Speaker 1: Ay Is Brick and Jeffrey and this is your brand
Speaker 1: new Second Date podcast.
Speaker 2: Thanks so much for being here.
Speaker 1: And yesterday's Awkward Tuesday was really a lesson on why
Speaker 1: you should never hire your friends. Did it actually turned
Speaker 1: out great for him? He wasn't doing the job, but
Speaker 1: then somehow got promoted above her.
Speaker 2: Whatever he's doing, he's doing it right.
Speaker 1: Yeah, hopefully she'll take the time to figure out that
Speaker 1: she is happy for him in the end.
Speaker 2: But we definitely got some comments on the situation Alexis.
Speaker 1: Yeah.
Speaker 3: Well, someone said in all caps, we need an update
Speaker 3: from that awkward Tuesday, you.
Speaker 2: Know what happens to her? And someone else said, I
Speaker 2: love awkward Tuesdays.
Speaker 3: Please consider doing awkward Wednesdays, Thursdays, Fridays.
Speaker 2: I need one more awkward day in the week. Oh man, god,
Speaker 2: that would be a lot.
Speaker 3: Yeah, and then a lot of other comments saying why
Speaker 3: is she happy for her best friend? And then other
Speaker 3: people saying, wait, what kind of company promotes a guy
Speaker 3: that sounds like he never shows up.
Speaker 4: One person that said, hey, I hired my best friend
Speaker 4: as my manager and I work with my husband is
Speaker 4: my boss.
Speaker 2: Oh my god.
Speaker 4: I was like, She's like, it's great, but I was
Speaker 4: for now.
Speaker 2: For now, it's a very very tight knit. Yeah, you
Speaker 2: gotta be careful with that one. It's a careful balance then, yeah,
Speaker 2: for sure.
Speaker 1: Well, we always love reading your comments, So thank you
Speaker 1: so much for being.
Speaker 2: Here and for participating and for subscribing. We love that too.
Speaker 2: We're going to start your brand new second date right now.
Speaker 4: Second Date update. We've been doing second date updates on
Speaker 4: our show for what now over ten years?
Speaker 2: Yeah, no longer.
Speaker 1: Like one hundred years, fifty yeah, seventy five.
Speaker 4: Somewhere around there. And it's interesting because when we first started,
Speaker 4: we found it so weird that more and more people
Speaker 4: were meeting strangers from online, and now we find it
Speaker 4: odd that more and more people are choosing to go
Speaker 4: back to meeting up in person again. Yeah, who wants
Speaker 4: to do that?
Speaker 2: It's so weird. We've kind of come full circle.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I know. I met her at a bar and
Speaker 4: we're like, was it scary? Yeah, exactly how I'm feeling
Speaker 4: about today's listener who reached out to us Mia, she
Speaker 4: needs our help. Mia, What were you thinking meeting a
Speaker 4: guy in person? I must have been terrifying for you.
Speaker 5: Well, I mean it was at a friends housewarming party,
Speaker 5: so you know if there were a bunch of people there.
Speaker 1: So you didn't you didn't scream and run until thirty
Speaker 1: minutes into.
Speaker 5: The Yeah, I mean he might be the one who
Speaker 5: screamed and ran. I'm pulling into him.
Speaker 4: Okay, you met him at a house party. You had
Speaker 4: mutual friends there. Clearly what's the guy's name?
Speaker 5: Uh, Owen is his name?
Speaker 2: Can I ask real quick?
Speaker 1: Was this like a mutual setup type of stitch?
Speaker 2: No?
Speaker 5: I don't think so. I mean she certainly didn't say
Speaker 5: anything to me if it was Okay, stay with me
Speaker 5: because it sounds a little nerdy. But he was dominating charades.
Speaker 6: Yes, that word when you say house party, I was
Speaker 6: picturing like beer paul games like that.
Speaker 2: The game fish Bowls so popular.
Speaker 1: I've had every party with my friend. You could drink
Speaker 1: fish Bowls at the same time you play.
Speaker 5: Yeah, there was a bit of alcohol going around for sure.
Speaker 4: So tell us about the connection that you and Owen
Speaker 4: like had that happen.
Speaker 5: Well. I went up to him afterwards and was just like, Wow,
Speaker 5: that was pretty impressive. You're really great at that, and
Speaker 5: like I'm a terrible mime, and so I was like, wow,
Speaker 5: you know, and then the very next day he reached
Speaker 5: out to me through our mutual friend Julia. He got
Speaker 5: got my number through her, I know, yay.
Speaker 1: Yeah, and he took an extra step to even make
Speaker 1: it happen.
Speaker 5: Yeah, he took initiative and we were just sort of
Speaker 5: texting kind of casually back and forth, but pretty quickly
Speaker 5: he turned it into a date. He was like, let's
Speaker 5: go to this retro arcade bade.
Speaker 2: They serve drinks there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, it's like a bar, but then there's like you know,
Speaker 5: old video games and there's like pinball and stuff.
Speaker 2: What was it like between you YouTube? And it was
Speaker 2: just one on one.
Speaker 5: I thought it was really good. I mean we met there,
Speaker 5: but he had dressed up. You know, he looked really
Speaker 5: great and that's.
Speaker 4: Kind of cute to the bar the arcade.
Speaker 2: Yeah, what do you mean dressed up?
Speaker 5: Did I get a tuxedo or no? Not like touch
Speaker 5: but like I don't know, just like it puts some
Speaker 5: karendu it.
Speaker 4: Yeah, the fact that he has pants on, that's a
Speaker 4: big win or a.
Speaker 2: Big loss, depending on what kind of date you're true.
Speaker 4: If it's going that well, you might want them off.
Speaker 5: So her first date, I'll take the pants.
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, fair, fair, So I mean, what were the
Speaker 4: highlights or low lights? Like paint the picture for us?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm really good at pinball, so it meant that
Speaker 5: I kind of got to show off that time.
Speaker 6: Yeah, oh is this really a flex?
Speaker 1: Yeah, she's a flipper queen.
Speaker 5: She was.
Speaker 4: I don't know, he took over the high score? Is
Speaker 4: that where we're at where we're looking for in a
Speaker 4: in a significant other.
Speaker 1: I just think anytime someone can nerd out about something
Speaker 1: that they're excited about is a positive passion. Is he
Speaker 1: rooting you on at the pinball machine?
Speaker 5: Totally? Yeah? And it's just really fun. He had that
Speaker 5: same kind of energy as the first night that I've
Speaker 5: seen him. Am just being really funny and really upbeed.
Speaker 5: And he shows me this picture of himself from high
Speaker 5: school that a friend had sent to him, and I'm like, oh, yeah,
Speaker 5: you know he's kind of dorky then, but he goes, no, no, no,
Speaker 5: look over there, the bartender has my same haircut. That's awesome.
Speaker 5: You know, you can kind of just like poke fun
Speaker 5: at himself.
Speaker 1: And I thought, you got bartender in the photo and
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm sorry, bartender in the arcade.
Speaker 2: Has the same photo.
Speaker 1: It has the same haircut as him in high school.
Speaker 2: I thought the picture, I get it.
Speaker 4: Okay, So you both went over to the bartender and
Speaker 4: gave him a wedgie.
Speaker 5: There was a nice kiss at my cars I was
Speaker 5: leaving good. Yeah, I mean it seems like a really
Speaker 5: good date. Like there there's no reflect but that was
Speaker 5: six days ago. He didn't ghost me, but he's not
Speaker 5: initiating any conversation, and he's like one word responses like
Speaker 5: I'm like, hey, how was your days? Like good?
Speaker 1: Oh, yeah, that feels so bad. Sometimes I'm like I
Speaker 1: just wish they just leave you alone. Then yeah, you know,
Speaker 1: like why why even write the one word?
Speaker 4: I mean, sometimes I'll.
Speaker 6: Say that, but then I'll follow it if I'm really
Speaker 6: busy with being like good and then be like sorry,
Speaker 6: it's short text.
Speaker 4: I'm really busy. Like we'll talk to you know, like
Speaker 4: just a clarify because it does feel kind of mia,
Speaker 4: What did you think he meant by good?
Speaker 5: Well, I'm distiggering. He doesn't want to hear from me,
Speaker 5: but he's not ghosting me because we have this mutual friend.
Speaker 5: I asked her about it, and she's like, oh, he
Speaker 5: didn't see anything to me, because you guys are going
Speaker 5: to see.
Speaker 4: Each other maybe, so all right, the vibe that he's
Speaker 4: kind of politely trying to avoid you now, so we
Speaker 4: need to figure out what's really going on.
Speaker 2: We're not gonna let that happen. Well no, no, no, no.
Speaker 4: Answer though that's his answer, like, oh, I'm not interested. No,
Speaker 4: We're gonna make fun of him for that answer.
Speaker 1: That haircut he had in high school exactly.
Speaker 4: We're gonna bully him into a second date with you,
Speaker 4: whether he wants it or not. When we come back,
Speaker 4: call him and get you your second date update.
Speaker 5: Go get him.
Speaker 4: We'll do it next second date update. Every man knows
Speaker 4: if a woman tells you it's fine. Yeah, things are
Speaker 4: not fine at all. So when our listener Mia texted
Speaker 4: her date Owen, asking how his day was going, and
Speaker 4: he replied good, she knew instantly yikes. Good, that's bad, right, Mia? Yeah?
Speaker 1: I think so.
Speaker 4: Yeah, I'm laughing because every single person in the room
Speaker 4: is totally following along. The girls are like, yeah, that's right,
Speaker 4: that's true.
Speaker 2: Doesn't everyone agree with that?
Speaker 1: I mean even I have to agree, but come on,
Speaker 1: that's a little better than fine.
Speaker 2: Though, there's hope.
Speaker 4: It's just it's weird because your arcade date, the way
Speaker 4: you described it to us sounded like it went just fine.
Speaker 4: Like I would go as far to say it went good.
Speaker 4: But maybe that's bad.
Speaker 1: I don't know it went great because there was a
Speaker 1: kiss at the end.
Speaker 4: Yeah, that is undeniably, But who knows what words mean anymore.
Speaker 4: So it's safer to just call Owen and ask for
Speaker 4: his thoughts directly on it.
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes you got to read between the lines. Jeff.
Speaker 1: It's not just black and white all the time.
Speaker 4: Oh, I see what you're saying. I'm reading in between
Speaker 4: the lines of that sentence. Right, should you be? Yeah?
Speaker 2: Want you this message.
Speaker 4: I don't know what to do other than just dial
Speaker 4: Owen's number and pray that he answers. Okay, Nia, good
Speaker 4: luck to us on this.
Speaker 5: Good luck to you. What about me?
Speaker 2: It's more about her than than you or me.
Speaker 4: You have to read between the lines of what I said.
Speaker 2: To take literally.
Speaker 4: I only wanted to mention it. You know what, It's fine.
Speaker 4: I'm just gonna out to the number. Here we go. Hello, Hey,
Speaker 4: is this Owen?
Speaker 7: Yes, Zone, who is this hey man?
Speaker 4: Thanks for answering. We're a radio show. We're called Brook
Speaker 4: and Jeffrey in the Morning.
Speaker 2: Hey, Owen, welcome to the show.
Speaker 4: How's it going, Owen, I'm saving that one.
Speaker 2: That's pretty good clever.
Speaker 4: Owing you there?
Speaker 7: Uh yeah, I just what's going on?
Speaker 4: Sorry? Hey man? So, yeah, this is it's a segment
Speaker 4: we do. It's called a second Date Update.
Speaker 7: Okay, Okay.
Speaker 4: I don't know if you're familiar with it.
Speaker 7: But I'm not familiar with it now.
Speaker 4: Okay, Well, just to clue you in, it's basically where
Speaker 4: we help out our listeners. If they've gone out with
Speaker 4: somebody on a date recently and they're not getting a
Speaker 4: call back for a second meet up, they come to
Speaker 4: us to try and reach out and figure out if
Speaker 4: there's a reason why.
Speaker 7: Okay, okay.
Speaker 4: And so we heard through the grapevine that you are
Speaker 4: really good at charades.
Speaker 1: Oh, which it is so disappointing this is a radio
Speaker 1: show because there's no way for us to tell.
Speaker 4: Yeah, we can't you prove it.
Speaker 7: So where about trades now, I'm sorry, it's still pretty random.
Speaker 4: Yeah, So I know that's a little bit of a
Speaker 4: deep cut. But we heard that from Mia, the girl
Speaker 4: that you went on a date with after the housewarming
Speaker 4: party you met her at?
Speaker 2: Did you like Mia? Do you guys have a good time?
Speaker 7: The date was pretty good. But a few days later
Speaker 7: I did look her up on social media?
Speaker 4: Okay, okay, yeah, that's very normals. How does that change things?
Speaker 7: Look, I don't know if I'm comfortable telling you guys.
Speaker 1: I mean, it's on social media. It's obviously not something
Speaker 1: she's trying to hide.
Speaker 2: What did you see, like a.
Speaker 4: Picture or a post?
Speaker 7: Okay, I guess I'll just tell you guys. So she
Speaker 7: was in like a wedding dress, doing like wedding things,
Speaker 7: doing what wedding things? I mean I didn't see her
Speaker 7: like with a groom or anything, but she was there
Speaker 7: in the wedding dress.
Speaker 2: Whoa?
Speaker 4: And so how are you're reading that? As she's obviously married.
Speaker 6: You don't just put on a wedding dress usually, well,
Speaker 6: modeling people.
Speaker 4: Do wedding dress Wednesdays at the office, we do that,
Speaker 4: some wedding dress Wednesday. Why was that to hold Jeff's vail?
Speaker 4: How are you reading that? Owen?
Speaker 7: I'm not sure exactly how to read it.
Speaker 1: Yeah, but that's so weird?
Speaker 2: Like you are you think about it?
Speaker 1: Ohen you got her phone number? From your guys's mutual friend, Like,
Speaker 1: why wouldn't your mutual friend have given you a heads
Speaker 1: up if she was married?
Speaker 2: Yeah, there's no chance.
Speaker 7: I did speak to our mutual friend and she's only
Speaker 7: known her for a few months. So okay, he doesn't
Speaker 7: know about it. I mean, I don't know if that
Speaker 7: means it did or didn't happen. We're not sure.
Speaker 2: Well, you can't write her off.
Speaker 1: You got to just ask her.
Speaker 7: You know, I don't really want to be a part
Speaker 7: of any kind of drama. I mean, if she got married,
Speaker 7: I mean, if it's new or old, it's just not
Speaker 7: something I don't think I'm going to be into.
Speaker 1: But you don't know what it is yet.
Speaker 4: Yeah, And the good news is these second date calls
Speaker 4: usually very low drama. And we can prove that to
Speaker 4: you by introducing you to Mia on the other line
Speaker 4: of this call, who's been quietly listening the entire time.
Speaker 7: Oh and why is she on the phone.
Speaker 4: Well that's kind of how we make this segment work,
Speaker 4: is briving them quietly listening to hear the reason they're
Speaker 4: not getting called back.
Speaker 7: But you need to tell me stuff that if I'm
Speaker 7: going to say stuff like that.
Speaker 4: Well, that's going to make it more dramatic. I'm trying
Speaker 4: to give it low drama on the line, Brar.
Speaker 2: It's on her social media. She knows it's there.
Speaker 1: Yeah, you could have said much worse.
Speaker 2: Yes, now she has a chance.
Speaker 4: To explain, So go ahead and me a jump in.
Speaker 4: And what's the deal with your wedding dress picture that
Speaker 4: you have online?
Speaker 5: Okay, I did do a photo shoot in a wedding dress.
Speaker 4: Why why what's the point of that.
Speaker 1: She's like, it was for a wedding that I was
Speaker 1: but you know, a wedding, yes, but I'm not married.
Speaker 5: It was sort of a wedding without a groom, you know,
Speaker 5: like I want to get married sometime. I love love.
Speaker 5: And my friend was like, look, you have been wanting
Speaker 5: this for so long and you're not doing anything about it.
Speaker 5: You need to do more to manifest it in the world,
Speaker 5: you know, to like put the desire out there. So
Speaker 5: I just did this little wedding and a photo shoot,
Speaker 5: had a little party, like we cut cake, I dance
Speaker 5: with my dad. I mean, yeah, it's like I wanted
Speaker 5: to party and I wanted to like just put it
Speaker 5: out into the world that I'm ready for that's I mean,
Speaker 5: what is Owen?
Speaker 4: Okay? Yeah? Oh, and that's not weird right herself?
Speaker 7: Yeah, I think that's pretty weird.
Speaker 4: Really, I mean I'm not conventional, that's for sure. Yeah, sure,
Speaker 4: but weird.
Speaker 6: I mean she's infesting, right, they always say like boards
Speaker 6: and stuff.
Speaker 4: Look, it seems like you're a little bit on the
Speaker 4: fence about this. Where is your head?
Speaker 2: I don't know.
Speaker 1: I mean I could see both sides, Like it's a
Speaker 1: lot to give any other single person all at once.
Speaker 3: I think you need to edit the caps on that
Speaker 3: photo to say I am not married, you know.
Speaker 1: I don't know that that helps.
Speaker 4: My future wedding.
Speaker 2: I don't know, Owen, where are you at with this?
Speaker 7: Well, I don't know. I mean, like you said, the
Speaker 7: guy or guys that you're gonna date, you're gonna see this.
Speaker 7: So that could put a lot of pressure on a person.
Speaker 4: Okay, clearly we need to get you into a tuxedo
Speaker 4: and have you slow dance with your mom for you
Speaker 4: to really understand what's going on here.
Speaker 5: I just feel like my doing this means I got
Speaker 5: the party, so it actually takes the pressure off of
Speaker 5: any guy that I'm dating.
Speaker 4: Sure, nodding, see if you ever get married doesn't even count.
Speaker 2: Then, Hey, second weddings count. People have second wedding.
Speaker 4: Do you divorce yourself then and then start over. It's
Speaker 4: not a legal marriage, Jose, don't have to worry about
Speaker 4: all the minutia. It's okay. The bottom line we're trying
Speaker 4: to figure out is fake wedding pictures aside. Do you
Speaker 4: feel like you have a connection with each other?
Speaker 1: You guys sounded so cute together, like you bonded, You
Speaker 1: had great you had great chemistry.
Speaker 4: You got to the bottom of this really quickly, good
Speaker 4: first kiss, And if any of that is true, then
Speaker 4: it's worth pursuing another date, and we would pay for it.
Speaker 7: I gotta be honest with you. I don't think this
Speaker 7: is going to work out between us, and I'm just
Speaker 7: gonna bow out.
Speaker 1: Ah, he's got cold feet.
Speaker 4: Owen, she's good at pinball. You can't forget that.
Speaker 7: She's actually great at pinball. And I wish you would
Speaker 7: have posted that on social media.
Speaker 4: But she still can. If you're willing to give her
Speaker 4: a shot, she'll just be in a wedding dress.
Speaker 5: Oh and I had a really fun time on our date.
Speaker 5: I thought we had a really good connection. And I
Speaker 5: just don't know why this feels so weird because I
Speaker 5: want to be married and that's not that unusual.
Speaker 4: Well, I mean, the picture is a little bit unusual,
Speaker 4: especially the photo of you dancing with your dad and
Speaker 4: cutting the wedding cake and throwing the bouquet.
Speaker 1: I bet you had a lot of likes, so that's true.
Speaker 1: My wedding photo has got me so many likes.
Speaker 2: Maybe I should take something.
Speaker 4: But all in I mean, this is the last time
Speaker 4: I'll ask, will you give me one more chance? It
Speaker 4: sounds like you're asking give me. I'm down on one knee.
Speaker 4: Will cakena to be your lawfully wedded date date for
Speaker 4: one night? One more night, and we'll pay for it.
Speaker 7: I hate to say it again, but but just no.
Speaker 5: Well I don't have to wonder anymore. So thank you.
Speaker 1: You maybe make your social media private and that way
Speaker 1: you can explain it before people see it.
Speaker 5: Mikeelan to put it out in the universe. It's not
Speaker 5: to be private. It's going to be out there public
Speaker 5: for everybody to see. And maybe that's my screening mechanism.
Speaker 5: If a guy can't handle it, then not right for me.
Speaker 2: Okay.
Speaker 1: Her new handle is when Mia gets married.
Speaker 4: Oh yeah, for the next twenty years of dating me. Yeah,
Speaker 4: Jeffrey in the morning, Man, I don't I don't know
Speaker 4: if I can do these much longer. Why I get
Speaker 4: too invested, So when they say no, I feel like
Speaker 4: I'm getting rejected.
Speaker 6: For a second, Yeah, I do kind of feel like
Speaker 6: she should have got a date or she should still.
Speaker 1: I can also understand his side, though.
Speaker 2: It's a lot to see that.
Speaker 1: Like if I saw a dude in a tux pretending
Speaker 1: to have a wedding on Instagram after I went out
Speaker 1: with them, it'd be hard for me.
Speaker 4: But it is a bummer because me I was and
Speaker 4: I'm going to actually use Brooks words here. She was
Speaker 4: just being her authentic self. Yeah, she said, I'm not
Speaker 4: going to hide my real ambitions. I'm just gonna put
Speaker 4: it out into the universe and see what comes back
Speaker 4: to me.
Speaker 1: I agree with that, but I didn't never use those words.
Speaker 4: But yeah, you've used those words at some point. Yeah,
Speaker 4: we'll edit it together. Yeah, And I just really hope
Speaker 4: that Mia finds love and stays far far away from
Speaker 4: our show as long as possible, because I can't take
Speaker 4: any more rejection. I can't do it.
Speaker 2: So wow, you're so fragile.
Speaker 6: Remember, he finds a guy who just has a tux
Speaker 6: in his picture.
Speaker 4: That would be great, Do it on somebody else's show.
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