1 00:00:01,800 --> 00:00:05,360 Speaker 1: Live from the Mercedes Benz Interview Lounge. Hey, you've been 2 00:00:05,400 --> 00:00:08,840 Speaker 1: to a party and you meet someone and you you 3 00:00:08,920 --> 00:00:11,520 Speaker 1: end up talking to them, you know, nice to meet you, 4 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:13,480 Speaker 1: Nice to meet you too, and then an hour later 5 00:00:13,520 --> 00:00:15,560 Speaker 1: you're still talking to them because they're the most interesting 6 00:00:15,600 --> 00:00:18,439 Speaker 1: person in the room. The answer is, yes, I'm gonna 7 00:00:18,520 --> 00:00:23,919 Speaker 1: enter for you. Attention answers, Yes, may you're so excited? Okay, 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:28,800 Speaker 1: thank you, Nate. Uh, he's got a crush so Kyle. 9 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:31,200 Speaker 1: In my opinion, Kyle Creek is that guy. He's been 10 00:00:31,240 --> 00:00:34,839 Speaker 1: on our show before, He's been interviewed on Gandhi's podcast 11 00:00:35,080 --> 00:00:38,240 Speaker 1: Sauce on the Side, Right yep, coming up, and he's 12 00:00:38,240 --> 00:00:40,239 Speaker 1: here and you may know him as the Captain if 13 00:00:40,240 --> 00:00:42,760 Speaker 1: you're following him online. He's a writer, a creator, He's 14 00:00:42,800 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: a a Pooh stirr the stir the stir of Pooh. Kyle, 15 00:00:48,200 --> 00:00:52,560 Speaker 1: welcome back to the show. I appreciate a self instigator, 16 00:00:52,640 --> 00:00:56,520 Speaker 1: self proclaimed instigator. Can I point something out? What? 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 2: Look at Nate's look? 18 00:00:59,480 --> 00:00:59,960 Speaker 3: All right? 19 00:01:00,280 --> 00:01:03,040 Speaker 1: He's trying to look like I don't know what microphone 20 00:01:03,120 --> 00:01:03,960 Speaker 1: is on. 21 00:01:05,000 --> 00:01:07,240 Speaker 2: So our captain here has you know, the nice hat 22 00:01:07,280 --> 00:01:09,440 Speaker 2: and the nice beard and Nate's trying to do the 23 00:01:09,440 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 2: beard and the hat lately. 24 00:01:10,600 --> 00:01:14,280 Speaker 1: Where's the test? I'm working on it. This is that obvious. 25 00:01:14,319 --> 00:01:17,120 Speaker 1: I'm trying to imitate someone. Let's let everyone hear him 26 00:01:17,160 --> 00:01:18,760 Speaker 1: and they'll find out why you have such a crush on. 27 00:01:18,880 --> 00:01:20,679 Speaker 1: I'm just here to test back to you, Kyle. 28 00:01:24,040 --> 00:01:26,720 Speaker 2: He said, he's here to test how straight Nate really is. 29 00:01:32,080 --> 00:01:35,959 Speaker 1: That test will short with a little line, little COVID 30 00:01:35,959 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 1: test anyway. So you have books out about almost any 31 00:01:40,200 --> 00:01:42,640 Speaker 1: and every topic. It seems like that at this point. 32 00:01:42,720 --> 00:01:45,000 Speaker 1: I mean I wrote the history books initially, but I've 33 00:01:45,000 --> 00:01:48,480 Speaker 1: done like the satirical books, children's books, I mean, self 34 00:01:48,520 --> 00:01:52,360 Speaker 1: help style books. I'm currently working on a long, in 35 00:01:52,400 --> 00:01:55,279 Speaker 1: depth memoir. I'm ghost writing for a celebrity client. 36 00:01:55,480 --> 00:01:57,920 Speaker 3: Who's that album? Can't I can't tell you that, you can't. 37 00:02:00,000 --> 00:02:02,280 Speaker 3: He's Robert Foe. He's a celebrity tattoo artist. He actually 38 00:02:02,320 --> 00:02:04,240 Speaker 3: on skin design tattoo done in soho. 39 00:02:04,000 --> 00:02:05,240 Speaker 1: Oh, maybe you did tell us who it is? 40 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,440 Speaker 3: Yeah, I guess I was just trying. I mean, he 41 00:02:08,840 --> 00:02:11,679 Speaker 3: won't mind. But he's a phenomenal individual. I met about 42 00:02:11,720 --> 00:02:12,880 Speaker 3: a year and a half ago, and he has an 43 00:02:12,919 --> 00:02:16,639 Speaker 3: incredible story about coming from Cambodia as a refugee during 44 00:02:16,680 --> 00:02:20,920 Speaker 3: the camera Roo's genocide and now he's a vastly successful 45 00:02:20,919 --> 00:02:21,920 Speaker 3: celebrity tattoo artist. 46 00:02:21,960 --> 00:02:25,359 Speaker 1: So wow. But now you have a couple of kids 47 00:02:25,400 --> 00:02:26,359 Speaker 1: books out, I do. 48 00:02:26,440 --> 00:02:28,040 Speaker 3: I have two out. I have William as a Weirdo 49 00:02:28,080 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 3: and Sarah Lives in Space. And I actually had the 50 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:31,720 Speaker 3: idea for both books when I was living here in 51 00:02:31,720 --> 00:02:33,639 Speaker 3: New York back in twenty seventeen, but I was just 52 00:02:33,680 --> 00:02:35,840 Speaker 3: kind of shelfed them and put him aside for a while. 53 00:02:35,919 --> 00:02:37,799 Speaker 1: So these books you've written that, what kind of gear 54 00:02:37,840 --> 00:02:40,160 Speaker 1: do you have to shift into to write a children's book? 55 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:42,040 Speaker 1: I mean, what's it like as a writer to make 56 00:02:42,240 --> 00:02:42,880 Speaker 1: that pivot? 57 00:02:43,320 --> 00:02:44,760 Speaker 3: I mean, it's probably the same gear I've been in 58 00:02:44,800 --> 00:02:47,519 Speaker 3: for a long time on Twitter, because it's just like short, snippy, 59 00:02:47,520 --> 00:02:49,560 Speaker 3: what can I make rhyme? How can I communicate a 60 00:02:49,600 --> 00:02:51,519 Speaker 3: point in you know, one hundred and forty four characters 61 00:02:51,560 --> 00:02:53,200 Speaker 3: or less. So it's kind of a similar style, but 62 00:02:53,880 --> 00:02:57,480 Speaker 3: definitely toning down my language because that's kind of what 63 00:02:57,520 --> 00:03:00,320 Speaker 3: I've been known for online. And then also it's it's 64 00:03:00,360 --> 00:03:03,560 Speaker 3: fairly hard to take a complex subject and distill it 65 00:03:03,600 --> 00:03:05,560 Speaker 3: into something that a child can understand, but also what 66 00:03:05,680 --> 00:03:08,200 Speaker 3: parent enjoys reading. And the reason I finally did the 67 00:03:08,240 --> 00:03:10,799 Speaker 3: books because I became a parent myself and people gave 68 00:03:10,800 --> 00:03:12,160 Speaker 3: me all these books and I've been reading them to 69 00:03:12,200 --> 00:03:14,799 Speaker 3: my son and they sucked. I didn't eve want to 70 00:03:14,800 --> 00:03:16,679 Speaker 3: read them like they didn't wry and right. I thought 71 00:03:16,760 --> 00:03:17,919 Speaker 3: you'd get to the end of the book and be like, 72 00:03:17,919 --> 00:03:20,760 Speaker 3: there's no message, there's no story, what's the takeaway? And 73 00:03:20,800 --> 00:03:22,840 Speaker 3: I was like, I just you know, my dad actually 74 00:03:22,840 --> 00:03:24,400 Speaker 3: illustrated them. I told my dad, I said, we got 75 00:03:24,400 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 3: to finally do these books because all the books that 76 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:27,959 Speaker 3: I'm reading right now, aside from Doctor seuss In the 77 00:03:27,960 --> 00:03:29,480 Speaker 3: classics that I loved as a kid, I think a 78 00:03:29,480 --> 00:03:30,880 Speaker 3: lot of the books now are just garbage. 79 00:03:30,919 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: But you know, taking a very complex topic and turning 80 00:03:35,920 --> 00:03:39,119 Speaker 1: it into something that will engage with a kid, that's 81 00:03:39,160 --> 00:03:41,280 Speaker 1: the magic. Yeah, those are the best books. And I 82 00:03:41,320 --> 00:03:43,760 Speaker 1: bet you master it. I mean, I hope I do. 83 00:03:43,880 --> 00:03:44,080 Speaker 1: I mean. 84 00:03:44,120 --> 00:03:46,400 Speaker 3: The coolest thing is my son started bringing me my 85 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,520 Speaker 3: books to read to him, and I never pushed them 86 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:49,960 Speaker 3: on him, and they were just on his shelf because 87 00:03:50,000 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 3: I had copies, and he started bringing you know, Sarah 88 00:03:52,600 --> 00:03:54,560 Speaker 3: lives in space. Particularly, he'd bring that to me to 89 00:03:54,600 --> 00:03:56,400 Speaker 3: read him every night, and that was kind of just 90 00:03:56,560 --> 00:03:58,720 Speaker 3: you know, in those moments, it was very surreal that. 91 00:03:59,040 --> 00:04:00,840 Speaker 3: I mean, someday I'll be old enough to realize the 92 00:04:00,880 --> 00:04:03,080 Speaker 3: book's dedicated to him, but I mean, at the time, 93 00:04:03,120 --> 00:04:05,160 Speaker 3: he just naturally gravitated towards it. And all my friends 94 00:04:05,240 --> 00:04:06,840 Speaker 3: have kids are always sending me photos of them reading 95 00:04:06,880 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 3: them to their kids, and they tell me, oh, we 96 00:04:08,720 --> 00:04:10,120 Speaker 3: have to read this book twice every night or we 97 00:04:10,160 --> 00:04:12,040 Speaker 3: won't go to bed, and that's just wow. It's been 98 00:04:12,080 --> 00:04:12,760 Speaker 3: cool to hear that. 99 00:04:12,880 --> 00:04:14,920 Speaker 1: I love hearing that. This is why Gandhi another reason 100 00:04:14,920 --> 00:04:16,200 Speaker 1: why you and I need to have kids. 101 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:18,520 Speaker 2: I would rather just write the book. 102 00:04:19,120 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 3: I'd like to have ten kids at this point. I mean, 103 00:04:20,800 --> 00:04:22,800 Speaker 3: I there's the time in my life I was deathly 104 00:04:22,839 --> 00:04:24,240 Speaker 3: afraid of being a father. When I found out I 105 00:04:24,279 --> 00:04:26,120 Speaker 3: was going to be a dad scared me. But now 106 00:04:26,120 --> 00:04:27,920 Speaker 3: that I am a dad, I mean, I totally understand 107 00:04:27,920 --> 00:04:30,360 Speaker 3: why people have ten fifteen kids. I mean, I if 108 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:32,920 Speaker 3: I could financially support a family that size, I would. 109 00:04:33,000 --> 00:04:35,440 Speaker 1: I think it's awesome, Well, come up with more kids books. 110 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:37,719 Speaker 1: I hear. It's a very lucrative industry. It's actually not. 111 00:04:37,880 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 2: But yes, there more money in kids books or in 112 00:04:42,760 --> 00:04:43,400 Speaker 2: adult books. 113 00:04:43,880 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 3: For me, adult books for sure, that's my audience. If 114 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,599 Speaker 3: I put on an adult book, I know it's going 115 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:50,560 Speaker 3: to sell because I've kind of, you know, gained that 116 00:04:50,600 --> 00:04:52,599 Speaker 3: notoriety and the children's space is new to me and 117 00:04:52,640 --> 00:04:54,000 Speaker 3: there's a lot of people. I mean, it was very 118 00:04:54,000 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 3: hard to, you know, get people to publish them because 119 00:04:56,160 --> 00:04:58,400 Speaker 3: I don't have that background. But if you can get 120 00:04:58,400 --> 00:05:01,880 Speaker 3: a successful children's book like they, you will sell millions 121 00:05:01,920 --> 00:05:02,320 Speaker 3: of copies. 122 00:05:02,440 --> 00:05:08,120 Speaker 1: Carry potter about that. Yes, hey, so, speaking of writing 123 00:05:08,320 --> 00:05:10,680 Speaker 1: and being published, you do a lot of self publishing, 124 00:05:10,720 --> 00:05:12,000 Speaker 1: like these two books in front of me right here, 125 00:05:12,040 --> 00:05:13,960 Speaker 1: speech Therapy and feel free to quote me. But you 126 00:05:13,960 --> 00:05:16,120 Speaker 1: said you just sold one of these to a publishing house. 127 00:05:16,320 --> 00:05:18,120 Speaker 1: I did, so I've done that twice. Not which one 128 00:05:18,320 --> 00:05:20,320 Speaker 1: I just sold Speech Therapy to a publishing house. But 129 00:05:21,400 --> 00:05:24,320 Speaker 1: with my history series, I self published those originally too, 130 00:05:24,440 --> 00:05:27,279 Speaker 1: and eventually ping a random house you know, caught wind 131 00:05:27,279 --> 00:05:29,000 Speaker 1: of them wanted to buy the rights off. Oh cool. 132 00:05:29,120 --> 00:05:32,320 Speaker 3: I've self published everything I've done. I've never actually had 133 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,919 Speaker 3: a real book deal. I've never had someone give me 134 00:05:34,960 --> 00:05:36,920 Speaker 3: an advance to write a book. I've always wrote a 135 00:05:36,960 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 3: book and then tried to sell it and people have 136 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:40,919 Speaker 3: said no, So I sell publish it myself, and then 137 00:05:40,960 --> 00:05:42,479 Speaker 3: two years down the road they see how well it 138 00:05:42,520 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 3: sells and they buy it off me, which has been 139 00:05:43,920 --> 00:05:45,760 Speaker 3: nice because I kind of get a double dip. I 140 00:05:45,800 --> 00:05:47,800 Speaker 3: make all my self published and income, plus I still 141 00:05:47,800 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 3: get an advance. So I mean it's not a career 142 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: path that I would recommend people go down, but it 143 00:05:52,839 --> 00:05:53,880 Speaker 3: definitely has worked for me. 144 00:05:54,080 --> 00:05:55,679 Speaker 1: Absolutely. How do you self published? 145 00:05:55,760 --> 00:05:55,839 Speaker 3: Like? 146 00:05:55,880 --> 00:05:56,480 Speaker 1: How you do that? 147 00:05:56,800 --> 00:05:59,880 Speaker 3: Amazon's made it so easy these days, Amazons, Amazon Direct 148 00:06:00,040 --> 00:06:03,279 Speaker 3: do is get a PDF together and design your own cover, uploaded, 149 00:06:03,320 --> 00:06:05,120 Speaker 3: it could be selling within seventy two hours. 150 00:06:05,440 --> 00:06:07,760 Speaker 1: And there you go. See that's the thing. Anyone out 151 00:06:07,760 --> 00:06:10,880 Speaker 1: there who's a frustrated writer who just can't get picked up, Yeah, 152 00:06:11,080 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: pick yourself up exactly. I mean take you. 153 00:06:14,360 --> 00:06:16,119 Speaker 3: I tell that to writers all the time, though, especially 154 00:06:16,120 --> 00:06:17,719 Speaker 3: if you have an audience and you feel like you 155 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:20,279 Speaker 3: can move some copies, I mean, self publish that and 156 00:06:20,480 --> 00:06:22,760 Speaker 3: if it does sell well, you can absolutely resell it 157 00:06:22,760 --> 00:06:25,839 Speaker 3: to a publisher. And I mean there's there's benefits to both. 158 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,800 Speaker 3: The cool thing about self publishing is there's no money 159 00:06:27,880 --> 00:06:30,200 Speaker 3: up front. Most people buy books on Amazon anyway, so 160 00:06:30,200 --> 00:06:32,640 Speaker 3: why not go direct to the source. But there is 161 00:06:32,680 --> 00:06:34,400 Speaker 3: something nice about going into a bookstore and seeing your 162 00:06:34,400 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 3: books on the shelves and stuff, which you need a 163 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:37,480 Speaker 3: publisher to get that kind of distribution. 164 00:06:38,080 --> 00:06:40,400 Speaker 1: All right, So you're gonna have a col on the 165 00:06:40,839 --> 00:06:45,000 Speaker 1: podcast today, like what instigating will you be Like? What 166 00:06:45,240 --> 00:06:47,760 Speaker 1: menacing instigating will you be doing on your podcast? 167 00:06:47,960 --> 00:06:50,520 Speaker 2: I'm not an instigator, Yes you are very much are 168 00:06:50,720 --> 00:06:54,520 Speaker 2: Excuse me, absolutely you are. I'm playful. I'm not an instigator, 169 00:06:54,520 --> 00:06:56,560 Speaker 2: but I have so many questions for him, which I 170 00:06:56,560 --> 00:06:59,080 Speaker 2: guess I can blow them. Well, I mean I want 171 00:06:59,080 --> 00:07:01,080 Speaker 2: to know, like, where did this I'll come from? Obviously 172 00:07:01,120 --> 00:07:01,760 Speaker 2: you started. 173 00:07:01,520 --> 00:07:07,640 Speaker 1: Answer these questions? What I can swear though, I'm just kidding. 174 00:07:07,680 --> 00:07:08,320 Speaker 1: Go ahead, No, I. 175 00:07:08,560 --> 00:07:11,720 Speaker 2: Found you years ago and I've watched your following just 176 00:07:11,800 --> 00:07:14,720 Speaker 2: explode since that point. How does that happen? Where did 177 00:07:14,720 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 2: that even come from? 178 00:07:15,440 --> 00:07:15,720 Speaker 1: Like that? 179 00:07:15,720 --> 00:07:17,680 Speaker 3: It's funny because I actually took social media off my 180 00:07:17,680 --> 00:07:19,679 Speaker 3: phone the first this year. I haven't been on social 181 00:07:19,720 --> 00:07:21,520 Speaker 3: media at all really the past four or five months, 182 00:07:21,560 --> 00:07:23,520 Speaker 3: but it definitely made my career and it started kind 183 00:07:23,520 --> 00:07:25,360 Speaker 3: of as a joke. I was working as an advertising 184 00:07:25,360 --> 00:07:27,880 Speaker 3: copywriter and I was writing a lot of TV scripts, 185 00:07:28,000 --> 00:07:30,040 Speaker 3: and I would write jokes into my scripts that clients 186 00:07:30,080 --> 00:07:31,480 Speaker 3: would think cross the line. 187 00:07:31,200 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: And I'd be like, Ah, that joke's too good. I'm 188 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,120 Speaker 1: not gonna let it die. I'm gonna start putting on Twitter. 189 00:07:35,320 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 3: So I started just tweeting like my concepts and observations 190 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: that I didn't think my clients would take, and they'll 191 00:07:40,280 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 3: start taking off from me. And eventually got to the 192 00:07:42,680 --> 00:07:45,440 Speaker 3: point where my captain following. And I used the name 193 00:07:45,520 --> 00:07:48,240 Speaker 3: the captain because I didn't want to interfere with my 194 00:07:48,280 --> 00:07:50,280 Speaker 3: professional career, because at the time I was just very 195 00:07:50,320 --> 00:07:53,640 Speaker 3: grateful to have a job in copywriting, because as a writer, 196 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 3: it's one of the few places you can make good money. 197 00:07:56,080 --> 00:07:57,680 Speaker 3: And I didn't want to, you know, say something that 198 00:07:57,720 --> 00:07:59,960 Speaker 3: was too outlandish and you know, risk my actual pain. 199 00:08:00,440 --> 00:08:02,920 Speaker 3: And so I had that captain kind of veil for 200 00:08:02,960 --> 00:08:04,840 Speaker 3: a long time. And then eventually it got big enough 201 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,080 Speaker 3: to where I was in a meeting one day and 202 00:08:07,520 --> 00:08:09,320 Speaker 3: it was with like some high level asset managers of 203 00:08:09,360 --> 00:08:11,240 Speaker 3: a Ritz Carlton property I was working on as a 204 00:08:11,280 --> 00:08:13,600 Speaker 3: creative director, one of the guys leans to me and says, hey, 205 00:08:13,680 --> 00:08:15,040 Speaker 3: you know, my wife and I are big fans of 206 00:08:15,080 --> 00:08:17,000 Speaker 3: your work. And I thought he was talking about like 207 00:08:17,040 --> 00:08:18,960 Speaker 3: my advertising portfolio, and he's like, no, we follow you 208 00:08:19,080 --> 00:08:20,200 Speaker 3: on Instagram and we love it. 209 00:08:20,240 --> 00:08:20,840 Speaker 1: Oh bust it. 210 00:08:20,880 --> 00:08:22,720 Speaker 3: And I had like this total like where my world's 211 00:08:22,760 --> 00:08:25,400 Speaker 3: kind of collided. And then I started getting work because 212 00:08:25,400 --> 00:08:27,880 Speaker 3: of my social media following, and I actually left my 213 00:08:28,160 --> 00:08:32,000 Speaker 3: advertising career and my social media falling became my career. 214 00:08:32,040 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 3: And it wasn't like something I ever planned to do. 215 00:08:34,320 --> 00:08:36,400 Speaker 3: It just happened that way for me. But really it 216 00:08:36,440 --> 00:08:39,680 Speaker 3: was just that repetition. I mean I probably was tweeting 217 00:08:39,840 --> 00:08:43,240 Speaker 3: or writing something every day for five years until I 218 00:08:43,400 --> 00:08:45,000 Speaker 3: made any money as the Captain. 219 00:08:45,200 --> 00:08:47,880 Speaker 1: Wow, now, Gonda, you brought him to us. What was 220 00:08:47,920 --> 00:08:50,560 Speaker 1: it about the Captain? What was it about Kyle that 221 00:08:51,320 --> 00:08:53,760 Speaker 1: hit your nerve that made you go, Okay, I can relate. 222 00:08:53,800 --> 00:08:54,920 Speaker 1: This guy is very interesting. 223 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:57,200 Speaker 2: So, based solely on what I saw on social media 224 00:08:57,200 --> 00:09:01,079 Speaker 2: because I didn't know him, I thought he seemed very authentic, 225 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:03,319 Speaker 2: true to himself, and he said a lot of things 226 00:09:03,320 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 2: that I think a lot of people are thinking, but 227 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,439 Speaker 2: they don't want to tweet into the world, so I 228 00:09:07,480 --> 00:09:09,920 Speaker 2: would just retweet them and repost them all the time. 229 00:09:10,400 --> 00:09:12,880 Speaker 2: And the irreverence and the cursing and the rhyming, like 230 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,199 Speaker 2: all of it goes together in a nice little package. 231 00:09:15,400 --> 00:09:17,840 Speaker 2: But when you say that you really started to make 232 00:09:17,880 --> 00:09:20,040 Speaker 2: your living on social media, so you gave up the 233 00:09:20,080 --> 00:09:20,680 Speaker 2: other job. 234 00:09:20,920 --> 00:09:22,679 Speaker 1: How stressful is that? Incredibly? 235 00:09:23,160 --> 00:09:25,319 Speaker 3: I think the past five years are probably the most 236 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:27,679 Speaker 3: stressful of my career, but they've also been the most rewarding. 237 00:09:27,760 --> 00:09:30,079 Speaker 3: Exactly when you only have yourself to rely on, or 238 00:09:30,120 --> 00:09:31,920 Speaker 3: I only have book sales, or I only have this 239 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 3: next book deal, or I'm starting to get back into 240 00:09:34,920 --> 00:09:36,440 Speaker 3: doing a lot of film and TV work. When you 241 00:09:36,480 --> 00:09:38,480 Speaker 3: only have that to rely on, I mean, it's feast 242 00:09:38,559 --> 00:09:40,640 Speaker 3: or famine. I mean a lot of creators think can 243 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,840 Speaker 3: relate to that. You'll have years where you do really well, 244 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,320 Speaker 3: and then you'll have years where like you go six 245 00:09:45,360 --> 00:09:46,640 Speaker 3: months and you're like, I don't know how I'm going 246 00:09:46,679 --> 00:09:49,840 Speaker 3: to pay my mortgage right now. But I think during 247 00:09:49,840 --> 00:09:52,080 Speaker 3: those times you develop that kind of character that'll make 248 00:09:52,120 --> 00:09:55,520 Speaker 3: you a better writer. I think, you know, particularly my 249 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:57,280 Speaker 3: book Speech Therapy I and a lot of that stuff 250 00:09:57,320 --> 00:10:00,200 Speaker 3: mentioned there is stuff that I experienced to myself, and 251 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,120 Speaker 3: so I'm actually going to be re releasing that and 252 00:10:02,120 --> 00:10:04,040 Speaker 3: I'm using a lot of what I've experienced the last 253 00:10:04,080 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 3: couple of years for this new version because I have 254 00:10:06,880 --> 00:10:09,400 Speaker 3: dealt with that stress of being a father and being 255 00:10:09,440 --> 00:10:12,079 Speaker 3: a provider, having you know, financial instability at times. 256 00:10:12,120 --> 00:10:14,760 Speaker 1: Let's talk about it. I mean, for for instance, first 257 00:10:14,800 --> 00:10:17,440 Speaker 1: of all, Speech Therapy is going to be published. When 258 00:10:17,520 --> 00:10:18,040 Speaker 1: is the release? 259 00:10:18,120 --> 00:10:19,840 Speaker 3: You know, so you can still get on an Amazon. 260 00:10:20,280 --> 00:10:22,600 Speaker 3: I don't know when the new one's going to be out, 261 00:10:22,600 --> 00:10:24,640 Speaker 3: probably this year. I'm thinking around December is what they're 262 00:10:24,640 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 3: going to shoot for. But I don't have an excta. 263 00:10:26,000 --> 00:10:27,840 Speaker 1: Everyone, Let's hold off till the big one comes out. 264 00:10:27,920 --> 00:10:29,679 Speaker 3: No, buy the new one now, like I mean by 265 00:10:30,000 --> 00:10:31,960 Speaker 3: the one I currently have up on Amazon right now, 266 00:10:32,080 --> 00:10:35,520 Speaker 3: because that's money directly to buy pocket but it's still 267 00:10:35,559 --> 00:10:38,520 Speaker 3: self published. Okay, all right, so buy that one for sure, 268 00:10:38,679 --> 00:10:40,400 Speaker 3: but then also buy the new one when it comes out. 269 00:10:40,559 --> 00:10:43,680 Speaker 1: I love how you say, and for everyone who's ever 270 00:10:43,720 --> 00:10:46,000 Speaker 1: experienced something in life that made them say, hey, what 271 00:10:46,040 --> 00:10:48,600 Speaker 1: the f why is this happening to me? And then 272 00:10:48,640 --> 00:10:51,800 Speaker 1: you go through the table of contents down the dumps 273 00:10:52,280 --> 00:10:55,080 Speaker 1: down in the dumps after being dumped. Your take on 274 00:10:55,160 --> 00:10:59,240 Speaker 1: that money misery, A furry companion destroys a possession, what 275 00:10:59,280 --> 00:11:02,240 Speaker 1: do I do? Laid off fire, liking desire? So you 276 00:11:02,320 --> 00:11:05,880 Speaker 1: put your your Kyle spin on all of these. 277 00:11:06,000 --> 00:11:07,600 Speaker 3: I mean, essentially, the whole thing is like if I 278 00:11:07,640 --> 00:11:09,320 Speaker 3: had a buddy come to me at a bar and 279 00:11:09,360 --> 00:11:11,400 Speaker 3: ask me for advice on something that happened to him, Like, 280 00:11:11,400 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 3: what's a little quick conversation I'd have with him? You know, 281 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:15,760 Speaker 3: what would I tell a friend of mine? And it's 282 00:11:15,800 --> 00:11:17,920 Speaker 3: the idea that like, we had these little things that 283 00:11:17,920 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 3: happened to us in the morning, Like you can lose 284 00:11:19,400 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 3: your keys, and if you don't quickly get on top 285 00:11:21,280 --> 00:11:23,120 Speaker 3: of that, it can derail your whole afternoon and your 286 00:11:23,160 --> 00:11:25,880 Speaker 3: day because you just carry that frustration into your whole day. 287 00:11:25,880 --> 00:11:28,240 Speaker 3: And you know, for example, like a breakup. I've seen 288 00:11:28,280 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 3: friends go through breakups and they get over in a month. 289 00:11:30,080 --> 00:11:32,520 Speaker 3: I've seen friends who three years later aren't the same person. 290 00:11:32,600 --> 00:11:35,319 Speaker 3: They still haven't recovered from that. And you know, the 291 00:11:35,360 --> 00:11:37,600 Speaker 3: whole book is just kind of getting on top of 292 00:11:38,160 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 3: your thought process and trying to you know, put you know, 293 00:11:40,480 --> 00:11:43,000 Speaker 3: halt something that's tracks before it really derails your your day, 294 00:11:43,080 --> 00:11:43,960 Speaker 3: or your week or your life. 295 00:11:44,000 --> 00:11:46,040 Speaker 1: Help me out with this one though. I mean, going 296 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: through a breakup is a major thing. You know, having 297 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,520 Speaker 1: a bankruptcy and no money is miserable. But this chapter 298 00:11:51,600 --> 00:11:53,840 Speaker 1: is your favorite plant took a dirt nap. So this 299 00:11:53,920 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: is this is telling you how to get through the 300 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:58,439 Speaker 1: loss of a favorite plant. 301 00:11:58,480 --> 00:12:01,360 Speaker 3: It's funny because there's actually people that are really effect 302 00:12:01,400 --> 00:12:02,679 Speaker 3: and I think the thing there, and the kind of 303 00:12:02,679 --> 00:12:04,720 Speaker 3: the premise of that one is when you invest time 304 00:12:04,760 --> 00:12:06,920 Speaker 3: into something and you care for something, whether it's a 305 00:12:06,920 --> 00:12:09,920 Speaker 3: plant or a relationship, and it comes to an end, 306 00:12:10,000 --> 00:12:12,079 Speaker 3: it still is kind of a grieving process. And it's 307 00:12:12,120 --> 00:12:14,160 Speaker 3: a joke that it's a plant because a lot of 308 00:12:14,160 --> 00:12:15,720 Speaker 3: people are like, oh, that's just a plant. But if 309 00:12:15,720 --> 00:12:17,520 Speaker 3: it's something that you've taken care of every day for 310 00:12:17,559 --> 00:12:19,880 Speaker 3: seven years, Like I have a buddy who's got a 311 00:12:19,960 --> 00:12:22,720 Speaker 3: greenhouse in his house, and he is obsessed with his plants, 312 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,760 Speaker 3: and I know, you know, they're rare, and he you know, 313 00:12:25,840 --> 00:12:27,440 Speaker 3: ships them in from all over the world. I know 314 00:12:27,559 --> 00:12:30,439 Speaker 3: when he loses one, it actually really bumps him out. 315 00:12:30,840 --> 00:12:33,080 Speaker 3: And so I just figure out that people probably experience. 316 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,440 Speaker 2: That time I'm devastated when I lose a plane. 317 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:36,720 Speaker 1: You do, I'm devastating because she's your a plant woman. Yeah, 318 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:38,000 Speaker 1: well yeah, because you don't have kids. 319 00:12:38,000 --> 00:12:39,400 Speaker 3: If you had kids, you wouldn't You'd be like, I 320 00:12:39,480 --> 00:12:40,480 Speaker 3: got something else to care about it. 321 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:42,080 Speaker 1: I don't know. 322 00:12:42,120 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 2: That's why I don't have But that's the. 323 00:12:43,480 --> 00:12:46,439 Speaker 1: Purpose of this chapter. If you have kids and and 324 00:12:46,480 --> 00:12:48,079 Speaker 1: you know, or if you have a plant, I mean, 325 00:12:48,080 --> 00:12:50,760 Speaker 1: there's there are parallels there. I get it. Your house 326 00:12:50,880 --> 00:12:53,040 Speaker 1: is literally on fire. I want to read this chapter. 327 00:12:53,760 --> 00:12:55,679 Speaker 1: Have you ever lived in the house that was on fire? No? 328 00:12:55,760 --> 00:12:57,120 Speaker 3: But I know the first thing I would do is 329 00:12:57,120 --> 00:12:59,120 Speaker 3: I would get a really good outfits when I'm interviewed 330 00:12:59,160 --> 00:13:00,840 Speaker 3: on the news with my house burning behind me, I'd 331 00:13:00,880 --> 00:13:01,120 Speaker 3: want to. 332 00:13:01,080 --> 00:13:01,679 Speaker 1: Look really small. 333 00:13:03,200 --> 00:13:05,319 Speaker 3: Actually, for a long time, I had like my fire 334 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 3: outfit picked out, Like, guess something happens, I'm gonna be 335 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:09,480 Speaker 3: on the news. I want to look just as hot 336 00:13:09,520 --> 00:13:13,559 Speaker 3: as that fire behind me, or hotter. So I recommend 337 00:13:13,600 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 3: like you have an outfit ready to go at your 338 00:13:15,280 --> 00:13:17,000 Speaker 3: get out of the house outfit, because there's going to 339 00:13:17,040 --> 00:13:18,840 Speaker 3: be someone interviewing in the news and you want to 340 00:13:18,880 --> 00:13:20,040 Speaker 3: look slick being interviewed. 341 00:13:20,080 --> 00:13:22,760 Speaker 1: Fire what fire? Oh there's a Yeah, there's a fire. 342 00:13:22,920 --> 00:13:24,040 Speaker 1: This jacket I got on. 343 00:13:25,640 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 2: I have something that's completely off topic from this. But 344 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,800 Speaker 2: when I first met you, it was at jingle Ball. 345 00:13:31,080 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 2: Yeah yeah, in Miami, which is not a place that 346 00:13:33,840 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 2: I would have thought i'd see you backstage hanging out. 347 00:13:36,800 --> 00:13:38,520 Speaker 2: What were you doing backstage at Chinglebo? 348 00:13:38,640 --> 00:13:41,040 Speaker 3: My buddy Davey brought me? Okay, yeah, I mean I 349 00:13:41,080 --> 00:13:42,599 Speaker 3: met Davey when I lived here in New York. He 350 00:13:42,840 --> 00:13:44,679 Speaker 3: guys are good friends. Do we know Davey David Dyer? 351 00:13:45,000 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 1: I know Dave Dyer. 352 00:13:46,520 --> 00:13:48,960 Speaker 3: I know Dave Dyer since he was He's a really 353 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 3: good friend of mine. Little Dyer. He told me to 354 00:13:51,160 --> 00:13:52,800 Speaker 3: say hi to he guys. Actually he was. I was 355 00:13:52,840 --> 00:13:54,400 Speaker 3: gonna try and hang out them last night, but he's 356 00:13:54,440 --> 00:13:54,880 Speaker 3: at some cheers. 357 00:13:54,920 --> 00:13:56,520 Speaker 1: You're a Dave Dire guy, because I'll tell you right 358 00:13:56,520 --> 00:13:58,199 Speaker 1: now that really says a lot about you, because Dave 359 00:13:58,240 --> 00:13:59,800 Speaker 1: Dyer is like to hit his coolest guy, you'll live. 360 00:14:00,240 --> 00:14:02,080 Speaker 3: The funny thing about Dave and I is we had 361 00:14:02,120 --> 00:14:05,000 Speaker 3: a mutual person trying to introduce us for like two years, 362 00:14:05,040 --> 00:14:07,480 Speaker 3: but we both thought that mutual person was kind of 363 00:14:07,520 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 3: like scammy. It's like, all right, if they're friends with them, 364 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:12,600 Speaker 3: it's probably not a good person. Yeah, And so, like 365 00:14:12,679 --> 00:14:14,640 Speaker 3: two years we avoided each other and they kept trying 366 00:14:14,679 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 3: to link us up, like you guys would get along. 367 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:17,760 Speaker 1: And then finally, I think Davey. 368 00:14:17,480 --> 00:14:20,000 Speaker 3: Emailed me directly one day and he's like, all right, finally, 369 00:14:20,080 --> 00:14:21,680 Speaker 3: let's just let's just get this over come. Meet me 370 00:14:21,720 --> 00:14:23,400 Speaker 3: at a bar. So I met him at a bar 371 00:14:23,480 --> 00:14:24,960 Speaker 3: down in the East Village, I think, and him and 372 00:14:24,960 --> 00:14:26,040 Speaker 3: I stayed out till like three year. 373 00:14:26,280 --> 00:14:28,520 Speaker 1: He's awesome, I know, but this says a lot about 374 00:14:28,520 --> 00:14:30,960 Speaker 1: that guy who thought was scammy. But this person actually 375 00:14:31,040 --> 00:14:32,520 Speaker 1: has something good going because they. 376 00:14:33,200 --> 00:14:36,640 Speaker 3: The person definitely was. But okay, but no, like we 377 00:14:36,720 --> 00:14:38,520 Speaker 3: we've had that talk too. And I told him, I 378 00:14:38,520 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 3: was like, you know, the reason I didn't want to 379 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:40,760 Speaker 3: hang out with you is because of so and so, 380 00:14:40,840 --> 00:14:42,960 Speaker 3: and he said the exact same things. That person definitely was. 381 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 3: But him and I connected and we've been really good 382 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 3: friends ever since. And yeah, so he was he knew 383 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:48,840 Speaker 3: that I had recently moved to Florida and he was 384 00:14:48,880 --> 00:14:50,520 Speaker 3: down there for that jingle ball and he wrote me 385 00:14:50,520 --> 00:14:52,480 Speaker 3: and he's like, hey, I know it's not your thing, 386 00:14:52,600 --> 00:14:53,240 Speaker 3: and he even knew that. 387 00:14:53,280 --> 00:14:56,640 Speaker 1: He's like it was weird or anything. 388 00:14:56,720 --> 00:14:59,120 Speaker 3: No, I mean I recognized like one song, but he 389 00:14:59,200 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 3: was like, I know it's your thing, but I'm only 390 00:15:00,920 --> 00:15:01,360 Speaker 3: there for a night. 391 00:15:01,400 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: I'd love to see you. And I was like, all right, 392 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:04,680 Speaker 1: I'll come out. So that's what I was. See. Now, 393 00:15:04,800 --> 00:15:07,240 Speaker 1: I love you four times as much because Dave Diary 394 00:15:07,280 --> 00:15:08,960 Speaker 1: to me is like one of the night. If you're 395 00:15:09,000 --> 00:15:11,400 Speaker 1: listening right now, going who Who's Dave Diary? Well, I'll 396 00:15:11,400 --> 00:15:13,120 Speaker 1: tell you now. You always have that guy in your life, 397 00:15:13,120 --> 00:15:15,920 Speaker 1: a friend of your life that you just want to 398 00:15:15,960 --> 00:15:17,880 Speaker 1: be with him, and when you are with him, they're cool. 399 00:15:17,960 --> 00:15:20,640 Speaker 1: And you see pictures he's smoking a cigar with his pug. 400 00:15:20,720 --> 00:15:23,000 Speaker 1: You know, he's like he's always like the coolest. 401 00:15:22,680 --> 00:15:24,480 Speaker 3: Guy he is though, and like a day's one of 402 00:15:24,480 --> 00:15:25,880 Speaker 3: those guys that I told him. I was like, you 403 00:15:25,880 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 3: need to write a book, like you have such a 404 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:30,600 Speaker 3: cool little backstory in your life is just so interesting, 405 00:15:30,640 --> 00:15:32,440 Speaker 3: and you have such a great way of telling stories, 406 00:15:32,520 --> 00:15:34,840 Speaker 3: like you need to when you get into your you know, 407 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:36,800 Speaker 3: kind of like Sunset years, you should write a book 408 00:15:36,840 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 3: about your life. And uh, yeah, I've I've loved Davy 409 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:41,640 Speaker 3: I actually cherish him as a very good friend because 410 00:15:41,680 --> 00:15:43,600 Speaker 3: even when I have been through, like you know, some 411 00:15:43,680 --> 00:15:45,680 Speaker 3: times on my own that I was struggling with. I remember, Davy, 412 00:15:45,720 --> 00:15:48,040 Speaker 3: are you calling him? I remember he came out, He 413 00:15:48,040 --> 00:15:49,520 Speaker 3: came out to LA and we had, you know, hung 414 00:15:49,520 --> 00:15:50,040 Speaker 3: out together. 415 00:15:50,760 --> 00:15:54,240 Speaker 1: Why not? If he doesn't pick up, I'll call it. Hey, 416 00:15:54,240 --> 00:15:55,800 Speaker 1: we're talking about you in the air your live. Do 417 00:15:55,880 --> 00:15:58,880 Speaker 1: not use foul language. Well that's not gonna be easy, 418 00:15:58,920 --> 00:16:01,880 Speaker 1: but I'll do my best. We're we're interviewing Kyle Creek, 419 00:16:02,000 --> 00:16:05,200 Speaker 1: the captain right now. We're talking about you. That's my guy. 420 00:16:07,520 --> 00:16:09,600 Speaker 1: I'm glad you guys are friends because we if we 421 00:16:09,640 --> 00:16:11,040 Speaker 1: love you as much as we love you, now we 422 00:16:11,040 --> 00:16:12,560 Speaker 1: love him as much as we love you as well. 423 00:16:13,200 --> 00:16:15,920 Speaker 1: Oh my gosh, it's a circle of friendship. I love it. 424 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:17,960 Speaker 3: I had to remind him who you were though they 425 00:16:17,960 --> 00:16:21,320 Speaker 3: didn't remember, so they're not true. 426 00:16:21,800 --> 00:16:25,840 Speaker 1: This is recorded you are. We will win this battle. 427 00:16:25,960 --> 00:16:29,360 Speaker 1: They were like, were like, we're hanging up when you 428 00:16:29,400 --> 00:16:31,760 Speaker 1: love you. If you want to know why they don't 429 00:16:31,800 --> 00:16:33,520 Speaker 1: remember me, it ain't because we didn't hang out. It's 430 00:16:33,520 --> 00:16:36,640 Speaker 1: because what we were doing when we were hanging out. Okay, okay, okay, 431 00:16:37,840 --> 00:16:39,720 Speaker 1: Clift Hanger, all right, I'll call you back by all right. 432 00:16:39,800 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: I love him. But anyway, so we were at jingle 433 00:16:42,280 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: Ball Why one underd jingle Ball in South Florida, and 434 00:16:45,000 --> 00:16:48,640 Speaker 1: Ghani says, gotta come here with me. Why you gotta 435 00:16:48,680 --> 00:16:51,240 Speaker 1: meet this guy? Yeah, I can't believe he's here. Yeah, 436 00:16:51,320 --> 00:16:53,120 Speaker 1: this is not his scene at all. You got to 437 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:54,760 Speaker 1: come meet this guy. Yeah. 438 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:56,480 Speaker 2: It felt like I hit gold because there are all 439 00:16:56,520 --> 00:16:57,560 Speaker 2: these celebrities back there. 440 00:16:58,280 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: Davy was telling me who they all were, is like, 441 00:16:59,640 --> 00:17:01,880 Speaker 1: I don't know those people. It's okay, and that's fine, 442 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:02,800 Speaker 1: that's fine. 443 00:17:02,840 --> 00:17:04,600 Speaker 2: And for the most part, we'll sit in the corner, 444 00:17:04,680 --> 00:17:06,320 Speaker 2: like hide in the corner. But then I see this 445 00:17:06,359 --> 00:17:09,200 Speaker 2: house tall, are you like six six six six six? Yes, 446 00:17:09,240 --> 00:17:11,560 Speaker 2: this giant person with a tropical shirt on and this 447 00:17:11,680 --> 00:17:13,679 Speaker 2: massive beard, And I was like, I think I know 448 00:17:13,720 --> 00:17:16,760 Speaker 2: who that is Elvis and I don't. 449 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:17,159 Speaker 1: I don't know. 450 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:21,639 Speaker 3: Over there, yeah, and as where you were wearing a 451 00:17:21,680 --> 00:17:23,679 Speaker 3: super cool a skull jacket, I think, yeah, I got 452 00:17:23,720 --> 00:17:25,280 Speaker 3: a couple of skulls. 453 00:17:25,359 --> 00:17:29,040 Speaker 1: Hey, look, okay, let's sell some books. Okay. You go 454 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,880 Speaker 1: onto Amazon and you search for cole Cree. 455 00:17:31,920 --> 00:17:33,439 Speaker 3: Creek or the Captain, or you can just type in 456 00:17:33,480 --> 00:17:35,600 Speaker 3: speech therapy and it'll all come up there. 457 00:17:35,640 --> 00:17:37,879 Speaker 1: Buy everything he sells, Yes, buy them all, especially the 458 00:17:37,920 --> 00:17:39,639 Speaker 1: self published, and tell you and when you do the 459 00:17:39,640 --> 00:17:42,879 Speaker 1: self publishing as you did, you chose the black cover 460 00:17:43,000 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: with the white writing. When they all are together, the 461 00:17:46,680 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: entire catalog on your shelf, it looks cool. It does 462 00:17:49,119 --> 00:17:51,720 Speaker 1: because you have like this, everyone's going to go gravitate 463 00:17:51,720 --> 00:17:53,800 Speaker 1: towards the black books and go let me tell you 464 00:17:53,800 --> 00:17:56,320 Speaker 1: about the Captain and uh, look, we got to sell 465 00:17:56,320 --> 00:17:58,280 Speaker 1: some books. I appreciate that five percent. 466 00:17:58,359 --> 00:18:01,359 Speaker 3: Come on, okay, I will give you five percent all 467 00:18:01,480 --> 00:18:02,199 Speaker 3: day if we sell it. 468 00:18:04,440 --> 00:18:06,919 Speaker 1: All right, Well, okay, this. 469 00:18:06,840 --> 00:18:08,680 Speaker 3: Is my goat fund. Like whatever I make from these books, 470 00:18:08,800 --> 00:18:10,399 Speaker 3: I'm trying to work on get some goats. And I 471 00:18:10,440 --> 00:18:12,359 Speaker 3: placed down okay, out to my house now, So I 472 00:18:12,359 --> 00:18:14,320 Speaker 3: need money for some goat. You need goat the goats? 473 00:18:14,359 --> 00:18:15,240 Speaker 2: Can we come touch them? 474 00:18:15,280 --> 00:18:19,000 Speaker 1: Absolutely? That sounded really creepy. Did sounds very creepy? Can 475 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:19,640 Speaker 1: I touch your goat? 476 00:18:20,080 --> 00:18:21,399 Speaker 3: But the thing is that we weren't talking about the 477 00:18:21,440 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 3: kids books at the time, so it's not aspect. 478 00:18:23,440 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: So let's start with speech therapy. If you need to 479 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,520 Speaker 1: go one book at a time. Speech therapy is a 480 00:18:27,520 --> 00:18:29,080 Speaker 1: good start. I think it is a good place to start. 481 00:18:30,200 --> 00:18:34,000 Speaker 1: What's the tattoos say on your arm? Which one? I'll 482 00:18:34,040 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: turn it over? 483 00:18:35,359 --> 00:18:37,080 Speaker 2: Oh that's what it says. 484 00:18:37,200 --> 00:18:38,639 Speaker 1: I'm not even gonna tell you what I thought it 485 00:18:38,680 --> 00:18:39,480 Speaker 1: said from over here? 486 00:18:39,680 --> 00:18:43,840 Speaker 3: Tell you what you thought said? Yeah, it says luck 487 00:18:43,920 --> 00:18:46,520 Speaker 3: is for losing. And then I have Ashley tached on 488 00:18:46,560 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 3: the other wrist. And I don't even know in Ashley, 489 00:18:48,560 --> 00:18:50,879 Speaker 3: but I've dedicated all of my books to Ashley for 490 00:18:51,000 --> 00:18:55,520 Speaker 3: me right therefore, Ashley, even though she continues to ignore 491 00:18:55,560 --> 00:18:59,000 Speaker 3: my advice, that's probably like the tenth book I've dedicated 492 00:18:59,000 --> 00:18:59,320 Speaker 3: to her. 493 00:18:59,640 --> 00:19:01,560 Speaker 1: I think we all have an Ashley. I mean I was. 494 00:19:01,600 --> 00:19:03,119 Speaker 3: I was at a bar one time, so guys like, 495 00:19:03,119 --> 00:19:04,639 Speaker 3: you have a lot of tattoos, but you don't have 496 00:19:04,680 --> 00:19:06,320 Speaker 3: someone's name tattooed on you. And I was like, you know, 497 00:19:06,440 --> 00:19:08,760 Speaker 3: he's got a good point. So I just googled crazy 498 00:19:08,760 --> 00:19:10,760 Speaker 3: White Girls and I actually was number one on the list. 499 00:19:13,040 --> 00:19:15,080 Speaker 3: I'm going to tattoo it. And I told the guys like, 500 00:19:15,119 --> 00:19:17,080 Speaker 3: I want to look really crappy, like I wanted to 501 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:18,680 Speaker 3: look like I got it done in jail. It doesn't 502 00:19:18,680 --> 00:19:20,240 Speaker 3: need to look nice like the rest of my word. 503 00:19:20,880 --> 00:19:23,280 Speaker 3: And the guy that did it was like, I don't 504 00:19:23,280 --> 00:19:24,960 Speaker 3: know what you're doing, but I'm getting off after this 505 00:19:25,000 --> 00:19:25,879 Speaker 3: and we're gonna go party. 506 00:19:25,920 --> 00:19:28,760 Speaker 1: There you go. The body is a gallery, all right, Look, 507 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:32,480 Speaker 1: we gotta we gotta roll Kyle Creek follow him or 508 00:19:32,680 --> 00:19:36,560 Speaker 1: the captain. Just do it and keep listening to Gandhi's 509 00:19:36,560 --> 00:19:39,879 Speaker 1: podcast as you should be doing anyway. Sauce on the 510 00:19:39,920 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: side because he will be a guest very soon. Yes, 511 00:19:41,920 --> 00:19:43,720 Speaker 1: it's great seeing you. Thank you very much. Hey, do 512 00:19:43,760 --> 00:19:45,680 Speaker 1: you want to hang out with your boyfriend Nate? Yeah, 513 00:19:45,680 --> 00:19:48,080 Speaker 1: we're gonna good lunch after this, right, are you? God? 514 00:19:48,240 --> 00:19:50,600 Speaker 1: Are you really? Yeah, we're going to go talk tanks. 515 00:19:50,640 --> 00:19:53,000 Speaker 1: I think we literally. 516 00:19:52,680 --> 00:19:56,480 Speaker 2: Were your tank talking. 517 00:19:56,920 --> 00:19:59,920 Speaker 1: We were talking about tanks, tak How cool is this? 518 00:20:00,359 --> 00:20:02,480 Speaker 1: You have a tange, my buddy, and like a fish tank. 519 00:20:02,520 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 3: My buddy in Saint Louis bought an actual tank, like 520 00:20:04,640 --> 00:20:06,800 Speaker 3: like like a fish de commissioned military tank. 521 00:20:06,880 --> 00:20:08,879 Speaker 1: Oh, not a fish tank. He's got He's got a. 522 00:20:08,880 --> 00:20:12,480 Speaker 3: Legit military He just has two hundred acres and was like, 523 00:20:12,480 --> 00:20:14,080 Speaker 3: why not I can get a take on your tank. 524 00:20:15,119 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: He just he just blows crap up a like shoot 525 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:20,359 Speaker 1: the gun and everything. 526 00:20:20,440 --> 00:20:22,119 Speaker 3: It doesn't have the mounts on it yet, but he's 527 00:20:22,160 --> 00:20:24,480 Speaker 3: gonna get one for sure. He's that kind of first 528 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:27,600 Speaker 3: Amazon sell everything. Kyle, thank you for coming. 529 00:20:27,680 --> 00:20:28,520 Speaker 1: Mind you grabbing me