Speaker 1: It's nine Gene with Jenny Garth and Tori Spelling. Hey, everybody,
Speaker 1: welcome to another episode of nine oh to one. O MG,
Speaker 1: this was this was a real OMG, this was a
Speaker 1: good episode. Today. I'm here with Amy Sugarman and Tories out,
Speaker 1: so we're going to fill in and do our best
Speaker 1: to give a good recap. So let's do this. Well,
Speaker 1: luckily it was a big Kelly episode. Yeah, it had
Speaker 1: a lot of everybody. I felt like this was a
Speaker 1: pretty evenly distributed episode. Everybody had stuff to do. It
Speaker 1: was pretty for me, like major Kelly because of the
Speaker 1: Kelly deal and stuff, which I obviously loved and I
Speaker 1: have a lot of comments on. But can we please
Speaker 1: talk about the shower? Like what do you remember? Okay, first,
Speaker 1: let's just do our little opening. Okay, let's do our recap.
Speaker 1: You're so excited. Season three, episode nine, high Wire aired
Speaker 1: September twenty three, nine, and here's a little synopsis. College
Speaker 1: plans are on everyone's mind, especially in Andrea's dreams. The
Speaker 1: Walsh family makes financial decisions about Brenda and Brandon's future.
Speaker 1: Plus Brenda wonders if her relationship with Dylan is destined
Speaker 1: to last with their different interests, David accidentally sees Kelly,
Speaker 1: Donna finds her true calling, and Steve tries to cheat
Speaker 1: his way to usc perfect episode right there. Written by
Speaker 1: Star Frowman and Darren Star, directed by Bethany Rooney, it
Speaker 1: was a ten out of ten. Other than the super
Speaker 1: lame high wire scenes, it was a ten out of
Speaker 1: the Okay, So first of all, I was, let's just
Speaker 1: start for the beginning, because we just can't jump all over.
Speaker 1: Were you like, wait, who's in the shower? When it
Speaker 1: when it started? Where you like, who is that in
Speaker 1: the shower? Because that's what I thought? Yes, And then
Speaker 1: was a real I mean you were really showering? Yes, Okay,
Speaker 1: let's talk about that because I'm where I'm sure I
Speaker 1: was wearing men's underwear like shorts and a bandeau on
Speaker 1: my boobs right like a thing covering them. And they
Speaker 1: built the shower set and they pump in hot water
Speaker 1: and they to make it look like even hotter, they
Speaker 1: used like that dry eye smoke so it looks like
Speaker 1: really steamy. Yeah, but that was it was so uncomfortable
Speaker 1: shooting that. I remember that was probably one of my
Speaker 1: first things that I ever had to do, Like that
Speaker 1: where I was supposed to be naked. Yeah, I mean
Speaker 1: I not only were you supposed to be naked, you're
Speaker 1: literally being drenched. I like it when I spit the
Speaker 1: water out of my mouth like like a fountain. I
Speaker 1: don't know what's happening with that. But do you do
Speaker 1: that in the shower? Where do you like put some
Speaker 1: of the shower water aw in your mouth and then
Speaker 1: like spit it out. No, but I occasionally do brush
Speaker 1: my teeth in the shower, which I think people think
Speaker 1: is really gross. So you're you're saving time. That's called stacking.
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that was not only were you
Speaker 1: like acting very well taking a shower, it was like
Speaker 1: you were taking a full shower because you were dripping.
Speaker 1: I think I was actually taking a full shower. I
Speaker 1: am sure they saved that scene for the end of
Speaker 1: the day too, because I was all wet and my
Speaker 1: hair and makeup was gone, so I needed a shower
Speaker 1: and they provided me with fun the whole thing. I actually,
Speaker 1: I thought the whole gist of it was awesome, Like
Speaker 1: it was very real, like realistic that, Okay, this is
Speaker 1: your step brother. He comes into the shower, and it
Speaker 1: was so funny. It's like I've seen this episode times
Speaker 1: because I remembered every single Yeah, I felt like it
Speaker 1: was gonna be like this horror movie, like a slasher
Speaker 1: opening or something. Saince she was gonn get killed in
Speaker 1: the shower, but that didn't happen. All that happened was
Speaker 1: we got to see David walk dancing down the hallway.
Speaker 1: That was genius. Did they were they like just just
Speaker 1: walk down the hallway and then opened the door. And
Speaker 1: he couldn't do it that way. He had add in
Speaker 1: all the dance moves. That's what I was wondering. He
Speaker 1: was dancing so much, so all I think about, somebody
Speaker 1: knew this guy was gonna be on Dancing with the
Speaker 1: Stars one like he was nobody knew about Dancing with
Speaker 1: the Stars then, I know, but it was so fortuitous.
Speaker 1: I was like, wow, this is amazing. So that made
Speaker 1: it even the scene even better because it was so
Speaker 1: like cheesy and nostalgic. He's like bebopp in and and
Speaker 1: obviously we're to get the point like he can't hear anything,
Speaker 1: and they really put that in in our They really
Speaker 1: honed in on that this guy can't hear well that yeah,
Speaker 1: I showed a lot of skin in that scene, and
Speaker 1: I felt like I was like, oh wow, I missed
Speaker 1: those legs. Good legs. You were really cute in this episode.
Speaker 1: What do you can you remember more like Brian coming
Speaker 1: in and the towel and all the direction that must
Speaker 1: have happened. I mean, that's horrifying. Okay, this we're so
Speaker 1: young and I have to be naked in front of him,
Speaker 1: which I wasn't really naked, but I was naked enough
Speaker 1: to be uncomfortable, So I don't know. That was just
Speaker 1: not fun on any level, like the shower scene and
Speaker 1: the being found out scene. But it was good. I
Speaker 1: look good. It was. It was so good, and it
Speaker 1: was such a great open to the episode. I had
Speaker 1: this weird moment where I'm like, is someone going to
Speaker 1: join her in the shower? No, that's not appropriate, And
Speaker 1: then is it a dream? It was a dream, But
Speaker 1: I'll tell you what was a dream? Area on a
Speaker 1: tight rope? Dude? Who thought of that? Literally? I just
Speaker 1: said to Jenny, you guys before we went on, was
Speaker 1: the episode like four minutes too short? Where they just
Speaker 1: had to put in this dumb ass tight ropes? I
Speaker 1: didn't even It's like, well, were they trying to show
Speaker 1: like this is her dream. You know how everybody has
Speaker 1: a dream that they kind of go back to and
Speaker 1: it it's either it's great or it's horrifying. Do you
Speaker 1: have any dreams like that that are sort of they repeat? Yeah,
Speaker 1: I never. I always didn't graduate from college. Like I'm
Speaker 1: always like having this recurring dream that I'm still in
Speaker 1: college and I didn't graduate, and I don't speak Spanish
Speaker 1: and I have a Spanish final and like this whole thing. Yeah,
Speaker 1: maybe this was Andrea's recurring nightmare, like she's always walking
Speaker 1: the high wire. She's always like, you know, teetering on
Speaker 1: the edge of sanity or safety or something. I don't know.
Speaker 1: And that poor outfit they put her in, Oh man,
Speaker 1: that okay. First of all, that outfit was very familiar
Speaker 1: to me because I did a show called Circle Us
Speaker 1: of the Stars when I was young, like a twenty
Speaker 1: year old person, And those are the costumes they made
Speaker 1: you wear. Yeah, Circus of the Stars was incredible, and
Speaker 1: so was Battle of the Network Stars that one. Yes,
Speaker 1: oh god, did you have to do a tight rope? No?
Speaker 1: I did the flying trapeeze. They train you, Yeah, you
Speaker 1: trained for like a couple of months and your hands
Speaker 1: are all bloody from the blisters and bruises everywhere. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's intense because they literally take you up this you know,
Speaker 1: giant rising thing or to the platform which is like
Speaker 1: up two by four in the middle of the air,
Speaker 1: and you're supposed to stand comfortably on that, and then
Speaker 1: when it's returned to what's your turn to go? You
Speaker 1: shout at least still, which means ready, I'll never forget
Speaker 1: that word. Uh, and then you jump and hopefully someone
Speaker 1: catches you on the other side or you fall to
Speaker 1: your to the net, which really burns when you hit that. Baby. Oh,
Speaker 1: I was wondering that did you do that during the
Speaker 1: height of nine one? Oh? I think I was before.
Speaker 1: I honestly don't know God, but I know it was
Speaker 1: me and Mario Lopez and um and the Cario saved
Speaker 1: by the bell. You this feels like you must have been.
Speaker 1: It must have been. Yeah, I don't think they plucked
Speaker 1: Mario off Kids Incorporated to do that. You remember that
Speaker 1: he was pretty cutie. But yeah, wait, wait, okay, so
Speaker 1: you want to know my reoccurring dream. Of course, my
Speaker 1: reoccurring dream is um, I'd haven't had it in a while.
Speaker 1: But it's like when all my teeth and my mouth
Speaker 1: start to crumble. They're crumbling inside my mouth, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, oh my god, my mouth is a
Speaker 1: really common one. And then and then I opened my
Speaker 1: mouth and they all just like trickle out. All my
Speaker 1: teeth just crombs just come out. I've got to google
Speaker 1: what because it hurt. It hurts so bad to have
Speaker 1: that dream. You wake up, you'd be like, oh my god,
Speaker 1: that was terrible. It has a meaning because that's like
Speaker 1: a really literally I just typed in recurring dream and
Speaker 1: it Google came up with teeth falling out? Is it
Speaker 1: like a loss of power or like a frightening like
Speaker 1: I would say it's from your kids going to college?
Speaker 1: It says this dream could indicate that you're dealing with
Speaker 1: some kind of loss, like an abrupt end to a
Speaker 1: relationship or job change. But I'm wondering if you having
Speaker 1: empty nest. No, this is I've had it all my
Speaker 1: life so and I've I've had so much, like you know,
Speaker 1: loss of my family and loss of my dad, and
Speaker 1: so many traumatic things happened to me. So that's what
Speaker 1: it is, and you must have Yeah, you have trauma,
Speaker 1: and then it's just recurring, recurring, recurring. But the good
Speaker 1: news is I haven't had it for a while, so
Speaker 1: maybe I'm past it. That's actually even more fascinating that
Speaker 1: it stopped. Watch I'll have it tonight. But yeah, do
Speaker 1: you wake up a little shook it shook, shook up, Yeah,
Speaker 1: a little sweaty crying. Oh no, it's very scary. I
Speaker 1: was making light of it. And I apologize. This is
Speaker 1: not a last night. I woke up. It's funny. Sorry
Speaker 1: going off last night. I woke up and I was
Speaker 1: supposed to be at the doctor's office at six am, right,
Speaker 1: so I don't know. The day after, I was supposed
Speaker 1: to be at the doctor's office at six am. I
Speaker 1: woke up and I was like, it's six twenty. I'm
Speaker 1: supposed to be there at six am, but I had
Speaker 1: already gone and done everything. Yeah, And also my husband
Speaker 1: was like, and by the way, who's Richard Appairly I
Speaker 1: was calling out for Richard no sleep, Yeah, I don't
Speaker 1: know who. I don't know Richard. M Okay, that's interesting
Speaker 1: because that wouldn't kind of your husband, Like, I don't
Speaker 1: even blame him for being a little like wiggy like sidebar,
Speaker 1: that is an interesting dream, whereas Andrea's so stupid. I
Speaker 1: think she was really into it though, because there's some
Speaker 1: part of me that wants to say that Gab actually
Speaker 1: knew how to walk the high wire. Yeah, and that
Speaker 1: is why it came about. I love Dylan and the
Speaker 1: Yale shirt. On the other side, did you notice that
Speaker 1: he's wearing the Yale T shirt? And what about that?
Speaker 1: They did? So Dylan was there, Brandon was there, and
Speaker 1: and Gil and Mr Creepy was there, Mr crept teacher.
Speaker 1: Let me ask you how you're interpreting him. Is he
Speaker 1: like a great teacher or is it are they students
Speaker 1: way too close with him? I don't know. I didn't
Speaker 1: The only time you ever see him recently is in
Speaker 1: the newspaper office, right, I don't know. I feel like
Speaker 1: I would not want him to be my teacher. I
Speaker 1: can't decide, like if I was just a first time viewer,
Speaker 1: if he's the best teacher ever, or if it's like
Speaker 1: it's weird for a teacher to say call me Gil, like,
Speaker 1: but I don't know if I have my eyes on
Speaker 1: it or or is it creepy When he said I
Speaker 1: didn't know I had that effect on you. Yeah, right,
Speaker 1: it's just like ordering, I'm like, what's going on? But
Speaker 1: then he kind of redeemed himself that he was kind
Speaker 1: of giving her tough love about Yale, and then he
Speaker 1: was so proud when she decided on her own. So
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, Like in the end of the episode,
Speaker 1: I'm like, no, he's a great teacher. M hm. I
Speaker 1: don't know. I think it will will reveal itself soon.
Speaker 1: I'm hoping, can I can I tell you my little tidbits.
Speaker 1: I don't know if it's a tidbit, it's like a
Speaker 1: little thing. I just I have tidbits. In the DJ
Speaker 1: booth and on your lockers are Los Angeles radio stations
Speaker 1: stickers or something? There's a Yep, there's a k Rock sticker,
Speaker 1: either on a locker or in the DJ booth. There's
Speaker 1: like one or two point seven Kiss FM sticker, which
Speaker 1: is I Heart. So that's like we're on iHeart and
Speaker 1: that's Ryan Seacrest. Wasn't it before? Oh yeah, there was
Speaker 1: no I Heart, but there was one or two point
Speaker 1: seven Kiss FM, but it wasn't Ryan Seacrest. It was
Speaker 1: Rick D's Yes. And then there was a Kalos sticker
Speaker 1: which is so and they were the real stickers, so
Speaker 1: that was like very accurate, Like whoever did the set
Speaker 1: got the radio station stickers and the real ones and
Speaker 1: put them on the lockers and in the DJ's so cool. Well,
Speaker 1: they did a great job in the janitor's office as well,
Speaker 1: because I noticed a few nudies on the wall. They see,
Speaker 1: like pin up girls. It's right there in the janitor's
Speaker 1: office for everyone to see. Maybe you need to go
Speaker 1: in there and get like a mop or something, and
Speaker 1: all naked gals on the old janitor's walls and it
Speaker 1: was very subtle. But Brandon says to Gil Myers, oh,
Speaker 1: you have season tickets to the King's, which was accurate.
Speaker 1: The l A Kings are the l A hockey team,
Speaker 1: and obviously Jason Priestley is a such a big hockey
Speaker 1: player that I'm assuming they either wrote that line for
Speaker 1: him or he ad libbed it, because that would what
Speaker 1: would make sense to him, as opposed to being like,
Speaker 1: you got tickets to the Dodgers, you know, the Lakers.
Speaker 1: So I was this was for me an awesome episode
Speaker 1: other than the weird tight rope stuff, because I actually
Speaker 1: like Nikki. Yeah, she's so cute. They're so cute together.
Speaker 1: They're like little dollies. They're perfect for one another. And
Speaker 1: she's got a very cool personality. Yeah, and she sort
Speaker 1: of seems to disarm Brandon, like bring him back down
Speaker 1: to the ground level, you know. Yeah, I love her style,
Speaker 1: so I'm always just like completely into it. I think
Speaker 1: she's so cute, and she's very confident, like she's like, oh,
Speaker 1: because I'm I'm dating a senior, like she hasn't. She's
Speaker 1: very confident and it's it's cool. Yeah, she's cool. That's
Speaker 1: a cool character. Yeah. College counseling is kind of they're
Speaker 1: they're all worried about college. So I guess we're seniors
Speaker 1: going to go with that because we kind of skipped
Speaker 1: a year at some point of college I think. But uh,
Speaker 1: college counseling is a big deal, especially these days, like
Speaker 1: you can't like I have high school student, I've had
Speaker 1: to already go to college and one's about too, and
Speaker 1: there's they there's a big business around college counseling now
Speaker 1: of course, like oh my god, big money. The glaring
Speaker 1: thing in the episode to me was that Steve Sanders
Speaker 1: was possibly going to go to USC he I mean
Speaker 1: Mrs Teasley says he's got a D average. He says
Speaker 1: he's got a C average. Are you kidding me? You'd
Speaker 1: have to have you have to have like a four
Speaker 1: point five to go to USC now, Whereas I will
Speaker 1: admit in back thirty years ago it was he could
Speaker 1: get in there with seeds. But that was really like,
Speaker 1: oh things have changed about that? Yeah, definitely. I mean
Speaker 1: I didn't call that played really realistically to me. All
Speaker 1: the conversations they were having, those are very accurate conversations.
Speaker 1: I only know that from my daughters, but it's true.
Speaker 1: It's true. I did, uh, you know, feel that the
Speaker 1: moment that Nikki and Jason were having in the hallway
Speaker 1: was a little intimate. I totally agree with you. It
Speaker 1: was like, really, that's a lot of making out for school.
Speaker 1: Teacher is definitely gonna tap you and be like, get
Speaker 1: to class, do something. These these hoo lookans in the
Speaker 1: hallway making out, but they are they are cute. And
Speaker 1: then I, I mean, I know, we probably need to
Speaker 1: take a break or something because I really do want
Speaker 1: to get into the Kelly Dylan because that was major.
Speaker 1: But I have a really strange question for you about it. Okay,
Speaker 1: we'll hold your horses, all right. You asked me that
Speaker 1: question after the break, Okay, m hm, Amy, what was
Speaker 1: what's your burning question? Okay? I am totally bufuddled because
Speaker 1: I believe that Dylan obviously has feelings for for you, Kelly.
Speaker 1: I knew it when you came over, the way he talks,
Speaker 1: the way he was flirting with you at the peach bit.
Speaker 1: I'm also convinced he loves Brenda. So I'm completely confused
Speaker 1: because it's like, why did he call her at the
Speaker 1: end to tell her he loves her? I know, it's
Speaker 1: so confusing. It was like, and I don't mean to
Speaker 1: be like a weirdo, but it's like, really, I was like,
Speaker 1: what's going on? Well, I mean just from the beginning,
Speaker 1: I was like, why why is she going to Dylan's
Speaker 1: house to bring him some wrenches? That's the worst excuse
Speaker 1: I've ever heard. But she wanted to go, and I
Speaker 1: get it. I get it. If I were Kelly, I
Speaker 1: too would want to have time, not at school, not
Speaker 1: on the phone, to be face to face with this
Speaker 1: guy and figure out what in the world. But they
Speaker 1: did none of that. They didn't figure anything out. Nope,
Speaker 1: they just had a like I know, a little flirtation,
Speaker 1: a little flirtation. He was working on his motorcycle. I've
Speaker 1: never seen somebody get that greasy when they're fixing a motorcycle.
Speaker 1: But okay, I literally worship you because you notice the
Speaker 1: same thing I noticed. I wrote it looks like his
Speaker 1: shirt was splatter painted. I Relyn has oil spotches on
Speaker 1: his face. Okay, I said, boy, did Dylan get dirty
Speaker 1: fixing his bike? So we're on the same level, I
Speaker 1: feel like, but yeah, why does he say why does
Speaker 1: he call her at the end and say I love you?
Speaker 1: Obviously he's confused and conflicted as well. Yeah, Like, if
Speaker 1: we put our own and put everything aside, put aside
Speaker 1: that you portrayed Kelly, put aside that I actually prefer
Speaker 1: Kelly and Dylan to Brenda and Dylan. What's really happening
Speaker 1: with this character? Like I don't know, you know that
Speaker 1: part where he was on the phone with Brenda and
Speaker 1: he says I love you to Brenda in the phone,
Speaker 1: but he's staring right at Kelly. Also, that is like,
Speaker 1: that's like that emotional warfare right there. That is disrupt
Speaker 1: That scene stressed me out so bad because this was
Speaker 1: not we did not have mute necessarily, so he was
Speaker 1: covering the mouth part of the I know, and I'm like,
Speaker 1: she's gonna hear. She might hear her. I felt the
Speaker 1: same thing all of that. I was like when he
Speaker 1: went to the door, I was like, Okay, so he's
Speaker 1: gonna say, I gotta go. Let me call you right
Speaker 1: back before you open the door. No, he opens the
Speaker 1: door like this, like she can't hear through his hand. Like,
Speaker 1: I was like, I'm uncomfortable. I'm uncomfortable. Oh well, he
Speaker 1: did look good in that tank top. I will say that.
Speaker 1: I so agree. They are both so hot, Like because
Speaker 1: Brandon Jason is wearing what I would deem the ugliest
Speaker 1: blue shirt ever, but yet it looked amazing. Yeah, it
Speaker 1: looks good on him. I don't know how he pulled
Speaker 1: that off. I'm like, that is a Steve Sanders shirt
Speaker 1: and yet you look awesome. Yeah. I just I'm at
Speaker 1: this point in the third season, I just do not
Speaker 1: understand or get the way Dylan is handling this whole
Speaker 1: situation with Brenda and Kelly Like it's making me mad. Uh,
Speaker 1: And it's bringing up a lot of stuff for me,
Speaker 1: like from back to the Yeah, tell me more. I
Speaker 1: want to hear everything. Well, it's kind of hard to articulate,
Speaker 1: but being a young actress, honest set with a bunch
Speaker 1: of other young people, everybody's beautiful, you know, people are
Speaker 1: getting together and falling in love with one another, breaking up,
Speaker 1: like it was a very tight knit circle. And I
Speaker 1: don't know, just any time they would they would triangulate
Speaker 1: these storylines with Kelly and Dylan and Brenda, then Kelly
Speaker 1: and Brendan Brandon and Dylan like it. It was always
Speaker 1: I always just felt so somehow like hurt from it,
Speaker 1: Like it actually hurt me as a person to be
Speaker 1: that girl Kelly who is in Dylan's apartment and then
Speaker 1: leaves and he says I love you to someone else.
Speaker 1: You know, Yeah, it's painful, it's it does. It brings
Speaker 1: up some weird stuff for me. I don't know if
Speaker 1: you've ever had therapy, but I've therapy. Obviously. Everyone listening
Speaker 1: to like no girl, um and triangles are really actually unhealthy.
Speaker 1: I just was telling my husband this the other day.
Speaker 1: It's called triangulation, like when you do when you create
Speaker 1: a triangle and you are the middle, like you're one
Speaker 1: of the middle people getting information to someone else. So
Speaker 1: it's like it's like that, and it just is never
Speaker 1: It's never healthy because there's always going to be one
Speaker 1: person that is serving both people. So it gets nasty.
Speaker 1: And supposedly I'm not a therapist, so I'm just like,
Speaker 1: I'm just repeating what I've been told and I'm sure
Speaker 1: getting it wrong. Is that people are attracted to triangles.
Speaker 1: There's something in the like human condition that maybe certain
Speaker 1: people find appealing or you know whatever. The word is
Speaker 1: a tractative about it, and they're so unhealthy and I'm
Speaker 1: sure like on some double even as an actor, that
Speaker 1: was uncomfortable. Yeah, it was always uncomfortable for me because
Speaker 1: it's no secret I had a very strong feelings for Luke,
Speaker 1: you know, and and even just acting those scenes was
Speaker 1: really damaging for me on a deep psychological level. And
Speaker 1: it's and the damage has has come with me, you know,
Speaker 1: into my adult years, and it's made relationships really challenging
Speaker 1: because I am not a person that trusts people. And
Speaker 1: I and I always wonder, is it because of that
Speaker 1: those formative messages that I was living out as Kelly Wow,
Speaker 1: And I have to believe and you tell me because
Speaker 1: the show was so big and the fans were so
Speaker 1: and still are so passionate that it had to be
Speaker 1: excruciating to experience fans disliking Kelly so much. Yeah. I
Speaker 1: never really I never really felt that um that often
Speaker 1: because there was no social media. There was no way
Speaker 1: for me to really hear those negative remarks, and so
Speaker 1: I didn't really play in that world. But just internally
Speaker 1: it was it was wreckage, you know, because you didn't
Speaker 1: like what she was doing. Yeah, and I didn't like
Speaker 1: the way just that one moment when he was on
Speaker 1: the phone and he said I love you to Brenda
Speaker 1: and he looked at Kelly. I was like, Oh, that's
Speaker 1: that's it. That's that's like, why I don't I don't
Speaker 1: have to I can't trust. Yeah, And even though it
Speaker 1: wasn't real, it wasn't real, but it felt real. My
Speaker 1: feelings for Luke were very similar to Kelly's feelings for Dylan.
Speaker 1: Wo god wow. Yeah, it's just so much to take
Speaker 1: in because you all were so young, too so and
Speaker 1: so intertwined as characters and human beings, so that there
Speaker 1: there must be a moment where you're like, is this
Speaker 1: life or is this the show? Where is the line? Yeah?
Speaker 1: It got, it got blurred to the point where there
Speaker 1: really was no line anymore. And it's taken me years
Speaker 1: of therapy to try to like, like I want to cry. Yeah,
Speaker 1: it's really like I'm getting like it's making tears come
Speaker 1: in my eyes because then I think about it and
Speaker 1: I know this isn't your all his favorite topic, but
Speaker 1: I I can't ignore that there was conflict with certain
Speaker 1: actors on the set and that could have played into
Speaker 1: this too. It's really yeah, painful. Yeah, it was uncomfortable
Speaker 1: a lot of the time. Yeah, And I'm sure you
Speaker 1: take that with you even today because look, look, the
Speaker 1: elephant in the room is that you and Tori are
Speaker 1: very very close, but you're not as close with Shannon
Speaker 1: like I have to It's true, And how do we
Speaker 1: not know that some of this had to do with that,
Speaker 1: because you're all awesome people like Jenny, You're awesome, like
Speaker 1: for people listening with you, guys like and I'm not
Speaker 1: saying it to be like kiss your butt, but to
Speaker 1: say it to be real, Like I was having a
Speaker 1: conversation the other day with somebody, Oh my god, I'm
Speaker 1: gonna cry, and I was talking about you, and I'm like, yeah, no,
Speaker 1: Jenny's like my real friend, like it really, it's really
Speaker 1: so it makes me sad that this still lingers for you. God,
Speaker 1: I don't know why I'm such a weird girl. I
Speaker 1: love you so much, sugar man, because I feel bad
Speaker 1: for you, don't feel bad for me. I'm working it out.
Speaker 1: It's been a rough ride because I have people that
Speaker 1: I work with, but then I'm like, no, Jenny and Tori,
Speaker 1: I'm like friends with them, like we can get it's real. Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 1: I said it to somebody last night. I'm like, no,
Speaker 1: if they were a dinner with us, like I was
Speaker 1: with some girlfriends and like, no, they were here because
Speaker 1: they asked my job, and I'm like no, if they
Speaker 1: were here, like you wouldn't be like, oh I met
Speaker 1: dinner with these two actors to be like, oh, I'm
Speaker 1: just with my girlfriends. Yeah, we were have so much fun.
Speaker 1: We have to do that. But it's like it's hard
Speaker 1: that it's like this many years later and you watch
Speaker 1: that scene and it really takes you back. Yeah, enough
Speaker 1: of that. I hope they just get to already. It's
Speaker 1: so interesting, Like I think for people listening and they
Speaker 1: they'll tell us, I think that's interesting because look, you
Speaker 1: have a wonderful life, you're so successful, but there is
Speaker 1: a part of you that's like a little heartbroken by Yeah.
Speaker 1: I think we might have talked about this a little
Speaker 1: bit before, but it was that that point of impact
Speaker 1: for me, that that did that sort of damage that
Speaker 1: I grew up with, and and those beliefs that I
Speaker 1: grew up believing, you know that weren't actually accurate. And
Speaker 1: I feel like everybody has that moment of in there
Speaker 1: in either in their childhood or their teen years or
Speaker 1: their young adult years where something really has an impact
Speaker 1: on you. Something bad happens, a trauma of some kind
Speaker 1: or an experience of some kind of and it's it's
Speaker 1: it goes so much deeper than anybody really thinks about
Speaker 1: it as and it's all in here, it's all inside me.
Speaker 1: No one else is experiencing this or this pain or
Speaker 1: this confusion, and you know, the other people in the
Speaker 1: triangle aren't experiencing it, and it's a it's really they're
Speaker 1: able to separate themselves or something. But I you know, look,
Speaker 1: I'm not an actor, but from what I know in
Speaker 1: the conversations is that you all have to really draw
Speaker 1: on something, You really have to go to this place,
Speaker 1: so obviously you internalized this. If nothing else, it made
Speaker 1: me a better dramatic actress. Like, yeah, I had a
Speaker 1: lot more to pull from at that point. Do you
Speaker 1: hold yourself to a standard do you think as Jenny
Speaker 1: because of those things, that these things that they made
Speaker 1: an impact that you always pride yourself on being honest
Speaker 1: and you know, um righteous, like because you don't like that. Um.
Speaker 1: I think for many years I was just floundering trying
Speaker 1: to figure it out, and I was making tons of
Speaker 1: mistakes too, um, because I felt like that was okay
Speaker 1: that it was you know, it was okay to make
Speaker 1: those mistakes because I was seeing it all around me. Um.
Speaker 1: But it wasn't until probably in my late thirties early
Speaker 1: forties that I started to get more um at peace
Speaker 1: with everything and appreciate it rather than let it sort
Speaker 1: of take me on a wild ride full of fear.
Speaker 1: You know. Yeah. Yeah, it's like you had to forgive
Speaker 1: yourself for playing Kelly. But it's like, we all love
Speaker 1: Kelly too, but I get it, like that that was rough.
Speaker 1: She's sort of snuck over there, Like wow, you know
Speaker 1: she snuck over there. She is essentially betraying her but
Speaker 1: it does make me uncomfortable every scene with Brenda when
Speaker 1: she says you're my best friend, because I'm like no,
Speaker 1: and it's okay, and Kelly wants to be your best friend,
Speaker 1: but the damage has already been done, Like the door
Speaker 1: has already been opened and you can't really lock it now,
Speaker 1: I have to say. And we'll get to the lighter
Speaker 1: stuff because there's so much more. But it's like, maybe
Speaker 1: this is why this show impacts me. People listening why
Speaker 1: we I mean, I remembered that episode like it was
Speaker 1: yesterday that I saw. Oh, I don't know why with
Speaker 1: this episode everything I was saying the lines, I'm like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, how do I know this so well?
Speaker 1: And I haven't seen it in a while, so it
Speaker 1: wasn't like I just saw it a couple of weeks ago.
Speaker 1: Maybe that's why it meant so much to us and
Speaker 1: impacted you, because like maybe it was the age we
Speaker 1: were at. I don't know, but it's like, yeah, this
Speaker 1: isn't I mean, I watched The Walking Dead and I'm
Speaker 1: not wondering if I'm going to get attacked by zombies,
Speaker 1: and then I watched this and I'm frying on a
Speaker 1: podcast with you what the like, never know, you never know.
Speaker 1: Maybe you're having a hormonal moment. I don't know, but
Speaker 1: I think. I mean I watched like murder shows. I'm like,
Speaker 1: I'm good, and then I'm like this, and I'm like, oh,
Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe maybe it was our age. Yeah.
Speaker 1: I mean, I love it that you remember it like
Speaker 1: that because I don't. Oh my god, it was so
Speaker 1: weird this one in particular. Um, even with the key
Speaker 1: and Steve going into that, I knew the whole I
Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I literally know everything that's
Speaker 1: going to happen. Yeah, so weird. At the end of
Speaker 1: the thing, At the end of the I'm blanking right now.
Speaker 1: I swear to god, I watched it from beginning to end.
Speaker 1: Did Steve get the key or was there a key?
Speaker 1: What happened? So he gives the money so that he
Speaker 1: doesn't get in trouble. Yep, we're left knowing that, like,
Speaker 1: if Steve's got more money, the janitor is going to
Speaker 1: give him more access because he alludes to the fact like,
Speaker 1: you're not the first rich kid to pay me off
Speaker 1: to hook him up. Yeah, okay, so he's basically going
Speaker 1: to bribe him for the rest of his time in
Speaker 1: high school. There's definitely gonna be some sort of in
Speaker 1: a tanglement like that. M M. What about this weird
Speaker 1: scene when Andrea asks the boys, have you ever have you?
Speaker 1: Have you guys ever undressed me in your mind? Oh
Speaker 1: my god, it was so uncomfortable forty two levels. Forty
Speaker 1: two levels because it was like, first of all, that
Speaker 1: that was a little what I got. I actually got
Speaker 1: irate inside about this whole thing about because I've heard
Speaker 1: that line from Iron a million times that hey, you
Speaker 1: want to shake to go with those fries or something
Speaker 1: like that. He's talking about your ass shaking obviously, so
Speaker 1: it's so objectifying. And that was such a major like
Speaker 1: and I was gonna be I was going to be
Speaker 1: more horrified. This is so bad, but I'm going to
Speaker 1: say it if they didn't tell her they did, because
Speaker 1: I thought that is going to hurt her feeling so
Speaker 1: bad if they don't flirt back with her, because do
Speaker 1: you know what I'm saying. I was like, oh God,
Speaker 1: this is awful because I don't I don't want them
Speaker 1: to say yes, and I don't want them to say no,
Speaker 1: and I want this to not be happening like that
Speaker 1: It's like, da, I mean Andrea, they dressed her like
Speaker 1: she is I don't know the schoolmarm like, I don't
Speaker 1: know what. I didn't know what a school mom is,
Speaker 1: but that is the look Kenny. That almost that school mom.
Speaker 1: And then I'm like, don't say schoolmarmo knows what a
Speaker 1: mom is? What's a mom? Let be like it's a
Speaker 1: seventeen year old wearing blazers to school with vest and
Speaker 1: it's like, what is happening? Yeah? That was tricky. That's
Speaker 1: broad Andrea and the blazer invest who wears that? You
Speaker 1: know what? I did love though, when when she she
Speaker 1: is having her nightmare on on Nana's couch. Uh, she
Speaker 1: she wakes up from the nightmare and falls right on
Speaker 1: the ground. That made me laugh out loud when she
Speaker 1: she fell off the couch. This episode was so epic
Speaker 1: because it was like it was so classic nine o
Speaker 1: two one though. It's like we've got the drama, We've
Speaker 1: got the weird ass like dream, We've got like just
Speaker 1: all of it. It It was like, God, this show gave
Speaker 1: you everything because he gave you drama and like all comedy.
Speaker 1: Did you see the scene where um Brandon and I
Speaker 1: think Brandon was at his locker and he was either
Speaker 1: talking to Nikki or to Steve, and there were background
Speaker 1: actors behind him at their lockers, but they were fully
Speaker 1: making out, stealing the whole scene. Like all I could
Speaker 1: watch was these two guys in the and the weirdest
Speaker 1: part about it for me was like, I was like, Wow,
Speaker 1: our show was so amazingly ahead of the times to
Speaker 1: have two guys kissing each other. But it wasn't two guys.
Speaker 1: It was a girl and a guy. But for a
Speaker 1: while I thought that was awesome. I didn't think the
Speaker 1: background actors were extremely like noticeable in this episode, and
Speaker 1: I thought it was because so on a different podcast,
Speaker 1: I will admit I'm learning about background acting. So then
Speaker 1: I thought, oh, you're just noticing this because you're like
Speaker 1: so into background acting out And then I was just like,
Speaker 1: I don't know what's happening, but yes, I noticed the
Speaker 1: background actors prominently in this episode. You know, we haven't
Speaker 1: even talked about which I can't even believe it at first.
Speaker 1: Of all, no parents, no parents are going to say
Speaker 1: to their twin children, only which one of you gets
Speaker 1: to go away to college the other one doesn't, And
Speaker 1: we'll let you know on Friday. Who it's gonna be like.
Speaker 1: I was literally like, this happens never. What parents would
Speaker 1: do is say we have this much money, you're each
Speaker 1: getting half and then you'll have to work and pay
Speaker 1: for the other years or get no. No. I just
Speaker 1: I wrote in my notes, how can Jim and Cindy
Speaker 1: pick just one kid? I was literally like, And then
Speaker 1: the fight in the kitchen Jim, Cindy and Brenda and
Speaker 1: Brandon and they're just going at it like no. Two
Speaker 1: parents are gonna be like, well, okay, now kids, Like
Speaker 1: what like you'd say, none of you are going to college?
Speaker 1: Both of you are going to Like no, parents are like,
Speaker 1: we're gonna pick one again. We'll let you know Friday. Well,
Speaker 1: what did you did you see the scene where they're
Speaker 1: both talking to Mrs Teasley and they did that like
Speaker 1: bad swipe editing Stamford, Stamford, Boston, Boston. It was so
Speaker 1: weird because I love a good twin moment. I love
Speaker 1: it when the twins are together, and like when they're
Speaker 1: when I think in this episode of the last one,
Speaker 1: they were riding around in the convertible and he was
Speaker 1: giving advice to her and they were talking. I love
Speaker 1: those scenes. I do too, but I was like, what
Speaker 1: is honey? And then I did think it was kind
Speaker 1: of interesting though how Jim admitted like it's the recession
Speaker 1: and we've had some investments go wrong. Like yeah, we
Speaker 1: definitely were not to interpret like they're rich. Well why
Speaker 1: did why did he go and splurte for the beach
Speaker 1: club membership? Then old Jimbo, do you spend all the
Speaker 1: college kids money? All the kids college money? It's got
Speaker 1: to take out the second mortgage. And I was like,
Speaker 1: oh my god, this is that was amazing and then
Speaker 1: I you know, look the college stuff. Brandon was a
Speaker 1: baby once again, Brandon was being a big fat baby. Yeah.
Speaker 1: He was so like tend to get everything, even though
Speaker 1: like Brenda does get everything, Like fine, Mom, I'll just
Speaker 1: I'll go to u c. L A. And I'll get
Speaker 1: a job and earn my own way. So dramatic. I
Speaker 1: never really thought he was so dramatic. And the Walshes
Speaker 1: are not those kind of parents. That's the other thing
Speaker 1: was like, come on, maybe some I don't know any
Speaker 1: parents that would say picked between two kids, but especially
Speaker 1: not the Walshes. No, it's impossible, it would be impossible.
Speaker 1: If you have twins, just get ready because they're both
Speaker 1: gonna want to go to college, So start start saving now,
Speaker 1: wait or pay for I don't know. That just was like,
Speaker 1: I mean, we had a brief Sue Scanlin mo mint brief.
Speaker 1: Very I think they're just trying to keep her alive.
Speaker 1: Like was it was. She just literally walked by and
Speaker 1: said hi, David and was yeah, yeah, And then I
Speaker 1: think Steve was like, who's this hottie or something like that,
Speaker 1: and then David's like, that's sou Scanlin, like stepping gross
Speaker 1: or whatever. We did have some amazing fashion I am
Speaker 1: so obsessed with the There's a scene with Kelly and Donna,
Speaker 1: and Donna's wearing the black white checker, but Kelly is
Speaker 1: wearing the pants with the suspenders, and I was like, oh,
Speaker 1: five stars. I loved that, like a good suspender moment.
Speaker 1: Loved and it was just so fashion forward and just
Speaker 1: freaking cool. I didn't have. I did not appreciate um
Speaker 1: iron I mean Steve's shirts this episode, they were all
Speaker 1: buttoned right, bad pants too, he just had. He is
Speaker 1: like the victim of some real bad fashion choice. I
Speaker 1: think they're spending a lot more time on the female
Speaker 1: costumes than thank God. Definitely, But I do always love
Speaker 1: the accurate references to Los Angeles, Like when Brenda's like, Hey,
Speaker 1: do you want to go to a movie? Oh? No,
Speaker 1: Kelly said, you want to go to a movie in Westwood,
Speaker 1: and then Brenda's like, I can, I gotta go to Dylan's.
Speaker 1: But's like, that's where we go to movies, Like that
Speaker 1: was totally from Beverly Hills. That's absolutely where you would go.
Speaker 1: I guess I've never gone shopping in Beverly Hills, but
Speaker 1: you've never gone to the movies in Westwood. Oh I've
Speaker 1: been there for premiere once. Yeah. Yeah, Like that's like Westwoods.
Speaker 1: Like I definitely would be, like, I'll go to the
Speaker 1: movies in Westwood? Do you go shopping on I haven't
Speaker 1: been to a movie for years? What are movies? Well?
Speaker 1: Would you go shopping on Rodeo? Drive them in Beverly Hills? Never?
Speaker 1: But I love it the people come here and do that,
Speaker 1: Like that's awesome. They totally didn't Once in a Blue
Speaker 1: Moon because there's like a Ralph Laurence store. It is
Speaker 1: the only one, and I love their betting, so I
Speaker 1: do have to go in there for that but no,
Speaker 1: I only go to Beverly Hills to see my dentist,
Speaker 1: Dr Larry. Yeah, I'll go anywhere for Dr Larry. I'm
Speaker 1: not gonna lie. Haven't been in Beverly Hills in two
Speaker 1: years either, because I like, I'm on I live on
Speaker 1: the west side, so it's like that's I'm not going over.
Speaker 1: I'm not going east of the four oh five. Could
Speaker 1: you imagine driving to my house? Do it? I have
Speaker 1: to pack a suitcase like that's so far from you did?
Speaker 1: Like three tanks a gas probably brown Wood to pass
Speaker 1: Sadena is no joke, no joke. Um wait, okay what
Speaker 1: about this part? This got me? When what's the guy?
Speaker 1: Is his name? B J? No? What? B J Harrison? Yeah,
Speaker 1: oh yeah, he's like the older guy. He says to Steve.
Speaker 1: I wanted I wanted him to stop saying this, every office,
Speaker 1: every filing cabinet, every grade bank, every office, every filing cabinet,
Speaker 1: every grade bank. Again, what is a grade bank? We don't.
Speaker 1: I really wanted him to stop that guy. And then
Speaker 1: he called another favorite thing of mine was he calls
Speaker 1: Steve lame brain. Okay, lame brain. That was a good one,
Speaker 1: so good. Okay, here's my question. And again I'm like, not,
Speaker 1: I don't even make television, Like I literally so I
Speaker 1: have no business saying this. The scene with the motorcycle,
Speaker 1: and I noticed this about Dylan's house a couple of times.
Speaker 1: Now it doesn't look like you're outside, We're not. We're
Speaker 1: not outside. Would they just brought in a few trees
Speaker 1: and it really fixing his motorcycle in his living room
Speaker 1: because this is not outside, Like, yeah, I'm sure that
Speaker 1: was a like a lighting thing. They couldn't. I don't
Speaker 1: know something, But did you notice Okay, this stood out
Speaker 1: to me so much in the scene where Kelly and
Speaker 1: Dylan are at the motorcycle. Did you notice what you
Speaker 1: did with your hand? I touched something, sexy touched the
Speaker 1: motor sexy touched the Yeah, I was like petted. It
Speaker 1: was that instinctual, like did Jenny just do that? It
Speaker 1: was she directed to do that, like because it was
Speaker 1: like you couldn't be overtly flirty or sexy, so everything
Speaker 1: was subtle and it was like I was like, I
Speaker 1: literally wrote hand hand Ham you have some good lines too,
Speaker 1: because uh, In the first of all, the art class
Speaker 1: was so no high school art class is drawing nude women.
Speaker 1: But that's true Kelly's if she starts passing out crystals,
Speaker 1: I'm out of here. To me, I'd be like, give
Speaker 1: me a crystal. I love this. I know whatever it
Speaker 1: takes to like keep keep me saying I will do.
Speaker 1: But that was classic. Along the lines of like favorite
Speaker 1: our favorite lines from the episode, Andrea had one that
Speaker 1: just made me say wow when she's on the high
Speaker 1: wire again for like, I think it might be the
Speaker 1: third time in the show. Yeah, she says when she
Speaker 1: kicks Gil off the thing she says, Austa La Vista baby?
Speaker 1: Was this during the terminator? Like, where is she going
Speaker 1: to get that Austo Visa baby? All right, they stock
Speaker 1: that right from the terminator. I'll be back. Oh my god,
Speaker 1: I love this whole episode. So many fun things to
Speaker 1: talk about. I love when Nikki and Brandon are kissing
Speaker 1: and Dylan just walks by and says, glad to see
Speaker 1: you've gotten over this age thing. It's so good because
Speaker 1: the characters are all like, the people are all like
Speaker 1: forming these relationships and you see it come across on
Speaker 1: screen and it's really fun to watch. God, every single
Speaker 1: thing was so good. Oh, I mean, first of all,
Speaker 1: I'm sorry Tor is not here. Tory, We'll be back.
Speaker 1: She'll tell why she's not here. We miss her. God,
Speaker 1: I love us. We laugh. We laugh a lot. Him
Speaker 1: how did I cry and laugh hysterically? I laughed, I
Speaker 1: have to go take an ad vilis No, You're awesome.
Speaker 1: You're awesome. You are you are, Like, I love you
Speaker 1: so much, festive you because it's real, Like everyone's like,
Speaker 1: it's not like we're just be bop and watching a show,
Speaker 1: and it's like we are really like watching this and
Speaker 1: we care about it, and the best part of it,
Speaker 1: we can care so deeply about it one second and
Speaker 1: then be laughing hysterically at it the second time, like
Speaker 1: we're so all over the place, and it's just you
Speaker 1: were there and I was like this was important to
Speaker 1: me too, you know, like it was like it means
Speaker 1: something watching it back. I don't know, it's like looking
Speaker 1: at my high school yearbook or something, you know, like going, oh,
Speaker 1: reminiscing about like a college boyfriend or I don't know.
Speaker 1: I don't know. I am loving the show though. In
Speaker 1: the third season, totally hooked. Yeah, I got to talk
Speaker 1: to you guys at the right time. I got lucky.
Speaker 1: I think that's it. We've we've really covered the out
Speaker 1: of this episode. We can't do it anymore. People are like,
Speaker 1: stop talking about it, okay, So I love that. Somebody
Speaker 1: might just be like, I've got nothing of that. Probably not.
Speaker 1: I'm sure you check those comments say because they're going
Speaker 1: to get ugly. I read them all. I love them.
Speaker 1: I love them. I also I laughed so hard because
Speaker 1: I really tried hard on my hair for I am sad.
Speaker 1: He wrote the funniest thing, your hair looks your amy,
Speaker 1: Your hair looks exactly the same. I read every single one.
Speaker 1: Now I noticed a beautiful blow out that day, not today,
Speaker 1: not today. Oh my god, I love you so much.
Speaker 1: What are we watching that? Next week is season three,
Speaker 1: episode ten, Home and Away. Oh I can't wait. I
Speaker 1: don't know what it means, but it's going to be good.
Speaker 1: Thank you so much for everybody for listening. I just
Speaker 1: want to give a gratitude moment for all of our
Speaker 1: listeners and all the fans that made the show successful
Speaker 1: and helping us to make this podcast successful. And it's
Speaker 1: it's just so heartwarming to be able to sit down
Speaker 1: and talk about something that that form, you know, formed
Speaker 1: me and you know, and it was so important in
Speaker 1: both Tori and my life. And we're so appreciative of
Speaker 1: everybody's time, and we hope we're entertaining you. Maybe we're
Speaker 1: not giving the best, you know, episode breakdown, but we
Speaker 1: are sure doing our our best. We're doing all we can.
Speaker 1: I love you all right, everybody have a good one.