1 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:09,240 Speaker 1: Welcome in to another episode of the Two Minute Drill Podcast. 2 00:00:09,240 --> 00:00:12,080 Speaker 1: I'm JJ Sakowitz, joined again by Colts dot Com writer 3 00:00:12,160 --> 00:00:15,200 Speaker 1: Amanda Foster, and we're taping this as the twenty twenty 4 00:00:15,280 --> 00:00:19,360 Speaker 1: four preseason comes to an end. The Colts roster is set, 5 00:00:19,520 --> 00:00:22,680 Speaker 1: we've got the practice squad set, and on Thursday, team 6 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: captains were announced. So on today's episode, we're gonna give 7 00:00:26,040 --> 00:00:28,479 Speaker 1: our final impressions of the Colts as we head into 8 00:00:28,480 --> 00:00:31,040 Speaker 1: the Labor Day weekend break and then starting next week, 9 00:00:31,080 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: the first game week of the twenty twenty four season. 10 00:00:33,720 --> 00:00:36,640 Speaker 1: The Two Minute Drill Podcast is presented by Nerd Wallet, 11 00:00:36,680 --> 00:00:40,800 Speaker 1: Play Smart Finance Smarter. Let's go all right, Amanda. We 12 00:00:40,800 --> 00:00:43,159 Speaker 1: broke down the Colts initial fifty three man roster on 13 00:00:43,200 --> 00:00:46,280 Speaker 1: Tuesday's episode of the Official Colts Podcast, and as we're 14 00:00:46,280 --> 00:00:49,400 Speaker 1: taping this on Thursday, there's only been one change, a 15 00:00:49,440 --> 00:00:52,080 Speaker 1: swap of cornerback Samuel Womack. The third came in off 16 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:56,680 Speaker 1: waivers from San Francisco. Darryl Baker Junior was waived. Amanda, 17 00:00:56,720 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: that we heard from Chris Ballard on Wednesday. A lot 18 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: of news, newsworthy stuff coming out of Chris Ballard's media availability. 19 00:01:03,000 --> 00:01:05,399 Speaker 1: What did you say, just like about the coming days 20 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:08,360 Speaker 1: and weeks of roster construction, Like, is this fifty three 21 00:01:08,800 --> 00:01:10,320 Speaker 1: that you can go to Colts dot com and see 22 00:01:10,360 --> 00:01:12,400 Speaker 1: right now? Is that what the fifty three is going 23 00:01:12,400 --> 00:01:13,679 Speaker 1: to be for the whole season? 24 00:01:14,160 --> 00:01:17,240 Speaker 2: Well, that's a good question, and that I think is 25 00:01:17,280 --> 00:01:20,760 Speaker 2: something that everybody's wondering because Chris Ballard talked about he 26 00:01:21,240 --> 00:01:23,720 Speaker 2: had everybody named the first the three running backs in 27 00:01:23,760 --> 00:01:26,640 Speaker 2: the first game of the season last year, and then 28 00:01:26,680 --> 00:01:28,680 Speaker 2: kind of everybody they named the three and then he 29 00:01:28,760 --> 00:01:30,640 Speaker 2: let it sit and he was like, yeah, because they 30 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,600 Speaker 2: weren't the three that they ended the season with. And 31 00:01:32,640 --> 00:01:34,680 Speaker 2: I thought that was one of the biggest points that 32 00:01:35,040 --> 00:01:38,240 Speaker 2: kind of stuck, was that it's very fluid in what 33 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:39,280 Speaker 2: we're going to see this season. 34 00:01:39,319 --> 00:01:40,800 Speaker 1: This is good, by the way. If you're listening to 35 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,559 Speaker 1: this and you're like, oh, what's the answer to that, yeah, 36 00:01:43,640 --> 00:01:44,800 Speaker 1: think about it for a little bit. 37 00:01:44,959 --> 00:01:47,840 Speaker 3: I didn't know, but I mean right like you knew. 38 00:01:47,920 --> 00:01:48,320 Speaker 3: I didn't. 39 00:01:48,360 --> 00:01:51,080 Speaker 1: I I was the guy from the back yelling. 40 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 3: Jake Funk, right, the only one. 41 00:01:53,040 --> 00:01:55,880 Speaker 1: I was the only one who yelled out Jake Funk. Yeah, 42 00:01:55,920 --> 00:01:59,760 Speaker 1: it was Jake Funk. Deon Jackson and Evan Hall last 43 00:01:59,800 --> 00:02:01,760 Speaker 1: year and then the Colts end of the season was 44 00:02:01,840 --> 00:02:05,840 Speaker 1: Zach Moss, Trace Sermon, Jonathan Taylor. So stuff changes, Rosters 45 00:02:05,920 --> 00:02:09,920 Speaker 1: are fluid in the NFL. You're always looking at the 46 00:02:09,960 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: margins trying to get better. You know, we'll see in 47 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,160 Speaker 1: the coming days and weeks if there are any more 48 00:02:16,840 --> 00:02:19,079 Speaker 1: moves that are made. Sometimes, I mean last year the Colts, 49 00:02:19,120 --> 00:02:21,359 Speaker 1: I don't think sign Trace Sermon until after week one. 50 00:02:21,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 3: Yeah, you just. 51 00:02:22,680 --> 00:02:26,320 Speaker 2: Never know who might get hurt, what might happen, what 52 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:28,919 Speaker 2: exactly might not work out the way that you expected 53 00:02:28,919 --> 00:02:32,360 Speaker 2: to work out. So yeah, I think Ballard was He 54 00:02:32,440 --> 00:02:34,520 Speaker 2: made it also very clear that he's very confident in 55 00:02:34,520 --> 00:02:37,680 Speaker 2: the roster that they have now, and he's confident in 56 00:02:38,120 --> 00:02:40,760 Speaker 2: how he believes in the guys and how they believe 57 00:02:40,760 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 2: that they're going to play this season, and was very 58 00:02:43,760 --> 00:02:46,600 Speaker 2: very transparent about that. But he was also he was 59 00:02:46,680 --> 00:02:49,600 Speaker 2: upfront and said that you know, things do change, and 60 00:02:49,639 --> 00:02:53,000 Speaker 2: you can't you can't predict the future, so you kind 61 00:02:53,000 --> 00:02:55,160 Speaker 2: of have to be open to things moving around. 62 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,520 Speaker 1: And I mean this is what we're used to with 63 00:02:57,600 --> 00:02:59,840 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard. I just like reminding people of it every 64 00:02:59,880 --> 00:03:01,440 Speaker 1: year because I always get like, oh, what do you 65 00:03:01,480 --> 00:03:03,079 Speaker 1: think of the fifty three? Like why did this guy 66 00:03:03,120 --> 00:03:04,640 Speaker 1: make it over this guy? And it's sort of like 67 00:03:05,440 --> 00:03:07,600 Speaker 1: both guys might play, Like like look at running back 68 00:03:07,680 --> 00:03:10,120 Speaker 1: right where Tyler Goodson makes the fifty three, but Evan 69 00:03:10,160 --> 00:03:12,959 Speaker 1: Hall is now in the practice squad. Well, both guys 70 00:03:13,000 --> 00:03:15,239 Speaker 1: could play for the Colts this year. Yeah, and there's 71 00:03:15,320 --> 00:03:18,359 Speaker 1: you know, a scenario where something happens all of a sudden, 72 00:03:18,360 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: you have Evan Hall getting called up and getting signed 73 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:21,600 Speaker 1: to the fifty three. 74 00:03:21,639 --> 00:03:21,760 Speaker 2: Like. 75 00:03:22,160 --> 00:03:24,919 Speaker 1: There are a lot of different scenarios here that can 76 00:03:24,919 --> 00:03:28,000 Speaker 1: play out over the course of the season. One thing, though, Amanda, 77 00:03:28,040 --> 00:03:29,519 Speaker 1: that we do know is the Colts are going to 78 00:03:29,639 --> 00:03:31,600 Speaker 1: roll into twenty twenty four with a lot of youth 79 00:03:31,680 --> 00:03:34,760 Speaker 1: at cornerback in safety. Yes, as has been the case 80 00:03:35,040 --> 00:03:38,840 Speaker 1: for months, this is the guys the Colts are rolling 81 00:03:38,840 --> 00:03:42,160 Speaker 1: with Nick Cross at safety. He looks like he is 82 00:03:42,200 --> 00:03:44,720 Speaker 1: in line to start. Jalen Jones, Juju Brent's at corner. 83 00:03:44,920 --> 00:03:47,720 Speaker 1: Obviously you have veterans and Kenny Moore, the second Julian Blackman. 84 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,080 Speaker 1: But this is nothing unexpected. If you've been paying attention 85 00:03:51,200 --> 00:03:55,040 Speaker 1: for the last six months or so, what do you 86 00:03:55,040 --> 00:03:57,160 Speaker 1: what did you just kind of glean about the confidence 87 00:03:57,480 --> 00:04:01,440 Speaker 1: the Colts have and the why are they rolling with 88 00:04:01,520 --> 00:04:05,840 Speaker 1: these guys in Cross Jones and Brent's to start the season. 89 00:04:06,080 --> 00:04:07,120 Speaker 3: I mean, I think, to put. 90 00:04:06,920 --> 00:04:09,440 Speaker 2: It simply, I guess like the reason that they're rolling 91 00:04:09,440 --> 00:04:11,400 Speaker 2: with them is because they have a lot of confidence 92 00:04:11,440 --> 00:04:13,520 Speaker 2: in them and how they're gonna be able to continue 93 00:04:13,520 --> 00:04:16,400 Speaker 2: growing into the players that Ballard and the rest of 94 00:04:16,400 --> 00:04:17,839 Speaker 2: the Colts think that they're gonna be. 95 00:04:18,120 --> 00:04:20,680 Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean the growing part there, Amanda's the big point. 96 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:20,920 Speaker 3: Yeah. 97 00:04:20,960 --> 00:04:23,720 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard said you get better by playing right. 98 00:04:23,800 --> 00:04:25,440 Speaker 2: I have I wrote that down. He said they don't 99 00:04:25,480 --> 00:04:28,400 Speaker 2: become players without playing right. So like, you're right, you 100 00:04:28,440 --> 00:04:29,120 Speaker 2: can't argue with that. 101 00:04:29,360 --> 00:04:32,600 Speaker 1: And I've said this so much like Jalen Jones and 102 00:04:32,640 --> 00:04:35,599 Speaker 1: Juju Brent's what they did last year. There were specific 103 00:04:35,640 --> 00:04:38,960 Speaker 1: things that they did well. There were obviously areas they 104 00:04:39,000 --> 00:04:42,280 Speaker 1: need to improve. But you're not going to figure out 105 00:04:42,279 --> 00:04:46,359 Speaker 1: if you have starters in those guys, like real like 106 00:04:46,640 --> 00:04:49,359 Speaker 1: NFL starters, if you don't play them right. And I 107 00:04:49,400 --> 00:04:51,440 Speaker 1: don't think I think a lot of people just want 108 00:04:51,520 --> 00:04:54,279 Speaker 1: to say, well not, you know, they're not NFL starters. 109 00:04:54,279 --> 00:04:56,599 Speaker 1: So like we should go sign someone or trade for someone, 110 00:04:56,640 --> 00:05:00,240 Speaker 1: but like, I don't, I don't know if anyone out 111 00:05:00,279 --> 00:05:02,719 Speaker 1: there who was available would have been an upgrade based 112 00:05:02,760 --> 00:05:05,440 Speaker 1: on the defense the Colts run. And then you're cutting 113 00:05:05,480 --> 00:05:07,400 Speaker 1: off this path to development for Chriscott. 114 00:05:07,520 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 2: You can't you can't develop people if you don't let 115 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:13,840 Speaker 2: them develop. And at a certain point, like you can't 116 00:05:13,880 --> 00:05:15,880 Speaker 2: just keep signing veterans, because then where you're going to 117 00:05:15,960 --> 00:05:19,599 Speaker 2: be two years down the line, right, And that's it's 118 00:05:19,600 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 2: a long term process. And I think that's where this 119 00:05:22,920 --> 00:05:25,320 Speaker 2: kind of comes into play. And I like this quote 120 00:05:25,320 --> 00:05:27,839 Speaker 2: that Chris Ballard said about Nick Cross is that he 121 00:05:27,880 --> 00:05:29,800 Speaker 2: said it wasn't Nick's fault that we drafted him at 122 00:05:29,839 --> 00:05:32,479 Speaker 2: twenty And then he went on and he said that 123 00:05:32,520 --> 00:05:34,800 Speaker 2: they talked about him, and they built up all these expectations. 124 00:05:34,800 --> 00:05:37,200 Speaker 2: But then you've come to expect things from him, and 125 00:05:37,240 --> 00:05:38,960 Speaker 2: you forget that he was only twenty years old and 126 00:05:39,000 --> 00:05:41,560 Speaker 2: he's still very very young and does have a lot 127 00:05:41,600 --> 00:05:43,279 Speaker 2: of room to grow and things that he has to 128 00:05:43,279 --> 00:05:46,000 Speaker 2: improve on, and they know that and they're expecting that. 129 00:05:46,080 --> 00:05:48,440 Speaker 2: And with that, there's still a reason that they're going 130 00:05:48,520 --> 00:05:51,000 Speaker 2: to have him play as much as he will, and 131 00:05:51,040 --> 00:05:52,960 Speaker 2: so at a certain point you kind of sit and 132 00:05:53,000 --> 00:05:55,520 Speaker 2: you're like, Okay, if you see this, if you're seeing 133 00:05:55,560 --> 00:05:57,840 Speaker 2: this from a guy that you've watched so much film on, 134 00:05:58,080 --> 00:05:59,800 Speaker 2: you see him in practice all the time, that's more 135 00:05:59,800 --> 00:06:02,919 Speaker 2: than any of us from the outside have seen. And 136 00:06:02,960 --> 00:06:04,440 Speaker 2: I feel like there's only so much that you can 137 00:06:04,520 --> 00:06:08,080 Speaker 2: say compared to what guys like Chris Ballard and Shane 138 00:06:08,120 --> 00:06:10,599 Speaker 2: Sichin are seeing and what they know about these guys. 139 00:06:10,800 --> 00:06:15,719 Speaker 1: I mean, look like the Colts, you can't operate as 140 00:06:15,760 --> 00:06:18,160 Speaker 1: a team by just saying like we're gonna wave a 141 00:06:18,200 --> 00:06:21,200 Speaker 1: wand and like sign vets at every position and do 142 00:06:21,240 --> 00:06:23,680 Speaker 1: all that. Like I know people want the Colts to 143 00:06:23,720 --> 00:06:28,640 Speaker 1: do that, But for the long term sustainability of this franchise, 144 00:06:29,120 --> 00:06:31,480 Speaker 1: like zoom out on twenty twenty four for a second, 145 00:06:31,480 --> 00:06:33,800 Speaker 1: for the long term sustainability of what the Colts are building. 146 00:06:34,240 --> 00:06:36,200 Speaker 1: If they get to the end of this year and 147 00:06:36,240 --> 00:06:39,719 Speaker 1: they figure out that we've got real starters in Cross 148 00:06:39,839 --> 00:06:43,680 Speaker 1: Jones and or Brent's, that is a huge win for 149 00:06:43,800 --> 00:06:45,960 Speaker 1: what you can do in twenty twenty five. But if 150 00:06:46,000 --> 00:06:48,240 Speaker 1: you got to the end of this year and it's like, yeah, 151 00:06:48,320 --> 00:06:49,920 Speaker 1: you know, we signed some veteran. He came in for 152 00:06:49,920 --> 00:06:50,799 Speaker 1: a year, he was fine. 153 00:06:51,120 --> 00:06:51,719 Speaker 3: Now he's gone. 154 00:06:51,880 --> 00:06:55,000 Speaker 1: Now he's gone. You go into twenty twenty five with 155 00:06:55,080 --> 00:06:56,920 Speaker 1: the same hole, exact roster exactly. 156 00:06:57,000 --> 00:06:58,920 Speaker 2: Maybe you have a couple of rookies, but they're still 157 00:06:58,960 --> 00:07:01,240 Speaker 2: unproven because their rookie. It's the same situation. 158 00:07:01,560 --> 00:07:03,719 Speaker 1: This way, you figure out if you're gonna have a 159 00:07:03,720 --> 00:07:06,480 Speaker 1: hole in twenty twenty five, but there's a chance you 160 00:07:06,560 --> 00:07:09,080 Speaker 1: might not. Yeah, and I think that's really important. Again, 161 00:07:09,800 --> 00:07:12,120 Speaker 1: Let's just get to the games. Like I'm they. 162 00:07:12,000 --> 00:07:14,080 Speaker 3: Haven't they haven't played yet, the season that's not started. 163 00:07:14,200 --> 00:07:16,480 Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm at this point now where like we've 164 00:07:16,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: talked about it so much that I'm just like, let's 165 00:07:18,200 --> 00:07:20,600 Speaker 1: just get to the games. Give us something different to 166 00:07:20,640 --> 00:07:23,760 Speaker 1: talk about with these guys. Because training can't practices, joint practices, 167 00:07:24,160 --> 00:07:29,480 Speaker 1: preseason games. They're not always like great indicators. They're decent indicators, 168 00:07:29,480 --> 00:07:32,000 Speaker 1: they're not, you know, worthless. But let's just get to 169 00:07:32,040 --> 00:07:33,640 Speaker 1: a game and figure out how these guys look and 170 00:07:33,640 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: how they can play, and then see how they grow 171 00:07:35,680 --> 00:07:36,480 Speaker 1: throughout the season. 172 00:07:36,880 --> 00:07:38,920 Speaker 3: And then like you said, they're like we were saying, 173 00:07:39,320 --> 00:07:40,280 Speaker 3: adjust from there. 174 00:07:40,360 --> 00:07:43,760 Speaker 1: Exactly, adjust from there. Speaking of Juju Brent's Amanda, he 175 00:07:44,280 --> 00:07:47,520 Speaker 1: told us on Thursday, so he broke his nose and 176 00:07:47,560 --> 00:07:50,600 Speaker 1: he had to have a little procedure. It sounded like 177 00:07:50,600 --> 00:07:54,680 Speaker 1: it was a total freak accident. I mean, you know those. 178 00:07:54,600 --> 00:07:57,200 Speaker 3: Kind of things I feel like usually, yeah. 179 00:07:56,840 --> 00:07:58,920 Speaker 1: Like a broken nose in a football game. 180 00:07:59,240 --> 00:08:02,120 Speaker 2: My mom asked me, She's like, what happened. Wasn't he 181 00:08:02,120 --> 00:08:05,000 Speaker 2: wearing a helmet? WAS like, maybe, yeah, it's not like 182 00:08:05,080 --> 00:08:07,240 Speaker 2: he went there with that one. Yeah, But so I 183 00:08:07,240 --> 00:08:08,040 Speaker 2: don't know what happened to either. 184 00:08:08,160 --> 00:08:08,800 Speaker 3: I was sorry. 185 00:08:08,880 --> 00:08:10,760 Speaker 1: It's another thing where like I know, you know, Juju 186 00:08:10,800 --> 00:08:13,360 Speaker 1: got hurt, And a lot of the remarks I saw 187 00:08:13,440 --> 00:08:15,960 Speaker 1: on social media were like, oh, you know, another injury 188 00:08:15,960 --> 00:08:18,760 Speaker 1: for Juju. This one wasn't a soft tissue thing. It's 189 00:08:18,800 --> 00:08:22,240 Speaker 1: not his fault the face. That's not his fault at all, 190 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,880 Speaker 1: Like not in not in the least bit. So we'll see. 191 00:08:25,920 --> 00:08:27,840 Speaker 1: He He was out there in a red non contact 192 00:08:27,920 --> 00:08:30,800 Speaker 1: jersey on Thursday. That hopefully is a good sign for 193 00:08:30,880 --> 00:08:36,040 Speaker 1: his availability going forward. Josh Downs. Everything we've heard, Amanda 194 00:08:36,120 --> 00:08:38,679 Speaker 1: is that the Colts are hopeful they could get him 195 00:08:38,720 --> 00:08:40,360 Speaker 1: back out there, but no one's ready to put a 196 00:08:40,360 --> 00:08:42,439 Speaker 1: timetable on it. I think we're going to need to 197 00:08:42,440 --> 00:08:44,640 Speaker 1: wait for the first injury report of next week to 198 00:08:44,720 --> 00:08:47,719 Speaker 1: kind of see, okay, is he is he participating, is 199 00:08:47,760 --> 00:08:50,240 Speaker 1: he limited, is he not participating? Whatever it might be, 200 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:52,720 Speaker 1: that's going to be pretty revealing on him. And then 201 00:08:52,760 --> 00:08:54,679 Speaker 1: anything notable on the practice squad, by the way, is 202 00:08:54,720 --> 00:08:56,320 Speaker 1: that kind of got put together this week? 203 00:08:56,640 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 2: You know, I think a lot of people were excited 204 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:02,000 Speaker 2: that Jason Bean was back, myself included. Honestly, I thought 205 00:09:02,040 --> 00:09:04,640 Speaker 2: he was really fun to watch during the preseason and 206 00:09:04,679 --> 00:09:06,520 Speaker 2: that's a I think another good sign. 207 00:09:06,880 --> 00:09:08,880 Speaker 3: Evan holl back on the practice squad. I feel like, 208 00:09:08,960 --> 00:09:10,479 Speaker 3: not a big surprise. 209 00:09:10,280 --> 00:09:10,839 Speaker 1: To get him back. 210 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:13,720 Speaker 2: Good to get him back, definitely, because him and Tyler Goodson, 211 00:09:13,760 --> 00:09:15,760 Speaker 2: they were kind of going back and forth throughout training 212 00:09:15,760 --> 00:09:17,640 Speaker 2: camp and so those like we were talking about both 213 00:09:17,679 --> 00:09:20,880 Speaker 2: guys that could definitely come up and play at certain 214 00:09:20,880 --> 00:09:23,640 Speaker 2: points this season. Other than that, I don't I don't 215 00:09:23,679 --> 00:09:25,720 Speaker 2: know if a whole lot necessarily sticks out. 216 00:09:25,880 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 1: I mean, it's it's a you know, it's a practice squad, 217 00:09:28,440 --> 00:09:29,920 Speaker 1: and you never know who's gonna come up from the 218 00:09:29,960 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: practice squad during the year, and and the Colts will need. Yeah, 219 00:09:32,840 --> 00:09:34,559 Speaker 1: I like see Lakwan Treadball on it. I thought he 220 00:09:34,600 --> 00:09:36,760 Speaker 1: had a really good that is true. I agree, good 221 00:09:36,880 --> 00:09:40,520 Speaker 1: veteran just to have around good energy, it seems absolutely Yeah. 222 00:09:40,559 --> 00:09:42,120 Speaker 1: So that that was that was one that was good 223 00:09:42,160 --> 00:09:44,520 Speaker 1: to see. We'll kind of see where the practice squad 224 00:09:44,600 --> 00:09:47,559 Speaker 1: goes from here, all right. The the big news on Thursday, 225 00:09:47,600 --> 00:09:51,559 Speaker 1: I think, Amanda, was that the Colts announced eight team captains. Yes, 226 00:09:52,000 --> 00:09:53,480 Speaker 1: that's a lot of captain That is a lot of cap. 227 00:09:53,679 --> 00:09:55,880 Speaker 1: That shows that this team, there's a lot of leadership 228 00:09:56,080 --> 00:09:58,720 Speaker 1: on this team. So DeForest Buckner, Zire Franklin, Kennymore the 229 00:09:58,760 --> 00:10:02,560 Speaker 1: second on def on offense, Ryan Kelly, Quinton Nelson, Michael 230 00:10:02,600 --> 00:10:06,200 Speaker 1: Pittman Junior, Anthony Richardson, and Jonathan Taylor. Amanda, I know 231 00:10:06,240 --> 00:10:08,720 Speaker 1: you caught up with a few receivers to talk about Pittman. Yes, 232 00:10:08,800 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: because he was a first time captain and the article 233 00:10:11,360 --> 00:10:13,440 Speaker 1: you wrote on Colts dot com kind of led with 234 00:10:13,520 --> 00:10:16,440 Speaker 1: the comments Reggie Wayne had about Pittman getting his getting 235 00:10:16,440 --> 00:10:19,600 Speaker 1: his extension but not being a captain. Now. Now, Michael 236 00:10:19,600 --> 00:10:22,079 Speaker 1: Pittman Junior deservedly, I would say, is a team cap. 237 00:10:22,240 --> 00:10:25,800 Speaker 2: Yes, And the how Reggie was talking about it. He 238 00:10:25,880 --> 00:10:28,559 Speaker 2: was basically like, why is he not captain yet? 239 00:10:28,559 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 3: Why have we not done that? 240 00:10:29,480 --> 00:10:32,120 Speaker 2: But it was also in the sense that Pittman has 241 00:10:32,200 --> 00:10:34,880 Speaker 2: been a leader and a captain in the wide receivers 242 00:10:34,960 --> 00:10:37,880 Speaker 2: room already, so you might as well make that jump 243 00:10:37,880 --> 00:10:40,120 Speaker 2: and kind of you know, you've got the physical, like 244 00:10:40,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 2: the pay per evidence of having this contract, and now 245 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 2: everybody are who already believes in him. Make him a captain, 246 00:10:45,440 --> 00:10:47,640 Speaker 2: give him the seat on his chest. Reggie said, it'll 247 00:10:47,760 --> 00:10:51,520 Speaker 2: elevate his career in his game to another stratosphere, which 248 00:10:51,600 --> 00:10:53,960 Speaker 2: was a funny quote, funny way to put it, but 249 00:10:54,000 --> 00:10:55,679 Speaker 2: that was kind of the impression I got when I 250 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:59,360 Speaker 2: talked to Alec Pearson Ashton duel In today, and that like, 251 00:10:59,400 --> 00:11:02,440 Speaker 2: they have an immense amount of belief in Pittman, and 252 00:11:02,480 --> 00:11:05,480 Speaker 2: he really has been a leader the entire time he's 253 00:11:05,520 --> 00:11:05,800 Speaker 2: been here. 254 00:11:05,880 --> 00:11:07,920 Speaker 3: Doolan was here one year before Pittman got here. 255 00:11:08,200 --> 00:11:10,320 Speaker 2: Pierce got here two years ago, so he's seen him 256 00:11:10,360 --> 00:11:12,480 Speaker 2: for a while as well, and all of it is 257 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 2: just they have so much trust in him and in 258 00:11:16,720 --> 00:11:19,360 Speaker 2: the way he leads, how he acts around people. 259 00:11:19,440 --> 00:11:20,200 Speaker 3: I thought it was funny. 260 00:11:20,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: Alec Pierce said that he was wise beyond his years, 261 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,040 Speaker 2: and he's got his life all figured out because he's 262 00:11:25,040 --> 00:11:26,760 Speaker 2: got a wife and kids. And then a couple of 263 00:11:26,760 --> 00:11:29,360 Speaker 2: minutes later, Pitt was talking and he's like, Yeah, nobody 264 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:30,560 Speaker 2: would really describe me as. 265 00:11:30,400 --> 00:11:31,440 Speaker 3: Like a very mature guy. 266 00:11:31,880 --> 00:11:34,080 Speaker 2: Like I like to fool around and like mess around, 267 00:11:34,160 --> 00:11:36,079 Speaker 2: Like I'm mature in the way that I know what's 268 00:11:36,080 --> 00:11:38,439 Speaker 2: happening on the football field. But I don't think anybody 269 00:11:38,440 --> 00:11:40,440 Speaker 2: would describe me as mature. It's like, Okay, these are 270 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,280 Speaker 2: two kind of differing perspectives, but it also gives you 271 00:11:43,360 --> 00:11:46,920 Speaker 2: kind of some insight into how other guys look at 272 00:11:46,960 --> 00:11:49,640 Speaker 2: Pitt versus how he looks at himself. And there is 273 00:11:49,640 --> 00:11:52,240 Speaker 2: a very fine line in being a leader where you 274 00:11:52,280 --> 00:11:54,920 Speaker 2: can be wise and serious and give like good advice, 275 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:56,679 Speaker 2: but you also do have to have fun with the 276 00:11:56,679 --> 00:11:59,800 Speaker 2: people the year around, because that's how you form those relationships. 277 00:12:00,160 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 2: I thought it was really insightful to talk to both 278 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:06,240 Speaker 2: of them about just the kind of person that Pitt is, 279 00:12:06,240 --> 00:12:08,440 Speaker 2: and you get a real feel for why he was 280 00:12:08,520 --> 00:12:10,520 Speaker 2: named a captain because of them. 281 00:12:10,840 --> 00:12:13,960 Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean he's very humble with it. Yeah, And 282 00:12:14,400 --> 00:12:16,600 Speaker 1: I mean, like these guys who get named captains. They're 283 00:12:16,600 --> 00:12:19,640 Speaker 1: all very honored by it. I just I love every 284 00:12:19,720 --> 00:12:22,079 Speaker 1: year talking about this because Zire Franklin and Kenny Moore 285 00:12:22,120 --> 00:12:25,679 Speaker 1: the second being captains. What an example both those guys 286 00:12:25,760 --> 00:12:29,640 Speaker 1: set for any player who's ever been overlooked in their career. Yeah, 287 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:32,679 Speaker 1: of like, look at what can happen when you work hard. 288 00:12:33,000 --> 00:12:36,480 Speaker 1: Both those guys have earned three contracts in the NFL. 289 00:12:36,720 --> 00:12:39,040 Speaker 1: That is really hard to do. You could be a 290 00:12:39,080 --> 00:12:41,120 Speaker 1: first round pick and you're not gonna earn three contracts. 291 00:12:41,640 --> 00:12:44,640 Speaker 1: Zaire is a seventh rounder, Kenny obviously the undrafted free 292 00:12:44,640 --> 00:12:47,880 Speaker 1: agent waiver claim. Look at what hard work can do, 293 00:12:47,920 --> 00:12:50,560 Speaker 1: look at where it can take you. I love like 294 00:12:50,640 --> 00:12:52,679 Speaker 1: every year seeing those guys as captains. It's such a 295 00:12:52,720 --> 00:12:55,559 Speaker 1: reminder of what they've done to get to this point. 296 00:12:55,559 --> 00:12:57,440 Speaker 1: Both those guys, by the way, Walter Payton Mann of 297 00:12:57,440 --> 00:13:00,839 Speaker 1: the Year nominees, Kenny's been a Pro bowler, Zaire should 298 00:13:00,840 --> 00:13:04,680 Speaker 1: have been a Pro Bowl or scre like that. The 299 00:13:04,720 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: Colts have a lot of really good leaders. Yep on 300 00:13:06,880 --> 00:13:07,960 Speaker 1: this team. 301 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:11,120 Speaker 3: I mean you're good on the list. There's no surprise 302 00:13:11,280 --> 00:13:11,880 Speaker 3: right any of them. 303 00:13:11,960 --> 00:13:13,800 Speaker 1: Yeah. You look at offense like you got two offensive 304 00:13:13,800 --> 00:13:16,720 Speaker 1: linemen on there obviiousde Ryan Kelly and Quint Nelson setting 305 00:13:16,720 --> 00:13:20,599 Speaker 1: a tone there, Anthony Richardson like growing into that leadership 306 00:13:20,679 --> 00:13:23,640 Speaker 1: role for him, Jonathan Taylor being back as a captain 307 00:13:23,720 --> 00:13:26,440 Speaker 1: like this is good. There is a lot of leadership 308 00:13:26,480 --> 00:13:28,800 Speaker 1: on this team. The one thing I do want to 309 00:13:28,840 --> 00:13:32,960 Speaker 1: talk about here, though, is all this leadership is happening 310 00:13:33,040 --> 00:13:35,679 Speaker 1: kind of under the umbrella of the standard set by 311 00:13:35,679 --> 00:13:39,360 Speaker 1: Shane Steiken. And I'm writing about this on Friday on 312 00:13:39,400 --> 00:13:41,320 Speaker 1: Colts dot Com. It's the lead item in my ten 313 00:13:41,360 --> 00:13:43,760 Speaker 1: Colts Things, and it's all about why the Colts are 314 00:13:43,760 --> 00:13:47,480 Speaker 1: behind Shane Steiken and how he It's not just when 315 00:13:47,480 --> 00:13:51,400 Speaker 1: I say the Colts, it's not just players, it's coaches, 316 00:13:51,480 --> 00:13:56,240 Speaker 1: its front office staffers, the entire like football operation of 317 00:13:56,280 --> 00:13:59,839 Speaker 1: this team has so much belief in Shane stikeen because 318 00:13:59,840 --> 00:14:02,400 Speaker 1: of the way that he impacts everyone who he comes 319 00:14:02,400 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: in contact with. And it's such an impressive thing and 320 00:14:05,440 --> 00:14:08,240 Speaker 1: it's something that you should not take for granted in 321 00:14:08,320 --> 00:14:11,400 Speaker 1: a head coach. The emotional intelligence that Shane Stiken has 322 00:14:12,080 --> 00:14:17,320 Speaker 1: to be a coach who players feel like empower them, 323 00:14:17,679 --> 00:14:20,520 Speaker 1: to be a coach who is willing to listen to 324 00:14:20,560 --> 00:14:24,000 Speaker 1: his other coaches and take other ideas and ultimately, yeah, 325 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:25,720 Speaker 1: he's the guy who's holding the pen last because he's 326 00:14:25,720 --> 00:14:28,240 Speaker 1: calling the plays. But he's very collaborative. And then with 327 00:14:28,360 --> 00:14:31,400 Speaker 1: Chris Ballard, he never complains about the roster he's got 328 00:14:31,440 --> 00:14:33,280 Speaker 1: because okay, right, this is what we got. Yeah, I mean, 329 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,520 Speaker 1: I figure it out right. That's such an important quality 330 00:14:36,560 --> 00:14:39,200 Speaker 1: to have where yeah, you're gonna have disagreements and all that, 331 00:14:39,240 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: but ultimately, at the end of the day, hey, the 332 00:14:40,880 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: fifty three, we got to the fifty three that we're 333 00:14:42,600 --> 00:14:44,720 Speaker 1: gonna coach up and we're gonna put in the best positions. 334 00:14:45,120 --> 00:14:48,560 Speaker 1: It all flows together, and I just I think the 335 00:14:48,760 --> 00:14:52,880 Speaker 1: league this year is going to really start to realize 336 00:14:52,880 --> 00:14:55,040 Speaker 1: how good of a coach Shane Steikeen is if they 337 00:14:55,040 --> 00:14:57,760 Speaker 1: didn't realize it already last year. Yeah, all right, and man, 338 00:14:57,920 --> 00:15:00,120 Speaker 1: let's close it out here. I want to ask what 339 00:15:00,120 --> 00:15:03,440 Speaker 1: your lasting impression of the Colts preseason is, Like, we 340 00:15:03,680 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: were there every day, we saw everything. When we get 341 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:12,600 Speaker 1: to December thirty first, January seventh, whatever it might be, 342 00:15:13,280 --> 00:15:17,640 Speaker 1: and we're reflecting on this long season that hopefully is 343 00:15:17,680 --> 00:15:19,880 Speaker 1: going to continue into the playoffs, but you're reflecting on 344 00:15:19,920 --> 00:15:23,440 Speaker 1: what we saw at Grand Park. Is there a storyline 345 00:15:23,480 --> 00:15:27,040 Speaker 1: that you're you're thinking about that You're just like, yeah, 346 00:15:27,240 --> 00:15:30,880 Speaker 1: that was indicative of what we saw last year. So 347 00:15:30,960 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: like my example here is last year, around the end 348 00:15:33,960 --> 00:15:37,960 Speaker 1: of the season, I remember thinking, man, Josh Downs and 349 00:15:38,000 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: Gardnermentshew have this great relationship, and you saw it play 350 00:15:41,120 --> 00:15:44,080 Speaker 1: out with Gardner Minshew getting Josh Downs the ball to 351 00:15:44,080 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: the point where Josh Downs broke broke our friend Bill 352 00:15:46,240 --> 00:15:47,920 Speaker 1: Brooks franchise reception record. 353 00:15:48,000 --> 00:15:48,200 Speaker 2: Yep. 354 00:15:48,840 --> 00:15:51,040 Speaker 1: There Sometimes there are storylines that you see in camp 355 00:15:51,040 --> 00:15:52,920 Speaker 1: and you're just like, that's going to carry over in 356 00:15:52,960 --> 00:15:55,000 Speaker 1: the regular season and we're going to think about it 357 00:15:55,440 --> 00:16:00,520 Speaker 1: down the stretch. Is there a player, a narrative, anything 358 00:16:00,520 --> 00:16:02,840 Speaker 1: that comes to mind when you think about that. 359 00:16:02,280 --> 00:16:03,600 Speaker 3: That's a good question. 360 00:16:03,640 --> 00:16:05,280 Speaker 2: And I saw this on the rundown earlier and I've 361 00:16:05,280 --> 00:16:07,480 Speaker 2: been thinking about it since then because I feel like, 362 00:16:08,200 --> 00:16:10,520 Speaker 2: as as always, there are so many, but there is 363 00:16:10,560 --> 00:16:15,120 Speaker 2: one that sticks out. And I think since in the 364 00:16:15,560 --> 00:16:18,400 Speaker 2: little over a month that I've been here with the Colts, 365 00:16:18,920 --> 00:16:22,760 Speaker 2: I have been turned into an Alec Pierce believer in 366 00:16:23,040 --> 00:16:24,240 Speaker 2: every single way possible. 367 00:16:24,280 --> 00:16:24,720 Speaker 1: I love this. 368 00:16:24,760 --> 00:16:27,520 Speaker 2: I love it like every every way possible because I 369 00:16:27,520 --> 00:16:30,800 Speaker 2: remember writing the first article about him, and even I 370 00:16:30,840 --> 00:16:33,480 Speaker 2: was like, Okay, yeah, this this will work. And then 371 00:16:33,600 --> 00:16:35,840 Speaker 2: all throughout training camp and then I talked to him 372 00:16:36,160 --> 00:16:38,440 Speaker 2: in the locker room about uh Pittman, and then I 373 00:16:38,440 --> 00:16:41,320 Speaker 2: talked to him kind of about himself whatever. There's something 374 00:16:41,360 --> 00:16:44,280 Speaker 2: about him that I just have so much faith that 375 00:16:44,360 --> 00:16:46,680 Speaker 2: he will have a good season and he will reflect 376 00:16:46,760 --> 00:16:50,960 Speaker 2: what he did in training camp and he because there's 377 00:16:51,000 --> 00:16:54,640 Speaker 2: so many storylines, especially around the wide receivers, I think 378 00:16:54,680 --> 00:16:58,040 Speaker 2: he has gone under the radar. Not he's not like 379 00:16:58,080 --> 00:17:00,800 Speaker 2: a big name that people are talking about or talking 380 00:17:00,840 --> 00:17:04,280 Speaker 2: to or anything like looking at. Not yet, because I 381 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:07,800 Speaker 2: think they will. But when I talk to him today, 382 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,840 Speaker 2: the one of the biggest things that he emphasized he 383 00:17:10,840 --> 00:17:12,520 Speaker 2: wants to make it to the playoffs first of all, 384 00:17:13,040 --> 00:17:17,560 Speaker 2: but he's also willing to do anything like anywhere to 385 00:17:17,640 --> 00:17:19,840 Speaker 2: help the team do that. And he brought up all 386 00:17:19,840 --> 00:17:22,600 Speaker 2: on his own, he'll play special teams. Brian Mason was 387 00:17:22,600 --> 00:17:25,360 Speaker 2: his special team's coach in Cincinnati. They know each other. 388 00:17:25,600 --> 00:17:28,680 Speaker 2: Mason's talked about that as well, and that's kind of 389 00:17:28,720 --> 00:17:31,520 Speaker 2: the thing with Pierce is that he showed during training 390 00:17:31,600 --> 00:17:33,600 Speaker 2: camp that he can kind of he can just he 391 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:34,240 Speaker 2: can just play. 392 00:17:34,280 --> 00:17:34,879 Speaker 3: He can do it. 393 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:38,000 Speaker 2: He can go day by day and strain together good days. 394 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:39,320 Speaker 2: But if he has a bad day, he'll come back 395 00:17:39,359 --> 00:17:41,919 Speaker 2: the next day and be good all over again. And 396 00:17:42,000 --> 00:17:43,960 Speaker 2: I think that's gonna come into play. That sort of 397 00:17:43,960 --> 00:17:47,040 Speaker 2: mentality is gonna set him up really well. And that's 398 00:17:47,040 --> 00:17:48,879 Speaker 2: what he said, he's gonna he's trying to focus on 399 00:17:48,960 --> 00:17:50,960 Speaker 2: just taking it day by day, not getting too high 400 00:17:51,000 --> 00:17:52,520 Speaker 2: and not getting too low. 401 00:17:52,560 --> 00:17:55,160 Speaker 3: And like I said, there's just something. 402 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:57,760 Speaker 2: About him that I'm gonna I'm gonna keep in mind, 403 00:17:57,840 --> 00:18:00,639 Speaker 2: and I'm gonna I'll clip this and come back to 404 00:18:00,680 --> 00:18:01,920 Speaker 2: it at the end of the season. I'll be like 405 00:18:02,000 --> 00:18:05,439 Speaker 2: I called it, because for whatever reason, there's just something 406 00:18:06,000 --> 00:18:08,000 Speaker 2: about him that I think that's gonna be a big 407 00:18:08,040 --> 00:18:11,960 Speaker 2: part of how the Colts play and if they succeed 408 00:18:12,000 --> 00:18:12,720 Speaker 2: and how far they go. 409 00:18:13,080 --> 00:18:15,760 Speaker 1: I love this because because Amanda, you weren't here last year. 410 00:18:15,800 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: You weren't here in twenty twenty two. 411 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,359 Speaker 3: You I didn't know who Alec Pierce was. I didn't 412 00:18:19,400 --> 00:18:19,840 Speaker 3: watch the. 413 00:18:19,720 --> 00:18:22,600 Speaker 1: Colts, right, You didn't have any preconceived notions of who 414 00:18:22,680 --> 00:18:27,320 Speaker 1: Alec Peerce was. And that is that So if you 415 00:18:27,359 --> 00:18:29,320 Speaker 1: should like, I love doing this because it's like if 416 00:18:29,320 --> 00:18:31,399 Speaker 1: you should. If it's like if you just showed up 417 00:18:31,400 --> 00:18:34,520 Speaker 1: a training camp and you were like, not knowing anything 418 00:18:34,560 --> 00:18:37,320 Speaker 1: else and you just said, man, Alec Pierce looks really good. Yeah, 419 00:18:37,359 --> 00:18:39,120 Speaker 1: and it's like, yeah, he does. You know what he does. 420 00:18:39,840 --> 00:18:42,480 Speaker 1: But if you also, if you're someone who does have 421 00:18:42,560 --> 00:18:46,280 Speaker 1: preconceived notions of who Alec Pierce is, you might say, 422 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,159 Speaker 1: I don't really buy it. Let's see it in the 423 00:18:48,200 --> 00:18:51,399 Speaker 1: regular season. But everything we've heard about Alec Pierce, in 424 00:18:51,440 --> 00:18:54,480 Speaker 1: addition to what we've seen, is that he's got there's 425 00:18:54,480 --> 00:18:56,360 Speaker 1: something different about He's got a little edge to him. 426 00:18:56,440 --> 00:18:56,640 Speaker 2: Yeah. 427 00:18:56,760 --> 00:19:00,680 Speaker 1: This year that I think is really benefiting him. Look, 428 00:19:00,720 --> 00:19:04,359 Speaker 1: I mean, the Colts drafted eighty Mitchell and he's really 429 00:19:04,400 --> 00:19:07,120 Speaker 1: had to compete and he is. He has not had 430 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,040 Speaker 1: a bad day, his bad or his let me let 431 00:19:10,080 --> 00:19:14,760 Speaker 1: me say that his bad days have not been like pits, right, 432 00:19:14,840 --> 00:19:19,159 Speaker 1: They've been better than your average bad day, if that 433 00:19:19,160 --> 00:19:21,679 Speaker 1: makes any sense, Because you can't have seventeen or eighteen 434 00:19:21,720 --> 00:19:23,480 Speaker 1: great days in training camp. You're going to have down 435 00:19:23,560 --> 00:19:27,320 Speaker 1: days and it's how do you respond to those? And 436 00:19:27,440 --> 00:19:29,240 Speaker 1: I thought he's done a fantastic job of that. He 437 00:19:29,240 --> 00:19:30,879 Speaker 1: looks like he's going to be a real player in 438 00:19:30,920 --> 00:19:31,840 Speaker 1: this offense this year. 439 00:19:32,280 --> 00:19:34,840 Speaker 2: You listen to Chris Ballard and chansteik and and they 440 00:19:34,880 --> 00:19:38,520 Speaker 2: both say that he has had such a good training camp, 441 00:19:38,600 --> 00:19:43,000 Speaker 2: and so the the expectations I think among everybody himself included, 442 00:19:43,400 --> 00:19:44,520 Speaker 2: are pretty high for him. 443 00:19:45,000 --> 00:19:47,439 Speaker 1: The one that I had Amanda was just layout two 444 00:19:47,480 --> 00:19:49,280 Speaker 1: LAT two is going to be really good. Oh yeah, 445 00:19:49,320 --> 00:19:52,639 Speaker 1: like yeah, it's not the hottest take here, but the 446 00:19:52,840 --> 00:19:56,320 Speaker 1: so Laatsuo started training camp no pads, he was looking 447 00:19:56,359 --> 00:19:58,040 Speaker 1: really good, and it was okay, let's see what you 448 00:19:58,040 --> 00:19:59,800 Speaker 1: do with the pads. Get on the pads, get on 449 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:02,520 Speaker 1: He immediately makes an impact. Okay, you did it in 450 00:20:02,640 --> 00:20:04,640 Speaker 1: padded training camp practices, go do it in a game 451 00:20:04,680 --> 00:20:06,439 Speaker 1: and joint practice as well. He did it in a 452 00:20:06,480 --> 00:20:10,400 Speaker 1: game joint practices. Finish the preseason with a sack against Cincinnati, 453 00:20:11,080 --> 00:20:13,159 Speaker 1: So now you gotta go do it in the regular season. 454 00:20:13,320 --> 00:20:15,199 Speaker 1: He has given us no reason to believe he is 455 00:20:15,200 --> 00:20:17,560 Speaker 1: not going to carry this momentum into the regular season. 456 00:20:17,800 --> 00:20:21,800 Speaker 1: And I'm always kind of on alert for like rookie dips, 457 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,320 Speaker 1: if that makes sense, Like during training camp where a 458 00:20:24,400 --> 00:20:27,879 Speaker 1: rookie starts off super hot and then kind of fades 459 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:31,400 Speaker 1: a little bit. And Latu Latu didn't fade at all 460 00:20:31,720 --> 00:20:34,119 Speaker 1: during training camp again, as evidenced by him finishing his 461 00:20:34,160 --> 00:20:37,520 Speaker 1: preseason with a sack against the Bengals. Yeah, there was 462 00:20:37,640 --> 00:20:41,560 Speaker 1: no no rookie wall in training camp, no no practice 463 00:20:41,600 --> 00:20:43,359 Speaker 1: where I came out of it being like, you know, 464 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:46,080 Speaker 1: I didn't write down ninety seven's number at all. Yeah, 465 00:20:46,400 --> 00:20:49,240 Speaker 1: every day I wrote down ninety seven, made a great 466 00:20:49,240 --> 00:20:50,640 Speaker 1: play in something. Well. 467 00:20:50,640 --> 00:20:53,400 Speaker 2: And the thing is with the rookie dip and everything 468 00:20:53,800 --> 00:20:56,240 Speaker 2: that's normal, he's not normal. 469 00:20:56,760 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: It's a great point. 470 00:20:57,560 --> 00:20:59,520 Speaker 2: So that's not but you know, like that that sort 471 00:20:59,560 --> 00:21:01,879 Speaker 2: of thing, like you can't expect him to be like 472 00:21:02,000 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: every other rookie because everything that we've seen and heard 473 00:21:05,840 --> 00:21:07,840 Speaker 2: shows that he's not like every other year. 474 00:21:07,920 --> 00:21:09,680 Speaker 1: He said, football taken away from him in a way 475 00:21:09,680 --> 00:21:12,480 Speaker 1: that no one else has. Like Zia Franklin had this 476 00:21:12,520 --> 00:21:15,120 Speaker 1: great quote today. He's talking about Lattu and just how 477 00:21:15,359 --> 00:21:18,320 Speaker 1: the thing that stands out to him. Ze said, it's 478 00:21:18,320 --> 00:21:21,199 Speaker 1: his hunger is gratitude. He's grateful to be here. You 479 00:21:21,240 --> 00:21:22,919 Speaker 1: don't get that a lot from a guy with his 480 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:26,040 Speaker 1: accomplishments and his pedigree, and I just thought that was 481 00:21:26,080 --> 00:21:29,000 Speaker 1: so interesting of like, yeah, like he's super grateful, he's 482 00:21:29,000 --> 00:21:31,840 Speaker 1: super humble. He was the first defensive player drafted in 483 00:21:31,840 --> 00:21:35,040 Speaker 1: twenty twenty four, but he doesn't let that affect how 484 00:21:35,080 --> 00:21:39,280 Speaker 1: he's going out there at all. Yeah, everything we've seen 485 00:21:39,320 --> 00:21:40,880 Speaker 1: is that he's gonna be in for a really good year. 486 00:21:40,920 --> 00:21:43,159 Speaker 1: Now what that looks like. If you're gonna sit here 487 00:21:43,160 --> 00:21:44,639 Speaker 1: and tell me he's gonna have ten sacks, I'm not 488 00:21:44,680 --> 00:21:47,119 Speaker 1: gonna be surprised. But I'm also not going to go 489 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:49,200 Speaker 1: and say he's gonna be a rookie you gets double 490 00:21:49,280 --> 00:21:52,119 Speaker 1: digit sacks, I think affecting the pressure rate that the 491 00:21:52,119 --> 00:21:53,639 Speaker 1: Colts want to get up. That's where you want to 492 00:21:53,640 --> 00:21:56,880 Speaker 1: see Latu really have an impact. And everything we've seen 493 00:21:56,960 --> 00:21:58,359 Speaker 1: is that he can absolutely have an impact. 494 00:21:58,560 --> 00:22:00,359 Speaker 2: Yeah. Oh and Chris Ballard made a point that if 495 00:22:00,400 --> 00:22:03,200 Speaker 2: you watch him, he never takes his eyes off the quarterback. 496 00:22:03,280 --> 00:22:03,960 Speaker 1: I love that one. 497 00:22:04,000 --> 00:22:06,320 Speaker 2: That and that's I remember I picked up on that 498 00:22:06,400 --> 00:22:09,160 Speaker 2: at least once or twice in training camp, in preseason, 499 00:22:09,200 --> 00:22:12,720 Speaker 2: in the games, whatever, And it's true, and it's like, Okay, 500 00:22:12,920 --> 00:22:16,360 Speaker 2: there's there's an intensity there that other people just aren't 501 00:22:16,720 --> 00:22:17,280 Speaker 2: there yet. 502 00:22:17,480 --> 00:22:20,240 Speaker 1: And like it. And that's like, it's really hard to 503 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,880 Speaker 1: have that, right, Like the instincts that he have, the 504 00:22:22,920 --> 00:22:24,880 Speaker 1: bend that he has. What could he say he moves 505 00:22:24,880 --> 00:22:29,000 Speaker 1: like water? Yeah, I mean like he's he's a remarkable player, 506 00:22:29,040 --> 00:22:30,840 Speaker 1: he's an even more remarkable person. 507 00:22:30,960 --> 00:22:31,360 Speaker 3: Yeah. 508 00:22:31,400 --> 00:22:33,840 Speaker 1: And I think those two things together you just have 509 00:22:33,920 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: so much confidence going into the season. 510 00:22:36,160 --> 00:22:39,680 Speaker 2: I'm really excited to hear how the metaphors changed throughout 511 00:22:39,680 --> 00:22:41,399 Speaker 2: the season. Wait, because you have to get more and 512 00:22:41,400 --> 00:22:43,679 Speaker 2: more creative as things keep happening, right, Like if we 513 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,760 Speaker 2: got if we got he moves like water in training camp, 514 00:22:47,040 --> 00:22:49,199 Speaker 2: that's a great point. What are we gonna get, like 515 00:22:49,240 --> 00:22:51,040 Speaker 2: a couple of weeks in when he's doing even more 516 00:22:51,080 --> 00:22:52,200 Speaker 2: than he was doing in training camp. 517 00:22:52,240 --> 00:22:57,800 Speaker 1: Goblin, we're gonna call him macgoblin. Let's call him a goblin. 518 00:22:58,400 --> 00:23:01,879 Speaker 1: Can't wait, can't wait to call a goblin here on 519 00:23:01,920 --> 00:23:03,719 Speaker 1: this podcast. All right now that I took a man 520 00:23:03,800 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: out for the rest of the podcast, that's gonna do 521 00:23:05,400 --> 00:23:07,000 Speaker 1: it for us. 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