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Speaker 2: Good evening, Steeler Nation, how we do it? Well, that's

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Speaker 2: good us too. Our number two here of the Drive

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Speaker 2: on this Tuesday, January the twentieth. As we roll along, Matt,

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Speaker 2: I wanted to a lot of coaching specifics and Steelers

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Speaker 2: specifics in the first hour. Yeah, yeah, and we'll get

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Speaker 2: back to some of that here, but I did want

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Speaker 2: to transition into a more around the league topic here

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Speaker 2: to begin our two and just wanted to kick around

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Speaker 2: a article today that I found very interesting, you know,

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Speaker 2: Jeremy Fowler. Yeah, I think most of away, right, I

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Speaker 2: think most of our most of our listeners do. Because

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Speaker 2: of now he's plastered all over ESPN all the time. Yeah,

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Speaker 2: but he little background for people. Jeremy Fowler is now

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Speaker 2: he's the senior NFL reporter for ESPN. He's like right

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Speaker 2: behind Adam Schefter in terms of their you know, kind

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Speaker 2: of I think pecking order there. He was.

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Speaker 3: I took over for my buddy Mike Sandos. Yes, Mike

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Speaker 3: went yes athletic.

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Speaker 2: He was for a handful of years the Steelers ESPN reporter.

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Speaker 2: The job that Brooke prior does. Now. Jeremy was that

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Speaker 2: for for a handful of years, and like Matt said,

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Speaker 2: he was literally in the same hallway as us for

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Speaker 2: all those those first handful of years at training camp,

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Speaker 2: and so we know him pretty well. Yeah, and he's

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Speaker 2: dialed in and has about as good information as anybody.

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Speaker 2: And one thing that he does every year, I'm sure

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Speaker 2: you and Dale would talk about it or reference it.

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Speaker 2: Motes and I always would. It was a good off

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Speaker 2: season content piece. He would pull like twenty five different

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Speaker 2: league executives, so GMS, scouts, coaches like kind of a

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Speaker 2: wide range and get their top ten at every position.

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Speaker 2: Oh wow, that came to No, that's an off season.

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Speaker 2: It does like every June, and Motes and I would

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Speaker 2: always have a lot of fun with that because that's

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Speaker 2: like people, there's a top ten list at every position,

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Speaker 2: and it's not just media people or it's it's a player.

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Speaker 2: It's a wide range of GMS and coaches and scouts.

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Speaker 2: It's an interesting kind of talking.

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Speaker 3: That's kind of an exercising stole from Sandy going.

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Speaker 2: They just kept that going, kind.

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Speaker 3: Of like his quarterback list or quarterback teers.

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Speaker 2: Right, and and it's from about the best sources that

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Speaker 2: you could source that kind of thing from.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, it's a wide variety, and you know, it's people.

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Speaker 2: It's it's it's asking Jimmy Hendrix what you think about

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Speaker 2: the best guitars in the world. Yeah, it's pretty good,

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Speaker 2: pretty pretty people that know their stuff. Uh. Jeremy posted

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Speaker 2: today and I found this very interesting. He talked to

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Speaker 2: that same group away same group of league executives, coaches,

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Speaker 2: and scouts and asked them for their boldest off season prediction.

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Speaker 2: Oh okay, I didn't see this in terms of UH roster,

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Speaker 2: trade market, free agency.

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Speaker 2: And then he posted a handful of what he thought

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Speaker 3: Stand out stuff. Yes, all right, let's get through, man,

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Speaker 3: that's cool.

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Speaker 2: One is the Ravens trade Lamar Jackson. Wow, with the

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Speaker 2: potential of the landing spot being the Raiders. Wow.

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Speaker 3: I mean first overall would have to be involved.

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Speaker 2: I would think that that would be the first overall.

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Speaker 3: And then Mendoz ends up in Baltimore.

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Speaker 2: Dos ends up in Baltimore, and man, I would not

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Speaker 3: I'd rather rather play against Mendoza than Lamar.

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Speaker 2: I would too, But I also would not like handing

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Speaker 2: the Ravens. Yeah, the clear cut number one quarterback of

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Speaker 3: Which I get. So I heard some rumblings from people

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Speaker 3: like sort of, I'm not a everyone knows, I'm not

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Speaker 3: a Fowler insider, you know, dig in for stories. But

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Speaker 3: people I trust thought that there was a chance Lamar

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Speaker 2: And that's what Jeremy says, like it's all seems like

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Speaker 2: there's some consternation between Lamar and the Ravens.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, but when Harbaugh was fired, I just assumed that

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Speaker 3: Lamar being I don't think Lamar was happy how they

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Speaker 2: That one seems unlikely, seems unlikely. But this is bold predictions.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, exactly. I mean it's bold as could be.

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Speaker 2: You know. Bashadi said in his press conference they did

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Speaker 2: have Lamar Jackson sign a contract extension by March.

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Speaker 3: I say, I think he's it's also time to start talking.

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Speaker 2: No, I want to leave my options open.

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Speaker 3: Okay, that could be. That's definitely a sticking point.

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Speaker 2: That's an interesting one, no doubt. I would have said

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Speaker 2: more likely Burrow, same same thing. Yeah, but I guess

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Speaker 2: with the with regime change in Baltimore, you never know.

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Speaker 2: It leaves the door, leaves the light on for a

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Speaker 3: I need more than first overall, pick though, for if

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Speaker 2: Like, what if it was that in a third round pick.

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Speaker 3: How about him and Crosby, Max Crosby and one one

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Speaker 2: Now that might be a little too rich for my blood,

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Speaker 3: Maybe I'm throwing you a third back or something like that.

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Speaker 3: I mean, the Raiders wouldn't win with Lamar for a

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Speaker 3: new to their city. Sure, they have a lot more

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Speaker 2: They here's a two time MVP, only twenty nine years old,

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Speaker 3: I mean, the offense could be good with him and

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Speaker 2: They get a piece or two on the offensive line.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Yeah, And frankly, I think the old line will

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Speaker 2: You know the second one, this feels like, do you.

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Speaker 3: Do that feel the Ravens? Do you do Mendoza and

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Speaker 2: I would be more inclined to do it from Baltimore's

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Speaker 3: For that deal.

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Speaker 2: Yes, because if I was the Raiders and I thought

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Speaker 3: But I would mind having him for five years, and

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Speaker 3: for all the reasons we talked about.

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Speaker 3: And the contracts looming.

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Speaker 3: Frankly, he's had some injuries and I don't know that

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Speaker 3: he'll We have this conversation to rather be the head

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Speaker 3: still would be a very good pocket passer. There's a misconception.

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Speaker 3: But boy, there's been a lot of injuries lately. I mean,

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Speaker 3: the Ravens would know better than anybody. Man. Maybe we

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Speaker 2: Be an interesting one to keep an eye on. Second

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Speaker 2: one is the Eagles trade AJ Brown. I could see

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Speaker 3: I say, the Bills to me should definitely be interested

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Speaker 2: Cap down the road like nobody's business, and it makes

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Speaker 2: it hard to deal those dudes.

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Speaker 3: I mean it's guys that they're or the Lifers or

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Speaker 3: But I think Brown is one of them where he's

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Speaker 3: like a sixty million dollars cap hit in twenty eighteen.

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Speaker 3: I'm making this up, but along those lines. So his

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Speaker 2: It is not, but if you're Buffalo, you might be

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Speaker 2: desperate enough to do there something time. Other potential fits

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Speaker 2: the Titans, the Browns, the Raiders. Does it make sense?

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Speaker 3: Yeah? Yeah, yeah, But man, I think he.

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Speaker 2: Goes AJ Brown to Buffalo feels like he would fit

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Speaker 2: their style and their need, and that is twenty fifth

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Speaker 2: overall the Bills will be picking. I think something like that.

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Speaker 3: Yeah. I think he's slightly declining though too.

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Speaker 2: I do.

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Speaker 3: He's had some lower body injury.

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Speaker 2: He turns twenty nine. Yeah, this son of beating two

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Speaker 2: number three. The Atlanta Falcons roll with Kirk Cousins as

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Speaker 3: Wow. I mean, I don't know Pennick's injury situation enough,

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Speaker 3: but I think it's highly questionable if he's even ready

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Speaker 2: Because he had that ACL injury in November. Okay, so

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Speaker 2: that would be pushing right up against it.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, and I could see stuff and Cousins just.

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Speaker 2: They worked together in twenty nineteen in Minnesota when Kirk

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Speaker 3: Would you field offers for Penix? You can't until he's healthy.

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Speaker 2: Or if you're two and four at that right, right right.

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Speaker 2: When there was two teams from that division that just

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Speaker 3: Really strong. If you get Jones back to playing where

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Speaker 2: They won't have the first place schedule or anything like that. Interesting.

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Speaker 2: A couple more player personnel ones Falcons franchise Tag Kyle Pitts.

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Speaker 3: I don't see any of them succeeding there. No, Kyler

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Speaker 2: On the drive, Matt, I was going through some notes

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Speaker 2: Euler Williamson, it is the Drive on Steelers Nation Radio

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Speaker 2: on the Steelers Audio Network.

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Speaker 1: Your teams about Drive on your twenty four to seven

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Speaker 2: So, Matt, there are a couple big picture things this

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Speaker 2: We got a funny tweet we were laughing about, Hey, Wes,

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Speaker 2: I teased and just shared with you a couple of

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Speaker 2: I figure we'll do that. We'll revive best of the way.

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Speaker 2: It's been a few weeks since we've done the Best

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Speaker 2: We're going to do that tomorrow.

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Speaker 3: Tomorrow. Okay, let's go Thams, but we'll definitely spend a

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Speaker 2: Let's let's absolutely plan to do that along with Best

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Speaker 2: see how I did. The first was Mason Rudolph makes

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Speaker 3: I mean, it seems like Asian history now. But a

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Speaker 2: Know that that he did, broke that left wrist. Just

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Speaker 2: I like it, Yeah, I like it.

441
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Speaker 3: I mean remember the Brandon Thorne episode we were saying

442
00:21:00,000 --> 00:21:01,520
Speaker 3: and we did a little while back. I mean, they

443
00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,159
Speaker 3: had Falton, who is their second team All Pro at

444
00:21:06,240 --> 00:21:09,120
Speaker 3: right tackle Lane Johnson miss time. They had him behind

445
00:21:09,119 --> 00:21:11,680
Speaker 3: Penny School. Yes, and it wasn't a slam dunk. They

446
00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:15,600
Speaker 3: talked it through, but he's I would say, top five

447
00:21:15,880 --> 00:21:19,600
Speaker 3: right tackle with you know, pretty much undeniably. I know

448
00:21:19,680 --> 00:21:22,200
Speaker 3: he didn't have a great game against Houston, but frankly,

449
00:21:22,240 --> 00:21:25,760
Speaker 3: nobody does, you know, especially when they're left on island

450
00:21:25,760 --> 00:21:30,280
Speaker 3: a lot. I absolutely think Frasier is a top five center.

451
00:21:33,240 --> 00:21:37,000
Speaker 3: I would have Chiefs and Dolphins ahead of him. I

452
00:21:37,040 --> 00:21:41,280
Speaker 3: would not have Linderbaum ahead of him. And that's about it. Yeah,

453
00:21:41,320 --> 00:21:43,520
Speaker 3: I mean I think he's a top three for me.

454
00:21:43,640 --> 00:21:45,680
Speaker 3: I mean I'm being conservative on top five for both

455
00:21:45,760 --> 00:21:51,520
Speaker 3: these guys. Vegas says that qualifies as stars. I mean

456
00:21:51,520 --> 00:21:53,080
Speaker 3: that's kind of a vague term. You know, it's not

457
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:54,639
Speaker 3: an over under a one and a half, you know,

458
00:21:54,800 --> 00:21:56,080
Speaker 3: so I think that's a star.

459
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Speaker 2: I think so. I think most people are there with Fraser.

460
00:22:01,600 --> 00:22:03,360
Speaker 2: He got the recognition last year. He got a little

461
00:22:03,359 --> 00:22:06,000
Speaker 2: bit of recognition and we were talking a lot of people.

462
00:22:06,080 --> 00:22:08,760
Speaker 2: So he didn't make the you know, the the first

463
00:22:08,920 --> 00:22:11,840
Speaker 2: team or the first and second team. All pros were

464
00:22:11,840 --> 00:22:14,040
Speaker 2: Creed Humphrey and from the Dolphins.

465
00:22:14,320 --> 00:22:14,760
Speaker 3: I could.

466
00:22:16,320 --> 00:22:18,280
Speaker 2: No, No, that's the defensive coordinator that you were just

467
00:22:18,280 --> 00:22:18,680
Speaker 2: talking about.

468
00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,880
Speaker 3: I always want to call him Jensen. It's not Ryan Jensen.

469
00:22:21,160 --> 00:22:24,280
Speaker 2: No, it's not Ryan Jensen. This is gonna this is

470
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Speaker 2: going to really bother.

471
00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,480
Speaker 3: A phenomenal year. And I've been telling people even like

472
00:22:27,480 --> 00:22:31,359
Speaker 3: when the Steelers told Aaron Brewer, Brewer like he was

473
00:22:31,359 --> 00:22:33,520
Speaker 3: one of my guys, like Petrie you when the Steelers

474
00:22:33,560 --> 00:22:35,280
Speaker 3: played them, I'm like, keep an eye on the center.

475
00:22:35,400 --> 00:22:37,080
Speaker 3: He's really really good. No one knows who he is,

476
00:22:37,119 --> 00:22:40,040
Speaker 3: you know, I always forget his name, which is so bad.

477
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:42,800
Speaker 2: Yes, yes, indeedy uh.

478
00:22:42,960 --> 00:22:44,800
Speaker 3: And you'd bring the best of the Lineman of the

479
00:22:44,880 --> 00:22:46,520
Speaker 3: Year award, but he probably should.

480
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Speaker 2: Yes, I think you agree with that. And where I

481
00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:53,040
Speaker 2: was going with that was most people, like the Brandon

482
00:22:53,040 --> 00:22:56,040
Speaker 2: Thorns of the world, will do three deep on the

483
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Speaker 2: roll pros just for additional conversation content filling our and

484
00:23:00,359 --> 00:23:02,720
Speaker 2: most people who do that who had their third third

485
00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:05,439
Speaker 2: team All pros had Zach Frasier. The vast majority that

486
00:23:05,480 --> 00:23:09,040
Speaker 2: I saw, And I think, I think not a lot.

487
00:23:09,200 --> 00:23:11,960
Speaker 2: That's over exaggerating, but I think a portion of Steeler

488
00:23:12,000 --> 00:23:15,560
Speaker 2: fans are down on FULTONU because he wasn't great against

489
00:23:15,600 --> 00:23:16,120
Speaker 2: the Texans.

490
00:23:16,160 --> 00:23:17,399
Speaker 3: Yeah, but you're nuts, folks.

491
00:23:17,480 --> 00:23:19,560
Speaker 2: I think I think you're being a little too.

492
00:23:20,000 --> 00:23:21,600
Speaker 3: Not to mention that was basically his rookie year.

493
00:23:21,800 --> 00:23:25,760
Speaker 2: Basically his rookie year. That is, that is the toughest

494
00:23:25,760 --> 00:23:29,639
Speaker 2: matchup he faced all season. Oh yeah, and and I

495
00:23:29,640 --> 00:23:32,000
Speaker 2: don't think they did the best job in giving him

496
00:23:32,000 --> 00:23:34,160
Speaker 2: some help either. It wasn't a great game from him,

497
00:23:34,400 --> 00:23:38,840
Speaker 2: But it's his first complete season in the NFL. I'm

498
00:23:38,880 --> 00:23:40,399
Speaker 2: not worried about him going forward.

499
00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:44,040
Speaker 3: This sounds crazy, but he might be the most valuable

500
00:23:44,040 --> 00:23:49,399
Speaker 3: Steeler in terms of like who would you not That

501
00:23:49,480 --> 00:23:51,720
Speaker 3: sounds horrible, Like who do you most not want to

502
00:23:51,720 --> 00:23:54,160
Speaker 3: get hit by a bus? You know what I mean?

503
00:23:57,080 --> 00:23:59,199
Speaker 2: If they were stocks on the market the most expense

504
00:23:59,240 --> 00:24:01,719
Speaker 2: of the buyer, right, or they decided they don't want

505
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:02,720
Speaker 2: to play football, anymore.

506
00:24:02,960 --> 00:24:04,399
Speaker 3: Put it that way, instead of getting hit by a

507
00:24:04,400 --> 00:24:05,800
Speaker 3: bus Andrew Luckett, you know, like.

508
00:24:07,240 --> 00:24:09,400
Speaker 2: Carrow and Best of the West, your top ten Steelers.

509
00:24:09,440 --> 00:24:10,959
Speaker 2: You don't want to get hit by a bus.

510
00:24:11,480 --> 00:24:14,520
Speaker 3: In terms of age value position he.

511
00:24:14,480 --> 00:24:17,480
Speaker 2: Plays, him, Joey Porter or Nick Herbik would probably be

512
00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:18,119
Speaker 2: your three right now.

513
00:24:18,200 --> 00:24:20,440
Speaker 3: Yeah, Herbie's not really even a starter, you know what

514
00:24:20,440 --> 00:24:24,680
Speaker 3: I mean. Like, but you're right, and he's more than Watt. Yeah, yeah,

515
00:24:24,760 --> 00:24:26,880
Speaker 3: I mean, Fraser's in the conversation.

516
00:24:26,520 --> 00:24:28,760
Speaker 2: But a tackle is much more valuable at the center.

517
00:24:29,040 --> 00:24:32,280
Speaker 3: I think he's your most important player, most valuable player.

518
00:24:32,640 --> 00:24:35,000
Speaker 3: I think, I mean think he should have won the MVP.

519
00:24:35,280 --> 00:24:36,120
Speaker 3: But I mean, you know what I mean.

520
00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:39,440
Speaker 2: If these were stocks on a board, that's him and

521
00:24:39,520 --> 00:24:41,600
Speaker 2: Joey Porter Junior would probably be the two that you'd

522
00:24:41,600 --> 00:24:42,320
Speaker 2: be paying the most.

523
00:24:42,200 --> 00:24:42,760
Speaker 3: For right now.

524
00:24:42,840 --> 00:24:44,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, for the rest of their career, for the rest

525
00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:47,240
Speaker 2: of their rower. Yes, so you give me that one.

526
00:24:47,320 --> 00:24:53,080
Speaker 2: I like it. This one. There is no there is

527
00:24:53,119 --> 00:24:55,359
Speaker 2: no We don't need the Olympic figure skating judge to

528
00:24:55,400 --> 00:24:58,080
Speaker 2: come in and give a subjective opinion. I said that

529
00:24:58,119 --> 00:25:01,080
Speaker 2: the Steelers defense would finish top three in sacks and

530
00:25:01,160 --> 00:25:03,920
Speaker 2: top three in turnovers In twenty twenty.

531
00:25:03,600 --> 00:25:05,600
Speaker 3: Five, did they end up top three in turnovers?

532
00:25:05,680 --> 00:25:11,159
Speaker 2: They ended up fourth in turnovers Bears one with thirty

533
00:25:11,160 --> 00:25:15,119
Speaker 2: three of them, Jags two with thirty one, Houston with

534
00:25:15,160 --> 00:25:18,080
Speaker 2: twenty nine, the Steelers with twenty seven. Steelers finished.

535
00:25:18,119 --> 00:25:19,840
Speaker 3: I mean, that's a bold prediction by you.

536
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,080
Speaker 2: Well, last year the Steelers were second in turnovers, forced

537
00:25:23,240 --> 00:25:25,600
Speaker 2: sixteenth in sacks. Yeah, and I said, they'll be top

538
00:25:25,640 --> 00:25:28,639
Speaker 2: three in turnovers again, and they'll be top three in sacks.

539
00:25:28,640 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 2: This year they were fourth in turnovers, not.

540
00:25:31,960 --> 00:25:33,760
Speaker 3: Too far off, and you'll take that all day long.

541
00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:37,400
Speaker 2: Sixth in sacks. They were one sack away from from

542
00:25:37,400 --> 00:25:40,720
Speaker 2: finishing it in the top five, but not beat not

543
00:25:40,720 --> 00:25:43,520
Speaker 2: not top three, but but pretty I mean fourth and

544
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:44,640
Speaker 2: sixth not bad.

545
00:25:44,960 --> 00:25:47,240
Speaker 3: I mean that bet would have paid well, you know

546
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:49,440
Speaker 3: what I mean, if you would have hit that parlay.

547
00:25:49,119 --> 00:25:50,760
Speaker 2: I should have taken top five and then I would

548
00:25:50,760 --> 00:25:52,560
Speaker 2: have been at least close. But yes, you're right, that

549
00:25:52,600 --> 00:25:54,120
Speaker 2: would have paid out pretty handsome.

550
00:25:54,119 --> 00:25:56,560
Speaker 3: That's paying eight to one or something, or at least

551
00:25:57,119 --> 00:25:59,920
Speaker 3: to be top three in both. We talked to sack

552
00:26:00,080 --> 00:26:03,080
Speaker 3: thing the death going into the season, and you know

553
00:26:03,119 --> 00:26:05,800
Speaker 3: we kind of I mean we were strong about it,

554
00:26:05,840 --> 00:26:08,240
Speaker 3: like it's your god given right you should be first,

555
00:26:08,400 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 3: you know, like we would probably would have would we

556
00:26:11,480 --> 00:26:13,720
Speaker 3: have taken six then.

557
00:26:14,000 --> 00:26:16,720
Speaker 2: I think when you tell me that with one more sack,

558
00:26:16,800 --> 00:26:19,280
Speaker 2: they would have actually been tied for fourth. Oh really,

559
00:26:19,359 --> 00:26:22,480
Speaker 2: so the Vikings and the Lions were one ahead of them. Okay,

560
00:26:23,040 --> 00:26:26,440
Speaker 2: so I mean they they're firmly right there, they're right there.

561
00:26:26,600 --> 00:26:28,160
Speaker 2: I think I think I would be a top five

562
00:26:29,119 --> 00:26:31,160
Speaker 2: when I made this prediction, and I say the Steelers

563
00:26:31,200 --> 00:26:34,040
Speaker 2: finished top three and turnovers forced and in sacks. If

564
00:26:34,080 --> 00:26:37,159
Speaker 2: you would have said they'll finish fourth and sixth, I

565
00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:39,720
Speaker 2: would have probably taken that. Sign me up, sign me up. Yeah,

566
00:26:39,720 --> 00:26:42,480
Speaker 2: I'm not going fish for the other all the alternative.

567
00:26:42,560 --> 00:26:43,239
Speaker 3: Yeah, sign me up.

568
00:26:44,280 --> 00:26:47,680
Speaker 2: And that's yeah, so not quite but but but pretty

569
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:51,560
Speaker 2: to risk your Broncos by far led the league with

570
00:26:51,600 --> 00:26:54,080
Speaker 2: sacks with with sixty eight, then the thous and second

571
00:26:54,640 --> 00:26:58,720
Speaker 2: Houston was actually behind the Steelers with forty five. Falcons

572
00:26:58,720 --> 00:27:02,520
Speaker 2: were second, which watches where they've been. That's that's an

573
00:27:02,520 --> 00:27:05,520
Speaker 2: Indiana type turnaround for they've been in that depart.

574
00:27:05,320 --> 00:27:08,120
Speaker 3: People know my Steeler Falcons stats. I mean that's.

575
00:27:08,240 --> 00:27:11,160
Speaker 2: Steelers have by far the most in the twenty.

576
00:27:10,960 --> 00:27:14,320
Speaker 3: First century, repeating it because it's a blast going into

577
00:27:14,359 --> 00:27:17,719
Speaker 3: the season. Over the last five years, the Steelers had

578
00:27:17,720 --> 00:27:20,840
Speaker 3: the most Saxon League, Falcons had the least. Over the

579
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,480
Speaker 3: last ten years that Stewers had the most Saxon League,

580
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:25,680
Speaker 3: Falcons had the least over the last Over the last

581
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,639
Speaker 3: twenty years, Falcons had the most, the least sacks. The

582
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:30,399
Speaker 3: Steelers had the most. Falcons at the least.

583
00:27:30,520 --> 00:27:32,640
Speaker 2: That's nuts. So you're saying there's a pattern here, Yeah,

584
00:27:32,800 --> 00:27:36,320
Speaker 2: that is nuts. Good for the Falcons number two, fifty seven,

585
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,920
Speaker 2: Browns third with fifty three. Oh yeah, then the Lines

586
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,240
Speaker 2: and the Vikings forty nine, Steelers forty eight Rams right

587
00:27:43,240 --> 00:27:45,359
Speaker 2: on their heels with forty seven Rams also were right

588
00:27:45,400 --> 00:27:48,199
Speaker 2: behind the Steelers one less turnover with twenty six. So

589
00:27:48,640 --> 00:27:50,840
Speaker 2: for those of you doing your Chris Shula homework.

590
00:27:50,560 --> 00:27:53,520
Speaker 3: Yeah, I was about to do flores homework on the sacks.

591
00:27:54,320 --> 00:27:56,520
Speaker 3: If he would be the head coach, I would bet

592
00:27:56,520 --> 00:27:58,480
Speaker 3: the number goes up. I don't know if they'll be

593
00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:01,920
Speaker 3: higher than six, but I bet there. I bet they'll

594
00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,640
Speaker 3: have more sacks next year if Flores is a head

595
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:05,800
Speaker 3: coach than they did this year.

596
00:28:05,880 --> 00:28:08,080
Speaker 2: Well, let's be honest, the Vikings had one more than

597
00:28:08,119 --> 00:28:12,600
Speaker 2: the Steelers, but with pass Rushteers have much better pass rushers,

598
00:28:13,000 --> 00:28:16,040
Speaker 2: So that's that's another good kind of If you're trying

599
00:28:16,040 --> 00:28:18,760
Speaker 2: to deduce some coaching nuggets out of this as well,

600
00:28:19,520 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 2: that's a good two folks. I don't think people understand

601
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:26,479
Speaker 2: how impressive the Rams just when you look at their

602
00:28:26,480 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 2: defense on paper. In their numbers.

603
00:28:28,560 --> 00:28:30,479
Speaker 3: Last couple of weeks haven't been wonderful, but it's been

604
00:28:30,480 --> 00:28:31,000
Speaker 3: a great year.

605
00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:33,800
Speaker 2: They for the year are top ten and basically every

606
00:28:34,080 --> 00:28:37,600
Speaker 2: statistical category that you count as important, and they did

607
00:28:37,640 --> 00:28:40,320
Speaker 2: so with the dead last spending defense in the nation.

608
00:28:40,400 --> 00:28:43,680
Speaker 3: Riball right, now you give them the first highest spending defense.

609
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:45,880
Speaker 2: We talk about that one hundred and sixty million number

610
00:28:45,920 --> 00:28:48,400
Speaker 2: for the Steelers or whatever it is. Sixty two million

611
00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:51,040
Speaker 2: dollars was the Rams defensive payroll this past season.

612
00:28:51,080 --> 00:28:53,480
Speaker 3: So it's frankly, they're back seven is not loaded with

613
00:28:53,520 --> 00:28:56,280
Speaker 3: good players. Agree, Their D line is a very good. Agree,

614
00:28:56,280 --> 00:28:57,440
Speaker 3: but it's young and cheap.

615
00:28:58,160 --> 00:29:02,360
Speaker 2: So Mason Rudolph over one and a half starts close,

616
00:29:02,400 --> 00:29:06,120
Speaker 2: but no cigar, Fraser and Faltanu becomes stars. Matt's given

617
00:29:06,120 --> 00:29:09,720
Speaker 2: me that one paid out top three defense at sacks

618
00:29:09,720 --> 00:29:13,120
Speaker 2: and turnovers. Man close, but no Cigar. But still I'm

619
00:29:13,160 --> 00:29:17,800
Speaker 2: pretty happy with with the stratosphere of that one. And

620
00:29:17,840 --> 00:29:19,680
Speaker 2: then this one I think is definitely going to pay out, Matt.

621
00:29:19,760 --> 00:29:23,000
Speaker 2: My last one was the lack of wide receiver depth

622
00:29:23,040 --> 00:29:25,720
Speaker 2: will bite this team at a bad time once again

623
00:29:25,920 --> 00:29:29,760
Speaker 2: pays out. That pays out easily, easily throughout the season.

624
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 3: I think that one, not just even the Metcalf thing,

625
00:29:32,440 --> 00:29:33,080
Speaker 3: you know, it was.

626
00:29:33,480 --> 00:29:36,440
Speaker 2: It was that even when you had Metcalf, that one

627
00:29:36,520 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 2: was paying out. And then especially in that Cleveland game

628
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,960
Speaker 2: that you lost, that paid out. I think in the

629
00:29:42,040 --> 00:29:43,000
Speaker 2: in the Houston.

630
00:29:42,640 --> 00:29:46,400
Speaker 3: Play, the way people treated Metcalf, I mean, he would

631
00:29:46,440 --> 00:29:48,880
Speaker 3: have had a bigger year with another guy over there.

632
00:29:49,800 --> 00:29:53,800
Speaker 3: I don't think any of the other receivers you're thrilled with,

633
00:29:54,040 --> 00:29:56,040
Speaker 3: you know, I mean you had to resort to even

634
00:29:56,120 --> 00:29:58,760
Speaker 3: go and get in feeling and mvs off the street

635
00:29:59,520 --> 00:30:02,640
Speaker 3: Roman Will and safe to say, did not take the step.

636
00:30:04,080 --> 00:30:07,160
Speaker 3: Austin was okay, but he's not a two you know.

637
00:30:07,320 --> 00:30:10,360
Speaker 2: Yes he belongs on an NFL field, Yeah yeah, but

638
00:30:11,040 --> 00:30:12,720
Speaker 2: you'd really like him if he was like your third

639
00:30:12,800 --> 00:30:15,000
Speaker 2: or fourth piece, I mean, not your number.

640
00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,720
Speaker 3: Two Scronic lived up to expectations because they were low

641
00:30:17,760 --> 00:30:19,840
Speaker 3: and he was a special teamer. But other than that,

642
00:30:19,840 --> 00:30:23,840
Speaker 3: who lived up to expectations or exceeded them really nobody?

643
00:30:23,920 --> 00:30:26,440
Speaker 2: No, Yeah, Darnell Washington, but he's not a wide receiver.

644
00:30:26,520 --> 00:30:28,080
Speaker 3: No right, yeah, doesn't count.

645
00:30:28,160 --> 00:30:30,400
Speaker 2: So that one I think might have been the easiest.

646
00:30:30,400 --> 00:30:32,920
Speaker 2: Pat it was a home run. But those were those

647
00:30:32,920 --> 00:30:35,800
Speaker 2: were the four that I made that didn't pay.

648
00:30:35,640 --> 00:30:38,240
Speaker 3: As that one was a little easier to see coming.

649
00:30:38,400 --> 00:30:42,080
Speaker 2: That was like, uh, you know, maybe taking the Dodgers way,

650
00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 2: maybe double your money, maybe taking the Dodgers to win

651
00:30:44,080 --> 00:30:46,120
Speaker 2: the World Series or or something like that.

652
00:30:46,040 --> 00:30:48,479
Speaker 3: Because we also thought at the time and you made it,

653
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:50,880
Speaker 3: they could trade for one of the deadline you know,

654
00:30:50,960 --> 00:30:52,880
Speaker 3: like they could have got Jacobe Myers and then you

655
00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:53,360
Speaker 3: lose your bet.

656
00:30:54,440 --> 00:30:56,320
Speaker 2: I would have been happy to lose that bad, yeah,

657
00:30:56,360 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 2: but I don't think I did. So those were the

658
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Speaker 2: four I thought. That was just kind of a fun

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Speaker 2: take a walk back and revisit that here.

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Speaker 3: That's something Dale and I have done too, is like

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Speaker 3: we try to remember what we thought of like a

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00:31:07,880 --> 00:31:10,400
Speaker 3: year ago, you know, like is a running back room

663
00:31:10,440 --> 00:31:12,959
Speaker 3: better now than it was one year ago? You know,

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Speaker 3: and it's hard to put yourself back in those shoes,

665
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Speaker 3: but it's also a good learning experience. Like this is

666
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Speaker 3: why I thought, like I did, I don't have a

667
00:31:20,480 --> 00:31:23,000
Speaker 3: crystal ball. I'm not gonna say I can get everything right.

668
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Speaker 3: But this is why we thought, Wow, they're set there

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Speaker 3: and you weren't. You know, like It's league throws you

670
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Speaker 3: a lot of curveballs.

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Speaker 2: Sure does, Sure does. And I think Aaron Rodgers being

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Speaker 2: healthy for sixteen out of your seventeen games was a

673
00:31:35,120 --> 00:31:37,360
Speaker 2: good curveball that the league grew at you.

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Speaker 3: If they bring him back and you get sixteen out

675
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Speaker 3: of you take that all day long.

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Speaker 2: If you're doing the hey Rogers plays sixteen games next year,

677
00:31:44,120 --> 00:31:46,960
Speaker 2: or you go fish right them taking the sixteen all.

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Speaker 3: Day long thing.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, maybe you get Will hired for one for a

680
00:31:50,520 --> 00:31:53,320
Speaker 2: start to appease the insurnation there. When we come back

681
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Speaker 2: on the other side, Matt, we've got a bunch of

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Speaker 2: tweets over the last few days, and it's been a

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Speaker 2: while since since we've gone to the Twitter mentions the

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Speaker 2: ex Twitter, as Dale would have called it, let's do

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Speaker 2: that to close down this show. When we returned on

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Speaker 2: the other side, West Shielder Matt Williamson, one more segment

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Speaker 2: to go here on this Tuesday on the Drive on

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Speaker 2: Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio Network, your tunes.

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Speaker 1: About Drive on your twenty four to seven home of

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Speaker 1: the Black and Goal, Steelers Nation Radio.

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Speaker 2: Closing down the drive here on a Tuesday with plenty

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Speaker 2: to get to, and we will continue to be keeping

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Speaker 2: our eyes and ears peeled on all the moving and

694
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:53,840
Speaker 2: shaking across the coaching carousel that continues to play out here.

695
00:32:54,120 --> 00:32:58,840
Speaker 2: It does sound like Anthony Weaver will have a in

696
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Speaker 2: person second follow up interview with the Steelers this week.

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Speaker 3: Okay, so I think just came across my phone that

698
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Speaker 3: Flores is having his second today.

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Speaker 2: Flores is having his second today. Reportedly that's being reported

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Speaker 2: as well. Weaver will have won this week as well.

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Speaker 3: Mike McCarthy, I assume you're like, sometimes it's you don't

702
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Speaker 3: ever want that guy to leave the building, if you

703
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Speaker 3: know he's the dude. I think the Steelers don't mind

704
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Speaker 3: when they leave the building. They're just patient and they're

705
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Speaker 3: going to do their due in diligence, and you know,

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Speaker 3: I don't think like when we get back here tomorrow, like.

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Speaker 2: Flores is the guy.

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Speaker 3: We love them, we can'tcel all the other interviews like

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Speaker 3: that just doesn't seem like their style.

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Speaker 2: He is their favor I agree, Yeah, yeah, yeah, I

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Speaker 2: think maybe, like say it one of the Rams guys,

712
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:48,920
Speaker 2: Shula or steel Hass was their guy. Yeah, and the

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Speaker 2: Rams would have lost in Chicago and they get that

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Speaker 2: guy in and they're like, Okay, we don't want him

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Speaker 2: to leave. You know, maybe if it's their number one

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Speaker 2: first option.

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Speaker 3: Like I think that's what happened with Titans. You know,

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Speaker 3: they hired their head coach a day or two after

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Speaker 3: the Niners got eliminated, you know, like I think they

720
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Speaker 3: knew who number one was.

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Speaker 2: Good good, good, parallel good parallel to draw there Wednesday,

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Speaker 2: it sounds like for Mike McCarthy tomorrow. According according to

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Speaker 2: uh Wonder, it's a good question.

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Speaker 3: I mean, who knows.

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Speaker 2: I mean, I'm sure somebody probably does know. But I

726
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Speaker 2: wonder if I wonder if he's around, you know what.

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Speaker 2: I do feel like I feel like he might be

728
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Speaker 2: now back in town because I not to, but I

729
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Speaker 2: feel like I remember he's on He's on McAfee often

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Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy as a guest on McAfee and I feel

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Speaker 2: like I remember him mentioning at some point that he

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Speaker 2: was back in western Pennsylvania because I think maybe his

733
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Speaker 2: dad has passed away a few years ago and his

734
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Speaker 2: mom's getting he came home to kind of take care

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Speaker 2: of his mom and and and and and be back

736
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Speaker 2: for her type thing. Don't quote me on that. I

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Speaker 2: just for some reason that popped into my mind. I

738
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Speaker 2: feel like I heard him saying that on McAfee, you know,

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Speaker 2: when those two were kind of yins and out for

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Speaker 2: for a few minutes one day. Like I feel like

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Speaker 2: I remember seeing a.

742
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Speaker 3: Clip of the Mark Cuban do a big ginser session last.

743
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Speaker 2: They did, Yes, they they sure did. He's got a nack.

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00:35:06,600 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 2: He's got a knack for doing that when he gets

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Speaker 2: the when he gets the yensers, when he gets the

746
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Speaker 2: yensers in the circle there and they all right, listen, mat,

747
00:35:12,120 --> 00:35:14,640
Speaker 2: there's a lot of yensers everywhere. There's always a Pittsburgh connection.

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Speaker 2: Let's see here. Uh Gillis tweets us and says, I

749
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Speaker 2: would love to have Mike McCarthy and a senior offensive

750
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Speaker 2: assistant type role, especially if you could pair him with

751
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Speaker 2: a first time head coach being hired I mean that.

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Speaker 3: Love that suggestion. I'm all proud of myself for.

753
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Speaker 2: That you did. A lot of people are mentioning that.

754
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Speaker 3: You want nothing to do with it. He might be like,

755
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Speaker 3: I'm a head coach. I'm not doing that. You know.

756
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Speaker 3: I just pulled that out of thin air. Like how

757
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Speaker 3: do you get the best of all worlds? It's kind

758
00:35:43,840 --> 00:35:45,720
Speaker 3: of like the RAMS thing. I like both those guys.

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Speaker 3: That doesn't mean it's an option.

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Speaker 2: It does not.

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Speaker 3: It does seem like I mean, the way we laid

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Speaker 3: it out yesterday, it seemed like that was not crazy

763
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Speaker 3: talk though. I mean I thought I was a very

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Speaker 3: believable situation.

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Speaker 2: Yes. Yes, And some guys when they get to that point,

766
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Speaker 2: it's like I either want to be the guy or

767
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Speaker 2: I'm not doing it. Other guys they get to that

768
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Speaker 2: point and they're like, you know what, I wouldn't hate,

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Speaker 2: you know, I wouldn't hate.

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Speaker 3: McCarthy lives in the Green Bay area from.

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Speaker 2: Dam Yes, Okay, well there you go. Wes was wrong again,

772
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Speaker 2: big there. James tweets us. And remember we had the

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Speaker 2: Roger Staubach Jared Stidham conversation yesterday nineteen seventy two. Roger

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Speaker 2: Staubach was injured in the preseason, Okay, did not start

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Speaker 2: a regular season game, came off the bench in the

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Speaker 2: fourth quarter of the divisional round, and then started his

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Speaker 2: first start of the seventy two season in the NFC

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Speaker 2: Championship Game. I think it was a different year that

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Speaker 2: they rotated.

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Speaker 3: That was early in Starbach's career. Morton was there ahead.

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Speaker 2: Of them, Yes, so this must have been a few

782
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Speaker 2: years later. Injured in the preseason, ends up coming back

783
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Speaker 2: in the end of the divisional round, and then starts

784
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Speaker 2: in the NFC Championship Game the following week.

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Speaker 3: So I had a strange conversation, by the way, since

786
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Speaker 3: you brought Roger, and it's applicable to the last night.

787
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Speaker 3: There are very few Heisman quarterbacks that won a Super Bowl.

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Speaker 3: Starbach's one of them.

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Speaker 2: Yes, plum very few, very.

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Speaker 3: Few, you know, I mean Plunket and he wasn't even

791
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Speaker 3: with his original team. It's Stabach and that's about it.

792
00:37:20,800 --> 00:37:23,440
Speaker 3: I know there's one newer one, and there's some obviously.

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Speaker 2: Borrow made it too but didn't win.

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Speaker 3: Right.

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00:37:25,719 --> 00:37:28,040
Speaker 2: Yeah, it's Starbuck and Plunket are the only two.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, I went through all the Heisman's and I think

797
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,000
Speaker 3: it's only two, which is kind of shocking.

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Speaker 2: Yes, and then when you go Heisman, super Bowl, MVPs,

799
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Speaker 2: Marcus Allen, Tony Dorsett, Charles Woodson. Oh yeah, yeah yeah,

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Speaker 2: but that's really about it, you know, like it.

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Speaker 3: Right, But it's funny like the best quarterback in the

802
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Speaker 3: NCAA rarely has achieved the biggest goal. That doesn't mean

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Speaker 3: Mendoza can't.

804
00:37:53,120 --> 00:37:55,160
Speaker 2: No, and I mean Joe Burrow is just right there.

805
00:37:55,280 --> 00:37:55,879
Speaker 2: You know, there's a.

806
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Speaker 3: Couple playing now that have plenty of opportunities.

807
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Speaker 2: Like Lamar a Heisman, Trump could he could win a

808
00:38:00,840 --> 00:38:06,200
Speaker 2: super Bowl. But you're right, it is. It's interesting for

809
00:38:06,280 --> 00:38:09,239
Speaker 2: sixty years, right, Cam Newton was another one got close

810
00:38:09,320 --> 00:38:09,959
Speaker 2: but never but.

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Speaker 3: Never did on and plunk. It's kind of a roundabout

812
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Speaker 3: way to get there.

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Speaker 2: That is interesting.

814
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Speaker 3: Yeah, that's that's That doesn't mean you don't draft Mendoza,

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00:38:18,160 --> 00:38:18,360
Speaker 3: but you.

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Speaker 2: Know, right, of course, of course it's a big body

817
00:38:21,640 --> 00:38:23,680
Speaker 2: of work, it is, and it also just kind of

818
00:38:23,680 --> 00:38:26,080
Speaker 2: reiterates what you and I say often it's very hard to.

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Speaker 3: Win a super Bowl, it is, right, and college game.

820
00:38:29,000 --> 00:38:31,000
Speaker 2: The college game is a is a lot different than

821
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Speaker 2: the pros, without a doubt, and quite often when you

822
00:38:33,000 --> 00:38:37,520
Speaker 2: get these Josh Allen types that come from smaller schools.

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Speaker 2: You know, they're not they're not on a platform where

824
00:38:39,680 --> 00:38:43,320
Speaker 2: they're winning the Heisman Trophy or or anything like that. Yeah,

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00:38:43,320 --> 00:38:46,240
Speaker 2: I mean seven and five was his best year at Texas.

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Speaker 3: Wasn't winning it at Miami or you know, great?

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00:38:48,840 --> 00:38:51,960
Speaker 2: Exactly right? Uh, Jack was the one who tweeted us.

828
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Speaker 3: I'm sure like Peyton Manning was a runner up. Or

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Speaker 3: I mean, I'm sure there's a lot that were at

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Speaker 3: the ceremony.

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Speaker 2: Ton Ton l Way. And yes, yes, a whole a

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00:39:03,120 --> 00:39:06,839
Speaker 2: whole bunch that we're that we're at the ceremony. Jack

833
00:39:06,960 --> 00:39:09,040
Speaker 2: was the one who tweeted Wes. I think you should

834
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Speaker 2: mix it up on a daily basis. I say, dotting

835
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Speaker 2: our t's and crossing our eyes. It makes me chuckle

836
00:39:13,960 --> 00:39:17,279
Speaker 2: every time. Use this with responsibility the same church, different view.

837
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Speaker 3: I like.

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Speaker 2: I like when we get tweets from people that that

839
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Speaker 2: just get just get the show. Sometimes someone you get

840
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Speaker 2: a tweet, Sometimes you get a tweet like that, and

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Speaker 2: you just Jack, you get the show. H R m

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Speaker 2: f C. Doge. I wonder if that means Real Madrid

843
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Speaker 2: Football Club. It does, according to his bio, Real Madrid

844
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Speaker 2: and Pittsburgh Steelers says, give me hashtag hashtag Shula with

845
00:39:43,280 --> 00:39:46,840
Speaker 2: the dollar sign as uh as the s there. I

846
00:39:46,920 --> 00:39:49,319
Speaker 2: think that's I think that's the if we pulled all

847
00:39:49,360 --> 00:39:51,400
Speaker 2: of Steeler Nation, if that was possible, I think that

848
00:39:51,400 --> 00:39:52,640
Speaker 2: would be the most popular pick.

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00:39:53,040 --> 00:39:55,560
Speaker 3: I think a lot of it's because they wont steel

850
00:39:55,640 --> 00:39:58,480
Speaker 3: has to them with them. I don't know if that's possible.

851
00:39:58,520 --> 00:40:00,279
Speaker 2: I don't know if that's possible. But if you're the

852
00:40:00,360 --> 00:40:02,480
Speaker 2: lead to write my dream scenario on the board that.

853
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Speaker 3: I would take that as opposed to door number two.

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00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:06,440
Speaker 2: That would give me I would not go fish.

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00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:08,120
Speaker 3: And if you gave me that right now, give me

856
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Speaker 3: to McVeigh. Guys right now, Okay.

857
00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:14,600
Speaker 2: David tweets and says, in regards to the Buffalo Baltimore conversation,

858
00:40:15,080 --> 00:40:18,440
Speaker 2: you walk around Buffalo, you freeze. You walk around Baltimore,

859
00:40:18,560 --> 00:40:20,000
Speaker 2: you get robbed. Which are you picking?

860
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Speaker 3: I did see that one.

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Speaker 2: I will say, as much as Baltimore has its rough areas,

862
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,879
Speaker 2: without a doubt, and I do, I do not want

863
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:30,600
Speaker 2: to make it seem like I'm carrying water for the

864
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Speaker 2: city of Baltimore. Yeah, it's also got some really nice areas.

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Speaker 2: The Inner Harbor just beautiful. Yeah, Federal Federal Hill, which

866
00:40:36,960 --> 00:40:39,920
Speaker 2: is kind of like their south Side or Lawrenceville equivalent,

867
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Speaker 2: is beautiful. A lot of bars and restaurants and fun

868
00:40:43,080 --> 00:40:46,440
Speaker 2: stuff to walk around. But yeah, I mean, Pittsburgh's way

869
00:40:46,440 --> 00:40:49,440
Speaker 2: better place to live there before than either of those places, obviously.

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Speaker 3: But awesome series. But I'm not sure The Wire does

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00:40:51,880 --> 00:40:56,040
Speaker 3: any favors for Baldo in terms of liveability.

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00:40:56,719 --> 00:40:59,160
Speaker 2: It's hilarious you say that because you are spot on.

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00:40:59,840 --> 00:41:05,280
Speaker 3: You are spot like every inch of Baltimore is looks.

874
00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:16,240
Speaker 2: Like good Lord, let's see. Annie tweets us and says,

875
00:41:18,400 --> 00:41:18,799
Speaker 2: I get that.

876
00:41:18,840 --> 00:41:23,960
Speaker 3: The whole Omar is around every corner with the shotgun, you.

877
00:41:23,880 --> 00:41:27,319
Speaker 2: Know, Omar coming. Yeah, all the Steeler fans, they love

878
00:41:27,360 --> 00:41:30,800
Speaker 2: to make the Omar Wire photo shops for Omar Kahan.

879
00:41:31,800 --> 00:41:34,239
Speaker 2: You know, a little bit of best of both worlds.

880
00:41:34,960 --> 00:41:38,960
Speaker 2: Annie says, like in the world of the not for long, uh,

881
00:41:39,160 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 2: change can often be good. I think it is always

882
00:41:41,480 --> 00:41:44,120
Speaker 2: harder to win the Super Bowl without a franchise quarterback.

883
00:41:45,200 --> 00:41:47,680
Speaker 2: You look at you know other than you know. You

884
00:41:47,680 --> 00:41:50,399
Speaker 2: look at guys like Patrick Mahomes, Joe Burrow, even uh,

885
00:41:50,719 --> 00:41:53,000
Speaker 2: you know Lamar and Josh Allen knocking on the door.

886
00:41:53,840 --> 00:41:57,399
Speaker 2: Levey lost four times with Kelly Schulan, never won one

887
00:41:57,400 --> 00:42:00,359
Speaker 2: with Marino. Easy to forget that winning a super Bowl

888
00:42:00,480 --> 00:42:04,920
Speaker 2: is hard. It's not much to expand on that crazy, crazy, difficult.

889
00:42:04,960 --> 00:42:08,040
Speaker 3: People need to realize that more. And she put it well.

890
00:42:08,280 --> 00:42:13,800
Speaker 2: She definitely did. Chrissy tweets us and says, please, please please, Hi.

891
00:42:13,280 --> 00:42:16,640
Speaker 3: Loses the super Bowl this year? Is it a bad year? No?

892
00:42:16,640 --> 00:42:22,000
Speaker 2: No, no it's not. And again I I am. We

893
00:42:22,040 --> 00:42:24,839
Speaker 2: are not naive, like we know that winning a super

894
00:42:24,880 --> 00:42:27,360
Speaker 2: Bowl is what it's all about. Yeah, that's what cements

895
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,000
Speaker 2: your legacy. You're in it for the parade, You're you

896
00:42:30,040 --> 00:42:31,920
Speaker 2: are in it for the parade. And as much as

897
00:42:32,440 --> 00:42:36,879
Speaker 2: people drive home that championships are a team accolade, which

898
00:42:36,920 --> 00:42:40,200
Speaker 2: they are, it's also a reason why when when you

899
00:42:40,600 --> 00:42:42,879
Speaker 2: someone says Tom Brady is the greatest quarterback ever, why

900
00:42:42,920 --> 00:42:45,080
Speaker 2: is that seven rings? Like it's the first thing that

901
00:42:45,120 --> 00:42:47,360
Speaker 2: you bring up when you're splitting the hairs of grace.

902
00:42:48,880 --> 00:42:50,800
Speaker 2: But I mean you you look at some of the

903
00:42:50,880 --> 00:42:53,080
Speaker 2: names now, the Burrows and la Mars and Allen's that

904
00:42:53,160 --> 00:42:55,640
Speaker 2: haven't won one. You look at all these young guys

905
00:42:55,640 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: that we like and have faith in you're not all

906
00:42:58,040 --> 00:43:00,200
Speaker 2: going to win super Bowls. They're they're just not.

907
00:43:01,239 --> 00:43:03,719
Speaker 3: I say this because their book's already written. But like,

908
00:43:04,800 --> 00:43:08,080
Speaker 3: if we were drafting all time quarterbacks or at least

909
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:11,360
Speaker 3: guys i've seen, like basically from nineteen eighty on, I

910
00:43:11,440 --> 00:43:14,120
Speaker 3: think Marino really really, really really high. Oh yeah, you know,

911
00:43:14,200 --> 00:43:16,279
Speaker 3: and maybe ahead of Brady you were like, you're out

912
00:43:16,320 --> 00:43:18,439
Speaker 3: of your mind, right, I'm not out of my mind.

913
00:43:18,440 --> 00:43:20,880
Speaker 3: If we if I if I did a PowerPoint presentation

914
00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:23,280
Speaker 3: and broke down film, you might you were convention.

915
00:43:23,320 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 2: If you could take super Bowl super Bowls out of

916
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:28,960
Speaker 2: the equation, yeah, you you could make a very compelling

917
00:43:29,040 --> 00:43:30,919
Speaker 2: argument that Dan Marino is the best quarterback ever.

918
00:43:31,120 --> 00:43:34,480
Speaker 3: Yeah. And frankly, Allen would be really high on my

919
00:43:34,520 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 3: list too.

920
00:43:35,160 --> 00:43:35,840
Speaker 2: You've talked about that.

921
00:43:35,880 --> 00:43:37,400
Speaker 3: But yeah, all right, do you want to play against

922
00:43:37,440 --> 00:43:39,879
Speaker 3: that guy? I do not. Yeah, I'd rather play against

923
00:43:39,920 --> 00:43:41,720
Speaker 3: Brett vaarrv or a lot of guys that want quarterbacks.

924
00:43:41,719 --> 00:43:43,640
Speaker 2: You know, a couple of quick hitters, young, you know

925
00:43:43,680 --> 00:43:45,640
Speaker 2: a couple of Yeah, a couple of quick hitters as

926
00:43:45,640 --> 00:43:48,000
Speaker 2: we and again I get it, like that is what

927
00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:52,440
Speaker 2: separates greatness, Yeah, is championships championships, championships. But it's man,

928
00:43:52,480 --> 00:43:56,400
Speaker 2: it's it's it's very hard to do. And uh, I

929
00:43:56,480 --> 00:43:58,359
Speaker 2: know that that is our standard here and that's what

930
00:43:58,400 --> 00:43:59,000
Speaker 2: I want it to be.

931
00:44:00,200 --> 00:44:02,880
Speaker 3: Forget this. I mean, on every snap there is a

932
00:44:02,960 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 3: quarterback on the field, But the other twenty one men

933
00:44:06,280 --> 00:44:11,880
Speaker 3: out there matter, you know, a lot, more so than basketball,

934
00:44:12,000 --> 00:44:12,920
Speaker 3: or oh more.

935
00:44:12,800 --> 00:44:15,719
Speaker 2: So than yeah one, I think baseball is probably the

936
00:44:15,719 --> 00:44:17,440
Speaker 2: only other one that you could argue, right, I.

937
00:44:17,440 --> 00:44:19,920
Speaker 3: Mean, the starting pitcher is the most valuable obviously, or

938
00:44:19,920 --> 00:44:21,440
Speaker 3: whoever that has the ball in his hands.

939
00:44:21,320 --> 00:44:23,880
Speaker 2: And you're, you know, your your clean up hitter or

940
00:44:23,920 --> 00:44:25,000
Speaker 2: whoever the case may be.

941
00:44:25,040 --> 00:44:27,919
Speaker 3: But any given snap, those other twenty one guys matter

942
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:28,279
Speaker 3: a lot.

943
00:44:28,760 --> 00:44:32,560
Speaker 2: Your cleanup hitter takes steps up to the plate once

944
00:44:32,600 --> 00:44:35,120
Speaker 2: every three innings. Your starting pitcher gets the ball once

945
00:44:35,160 --> 00:44:37,720
Speaker 2: every four or five days. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Sidney Crosby

946
00:44:37,719 --> 00:44:40,759
Speaker 2: plays thirty three percent of the game for the Penguins.

947
00:44:41,840 --> 00:44:44,480
Speaker 2: Quarterbacks got the ball in his hands every every play.

948
00:44:45,080 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 3: But but if you have Lebron you have a lot

949
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:49,000
Speaker 3: better chance than if you have Marina.

950
00:44:49,239 --> 00:44:52,640
Speaker 2: Sure, yeah, yeah, sure, And but you know, all it

951
00:44:52,680 --> 00:44:54,840
Speaker 2: takes is your left guard to completely blow his assignment,

952
00:44:54,880 --> 00:44:57,000
Speaker 2: and it doesn't It doesn't matter who you have back right.

953
00:44:57,960 --> 00:44:59,799
Speaker 2: A couple of quick hitters here that I always love,

954
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:03,240
Speaker 2: just the difference in these chrissy tweets us and please

955
00:45:03,480 --> 00:45:07,960
Speaker 2: and all caps please hire Buffalo's ex coach Sean McDermott please.

956
00:45:09,880 --> 00:45:12,600
Speaker 3: I understand if from a McCarthy conversation too. And he's

957
00:45:12,640 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 3: also a very good defensive schemer. He's not just a

958
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,400
Speaker 3: CEO type. He has won. There's been no rumors of

959
00:45:18,440 --> 00:45:18,759
Speaker 3: that though.

960
00:45:18,800 --> 00:45:19,480
Speaker 2: No, I don't think so.

961
00:45:19,719 --> 00:45:20,000
Speaker 3: Content.

962
00:45:20,120 --> 00:45:21,120
Speaker 2: He hasn't really been tied in.

963
00:45:21,200 --> 00:45:23,480
Speaker 3: I don't know if he's maybe he's taking the year. Yeah,

964
00:45:23,480 --> 00:45:23,840
Speaker 3: I don't know.

965
00:45:24,480 --> 00:45:26,399
Speaker 2: Ed tweets and says I think it's time to move

966
00:45:26,400 --> 00:45:29,320
Speaker 2: on from Aaron Rodgers. We've become the placeholder for past

967
00:45:29,440 --> 00:45:32,760
Speaker 2: their prime quarterbacks. Day late and a dollar short. Let's

968
00:45:32,760 --> 00:45:33,080
Speaker 2: move on.

969
00:45:33,440 --> 00:45:36,080
Speaker 3: I I totally understand that way of thinking too. In

970
00:45:36,080 --> 00:45:38,239
Speaker 3: the last couple of years, a new quarterback every year

971
00:45:38,280 --> 00:45:42,640
Speaker 3: gets very frustrating. But as we'll get into heavy, tell

972
00:45:42,680 --> 00:45:46,480
Speaker 3: me the other option. Yeah, what would you do?

973
00:45:46,480 --> 00:45:47,319
Speaker 2: Door number two? Yeah?

974
00:45:47,520 --> 00:45:48,800
Speaker 3: Yeah, door number two is scary.

975
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:51,600
Speaker 2: Door number two, for that conversation is very scary. This

976
00:45:51,680 --> 00:45:54,560
Speaker 2: year it is frightening, very very very scary.

977
00:45:55,880 --> 00:45:58,040
Speaker 3: Let's see he can try to sign the leak Willis

978
00:45:58,040 --> 00:46:01,400
Speaker 3: and tell Rogers if we don't, you know, Rogers is

979
00:46:01,440 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 3: gonna make his mind up today anyway.

980
00:46:03,080 --> 00:46:05,520
Speaker 2: No, you could be. I think even if you signed

981
00:46:05,560 --> 00:46:08,359
Speaker 2: Mike McCarthy today, if you hired Mike McCarthy today, he's

982
00:46:08,360 --> 00:46:10,760
Speaker 2: still gonna take some time, yeah, to make his decision.

983
00:46:11,080 --> 00:46:14,880
Speaker 2: Richard h tweets he really wants Clint Kubiak as the

984
00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:19,319
Speaker 2: Steelers head coach. It's in his blood. We do know

985
00:46:19,320 --> 00:46:22,239
Speaker 2: the Steelers. Uh, the Steelers love those love those bloodlines.

986
00:46:23,600 --> 00:46:24,959
Speaker 3: But he has not got an interview yet.

987
00:46:25,000 --> 00:46:29,520
Speaker 2: But he has not gotten an interview. Uh. Will Howard

988
00:46:29,560 --> 00:46:33,520
Speaker 2: Era tweets us it says hire Shula and sheel Hass

989
00:46:33,800 --> 00:46:36,759
Speaker 2: start Will Howard next year, draft a wide receiver in

990
00:46:36,800 --> 00:46:38,200
Speaker 2: the first round, and we are good.

991
00:46:40,360 --> 00:46:42,160
Speaker 3: I like all of it, except but let's just start

992
00:46:42,160 --> 00:46:43,520
Speaker 3: Will Howard and see how it goes.

993
00:46:45,080 --> 00:46:47,680
Speaker 2: I don't know if I don't know if we're good

994
00:46:48,040 --> 00:46:50,759
Speaker 2: with that, but we would certainly have a real opportunity

995
00:46:50,800 --> 00:46:55,279
Speaker 2: to evaluate Will Howard. And if you sunk, you'd have

996
00:46:55,320 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 2: a real opportunity to draft your next quarterback.

997
00:46:57,600 --> 00:46:58,759
Speaker 3: Which I totally get that part of it.

998
00:46:58,800 --> 00:46:58,920
Speaker 2: Two.

999
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:01,359
Speaker 3: But you can't just be like, oh, we'll just throw

1000
00:47:01,400 --> 00:47:03,160
Speaker 3: Will Howard is our starting quarter, that's our answer for

1001
00:47:03,360 --> 00:47:05,120
Speaker 3: you know, not.

1002
00:47:05,080 --> 00:47:07,400
Speaker 2: Yet, not yet. Oh guys, we haven't even seen him

1003
00:47:07,400 --> 00:47:09,040
Speaker 2: play a we haven't even seen him play a priest.

1004
00:47:09,160 --> 00:47:10,879
Speaker 3: I think I hate him, but it's like we don't

1005
00:47:10,880 --> 00:47:13,000
Speaker 3: know anything more about him, hardly than when they drafted him.

1006
00:47:13,120 --> 00:47:16,200
Speaker 2: I do not, I do not hate anything about Will Howard,

1007
00:47:16,640 --> 00:47:19,360
Speaker 2: but I am. I am a little. Some of the

1008
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:21,680
Speaker 2: hype train around him is a little too much.

1009
00:47:22,080 --> 00:47:23,000
Speaker 3: It's crazy, right.

1010
00:47:23,040 --> 00:47:25,120
Speaker 2: I understand, it's just social media and we're all on

1011
00:47:25,200 --> 00:47:26,839
Speaker 2: here for a laugh and it's not the real world,

1012
00:47:26,840 --> 00:47:30,520
Speaker 2: but there's a lot of Will Howard Era, Will Howard Season,

1013
00:47:30,680 --> 00:47:35,399
Speaker 2: Will Will Howard Twitter and fan accounts out there.

1014
00:47:35,480 --> 00:47:38,399
Speaker 3: I mean, what's different if I said the day they

1015
00:47:38,480 --> 00:47:41,239
Speaker 3: drafted him in the sixth round, we'll just make him

1016
00:47:41,280 --> 00:47:44,440
Speaker 3: start this year, rookie year. I mean, it's basically what

1017
00:47:44,480 --> 00:47:46,919
Speaker 3: you're doing, you know. I hope he hits guys, don't

1018
00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:49,160
Speaker 3: get me wrong, but I can't wait to watch him.

1019
00:47:49,200 --> 00:47:51,040
Speaker 2: It would be awesome if he hits, Yeah, in a

1020
00:47:51,040 --> 00:47:52,680
Speaker 2: grade of a position, the Steelers would be if he

1021
00:47:52,760 --> 00:47:55,120
Speaker 2: hits he didn't know it was a first round pick

1022
00:47:55,160 --> 00:47:57,840
Speaker 2: on a future quarterback. I mean, you'd be in great situation.

1023
00:47:57,920 --> 00:47:59,160
Speaker 3: He would be the guy you'd at least want to

1024
00:47:59,160 --> 00:47:59,880
Speaker 3: get hit by a bus.

1025
00:48:01,160 --> 00:48:07,800
Speaker 2: Then hadb number one on feast likely to step into traffic.

1026
00:48:08,360 --> 00:48:11,680
Speaker 2: And that's a good callback. John, this thing full circle today.

1027
00:48:12,040 --> 00:48:14,239
Speaker 2: You've said before you're not a stand up comedian, but

1028
00:48:14,280 --> 00:48:16,040
Speaker 2: you watch it and you've got some ideas. That's a

1029
00:48:16,040 --> 00:48:18,600
Speaker 2: good stand up comedian callback joke for you to shut

1030
00:48:18,640 --> 00:48:21,520
Speaker 2: the thing down there. Big. Thanks to Mike the Fabo

1031
00:48:21,640 --> 00:48:25,680
Speaker 2: for joining us. Yeah great, We absolutely will uh Nathan

1032
00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:28,800
Speaker 2: for producing on the radio side TV, mister Tyler V

1033
00:48:28,960 --> 00:48:31,880
Speaker 2: for keeping us handsome on YouTube, for Matt Williamson on

1034
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:34,839
Speaker 2: what Shooler Take care Everybody tomorrow on the show fifth

1035
00:48:34,920 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 2: Year Options and Best of the West. What stadiums around

1036
00:48:39,840 --> 00:48:41,759
Speaker 2: the NFL do it best when it comes to their

1037
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:44,000
Speaker 2: food spreads. Interesting. We'll get into all of that and

1038
00:48:44,080 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 2: more news of the day that'll surely happen here in

1039
00:48:46,880 --> 00:48:48,719
Speaker 2: the next twenty two hours, So we'll talk to you

1040
00:48:48,760 --> 00:48:50,759
Speaker 2: then tomorrow. As always, you know where to find us.

1041
00:48:50,840 --> 00:48:52,279
Speaker 2: It's on your twenty four to seven home of the

1042
00:48:52,320 --> 00:48:55,480
Speaker 2: black and gold Steelers Nation Radio on the Steelers Audio

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