1 00:00:01,080 --> 00:00:04,200 Speaker 1: Welcome to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM paranormal 2 00:00:04,240 --> 00:00:07,520 Speaker 1: podcast network. Now get ready for us Strange Things with 3 00:00:07,640 --> 00:00:08,239 Speaker 1: Joshua P. 4 00:00:08,400 --> 00:00:08,680 Speaker 2: Warren. 5 00:00:13,840 --> 00:00:17,159 Speaker 3: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:17,200 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 3: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:21,200 --> 00:00:26,440 Speaker 3: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:26,440 --> 00:00:30,880 Speaker 3: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:34,120 Speaker 3: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:34,159 --> 00:00:37,680 Speaker 3: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:53,600 --> 00:00:56,840 Speaker 2: Yet ready to be amazed by the wizard of Weird. 12 00:00:57,400 --> 00:01:08,880 Speaker 2: This is Strange Thing. I am Joshuae you Warren, and 13 00:01:08,959 --> 00:01:11,479 Speaker 2: each week on this show, I'll be bringing you brand 14 00:01:11,520 --> 00:01:17,160 Speaker 2: new mind blowing content, news, exercises, and weird experiments you 15 00:01:17,200 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 2: can do at home, and a lot more on this 16 00:01:21,680 --> 00:01:27,960 Speaker 2: edition of the show. Can you see the matrix with 17 00:01:28,600 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: this new method and fossilized human shoe prints? Question mark 18 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:44,040 Speaker 2: exclamation point? How does it all tie together? Well, we'll 19 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 2: see if we can make it fit Somehow would you 20 00:01:48,880 --> 00:01:51,760 Speaker 2: like to be able to see the matrix with your 21 00:01:51,920 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 2: naked eyes? I'm talking about being able to I don't 22 00:01:54,840 --> 00:01:57,560 Speaker 2: know squinch your eyes in a certain way, and suddenly 23 00:01:57,880 --> 00:02:02,000 Speaker 2: before you you see all around you what looks like 24 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:07,240 Speaker 2: programming codes, zeros and ones, just flowing up and down, 25 00:02:07,320 --> 00:02:11,519 Speaker 2: maybe even side to side, three dimensionally, and you say, 26 00:02:11,600 --> 00:02:14,239 Speaker 2: oh my gosh, I knew it. I can now see 27 00:02:14,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 2: that I am immersed within some kind of a large 28 00:02:18,960 --> 00:02:24,000 Speaker 2: holographic system. This is a big Holi deck straight out 29 00:02:24,000 --> 00:02:28,000 Speaker 2: of Star Trek, and I am I am part of 30 00:02:28,360 --> 00:02:33,720 Speaker 2: a computer program. And who knows exactly who the programmer is? 31 00:02:33,760 --> 00:02:37,520 Speaker 2: I guess that's what one might call God. On the 32 00:02:37,560 --> 00:02:40,920 Speaker 2: other hand, maybe it's much more complex than that. Well, 33 00:02:42,040 --> 00:02:44,360 Speaker 2: we're going to get into that in a minute, because 34 00:02:44,440 --> 00:02:47,000 Speaker 2: there is a There are people out there right now, 35 00:02:47,000 --> 00:02:50,040 Speaker 2: maybe you've seen this, who are saying that they have 36 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,880 Speaker 2: been able to achieve this, And I'm going to tell 37 00:02:52,919 --> 00:02:55,840 Speaker 2: you what they are doing and what they are claiming 38 00:02:55,840 --> 00:02:59,560 Speaker 2: that they are seeing. But first off, let me take 39 00:02:59,600 --> 00:03:02,000 Speaker 2: a moment just to ask you sort of like if 40 00:03:02,040 --> 00:03:06,320 Speaker 2: you could, if you could see the matrix like that, 41 00:03:06,360 --> 00:03:08,040 Speaker 2: do you think that that would help you make your 42 00:03:08,080 --> 00:03:10,639 Speaker 2: life better or worse? Would it just freak you out 43 00:03:11,360 --> 00:03:14,359 Speaker 2: too much and you'd rather just not know, just be ignorant? 44 00:03:14,960 --> 00:03:17,960 Speaker 2: Or would you like to see it and give yourself 45 00:03:18,080 --> 00:03:21,280 Speaker 2: an opportunity to try to tap in there and do 46 00:03:21,360 --> 00:03:28,040 Speaker 2: some programming hack into reality. And I get so many 47 00:03:28,080 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 2: emails all the time, as you know, from people who 48 00:03:31,080 --> 00:03:36,080 Speaker 2: share some of their deepest thoughts with me. And I 49 00:03:36,160 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 2: get a fair share of emails from people who say 50 00:03:38,720 --> 00:03:42,000 Speaker 2: they're really frightened right now about just the state of 51 00:03:42,040 --> 00:03:46,680 Speaker 2: the world and where everything is heading. And you know, 52 00:03:46,920 --> 00:03:50,200 Speaker 2: I understand people have always sort of felt that way though. 53 00:03:50,240 --> 00:03:52,840 Speaker 2: I mean, if you think things are bad, for example, 54 00:03:52,960 --> 00:03:55,560 Speaker 2: right now here in the United States, well don't forget 55 00:03:55,560 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 2: about a time called the Civil War when for years, 56 00:03:58,760 --> 00:04:01,400 Speaker 2: hundreds of thousands of Americas we're doing their best to 57 00:04:01,480 --> 00:04:04,080 Speaker 2: slaughter each other every day. I mean, like we've had 58 00:04:04,080 --> 00:04:09,840 Speaker 2: some pretty dark times in this country. And you know, 59 00:04:10,080 --> 00:04:15,080 Speaker 2: people are often saying, I have a problem with how 60 00:04:15,120 --> 00:04:18,960 Speaker 2: this politician or that politician is doing things. And that's good. 61 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:23,200 Speaker 2: The price of freedom is eternal vigilance. I think that 62 00:04:23,480 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 2: Jefferson said something like that, it's good to stay on 63 00:04:26,360 --> 00:04:29,640 Speaker 2: top of it, but also you can waste your time 64 00:04:29,720 --> 00:04:31,719 Speaker 2: a little bit and not look at things from the 65 00:04:31,760 --> 00:04:34,240 Speaker 2: proper point of view. Let me explain what I mean 66 00:04:34,279 --> 00:04:37,800 Speaker 2: by this. It reminds me of this Greek story, an 67 00:04:37,839 --> 00:04:42,400 Speaker 2: ancient Greek story about the sword of Damocles, you know 68 00:04:42,480 --> 00:04:50,400 Speaker 2: this one. So basically, Damocles was what was called a courtier, 69 00:04:50,560 --> 00:04:54,800 Speaker 2: or he was he was sort of an advisor to 70 00:04:54,960 --> 00:05:00,880 Speaker 2: a king in the king's royal court. And the king, 71 00:05:01,000 --> 00:05:06,200 Speaker 2: who is considered a tyrant, was named Dionysius. So Damocles 72 00:05:06,880 --> 00:05:09,320 Speaker 2: is in the court and he's an advisor to the 73 00:05:09,480 --> 00:05:16,040 Speaker 2: tyrant king, Dionysus. But Damocles is always kissing up to 74 00:05:16,560 --> 00:05:19,840 Speaker 2: the king and telling him about, oh, how great it 75 00:05:19,960 --> 00:05:22,440 Speaker 2: must be to be a king, and how fortunate you are, 76 00:05:22,520 --> 00:05:27,680 Speaker 2: and how wonderful, how blessed you are, and and how 77 00:05:27,720 --> 00:05:33,280 Speaker 2: smart you are. And he's just constantly praising the luxurious 78 00:05:33,320 --> 00:05:38,159 Speaker 2: life of Dionysus. And after a while, the king gets 79 00:05:38,360 --> 00:05:44,320 Speaker 2: annoyed with this flattery, and so he decides to hold 80 00:05:44,360 --> 00:05:50,679 Speaker 2: a lavish banquet and he calls Dionysus and he says, Dionysus, 81 00:05:51,480 --> 00:05:54,440 Speaker 2: I tell you what, for all of your assistance to me, 82 00:05:55,200 --> 00:05:59,280 Speaker 2: we are going to trade places for an evening, and 83 00:05:59,320 --> 00:06:02,039 Speaker 2: you are going to be able to sit in the 84 00:06:02,160 --> 00:06:05,280 Speaker 2: king's seat at the banquet, so you can have an 85 00:06:05,320 --> 00:06:08,400 Speaker 2: idea of what it's like to be a man with 86 00:06:08,480 --> 00:06:12,280 Speaker 2: this kind of power, and so of course Damocles has overcome. 87 00:06:13,080 --> 00:06:18,120 Speaker 2: He happily takes the seat and he's sitting there feasting away, 88 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,560 Speaker 2: and at some point during his meal, he happens to 89 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:26,000 Speaker 2: look up and realize that there is a razor sharp 90 00:06:26,200 --> 00:06:33,279 Speaker 2: sword that is hanging directly above his head, and it's 91 00:06:33,320 --> 00:06:41,080 Speaker 2: held there only by a single horse hair. So it 92 00:06:41,120 --> 00:06:43,720 Speaker 2: takes him a second to realize there is this sword 93 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:46,720 Speaker 2: over my head with a horse hair holding it. At 94 00:06:46,720 --> 00:06:49,560 Speaker 2: any moment, a million things could happen. The wind could 95 00:06:49,560 --> 00:06:52,760 Speaker 2: blow the wrong way, somebody could come up and cut 96 00:06:52,800 --> 00:06:58,159 Speaker 2: that thing there, and boom he's toast. So at this 97 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:04,120 Speaker 2: point Damocles suddenly he realizes there is an imminent threat, 98 00:07:05,160 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 2: and he immediately jumps up out of the seat and says, no, please, king, 99 00:07:08,880 --> 00:07:12,080 Speaker 2: You know, I'm happy with my old life. And the 100 00:07:12,160 --> 00:07:16,120 Speaker 2: lesson here is that he realizes that power and luxury 101 00:07:17,120 --> 00:07:20,240 Speaker 2: and this thing, this thing that we associate with some 102 00:07:20,320 --> 00:07:23,239 Speaker 2: of these leaders and politicians, is not what it's always 103 00:07:23,240 --> 00:07:27,080 Speaker 2: cracked cracked up to be, and that you know, what 104 00:07:27,120 --> 00:07:31,000 Speaker 2: they get in return is they live in constant fear anxiety, 105 00:07:32,200 --> 00:07:35,400 Speaker 2: and so the sort of damocles it symbolizes this impending 106 00:07:35,480 --> 00:07:42,560 Speaker 2: disaster or a looming threat, representing the the inherent perils 107 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:45,720 Speaker 2: of being in powerful positions. And so you have to 108 00:07:45,760 --> 00:07:51,800 Speaker 2: ask yourself before you start being too critical of how 109 00:07:51,960 --> 00:07:57,360 Speaker 2: politicians handle things, whether or not you would want that job. Okay, 110 00:07:57,560 --> 00:08:00,200 Speaker 2: So it just it just reminds me of that when 111 00:08:01,320 --> 00:08:04,240 Speaker 2: when people email me these types of messages. And I 112 00:08:04,240 --> 00:08:07,960 Speaker 2: think it's important to think about because you know, some 113 00:08:08,000 --> 00:08:11,200 Speaker 2: people say life is short, some people say life is long, 114 00:08:12,120 --> 00:08:15,560 Speaker 2: but you may as well enjoy as much of it 115 00:08:15,600 --> 00:08:18,720 Speaker 2: as you can. You know. I think a lot of 116 00:08:18,760 --> 00:08:22,760 Speaker 2: people have lost someone recently. I've been hearing about a 117 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:27,280 Speaker 2: lot of different loss and I want to tell you 118 00:08:27,280 --> 00:08:31,600 Speaker 2: this just as an interesting little celebrity story that I've 119 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:36,880 Speaker 2: probably never talked about before that you might appreciate, because 120 00:08:38,679 --> 00:08:45,079 Speaker 2: Gil Gerard recently died, and Gil Gerard played Buck Rogers 121 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:54,600 Speaker 2: on television and he was let's see, he was eighty 122 00:08:56,400 --> 00:09:01,000 Speaker 2: two years old, and I don't know exactly what he 123 00:09:01,440 --> 00:09:05,720 Speaker 2: died from. I'm not sure that they've actually said, okay, 124 00:09:05,760 --> 00:09:09,359 Speaker 2: that's right here. It is a rare and viciously aggressive 125 00:09:09,400 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: form of cancer. So it doesn't say specifically, but my 126 00:09:13,880 --> 00:09:17,360 Speaker 2: understanding is that, like, you know, he was told he 127 00:09:17,400 --> 00:09:20,400 Speaker 2: had cancer and then within days he was dead. It 128 00:09:20,520 --> 00:09:23,840 Speaker 2: was like one of those things. But I bring this 129 00:09:23,960 --> 00:09:30,040 Speaker 2: up because back in around twenty years ago, over twenty 130 00:09:30,080 --> 00:09:33,080 Speaker 2: years ago, I was working on a television program with 131 00:09:33,520 --> 00:09:36,800 Speaker 2: a director named Jim Castle. And Jim had worked on 132 00:09:36,840 --> 00:09:40,199 Speaker 2: The X Files and he had worked on Cheers and 133 00:09:40,240 --> 00:09:41,960 Speaker 2: a lot of big stuff like that, and he was 134 00:09:42,360 --> 00:09:46,120 Speaker 2: a fan of my show. And so maybe around like 135 00:09:46,120 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 2: two thousand and eight something like that, he and I 136 00:09:49,880 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 2: were talking and I mentioned to him that when I 137 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:54,960 Speaker 2: was a kid, I loved the TV show Buck Rogers. 138 00:09:55,920 --> 00:09:58,439 Speaker 2: And I mean, did you ever watch that show? I 139 00:09:58,840 --> 00:10:02,600 Speaker 2: used to actually dress up and play Buck Rogers. And 140 00:10:02,640 --> 00:10:04,840 Speaker 2: I know you if you might be like you like 141 00:10:04,960 --> 00:10:08,000 Speaker 2: Buck Rogers? What are you? Were born in nineteen twenty five? 142 00:10:10,040 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 2: Were you into Howdie Duty? Also, it's like, no, I mean, 143 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:17,000 Speaker 2: I'm gonna be fifty years old this year, and uh, 144 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,880 Speaker 2: Buck Rogers came out originally, that show in like nineteen 145 00:10:21,000 --> 00:10:25,080 Speaker 2: seventy eight, seventy nine something like that. So yeah, I 146 00:10:25,160 --> 00:10:27,199 Speaker 2: was a kid and I would dress up in the 147 00:10:27,280 --> 00:10:29,360 Speaker 2: later when my sister was born. You know, we would 148 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 2: dress up and take cardboard boxes and make a little 149 00:10:31,440 --> 00:10:35,480 Speaker 2: space ships and we would play like Buck Rogers. So anyway, 150 00:10:36,080 --> 00:10:40,240 Speaker 2: I tell you this because and by the way, that 151 00:10:40,360 --> 00:10:47,520 Speaker 2: theme music d d d du du du dud a 152 00:10:47,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 2: little and had that basic on our boot but do 153 00:10:52,640 --> 00:10:54,360 Speaker 2: you boom boom? But do you do you boot boom? 154 00:10:54,640 --> 00:10:57,240 Speaker 2: Used to love that music. And I actually interviewed a 155 00:10:57,280 --> 00:11:01,160 Speaker 2: man named Stu Phillips one time who was a composer, 156 00:11:01,440 --> 00:11:04,959 Speaker 2: and I believe that he not only worked some on that, 157 00:11:05,120 --> 00:11:08,920 Speaker 2: but he was the guy who solely composed the music 158 00:11:08,960 --> 00:11:12,120 Speaker 2: to the Night Writer TV show. Anyway, I have too 159 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 2: many side notes and offshoots. So anyway, around twenty two 160 00:11:16,320 --> 00:11:19,800 Speaker 2: thousand and eight, my friend Jim Castle, he said, oh, well, 161 00:11:20,000 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 2: you're into Buck Rogers. He says, I know Gil Gerard. 162 00:11:23,760 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 2: Would you like to interview him on your show? He'd 163 00:11:27,200 --> 00:11:30,200 Speaker 2: probably be happy to do it. And I said, oh yeah, 164 00:11:30,360 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: you kidded me absolutely, So I got in touch with 165 00:11:34,120 --> 00:11:37,760 Speaker 2: Guil Gerard. And when we come back from this break, 166 00:11:37,800 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you what happened about, you know, 167 00:11:40,559 --> 00:11:43,920 Speaker 2: my interaction with Gil Gerard. It's just and then then 168 00:11:43,960 --> 00:11:48,720 Speaker 2: we'll get into the main topic here can you see 169 00:11:48,800 --> 00:11:51,280 Speaker 2: the matrix with this new method? 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I am your host, 212 00:14:44,480 --> 00:14:48,600 Speaker 2: the Wizard of Weird, Joshua P. Warren, beaming into your 213 00:14:48,600 --> 00:14:53,680 Speaker 2: wormhole brain from my studio in Sin City, Las Vegas, Nevada, 214 00:14:53,840 --> 00:14:56,920 Speaker 2: where every day is golden and every night is silver. 215 00:14:57,840 --> 00:15:04,480 Speaker 2: Giato zoom. And you know, when Gil Gerard was about 216 00:15:04,520 --> 00:15:10,280 Speaker 2: sixty years old, he was he was extremely unhealthy, extremely overweight, 217 00:15:11,040 --> 00:15:16,960 Speaker 2: and he underwent gastric bypass surgery and they did a special, 218 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,840 Speaker 2: a whole TV show about it on I think it 219 00:15:19,840 --> 00:15:23,240 Speaker 2: was maybe Discovery Health or one of those channels, and 220 00:15:23,560 --> 00:15:25,640 Speaker 2: that just did wonders for him. And so when I 221 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:29,160 Speaker 2: met him, actually, well when I first started talking to him, 222 00:15:30,160 --> 00:15:32,360 Speaker 2: he was, I guess, like in his early sixties and 223 00:15:32,400 --> 00:15:34,600 Speaker 2: he had like this whole new lease on life. And 224 00:15:35,280 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 2: so he came on to my show, which at that 225 00:15:38,080 --> 00:15:41,520 Speaker 2: time was called Speaking of Strange. It was a live 226 00:15:41,720 --> 00:15:45,880 Speaker 2: radio program that I broadcast from Asheville, North Carolina, every 227 00:15:45,880 --> 00:15:49,200 Speaker 2: Saturday night for three hours. He came on and he 228 00:15:49,360 --> 00:15:52,120 Speaker 2: was great, you know, which he just was. He phoned 229 00:15:52,160 --> 00:15:55,160 Speaker 2: in and I interviewed him for at least an hour, 230 00:15:56,000 --> 00:15:59,800 Speaker 2: and we had wonderful conversation. It was like, it was 231 00:15:59,840 --> 00:16:03,080 Speaker 2: an amazing to talk to this guy who played this 232 00:16:03,240 --> 00:16:07,320 Speaker 2: on screen hero that impressed me enough when I was 233 00:16:07,360 --> 00:16:09,240 Speaker 2: a kid, you know that I would I would I 234 00:16:09,240 --> 00:16:14,400 Speaker 2: would emulate that, you know, with childhood role play, but 235 00:16:15,400 --> 00:16:17,640 Speaker 2: is very charismatic. And after that he and I started 236 00:16:17,680 --> 00:16:21,640 Speaker 2: talking some just you know, privately on the phone. The 237 00:16:21,680 --> 00:16:25,640 Speaker 2: first thing that I was surprised by was that, you know, 238 00:16:25,680 --> 00:16:28,520 Speaker 2: he always came across very debonair as a character. He 239 00:16:28,600 --> 00:16:31,480 Speaker 2: was great at acting that way, but when you started 240 00:16:31,520 --> 00:16:36,400 Speaker 2: talking to him in person, he actually he was born 241 00:16:36,440 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 2: in Arkansas, and he just kind of considered himself a 242 00:16:39,280 --> 00:16:42,200 Speaker 2: good old boy and he was proud of that. And 243 00:16:42,240 --> 00:16:45,200 Speaker 2: he liked to talk about hunting and fishing and going 244 00:16:45,280 --> 00:16:48,320 Speaker 2: out and doing you know, country things. And he had 245 00:16:48,360 --> 00:16:53,320 Speaker 2: a lot of strong political opinions that I think were 246 00:16:53,520 --> 00:16:58,960 Speaker 2: probably not very popular in Hollywood, which may explain why 247 00:16:59,000 --> 00:17:01,400 Speaker 2: that some of his works or to dwindle over the years. 248 00:17:02,680 --> 00:17:08,800 Speaker 2: He also was would use surprisingly coarse language sometimes even 249 00:17:08,840 --> 00:17:12,400 Speaker 2: with people he didn't know very well. And trust me, look, 250 00:17:12,640 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 2: look I got a dirty mouth, so but I'm just 251 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:18,120 Speaker 2: saying like I'm usually a little bit more careful about it. 252 00:17:18,160 --> 00:17:22,200 Speaker 2: And he just seemed to like be okay with using 253 00:17:22,240 --> 00:17:24,800 Speaker 2: some some I mean, I could tell you some stories, 254 00:17:24,840 --> 00:17:28,320 Speaker 2: but obviously, you know I can't use those kinds of 255 00:17:28,320 --> 00:17:30,639 Speaker 2: words on the air. So you never knew what you 256 00:17:30,640 --> 00:17:33,119 Speaker 2: were going to get with him. But it was so 257 00:17:33,200 --> 00:17:35,159 Speaker 2: fun interviewing him that it became a little bit of 258 00:17:35,200 --> 00:17:37,280 Speaker 2: a tradition, like at least for two or three years, 259 00:17:37,560 --> 00:17:40,680 Speaker 2: I would interview him in January. And finally I talked 260 00:17:40,680 --> 00:17:43,080 Speaker 2: to him on the phone just privately, and I said, 261 00:17:43,119 --> 00:17:45,080 Speaker 2: you know, I have this script for this movie called 262 00:17:45,119 --> 00:17:49,160 Speaker 2: Shelton Marl Massacre, about this incident that happened in North 263 00:17:49,160 --> 00:17:53,160 Speaker 2: Carolina during the Civil War. I'm interested in producing it. 264 00:17:53,240 --> 00:17:55,919 Speaker 2: Would you be interested in and acting in it, you know, 265 00:17:55,960 --> 00:17:59,600 Speaker 2: even starring in it? And he said absolutely. So one night, 266 00:18:01,400 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 2: Lauren and I drove down to Atlanta, Georgia, which is 267 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:11,480 Speaker 2: where he lived, and Uh I finished doing a show 268 00:18:11,560 --> 00:18:13,640 Speaker 2: I think it was I finished on a Saturday at 269 00:18:13,640 --> 00:18:15,480 Speaker 2: like midnight or something, and then we got in the 270 00:18:15,480 --> 00:18:17,879 Speaker 2: car and we arrived right in the middle of the 271 00:18:17,960 --> 00:18:21,880 Speaker 2: night in uh In Georgia. I got to the hotel room, 272 00:18:21,880 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 2: there was a big banner welcome Joshua Pee Warren and 273 00:18:24,440 --> 00:18:29,399 Speaker 2: there was chocolates and all these different treats, and to 274 00:18:29,440 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 2: this day, I think he must have arranged that, but 275 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:34,560 Speaker 2: I don't know. So anyway, the following day, Lauren and 276 00:18:34,640 --> 00:18:37,760 Speaker 2: I we went to an Applebee's and we were sitting 277 00:18:37,760 --> 00:18:40,320 Speaker 2: there at the table and look up and lo and behold, 278 00:18:40,359 --> 00:18:44,640 Speaker 2: here comes Buck Rogers. And he walks in, sits down, 279 00:18:44,720 --> 00:18:47,320 Speaker 2: and it's just the three of us, and uh, we 280 00:18:47,359 --> 00:18:50,480 Speaker 2: had had a great conversation. You know. As a matter 281 00:18:50,520 --> 00:18:54,760 Speaker 2: of fact, he said, one thing that was very interesting 282 00:18:54,760 --> 00:18:56,560 Speaker 2: to me is because I was fascinated with how his 283 00:18:56,600 --> 00:18:59,560 Speaker 2: career developed. Obviously, we have a lot to talk about 284 00:18:59,560 --> 00:19:01,919 Speaker 2: in this show, and this story is getting too long already, 285 00:19:01,920 --> 00:19:04,520 Speaker 2: but what I will tell you is he said, well, 286 00:19:04,600 --> 00:19:07,960 Speaker 2: you know, for a little while, I was a movie star, 287 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: not just a TV star. And I said, oh, is 288 00:19:10,600 --> 00:19:12,720 Speaker 2: that right, and he says yeah. He said when Buck 289 00:19:12,840 --> 00:19:16,080 Speaker 2: Rogers originally came out, he says, it was originally at 290 00:19:16,119 --> 00:19:18,000 Speaker 2: the movies on the big screen, and it was a 291 00:19:18,000 --> 00:19:20,760 Speaker 2: big hit, and I was a movie star, and then 292 00:19:21,080 --> 00:19:23,160 Speaker 2: all of a sudden, you know, I'm a TV star 293 00:19:23,240 --> 00:19:27,040 Speaker 2: because nobody remembers that I was a movie star. He 294 00:19:27,080 --> 00:19:31,000 Speaker 2: was very upset about that. But anyway, so we decided 295 00:19:31,040 --> 00:19:33,680 Speaker 2: to start we were going to start pursuing this, and 296 00:19:33,880 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 2: I started helping him out with his website, The design 297 00:19:38,359 --> 00:19:42,160 Speaker 2: Mobius helped him out with that, and we had made 298 00:19:42,200 --> 00:19:45,439 Speaker 2: some possible plans for him to come to Asheville and 299 00:19:45,480 --> 00:19:48,240 Speaker 2: do like a personal appearance. But the fact of the 300 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: matter is I came to find that he was very, 301 00:19:51,600 --> 00:19:54,480 Speaker 2: very suspicious of any kind of a business deal, and 302 00:19:54,520 --> 00:19:56,400 Speaker 2: I think that's because he always thought that he got 303 00:19:56,480 --> 00:19:59,520 Speaker 2: kind of screwed over by Hollywood, and he became more 304 00:19:59,560 --> 00:20:03,639 Speaker 2: and more difficult to work with, and so eventually, I 305 00:20:03,920 --> 00:20:05,960 Speaker 2: can't remember exactly what happened, but we just sort of 306 00:20:06,000 --> 00:20:08,919 Speaker 2: parted ways, which was it was sad. But on the 307 00:20:08,920 --> 00:20:11,040 Speaker 2: other hand, I mean, like what I can tell you 308 00:20:11,119 --> 00:20:14,240 Speaker 2: is he was a very complicated man. He could be 309 00:20:14,320 --> 00:20:18,560 Speaker 2: a very charming, warm individual. That's why he was a celebrity, 310 00:20:18,800 --> 00:20:21,359 Speaker 2: but then he could turn around and he could be 311 00:20:21,800 --> 00:20:26,080 Speaker 2: vicious also sometimes and kind of overreact to things. So 312 00:20:27,920 --> 00:20:29,760 Speaker 2: you know, he was he was kind of a tragic 313 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:33,800 Speaker 2: figure in that sense, I believe, but I also hope 314 00:20:33,840 --> 00:20:36,879 Speaker 2: that he had, you know, an enjoyable life. Heck, like 315 00:20:36,920 --> 00:20:39,919 Speaker 2: I say, he was eighty two years old, and I 316 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:42,080 Speaker 2: sure enjoyed meeting him. You know, they say don't ever 317 00:20:42,119 --> 00:20:45,560 Speaker 2: meet your hero as well. I don't entirely agree with that, 318 00:20:46,560 --> 00:20:49,160 Speaker 2: because I'm glad that I met him, and I wish 319 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:51,960 Speaker 2: him well and I thank him for all the the 320 00:20:52,359 --> 00:20:55,600 Speaker 2: just well the friendship and also just you know, coming 321 00:20:55,600 --> 00:20:58,200 Speaker 2: onto my show for years and being such a great guest. 322 00:20:58,320 --> 00:21:03,840 Speaker 2: So hopefully, oh Buck Rogers is out there really really 323 00:21:03,880 --> 00:21:07,520 Speaker 2: exploring the stars now, huh? Gil Gerard, how about that? 324 00:21:07,880 --> 00:21:13,360 Speaker 2: Born January twenty third, nineteen forty three in Little Rought, 325 00:21:13,440 --> 00:21:17,159 Speaker 2: Arkansas and then died there in Georgia December sixteenth of 326 00:21:17,240 --> 00:21:21,960 Speaker 2: twenty twenty five. You know, it's funny I was speaking of, 327 00:21:22,000 --> 00:21:26,120 Speaker 2: like your heroes and all that. You know, Thomas Edison, 328 00:21:26,359 --> 00:21:32,720 Speaker 2: the Great Inventor, was dear friends with Henry Ford. Those 329 00:21:32,760 --> 00:21:35,280 Speaker 2: guys they would travel all the time all over the 330 00:21:35,320 --> 00:21:38,800 Speaker 2: place together, and they would go to the Grove Park 331 00:21:38,840 --> 00:21:45,480 Speaker 2: Inn in Asheville and vacation together. And Henry Ford especially 332 00:21:45,600 --> 00:21:50,119 Speaker 2: just sort of idolized Thomas Edison's talent. And who wouldn't. 333 00:21:50,119 --> 00:21:53,600 Speaker 2: I mean, Edison was one of the most profound geniuses 334 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:59,840 Speaker 2: who has ever lived. And so when in nineteen thirty 335 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:07,400 Speaker 2: one one, Edison was dying of complications from diabetes. And 336 00:22:07,440 --> 00:22:10,600 Speaker 2: it was pretty apparent to everybody that the Edison was 337 00:22:10,720 --> 00:22:14,159 Speaker 2: dying because Edison was an old man. Let's see how 338 00:22:14,160 --> 00:22:18,439 Speaker 2: old was Thomas Edison at this point, uh, when he 339 00:22:18,520 --> 00:22:20,400 Speaker 2: was on his way out. So he was born in 340 00:22:20,440 --> 00:22:24,719 Speaker 2: eighteen forty seven. He died nineteen thirty one, so that 341 00:22:24,720 --> 00:22:27,600 Speaker 2: made him eighty four. So yeah, you know, again a 342 00:22:27,680 --> 00:22:29,600 Speaker 2: guy with a long life. But as he was on 343 00:22:29,640 --> 00:22:38,480 Speaker 2: his deathbed, Henry Ford contacted Thomas Edison's son, Charles, and 344 00:22:38,560 --> 00:22:44,160 Speaker 2: Henry Ford made this very strange request. He said, Charles, 345 00:22:45,000 --> 00:22:49,560 Speaker 2: will you do me a favor? Will you take a 346 00:22:49,760 --> 00:22:55,280 Speaker 2: rack of test tubes and just put them open test tubes, 347 00:22:55,880 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 2: just put them right there on the bedside, next to 348 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:07,359 Speaker 2: Tom and capture his last breath. And Charles said he 349 00:23:07,400 --> 00:23:11,200 Speaker 2: would do it. I'm sure enough. Those vials were there 350 00:23:11,240 --> 00:23:15,480 Speaker 2: when Thomas Edison took his last breath. Charles was prepared. 351 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:19,479 Speaker 2: He immediately sealed them all up with paraffin wax and 352 00:23:19,520 --> 00:23:25,840 Speaker 2: then he sent one to Henry Ford. And to this day, 353 00:23:25,920 --> 00:23:30,280 Speaker 2: if you go to the Henry Ford Museum in Dearborn, Michigan, 354 00:23:31,600 --> 00:23:34,359 Speaker 2: there is one of their most famous displays. It's a 355 00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:37,760 Speaker 2: test tube sitting right there, and it is the test 356 00:23:37,800 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 2: tube that contains Thomas Edison's last breath. You know, I 357 00:23:44,800 --> 00:23:47,240 Speaker 2: don't know where the other ones are. I was trying 358 00:23:47,240 --> 00:23:49,119 Speaker 2: to find out. I didn't look too deeply, but it 359 00:23:49,440 --> 00:23:51,560 Speaker 2: seems like that maybe the rest of them ended up 360 00:23:52,040 --> 00:23:55,480 Speaker 2: with the Edison estate. Boy, if any of you ever 361 00:23:55,560 --> 00:24:00,480 Speaker 2: find one of those, an actual example of, you know, 362 00:24:00,520 --> 00:24:03,439 Speaker 2: one of those test tubes with Edison's last breath, I 363 00:24:03,480 --> 00:24:07,680 Speaker 2: think that would look awfully nice in my collection. Oh well, 364 00:24:10,119 --> 00:24:13,679 Speaker 2: what do you think about this idea though, that people 365 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:17,560 Speaker 2: are just a bit of information that when you die, 366 00:24:17,600 --> 00:24:21,080 Speaker 2: you don't really die, that you just sort of you 367 00:24:21,200 --> 00:24:29,800 Speaker 2: transmit yourself onto some other place in space time. Well, 368 00:24:29,800 --> 00:24:32,800 Speaker 2: recently people have been contacting me and saying, have you 369 00:24:32,800 --> 00:24:38,119 Speaker 2: heard about this method that you can use supposedly to 370 00:24:38,160 --> 00:24:40,560 Speaker 2: see the matrix with your neked eyes. All you need 371 00:24:40,640 --> 00:24:48,520 Speaker 2: is a laser and some drugs. And I'm not joking there. 372 00:24:48,800 --> 00:24:54,920 Speaker 2: Apparently this started becoming popularized by a guy, and I 373 00:24:54,960 --> 00:24:58,320 Speaker 2: don't want to use his name, but by a guy 374 00:24:58,440 --> 00:25:03,080 Speaker 2: who U claim that he had been taking DMT for 375 00:25:03,240 --> 00:25:10,399 Speaker 2: years and that that Okay, let me first, let me 376 00:25:10,440 --> 00:25:12,080 Speaker 2: I guess I should pause and say, like, there are 377 00:25:12,080 --> 00:25:14,320 Speaker 2: a lot of different people from different backgrounds who listen 378 00:25:14,400 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 2: to this show, and not everybody knows what DMT is. 379 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:25,440 Speaker 2: DMT dimethyl trip to mean is a hallucinogenic psychedelic drug, 380 00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,320 Speaker 2: and I've never taken it, so all I can do 381 00:25:29,400 --> 00:25:31,959 Speaker 2: is tell you what I am reading about it. It 382 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:38,080 Speaker 2: has this rapid onset, intense effects, and a relatively short 383 00:25:38,200 --> 00:25:45,960 Speaker 2: duration or action, a duration of action, and for those reasons, 384 00:25:46,040 --> 00:25:51,359 Speaker 2: DMT was known during the nineteen sixties as the businessman's 385 00:25:51,359 --> 00:25:56,480 Speaker 2: trip because he could have a full depth psychedelic experience 386 00:25:56,600 --> 00:26:01,000 Speaker 2: in less time than using other substances. When we come back, 387 00:26:01,040 --> 00:26:04,199 Speaker 2: I'm going to tell you more about this methodology and 388 00:26:04,240 --> 00:26:08,600 Speaker 2: what I think of it. You take this drug and 389 00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,720 Speaker 2: then you take a laser. I'll explain best I can, 390 00:26:11,760 --> 00:26:15,440 Speaker 2: and we'll see what how legit this is. I'm Joshua P. 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I'm your host, 411 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:39,480 Speaker 2: Joshua P. Warren, and this is the show where the 412 00:28:39,680 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 2: unusual becomes usual. You know, I just realized it's time 413 00:28:46,040 --> 00:28:51,840 Speaker 2: for a Buck Rogers reboot. Maybe I should be in 414 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:54,680 Speaker 2: charge of that. I need to buy the rights to 415 00:28:54,720 --> 00:28:59,200 Speaker 2: Buck Rogers. If any of you big film producers out 416 00:28:59,200 --> 00:29:01,560 Speaker 2: there want to work with me to make the new 417 00:29:01,640 --> 00:29:07,640 Speaker 2: Buck Rogers or to make finally a movie from my 418 00:29:07,760 --> 00:29:12,120 Speaker 2: script for the Shelton Laurel Massacre, which I actually own. 419 00:29:14,160 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 2: Just contact me, all right, So d MT uh de 420 00:29:20,040 --> 00:29:23,600 Speaker 2: mythyl trip the methyl trip to me? And I've heard 421 00:29:23,640 --> 00:29:27,360 Speaker 2: about this for years. So okay, look, who can describe 422 00:29:27,400 --> 00:29:33,680 Speaker 2: what what a psychedelic experience is like? Like? It doesn't matter. Everybody. 423 00:29:34,680 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 2: Everybody can can try in his or her own words, 424 00:29:38,080 --> 00:29:41,480 Speaker 2: who has had one. But you know, all I can 425 00:29:41,520 --> 00:29:46,440 Speaker 2: tell you is that this DMT is illegal. For one thing. 426 00:29:48,680 --> 00:29:52,000 Speaker 2: They say that it does occur in its most basic 427 00:29:52,080 --> 00:29:57,239 Speaker 2: form naturally in many plants and animals. In fact, if 428 00:29:57,280 --> 00:30:00,240 Speaker 2: you go and look at the history of it, say, 429 00:30:00,320 --> 00:30:05,920 Speaker 2: DMT derived from plant based sources and has been used 430 00:30:05,960 --> 00:30:09,600 Speaker 2: as some kind of a ritualistic psychedelic in South America 431 00:30:09,720 --> 00:30:12,840 Speaker 2: for thousands of years, and then it was first synthesized 432 00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:18,360 Speaker 2: in a turn into a real condensed chemical in nineteen 433 00:30:18,440 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 2: thirty one by a Canadian chemist. And so some people 434 00:30:23,880 --> 00:30:28,160 Speaker 2: they say they've taken thousands of these DMT trips, and 435 00:30:28,200 --> 00:30:31,360 Speaker 2: they say they're totally fine. But look, I don't know. Again, 436 00:30:31,440 --> 00:30:34,560 Speaker 2: I'm I've never taken it. I have no desire to 437 00:30:34,600 --> 00:30:41,520 Speaker 2: take it. But the story is that started a few 438 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:45,000 Speaker 2: years ago that's been gaining steam, is that there was 439 00:30:45,040 --> 00:30:48,880 Speaker 2: there's this one fella who discovered that if you take 440 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,320 Speaker 2: one of these hits of DMT and then you take 441 00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 2: a laser. Okay, so what we're talking about here is 442 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:02,320 Speaker 2: just like a basic six hundred fifty nanometer red laser 443 00:31:02,400 --> 00:31:06,720 Speaker 2: pointer and you just turn that laser on and leave 444 00:31:06,760 --> 00:31:10,600 Speaker 2: it on in a big straight line in a dim room. 445 00:31:11,160 --> 00:31:13,480 Speaker 2: You can get right up there close to it, maybe 446 00:31:13,720 --> 00:31:16,440 Speaker 2: a few inches away from it. This is my understanding now. 447 00:31:16,840 --> 00:31:20,160 Speaker 2: And you look into that beam and that is where 448 00:31:20,200 --> 00:31:26,200 Speaker 2: you will see the matrix rolling by this cascade of symbols, 449 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:31,080 Speaker 2: these characters in this you know, you know what I'm 450 00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 2: talking about, like the matrix style green code and it 451 00:31:35,640 --> 00:31:40,600 Speaker 2: kind of emerges from the laser sparkle. And so some 452 00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 2: would think of it as being a divine code. And 453 00:31:43,760 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 2: I have talked to people who have seen things that 454 00:31:46,520 --> 00:31:51,440 Speaker 2: look like computer symbols or computer avatars and stuff like 455 00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:54,480 Speaker 2: that floating in the air before. I don't want to 456 00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:57,120 Speaker 2: get into that right now, but I mean I've heard that. 457 00:31:58,600 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 2: And they are a video as you can find from 458 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 2: people sitting there and they're staring at a laser and 459 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:07,280 Speaker 2: they're like, whoa, this is trippy, and they start talking 460 00:32:07,320 --> 00:32:11,320 Speaker 2: about seeing all these things. And so there's this phenomenon 461 00:32:11,400 --> 00:32:14,400 Speaker 2: out there of you know, of people who are saying 462 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:16,560 Speaker 2: you can use this to see the matrix. And so 463 00:32:16,640 --> 00:32:18,360 Speaker 2: people have been asking me what I think about it, 464 00:32:18,400 --> 00:32:24,760 Speaker 2: and here's here's the here's the reality. Okay, to do 465 00:32:24,800 --> 00:32:27,480 Speaker 2: this experiment, you would have to do two things that 466 00:32:27,640 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 2: you should not do. Okay. For one thing, you're supposed 467 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:35,640 Speaker 2: to take d MT, which is in most cases an 468 00:32:35,680 --> 00:32:38,040 Speaker 2: illegal drug. I don't know if it's totally illegal everywhere, 469 00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:42,600 Speaker 2: probably not, but you know, in most cases DMT is illegal. 470 00:32:42,680 --> 00:32:47,400 Speaker 2: So you'd have to take an illegal psychedelic drug. And 471 00:32:47,480 --> 00:32:50,160 Speaker 2: the second thing is you'd have to get your eyes 472 00:32:50,400 --> 00:32:55,760 Speaker 2: really close to a laser beam. And I don't see 473 00:32:55,760 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 2: these people wearing safety goggles where they're doing this, by 474 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:01,640 Speaker 2: the way, and I know that you're not like looking 475 00:33:01,680 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 2: directly into the beam, duh. I get that you're like, 476 00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:07,480 Speaker 2: it's it's shooting past you and you're kind of looking 477 00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:11,360 Speaker 2: off to the side. I understand, but still I would 478 00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:15,720 Speaker 2: never recommend to the kindergarteners here to take your DMT 479 00:33:16,680 --> 00:33:19,080 Speaker 2: and then we'll stare at a laser pointer or so 480 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:25,120 Speaker 2: you can see some really cool symbols. So you know, look, 481 00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 2: is there truth to this or not? The fact of 482 00:33:27,800 --> 00:33:32,200 Speaker 2: the matter is there's no way to determine this because 483 00:33:32,200 --> 00:33:35,480 Speaker 2: it is completely subjective at this point. If it were 484 00:33:35,520 --> 00:33:39,920 Speaker 2: possible for a camera to somehow capture this phenomenon, okay, fine, 485 00:33:40,440 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 2: But by subjective, I mean like if you had two 486 00:33:42,760 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 2: different people. Let's say you and I both took DMT 487 00:33:46,160 --> 00:33:48,280 Speaker 2: the same dosage, and we sat down next to each other, 488 00:33:48,360 --> 00:33:50,560 Speaker 2: we turned on the same laser, how we looked at it. 489 00:33:51,000 --> 00:33:53,760 Speaker 2: What if you saw these codes and I didn't, or 490 00:33:53,800 --> 00:33:56,760 Speaker 2: what if we just saw different numbers and letters? You know, well, 491 00:33:56,760 --> 00:34:00,360 Speaker 2: who's right and who's wrong? You know, a hallucination is 492 00:34:00,360 --> 00:34:05,040 Speaker 2: something that comes from within one's own mind. But what 493 00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:07,160 Speaker 2: we're interested in is whether or not there's an actual 494 00:34:07,240 --> 00:34:09,680 Speaker 2: code that we all have in common here in this 495 00:34:09,760 --> 00:34:13,080 Speaker 2: holographic reality. So all I can tell you is that 496 00:34:14,200 --> 00:34:16,600 Speaker 2: this may or may not work for some people. But 497 00:34:16,680 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 2: I do not at all recommend that you do it 498 00:34:19,920 --> 00:34:23,120 Speaker 2: for the reasons I just cited. But you know, it's 499 00:34:23,160 --> 00:34:25,840 Speaker 2: it is an interesting concept. It's something that cannot be 500 00:34:27,160 --> 00:34:32,439 Speaker 2: safely proven or disproven as far as eye can tell. 501 00:34:32,480 --> 00:34:37,600 Speaker 2: But you know, if you could, if you could see 502 00:34:37,760 --> 00:34:40,680 Speaker 2: the code and that and you could not only see it, 503 00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:45,160 Speaker 2: but at that point kind of record it would that 504 00:34:45,320 --> 00:34:50,719 Speaker 2: give you such ability to start tapping into reality that 505 00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:55,920 Speaker 2: you can not only hack your your life path, but 506 00:34:56,120 --> 00:35:01,759 Speaker 2: hack spacetime itself, so so that eventually you could even 507 00:35:01,880 --> 00:35:07,480 Speaker 2: travel through space time. Can humans someday discover this matrix 508 00:35:08,040 --> 00:35:12,400 Speaker 2: and then plug into it and start using it to 509 00:35:12,480 --> 00:35:16,560 Speaker 2: literally travel through time, into the future, into the past. 510 00:35:16,560 --> 00:35:19,319 Speaker 2: And you might say, well, that's a heck of a stretch, Josh, Well, 511 00:35:19,360 --> 00:35:22,400 Speaker 2: well no it's not. No, it's not because if you 512 00:35:22,440 --> 00:35:25,080 Speaker 2: can see a code there, well now you can start 513 00:35:25,120 --> 00:35:27,759 Speaker 2: working with it. You can't really work with something that's invisible. 514 00:35:27,760 --> 00:35:31,000 Speaker 2: It's like trying to fight the invisible man. But if 515 00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,799 Speaker 2: everything is built of this code and you can start 516 00:35:33,840 --> 00:35:39,240 Speaker 2: manipulating it, well, then space and time should also be manipulatable. 517 00:35:40,480 --> 00:35:44,840 Speaker 2: And this is interesting to me because a guy that 518 00:35:44,880 --> 00:35:48,319 Speaker 2: I used to interview from time to time that I 519 00:35:48,360 --> 00:35:50,319 Speaker 2: thought was just one of the best who's ever lived 520 00:35:50,320 --> 00:35:53,359 Speaker 2: when it comes to doing this kind of research, was 521 00:35:53,400 --> 00:35:57,600 Speaker 2: Brad Steiger, super nice, intelligent, warm guy. I never got 522 00:35:57,600 --> 00:36:00,359 Speaker 2: to meet him a person, but we had plenty great 523 00:36:00,360 --> 00:36:05,600 Speaker 2: phone conversations. He wrote this classic book called Mysteries of 524 00:36:05,640 --> 00:36:09,960 Speaker 2: Time and Space. He wrote a lot of books, of course, 525 00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 2: if you know anything about him. I'm holding a copy 526 00:36:13,120 --> 00:36:17,080 Speaker 2: right now of this book in my hands to see. 527 00:36:17,080 --> 00:36:20,360 Speaker 2: This was published in nineteen seventy three. It looks like 528 00:36:22,360 --> 00:36:26,200 Speaker 2: Mysteries of Time and Space by Brad Steiger. One thing 529 00:36:26,239 --> 00:36:28,839 Speaker 2: that I remember being fascinated by when I read this 530 00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:31,760 Speaker 2: is that there is a chapter. It's towards the beginning 531 00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:38,520 Speaker 2: of the book, I guess, and it's called Footprints and 532 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:42,640 Speaker 2: the Sands of Time, And he talks about these cases 533 00:36:43,680 --> 00:36:49,400 Speaker 2: in which supposedly like modern human shoeprints have been found 534 00:36:50,320 --> 00:36:55,879 Speaker 2: fossilized from millions of years ago, and that, in fact, 535 00:36:56,000 --> 00:37:01,480 Speaker 2: one of these even was provable because the footprint included 536 00:37:01,600 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 2: a trillobyte. You know, one of these little little I 537 00:37:05,080 --> 00:37:09,640 Speaker 2: don't know, little bugs or whatever. They were, little arthropods 538 00:37:10,239 --> 00:37:13,400 Speaker 2: that lived back in those days, kind of looked like 539 00:37:13,440 --> 00:37:17,720 Speaker 2: a little what did a trilobit? I guess a snail 540 00:37:17,840 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 2: or something. Look it up. Look up what a trailer 541 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:23,719 Speaker 2: bite is? He wrote in this book he says William J. 542 00:37:24,239 --> 00:37:31,400 Speaker 2: Meister as a supervisor with Hercules Incorporated. He has a 543 00:37:31,440 --> 00:37:36,720 Speaker 2: self described rockhound and a trillobyte collector. On June first, 544 00:37:36,800 --> 00:37:41,640 Speaker 2: nineteen sixty eight, Meister his wife and two daughters together 545 00:37:41,680 --> 00:37:48,040 Speaker 2: with some other couple. They arrived at Antelope Springs, just 546 00:37:48,160 --> 00:37:53,759 Speaker 2: northwest of Delta, Utah. On the third day. While they 547 00:37:53,800 --> 00:37:56,680 Speaker 2: were at their camp, Meister, his wife and their four 548 00:37:56,719 --> 00:38:02,880 Speaker 2: girls found some trilobyte Fossilsbytes, a class of arthropods with shells, 549 00:38:02,920 --> 00:38:07,759 Speaker 2: were among the first marine invertebrates. They lived in the 550 00:38:07,800 --> 00:38:12,880 Speaker 2: Cambrian period of the Paleozoic era. Let's see here because 551 00:38:12,920 --> 00:38:15,680 Speaker 2: that is so. They lived about six hundred million years ago. 552 00:38:16,680 --> 00:38:19,919 Speaker 2: These compact little creatures, with their bodies divided into three 553 00:38:20,040 --> 00:38:23,520 Speaker 2: longitudinal segments, are among the earliest fossils known to man. 554 00:38:23,960 --> 00:38:26,959 Speaker 2: Well Meister broke off a rather large two inch thick 555 00:38:27,040 --> 00:38:30,600 Speaker 2: slab of rock, struck it on the edge with a hammer, 556 00:38:31,040 --> 00:38:33,439 Speaker 2: and in his own words, saw it quote fall open 557 00:38:33,560 --> 00:38:36,360 Speaker 2: like a book, and to his astonishment, he saw quote 558 00:38:36,680 --> 00:38:41,440 Speaker 2: on one side, the footprint of a human with trillobytes 559 00:38:41,520 --> 00:38:45,400 Speaker 2: right in the footprint itself. The other half of the 560 00:38:45,520 --> 00:38:48,640 Speaker 2: rock slab showed an almost perfect mold of the footprint 561 00:38:48,680 --> 00:38:52,560 Speaker 2: and fossils. Amazingly, the human had been wearing a sandal 562 00:38:52,719 --> 00:38:56,360 Speaker 2: end quote, the dimensions of the sandal were an excellent 563 00:38:56,400 --> 00:39:02,600 Speaker 2: perspective that see ten and a quarter inches three and 564 00:39:02,640 --> 00:39:05,040 Speaker 2: a half inches wide at the soul, three inches at 565 00:39:05,080 --> 00:39:10,880 Speaker 2: the heel. And I was like, you know, what, what's 566 00:39:10,920 --> 00:39:13,000 Speaker 2: ever come of that? Whereas because he that's not the 567 00:39:13,000 --> 00:39:14,840 Speaker 2: only one he talks about. That may not be the 568 00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:20,160 Speaker 2: one where he talks specifically about people finding like tennis 569 00:39:20,160 --> 00:39:24,120 Speaker 2: shoe prints and all that. But I was like, what, 570 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:29,600 Speaker 2: what's the latest on that? So, because I figure, I mean, 571 00:39:29,640 --> 00:39:33,400 Speaker 2: this is a legit story there in terms of like 572 00:39:33,400 --> 00:39:36,640 Speaker 2: they're being a legit artifact, So what's happened to it? 573 00:39:37,680 --> 00:39:42,040 Speaker 2: Or a legit specimen? I should say, we're up on 574 00:39:42,040 --> 00:39:43,719 Speaker 2: a break. When we come back, I'm going to tell 575 00:39:43,760 --> 00:39:46,080 Speaker 2: you I did a follow up on this. I will 576 00:39:46,160 --> 00:39:49,040 Speaker 2: let you know what I have discovered, scientists have said, 577 00:39:49,080 --> 00:39:53,640 Speaker 2: because sure enough, this is a real specimen and there 578 00:39:53,680 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 2: are other similar real specimens. And uh, I was actually 579 00:39:58,640 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 2: surprised to some extent by what I learned. I'm Joshua P. 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Call this edition of 601 00:42:06,960 --> 00:42:10,360 Speaker 2: Strange Things All the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast, a 602 00:42:10,560 --> 00:42:16,680 Speaker 2: m paranormal podcast network. I am your host, Joshua P. Warren. 603 00:42:16,960 --> 00:42:27,040 Speaker 2: And is it true that a trilobyte was discovered crushed 604 00:42:27,920 --> 00:42:36,600 Speaker 2: in a human footprint? By the way, trilobites, I couldn't 605 00:42:36,600 --> 00:42:38,040 Speaker 2: think of the word I was looking. If they don't 606 00:42:38,040 --> 00:42:41,640 Speaker 2: look like snails. The ones that look like snails, I 607 00:42:41,680 --> 00:42:45,040 Speaker 2: guess are called ammonites. A trillobyte looks more like a 608 00:42:45,360 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 2: to me, kind of like a tiny horseshoe crab or 609 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:53,400 Speaker 2: something like that. Anyway, I'm not an expert on ancient 610 00:42:54,840 --> 00:43:01,040 Speaker 2: ancient creatures by any means. Uh okay, So is there 611 00:43:01,040 --> 00:43:04,839 Speaker 2: any truth to any of these kinds of stories. Well, 612 00:43:04,880 --> 00:43:12,680 Speaker 2: according to credible sources on the Internet, paleontologists looked specifically 613 00:43:12,719 --> 00:43:17,000 Speaker 2: at the Meister print there from Utah and identified it 614 00:43:17,040 --> 00:43:22,480 Speaker 2: as a natural spawling, which are rock slabs breaking in 615 00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:27,600 Speaker 2: patterns that mimic shapes, not even a human print, and 616 00:43:27,680 --> 00:43:33,520 Speaker 2: so no trilobite was actually crushed by footwear pressure. There's 617 00:43:33,560 --> 00:43:38,400 Speaker 2: another one who knows the Nevada shoe print, which was 618 00:43:38,560 --> 00:43:43,600 Speaker 2: a rock from the Triassic layers allegedly showing a shoe 619 00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:46,040 Speaker 2: sole with stitching, which is I guess more of what 620 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,440 Speaker 2: I was also thinking of. Geologists attributed it to a 621 00:43:49,560 --> 00:43:56,000 Speaker 2: natural concretion, which is a mineral accumulation. Blah blah blah. 622 00:43:56,040 --> 00:44:00,720 Speaker 2: So basically, every time you've heard a story say there 623 00:44:00,800 --> 00:44:04,240 Speaker 2: you know there's evidence of like of a modern human 624 00:44:05,360 --> 00:44:12,880 Speaker 2: shoeprint that's been fossilized, or the human footprint that's fossilized, 625 00:44:12,960 --> 00:44:15,400 Speaker 2: like stepping on top of a bug that lived millions 626 00:44:15,440 --> 00:44:18,759 Speaker 2: of years ago, scientists are saying, look, nope, we have 627 00:44:18,840 --> 00:44:24,120 Speaker 2: explained all that away. But here's what surprised me. There 628 00:44:24,200 --> 00:44:27,840 Speaker 2: is a well what could scientists would say is a 629 00:44:27,920 --> 00:44:32,719 Speaker 2: legit recent discovery. In twenty twenty three, there was a 630 00:44:32,760 --> 00:44:37,960 Speaker 2: study that analyzed ancient hominum footprints from South Africa's Cape coast, 631 00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,400 Speaker 2: and we're talking about going back one hundred and fifty 632 00:44:41,480 --> 00:44:49,480 Speaker 2: thousand years. It says these lack individual toe marks and 633 00:44:49,560 --> 00:44:54,440 Speaker 2: have crisp rounded edges, resembling hard soled sandal prints rather 634 00:44:54,520 --> 00:45:00,000 Speaker 2: than barefoot tracks. Researchers experimentally recreated similar marks with simple food, 635 00:45:00,160 --> 00:45:05,200 Speaker 2: where suggesting that early humans may have worn basic shoes 636 00:45:05,239 --> 00:45:12,080 Speaker 2: far earlier than previously thought. So basically, you know that 637 00:45:12,080 --> 00:45:14,480 Speaker 2: that's not going to like rewrite history and give us 638 00:45:14,560 --> 00:45:18,080 Speaker 2: proof that people traveled from the future into the past 639 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:21,440 Speaker 2: wearing their nikes and stepping all of these little creatures 640 00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:25,359 Speaker 2: and we just happened to luck across that fossilized footprint. Boy, 641 00:45:25,400 --> 00:45:29,400 Speaker 2: that'd be lucky, wouldn't it. But we do have we 642 00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:33,600 Speaker 2: do have evidence that, you know, thousands of years ago, 643 00:45:34,320 --> 00:45:38,719 Speaker 2: long before people were thought to be wearing shoes, apparently 644 00:45:38,719 --> 00:45:40,839 Speaker 2: they had some kind of a basic shoe figured out. 645 00:45:41,680 --> 00:45:44,040 Speaker 2: So in just in case you're one of those guys 646 00:45:44,080 --> 00:45:46,680 Speaker 2: like me who read that kind of stuff when you 647 00:45:46,760 --> 00:45:48,560 Speaker 2: were a kid, You're and you're like, wait a second, 648 00:45:48,840 --> 00:45:52,000 Speaker 2: what's the follow up on that? Well, now you know, 649 00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:56,719 Speaker 2: I'm always here to give you the straight dope. So 650 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,520 Speaker 2: sometimes there are things that are extraordinary, sometimes there not. 651 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,239 Speaker 2: In this particular case, I have to believe palaeontologists and 652 00:46:04,239 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 2: the archaeologist and anthropologist and all those people are right. 653 00:46:08,120 --> 00:46:12,480 Speaker 2: It has been a while since I have read listener emails. 654 00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:15,160 Speaker 2: I've been getting behind, so let me try to squeeze 655 00:46:15,200 --> 00:46:17,759 Speaker 2: some in before the end of the show. This came 656 00:46:17,840 --> 00:46:21,560 Speaker 2: to me from Marie. Now, if you're new to the program, 657 00:46:22,000 --> 00:46:24,279 Speaker 2: I have a website that's running right now. It's called 658 00:46:24,320 --> 00:46:30,280 Speaker 2: the Real Blackmailbox dot com. The Real blackmailbox dot com, 659 00:46:31,160 --> 00:46:34,400 Speaker 2: and I'm actually typing it in right now to make 660 00:46:34,400 --> 00:46:36,560 Speaker 2: sure everything's still good with the site, because you know 661 00:46:36,560 --> 00:46:39,800 Speaker 2: how that goes. Yeah, okay, the real black mailbox dot Com. 662 00:46:40,200 --> 00:46:42,720 Speaker 2: It's a long story. But if you go there right now, 663 00:46:43,280 --> 00:46:46,360 Speaker 2: there's an email address and you can send a wish 664 00:46:46,760 --> 00:46:50,200 Speaker 2: to that email address, and when you do that, it 665 00:46:50,239 --> 00:46:53,720 Speaker 2: gets projected into a system that goes to a portal 666 00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,480 Speaker 2: that I set up on my property next to Area 667 00:46:56,560 --> 00:47:00,480 Speaker 2: fifty one here in Nevada. Okay, So anyway, that's what 668 00:47:00,520 --> 00:47:05,040 Speaker 2: she's talking about. She went to the website and she 669 00:47:05,360 --> 00:47:10,560 Speaker 2: put her request in and here's what her subject says. 670 00:47:11,360 --> 00:47:14,480 Speaker 2: Here are the results I got from mailing through the 671 00:47:14,600 --> 00:47:20,080 Speaker 2: Real blackmailbox dot Com. Marie says, Joshua, I just have 672 00:47:20,239 --> 00:47:23,760 Speaker 2: to tell somebody what happened. I listened to your show 673 00:47:23,800 --> 00:47:26,799 Speaker 2: for the first time about a month ago, and your 674 00:47:26,880 --> 00:47:30,840 Speaker 2: story about your black mailbox and sending messages to God 675 00:47:30,920 --> 00:47:33,239 Speaker 2: out into the universe, Well, I have to tell you 676 00:47:33,280 --> 00:47:38,600 Speaker 2: what happened to me. I had requested two things. One 677 00:47:39,040 --> 00:47:43,279 Speaker 2: may be impossible, but the other well, I had requested 678 00:47:43,719 --> 00:47:47,560 Speaker 2: that I'd be given back my original ruby necklace that 679 00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:52,319 Speaker 2: my grandparents gave me, clear back in nineteen seventy nine. 680 00:47:52,520 --> 00:47:56,600 Speaker 2: I wanted it with all my heart. Well I didn't 681 00:47:56,600 --> 00:47:59,279 Speaker 2: get that exactly, but I think the universe did its 682 00:47:59,320 --> 00:48:01,880 Speaker 2: best to give me me as close a jewelry as possible. 683 00:48:06,600 --> 00:48:08,759 Speaker 2: I still would like the original, but here's what I got. 684 00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,800 Speaker 2: On November twenty ninth, my boyfriend that I have dated 685 00:48:12,840 --> 00:48:18,399 Speaker 2: for over twenty years gave me a ruby necklace out 686 00:48:18,440 --> 00:48:22,680 Speaker 2: of the blue and ruby earrings on a silver chain. 687 00:48:24,640 --> 00:48:27,480 Speaker 2: It happened less than a month after my request. I 688 00:48:27,600 --> 00:48:30,800 Speaker 2: did not tell my boyfriend or anybody about my request, 689 00:48:30,880 --> 00:48:34,320 Speaker 2: and this was amazing that I got a ruby necklace 690 00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:39,120 Speaker 2: and earrings in less than a month's time. I feel 691 00:48:39,160 --> 00:48:41,359 Speaker 2: it was the Universe's way of doing what it could 692 00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:47,359 Speaker 2: to answer my request. What happened was amazing. I think 693 00:48:47,400 --> 00:48:49,480 Speaker 2: it was the universe in God reaching out to me. 694 00:48:51,280 --> 00:48:56,200 Speaker 2: Can I make more requests through the blackmailbox dot com? 695 00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,920 Speaker 2: Yes you can, and again that website for all of 696 00:48:58,920 --> 00:49:01,959 Speaker 2: you who are just now tuning in. It's the real 697 00:49:02,000 --> 00:49:07,279 Speaker 2: blackmailbox dot com the real black mailbox. Anybody can go 698 00:49:07,320 --> 00:49:09,120 Speaker 2: there right now. Tell all your friends. It doesn't cost 699 00:49:09,200 --> 00:49:13,240 Speaker 2: you anything. You have to sign up for anything, and 700 00:49:13,320 --> 00:49:17,040 Speaker 2: you just email your requests and all the information is 701 00:49:17,080 --> 00:49:19,640 Speaker 2: there that explains sort of what this is about. But 702 00:49:19,760 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 2: she said, that was a real wow. Please write me 703 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 2: back soon. It worked well. Thank you, Marie. That's a 704 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:37,080 Speaker 2: wonderful message, especially for this time of year. And you 705 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:41,040 Speaker 2: know what you Yeah, keep going, keep going, there's no limit, 706 00:49:41,360 --> 00:49:47,319 Speaker 2: keep doing it, keep sending stuff. Here's another I'll try 707 00:49:47,360 --> 00:49:50,319 Speaker 2: to squeeze in. This comes from Girard, he says, Sir. 708 00:49:50,400 --> 00:49:54,480 Speaker 2: In episode two of Your Strange Things podcast, you describe 709 00:49:54,480 --> 00:49:58,480 Speaker 2: being at Myrtle's plantation in Saint Francisville, Louisiana. You were 710 00:49:58,480 --> 00:50:02,080 Speaker 2: in General David Bradford's and the entity there knocked three 711 00:50:02,160 --> 00:50:08,000 Speaker 2: times each on the door, table, wall, and headboard. He said, 712 00:50:08,000 --> 00:50:12,000 Speaker 2: some things are noteworthy. Number one, it responded to polite requests. 713 00:50:12,680 --> 00:50:15,640 Speaker 2: Number two, it knocked on different surfaces upon request. And 714 00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:18,520 Speaker 2: number three, it did not change its pattern of knocking 715 00:50:18,600 --> 00:50:23,800 Speaker 2: three times per surface, no matter the surface. You could 716 00:50:23,800 --> 00:50:26,320 Speaker 2: not get it to knock once for yes and twice 717 00:50:26,360 --> 00:50:30,719 Speaker 2: for no. So here is the simple solution. Designate distinct 718 00:50:30,800 --> 00:50:34,800 Speaker 2: surfaces as yes or no, not the number of knocks. 719 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:38,880 Speaker 2: For example, politely request the entity to knock on the 720 00:50:38,920 --> 00:50:43,040 Speaker 2: side table near the chair for yes and the wall 721 00:50:43,280 --> 00:50:47,600 Speaker 2: near the chair for no. Because it responded to politeness, 722 00:50:48,080 --> 00:50:51,480 Speaker 2: it should cooperate with you and use the table for 723 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:55,400 Speaker 2: yes and the wall for no. And that's it. Let 724 00:50:55,480 --> 00:50:57,480 Speaker 2: me pause and say, you know what, that's a very 725 00:50:57,520 --> 00:51:00,359 Speaker 2: good point. And you know what, I wish I thought 726 00:51:00,400 --> 00:51:01,880 Speaker 2: of that when I was in the middle of the 727 00:51:01,920 --> 00:51:06,360 Speaker 2: situation in this creepy, haunted room all by myself. It 728 00:51:07,160 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 2: was kind of one of those things where I was 729 00:51:10,440 --> 00:51:12,600 Speaker 2: so shocked by what was happening it was hard for 730 00:51:12,600 --> 00:51:16,799 Speaker 2: me to like think of creative ideas at that point 731 00:51:16,840 --> 00:51:18,399 Speaker 2: in time. But that doesn't mean I can't go back 732 00:51:18,440 --> 00:51:20,800 Speaker 2: and try it again. He says. You know, some yes 733 00:51:20,840 --> 00:51:23,960 Speaker 2: no questions you might ask are A, is it mail, 734 00:51:24,160 --> 00:51:27,040 Speaker 2: B is it par animal? C? Is it older than 735 00:51:27,040 --> 00:51:30,319 Speaker 2: a century? D? Is it older than two centuries? E? 736 00:51:31,280 --> 00:51:35,520 Speaker 2: Other yes no questions you choose. So anyway, that's a 737 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:38,279 Speaker 2: very good point. That's a very good point. And then 738 00:51:38,320 --> 00:51:41,640 Speaker 2: he also says, in addition, you had another three knock 739 00:51:41,880 --> 00:51:46,000 Speaker 2: entity from episode thirty one The Psychomantium, when you had 740 00:51:46,000 --> 00:51:47,640 Speaker 2: the mirror in the trunk of your car and there 741 00:51:47,640 --> 00:51:50,600 Speaker 2: were three knocks in the trunk. When you open the trunk, 742 00:51:50,640 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 2: you may have released a similar entity that's at Myrtle's plantation. 743 00:51:56,360 --> 00:51:58,319 Speaker 2: Is it possible you could get it to knock on 744 00:51:58,360 --> 00:52:02,120 Speaker 2: separate surfaces also for you, yes or no? Do not 745 00:52:02,239 --> 00:52:05,440 Speaker 2: try to change the number of knocks, only two distinct 746 00:52:05,440 --> 00:52:11,360 Speaker 2: surfaces for yes and no. Excellent points. Thank you so much, Gerard. 747 00:52:11,960 --> 00:52:14,760 Speaker 2: And yeah, I will remember that, and that is exactly 748 00:52:15,200 --> 00:52:17,239 Speaker 2: what I will do if I find myself in that 749 00:52:17,239 --> 00:52:22,360 Speaker 2: position once again. Okay, the clock has got us, so 750 00:52:22,800 --> 00:52:25,680 Speaker 2: you know what to do. If you can close your eyes, 751 00:52:26,440 --> 00:52:29,360 Speaker 2: take a deep breath, let us all focus together on 752 00:52:29,440 --> 00:52:33,680 Speaker 2: helping each other have the best next week possible. Here 753 00:52:33,800 --> 00:53:01,759 Speaker 2: is the good Fortune tone. That's it for this edition 754 00:53:01,840 --> 00:53:05,560 Speaker 2: of the show. Follow me at Joshua P. 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