1 00:00:02,400 --> 00:00:03,000 Speaker 1: Good morning. 2 00:00:03,120 --> 00:00:05,880 Speaker 2: I'm Brian Curtiz and I'm Doug Prisner. Here are the 3 00:00:05,920 --> 00:00:07,360 Speaker 2: stories we're following today. 4 00:00:07,800 --> 00:00:11,560 Speaker 1: US bank stocks fell after Moodies downgraded ten small and 5 00:00:11,600 --> 00:00:14,760 Speaker 1: medium sized American lenders, and it said that it might 6 00:00:14,800 --> 00:00:17,480 Speaker 1: do the same with a handful of major firms. But 7 00:00:17,640 --> 00:00:21,680 Speaker 1: he said that higher funding costs, potential regulatory capital weaknesses, 8 00:00:22,160 --> 00:00:26,040 Speaker 1: and rising risks tied to commercial real estate are all 9 00:00:26,120 --> 00:00:29,400 Speaker 1: strains that are prompting the review. Now we heard from 10 00:00:29,480 --> 00:00:32,960 Speaker 1: Richard Beauvet at odeon Capital. He said the move came 11 00:00:33,080 --> 00:00:34,080 Speaker 1: late for Moodies. 12 00:00:34,280 --> 00:00:36,920 Speaker 3: I think that when the second quarter earnings came out, 13 00:00:37,280 --> 00:00:40,159 Speaker 3: it was evident that the banking industry was suffering. And 14 00:00:40,200 --> 00:00:43,400 Speaker 3: the reason why it was suffering is because basically, as 15 00:00:43,520 --> 00:00:46,320 Speaker 3: interest rates go up, and this sounds stupid to say, 16 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,760 Speaker 3: the value of financial assets go down. And if he 17 00:00:49,840 --> 00:00:51,559 Speaker 3: took a look at the balance sheet of each one 18 00:00:51,560 --> 00:00:54,520 Speaker 3: of these banks, the value of their financial assets were 19 00:00:54,520 --> 00:00:57,720 Speaker 3: going down very, very sharply. That meant that the industry 20 00:00:57,920 --> 00:00:58,520 Speaker 3: was in trouble. 21 00:01:00,000 --> 00:01:03,160 Speaker 1: Declined for firms that had their ratings cut, including M 22 00:01:03,240 --> 00:01:06,200 Speaker 1: and T Bank closing down one point four percent, and 23 00:01:06,280 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: also the KBW Regional Bank Index was down one point 24 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:10,920 Speaker 1: four percent. 25 00:01:11,080 --> 00:01:14,080 Speaker 2: We got a surprise earnings report after the bell today 26 00:01:14,120 --> 00:01:17,440 Speaker 2: from the nation's number two ride hailing service. That story 27 00:01:17,440 --> 00:01:18,920 Speaker 2: from Bloomberg's tom Busby. 28 00:01:19,280 --> 00:01:22,240 Speaker 4: Everything seemed to align for Lift last quarter, which had 29 00:01:22,280 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 4: been struggling to bounce back from the pandemic lockdowns and 30 00:01:24,880 --> 00:01:28,160 Speaker 4: a shortage of drivers. But recent costcuding measure seemed to 31 00:01:28,200 --> 00:01:31,720 Speaker 4: have worked and lower fare prices drew back more writers 32 00:01:31,760 --> 00:01:34,679 Speaker 4: to the service that helped Lift beat Wall Street estimates 33 00:01:34,680 --> 00:01:37,440 Speaker 4: and even raise its outlook for the current quarter. Revenue 34 00:01:37,440 --> 00:01:40,200 Speaker 4: for the second quarter just over one billion dollars, where 35 00:01:40,280 --> 00:01:43,280 Speaker 4: earnings coming in at sixteen cents a share. Analysts were 36 00:01:43,319 --> 00:01:46,880 Speaker 4: expecting a loss of one cent per share. Shares of 37 00:01:46,920 --> 00:01:50,320 Speaker 4: Lyft soaring in after hours trading tom Busby Bloomberg day 38 00:01:50,320 --> 00:01:51,600 Speaker 4: Break Asia. 39 00:01:51,720 --> 00:01:54,360 Speaker 1: Actually there was a quick change in after hours and 40 00:01:54,400 --> 00:01:58,000 Speaker 1: Lift shares and now down five point eight percent. Rivia 41 00:01:58,080 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: nudged up on its production guide guidance for the year 42 00:02:01,040 --> 00:02:04,440 Speaker 1: and narrowed its loss expectation. This comes after the company 43 00:02:04,520 --> 00:02:08,040 Speaker 1: narrowly missed its production target last year it grappled with 44 00:02:08,120 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: supply constraints and rising competition. Rivian cited an improved supply 45 00:02:12,600 --> 00:02:15,920 Speaker 1: chain outlook for its revised expectations, we get the story 46 00:02:15,960 --> 00:02:17,359 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg's Ed Ludlow. 47 00:02:17,720 --> 00:02:20,560 Speaker 5: They raised guidance modestly for the year by two thousand 48 00:02:20,720 --> 00:02:24,679 Speaker 5: units fifty two thousand evs across their two consumer vehicles 49 00:02:24,680 --> 00:02:27,080 Speaker 5: and the van that they build for Amazon. I reported 50 00:02:27,080 --> 00:02:30,160 Speaker 5: earlier in the year that Rivian executive had told staff 51 00:02:30,200 --> 00:02:33,520 Speaker 5: that actually their plan is to build sixty two thousand. 52 00:02:33,880 --> 00:02:36,520 Speaker 5: But what's interesting about this print is that they are 53 00:02:36,600 --> 00:02:38,880 Speaker 5: showing the benefits of scaling up. 54 00:02:39,240 --> 00:02:43,160 Speaker 1: And that's Ed Ludlow. Separately, Rivian reported second quarter earnings 55 00:02:43,200 --> 00:02:47,120 Speaker 1: that beat analyst expectations, and the shares currently are up 56 00:02:47,160 --> 00:02:48,360 Speaker 1: one point three percent. 57 00:02:48,480 --> 00:02:51,600 Speaker 2: In late trading, we Work said there is substantial doubt 58 00:02:51,800 --> 00:02:55,640 Speaker 2: about its ability to continue operating. The company cited sustained 59 00:02:55,680 --> 00:02:59,520 Speaker 2: losses along with canceled memberships for its office spaces. Now, 60 00:02:59,560 --> 00:03:01,640 Speaker 2: we Work is going to focus over the next year 61 00:03:01,760 --> 00:03:07,840 Speaker 2: on reducing rental cost, negotiating more favorable leases, and increasing revenue. 62 00:03:07,840 --> 00:03:09,680 Speaker 2: The company also wants to raise a little bit of 63 00:03:09,720 --> 00:03:13,200 Speaker 2: capital now. This warning comes just months after we Work 64 00:03:13,240 --> 00:03:16,120 Speaker 2: struck a deal with some of its biggest creditors and 65 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,320 Speaker 2: soft Bank to reduce its debt load by around one 66 00:03:19,360 --> 00:03:22,560 Speaker 2: point five billion dollars. We Work shares are down in 67 00:03:22,639 --> 00:03:23,200 Speaker 2: late trading. 68 00:03:23,240 --> 00:03:27,720 Speaker 1: Brian Well, Chinese developer Country Gardens stock and bonds plunged 69 00:03:27,800 --> 00:03:31,399 Speaker 1: as noteholders said that they had not yet received coupon payments. 70 00:03:31,600 --> 00:03:33,960 Speaker 1: Bloomberg's Bonnieau has more from Hong Kong. 71 00:03:34,280 --> 00:03:36,880 Speaker 6: The noteholders said they had not received payments as of 72 00:03:36,960 --> 00:03:40,440 Speaker 6: yesterday afternoon. Data showed the company owned ten point five 73 00:03:40,480 --> 00:03:42,840 Speaker 6: million dollars of interest on a dollar bond that matures 74 00:03:42,880 --> 00:03:45,600 Speaker 6: in twenty twenty six, and that are twelve million dollars 75 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:48,560 Speaker 6: is due on a note maturing in twenty thirty. In 76 00:03:48,560 --> 00:03:51,880 Speaker 6: a statement, Country Garden set a deterioration in seals and 77 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,880 Speaker 6: a refinancing environment has hurt us cash flow. Country Garden 78 00:03:55,920 --> 00:03:58,880 Speaker 6: is one of the few major Chinese developers yet to default, 79 00:03:59,000 --> 00:04:02,160 Speaker 6: and a failure to pay were pummel market confidence. The 80 00:04:02,200 --> 00:04:04,800 Speaker 6: builder is facing more than two billion dollars of bond 81 00:04:04,840 --> 00:04:07,560 Speaker 6: payments over the rest of this year in Hong Kong. 82 00:04:07,600 --> 00:04:10,200 Speaker 6: I'm Bonnie Al Bloomberg Daybreak Asia, A. 83 00:04:10,120 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: Couple of other stories will be looking at China says 84 00:04:13,000 --> 00:04:16,760 Speaker 1: it's Europe's own fault for the soaring trade deficit. 85 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,159 Speaker 7: With Beijing. 86 00:04:18,560 --> 00:04:20,960 Speaker 1: China says that it wants to buy more high tech 87 00:04:21,040 --> 00:04:25,240 Speaker 1: goods but cannot. And also we had the weak China 88 00:04:25,320 --> 00:04:29,320 Speaker 1: export and import numbers yesterday, Doug. And it turns out 89 00:04:29,320 --> 00:04:32,040 Speaker 1: that the US is now buying more goods from Mexico 90 00:04:32,120 --> 00:04:35,400 Speaker 1: and Canada than from China. The US buying twenty five 91 00:04:35,440 --> 00:04:38,080 Speaker 1: percent less in the first half of this year than 92 00:04:38,160 --> 00:04:41,520 Speaker 1: last year in terms of the value of goods. And 93 00:04:41,600 --> 00:04:45,320 Speaker 1: added to that, Taiwan's trade surplus surging to a record high. 94 00:04:45,400 --> 00:04:47,240 Speaker 1: So a lot's happening on the trade front. 95 00:04:47,320 --> 00:04:49,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, we knew, Brian that the US was planning at 96 00:04:49,440 --> 00:04:52,440 Speaker 2: some point to restrict investment in China. Well, now we're 97 00:04:52,480 --> 00:04:56,120 Speaker 2: being told that the restrictions will likely apply only to 98 00:04:56,240 --> 00:04:59,080 Speaker 2: Chinese companies that get at least half of their revenue 99 00:04:59,080 --> 00:05:03,280 Speaker 2: from cutting A areas like quantum computing and artificial intelligence. 100 00:05:03,560 --> 00:05:05,320 Speaker 2: One source is a part of the story, which you 101 00:05:05,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 2: can find on the Bloomberg terminal incidentally said that this order, 102 00:05:08,839 --> 00:05:11,320 Speaker 2: expected to be announced in the coming days by the 103 00:05:11,320 --> 00:05:16,159 Speaker 2: Biden administration, is going to prohibit investment in AI for 104 00:05:16,360 --> 00:05:21,520 Speaker 2: military end users. Notification will be required for investments in 105 00:05:21,600 --> 00:05:22,880 Speaker 2: other AI activities. 106 00:05:23,200 --> 00:05:26,279 Speaker 1: Yeah, there's so much tension between the two. It's a 107 00:05:26,279 --> 00:05:28,960 Speaker 1: little more than this pull back on it, and the 108 00:05:28,960 --> 00:05:31,880 Speaker 1: headline in all the paper is today in Hong Kong 109 00:05:31,920 --> 00:05:35,160 Speaker 1: and likely in China as well, will be things like 110 00:05:35,240 --> 00:05:39,600 Speaker 1: de risking and re shoring, shipping away at China's trade picture, 111 00:05:39,760 --> 00:05:43,400 Speaker 1: chipping away at China's exports. So we'll be covering that 112 00:05:43,880 --> 00:05:47,039 Speaker 1: in greater detail all throughout the program. Now it's time 113 00:05:47,080 --> 00:05:52,320 Speaker 1: for Global News. Well, let's get right over to Ed Baxter. 114 00:05:52,480 --> 00:05:55,400 Speaker 1: We are looking at China no longer the US's largest 115 00:05:55,400 --> 00:05:58,840 Speaker 1: importer of goods, which I just headlined there. Ed Baxter 116 00:05:58,880 --> 00:06:00,640 Speaker 1: has more from San Franceancisco a ed. 117 00:06:00,920 --> 00:06:03,480 Speaker 8: Yeah, let's detail it out, Brian, China now sells fewer 118 00:06:03,520 --> 00:06:06,760 Speaker 8: goods of the US and Mexico or Canada. Bloomberg Emerging 119 00:06:06,760 --> 00:06:10,200 Speaker 8: Markets correspondent Sherry On says the US imported about twenty 120 00:06:10,200 --> 00:06:13,200 Speaker 8: five percent year to year less from China the first 121 00:06:13,200 --> 00:06:14,640 Speaker 8: six months of the year. 122 00:06:14,720 --> 00:06:19,920 Speaker 7: According to analysts, perhaps a supply chain diversification is working 123 00:06:19,960 --> 00:06:24,159 Speaker 7: against China. I had an emergen markets analyst from Delta saying, 124 00:06:24,360 --> 00:06:26,960 Speaker 7: you know what, Mexico is a more interesting story because 125 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,320 Speaker 7: the realignment of supply chains is already happening that way, 126 00:06:30,720 --> 00:06:34,240 Speaker 7: especially with those trade tensions, geopolitics being an issue and 127 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,080 Speaker 7: the economic recovery slumping. 128 00:06:36,480 --> 00:06:38,880 Speaker 8: Now goods from Mexico in the same period we're up 129 00:06:38,920 --> 00:06:42,919 Speaker 8: five point four percent, so for the US trade partners 130 00:06:42,920 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 8: now Mexico, Canada, China, Germany and Japan. The former co 131 00:06:47,720 --> 00:06:51,560 Speaker 8: CEO of FDx, Ryan Salem, as the negotiations with prosecutors, 132 00:06:51,600 --> 00:06:56,159 Speaker 8: reportedly to plead guilty to criminal charges. Sources are saying 133 00:06:56,200 --> 00:06:58,599 Speaker 8: that the Republican mega donor may enter a plea as 134 00:06:58,640 --> 00:07:03,159 Speaker 8: soon as next month that may include campaign finance law violations. 135 00:07:03,600 --> 00:07:07,679 Speaker 8: Bloomberg's Ava Barry Morrison says this has been a long 136 00:07:07,800 --> 00:07:08,800 Speaker 8: time in coming. 137 00:07:09,000 --> 00:07:12,800 Speaker 9: Ryan Salem had a bit of an insight into the 138 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:17,360 Speaker 9: political fun sorry political donation side of STX, so I 139 00:07:17,360 --> 00:07:19,600 Speaker 9: think it took them a long time to get information 140 00:07:19,640 --> 00:07:22,000 Speaker 9: about what he was involved in, cross checked out with 141 00:07:22,040 --> 00:07:22,920 Speaker 9: other people as well. 142 00:07:23,080 --> 00:07:26,760 Speaker 8: Aft Exit made donations to both Republicans and Democrats. At 143 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 8: this point, it is unclear whether he will enter into 144 00:07:29,000 --> 00:07:32,800 Speaker 8: cooperation deal to testify against co founder Sam Bankman freed. 145 00:07:33,920 --> 00:07:38,160 Speaker 8: July now officially the Earth's hottest month on record, taking 146 00:07:38,160 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 8: that record away from a year earlier July, the average 147 00:07:41,680 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 8: temperatures hit Paris cap of one point five celsius during 148 00:07:46,280 --> 00:07:49,320 Speaker 8: that was covered in the Accord. Now, the Arctic sea 149 00:07:49,440 --> 00:07:53,720 Speaker 8: ice dropped fifteen percent below average. It is the lowest 150 00:07:53,800 --> 00:07:58,600 Speaker 8: level since satellite observations began. The EU of Copernicus Climate 151 00:07:58,680 --> 00:08:02,000 Speaker 8: Change Service is warning of dire consequences if the trend 152 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,640 Speaker 8: is not reversed. Ron Decantas has brought in a new 153 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:09,840 Speaker 8: campaign manager in Bloomberg's Wendy Benjaminson says, James Uthmeyer has 154 00:08:09,880 --> 00:08:13,120 Speaker 8: served as chief of staff and dessentis Governor's office. 155 00:08:12,800 --> 00:08:17,080 Speaker 10: But has never run a presidential campaign before. And there 156 00:08:17,080 --> 00:08:19,400 Speaker 10: are lots of people in this town who have run 157 00:08:19,480 --> 00:08:23,720 Speaker 10: presidential campaigns. But he so keeps so closely to the 158 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 10: people he knows and trusts that he's putting inexperienced people 159 00:08:27,760 --> 00:08:28,400 Speaker 10: in charge. 160 00:08:28,680 --> 00:08:32,760 Speaker 8: Detractors say, insulating himself with cronies from Florida. This follows 161 00:08:32,800 --> 00:08:35,160 Speaker 8: a string of layoffs and strategy ships, same to the 162 00:08:35,160 --> 00:08:39,280 Speaker 8: addressing declining polling numbers. State leaders in Maryland are surveying 163 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 8: the damage from yesterday's major storm activity. A stretch of 164 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,560 Speaker 8: highway had a row of utility poles lining it and 165 00:08:45,640 --> 00:08:48,440 Speaker 8: forty seven people trapped inside their cars because of it. 166 00:08:48,840 --> 00:08:51,760 Speaker 8: Governor Wes Moore says they were all rescued, but sections 167 00:08:51,760 --> 00:08:53,079 Speaker 8: of the state are thrashing. 168 00:08:53,200 --> 00:08:54,640 Speaker 11: This is going to take some time to fix. 169 00:08:55,480 --> 00:08:57,559 Speaker 6: The damage from last night is significant. 170 00:08:57,960 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 8: The authorities say most of the remaining customer with our 171 00:09:00,559 --> 00:09:04,719 Speaker 8: power will be restored by tomorrow night. Global newspower by 172 00:09:04,720 --> 00:09:07,280 Speaker 8: more than twenty seven hundred journalist and analysts in over 173 00:09:07,320 --> 00:09:10,480 Speaker 8: one hundred twenty countries in San Francisco. I'm Ed Baxter, 174 00:09:10,600 --> 00:09:12,280 Speaker 8: and this is Bloomberg. 175 00:09:12,880 --> 00:09:15,679 Speaker 1: This is Bloomberg Daybreak Asia. I'm Brian Curtis here in 176 00:09:15,720 --> 00:09:18,400 Speaker 1: Hong Kong along with Rashad so I'm not in London. 177 00:09:18,640 --> 00:09:21,600 Speaker 1: A flash here across the Bloomberg terminal. Amazon is in 178 00:09:21,720 --> 00:09:25,840 Speaker 1: talks to be an anchor investor in the arm IPO, 179 00:09:26,200 --> 00:09:28,520 Speaker 1: So that is the unit of SoftBank that's coming to 180 00:09:28,559 --> 00:09:31,800 Speaker 1: market we think quite soon. And that, of course, or 181 00:09:31,840 --> 00:09:35,040 Speaker 1: this story here from Reuters, So we'll get you details 182 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,760 Speaker 1: on that as much as we can. Going forward. Let's 183 00:09:37,760 --> 00:09:41,240 Speaker 1: get to our guest, Sarah Ponzak, Vice President UBS Private 184 00:09:41,320 --> 00:09:45,600 Speaker 1: Wealth Management. Well, I mentioned that we did see we 185 00:09:45,640 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: did see some losses on Wall Street today but they 186 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:51,360 Speaker 1: were not as bad so as to take away the 187 00:09:51,400 --> 00:09:53,800 Speaker 1: games we saw yesterday. And we also had the dip 188 00:09:53,840 --> 00:09:56,400 Speaker 1: buyers kind of entering the frame today. So I'm not 189 00:09:56,520 --> 00:09:59,200 Speaker 1: sure how to frame the action today, but it seems 190 00:09:59,240 --> 00:10:02,320 Speaker 1: a little more negative then perhaps the way I've just 191 00:10:02,360 --> 00:10:04,400 Speaker 1: put it, Sarah, your thoughts on the action today. 192 00:10:04,640 --> 00:10:06,800 Speaker 12: I think we have to put it in context of 193 00:10:06,920 --> 00:10:09,920 Speaker 12: the pretty unbelievable year that we've seen for stocks so far. 194 00:10:10,480 --> 00:10:12,880 Speaker 12: You know, through July, the for seven months of the year, 195 00:10:13,480 --> 00:10:16,040 Speaker 12: the S and P five hundred was up about twenty percent. 196 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:18,480 Speaker 12: That was the best start to a year in the 197 00:10:18,520 --> 00:10:23,479 Speaker 12: first seven months since nineteen ninety seven, so pretty phenomenal. 198 00:10:23,640 --> 00:10:26,000 Speaker 12: And when you think about the shift that we saw 199 00:10:26,040 --> 00:10:28,760 Speaker 12: from last year through the beginning of the year through 200 00:10:28,760 --> 00:10:31,440 Speaker 12: the middle of twenty twenty three, it's really been this 201 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,280 Speaker 12: change in perception of the assumption and the expectation that 202 00:10:35,320 --> 00:10:38,320 Speaker 12: we're going to fall into a recession to you know, 203 00:10:38,400 --> 00:10:41,200 Speaker 12: everyone kind of now believing and the consensus being that 204 00:10:41,240 --> 00:10:43,800 Speaker 12: we're going to have a soft landing. So when we 205 00:10:43,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 12: think about these past couple of months, you think about 206 00:10:45,800 --> 00:10:51,200 Speaker 12: that shift to you know, investors, economists throwing away that 207 00:10:51,280 --> 00:10:54,600 Speaker 12: recession call now believing in a soft landing. They're really 208 00:10:54,600 --> 00:10:58,120 Speaker 12: not being much negative news over the course of the summer, 209 00:10:58,520 --> 00:11:00,640 Speaker 12: to all of a sudden, a weekly last week in 210 00:11:00,720 --> 00:11:03,520 Speaker 12: which we get the Fitch downgrade of US sovereign debt 211 00:11:03,920 --> 00:11:05,520 Speaker 12: and then a day like today in which you have 212 00:11:05,600 --> 00:11:10,440 Speaker 12: the Moody's downgrade of regional banks. It's just negative news 213 00:11:10,440 --> 00:11:13,640 Speaker 12: in this stock market world in which there really hasn't 214 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:16,920 Speaker 12: much been much negative news. So it's healthy to see, 215 00:11:16,920 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 12: you know, some volatility on the negative news. And if anything, 216 00:11:20,559 --> 00:11:23,040 Speaker 12: it seems complacency is more so a risk at this 217 00:11:23,080 --> 00:11:23,480 Speaker 12: point in. 218 00:11:23,440 --> 00:11:26,560 Speaker 11: Time, complacency in being the watchword, Sarah, given that we 219 00:11:26,600 --> 00:11:29,400 Speaker 11: saw the S and B banking index after those downgrades 220 00:11:29,400 --> 00:11:33,679 Speaker 11: from moody is sending the banking index absolutely to the 221 00:11:33,720 --> 00:11:36,720 Speaker 11: floor and then a recovery, a massive recovery to just 222 00:11:36,760 --> 00:11:39,280 Speaker 11: be just off the the gain line, as it were. 223 00:11:39,760 --> 00:11:42,960 Speaker 11: Should people be worried. It does portend for of course, 224 00:11:43,320 --> 00:11:47,719 Speaker 11: more liquidity tightening and loans which would not be given out, 225 00:11:47,760 --> 00:11:49,760 Speaker 11: which are all going to do the Fed's job in 226 00:11:49,800 --> 00:11:51,760 Speaker 11: some ways or amplify what the Fed's doing. 227 00:11:52,120 --> 00:11:56,480 Speaker 12: Right, So it's interesting to see that whereas heading into 228 00:11:56,480 --> 00:12:00,319 Speaker 12: the year Originally, you know, the impetus for investment was 229 00:12:00,640 --> 00:12:03,720 Speaker 12: more so to fade gains, believing that they wouldn't be sustained. 230 00:12:04,040 --> 00:12:06,640 Speaker 12: And how quickly that has changed, you know, in the 231 00:12:06,640 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 12: face of fomo fear of missing out, to dip buying 232 00:12:09,840 --> 00:12:13,640 Speaker 12: whenever we do see some type of downdraft in the market, 233 00:12:13,960 --> 00:12:16,679 Speaker 12: because you know, some people now believe that we are 234 00:12:16,720 --> 00:12:19,319 Speaker 12: going to see you know, further gains and if they 235 00:12:19,360 --> 00:12:21,120 Speaker 12: sold and went to cast at the beginning of the year, 236 00:12:21,400 --> 00:12:23,880 Speaker 12: it's a difficult position to be and you feel as 237 00:12:23,880 --> 00:12:26,360 Speaker 12: that you need to get in at some point in time. 238 00:12:26,440 --> 00:12:29,240 Speaker 12: So we do see this impetus of dip buying now. 239 00:12:29,480 --> 00:12:32,720 Speaker 12: But when we think about, you know, the larger ramifications 240 00:12:32,760 --> 00:12:34,520 Speaker 12: of the downgrades that we did see from Moodies on 241 00:12:34,559 --> 00:12:38,560 Speaker 12: some of those regional banks, this is not entirely new news. 242 00:12:39,200 --> 00:12:43,280 Speaker 12: You know, we have been listening to and thinking about 243 00:12:43,360 --> 00:12:46,600 Speaker 12: what is going on in the banking system for months 244 00:12:46,640 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 12: now after what we saw with you know, a couple 245 00:12:49,400 --> 00:12:54,200 Speaker 12: regional bank failures, and again this sheds more light and 246 00:12:54,280 --> 00:12:58,040 Speaker 12: it does bring focus back to the fact that you know, 247 00:12:58,160 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 12: the fallout that we saw with a few regional banks. 248 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:04,240 Speaker 12: It's very possible. It's not over. There could be more 249 00:13:04,280 --> 00:13:08,280 Speaker 12: dominoes to fall, and we need to take you know, 250 00:13:08,520 --> 00:13:10,760 Speaker 12: we need to take stock of that when we think 251 00:13:10,800 --> 00:13:15,600 Speaker 12: about the overall US banking system. But really, all in all, 252 00:13:15,760 --> 00:13:17,680 Speaker 12: this isn't necessarily new news. 253 00:13:18,360 --> 00:13:23,520 Speaker 1: Yeah, in terms of well, I imagine you know you 254 00:13:23,600 --> 00:13:26,760 Speaker 1: have some contact with high net worth individuals. I'm curious 255 00:13:26,800 --> 00:13:29,840 Speaker 1: whether or not they're talking more about diversification now rather 256 00:13:29,880 --> 00:13:32,560 Speaker 1: than riding the gains that we saw in the first part. 257 00:13:32,559 --> 00:13:35,360 Speaker 1: And if so, what are they diversifying into they. 258 00:13:35,280 --> 00:13:39,000 Speaker 12: Are I actually had a conversation with a high networth 259 00:13:39,040 --> 00:13:43,400 Speaker 12: client individual today who was asking, Okay, you know, should 260 00:13:43,440 --> 00:13:46,880 Speaker 12: we be diversifying out of some of these high flying, 261 00:13:47,080 --> 00:13:51,160 Speaker 12: big tech names that have really driven the gains this year? 262 00:13:51,559 --> 00:13:57,800 Speaker 12: And our response was yes, especially if you have more 263 00:13:57,920 --> 00:14:00,600 Speaker 12: exposure to some of these names that have just led 264 00:14:00,640 --> 00:14:03,880 Speaker 12: the way this year been even the index, then yes 265 00:14:03,880 --> 00:14:06,080 Speaker 12: it could. It could take sense to take some chips 266 00:14:06,080 --> 00:14:09,200 Speaker 12: off the table and diversify those gains a bit. So 267 00:14:09,240 --> 00:14:12,760 Speaker 12: what we've been saying, ubs' chief investment office has really 268 00:14:13,080 --> 00:14:15,520 Speaker 12: been pounding the table on two key themes, one of 269 00:14:15,559 --> 00:14:18,440 Speaker 12: them being you know, if you missed out on the 270 00:14:18,480 --> 00:14:22,440 Speaker 12: gains this year, or if you are not diversified, if 271 00:14:22,440 --> 00:14:24,720 Speaker 12: you have a significant amount of capital tied up in 272 00:14:24,840 --> 00:14:27,280 Speaker 12: just a few big tech names, maybe it does make 273 00:14:27,280 --> 00:14:30,240 Speaker 12: sense to now look to the laggards, look to value, 274 00:14:30,320 --> 00:14:32,800 Speaker 12: look to more defensive areas of the market. Maybe look 275 00:14:32,880 --> 00:14:34,760 Speaker 12: to an equal weight version of the S and P 276 00:14:34,880 --> 00:14:37,680 Speaker 12: five hundred and we have seen this broadening out over 277 00:14:37,720 --> 00:14:39,920 Speaker 12: the past month or so. You know, you look at 278 00:14:40,000 --> 00:14:43,240 Speaker 12: value stocks, you look at small caps. It has happened. 279 00:14:43,480 --> 00:14:45,680 Speaker 1: It definitely has happened, Sharon. We have noted it on 280 00:14:45,680 --> 00:14:48,520 Speaker 1: this program quite a lot. To RSP is one ETF 281 00:14:48,520 --> 00:14:51,360 Speaker 1: that one can look at for the equal weight. We 282 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:55,120 Speaker 1: enjoyed the conversation, Sharah. Thank you. Sarah Ponzak, Vice President 283 00:14:55,240 --> 00:15:00,400 Speaker 1: UBS Private Wealth Management. 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