --> 00:51:08,640
Speaker 8: it's ultimately it determines pretty much your longevity in the

1103
00:51:08,719 --> 00:51:11,480
Speaker 8: game or how you you know, approach the game. So

1104
00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,239
Speaker 8: when you look at Shaye, it's just like when I

1105
00:51:14,280 --> 00:51:16,319
Speaker 8: look at Shaye, I'm like, damn. Can you imagine him

1106
00:51:16,400 --> 00:51:18,880
Speaker 8: in LA and that new arena they got over there and.

1107
00:51:18,920 --> 00:51:21,359
Speaker 2: That's and think about it, that was another reason they're

1108
00:51:21,400 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 2: getting better to build a new arena. What do you

1109
00:51:23,520 --> 00:51:26,000
Speaker 2: need to go into a new arena? Joe, Superstars?

1110
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 5: Yes, the Stars.

1111
00:51:28,719 --> 00:51:31,760
Speaker 1: People were talking about Kawhi ain't better than SGA?

1112
00:51:32,360 --> 00:51:35,520
Speaker 2: Maybe not now if you think, if you think SGA

1113
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,719
Speaker 2: in his first the second year was better than Kawhi,

1114
00:51:37,800 --> 00:51:40,560
Speaker 2: y'all are damn food. Y'all watch y'all damn mind that

1115
00:51:40,719 --> 00:51:42,600
Speaker 2: man was a two time Defensive Player of the Year

1116
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:44,720
Speaker 2: and a two time Finals MVP.

1117
00:51:46,560 --> 00:51:48,720
Speaker 1: The man is one of the seventy seventy five graded

1118
00:51:48,760 --> 00:51:49,680
Speaker 1: players of all time.

1119
00:51:50,719 --> 00:51:52,759
Speaker 2: What do you mean, Okay, if you want to say

1120
00:51:52,840 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 2: he's not better than Shae, now, I'm not finna fight you.

1121
00:51:56,160 --> 00:51:57,480
Speaker 2: As a matter of fact, I gonna put my hand

1122
00:51:57,480 --> 00:52:00,200
Speaker 2: behind the chair. I ain't you know what I'm saying, Joe,

1123
00:52:00,239 --> 00:52:02,399
Speaker 2: I ain't gonna find him. But come on, now, y'all

1124
00:52:02,440 --> 00:52:04,560
Speaker 2: make it seem like Kawi was a ball and he

1125
00:52:04,760 --> 00:52:08,480
Speaker 2: was far from he's still not is the injury from Yes,

1126
00:52:09,320 --> 00:52:12,719
Speaker 2: has injury robbed him of some of his best years, Yes,

1127
00:52:13,320 --> 00:52:18,239
Speaker 2: But to say that he was Sga was better at

1128
00:52:18,280 --> 00:52:21,520
Speaker 2: that time, it's just not true because I remember for

1129
00:52:21,920 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 2: ja Jahachief shot stuck his foot up on the Kawhi

1130
00:52:25,920 --> 00:52:26,319
Speaker 2: they had.

1131
00:52:26,360 --> 00:52:29,280
Speaker 1: They had Golden State down by like eighteen.

1132
00:52:30,520 --> 00:52:30,719
Speaker 5: Yeah.

1133
00:52:31,360 --> 00:52:35,200
Speaker 2: Yeah, was Kawhi was a really Kawhi was a great player.

1134
00:52:35,440 --> 00:52:38,600
Speaker 2: There's a reason why he's a two time champion. He's

1135
00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,719
Speaker 2: a two time Defensive Player of the Year. He could

1136
00:52:40,760 --> 00:52:43,080
Speaker 2: play both ends of the court and he can play

1137
00:52:43,120 --> 00:52:46,960
Speaker 2: it well. But injuries have robbed him of.

1138
00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:50,879
Speaker 1: Some of his best years. And I tall is ki

1139
00:52:51,440 --> 00:52:53,359
Speaker 1: like six seven six

1140
00:52:53,800 --> 00:52:54,959
Speaker 3: Yeah, okay, okay, okay,