WEBVTT - Clay Travis sits down with Rachel Bonnetta

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<v Speaker 1>This is Wins and Losses with Clay Trevis. Play talks

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<v Speaker 1>with the most entertaining people in sports, entertainment and business.

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<v Speaker 1>Now here's Clay Trevis. Welcome in weekly podcast Wins and Losses.

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<v Speaker 1>I hope you guys are enjoying this series. We are

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<v Speaker 1>having a lot of fun. If you're enjoying it, go

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<v Speaker 1>give us a five star rating and make fun of

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<v Speaker 1>our most recent guest, Joel Klatt. You can also make

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<v Speaker 1>fun of our current guest, Rachel Bonetta at Rachel Getta

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<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. She is already there and we are ready

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<v Speaker 1>to roll. You can watch her on lock it In

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<v Speaker 1>every single weekday Monday to Friday, now that we're into

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<v Speaker 1>season two, from at four thirty Eastern, three thirty Central

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<v Speaker 1>to thirty Mountain one thirty Pacific. We are on for

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<v Speaker 1>an hour at least five days a week. And uh,

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know a lot about Rachel Bonetta's back or

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<v Speaker 1>other than the fact that she's an awful Canadian who

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<v Speaker 1>doesn't chat very often. So I'm actually curious to find

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<v Speaker 1>out some of this information myself. So Rachel, first of all,

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<v Speaker 1>thanks for coming on. First off, I'm really sorry I

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<v Speaker 1>did not realize that we were supposed to give you

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<v Speaker 1>five first, I gave you one. I don't think I

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<v Speaker 1>can join the excited to be here, excited to chat

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<v Speaker 1>with you. Um, you're right. We worked together every single day,

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<v Speaker 1>and I think that we know kind of like surface

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<v Speaker 1>level information about each other. But I guess I'm excited

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<v Speaker 1>to spill all my dirty, juicy secrets on this podcast. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>I mean, I would say more than surface level because

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<v Speaker 1>your mom and I have been dating for a while.

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<v Speaker 1>But that's how we're gonna start. We really don't talk

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<v Speaker 1>that much about you. It's more about our relationship than

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<v Speaker 1>it is yours with your Oh why did I ever

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<v Speaker 1>agree to do this? That's a good question. Well, honestly,

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<v Speaker 1>I thought you were going to give me the heisman

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<v Speaker 1>on this because you were nervous. Why were you nervous

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<v Speaker 1>to come on the show? I think it was nervous because,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I feel like every other podcast that I've done,

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<v Speaker 1>which is not many by any means, Um, it's been

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<v Speaker 1>all this surface level again. It's it's all like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>what have you been doing the last two years, and

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<v Speaker 1>how do you like your job? And what do you

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<v Speaker 1>aspire to do in the future, And it's all been

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<v Speaker 1>very like boring, uh stuff, And I feel like you're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna ask me questions that are going to make me

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<v Speaker 1>uncomfortable answer them because I've agreed new that's already. So

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<v Speaker 1>I'm I'm excited. Let's make you uncomfortable right up. So

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<v Speaker 1>first of all, I hear what I Here's what I

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<v Speaker 1>know about you. You grew up in Canada. You have

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<v Speaker 1>three older brothers, which makes our show almost a little

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<v Speaker 1>bit of a reflection of what your life was like.

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<v Speaker 1>So take me into Canada. I don't know much about Canada.

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<v Speaker 1>I bet a lot of our listeners don't. But if

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<v Speaker 1>we do know something about Candida, it's like, okay, we

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<v Speaker 1>know something about Toronto. We know maybe Montreal, maybe Vancouver.

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<v Speaker 1>Where did you grow up? What was it like when

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<v Speaker 1>you were a kid. I grew up about two and

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<v Speaker 1>a half hours outside of Toronto, UM in a really

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<v Speaker 1>really small town called or Know, and I lived on

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<v Speaker 1>forty six acres. We had a huge property. UM probably

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<v Speaker 1>like middle class family. My dad drove transport trucks and

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<v Speaker 1>my mom was a school secretary. Uh. And I used

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<v Speaker 1>to ride four wheelers and dirt bikes and fight with

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<v Speaker 1>my brothers. There's a huge age gap between me and

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<v Speaker 1>the youngest brother. It's eight years, so they were all

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<v Speaker 1>so much older than me. Um, and it was like

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<v Speaker 1>a dog eat dog world in my house. It's like

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<v Speaker 1>you had to fend for yourself or else you were

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<v Speaker 1>gonna get the crap kind of kicked out of you. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was the only girl too, so I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like the guys really wanted to make me tough and

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<v Speaker 1>wanted to make me one of them. So you know,

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<v Speaker 1>I was like covered in dirt from an early age. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was also a really beautiful place to grow

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<v Speaker 1>up because there was absolutely nothing around, nothing to do,

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<v Speaker 1>so I was all of us, the whole family are

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<v Speaker 1>really creative because we literally had like two blades of

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<v Speaker 1>grass to rub together to kind of entertain ourselves. So um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, I would we had like this huge woods

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<v Speaker 1>in our back yard and or behind our house, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was like always exploring and um, you know, really

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<v Speaker 1>trying to be a tag team for those guys. So yes,

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<v Speaker 1>it absolutely applies to our show. I feel like I've

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<v Speaker 1>been you know, um, speaking up for myself and fending

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<v Speaker 1>for myself from a very young age. And uh, it

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<v Speaker 1>really mimics my my life because all of you guys

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<v Speaker 1>are quite a bit older than me too, because Todd's

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<v Speaker 1>what ten years older than I am, and he's the

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<v Speaker 1>youngest one on the show. So, um, it's very interesting

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<v Speaker 1>that I've found myself in this exact same dynamic. Uh

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<v Speaker 1>seven years old? All right, so you're twenty seven. You

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<v Speaker 1>grew up on forty six acres. I didn't know this

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<v Speaker 1>at all in are No, Like, how do you spell

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<v Speaker 1>the town that you're from in Canada? It's Toronto without

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<v Speaker 1>the teas? Are No? So how many people live there?

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<v Speaker 1>And and what did you do? So let's say you

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<v Speaker 1>leave the forty acres? What do you do? Like? What

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<v Speaker 1>did you guys do for fun? Is there a mall? Like?

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<v Speaker 1>How close is the movie at? Or like mall? Like

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<v Speaker 1>what did you do for fun? With the clothes? Movie?

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<v Speaker 1>Theater was probably forty five minutes away? Like we are

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<v Speaker 1>around nothing. I we didn't have next door neighbors. I

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<v Speaker 1>would have to like walk ten minutes up the street

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<v Speaker 1>to get to the next person that lived close to us,

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<v Speaker 1>my friend. Um, and we we really entertained ourselves. I

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<v Speaker 1>mean we had like a giant pond on our property.

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<v Speaker 1>So anytime in the summer we were like swimming in

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<v Speaker 1>that and my brothers were my best friends. I was

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<v Speaker 1>like always looking up to them, always trying to hang

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<v Speaker 1>out with them. Um. As I got older and U

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<v Speaker 1>went into high school, that's when I started to be

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<v Speaker 1>more interested in like getting out of the house and um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, leaving my family and hanging out with my friends.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was just like sure, we would take

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<v Speaker 1>a forty five minute bus ride to the Oshawa Center

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<v Speaker 1>and like walk around the mall. But um, once I

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<v Speaker 1>grew up in and was in high school, I moved

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<v Speaker 1>to a little bit of a bigger town that actually

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<v Speaker 1>had like stores, so um, but that wasn't until like

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<v Speaker 1>the ninth grade. So I really like I grew up.

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<v Speaker 1>It's insane that I live in Los Angeles now and

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<v Speaker 1>I'm doing what I'm doing because I grew up in

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<v Speaker 1>the middle of nowhere. My high school didn't even have

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<v Speaker 1>a drama program, nothing that would lead one to think

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<v Speaker 1>that I would be in front of a camera. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>And it was just, uh, it was it was a

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<v Speaker 1>very like, you know, my family were my best friends,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was always wanted to wanting to be home.

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<v Speaker 1>But it's also because we had an amazing life, like

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<v Speaker 1>we I could go home and ride my four wheeler

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<v Speaker 1>around for hours until it was like dinner time. So

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<v Speaker 1>it was a lot of time spent solo slash mixed

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<v Speaker 1>with like hanging out with my family. So we're talking

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<v Speaker 1>to Rachel Bannetta. You follow her on Twitter. This Clay

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<v Speaker 1>Travis wins and lost his podcast. How cold was it?

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<v Speaker 1>So you said you had you had like a pond

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<v Speaker 1>to swimming in the summer, Like how cold was it

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<v Speaker 1>in your part of Canada? And how it was? Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>it was cold. We would, Um, we had like two

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<v Speaker 1>really big hills in front of our house, so we

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<v Speaker 1>would like, uh, my dad would take his tractor and

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<v Speaker 1>he would build jumps for us because we all snowboarded

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<v Speaker 1>and skied, so we would. It's a miracle. I didn't

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<v Speaker 1>break a bone until a couple of weeks ago when

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<v Speaker 1>I desiccated my shoulder, but trying. Yeah, exactly, I'm a lizard.

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<v Speaker 1>Um but uh so yeah, we would have like ski

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<v Speaker 1>jumps and like rails and stuff set up in our

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<v Speaker 1>front yard and then my dad would take a giant

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<v Speaker 1>like uh fire hose and put fresh water over our

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<v Speaker 1>already frozen over pond, so it would be a really

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<v Speaker 1>smooth surface to play hockey. And we would hold hockey

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<v Speaker 1>tournaments at our house from like for all of our

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<v Speaker 1>family to come to. So we would have like days

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<v Speaker 1>before Christmas at like all of our aunts and uncles

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<v Speaker 1>and cousins would come. We'd have like huge hockey tournaments.

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<v Speaker 1>Is the most Canadian thing sounding thing. I didn't realize

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<v Speaker 1>we would have crazy hockey tournaments on our pond because

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<v Speaker 1>it was like a beautiful rink. It was like, those

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<v Speaker 1>are some of the best childhood memories for me. So

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<v Speaker 1>the Raptors obviously were a part of your childhood. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you a big hockey fan and how much what did

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<v Speaker 1>the Raptors mean to you growing up? Um? I never

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<v Speaker 1>attached myself to hockey team because my dad hated the

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<v Speaker 1>Leafs for whatever reason. I think that he loved to

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<v Speaker 1>watch them to hate them. So we were raised in

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<v Speaker 1>like an anti trying to make the Leaf's household. But

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<v Speaker 1>we were living in Ontario, so it's kind of hard to,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, really find another team that I loved, so

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<v Speaker 1>not some I played a lot of hockey, played hockey

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<v Speaker 1>for like five years, um, but then basketball. I remember

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<v Speaker 1>waking up on my ninth birthday and I had a

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<v Speaker 1>canopy bed, and I woke up probably like three AM,

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<v Speaker 1>and somehow my brother and his girlfriend had snuck into

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<v Speaker 1>my room and put like a friend. I can still

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<v Speaker 1>remember looking at it, a fresh Crisp White fifteen Raptor's jersey,

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<v Speaker 1>Vince Carter's jersey, and hung it up on my canopy

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<v Speaker 1>with a letter saying like, happy birthday. I hope you

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<v Speaker 1>enjoyed this. That dude and the Raptors were pretty new

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<v Speaker 1>at that point, especially Vince Carter. He's like taking over

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<v Speaker 1>the city and I just, oh, my gosh. I did

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<v Speaker 1>not take that jersey off for probably a year. It

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<v Speaker 1>was like you, I see photos of it and it's

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<v Speaker 1>just covered in grass stains. And I was bringing a

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<v Speaker 1>basketball to school. I wanted to be in the w

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<v Speaker 1>n B A, and I was obsessed with Vince Carter.

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<v Speaker 1>I was so in love with him, like watching him

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<v Speaker 1>any chance I could. UM, and uh, I don't know why.

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know why I loved him so much, and

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<v Speaker 1>I why I fell in love with basketball. But then

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<v Speaker 1>I started playing basketball. I was like captain of my

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<v Speaker 1>seventh and eighth grade team. Um. And then as I

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<v Speaker 1>got older, I kind of fell off a little bit,

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<v Speaker 1>uh just because we started sucking a lot in Vince

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<v Speaker 1>Carter left and um you know, ugly fashion. But um

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<v Speaker 1>so it was so beautiful to come back these last

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<v Speaker 1>few years when they started to heat up again, and

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<v Speaker 1>then this year with Kauai. I was like bawling my

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<v Speaker 1>eyes out when they won because I was just thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about that nine year old girl who was obsessed with sports,

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<v Speaker 1>um and and loved Vince Carter so much, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just thinking about like what I've done with my

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<v Speaker 1>career and my It was like a really like a

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<v Speaker 1>looking inside, deep down moment for me, and I just

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<v Speaker 1>couldn't stop crying on like this is so stupid a

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<v Speaker 1>sports game, and I was. I was really emotion all.

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<v Speaker 1>It just meant it meant a lot to uh younger

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<v Speaker 1>me and and and now me. You got to watch

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<v Speaker 1>it in person, Yeah, I went to go. I went

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<v Speaker 1>to was so lucky. Um one of my friends had

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<v Speaker 1>an extra ticket and asked me to go, and I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like, oh my god, when am I gonna

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<v Speaker 1>We obviously didn't know that they were gonna win at

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<v Speaker 1>that point, but I was like, holy, this is gonna

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<v Speaker 1>be the last game Oracle too so I wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>go see that, um, and I was there to witness

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<v Speaker 1>it in person. There was like a small group of

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<v Speaker 1>us because obviously it's in away game, but there were

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<v Speaker 1>still so many traveling fans. There's probably hundred of us,

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<v Speaker 1>and we just like, uh, congregated in one area after

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<v Speaker 1>they won, and like everyone was emotional. Everyone was wearing

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<v Speaker 1>like old school jerseys and uh, you know Vince Carter,

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<v Speaker 1>DeMar De rose in. Like everyone was kind of all

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<v Speaker 1>over the place and you could just tell like, oh

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<v Speaker 1>my gosh, we all love this so much that we've

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<v Speaker 1>that we've traveled. It's like almost like the batch of

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<v Speaker 1>the most hardcore Raptors fans that you can find. Uh.

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<v Speaker 1>And we were all there and and they celebrated right

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<v Speaker 1>in front of us and lifted the trophy and um,

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<v Speaker 1>it was just a really really cool moment. I'll remember that.

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<v Speaker 1>I kind of was just like, how do I want

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<v Speaker 1>to go? Like I have to work the next day

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<v Speaker 1>and it's all the way up in San Francisco, Like

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<v Speaker 1>do I really want to do that? I want to

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<v Speaker 1>spend the money, And I was just like, screw it,

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<v Speaker 1>what am I ever going to have this chance again?

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna remember. I'm gonna tell my kids about this

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<v Speaker 1>moment um, So it was it was something to remember

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked

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<v Speaker 1>the coverage with Clay Travis week days at six am

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<v Speaker 1>Eastern three am Pacific. Your seven. You haven't even had

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<v Speaker 1>your ten year high school reunion yet, which is pretty

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<v Speaker 1>crazy to think about giving what you're doing now for

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<v Speaker 1>a living, That is insane. Yeah, So if you had been,

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<v Speaker 1>if if you had been when you were sixteen or

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<v Speaker 1>seventeen years old, asked what do you want to do

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<v Speaker 1>for a living? And everybody at sixteen and seventeen has

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<v Speaker 1>different answers. Had you hit on the idea of I

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<v Speaker 1>want to be involved in media and entertainment in some

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<v Speaker 1>former fashion yet and if not, when did you hit

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<v Speaker 1>on that idea? Yeah? When I was sixteen, I was

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<v Speaker 1>that's like the twelve right. I was volunteering at my

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<v Speaker 1>local news station. So I was like Mike in hand,

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<v Speaker 1>ready to go. I always wanted to be an actress,

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<v Speaker 1>but I was just like that pause here for a second,

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<v Speaker 1>I want to go back and this so you your

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<v Speaker 1>local news is where local news was probably at the

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<v Speaker 1>time forty five minutes away from me like where I

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<v Speaker 1>was going. But it was like local news oshwa, like

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<v Speaker 1>that area, that's what it was. You would you would

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<v Speaker 1>show up and do like you're like, what are you

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<v Speaker 1>doing at the local news? And how did you end

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<v Speaker 1>up going there? So we had a program in our

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<v Speaker 1>high school that you could take a semester off and

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<v Speaker 1>kind of do like an internship if you were at

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<v Speaker 1>a good place with your grades and stuff like that.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and so I decided to uh oh they called

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<v Speaker 1>it a co op. So I decided to go. You

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<v Speaker 1>you'd have to go into school maybe like three times

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<v Speaker 1>a month, but I tell the semester off. Yeah, it

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<v Speaker 1>was amazing and you get like real experience, like some

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<v Speaker 1>people would go and work, um, like in the trades

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<v Speaker 1>and stuff like that, but it was this was this

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<v Speaker 1>one was available and so I applied for it, um

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<v Speaker 1>and uh I got it miraculously. And so I would

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<v Speaker 1>go in every single day. I would take my mom's

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<v Speaker 1>car and I would drive into work as like a

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<v Speaker 1>real reporter. And I was wearing like flax and like blazers,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was learning how to be a reporter everything

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<v Speaker 1>from like you know, gathering information and doing the investigative

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<v Speaker 1>part to the way that you make your voice sound

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<v Speaker 1>like a reporter and first local Rachel Bonetta on the scene,

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<v Speaker 1>Like it was ridiculous the things that they were teaching

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<v Speaker 1>me to do, which just seems so oh so cringing now,

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<v Speaker 1>but um, I was. I just went home actually a

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<v Speaker 1>couple of weeks ago, and I was looking through all

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<v Speaker 1>of my old tapes because I've kept everything, and it

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<v Speaker 1>was like, you can see it on my Instagram. I

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<v Speaker 1>posted when it was like sixteen year old me reporting

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<v Speaker 1>from like a fundraiser and like a school safety meeting,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was all very like, you know, youth reporting

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<v Speaker 1>kind of things. They weren't making me go and do

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<v Speaker 1>the hard hitting journalism, but that experience was like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm gonna go to school for broadcast journalism now.

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<v Speaker 1>Like that just kind of landed in my lap. Part

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<v Speaker 1>of me probably wanted to not go to school and

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<v Speaker 1>go off and try and be like a somewhat of

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<v Speaker 1>a real adult, um, but it ended up kind of

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<v Speaker 1>working my favor. So did these things air on the

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<v Speaker 1>local news or you just did you were on you

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<v Speaker 1>were on local news as a sixteen year old. I

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<v Speaker 1>was on local news. I remember I would go to

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<v Speaker 1>work and I would film whatever I had to film.

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<v Speaker 1>I probably had like four four to five hits a

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<v Speaker 1>week of different stories. I would go to work, come back,

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<v Speaker 1>go to my boyfriend's house, and the whole family would

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<v Speaker 1>gather around and watch the local news until my my

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<v Speaker 1>part came on. It was pretty insane. I was like

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<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old, So what what? I watched a couple

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<v Speaker 1>of these on your Instagram page and one of them

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<v Speaker 1>was like you covered will Blockbuster survive? Right? Or like

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<v Speaker 1>Blockbuster was closing? How did you get these these ideas

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<v Speaker 1>for stories? Did they assign them to you? Did you

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<v Speaker 1>come up with it on your own? Yeah? Like I

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<v Speaker 1>would go out there was like like said, it was

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<v Speaker 1>pretty like loose the broad The Blockbuster thing was from college,

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<v Speaker 1>but all of the other ones were like, Okay, there's

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<v Speaker 1>um picnic benefiting the local animal shelter on Tuesday. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>why don't we send Rachel and a cameraman to that?

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<v Speaker 1>And that's all they gave me. And I would actually

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<v Speaker 1>go and interview all the people that I would have

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<v Speaker 1>to interview and do my research and and you know,

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<v Speaker 1>write everything down and then I would have to do

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<v Speaker 1>all my stand up so it's like being in front

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<v Speaker 1>of a camera holding a mic, being like doing like

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<v Speaker 1>the open and the and the clothes for like a

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<v Speaker 1>one minute peace. Um, and I learned. I learned so much.

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<v Speaker 1>So even going into college, I was just like, screw

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<v Speaker 1>you guys. I was on first local like getting line baby,

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<v Speaker 1>I'm number one. So wait, so you had an adult

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<v Speaker 1>cameraman who would be assigned to you, and like you

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<v Speaker 1>guys would drive around all over town to do local stories. Yes, yes,

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<v Speaker 1>and I took the school. I was able to do

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<v Speaker 1>like a full full credits like I didn't have to

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<v Speaker 1>spend any extra time in high school, like this was

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<v Speaker 1>something that are are are just our school promoted they

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<v Speaker 1>Still that seems crazy to me that a sixteen year

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<v Speaker 1>old could be on local news. How many people would

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<v Speaker 1>watch this local news broadcast, Like oh, I can't imagine

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<v Speaker 1>very well. We would have people like email in about

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<v Speaker 1>like oh I hated Jones tied tonight, you better pick

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<v Speaker 1>up overalls and I'm not going to watch again. Like

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<v Speaker 1>it was there was some. There was some I was

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<v Speaker 1>like never recognized or anything like that, Like it was

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<v Speaker 1>not that many people tuning in, but for it was like, um,

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<v Speaker 1>that's a huge deal for a sixteen year old. Oh. Absolutely,

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<v Speaker 1>the cultination of a bunch of different small towns and

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<v Speaker 1>small cities. Um, because the first local was kind of

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<v Speaker 1>like overseeing a big area and it was the local news,

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<v Speaker 1>so it was like Channel six a lot of people watch.

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<v Speaker 1>So your mom had to be really impressed by that, right, Um. Yeah,

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<v Speaker 1>I think that might say, I'm sure we'll get into this.

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<v Speaker 1>My family was going through some stuff when that was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>My dad was really sick. So as much as they

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<v Speaker 1>were like proud of what I was doing, I wasn't

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<v Speaker 1>really the center of attention at the time. I think

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<v Speaker 1>that looking back now, even even myself, I'm like, holy crap,

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<v Speaker 1>why doing that at sixteens. As I'm telling this story again,

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<v Speaker 1>I haven't talked about it really one time. It sounds insane. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>But yeah, she she was. She was super super proud,

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<v Speaker 1>for sure. So you mentioned what your family was going

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<v Speaker 1>through around the time that you're doing that. So what

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<v Speaker 1>were you dealing with in your family at the time. Well,

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<v Speaker 1>when I was about, um, I want to say, like

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<v Speaker 1>eight or nine, my dad started to just be really weird. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>And and I was so young at that point, I

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<v Speaker 1>had no idea what was going on. Um, but he

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<v Speaker 1>just started acting not himself. And he's like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>he's a really early like typical Canadian lumberjack as you

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<v Speaker 1>would see it. Like he was a hunter, and he

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<v Speaker 1>drove transport trucks and he took care of our family.

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<v Speaker 1>And all of a sudden, he was like not feeling well,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, have having trouble walking and all

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<v Speaker 1>this stuff, and and I had no idea what was happening.

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<v Speaker 1>And I remember being called into my school and in

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<v Speaker 1>my principal's office and her saying, you know, we just

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<v Speaker 1>want to let you know if you're ever feeling that

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<v Speaker 1>you're going through a tough time, like you can always

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<v Speaker 1>come and talk to us. And I was just so confused,

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<v Speaker 1>just like okay, like whatever, I'm gonna go back to

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<v Speaker 1>class now, Like it's just weird. Um. And then my

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<v Speaker 1>my dad's like physical appearance started to diminish more and more.

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<v Speaker 1>And then it was that he ended up in the hospital.

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<v Speaker 1>And and again like I was so young, so my

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<v Speaker 1>mom was probably shielding me from a lot of stuff.

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<v Speaker 1>But it ended up that he had this really rare

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<v Speaker 1>blood disease called amiladosis. And it took them years to

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<v Speaker 1>even identify what it was because it is so rare.

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<v Speaker 1>It's like one and a billion people get this random disease.

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<v Speaker 1>And my mom was actually one of the ones that

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<v Speaker 1>helped diagnose it because she is like such a mom

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<v Speaker 1>through and through and she was like going through notes

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<v Speaker 1>and notes and notes and looking at the symptoms and

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<v Speaker 1>and all of this stuff, and she was the one

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<v Speaker 1>that was just like, well, what about this? And then

0:19:00.440 --> 0:19:02.879
<v Speaker 1>they tested him for it and it ended up being that.

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<v Speaker 1>But um, still like, not a lot of information is

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<v Speaker 1>out about this disease. And basically what happened over those

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<v Speaker 1>years is he started losing a ton of weight. Like

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<v Speaker 1>when I was in the tenth grade, my dad weighed

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<v Speaker 1>less than Iowa and I'm not, I'm like a pounds now.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was really it was really hard and um,

0:19:22.600 --> 0:19:25.040
<v Speaker 1>he was unable to walk. It affected his nervous system.

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<v Speaker 1>Uh so his the nerves and his legs weren't, um,

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<v Speaker 1>you know, acting right. So he had to use a

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<v Speaker 1>walker in a wheelchair, and he was in and out

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<v Speaker 1>of the hospital and they they it's not a treatable disease,

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<v Speaker 1>is a terminal illness, so they were testing him like

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<v Speaker 1>a guinea pig. They gave him chemotherapy, he lost all

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<v Speaker 1>of his hair. They gave him stem cell transplants, which

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<v Speaker 1>is like the huge as needles they put in your back,

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<v Speaker 1>and it was all very painful, and it was all

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<v Speaker 1>just for him to feel better for a couple of years,

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<v Speaker 1>and then he would end up going back, and then

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<v Speaker 1>he would try something new, and then he ended up

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<v Speaker 1>going back, and so it was really really hard um

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<v Speaker 1>to deal with us, and and it was so long,

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<v Speaker 1>and it lasted for eight years, so it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really it took up a really big part of my life,

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<v Speaker 1>and I had to grow up really really quickly. And

0:20:07.760 --> 0:20:09.720
<v Speaker 1>my brothers weren't around because they are so much older.

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<v Speaker 1>By the time I was in high school, they were

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<v Speaker 1>in college, they were living in different provinces, they were

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<v Speaker 1>all over the place. So it was really just like

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<v Speaker 1>me and my mom and my dad, and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>I felt like I was like walking home to a

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<v Speaker 1>very hellish state every single day, and I just wanted

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<v Speaker 1>to I wanted to run away, and I didn't want

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<v Speaker 1>to be in that situation. And it was impossible to

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<v Speaker 1>connect with my dad because I was scared even looking

0:20:33.960 --> 0:20:36.080
<v Speaker 1>at him. What do you look like? And it was

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<v Speaker 1>really hard. It was really hard for a really long time.

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<v Speaker 1>So that's kind of what we were dealing with. And

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<v Speaker 1>that was tough for my mom also too. Like I said,

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<v Speaker 1>she's such a caregiver and her husband the love of

0:20:47.720 --> 0:20:49.879
<v Speaker 1>her life. They had such an amazing I'm so thankful

0:20:49.880 --> 0:20:52.040
<v Speaker 1>that my parents had an incredible relationship. They were married

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<v Speaker 1>for like thirty one years, um, and you know that

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<v Speaker 1>was like her first priority. So you know, you also

0:20:57.160 --> 0:21:01.560
<v Speaker 1>have this like blossoming young daughter who's trying to pursue

0:21:01.560 --> 0:21:04.280
<v Speaker 1>all of these things, but you know, your first priority

0:21:04.320 --> 0:21:06.080
<v Speaker 1>is going to be making sure that your husband can

0:21:06.119 --> 0:21:08.359
<v Speaker 1>get up and walk down the stairs because he couldn't

0:21:08.359 --> 0:21:11.520
<v Speaker 1>do that by himself. So it was a lot, it was.

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<v Speaker 1>It was a tough few years, sir. So from Mike

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<v Speaker 1>eight to sixteen, this is when this is going on. Yeah,

0:21:18.520 --> 0:21:23.120
<v Speaker 1>he passed away, she thought the way when I was seventeen, Um,

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<v Speaker 1>I graduated high school in June or whatever, and he

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<v Speaker 1>passed away that February, right before, right before you graduated.

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<v Speaker 1>So I mean a part of this is you probably

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<v Speaker 1>I don't know if you even like sit around and

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<v Speaker 1>try to psychoanalyze yourself a lot. But if you're sixteen

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<v Speaker 1>and you're so driven to grow up that you're doing

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<v Speaker 1>these reporting assignments, I mean, is that partly like you

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<v Speaker 1>were just ready to be off on your own because

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<v Speaker 1>in some way you had to kind of raise yourself,

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<v Speaker 1>right because your mom has to focus so much on

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<v Speaker 1>your dad. Yeah, no, absolutely, I talked about this in

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<v Speaker 1>therapy every week, but um, yeah, it's it's exactly that.

0:22:02.000 --> 0:22:05.800
<v Speaker 1>And it's, um there's like a fear as well, like

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<v Speaker 1>going home. I when it was just my dad and I,

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<v Speaker 1>like sometimes I'd be sitting in the living room and

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<v Speaker 1>I would here like a crash, and it was because

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<v Speaker 1>like my full grown father has fallen to the ground

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<v Speaker 1>and there's like a fifteen year old I have to

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<v Speaker 1>now pick up his like deadweight body and bring him

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<v Speaker 1>into the living room. Somebody can sit like that's not

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<v Speaker 1>only embarrassing for him and hard for him to deal with,

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<v Speaker 1>it's like, oh my god, I can't profess this, Like

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<v Speaker 1>what is this? And so I was constantly I never

0:22:31.520 --> 0:22:34.080
<v Speaker 1>ran away, per se, but I was always running away.

0:22:34.119 --> 0:22:35.840
<v Speaker 1>I was always trying to get out of that house.

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<v Speaker 1>I moved away as much as I wanted to support

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<v Speaker 1>my mom and stay home for even like a semester.

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<v Speaker 1>I went away to college as fast as I can

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<v Speaker 1>and and I was like always out of the house,

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<v Speaker 1>always at my boyfriend's house, who was like a disaster um.

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<v Speaker 1>And it was yeah, it was really it was a

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<v Speaker 1>really dark place. Home. Home's was a really dark place

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<v Speaker 1>for me the first eight years, not right when everything

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<v Speaker 1>before he got sick, and then it's like just all

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<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, the chapter changes in your life is

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<v Speaker 1>completely altered. Yeah, I mean the first eight years. I

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<v Speaker 1>think that that's why I am, you know. I feel

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<v Speaker 1>like there's this big goofy side to me, and I

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<v Speaker 1>feel like that comes from early on, like the first

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<v Speaker 1>eight years when I had like free range on creativity

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<v Speaker 1>and I had a great relationship with my parents, and

0:23:22.119 --> 0:23:24.679
<v Speaker 1>my parents had a great relationship, and my brothers and

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<v Speaker 1>I were always like goofing and laughing, and they introduced

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<v Speaker 1>me to comedy and and then I feel like around

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<v Speaker 1>like nine, that's when that joyful side just like culpit

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<v Speaker 1>and stopped. And I feel like a big part of

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<v Speaker 1>my life now is like trying to get that back

0:23:41.040 --> 0:23:44.000
<v Speaker 1>and and trying to really live in this like fun

0:23:44.080 --> 0:23:46.679
<v Speaker 1>space because I love that that, like we always talk

0:23:46.720 --> 0:23:48.679
<v Speaker 1>about in therapy, not to get too deep into this,

0:23:48.760 --> 0:23:53.200
<v Speaker 1>like but that, um my my kids like kid Rachel, Um,

0:23:53.240 --> 0:23:55.040
<v Speaker 1>you know, she needs to be taken care of because

0:23:55.640 --> 0:23:58.880
<v Speaker 1>around like eight or nine, she stopped having people look

0:23:59.160 --> 0:24:01.080
<v Speaker 1>looking out for her. She was looking out for herself

0:24:01.080 --> 0:24:05.800
<v Speaker 1>because everyone else was focused on my father and so, um, yeah,

0:24:05.800 --> 0:24:07.480
<v Speaker 1>it's a lots. It's a lot to deal with for

0:24:07.600 --> 0:24:10.240
<v Speaker 1>a really young kid. I didn't even know it, Like

0:24:10.240 --> 0:24:14.320
<v Speaker 1>I said, my mom couldn't even explain to me what

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<v Speaker 1>was happening at this point in my life because it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>how do we even tell how old are your kids? Clay, Like,

0:24:20.200 --> 0:24:22.240
<v Speaker 1>imagine telling them no. I mean that's what I'm thinking

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<v Speaker 1>about now. I've got eleven and eight and a four

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<v Speaker 1>year old, and so they've had explained to them totally

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<v Speaker 1>idyllic existence right now, and if if something like that happened,

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<v Speaker 1>it would be like they would be, you know, almost

0:24:33.800 --> 0:24:36.920
<v Speaker 1>full pedaling into a wall, right like everything is perfect

0:24:36.960 --> 0:24:39.920
<v Speaker 1>and then it's like a line of demarcation and everything

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<v Speaker 1>changes in their life. And I think there's probably a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of people out there listening right now who maybe

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<v Speaker 1>not have had as serious of an incident as you have,

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<v Speaker 1>but they can go to a point in their life

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<v Speaker 1>and be like this changed everything, right and and whatever

0:24:53.440 --> 0:24:57.000
<v Speaker 1>else comes afterwards, I can't get over what might have

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<v Speaker 1>happened at this age. By the way, you're listening to

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<v Speaker 1>Winds and Losses. I'm Clay Travis. We're talking with Rachel

0:25:02.160 --> 0:25:06.280
<v Speaker 1>Bonetta and so you you you're doing this thing at

0:25:06.320 --> 0:25:09.000
<v Speaker 1>sixteen years old. You're doing local news and and it's

0:25:09.040 --> 0:25:12.720
<v Speaker 1>interesting because you have a and I'm sure people here

0:25:12.760 --> 0:25:14.919
<v Speaker 1>as this goes on, if they watched the show, certainly

0:25:14.960 --> 0:25:18.720
<v Speaker 1>you know this. You have a really great sense of humor.

0:25:19.160 --> 0:25:21.040
<v Speaker 1>But a part of that a lot of times comedians

0:25:21.080 --> 0:25:23.639
<v Speaker 1>have great sense as a humor because it's a coping mechanism, right,

0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:27.640
<v Speaker 1>I mean, otherwise you just kind of wallow in, uh

0:25:27.680 --> 0:25:30.080
<v Speaker 1>in the things that are bad in your life, and

0:25:30.119 --> 0:25:33.520
<v Speaker 1>that's a way to escape the darkness, right, um. And

0:25:33.520 --> 0:25:36.200
<v Speaker 1>and I think the humor that you have, whether it's

0:25:36.200 --> 0:25:40.160
<v Speaker 1>on Instagram or on social media are certainly on our

0:25:40.200 --> 0:25:44.280
<v Speaker 1>show comes through a lot, but it's almost like a

0:25:44.320 --> 0:25:46.480
<v Speaker 1>self defense mechanism in some ways. Not to mean that

0:25:46.720 --> 0:25:48.720
<v Speaker 1>you're not funny, but it's it's interesting where that comes

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<v Speaker 1>from Yeah, no, for sure. I mean my dad was

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<v Speaker 1>a very quick like honestly, and I think that a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of times he was always trying to lighten the

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<v Speaker 1>mood because he was sick and all of us, like

0:25:59.280 --> 0:26:01.840
<v Speaker 1>he probably felt from his daughter like, Oh, she's afraid

0:26:01.880 --> 0:26:03.960
<v Speaker 1>of me now because she's afraid of losing me. So

0:26:04.000 --> 0:26:06.679
<v Speaker 1>she's gonna push me as far as she can away

0:26:06.720 --> 0:26:08.880
<v Speaker 1>because she doesn't want to get hurt. And so his

0:26:09.280 --> 0:26:11.520
<v Speaker 1>way of cracking the ice with me was being funny

0:26:11.600 --> 0:26:14.040
<v Speaker 1>and like watching funny things in same with my brothers,

0:26:14.080 --> 0:26:17.000
<v Speaker 1>like I was introduced to like sn L and SETV

0:26:17.400 --> 0:26:20.760
<v Speaker 1>and mad TV and in Living color, all of those

0:26:20.760 --> 0:26:23.680
<v Speaker 1>things when I was really young, because it was so

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<v Speaker 1>depressing in our household that what we watched at night

0:26:27.040 --> 0:26:29.479
<v Speaker 1>had to be something that made us laugh. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I'm thankful that I grew up in a in a

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<v Speaker 1>family that had a sense of humor and was able

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<v Speaker 1>to laugh about some stuff. Like my dad would make

0:26:35.240 --> 0:26:37.119
<v Speaker 1>jokes when he was bald and like had peach fuzz

0:26:37.160 --> 0:26:40.880
<v Speaker 1>and um, you know, he he was ridiculous and super goofy,

0:26:40.920 --> 0:26:43.640
<v Speaker 1>and I will hold those memories super close to my heart.

0:26:43.680 --> 0:26:45.720
<v Speaker 1>But um, that was definitely a way to all of it.

0:26:45.800 --> 0:26:47.639
<v Speaker 1>It wasn't just me. All of us were trying to

0:26:47.680 --> 0:26:50.359
<v Speaker 1>cope with this through our sense of humor because that

0:26:50.400 --> 0:26:52.159
<v Speaker 1>was literally the only way that we could keep breathing.

0:26:53.720 --> 0:26:58.040
<v Speaker 1>So sixteen year old Rachel is a local news star, Um,

0:26:58.080 --> 0:27:00.920
<v Speaker 1>you're dealing with your dad. You said, I don't even

0:27:00.920 --> 0:27:02.680
<v Speaker 1>know if your your boyfriend might listen to this. He

0:27:02.720 --> 0:27:05.080
<v Speaker 1>probably doesn't want to hear it because you probably that

0:27:05.160 --> 0:27:07.080
<v Speaker 1>you never had a boyfriend before. But you said you

0:27:07.119 --> 0:27:10.159
<v Speaker 1>had an awful high school boyfriend. Oh. Yeah, he was

0:27:10.200 --> 0:27:12.000
<v Speaker 1>a jerk. He was a jerk. I didd him for

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<v Speaker 1>like five years to five years of a long time

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<v Speaker 1>in high school. So what initially attracted you to him? Oh,

0:27:18.560 --> 0:27:21.040
<v Speaker 1>I don't know. You have like a shaved head. He

0:27:21.160 --> 0:27:24.199
<v Speaker 1>was a skateboarder. That's why I was really into skateboarders

0:27:24.240 --> 0:27:25.879
<v Speaker 1>at the time. But I started dating him like the

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<v Speaker 1>end of my Our junior high was right next to

0:27:29.040 --> 0:27:30.600
<v Speaker 1>our high school, and still there was probably only a

0:27:30.680 --> 0:27:34.120
<v Speaker 1>total of like five hundred people, um combined with all

0:27:34.160 --> 0:27:36.480
<v Speaker 1>of those grades. So it was partly because there was

0:27:36.560 --> 0:27:39.879
<v Speaker 1>nobody else. But I met him at like the end

0:27:39.920 --> 0:27:41.359
<v Speaker 1>of the eighth grade and I broke up with him.

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<v Speaker 1>As soon as I went to college, I was like, later,

0:27:43.960 --> 0:27:46.760
<v Speaker 1>so what does he do now? I have no idea

0:27:46.840 --> 0:27:50.239
<v Speaker 1>and I do not want to know. So legitimately you

0:27:50.240 --> 0:27:53.080
<v Speaker 1>have no idea, like he hasn't tracked, have no idea. No, no,

0:27:53.240 --> 0:27:55.040
<v Speaker 1>I think that once. Once I got to college, I

0:27:55.080 --> 0:27:56.800
<v Speaker 1>was like, oh my god, I gos a jerk. Like,

0:27:57.880 --> 0:28:00.880
<v Speaker 1>for instance, I'll give you a little glimpse in our relationship,

0:28:01.400 --> 0:28:05.880
<v Speaker 1>um my twelfth grade. Um, you know, it was really

0:28:05.920 --> 0:28:07.480
<v Speaker 1>just like a waiting game when my dad he was

0:28:07.520 --> 0:28:11.040
<v Speaker 1>not doing well. This was probably in November. The doctors

0:28:11.040 --> 0:28:13.080
<v Speaker 1>told us that my dad had until Christmas to live.

0:28:13.160 --> 0:28:16.760
<v Speaker 1>Basically what a date, right, Oh yeah, celebrate Christmas as

0:28:16.800 --> 0:28:19.200
<v Speaker 1>your dad? And I like the next day. Um, and

0:28:19.240 --> 0:28:23.439
<v Speaker 1>so I found out in November my boyfriend broke up

0:28:23.440 --> 0:28:26.320
<v Speaker 1>with me. And I was devastated because literally going through

0:28:26.359 --> 0:28:28.520
<v Speaker 1>the worst time in my life. Now, I've lost the

0:28:28.520 --> 0:28:31.040
<v Speaker 1>only person that I can really you know, he's like

0:28:31.080 --> 0:28:34.320
<v Speaker 1>my number one shoulder to cry on. He broke up

0:28:34.320 --> 0:28:37.280
<v Speaker 1>with me the next day. He's love with my best

0:28:37.280 --> 0:28:40.600
<v Speaker 1>friend and all of this stuff is going on, and

0:28:40.640 --> 0:28:44.920
<v Speaker 1>so I was just like, uh, you know, I stupidly.

0:28:45.000 --> 0:28:46.520
<v Speaker 1>Why am I telling you this stuff? For the first place,

0:28:47.560 --> 0:28:50.000
<v Speaker 1>I got back together with him after my dad passed away,

0:28:50.480 --> 0:28:52.800
<v Speaker 1>and then it literally as soon as I left for college,

0:28:52.840 --> 0:28:54.720
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, get this guy into my life.

0:28:54.760 --> 0:28:58.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm so much better off. So yeah, like high school,

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<v Speaker 1>Rachel was all over the place. She was mess. You

0:29:00.560 --> 0:29:02.760
<v Speaker 1>did not know how to function. The only thing that

0:29:02.800 --> 0:29:05.360
<v Speaker 1>she was like worried about with school and her career,

0:29:05.600 --> 0:29:09.520
<v Speaker 1>which is like kind of still the same. Um, But uh, yeah,

0:29:09.600 --> 0:29:12.480
<v Speaker 1>I was going through it. I think about that Rachel now,

0:29:12.520 --> 0:29:15.640
<v Speaker 1>and I couldn't make me cry sometimes because I was

0:29:15.720 --> 0:29:18.600
<v Speaker 1>really being put through the ringer And what you wish

0:29:18.680 --> 0:29:20.440
<v Speaker 1>what do you wish you you could go back in

0:29:20.520 --> 0:29:23.040
<v Speaker 1>time and tell yourself when you were in high school.

0:29:27.360 --> 0:29:29.600
<v Speaker 1>I don't know, but everything's gonna be okay, I guess.

0:29:29.640 --> 0:29:31.800
<v Speaker 1>But I always had the sense that it was going

0:29:31.880 --> 0:29:33.400
<v Speaker 1>to be all right. Like I do think I deal

0:29:33.440 --> 0:29:37.240
<v Speaker 1>with trauma pretty fairly well, whether it's like you know, uh,

0:29:37.600 --> 0:29:40.160
<v Speaker 1>somebody passing away or like me losing my passport in

0:29:40.160 --> 0:29:42.120
<v Speaker 1>a foreign country. Like I'm very I'm a very good

0:29:42.120 --> 0:29:46.000
<v Speaker 1>problem solver. Um. But I think that there's always been

0:29:46.000 --> 0:29:49.840
<v Speaker 1>the fear of I will say this, Ever since my

0:29:49.880 --> 0:29:51.880
<v Speaker 1>dad passed away, and even before that, there's I've I've

0:29:51.880 --> 0:29:56.360
<v Speaker 1>had an irrational fear of people leaving me and death

0:29:56.480 --> 0:29:58.400
<v Speaker 1>and and losing people. Whether I can deal with it

0:29:58.520 --> 0:30:00.840
<v Speaker 1>or not, just the fear of it happening absolutely terrifies me.

0:30:00.880 --> 0:30:03.520
<v Speaker 1>So just like letting myself know when it comes to that,

0:30:03.760 --> 0:30:06.520
<v Speaker 1>like I'm I'm okay, I'm gonna be okay, and I'm

0:30:06.520 --> 0:30:09.360
<v Speaker 1>gonna get through this and at least I'm gonna live.

0:30:09.480 --> 0:30:11.800
<v Speaker 1>We know that I don't even know that it's in

0:30:11.840 --> 0:30:14.240
<v Speaker 1>a rational fear based on what you've been through, uh

0:30:14.440 --> 0:30:17.960
<v Speaker 1>I know. Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked

0:30:18.000 --> 0:30:21.120
<v Speaker 1>the Coverage with Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern,

0:30:21.200 --> 0:30:24.800
<v Speaker 1>three am Pacific, talking to Rachel Bannetta wins and Lost

0:30:24.840 --> 0:30:27.120
<v Speaker 1>his podcast I'm Clay Travis. You can follow Rachel at

0:30:27.200 --> 0:30:29.200
<v Speaker 1>Rachel bannetto on Twitter. You can watch her every single

0:30:29.280 --> 0:30:32.720
<v Speaker 1>day on uh FS one Walk it In alongside of me,

0:30:32.840 --> 0:30:35.160
<v Speaker 1>cousin sal and Todd Ferman. All right, so you go

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<v Speaker 1>off to college. You've probably given everything that you are

0:30:38.120 --> 0:30:41.040
<v Speaker 1>going through in high school, are desperate to go away

0:30:41.080 --> 0:30:43.120
<v Speaker 1>to college? Where do you go? How do you pick

0:30:43.160 --> 0:30:45.240
<v Speaker 1>it and what is your focus when you go away

0:30:45.280 --> 0:30:49.200
<v Speaker 1>to college. So I moved into the city. I moved

0:30:49.200 --> 0:30:52.120
<v Speaker 1>into the city. I've got Toronto meeting meeting, the city

0:30:52.120 --> 0:30:55.240
<v Speaker 1>of Toronto, Yeah, the big city. I think two of

0:30:55.240 --> 0:30:56.800
<v Speaker 1>my brothers were living there at the time, so at

0:30:56.880 --> 0:30:59.840
<v Speaker 1>least I had some kind of you know, safety with

0:31:00.040 --> 0:31:03.560
<v Speaker 1>having them somewhat close. But I decided that I wasn't

0:31:03.560 --> 0:31:06.520
<v Speaker 1>going to audition, uh to go to school for theater

0:31:06.680 --> 0:31:11.320
<v Speaker 1>because I was too scared. I think that, um, you know,

0:31:11.320 --> 0:31:13.120
<v Speaker 1>everything that had happened. I was just like, I just

0:31:13.160 --> 0:31:16.400
<v Speaker 1>want to go to school for something I know that

0:31:16.440 --> 0:31:18.200
<v Speaker 1>I can get into, for something that I know I'm

0:31:18.200 --> 0:31:19.960
<v Speaker 1>already good at, and for something that I know that

0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:22.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm slightly interested in. And at least, um, you know,

0:31:23.040 --> 0:31:25.960
<v Speaker 1>part of the school processes that I can take improv classes,

0:31:26.000 --> 0:31:27.840
<v Speaker 1>which was so exciting for me and I still take

0:31:27.880 --> 0:31:31.560
<v Speaker 1>those to this day. Um. So I applied for broadcast journalism.

0:31:32.480 --> 0:31:34.520
<v Speaker 1>I think I was a shoe in because, as you said,

0:31:34.520 --> 0:31:41.160
<v Speaker 1>I'm a sixteen year old television star at uh uh. Yeah.

0:31:41.200 --> 0:31:42.920
<v Speaker 1>So I moved into the city. I moved out of

0:31:42.960 --> 0:31:47.320
<v Speaker 1>my house. My mom sold our house and moved into

0:31:47.400 --> 0:31:49.360
<v Speaker 1>like a really small house and like a small town

0:31:49.360 --> 0:31:53.760
<v Speaker 1>far away, further away from me. Um and uh, I

0:31:53.840 --> 0:31:57.080
<v Speaker 1>failed and I feeled hard. I was doing this talk

0:31:57.200 --> 0:31:58.920
<v Speaker 1>about mental health a couple of years ago for the

0:31:58.920 --> 0:32:01.800
<v Speaker 1>Big East, and there were it was like all coaches

0:32:02.080 --> 0:32:04.360
<v Speaker 1>that were in the room, and I was a volleyball player,

0:32:04.440 --> 0:32:07.160
<v Speaker 1>was a varsity volleyball player, and I brought in my

0:32:07.200 --> 0:32:10.800
<v Speaker 1>transcripts from my first semester of my first year, and

0:32:10.800 --> 0:32:12.960
<v Speaker 1>it was all like f f F d F c

0:32:13.240 --> 0:32:16.360
<v Speaker 1>f f F like failed, like literally everything I could

0:32:16.400 --> 0:32:19.760
<v Speaker 1>have failed, I failed pretty much. Um. And it was

0:32:20.080 --> 0:32:21.840
<v Speaker 1>I was telling these people because I was just like

0:32:21.920 --> 0:32:24.880
<v Speaker 1>I was depressed and anxious and going through the dealing

0:32:24.880 --> 0:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>with the loss of my father and and those times

0:32:28.720 --> 0:32:30.560
<v Speaker 1>the coach, I'm seeing my coach more than I'm seeing

0:32:30.560 --> 0:32:33.160
<v Speaker 1>my teachers. Um. And so I was kind of saying

0:32:33.160 --> 0:32:34.680
<v Speaker 1>that like this is this was my story, and I

0:32:34.760 --> 0:32:36.760
<v Speaker 1>was telling them and oh my god, I just bombed

0:32:36.840 --> 0:32:40.520
<v Speaker 1>so bad because like my I was just going through

0:32:40.560 --> 0:32:45.000
<v Speaker 1>a world of pain and I forgot everything that I learned. Um,

0:32:45.040 --> 0:32:48.960
<v Speaker 1>you know at first local and it was a it

0:32:49.000 --> 0:32:52.200
<v Speaker 1>was tough, It was really tough. I thought about quitting.

0:32:52.400 --> 0:32:54.400
<v Speaker 1>I was just like I'm not I need to take

0:32:54.440 --> 0:32:56.400
<v Speaker 1>some time off, Like clearly my brain is not right.

0:32:56.440 --> 0:32:58.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm not in a right space to be learning and

0:32:58.560 --> 0:33:00.800
<v Speaker 1>to be caring about anything other than thinking about my

0:33:00.840 --> 0:33:04.400
<v Speaker 1>dad dying. Like it was rough. So you went to

0:33:04.520 --> 0:33:06.960
<v Speaker 1>class and you were making it like, I mean, how

0:33:06.960 --> 0:33:09.040
<v Speaker 1>how did you fail? Everything right? Because I mean I

0:33:09.040 --> 0:33:12.280
<v Speaker 1>would go into class, I was listening to the lecture,

0:33:12.440 --> 0:33:15.320
<v Speaker 1>I was being given the homework, and I was saying

0:33:15.400 --> 0:33:17.920
<v Speaker 1>f you, and I was gooding, And I would go

0:33:17.960 --> 0:33:21.600
<v Speaker 1>to volleyball practice and I'd go home, sleep, wake up

0:33:21.600 --> 0:33:23.080
<v Speaker 1>the next day to do it all over again. I

0:33:23.120 --> 0:33:25.680
<v Speaker 1>was not handing in any assignments. I was having trouble

0:33:25.720 --> 0:33:28.040
<v Speaker 1>going to class sometimes because I couldn't get out of bed.

0:33:28.480 --> 0:33:31.040
<v Speaker 1>This was like my first real bout with depression like

0:33:31.080 --> 0:33:33.920
<v Speaker 1>I had never really felt. Not only was I moving

0:33:33.960 --> 0:33:36.440
<v Speaker 1>away um from home and like what I know and

0:33:36.480 --> 0:33:38.080
<v Speaker 1>what I love, and I broke up with my boyfriend,

0:33:38.120 --> 0:33:40.040
<v Speaker 1>which is like, you know, any teenager is going to

0:33:40.120 --> 0:33:42.520
<v Speaker 1>have a problem with that, and it's gonna like face

0:33:42.560 --> 0:33:44.960
<v Speaker 1>some kind of repercussion in their feelings and their emotions.

0:33:45.320 --> 0:33:48.600
<v Speaker 1>But also I just had like a catastrophic event happened

0:33:48.600 --> 0:33:51.440
<v Speaker 1>in my life. Um, and I just couldn't handle it.

0:33:51.440 --> 0:33:52.760
<v Speaker 1>I couldn't deal with it. So I would not get

0:33:52.760 --> 0:33:55.840
<v Speaker 1>into bed, I would not do my assignments. And it

0:33:55.920 --> 0:33:59.120
<v Speaker 1>showed so for a full year or a full semester,

0:33:59.520 --> 0:34:03.960
<v Speaker 1>just a full semester. After I got those the grades back. UM,

0:34:04.040 --> 0:34:06.280
<v Speaker 1>my volleyball coach threatened to kick me off the team.

0:34:06.400 --> 0:34:10.880
<v Speaker 1>UM My mom was very disappointed in me, and I

0:34:11.000 --> 0:34:14.319
<v Speaker 1>just snapped. I had this moment of being like you,

0:34:14.480 --> 0:34:16.480
<v Speaker 1>I had this really beautiful moment with my dad right

0:34:16.840 --> 0:34:19.239
<v Speaker 1>right before he passed away. I'm gonna try and get

0:34:19.239 --> 0:34:22.440
<v Speaker 1>through this. Um. And uh, you know, we we knew

0:34:22.440 --> 0:34:24.160
<v Speaker 1>about a week before he passed away. They pulled me

0:34:24.160 --> 0:34:26.279
<v Speaker 1>out of school and they brought my brothers home and

0:34:26.280 --> 0:34:27.839
<v Speaker 1>we're like, spend as much time as with your dad

0:34:27.840 --> 0:34:29.839
<v Speaker 1>as you can, because he's gonna be he's not gonna

0:34:29.840 --> 0:34:32.319
<v Speaker 1>make it pass this week. He's stopped eating, and so

0:34:32.400 --> 0:34:34.360
<v Speaker 1>all of us took turns going up into his bedroom.

0:34:34.400 --> 0:34:36.520
<v Speaker 1>He had like a hospital bed pulled into our house,

0:34:36.760 --> 0:34:41.080
<v Speaker 1>and um, when he was awake and around and you know,

0:34:41.160 --> 0:34:43.000
<v Speaker 1>with it, we would go up and we would have

0:34:43.040 --> 0:34:45.799
<v Speaker 1>conversations with him, and I got to tell him right

0:34:45.800 --> 0:34:48.560
<v Speaker 1>before he passed away, like a couple of days before that,

0:34:48.640 --> 0:34:51.480
<v Speaker 1>I was like, I'm gonna go and kick ass and

0:34:51.520 --> 0:34:53.520
<v Speaker 1>I'm inna I think also the first time that I

0:34:53.520 --> 0:34:55.000
<v Speaker 1>swore in front of my dad, I remember being like,

0:34:55.000 --> 0:34:56.319
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I hope it's not gonna be mad

0:34:56.360 --> 0:34:58.879
<v Speaker 1>at me, but I'm gonna go kick ass, and I'm

0:34:58.880 --> 0:35:00.839
<v Speaker 1>gonna go make you so out, and I'm gonna take

0:35:00.880 --> 0:35:03.359
<v Speaker 1>care of mom. And I'm just gonna go and and

0:35:03.480 --> 0:35:05.200
<v Speaker 1>just kill it at school and I'm going to be

0:35:05.560 --> 0:35:08.560
<v Speaker 1>a star and and you don't have to worry about anything.

0:35:08.560 --> 0:35:10.920
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna take care of everybody. From one of the

0:35:10.960 --> 0:35:12.760
<v Speaker 1>last things that you said to me ever, was seeing

0:35:12.800 --> 0:35:16.000
<v Speaker 1>the movie's kids, Well it makes me want to vomit. Um,

0:35:17.880 --> 0:35:21.560
<v Speaker 1>I know, right, sor right? But I had this moment

0:35:22.280 --> 0:35:24.360
<v Speaker 1>after that first semester that I was like, I have

0:35:24.560 --> 0:35:26.680
<v Speaker 1>not lived up to everything that I told my dad,

0:35:26.760 --> 0:35:28.440
<v Speaker 1>and he would be so disappointed in me. And I

0:35:28.480 --> 0:35:31.400
<v Speaker 1>think even my maybe somebody had said that, like, you know,

0:35:31.600 --> 0:35:33.279
<v Speaker 1>do this for your dad, and I was just like,

0:35:33.320 --> 0:35:37.520
<v Speaker 1>all right, screw this, buckled down started like caring so

0:35:37.600 --> 0:35:40.719
<v Speaker 1>much really put like literally great change from like f

0:35:40.800 --> 0:35:42.640
<v Speaker 1>T A S because I was I'm a smart person

0:35:42.680 --> 0:35:44.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'm creative, and that's exactly what all these things

0:35:44.800 --> 0:35:46.920
<v Speaker 1>we're calling for. It's like make a video, go and

0:35:46.920 --> 0:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>do a documentary, be an improv class, like you know,

0:35:50.160 --> 0:35:56.120
<v Speaker 1>go and cover Blockbuster, shutting down whatever it is, excuse um.

0:35:56.160 --> 0:35:57.920
<v Speaker 1>And uh I just snapped, and I was just like,

0:35:58.040 --> 0:36:01.080
<v Speaker 1>I this is my chance to prove myself and I

0:36:01.120 --> 0:36:03.160
<v Speaker 1>don't want to fail. And I'm not going back to Orn. No,

0:36:03.280 --> 0:36:06.640
<v Speaker 1>good lord, I'm not going back to Orno. And uh

0:36:06.800 --> 0:36:09.240
<v Speaker 1>I just snapped. And I have not since that moment,

0:36:09.360 --> 0:36:12.719
<v Speaker 1>Since that semester, I have never looked back and have

0:36:12.840 --> 0:36:15.560
<v Speaker 1>just gone gung home with my career. And I think

0:36:15.560 --> 0:36:18.680
<v Speaker 1>that's a huge part of the reason why I'm twenty

0:36:18.680 --> 0:36:21.480
<v Speaker 1>seven and I'm hosting a show in Los Angeles, of

0:36:21.480 --> 0:36:24.640
<v Speaker 1>all places, three thousand, five hundred miles away from where

0:36:24.640 --> 0:36:27.839
<v Speaker 1>I grew up, and I'm still like, not backing down,

0:36:27.920 --> 0:36:29.719
<v Speaker 1>still going full till all right. I want to go

0:36:29.760 --> 0:36:31.839
<v Speaker 1>back to that pivot point because there are a lot

0:36:31.880 --> 0:36:35.280
<v Speaker 1>of people who face challenges, and obviously for your age,

0:36:35.400 --> 0:36:40.080
<v Speaker 1>the challenges that you faced wor substantial, and is you

0:36:40.160 --> 0:36:43.280
<v Speaker 1>said that like you suddenly had this realization in your mind,

0:36:43.400 --> 0:36:46.160
<v Speaker 1>but you go home for Christmas. I'm assuming I don't

0:36:46.160 --> 0:36:49.200
<v Speaker 1>know exactly how the Canadian school schedule is, but you

0:36:49.520 --> 0:36:51.400
<v Speaker 1>have to show your mom the f's and the d's

0:36:51.480 --> 0:36:55.520
<v Speaker 1>that you have made. Where exactly do you make that

0:36:55.600 --> 0:36:58.080
<v Speaker 1>decision that things change for you? It's a pivot point.

0:36:58.120 --> 0:36:59.520
<v Speaker 1>Like you said, you could have ended up back in

0:36:59.680 --> 0:37:04.000
<v Speaker 1>Orno uh and uh and people like you're surrounded probably

0:37:04.000 --> 0:37:05.040
<v Speaker 1>by a lot of the people that you went to

0:37:05.120 --> 0:37:08.000
<v Speaker 1>high school with, and you're living a life where it's

0:37:08.080 --> 0:37:10.640
<v Speaker 1>it's kind of a quiet scream of anonymity, right Like

0:37:10.800 --> 0:37:13.759
<v Speaker 1>you're you're feeling like you didn't do what you wanted

0:37:13.800 --> 0:37:15.759
<v Speaker 1>to do. And look, I mean you're still young. I mean,

0:37:15.800 --> 0:37:17.840
<v Speaker 1>even if you had made that decision for a few years,

0:37:18.120 --> 0:37:20.400
<v Speaker 1>you could have still had a pivot point. But for you,

0:37:20.480 --> 0:37:23.560
<v Speaker 1>it happened at eighteen or nineteen years old. What do

0:37:23.640 --> 0:37:27.080
<v Speaker 1>you attribute that too to the mental toughness and the

0:37:27.160 --> 0:37:29.640
<v Speaker 1>ability to make that pivot, Because I feel like there's

0:37:29.640 --> 0:37:31.759
<v Speaker 1>a lot of people listening right now the podcast is

0:37:31.760 --> 0:37:33.880
<v Speaker 1>called Wins and Losses who get to that point and

0:37:33.920 --> 0:37:36.560
<v Speaker 1>it may not have as many significant factors that that

0:37:36.680 --> 0:37:39.439
<v Speaker 1>bring it to bear as yours did. But that they're

0:37:39.480 --> 0:37:42.000
<v Speaker 1>at a quarter life crisis or their midlife crisis or

0:37:42.000 --> 0:37:45.200
<v Speaker 1>whatever it is, and maybe they're younger and they might

0:37:45.239 --> 0:37:47.160
<v Speaker 1>not go in the direction that you did to pour

0:37:47.480 --> 0:37:50.640
<v Speaker 1>positivity into the situation. What do you attribute to how

0:37:50.680 --> 0:37:55.880
<v Speaker 1>you were able to do it? Um, I think it

0:37:55.880 --> 0:37:58.080
<v Speaker 1>would be easy for somebody. Let let's say my dad

0:37:58.080 --> 0:37:59.960
<v Speaker 1>didn't pass away, and I went to school and I failed.

0:38:00.920 --> 0:38:03.960
<v Speaker 1>I think it'd be easy for me to be like, um,

0:38:04.320 --> 0:38:06.040
<v Speaker 1>is screw this, Like I'm not I'm just not cut

0:38:06.040 --> 0:38:07.520
<v Speaker 1>out for it. But I think that when you have

0:38:07.600 --> 0:38:11.520
<v Speaker 1>a parent pass away or something traumatic happening, you automatically

0:38:11.560 --> 0:38:15.879
<v Speaker 1>become a tougher person because you've been knocked down and

0:38:16.640 --> 0:38:19.239
<v Speaker 1>you've in the process, you've just like grown this like

0:38:19.320 --> 0:38:23.040
<v Speaker 1>outer shield or whatever you want to call it, UM,

0:38:23.080 --> 0:38:25.480
<v Speaker 1>And nothing can hurt you as bad as that first

0:38:25.640 --> 0:38:28.680
<v Speaker 1>thing that happened to you that was traumatic. And I

0:38:28.680 --> 0:38:31.040
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it is. I always just call it snapping.

0:38:31.200 --> 0:38:34.359
<v Speaker 1>I just snapped, and I went home, and I saw

0:38:34.400 --> 0:38:38.799
<v Speaker 1>how disappointed my mom was, And UM, I know how

0:38:38.920 --> 0:38:41.920
<v Speaker 1>much she gave to my dad and to this family.

0:38:42.680 --> 0:38:45.279
<v Speaker 1>I know, like she took so much time off from work,

0:38:45.440 --> 0:38:49.480
<v Speaker 1>she was oh my god, probably in the deepest of depressions.

0:38:50.320 --> 0:38:52.760
<v Speaker 1>She actually just sent me a text with kissing emojis.

0:38:52.920 --> 0:38:55.439
<v Speaker 1>Isn't that weird? She literally just sent me that. That's

0:38:55.440 --> 0:38:58.640
<v Speaker 1>so strange. Um, But you know, she was just the

0:38:59.040 --> 0:39:01.520
<v Speaker 1>toughest of off. And I went home and I saw

0:39:01.520 --> 0:39:03.440
<v Speaker 1>how disappointed she was, and I think that she just

0:39:04.000 --> 0:39:06.799
<v Speaker 1>I was disappointed in the situation. No one did anything wrong.

0:39:06.880 --> 0:39:08.759
<v Speaker 1>My parents didn't treat me like ship like it was

0:39:08.800 --> 0:39:12.000
<v Speaker 1>just a shitty situation. And I think that part of

0:39:12.000 --> 0:39:14.960
<v Speaker 1>her was like, I'm so sorry that this has happened

0:39:15.000 --> 0:39:17.640
<v Speaker 1>to you. Like she was upset and disappointed, but I

0:39:17.640 --> 0:39:20.680
<v Speaker 1>think also part of her was like, I'm just so

0:39:20.719 --> 0:39:22.680
<v Speaker 1>sorry that this is the life. These are the cards

0:39:22.680 --> 0:39:25.200
<v Speaker 1>that you've been dealt, and this is clearly affecting you.

0:39:25.280 --> 0:39:27.840
<v Speaker 1>And maybe I was hoping that it wouldn't affect you

0:39:27.920 --> 0:39:30.080
<v Speaker 1>as much as it as it is. And I just

0:39:30.160 --> 0:39:33.759
<v Speaker 1>remember seeing that face and how upset she was, and

0:39:33.800 --> 0:39:35.799
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I cannot do this. My mom

0:39:35.800 --> 0:39:38.719
<v Speaker 1>has been through too much already. I need to be

0:39:38.760 --> 0:39:41.400
<v Speaker 1>the tough person that I am that my dad has

0:39:41.440 --> 0:39:43.400
<v Speaker 1>made me and my mom has made me, and I

0:39:43.440 --> 0:39:46.440
<v Speaker 1>need to I need to snap. I need to take

0:39:46.480 --> 0:39:48.000
<v Speaker 1>care of my mom like I promise. I need to

0:39:48.000 --> 0:39:49.640
<v Speaker 1>take care of my family like I promised. And this

0:39:49.800 --> 0:39:52.360
<v Speaker 1>is not taking care of This is adding more stress

0:39:52.400 --> 0:39:55.839
<v Speaker 1>and more pain. And I've already felt the worst of it.

0:39:56.160 --> 0:39:58.319
<v Speaker 1>I can be better and be stronger. And then I

0:39:58.360 --> 0:40:01.239
<v Speaker 1>just went back after Christmas or whatever it was Thanksgiving,

0:40:02.760 --> 0:40:04.520
<v Speaker 1>and I just I woke up one day and was

0:40:04.560 --> 0:40:06.440
<v Speaker 1>just like re energized, and I thought about my mom

0:40:06.520 --> 0:40:08.520
<v Speaker 1>all the time, and I thought about how sad she was,

0:40:08.560 --> 0:40:10.560
<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, I am not contributing to that.

0:40:10.600 --> 0:40:13.279
<v Speaker 1>There's no chance that I am going to be part

0:40:13.320 --> 0:40:15.560
<v Speaker 1>of the reason that my mom is worse off than

0:40:15.600 --> 0:40:17.600
<v Speaker 1>losing her husband. Like, I'm not going to add to that.

0:40:18.120 --> 0:40:19.960
<v Speaker 1>And so she was a really big part of me

0:40:20.040 --> 0:40:24.080
<v Speaker 1>going back and just going like full till crazy. And

0:40:24.360 --> 0:40:28.440
<v Speaker 1>you are incredibly smart and incredibly talented. Uh, not that

0:40:28.480 --> 0:40:31.759
<v Speaker 1>you deserve compliments from me, but in that uh And

0:40:32.000 --> 0:40:33.319
<v Speaker 1>and I don't want you to get used to them,

0:40:33.360 --> 0:40:36.719
<v Speaker 1>but in that in that scenario, it's also interesting to

0:40:36.760 --> 0:40:41.320
<v Speaker 1>me because people sometimes have talents and they aren't willing

0:40:41.360 --> 0:40:44.080
<v Speaker 1>to acknowledge them themselves that they have them, and so

0:40:44.200 --> 0:40:46.200
<v Speaker 1>they can fall back on Oh, this is just not

0:40:46.320 --> 0:40:48.160
<v Speaker 1>for me. I'll go back to something that's safe. So

0:40:48.280 --> 0:40:50.960
<v Speaker 1>you pour yourself into it. You already knew that you

0:40:50.960 --> 0:40:53.520
<v Speaker 1>were driven in some sense at sixteen, when you're doing

0:40:53.560 --> 0:40:57.040
<v Speaker 1>these local television reports. Uh, and what are you doing?

0:40:57.239 --> 0:40:59.320
<v Speaker 1>And and how quickly does it? The pivot happens. You

0:40:59.360 --> 0:41:02.400
<v Speaker 1>start getting as are you doing more television? Are you

0:41:02.440 --> 0:41:05.120
<v Speaker 1>doing more? Like? What what exactly are you doing while

0:41:05.120 --> 0:41:09.600
<v Speaker 1>you're in school? Um? I started looking for internships, and

0:41:09.640 --> 0:41:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I started being like, I am really good in the field,

0:41:11.719 --> 0:41:14.160
<v Speaker 1>so I need to start looking at like the local

0:41:14.200 --> 0:41:17.400
<v Speaker 1>news stations or um. You know. I was just expanding

0:41:17.560 --> 0:41:19.759
<v Speaker 1>my mind. I was like, how can I get better

0:41:19.800 --> 0:41:21.640
<v Speaker 1>at this? How can I do? I want to start

0:41:21.640 --> 0:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>branching out and do acting stuff like I was just

0:41:24.239 --> 0:41:26.560
<v Speaker 1>instead of like feeling sorry for myself all the time

0:41:26.640 --> 0:41:28.800
<v Speaker 1>and and thinking about other things that didn't matter or

0:41:28.840 --> 0:41:31.320
<v Speaker 1>didn't pertain to school, it was the complete opposite. I

0:41:31.400 --> 0:41:33.040
<v Speaker 1>was like, how do I be the best of the

0:41:33.080 --> 0:41:36.600
<v Speaker 1>best at this? UM? And I just poured all of that,

0:41:36.880 --> 0:41:40.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, sad energy that I did have into going

0:41:40.160 --> 0:41:42.600
<v Speaker 1>full throttle. So I did an internship with our local

0:41:42.600 --> 0:41:44.200
<v Speaker 1>news station that was in Toronto, which was like a

0:41:44.320 --> 0:41:46.160
<v Speaker 1>much bigger deal. I remember one of my first days

0:41:46.200 --> 0:41:49.239
<v Speaker 1>was like Osama bin Laden being shot and and and

0:41:49.560 --> 0:41:51.880
<v Speaker 1>assassinated or whatever happened. Um, and that was like the

0:41:51.960 --> 0:41:54.120
<v Speaker 1>first taste of like live news, and I was like,

0:41:54.160 --> 0:41:56.920
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, this is this isn't the Picnics that

0:41:56.960 --> 0:41:59.680
<v Speaker 1>I was covering. And on first local I was like

0:41:59.719 --> 0:42:02.560
<v Speaker 1>Allly moly, buckle up. Uh. And then for a really

0:42:02.600 --> 0:42:04.239
<v Speaker 1>long time I thought I wanted to do news, and

0:42:04.280 --> 0:42:07.400
<v Speaker 1>so I was like constantly trying to get in with

0:42:07.440 --> 0:42:09.680
<v Speaker 1>those spaces. Never once did I want to do sports.

0:42:09.960 --> 0:42:12.719
<v Speaker 1>I remember even at school we would have to like

0:42:12.800 --> 0:42:15.879
<v Speaker 1>sporting reports, and I was like, I hate this. I'm

0:42:15.880 --> 0:42:18.840
<v Speaker 1>not interested at all. I played the sports. I played volleyball.

0:42:18.880 --> 0:42:20.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm the athlete. I don't want to be talking about

0:42:20.480 --> 0:42:23.799
<v Speaker 1>other athletes. I just wasn't interested in whatsoever. So it's

0:42:23.880 --> 0:42:25.640
<v Speaker 1>hilarious what I've ended up doing with my life. But

0:42:26.560 --> 0:42:29.080
<v Speaker 1>um so yeah, I just like I just poured myself

0:42:29.080 --> 0:42:30.880
<v Speaker 1>in and I went I would stay up late, I

0:42:30.880 --> 0:42:33.520
<v Speaker 1>would be at school until you know they kicked me out,

0:42:33.680 --> 0:42:36.720
<v Speaker 1>editing pieces and and really branching out and just carrying

0:42:36.800 --> 0:42:40.440
<v Speaker 1>so much more. Really that wasn't were you good at volleyball?

0:42:40.480 --> 0:42:43.480
<v Speaker 1>By the way, I was excellent a volleyball. I didn't

0:42:43.480 --> 0:42:47.120
<v Speaker 1>have crazy hops, like I couldn't jump very so they

0:42:47.120 --> 0:42:48.799
<v Speaker 1>would oftentimes put me in the backup as like a

0:42:48.840 --> 0:42:52.279
<v Speaker 1>designated pass er. Um. But I was pretty good. Our

0:42:52.320 --> 0:42:55.920
<v Speaker 1>team wasn't great, But I played for thirteen years. Like

0:42:56.000 --> 0:42:57.600
<v Speaker 1>that was one thing that I kind of like after

0:42:57.680 --> 0:43:00.560
<v Speaker 1>I played hockey. U my mom was al players, so

0:43:00.600 --> 0:43:01.799
<v Speaker 1>she's like, why don't you try this? And so I

0:43:01.840 --> 0:43:05.040
<v Speaker 1>played rap like travel volleyball for thirteen years. It was insane.

0:43:05.760 --> 0:43:07.560
<v Speaker 1>I didn't even know there was travel volleyball. Is that

0:43:07.600 --> 0:43:10.120
<v Speaker 1>a Canadian thing? I think it might. Well, no, there's

0:43:10.120 --> 0:43:12.920
<v Speaker 1>a big amen travel volleyball in America. I don't know.

0:43:12.960 --> 0:43:15.120
<v Speaker 1>I've never even heard of anybody doing that. I'm sure

0:43:15.200 --> 0:43:17.400
<v Speaker 1>they do. Um, but there was like a lot of

0:43:17.400 --> 0:43:19.320
<v Speaker 1>girls in my high school were really into volleyball, and

0:43:19.560 --> 0:43:20.960
<v Speaker 1>I played when I was a junior. I played on

0:43:20.960 --> 0:43:25.120
<v Speaker 1>the senior team. That's how good I was. UM, And uh, yeah,

0:43:25.160 --> 0:43:26.879
<v Speaker 1>it was pretty competitive. It was fun. We were playing

0:43:26.960 --> 0:43:29.640
<v Speaker 1>tournaments like every weekend, all right, So you at that

0:43:29.680 --> 0:43:33.200
<v Speaker 1>point then have decided you've come through, Uh, the challenge

0:43:33.480 --> 0:43:36.759
<v Speaker 1>of finding motivation and everything else, and you kind of

0:43:36.800 --> 0:43:39.080
<v Speaker 1>know what you want to do. Do you feel like

0:43:39.160 --> 0:43:41.920
<v Speaker 1>school is unnecessary at that point because you're like, hey,

0:43:41.960 --> 0:43:43.920
<v Speaker 1>I know what I want to do for my career,

0:43:44.440 --> 0:43:46.760
<v Speaker 1>and you know, I think about this. For instance, at Fox,

0:43:47.200 --> 0:43:50.080
<v Speaker 1>two of our bosses, I think, uh, Eric Shanks and

0:43:50.160 --> 0:43:54.080
<v Speaker 1>Brad Zeiger, neither one of them finished college because they're like,

0:43:54.239 --> 0:43:56.200
<v Speaker 1>I want to do you know, sports production? I want

0:43:56.200 --> 0:43:59.680
<v Speaker 1>to and now obviously very successful at Fox. Did you

0:43:59.719 --> 0:44:01.600
<v Speaker 1>feel like you were just wasting your time at that

0:44:01.600 --> 0:44:04.800
<v Speaker 1>point in college where a little I mean university in

0:44:04.840 --> 0:44:07.040
<v Speaker 1>college is different in Canada. So if you're going to university,

0:44:07.080 --> 0:44:09.000
<v Speaker 1>you're going for four years, which is college in the

0:44:09.080 --> 0:44:12.400
<v Speaker 1>United States, right, But if you're going to college in Canada,

0:44:12.520 --> 0:44:15.319
<v Speaker 1>it's usually two years and it's usually some kind of

0:44:15.360 --> 0:44:18.879
<v Speaker 1>trade or it's more hands on. So if I were

0:44:18.920 --> 0:44:22.960
<v Speaker 1>to go to university for broadcast journalism in Canada, the

0:44:23.000 --> 0:44:26.400
<v Speaker 1>first two years would be writing essays and theories about whatever,

0:44:27.160 --> 0:44:30.200
<v Speaker 1>and then the final two years would be in studio,

0:44:30.280 --> 0:44:32.920
<v Speaker 1>getting your hands dirty, going out into the field. And

0:44:32.960 --> 0:44:34.200
<v Speaker 1>I was just like, I don't want to waste my

0:44:34.200 --> 0:44:36.200
<v Speaker 1>time with the first two years, like I've already been

0:44:36.200 --> 0:44:38.240
<v Speaker 1>out in the field. So I want to go to college.

0:44:38.280 --> 0:44:39.600
<v Speaker 1>I want to be done in two years, and I

0:44:39.640 --> 0:44:44.080
<v Speaker 1>want to be working in that third year. So um

0:44:44.120 --> 0:44:48.800
<v Speaker 1>so yeah. So by the second year, UM, I never finished.

0:44:48.880 --> 0:44:51.240
<v Speaker 1>I was missing one still to this day, i'm missing

0:44:51.280 --> 0:44:54.720
<v Speaker 1>one credit to graduate. I do not need it now. UM.

0:44:54.760 --> 0:44:57.360
<v Speaker 1>But I was going to go back uh for a

0:44:57.400 --> 0:45:01.359
<v Speaker 1>final semester. And then um or I was gonna go back.

0:45:01.360 --> 0:45:02.880
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna go back to school for theater. I

0:45:02.960 --> 0:45:05.239
<v Speaker 1>decided that I did not want to do broadcast. I

0:45:05.280 --> 0:45:08.279
<v Speaker 1>didn't want to do broadcasting anymore. For whatever reason, I

0:45:08.360 --> 0:45:10.640
<v Speaker 1>really enjoyed those improv classes, and I was just like,

0:45:10.640 --> 0:45:12.399
<v Speaker 1>I've always wanted to be an actor, Like why am

0:45:12.400 --> 0:45:15.200
<v Speaker 1>I still reading the news? This isn't exactly what I

0:45:15.239 --> 0:45:18.439
<v Speaker 1>want to do. I'm still thinking about acting all the time. Um.

0:45:18.480 --> 0:45:21.800
<v Speaker 1>And so I had one credit left and I was

0:45:21.840 --> 0:45:23.320
<v Speaker 1>just like, I'm not I'm not going to finish this

0:45:23.360 --> 0:45:25.000
<v Speaker 1>because I'm gonna go back to school for something else.

0:45:25.040 --> 0:45:28.439
<v Speaker 1>And then, in that interim period of deciding I wanted

0:45:28.440 --> 0:45:33.239
<v Speaker 1>to leave broadcast journalism behind and applying for universities for

0:45:33.320 --> 0:45:37.319
<v Speaker 1>theater programs, I got my first big job it's like

0:45:37.400 --> 0:45:41.799
<v Speaker 1>by accident. So then that kind of just led me astray.

0:45:41.920 --> 0:45:46.040
<v Speaker 1>So what was the job? So it was Toronto c

0:45:46.239 --> 0:45:50.040
<v Speaker 1>which is Major League soccer. It was the Dream Job contest,

0:45:50.280 --> 0:45:52.120
<v Speaker 1>So it wasn't even a job application. It was a

0:45:52.160 --> 0:45:54.239
<v Speaker 1>contest that I saw on Facebook and it was like,

0:45:54.280 --> 0:45:57.320
<v Speaker 1>whoever wins this contest gets to be on the jumble

0:45:57.400 --> 0:46:00.560
<v Speaker 1>tron at halftime and interview players and do all this

0:46:00.640 --> 0:46:01.960
<v Speaker 1>like fun stuff. And I was like, oh, this could

0:46:01.960 --> 0:46:04.600
<v Speaker 1>be like a perfect side thing while I'm going to school.

0:46:04.880 --> 0:46:06.360
<v Speaker 1>I still get to be in front of a camera.

0:46:07.280 --> 0:46:09.320
<v Speaker 1>I still get to, you know, like play in that space.

0:46:09.800 --> 0:46:11.799
<v Speaker 1>So like, why not, I'm probably not gonna win. I

0:46:11.800 --> 0:46:14.080
<v Speaker 1>don't know much about soccer, so let me just like apply.

0:46:14.880 --> 0:46:18.520
<v Speaker 1>So I applied and just from my so you applied

0:46:18.520 --> 0:46:21.400
<v Speaker 1>by how like doing a video? Like what's what's the application?

0:46:21.560 --> 0:46:24.480
<v Speaker 1>First application process was literally just an application. It was

0:46:24.520 --> 0:46:27.759
<v Speaker 1>like who are you? Why do you want this job? Um?

0:46:27.840 --> 0:46:31.520
<v Speaker 1>And I cracked top fifteen just by my application, and

0:46:31.680 --> 0:46:36.120
<v Speaker 1>my application was a little inappropriated. I made some I

0:46:36.200 --> 0:46:40.520
<v Speaker 1>made some choice. I the first I don't know how

0:46:40.560 --> 0:46:43.600
<v Speaker 1>I got hired off this, but the first line you

0:46:43.600 --> 0:46:45.319
<v Speaker 1>have to kind of like write a like a mini

0:46:45.440 --> 0:46:49.160
<v Speaker 1>essay on why you should be hired. The first line

0:46:49.360 --> 0:46:53.560
<v Speaker 1>of my essay was besides my love for balls dot

0:46:53.600 --> 0:46:57.560
<v Speaker 1>dot dot, this is why you should hire me. That

0:46:57.760 --> 0:47:01.840
<v Speaker 1>got me to crack the top fifteen. Somehow I have

0:47:01.960 --> 0:47:03.919
<v Speaker 1>not some of that must have line must have caught

0:47:03.960 --> 0:47:07.759
<v Speaker 1>somebody's eye. Um so you're handwriting this or do you

0:47:07.800 --> 0:47:11.200
<v Speaker 1>like you're typing this online submission? It was an online submission.

0:47:11.960 --> 0:47:14.880
<v Speaker 1>Did you spend on the online submission? Oh? I remember,

0:47:14.960 --> 0:47:17.200
<v Speaker 1>like just like saying screw it, I'm not gonna win this.

0:47:17.440 --> 0:47:19.960
<v Speaker 1>So I remember maybe like twenty minutes, just like a

0:47:20.120 --> 0:47:22.080
<v Speaker 1>quick type up like who are you? How old? Do

0:47:22.200 --> 0:47:25.600
<v Speaker 1>you send us a picture? And why you want this job? So?

0:47:26.480 --> 0:47:30.200
<v Speaker 1>Um so I cracked top fifteen, and then top fifteen

0:47:30.280 --> 0:47:31.920
<v Speaker 1>had to send in a video, and I was just like,

0:47:31.960 --> 0:47:34.920
<v Speaker 1>oh man, now I got this in the bag. So

0:47:35.080 --> 0:47:39.520
<v Speaker 1>I made uh like a two minute sketch comedy sketch

0:47:39.560 --> 0:47:42.040
<v Speaker 1>on why I should be hired. And I got this

0:47:42.080 --> 0:47:44.919
<v Speaker 1>guy to put on a brown wig and do keep

0:47:44.920 --> 0:47:46.880
<v Speaker 1>you up eas like keep ups with a football with

0:47:46.920 --> 0:47:50.320
<v Speaker 1>a soccer ball, and wear a duke, and we shot

0:47:50.320 --> 0:47:53.040
<v Speaker 1>it as if it looked like I was doing, so

0:47:53.080 --> 0:47:55.040
<v Speaker 1>they're like, oh, this girl is funny. And then I

0:47:55.120 --> 0:47:57.600
<v Speaker 1>cracked the cracked the top five. That video is still

0:47:57.600 --> 0:48:00.000
<v Speaker 1>available to watch on YouTube. By the way, I cracked

0:48:00.040 --> 0:48:02.279
<v Speaker 1>the top five, and I was just like, how do

0:48:02.360 --> 0:48:04.240
<v Speaker 1>you mean you crack the top five? Like people vote,

0:48:04.440 --> 0:48:06.840
<v Speaker 1>like how are you? How do you know where you're ranking.

0:48:06.880 --> 0:48:09.359
<v Speaker 1>I think it was a combination of people voting and

0:48:09.400 --> 0:48:12.840
<v Speaker 1>also uh, their choice, like toront his choice. So I

0:48:12.880 --> 0:48:14.360
<v Speaker 1>think that they thought that was funny and that I

0:48:14.400 --> 0:48:16.719
<v Speaker 1>could do some different things, and they're like, all right,

0:48:16.760 --> 0:48:18.960
<v Speaker 1>this girl's entertaining, like let's let's bring her in for

0:48:19.000 --> 0:48:23.000
<v Speaker 1>an interview. Um. So then I was top five and

0:48:23.120 --> 0:48:25.680
<v Speaker 1>I went in for an interview and they know nothing

0:48:25.719 --> 0:48:29.839
<v Speaker 1>about soccer, like Toronto captains. I had the captain's name,

0:48:30.000 --> 0:48:33.800
<v Speaker 1>Porston Springs written in ink on my hand for the interview,

0:48:34.520 --> 0:48:36.239
<v Speaker 1>so you could come out and like cheat if you

0:48:36.280 --> 0:48:37.799
<v Speaker 1>need to, So I could look down and say if

0:48:37.800 --> 0:48:39.200
<v Speaker 1>they asked me any questions, I could be like, at

0:48:39.239 --> 0:48:41.160
<v Speaker 1>least I know who the captain is. I can I

0:48:41.160 --> 0:48:46.120
<v Speaker 1>can work Towards and Springs into my bullshitting um and uh.

0:48:46.160 --> 0:48:47.719
<v Speaker 1>And I just like I won them over in the

0:48:47.719 --> 0:48:52.319
<v Speaker 1>meeting I was myself and uh. I remember I was

0:48:52.400 --> 0:48:54.560
<v Speaker 1>working at the time at a bar. There was a

0:48:54.640 --> 0:49:00.520
<v Speaker 1>torontof Sea bar um and so as a bartender, as

0:49:00.600 --> 0:49:04.560
<v Speaker 1>a as a server, and so the final process of

0:49:04.560 --> 0:49:06.560
<v Speaker 1>this contest, that is, they were going to invite all

0:49:06.600 --> 0:49:09.520
<v Speaker 1>of us to center field at half time and announced

0:49:09.520 --> 0:49:11.640
<v Speaker 1>the winner. There was five of us left, but I

0:49:11.680 --> 0:49:14.359
<v Speaker 1>had to work the shift before the game. So I

0:49:14.400 --> 0:49:16.839
<v Speaker 1>was in the in the restaurant serving all of these

0:49:16.920 --> 0:49:19.080
<v Speaker 1>Toronto Sea fans. And then my bosses let me go

0:49:19.239 --> 0:49:21.840
<v Speaker 1>to the game to see if I won the contest,

0:49:21.880 --> 0:49:23.520
<v Speaker 1>and my mom was with me, and it was raining,

0:49:24.000 --> 0:49:25.680
<v Speaker 1>and I remember before we even went in, I was like, Mom,

0:49:25.680 --> 0:49:26.920
<v Speaker 1>I don't want to do this, like I'm not gonna win.

0:49:26.920 --> 0:49:28.919
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna be embarrassed in front of the twenty people

0:49:28.920 --> 0:49:30.719
<v Speaker 1>that are sitting in the stands right now. And She's

0:49:30.760 --> 0:49:33.000
<v Speaker 1>like just go, like it's fine. What if you do

0:49:33.120 --> 0:49:37.120
<v Speaker 1>win then? Uh? And I remember a halftime it was raining.

0:49:37.120 --> 0:49:39.680
<v Speaker 1>They pulled us all out in the middle field and

0:49:39.760 --> 0:49:42.600
<v Speaker 1>they called my name and I was just like, oh

0:49:42.600 --> 0:49:47.759
<v Speaker 1>my god, I won and I sprinted. I shook some

0:49:47.880 --> 0:49:50.959
<v Speaker 1>hands like oh my god, this is and I sprinted

0:49:51.040 --> 0:49:53.680
<v Speaker 1>to my mom because I knew where she was sitting,

0:49:53.680 --> 0:49:56.200
<v Speaker 1>and we just like held each other and cried because

0:49:56.200 --> 0:49:58.080
<v Speaker 1>this was the first win. This was my first win.

0:49:58.960 --> 0:50:03.480
<v Speaker 1>I didn't finish school. Dad passes away, which procious first semester.

0:50:03.840 --> 0:50:05.319
<v Speaker 1>Holy crap, I just want to I just beat up

0:50:05.320 --> 0:50:07.800
<v Speaker 1>five people for this job that I probably did not deserve.

0:50:08.600 --> 0:50:11.120
<v Speaker 1>So her and I were just sobbing in each other's arms, like,

0:50:11.160 --> 0:50:12.719
<v Speaker 1>oh my God, Like I'm gonna be able to take

0:50:12.719 --> 0:50:14.279
<v Speaker 1>care of myself, You're not gonna have to pay my rent,

0:50:14.400 --> 0:50:16.400
<v Speaker 1>me more, all of these things. It was just like

0:50:16.400 --> 0:50:20.080
<v Speaker 1>a really beautiful moment. Uh. And then I was like, Okay,

0:50:20.120 --> 0:50:23.719
<v Speaker 1>I guess I'm gonna blow off school for a little

0:50:23.760 --> 0:50:26.200
<v Speaker 1>bit longer and be this host because they hired me

0:50:26.239 --> 0:50:29.640
<v Speaker 1>for some reason. They hired me Monday to Friday five,

0:50:30.280 --> 0:50:32.080
<v Speaker 1>but I was an arena host, like they wanted me

0:50:32.120 --> 0:50:34.760
<v Speaker 1>to do so much more than the initial job entailed.

0:50:34.800 --> 0:50:37.839
<v Speaker 1>So I was just like, Okay, they paid me forty dollars.

0:50:37.880 --> 0:50:40.600
<v Speaker 1>I was like, that's an instant amount of money. Yeah,

0:50:42.440 --> 0:50:45.040
<v Speaker 1>you're what twenty years old. I'm twenty years old at

0:50:45.040 --> 0:50:50.879
<v Speaker 1>the time. Yeah. Uh, that's literally the jackpot. You think

0:50:50.880 --> 0:50:55.640
<v Speaker 1>you're rich with compared to the other twenty year olds,

0:50:55.640 --> 0:51:00.719
<v Speaker 1>and so what does that job entail? Held nothing and

0:51:00.920 --> 0:51:03.440
<v Speaker 1>entailed absolutely nothing. I had to go and show up

0:51:03.440 --> 0:51:05.880
<v Speaker 1>on the weekends and be the arena hosts. But because

0:51:05.920 --> 0:51:08.120
<v Speaker 1>I was sitting at a desk every single day and

0:51:08.160 --> 0:51:12.160
<v Speaker 1>going berserk with boredom, YouTube was hot and fresh. I

0:51:12.160 --> 0:51:15.160
<v Speaker 1>started making usy videos, and I started making sketches within

0:51:15.200 --> 0:51:17.680
<v Speaker 1>the office and doing like weekly videos that I would

0:51:17.680 --> 0:51:20.759
<v Speaker 1>put out that the fans could watch, and um, those

0:51:20.800 --> 0:51:23.400
<v Speaker 1>like kind of blew up in in like small YouTube terms,

0:51:24.040 --> 0:51:27.480
<v Speaker 1>and uh, Major League Soccer. The head office in New

0:51:27.560 --> 0:51:31.239
<v Speaker 1>York City started seeing these videos and being like, we

0:51:31.320 --> 0:51:33.200
<v Speaker 1>really like what you're doing, or would you ever be

0:51:33.200 --> 0:51:35.600
<v Speaker 1>interested in moving to New York City? And I had

0:51:35.600 --> 0:51:37.959
<v Speaker 1>been to New York City one time in my life

0:51:38.000 --> 0:51:40.800
<v Speaker 1>before that, and I had um, oh, I can't remember

0:51:40.800 --> 0:51:42.520
<v Speaker 1>the name of it. I think a Carnegie Delhi. Does

0:51:42.560 --> 0:51:44.400
<v Speaker 1>that sound right? I had a Deli napkin from New

0:51:44.480 --> 0:51:47.959
<v Speaker 1>York City posted on my cubicle because I just loved

0:51:48.040 --> 0:51:51.000
<v Speaker 1>New York City so much. Um and I even had

0:51:51.000 --> 0:51:53.160
<v Speaker 1>written a contract to myself. I still have it. When

0:51:53.200 --> 0:51:55.480
<v Speaker 1>I was about ten years old, I Rachel Bannetta will

0:51:55.520 --> 0:51:59.000
<v Speaker 1>live in New York City by the time I'm twenty three, uh,

0:51:59.000 --> 0:52:02.440
<v Speaker 1>and like signed with a in and everything. Uh. And

0:52:02.480 --> 0:52:05.000
<v Speaker 1>so I spent a couple of years in Toronto, got

0:52:05.000 --> 0:52:07.120
<v Speaker 1>this email, maybe like a year and a half in

0:52:07.560 --> 0:52:09.239
<v Speaker 1>and they were like, we would like, we would like

0:52:09.280 --> 0:52:10.560
<v Speaker 1>to bring you out to New York City if you're

0:52:10.560 --> 0:52:12.879
<v Speaker 1>willing to move here. And so that's how I got

0:52:12.920 --> 0:52:16.359
<v Speaker 1>to from Toronto to New York. What do you think

0:52:16.360 --> 0:52:18.319
<v Speaker 1>would have happened if you hadn't seen that Facebook ad?

0:52:20.000 --> 0:52:22.400
<v Speaker 1>I have no idea. I would probably be a waitress

0:52:22.400 --> 0:52:23.960
<v Speaker 1>in Toronto trying to make it as an actress. And

0:52:24.000 --> 0:52:26.120
<v Speaker 1>that sounds super depressing to me. There's so many points

0:52:26.160 --> 0:52:27.800
<v Speaker 1>in my career, as I'm sure we'll keep on talking

0:52:27.840 --> 0:52:29.959
<v Speaker 1>that I could have gone left, but I went right,

0:52:30.080 --> 0:52:33.759
<v Speaker 1>and I have no idea what would have happened if

0:52:33.760 --> 0:52:36.400
<v Speaker 1>I went left? Like it's insane. So you go to

0:52:36.520 --> 0:52:38.600
<v Speaker 1>you take the MLS job, and I'm curious, I want

0:52:38.640 --> 0:52:40.799
<v Speaker 1>to go back again because you said you're just bored

0:52:40.840 --> 0:52:43.759
<v Speaker 1>at the office nine to five, like you are on

0:52:44.000 --> 0:52:47.160
<v Speaker 1>you know, doing the games for Toronto FC. But that's

0:52:47.160 --> 0:52:48.640
<v Speaker 1>where you come up with the idea of Hey, I'm

0:52:48.640 --> 0:52:51.239
<v Speaker 1>going to do these videos? Do you ask anybody for permission?

0:52:51.400 --> 0:52:53.960
<v Speaker 1>How do you go about taking the initiative there? Well,

0:52:54.000 --> 0:52:55.839
<v Speaker 1>I knew how to operate a camera, I knew how

0:52:55.840 --> 0:52:57.320
<v Speaker 1>to set up a tripod, and I knew how to

0:52:57.360 --> 0:52:59.000
<v Speaker 1>plug plug in a mic. So I was just like,

0:52:59.360 --> 0:53:00.840
<v Speaker 1>do you as mind a Like, I'm just like I

0:53:00.840 --> 0:53:02.640
<v Speaker 1>got an idea. I'm just gonna go like shoot some

0:53:02.640 --> 0:53:05.160
<v Speaker 1>stuff from I'm not doing anything anyways, and they're like, yeah,

0:53:05.320 --> 0:53:06.759
<v Speaker 1>go go give it a shot. And I also knew

0:53:06.760 --> 0:53:09.439
<v Speaker 1>how to edit, So I was going around and first

0:53:09.520 --> 0:53:11.640
<v Speaker 1>I did these things called six and sixty, so six

0:53:11.680 --> 0:53:14.359
<v Speaker 1>things to know about the game in sixty seconds. So

0:53:14.480 --> 0:53:17.400
<v Speaker 1>I would go around the stadium six different spots and

0:53:17.440 --> 0:53:20.120
<v Speaker 1>I'd be like, game time is six pm, and then

0:53:20.200 --> 0:53:22.799
<v Speaker 1>like joke, joke, joke and character character character, and then

0:53:22.880 --> 0:53:25.160
<v Speaker 1>number two would be like, you guys are gonna want

0:53:25.160 --> 0:53:28.120
<v Speaker 1>to take the t TC, which is our trans transportation

0:53:28.440 --> 0:53:31.640
<v Speaker 1>um like buses and trains and stuff like that in Toronto, uh,

0:53:31.680 --> 0:53:33.719
<v Speaker 1>and give them like traffic reports. And it was all

0:53:33.760 --> 0:53:36.399
<v Speaker 1>it was like sixty seconds of just like fun. Uh.

0:53:36.440 --> 0:53:38.760
<v Speaker 1>And I shot them myself, I wrote them myself, I

0:53:38.920 --> 0:53:41.399
<v Speaker 1>vowed them, I edited them, and I put them all

0:53:41.440 --> 0:53:43.480
<v Speaker 1>out myself. I just showed them like one or two

0:53:43.480 --> 0:53:44.839
<v Speaker 1>and they're like, yeah, they look cool. Let's just put

0:53:44.840 --> 0:53:47.080
<v Speaker 1>them on the on my YouTube on our YouTube channel,

0:53:47.480 --> 0:53:49.920
<v Speaker 1>which was like not of consequence at the time because

0:53:49.920 --> 0:53:52.840
<v Speaker 1>it was brand new and you know, uh, and so

0:53:52.920 --> 0:53:54.480
<v Speaker 1>they put it up. But then people started to like them.

0:53:54.480 --> 0:53:56.680
<v Speaker 1>So I started making more and more in depth and

0:53:56.760 --> 0:53:59.799
<v Speaker 1>more creative and more weird, and like someone got really weird.

0:54:00.680 --> 0:54:02.759
<v Speaker 1>But that's what MLS noticed and that's what they liked,

0:54:02.840 --> 0:54:06.359
<v Speaker 1>so led me here. Oh yeah, for sure. Probably if

0:54:06.360 --> 0:54:10.560
<v Speaker 1>you oh gosh, if you searched Rachel Bannetta six and

0:54:10.600 --> 0:54:14.160
<v Speaker 1>sixty t t FC, I'm sure you'd find some real gems.

0:54:14.560 --> 0:54:16.759
<v Speaker 1>So you get So this is pretty wild. It means

0:54:16.760 --> 0:54:20.600
<v Speaker 1>a pretty fast trajectory, right. You you get hired by

0:54:20.680 --> 0:54:24.160
<v Speaker 1>Toronto FC. You you start to establish yourself. You're fortunate

0:54:24.200 --> 0:54:26.759
<v Speaker 1>in that the MLS is still like kind of a

0:54:26.800 --> 0:54:29.560
<v Speaker 1>new league, and obviously you're experimenting in a new arena

0:54:29.680 --> 0:54:33.320
<v Speaker 1>with YouTube and kind of the social ability to advertise

0:54:33.360 --> 0:54:35.239
<v Speaker 1>in that way. And you get to MLS and what

0:54:35.239 --> 0:54:38.279
<v Speaker 1>do you do in New York? What's your job there? So? Uh,

0:54:38.360 --> 0:54:40.120
<v Speaker 1>in New York. It's kind of like Free Range. They're like,

0:54:40.120 --> 0:54:42.440
<v Speaker 1>we want you to be our digital host. So anything

0:54:42.480 --> 0:54:44.480
<v Speaker 1>we need you for, we want you to do, we

0:54:44.520 --> 0:54:46.960
<v Speaker 1>want to develop shows for you. So I got the

0:54:47.000 --> 0:54:49.279
<v Speaker 1>show called Off Topic with Rachel Benetta, which is where

0:54:49.280 --> 0:54:51.560
<v Speaker 1>I would like travel and meet up with an athlete

0:54:51.560 --> 0:54:53.359
<v Speaker 1>and we would go out something, go out and do

0:54:53.440 --> 0:54:55.359
<v Speaker 1>something that had nothing to do with what they did

0:54:55.400 --> 0:54:57.359
<v Speaker 1>on the field. We would like go bowling or go

0:54:58.000 --> 0:55:00.120
<v Speaker 1>you know, seeker shopping or whatever. And I was just

0:55:00.160 --> 0:55:02.120
<v Speaker 1>it was all personality driven. It was like literally just

0:55:02.160 --> 0:55:04.000
<v Speaker 1>me hanging out with these dudes. And again those became

0:55:04.080 --> 0:55:07.359
<v Speaker 1>so popular that we had athletes coming to us and

0:55:07.400 --> 0:55:11.200
<v Speaker 1>being like we would like to do this, which was

0:55:11.239 --> 0:55:13.680
<v Speaker 1>insane because there was still I only spent a year

0:55:13.680 --> 0:55:17.120
<v Speaker 1>with them less. It all happened so so quickly. Um

0:55:17.160 --> 0:55:19.960
<v Speaker 1>so just like really fun, personality driven stuff. And I

0:55:20.000 --> 0:55:22.000
<v Speaker 1>would also still do like comedy sketches that I would

0:55:22.000 --> 0:55:25.919
<v Speaker 1>write and we would put out, um and uh yeah.

0:55:25.960 --> 0:55:27.600
<v Speaker 1>It was like all Free Rangers are like, we willing

0:55:27.680 --> 0:55:29.080
<v Speaker 1>to keep on doing what you like to do, and

0:55:29.120 --> 0:55:30.600
<v Speaker 1>what you like to do is being yourself. So it

0:55:30.680 --> 0:55:33.080
<v Speaker 1>was pretty It was a pretty fun job be sure

0:55:33.120 --> 0:55:35.400
<v Speaker 1>to catch live editions of Out Kicked the coverage with

0:55:35.480 --> 0:55:40.880
<v Speaker 1>Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern three am Pacific. Alright,

0:55:40.920 --> 0:55:44.920
<v Speaker 1>So part of social media and the YouTube universe and

0:55:45.040 --> 0:55:47.880
<v Speaker 1>just people being able to reach out to you comes

0:55:47.960 --> 0:55:50.959
<v Speaker 1>with some negativity. Were you getting almost all positive stuff

0:55:51.000 --> 0:55:53.960
<v Speaker 1>because soccer fans tend to be a happy, go lucky group,

0:55:54.120 --> 0:55:56.680
<v Speaker 1>or were you getting because one of the challenges I

0:55:56.719 --> 0:55:59.399
<v Speaker 1>think people have in general is putting themselves out there

0:55:59.480 --> 0:56:02.880
<v Speaker 1>having this health confidence or the tough skin. And obviously

0:56:03.239 --> 0:56:05.480
<v Speaker 1>just from the lifestyle that you have led, maybe your

0:56:05.520 --> 0:56:07.960
<v Speaker 1>skin was tougher than most. But I feel like that's

0:56:07.960 --> 0:56:09.960
<v Speaker 1>a big challenge, especially for people who were in their

0:56:10.000 --> 0:56:13.520
<v Speaker 1>young twenties, because you may not you know, you don't

0:56:13.520 --> 0:56:16.000
<v Speaker 1>have bubble wrap. People are mean on the internet. Did

0:56:16.040 --> 0:56:17.960
<v Speaker 1>you read any of that or you just didn't read

0:56:18.000 --> 0:56:19.840
<v Speaker 1>the comments or you haven't didn't really have it as

0:56:19.840 --> 0:56:24.080
<v Speaker 1>an issue? Um. I mean, I I feel like, knock

0:56:24.120 --> 0:56:27.400
<v Speaker 1>on wood, I've been really, really lucky even up until

0:56:27.400 --> 0:56:28.799
<v Speaker 1>this point in my career that people tend to be

0:56:28.800 --> 0:56:32.840
<v Speaker 1>pretty nice to me on social media. Um, but I

0:56:32.880 --> 0:56:36.240
<v Speaker 1>think that when I was at MLS, it is such

0:56:36.280 --> 0:56:41.120
<v Speaker 1>a niche sport. There is not a ton of It's

0:56:41.160 --> 0:56:43.160
<v Speaker 1>growing for sure, but there's still a not a ton

0:56:43.200 --> 0:56:47.120
<v Speaker 1>of people that watch. Uh I'm alive. So I was

0:56:47.160 --> 0:56:49.319
<v Speaker 1>putting all these new videos who which were very new.

0:56:49.600 --> 0:56:53.120
<v Speaker 1>They've never seen anything really like this female host digital host,

0:56:53.280 --> 0:56:55.560
<v Speaker 1>she knows a bit about soccer. Okay, this is cool.

0:56:56.280 --> 0:56:59.239
<v Speaker 1>That has probably been the time in my career that

0:56:59.280 --> 0:57:01.960
<v Speaker 1>I have been like wreck niced in airports, more in malls.

0:57:01.960 --> 0:57:04.080
<v Speaker 1>People would come up to me at restaurants because it's

0:57:04.080 --> 0:57:07.840
<v Speaker 1>so niche. People want to soak up like every single

0:57:08.000 --> 0:57:11.960
<v Speaker 1>ounce of content that we have um and and soccer

0:57:12.000 --> 0:57:15.520
<v Speaker 1>fans are hardcore, like they're really into their teams. Um

0:57:15.880 --> 0:57:17.919
<v Speaker 1>So it was really cool, like that was the first

0:57:17.960 --> 0:57:19.760
<v Speaker 1>time that I actually felt like, oh my gosh, this

0:57:19.840 --> 0:57:21.400
<v Speaker 1>is like a nice feeling. People like what I'm doing.

0:57:21.440 --> 0:57:23.640
<v Speaker 1>People are watching what I'm doing. They're starting to follow

0:57:23.680 --> 0:57:25.520
<v Speaker 1>me on social media. People are coming up to me

0:57:25.600 --> 0:57:27.800
<v Speaker 1>in the stands at soccer games and being like, oh

0:57:27.840 --> 0:57:29.520
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm such a big fan off topic or

0:57:29.520 --> 0:57:30.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm such a big fan to get me in there

0:57:30.680 --> 0:57:32.920
<v Speaker 1>the other show I was doing. So it was a

0:57:33.000 --> 0:57:35.760
<v Speaker 1>really exciting time. I remember the first time I hit

0:57:35.800 --> 0:57:39.240
<v Speaker 1>like ten thousand followers on Twitter. Iuse was like, oh

0:57:39.280 --> 0:57:41.800
<v Speaker 1>my god, I'm famous. And then people whenever I would

0:57:41.840 --> 0:57:43.919
<v Speaker 1>go home, people started calling me Hollywood and I wasn't

0:57:43.920 --> 0:57:46.440
<v Speaker 1>even living in l A. But just the even those

0:57:46.880 --> 0:57:49.560
<v Speaker 1>so miniscul members compared to you know, people on social

0:57:49.600 --> 0:57:53.439
<v Speaker 1>media today. Um, but it was a really exciting time

0:57:53.480 --> 0:57:54.800
<v Speaker 1>for me. I so it's like, oh my gosh, people

0:57:54.800 --> 0:57:56.240
<v Speaker 1>like what I'm doing. This is really cool. So it

0:57:56.320 --> 0:57:58.880
<v Speaker 1>was also huge boost and confidence as well. So what

0:57:58.960 --> 0:58:06.320
<v Speaker 1>happens then? So I was about six months into that job,

0:58:06.440 --> 0:58:09.680
<v Speaker 1>and again, um, people started seeing what I was doing,

0:58:10.920 --> 0:58:14.080
<v Speaker 1>and all of a sudden, I had ESPN and Fox

0:58:14.080 --> 0:58:16.840
<v Speaker 1>Sports knocking on my door. And I have never told

0:58:16.840 --> 0:58:19.240
<v Speaker 1>this story publicly. I told the story to you last week.

0:58:19.240 --> 0:58:22.760
<v Speaker 1>And it took me a while to agree to tell

0:58:22.800 --> 0:58:24.680
<v Speaker 1>this story, but I guess I guess I'll put it

0:58:24.720 --> 0:58:29.320
<v Speaker 1>out there now. Um. So, uh, ESPN gave me a

0:58:29.360 --> 0:58:32.360
<v Speaker 1>really great offer and I was still up to my

0:58:32.680 --> 0:58:36.320
<v Speaker 1>ears in debt, and um, I just started dating somebody

0:58:36.400 --> 0:58:38.640
<v Speaker 1>new in New York City who's still my current boyfriend now.

0:58:39.280 --> 0:58:42.040
<v Speaker 1>And uh, as much as the offer with Fox Sports

0:58:42.040 --> 0:58:43.720
<v Speaker 1>sounded like awesome, like oh my god, I want to

0:58:43.720 --> 0:58:44.960
<v Speaker 1>move to l A. Oh my god, I want to

0:58:44.960 --> 0:58:46.800
<v Speaker 1>work for the same company as Jay and Dan, who

0:58:46.800 --> 0:58:51.480
<v Speaker 1>are like kings Kings Kings Kings from where I come from.

0:58:51.600 --> 0:58:54.960
<v Speaker 1>Um uh, Like every every sign pointed to Fox Sports,

0:58:54.960 --> 0:58:56.439
<v Speaker 1>but I was like, I don't want to move New York.

0:58:56.480 --> 0:58:59.800
<v Speaker 1>I haven't even been living here a year yet, and

0:59:00.120 --> 0:59:04.200
<v Speaker 1>more money, and so I chose ESPN. Plot twist. I

0:59:04.240 --> 0:59:06.760
<v Speaker 1>said not to Fox Sports at first, and I went

0:59:06.800 --> 0:59:11.920
<v Speaker 1>down the route of ESPN and um, everything was Seinfield delivered.

0:59:11.920 --> 0:59:13.480
<v Speaker 1>They gave me my offer. I was like, a yes,

0:59:13.600 --> 0:59:18.120
<v Speaker 1>police bank account is going to be looking good. They

0:59:18.160 --> 0:59:22.600
<v Speaker 1>they got me my visa approved. Like everything was Seinfield delivered.

0:59:23.440 --> 0:59:26.320
<v Speaker 1>And I was about to go to Africa because I

0:59:26.360 --> 0:59:29.000
<v Speaker 1>just started volunteering with a nonprofit. I was like weeks

0:59:29.040 --> 0:59:31.280
<v Speaker 1>away from going Africa. Um, and I was going to

0:59:31.360 --> 0:59:33.400
<v Speaker 1>go to Africa, like the beginning of December and then January.

0:59:33.480 --> 0:59:35.920
<v Speaker 1>Oh one, I was supposed to start with ESPN. So

0:59:38.080 --> 0:59:41.320
<v Speaker 1>what year, Um, this was about like three and four,

0:59:41.560 --> 0:59:46.560
<v Speaker 1>three years ago. So twenty six, you tell your mom, Hey,

0:59:46.560 --> 0:59:49.640
<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna go work at ESPNE. I said, oh my god, Mom,

0:59:49.760 --> 0:59:52.400
<v Speaker 1>I am gonna make in bee bee beep at ESPN,

0:59:52.440 --> 0:59:57.520
<v Speaker 1>and she's just like, holy ship. It was. It was amazing,

0:59:57.600 --> 0:59:59.600
<v Speaker 1>Like it was such an exciting time. Not that money

0:59:59.680 --> 1:00:01.760
<v Speaker 1>is everything, but it was just like again, like, oh

1:00:01.800 --> 1:00:03.200
<v Speaker 1>my god, You're gonna be able to be on your

1:00:03.240 --> 1:00:04.600
<v Speaker 1>own now and I don't have to worry about you

1:00:04.600 --> 1:00:05.880
<v Speaker 1>so much. You're gonna be able to pay off all

1:00:05.880 --> 1:00:07.640
<v Speaker 1>your debt, You're gonna be living in New York City,

1:00:07.680 --> 1:00:09.120
<v Speaker 1>you got a you got a nice boyfriend that I

1:00:09.200 --> 1:00:11.320
<v Speaker 1>really like. Like from her point of view, she was

1:00:11.400 --> 1:00:16.680
<v Speaker 1>just like, thank Jesus all Olivia. Um and so accepted

1:00:16.680 --> 1:00:19.479
<v Speaker 1>everything everything Seinfield delivered. I remember I kept my ten

1:00:19.880 --> 1:00:22.120
<v Speaker 1>that my agent gave me to sign the contract. I

1:00:22.120 --> 1:00:26.120
<v Speaker 1>think I still probably have it somewhere. That is how

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<v Speaker 1>well it's like ESPN, you know, like that's it's like

1:00:28.640 --> 1:00:31.600
<v Speaker 1>a crazy I came from or no, No No, and all

1:00:31.600 --> 1:00:34.200
<v Speaker 1>of a sudden, now I have Fox Sports and ESPN

1:00:34.280 --> 1:00:36.800
<v Speaker 1>knocking on my door, two of the biggest sports places

1:00:36.800 --> 1:00:39.200
<v Speaker 1>in the entire world. Holy crap. How did I end

1:00:39.280 --> 1:00:43.000
<v Speaker 1>up here? Um? And uh and So I signed everything

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<v Speaker 1>everything Seinfield delivered sent off about a couple of days

1:00:46.480 --> 1:00:50.760
<v Speaker 1>before I leave for Africa. Um My, what would have been.

1:00:50.760 --> 1:00:52.960
<v Speaker 1>My boss and I were chatting. We were like excited.

1:00:53.000 --> 1:00:55.160
<v Speaker 1>We're talking about like where where my guest was gonna be.

1:00:55.200 --> 1:00:56.919
<v Speaker 1>I was gonna still work out in Manhattan. I wasn't

1:00:56.920 --> 1:01:00.480
<v Speaker 1>gonna have to go to Bristol um and Uh. I

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<v Speaker 1>on an email from HR and they were like, hey,

1:01:03.480 --> 1:01:05.880
<v Speaker 1>because we offered you the job and everything's like all

1:01:05.880 --> 1:01:09.040
<v Speaker 1>Sinfield delivered. You didn't apply like a normal person, So

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<v Speaker 1>we don't have any information about you. We don't have

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<v Speaker 1>your email, we don't have your phone number, we don't

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<v Speaker 1>have your emergency contact, we don't have your resume, like nothing,

1:01:16.200 --> 1:01:18.200
<v Speaker 1>and as HR, we need all of those things to

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<v Speaker 1>put on file. And I was like, sure, no problems,

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<v Speaker 1>send send your applications like whatever, I'll fill it all out.

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<v Speaker 1>So um, I'm filling it out. It's like emergency contact,

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<v Speaker 1>cell phone number, email, did it out? Where did you

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<v Speaker 1>go to school? What years did you go to I

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<v Speaker 1>went Seneca College from two thousand seven to two thousand

1:01:34.960 --> 1:01:39.880
<v Speaker 1>nine or two eleven whatever. It was not indicating that

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<v Speaker 1>I did not graduate. I was probably making it seem

1:01:43.160 --> 1:01:45.880
<v Speaker 1>like I had because at that point sein Field delivered,

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<v Speaker 1>have this job. Who cares if I went to school?

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<v Speaker 1>Or not period, whether I graduated or not as a

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<v Speaker 1>whole other story. I've been working for like four years

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<v Speaker 1>at this point. Um. And so I sent that off,

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<v Speaker 1>didn't even think about it, flew to Africa, having a

1:01:58.600 --> 1:02:01.680
<v Speaker 1>great time helping the children, YadA, YadA ya. I got

1:02:01.720 --> 1:02:06.560
<v Speaker 1>an email from HR being like, hey, so we called

1:02:06.600 --> 1:02:12.680
<v Speaker 1>Seneca and I was like, oh, no, ps, they're saying

1:02:12.720 --> 1:02:15.960
<v Speaker 1>that you didn't graduate, um, that you're missing one credit,

1:02:16.120 --> 1:02:18.680
<v Speaker 1>cared to explain, and I was just like yeah, totally.

1:02:18.720 --> 1:02:21.840
<v Speaker 1>My dad didn't think it was that big of a deal. Like,

1:02:21.840 --> 1:02:24.880
<v Speaker 1>like I said, signed contracts, everything signed, feel delivered. You

1:02:24.920 --> 1:02:27.360
<v Speaker 1>already have like my direct deposit ready to go virganuary

1:02:27.360 --> 1:02:29.160
<v Speaker 1>oh one, Like I already know where I'm sitting in

1:02:29.160 --> 1:02:33.400
<v Speaker 1>the office. So bad mistake by me, lazy mistake by me,

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<v Speaker 1>just like kind of thinking that this was not going

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<v Speaker 1>to be a big deal because I didn't I already

1:02:38.120 --> 1:02:39.360
<v Speaker 1>had the job. I really didn't think that they were

1:02:39.360 --> 1:02:41.200
<v Speaker 1>going to look into my past at all, minus like

1:02:41.240 --> 1:02:44.320
<v Speaker 1>maybe a what you call it a criminal record, which

1:02:44.320 --> 1:02:48.280
<v Speaker 1>I cleared I used. I'm a perfect person. Um but uh,

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<v Speaker 1>and so I was just like, oh my gosh, this

1:02:50.240 --> 1:02:53.520
<v Speaker 1>this is that like I didn't even know at that time.

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yeah, sorry, I didn't pass. I'm missing

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<v Speaker 1>one credit. Here's my transcript something my transcript which was

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<v Speaker 1>showing that I was only missing one and I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>totally my bad. Um. You know, I can talk to

1:03:03.160 --> 1:03:05.560
<v Speaker 1>anybody who wants to to explain the situation, but I

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<v Speaker 1>really don't think it's a big of you know, I'm

1:03:07.320 --> 1:03:09.280
<v Speaker 1>going to go back to Africa and enjoy this time

1:03:09.320 --> 1:03:10.960
<v Speaker 1>off that I have before I started crazy new job.

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<v Speaker 1>And even what would have been my boss, Cam and

1:03:14.440 --> 1:03:15.880
<v Speaker 1>I were talking. He's like, yeah, sorry, you have to

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<v Speaker 1>deal like you know it's and I was like, I'm

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<v Speaker 1>sorry that I had made this MS, but I'm gonna

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<v Speaker 1>go back to what I was doing, still not really

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<v Speaker 1>worrying about it. And then I got a phone call,

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<v Speaker 1>maybe like twenty four hours later, and he's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>are you sitting down house. I was like, oh, in Africa.

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<v Speaker 1>He called me in Africa and was like are you

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<v Speaker 1>sitting down? And ilse just like I am now and

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<v Speaker 1>he's just like hr at ESPN. I guess because they

1:03:43.200 --> 1:03:46.320
<v Speaker 1>are by the book something's happened in their past or whatever,

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<v Speaker 1>or because it's owned by such a big company, Disney. Um,

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<v Speaker 1>they are black and white. By the book, nothing can

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<v Speaker 1>be off even after we've sent you the contract, everything

1:03:56.920 --> 1:04:00.000
<v Speaker 1>sign feel delivered. Nothing can be false on your records.

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<v Speaker 1>And because you put that you graduated, we have to

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<v Speaker 1>revoke your offer. I'm in the middle of nowhere on

1:04:08.240 --> 1:04:11.920
<v Speaker 1>the phone with somebody from New York City telling me

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<v Speaker 1>that when I get back from Africa, I do not

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<v Speaker 1>have a job. And so I was devastated. I was

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<v Speaker 1>absolutely devastated. I was just like, all this hard work

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<v Speaker 1>that I have been kicking my own ask for is

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<v Speaker 1>down the drain because I wrote something on a piece

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<v Speaker 1>of paper that I didn't put enough thought into, and

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<v Speaker 1>I was thinking. I was like, oh my god, they're

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<v Speaker 1>gonna take away my visa. I'm gonna have to move

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<v Speaker 1>back in with my mom. I'm gonna have no way

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<v Speaker 1>to make money. I've already said goodbye to everybody. I've

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<v Speaker 1>already told everyone I'm going to ESPN what the hell

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<v Speaker 1>am I going to do? And thankfully that that what

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<v Speaker 1>would have been my boss. He was very understanding and apologetic.

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<v Speaker 1>He was just like, I am so sorry that this

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<v Speaker 1>is happening. This is insane. I've talked to everybody that

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<v Speaker 1>there is to talk to, but this is the final stance.

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<v Speaker 1>This is what we gotta do. And he was it's like,

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<v Speaker 1>I will talk to people at box, I'll talk to

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<v Speaker 1>people at MLS. Whatever you need to get those offers

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<v Speaker 1>back on the table, Like I will really help you out.

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<v Speaker 1>So did you call from Africa? How did like? So

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<v Speaker 1>you hang up with that guy? You? Uh? And by

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<v Speaker 1>the way, I'm Clay Travis is for Rachel ban Ada.

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<v Speaker 1>You're listening to Winds and Losses, you hang up the

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<v Speaker 1>phone and you do what when you're in Africa and

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<v Speaker 1>you get that info? Cried, cried, and I think drank

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<v Speaker 1>a beer because I was in shock. I was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I didn't even know that this could happen.

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<v Speaker 1>Um and uh, I don't know what. I called my

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<v Speaker 1>mom right away. I think I called my agent because

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<v Speaker 1>I was just like, uh, and I had to explain

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<v Speaker 1>to him when it happened, which explaining it was just embarrassing,

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<v Speaker 1>Like I was like, this is such a stupid mistake

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<v Speaker 1>on my part, Like it was just it was dumb.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was starting to really be self conscious because

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, wait, a sect, these people are gonna

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<v Speaker 1>start thinking that I'm a liar like that I was

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<v Speaker 1>trying to fib about like, you know, what happened at school,

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<v Speaker 1>and that I was trying to pretend that I've asked.

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<v Speaker 1>And so I had explained all this to my agent

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<v Speaker 1>and he was just like Jesus, what did I sign

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<v Speaker 1>up for? So that he immediately put out calls to

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<v Speaker 1>Fox Sports and MLS. Thankfully, after some you know, massaging. Again,

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<v Speaker 1>I had to tell everyone what happened, had to tell

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<v Speaker 1>him LS what happened, had to tell Fox Sports what happened. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>I was devastated. I was like, people are going to

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<v Speaker 1>start questioning my character. This is by far the worst

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<v Speaker 1>thing that's ever happened in my career. Still to this

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<v Speaker 1>day gives me divers um. And uh, you know, I've

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<v Speaker 1>I've never been one to get into trouble. I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>that kind of I'm like a goody two shots minus

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<v Speaker 1>the one time I got suspended in high school. It's

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<v Speaker 1>a different story every day. Um we're talking about there.

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<v Speaker 1>It was I, uh, this was like the first time

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<v Speaker 1>that I ever felt like I was in trouble. Was like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god. And uh so they put out a

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<v Speaker 1>bunch of calls to people that knew me, that had

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<v Speaker 1>worked with me before, and they were like, you know,

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<v Speaker 1>as Rachel Shady, like what should we think about this?

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<v Speaker 1>And they're like, oh my god, no, she's hard working.

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<v Speaker 1>That like basically everything that I've told you about my career,

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<v Speaker 1>people very much vouched for me, and they were like,

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<v Speaker 1>this is a mistake. You need to hire this girl

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<v Speaker 1>a sap And thankfully Fox Sports uh came back and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, we still really want you, and and even

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<v Speaker 1>up to their offer in the first place, which was insane,

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<v Speaker 1>like sinisoun heard of if anything, they would say any

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<v Speaker 1>any other company would probably offer less because you could

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<v Speaker 1>would have gone there for ten bucks um. And so

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<v Speaker 1>I was like, yes it yes, fun for the yests.

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<v Speaker 1>I wanted to sign with you in the first place.

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<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, yes, I says a Jest signed Field.

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<v Speaker 1>Fluid was like, looked. I had to tell all this

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<v Speaker 1>to my boyfriend too. I was just like, I'm not

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<v Speaker 1>gonna be living here in a week because everything happened

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<v Speaker 1>so fast. I had to get rid of my apartment.

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<v Speaker 1>I had to go to l A. I had to

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<v Speaker 1>find an apartment. I had no money at the time,

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<v Speaker 1>saved for a big cross country move like that, because

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<v Speaker 1>I assumed that I was saying in New York, um,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was just like, we gotta break up. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>moving to l A. And this is devastating and but

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<v Speaker 1>my career is number one and I gotta go. And

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<v Speaker 1>so UM, I moved to l A and started working

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<v Speaker 1>with Fox Sports and started working on their digital team,

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<v Speaker 1>and um, they've been absolutely mind boggling incredible. In fact,

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<v Speaker 1>I've resigned a new contract just about every single year

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<v Speaker 1>that I've been here because they keep on making they

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<v Speaker 1>they kept on making my role bigger and bigger. At

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<v Speaker 1>first I signed on to do a digital thing, and

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<v Speaker 1>then I signed on to do digital TV, and then

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<v Speaker 1>I signed on to do digital and even more TV,

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<v Speaker 1>and now I'm a full TV contract. Like they've just

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<v Speaker 1>believed in me and pushed me. And I mean that

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<v Speaker 1>that's insane. I've signed a new contract basically every single

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<v Speaker 1>year that I've been here because my role just keeps

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<v Speaker 1>on changing. Um. So, who went to bat for you

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<v Speaker 1>at Fox? Um, Matt Schneider who ended up hiring me.

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<v Speaker 1>And now it's one of my really good friends who

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<v Speaker 1>is a good guy, and I hope he's listening here.

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<v Speaker 1>So so he would that great higher, great Higher now

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<v Speaker 1>at the NFL network. Yeah. And uh and Scott Riddell,

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<v Speaker 1>who's still a reducer at Fox Sports. He was the

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<v Speaker 1>one that kind of called around to a couple of people.

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<v Speaker 1>Him and I were friendly, and he's just like, I

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<v Speaker 1>know you're not this person, but I am going to

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<v Speaker 1>go call some people that you've worked with and just

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<v Speaker 1>kind of get an over, you know, more people who

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<v Speaker 1>have your back. And so he called a ton of

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<v Speaker 1>people and we're like, yes, hire her, yes, hire her,

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<v Speaker 1>yes higher. So he could bring that to Schneider and

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<v Speaker 1>be like, there's so many people vouching for her, like

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<v Speaker 1>we need we need this girl. Um and and madel

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<v Speaker 1>is also an awesome guy, by the way, and both

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<v Speaker 1>of them, when we'll get to this in a minute.

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<v Speaker 1>When walk it In happened, they immediately called me and

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<v Speaker 1>they're like, you're gonna absolutely love working with Rachel. She's fantastic.

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<v Speaker 1>Um And So, but did you think going back to

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<v Speaker 1>that Africa when you get that call, did you think, like,

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<v Speaker 1>my career is over? Oh? I remember sitting out. We

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<v Speaker 1>would wake up early early because we were going into

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<v Speaker 1>these really small villages that were like hours away. I

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<v Speaker 1>remember sitting out at three thirty in the morning. We

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<v Speaker 1>were getting our car packed and I was like three

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<v Speaker 1>or four and the early morning prayer was happening, and

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<v Speaker 1>so I remember sitting Maybes later on the day, I

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<v Speaker 1>was remember sitting on the stoop listening to this prayer

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<v Speaker 1>being just like shouted into one of just like sirens

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<v Speaker 1>all over, just being echoed all over, and just looking

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<v Speaker 1>into like this guy and being like it's over. I'm done.

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<v Speaker 1>I'm gonna help to go home and face the music.

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<v Speaker 1>And I've really messed up this time and I need

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<v Speaker 1>to grow up. And I was just really angry at

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<v Speaker 1>myself because at that point, I was just like, this

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<v Speaker 1>was an incredible experience. Now with the what am I

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<v Speaker 1>gonna do? What which path am I on? Now? Like

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<v Speaker 1>I just had no idea what was in store, and

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<v Speaker 1>I had no idea that Fox was gonna put the

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<v Speaker 1>offer back on the table. Thank thank god. I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, thank you so much. I would absolutely love

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<v Speaker 1>to take this, but I'm going to go with option

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<v Speaker 1>A because A, B, and C and I was actually

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<v Speaker 1>Matt Niner the one that I turned down, and I

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<v Speaker 1>think he understood. I was just like, I need to

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<v Speaker 1>stay here. I've got a new boyfriend. I'm close to

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<v Speaker 1>my family. My dad passed away a few years ago.

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<v Speaker 1>I still need to be close to them. Um, YadA, YadA, YadA.

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<v Speaker 1>And he was super understanding in the first place. I'm

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<v Speaker 1>so glad that him and I had such a great

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<v Speaker 1>connection because it was easier for me to call back

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<v Speaker 1>and be like, hey, so this is what happened. Please

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<v Speaker 1>take me back. So what do you do with Fox?

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<v Speaker 1>You have Fox? Yeah? Started your digital videos, right, Yeah.

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<v Speaker 1>I started working at this thing called at the Buzzer.

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<v Speaker 1>So it was like any video of a guy getting

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<v Speaker 1>like a softball to the nads, we would be like,

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<v Speaker 1>oh my god, check out this viral video. Then maybe

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<v Speaker 1>like thirty second things that we would Sometimes it would

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<v Speaker 1>be like during commercials they would roll on Fox, So

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<v Speaker 1>I was getting on TV in that way. But usually

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<v Speaker 1>it was just like videos, like viral videos that we

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<v Speaker 1>would put back out on Twitter. Um. But that ended

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<v Speaker 1>about like a year after it got canceled a year

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<v Speaker 1>after I started with Fox, and they're like, we still

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<v Speaker 1>really want to use you, so we're gonna keep you around.

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<v Speaker 1>You're gonna still do more digital videos, but we're gonna

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<v Speaker 1>keep you in the soccer space. So that's kind of

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<v Speaker 1>when I veered off at Fox and started doing like

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<v Speaker 1>only soccer um And so I was doing soccer digital

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<v Speaker 1>like literally up until last year, like last summer when

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<v Speaker 1>I got locked in. I had just gotten back from

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<v Speaker 1>the World Cup in Russia. So we'll get to that

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<v Speaker 1>in a second. But so you and I meet for

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<v Speaker 1>the first time that I remember at the Fox super

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<v Speaker 1>Bowl party because you had done what did you do?

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<v Speaker 1>Like a Lady Gaga video? Yeah, I wrote a sketch

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<v Speaker 1>that they were actually gonna put in the pre show, uh,

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<v Speaker 1>the night before the super Bowl, which was like still insane,

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<v Speaker 1>it's crazy, uh, And so I wrote a sketch. So

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<v Speaker 1>I was going for that, and then we were also

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<v Speaker 1>just like going to go shoot some fun stuff for

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<v Speaker 1>that was a beautiful thing about digital. It's just like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's just go hang out, let's make some videos, let's

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<v Speaker 1>put them up on Facebook and they'll probably get insane

1:12:47.240 --> 1:12:49.120
<v Speaker 1>amount of views because that was just like the Facebook

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<v Speaker 1>algorithm at the time, and and on Twitter and stuff

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<v Speaker 1>like that too. So I went there and then I

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<v Speaker 1>was also I did some stuff for Garbage Time for

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<v Speaker 1>Kan Nolan Show, which was super fun. Uh, and so

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<v Speaker 1>branching it. That was like the first time that my

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<v Speaker 1>current boss, now Charlie, our crew boss, was just like, Hey,

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<v Speaker 1>we want to start getting you more on TV. So

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<v Speaker 1>you're gonna come to the super Bowl, You're gonna do

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<v Speaker 1>garbage time, You're gonna do a couple of hits for them.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, okay, let's do it. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>So yeah, constantly just like putting me in situations so

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<v Speaker 1>we're terrifying. But that made me grow so much in

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<v Speaker 1>the process over the last two years. All right, so

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<v Speaker 1>then you like do what like so you you had

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<v Speaker 1>you set in for Cowherd a couple of times, like

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<v Speaker 1>as as Fox starts to think, okay, maybe this girl

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<v Speaker 1>can be on television. You said earlier you wanted to

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<v Speaker 1>be an acting and actress and things like that. Were

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<v Speaker 1>you doing any kind of any kind of things in

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<v Speaker 1>that respect? And I think probably this is a long question,

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<v Speaker 1>but people who have listened and are listening now can

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<v Speaker 1>tell you're quick. Right, Like you said, you do a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of improv but you think and talk rapidly, which

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<v Speaker 1>is which is obviously good for unscripted television. What were

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<v Speaker 1>you doing, like, what was the transition point from video

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<v Speaker 1>to television. I is a part time student. Basically I

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<v Speaker 1>was in class four times a week, whether it was

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<v Speaker 1>like straight up acting class or improv classes that I

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<v Speaker 1>was taking at ground Links, which is like ground Links

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<v Speaker 1>is home to so many s and l alums like

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<v Speaker 1>You've got Will Ferrell, Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiggs just to

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<v Speaker 1>name a few, like Phewee Herman went there. So it

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<v Speaker 1>was it's like the ultimate school for comedy in l A.

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<v Speaker 1>So I was going to that taking uh, like straight

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<v Speaker 1>up acting classes and just like really fully immersing myself

1:14:26.200 --> 1:14:28.760
<v Speaker 1>into the creative process, which was all all helping with

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<v Speaker 1>all of the comedy sketches that I was writing for

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<v Speaker 1>the Fox digital side as well. UM. And as I

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<v Speaker 1>was starting to do more comedy sketches like this has

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<v Speaker 1>just been a trend in my career, like doing more

1:14:39.400 --> 1:14:43.960
<v Speaker 1>creative stuff and putting it out there, I started getting UM.

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<v Speaker 1>I started getting meetings with people on the studio side,

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<v Speaker 1>on the TV side, and they're like, who are you,

1:14:49.920 --> 1:14:53.240
<v Speaker 1>what are you doing, where did you come from, and

1:14:53.280 --> 1:14:55.840
<v Speaker 1>how do we get you to do more? So it

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<v Speaker 1>was UM I've always said over the past few years,

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<v Speaker 1>as like I've develop a deep Fox from the beginning.

1:15:02.120 --> 1:15:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I want to grow up here. I want to grow

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<v Speaker 1>and become whoever I'm supposed to be at Fox, because

1:15:06.920 --> 1:15:10.920
<v Speaker 1>they're so nurturing and so patient, and we'll we'll let

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<v Speaker 1>you make a mistake, uh, and we'll let you grow

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<v Speaker 1>in your space. And I feel like so many times

1:15:15.920 --> 1:15:17.960
<v Speaker 1>people are like it not doing so good, let's grab

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<v Speaker 1>her off, and they let me squirm and kind of

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<v Speaker 1>figure it out myself, which I'm so thankful for. UM.

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<v Speaker 1>But it was it was just a lot of meetings

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<v Speaker 1>and sometimes I would get a chance. I remember the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I filled in for on Coward Show, Chris

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<v Speaker 1>Carter and Nick Wright. We're doing like a test run

1:15:33.360 --> 1:15:36.320
<v Speaker 1>for their show that was being developed, and so they

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<v Speaker 1>were filling in, so it wasn't even the herd. It

1:15:38.760 --> 1:15:41.799
<v Speaker 1>was a three man team. And maybe they were testing

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<v Speaker 1>me for to host that show as well, although that

1:15:43.920 --> 1:15:46.040
<v Speaker 1>was pretty surely on. I don't think they were doing that.

1:15:46.520 --> 1:15:51.080
<v Speaker 1>UM and I bombed, Oh my gosh, I bombed so hard.

1:15:51.200 --> 1:15:53.280
<v Speaker 1>I could not figure it out because it was the

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<v Speaker 1>first time I was on television and then in the US,

1:15:56.920 --> 1:15:59.400
<v Speaker 1>and I remember somebody came out. I kept on screwing

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<v Speaker 1>up because I was doing what would have been Christine

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<v Speaker 1>like he's role at the times to just like the

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<v Speaker 1>news updates, and there was like a um, you know,

1:16:07.720 --> 1:16:09.800
<v Speaker 1>Colin would be like okay, and over to Christine with

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<v Speaker 1>the news, and then there was like a doo doo

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<v Speaker 1>doo dooo, like a musical thing, and I would never

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<v Speaker 1>stop for the musical thing. I'd be like, Okay, the

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<v Speaker 1>net of the day is And I did that like

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<v Speaker 1>four times in a row, over talking over the music.

1:16:25.800 --> 1:16:28.439
<v Speaker 1>You can't even hear what I'm saying anyways, and I'm like, oh,

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<v Speaker 1>I just kept on forgetting about it. And I was

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<v Speaker 1>also so nervous, and I remember somebody coming out I'd

1:16:33.760 --> 1:16:36.720
<v Speaker 1>done it twice, somebody and I had a third hit

1:16:36.800 --> 1:16:38.640
<v Speaker 1>in the show. Somebody came out and was just like,

1:16:39.160 --> 1:16:41.800
<v Speaker 1>he screwed this up twice, don't take it three for three.

1:16:43.520 --> 1:16:46.599
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, oh my god, I'm fired. I'm

1:16:46.600 --> 1:16:49.320
<v Speaker 1>fired from a job. I don't even have um And

1:16:49.360 --> 1:16:51.320
<v Speaker 1>it was just a bad day. I did you screw

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<v Speaker 1>it up the third time or did you get it

1:16:52.640 --> 1:16:54.000
<v Speaker 1>right on the third chap? I think I got it

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<v Speaker 1>right for the third time, thankfully, but Chris and Nick

1:16:56.600 --> 1:17:00.519
<v Speaker 1>were probably like, who is why were we up with her?

1:17:00.560 --> 1:17:04.320
<v Speaker 1>Where's Christine? Uh? And so it was a while. It

1:17:04.360 --> 1:17:06.160
<v Speaker 1>was it was a while where I was back on TV.

1:17:07.240 --> 1:17:08.360
<v Speaker 1>Gave me a second to figure it out on the

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<v Speaker 1>digital side. Um. But then uh, I just started feeling

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<v Speaker 1>in like randomly, randomly here and there, uh for Christine

1:17:16.680 --> 1:17:18.599
<v Speaker 1>and I actually got to sit in with Colin one time,

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<v Speaker 1>then another couple of times. It was like Doug Gottlieb

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<v Speaker 1>who fills in for calling sometimes. And then uh, I

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<v Speaker 1>think the kicker was going away to the World Cup,

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<v Speaker 1>and I was doing a lot of TV at the

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<v Speaker 1>World Cup because we had so um, we had so

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<v Speaker 1>many different programs happening. We had Tonight Show, we had

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<v Speaker 1>a daily show, I had my digital show, which very

1:17:36.720 --> 1:17:39.160
<v Speaker 1>much felt and looked like a television show. I was

1:17:39.200 --> 1:17:43.320
<v Speaker 1>reading off prompter and we were doing it live and yeada, YadA, YadA.

1:17:44.400 --> 1:17:50.080
<v Speaker 1>Oh my god, no, just once, I've been to Germany.

1:17:50.439 --> 1:17:53.320
<v Speaker 1>Just that's it. So that's a big deal for people

1:17:53.360 --> 1:17:55.759
<v Speaker 1>who don't realize you went over to Russia. The US

1:17:55.880 --> 1:18:00.040
<v Speaker 1>misses the World Cup, which is like just devastating to

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<v Speaker 1>be so bad. Where were you when the US got

1:18:02.760 --> 1:18:05.000
<v Speaker 1>beat by Trinidad into Artago. I think it was right

1:18:05.040 --> 1:18:09.240
<v Speaker 1>where Um. I was at a bar. We were doing

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<v Speaker 1>a live stream we were doing I was doing a

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<v Speaker 1>lot of soccer covers even leading up to the World Cup.

1:18:13.320 --> 1:18:15.000
<v Speaker 1>We had like a pre show in a post show

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<v Speaker 1>anytime the US had a qualifier. So I was at

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<v Speaker 1>a bar and we had to go live seconds after

1:18:20.840 --> 1:18:24.639
<v Speaker 1>they had gotten knocked out when I was just stew Holden,

1:18:24.680 --> 1:18:26.600
<v Speaker 1>who used to be on the national team. He is

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<v Speaker 1>an analyst for FS one now and calls crazy games

1:18:29.960 --> 1:18:33.519
<v Speaker 1>like the World Cup final on Fox, and um him

1:18:33.560 --> 1:18:36.320
<v Speaker 1>and I just had to like go through this fifteen

1:18:36.400 --> 1:18:39.559
<v Speaker 1>twenty minute live show of being like, Okay, so the

1:18:39.640 --> 1:18:42.040
<v Speaker 1>US is in the World Cup, but we're still going

1:18:42.080 --> 1:18:43.640
<v Speaker 1>to the World Cup. We're gonna be in Russia in

1:18:43.680 --> 1:18:46.519
<v Speaker 1>the summer. And it was just like a weird It was.

1:18:46.600 --> 1:18:49.000
<v Speaker 1>It was a weird balance of like being excited and

1:18:49.479 --> 1:18:52.880
<v Speaker 1>being sympathetic to all the American people watching that they

1:18:52.880 --> 1:18:54.680
<v Speaker 1>didn't just make it into the World Cup. So um

1:18:54.880 --> 1:18:57.519
<v Speaker 1>so I covered it every second leading up to it

1:18:57.600 --> 1:18:59.360
<v Speaker 1>and then was there for the actual thing, which was

1:18:59.360 --> 1:19:02.559
<v Speaker 1>pretty incredib ball, so it was incredible for everybody who

1:19:02.560 --> 1:19:06.960
<v Speaker 1>watched it you also ended up hospitalized. What happened there? Um,

1:19:07.000 --> 1:19:09.720
<v Speaker 1>I woke up. We were working insane hours, like I

1:19:09.760 --> 1:19:11.559
<v Speaker 1>was doing my show like I mentioned, and then I

1:19:11.600 --> 1:19:13.559
<v Speaker 1>was also doing this tonight show. So oftentimes I was

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<v Speaker 1>working like twa like full days and uh and then

1:19:16.680 --> 1:19:18.479
<v Speaker 1>also like going home and watching the games too, so

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<v Speaker 1>it's not like I ever stopped. And um. So I

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<v Speaker 1>woke up one day and I was really sick. I

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<v Speaker 1>just did not feel good. I couldn't get out of bed.

1:19:28.720 --> 1:19:30.519
<v Speaker 1>I showed up to work and they were like, go home.

1:19:30.840 --> 1:19:33.519
<v Speaker 1>You look bad. If you get anyone else sick, we're

1:19:33.600 --> 1:19:36.920
<v Speaker 1>in trouble. So you need to go home and rest. Um.

1:19:37.000 --> 1:19:39.600
<v Speaker 1>And I didn't like vomit or anything like that. I

1:19:39.640 --> 1:19:42.559
<v Speaker 1>just felt really weird. I felt weak, I felt like nauseous,

1:19:42.600 --> 1:19:43.880
<v Speaker 1>and I was like, I don't know what's going on

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<v Speaker 1>with me. So went home, slept for like fifteen hours

1:19:47.400 --> 1:19:49.160
<v Speaker 1>something crazy, and then woke up the next day and

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<v Speaker 1>was like, Okay, I feel pretty good, showed up to work,

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<v Speaker 1>worked another crazy day. The next morning. I woke up

1:19:55.960 --> 1:19:58.639
<v Speaker 1>usually because of the time difference, we were shooting later

1:19:58.680 --> 1:20:00.639
<v Speaker 1>on in in the night, so I would finished until

1:20:00.640 --> 1:20:02.400
<v Speaker 1>like three am, and I go home and then I

1:20:02.400 --> 1:20:06.200
<v Speaker 1>would sleep until like noon or whatever. Um. I woke

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<v Speaker 1>up at eight am the next day and I was

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<v Speaker 1>just like, this is not good. I still need to

1:20:10.360 --> 1:20:11.840
<v Speaker 1>be sleeping for a few hours if I'm going to

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<v Speaker 1>be able to stand. Uh. And I felt really sick again,

1:20:15.200 --> 1:20:17.839
<v Speaker 1>like super nauseous, and I just like I I just started

1:20:18.280 --> 1:20:21.439
<v Speaker 1>huking like so bad. I texted our team doctor who

1:20:21.520 --> 1:20:23.160
<v Speaker 1>was kind of like traveling around to all the different

1:20:23.160 --> 1:20:27.439
<v Speaker 1>hotels that was in charge of Fox, and Uh. I

1:20:27.520 --> 1:20:29.720
<v Speaker 1>was just like, I'm putting bad shape. You need to

1:20:29.800 --> 1:20:32.080
<v Speaker 1>come to my room, like, please tell me. And he

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<v Speaker 1>when he found me, I was on the bathroom floor

1:20:36.000 --> 1:20:38.040
<v Speaker 1>because it was cold the tile, and I was like

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<v Speaker 1>burning up and I just couldn't move. I was just like,

1:20:41.280 --> 1:20:43.280
<v Speaker 1>if you touch me, I'm gonna throw up. I'm gonna

1:20:43.280 --> 1:20:45.080
<v Speaker 1>throw up around your face, so we better not touch me.

1:20:45.680 --> 1:20:48.280
<v Speaker 1>And uh. He took a shot of morphine and put

1:20:48.320 --> 1:20:51.439
<v Speaker 1>it in a butt and that helped me to not vomit.

1:20:51.600 --> 1:20:54.479
<v Speaker 1>And they've transported me from the tile floor in my

1:20:54.520 --> 1:20:59.120
<v Speaker 1>bathroom to the hospital and uh and not in an ambulance, No,

1:20:59.240 --> 1:21:02.920
<v Speaker 1>we had like some security cars so they transport transported

1:21:02.920 --> 1:21:07.320
<v Speaker 1>me to the hospital, and um, I went in there

1:21:07.320 --> 1:21:08.840
<v Speaker 1>and had like a bunch of scans and they're like,

1:21:08.920 --> 1:21:12.040
<v Speaker 1>your gall bladder is more than twice its normal size

1:21:12.240 --> 1:21:14.280
<v Speaker 1>and we have no idea why, so we're gonna have

1:21:14.320 --> 1:21:17.519
<v Speaker 1>to do some tests. Um. At that point, thankfully I did.

1:21:17.520 --> 1:21:21.120
<v Speaker 1>The morphine had made me stop vomiting, vomiting and feeling

1:21:21.120 --> 1:21:24.559
<v Speaker 1>so nauseous. So I was like, Okay, at the time,

1:21:25.160 --> 1:21:28.400
<v Speaker 1>you're in a Russian hospital, right, I'm in a Russian hospital.

1:21:28.520 --> 1:21:32.040
<v Speaker 1>And as you can tell by my history, I hate hospitals.

1:21:32.160 --> 1:21:34.800
<v Speaker 1>They give me anxiety. They freaked me out. I spent

1:21:34.880 --> 1:21:36.559
<v Speaker 1>way too much time in them as a kid. I

1:21:36.600 --> 1:21:40.280
<v Speaker 1>cannot stand hospital. So I'm like literally watching Netflix on

1:21:40.320 --> 1:21:42.840
<v Speaker 1>my phone because like I can't think. I cannot be

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<v Speaker 1>here in my mind, I Am not going to sit

1:21:44.800 --> 1:21:48.880
<v Speaker 1>here and stare at the ceiling feeling like super nauseous still.

1:21:48.960 --> 1:21:51.360
<v Speaker 1>And I remember at the time, I hadn't been fully

1:21:51.360 --> 1:21:53.840
<v Speaker 1>admitted yet because they hadn't figured out my insurance, and

1:21:53.880 --> 1:21:55.280
<v Speaker 1>so I was in like a weight like one of

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<v Speaker 1>those like waiting rooms where there's like a ton of

1:21:57.240 --> 1:21:59.880
<v Speaker 1>beds and you're only really separated by like a sheet. Um.

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<v Speaker 1>I was in one of those for like probably three hours,

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<v Speaker 1>and uh, I remember the wheeled this guy in. Keep

1:22:06.080 --> 1:22:08.720
<v Speaker 1>in mind, I'm so nauseous. They wheeled this guy in

1:22:08.840 --> 1:22:13.360
<v Speaker 1>from Boston of all places, and this guy has severe

1:22:13.400 --> 1:22:15.920
<v Speaker 1>diarrhea and has had diarrhea for forty eight hours and

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<v Speaker 1>would go into full detail in length for the next

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<v Speaker 1>twenty minutes while I sat and choked down my vomit

1:22:23.120 --> 1:22:26.000
<v Speaker 1>for it was it was laughable. I was just like,

1:22:26.040 --> 1:22:28.240
<v Speaker 1>this is not happening to me. Why why are we

1:22:28.280 --> 1:22:31.640
<v Speaker 1>both in this Russian hospital? So they ended up admitting me.

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<v Speaker 1>I spent the next three days in the hospital begging

1:22:37.080 --> 1:22:38.800
<v Speaker 1>them to let me go because I wanted to get

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<v Speaker 1>back to work. I had to have a fill in

1:22:40.720 --> 1:22:43.080
<v Speaker 1>which was just like this is my show. I need

1:22:43.080 --> 1:22:44.840
<v Speaker 1>to get through the World Cup like this, I need

1:22:44.880 --> 1:22:47.519
<v Speaker 1>a medal of honor. Once I finished it, uh, and

1:22:47.560 --> 1:22:49.720
<v Speaker 1>I was, I was like devastated, and I just like

1:22:49.800 --> 1:22:54.960
<v Speaker 1>watched TV and ate crutons and waited until my goldbladder

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<v Speaker 1>went down to normal size. Fox Sports Radio has the

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<v Speaker 1>Bannetta talking about our gallbladder on Wins and Losses and

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<v Speaker 1>they figure out what caused your gallbladder to just like

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<v Speaker 1>double in size. They said, it's a combination of things.

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<v Speaker 1>It was like, it could have been stressed, it could

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<v Speaker 1>have been eating different foods, which we absolutely were. The

1:23:23.040 --> 1:23:25.920
<v Speaker 1>food in Russia was um as you can assume pretty

1:23:25.920 --> 1:23:29.400
<v Speaker 1>different um not sleep, all of these things, and I

1:23:29.439 --> 1:23:30.880
<v Speaker 1>was like, I check all those boxes. So yeah, it

1:23:30.880 --> 1:23:34.040
<v Speaker 1>makes sense that I have a large callblatterer. But it

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<v Speaker 1>just took. It took like three days and I started

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<v Speaker 1>feeling a little bit normal. But then I couldn't eat

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<v Speaker 1>normal food for like a couple of a couple of weeks.

1:23:40.800 --> 1:23:42.600
<v Speaker 1>I had to have like boiled chicken and rice just

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<v Speaker 1>until my my body went back to normal. So you

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<v Speaker 1>come back from you survive living in Russia, you come

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<v Speaker 1>back and you want to do television maybe? And when

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<v Speaker 1>did you hear so walk it In is being worked on.

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<v Speaker 1>I guess that we're like the next summer, right, like

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<v Speaker 1>the next summer after the after the World Cup? Or

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<v Speaker 1>was it the same summer, I literally from from Russia. Like,

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<v Speaker 1>let's say on a Friday, and I got an email saying,

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<v Speaker 1>Charlie Dixon, who's our boss now, wants to have lunch

1:24:13.240 --> 1:24:14.720
<v Speaker 1>with you on Monday. Are you around? And I was

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<v Speaker 1>like yeah, sure, And so I come to the Fox

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<v Speaker 1>lot and I have lunch with Charlie and Charlie's is

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<v Speaker 1>like there, I'm developing a show, um and uh Chris,

1:24:23.400 --> 1:24:26.400
<v Speaker 1>and I'm gonna host it. And I really want you

1:24:26.640 --> 1:24:29.640
<v Speaker 1>to be the fill in, like whenever she's sick or

1:24:29.680 --> 1:24:31.280
<v Speaker 1>wants to go on vacation. I want you to be

1:24:31.320 --> 1:24:33.519
<v Speaker 1>the designated number one fill in. That way, you're gonna

1:24:33.520 --> 1:24:36.400
<v Speaker 1>get reps on TV, you're gonna learn this space, You're

1:24:36.439 --> 1:24:38.760
<v Speaker 1>it's it's just like the perfect place for you. And

1:24:38.800 --> 1:24:40.120
<v Speaker 1>he says like, if it's not this, if you're not

1:24:40.160 --> 1:24:41.880
<v Speaker 1>interested in this, it's something else, like we definitely want

1:24:41.880 --> 1:24:43.639
<v Speaker 1>to get you on TV this year and and like

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<v Speaker 1>you know, more experience in yeah, yah YadA. And I

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<v Speaker 1>was just like I'm absolutely down, Like I will start

1:24:49.800 --> 1:24:53.360
<v Speaker 1>tomorrow whatever you need. And he's like, okay, great, good here,

1:24:53.640 --> 1:24:57.559
<v Speaker 1>glad you're into it. Blah blah blah blah. Somehow from

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<v Speaker 1>that Monday to literally the following Monday, ship hit the

1:25:02.920 --> 1:25:05.080
<v Speaker 1>van and he called me on money. He was like, okay,

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<v Speaker 1>so how would you actually like to host the whole

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<v Speaker 1>thing because that's that's that's up for graps now, UM.

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<v Speaker 1>And I was just like, yes, yes, yes that's terrifying,

1:25:14.120 --> 1:25:16.720
<v Speaker 1>but yes I'm in UM. And so he's like, Okay,

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<v Speaker 1>we're gonna like test it out and you can meet

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<v Speaker 1>the guys and and we'll see. He's like, I'm not

1:25:20.360 --> 1:25:22.800
<v Speaker 1>promising anything, but let's just you know, go to the

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<v Speaker 1>next step and and see what this looks like. And

1:25:25.320 --> 1:25:28.519
<v Speaker 1>so we were all I mean, you guys were flowed

1:25:28.520 --> 1:25:31.600
<v Speaker 1>to l A still had no idea. I think in

1:25:31.600 --> 1:25:33.960
<v Speaker 1>their minds they were like, okay, well she's gonna host it.

1:25:34.200 --> 1:25:35.800
<v Speaker 1>Still to me, I was just like, okay, this is

1:25:35.880 --> 1:25:37.840
<v Speaker 1>very much like a tryout. I need to be very

1:25:37.880 --> 1:25:42.479
<v Speaker 1>proper and like just like really well everybody. And uh

1:25:42.560 --> 1:25:45.479
<v Speaker 1>so I showed up to the meeting, um Met stal

1:25:45.640 --> 1:25:48.880
<v Speaker 1>Met Todd had met you once before, and uh we

1:25:49.000 --> 1:25:51.280
<v Speaker 1>just had like a really great first table read. I

1:25:51.320 --> 1:25:54.519
<v Speaker 1>don't know what it was, um, but do you remember

1:25:54.520 --> 1:25:56.040
<v Speaker 1>that like all of us were just like clicking and

1:25:56.120 --> 1:25:58.479
<v Speaker 1>driving and like making fun of each other from the

1:25:58.520 --> 1:26:01.080
<v Speaker 1>get go. From the beginning, this is like how we

1:26:01.120 --> 1:26:04.120
<v Speaker 1>have done this show. Uh. And I remember like people

1:26:04.120 --> 1:26:06.200
<v Speaker 1>looking around at each other at the table and they're like, Okay,

1:26:06.200 --> 1:26:08.599
<v Speaker 1>this is it. This is a group. Uh. And then

1:26:08.640 --> 1:26:10.519
<v Speaker 1>like a couple of days later, they Charlie called me

1:26:10.520 --> 1:26:12.960
<v Speaker 1>into his office and he's like, so we wanted to

1:26:12.960 --> 1:26:16.120
<v Speaker 1>host this show, and I just pretend vomited. I was

1:26:16.160 --> 1:26:20.680
<v Speaker 1>like okay, and uh yeah, and then we just did

1:26:20.720 --> 1:26:22.160
<v Speaker 1>like a bunch of trier and so a bunch of

1:26:22.160 --> 1:26:24.000
<v Speaker 1>rehearsals leading up to the show and then it was lunched.

1:26:24.080 --> 1:26:26.519
<v Speaker 1>So probably from the time that I found out I

1:26:26.560 --> 1:26:29.200
<v Speaker 1>was getting the show, it was like two weeks until

1:26:29.240 --> 1:26:32.120
<v Speaker 1>it actually happened two weeks three weeks to be And

1:26:32.360 --> 1:26:34.400
<v Speaker 1>by the way, Charrissa decided she had so much going

1:26:34.439 --> 1:26:37.479
<v Speaker 1>on she couldn't do a daily one hour show, which

1:26:37.520 --> 1:26:39.400
<v Speaker 1>then left it open for who was going to be

1:26:39.439 --> 1:26:43.840
<v Speaker 1>the host, and you just swept right in. But talking

1:26:43.840 --> 1:26:47.120
<v Speaker 1>about taking risks, and I'm Clay Travis, Rachel Barnetta Wins

1:26:47.120 --> 1:26:48.680
<v Speaker 1>and Losses. You've taken a lot of risks and a

1:26:48.720 --> 1:26:50.719
<v Speaker 1>lot of creative risk in your career, but you didn't

1:26:50.720 --> 1:26:53.439
<v Speaker 1>know anything about gambling like that. You you you were like, yeah,

1:26:53.479 --> 1:26:55.360
<v Speaker 1>I'll do the show, but you're I mean you said

1:26:55.360 --> 1:26:57.320
<v Speaker 1>earlier like you didn't know much about soccer when you

1:26:57.360 --> 1:27:00.320
<v Speaker 1>started MLS. You just kind of threw yourself into to it,

1:27:00.439 --> 1:27:02.720
<v Speaker 1>and they gave you like a binder to try to

1:27:02.840 --> 1:27:05.760
<v Speaker 1>learn as much as you could before gambling started. Right.

1:27:06.320 --> 1:27:09.000
<v Speaker 1>One thing that I'm really saying full for is I'm

1:27:09.000 --> 1:27:11.439
<v Speaker 1>a quick learner. If I'm if I'm like dedicated to something,

1:27:11.439 --> 1:27:13.519
<v Speaker 1>then I will pick it up. Um. And so that, yes,

1:27:13.560 --> 1:27:16.479
<v Speaker 1>they gave me a binder, the Gambling Bible, and I

1:27:16.520 --> 1:27:19.479
<v Speaker 1>went home and I just started pairing through that thing

1:27:19.600 --> 1:27:21.479
<v Speaker 1>and had somebody like sit with me and kind of

1:27:21.520 --> 1:27:24.280
<v Speaker 1>like understood, like because gambling, I feel like when you

1:27:24.320 --> 1:27:25.800
<v Speaker 1>first look at it's a lot of numbers. It's like

1:27:25.840 --> 1:27:28.040
<v Speaker 1>super intimidating. It's like WHOA, this is the language that

1:27:28.040 --> 1:27:31.320
<v Speaker 1>I don't even understand sometimes until somebody sat with me

1:27:31.320 --> 1:27:34.640
<v Speaker 1>and talked to me as a human being and like

1:27:34.800 --> 1:27:37.640
<v Speaker 1>discussed every kind of game that you could play in

1:27:37.760 --> 1:27:40.320
<v Speaker 1>terms of sports gambling, and I just got it. I

1:27:40.320 --> 1:27:41.880
<v Speaker 1>picked it up, and then I just had to learn

1:27:41.920 --> 1:27:43.800
<v Speaker 1>the terms and like how to say the numbers and

1:27:43.840 --> 1:27:46.120
<v Speaker 1>the way that we say it with the halves and

1:27:46.120 --> 1:27:49.720
<v Speaker 1>and the plus and minus and YadA YadA, YadA um

1:27:49.760 --> 1:27:51.879
<v Speaker 1>and then I just figured it out. But also, football

1:27:52.000 --> 1:27:54.200
<v Speaker 1>is not something that I was like, I've covered soccer

1:27:54.400 --> 1:27:56.120
<v Speaker 1>for the past few years, and even if it was

1:27:56.200 --> 1:27:59.880
<v Speaker 1>something that I was watching, I haven't. I haven't covered

1:28:00.040 --> 1:28:02.040
<v Speaker 1>in a way that you're full on talking about it

1:28:02.080 --> 1:28:04.920
<v Speaker 1>every single day, especially on TV, and TV basically have

1:28:05.040 --> 1:28:07.639
<v Speaker 1>to be pretty bang on about everything that you're talking

1:28:07.640 --> 1:28:10.759
<v Speaker 1>about in terms of like facts, unless you're Clay Travis. Um.

1:28:12.240 --> 1:28:14.000
<v Speaker 1>So that was also something I was having to learn

1:28:14.040 --> 1:28:16.640
<v Speaker 1>as well. Uh So I dove into sports gambling, I

1:28:16.640 --> 1:28:19.320
<v Speaker 1>dove into football, and I picked it up relatively quickly.

1:28:19.640 --> 1:28:21.519
<v Speaker 1>But then it was also like finding the confidence to

1:28:21.560 --> 1:28:23.840
<v Speaker 1>talk about it too, um and talk about it in

1:28:23.880 --> 1:28:25.800
<v Speaker 1>like a way that you would talk to your friends,

1:28:25.840 --> 1:28:27.880
<v Speaker 1>because that's exactly what our show is like, a bunch

1:28:27.880 --> 1:28:30.439
<v Speaker 1>of people chatting about, you know, what games they like

1:28:30.520 --> 1:28:32.720
<v Speaker 1>and what kind of bets they like. So it was

1:28:32.760 --> 1:28:34.639
<v Speaker 1>a lot of work. It was a ton of work.

1:28:34.640 --> 1:28:37.439
<v Speaker 1>I remember like being very close to panic attack a

1:28:37.479 --> 1:28:39.360
<v Speaker 1>couple of the nights leading up to our first show

1:28:39.360 --> 1:28:40.479
<v Speaker 1>because I was like, I don't know if I can

1:28:40.479 --> 1:28:43.280
<v Speaker 1>do this, Like I think they've got the wrong person. Um,

1:28:43.320 --> 1:28:47.360
<v Speaker 1>But thankfully things things went the right way. How So

1:28:47.400 --> 1:28:49.559
<v Speaker 1>we talked about that first table read. We were it's

1:28:49.560 --> 1:28:51.760
<v Speaker 1>not on the lot. We're sitting there. For people who

1:28:51.840 --> 1:28:54.360
<v Speaker 1>may not understand what that's like. It's there's no cameras,

1:28:54.720 --> 1:28:57.479
<v Speaker 1>there's no dress up, like, there's no you know, makeup

1:28:57.560 --> 1:29:00.000
<v Speaker 1>or anything, or nobody's dressed in fancy clothes or any

1:29:00.040 --> 1:29:01.840
<v Speaker 1>thing like that, but you just kind of do a

1:29:01.920 --> 1:29:04.880
<v Speaker 1>mock show. And almost from the get go it was

1:29:04.960 --> 1:29:07.719
<v Speaker 1>really really smooth. I mean, I knew Furman, I didn't

1:29:07.720 --> 1:29:09.960
<v Speaker 1>know sal at all. I didn't. I didn't know you

1:29:10.040 --> 1:29:12.840
<v Speaker 1>other than to have met you at that Super Bowl party,

1:29:13.280 --> 1:29:16.000
<v Speaker 1>and so I don't think you knew anybody, right, Like

1:29:16.040 --> 1:29:18.240
<v Speaker 1>you didn't know any of the three of us. No,

1:29:18.360 --> 1:29:21.719
<v Speaker 1>I I didn't know anyone. I remember our boss calling

1:29:21.760 --> 1:29:23.400
<v Speaker 1>me and being like, do you know who cousins Salas?

1:29:23.400 --> 1:29:25.880
<v Speaker 1>And I was like, yeah, that's that name. Sounds really familiar.

1:29:26.160 --> 1:29:27.400
<v Speaker 1>And I had my computer in front of me and

1:29:27.400 --> 1:29:29.000
<v Speaker 1>I looked it up and I'm like, oh, yeah, Jimmy

1:29:29.040 --> 1:29:31.360
<v Speaker 1>kimbl Okay, I got that uh, and then I had

1:29:31.400 --> 1:29:35.120
<v Speaker 1>met you literally one time before, um, and I didn't

1:29:35.120 --> 1:29:37.120
<v Speaker 1>know Todd Furman, So I was just like I was

1:29:37.160 --> 1:29:40.519
<v Speaker 1>going in pretty blind for sure. So how so first

1:29:40.520 --> 1:29:43.760
<v Speaker 1>of all they announced the show and are you like

1:29:44.240 --> 1:29:47.439
<v Speaker 1>people immediately are going to say things bad about me? Right? Like?

1:29:47.520 --> 1:29:50.559
<v Speaker 1>I did anybody say anything bad about sal Or Furman

1:29:50.640 --> 1:29:53.519
<v Speaker 1>to you? Um? I don't think so. I think it

1:29:53.560 --> 1:29:55.479
<v Speaker 1>was all yeah. I remember my mom calling me and

1:29:55.520 --> 1:29:58.479
<v Speaker 1>being like who, Like what is this Clay's guy? What

1:29:58.600 --> 1:30:01.000
<v Speaker 1>is this deal? Like? Why is everyone one? You know?

1:30:01.080 --> 1:30:04.280
<v Speaker 1>You would sink when you announced the show that everyone's

1:30:04.280 --> 1:30:06.280
<v Speaker 1>going to be like raw raw raw, Yes, like this

1:30:06.439 --> 1:30:08.960
<v Speaker 1>is amazing, congratulations and they're like I would watch it

1:30:09.000 --> 1:30:12.200
<v Speaker 1>if Clay Travis wasn't on it. It's like what am

1:30:12.200 --> 1:30:16.920
<v Speaker 1>I signing up for? Oh my goodness? Um, but I

1:30:17.000 --> 1:30:19.000
<v Speaker 1>was excited. I remember there's a photo of my mom

1:30:19.080 --> 1:30:21.519
<v Speaker 1>that my aunt's hook when I called her and told

1:30:21.520 --> 1:30:23.200
<v Speaker 1>her that I got the job, and it's just like

1:30:23.280 --> 1:30:25.760
<v Speaker 1>her with a huge smile on her face being like,

1:30:25.840 --> 1:30:29.759
<v Speaker 1>oh my god. So that was pretty cool. But it's exciting.

1:30:29.800 --> 1:30:33.280
<v Speaker 1>I mean, it's like a new venture and people that

1:30:33.360 --> 1:30:36.080
<v Speaker 1>have watched you grow for as long as people have

1:30:36.080 --> 1:30:38.360
<v Speaker 1>been watching me grow. I think when I say, like,

1:30:38.520 --> 1:30:40.320
<v Speaker 1>all right, I'm moving on to TV, people are like

1:30:40.439 --> 1:30:42.160
<v Speaker 1>that is awesome. Like I said, I've had a lot

1:30:42.280 --> 1:30:45.040
<v Speaker 1>of I've been really lucky and had a lot of

1:30:45.640 --> 1:30:51.160
<v Speaker 1>uh positive people following me, and so I I don't

1:30:51.200 --> 1:30:55.479
<v Speaker 1>really get a lot of nasty stuff unless you're Tom

1:30:55.479 --> 1:30:58.559
<v Speaker 1>Allen Bauld. Yeah, of course. So how nervous were you

1:30:59.160 --> 1:31:03.080
<v Speaker 1>before the first show? Um, I was freaking out. I

1:31:03.120 --> 1:31:04.920
<v Speaker 1>was freaking out, and I was freaking out for a

1:31:04.960 --> 1:31:08.840
<v Speaker 1>long while after that. Like I the first half of

1:31:08.840 --> 1:31:11.840
<v Speaker 1>of our season, I probably didn't sleep much. Like I

1:31:11.880 --> 1:31:15.000
<v Speaker 1>was just like constantly in fear of getting something wrong.

1:31:16.520 --> 1:31:19.719
<v Speaker 1>And like that dates back to when I was a kid,

1:31:19.760 --> 1:31:23.800
<v Speaker 1>Like I didn't have somebody who was being like great job,

1:31:23.920 --> 1:31:26.719
<v Speaker 1>Like you should have all the confidence in the world, because,

1:31:26.760 --> 1:31:28.639
<v Speaker 1>like like I said, my parents were busy with other things.

1:31:29.280 --> 1:31:32.599
<v Speaker 1>And so my therapist has helped me and navigate that road. Um,

1:31:32.680 --> 1:31:35.639
<v Speaker 1>but uh so I'm constantly just in fear of like

1:31:35.760 --> 1:31:39.240
<v Speaker 1>being wrong, saying the wrong thing, not doing well, screwing up,

1:31:39.280 --> 1:31:41.840
<v Speaker 1>getting fired. I mean even yesterday we had our you know,

1:31:41.880 --> 1:31:45.000
<v Speaker 1>we've we've had our season premiere of of season two

1:31:45.000 --> 1:31:49.439
<v Speaker 1>of Blocking In, and um, my boss was just like, yeah,

1:31:49.439 --> 1:31:50.720
<v Speaker 1>I got I got a couple of notes. I'm like,

1:31:50.800 --> 1:31:52.439
<v Speaker 1>you know, you have to call me tonight and tell

1:31:52.479 --> 1:31:54.200
<v Speaker 1>me those notes now or else I will think about

1:31:54.240 --> 1:31:56.120
<v Speaker 1>it until tomorrow morning. And they were all good notes.

1:31:56.560 --> 1:31:57.920
<v Speaker 1>But he called me like, I know, I had to

1:31:57.920 --> 1:32:00.000
<v Speaker 1>call you because you're just gonna go crazy over these things.

1:32:00.000 --> 1:32:01.680
<v Speaker 1>And he's like, I'm guess I'm glad that you know

1:32:01.840 --> 1:32:03.840
<v Speaker 1>the kind of person I am now. Um, but it

1:32:03.920 --> 1:32:06.720
<v Speaker 1>took a while to kind of find my footing and

1:32:06.800 --> 1:32:10.599
<v Speaker 1>get comfortable. And live television is terrifying when you're first

1:32:10.600 --> 1:32:14.040
<v Speaker 1>starting out, and I think people, I'm sure people realize

1:32:14.080 --> 1:32:15.800
<v Speaker 1>that it's a scary thing, but when you're sitting in

1:32:15.840 --> 1:32:17.880
<v Speaker 1>front of the camera, you feel so I felt like

1:32:17.920 --> 1:32:20.040
<v Speaker 1>a kid. I felt like a child that first day, like,

1:32:20.080 --> 1:32:22.559
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, somebody please hold my hand and walk

1:32:22.640 --> 1:32:25.320
<v Speaker 1>me through this because I cannot do it alone. But

1:32:25.360 --> 1:32:27.360
<v Speaker 1>thankfully I just like blacked out and got through it

1:32:27.400 --> 1:32:28.720
<v Speaker 1>and got through the next day and the next day

1:32:28.720 --> 1:32:30.000
<v Speaker 1>and the next day, and now I'm like, you know,

1:32:30.320 --> 1:32:33.639
<v Speaker 1>pretty used to it and feel much more confident about

1:32:33.680 --> 1:32:36.439
<v Speaker 1>everything in terms of you know what, we're talking about,

1:32:36.439 --> 1:32:39.840
<v Speaker 1>but it was pretty scary there for a while. So

1:32:40.040 --> 1:32:43.760
<v Speaker 1>what I think is fascinating about you in particular is

1:32:44.200 --> 1:32:49.920
<v Speaker 1>you're young, um, but you don't like you can be

1:32:50.000 --> 1:32:52.880
<v Speaker 1>made fun of on the television show in a way

1:32:52.880 --> 1:32:55.760
<v Speaker 1>that I think a lot of people can't. Um, and

1:32:56.280 --> 1:32:58.160
<v Speaker 1>like people make fun of me all the time. Whatever

1:32:58.200 --> 1:33:00.760
<v Speaker 1>I'm forty, I've been through, you know, like that's kind

1:33:00.800 --> 1:33:03.200
<v Speaker 1>of been my life story for a while. But I

1:33:03.240 --> 1:33:05.960
<v Speaker 1>feel like in this Instagram age that we're in, so

1:33:06.040 --> 1:33:08.640
<v Speaker 1>many people are like they want to put out a

1:33:08.760 --> 1:33:13.200
<v Speaker 1>version of themselves is perfect, but you're comfortable in the imperfect.

1:33:13.400 --> 1:33:18.680
<v Speaker 1>Why do you think that is? Um? I don't know.

1:33:18.960 --> 1:33:20.760
<v Speaker 1>I think I just want to be I know it's

1:33:20.920 --> 1:33:24.080
<v Speaker 1>gonna sounds so losory, but I just want to be

1:33:24.840 --> 1:33:28.439
<v Speaker 1>me because I look at so many other people on

1:33:28.479 --> 1:33:31.400
<v Speaker 1>Instagram they're like putting out this perfect version of themselves

1:33:31.400 --> 1:33:35.080
<v Speaker 1>and like, to be honest, I definitely curate my Instagram

1:33:35.080 --> 1:33:37.160
<v Speaker 1>to what I wanted to be. I'm not like showing

1:33:37.160 --> 1:33:41.519
<v Speaker 1>all the sad stuff that I've talked about on here, um,

1:33:41.560 --> 1:33:43.639
<v Speaker 1>but I feel like it would be so easy for

1:33:43.760 --> 1:33:49.759
<v Speaker 1>me to post photos where I'm like looking good and

1:33:49.960 --> 1:33:52.679
<v Speaker 1>you know, feeling good, and I feel like my followers

1:33:52.720 --> 1:33:56.479
<v Speaker 1>would probably jump way up. And you know, anytime I

1:33:56.520 --> 1:33:59.280
<v Speaker 1>even post a selfie on my Instagram, it's like astronomically

1:33:59.280 --> 1:34:01.639
<v Speaker 1>more like said, if I were to post the sunset picture,

1:34:01.680 --> 1:34:04.280
<v Speaker 1>you know what I mean. So I can see what works,

1:34:04.840 --> 1:34:07.080
<v Speaker 1>but I just don't want to be that. I feel

1:34:07.080 --> 1:34:10.479
<v Speaker 1>like I absolutely want to be an advocate for women

1:34:10.680 --> 1:34:13.400
<v Speaker 1>in this space in sports and in television, and there's

1:34:13.439 --> 1:34:15.880
<v Speaker 1>not a ton of us. And so when I'm looking

1:34:15.880 --> 1:34:19.800
<v Speaker 1>at somebody, whether it's on social media or TV and

1:34:19.840 --> 1:34:22.519
<v Speaker 1>I and they've got like, you know, gigantic boobs and

1:34:22.520 --> 1:34:24.439
<v Speaker 1>they look perfect, I'm like, I can't do that. I

1:34:24.479 --> 1:34:27.000
<v Speaker 1>can't be that person. But maybe if somebody's watching me

1:34:27.080 --> 1:34:29.799
<v Speaker 1>and I'm being a goofball and totally imperfect and messing

1:34:29.840 --> 1:34:33.160
<v Speaker 1>up my lines and laughing at myself, and maybe they're like, Okay,

1:34:33.240 --> 1:34:35.439
<v Speaker 1>I can do that and be probably better than that.

1:34:36.240 --> 1:34:38.720
<v Speaker 1>I just I do think about that a lot, and

1:34:38.760 --> 1:34:41.640
<v Speaker 1>I would never want to be somebody that I'm not

1:34:41.840 --> 1:34:46.439
<v Speaker 1>and and that version of you know, and kudos to

1:34:46.479 --> 1:34:48.920
<v Speaker 1>those women who can feel comfortable in their skin and

1:34:48.960 --> 1:34:50.679
<v Speaker 1>be sexy and all that stuff. That's just like not

1:34:51.360 --> 1:34:55.120
<v Speaker 1>who I am, and I never want to be like that.

1:34:55.200 --> 1:34:58.919
<v Speaker 1>I just want to be the goofy me that I am.

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<v Speaker 1>on things that I say or do, and people are like,

1:35:19.600 --> 1:35:22.679
<v Speaker 1>how in the world can you stand that awful human being,

1:35:22.720 --> 1:35:27.599
<v Speaker 1>Clay Travis. People, A lot of people who are listening

1:35:27.640 --> 1:35:30.760
<v Speaker 1>to this right now are already going to like me

1:35:30.880 --> 1:35:32.720
<v Speaker 1>or at least tolerate me. But also there will be

1:35:32.760 --> 1:35:34.920
<v Speaker 1>people who are listening to this right now that are

1:35:35.040 --> 1:35:37.320
<v Speaker 1>fans of yours that don't really know me, or they

1:35:37.320 --> 1:35:39.519
<v Speaker 1>are fans, or they're just finding this, And I hope

1:35:39.520 --> 1:35:41.439
<v Speaker 1>this is something people will listen to for a long

1:35:41.479 --> 1:35:43.320
<v Speaker 1>time in the future, and they're listening to this after

1:35:43.360 --> 1:35:46.360
<v Speaker 1>you just won an Emmy or after you after you

1:35:46.439 --> 1:35:50.080
<v Speaker 1>just won some award for an acting related venture. But

1:35:50.400 --> 1:35:53.280
<v Speaker 1>what I would argue is people don't have to agree

1:35:53.280 --> 1:35:56.719
<v Speaker 1>on everything to like each other, right, And I address

1:35:56.800 --> 1:35:59.000
<v Speaker 1>this because I'm sure that you're gonna get tagged as

1:35:59.040 --> 1:36:00.320
<v Speaker 1>soon as I put it up, Like, how in the

1:36:00.400 --> 1:36:02.320
<v Speaker 1>world can you spend time with Clay like you and

1:36:02.360 --> 1:36:04.080
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree on a lot of different things in

1:36:04.120 --> 1:36:05.960
<v Speaker 1>the world. I don't agree on one of different things

1:36:05.960 --> 1:36:08.240
<v Speaker 1>with my wife or my parents everybody else. I tend

1:36:08.280 --> 1:36:11.519
<v Speaker 1>to get along with everyone. And I feel like there's

1:36:11.720 --> 1:36:13.679
<v Speaker 1>a sort of zeit guest that's out there right now

1:36:13.800 --> 1:36:16.760
<v Speaker 1>of if you don't agree with everything, you shouldn't be

1:36:16.840 --> 1:36:19.800
<v Speaker 1>hanging out with this person. And I feel like, even

1:36:19.800 --> 1:36:22.160
<v Speaker 1>though we disagree on things, you probably agree with me.

1:36:22.240 --> 1:36:24.559
<v Speaker 1>That life would be kind of boring if you only

1:36:24.640 --> 1:36:26.599
<v Speaker 1>hung out with people who agreed with you on everything.

1:36:27.280 --> 1:36:28.799
<v Speaker 1>I think that's true. And I think that, if anything,

1:36:28.880 --> 1:36:31.479
<v Speaker 1>you have taught me that this year, because I feel like,

1:36:32.439 --> 1:36:35.559
<v Speaker 1>you know, I'm, you know, pretty to the left and

1:36:35.800 --> 1:36:38.599
<v Speaker 1>I don't agree with some of the things that that

1:36:38.680 --> 1:36:41.519
<v Speaker 1>you post, and um, same with some of my family,

1:36:41.600 --> 1:36:43.800
<v Speaker 1>Like some of my family voted for Trump and I

1:36:43.800 --> 1:36:48.080
<v Speaker 1>don't necessarily agree with that, but um, that doesn't necessarily

1:36:48.120 --> 1:36:52.439
<v Speaker 1>mean they're an absolutely atrocious person. And I think that, Um,

1:36:52.800 --> 1:36:55.880
<v Speaker 1>it's like our society is a mess right now because

1:36:55.880 --> 1:36:57.519
<v Speaker 1>all of us hate each other because of where we

1:36:57.560 --> 1:37:01.000
<v Speaker 1>stand politically, and that's just never really been the case before,

1:37:01.400 --> 1:37:03.320
<v Speaker 1>and it's only going to make problems worse. So I

1:37:03.360 --> 1:37:05.519
<v Speaker 1>think that, you know, going into this show, I was like,

1:37:06.040 --> 1:37:07.920
<v Speaker 1>oh my god, I'm gonna have to Travis. He was

1:37:07.920 --> 1:37:10.080
<v Speaker 1>just talking about boobs on CNN, Like, how am I

1:37:10.080 --> 1:37:11.760
<v Speaker 1>going to what you think? By the way, when you

1:37:11.840 --> 1:37:13.519
<v Speaker 1>heard that, I said that I was the first amendment

1:37:13.560 --> 1:37:16.640
<v Speaker 1>in boobs absolut you know, like you were Dingleberry, I

1:37:16.680 --> 1:37:19.320
<v Speaker 1>was like, this guy's a loser. What is he doing?

1:37:19.360 --> 1:37:21.240
<v Speaker 1>He's trying to get a right, like a rise out

1:37:21.240 --> 1:37:24.840
<v Speaker 1>of women. And I was, I was, I remember you.

1:37:24.960 --> 1:37:27.000
<v Speaker 1>I was talking to somebody, one of my girlfriends who

1:37:27.080 --> 1:37:28.960
<v Speaker 1>was also working in sports, and we were talking about

1:37:28.960 --> 1:37:31.040
<v Speaker 1>it the day that you did that, and I was

1:37:31.080 --> 1:37:33.160
<v Speaker 1>just like I was pissed because it was at a

1:37:33.200 --> 1:37:35.599
<v Speaker 1>time I think, like the me too stuff was happening,

1:37:35.640 --> 1:37:37.439
<v Speaker 1>and it was just a time to be angry as

1:37:37.439 --> 1:37:39.920
<v Speaker 1>a woman. And I was just like, how dare he?

1:37:40.120 --> 1:37:42.320
<v Speaker 1>Like that's just so stupid. Give us a little bit

1:37:42.360 --> 1:37:44.519
<v Speaker 1>more than that, and like talk about women in a

1:37:44.520 --> 1:37:46.760
<v Speaker 1>way that we deserve to be talked about, not just

1:37:46.800 --> 1:37:50.360
<v Speaker 1>like from our boobs, and I was. I was genuinely angry.

1:37:50.520 --> 1:37:53.360
<v Speaker 1>And then you know, people I say stupid stuff too,

1:37:53.400 --> 1:37:55.400
<v Speaker 1>and not to say that, you know, you should have

1:37:55.439 --> 1:37:56.840
<v Speaker 1>said that. You shouldn't have said that. We don't need

1:37:56.840 --> 1:37:59.040
<v Speaker 1>to go back into that. But I think that just

1:37:59.080 --> 1:38:03.640
<v Speaker 1>because somebody tweet something or says something that does not

1:38:04.120 --> 1:38:09.240
<v Speaker 1>tell you totally and completely who that person is. And

1:38:09.280 --> 1:38:11.120
<v Speaker 1>I think that that's what I've learned this year from

1:38:11.120 --> 1:38:12.479
<v Speaker 1>doing the show. And sal and I had a lot

1:38:12.479 --> 1:38:14.439
<v Speaker 1>of conversations about this in the beginning because him and

1:38:14.479 --> 1:38:17.880
<v Speaker 1>I are, you know, relatively similar, and you know what

1:38:17.920 --> 1:38:19.760
<v Speaker 1>we what we think and what we feel. I don't

1:38:19.800 --> 1:38:22.639
<v Speaker 1>mean to speak for him, but um, Tim and I

1:38:22.680 --> 1:38:24.639
<v Speaker 1>have this conversation like we totally thought we were gonna

1:38:24.640 --> 1:38:25.920
<v Speaker 1>hate you because we thought you were gonna be a

1:38:26.000 --> 1:38:28.639
<v Speaker 1>butt head, and you're not. You invited my mom into

1:38:28.640 --> 1:38:31.840
<v Speaker 1>your home, and my mom's met your mom, and our

1:38:31.880 --> 1:38:34.760
<v Speaker 1>families have come together and you've been nothing but nice

1:38:34.800 --> 1:38:37.280
<v Speaker 1>and supportive to me and my career. And it's a

1:38:37.280 --> 1:38:39.280
<v Speaker 1>little bit disappointing that you're not as big of an

1:38:39.280 --> 1:38:40.760
<v Speaker 1>asshole as I thought you were going to be, because

1:38:40.800 --> 1:38:45.320
<v Speaker 1>I was fully prepared to hate you you are. You know,

1:38:45.360 --> 1:38:48.800
<v Speaker 1>I think that you're right. I think that um, you know,

1:38:48.840 --> 1:38:50.599
<v Speaker 1>I I'm not going to agree with everything that you say,

1:38:50.600 --> 1:38:52.080
<v Speaker 1>and you're not gonna agree with everything that I say.

1:38:52.120 --> 1:38:55.640
<v Speaker 1>But that doesn't mean that we should not try to

1:38:55.840 --> 1:38:57.680
<v Speaker 1>be friends. Because what I've realized is that you and

1:38:57.720 --> 1:38:59.759
<v Speaker 1>I do have a lot in common and we stand

1:38:59.800 --> 1:39:01.760
<v Speaker 1>on the same ground in some places, and that's what

1:39:01.880 --> 1:39:05.120
<v Speaker 1>makes people friends, and that's what makes relationships happen. And

1:39:05.360 --> 1:39:08.719
<v Speaker 1>I think that more people should have, uh an outlook

1:39:08.840 --> 1:39:11.320
<v Speaker 1>on that. And in fact, I spend some time with

1:39:11.360 --> 1:39:14.280
<v Speaker 1>my my uncle who you know, otherwise I'm I have

1:39:14.360 --> 1:39:16.000
<v Speaker 1>nothing in common with a couple of weeks ago and

1:39:16.439 --> 1:39:18.479
<v Speaker 1>him and I had a conversation which we hadn't had

1:39:18.600 --> 1:39:20.479
<v Speaker 1>in like a couple of years, and I tried to

1:39:20.520 --> 1:39:23.080
<v Speaker 1>be on common ground because that's trying, like, that's me

1:39:23.160 --> 1:39:26.320
<v Speaker 1>trying to look at the world in this light. Now,

1:39:26.439 --> 1:39:29.280
<v Speaker 1>you know, Uh, last couple of questions for you, and

1:39:29.320 --> 1:39:34.880
<v Speaker 1>thanks for all the times. Uh, the last couple of

1:39:34.960 --> 1:39:36.840
<v Speaker 1>questions for you. You're not even ten years out of

1:39:36.880 --> 1:39:40.519
<v Speaker 1>high school. If that's weird, Yeah, And I still think

1:39:40.520 --> 1:39:41.800
<v Speaker 1>that's crazy. And I think there's a lot of people

1:39:41.800 --> 1:39:43.720
<v Speaker 1>who are going to be listening and think that's crazy too,

1:39:43.720 --> 1:39:45.920
<v Speaker 1>because you remember your ten year high school unions or

1:39:45.920 --> 1:39:49.559
<v Speaker 1>whatever else. But if you were about to have your

1:39:49.640 --> 1:39:52.439
<v Speaker 1>twenty year high school reunion, so eleven years from now,

1:39:52.520 --> 1:39:55.559
<v Speaker 1>a decade plus, what would you hope you have done

1:39:55.640 --> 1:40:02.479
<v Speaker 1>by thirty eight that you haven't done b by thirty eight.

1:40:03.800 --> 1:40:07.960
<v Speaker 1>I hope that, first off, I really just hope that

1:40:08.000 --> 1:40:11.960
<v Speaker 1>I'm happy, because we can. I feel like this phase

1:40:12.000 --> 1:40:14.479
<v Speaker 1>of my life, I'm realizing like I've already done a

1:40:14.479 --> 1:40:17.280
<v Speaker 1>ton of stuff with my career, and um, that's it.

1:40:17.439 --> 1:40:20.240
<v Speaker 1>It's it's not everything. Money, isn't everything your accolades, like,

1:40:20.280 --> 1:40:22.639
<v Speaker 1>it's just not It's not what you want to leave

1:40:22.720 --> 1:40:24.280
<v Speaker 1>the world with. So I hope that I'm in a

1:40:24.280 --> 1:40:27.599
<v Speaker 1>place that I am happy and not so career obsessed,

1:40:27.600 --> 1:40:29.320
<v Speaker 1>which I am right now. I hope that that kind

1:40:29.320 --> 1:40:31.680
<v Speaker 1>of like dies down a little teeny tiny bit and

1:40:31.760 --> 1:40:34.320
<v Speaker 1>I'm at a place that I'm happy with. But also

1:40:34.439 --> 1:40:38.240
<v Speaker 1>that I just like keep on growing and taking on

1:40:38.280 --> 1:40:42.080
<v Speaker 1>more opportunities and and just staying the same person and

1:40:42.160 --> 1:40:45.479
<v Speaker 1>not becoming, um a jerk or an asshole. And I

1:40:45.520 --> 1:40:47.800
<v Speaker 1>feel like going home helps that a lot, because my

1:40:47.880 --> 1:40:50.400
<v Speaker 1>mom still lives in a very very small town with

1:40:50.439 --> 1:40:53.200
<v Speaker 1>only like a hundred people. And so going back to

1:40:53.240 --> 1:40:55.639
<v Speaker 1>those places where no one knows who you are and

1:40:56.040 --> 1:41:00.600
<v Speaker 1>um you're treated like everybody else is is very grounding

1:41:00.640 --> 1:41:03.000
<v Speaker 1>and a beautiful thing for me. And then I just

1:41:03.080 --> 1:41:05.840
<v Speaker 1>keep on making stuff because we can, so we can

1:41:05.840 --> 1:41:07.920
<v Speaker 1>get caught up in our busy day to day, Like

1:41:07.960 --> 1:41:09.400
<v Speaker 1>we do a live show every single day, it's almost

1:41:09.400 --> 1:41:11.280
<v Speaker 1>impossible to go home and have energy to do anything

1:41:11.360 --> 1:41:15.840
<v Speaker 1>like a freaking two hour podcast right now. But UM,

1:41:15.960 --> 1:41:17.680
<v Speaker 1>I hope I came on writing and making something that

1:41:17.720 --> 1:41:20.400
<v Speaker 1>I'm really proud of. And um, I've got some projects

1:41:20.479 --> 1:41:21.880
<v Speaker 1>on the on the back burner that I'm going to

1:41:21.960 --> 1:41:24.160
<v Speaker 1>try and put my all into this year and snap

1:41:24.200 --> 1:41:27.880
<v Speaker 1>again like I did when I was like ten years ago. Um,

1:41:27.920 --> 1:41:31.599
<v Speaker 1>And I just hope I'm happy, I said last, this

1:41:31.640 --> 1:41:33.920
<v Speaker 1>is the last question. So you are what I like?

1:41:34.400 --> 1:41:37.240
<v Speaker 1>Is I like people who are honest, right and authentic

1:41:37.439 --> 1:41:40.240
<v Speaker 1>and just saying what they think and what they feel.

1:41:40.800 --> 1:41:44.040
<v Speaker 1>Um do you worry at all about being so open

1:41:44.560 --> 1:41:46.880
<v Speaker 1>and you know sort of an arrow where there are

1:41:46.920 --> 1:41:50.320
<v Speaker 1>almost no privacy at times? Right? Um? Or is that

1:41:50.400 --> 1:41:53.080
<v Speaker 1>just something you're naturally comfortable with because there's people who

1:41:53.080 --> 1:41:55.559
<v Speaker 1>are listening to this right now and they're going to say, Wow,

1:41:55.680 --> 1:41:58.479
<v Speaker 1>I love Rahl. I didn't know her before, and they're

1:41:58.520 --> 1:42:00.680
<v Speaker 1>gonna be like this. Every thing that she said in

1:42:00.720 --> 1:42:03.160
<v Speaker 1>this podcast was so honest and I knew you would,

1:42:03.720 --> 1:42:08.640
<v Speaker 1>but sometimes in our society that's rare. Yeah, well, I

1:42:08.680 --> 1:42:13.599
<v Speaker 1>think that, Um, I don't know for me, Okay, when

1:42:13.640 --> 1:42:15.679
<v Speaker 1>when I think about mental health, and I think about

1:42:16.520 --> 1:42:19.840
<v Speaker 1>depression and anxiety, and I also have obsessive compulsive disorder

1:42:19.920 --> 1:42:22.880
<v Speaker 1>that was really bad when I was younger. That used

1:42:22.880 --> 1:42:24.760
<v Speaker 1>to make me feel crazy. I used to think that

1:42:24.760 --> 1:42:27.040
<v Speaker 1>I was a crazy person and that nobody else on

1:42:27.120 --> 1:42:30.000
<v Speaker 1>this planet felt that way, and that made me feel isolated.

1:42:30.040 --> 1:42:32.759
<v Speaker 1>It made me feel disgusted when I thought about myself.

1:42:32.800 --> 1:42:37.519
<v Speaker 1>I hated myself for that. And it wasn't until you know, recently,

1:42:37.920 --> 1:42:40.800
<v Speaker 1>people have been more open about their mental health, and

1:42:41.160 --> 1:42:44.080
<v Speaker 1>I've learned more about obsessive compulsive disorder because people talk

1:42:44.120 --> 1:42:47.719
<v Speaker 1>about it more, and um, I've been able to feel

1:42:47.760 --> 1:42:51.160
<v Speaker 1>more comfortable in my skin, and so I feel like,

1:42:51.240 --> 1:42:53.839
<v Speaker 1>you know, there's there's nothing that I feel to attached

1:42:53.920 --> 1:42:56.320
<v Speaker 1>to in my personal life beside maybe like my personal relationship.

1:42:56.320 --> 1:42:57.960
<v Speaker 1>Would you guys like to make kind of almost every

1:42:57.960 --> 1:43:01.360
<v Speaker 1>single day. Don't know that he's ever going to propose

1:43:01.400 --> 1:43:05.599
<v Speaker 1>to you, to be honest. Besides that, like you know,

1:43:05.680 --> 1:43:09.120
<v Speaker 1>every everything that I've been through, I hope talking about

1:43:09.160 --> 1:43:11.080
<v Speaker 1>it helps other people go through it. Like the loss

1:43:11.120 --> 1:43:13.320
<v Speaker 1>of my father, that was something that I was really

1:43:13.320 --> 1:43:16.120
<v Speaker 1>really hard to overcome, and I can only hope. That's

1:43:16.160 --> 1:43:19.240
<v Speaker 1>why I talk about it, is that people talking about

1:43:19.360 --> 1:43:21.760
<v Speaker 1>things that pertain to me, when they're open about it,

1:43:21.760 --> 1:43:24.360
<v Speaker 1>it's made me feel better. So then I realize, Okay, well,

1:43:24.360 --> 1:43:26.880
<v Speaker 1>if I keep on pushing this and keep on talking

1:43:26.880 --> 1:43:29.120
<v Speaker 1>about whether it's mental health or grieving and death and

1:43:29.960 --> 1:43:33.400
<v Speaker 1>or success or being a female in sports, um or

1:43:33.439 --> 1:43:35.920
<v Speaker 1>being really lucky, you know, there's so many people that

1:43:35.920 --> 1:43:38.439
<v Speaker 1>could hear my story and be like, oh ship, like

1:43:38.479 --> 1:43:40.719
<v Speaker 1>it doesn't matter, Like if I work hard, I could

1:43:40.720 --> 1:43:43.720
<v Speaker 1>get lucky and and have this career that I've been

1:43:44.000 --> 1:43:45.760
<v Speaker 1>been I've been hoping for. So I think it's so

1:43:45.840 --> 1:43:50.439
<v Speaker 1>beneficial on in so many ways to be open about

1:43:50.479 --> 1:43:54.439
<v Speaker 1>your struggles and also your winds as well, because you

1:43:54.479 --> 1:43:57.400
<v Speaker 1>don't know who's listening, You don't know who it can

1:43:57.439 --> 1:44:03.000
<v Speaker 1>eventually help are you happy now. I'm pretty happy. I'm

1:44:03.040 --> 1:44:04.759
<v Speaker 1>getting there. I'm working on it. I go to therapy

1:44:04.760 --> 1:44:06.840
<v Speaker 1>every single week and that's been really helpful. It's do

1:44:06.840 --> 1:44:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you go to therapy? Do you talk to anybody? You

1:44:08.240 --> 1:44:14.360
<v Speaker 1>probably should? I have so many, so many voices in

1:44:14.400 --> 1:44:18.439
<v Speaker 1>my head. I just talked to them. Um No, I'm I'm.

1:44:18.479 --> 1:44:20.080
<v Speaker 1>I can say I'm definitely working on it. I think

1:44:20.120 --> 1:44:23.599
<v Speaker 1>I'm really I'm I'm finally this year, I'm like, wow,

1:44:23.840 --> 1:44:26.080
<v Speaker 1>I can't believe I've done so much, even even like

1:44:26.240 --> 1:44:28.240
<v Speaker 1>taking moments like this when I'm like looking back on

1:44:28.320 --> 1:44:30.800
<v Speaker 1>my career, even though it's been fairly short so far,

1:44:31.240 --> 1:44:33.439
<v Speaker 1>it's like I've done a lot and I've worked my

1:44:33.640 --> 1:44:37.600
<v Speaker 1>butt off, like I'm exhausted, and I'm still going and

1:44:37.640 --> 1:44:40.439
<v Speaker 1>I'm still so hungry for more. Um So, I don't

1:44:40.439 --> 1:44:43.160
<v Speaker 1>know if the lever be uh. I hope that one

1:44:43.200 --> 1:44:45.040
<v Speaker 1>day I can fully be like I'm good, I'm I'm

1:44:45.040 --> 1:44:46.640
<v Speaker 1>really happy in this space. I think that I'm just

1:44:46.720 --> 1:44:49.800
<v Speaker 1>so hungry right now for everything that's coming down the pipe,

1:44:49.840 --> 1:44:51.800
<v Speaker 1>and and for this new season will block it in

1:44:51.840 --> 1:44:54.599
<v Speaker 1>and next year and next year and next year, and um,

1:44:54.640 --> 1:44:56.800
<v Speaker 1>I'm just like so excited. I just want to do more.

1:44:56.840 --> 1:44:58.400
<v Speaker 1>I want to be exhausted at the end of every

1:44:58.400 --> 1:45:00.439
<v Speaker 1>single day, like you do Ray Go Show, you do

1:45:00.479 --> 1:45:02.559
<v Speaker 1>a podcast, you do television, Like do you probably feel

1:45:02.560 --> 1:45:04.559
<v Speaker 1>so fulfilled when you hit your pillow everything that you're

1:45:04.840 --> 1:45:08.240
<v Speaker 1>you're mentally and physically exhausted. I want to I want

1:45:08.240 --> 1:45:11.360
<v Speaker 1>to be feeling those things. Rachel Banantta Go follow her

1:45:11.400 --> 1:45:15.800
<v Speaker 1>on Twitter. She is outstanding. If you haven't before, I'm

1:45:15.840 --> 1:45:19.040
<v Speaker 1>telling you that in the years ahead, and I rarely

1:45:19.080 --> 1:45:21.360
<v Speaker 1>say this, in the years ahead, you're gonna do pretty

1:45:21.400 --> 1:45:23.320
<v Speaker 1>awesome stuff, and I'm excited to see all the things

1:45:23.360 --> 1:45:25.679
<v Speaker 1>that you're gonna do. But in the meantime, she's hanging

1:45:25.720 --> 1:45:28.560
<v Speaker 1>out with us on lock It In every single afternoon.

1:45:28.760 --> 1:45:31.360
<v Speaker 1>Go follower, And if you're listening to this year's down

1:45:31.360 --> 1:45:34.280
<v Speaker 1>the line, I think it'll be cool if you tag us,

1:45:34.640 --> 1:45:38.080
<v Speaker 1>assuming Twitter still around in ten years or My hope

1:45:38.160 --> 1:45:41.160
<v Speaker 1>is in doing these long form podcasts that they almost

1:45:41.200 --> 1:45:43.720
<v Speaker 1>stand as like, uh, you know, like different sort of

1:45:43.760 --> 1:45:45.720
<v Speaker 1>seminal moments where people can go back and be like, oh,

1:45:46.200 --> 1:45:47.800
<v Speaker 1>I hope that this is just as good to listen

1:45:47.840 --> 1:45:50.639
<v Speaker 1>to in a decade as it is next. Pretty cool,

1:45:51.280 --> 1:45:53.760
<v Speaker 1>very cool. Thanks for having anybody. Thank you. This Wins

1:45:53.760 --> 1:45:57.320
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