1 00:00:02,040 --> 00:00:04,680 Speaker 1: You're listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast DAM 2 00:00:04,800 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: Paranormal podcast network, where we offer you podcasts of the paranormal, supernatural, 3 00:00:09,960 --> 00:00:13,760 Speaker 1: and the unexplained. Get ready now for Beyond Contact with 4 00:00:13,920 --> 00:00:14,640 Speaker 1: Captain Ron. 5 00:00:21,360 --> 00:00:24,639 Speaker 2: Welcome to our podcast. Please be aware the thoughts and 6 00:00:24,720 --> 00:00:28,680 Speaker 2: opinions expressed by the host are their thoughts and opinions 7 00:00:28,720 --> 00:00:33,920 Speaker 2: only and do not reflect those of iHeartMedia, iHeartRadio, Coast 8 00:00:33,960 --> 00:00:38,400 Speaker 2: to Coast AM, employees of Premiere Networks, or their sponsors 9 00:00:38,400 --> 00:00:41,600 Speaker 2: and associates. We would like to encourage you to do 10 00:00:41,680 --> 00:00:45,280 Speaker 2: your own research and discover the subject matter for yourself. 11 00:00:52,720 --> 00:00:56,200 Speaker 3: Hey everyone, it's Captain Ron and each week on Beyond 12 00:00:56,280 --> 00:01:00,640 Speaker 3: Contact we'll explore the latest news in upology, discuss some 13 00:01:00,680 --> 00:01:04,080 Speaker 3: of the classic cases, and bring you the latest information 14 00:01:04,200 --> 00:01:07,400 Speaker 3: from the newest cases as we talked with the top experts. 15 00:01:09,280 --> 00:01:12,120 Speaker 4: Welcome to Beyond Contact. I am Captain Ron, and today 16 00:01:12,160 --> 00:01:15,640 Speaker 4: we are showcasing part two of our podcast, recorded live 17 00:01:15,720 --> 00:01:17,840 Speaker 4: in front of an audience at this year's Contact in 18 00:01:17,880 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 4: the Desert. It has more UFO updates and happenings at 19 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:24,480 Speaker 4: the Contact in the Desert UFO conference in Indian Wells 20 00:01:24,840 --> 00:01:27,880 Speaker 4: with me and producer Brie. Hey, since we're here live 21 00:01:27,920 --> 00:01:29,760 Speaker 4: at Contact, does anybody up here want to come up 22 00:01:29,800 --> 00:01:31,559 Speaker 4: here and tell us about their experience of contact? 23 00:01:31,560 --> 00:01:34,080 Speaker 5: Come on up here, brother, Yeah, We've had. 24 00:01:35,520 --> 00:01:39,240 Speaker 4: Really interesting year this year, and I'd like to hear 25 00:01:39,280 --> 00:01:41,720 Speaker 4: from anyone else who wants to talk about anybody. 26 00:01:42,600 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 5: Hi, thank you Captain Ron, Thank you Brie. I appreciate 27 00:01:44,800 --> 00:01:47,040 Speaker 5: you allowing me to come up here and so be sure. 28 00:01:48,080 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 5: So what'd you think of the conference? Oh? I thought 29 00:01:50,360 --> 00:01:53,720 Speaker 5: the conference is fantastic. This have you gone before? Yeah? 30 00:01:53,720 --> 00:01:55,200 Speaker 5: This is my six or seventh? 31 00:01:55,440 --> 00:01:55,520 Speaker 4: Oh? 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:55,800 Speaker 5: Wow? 33 00:01:55,880 --> 00:01:59,800 Speaker 6: Okay, yeah, I went a couple of years up in Joshua. 34 00:02:00,480 --> 00:02:02,559 Speaker 6: I think the last two, you know, before they left, 35 00:02:02,640 --> 00:02:06,120 Speaker 6: and then I think I've been to everyone since it's 36 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:09,960 Speaker 6: been here in Indian Wells. Yeah, and I greatly appreciate 37 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:13,280 Speaker 6: you organizing it so we can all be here together. 38 00:02:13,360 --> 00:02:15,000 Speaker 4: What do you feel what progression has been? Have you 39 00:02:15,160 --> 00:02:17,800 Speaker 4: noticed a change or an evolution of the Savender? Is 40 00:02:17,800 --> 00:02:18,799 Speaker 4: its the same? What do you think? 41 00:02:19,000 --> 00:02:20,600 Speaker 5: Oh? Yeah, it's definitely evolved. 42 00:02:20,680 --> 00:02:24,359 Speaker 6: I think that the uh, the quality of the speakers 43 00:02:25,000 --> 00:02:27,560 Speaker 6: uh is improved. 44 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:28,280 Speaker 5: In this in this manner. 45 00:02:28,280 --> 00:02:30,040 Speaker 6: And what I mean by that is because I don't 46 00:02:30,600 --> 00:02:33,760 Speaker 6: want to feel like I'm dissing people here preciously, but 47 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 6: I think, as you both mentioned, there's a lot of 48 00:02:36,760 --> 00:02:41,080 Speaker 6: PhDs here, and I think that the people that the speakers, 49 00:02:42,600 --> 00:02:46,240 Speaker 6: they've devoted a lot of time and effort into their 50 00:02:46,280 --> 00:02:48,919 Speaker 6: craft and they and and also I feel like they've 51 00:02:48,919 --> 00:02:52,320 Speaker 6: done it with a lot of scientific rigor, you know, 52 00:02:52,360 --> 00:02:55,720 Speaker 6: a lot of and they just have the bona fides 53 00:02:55,760 --> 00:02:59,720 Speaker 6: about them is terrific. What was your favorite part of 54 00:02:59,720 --> 00:03:02,720 Speaker 6: this year of that well, in terms of speakers, I 55 00:03:02,760 --> 00:03:07,800 Speaker 6: would say my favorites are Chris Bledsoe, Ross Coltheart and 56 00:03:08,200 --> 00:03:12,200 Speaker 6: Thomas Jane Sure, you know, as far as speakers goes, 57 00:03:13,600 --> 00:03:16,760 Speaker 6: And I of course I love meeting with people. As 58 00:03:16,840 --> 00:03:19,880 Speaker 6: you two are already stated, it's a lot of fun 59 00:03:19,919 --> 00:03:23,359 Speaker 6: to get together with people who have the same or 60 00:03:23,440 --> 00:03:26,519 Speaker 6: similar intellectual curiosity saying concerns. 61 00:03:27,280 --> 00:03:31,240 Speaker 4: Yeah, so intellectual curiosity is a good thing. I think 62 00:03:31,240 --> 00:03:33,000 Speaker 4: that should be on the poster nexture. Maybe that's a 63 00:03:33,080 --> 00:03:37,760 Speaker 4: tagline for next year. Intellectual curiosity is really what this 64 00:03:37,840 --> 00:03:40,520 Speaker 4: event is all about. I mean, we all, you know, 65 00:03:40,560 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 4: we try to keep it right down the middle. And 66 00:03:43,600 --> 00:03:46,560 Speaker 4: what is this thing? What is telepathy? What are these UAPs. 67 00:03:46,560 --> 00:03:48,880 Speaker 4: What are these things these pilots are claiming to see. 68 00:03:49,640 --> 00:03:52,640 Speaker 4: I'm intellectually curious, you know, what could that be? And 69 00:03:53,000 --> 00:03:57,360 Speaker 4: it's interesting to speculate or hear people's accounts write back down. 70 00:03:58,360 --> 00:04:03,760 Speaker 6: Yeah, I was talking to h Dean Alioto and Deane's fantastic, 71 00:04:03,760 --> 00:04:05,040 Speaker 6: by the way, as is his film. 72 00:04:05,040 --> 00:04:06,720 Speaker 5: Did you get a chance to see his films? Yeah? 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,839 Speaker 4: Well he actually Dean Aliotto did two films. Actually they're 74 00:04:09,880 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 4: one hour each and they're The Alien Perspective Part one 75 00:04:13,280 --> 00:04:13,680 Speaker 4: and two. 76 00:04:13,920 --> 00:04:16,520 Speaker 5: What did you think of that? I thought they were terrific. 77 00:04:16,640 --> 00:04:19,560 Speaker 5: I mean, he has a lot of unique insights that 78 00:04:19,600 --> 00:04:23,240 Speaker 5: I felt were important to illustrate in the in both films. 79 00:04:23,240 --> 00:04:24,880 Speaker 5: A lot of PhDs in his film as well. 80 00:04:25,000 --> 00:04:27,480 Speaker 6: Absolutely, Yeah, I love the fact and I told him 81 00:04:27,480 --> 00:04:30,280 Speaker 6: this yesterday. I love the fact that he referenced, uh 82 00:04:30,360 --> 00:04:35,320 Speaker 6: several times the cell phones and how they are influencing society. 83 00:04:35,400 --> 00:04:37,760 Speaker 6: And to me that was actually poignant because I happened 84 00:04:37,760 --> 00:04:40,960 Speaker 6: to be a school teacher and I'm playing hooky today. 85 00:04:41,000 --> 00:04:43,000 Speaker 5: But uh, but. 86 00:04:43,120 --> 00:04:45,280 Speaker 4: All right, which school distrusted where I was supposed to 87 00:04:45,320 --> 00:04:48,039 Speaker 4: be because I think we need to so. 88 00:04:48,839 --> 00:04:52,279 Speaker 6: But but how this affects my students, and I've noticed 89 00:04:52,320 --> 00:04:57,560 Speaker 6: it over the years, and unfortunately it's not not such 90 00:04:58,000 --> 00:04:59,720 Speaker 6: you know, in a great way. There's been a lot 91 00:04:59,760 --> 00:05:03,480 Speaker 6: of downside to it. I can see their attention levels dropping, 92 00:05:03,720 --> 00:05:06,000 Speaker 6: and then their effort level is dropping because you can 93 00:05:06,040 --> 00:05:10,080 Speaker 6: get such powerful information instantaneously. 94 00:05:10,320 --> 00:05:12,080 Speaker 4: You know, it's fascinating. You brought this up. If I 95 00:05:12,080 --> 00:05:14,160 Speaker 4: could interject and say something here. So this morning at 96 00:05:14,200 --> 00:05:17,440 Speaker 4: seven am, Gordon and I had breakfast and I said, 97 00:05:17,480 --> 00:05:19,640 Speaker 4: you know, yes, we did a good job. Yes we 98 00:05:19,760 --> 00:05:22,480 Speaker 4: worked very hard on all these things that made this event. 99 00:05:23,279 --> 00:05:25,680 Speaker 4: It just had a great vibe and feel this year 100 00:05:25,839 --> 00:05:31,320 Speaker 4: that was unique and genuinely better than ever that with 101 00:05:31,560 --> 00:05:36,440 Speaker 4: the camaraderie and the peacefulness. There's two comments that I 102 00:05:36,520 --> 00:05:40,400 Speaker 4: have about the thing that I noticed that I think 103 00:05:40,600 --> 00:05:45,120 Speaker 4: is remarkable. Number One, I think part of the whole 104 00:05:45,720 --> 00:05:49,960 Speaker 4: vibe and fun was the world's a toilet right now. 105 00:05:50,000 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 4: There's there's there's wars, there's political arguments every day everybody 106 00:05:55,720 --> 00:05:58,680 Speaker 4: it feels like in your day to day life, everybody's frustrated, 107 00:05:58,960 --> 00:06:02,359 Speaker 4: everybody's fed up, nobody's arguing, and there's this tension, and 108 00:06:02,400 --> 00:06:05,480 Speaker 4: then you come to this gorgeous resort with the palm freeze, 109 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:07,479 Speaker 4: with the mountains with water. Look at the view we 110 00:06:07,560 --> 00:06:10,839 Speaker 4: have here, for God's sake. There it's gorgeous, it's relaxing, 111 00:06:10,839 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 4: it's warm. We all come together and we kind of 112 00:06:14,320 --> 00:06:16,400 Speaker 4: escaped the real world for five days. So that was 113 00:06:16,440 --> 00:06:21,600 Speaker 4: part one. Part two is I also mentioned that even 114 00:06:21,640 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 4: in my day to day life, just walking down the 115 00:06:23,680 --> 00:06:26,520 Speaker 4: street in La, the five guys hanging on to the 116 00:06:26,560 --> 00:06:28,960 Speaker 4: other dolls standers are looking at their cell phones, not 117 00:06:29,040 --> 00:06:30,960 Speaker 4: looking at not even looking at each other. 118 00:06:31,400 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 5: And I brought someone that was. 119 00:06:33,720 --> 00:06:36,000 Speaker 4: With me up on the stairs and we overlooked the 120 00:06:36,040 --> 00:06:38,800 Speaker 4: lobby and there's literally four or five hundred people in there. 121 00:06:39,240 --> 00:06:42,520 Speaker 4: I said, look, no one has their cell phone out, 122 00:06:42,839 --> 00:06:44,200 Speaker 4: and if you did see your cell phone out, is 123 00:06:44,240 --> 00:06:46,799 Speaker 4: because they want to take pictures together, right, which is fine. 124 00:06:47,480 --> 00:06:50,760 Speaker 4: Nobody is caught up in their social media bullshit, and 125 00:06:50,800 --> 00:06:54,160 Speaker 4: they're not caught up in what happened today, what politics 126 00:06:54,240 --> 00:06:57,800 Speaker 4: and who tweeted what. It almost felt like a throwback 127 00:06:57,880 --> 00:06:59,920 Speaker 4: to twenty years ago. Hey, we can have a kind 128 00:06:59,920 --> 00:07:05,320 Speaker 4: of conversation with human interaction. So I genuinely think that 129 00:07:05,400 --> 00:07:09,760 Speaker 4: the human interaction that we had, we get credit for that, 130 00:07:09,840 --> 00:07:11,920 Speaker 4: but it really is just the fact that people put 131 00:07:11,960 --> 00:07:16,280 Speaker 4: their phones down and we talked together. I really do 132 00:07:16,320 --> 00:07:19,200 Speaker 4: think that was part of it. Yeah, I completely agree. 133 00:07:19,240 --> 00:07:22,520 Speaker 4: I echo all the sentiments you just said. Yeah, it 134 00:07:22,600 --> 00:07:24,000 Speaker 4: is a beautiful place to come to. 135 00:07:24,720 --> 00:07:25,000 Speaker 5: Uh. 136 00:07:25,040 --> 00:07:27,520 Speaker 6: And you know, I could just forget about what's going on, yes, 137 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:31,920 Speaker 6: and really immerse myself in something that I enjoy and love. 138 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:36,120 Speaker 6: And then yes, I saw somebody here that I met 139 00:07:36,160 --> 00:07:38,880 Speaker 6: here last year, and and I knew him, you know, 140 00:07:38,920 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 6: but and then his name happens to me, Michael, and 141 00:07:41,720 --> 00:07:44,920 Speaker 6: he remembered me because I was the person who asked 142 00:07:45,360 --> 00:07:48,680 Speaker 6: Daniel Sheehan to tell us what we knew about the 143 00:07:48,760 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 6: JFKs as. 144 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 4: Oh my god, you're the guy I know someone asked 145 00:07:52,560 --> 00:07:56,320 Speaker 4: that question, and and and and Danny dropped it right. 146 00:07:56,440 --> 00:07:58,520 Speaker 5: He did live here at contact first time ever. That 147 00:07:58,560 --> 00:08:03,800 Speaker 5: was incredible. Yeah, yeah, so yeah, thank you. So yeah. 148 00:08:03,840 --> 00:08:06,080 Speaker 6: So he had remembered me from doing that, and it 149 00:08:06,120 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 6: was good to see him again. And while I was 150 00:08:08,440 --> 00:08:10,880 Speaker 6: standing in line waiting asked a question at one of 151 00:08:10,920 --> 00:08:14,920 Speaker 6: the presentations, another man next to me and his name 152 00:08:15,000 --> 00:08:18,800 Speaker 6: is Joshua from I believe San Diego. He just appreciated 153 00:08:18,840 --> 00:08:21,720 Speaker 6: the fact that he could talk to me, and I 154 00:08:21,800 --> 00:08:23,520 Speaker 6: knew what he and I knew what he where he 155 00:08:23,600 --> 00:08:25,360 Speaker 6: was coming from, and when he you know, and and 156 00:08:25,680 --> 00:08:27,800 Speaker 6: I didn't poop poo what he had to say, unlike 157 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:29,720 Speaker 6: ninety nine other percent of the people. 158 00:08:30,120 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 4: You know, like I deal with everything that briefs as 159 00:08:32,440 --> 00:08:34,440 Speaker 4: to us of these meetings, So I understand exactly what 160 00:08:34,480 --> 00:08:35,199 Speaker 4: you're talking about. 161 00:08:36,600 --> 00:08:39,880 Speaker 5: Yeah, so I do think. Yeah, it was very enjoyable. 162 00:08:40,280 --> 00:08:43,360 Speaker 6: The camaraderie and you can you can pretty much talk 163 00:08:43,440 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 6: to everybody. 164 00:08:44,480 --> 00:08:47,680 Speaker 4: There are three levels to me of this, which is 165 00:08:49,120 --> 00:08:52,800 Speaker 4: contact brings us here because we all have some curiosity 166 00:08:52,840 --> 00:08:57,080 Speaker 4: about potential contact with non human intelligence, whatever that may be. 167 00:08:57,880 --> 00:08:59,800 Speaker 4: The next level of contact is the thing you're talking 168 00:08:59,800 --> 00:09:04,240 Speaker 4: about about here, which is us talking to each other, 169 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,719 Speaker 4: and then the chance to interact with our speakers. Our 170 00:09:07,800 --> 00:09:11,800 Speaker 4: podcasters are filmmakers. What you don't get to do you 171 00:09:11,840 --> 00:09:16,520 Speaker 4: see them on YouTube. It's a different thing. When we 172 00:09:16,520 --> 00:09:18,360 Speaker 4: come back, we're going to be talking more about this 173 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,800 Speaker 4: year's contact in the Desert conference and UFOs as we 174 00:09:21,840 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 4: record our show live in front of an audience. You're 175 00:09:24,600 --> 00:09:27,439 Speaker 4: listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast to 176 00:09:27,520 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 4: Coast am Paranormal podcast Network. We are back on Beyond Contact. 177 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,080 Speaker 4: It's Captain Ron and we're going to pick up where 178 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:02,240 Speaker 4: we left off at the live show from Contacting the 179 00:10:02,280 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 4: Desert twenty twenty five. You know, if I could share 180 00:10:05,400 --> 00:10:09,240 Speaker 4: another anecdote, it's I was in Roswell about ten years 181 00:10:09,280 --> 00:10:11,800 Speaker 4: ago and I met Don Schmidt there, who I think 182 00:10:11,880 --> 00:10:16,959 Speaker 4: is outstanding, and he was recounting to me how he 183 00:10:18,040 --> 00:10:20,200 Speaker 4: I said, what makes you think this is real? 184 00:10:21,080 --> 00:10:21,320 Speaker 5: What? 185 00:10:21,520 --> 00:10:24,800 Speaker 4: Why are you on the hook? He says, Well, you 186 00:10:24,880 --> 00:10:26,920 Speaker 4: read these stories, you hear these things. He says, but 187 00:10:26,960 --> 00:10:30,840 Speaker 4: I'll tell you Ron what moved me from There might 188 00:10:30,880 --> 00:10:31,800 Speaker 4: be something here too. 189 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:34,680 Speaker 5: This is real is the following. 190 00:10:35,240 --> 00:10:38,559 Speaker 4: I interview these guys that are eighty eighty five, eighty 191 00:10:38,640 --> 00:10:43,840 Speaker 4: nine years old, and they were serious guys, and it 192 00:10:43,920 --> 00:10:46,040 Speaker 4: took a long time for them to sit down with Don, 193 00:10:46,240 --> 00:10:48,680 Speaker 4: and he said that I'll sit there and a guy 194 00:10:48,720 --> 00:10:51,559 Speaker 4: will recount the whole story to me. He said, they 195 00:10:51,720 --> 00:10:54,840 Speaker 4: literally break down in tears and fall into my lap. 196 00:10:55,679 --> 00:11:01,440 Speaker 4: And he said that human faced face connection and the 197 00:11:01,480 --> 00:11:02,120 Speaker 4: guy will cry. 198 00:11:02,240 --> 00:11:05,120 Speaker 5: He literally tears up. Several times. Has happened? 199 00:11:05,320 --> 00:11:08,160 Speaker 4: And they said, I haven't spoke about this in fifty 200 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:08,960 Speaker 4: two years. 201 00:11:09,120 --> 00:11:09,440 Speaker 5: Wow. 202 00:11:09,720 --> 00:11:13,800 Speaker 4: And so it's a different thing. Yes, it's fun to 203 00:11:13,840 --> 00:11:16,000 Speaker 4: watch it on YouTube. Yes it's interesting to see it 204 00:11:16,040 --> 00:11:19,880 Speaker 4: on TV, but hearing it even somethingy like Travis Walton, 205 00:11:20,679 --> 00:11:25,439 Speaker 4: I was curious about Travis Walton. Still at arm's length though, 206 00:11:25,960 --> 00:11:29,839 Speaker 4: But when I met Travis Walton and I sat outside, 207 00:11:29,920 --> 00:11:31,760 Speaker 4: had a beer with him, and he was playing guitar, 208 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:36,760 Speaker 4: and we were just bullshitting man to man, and He's like, yeah, 209 00:11:36,800 --> 00:11:40,199 Speaker 4: this really happened to me. Then I felt like this 210 00:11:40,240 --> 00:11:43,320 Speaker 4: really happened to him. I watched his YouTube video and thought, yeah, 211 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:45,960 Speaker 4: maybe it happened to him, But sitting next to him, 212 00:11:46,280 --> 00:11:49,280 Speaker 4: man to man, it's a different thing, you know what 213 00:11:49,360 --> 00:11:49,800 Speaker 4: I'm saying. 214 00:11:49,920 --> 00:11:51,640 Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, definitely. 215 00:11:51,679 --> 00:11:55,640 Speaker 6: I think when you meet people face to face and then, 216 00:11:55,960 --> 00:11:58,319 Speaker 6: as you said both of you said earlier, you give 217 00:11:58,360 --> 00:12:04,040 Speaker 6: them the space to express themselves. I think that they 218 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:07,559 Speaker 6: want to take that opportunity and do that because they 219 00:12:07,559 --> 00:12:11,880 Speaker 6: have encountered something that is incredibly unique and incredibly profound, 220 00:12:12,520 --> 00:12:14,760 Speaker 6: and I think they do want to share it, and 221 00:12:14,800 --> 00:12:16,640 Speaker 6: so it is important, you know, this can be a 222 00:12:16,679 --> 00:12:19,440 Speaker 6: place where you know, people do that. And I when 223 00:12:19,440 --> 00:12:23,400 Speaker 6: I was listening to Robert Salis's talk, that's one of 224 00:12:23,400 --> 00:12:28,520 Speaker 6: our nuclear witnesses. Yeah, he said it. He held on 225 00:12:28,600 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 6: to what he witnessed for twenty five years before he 226 00:12:31,080 --> 00:12:33,800 Speaker 6: told his wife, and I thought to my yeah, and 227 00:12:33,800 --> 00:12:36,200 Speaker 6: I thought to myself, Wow, what a burden to carry. 228 00:12:36,320 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 6: So I can imagine, you know, when you finally got 229 00:12:38,240 --> 00:12:40,640 Speaker 6: to sit down and talk to her, You know what 230 00:12:40,720 --> 00:12:43,160 Speaker 6: a relief that was. And can you imagine emotionally a 231 00:12:43,200 --> 00:12:44,080 Speaker 6: moving experience? 232 00:12:44,120 --> 00:12:47,520 Speaker 5: That was wow? And now he shared it was the world, 233 00:12:47,520 --> 00:12:48,400 Speaker 5: which is wonderful? 234 00:12:48,800 --> 00:12:50,240 Speaker 7: Right twenty five years. 235 00:12:51,280 --> 00:12:53,480 Speaker 4: I'll be honest, that's not uncommon. I've heard that because 236 00:12:53,480 --> 00:12:57,200 Speaker 4: these guys are threatened. Yeah, And I mean just the 237 00:12:57,200 --> 00:13:00,640 Speaker 4: fact that so many people claim to have been threatened. 238 00:13:02,559 --> 00:13:04,760 Speaker 5: Why are they threatening him if there's nothing to hide? 239 00:13:05,760 --> 00:13:07,800 Speaker 4: You know that it's just a whole You don't drive 240 00:13:07,840 --> 00:13:09,720 Speaker 4: down the four or five freeway in a white bronco 241 00:13:09,720 --> 00:13:12,760 Speaker 4: if you didn't do anything wrong, You just don't do that. 242 00:13:12,960 --> 00:13:17,400 Speaker 4: So you know, it's these anecdotal things to me that 243 00:13:18,440 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 4: paint this mosaic of just logically, there's something here, don't 244 00:13:23,400 --> 00:13:26,200 Speaker 4: know what it is, but somebody's hiding something. Because there's 245 00:13:26,240 --> 00:13:31,720 Speaker 4: so many first person accounts of I was threatened, I 246 00:13:31,880 --> 00:13:34,040 Speaker 4: was told this, They were to kill my daughter. Blah 247 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:37,160 Speaker 4: blah blah blah. Why are all these guys claiming that 248 00:13:37,160 --> 00:13:39,839 Speaker 4: that's what happened to him? And Robert Salas is not 249 00:13:39,920 --> 00:13:42,800 Speaker 4: a bullshit kind of guy. He's a military guy that 250 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:45,880 Speaker 4: and these aren't guys that are dumb. These aren't guys 251 00:13:45,880 --> 00:13:49,040 Speaker 4: that get to work at a nuclear base when when 252 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:50,160 Speaker 4: nuclears were new. 253 00:13:50,559 --> 00:13:53,040 Speaker 5: Yes, so these are the top people. 254 00:13:53,600 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 4: And him keeping that to himself for twenty five years, 255 00:13:56,840 --> 00:14:00,360 Speaker 4: not even his wife knowing about it. Not that I 256 00:14:00,440 --> 00:14:06,120 Speaker 4: encourage people sharing everything with their wives. Sorry, can't. I 257 00:14:06,120 --> 00:14:10,600 Speaker 4: can't even help myself. And you know, I think it's 258 00:14:10,720 --> 00:14:16,160 Speaker 4: very important that that we recognize the amount of people 259 00:14:16,200 --> 00:14:19,239 Speaker 4: that are doing this. And that's another piece of compelling 260 00:14:20,200 --> 00:14:22,760 Speaker 4: anecdotal evidence to me that there's something there. 261 00:14:23,280 --> 00:14:24,920 Speaker 7: Yeah, just keeping a secret. 262 00:14:25,640 --> 00:14:26,360 Speaker 5: Yeah, I agree. 263 00:14:27,120 --> 00:14:30,720 Speaker 6: I do believe that they're Like you said earlier, there's 264 00:14:30,760 --> 00:14:34,000 Speaker 6: a you call it a preponderance of evidence. Sometimes I 265 00:14:34,120 --> 00:14:38,200 Speaker 6: use the phrase overwhelming circumstantial evidence, but it means the 266 00:14:38,200 --> 00:14:42,200 Speaker 6: same thing. You know, there's there, has been, and continues 267 00:14:42,240 --> 00:14:44,680 Speaker 6: to be something extraordinary going on. And for me, it's 268 00:14:44,720 --> 00:14:47,520 Speaker 6: not a matter of believing it's me. It's a matter 269 00:14:47,560 --> 00:14:50,440 Speaker 6: of accepting the reality of what is I get asked 270 00:14:50,480 --> 00:14:52,720 Speaker 6: this question even by my wife, you know, about believing. 271 00:14:52,720 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 5: It's not about belief. For me. 272 00:14:54,600 --> 00:14:57,520 Speaker 6: I'm certain that there's something going on. 273 00:14:58,000 --> 00:15:00,040 Speaker 4: Yes, we don't know what it is, and those the 274 00:15:00,280 --> 00:15:03,040 Speaker 4: people that I believe in that I'm personally drawn to 275 00:15:04,080 --> 00:15:08,680 Speaker 4: that there is something. I now feel there is something 276 00:15:08,720 --> 00:15:11,600 Speaker 4: else going on. I just have no idea what it is. 277 00:15:11,720 --> 00:15:16,680 Speaker 4: I'm I'm less interested in the folks who know correct, 278 00:15:17,640 --> 00:15:21,240 Speaker 4: this is an audio only show, but it's quotation marks 279 00:15:21,560 --> 00:15:22,320 Speaker 4: know what it is. 280 00:15:22,720 --> 00:15:26,440 Speaker 5: I don't know that. It's hard for me to believe 281 00:15:26,440 --> 00:15:27,120 Speaker 5: that we know what it is. 282 00:15:27,200 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 4: Well, the federation from Octurian and Palladian and this, and 283 00:15:29,960 --> 00:15:34,280 Speaker 4: that they have it all dialed in. That's that's that's 284 00:15:34,280 --> 00:15:37,240 Speaker 4: a bridge too far for me. But I will certainly 285 00:15:37,280 --> 00:15:40,680 Speaker 4: go to there is more to our world. That's that's 286 00:15:40,720 --> 00:15:44,640 Speaker 4: that's that's either hidden by the government, hidden by things that, uh, 287 00:15:44,760 --> 00:15:47,480 Speaker 4: we don't know about. There's three D Newtonian physics, and 288 00:15:47,480 --> 00:15:49,280 Speaker 4: that's one level, but then there's these other things. So 289 00:15:49,320 --> 00:15:52,840 Speaker 4: look how we make these new discoveries in physics. Mainstream 290 00:15:53,360 --> 00:15:58,440 Speaker 4: front running science is just as insane. They say there's 291 00:15:58,600 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 4: twelve dimensions of space and one of time. I can't 292 00:16:01,640 --> 00:16:04,920 Speaker 4: get my brain around that. They say that time travel 293 00:16:05,080 --> 00:16:09,200 Speaker 4: is theoretically possible. I cannot get my brain around believing that. 294 00:16:09,760 --> 00:16:13,760 Speaker 4: I mean, all of these things are equally hard to grip. 295 00:16:13,880 --> 00:16:15,840 Speaker 4: So I don't know what the answers are, but I 296 00:16:15,920 --> 00:16:19,960 Speaker 4: do know that there's more. Yeah, I think that's important. 297 00:16:21,040 --> 00:16:24,760 Speaker 6: This conference illustrates that the reality in which we live 298 00:16:24,800 --> 00:16:27,480 Speaker 6: in it's much wider and much deeper than what we 299 00:16:27,600 --> 00:16:28,080 Speaker 6: thought it was. 300 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:29,760 Speaker 4: Would you look at be in charge of our marketing 301 00:16:29,800 --> 00:16:33,240 Speaker 4: next year? Because that was well put too well, thank you? 302 00:16:33,920 --> 00:16:36,360 Speaker 4: That is that's right, that's spot on. This conference is 303 00:16:36,840 --> 00:16:39,920 Speaker 4: showing that that there's more to our reality and our 304 00:16:41,240 --> 00:16:46,960 Speaker 4: many people's paradigms could be off our most likely off. 305 00:16:46,960 --> 00:16:50,120 Speaker 4: There's probably more to our existence and our understanding of 306 00:16:50,200 --> 00:16:52,160 Speaker 4: reality as we know it. 307 00:16:52,880 --> 00:16:55,920 Speaker 5: I don't know what it is again, and I. 308 00:16:55,840 --> 00:16:57,920 Speaker 4: Don't know what's influencing it, but it's sure is fun 309 00:16:58,000 --> 00:17:00,840 Speaker 4: to discuss it and get other people's viewpoints on what 310 00:17:01,000 --> 00:17:04,200 Speaker 4: they think it might be, and maybe we can all 311 00:17:04,200 --> 00:17:07,200 Speaker 4: move it a little further down the road of understanding 312 00:17:07,640 --> 00:17:09,560 Speaker 4: what our world is made up of. Look at how 313 00:17:09,560 --> 00:17:12,359 Speaker 4: it's changed in the last thousand years, how what people 314 00:17:12,480 --> 00:17:13,560 Speaker 4: thought of the world. 315 00:17:14,240 --> 00:17:16,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, there has been a lot of change, for sure, 316 00:17:16,840 --> 00:17:19,960 Speaker 6: And I do think it's important that people do come 317 00:17:20,000 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 6: together who have insights and unique experiences and they share 318 00:17:24,040 --> 00:17:26,000 Speaker 6: them with each other, because that is how you come 319 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 6: to know that there is a wider, deeper reality. 320 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,679 Speaker 7: I mean, yeah, I wanted to ask you, Jim, can. 321 00:17:31,560 --> 00:17:33,080 Speaker 5: I see something? We're here to follow on that and 322 00:17:33,080 --> 00:17:33,679 Speaker 5: then I'll let you in there. 323 00:17:33,720 --> 00:17:36,280 Speaker 4: Sweetearn. I'm so sorry. I feel like it's just like 324 00:17:36,440 --> 00:17:38,239 Speaker 4: this is going on. This has probably been going on 325 00:17:38,359 --> 00:17:42,000 Speaker 4: since the dawn of civilization. There was probably a time 326 00:17:42,040 --> 00:17:44,919 Speaker 4: where people went to not necessarily a conference, but they. 327 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 5: Gathered and. 328 00:17:47,960 --> 00:17:51,960 Speaker 4: Mainstream said that the world's flat, and someone said, well, no, no, 329 00:17:52,240 --> 00:17:55,640 Speaker 4: it's probably round, and there was probably debate, and then 330 00:17:55,680 --> 00:17:57,879 Speaker 4: over time and then we all agreed that, oh, the 331 00:17:57,920 --> 00:17:59,959 Speaker 4: world is round. And now we have a new understand 332 00:18:00,119 --> 00:18:02,479 Speaker 4: that's our new PARADEX. Now we go from there and 333 00:18:02,520 --> 00:18:04,480 Speaker 4: this is how far away it is then and it 334 00:18:04,600 --> 00:18:07,639 Speaker 4: just kind of evolves and now here we are twenty 335 00:18:07,680 --> 00:18:08,280 Speaker 4: twenty five. 336 00:18:09,000 --> 00:18:10,000 Speaker 5: What else is out there? 337 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,920 Speaker 7: We evolves, but there are still slat urswers out there, 338 00:18:13,720 --> 00:18:16,560 Speaker 7: which is crazy. We're known as globbeads. 339 00:18:17,240 --> 00:18:17,960 Speaker 5: Globbeds. 340 00:18:18,000 --> 00:18:20,600 Speaker 7: They cause globpet The. 341 00:18:20,600 --> 00:18:23,080 Speaker 5: Other ninety nine point ninety percent in the world are globeds. 342 00:18:24,240 --> 00:18:26,080 Speaker 4: When we come back, we're going to talk more about 343 00:18:26,080 --> 00:18:28,399 Speaker 4: Contact in the Desert as we do our show live 344 00:18:28,440 --> 00:18:30,640 Speaker 4: in front of an audience at Contact in the Desert 345 00:18:30,640 --> 00:18:33,679 Speaker 4: twenty twenty five. You're listening to Beyond Contact on the 346 00:18:33,680 --> 00:18:59,480 Speaker 4: iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast AM Paranormal podcast network. We 347 00:18:59,520 --> 00:19:02,240 Speaker 4: are back Beyond Contact. It's Captain Ron and today I'm 348 00:19:02,240 --> 00:19:04,560 Speaker 4: with producer Brie and we're going to pick up right 349 00:19:04,560 --> 00:19:07,000 Speaker 4: where we left off from the live show at Contact 350 00:19:07,000 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 4: in the Desert twenty twenty five. 351 00:19:09,520 --> 00:19:10,960 Speaker 7: Wow, So I wanted to ask you to as you 352 00:19:11,080 --> 00:19:15,000 Speaker 7: mentioned your wife about belief, So is she here with you? 353 00:19:15,160 --> 00:19:16,600 Speaker 7: Is she opening into this topic? 354 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:21,000 Speaker 6: Normally she is here, So, but I've had a lot 355 00:19:21,040 --> 00:19:23,840 Speaker 6: of lot going on in my personal life last month, 356 00:19:23,880 --> 00:19:25,600 Speaker 6: so she said, you know, why don't you just go 357 00:19:25,680 --> 00:19:31,320 Speaker 6: by yourself this time? So I'm here alone. But she 358 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,600 Speaker 6: actually enjoys coming to Contact in the Desert. You know, 359 00:19:34,680 --> 00:19:37,400 Speaker 6: I've taken her to other conferences. This one's her favorite 360 00:19:37,440 --> 00:19:42,480 Speaker 6: by far because of the PhDs. And then people who 361 00:19:42,480 --> 00:19:44,200 Speaker 6: are well grounded in their craft, and. 362 00:19:44,320 --> 00:19:45,960 Speaker 4: You know the way they present in the communic host, 363 00:19:46,440 --> 00:19:48,399 Speaker 4: that's everyone entertained on a constant basis. 364 00:19:48,440 --> 00:19:52,160 Speaker 5: Is that what you're referring to? Okay, good? No, no, no, 365 00:19:52,480 --> 00:19:53,280 Speaker 5: he said no. 366 00:19:54,520 --> 00:20:02,400 Speaker 6: So so I think that yeah, she's yeah, she knows 367 00:20:02,400 --> 00:20:06,399 Speaker 6: there's something going on, and she hasn't dived into it 368 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 6: as deeply as I have, you know, so I still 369 00:20:09,760 --> 00:20:14,920 Speaker 6: think she's probably more at the belief level, but she's 370 00:20:14,960 --> 00:20:18,000 Speaker 6: definitely in a different position than she was, you know 371 00:20:18,040 --> 00:20:19,880 Speaker 6: when she first met me eight and a half years ago, 372 00:20:19,920 --> 00:20:22,439 Speaker 6: and she thought I was, you know, kind of kind 373 00:20:22,480 --> 00:20:23,040 Speaker 6: of crazy. 374 00:20:23,480 --> 00:20:25,560 Speaker 7: It's so funny. I feel like that's in a lot 375 00:20:25,560 --> 00:20:30,000 Speaker 7: of relationships, even with my husband and I, and there's 376 00:20:30,040 --> 00:20:33,639 Speaker 7: always you know, one maybe that introduces to the other person. 377 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 7: And to me, it almost feels like it's purposeful, like 378 00:20:40,960 --> 00:20:44,239 Speaker 7: you had to be together in that sense because just 379 00:20:44,359 --> 00:20:49,359 Speaker 7: your openness spiked her curiosity and that's all it really needs, 380 00:20:49,440 --> 00:20:52,359 Speaker 7: just a little foot in the door. And I'm sure 381 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:54,959 Speaker 7: she also talks about this, you know, with friends. It 382 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:59,359 Speaker 7: goes around, so she has that experience herself. Also. I 383 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,439 Speaker 7: think that's really special. Where did you go Where did 384 00:21:01,440 --> 00:21:01,920 Speaker 7: you come from? 385 00:21:02,200 --> 00:21:04,439 Speaker 6: Uh, well, I live in Temecula and I'm a school 386 00:21:04,440 --> 00:21:05,360 Speaker 6: teacher in Marietta. 387 00:21:05,560 --> 00:21:06,200 Speaker 7: What do you teach? 388 00:21:07,760 --> 00:21:09,640 Speaker 5: I teach middle school students math? 389 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,520 Speaker 7: Nice? Okay, thank you yeah, thank you for being here, yea, 390 00:21:14,920 --> 00:21:18,120 Speaker 7: and for being opened. And I love that you've been 391 00:21:18,280 --> 00:21:21,560 Speaker 7: with contact for so long. People were they're also in 392 00:21:21,680 --> 00:21:24,560 Speaker 7: Joshua Tree and and it's it's nice to be in 393 00:21:24,600 --> 00:21:27,160 Speaker 7: an air conditioner and not have to bring your own chair, 394 00:21:27,280 --> 00:21:29,920 Speaker 7: you know, out there. Yes, yes, So it's been quite 395 00:21:29,920 --> 00:21:33,919 Speaker 7: an evolution, and it's really special when people are still 396 00:21:33,960 --> 00:21:37,480 Speaker 7: here that have gone through that evolution. As a conference. 397 00:21:37,840 --> 00:21:40,800 Speaker 7: It's not just because you know, we work here. This 398 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:44,520 Speaker 7: is it's purposeful to us. And I feel like it's 399 00:21:44,760 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 7: it's a symbiotic relationship between the people that come the 400 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 7: people who organize it, and it just feels like a 401 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,560 Speaker 7: giant family that just continues to grow. So thank you 402 00:21:55,600 --> 00:21:56,919 Speaker 7: for coming and being a part of it. 403 00:21:57,080 --> 00:21:57,800 Speaker 5: Yeah, you're welcome. 404 00:21:57,800 --> 00:21:57,840 Speaker 3: Me. 405 00:21:58,080 --> 00:22:01,280 Speaker 6: I get that sense. And I think it's arts with Ron. 406 00:22:01,440 --> 00:22:04,639 Speaker 6: You know, he's always been very approachable. You know, I 407 00:22:04,720 --> 00:22:06,280 Speaker 6: can just walk right up to him and say hi, 408 00:22:06,280 --> 00:22:09,280 Speaker 6: I ask him questions, Yeah, compliment him on the choice 409 00:22:09,280 --> 00:22:12,159 Speaker 6: of classic rock that gets played between the reason I 410 00:22:12,160 --> 00:22:13,000 Speaker 6: actually heard that. 411 00:22:13,160 --> 00:22:17,720 Speaker 4: I've actually had this shockingly and this isn't about me, 412 00:22:17,840 --> 00:22:21,199 Speaker 4: but I just just as an anecdote. Again, Several people 413 00:22:21,440 --> 00:22:24,399 Speaker 4: even today, like a dozen people have said to me, 414 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:27,160 Speaker 4: you know, you set the. 415 00:22:27,160 --> 00:22:28,200 Speaker 5: Tone for this thing. 416 00:22:28,440 --> 00:22:33,440 Speaker 4: You're calm, you're open minded and like you said, approachable 417 00:22:33,440 --> 00:22:35,600 Speaker 4: and friendly or whatever. And he said, it feels like 418 00:22:35,680 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 4: that just trickles down because then there's Bree and she's 419 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,200 Speaker 4: there and she's doing the same thing, and then your 420 00:22:41,240 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 4: staff is all really nice and they're all really helpful, 421 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,080 Speaker 4: and then the volunteers are great, they seem really enthused. 422 00:22:48,480 --> 00:22:52,760 Speaker 4: It's like we all have this shared care about this event. 423 00:22:53,440 --> 00:22:57,160 Speaker 4: It's it's way more than job or whatever for any 424 00:22:57,200 --> 00:22:59,480 Speaker 4: of us. It's all just a thing that we like 425 00:22:59,600 --> 00:23:02,480 Speaker 4: and and want to be part of. And it trickles 426 00:23:02,520 --> 00:23:06,720 Speaker 4: down and it's just that mood, that vibe just goes 427 00:23:06,840 --> 00:23:09,639 Speaker 4: all the way down and throughout, and then it feeds 428 00:23:09,680 --> 00:23:13,240 Speaker 4: upon itself. You know, I said to Gordon this morning 429 00:23:13,280 --> 00:23:17,919 Speaker 4: at breakfast, I says, you know, we've purposely kind of 430 00:23:17,960 --> 00:23:20,359 Speaker 4: moved towards people that have a positive attitude about this 431 00:23:20,480 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 4: or want to work with us and like our event. 432 00:23:24,560 --> 00:23:26,879 Speaker 4: So when you do that, if there's nine of us 433 00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:29,080 Speaker 4: at a table and some of them are going, oh 434 00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:30,800 Speaker 4: my god, this is the greatest thing ever. 435 00:23:30,960 --> 00:23:33,639 Speaker 5: Isn't this great? As Jeff Maynard says, isn't this great? 436 00:23:34,800 --> 00:23:38,480 Speaker 4: The other two go, yeah, this is great, as opposed 437 00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,960 Speaker 4: to somebody going, well, this sucks that it's too hot. 438 00:23:41,000 --> 00:23:42,600 Speaker 4: I got to walk all the way over there, and 439 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,400 Speaker 4: then that kind of that that's like a little cancer 440 00:23:45,480 --> 00:23:49,400 Speaker 4: that blows up and that's not even here. I mean, 441 00:23:50,040 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 4: it's it's uncanny how we haven't had much zero we've 442 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:58,200 Speaker 4: actually had negative response. I told Breathe the first time 443 00:23:58,240 --> 00:24:01,960 Speaker 4: we did this, we didn't really know what we're doing yet. 444 00:24:02,280 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 5: So I text her twenty two times nine one one. 445 00:24:06,400 --> 00:24:07,960 Speaker 7: Everything was a nine one one. 446 00:24:08,640 --> 00:24:11,400 Speaker 4: I may have over exaggerated some of those nine one ones. 447 00:24:11,400 --> 00:24:13,919 Speaker 4: They should have been just sort of a But I 448 00:24:14,000 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 4: did text her this year zero no. 449 00:24:16,480 --> 00:24:19,439 Speaker 5: Nine one ones, no nine one ones. No, No, it. 450 00:24:19,640 --> 00:24:21,240 Speaker 7: Was the fire alarm that went off. 451 00:24:22,000 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 4: So even us as a staff, because they're all back. 452 00:24:26,400 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 4: Everybody that he looked to the first year for us 453 00:24:28,760 --> 00:24:32,360 Speaker 4: has all returned. So we've evolved in putting this on. 454 00:24:32,560 --> 00:24:35,720 Speaker 4: We know what we're doing. We are friends with a 455 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:38,240 Speaker 4: lot of the attendees because we've seen them three years 456 00:24:38,240 --> 00:24:41,080 Speaker 4: in a row now, and you get to know people 457 00:24:41,200 --> 00:24:44,880 Speaker 4: or the interact with us, and they know speakers, and 458 00:24:45,200 --> 00:24:48,720 Speaker 4: this whole thing is just built genuinely into a community, 459 00:24:48,760 --> 00:24:49,720 Speaker 4: which is wonderful. 460 00:24:50,560 --> 00:24:53,200 Speaker 5: Yeah. I think that's kind of the point, isn't it. 461 00:24:53,320 --> 00:24:55,800 Speaker 6: Yeah, in a in a way, yeah, and I'm glad 462 00:24:55,840 --> 00:24:58,720 Speaker 6: you set the tone, you know, for being I was 463 00:24:58,760 --> 00:25:01,639 Speaker 6: actually thinking about that. Yes, it's like looking at your 464 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:04,360 Speaker 6: going Yeah, you're always so calm and happy, at least 465 00:25:04,359 --> 00:25:05,240 Speaker 6: outwardly anyway. 466 00:25:05,600 --> 00:25:09,440 Speaker 5: Well, I was the first year or two. 467 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,520 Speaker 4: Behind the scenes, it wasn't that way. I may have 468 00:25:12,560 --> 00:25:14,159 Speaker 4: tried to look like that out there, but I ran 469 00:25:14,200 --> 00:25:14,800 Speaker 4: in the back room. 470 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:15,600 Speaker 5: I was like, oh my god. 471 00:25:16,359 --> 00:25:21,600 Speaker 4: But this year, there was zero moments of stress or 472 00:25:22,000 --> 00:25:27,040 Speaker 4: any elevated anything. It was just calm, fun. Something happens, 473 00:25:27,320 --> 00:25:30,400 Speaker 4: we'll all deal with it, and it feels like we're 474 00:25:30,440 --> 00:25:33,400 Speaker 4: all friends here. Hey, Josh Gates got sick, you couldn't come. 475 00:25:33,920 --> 00:25:36,840 Speaker 4: We'll do something else and everybody will just roll with it. 476 00:25:37,080 --> 00:25:40,080 Speaker 4: We did have one tiny moment in the middle of 477 00:25:40,160 --> 00:25:43,320 Speaker 4: this whole thing, when the little autistic girl was trying 478 00:25:43,320 --> 00:25:46,919 Speaker 4: to do her demonstration and an alarm went off, a 479 00:25:47,080 --> 00:25:48,640 Speaker 4: fire alarm. 480 00:25:48,160 --> 00:25:51,680 Speaker 5: Really loud. We all had to evacuate. What the heck. 481 00:25:51,760 --> 00:25:56,800 Speaker 4: So that was a moment of stress, but four minutes 482 00:25:56,880 --> 00:25:57,560 Speaker 4: later it was over. 483 00:25:57,680 --> 00:25:59,320 Speaker 5: We all went back and then, yeah. 484 00:25:59,160 --> 00:26:02,040 Speaker 7: You can't control that. Also, I think it's different when 485 00:26:02,080 --> 00:26:06,240 Speaker 7: you're in the production because you plan every little thing 486 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,800 Speaker 7: every single day of the year. This is all you 487 00:26:08,880 --> 00:26:11,399 Speaker 7: focus on. As in a tunney, I don't think you 488 00:26:11,520 --> 00:26:15,639 Speaker 7: see when things aren't as you've expected it, so, of course. 489 00:26:15,400 --> 00:26:18,479 Speaker 5: And that goes to breathe, not us. 490 00:26:18,640 --> 00:26:20,800 Speaker 4: It is a little bit us, but it's mostly breed 491 00:26:20,840 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 4: because she's in charge of all of that, and we've 492 00:26:23,560 --> 00:26:27,120 Speaker 4: had two years now to iron out all these things 493 00:26:27,119 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 4: that could go wrong and prepare for all of that. 494 00:26:29,480 --> 00:26:32,719 Speaker 4: So well, we've were kind of ready for them. So 495 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:35,480 Speaker 4: things that do bubble up instantly get put right back out. 496 00:26:35,600 --> 00:26:38,960 Speaker 6: So maybe it's like anything else. When you put in 497 00:26:39,000 --> 00:26:40,440 Speaker 6: your ten thousand hours. 498 00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:42,719 Speaker 4: That's exactly what it is. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. 499 00:26:43,119 --> 00:26:49,240 Speaker 4: And I feel like we've got there the events only 500 00:26:49,280 --> 00:26:51,480 Speaker 4: five days, but we do put ten thousand hours in 501 00:26:51,560 --> 00:26:54,920 Speaker 4: during the year, and that counts, so you know, we 502 00:26:54,960 --> 00:26:58,080 Speaker 4: are part of this too. I feel like we're atten 503 00:26:58,119 --> 00:27:00,119 Speaker 4: D's when we're here. We feel the same way I 504 00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 4: did when I first came to Contact. I genuinely feel 505 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:06,960 Speaker 4: sad that I can't attend. We're too busy because it 506 00:27:07,320 --> 00:27:10,439 Speaker 4: is great and we want to be part of it. 507 00:27:11,040 --> 00:27:11,680 Speaker 5: Yeah. 508 00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:16,120 Speaker 6: I like it when I see presenters going to other 509 00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 6: presenters lectures. I love that they do it a lot. 510 00:27:19,800 --> 00:27:21,159 Speaker 5: Yeah, they do. I noticed that. 511 00:27:21,240 --> 00:27:24,359 Speaker 4: You know what else I love is when presenters just 512 00:27:24,440 --> 00:27:27,160 Speaker 4: come here. They're like, oh, yeah, I didn't know Bloodshell 513 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:29,440 Speaker 4: was speaking. Oh no, he's not. He just came. 514 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:32,280 Speaker 5: Yeah, you know, people just show up. 515 00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:33,560 Speaker 7: People to show up. 516 00:27:33,640 --> 00:27:35,520 Speaker 4: That's how much they like it. We didn't even have 517 00:27:35,600 --> 00:27:38,520 Speaker 4: him as a speaker, but they come. That's wonderful. I 518 00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:40,240 Speaker 4: mean it really again, it's just like this is like 519 00:27:40,280 --> 00:27:42,640 Speaker 4: almost like a family reunion more than anything. 520 00:27:42,760 --> 00:27:46,159 Speaker 7: Yeah, I agree, I agree. We're definitely part of the family. 521 00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:49,600 Speaker 7: That's really great. I really appreciate you sharing every of course. 522 00:27:49,680 --> 00:27:51,600 Speaker 5: Yeah. Oh, Francis Burns. 523 00:27:51,800 --> 00:27:53,560 Speaker 7: Francis Burns, thank you so much. 524 00:27:53,600 --> 00:27:55,960 Speaker 5: You're welcome. Thank you both. Thanks, Francis, I appreciate the. 525 00:27:56,000 --> 00:28:02,480 Speaker 4: Problems at Francis say beyond contact shirt, So that means 526 00:28:02,480 --> 00:28:05,560 Speaker 4: we have given out exactly one Beyond Contact shirt. 527 00:28:07,560 --> 00:28:09,679 Speaker 5: We tried to give him away the other night and 528 00:28:09,720 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 5: nobody wanted it, so no, I'm only kidding. 529 00:28:13,520 --> 00:28:16,040 Speaker 4: Okay, we need to take our final break here as 530 00:28:16,080 --> 00:28:19,520 Speaker 4: we head into the last segment from our live broadcast 531 00:28:19,640 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 4: at the Contact in the Desert twenty twenty five live show. 532 00:28:22,720 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 4: You're listening to Beyond Contact on the iHeartRadio and Coast 533 00:28:25,640 --> 00:28:48,400 Speaker 4: to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 534 00:28:50,440 --> 00:28:51,920 Speaker 5: We are back on Beyond Contact. 535 00:28:51,920 --> 00:28:53,920 Speaker 4: It's Captain Ron and we're going to pick things up 536 00:28:54,240 --> 00:28:56,480 Speaker 4: right where we left off at the live show from 537 00:28:56,480 --> 00:28:58,160 Speaker 4: this year's Contact in the Desert. 538 00:28:58,360 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 5: Okay, Day, what was your favorite part of this years 539 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:00,840 Speaker 5: of app. 540 00:29:00,960 --> 00:29:05,640 Speaker 7: This is so nerdy seeing the led screen that we got. 541 00:29:06,200 --> 00:29:08,680 Speaker 4: Oh my god, what a lay mass answer. Can we 542 00:29:08,800 --> 00:29:09,840 Speaker 4: put that on social media? 543 00:29:09,920 --> 00:29:10,200 Speaker 5: Please? 544 00:29:10,360 --> 00:29:10,560 Speaker 3: Hey? 545 00:29:10,600 --> 00:29:12,400 Speaker 4: What was your favorite part of Contact in the Desert. 546 00:29:12,440 --> 00:29:14,520 Speaker 4: We flew people in from all over the world for this. 547 00:29:14,600 --> 00:29:18,400 Speaker 4: We have the world's top experts, we have podcasters, filmmakers. 548 00:29:18,920 --> 00:29:24,920 Speaker 4: I believe the digital screen had good Clarityay. 549 00:29:22,960 --> 00:29:24,200 Speaker 7: Said, it's kind of nerdy, but. 550 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:25,280 Speaker 5: Kind of nerdy. 551 00:29:25,480 --> 00:29:28,560 Speaker 7: It's the production part of it. I think being in 552 00:29:28,600 --> 00:29:32,400 Speaker 7: the back and seeing Josh Gates come out, seeing his 553 00:29:32,600 --> 00:29:35,080 Speaker 7: He gave us a little trailer for the upcoming season, 554 00:29:35,120 --> 00:29:38,080 Speaker 7: which was really special seeing him up there on his 555 00:29:38,160 --> 00:29:42,320 Speaker 7: presentation in this giant, beautiful LED screen with a moment 556 00:29:42,520 --> 00:29:47,600 Speaker 7: like this is what I've been envisioning all year seeing 557 00:29:47,640 --> 00:29:54,120 Speaker 7: it happen looking beautiful. It's Josh sping Gate, don't care. 558 00:29:54,000 --> 00:29:55,680 Speaker 5: For the language. Number one, number two. 559 00:29:55,960 --> 00:29:58,600 Speaker 4: This was Breeze idea to come up with the LED screen, 560 00:29:58,640 --> 00:30:01,240 Speaker 4: which was great. We always want to make the presentation 561 00:30:01,520 --> 00:30:05,040 Speaker 4: as the best we can make it within reason, and 562 00:30:05,120 --> 00:30:06,720 Speaker 4: we did have to spend more money to get the 563 00:30:06,840 --> 00:30:09,720 Speaker 4: LED screen, but the impact of it I think was 564 00:30:09,760 --> 00:30:13,240 Speaker 4: worth it. And it really did look cool and you 565 00:30:13,280 --> 00:30:15,800 Speaker 4: know when people have their powerpoints or whatever, it looks 566 00:30:15,840 --> 00:30:16,520 Speaker 4: cool on there. 567 00:30:16,720 --> 00:30:19,080 Speaker 7: Yes, and it was. It was also a moment of 568 00:30:19,160 --> 00:30:22,560 Speaker 7: just having him having him there, yeah, just so casually too, 569 00:30:22,960 --> 00:30:26,120 Speaker 7: just to see him make make it out and the 570 00:30:26,160 --> 00:30:29,040 Speaker 7: presentation was great, and it was you know, I get 571 00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,320 Speaker 7: excited when things just start. The moment people walk out 572 00:30:33,360 --> 00:30:36,640 Speaker 7: on stage and just looking at it from afar, that's 573 00:30:36,640 --> 00:30:39,440 Speaker 7: always just a moment where I'm like, oh my gosh, 574 00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:40,400 Speaker 7: here we go. 575 00:30:40,760 --> 00:30:43,200 Speaker 4: Well, it's because it's like almost like a wedding or whatever, 576 00:30:43,240 --> 00:30:46,360 Speaker 4: because we're thinking about that every day all year. 577 00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:48,400 Speaker 7: And that's what I'm like. It's kind of it's kind 578 00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:50,960 Speaker 7: of nerdy of me. It's like I'm a little production nerd. 579 00:30:51,080 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 7: But it's like, one. I love the conference obviously, as 580 00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,560 Speaker 7: you know, since I used to we were both attendees, 581 00:30:56,840 --> 00:30:59,120 Speaker 7: and so then to be a part of making it 582 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:01,920 Speaker 7: and then see it and it just be so awesome 583 00:31:02,000 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 7: and to have great people up on the stage. There's 584 00:31:04,560 --> 00:31:07,120 Speaker 7: a little moments of goosebumps of light. Well, for sure, we 585 00:31:07,160 --> 00:31:07,920 Speaker 7: always talk about it. 586 00:31:08,080 --> 00:31:11,000 Speaker 5: George Norri and George Knapp walk out and they're playing 587 00:31:11,000 --> 00:31:13,760 Speaker 5: the dun dun dun dun dun dut dun dum. 588 00:31:13,320 --> 00:31:16,320 Speaker 4: Coast to coast, am Man. I've been listening to that 589 00:31:16,360 --> 00:31:19,680 Speaker 4: on the radio for twenty five years. No, that music 590 00:31:19,760 --> 00:31:24,120 Speaker 4: is happening in a stage, a live performance. To see 591 00:31:24,120 --> 00:31:27,120 Speaker 4: these two legendary guys, that sort of thing is that's 592 00:31:27,160 --> 00:31:28,840 Speaker 4: an energy that you can't replace. 593 00:31:29,000 --> 00:31:31,760 Speaker 7: Yeah, So that's always my thing. And I know that 594 00:31:32,040 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 7: not everyone relates to getting excited at seeing an LED screen, 595 00:31:35,920 --> 00:31:39,640 Speaker 7: but it's the vibe of it all coming together, seeing 596 00:31:39,680 --> 00:31:43,080 Speaker 7: it look fantastic. It going well, and I know that 597 00:31:43,160 --> 00:31:46,440 Speaker 7: it's a special moment for other people as well, people 598 00:31:46,480 --> 00:31:50,600 Speaker 7: that's never seen maybe George Knapp, maybe George Norri and 599 00:31:50,640 --> 00:31:54,000 Speaker 7: then to see them together, people that have been long, 600 00:31:54,040 --> 00:31:57,360 Speaker 7: long time listeners. There's people in the crowd where that's 601 00:31:57,400 --> 00:32:00,920 Speaker 7: a very important moment for them, and that is also 602 00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:02,080 Speaker 7: really impacted. 603 00:32:02,160 --> 00:32:04,720 Speaker 4: That's the number one thing is that when people come 604 00:32:04,760 --> 00:32:07,760 Speaker 4: up to me, and you know, we work really hard 605 00:32:07,760 --> 00:32:10,880 Speaker 4: on this, there's a lot of people that very very 606 00:32:11,880 --> 00:32:14,960 Speaker 4: selflessly give their opinion of how we should do the event. 607 00:32:15,200 --> 00:32:19,120 Speaker 4: And that's fine, God bless them. That everybody's got their 608 00:32:19,120 --> 00:32:21,720 Speaker 4: own idea and that's fine, and that's great, and there 609 00:32:21,760 --> 00:32:24,560 Speaker 4: are a million different ways to do this. But what 610 00:32:24,840 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 4: brit and I do I tell on a daily basis, 611 00:32:27,560 --> 00:32:29,440 Speaker 4: let's ignore that. Let's keep our head. 612 00:32:29,280 --> 00:32:31,560 Speaker 5: Down and do this with integrity. 613 00:32:31,760 --> 00:32:35,520 Speaker 4: She does listen. So we we want to do the 614 00:32:35,560 --> 00:32:38,479 Speaker 4: show with integrity. We want to do everything about this 615 00:32:38,560 --> 00:32:42,840 Speaker 4: with integrity and genuineness. And we work really hard all 616 00:32:42,920 --> 00:32:46,000 Speaker 4: year and then when we're walking around here and we're 617 00:32:46,040 --> 00:32:49,040 Speaker 4: you know, eighteen hour days, and then someone stops and 618 00:32:48,640 --> 00:32:52,520 Speaker 4: they say, how this is the best weekend of my life. 619 00:32:52,720 --> 00:32:55,200 Speaker 4: This was the most fun I've had in ten years. 620 00:32:55,240 --> 00:32:55,880 Speaker 5: I should know. 621 00:32:57,000 --> 00:33:00,160 Speaker 4: Yeah, it's Jeff said to me the other day that, oh, 622 00:33:00,240 --> 00:33:02,160 Speaker 4: that was a good review. I said, that wasn't a 623 00:33:02,240 --> 00:33:04,880 Speaker 4: good review. That guy said this was the best week 624 00:33:04,920 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 4: of my life. That is overwhelming and genuinely touching to 625 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 4: me and suddenly makes the whole year of work worthwhile. 626 00:33:12,760 --> 00:33:17,640 Speaker 4: That regardless what happens here, this meant something to somebody 627 00:33:17,720 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 4: like that, that it's that impactful. And I remember my 628 00:33:22,000 --> 00:33:25,880 Speaker 4: first time by myself in the desert at contact in 629 00:33:25,920 --> 00:33:28,880 Speaker 4: the desert, when I went, it meant a lot to me. 630 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:32,920 Speaker 5: And so it's really rewarding to hear that. 631 00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:37,120 Speaker 4: And having people have such a profound effect on their life, 632 00:33:37,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 4: it's fantastic. 633 00:33:38,480 --> 00:33:40,520 Speaker 5: And then now they're part of it, you know. 634 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:43,400 Speaker 7: Oh yeah, And I mean just the two of us, 635 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 7: we have those moments where we're like, you know, you're 636 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,520 Speaker 7: just saying yesterday, you're going through you know, kind of 637 00:33:49,560 --> 00:33:53,160 Speaker 7: a shift and really thinking that this is incredibly almost 638 00:33:53,200 --> 00:33:55,280 Speaker 7: like divinely orchestrated for us. 639 00:33:55,560 --> 00:33:58,280 Speaker 4: We do I as you know, I'm very very far 640 00:33:58,360 --> 00:34:02,440 Speaker 4: from wu. I'm very very pragmatic in three D world, 641 00:34:02,480 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 4: and as far as that's concerned. However, it does sometimes 642 00:34:06,240 --> 00:34:10,400 Speaker 4: feel divine intervention, like things will be looking kind of 643 00:34:10,440 --> 00:34:13,680 Speaker 4: bad and then I answer the phone and it's Ross 644 00:34:13,719 --> 00:34:16,400 Speaker 4: Colhart saying, hey man, I'd like to come to your conference. 645 00:34:17,200 --> 00:34:17,600 Speaker 7: Wow. 646 00:34:17,800 --> 00:34:20,600 Speaker 4: So we get these little victories along the way that 647 00:34:20,640 --> 00:34:25,719 Speaker 4: are really exciting. Diane Powell Wow. And then Josh Gates. 648 00:34:25,880 --> 00:34:28,160 Speaker 4: We wanted to get them last year, but he's all 649 00:34:28,160 --> 00:34:30,839 Speaker 4: over the world. We couldn't get them. Wasn't sure could 650 00:34:31,040 --> 00:34:33,920 Speaker 4: get back to us. I'm like, oh, he doesn't like us, 651 00:34:33,920 --> 00:34:35,200 Speaker 4: he doesn't want to get back to us. He's not 652 00:34:35,280 --> 00:34:37,719 Speaker 4: interested in this. And then it turns out they're like 653 00:34:37,880 --> 00:34:41,480 Speaker 4: literally like in Cambodia without any. 654 00:34:41,560 --> 00:34:42,919 Speaker 7: Sorry I was out in the desert show. 655 00:34:42,960 --> 00:34:44,880 Speaker 4: Sorry I was there, but I'd love to come to 656 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:45,920 Speaker 4: contact in the desert. 657 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,320 Speaker 5: What a great little victory. 658 00:34:47,400 --> 00:34:50,920 Speaker 4: So, you know, we get those little joys along the way, 659 00:34:51,120 --> 00:34:54,960 Speaker 4: and we have these great moments and this is you know, 660 00:34:55,400 --> 00:34:58,759 Speaker 4: it's really great. I spend sometimes nine, ten to eleven 661 00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:01,520 Speaker 4: hours a day on a zoom call with Brie. 662 00:35:01,560 --> 00:35:03,480 Speaker 5: If you can believe that, it's pretty crazy. 663 00:35:03,600 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 7: It's really rewarding. And thank you guys for sitting here 664 00:35:05,960 --> 00:35:07,520 Speaker 7: and just listening to us to. 665 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:10,279 Speaker 4: Talk about and enduring my droning on and on and 666 00:35:10,320 --> 00:35:11,319 Speaker 4: on about boring down. 667 00:35:11,360 --> 00:35:16,359 Speaker 7: So it's incredibly rewarding to do this. It is very 668 00:35:16,400 --> 00:35:20,839 Speaker 7: hard work. It is every day. It is long hours, 669 00:35:20,880 --> 00:35:25,040 Speaker 7: and it doesn't feel like it because I think we 670 00:35:25,320 --> 00:35:27,879 Speaker 7: just love it so much. You know. They say, if 671 00:35:27,920 --> 00:35:30,560 Speaker 7: you do what you love, it doesn't feel like work, right, 672 00:35:30,680 --> 00:35:32,839 Speaker 7: And of course there's moments where it's like, oh gosh, 673 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:36,239 Speaker 7: because it's frustrating and stuff, but it's so worth it 674 00:35:36,480 --> 00:35:41,040 Speaker 7: being here right now this week, every day, it's just so. 675 00:35:42,640 --> 00:35:45,400 Speaker 4: At breakfast with Gordon's family this morning at seven am, 676 00:35:45,520 --> 00:35:48,279 Speaker 4: they said to me, are you working like twenty hour 677 00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:51,640 Speaker 4: days while you're here? And I'm like, yes, I've been 678 00:35:51,640 --> 00:35:54,359 Speaker 4: averaging about four hours a week. But it's like I said, look, 679 00:35:54,400 --> 00:35:59,120 Speaker 4: I'm not digging ditches, I'm not hauling weights up to 680 00:35:59,160 --> 00:36:03,000 Speaker 4: the attic. I'm my best friends are here, Brie is here, 681 00:36:03,080 --> 00:36:06,120 Speaker 4: Bree is my partner in crime on this. All of 682 00:36:06,160 --> 00:36:08,160 Speaker 4: these people that I meet from around the world that 683 00:36:08,320 --> 00:36:11,839 Speaker 4: say they love this does not work. This is the 684 00:36:11,840 --> 00:36:15,319 Speaker 4: best week of my life work in twenty two, don't 685 00:36:15,360 --> 00:36:16,920 Speaker 4: I shouldn't say working twenty. 686 00:36:16,640 --> 00:36:17,160 Speaker 5: Hours a week? 687 00:36:17,320 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 7: I was a. It's a little weird. 688 00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:24,400 Speaker 4: It's being awake twenty hours, it's not working twenty hours. 689 00:36:24,440 --> 00:36:27,040 Speaker 4: It's great, it's fun. It's fun to be part of 690 00:36:27,080 --> 00:36:30,239 Speaker 4: this community. It's fun to interact with these speakers. We 691 00:36:30,320 --> 00:36:32,520 Speaker 4: hope that we're making a difference. We hope that we're 692 00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:35,840 Speaker 4: keeping it objective. I'll share one other little thing before 693 00:36:35,840 --> 00:36:38,600 Speaker 4: we wrap up here for the day. Another interesting aspect 694 00:36:38,640 --> 00:36:41,719 Speaker 4: of this. People said that it was cohesive, and. 695 00:36:41,640 --> 00:36:44,160 Speaker 5: That's the tone. Five different people said cohesive. 696 00:36:44,200 --> 00:36:46,759 Speaker 4: I don't think I've ever heard that word, and they said, 697 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:49,839 Speaker 4: that's the tone of this event. With our speakers, they're 698 00:36:49,880 --> 00:36:51,440 Speaker 4: always like, well, what do you want me to talk about. 699 00:36:51,440 --> 00:36:54,359 Speaker 4: I'll get prepared now. We chose you for this year. 700 00:36:54,680 --> 00:36:57,520 Speaker 4: You do anything you want to do. We just ask 701 00:36:57,680 --> 00:37:01,280 Speaker 4: that it's new material. Oh and then they get creative 702 00:37:01,280 --> 00:37:04,239 Speaker 4: and they're like, oh, I'm saving this for Contact, and 703 00:37:04,280 --> 00:37:09,080 Speaker 4: then filmmakers, we're going to save in world premiere at Contact. 704 00:37:09,320 --> 00:37:12,560 Speaker 4: So everybody kind of puts their best foot forward at Contact, 705 00:37:12,920 --> 00:37:15,920 Speaker 4: and we don't keep a heavy hand. This is what 706 00:37:15,920 --> 00:37:17,400 Speaker 4: we're going to do and this is how to do it. 707 00:37:17,719 --> 00:37:20,319 Speaker 4: We let people, you know, express themselves off or they 708 00:37:20,320 --> 00:37:23,920 Speaker 4: want to save your film for Contact, do your podcast 709 00:37:24,320 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 4: whoever you want to interview at podcasts. The podcasters bring 710 00:37:27,520 --> 00:37:30,120 Speaker 4: those people in, they do it live at Contact, and 711 00:37:30,200 --> 00:37:33,160 Speaker 4: the speakers do their own choice of topics of contact 712 00:37:33,360 --> 00:37:35,680 Speaker 4: and that at the end of the day Monday afternoon, 713 00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,160 Speaker 4: that we are now you can look back and go, well, 714 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,080 Speaker 4: that was the tone of this event and that's how 715 00:37:41,120 --> 00:37:45,759 Speaker 4: it came together. It's a genuinely very organic thing that happens. 716 00:37:45,960 --> 00:37:49,440 Speaker 4: There's a lot of individual people putting their heart and 717 00:37:49,520 --> 00:37:53,440 Speaker 4: soul and love into this. The speakers care about their presentation, 718 00:37:53,760 --> 00:37:58,319 Speaker 4: the volunteers care about being part of this, the filmmaker's care, 719 00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:01,880 Speaker 4: the podcasters care, We care, and then at the end 720 00:38:01,920 --> 00:38:03,520 Speaker 4: of the day we have this event and we all 721 00:38:03,560 --> 00:38:06,480 Speaker 4: at the end go wow, that was great fun. Yeah, 722 00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:10,399 Speaker 4: unlike this podcast. Our our conference went wonderful. And thank 723 00:38:10,440 --> 00:38:13,680 Speaker 4: you guys all for coming both to the conference and 724 00:38:13,840 --> 00:38:18,280 Speaker 4: to our podcast. We really really appreciate it, and please listen. 725 00:38:18,480 --> 00:38:21,479 Speaker 4: We're at Beyond Contact where you can get the show 726 00:38:21,480 --> 00:38:24,719 Speaker 4: on Contact intheesert dot com or on Coast to coastam 727 00:38:24,840 --> 00:38:29,240 Speaker 4: dot com. We're part of the iHeartRadio and Paranormal Podcast Network, 728 00:38:29,280 --> 00:38:32,160 Speaker 4: and we really really appreciate you guys sitting this long 729 00:38:32,280 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 4: and listening to us prona on and we appreciate it 730 00:38:34,560 --> 00:38:36,000 Speaker 4: and hopefully we'll see it next year. 731 00:38:36,000 --> 00:38:37,080 Speaker 5: In Contact, thanks for coming. 732 00:38:37,239 --> 00:38:42,040 Speaker 7: Thank you guys. 733 00:38:43,120 --> 00:38:45,560 Speaker 4: Well that does it for our live show from Contact 734 00:38:45,560 --> 00:38:47,439 Speaker 4: in the Desert this year. We had a lot of fun. 735 00:38:47,640 --> 00:38:50,080 Speaker 4: You can find me on Twitter and Instagram at Contact 736 00:38:50,120 --> 00:38:53,320 Speaker 4: in the Desert Underscore Captain Ron. Stay connected by checking 737 00:38:53,320 --> 00:38:56,920 Speaker 4: out Contactindtheesert dot com. Stay open minded and rational as 738 00:38:57,000 --> 00:38:59,920 Speaker 4: we explore the unknown right here on the iHeartRadio and 739 00:39:00,080 --> 00:39:02,640 Speaker 4: Coast to Coast AM Paranormal Podcast Network. 740 00:39:15,719 --> 00:39:18,279 Speaker 1: Thanks for listening to the iHeartRadio and Coast to Coast 741 00:39:18,320 --> 00:39:21,560 Speaker 1: AM Paranormal Podcast Network. Make sure and check out all 742 00:39:21,680 --> 00:39:24,719 Speaker 1: our shows on the iHeartRadio app or by going to 743 00:39:24,760 --> 00:39:31,080 Speaker 1: iHeartRadio dot com.