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Speaker 1: Hi, do anybody, I'm Dan Horde and this is the

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Speaker 1: Bengals Boot Podcast to start me Up edition, as we

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Speaker 1: look back at a three point win over the Chicago

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Speaker 1: Bears to open the preseason. Coming up, my broadcast partner

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Speaker 1: Gave Lapp them will join me to discuss the players

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Speaker 1: that stood out to him in that game. We'll hit

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Speaker 1: on what's going on with the offensive line, and Lapp

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Speaker 1: will take us inside the mind of an NFL rookie

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Speaker 1: who is wondering if he is going to make it

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Speaker 1: or if he is going to get cut. Plus, in

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Speaker 1: this week's fun facts segment, you'll get to know kicker

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Speaker 1: John Brown, who made both of his attempts in the opener,

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Speaker 1: a field goal and an extra point. And here's the kicker,

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Speaker 1: no pun intended. It was the first time he had

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Speaker 1: ever attempted a field goal or a pat in a

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Speaker 1: game at any level. We'll find out how that's even possible.

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Speaker 1: All of that is straight ahead, but first, here's a

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Speaker 1: quick reminder that you can have the latest edition of

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Speaker 1: worry about that anymore, even if you're tired of seeing

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Speaker 1: everybody's selfies, as was the case last year on this podcast,

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Speaker 1: when we get to the regular season, I'll do in

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Speaker 1: depth recaps of every game with radio replays and locker

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Speaker 1: room interviews that we'll be posted in time for your

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Speaker 1: ride to work on Monday morning. But since we're talking

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Speaker 1: about the preseason opener, we'll keep it to one highlight.

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Speaker 1: Here's the game winning touchdown pass from Jeff Driscoll to

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Speaker 1: rookie Auden Tate with two minutes and four seconds to go,

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Speaker 1: second down and eight at the Bear's thirty three, Driscoll

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Speaker 1: fakes to the right, looking around for a running lane.

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Speaker 1: Roden hey dud with a touchdown catch right at the

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Speaker 1: How about Auden Tate just continues to make big plays again,

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Speaker 1: contested catch John Franklin. The third falls to the ground.

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Speaker 1: going to Tate. Tate rewarded me. It was nullified by

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Speaker 1: Now time to take an in depth look at the

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Speaker 1: preseason opener with Dave Lapham as he agains his thirty

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Speaker 1: third season in the Bengals radio booth. Lap time to

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Speaker 1: review the preseason opener, the thirty to twenty seven win

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Speaker 1: that stood out to you. Get me four on offense

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Speaker 1: to begin with, well, first and foremost, I'd have to

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Speaker 1: But and he really should have been seven for eight

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Speaker 1: And that that's another thing about him. All through camp, Dan,

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Speaker 1: He's a rare, rare breed. There's no doubt. Special teams

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Speaker 1: legal monopolistic things. They get three bucks plus interest in

425
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Speaker 1: the league. NFL had to pay all their legal expenses,

426
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Speaker 1: so they were a whole on that end. But UM, so,

427
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Speaker 1: you know, at that point in time. Um. You know

428
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Speaker 1: that league. That league was folded, um, And I'm not

429
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Speaker 1: even sure my contract was up. I don't even really

430
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Speaker 1: know what would have happened. But but I was ready.

431
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Speaker 1: I mean, i'll be honest with you, played ten years

432
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Speaker 1: in the NFL and took two weeks off on that

433
00:22:05,280 --> 00:22:08,119
Speaker 1: ten season and then went to training camp in the USFL.

434
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Speaker 1: Insane crazy. I'm not kidding you, Dan. I was like

435
00:22:13,480 --> 00:22:17,480
Speaker 1: I was taking Anderson, which is an anti inflammatory race

436
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Speaker 1: horses take. I mean, the trainers, like we're gonna give.

437
00:22:20,760 --> 00:22:23,440
Speaker 1: I could not pick my hands above my head. I'd

438
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Speaker 1: shuffle up my sidewalk to our house in New Jersey

439
00:22:26,880 --> 00:22:28,879
Speaker 1: and learning the kids, and I'd lay down on the

440
00:22:28,880 --> 00:22:32,640
Speaker 1: couch and I can't move, watched get up go to bed.

441
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:34,399
Speaker 1: I mean, I felt like I was a one hundred

442
00:22:34,480 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: years old. And so that season, that first year ended

443
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Speaker 1: and I was, you know, now I'm thirty two years old.

444
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Speaker 1: It's not like if you're twenty three, twenty four, that's

445
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Speaker 1: one thing, but at thirty two, going to be thirty

446
00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:47,240
Speaker 1: three years old? And I went to the Atlantic Ocean

447
00:22:47,280 --> 00:22:49,320
Speaker 1: when that season ended and used it as a natural

448
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Speaker 1: whirlpool and let those waves just whap away on me

449
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Speaker 1: and kind of heal up for about a month. But man,

450
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Speaker 1: it was that was hard. That was really really hard

451
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Speaker 1: that back to back season. And I had an old

452
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Speaker 1: school offensive line coach, Bill Austin, who coached with Ins

453
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Speaker 1: Lombardi in Green Bay. It's like, you don't practice, you

454
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Speaker 1: don't play. And Brian Sipe was my roommate in the

455
00:23:10,320 --> 00:23:12,560
Speaker 1: quarterback and he's like, bay man, give him. I mean,

456
00:23:13,160 --> 00:23:15,280
Speaker 1: let's come on now. You know, you know if you

457
00:23:15,320 --> 00:23:18,920
Speaker 1: don't practice, he ain't playing. So you know, every practice,

458
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Speaker 1: every game, and you know I was, I was beating up,

459
00:23:22,480 --> 00:23:25,440
Speaker 1: but in my mind I wasn't injured. So I felt

460
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Speaker 1: like if I could go out there and play, I

461
00:23:26,720 --> 00:23:28,760
Speaker 1: was going to go and play. But man, that was

462
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Speaker 1: that was a biggest challenge physically I've ever had in

463
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Speaker 1: my life. We have a sound bite from Dave Lappham's

464
00:23:35,000 --> 00:23:39,280
Speaker 1: first USFL season after taking these drugs intended for horses.

465
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Speaker 1: Here it is, I shared a stall with mister ed.

466
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Speaker 1: All right, let's do it again next week after victory

467
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Speaker 1: over the Dallas Cowboys. Sounds like a plan, my man.

468
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Speaker 1: Next Saturday's game and Dallas starts at seven o'clock. Our

469
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Speaker 1: pregame coverage on the Bengals Radio network will begin at

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Speaker 1: five thirty. Now. Time for this week's fun Facts segment,

471
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Speaker 1: as we get to know the person under the pads,

472
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Speaker 1: in this case, place kicker John Brown. We discussed his

473
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Speaker 1: remarkable story prior to last week's victory over the Bears.

474
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Speaker 1: Time for some fun facts with Bengals kicker John Brown

475
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Speaker 1: and John of the nearly three thousand people on NFL

476
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Speaker 1: rosters right now, you might have the most interesting story

477
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Speaker 1: because you are an NFL kicker despite the fact that

478
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Speaker 1: you have never attempted a field goal or a point

479
00:24:31,040 --> 00:24:34,240
Speaker 1: after in an actual game. Does that sound as crazy

480
00:24:34,320 --> 00:24:37,160
Speaker 1: to you as it does to me? Yeah, it definitely does.

481
00:24:37,440 --> 00:24:39,840
Speaker 1: I always want to be playing soccer a whole entire life,

482
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Speaker 1: but just something I've prayed about and God let me here,

483
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Speaker 1: So there I am. Have you visualized that first opportunity,

484
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Speaker 1: hopefully in the preseason opener against the Bears, to kick

485
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Speaker 1: in an NFL game? Uh? Yeah, I guess it doesn't.

486
00:24:54,520 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: It doesn't really hit you because I never like visualize

487
00:24:56,560 --> 00:24:58,160
Speaker 1: it like before. But now you're like, in the week

488
00:24:58,160 --> 00:24:59,560
Speaker 1: of the game, you're like, oh, Danny, like the game

489
00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:01,439
Speaker 1: is literally in three days, you know. So yeah, it's

490
00:25:01,480 --> 00:25:04,240
Speaker 1: definitely very exciting at the same time, Yep, people asked like,

491
00:25:04,240 --> 00:25:05,560
Speaker 1: how are your nerves and stuff like that, but it's like,

492
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Speaker 1: I'm not nervous at all. More excited, yeah, than nervous

493
00:25:08,520 --> 00:25:10,280
Speaker 1: than anything, to be honest, because yeah, this why I

494
00:25:10,280 --> 00:25:12,159
Speaker 1: prepared for, you know, all these years, just to be

495
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Speaker 1: able to kick, you know, so I finally get the opportunity.

496
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Speaker 1: We're visiting with John Brown. Let's tell the backstory a

497
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Speaker 1: little bit because you mentioned that you were a soccer player,

498
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Speaker 1: so you grew up in Mississippi. You did play high

499
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Speaker 1: school football as a wide receiver, but soccer was your

500
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Speaker 1: primary sport. Yep, soccer was my priory sport. I'm yeah,

501
00:25:27,840 --> 00:25:29,159
Speaker 1: like I said, I grew up in Mississippi, but I

502
00:25:29,160 --> 00:25:32,159
Speaker 1: actually went to IMG for high school because I was

503
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Speaker 1: playing with the USA team. We're trying to for the year.

504
00:25:35,200 --> 00:25:38,200
Speaker 1: We were training for the World Cup and everything. So yes,

505
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Speaker 1: I'm used to being away from home and everything, so

506
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Speaker 1: I went there for a few years in high school.

507
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Speaker 1: So that's why me coming out of college, it's kind

508
00:25:45,920 --> 00:25:47,920
Speaker 1: of crazy because that I'm we really do any school

509
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Speaker 1: work because mostly guys on my team they went straight

510
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Speaker 1: pro for soccer. Mom obviously wanted me to do the

511
00:25:51,720 --> 00:25:54,880
Speaker 1: whole college thing and everything. She's real bigger education, So yeah,

512
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Speaker 1: that's all. I ended up going to college, playing first

513
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Speaker 1: two years soccer, then switched to football, so I didn't

514
00:26:00,400 --> 00:26:02,720
Speaker 1: started kicking football to my junior year at college. I've

515
00:26:02,760 --> 00:26:04,879
Speaker 1: never kicked in high school, despite everybody try to give

516
00:26:04,880 --> 00:26:06,160
Speaker 1: me a kicking in high school, but I just never

517
00:26:06,160 --> 00:26:07,680
Speaker 1: did it because I was like, I've never said a

518
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Speaker 1: black person black kicker, so I just never. I was like,

519
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Speaker 1: I don't want to, you know, there's no way that

520
00:26:10,880 --> 00:26:12,639
Speaker 1: I could be a kicker. That's I always looked at it.

521
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Speaker 1: So as a member of the junior national USA soccer team,

522
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Speaker 1: you were trending toward possibly being in the Olympics or

523
00:26:20,040 --> 00:26:24,160
Speaker 1: you mentioned the World Cup or playing in MLS, Yes, sir, yes, sir, yep. Definitely, um,

524
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Speaker 1: because I had the kids that were on our team.

525
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Speaker 1: It was just like the top obviously the top forty

526
00:26:27,920 --> 00:26:30,560
Speaker 1: kids in the country in our class or whatever. So yeah,

527
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Speaker 1: and I actually was, yeah, with the n I was

528
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Speaker 1: actually playing a year the first time I got called

529
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Speaker 1: to them. Yea. I was went with the older group

530
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Speaker 1: of guys actually with the USA team. So definitely, yeah,

531
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Speaker 1: if I played obviously stuck with soccer, yeah, definitely could

532
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Speaker 1: have been obviously that's why everybody sld me playing like MLS.

533
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Speaker 1: But you know, God let me here. So if you

534
00:26:46,560 --> 00:26:49,000
Speaker 1: definitely very thankful they worked out this way. We're doing

535
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Speaker 1: fun facts with a kicker, John Brown. You went to

536
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Speaker 1: Kentucky on a soccer scholarship, played for a year there,

537
00:26:54,520 --> 00:26:57,920
Speaker 1: transferred to Louisville, played soccer for a year there, and

538
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Speaker 1: then you make this change lane. How it happened, It's

539
00:27:02,200 --> 00:27:05,080
Speaker 1: kind of crazy because I went back home. I remember

540
00:27:05,119 --> 00:27:06,919
Speaker 1: I was talking to my family about everything, and I

541
00:27:06,960 --> 00:27:09,280
Speaker 1: just felt like just something to my spirit. Just felt

542
00:27:09,280 --> 00:27:10,520
Speaker 1: like I had to pray about everything. So I went

543
00:27:10,520 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: to my yea, I talked to my parents about it.

544
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:13,600
Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, I was like if I keep

545
00:27:13,600 --> 00:27:15,639
Speaker 1: going this way. Obviously for soccer, I loved it, but

546
00:27:15,920 --> 00:27:17,199
Speaker 1: I was just looking at as far as like if

547
00:27:17,200 --> 00:27:18,760
Speaker 1: I make it to MLS, I won't be able to

548
00:27:19,040 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: really support a family because the salary is, you know,

549
00:27:21,359 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: solo for soccer players over here. So I was like,

550
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:26,120
Speaker 1: I'll have to get like another job afterwards. I kind

551
00:27:26,119 --> 00:27:27,600
Speaker 1: of I talked to my parents about it. I prayed

552
00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 1: about it. So I was really laying in bed one

553
00:27:29,840 --> 00:27:32,480
Speaker 1: night until something told me to go to Texas A

554
00:27:32,480 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: and in football roster. So I'm like, I've never looked

555
00:27:34,359 --> 00:27:36,199
Speaker 1: at the FULLBA roster before, you know. So I went

556
00:27:36,240 --> 00:27:37,600
Speaker 1: to the roster or whatever it was like scrolled out,

557
00:27:37,640 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: so I told me that the kickers. I was like

558
00:27:39,000 --> 00:27:40,840
Speaker 1: the kickers, So I went to the kickers at the

559
00:27:40,880 --> 00:27:43,560
Speaker 1: first guy clicked on was Josh Lambo. He's actually in

560
00:27:43,600 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: the NFL right now, and he was a soccer player

561
00:27:46,359 --> 00:27:47,920
Speaker 1: as well, who playing in the USA team like I did,

562
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Speaker 1: Like he did the whole yeah national team and all

563
00:27:49,800 --> 00:27:51,440
Speaker 1: other stuff. He did exact same thing. So now he

564
00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:53,879
Speaker 1: switched to football. So now he's Yeah, now he's in

565
00:27:53,920 --> 00:27:56,240
Speaker 1: the NFL kicking for the star kicker for the Jacksonail Jaguar.

566
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Speaker 1: So I was like, God, is this you telling me

567
00:27:58,160 --> 00:27:59,960
Speaker 1: you want me to kick? I was like, I was like, no,

568
00:28:00,119 --> 00:28:02,080
Speaker 1: it can't be. So I kind of pushed it away

569
00:28:02,119 --> 00:28:04,520
Speaker 1: or whatever. But he just literally it's like, you know,

570
00:28:04,720 --> 00:28:06,320
Speaker 1: guy wants you to do something, He's gonna get his way.

571
00:28:06,440 --> 00:28:08,960
Speaker 1: So he just stuck with my spirit for like lately

572
00:28:08,960 --> 00:28:10,919
Speaker 1: flight though that whole week or whatever. I can, I

573
00:28:10,920 --> 00:28:12,119
Speaker 1: get it out of my get it out of my head.

574
00:28:12,160 --> 00:28:13,159
Speaker 1: So I was all right. So I talked to my

575
00:28:13,200 --> 00:28:15,080
Speaker 1: parents about it. Of course I thought it was crazy.

576
00:28:15,080 --> 00:28:16,600
Speaker 1: They're like what And then my mom was like, whoa

577
00:28:16,720 --> 00:28:18,400
Speaker 1: the guy? You feel like this school guy? I told you, dude,

578
00:28:18,440 --> 00:28:20,560
Speaker 1: he said, you need to go with it. So yeah,

579
00:28:20,600 --> 00:28:22,440
Speaker 1: So that's when I didn't return to soccer. I didn't

580
00:28:22,440 --> 00:28:24,320
Speaker 1: even go back to Louisville the falling semester. I just

581
00:28:25,000 --> 00:28:27,879
Speaker 1: stayed back at home and I trained with my trainer,

582
00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:31,360
Speaker 1: Brent Bear. Yeah he's from Louisiana. Yeah, well he's from Mississippi,

583
00:28:31,440 --> 00:28:33,879
Speaker 1: but he says in the Lafayette So I always dropping

584
00:28:34,000 --> 00:28:35,800
Speaker 1: four and a half hours every weekend to train with

585
00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:38,480
Speaker 1: him on Saturday, then dropped back so night our trip

586
00:28:38,520 --> 00:28:40,720
Speaker 1: every Saturday. Yeah, it's just to train with him. Because

587
00:28:40,720 --> 00:28:42,720
Speaker 1: I wasn't going to school. I was just taking oldline classes.

588
00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:44,720
Speaker 1: So I was just training for football that whole time.

589
00:28:44,720 --> 00:28:47,960
Speaker 1: And then when Kentucky Derby came around, we got some

590
00:28:48,000 --> 00:28:50,240
Speaker 1: film on me, so I sent it out of Louisville,

591
00:28:50,240 --> 00:28:52,240
Speaker 1: where they never replied. So I was like, Okay, I'm

592
00:28:52,280 --> 00:28:54,160
Speaker 1: gonna drive the tape up there then and give it

593
00:28:54,160 --> 00:28:56,320
Speaker 1: the coaches in persons as they want to reply to me.

594
00:28:56,320 --> 00:28:59,000
Speaker 1: So I drove up to Louisville by myself and gave

595
00:28:59,120 --> 00:29:01,320
Speaker 1: ye try to get them the coaches, but they weren't there,

596
00:29:01,800 --> 00:29:03,480
Speaker 1: so I'll say, oh man, So I had to sleep

597
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:05,640
Speaker 1: my friend's couch, and then the next morning I went

598
00:29:05,640 --> 00:29:07,560
Speaker 1: back there again they were there, so I gave my

599
00:29:07,600 --> 00:29:09,000
Speaker 1: film that they were in prison. They called me the

600
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: following week, so it took off from there. Yeah, so

601
00:29:11,200 --> 00:29:13,200
Speaker 1: that's when I reported for workouts in the summer. Then

602
00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:15,680
Speaker 1: I saw it all started. We're doing fun facts with

603
00:29:15,840 --> 00:29:18,440
Speaker 1: kicker John Brown. You did get to kick off ten

604
00:29:18,520 --> 00:29:21,080
Speaker 1: times at Louisville, but as I mentioned earlier, didn't get

605
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:23,840
Speaker 1: the opportunity to kick field goals or extra points. So

606
00:29:23,880 --> 00:29:27,040
Speaker 1: how does a guy with that resume get a chance

607
00:29:27,080 --> 00:29:31,440
Speaker 1: to kick for an NFL team. It's one of those

608
00:29:31,480 --> 00:29:33,800
Speaker 1: things like you can you can't wrap your head around

609
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:35,200
Speaker 1: in it, you know what I mean. But it's like

610
00:29:35,720 --> 00:29:37,360
Speaker 1: that's all always. I give all the glory to God

611
00:29:37,360 --> 00:29:39,560
Speaker 1: because I knew a guy put him my spirit and

612
00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:42,160
Speaker 1: I know, yeah, he hasn't filled me yet, So I

613
00:29:42,200 --> 00:29:44,080
Speaker 1: knew were gonna start filing me. So I always get

614
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:46,720
Speaker 1: the faith and yeah, this is all guys doing. I

615
00:29:46,720 --> 00:29:48,600
Speaker 1: really don't have any words for it. Like I can't

616
00:29:48,600 --> 00:29:51,440
Speaker 1: even explain it. Like I knew what God showed me,

617
00:29:51,480 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: but never in my life I thought that I would actually,

618
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:55,800
Speaker 1: like now you hear, you're like, dang, Like it's just

619
00:29:55,800 --> 00:29:57,920
Speaker 1: crazy how guy works. You know you did kick in

620
00:29:57,960 --> 00:30:00,720
Speaker 1: a pro day in Louisville, Matt caught the Bengals eye.

621
00:30:01,160 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: Did you make a seventy yard field goal in that? Did? I? Did?

622
00:30:04,680 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 1: I read that correctly. I don't think it was in

623
00:30:07,680 --> 00:30:09,600
Speaker 1: pro day. We hit some blown field goals whatever, but

624
00:30:09,680 --> 00:30:11,480
Speaker 1: yeah I did hit a seven yard day in practice

625
00:30:11,520 --> 00:30:13,160
Speaker 1: or whatever, but I don't I don't. Yeah, I don't

626
00:30:13,160 --> 00:30:14,360
Speaker 1: know if it's in pro day and I I wouldn't even

627
00:30:14,360 --> 00:30:16,800
Speaker 1: pay I don't even paying attention to the dises or whatever.

628
00:30:16,920 --> 00:30:18,880
Speaker 1: I really don't because I know if I pay attention

629
00:30:18,920 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: to what dis is, I'm met, I'll try to like

630
00:30:20,160 --> 00:30:22,520
Speaker 1: switch on my mechanics. So I literally just go out

631
00:30:22,520 --> 00:30:24,640
Speaker 1: there and kick. To be honest with you, So we're

632
00:30:24,640 --> 00:30:26,960
Speaker 1: doing fun facts with John Brown, the Bengals kicker. You've

633
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:28,680
Speaker 1: been with a team for a couple of years now,

634
00:30:28,720 --> 00:30:30,840
Speaker 1: at least in the off season in mini camps and

635
00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,880
Speaker 1: last year for a while in training camp. But you

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Speaker 1: haven't been with the team during the season. What have

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Speaker 1: you been doing during the season the last couple of years. Uh, Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I've just been staying on top of my trending, um

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Speaker 1: my trending. John Carney, he stays out in San Diego. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: you probably heard him at the NFL in like twenty two,

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Speaker 1: twenty three years. Yeah, so I literally go out there

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Speaker 1: all the time to get a lot of work in

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Speaker 1: with him. I go out there for like a month

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Speaker 1: at a time. This is all the way in San Diego,

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Speaker 1: so get a lot of work in with him. And

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Speaker 1: obviously yeah, he spoke to Koe Simmons when they were

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Speaker 1: out when Coch Simmons came out to California, and they

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Speaker 1: had like a lot of good things to say about

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Speaker 1: me as well. So yeah, that's what I've been doing,

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Speaker 1: going out there at training whatever, just staying on top

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Speaker 1: of everything, keeping the faith. Yeah, know, you guy work

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Speaker 1: everything out for me. So it's good to be back

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Speaker 1: here for sure. John. As you mentioned, there are not

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Speaker 1: a lot of African American kickers and When you first

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Speaker 1: showed up in the Bengals locker room, people assumed you

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Speaker 1: were a defensive back, right, Oh yeah, yeah. We had

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Speaker 1: team introductions yea, and then I said, yeah, I was

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Speaker 1: a kicker or whatever. Everybody looked back and they were

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Speaker 1: like what, They're like, this whole time we thought you

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Speaker 1: were Yeah, we thought you were a receiver. DV. Because

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Speaker 1: like even though rookies, they were like John, there's like

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Speaker 1: where you There's like, where are you doing cracks? I

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Speaker 1: was like, what are you talking about? There's like rickommunicat

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Speaker 1: this past time. I was like, dude, I'm on the

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Speaker 1: opposite field just chilling or whatever. He's like, he's like, yo,

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Speaker 1: He's like, I wonder why I never see you in

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Speaker 1: drills or whatever. You say. This whole time he said,

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Speaker 1: I thought you were a receiver. He was like, I'll

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Speaker 1: be looking for you on the field. He so, I

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Speaker 1: had no clue you're a kicker. It's definitely, definitely very interesting.

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Speaker 1: Nobody ever relieves when I tell him a kicker. If

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Speaker 1: I meet him in person, Yeah, they like look me

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Speaker 1: up and everything. It's like there's no way he's lying.

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Speaker 1: So all right, final fun fact for Bengals kicker John Brown.

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Speaker 1: What is your father's first name? Cleveland yet four name

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Speaker 1: in Cleveland Brown. Everybody, everyone always gives me a hearts

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Speaker 1: out of that. Yeah, if I'd use a card to

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Speaker 1: use their card when they look at it like Cleveland

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Speaker 1: browns all this one night and make jokes about it.

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Speaker 1: So yeah, definitely interesting. A Cincinnati Bengals kicker who is

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Speaker 1: the son of Cleveland Brown. We look forward to seeing

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Speaker 1: you kick, hopefully against the Bears best to fluct this preseason.

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Speaker 1: Thank you, yes, sir, thank you. Brown made both of

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Speaker 1: his kicks against the Bears, hitting the bengals first extra

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Speaker 1: point and a twenty four yard field goal. However, Randy

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Speaker 1: Bullock made all four of his kicks, two pats and

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Speaker 1: two field goals, and barring injury, is almost certain to

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Speaker 1: be the Bengals kicker when the regular season begins. That's

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Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of the podcast.

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Speaker 1: this podcast. I'm Dan Horde. And thank you for listening

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