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Speaker 1: to be joined by Jeff Ratcliffe of Pro Football Focus

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Speaker 1: to talk about waiver wire pickups and to recap some

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Speaker 1: news items from week. Hey, Jeff, thanks for joining us.

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Speaker 1: Always happy to stop buying talk some football. Okay, So, Jeff,

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Speaker 1: this might not be the most single fantasy relevant news story,

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Speaker 1: but the Patriots just traded their young star linebacker Jamie

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Speaker 1: Collins to the Browns for a third round pick. I mean,

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Speaker 1: isn't this the same as the Warriors last season trading

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Speaker 1: Clay Thompson to the seventy six ers in the middle

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Speaker 1: of the season, their middle of their championship run for

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Speaker 1: a high second round draft pick. What's going on as

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Speaker 1: a Philadelphia and I really would have liked to have

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Speaker 1: seen that happen, But you know, it's one of those

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Speaker 1: things with Bill Belichick that I don't know if it's

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Speaker 1: did see them obviously, they acquired Kyle van Noy. Van Noy,

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Speaker 1: that's hard to say quickly a couple of weeks ago,

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Speaker 1: a promising kid entering the league, but really kind of

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Speaker 1: didn't fit a role in that Detroit defense playing strong

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Speaker 1: side linebacker, which is actually where Collins played. So I

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Speaker 1: don't know if that's a thing. I mean, right now,

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Speaker 1: you would think that Barcadious Mango would play in the

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Speaker 1: base defense. And then they're really high on the land

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Speaker 1: and Roberts, who is like a no namer for a

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Speaker 1: lot of folks out there, but he's been playing well

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Speaker 1: with Dante Hietower, who's been fantastic. It's a bizarre move,

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Speaker 1: especially for a third round pick, but it's Bill Belichick,

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Speaker 1: so I don't really try to figure it out. Yeah, yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's that's the best way to put it is he's

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Speaker 1: earned our trust, right, I mean, we have to think

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Speaker 1: he's onto something here. I can't make sense of it,

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Speaker 1: but you know there's a reason he gets paid the

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Speaker 1: big bucks. Absolutely all right, So Jamal Charles, he's getting

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Speaker 1: another expert to look at his knee, which is just sad.

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Speaker 1: He might be done for the season. We'll find out soon.

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Speaker 1: Now Spencer Ware has a concussion? How good Chuck Hendrick

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Speaker 1: Westby As a fantasy player, He's not going to be

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Speaker 1: as good as Spencer Ware. We've seen West and the

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Speaker 1: thing about west is he he's definitely got some boom

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Speaker 1: so at least at bode somewhat positively here. This is

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Speaker 1: one of those situations where concussions can be really tricky

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Speaker 1: going to miss the week, whereas an LP getting through

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Speaker 1: the protocol quickly, that would be a good thing. Obviously.

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Speaker 1: Though at this point with the attrition at the running

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Speaker 1: and that's a start. Touches are obviously very important for

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Speaker 1: like Mike Gillislee right now? GILLISLI, but that's largely because

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Speaker 1: team in the NFL who's better. They are awesome, And yeah,

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Speaker 1: Shady was playing well, but they were making him look

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Speaker 1: much about the offensive line. And that's why Todd Gurley's

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Speaker 1: been so horrible this season, right, Yeah, it's unfortunate. And

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Speaker 1: you know the thing about Girlee is that he's still

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Speaker 1: this morning. Everybody out there who's been banging that drum

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Speaker 1: for DeAndre Hopkins being a bus all right, fine, you win.

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Speaker 1: I don't think it's him though. I think it's brock Osweiler.

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Speaker 1: But Girly, I feel bad for Girly because he's getting

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Speaker 1: but the efficiency just isn't. Opposing defenses know exactly what

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Speaker 1: I'm not sure who he's going to compete with for touches.

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Speaker 1: So I think Hopkins is the guy. With their schedule strength,

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Speaker 1: He's been the guy. I mean, you know, he had

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Speaker 1: so he's been their guy. It's just the problem is

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Speaker 1: I just think the situation unfortunately isn't there for him

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Speaker 1: this year. But again, let's look at it from dynasty

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Speaker 1: for dynasty purposes. It's a time to buy low. You

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Speaker 1: maybe you can get your hands on Hopkins a little

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Speaker 1: I'm really impressed with CJ. Fedorowitz. I didn't expect a

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Speaker 1: I was struggling and had Martellis Bennett. I benched Bennett

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Speaker 1: happy that I did. Yeah. Yeah, he's been really impressive

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Speaker 1: and I keep thinking that it's just some kind of fluke,

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Speaker 1: but he produces every single week, yep, exactly, and the

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Speaker 1: target share is there. I mean, he saw just over

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Speaker 1: continuing to be there for him. I don't think I

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Speaker 1: think this is a fluke whatsoever, Jeff. I want to

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Speaker 1: bounce back over and talk about this Chief's offensive more.

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Speaker 1: I was watching the game because in Saint Louis, who

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Speaker 1: think that this might help Jeremy Macklin's status? It could potentially. Obviously,

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Speaker 1: during Nick Foles's magical season in Philadelphia, Macklin was with Philadelphia,

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Speaker 1: So market Ingram lost another fumble and he's just been

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Speaker 1: downright disappointing. Sean Payton came out and said this is

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Speaker 1: came back and played most of the game and then

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Speaker 1: it was announced their injury was a big deal. So

427
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Speaker 1: should we pick up Capri Bibs just in case? Uh,

428
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Speaker 1: Capri Bibbs doesn't really do it for me. I'm not

429
00:21:36,119 --> 00:21:39,800
Speaker 1: that excited about him, and you know, the initial word

430
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Speaker 1: here it's a shoulder injury. But it sounds like Booker

431
00:21:43,280 --> 00:21:45,439
Speaker 1: is going to be good to go, you know, so

432
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Speaker 1: I'm not really worried about it, and I hope he

433
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Speaker 1: is good to go because they did truly use him

434
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Speaker 1: as a feature back. He played over eighty percent of

435
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Speaker 1: the snaps twenty four touches in the game. It wasn't

436
00:21:56,680 --> 00:21:59,159
Speaker 1: an efficient day, but he found the end zone. He

437
00:21:59,240 --> 00:22:01,360
Speaker 1: was able to contrue ut as a as a receiver,

438
00:22:01,800 --> 00:22:05,960
Speaker 1: so you get those fantasy points that that salvage a

439
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Speaker 1: sub four yard per carry effort. I think it was a

440
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Speaker 1: a sub three yard per carry effort, but it salvages

441
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Speaker 1: those bad days. I don't in this instance though, If

442
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Speaker 1: it's Capri Bibbs, that's that's a bad scenario obviously for

443
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Speaker 1: for Denver, and I don't think it's a scenario where

444
00:22:23,480 --> 00:22:25,959
Speaker 1: we're going to be able to get much for fantasy purposes.

445
00:22:26,240 --> 00:22:28,920
Speaker 1: I don't. I wouldn't expect them to just immediately roll

446
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Speaker 1: him in to an every down roll. Maybe we do

447
00:22:32,920 --> 00:22:36,200
Speaker 1: see more Juwan Thompson in that in that case, and

448
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Speaker 1: I don't know if they give more carries to Janovitch,

449
00:22:39,359 --> 00:22:43,440
Speaker 1: But either way, it's not a it's not the handcuff

450
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Speaker 1: situation that you had when you had C. J. Anderson

451
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Speaker 1: and DeVante Booker and and really I think, you know,

452
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Speaker 1: like I said, Denver is going to be praying here

453
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Speaker 1: because they they have no shot. If if it's Capri

454
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Speaker 1: Bibs and and Juwan Thompson as their backfield. That's that's

455
00:22:57,280 --> 00:22:59,960
Speaker 1: a that's not an ideal tandem for him because then

456
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Speaker 1: Trevor Simeons gonna have to throw the ball forty times

457
00:23:02,240 --> 00:23:04,560
Speaker 1: a game and man though, that would be ugly and

458
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:07,000
Speaker 1: he's not going to be protected. Yeah, he's running back.

459
00:23:07,000 --> 00:23:09,119
Speaker 1: At least the defense is good enough to think he

460
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Speaker 1: still probably make the playoffs. But you know, unless DeVante

461
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Speaker 1: Booker stays healthy, I'm not sure Denver has much of

462
00:23:16,280 --> 00:23:20,400
Speaker 1: a chance. Yeah. So you mentioned CJ. Prosist a minute ago.

463
00:23:21,320 --> 00:23:23,560
Speaker 1: What is the upside on him? I mean, he's got

464
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Speaker 1: to beat out Christine Michael, He's got to beat out

465
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Speaker 1: Thomas Rawls when he comes back. Is there a chance

466
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Speaker 1: of that happening? What's his upside? Well, I don't think

467
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Speaker 1: he has to beat out at this point right now.

468
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Speaker 1: He beat out the one person who needed to beat out,

469
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Speaker 1: and that was c. J. Spiller. In fact, the team

470
00:23:38,480 --> 00:23:40,760
Speaker 1: cuts CJ. Spiller as a result of pro Sis coming

471
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Speaker 1: back on the field. We finally see him back, and

472
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Speaker 1: we see him on the field. Really he was out

473
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Speaker 1: there in week one, but otherwise nothing from him, and

474
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Speaker 1: this week was was really the process that I had

475
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Speaker 1: expected to see. I've I've banged the drum for him

476
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Speaker 1: since early April. But four catches eighty yards obviously had

477
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Speaker 1: that long play and then a little bit as a

478
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Speaker 1: runner two for twenty three. And I'll be honest in

479
00:24:06,880 --> 00:24:09,480
Speaker 1: watching this game and doing a side by side comparison,

480
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Speaker 1: So Michael played twenty eight snaps, Process played twenty three snaps.

481
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Speaker 1: Proceeds looked like the better player to me, and not

482
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Speaker 1: just because he's a better receiver. I think he looked

483
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Speaker 1: like the better running back as a whole. So I

484
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Speaker 1: don't know, you know, is this a scenario where he

485
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Speaker 1: has to beat out people? I don't know. I think

486
00:24:26,640 --> 00:24:29,159
Speaker 1: the cream rises to the top, and he is the cream.

487
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Speaker 1: He's the best athlete on this team, and he is

488
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Speaker 1: really the best running back. And you look at Rawls.

489
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Speaker 1: I know there's this infatuation with Rawls based on what

490
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Speaker 1: he did last year. It was a small sample size.

491
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Speaker 1: It was basically only really four games where he produced.

492
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Speaker 1: Beyond that, you look at the pedigree too. I mean,

493
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Speaker 1: he was an undrafted free agent, which is different today

494
00:24:47,720 --> 00:24:51,000
Speaker 1: than it was ten years ago. To be undrafted running

495
00:24:51,000 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: back free agent ten years ago was really saying something today.

496
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Speaker 1: There are a lot of good running backs who go undrafted,

497
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Speaker 1: but he was undrafted for reason, and pro Sie was

498
00:25:01,520 --> 00:25:04,760
Speaker 1: drafted on Day two for a reason. He's a very

499
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Speaker 1: talented runner, and there could be a situation where he's

500
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Speaker 1: the lead back in this group, you know, by late November,

501
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Speaker 1: early December. It wouldn't shock me. Now, I'm not going

502
00:25:16,240 --> 00:25:18,800
Speaker 1: to go on record and predict that, but that's why

503
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Speaker 1: I'm putting him on my benches. I have him and

504
00:25:21,640 --> 00:25:23,840
Speaker 1: I have Kenneth Dixon on my bench for the exact

505
00:25:23,880 --> 00:25:26,359
Speaker 1: same reason. Which those two do you like best? For

506
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Speaker 1: keeper leagues? Well, I mean keeper is different, you know Dynasty,

507
00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:34,920
Speaker 1: Then I'm I want the younger guys in a keeper league.

508
00:25:34,920 --> 00:25:37,200
Speaker 1: I'm willing to keep like a you know, a twenty

509
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Speaker 1: seven year old running back if he's going to be

510
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Speaker 1: a feature back. But in Dynasty, I would give the

511
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Speaker 1: slight edge to Dixon. It's super close, and I have

512
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Speaker 1: I'm a sucker for size, speed guys, which is exactly

513
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Speaker 1: what pro Sie is. I mean, you're talking to running

514
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Speaker 1: back who who is over six foot, who goes to

515
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Speaker 1: twenty but can also crack off a four four forty,

516
00:25:58,200 --> 00:26:01,640
Speaker 1: Not that Dixon is a slab in that department too,

517
00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:05,359
Speaker 1: and he was very dynamic. But I do give him

518
00:26:05,359 --> 00:26:07,320
Speaker 1: the edge. I think the long term out looked just

519
00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,200
Speaker 1: a little bit better for him there. The situation is

520
00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,560
Speaker 1: a little bit better for him in terms of the competition,

521
00:26:14,119 --> 00:26:16,119
Speaker 1: and so it's a slight edge. I want both of

522
00:26:16,119 --> 00:26:19,119
Speaker 1: them though, honestly, Plus, that Seattle offensive line is just

523
00:26:19,280 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: it's just abysmal. They're going to have to do some

524
00:26:21,440 --> 00:26:24,760
Speaker 1: serious work there this offseason. And they tried, they tried.

525
00:26:25,000 --> 00:26:28,280
Speaker 1: They brought in uh you know, they drafted Affetti and

526
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Speaker 1: a first round pick, late first round pick, and he's

527
00:26:32,320 --> 00:26:36,320
Speaker 1: had a rough go so far. Now he's only played

528
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Speaker 1: in four games this season, and I think maybe you

529
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Speaker 1: could say he improved a little bit this week, but

530
00:26:42,320 --> 00:26:45,080
Speaker 1: it was against New Orleans, so that's not really same much.

531
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Speaker 1: But they definitely need help along the offensive line. We've

532
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Speaker 1: seen what it did to Russell Wilson so far this

533
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Speaker 1: year to establish that run game. And let's be clear,

534
00:26:55,160 --> 00:26:57,919
Speaker 1: they're going from we talked about yards before contact, Well

535
00:26:58,000 --> 00:27:01,880
Speaker 1: let's talk about yards after contact. That's not an offensive lineman.

536
00:27:02,040 --> 00:27:04,919
Speaker 1: That's that's the running that creating those and one of

537
00:27:04,960 --> 00:27:07,280
Speaker 1: the best that we've seen in the last decade at

538
00:27:07,359 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: creating yards on his own is Marshawn Lynch. He doesn't

539
00:27:11,200 --> 00:27:14,280
Speaker 1: get enough credit for how good he was at that.

540
00:27:14,960 --> 00:27:17,920
Speaker 1: And now you know, you're we're seeing the effects here

541
00:27:17,960 --> 00:27:21,119
Speaker 1: with this offensive line. Kristen Michael is not Marshawn Lynch,

542
00:27:21,800 --> 00:27:25,240
Speaker 1: and it does it really has impacted this team pretty significantly,

543
00:27:25,280 --> 00:27:27,440
Speaker 1: so that hopefully is going to be a priority. This

544
00:27:27,480 --> 00:27:29,360
Speaker 1: is what happens too when you win a Super Bowl

545
00:27:29,400 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: and you have to pay certain players, it's hard to

546
00:27:32,600 --> 00:27:35,840
Speaker 1: really you know, get a well rounded team and you

547
00:27:36,080 --> 00:27:38,479
Speaker 1: end up lacking in certain areas. Do you think Seattle

548
00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: can win the Super Bowl this year? This year? I don't.

549
00:27:42,280 --> 00:27:45,520
Speaker 1: But then again, let's you know, let's be clear that

550
00:27:45,840 --> 00:27:48,800
Speaker 1: when did the turnaround happened last year? It happened in

551
00:27:48,840 --> 00:27:52,080
Speaker 1: Week nine, So we will say this last year. Yeah,

552
00:27:52,119 --> 00:27:54,280
Speaker 1: there's still a lot of football left to play. We'll

553
00:27:54,280 --> 00:27:57,640
Speaker 1: see what happens if if Russell Wilson's able to shed

554
00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:01,360
Speaker 1: this knee brace and he's able to move more, that changes.

555
00:28:01,520 --> 00:28:03,879
Speaker 1: If he can get on the move, he can create

556
00:28:03,920 --> 00:28:07,200
Speaker 1: Because the Seattle offense is a really basic offense. It's

557
00:28:07,280 --> 00:28:10,359
Speaker 1: not a complex offense. It's not like what we see

558
00:28:10,480 --> 00:28:13,320
Speaker 1: in New England, where it's basically almost a different offense

559
00:28:13,320 --> 00:28:16,560
Speaker 1: every single week. It's very basic, and a lot of

560
00:28:16,600 --> 00:28:19,960
Speaker 1: the creating is Russell Wilson doing stuff on the move,

561
00:28:20,080 --> 00:28:22,640
Speaker 1: and he's not able to do that. He's not able

562
00:28:22,640 --> 00:28:26,359
Speaker 1: to play his game right now, so that's obviously impacting things.

563
00:28:26,760 --> 00:28:28,159
Speaker 1: I don't think they can win the Super Bowl. I

564
00:28:28,200 --> 00:28:30,280
Speaker 1: think there's one team that clearly stands out as a

565
00:28:30,359 --> 00:28:33,040
Speaker 1: super Bowl favorite, and it is that team. I just

566
00:28:33,080 --> 00:28:36,919
Speaker 1: made reference to Tom Brady right now. It's unbelievable. If

567
00:28:36,960 --> 00:28:39,800
Speaker 1: you know, I hate the if you extrapolate this out,

568
00:28:39,840 --> 00:28:42,000
Speaker 1: but I'm gonna say it anyway. If you extrapolate this

569
00:28:42,080 --> 00:28:44,200
Speaker 1: out over the course of a season, he would have

570
00:28:44,280 --> 00:28:47,680
Speaker 1: forty eight touchdown passes and almost five thousand, three hundred

571
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Speaker 1: yards passing based on what he's done over the last

572
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Speaker 1: four weeks. He's also on pace to set a career

573
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Speaker 1: high in yards per carry. He's a four point four

574
00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,320
Speaker 1: yards per carry right now. Tom Brady almost looked asked

575
00:29:00,440 --> 00:29:03,280
Speaker 1: a couple of times so far over the last four weeks.

576
00:29:03,520 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 1: I don't know what he's doing. If it's the fact

577
00:29:06,040 --> 00:29:08,840
Speaker 1: that he's not eating tomatoes and peppers. That's doing this

578
00:29:08,960 --> 00:29:12,160
Speaker 1: for him. But whatever he's doing, it's working, and he's

579
00:29:12,200 --> 00:29:14,920
Speaker 1: playing the best football of his life at thirty nine

580
00:29:14,960 --> 00:29:18,600
Speaker 1: years old. It is really unbelievable. We're witnessing greatness every

581
00:29:18,600 --> 00:29:21,280
Speaker 1: single week. This guy plays. He's gonna play till he's fifty.

582
00:29:21,360 --> 00:29:23,480
Speaker 1: And you know the amazing thing is they're leading the

583
00:29:23,520 --> 00:29:26,840
Speaker 1: AFC and points scored and they've given up the least

584
00:29:26,960 --> 00:29:29,400
Speaker 1: points of any team in the AFC. And they did

585
00:29:29,440 --> 00:29:32,560
Speaker 1: it with all these players out. Gronk was out, Brady

586
00:29:32,640 --> 00:29:34,720
Speaker 1: was out, all those players on defense we're out. They're

587
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,560
Speaker 1: getting Dan Lewis back soon. They're definitely the favorite. What

588
00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 1: do you think about Dan Lewis? He's back to practicing.

589
00:29:40,320 --> 00:29:42,880
Speaker 1: Patriots have a Week nine by now. Is he going

590
00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:45,000
Speaker 1: to play against the Bengals in Week ten? And what's

591
00:29:45,000 --> 00:29:47,360
Speaker 1: his role going to be? Like? Well, I think that's

592
00:29:47,440 --> 00:29:51,280
Speaker 1: the target that's been the target all along. His role

593
00:29:51,640 --> 00:29:58,800
Speaker 1: will unfortunately relegate James White to the bench. Essentially, James

594
00:29:58,800 --> 00:30:01,560
Speaker 1: Blade will go back to sprinkling in here and there

595
00:30:01,600 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: and may not end up ultimately being active, you know,

596
00:30:04,760 --> 00:30:09,440
Speaker 1: unfortunately on some you know, in some situations, because they

597
00:30:09,440 --> 00:30:11,880
Speaker 1: can only you know, they can't have everybody active, and

598
00:30:11,920 --> 00:30:14,280
Speaker 1: if you're not a key special teamer, then you may

599
00:30:14,280 --> 00:30:16,960
Speaker 1: not be active on Sundays. So keep that in mind,

600
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Speaker 1: if you know. And James White, because Lewis is the

601
00:30:19,440 --> 00:30:21,880
Speaker 1: more dynamic player. White's good. White's a good receiver out

602
00:30:21,920 --> 00:30:24,160
Speaker 1: of the backfield, but Lewis is a better receiver out

603
00:30:24,200 --> 00:30:26,920
Speaker 1: of the backfield. Lewis is a guy who creates as well.

604
00:30:27,000 --> 00:30:29,040
Speaker 1: I talk about Marshawn Lynch and how good he was

605
00:30:29,080 --> 00:30:33,360
Speaker 1: at that, I mean Lewis was. Lewis forced a mistackle

606
00:30:33,440 --> 00:30:35,719
Speaker 1: on over fifty percent of his touches, which is an

607
00:30:35,880 --> 00:30:39,520
Speaker 1: unbelievable number. Now it was a small sample size last year,

608
00:30:39,800 --> 00:30:42,600
Speaker 1: but it just tells how good he was playing. You know,

609
00:30:42,680 --> 00:30:45,320
Speaker 1: typically with Marshawn Lynch, we would see him doing it

610
00:30:45,360 --> 00:30:48,320
Speaker 1: on a quarter of his touches, which is still off

611
00:30:48,440 --> 00:30:52,760
Speaker 1: the charts, and Lewis was double that, Like unbelievable. And

612
00:30:52,800 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: the fact of the matter that you know, we entered

613
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,000
Speaker 1: last year and we thought it would be okay, Well,

614
00:30:57,080 --> 00:30:58,920
Speaker 1: Lewis is going to be like Shane Vereen and then

615
00:30:59,000 --> 00:31:01,520
Speaker 1: la Garrett Blunt will be lag Garrett Blunt and he'll

616
00:31:01,560 --> 00:31:04,400
Speaker 1: be the early down and Lewis will be the receiving bat.

617
00:31:04,480 --> 00:31:06,920
Speaker 1: That's not what we saw though. They were giving Lewis

618
00:31:06,960 --> 00:31:10,040
Speaker 1: between the tackle carries on early downs and he was

619
00:31:10,080 --> 00:31:13,720
Speaker 1: doing a great job with them just because of the creativity.

620
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,120
Speaker 1: So that's what you can expect now. Unfortunately, that does

621
00:31:16,200 --> 00:31:19,480
Speaker 1: mean the la Garrett Blunt twenty plus Carrie games maybe

622
00:31:19,520 --> 00:31:23,520
Speaker 1: a bit fewer and farther between. Obviously you reserve for

623
00:31:23,560 --> 00:31:27,920
Speaker 1: the right matchups, but hey, if he's fully healthy, it's

624
00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:30,560
Speaker 1: hard to envision a scenario where he's not putting up

625
00:31:30,760 --> 00:31:33,920
Speaker 1: RB two numbers given his role in the passing game

626
00:31:33,960 --> 00:31:35,680
Speaker 1: and the fact that they are going to be willing

627
00:31:35,720 --> 00:31:38,640
Speaker 1: to give him early down work. So we both agree

628
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:41,880
Speaker 1: that the Patriots are are the best team in the

629
00:31:42,000 --> 00:31:45,240
Speaker 1: NFL right now with the best Super Bowl chances behind them.

630
00:31:45,280 --> 00:31:47,440
Speaker 1: I got the Cowboys and I got the Chiefs. Who

631
00:31:47,440 --> 00:31:52,200
Speaker 1: do you have in your top three? Wow? Yeah, that's

632
00:31:52,320 --> 00:31:56,520
Speaker 1: that's a tough one. So the Cowboys kind of baffle

633
00:31:56,600 --> 00:31:59,640
Speaker 1: me because I don't think there are six and one team,

634
00:31:59,640 --> 00:32:03,000
Speaker 1: but they keep proving me wrong. Offensively, we know they're great.

635
00:32:03,040 --> 00:32:05,680
Speaker 1: We know the offensive line is spectacular and the way

636
00:32:05,680 --> 00:32:08,400
Speaker 1: that Ezekiel Elliott is playing. I love I love the

637
00:32:08,440 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: fact that he can be elusive, but he can also

638
00:32:10,440 --> 00:32:12,760
Speaker 1: run to contact. It's just I just love the way

639
00:32:12,760 --> 00:32:17,320
Speaker 1: he plays football. He really is. Minnesota is going to

640
00:32:17,440 --> 00:32:20,400
Speaker 1: be in the top three for me. And of course

641
00:32:20,520 --> 00:32:23,560
Speaker 1: I say this before the Monday night football game. So

642
00:32:24,280 --> 00:32:27,160
Speaker 1: if I'm wrong, if they lose to the Bears, Okay,

643
00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:29,680
Speaker 1: well you're listening to this after the Monday and football game,

644
00:32:29,680 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 1: all right, fine, rag me on Twitter. But the defense

645
00:32:33,560 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: is really impressive and offensively, you know, they went from

646
00:32:38,440 --> 00:32:42,200
Speaker 1: a scenario that was almost a doomsday scenario losing Teddy

647
00:32:42,200 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: Bridgewater too, reviving Sam Bradford. It's pretty pretty remarkable. And

648
00:32:46,720 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: he's not a spectacular like fantasy option or anything. He

649
00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: just runs the offense. Well. So I like what they're

650
00:32:52,840 --> 00:32:55,400
Speaker 1: doing there. But I'm a sucker for good defenses, so

651
00:32:55,800 --> 00:32:59,160
Speaker 1: they're going to be there for me, and I really

652
00:33:00,040 --> 00:33:04,440
Speaker 1: think the Falcons have something special offensively. I don't think

653
00:33:04,440 --> 00:33:06,600
Speaker 1: the defense is where they want it to be, but

654
00:33:06,760 --> 00:33:09,680
Speaker 1: you're seeing some of these younger players stepping up. You

655
00:33:09,760 --> 00:33:13,200
Speaker 1: have Kean O'Neill, who's playing very good football at safety,

656
00:33:13,280 --> 00:33:18,560
Speaker 1: the two young linebackers Devandre Campbell, and Dion Jones, Vic

657
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:24,960
Speaker 1: Beasley kind of finding his way. And I like that

658
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:29,000
Speaker 1: Seattle coaching tree anyway, so I'm a little partial in them.

659
00:33:29,080 --> 00:33:31,440
Speaker 1: And what was really telling for me is this was

660
00:33:31,480 --> 00:33:34,080
Speaker 1: a team last year if they would have been down

661
00:33:34,200 --> 00:33:36,680
Speaker 1: like they were to the Packers, that would have been

662
00:33:36,720 --> 00:33:38,360
Speaker 1: in all right, Well, yeah we put some points on

663
00:33:38,440 --> 00:33:41,320
Speaker 1: the board, but we lost. Okay, done. No, they found

664
00:33:41,360 --> 00:33:43,800
Speaker 1: a way to win that game against the Packers team

665
00:33:43,880 --> 00:33:46,920
Speaker 1: that maybe they're not the Packers team from a couple

666
00:33:47,080 --> 00:33:49,040
Speaker 1: couple of years ago, but they're still a very good

667
00:33:49,120 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: football team and they are very good defense, especially against

668
00:33:52,120 --> 00:33:54,480
Speaker 1: the run, and they found a way to win that game.

669
00:33:54,520 --> 00:33:56,400
Speaker 1: And you're supposed to win at home, of course, but

670
00:33:56,600 --> 00:33:59,440
Speaker 1: they could have easily lost that and they didn't. That

671
00:33:59,560 --> 00:34:01,280
Speaker 1: was really telling from me. Now. I know they're five

672
00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:03,560
Speaker 1: and three and it doesn't really stand out, but they

673
00:34:03,640 --> 00:34:06,840
Speaker 1: have the offense to to really make a push. It

674
00:34:06,920 --> 00:34:09,719
Speaker 1: would be very interesting if it ended up being the

675
00:34:09,880 --> 00:34:13,759
Speaker 1: Falcons Cowboys or the Falcons Vikings. Especially any team that

676
00:34:13,800 --> 00:34:15,439
Speaker 1: has to go against the Vikings. I mean, you're gonna

677
00:34:15,440 --> 00:34:18,759
Speaker 1: have some problems putting points on the board. So I

678
00:34:18,880 --> 00:34:21,880
Speaker 1: think it's clear New England and then the NFC is

679
00:34:21,880 --> 00:34:23,760
Speaker 1: where it's at this year in terms of the intrigue.

680
00:34:24,280 --> 00:34:26,080
Speaker 1: You know one team I neglected to mention is the

681
00:34:26,120 --> 00:34:28,480
Speaker 1: Pittsburgh Steelers. You talk about an offense that can put

682
00:34:28,520 --> 00:34:30,959
Speaker 1: up points when Big Ben comes back with Levy on Belly,

683
00:34:30,960 --> 00:34:33,960
Speaker 1: Antonio Brown, I wouldn't be surprised if they just went

684
00:34:34,000 --> 00:34:36,200
Speaker 1: and outscored the Patriots in the playoffs. I'm not going

685
00:34:36,239 --> 00:34:38,239
Speaker 1: to bet on it by any means. The Patriots are

686
00:34:38,239 --> 00:34:40,839
Speaker 1: the favorite, but man, the Steelers with that offense, they

687
00:34:40,840 --> 00:34:43,920
Speaker 1: are dangerous. Yeah, And you know, here, here's something interesting

688
00:34:44,040 --> 00:34:45,880
Speaker 1: that I found today and it's just like an a

689
00:34:46,000 --> 00:34:48,399
Speaker 1: side here a little bit. But you talk about Levon Bell,

690
00:34:48,440 --> 00:34:51,560
Speaker 1: and I was going through targets because you know, I

691
00:34:51,680 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: was impressed with Theo Riddick and his workload in Week

692
00:34:54,640 --> 00:34:57,080
Speaker 1: eight and everything. And so he's third in the league

693
00:34:57,160 --> 00:35:00,200
Speaker 1: among running backs and targets. At PFF we scrub out

694
00:35:00,520 --> 00:35:02,680
Speaker 1: any sort of throwaways, so we have him at forty

695
00:35:02,719 --> 00:35:05,800
Speaker 1: two targets, Duke Johnson forty four, flying under the radar,

696
00:35:06,120 --> 00:35:10,680
Speaker 1: David Johnson fifty. But Levion Bell is tied with Giovanni

697
00:35:10,760 --> 00:35:14,840
Speaker 1: Bernard for fourth in targets. He's played half the amount

698
00:35:14,880 --> 00:35:18,880
Speaker 1: of games he has thirty six targets and four games played.

699
00:35:19,320 --> 00:35:24,280
Speaker 1: That is absolutely unbelievable production the volume that he sees.

700
00:35:24,520 --> 00:35:27,800
Speaker 1: It's it's just I love that volume. I'm a sucker

701
00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,480
Speaker 1: for volume when it comes to fantasy. And you're right,

702
00:35:30,560 --> 00:35:33,560
Speaker 1: I mean, they have the potency they're on offense if

703
00:35:33,640 --> 00:35:35,520
Speaker 1: they can get everything going in and if they can

704
00:35:35,520 --> 00:35:38,279
Speaker 1: get Ladarius Green on the field, because that would give

705
00:35:38,320 --> 00:35:41,640
Speaker 1: them that seam option that Jesse James is a you know,

706
00:35:41,719 --> 00:35:44,560
Speaker 1: he's kind of like a Jason Witten type player where

707
00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:46,320
Speaker 1: you know he can do some things, but he's not

708
00:35:46,360 --> 00:35:48,480
Speaker 1: going to run after the catch, and you know he's

709
00:35:48,560 --> 00:35:52,960
Speaker 1: decent enough receiver. But Ladarius Green is a dynamic guy

710
00:35:53,200 --> 00:35:58,040
Speaker 1: who has has some skills that just Jesse James doesn't have,

711
00:35:58,360 --> 00:36:01,000
Speaker 1: so be really interesting to see if he can finally

712
00:36:01,080 --> 00:36:03,399
Speaker 1: get on the field for this team. Jeff, I want

713
00:36:03,400 --> 00:36:04,960
Speaker 1: to wrap this up by talking about a couple of

714
00:36:05,000 --> 00:36:07,600
Speaker 1: wide receivers, two of them that are really high upside.

715
00:36:07,600 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: Tyreek Hill. He's been making all kinds of plays for

716
00:36:10,080 --> 00:36:12,440
Speaker 1: the Chiefs and he's been getting more more involved in

717
00:36:12,520 --> 00:36:14,319
Speaker 1: his offense. Another guy that's been getting more and more

718
00:36:14,360 --> 00:36:18,200
Speaker 1: involved is DGB Dorole Greenbeckham over there with the Philadelphia Eagles.

719
00:36:18,480 --> 00:36:21,200
Speaker 1: He's been getting four targets just about every game. Finally

720
00:36:21,280 --> 00:36:23,040
Speaker 1: that number jumped to nine this week, and we know

721
00:36:23,200 --> 00:36:26,399
Speaker 1: he's just oozing with rollability. So which of those two

722
00:36:26,480 --> 00:36:28,839
Speaker 1: guys would you prefer? Or would you prefer to pick

723
00:36:28,960 --> 00:36:32,560
Speaker 1: up a safer guy like a JJ Nelson at Russell Shephard, Well,

724
00:36:32,600 --> 00:36:36,479
Speaker 1: I don't know if JJ Nelson's safer, but he JJ

725
00:36:36,640 --> 00:36:38,440
Speaker 1: Nelson's the guy who's going to stand out for me

726
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:40,160
Speaker 1: this week when you look at the targets share, he

727
00:36:40,320 --> 00:36:43,360
Speaker 1: led the team in targets. He led the team in

728
00:36:43,520 --> 00:36:47,120
Speaker 1: wide receiver snaps as well. And I don't think you

729
00:36:47,200 --> 00:36:48,839
Speaker 1: know the genie's out of the bottle at this point.

730
00:36:48,880 --> 00:36:50,560
Speaker 1: You know, this is another one of those scenarios where

731
00:36:50,920 --> 00:36:52,840
Speaker 1: one week, okay, maybe it's a fluke, but this is

732
00:36:52,840 --> 00:36:55,120
Speaker 1: two weeks back to back that they're heavily using him

733
00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:59,160
Speaker 1: and he gives them what John Brown and Michael Floyd

734
00:36:59,200 --> 00:37:02,239
Speaker 1: are supposed to give that that field stretcher, that deep

735
00:37:02,600 --> 00:37:04,960
Speaker 1: deep ball ability that he has, so he would probably

736
00:37:05,040 --> 00:37:09,719
Speaker 1: be the first guy. Tyreek Hills interesting so only played

737
00:37:09,719 --> 00:37:13,719
Speaker 1: at the twenty one snaps this week, twelve and a

738
00:37:13,760 --> 00:37:16,560
Speaker 1: half percent of the targets is what he saw, so

739
00:37:16,680 --> 00:37:19,960
Speaker 1: he saw just the five targets. But he is so dynamic.

740
00:37:20,120 --> 00:37:23,279
Speaker 1: I think he's more of a deeper league guy. But

741
00:37:24,640 --> 00:37:27,640
Speaker 1: just the speed when you watch him play. I love

742
00:37:27,680 --> 00:37:31,520
Speaker 1: when you watch players who at the NFL level make

743
00:37:31,600 --> 00:37:33,680
Speaker 1: other players look like they're in slow motion, Like that

744
00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,480
Speaker 1: is saying something when when you have that that kind

745
00:37:36,520 --> 00:37:40,319
Speaker 1: of raw speed. So he's intriguing, but he I think

746
00:37:40,360 --> 00:37:42,719
Speaker 1: he would be a tick behind green Beckham. I'm not

747
00:37:42,960 --> 00:37:47,400
Speaker 1: excited about the Eagles offense. And this is a Philadelphian

748
00:37:48,280 --> 00:37:51,120
Speaker 1: saying this, so I paid close attention to the offense.

749
00:37:51,600 --> 00:37:54,520
Speaker 1: But the fact of the matter is they're not using

750
00:37:54,600 --> 00:37:56,800
Speaker 1: zach Ertz. You know, those targets are not going to

751
00:37:56,840 --> 00:38:00,400
Speaker 1: Earth's Earth's Mack maxed out at six targets was what

752
00:38:00,480 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: he had in week one. Four targets this week, so

753
00:38:03,960 --> 00:38:06,480
Speaker 1: he's not getting the targets. It's really Jordan Matthews and

754
00:38:06,560 --> 00:38:09,240
Speaker 1: then who else is going to step up? Nelson Aguilar

755
00:38:09,400 --> 00:38:13,920
Speaker 1: hasn't shown that ability. Green Beckham. He's gonna drop passes.

756
00:38:14,040 --> 00:38:18,160
Speaker 1: He dropped two of them last night, but he'd be

757
00:38:18,280 --> 00:38:20,640
Speaker 1: the guy. We know he has upside. We knew he

758
00:38:20,760 --> 00:38:22,520
Speaker 1: was gonna enter the league and be really raw, and

759
00:38:22,600 --> 00:38:24,840
Speaker 1: that's what he showed at Tennessee. But he has upside.

760
00:38:24,880 --> 00:38:27,239
Speaker 1: And this guy can be a red zone asset as well,

761
00:38:27,320 --> 00:38:30,399
Speaker 1: which is not something that Jordan Matthews. Jordan Matthews isn't

762
00:38:30,480 --> 00:38:33,000
Speaker 1: you know, a big He's in a big, bruising receiver.

763
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:36,960
Speaker 1: Green Beckham built like Calvin Johnson. He has that size

764
00:38:37,040 --> 00:38:40,000
Speaker 1: to him. He just doesn't play like Calvin Johnson or

765
00:38:40,000 --> 00:38:43,560
Speaker 1: anywhere remotely close. But I think this week it would

766
00:38:43,600 --> 00:38:47,000
Speaker 1: be jj Nelson would be my top guy, then DGB,

767
00:38:47,200 --> 00:38:49,200
Speaker 1: and then in deeper leagues, I'd be looking at guys

768
00:38:49,239 --> 00:38:52,719
Speaker 1: like Terry Killham. By the way, don't buy in to

769
00:38:52,960 --> 00:38:56,000
Speaker 1: Chris Hogan. I said this. I said, this is the

770
00:38:56,080 --> 00:38:59,480
Speaker 1: first time this happened. He doesn't see a lot of targets.

771
00:39:00,200 --> 00:39:03,760
Speaker 1: That production was on four targets, that's it, and volume

772
00:39:03,880 --> 00:39:06,840
Speaker 1: is king. He just doesn't see the targets. And you know,

773
00:39:06,920 --> 00:39:08,839
Speaker 1: we saw he goes over one hundred yards a couple

774
00:39:08,880 --> 00:39:10,600
Speaker 1: of weeks ago and then back to back duds and

775
00:39:10,680 --> 00:39:13,359
Speaker 1: then he has this game, but then easily it could

776
00:39:13,400 --> 00:39:15,600
Speaker 1: be more duds. He's so far down in the target

777
00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,799
Speaker 1: pecking order that i'd rather, you know, I'd rather look

778
00:39:19,840 --> 00:39:22,359
Speaker 1: at a guy like DGB, who is going to see

779
00:39:22,640 --> 00:39:25,960
Speaker 1: more volume for me. It's DGB. I'm just thinking about

780
00:39:26,040 --> 00:39:29,040
Speaker 1: playoff upside. Hopefully you're in the situation where you're already

781
00:39:29,080 --> 00:39:30,920
Speaker 1: thinking about the playoffs because you know you're gonna make

782
00:39:30,920 --> 00:39:33,759
Speaker 1: the playoffs, and I'm just looking for guys. I'm picking

783
00:39:33,840 --> 00:39:36,000
Speaker 1: up a Sammy Watkins. I might even pick up a

784
00:39:36,080 --> 00:39:38,279
Speaker 1: Kevin White because you know, I know my teams are

785
00:39:38,320 --> 00:39:41,480
Speaker 1: already at that stage, and I'm trying to look for

786
00:39:41,600 --> 00:39:44,120
Speaker 1: someone who's actually going to be above replacement level in

787
00:39:44,160 --> 00:39:46,600
Speaker 1: Week fifteen. I don't think that's going to be Russell Shephard.

788
00:39:46,600 --> 00:39:48,640
Speaker 1: I don't think that's gonna be Tyreek Hill. It could

789
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:51,080
Speaker 1: be Dorial Greenbeckham. So I'm picking him up, and if

790
00:39:51,080 --> 00:39:52,840
Speaker 1: it's not, then I just pick up Tyreek Hill or

791
00:39:52,960 --> 00:39:56,640
Speaker 1: someone very similar to him in Week fifteen when I'm

792
00:39:56,640 --> 00:39:59,879
Speaker 1: in the fantasy playoffs. So Dorial Green Beckham, who knows

793
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:01,880
Speaker 1: we might be talking about him as a top fifty

794
00:40:01,920 --> 00:40:06,920
Speaker 1: pick early next next summer. So um, the other guys

795
00:40:07,120 --> 00:40:09,839
Speaker 1: not a chance. They probably won't even be drafted. Yeah,

796
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:14,640
Speaker 1: his his arrow it's pointing up. We know, if everything,

797
00:40:14,680 --> 00:40:16,840
Speaker 1: if the stars aligned for this kid, he could be

798
00:40:16,960 --> 00:40:20,640
Speaker 1: something special. He isn't right now, but he certainly could be.

799
00:40:21,000 --> 00:40:23,719
Speaker 1: And uh, they have some young talent on that team,

800
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 1: so you know, I agree that he could. His uh

801
00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:30,279
Speaker 1: stock could be much higher next year as well. All right, Jeff,

802
00:40:30,320 --> 00:40:33,279
Speaker 1: final question streaming defenses. Who are you looking at this week?

803
00:40:34,000 --> 00:40:37,960
Speaker 1: Oh boy, gotta put me on the spot with streaming defenses. Um,

804
00:40:39,080 --> 00:40:44,000
Speaker 1: let's see, uh the I it's always tough when they're

805
00:40:44,080 --> 00:40:47,680
Speaker 1: there are six teams on buy. Uh, it's it's a

806
00:40:47,880 --> 00:40:53,439
Speaker 1: challenge to find those gold, those uh nuggets of gold there.

807
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,799
Speaker 1: But um, I don't know. I mean I might look

808
00:40:55,840 --> 00:40:59,239
Speaker 1: at the Saints, honestly if I because you're not gonna

809
00:40:59,239 --> 00:41:00,840
Speaker 1: have a lot of options on waivers and they go

810
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,919
Speaker 1: up against the forty nine ers, So for me, not bad.

811
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:08,000
Speaker 1: And there's talent on the Saints defense, I mean, you

812
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:10,600
Speaker 1: have a little talent there. Maybe they get Delvin Brow

813
00:41:10,719 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: back as well, so that could really help. I would

814
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:19,080
Speaker 1: look to potentially the Chargers going up against the Titans.

815
00:41:19,120 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: The Titans have been more efficient, but they can turn

816
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:25,160
Speaker 1: the ball over. Marcus Mariota does make some mistakes, so

817
00:41:25,400 --> 00:41:27,520
Speaker 1: those would probably be the two big ones. If the

818
00:41:27,640 --> 00:41:29,560
Speaker 1: Jets are out there as well. We know that Ryan

819
00:41:29,640 --> 00:41:33,200
Speaker 1: Tannehill makes mistakes as well, but hey, maybe they give

820
00:41:33,360 --> 00:41:37,279
Speaker 1: forty carries to Jagi, who knows. They're obviously going to

821
00:41:37,400 --> 00:41:39,520
Speaker 1: ride that as much as they possibly can. But I

822
00:41:39,560 --> 00:41:41,480
Speaker 1: guess those would probably be the two, and they're not

823
00:41:41,640 --> 00:41:44,959
Speaker 1: really appealing options. Hopefully you have a better option, maybe

824
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:47,640
Speaker 1: Dallas if they're out there as well. But Josh McCown

825
00:41:48,760 --> 00:41:50,759
Speaker 1: really changes things for the Browns are not as much

826
00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:53,279
Speaker 1: of a pushover matchup as they as they were, so really,

827
00:41:53,320 --> 00:41:56,279
Speaker 1: I guess the Saints and Chargers, Oh boy, it's this

828
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:59,160
Speaker 1: a rough week. I like the Saints called I really

829
00:41:59,239 --> 00:42:01,359
Speaker 1: like anyone against Kaepernick because he turns the ball over

830
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:03,719
Speaker 1: so much. But someone who turns the ball over a

831
00:42:03,880 --> 00:42:06,840
Speaker 1: lot more than Kaepernick, and that is really saying something

832
00:42:07,480 --> 00:42:10,640
Speaker 1: is Landry Jones. Man. This guy throws so many picks,

833
00:42:11,440 --> 00:42:14,000
Speaker 1: and so I'm picking up Baltimore at home. Thrown in

834
00:42:14,080 --> 00:42:16,400
Speaker 1: thirty one percent of Yahoo leagues, and look, I know

835
00:42:16,440 --> 00:42:18,520
Speaker 1: they've got Levan Bell and Antonio Brown, so they're probably

836
00:42:18,560 --> 00:42:21,280
Speaker 1: gonna score twenty plus points. But we're looking for turnovers,

837
00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,799
Speaker 1: and turnovers could lead to touchdowns. And Landry Jones, man,

838
00:42:25,320 --> 00:42:27,560
Speaker 1: he's gonna throw three or four picks. That's just what

839
00:42:27,640 --> 00:42:30,560
Speaker 1: he does. He threw four picks in one preseason game

840
00:42:30,800 --> 00:42:32,920
Speaker 1: and that wasn't just a fluke. I mean, he throws

841
00:42:32,960 --> 00:42:34,799
Speaker 1: a lot of picks and he fumbles a lot too,

842
00:42:35,239 --> 00:42:38,480
Speaker 1: so I'm picking on him. I'm going with Baltimore, all right, Jeff, Well,

843
00:42:38,480 --> 00:42:40,440
Speaker 1: that's all the questions we have for you. Really appreciate

844
00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:42,080
Speaker 1: you coming on the show again and I hope you

845
00:42:42,120 --> 00:42:44,600
Speaker 1: have a great week. You too, my man. Always happy

846
00:42:44,600 --> 00:42:47,879
Speaker 1: to do it. Enjoy the rest of your season. It's

847
00:42:47,920 --> 00:42:50,919
Speaker 1: our pleasure to take care for those of you listening.

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