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Speaker 1: Hope you had a great bye week. Everyone. Welcome back

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Speaker 1: to Rams football and to between the Horns, presented by

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Speaker 1: your Southern California Toyota Dealers. Were here at SOFI Stadium,

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Speaker 1: site of this week's bram Seahawks contest with DeMarco far

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Speaker 1: Maurice Jones drew on JB. Long and a break in

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Speaker 1: the rain to be outside at the Toyota patio. Good

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Speaker 1: see you, gentlemen. How is your bye week awesome? Let's go.

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Speaker 1: I'm ready. Who's not ready? Let's kick him out of here.

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Speaker 1: If you're not ready, ready for the second half, let's go.

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Speaker 2: I tell you what I need.

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Speaker 3: I definitely need a positive outlook this week because, uh,

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Speaker 3: little kids, we took a tough loss in the champions

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Speaker 3: Oh we weren't prepared.

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Speaker 2: And we you know I didn't do my part.

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Speaker 1: Is this the pre Thanksgiving turkey ball?

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Speaker 2: Yeah?

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Speaker 3: The turkey ball wasn't good to us. Our program had

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Speaker 3: four teams in it, three teams one except for mind.

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Speaker 2: So you know I don't feel right. So I'm ready

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Speaker 2: to go here for the Rams.

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Speaker 3: Thank you victory to get us, get me feeling, attitude,

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Speaker 3: reflect leadership.

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Speaker 1: You let's go hot. You re juvenate the mark Man.

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Speaker 2: You took a break from ball, just you know, took

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Speaker 2: a step back, and you know, just recharged, had fun,

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Speaker 2: walked about I don't know, a thousand miles, I bet

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Speaker 2: jo absolutely just enjoying it, just thinking about ball, thinking

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Speaker 2: about this year, thinking about how you're going to attack

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Speaker 2: the rest of the season. Think about it. People think

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Speaker 2: this is a bad year for the Rams. You got

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Speaker 2: three wins. How many people had the Rams winning three

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Speaker 2: games this year? Probably none except for you.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying.

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Speaker 2: You had them there, But you got three wins and

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Speaker 2: a bunch opportunity left in this season.

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Speaker 1: Let's get it on. We'll talk about expectations and hopes

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Speaker 1: for the second half, but let's start with a return

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Speaker 1: to health for the Rams after the open date. How's

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Speaker 1: everyone's thumb? Thumb's up all around? Yeah, good, so far?

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Speaker 1: All right, check on the thumb that really matters, that

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Speaker 1: of Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 4: You know, went out there in practice today and was

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Speaker 4: able to throw it around, So you know, it's it

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Speaker 4: is a fine balance of rest and rehab as much

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Speaker 4: as I possibly can to try to let you know,

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Speaker 4: everything in there kind of settle down. But at the

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Speaker 4: same time understanding that at some point you gotta go

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Speaker 4: out there and see what you got. And I was

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Speaker 4: able to do that a little bit on Monday, and

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Speaker 4: then you know, full practice today, you know, just doing

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Speaker 4: everything we wanted to do.

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Speaker 1: So feel pretty good about So the bye week coming

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Speaker 1: out a good time for QB one and for Sean

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Speaker 1: McVay and those Los Angeles Rams. But just a couple

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Speaker 1: of weeks ago, gentlemen, he couldn't even hold a football.

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Speaker 1: So what's your level of confidence now that he's back

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Speaker 1: practicing full that he'll be able to spin it the

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Speaker 1: way we become accustomed to against the Seahawks.

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Speaker 3: You know, I truly believe that if he could have

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Speaker 3: gone in Green Bay, he would have right, And that

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Speaker 3: tells you a lot of kind of how that situation went,

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Speaker 3: with how everything transpired there. And so I'm very confident

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Speaker 3: that if he can practice, and he's practicing well and

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Speaker 3: he's out there holding the football, that he's ready to

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Speaker 3: go out there and spin it. Now, it's gonna be

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Speaker 3: important that the Rams protect him, right And what you

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Speaker 3: mean what I mean by that is you have to

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Speaker 3: protect him from himself.

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Speaker 2: We can't get him in situations where he's scrambling.

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Speaker 3: We can't get him in situations where he doesn't have

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Speaker 3: an outlet to get the ball out.

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Speaker 1: Too.

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Speaker 3: We have to make sure he understands where his checked

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Speaker 3: down or become a receiver or yeah, or become a receiver.

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Speaker 3: We got to make sure that we protect him from himself. Yeah,

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Speaker 3: and allow him to go. So that means running the football.

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Speaker 3: That means play action pass, having outlets and knowing where

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Speaker 2: Are, no doubt. Look, man, I'm with you. Talk to

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Speaker 2: him about the thumb. I said, what's the deal? He said,

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Speaker 2: I just can't grip a football.

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Speaker 1: That's it.

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Speaker 2: That's got to suck as a quarterback when you just

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Speaker 2: can't hold the ball the way you want to. But

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Speaker 2: everything else is just about fine. But I'd say this

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Speaker 2: if I was his teammate and you told me you

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Speaker 2: can't grip a football, then sit your butt down, put

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Speaker 2: the backup in, and let's let's get on about this business. Now.

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Speaker 2: It didn't work out in Green Bay. I had no

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Speaker 2: idea that Brett Rippman was going to play like that. Right.

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Speaker 2: We didn't expect him to be great, right, anybody, but

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Speaker 2: you didn't. I didn't expect him to be like that.

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Speaker 2: So it is what it is. But you do get

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Speaker 2: Stafford back. But I think job number one is he

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Speaker 2: has to protect himself. You got to be smart with it,

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Speaker 2: and you got to protect him with play calling. Don't

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Speaker 2: put him in bad situations. And if the pocket breaks down,

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Speaker 2: get rid of the rock as soon as possible.

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Speaker 3: I think the most important thing is protecting with play

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Speaker 3: calling right, because you'll get into the coat you'll get

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Speaker 3: as a head coach and as a coach in general,

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Speaker 3: you have to be out outside the buck. You have

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Speaker 3: to be outside the game seeing it from a thirty

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Speaker 3: thousand view. You can't be in it with the quarterback

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Speaker 3: because yeah, when you're in it, you're like quarterbacks sneak like.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, no, no no no no no no, we're not.

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Speaker 1: We're not doing that right.

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Speaker 2: We're not going to do that right.

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Speaker 3: Like, we want to make sure that we continue that

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Speaker 3: thumb continues to progress throughout the course of the season

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Speaker 3: because you are on a championship.

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Speaker 1: Run, all right. The last time we had between the

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Speaker 1: Horns together, there was a quarterback's name on MJD's mind.

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Speaker 2: There was one.

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Speaker 1: And in the bye week there's a new backup in

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Speaker 1: Matthew Stafford's quarterback room. So Carson Wentz, who was nearly

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Speaker 1: a ramway back in twenty sixteen, whose career unfortunately took

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Speaker 1: a wrong turn at the Coliseum head to head against

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Speaker 1: the Rams, is now wearing horns or at least as needed.

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Speaker 1: You're right, Sorry, go ahead, No, you're right. But it

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Speaker 1: has not been the same for Wentz at the tail

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Speaker 1: end of his tenure in Philadelphia, Indianapolis, Washington and so

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Speaker 1: on and so forth. But he basically took a half

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Speaker 1: a year sabbatical and now he joins the Rams with

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Speaker 1: a bye week. I guess learn their offense. But gentlemen,

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Speaker 1: as we found out, he too was busy during the

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Speaker 1: b I welcoming another daughter to the world.

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Speaker 5: Then things happened real quick last week. And I don't

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Speaker 5: know if anybody knows, but we had a baby last

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Speaker 5: Friday too, So came down here on Wednesday, physical signed

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Speaker 5: motor back home. By the grace of guy, my wife

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Speaker 5: went into labor on Thursday, so had our third baby

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Speaker 5: So timing was great though. I got to be there.

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Speaker 5: Such a blessing. And yeah, so it's been a whirlwind,

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Speaker 5: trying to try to learn this playbook, learn this area,

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Speaker 5: learn learn really everything as quick as I can. But

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Speaker 5: I'm enjoying it.

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Speaker 1: Okay, So I'll acknowledge that this is the point you

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Speaker 1: were driving out a couple of weeks ago, and we'll

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Speaker 1: see whether Wentz is too little, too late for the

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Speaker 1: Los Angeles Rams in the context of this twenty twenty

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Speaker 1: three season. But at least there's competition and I think

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Speaker 1: a professional capability in that room now. And as I

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Speaker 1: see it from the Rams perspective, it's not just managing

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Speaker 1: a roster and a salary cap it's also managing human beings, right,

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Speaker 1: And what we saw in Green Bay was not good enough.

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Speaker 1: So you can't ask one thing of Aaron and Donald

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Speaker 1: And it seems like they reacted swiftly to that.

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Speaker 3: No. I love the signing. I think this when you

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Speaker 3: look at Carson Wentz's career, the one thing that he

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Speaker 3: has to have is confidence. He has to have a

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Speaker 3: confidence about himself. When he was in Philly and he

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Speaker 3: was playing well, he was almost borderline arrogant. Right, because

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Speaker 3: he understood his abilities and how great he was in

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Speaker 3: that game in the Coliseum. I remember him like like

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Speaker 3: he he came in there like I'm the man and

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Speaker 3: we're gonna win and you know it, right, and he

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Speaker 3: played as such. And so I think getting him into

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Speaker 3: this system understanding that he can do all the bootleg stuff,

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Speaker 3: all the outside zones.

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Speaker 2: He could run.

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Speaker 3: He's athletic, and you can kind of get him going

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Speaker 3: and he could be the backup guy. The insurance and

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Speaker 3: the one thing I always tell people about insurance, you

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Speaker 3: really don't need it until you do. Yeah, right, And

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Speaker 3: that's what we found out in Green Bays, like you

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Speaker 3: really don't need a backup quarterback until you do.

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Speaker 2: And then all of a sudden, this is we're scrambling.

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Speaker 3: And so getting him in here, getting him comfortable, getting

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Speaker 3: understanding what's going on, and we kind of talked about

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Speaker 3: that throughout the preseasons. You have to have a valuable

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Speaker 3: they don't have it. You look at the Giants, they

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Speaker 3: trade for Josh Dobbs because they.

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Speaker 2: Didn't have it. Right, So all these teams are you know,

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Speaker 2: you put some you allocate so many resources to the

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Speaker 2: backup guy. But you just won play away.

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Speaker 3: So having Carson Wentz here, get him to understand and

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Speaker 3: go along. You just don't know what may happen, but

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Speaker 3: you have a great insurance plan behind Matthew Stafford.

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Speaker 1: They built a statue of his backup in Philadelphia, right, yes,

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Speaker 1: Philly special. Hey, now it's the planet gets Stafford hurt.

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Speaker 1: I mean it all comes first full circle in the

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Speaker 1: National Football League. What about the fact that there might

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Speaker 1: be a Baker Mayfield caliber component here for the Rams.

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Speaker 1: We saw what they were able to do deep in

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Speaker 1: last season. Wow. We hope that Carson Wentz doesn't need

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Speaker 1: to take a snap the rest of the season, but

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Speaker 1: if he does, there's a blueprint for having success here

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Speaker 1: and getting a starting job out.

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Speaker 2: No doubt that Mayfield effect was real. I told you

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Speaker 2: I loved everything about Baker Mayfield except what went on

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Speaker 2: between the White Lions. At times. It's just there's a

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Speaker 2: lot left to be desired when he's playing quarterback. But

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Speaker 2: the swag, the leadership, all that stuff is there and

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Speaker 2: shout out to ram scouting. I cannot believe Carson Wentz

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Speaker 2: is here because I remember when you were trying to

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Speaker 2: decide between Wins and Gough and they said Wentz would

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Speaker 2: be better early, Goth would be better late. Aren't we

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Speaker 2: sitting here in that world right now? It's amazing? But

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Speaker 2: you're right. When that guy was at the top of

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Speaker 2: his game, he was borderline arrogant and it was fun

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Speaker 2: to watch. But who wasn't when you were at the

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Speaker 2: height of your powers. But when you do get dinged,

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Speaker 2: it does shatter your confidence. So you know, I know

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Speaker 2: the name is better Carson Wentz. Everybody knows that that's

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Speaker 2: the guy that was, you know, the second pick in

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Speaker 2: the draft. I know that name sounds better than Brett Rippen.

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Speaker 2: How he plays, I don't know. I can't wait to see.

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Speaker 2: Can you pick up this offense? I don't know, can't

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Speaker 2: wait to see. But I remember talking about Baker Mayfield.

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Speaker 2: You just got here, it's less than two sleeps, and

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Speaker 3: I think the biggest thing with Carson Wentz is is

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Speaker 1: Yeah, the Rams don't always invest in their QB two,

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Speaker 2: I'm happy Puka got the week off because he's a rookie.

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Speaker 2: It's hard. It's hard every week and the pressure mounts

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Speaker 3: Remember my rookie year going to sleep at like six o'clock,

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Speaker 1: They were like, what do you mean? This is it?

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Speaker 2: We get it right, only got callery, you got one

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Speaker 2: you got to take your reps, and those reps it's rough.

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Speaker 1: Rams coming up, We'll ask you, guys what you want

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Speaker 2: Can I jump out ahead? Is the MVP Cooper Cup

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Speaker 2: Can't he be that guy? That's what I needed? I

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Speaker 3: I felt a sad I felt after the Green Bay game,

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Speaker 2: How does Philly get their guys going? Right?

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Speaker 2: You have that same ability here.

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Speaker 3: How do we spread the ball around where Cooper Cup

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Speaker 1: Yeah, how about what the Rams are playing for first?

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Speaker 1: it's currently constituted. But I kind of posed this hypothetical

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Speaker 2: That's a great question. Maybe I mean the staying of Dallas,

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Speaker 2: And here's the funny thing, it's entirely winnable if you

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Speaker 1: So let me tell you on why this week is

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Speaker 1: For the Rams, I think the Rams' best chances through Seattle,

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Speaker 3: They've outgained all these teams and have outperformed them, and

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Speaker 2: To get there. We said that almost every week, if

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Speaker 2: So I'm right there with you, absolutely there's no way

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Speaker 1: Anybody.

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Speaker 1: We way. If they do, then that creates a whole

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Speaker 6: the first nine weeks, both positive and things that we

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Speaker 6: can improve upon. And let's focus on those things and

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Speaker 6: let's go attack it. And let's love this challenge that

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Speaker 6: the NFL brings every single week and love the opportunity

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Speaker 6: to welcome some guys back and love coaching and love

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Speaker 6: playing as well as we possibly can. And let's see

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Speaker 6: what the heck happens.

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Speaker 2: When he left the coaches show. You can tell this

443
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Speaker 2: guy ain't dead. Really, you can tell he's not giving up,

444
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Speaker 2: he's not quitting, and it's almost like he planned to

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Speaker 2: be right in this situation so he could flip the

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Speaker 2: script in the second half of the year.

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Speaker 1: Look, you got a second half of a season, half

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Speaker 1: of a season, eight games with Aaron Donald, Matthew Stafford,

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Speaker 1: Cooper Cup.

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Speaker 2: I'll take those chances. Yeah, I will.

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Speaker 1: Like there's gonna be moments in February we're sitting around

452
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Speaker 1: twidling our thumbs, wishing for a home game against the

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Speaker 1: Washington Commander to go out and try and win. Right,

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Speaker 1: I agree, Well, let's not relinquish that just yet here

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Speaker 1: pre thanksgiving all right? For the Rams to make something

456
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Speaker 1: of this second half though, to win six seven, all

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Speaker 1: eight of their games on the remaining schedule. What has

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Speaker 1: to happen in your mind, Maurice, what's kind of top

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Speaker 1: your list in terms of order of magnitude there?

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Speaker 2: The biggest thing to me is, I think efficiency in

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Speaker 2: the running game. Being efficient.

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Speaker 3: That's that's four yards on first down, half of the

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Speaker 3: chains on second down, and getting on third down, getting

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Speaker 3: the first down, and whenever you decide to run the ball.

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Speaker 3: That's what has to happen in those situations and the

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Speaker 3: reason being is this offensive line has to go forward.

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Speaker 2: They have to go forward. When they go forward, all

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Speaker 2: the passing game shows up. We got it.

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Speaker 3: It just reminds you back in Indianapolis when the Rams

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Speaker 3: went back to that and the overtime, they went back

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Speaker 3: to their first schedule, their first place that they had scheduled.

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Speaker 3: In the first the first drive, it was run round, run,

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Speaker 3: play action pass, and guys are just running wide open

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Speaker 3: down the middle of the field. That's when your quarterback

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Speaker 3: is at his best. That's when your offensive line is

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Speaker 3: at their best. So getting efficient, not necessarily running the

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Speaker 3: ball forty times, but being efficient on each down. So

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Speaker 3: making sure that these games, these downhill runs are getting

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Speaker 3: four yards on second down, they're getting half the chains

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Speaker 3: on third down, they're converting to first you know, not

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Speaker 3: having to not not calling the fly sweep on fourth

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Speaker 3: and one, you're starting one.

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Speaker 1: But I'm just saying, like, what the second half against

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals sixteen more times, that's it.

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Speaker 3: Give me that, Give me that, and then I promise

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Speaker 3: you the Rams will be exactly where they want to

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Speaker 3: go because you have everything else. You just have to

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Speaker 3: force the defense to put more resources into the box. Hey,

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Speaker 3: guys into the box and keep those guys eyes on

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Speaker 3: the running backs. And a lot of these receivers are

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Speaker 3: win one on one.

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Speaker 1: Kyrin Williams can't play this week, but can Ridge next

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Speaker 1: week against Arizona. You just hurt my feelings. That's the

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Speaker 1: one on one.

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Speaker 2: But I don't care who's robbing with you.

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Speaker 3: Man.

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Speaker 2: The last thing you want to do is the defense.

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Speaker 2: This time of year is physical. You don't want to

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Speaker 2: defend the run. It thinks, it really does, it hurts,

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Speaker 2: It takes you know, years off your career. But the

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Speaker 2: teams that are physical have more success towards the end

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Speaker 2: of the year. And this offensive line I think is

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Speaker 2: really taking a giant step forward coming forward. So that

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Speaker 2: needs to happen on game day. So I one agree

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Speaker 2: with you run the football, be more physical than your opponent.

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Speaker 2: You have a better chance to win the football game.

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Speaker 2: Uh by that token, I'll say on the other side,

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Speaker 2: stopping the run is going to be something that you

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Speaker 2: need to do and and and be better at and

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Speaker 2: really be conscious of because Pete Carroll has gone back

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Speaker 2: to doing what he does best, being physical, trying to

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Speaker 2: run the football.

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Speaker 1: Because you talked about no Jao Smith is coming off

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Speaker 1: a career high passing. No, they're still trying, but they're

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Speaker 1: they're chasing points. No, that's fool's goal. They are more

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Speaker 1: pass happy than ever. They're chasing points.

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Speaker 2: Yes, they got behind in Baltimore, but they're still trying

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Speaker 2: to run it versus.

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Speaker 1: Pete Carroll up the podium. They're coming out with Shane

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Speaker 1: Waldron and they're throwing it all around the yard. See

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Speaker 1: three receivers. Yeah, this rookie. Their screen game is dynamic.

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Speaker 1: DK and Tyler doing their absolutely. But he's gonna be

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Speaker 1: physical to start the game. And if he's having success,

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Speaker 1: that's what he's gonna stay with. No, you gotta do

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Speaker 1: what you gotta do versus Baltimore. I'll give you that shirt.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to.

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Speaker 2: Count what they did versus the corpse of Washington's defense

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Speaker 2: after they traded it away, then so be it. But

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Speaker 2: Pete Carroll's gone back to doing what he's doing. He's

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Speaker 2: being physical. I disagree with you both. I love Yeah

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Speaker 2: November December football. Run the ball, stop the run. To me,

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Speaker 2: it's about the secondary for the Rams needs to play

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Speaker 2: much better, needs to go up. Yeah, needs to be

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Speaker 2: able to contend with some of the receivers, including this

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Speaker 2: weekends that they're gonna face and then I need to

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Speaker 2: see too two out well, Puka Nakua Cooper Cup play

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Speaker 2: like pro bowlers. The rest of the way, that to

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Speaker 2: me is how that to me is how you get.

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Speaker 1: I'm with you.

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Speaker 2: My original point was the DB's look, I think they're

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Speaker 2: leading the league in DPI. That's the stuff you can't happen.

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Speaker 2: And I'll be honest, I told you coming out of camp,

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Speaker 2: I said your next star is coming out of the secondary.

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Speaker 2: I was dead wrong, or at least in the wrong way.

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Speaker 2: Some of these guys have been penaly machines. You have

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Speaker 2: got to sew that up, and you've got to be

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Speaker 2: better tackles in the back end. That's what needs to improve.

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Speaker 2: But first thing they're gonna try to do is run

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Speaker 2: the ball at you, and if they have success, they're

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Speaker 2: gonna stick.

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Speaker 1: And see some names in the secondary, perhaps Quentin Lake.

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Speaker 1: You see Ruin emerging good luck on rivalry week by

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Speaker 1: thank you?

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Speaker 2: What was that the you but roared around town? Is

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Speaker 2: if that again?

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Speaker 1: Maybe Trey Tomlinson's Yeah, that's upcoming. I think a healthy

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Speaker 1: Kobe Durant was starting to migrate to the outside and

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Speaker 1: play more there. But they're gonna get a thorough vetting

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Speaker 1: here in the second half. And I think their bye

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Speaker 1: week was really.

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Speaker 3: I completely agree with your saying. I'm just saying that

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Speaker 3: you have to run the ball. You have to be

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Speaker 3: fishing enough in the running game to give those guys

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Speaker 3: an opportunity. I know, because we get too high safeties

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Speaker 3: to to at well. Going deep is not gonna help you, right,

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Speaker 3: you want to bring those guys down so they can

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Speaker 3: get those one on ones and take those shots. That's

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Speaker 3: what I that's all I'm saying. I want trust me

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Speaker 3: as a running back. I want to throw the football

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Speaker 3: because it means less guys are in the bucks. But

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Speaker 3: for the rams and what they're doing, it's about the

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Speaker 3: offensive line and protecting your quarterback to get those shots

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Speaker 3: down the field because if you just drop back sixty times,

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Speaker 3: those guys aren't pay for that.

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Speaker 2: And that's what I want. To protect our quarterback and

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Speaker 2: protect our line. And the way Raheem calls his defense,

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Speaker 2: he keeps those two safeties high, he doesn't give up

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Speaker 2: anything deep. He puts onus on the defensive front to

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Speaker 2: do a lot to stop the run and then transition

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Speaker 2: to pass rushers when necessary, which means if you're running

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Speaker 2: the football, you're gonna take the gas out of those

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Speaker 2: guys exact.

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Speaker 1: That's gonna be your game point.

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Speaker 3: My only concern is this, and we talked about early

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Speaker 3: as the rookie wall. There's so many rookies that have

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Speaker 3: made such an impact early in this season that eventually

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Speaker 3: they're gonna get worn down. You know, Wake Forest ain't

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Speaker 3: played in January, BYU hasn't played. I'm just I'm just

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Speaker 3: I'm just putting out there Tennessee. You know they thinking

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Speaker 3: about Missouri's over here standing on the business he's talking

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Speaker 3: about I'm I'm just being honest. Now, Big Steve, you

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Speaker 3: played in January, so you know what it's like. But again,

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Speaker 3: it's just a little bit different. And that's the only thing.

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Speaker 3: When you play so many rookies, eventually that key wall

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Speaker 3: hits and how do you manage that as a coach.

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Speaker 2: And that played in January every year in college? That

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Speaker 2: in December.

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Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, let me give you a couple of years

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Speaker 1: that I think are important. The tight end room for

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Speaker 1: the Rams, a group that lives out of eleven personnel

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Speaker 1: has to produce something and I'm not talking about just

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Speaker 1: like it's one guy. Yeah, but they're now carrying for

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Speaker 1: Hunter Long is healthy and ready to go. It seems

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Speaker 1: like Tyler Hibby was banged up. We learned he's playing

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Speaker 1: through injury. But that room collectively does not have a

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Speaker 1: touchdown this year. And when you look at how teams

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Speaker 1: have beat the Seahawks, including most recently the Washington Commanders,

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Speaker 1: hanging tough. The Washington Commanders use their running backs and

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Speaker 1: they use their tight end. Those were three of their

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Speaker 1: top four receivers. So maybe that's a blueprint to getting

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Speaker 1: to this Seattle defense. Because we know we love their linebackers.

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Speaker 1: But where do the Rams win in week one? Right

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Speaker 1: over their shoulders and heads? Yes, where do the Commanders win?

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Speaker 1: Making those linebackers for Seattle playing coverage not by stuff

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Speaker 1: in the run? All that's funny.

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Speaker 2: It's the same game plan to beat Bobby w This

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Speaker 2: is the thing you call You count it as a negative, right,

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Speaker 2: but you've been doing it for fifteen sixteen years. That

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Speaker 2: means he's been in the league for that long, right,

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Speaker 2: that's crazy. I said that. This is the thing.

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Speaker 3: When you go back to the first game of Seattle,

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Speaker 3: they ran the ball forty times. Now, it wasn't it

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Speaker 3: wasn't good.

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Speaker 1: It was inefficient.

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Speaker 2: It was inefficient. It was an inefficient touchdowns though, right,

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Speaker 2: And so to me, it's it's being efficient.

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Speaker 3: If you can be efficient, those balls are gonna zip

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Speaker 3: past Bobby Wagner because he has to take those two

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Speaker 3: or three steps up to stop the running game.

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Speaker 1: And then the last one for me is the kicking game.

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Speaker 1: There's no path to the postseason for the Rams because

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Speaker 1: their margin is so thin if they continue to take

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Speaker 1: knocks in the kicking game.

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Speaker 2: Gotta have a mac gay effect.

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Speaker 1: Like not sure in any way you want this field

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Speaker 1: goals or block punched, all of the above in terms

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Speaker 1: of efficiency and the impact that it has on games.

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Speaker 1: In the first half of the season, the Rams for

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Speaker 1: thirty two out of thirty two in the kicking out. Okay, yeah,

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Speaker 1: and here's another way what it manifests itself. The Seahawks

641
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Speaker 1: have the best starting field position in the league. Okay,

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Speaker 1: they get quick takeaways, and they have great punting and

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Speaker 1: kickoff and reach and all that. You can't you can't

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Speaker 1: let them get short fields, and you can't put yourself

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Speaker 1: in eighty yard drive situation.

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Speaker 3: Can I can I change mind from running game to

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Speaker 3: just being playing clean football period. Overall clean football, which

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Speaker 3: means you don't give a big plays on defense, you

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Speaker 3: don't have turnovers or negative like huge negative plays like

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Speaker 3: sack fumbles on offense. And then the kicking game is

651
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Speaker 3: just clean, right, No block punts, make your field goals.

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Speaker 3: If the Rams do that, I think they're they're they're

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Speaker 3: sitting here differently.

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Speaker 1: They do kickfield goals.

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Speaker 2: Well, okay, I got a question. If you're sitting if

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Speaker 2: you got forty eight yards out and you need points,

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Speaker 2: are you punting it or are you going ahead? What's

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Speaker 2: the what's the choice we had?

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Speaker 1: Right? Yeah, trust the math would be my record.

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Speaker 2: Trust the math, right, that's I mean, look, I guess

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Speaker 2: i'd give the guy a look.

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Speaker 1: From fifty if you needed it.

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Speaker 2: But if if you had a chance to punt, if

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Speaker 2: you didn't need the points, then go ahead and punt

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Speaker 2: and play defense. But at some point you're gonna have

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Speaker 2: to rely on the placekicker. You're paying them to make

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Speaker 2: field goals. Alright, let's boom in on the Seahawks. This

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Speaker 2: week's opponents much different but similar since we saw them

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Speaker 2: in Week one. They got a couple of rookies who

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Speaker 2: are really emerging. Both of their first round draft picks

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Speaker 2: look like hits in the secondary and at receiver.

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Speaker 1: But I want to start with Gino Smith because man

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Speaker 1: at halftime a last week's game, it looked like the

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Speaker 1: tide was turning against Geno, that the Twelves might be

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Speaker 1: ready to get a look at Locke, you know what

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Speaker 1: I'm saying. And then he spends it around and has

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Speaker 1: a career best day and leads them to a victory.

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Speaker 2: Is that bad?

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Speaker 1: Well, okay, I mean judge by a pretty high standard.

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Speaker 2: But yeah, so Sweat wasn't there, Chase Young wasn't there,

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Speaker 2: and they lost their first round Corner two I thought

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Speaker 2: was one of the dumbest calls. They threw him out

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Speaker 2: of the game, which is crazy. And then Lockett comes

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Speaker 2: back in the game, right, So I thought this was

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Speaker 2: an egregious shot. The guy gets up and plays the

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Speaker 2: rest of the game, but you throw him out. That

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Speaker 2: was crazy. So Washington shorthanded Geno looks great. But Gino

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Speaker 2: is still Gino. He's still that guy. Whatever you thought

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Speaker 2: of Gino Smith, he is still the same guy. There.

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Speaker 2: There's some things that he does well, there's some things

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Speaker 2: that he doesn't see, and when you get pressure on him,

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Speaker 2: his passing numbers go down. So if you can find

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Speaker 2: a way to generate pressure, and it doesn't matter who

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Speaker 2: you play, this is the Rams versus anybody. It just

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Speaker 2: can't be Aaron Donald. I hope, and this goes back

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Speaker 2: to the wish list. I hope Byron Young is a

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Speaker 2: guy that gets to ten sacks. He's got five so far.

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Speaker 2: He's in rarefied air. Have you seen his numbers and

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Speaker 2: the guys that are around him. You are in the league, man,

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Speaker 2: You're one of these good players. These guys up here

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Speaker 2: are making big money. If you want to be them,

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Speaker 2: keep doing this now, keep going and get to ten sacks.

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Speaker 1: Can Aaron be Aaron?

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Speaker 2: Can Aaron figure out how to go from five point

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Speaker 2: five to over ten in the next seven weeks. I

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Speaker 2: don't care if it's two games where he gets three

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Speaker 2: sacks apiece and he jumps up the board, or he

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Speaker 2: goes mister efficient and gets a sack of game for

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Speaker 2: the til the season ends. Either way, you got to

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Speaker 2: get pressure on quarterbacks, and you got to get pressure

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Speaker 2: on Geno Smith. I would say this.

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Speaker 3: I say, it's so funny that we always want players

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Speaker 3: to be better than what they are, right, We want,

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Speaker 3: you know, to do these things. And Geno has played well,

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Speaker 3: he was efficient last year. But what happens with the

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Speaker 3: efficiency is you become confident. You become confident that I

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Speaker 3: can do certain things, and those certain things start. You

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Speaker 3: start to hold onto the ball because you're trying to

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Speaker 3: make it throw, You're trying to make a play. And

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Speaker 3: I still remember, and this will never go anywhere. Aaron

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Speaker 3: Donald comes on the stunt right up the middle and

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Speaker 3: Jenna goes, oh my god. He says, that wasn't him.

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Speaker 3: But your point still, that is who you are if

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Speaker 3: he goes viral again this week.

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Speaker 1: Right exactly.

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Speaker 2: And so for me, it's finding a way to put

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Speaker 2: pressure on him.

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Speaker 3: You you, and the that was you? It was The

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Speaker 3: thing is Another thing is it's matchup base. Do you

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Speaker 3: match up? The Rams just match up well with Seattle

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Speaker 3: for whatever reason, their personnel, their scheme, They match up

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Speaker 3: will Now the Niners is a different story, right, But

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Speaker 3: you match when you match up well with the team,

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Speaker 3: you have to take advantage of those matchups and make

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Speaker 3: sure you win them.

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Speaker 1: That being said, things are different about the Seahawks and

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Speaker 1: in some important ways Devin Witherspoon against Cupping the slot

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Speaker 1: gonna be a great matchup to watch. He is in

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Speaker 1: the running for defense to Rookie of the Year like

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Speaker 1: Byron young Is, Jackson Smith and Jig But I think

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Speaker 1: has brought their screen game to life. They had I

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Speaker 1: think a record number of yards after catch last week

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Speaker 1: against Washington.

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Speaker 2: Disley got a big one.

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Speaker 1: Ken Walker is not just a home run hitting back

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Speaker 1: now in the handoff game, he now has some receiving element.

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Speaker 1: He's coming off the first receiving touchdown, so I feel

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Speaker 1: like yards after catch are looking at it the other way,

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Speaker 1: like tackling on first contact is going to be a

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Speaker 1: determining factor.

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Speaker 2: At the same day, I like how they use Walker

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Speaker 2: up there. Hal Waldron's been using him that little motion

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Speaker 2: out and then come back and hand it to him.

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Speaker 2: That's that's pretty date. Have you ever done that as

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Speaker 2: a running motion out come back in this new age offense?

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Speaker 2: They motioned everybody. I normally just went out of wide

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Speaker 2: receiver and came back in the back. But with the rams,

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Speaker 2: Oh that was sweet though. I like how they do

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Speaker 2: that that It gets them a running start if you

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Speaker 2: if you don't, if you play that block too thick,

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Speaker 2: he is out the game fast.

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Speaker 1: Yeah. Rams actually played the division pretty well in the

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Speaker 1: first half. Wins over Arizona and Seattle had San Francisco

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Speaker 1: DEADNA rights here. It's so fight stadium could not get

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Speaker 1: over the hump. What if they go ahead and finish

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Speaker 1: this NFC West schedule at five and one. Here are

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Speaker 1: a couple of opportunities back to back to start the

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Speaker 1: second half of their season home to Seattle next week

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Speaker 1: Thanksgiving in Arizona. Two teams they play well historic.

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Speaker 2: Let's get them. I'm excited.

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Speaker 3: I think the Rams can do a lot more than

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Speaker 3: what people think. They just got to put it all together.

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Speaker 1: Get your your little league team together.

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Speaker 3: Man, No, we're done. We had we got out of there. Man,

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Speaker 3: we took this l You know what the best part

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Speaker 3: about my little league, Tam jd. You know we told

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Speaker 3: our kids, no you no, no, you played to win

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Speaker 3: the game.

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Speaker 1: That's what we do.

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Speaker 2: We went to herm Edwards, we played to win.

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Speaker 3: We didn't win, So we didn't go get second place

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Speaker 3: trophies because that's not what we want. We came here

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Speaker 3: for the first place, and not one of my kids

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Speaker 3: to a to a man, parents like let's go get

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Speaker 3: into it.

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Speaker 2: No, I'm cool. I said, you know, you turn back

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Speaker 2: next year.

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Speaker 7: Let's go to work like pizza party or anything. Apple

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Speaker 7: And we sprayed him around because it was it was

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Speaker 7: a great win. Guys were chugging Apple cider, but we

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Speaker 7: didn't we didn't go touch that second place trophy because

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Speaker 7: we didn't come for that.

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Speaker 1: I hope you'll join us here at so Fi Stadium

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Speaker 1: for an Apple Saddler celebration if the Rams can beat

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Speaker 1: the Seahawks and climb back into this NSC picture from

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Speaker 1: the Toyota Patio here in Inglewood at Sofi Stadium for

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Speaker 1: the Marco Farmer Holds True on JV long. Thanks being

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Speaker 1: with us for our latest installment between the Horns, always

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