1 00:00:02,080 --> 00:00:05,760 Speaker 1: This is Wins and Losses with Clay Trevis. Play talks 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:09,840 Speaker 1: with the most entertaining people in sports, entertainment and business. 3 00:00:10,160 --> 00:00:25,040 Speaker 1: Now here's Clay Trevis. Welcome in weekly podcast Wins and Losses. 4 00:00:25,079 --> 00:00:27,400 Speaker 1: I hope you guys are enjoying this series. We are 5 00:00:27,400 --> 00:00:29,280 Speaker 1: having a lot of fun. If you're enjoying it, go 6 00:00:29,360 --> 00:00:31,560 Speaker 1: give us a five star rating and make fun of 7 00:00:31,600 --> 00:00:35,480 Speaker 1: our most recent guest, Joel Klatt. You can also make 8 00:00:35,479 --> 00:00:38,519 Speaker 1: fun of our current guest, Rachel Bonetta at Rachel Getta 9 00:00:38,680 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: on Twitter. She is already there and we are ready 10 00:00:42,280 --> 00:00:44,599 Speaker 1: to roll. You can watch her on lock it In 11 00:00:44,760 --> 00:00:47,520 Speaker 1: every single weekday Monday to Friday, now that we're into 12 00:00:47,520 --> 00:00:51,200 Speaker 1: season two, from at four thirty Eastern, three thirty Central 13 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,760 Speaker 1: to thirty Mountain one thirty Pacific. We are on for 14 00:00:53,800 --> 00:00:57,200 Speaker 1: an hour at least five days a week. And uh, 15 00:00:57,240 --> 00:00:59,880 Speaker 1: I don't know a lot about Rachel Bonetta's back or 16 00:01:00,520 --> 00:01:02,720 Speaker 1: other than the fact that she's an awful Canadian who 17 00:01:02,760 --> 00:01:05,920 Speaker 1: doesn't chat very often. So I'm actually curious to find 18 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,240 Speaker 1: out some of this information myself. So Rachel, first of all, 19 00:01:10,280 --> 00:01:13,959 Speaker 1: thanks for coming on. First off, I'm really sorry I 20 00:01:13,959 --> 00:01:15,560 Speaker 1: did not realize that we were supposed to give you 21 00:01:15,560 --> 00:01:17,920 Speaker 1: five first, I gave you one. I don't think I 22 00:01:17,920 --> 00:01:24,160 Speaker 1: can join the excited to be here, excited to chat 23 00:01:24,200 --> 00:01:26,880 Speaker 1: with you. Um, you're right. We worked together every single day, 24 00:01:26,880 --> 00:01:28,520 Speaker 1: and I think that we know kind of like surface 25 00:01:28,560 --> 00:01:32,000 Speaker 1: level information about each other. But I guess I'm excited 26 00:01:32,040 --> 00:01:36,119 Speaker 1: to spill all my dirty, juicy secrets on this podcast. Well, 27 00:01:36,160 --> 00:01:38,480 Speaker 1: I mean, I would say more than surface level because 28 00:01:38,520 --> 00:01:40,080 Speaker 1: your mom and I have been dating for a while. 29 00:01:40,240 --> 00:01:44,560 Speaker 1: But that's how we're gonna start. We really don't talk 30 00:01:44,600 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: that much about you. It's more about our relationship than 31 00:01:46,840 --> 00:01:48,720 Speaker 1: it is yours with your Oh why did I ever 32 00:01:48,800 --> 00:01:51,040 Speaker 1: agree to do this? That's a good question. Well, honestly, 33 00:01:51,520 --> 00:01:52,920 Speaker 1: I thought you were going to give me the heisman 34 00:01:52,960 --> 00:01:54,639 Speaker 1: on this because you were nervous. Why were you nervous 35 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,160 Speaker 1: to come on the show? I think it was nervous because, 36 00:01:59,040 --> 00:02:00,920 Speaker 1: you know, I feel like every other podcast that I've done, 37 00:02:00,920 --> 00:02:04,040 Speaker 1: which is not many by any means, Um, it's been 38 00:02:04,080 --> 00:02:07,640 Speaker 1: all this surface level again. It's it's all like, you know, 39 00:02:08,600 --> 00:02:10,880 Speaker 1: what have you been doing the last two years, and 40 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:12,960 Speaker 1: how do you like your job? And what do you 41 00:02:13,000 --> 00:02:14,920 Speaker 1: aspire to do in the future, And it's all been 42 00:02:15,000 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: very like boring, uh stuff, And I feel like you're 43 00:02:18,560 --> 00:02:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna ask me questions that are going to make me 44 00:02:20,240 --> 00:02:25,200 Speaker 1: uncomfortable answer them because I've agreed new that's already. So 45 00:02:25,560 --> 00:02:28,520 Speaker 1: I'm I'm excited. Let's make you uncomfortable right up. So 46 00:02:28,600 --> 00:02:30,120 Speaker 1: first of all, I hear what I Here's what I 47 00:02:30,120 --> 00:02:32,520 Speaker 1: know about you. You grew up in Canada. You have 48 00:02:32,720 --> 00:02:36,440 Speaker 1: three older brothers, which makes our show almost a little 49 00:02:36,480 --> 00:02:39,160 Speaker 1: bit of a reflection of what your life was like. 50 00:02:39,720 --> 00:02:42,639 Speaker 1: So take me into Canada. I don't know much about Canada. 51 00:02:42,639 --> 00:02:44,799 Speaker 1: I bet a lot of our listeners don't. But if 52 00:02:44,840 --> 00:02:46,760 Speaker 1: we do know something about Candida, it's like, okay, we 53 00:02:46,760 --> 00:02:49,960 Speaker 1: know something about Toronto. We know maybe Montreal, maybe Vancouver. 54 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:52,120 Speaker 1: Where did you grow up? What was it like when 55 00:02:52,160 --> 00:02:55,280 Speaker 1: you were a kid. I grew up about two and 56 00:02:55,280 --> 00:02:58,360 Speaker 1: a half hours outside of Toronto, UM in a really 57 00:02:58,360 --> 00:03:02,359 Speaker 1: really small town called or Know, and I lived on 58 00:03:02,520 --> 00:03:07,040 Speaker 1: forty six acres. We had a huge property. UM probably 59 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,280 Speaker 1: like middle class family. My dad drove transport trucks and 60 00:03:10,280 --> 00:03:13,320 Speaker 1: my mom was a school secretary. Uh. And I used 61 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,320 Speaker 1: to ride four wheelers and dirt bikes and fight with 62 00:03:16,360 --> 00:03:18,239 Speaker 1: my brothers. There's a huge age gap between me and 63 00:03:18,280 --> 00:03:20,600 Speaker 1: the youngest brother. It's eight years, so they were all 64 00:03:20,639 --> 00:03:24,000 Speaker 1: so much older than me. Um, and it was like 65 00:03:24,040 --> 00:03:26,280 Speaker 1: a dog eat dog world in my house. It's like 66 00:03:26,480 --> 00:03:28,640 Speaker 1: you had to fend for yourself or else you were 67 00:03:28,639 --> 00:03:31,440 Speaker 1: gonna get the crap kind of kicked out of you. Um. 68 00:03:31,480 --> 00:03:33,240 Speaker 1: And I was the only girl too, so I feel 69 00:03:33,240 --> 00:03:35,080 Speaker 1: like the guys really wanted to make me tough and 70 00:03:35,120 --> 00:03:37,080 Speaker 1: wanted to make me one of them. So you know, 71 00:03:37,120 --> 00:03:41,320 Speaker 1: I was like covered in dirt from an early age. Um. 72 00:03:41,360 --> 00:03:43,320 Speaker 1: But it was also a really beautiful place to grow 73 00:03:43,400 --> 00:03:45,760 Speaker 1: up because there was absolutely nothing around, nothing to do, 74 00:03:45,960 --> 00:03:48,640 Speaker 1: so I was all of us, the whole family are 75 00:03:48,680 --> 00:03:52,600 Speaker 1: really creative because we literally had like two blades of 76 00:03:52,640 --> 00:03:55,720 Speaker 1: grass to rub together to kind of entertain ourselves. So um, 77 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:59,280 Speaker 1: you know, I would we had like this huge woods 78 00:03:59,440 --> 00:04:02,360 Speaker 1: in our back yard and or behind our house, and 79 00:04:02,400 --> 00:04:05,760 Speaker 1: I was like always exploring and um, you know, really 80 00:04:05,800 --> 00:04:09,040 Speaker 1: trying to be a tag team for those guys. So yes, 81 00:04:09,240 --> 00:04:12,360 Speaker 1: it absolutely applies to our show. I feel like I've 82 00:04:12,400 --> 00:04:15,280 Speaker 1: been you know, um, speaking up for myself and fending 83 00:04:15,360 --> 00:04:19,320 Speaker 1: for myself from a very young age. And uh, it 84 00:04:19,400 --> 00:04:21,760 Speaker 1: really mimics my my life because all of you guys 85 00:04:21,760 --> 00:04:24,160 Speaker 1: are quite a bit older than me too, because Todd's 86 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:26,320 Speaker 1: what ten years older than I am, and he's the 87 00:04:26,320 --> 00:04:29,600 Speaker 1: youngest one on the show. So, um, it's very interesting 88 00:04:29,600 --> 00:04:33,279 Speaker 1: that I've found myself in this exact same dynamic. Uh 89 00:04:34,160 --> 00:04:37,200 Speaker 1: seven years old? All right, so you're twenty seven. You 90 00:04:37,240 --> 00:04:39,279 Speaker 1: grew up on forty six acres. I didn't know this 91 00:04:39,360 --> 00:04:42,520 Speaker 1: at all in are No, Like, how do you spell 92 00:04:42,560 --> 00:04:44,840 Speaker 1: the town that you're from in Canada? It's Toronto without 93 00:04:44,839 --> 00:04:50,600 Speaker 1: the teas? Are No? So how many people live there? 94 00:04:50,720 --> 00:04:52,680 Speaker 1: And and what did you do? So let's say you 95 00:04:52,800 --> 00:04:55,880 Speaker 1: leave the forty acres? What do you do? Like? What 96 00:04:55,920 --> 00:04:57,839 Speaker 1: did you guys do for fun? Is there a mall? Like? 97 00:04:58,040 --> 00:05:00,800 Speaker 1: How close is the movie at? Or like mall? Like 98 00:05:00,839 --> 00:05:03,279 Speaker 1: what did you do for fun? With the clothes? Movie? 99 00:05:03,320 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: Theater was probably forty five minutes away? Like we are 100 00:05:06,440 --> 00:05:10,440 Speaker 1: around nothing. I we didn't have next door neighbors. I 101 00:05:10,480 --> 00:05:14,320 Speaker 1: would have to like walk ten minutes up the street 102 00:05:14,360 --> 00:05:16,360 Speaker 1: to get to the next person that lived close to us, 103 00:05:16,400 --> 00:05:21,919 Speaker 1: my friend. Um, and we we really entertained ourselves. I 104 00:05:21,920 --> 00:05:24,880 Speaker 1: mean we had like a giant pond on our property. 105 00:05:24,960 --> 00:05:27,000 Speaker 1: So anytime in the summer we were like swimming in 106 00:05:27,040 --> 00:05:29,479 Speaker 1: that and my brothers were my best friends. I was 107 00:05:29,520 --> 00:05:31,640 Speaker 1: like always looking up to them, always trying to hang 108 00:05:31,680 --> 00:05:35,200 Speaker 1: out with them. Um. As I got older and U 109 00:05:35,440 --> 00:05:37,719 Speaker 1: went into high school, that's when I started to be 110 00:05:37,920 --> 00:05:41,800 Speaker 1: more interested in like getting out of the house and um, 111 00:05:41,839 --> 00:05:44,839 Speaker 1: you know, leaving my family and hanging out with my friends. 112 00:05:44,839 --> 00:05:46,400 Speaker 1: And then it was just like sure, we would take 113 00:05:46,400 --> 00:05:49,520 Speaker 1: a forty five minute bus ride to the Oshawa Center 114 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,039 Speaker 1: and like walk around the mall. But um, once I 115 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:54,839 Speaker 1: grew up in and was in high school, I moved 116 00:05:54,839 --> 00:05:58,040 Speaker 1: to a little bit of a bigger town that actually 117 00:05:58,120 --> 00:06:02,080 Speaker 1: had like stores, so um, but that wasn't until like 118 00:06:02,120 --> 00:06:04,040 Speaker 1: the ninth grade. So I really like I grew up. 119 00:06:04,320 --> 00:06:06,120 Speaker 1: It's insane that I live in Los Angeles now and 120 00:06:06,120 --> 00:06:07,880 Speaker 1: I'm doing what I'm doing because I grew up in 121 00:06:07,880 --> 00:06:10,520 Speaker 1: the middle of nowhere. My high school didn't even have 122 00:06:10,560 --> 00:06:14,200 Speaker 1: a drama program, nothing that would lead one to think 123 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,520 Speaker 1: that I would be in front of a camera. Um, 124 00:06:17,560 --> 00:06:19,599 Speaker 1: And it was just, uh, it was it was a 125 00:06:19,680 --> 00:06:22,239 Speaker 1: very like, you know, my family were my best friends, 126 00:06:22,240 --> 00:06:24,200 Speaker 1: and I was always wanted to wanting to be home. 127 00:06:24,200 --> 00:06:26,920 Speaker 1: But it's also because we had an amazing life, like 128 00:06:27,000 --> 00:06:30,000 Speaker 1: we I could go home and ride my four wheeler 129 00:06:30,040 --> 00:06:32,000 Speaker 1: around for hours until it was like dinner time. So 130 00:06:32,000 --> 00:06:34,359 Speaker 1: it was a lot of time spent solo slash mixed 131 00:06:34,360 --> 00:06:36,680 Speaker 1: with like hanging out with my family. So we're talking 132 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:38,640 Speaker 1: to Rachel Bannetta. You follow her on Twitter. This Clay 133 00:06:38,640 --> 00:06:41,599 Speaker 1: Travis wins and lost his podcast. How cold was it? 134 00:06:41,839 --> 00:06:44,039 Speaker 1: So you said you had you had like a pond 135 00:06:44,080 --> 00:06:46,440 Speaker 1: to swimming in the summer, Like how cold was it 136 00:06:46,560 --> 00:06:50,200 Speaker 1: in your part of Canada? And how it was? Yeah, 137 00:06:50,200 --> 00:06:52,200 Speaker 1: it was cold. We would, Um, we had like two 138 00:06:52,240 --> 00:06:54,000 Speaker 1: really big hills in front of our house, so we 139 00:06:54,040 --> 00:06:56,719 Speaker 1: would like, uh, my dad would take his tractor and 140 00:06:56,760 --> 00:06:59,200 Speaker 1: he would build jumps for us because we all snowboarded 141 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:02,080 Speaker 1: and skied, so we would. It's a miracle. I didn't 142 00:07:02,080 --> 00:07:04,400 Speaker 1: break a bone until a couple of weeks ago when 143 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:08,760 Speaker 1: I desiccated my shoulder, but trying. Yeah, exactly, I'm a lizard. 144 00:07:09,160 --> 00:07:12,640 Speaker 1: Um but uh so yeah, we would have like ski 145 00:07:12,720 --> 00:07:14,520 Speaker 1: jumps and like rails and stuff set up in our 146 00:07:14,520 --> 00:07:16,440 Speaker 1: front yard and then my dad would take a giant 147 00:07:16,560 --> 00:07:21,000 Speaker 1: like uh fire hose and put fresh water over our 148 00:07:21,080 --> 00:07:24,160 Speaker 1: already frozen over pond, so it would be a really 149 00:07:24,200 --> 00:07:26,880 Speaker 1: smooth surface to play hockey. And we would hold hockey 150 00:07:26,880 --> 00:07:29,000 Speaker 1: tournaments at our house from like for all of our 151 00:07:29,040 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: family to come to. So we would have like days 152 00:07:30,640 --> 00:07:32,880 Speaker 1: before Christmas at like all of our aunts and uncles 153 00:07:32,880 --> 00:07:35,560 Speaker 1: and cousins would come. We'd have like huge hockey tournaments. 154 00:07:35,600 --> 00:07:38,480 Speaker 1: Is the most Canadian thing sounding thing. I didn't realize 155 00:07:38,720 --> 00:07:41,640 Speaker 1: we would have crazy hockey tournaments on our pond because 156 00:07:41,640 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: it was like a beautiful rink. It was like, those 157 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:46,800 Speaker 1: are some of the best childhood memories for me. So 158 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,760 Speaker 1: the Raptors obviously were a part of your childhood. Were 159 00:07:49,800 --> 00:07:52,520 Speaker 1: you a big hockey fan and how much what did 160 00:07:52,520 --> 00:07:57,400 Speaker 1: the Raptors mean to you growing up? Um? I never 161 00:07:57,440 --> 00:08:02,080 Speaker 1: attached myself to hockey team because my dad hated the 162 00:08:02,200 --> 00:08:04,800 Speaker 1: Leafs for whatever reason. I think that he loved to 163 00:08:04,840 --> 00:08:07,320 Speaker 1: watch them to hate them. So we were raised in 164 00:08:07,400 --> 00:08:10,000 Speaker 1: like an anti trying to make the Leaf's household. But 165 00:08:10,040 --> 00:08:12,200 Speaker 1: we were living in Ontario, so it's kind of hard to, 166 00:08:12,600 --> 00:08:14,520 Speaker 1: you know, really find another team that I loved, so 167 00:08:14,600 --> 00:08:16,480 Speaker 1: not some I played a lot of hockey, played hockey 168 00:08:16,520 --> 00:08:21,320 Speaker 1: for like five years, um, but then basketball. I remember 169 00:08:21,320 --> 00:08:24,840 Speaker 1: waking up on my ninth birthday and I had a 170 00:08:24,880 --> 00:08:27,560 Speaker 1: canopy bed, and I woke up probably like three AM, 171 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,840 Speaker 1: and somehow my brother and his girlfriend had snuck into 172 00:08:29,880 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: my room and put like a friend. I can still 173 00:08:32,960 --> 00:08:38,440 Speaker 1: remember looking at it, a fresh Crisp White fifteen Raptor's jersey, 174 00:08:38,520 --> 00:08:41,520 Speaker 1: Vince Carter's jersey, and hung it up on my canopy 175 00:08:41,600 --> 00:08:43,599 Speaker 1: with a letter saying like, happy birthday. I hope you 176 00:08:43,720 --> 00:08:45,640 Speaker 1: enjoyed this. That dude and the Raptors were pretty new 177 00:08:45,679 --> 00:08:49,319 Speaker 1: at that point, especially Vince Carter. He's like taking over 178 00:08:49,360 --> 00:08:52,400 Speaker 1: the city and I just, oh, my gosh. I did 179 00:08:52,440 --> 00:08:55,400 Speaker 1: not take that jersey off for probably a year. It 180 00:08:55,520 --> 00:08:57,439 Speaker 1: was like you, I see photos of it and it's 181 00:08:57,480 --> 00:09:00,480 Speaker 1: just covered in grass stains. And I was bringing a 182 00:09:00,480 --> 00:09:02,280 Speaker 1: basketball to school. I wanted to be in the w 183 00:09:02,440 --> 00:09:04,840 Speaker 1: n B A, and I was obsessed with Vince Carter. 184 00:09:04,880 --> 00:09:07,400 Speaker 1: I was so in love with him, like watching him 185 00:09:07,400 --> 00:09:11,360 Speaker 1: any chance I could. UM, and uh, I don't know why. 186 00:09:11,360 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: I don't know why I loved him so much, and 187 00:09:12,920 --> 00:09:15,000 Speaker 1: I why I fell in love with basketball. But then 188 00:09:15,040 --> 00:09:17,120 Speaker 1: I started playing basketball. I was like captain of my 189 00:09:17,120 --> 00:09:20,080 Speaker 1: seventh and eighth grade team. Um. And then as I 190 00:09:20,120 --> 00:09:21,960 Speaker 1: got older, I kind of fell off a little bit, 191 00:09:22,200 --> 00:09:24,360 Speaker 1: uh just because we started sucking a lot in Vince 192 00:09:24,400 --> 00:09:28,680 Speaker 1: Carter left and um you know, ugly fashion. But um 193 00:09:28,760 --> 00:09:31,480 Speaker 1: so it was so beautiful to come back these last 194 00:09:31,520 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: few years when they started to heat up again, and 195 00:09:34,160 --> 00:09:37,480 Speaker 1: then this year with Kauai. I was like bawling my 196 00:09:37,520 --> 00:09:39,680 Speaker 1: eyes out when they won because I was just thinking 197 00:09:39,720 --> 00:09:43,240 Speaker 1: about that nine year old girl who was obsessed with sports, 198 00:09:44,000 --> 00:09:46,760 Speaker 1: um and and loved Vince Carter so much, and I 199 00:09:46,800 --> 00:09:48,520 Speaker 1: was just thinking about like what I've done with my 200 00:09:48,600 --> 00:09:50,920 Speaker 1: career and my It was like a really like a 201 00:09:51,559 --> 00:09:54,679 Speaker 1: looking inside, deep down moment for me, and I just 202 00:09:54,720 --> 00:09:57,120 Speaker 1: couldn't stop crying on like this is so stupid a 203 00:09:57,200 --> 00:10:00,199 Speaker 1: sports game, and I was. I was really emotion all. 204 00:10:00,240 --> 00:10:02,720 Speaker 1: It just meant it meant a lot to uh younger 205 00:10:02,760 --> 00:10:05,360 Speaker 1: me and and and now me. You got to watch 206 00:10:05,360 --> 00:10:07,880 Speaker 1: it in person, Yeah, I went to go. I went 207 00:10:07,960 --> 00:10:11,640 Speaker 1: to was so lucky. Um one of my friends had 208 00:10:11,679 --> 00:10:13,680 Speaker 1: an extra ticket and asked me to go, and I 209 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:15,160 Speaker 1: was just like, oh my god, when am I gonna 210 00:10:15,360 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 1: We obviously didn't know that they were gonna win at 211 00:10:17,360 --> 00:10:20,040 Speaker 1: that point, but I was like, holy, this is gonna 212 00:10:20,040 --> 00:10:22,160 Speaker 1: be the last game Oracle too so I wanted to 213 00:10:22,160 --> 00:10:25,000 Speaker 1: go see that, um, and I was there to witness 214 00:10:25,000 --> 00:10:26,680 Speaker 1: it in person. There was like a small group of 215 00:10:26,760 --> 00:10:29,400 Speaker 1: us because obviously it's in away game, but there were 216 00:10:29,440 --> 00:10:32,160 Speaker 1: still so many traveling fans. There's probably hundred of us, 217 00:10:32,520 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: and we just like, uh, congregated in one area after 218 00:10:35,800 --> 00:10:39,440 Speaker 1: they won, and like everyone was emotional. Everyone was wearing 219 00:10:39,480 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: like old school jerseys and uh, you know Vince Carter, 220 00:10:43,360 --> 00:10:45,400 Speaker 1: DeMar De rose in. Like everyone was kind of all 221 00:10:45,400 --> 00:10:47,200 Speaker 1: over the place and you could just tell like, oh 222 00:10:47,240 --> 00:10:49,400 Speaker 1: my gosh, we all love this so much that we've 223 00:10:49,559 --> 00:10:52,600 Speaker 1: that we've traveled. It's like almost like the batch of 224 00:10:52,600 --> 00:10:56,200 Speaker 1: the most hardcore Raptors fans that you can find. Uh. 225 00:10:56,200 --> 00:10:58,480 Speaker 1: And we were all there and and they celebrated right 226 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,360 Speaker 1: in front of us and lifted the trophy and um, 227 00:11:01,360 --> 00:11:03,280 Speaker 1: it was just a really really cool moment. I'll remember that. 228 00:11:03,640 --> 00:11:05,280 Speaker 1: I kind of was just like, how do I want 229 00:11:05,280 --> 00:11:06,800 Speaker 1: to go? Like I have to work the next day 230 00:11:06,920 --> 00:11:09,280 Speaker 1: and it's all the way up in San Francisco, Like 231 00:11:09,280 --> 00:11:10,520 Speaker 1: do I really want to do that? I want to 232 00:11:10,520 --> 00:11:12,320 Speaker 1: spend the money, And I was just like, screw it, 233 00:11:12,360 --> 00:11:13,680 Speaker 1: what am I ever going to have this chance again? 234 00:11:13,679 --> 00:11:15,520 Speaker 1: I'm gonna remember. I'm gonna tell my kids about this 235 00:11:15,600 --> 00:11:19,000 Speaker 1: moment um, So it was it was something to remember 236 00:11:19,040 --> 00:11:21,960 Speaker 1: for sure. Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked 237 00:11:22,000 --> 00:11:24,720 Speaker 1: the coverage with Clay Travis week days at six am 238 00:11:24,760 --> 00:11:28,959 Speaker 1: Eastern three am Pacific. Your seven. You haven't even had 239 00:11:29,000 --> 00:11:31,600 Speaker 1: your ten year high school reunion yet, which is pretty 240 00:11:31,600 --> 00:11:34,360 Speaker 1: crazy to think about giving what you're doing now for 241 00:11:34,400 --> 00:11:38,200 Speaker 1: a living, That is insane. Yeah, So if you had been, 242 00:11:38,240 --> 00:11:40,760 Speaker 1: if if you had been when you were sixteen or 243 00:11:40,800 --> 00:11:43,840 Speaker 1: seventeen years old, asked what do you want to do 244 00:11:44,160 --> 00:11:46,439 Speaker 1: for a living? And everybody at sixteen and seventeen has 245 00:11:46,480 --> 00:11:49,400 Speaker 1: different answers. Had you hit on the idea of I 246 00:11:49,440 --> 00:11:52,360 Speaker 1: want to be involved in media and entertainment in some 247 00:11:52,520 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: former fashion yet and if not, when did you hit 248 00:11:55,400 --> 00:11:59,040 Speaker 1: on that idea? Yeah? When I was sixteen, I was 249 00:11:59,200 --> 00:12:02,480 Speaker 1: that's like the twelve right. I was volunteering at my 250 00:12:02,559 --> 00:12:05,880 Speaker 1: local news station. So I was like Mike in hand, 251 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:08,640 Speaker 1: ready to go. I always wanted to be an actress, 252 00:12:08,720 --> 00:12:12,840 Speaker 1: but I was just like that pause here for a second, 253 00:12:12,840 --> 00:12:15,200 Speaker 1: I want to go back and this so you your 254 00:12:15,320 --> 00:12:19,599 Speaker 1: local news is where local news was probably at the 255 00:12:19,679 --> 00:12:22,000 Speaker 1: time forty five minutes away from me like where I 256 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:25,440 Speaker 1: was going. But it was like local news oshwa, like 257 00:12:25,520 --> 00:12:27,400 Speaker 1: that area, that's what it was. You would you would 258 00:12:27,400 --> 00:12:29,200 Speaker 1: show up and do like you're like, what are you 259 00:12:29,280 --> 00:12:31,000 Speaker 1: doing at the local news? And how did you end 260 00:12:31,120 --> 00:12:33,280 Speaker 1: up going there? So we had a program in our 261 00:12:33,320 --> 00:12:35,560 Speaker 1: high school that you could take a semester off and 262 00:12:35,679 --> 00:12:37,720 Speaker 1: kind of do like an internship if you were at 263 00:12:37,720 --> 00:12:39,360 Speaker 1: a good place with your grades and stuff like that. 264 00:12:39,600 --> 00:12:42,960 Speaker 1: Um and so I decided to uh oh they called 265 00:12:42,960 --> 00:12:45,559 Speaker 1: it a co op. So I decided to go. You 266 00:12:45,559 --> 00:12:49,320 Speaker 1: you'd have to go into school maybe like three times 267 00:12:49,320 --> 00:12:51,680 Speaker 1: a month, but I tell the semester off. Yeah, it 268 00:12:51,720 --> 00:12:54,120 Speaker 1: was amazing and you get like real experience, like some 269 00:12:54,160 --> 00:12:56,520 Speaker 1: people would go and work, um, like in the trades 270 00:12:56,559 --> 00:12:58,400 Speaker 1: and stuff like that, but it was this was this 271 00:12:58,440 --> 00:13:02,400 Speaker 1: one was available and so I applied for it, um 272 00:13:02,440 --> 00:13:05,400 Speaker 1: and uh I got it miraculously. And so I would 273 00:13:05,400 --> 00:13:07,520 Speaker 1: go in every single day. I would take my mom's 274 00:13:07,559 --> 00:13:09,840 Speaker 1: car and I would drive into work as like a 275 00:13:09,880 --> 00:13:14,520 Speaker 1: real reporter. And I was wearing like flax and like blazers, 276 00:13:14,640 --> 00:13:17,960 Speaker 1: and I was learning how to be a reporter everything 277 00:13:18,000 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: from like you know, gathering information and doing the investigative 278 00:13:21,760 --> 00:13:24,280 Speaker 1: part to the way that you make your voice sound 279 00:13:24,559 --> 00:13:28,360 Speaker 1: like a reporter and first local Rachel Bonetta on the scene, 280 00:13:28,400 --> 00:13:30,319 Speaker 1: Like it was ridiculous the things that they were teaching 281 00:13:30,320 --> 00:13:33,760 Speaker 1: me to do, which just seems so oh so cringing now, 282 00:13:33,960 --> 00:13:36,360 Speaker 1: but um, I was. I just went home actually a 283 00:13:36,400 --> 00:13:38,280 Speaker 1: couple of weeks ago, and I was looking through all 284 00:13:38,320 --> 00:13:41,439 Speaker 1: of my old tapes because I've kept everything, and it 285 00:13:41,520 --> 00:13:42,719 Speaker 1: was like, you can see it on my Instagram. I 286 00:13:42,760 --> 00:13:45,240 Speaker 1: posted when it was like sixteen year old me reporting 287 00:13:45,440 --> 00:13:48,880 Speaker 1: from like a fundraiser and like a school safety meeting, 288 00:13:48,960 --> 00:13:51,640 Speaker 1: and it was all very like, you know, youth reporting 289 00:13:51,720 --> 00:13:53,400 Speaker 1: kind of things. They weren't making me go and do 290 00:13:53,440 --> 00:13:56,840 Speaker 1: the hard hitting journalism, but that experience was like, Okay, 291 00:13:56,880 --> 00:13:59,400 Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna go to school for broadcast journalism now. 292 00:13:59,440 --> 00:14:01,400 Speaker 1: Like that just kind of landed in my lap. Part 293 00:14:01,400 --> 00:14:04,320 Speaker 1: of me probably wanted to not go to school and 294 00:14:04,520 --> 00:14:06,840 Speaker 1: go off and try and be like a somewhat of 295 00:14:06,880 --> 00:14:10,200 Speaker 1: a real adult, um, but it ended up kind of 296 00:14:10,200 --> 00:14:13,040 Speaker 1: working my favor. So did these things air on the 297 00:14:13,120 --> 00:14:18,040 Speaker 1: local news or you just did you were on you 298 00:14:18,040 --> 00:14:20,120 Speaker 1: were on local news as a sixteen year old. I 299 00:14:20,160 --> 00:14:22,320 Speaker 1: was on local news. I remember I would go to 300 00:14:22,520 --> 00:14:25,040 Speaker 1: work and I would film whatever I had to film. 301 00:14:25,080 --> 00:14:27,880 Speaker 1: I probably had like four four to five hits a 302 00:14:27,880 --> 00:14:30,640 Speaker 1: week of different stories. I would go to work, come back, 303 00:14:30,720 --> 00:14:33,680 Speaker 1: go to my boyfriend's house, and the whole family would 304 00:14:33,680 --> 00:14:37,120 Speaker 1: gather around and watch the local news until my my 305 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,880 Speaker 1: part came on. It was pretty insane. I was like 306 00:14:39,920 --> 00:14:43,640 Speaker 1: sixteen years old, So what what? I watched a couple 307 00:14:43,640 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: of these on your Instagram page and one of them 308 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:49,200 Speaker 1: was like you covered will Blockbuster survive? Right? Or like 309 00:14:49,280 --> 00:14:52,800 Speaker 1: Blockbuster was closing? How did you get these these ideas 310 00:14:52,840 --> 00:14:55,480 Speaker 1: for stories? Did they assign them to you? Did you 311 00:14:55,520 --> 00:14:57,680 Speaker 1: come up with it on your own? Yeah? Like I 312 00:14:57,680 --> 00:15:00,440 Speaker 1: would go out there was like like said, it was 313 00:15:00,480 --> 00:15:03,800 Speaker 1: pretty like loose the broad The Blockbuster thing was from college, 314 00:15:03,800 --> 00:15:06,920 Speaker 1: but all of the other ones were like, Okay, there's 315 00:15:07,080 --> 00:15:14,160 Speaker 1: um picnic benefiting the local animal shelter on Tuesday. Um, 316 00:15:14,240 --> 00:15:16,280 Speaker 1: why don't we send Rachel and a cameraman to that? 317 00:15:16,360 --> 00:15:18,080 Speaker 1: And that's all they gave me. And I would actually 318 00:15:18,160 --> 00:15:20,400 Speaker 1: go and interview all the people that I would have 319 00:15:20,440 --> 00:15:22,760 Speaker 1: to interview and do my research and and you know, 320 00:15:22,800 --> 00:15:24,320 Speaker 1: write everything down and then I would have to do 321 00:15:24,360 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 1: all my stand up so it's like being in front 322 00:15:26,040 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: of a camera holding a mic, being like doing like 323 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:30,320 Speaker 1: the open and the and the clothes for like a 324 00:15:30,360 --> 00:15:33,760 Speaker 1: one minute peace. Um, and I learned. I learned so much. 325 00:15:33,800 --> 00:15:36,520 Speaker 1: So even going into college, I was just like, screw 326 00:15:36,600 --> 00:15:39,800 Speaker 1: you guys. I was on first local like getting line baby, 327 00:15:39,840 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: I'm number one. So wait, so you had an adult 328 00:15:43,200 --> 00:15:45,320 Speaker 1: cameraman who would be assigned to you, and like you 329 00:15:45,320 --> 00:15:49,480 Speaker 1: guys would drive around all over town to do local stories. Yes, yes, 330 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:51,400 Speaker 1: and I took the school. I was able to do 331 00:15:51,640 --> 00:15:54,640 Speaker 1: like a full full credits like I didn't have to 332 00:15:54,720 --> 00:15:56,680 Speaker 1: spend any extra time in high school, like this was 333 00:15:56,840 --> 00:16:00,920 Speaker 1: something that are are are just our school promoted they 334 00:16:00,960 --> 00:16:03,000 Speaker 1: Still that seems crazy to me that a sixteen year 335 00:16:03,040 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: old could be on local news. How many people would 336 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,640 Speaker 1: watch this local news broadcast, Like oh, I can't imagine 337 00:16:07,720 --> 00:16:10,600 Speaker 1: very well. We would have people like email in about 338 00:16:10,680 --> 00:16:14,720 Speaker 1: like oh I hated Jones tied tonight, you better pick 339 00:16:14,800 --> 00:16:16,480 Speaker 1: up overalls and I'm not going to watch again. Like 340 00:16:16,560 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: it was there was some. There was some I was 341 00:16:19,400 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: like never recognized or anything like that, Like it was 342 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:25,600 Speaker 1: not that many people tuning in, but for it was like, um, 343 00:16:25,840 --> 00:16:28,880 Speaker 1: that's a huge deal for a sixteen year old. Oh. Absolutely, 344 00:16:28,920 --> 00:16:31,240 Speaker 1: the cultination of a bunch of different small towns and 345 00:16:31,280 --> 00:16:34,760 Speaker 1: small cities. Um, because the first local was kind of 346 00:16:34,800 --> 00:16:38,280 Speaker 1: like overseeing a big area and it was the local news, 347 00:16:38,320 --> 00:16:40,560 Speaker 1: so it was like Channel six a lot of people watch. 348 00:16:41,120 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: So your mom had to be really impressed by that, right, Um. Yeah, 349 00:16:44,960 --> 00:16:46,440 Speaker 1: I think that might say, I'm sure we'll get into this. 350 00:16:46,480 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: My family was going through some stuff when that was happening. 351 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,000 Speaker 1: My dad was really sick. So as much as they 352 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,280 Speaker 1: were like proud of what I was doing, I wasn't 353 00:16:53,320 --> 00:16:55,360 Speaker 1: really the center of attention at the time. I think 354 00:16:55,360 --> 00:16:59,640 Speaker 1: that looking back now, even even myself, I'm like, holy crap, 355 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:03,680 Speaker 1: why doing that at sixteens. As I'm telling this story again, 356 00:17:03,680 --> 00:17:07,399 Speaker 1: I haven't talked about it really one time. It sounds insane. Um. 357 00:17:07,520 --> 00:17:10,960 Speaker 1: But yeah, she she was. She was super super proud, 358 00:17:11,040 --> 00:17:14,160 Speaker 1: for sure. So you mentioned what your family was going 359 00:17:14,200 --> 00:17:17,160 Speaker 1: through around the time that you're doing that. So what 360 00:17:17,200 --> 00:17:21,240 Speaker 1: were you dealing with in your family at the time. Well, 361 00:17:21,240 --> 00:17:24,360 Speaker 1: when I was about, um, I want to say, like 362 00:17:24,440 --> 00:17:30,400 Speaker 1: eight or nine, my dad started to just be really weird. Um. 363 00:17:30,480 --> 00:17:33,560 Speaker 1: And and I was so young at that point, I 364 00:17:33,640 --> 00:17:36,919 Speaker 1: had no idea what was going on. Um, but he 365 00:17:37,080 --> 00:17:41,399 Speaker 1: just started acting not himself. And he's like, you know, 366 00:17:41,480 --> 00:17:46,600 Speaker 1: he's a really early like typical Canadian lumberjack as you 367 00:17:46,600 --> 00:17:48,840 Speaker 1: would see it. Like he was a hunter, and he 368 00:17:48,920 --> 00:17:51,520 Speaker 1: drove transport trucks and he took care of our family. 369 00:17:51,640 --> 00:17:54,520 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, he was like not feeling well, 370 00:17:54,560 --> 00:17:58,640 Speaker 1: and um, you know, have having trouble walking and all 371 00:17:58,680 --> 00:18:01,280 Speaker 1: this stuff, and and I had no idea what was happening. 372 00:18:01,280 --> 00:18:04,040 Speaker 1: And I remember being called into my school and in 373 00:18:04,119 --> 00:18:07,480 Speaker 1: my principal's office and her saying, you know, we just 374 00:18:07,520 --> 00:18:09,359 Speaker 1: want to let you know if you're ever feeling that 375 00:18:09,440 --> 00:18:11,439 Speaker 1: you're going through a tough time, like you can always 376 00:18:11,440 --> 00:18:13,280 Speaker 1: come and talk to us. And I was just so confused, 377 00:18:13,440 --> 00:18:16,840 Speaker 1: just like okay, like whatever, I'm gonna go back to 378 00:18:16,880 --> 00:18:21,040 Speaker 1: class now, Like it's just weird. Um. And then my 379 00:18:21,040 --> 00:18:25,720 Speaker 1: my dad's like physical appearance started to diminish more and more. 380 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,920 Speaker 1: And then it was that he ended up in the hospital. 381 00:18:28,119 --> 00:18:30,320 Speaker 1: And and again like I was so young, so my 382 00:18:30,320 --> 00:18:32,280 Speaker 1: mom was probably shielding me from a lot of stuff. 383 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:35,480 Speaker 1: But it ended up that he had this really rare 384 00:18:35,480 --> 00:18:39,720 Speaker 1: blood disease called amiladosis. And it took them years to 385 00:18:39,760 --> 00:18:42,160 Speaker 1: even identify what it was because it is so rare. 386 00:18:42,200 --> 00:18:45,360 Speaker 1: It's like one and a billion people get this random disease. 387 00:18:45,359 --> 00:18:46,919 Speaker 1: And my mom was actually one of the ones that 388 00:18:47,000 --> 00:18:50,520 Speaker 1: helped diagnose it because she is like such a mom 389 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:53,480 Speaker 1: through and through and she was like going through notes 390 00:18:53,480 --> 00:18:56,240 Speaker 1: and notes and notes and looking at the symptoms and 391 00:18:56,240 --> 00:18:58,120 Speaker 1: and all of this stuff, and she was the one 392 00:18:58,160 --> 00:19:00,399 Speaker 1: that was just like, well, what about this? And then 393 00:19:00,440 --> 00:19:02,879 Speaker 1: they tested him for it and it ended up being that. 394 00:19:03,160 --> 00:19:05,960 Speaker 1: But um, still like, not a lot of information is 395 00:19:06,000 --> 00:19:09,480 Speaker 1: out about this disease. And basically what happened over those 396 00:19:09,560 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: years is he started losing a ton of weight. Like 397 00:19:12,480 --> 00:19:15,240 Speaker 1: when I was in the tenth grade, my dad weighed 398 00:19:15,280 --> 00:19:18,040 Speaker 1: less than Iowa and I'm not, I'm like a pounds now. 399 00:19:19,359 --> 00:19:22,520 Speaker 1: So it was really it was really hard and um, 400 00:19:22,600 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: he was unable to walk. It affected his nervous system. 401 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:29,280 Speaker 1: Uh so his the nerves and his legs weren't, um, 402 00:19:29,359 --> 00:19:30,760 Speaker 1: you know, acting right. So he had to use a 403 00:19:30,800 --> 00:19:32,360 Speaker 1: walker in a wheelchair, and he was in and out 404 00:19:32,359 --> 00:19:34,879 Speaker 1: of the hospital and they they it's not a treatable disease, 405 00:19:35,000 --> 00:19:37,960 Speaker 1: is a terminal illness, so they were testing him like 406 00:19:37,960 --> 00:19:40,199 Speaker 1: a guinea pig. They gave him chemotherapy, he lost all 407 00:19:40,240 --> 00:19:42,280 Speaker 1: of his hair. They gave him stem cell transplants, which 408 00:19:42,320 --> 00:19:44,360 Speaker 1: is like the huge as needles they put in your back, 409 00:19:44,400 --> 00:19:46,800 Speaker 1: and it was all very painful, and it was all 410 00:19:46,840 --> 00:19:49,800 Speaker 1: just for him to feel better for a couple of years, 411 00:19:49,800 --> 00:19:52,040 Speaker 1: and then he would end up going back, and then 412 00:19:52,359 --> 00:19:53,879 Speaker 1: he would try something new, and then he ended up 413 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,640 Speaker 1: going back, and so it was really really hard um 414 00:19:57,760 --> 00:19:59,640 Speaker 1: to deal with us, and and it was so long, 415 00:19:59,680 --> 00:20:01,960 Speaker 1: and it lasted for eight years, so it was a 416 00:20:02,080 --> 00:20:05,000 Speaker 1: really it took up a really big part of my life, 417 00:20:05,040 --> 00:20:07,600 Speaker 1: and I had to grow up really really quickly. And 418 00:20:07,760 --> 00:20:09,720 Speaker 1: my brothers weren't around because they are so much older. 419 00:20:09,720 --> 00:20:10,919 Speaker 1: By the time I was in high school, they were 420 00:20:10,960 --> 00:20:13,040 Speaker 1: in college, they were living in different provinces, they were 421 00:20:13,080 --> 00:20:15,560 Speaker 1: all over the place. So it was really just like 422 00:20:15,600 --> 00:20:17,360 Speaker 1: me and my mom and my dad, and I was like, 423 00:20:17,680 --> 00:20:20,399 Speaker 1: I felt like I was like walking home to a 424 00:20:20,520 --> 00:20:23,639 Speaker 1: very hellish state every single day, and I just wanted 425 00:20:23,680 --> 00:20:26,800 Speaker 1: to I wanted to run away, and I didn't want 426 00:20:26,800 --> 00:20:31,520 Speaker 1: to be in that situation. And it was impossible to 427 00:20:31,560 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: connect with my dad because I was scared even looking 428 00:20:33,960 --> 00:20:36,080 Speaker 1: at him. What do you look like? And it was 429 00:20:36,119 --> 00:20:38,680 Speaker 1: really hard. It was really hard for a really long time. 430 00:20:38,760 --> 00:20:40,520 Speaker 1: So that's kind of what we were dealing with. And 431 00:20:40,560 --> 00:20:43,360 Speaker 1: that was tough for my mom also too. Like I said, 432 00:20:43,400 --> 00:20:47,720 Speaker 1: she's such a caregiver and her husband the love of 433 00:20:47,720 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: her life. They had such an amazing I'm so thankful 434 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,040 Speaker 1: that my parents had an incredible relationship. They were married 435 00:20:52,080 --> 00:20:54,879 Speaker 1: for like thirty one years, um, and you know that 436 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:57,120 Speaker 1: was like her first priority. So you know, you also 437 00:20:57,160 --> 00:21:01,560 Speaker 1: have this like blossoming young daughter who's trying to pursue 438 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:04,280 Speaker 1: all of these things, but you know, your first priority 439 00:21:04,320 --> 00:21:06,080 Speaker 1: is going to be making sure that your husband can 440 00:21:06,119 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: get up and walk down the stairs because he couldn't 441 00:21:08,359 --> 00:21:11,520 Speaker 1: do that by himself. So it was a lot, it was. 442 00:21:11,880 --> 00:21:15,680 Speaker 1: It was a tough few years, sir. So from Mike 443 00:21:15,720 --> 00:21:18,440 Speaker 1: eight to sixteen, this is when this is going on. Yeah, 444 00:21:18,520 --> 00:21:23,120 Speaker 1: he passed away, she thought the way when I was seventeen, Um, 445 00:21:23,160 --> 00:21:27,280 Speaker 1: I graduated high school in June or whatever, and he 446 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:31,920 Speaker 1: passed away that February, right before, right before you graduated. 447 00:21:31,960 --> 00:21:35,840 Speaker 1: So I mean a part of this is you probably 448 00:21:36,000 --> 00:21:37,600 Speaker 1: I don't know if you even like sit around and 449 00:21:37,640 --> 00:21:40,960 Speaker 1: try to psychoanalyze yourself a lot. But if you're sixteen 450 00:21:41,000 --> 00:21:43,200 Speaker 1: and you're so driven to grow up that you're doing 451 00:21:43,240 --> 00:21:47,199 Speaker 1: these reporting assignments, I mean, is that partly like you 452 00:21:47,240 --> 00:21:50,159 Speaker 1: were just ready to be off on your own because 453 00:21:50,280 --> 00:21:52,840 Speaker 1: in some way you had to kind of raise yourself, 454 00:21:52,960 --> 00:21:55,159 Speaker 1: right because your mom has to focus so much on 455 00:21:55,200 --> 00:21:57,920 Speaker 1: your dad. Yeah, no, absolutely, I talked about this in 456 00:21:57,960 --> 00:22:01,959 Speaker 1: therapy every week, but um, yeah, it's it's exactly that. 457 00:22:02,000 --> 00:22:05,800 Speaker 1: And it's, um there's like a fear as well, like 458 00:22:05,880 --> 00:22:08,919 Speaker 1: going home. I when it was just my dad and I, 459 00:22:09,000 --> 00:22:10,680 Speaker 1: like sometimes I'd be sitting in the living room and 460 00:22:10,680 --> 00:22:13,200 Speaker 1: I would here like a crash, and it was because 461 00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,480 Speaker 1: like my full grown father has fallen to the ground 462 00:22:15,480 --> 00:22:17,439 Speaker 1: and there's like a fifteen year old I have to 463 00:22:17,440 --> 00:22:20,280 Speaker 1: now pick up his like deadweight body and bring him 464 00:22:20,280 --> 00:22:22,119 Speaker 1: into the living room. Somebody can sit like that's not 465 00:22:22,160 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: only embarrassing for him and hard for him to deal with, 466 00:22:25,359 --> 00:22:28,080 Speaker 1: it's like, oh my god, I can't profess this, Like 467 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,440 Speaker 1: what is this? And so I was constantly I never 468 00:22:31,520 --> 00:22:34,080 Speaker 1: ran away, per se, but I was always running away. 469 00:22:34,119 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: I was always trying to get out of that house. 470 00:22:36,600 --> 00:22:39,000 Speaker 1: I moved away as much as I wanted to support 471 00:22:39,000 --> 00:22:41,120 Speaker 1: my mom and stay home for even like a semester. 472 00:22:41,800 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 1: I went away to college as fast as I can 473 00:22:43,840 --> 00:22:45,520 Speaker 1: and and I was like always out of the house, 474 00:22:45,520 --> 00:22:49,680 Speaker 1: always at my boyfriend's house, who was like a disaster um. 475 00:22:49,880 --> 00:22:52,520 Speaker 1: And it was yeah, it was really it was a 476 00:22:52,560 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: really dark place. Home. Home's was a really dark place 477 00:22:57,240 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 1: for me the first eight years, not right when everything 478 00:23:00,680 --> 00:23:02,719 Speaker 1: before he got sick, and then it's like just all 479 00:23:02,720 --> 00:23:04,760 Speaker 1: of a sudden, the chapter changes in your life is 480 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:07,960 Speaker 1: completely altered. Yeah, I mean the first eight years. I 481 00:23:08,000 --> 00:23:12,080 Speaker 1: think that that's why I am, you know. I feel 482 00:23:12,080 --> 00:23:13,920 Speaker 1: like there's this big goofy side to me, and I 483 00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,280 Speaker 1: feel like that comes from early on, like the first 484 00:23:17,040 --> 00:23:19,879 Speaker 1: eight years when I had like free range on creativity 485 00:23:19,960 --> 00:23:21,960 Speaker 1: and I had a great relationship with my parents, and 486 00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:24,679 Speaker 1: my parents had a great relationship, and my brothers and 487 00:23:24,680 --> 00:23:27,320 Speaker 1: I were always like goofing and laughing, and they introduced 488 00:23:27,320 --> 00:23:30,399 Speaker 1: me to comedy and and then I feel like around 489 00:23:30,440 --> 00:23:35,400 Speaker 1: like nine, that's when that joyful side just like culpit 490 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,679 Speaker 1: and stopped. And I feel like a big part of 491 00:23:38,720 --> 00:23:41,000 Speaker 1: my life now is like trying to get that back 492 00:23:41,040 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: and and trying to really live in this like fun 493 00:23:44,080 --> 00:23:46,679 Speaker 1: space because I love that that, like we always talk 494 00:23:46,720 --> 00:23:48,679 Speaker 1: about in therapy, not to get too deep into this, 495 00:23:48,760 --> 00:23:53,200 Speaker 1: like but that, um my my kids like kid Rachel, Um, 496 00:23:53,240 --> 00:23:55,040 Speaker 1: you know, she needs to be taken care of because 497 00:23:55,640 --> 00:23:58,880 Speaker 1: around like eight or nine, she stopped having people look 498 00:23:59,160 --> 00:24:01,080 Speaker 1: looking out for her. She was looking out for herself 499 00:24:01,080 --> 00:24:05,800 Speaker 1: because everyone else was focused on my father and so, um, yeah, 500 00:24:05,800 --> 00:24:07,480 Speaker 1: it's a lots. It's a lot to deal with for 501 00:24:07,600 --> 00:24:10,240 Speaker 1: a really young kid. I didn't even know it, Like 502 00:24:10,240 --> 00:24:14,320 Speaker 1: I said, my mom couldn't even explain to me what 503 00:24:14,400 --> 00:24:17,439 Speaker 1: was happening at this point in my life because it's like, 504 00:24:17,480 --> 00:24:20,159 Speaker 1: how do we even tell how old are your kids? Clay, Like, 505 00:24:20,200 --> 00:24:22,240 Speaker 1: imagine telling them no. I mean that's what I'm thinking 506 00:24:22,240 --> 00:24:24,320 Speaker 1: about now. I've got eleven and eight and a four 507 00:24:24,400 --> 00:24:27,680 Speaker 1: year old, and so they've had explained to them totally 508 00:24:27,840 --> 00:24:31,600 Speaker 1: idyllic existence right now, and if if something like that happened, 509 00:24:31,640 --> 00:24:33,800 Speaker 1: it would be like they would be, you know, almost 510 00:24:33,800 --> 00:24:36,920 Speaker 1: full pedaling into a wall, right like everything is perfect 511 00:24:36,960 --> 00:24:39,920 Speaker 1: and then it's like a line of demarcation and everything 512 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:41,600 Speaker 1: changes in their life. And I think there's probably a 513 00:24:41,640 --> 00:24:44,280 Speaker 1: lot of people out there listening right now who maybe 514 00:24:44,280 --> 00:24:46,560 Speaker 1: not have had as serious of an incident as you have, 515 00:24:46,760 --> 00:24:48,919 Speaker 1: but they can go to a point in their life 516 00:24:49,320 --> 00:24:53,400 Speaker 1: and be like this changed everything, right and and whatever 517 00:24:53,440 --> 00:24:57,000 Speaker 1: else comes afterwards, I can't get over what might have 518 00:24:57,080 --> 00:24:59,560 Speaker 1: happened at this age. By the way, you're listening to 519 00:24:59,600 --> 00:25:02,160 Speaker 1: Winds and Losses. I'm Clay Travis. We're talking with Rachel 520 00:25:02,160 --> 00:25:06,280 Speaker 1: Bonetta and so you you you're doing this thing at 521 00:25:06,320 --> 00:25:09,000 Speaker 1: sixteen years old. You're doing local news and and it's 522 00:25:09,040 --> 00:25:12,720 Speaker 1: interesting because you have a and I'm sure people here 523 00:25:12,760 --> 00:25:14,919 Speaker 1: as this goes on, if they watched the show, certainly 524 00:25:14,960 --> 00:25:18,720 Speaker 1: you know this. You have a really great sense of humor. 525 00:25:19,160 --> 00:25:21,040 Speaker 1: But a part of that a lot of times comedians 526 00:25:21,080 --> 00:25:23,639 Speaker 1: have great sense as a humor because it's a coping mechanism, right, 527 00:25:23,680 --> 00:25:27,640 Speaker 1: I mean, otherwise you just kind of wallow in, uh 528 00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,080 Speaker 1: in the things that are bad in your life, and 529 00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,520 Speaker 1: that's a way to escape the darkness, right, um. And 530 00:25:33,520 --> 00:25:36,200 Speaker 1: and I think the humor that you have, whether it's 531 00:25:36,200 --> 00:25:40,160 Speaker 1: on Instagram or on social media are certainly on our 532 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:44,280 Speaker 1: show comes through a lot, but it's almost like a 533 00:25:44,320 --> 00:25:46,480 Speaker 1: self defense mechanism in some ways. Not to mean that 534 00:25:46,720 --> 00:25:48,720 Speaker 1: you're not funny, but it's it's interesting where that comes 535 00:25:48,720 --> 00:25:51,480 Speaker 1: from Yeah, no, for sure. I mean my dad was 536 00:25:51,520 --> 00:25:54,199 Speaker 1: a very quick like honestly, and I think that a 537 00:25:54,200 --> 00:25:57,040 Speaker 1: lot of times he was always trying to lighten the 538 00:25:57,040 --> 00:25:59,240 Speaker 1: mood because he was sick and all of us, like 539 00:25:59,280 --> 00:26:01,840 Speaker 1: he probably felt from his daughter like, Oh, she's afraid 540 00:26:01,880 --> 00:26:03,960 Speaker 1: of me now because she's afraid of losing me. So 541 00:26:04,000 --> 00:26:06,679 Speaker 1: she's gonna push me as far as she can away 542 00:26:06,720 --> 00:26:08,880 Speaker 1: because she doesn't want to get hurt. And so his 543 00:26:09,280 --> 00:26:11,520 Speaker 1: way of cracking the ice with me was being funny 544 00:26:11,600 --> 00:26:14,040 Speaker 1: and like watching funny things in same with my brothers, 545 00:26:14,080 --> 00:26:17,000 Speaker 1: like I was introduced to like sn L and SETV 546 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: and mad TV and in Living color, all of those 547 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,680 Speaker 1: things when I was really young, because it was so 548 00:26:23,800 --> 00:26:26,960 Speaker 1: depressing in our household that what we watched at night 549 00:26:27,040 --> 00:26:29,479 Speaker 1: had to be something that made us laugh. And so 550 00:26:29,600 --> 00:26:31,560 Speaker 1: I'm thankful that I grew up in a in a 551 00:26:31,640 --> 00:26:33,480 Speaker 1: family that had a sense of humor and was able 552 00:26:33,520 --> 00:26:35,199 Speaker 1: to laugh about some stuff. Like my dad would make 553 00:26:35,240 --> 00:26:37,119 Speaker 1: jokes when he was bald and like had peach fuzz 554 00:26:37,160 --> 00:26:40,880 Speaker 1: and um, you know, he he was ridiculous and super goofy, 555 00:26:40,920 --> 00:26:43,640 Speaker 1: and I will hold those memories super close to my heart. 556 00:26:43,680 --> 00:26:45,720 Speaker 1: But um, that was definitely a way to all of it. 557 00:26:45,800 --> 00:26:47,639 Speaker 1: It wasn't just me. All of us were trying to 558 00:26:47,680 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: cope with this through our sense of humor because that 559 00:26:50,400 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: was literally the only way that we could keep breathing. 560 00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:58,040 Speaker 1: So sixteen year old Rachel is a local news star, Um, 561 00:26:58,080 --> 00:27:00,920 Speaker 1: you're dealing with your dad. You said, I don't even 562 00:27:00,920 --> 00:27:02,680 Speaker 1: know if your your boyfriend might listen to this. He 563 00:27:02,720 --> 00:27:05,080 Speaker 1: probably doesn't want to hear it because you probably that 564 00:27:05,160 --> 00:27:07,080 Speaker 1: you never had a boyfriend before. But you said you 565 00:27:07,119 --> 00:27:10,159 Speaker 1: had an awful high school boyfriend. Oh. Yeah, he was 566 00:27:10,200 --> 00:27:12,000 Speaker 1: a jerk. He was a jerk. I didd him for 567 00:27:12,040 --> 00:27:14,720 Speaker 1: like five years to five years of a long time 568 00:27:14,760 --> 00:27:18,000 Speaker 1: in high school. So what initially attracted you to him? Oh, 569 00:27:18,560 --> 00:27:21,040 Speaker 1: I don't know. You have like a shaved head. He 570 00:27:21,160 --> 00:27:24,199 Speaker 1: was a skateboarder. That's why I was really into skateboarders 571 00:27:24,240 --> 00:27:25,879 Speaker 1: at the time. But I started dating him like the 572 00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,000 Speaker 1: end of my Our junior high was right next to 573 00:27:29,040 --> 00:27:30,600 Speaker 1: our high school, and still there was probably only a 574 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:34,120 Speaker 1: total of like five hundred people, um combined with all 575 00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: of those grades. So it was partly because there was 576 00:27:36,560 --> 00:27:39,879 Speaker 1: nobody else. But I met him at like the end 577 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:41,359 Speaker 1: of the eighth grade and I broke up with him. 578 00:27:41,400 --> 00:27:43,280 Speaker 1: As soon as I went to college, I was like, later, 579 00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:46,760 Speaker 1: so what does he do now? I have no idea 580 00:27:46,840 --> 00:27:50,239 Speaker 1: and I do not want to know. So legitimately you 581 00:27:50,240 --> 00:27:53,080 Speaker 1: have no idea, like he hasn't tracked, have no idea. No, no, 582 00:27:53,240 --> 00:27:55,040 Speaker 1: I think that once. Once I got to college, I 583 00:27:55,080 --> 00:27:56,800 Speaker 1: was like, oh my god, I gos a jerk. Like, 584 00:27:57,880 --> 00:28:00,880 Speaker 1: for instance, I'll give you a little glimpse in our relationship, 585 00:28:01,400 --> 00:28:05,880 Speaker 1: um my twelfth grade. Um, you know, it was really 586 00:28:05,920 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: just like a waiting game when my dad he was 587 00:28:07,520 --> 00:28:11,040 Speaker 1: not doing well. This was probably in November. The doctors 588 00:28:11,040 --> 00:28:13,080 Speaker 1: told us that my dad had until Christmas to live. 589 00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,760 Speaker 1: Basically what a date, right, Oh yeah, celebrate Christmas as 590 00:28:16,800 --> 00:28:19,200 Speaker 1: your dad? And I like the next day. Um, and 591 00:28:19,240 --> 00:28:23,439 Speaker 1: so I found out in November my boyfriend broke up 592 00:28:23,440 --> 00:28:26,320 Speaker 1: with me. And I was devastated because literally going through 593 00:28:26,359 --> 00:28:28,520 Speaker 1: the worst time in my life. Now, I've lost the 594 00:28:28,520 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: only person that I can really you know, he's like 595 00:28:31,080 --> 00:28:34,320 Speaker 1: my number one shoulder to cry on. He broke up 596 00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,280 Speaker 1: with me the next day. He's love with my best 597 00:28:37,280 --> 00:28:40,600 Speaker 1: friend and all of this stuff is going on, and 598 00:28:40,640 --> 00:28:44,920 Speaker 1: so I was just like, uh, you know, I stupidly. 599 00:28:45,000 --> 00:28:46,520 Speaker 1: Why am I telling you this stuff? For the first place, 600 00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:50,000 Speaker 1: I got back together with him after my dad passed away, 601 00:28:50,480 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: and then it literally as soon as I left for college, 602 00:28:52,840 --> 00:28:54,720 Speaker 1: I was just like, get this guy into my life. 603 00:28:54,760 --> 00:28:58,320 Speaker 1: I'm so much better off. So yeah, like high school, 604 00:28:58,400 --> 00:29:00,560 Speaker 1: Rachel was all over the place. She was mess. You 605 00:29:00,560 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: did not know how to function. The only thing that 606 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,360 Speaker 1: she was like worried about with school and her career, 607 00:29:05,600 --> 00:29:09,520 Speaker 1: which is like kind of still the same. Um, But uh, yeah, 608 00:29:09,600 --> 00:29:12,480 Speaker 1: I was going through it. I think about that Rachel now, 609 00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,640 Speaker 1: and I couldn't make me cry sometimes because I was 610 00:29:15,720 --> 00:29:18,600 Speaker 1: really being put through the ringer And what you wish 611 00:29:18,680 --> 00:29:20,440 Speaker 1: what do you wish you you could go back in 612 00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,040 Speaker 1: time and tell yourself when you were in high school. 613 00:29:27,360 --> 00:29:29,600 Speaker 1: I don't know, but everything's gonna be okay, I guess. 614 00:29:29,640 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: But I always had the sense that it was going 615 00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:33,400 Speaker 1: to be all right. Like I do think I deal 616 00:29:33,440 --> 00:29:37,240 Speaker 1: with trauma pretty fairly well, whether it's like you know, uh, 617 00:29:37,600 --> 00:29:40,160 Speaker 1: somebody passing away or like me losing my passport in 618 00:29:40,160 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: a foreign country. Like I'm very I'm a very good 619 00:29:42,120 --> 00:29:46,000 Speaker 1: problem solver. Um. But I think that there's always been 620 00:29:46,000 --> 00:29:49,840 Speaker 1: the fear of I will say this, Ever since my 621 00:29:49,880 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: dad passed away, and even before that, there's I've I've 622 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:56,360 Speaker 1: had an irrational fear of people leaving me and death 623 00:29:56,480 --> 00:29:58,400 Speaker 1: and and losing people. Whether I can deal with it 624 00:29:58,520 --> 00:30:00,840 Speaker 1: or not, just the fear of it happening absolutely terrifies me. 625 00:30:00,880 --> 00:30:03,520 Speaker 1: So just like letting myself know when it comes to that, 626 00:30:03,760 --> 00:30:06,520 Speaker 1: like I'm I'm okay, I'm gonna be okay, and I'm 627 00:30:06,520 --> 00:30:09,360 Speaker 1: gonna get through this and at least I'm gonna live. 628 00:30:09,480 --> 00:30:11,800 Speaker 1: We know that I don't even know that it's in 629 00:30:11,840 --> 00:30:14,240 Speaker 1: a rational fear based on what you've been through, uh 630 00:30:14,440 --> 00:30:17,960 Speaker 1: I know. Be sure to catch live editions about Kicked 631 00:30:18,000 --> 00:30:21,120 Speaker 1: the Coverage with Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern, 632 00:30:21,200 --> 00:30:24,800 Speaker 1: three am Pacific, talking to Rachel Bannetta wins and Lost 633 00:30:24,840 --> 00:30:27,120 Speaker 1: his podcast I'm Clay Travis. You can follow Rachel at 634 00:30:27,200 --> 00:30:29,200 Speaker 1: Rachel bannetto on Twitter. You can watch her every single 635 00:30:29,280 --> 00:30:32,720 Speaker 1: day on uh FS one Walk it In alongside of me, 636 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:35,160 Speaker 1: cousin sal and Todd Ferman. All right, so you go 637 00:30:35,280 --> 00:30:38,080 Speaker 1: off to college. You've probably given everything that you are 638 00:30:38,120 --> 00:30:41,040 Speaker 1: going through in high school, are desperate to go away 639 00:30:41,080 --> 00:30:43,120 Speaker 1: to college? Where do you go? How do you pick 640 00:30:43,160 --> 00:30:45,240 Speaker 1: it and what is your focus when you go away 641 00:30:45,280 --> 00:30:49,200 Speaker 1: to college. So I moved into the city. I moved 642 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:52,120 Speaker 1: into the city. I've got Toronto meeting meeting, the city 643 00:30:52,120 --> 00:30:55,240 Speaker 1: of Toronto, Yeah, the big city. I think two of 644 00:30:55,240 --> 00:30:56,800 Speaker 1: my brothers were living there at the time, so at 645 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,840 Speaker 1: least I had some kind of you know, safety with 646 00:31:00,040 --> 00:31:03,560 Speaker 1: having them somewhat close. But I decided that I wasn't 647 00:31:03,560 --> 00:31:06,520 Speaker 1: going to audition, uh to go to school for theater 648 00:31:06,680 --> 00:31:11,320 Speaker 1: because I was too scared. I think that, um, you know, 649 00:31:11,320 --> 00:31:13,120 Speaker 1: everything that had happened. I was just like, I just 650 00:31:13,160 --> 00:31:16,400 Speaker 1: want to go to school for something I know that 651 00:31:16,440 --> 00:31:18,200 Speaker 1: I can get into, for something that I know I'm 652 00:31:18,200 --> 00:31:19,960 Speaker 1: already good at, and for something that I know that 653 00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,960 Speaker 1: I'm slightly interested in. And at least, um, you know, 654 00:31:23,040 --> 00:31:25,960 Speaker 1: part of the school processes that I can take improv classes, 655 00:31:26,000 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: which was so exciting for me and I still take 656 00:31:27,880 --> 00:31:31,560 Speaker 1: those to this day. Um. So I applied for broadcast journalism. 657 00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:34,520 Speaker 1: I think I was a shoe in because, as you said, 658 00:31:34,520 --> 00:31:41,160 Speaker 1: I'm a sixteen year old television star at uh uh. Yeah. 659 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:42,920 Speaker 1: So I moved into the city. I moved out of 660 00:31:42,960 --> 00:31:47,320 Speaker 1: my house. My mom sold our house and moved into 661 00:31:47,400 --> 00:31:49,360 Speaker 1: like a really small house and like a small town 662 00:31:49,360 --> 00:31:53,760 Speaker 1: far away, further away from me. Um and uh, I 663 00:31:53,840 --> 00:31:57,080 Speaker 1: failed and I feeled hard. I was doing this talk 664 00:31:57,200 --> 00:31:58,920 Speaker 1: about mental health a couple of years ago for the 665 00:31:58,920 --> 00:32:01,800 Speaker 1: Big East, and there were it was like all coaches 666 00:32:02,080 --> 00:32:04,360 Speaker 1: that were in the room, and I was a volleyball player, 667 00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,160 Speaker 1: was a varsity volleyball player, and I brought in my 668 00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,800 Speaker 1: transcripts from my first semester of my first year, and 669 00:32:10,800 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: it was all like f f F d F c 670 00:32:13,240 --> 00:32:16,360 Speaker 1: f f F like failed, like literally everything I could 671 00:32:16,400 --> 00:32:19,760 Speaker 1: have failed, I failed pretty much. Um. And it was 672 00:32:20,080 --> 00:32:21,840 Speaker 1: I was telling these people because I was just like 673 00:32:21,920 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 1: I was depressed and anxious and going through the dealing 674 00:32:24,880 --> 00:32:28,720 Speaker 1: with the loss of my father and and those times 675 00:32:28,720 --> 00:32:30,560 Speaker 1: the coach, I'm seeing my coach more than I'm seeing 676 00:32:30,560 --> 00:32:33,160 Speaker 1: my teachers. Um. And so I was kind of saying 677 00:32:33,160 --> 00:32:34,680 Speaker 1: that like this is this was my story, and I 678 00:32:34,760 --> 00:32:36,760 Speaker 1: was telling them and oh my god, I just bombed 679 00:32:36,840 --> 00:32:40,520 Speaker 1: so bad because like my I was just going through 680 00:32:40,560 --> 00:32:45,000 Speaker 1: a world of pain and I forgot everything that I learned. Um, 681 00:32:45,040 --> 00:32:48,960 Speaker 1: you know at first local and it was a it 682 00:32:49,000 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: was tough, It was really tough. I thought about quitting. 683 00:32:52,400 --> 00:32:54,400 Speaker 1: I was just like I'm not I need to take 684 00:32:54,440 --> 00:32:56,400 Speaker 1: some time off, Like clearly my brain is not right. 685 00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:58,520 Speaker 1: I'm not in a right space to be learning and 686 00:32:58,560 --> 00:33:00,800 Speaker 1: to be caring about anything other than thinking about my 687 00:33:00,840 --> 00:33:04,400 Speaker 1: dad dying. Like it was rough. So you went to 688 00:33:04,520 --> 00:33:06,960 Speaker 1: class and you were making it like, I mean, how 689 00:33:06,960 --> 00:33:09,040 Speaker 1: how did you fail? Everything right? Because I mean I 690 00:33:09,040 --> 00:33:12,280 Speaker 1: would go into class, I was listening to the lecture, 691 00:33:12,440 --> 00:33:15,320 Speaker 1: I was being given the homework, and I was saying 692 00:33:15,400 --> 00:33:17,920 Speaker 1: f you, and I was gooding, And I would go 693 00:33:17,960 --> 00:33:21,600 Speaker 1: to volleyball practice and I'd go home, sleep, wake up 694 00:33:21,600 --> 00:33:23,080 Speaker 1: the next day to do it all over again. I 695 00:33:23,120 --> 00:33:25,680 Speaker 1: was not handing in any assignments. I was having trouble 696 00:33:25,720 --> 00:33:28,040 Speaker 1: going to class sometimes because I couldn't get out of bed. 697 00:33:28,480 --> 00:33:31,040 Speaker 1: This was like my first real bout with depression like 698 00:33:31,080 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: I had never really felt. Not only was I moving 699 00:33:33,960 --> 00:33:36,440 Speaker 1: away um from home and like what I know and 700 00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,080 Speaker 1: what I love, and I broke up with my boyfriend, 701 00:33:38,120 --> 00:33:40,040 Speaker 1: which is like, you know, any teenager is going to 702 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,520 Speaker 1: have a problem with that, and it's gonna like face 703 00:33:42,560 --> 00:33:44,960 Speaker 1: some kind of repercussion in their feelings and their emotions. 704 00:33:45,320 --> 00:33:48,600 Speaker 1: But also I just had like a catastrophic event happened 705 00:33:48,600 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 1: in my life. Um, and I just couldn't handle it. 706 00:33:51,440 --> 00:33:52,760 Speaker 1: I couldn't deal with it. So I would not get 707 00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:55,840 Speaker 1: into bed, I would not do my assignments. And it 708 00:33:55,920 --> 00:33:59,120 Speaker 1: showed so for a full year or a full semester, 709 00:33:59,520 --> 00:34:03,960 Speaker 1: just a full semester. After I got those the grades back. UM, 710 00:34:04,040 --> 00:34:06,280 Speaker 1: my volleyball coach threatened to kick me off the team. 711 00:34:06,400 --> 00:34:10,880 Speaker 1: UM My mom was very disappointed in me, and I 712 00:34:11,000 --> 00:34:14,319 Speaker 1: just snapped. I had this moment of being like you, 713 00:34:14,480 --> 00:34:16,480 Speaker 1: I had this really beautiful moment with my dad right 714 00:34:16,840 --> 00:34:19,239 Speaker 1: right before he passed away. I'm gonna try and get 715 00:34:19,239 --> 00:34:22,440 Speaker 1: through this. Um. And uh, you know, we we knew 716 00:34:22,440 --> 00:34:24,160 Speaker 1: about a week before he passed away. They pulled me 717 00:34:24,160 --> 00:34:26,279 Speaker 1: out of school and they brought my brothers home and 718 00:34:26,280 --> 00:34:27,839 Speaker 1: we're like, spend as much time as with your dad 719 00:34:27,840 --> 00:34:29,839 Speaker 1: as you can, because he's gonna be he's not gonna 720 00:34:29,840 --> 00:34:32,319 Speaker 1: make it pass this week. He's stopped eating, and so 721 00:34:32,400 --> 00:34:34,360 Speaker 1: all of us took turns going up into his bedroom. 722 00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:36,520 Speaker 1: He had like a hospital bed pulled into our house, 723 00:34:36,760 --> 00:34:41,080 Speaker 1: and um, when he was awake and around and you know, 724 00:34:41,160 --> 00:34:43,000 Speaker 1: with it, we would go up and we would have 725 00:34:43,040 --> 00:34:45,799 Speaker 1: conversations with him, and I got to tell him right 726 00:34:45,800 --> 00:34:48,560 Speaker 1: before he passed away, like a couple of days before that, 727 00:34:48,640 --> 00:34:51,480 Speaker 1: I was like, I'm gonna go and kick ass and 728 00:34:51,520 --> 00:34:53,520 Speaker 1: I'm inna I think also the first time that I 729 00:34:53,520 --> 00:34:55,000 Speaker 1: swore in front of my dad, I remember being like, 730 00:34:55,000 --> 00:34:56,319 Speaker 1: oh my god, I hope it's not gonna be mad 731 00:34:56,360 --> 00:34:58,879 Speaker 1: at me, but I'm gonna go kick ass, and I'm 732 00:34:58,880 --> 00:35:00,839 Speaker 1: gonna go make you so out, and I'm gonna take 733 00:35:00,880 --> 00:35:03,359 Speaker 1: care of mom. And I'm just gonna go and and 734 00:35:03,480 --> 00:35:05,200 Speaker 1: just kill it at school and I'm going to be 735 00:35:05,560 --> 00:35:08,560 Speaker 1: a star and and you don't have to worry about anything. 736 00:35:08,560 --> 00:35:10,920 Speaker 1: I'm gonna take care of everybody. From one of the 737 00:35:10,960 --> 00:35:12,760 Speaker 1: last things that you said to me ever, was seeing 738 00:35:12,800 --> 00:35:16,000 Speaker 1: the movie's kids, Well it makes me want to vomit. Um, 739 00:35:17,880 --> 00:35:21,560 Speaker 1: I know, right, sor right? But I had this moment 740 00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:24,360 Speaker 1: after that first semester that I was like, I have 741 00:35:24,560 --> 00:35:26,680 Speaker 1: not lived up to everything that I told my dad, 742 00:35:26,760 --> 00:35:28,440 Speaker 1: and he would be so disappointed in me. And I 743 00:35:28,480 --> 00:35:31,400 Speaker 1: think even my maybe somebody had said that, like, you know, 744 00:35:31,600 --> 00:35:33,279 Speaker 1: do this for your dad, and I was just like, 745 00:35:33,320 --> 00:35:37,520 Speaker 1: all right, screw this, buckled down started like caring so 746 00:35:37,600 --> 00:35:40,719 Speaker 1: much really put like literally great change from like f 747 00:35:40,800 --> 00:35:42,640 Speaker 1: T A S because I was I'm a smart person 748 00:35:42,680 --> 00:35:44,799 Speaker 1: and I'm creative, and that's exactly what all these things 749 00:35:44,800 --> 00:35:46,920 Speaker 1: we're calling for. It's like make a video, go and 750 00:35:46,920 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: do a documentary, be an improv class, like you know, 751 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:56,120 Speaker 1: go and cover Blockbuster, shutting down whatever it is, excuse um. 752 00:35:56,160 --> 00:35:57,920 Speaker 1: And uh I just snapped, and I was just like, 753 00:35:58,040 --> 00:36:01,080 Speaker 1: I this is my chance to prove myself and I 754 00:36:01,120 --> 00:36:03,160 Speaker 1: don't want to fail. And I'm not going back to Orn. No, 755 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:06,640 Speaker 1: good lord, I'm not going back to Orno. And uh 756 00:36:06,800 --> 00:36:09,240 Speaker 1: I just snapped. And I have not since that moment, 757 00:36:09,360 --> 00:36:12,719 Speaker 1: Since that semester, I have never looked back and have 758 00:36:12,840 --> 00:36:15,560 Speaker 1: just gone gung home with my career. And I think 759 00:36:15,560 --> 00:36:18,680 Speaker 1: that's a huge part of the reason why I'm twenty 760 00:36:18,680 --> 00:36:21,480 Speaker 1: seven and I'm hosting a show in Los Angeles, of 761 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:24,640 Speaker 1: all places, three thousand, five hundred miles away from where 762 00:36:24,640 --> 00:36:27,839 Speaker 1: I grew up, and I'm still like, not backing down, 763 00:36:27,920 --> 00:36:29,719 Speaker 1: still going full till all right. I want to go 764 00:36:29,760 --> 00:36:31,839 Speaker 1: back to that pivot point because there are a lot 765 00:36:31,880 --> 00:36:35,280 Speaker 1: of people who face challenges, and obviously for your age, 766 00:36:35,400 --> 00:36:40,080 Speaker 1: the challenges that you faced wor substantial, and is you 767 00:36:40,160 --> 00:36:43,280 Speaker 1: said that like you suddenly had this realization in your mind, 768 00:36:43,400 --> 00:36:46,160 Speaker 1: but you go home for Christmas. I'm assuming I don't 769 00:36:46,160 --> 00:36:49,200 Speaker 1: know exactly how the Canadian school schedule is, but you 770 00:36:49,520 --> 00:36:51,400 Speaker 1: have to show your mom the f's and the d's 771 00:36:51,480 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: that you have made. Where exactly do you make that 772 00:36:55,600 --> 00:36:58,080 Speaker 1: decision that things change for you? It's a pivot point. 773 00:36:58,120 --> 00:36:59,520 Speaker 1: Like you said, you could have ended up back in 774 00:36:59,680 --> 00:37:04,000 Speaker 1: Orno uh and uh and people like you're surrounded probably 775 00:37:04,000 --> 00:37:05,040 Speaker 1: by a lot of the people that you went to 776 00:37:05,120 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: high school with, and you're living a life where it's 777 00:37:08,080 --> 00:37:10,640 Speaker 1: it's kind of a quiet scream of anonymity, right Like 778 00:37:10,800 --> 00:37:13,759 Speaker 1: you're you're feeling like you didn't do what you wanted 779 00:37:13,800 --> 00:37:15,759 Speaker 1: to do. And look, I mean you're still young. I mean, 780 00:37:15,800 --> 00:37:17,840 Speaker 1: even if you had made that decision for a few years, 781 00:37:18,120 --> 00:37:20,400 Speaker 1: you could have still had a pivot point. But for you, 782 00:37:20,480 --> 00:37:23,560 Speaker 1: it happened at eighteen or nineteen years old. What do 783 00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:27,080 Speaker 1: you attribute that too to the mental toughness and the 784 00:37:27,160 --> 00:37:29,640 Speaker 1: ability to make that pivot, Because I feel like there's 785 00:37:29,640 --> 00:37:31,759 Speaker 1: a lot of people listening right now the podcast is 786 00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:33,880 Speaker 1: called Wins and Losses who get to that point and 787 00:37:33,920 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: it may not have as many significant factors that that 788 00:37:36,680 --> 00:37:39,439 Speaker 1: bring it to bear as yours did. But that they're 789 00:37:39,480 --> 00:37:42,000 Speaker 1: at a quarter life crisis or their midlife crisis or 790 00:37:42,000 --> 00:37:45,200 Speaker 1: whatever it is, and maybe they're younger and they might 791 00:37:45,239 --> 00:37:47,160 Speaker 1: not go in the direction that you did to pour 792 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:50,640 Speaker 1: positivity into the situation. What do you attribute to how 793 00:37:50,680 --> 00:37:55,880 Speaker 1: you were able to do it? Um, I think it 794 00:37:55,880 --> 00:37:58,080 Speaker 1: would be easy for somebody. Let let's say my dad 795 00:37:58,080 --> 00:37:59,960 Speaker 1: didn't pass away, and I went to school and I failed. 796 00:38:00,920 --> 00:38:03,960 Speaker 1: I think it'd be easy for me to be like, um, 797 00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:06,040 Speaker 1: is screw this, Like I'm not I'm just not cut 798 00:38:06,040 --> 00:38:07,520 Speaker 1: out for it. But I think that when you have 799 00:38:07,600 --> 00:38:11,520 Speaker 1: a parent pass away or something traumatic happening, you automatically 800 00:38:11,560 --> 00:38:15,879 Speaker 1: become a tougher person because you've been knocked down and 801 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:19,239 Speaker 1: you've in the process, you've just like grown this like 802 00:38:19,320 --> 00:38:23,040 Speaker 1: outer shield or whatever you want to call it, UM, 803 00:38:23,080 --> 00:38:25,480 Speaker 1: And nothing can hurt you as bad as that first 804 00:38:25,640 --> 00:38:28,680 Speaker 1: thing that happened to you that was traumatic. And I 805 00:38:28,680 --> 00:38:31,040 Speaker 1: don't know what it is. I always just call it snapping. 806 00:38:31,200 --> 00:38:34,359 Speaker 1: I just snapped, and I went home, and I saw 807 00:38:34,400 --> 00:38:38,799 Speaker 1: how disappointed my mom was, And UM, I know how 808 00:38:38,920 --> 00:38:41,920 Speaker 1: much she gave to my dad and to this family. 809 00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:45,279 Speaker 1: I know, like she took so much time off from work, 810 00:38:45,440 --> 00:38:49,480 Speaker 1: she was oh my god, probably in the deepest of depressions. 811 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: She actually just sent me a text with kissing emojis. 812 00:38:52,920 --> 00:38:55,439 Speaker 1: Isn't that weird? She literally just sent me that. That's 813 00:38:55,440 --> 00:38:58,640 Speaker 1: so strange. Um, But you know, she was just the 814 00:38:59,040 --> 00:39:01,520 Speaker 1: toughest of off. And I went home and I saw 815 00:39:01,520 --> 00:39:03,440 Speaker 1: how disappointed she was, and I think that she just 816 00:39:04,000 --> 00:39:06,799 Speaker 1: I was disappointed in the situation. No one did anything wrong. 817 00:39:06,880 --> 00:39:08,759 Speaker 1: My parents didn't treat me like ship like it was 818 00:39:08,800 --> 00:39:12,000 Speaker 1: just a shitty situation. And I think that part of 819 00:39:12,000 --> 00:39:14,960 Speaker 1: her was like, I'm so sorry that this has happened 820 00:39:15,000 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: to you. Like she was upset and disappointed, but I 821 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:20,680 Speaker 1: think also part of her was like, I'm just so 822 00:39:20,719 --> 00:39:22,680 Speaker 1: sorry that this is the life. These are the cards 823 00:39:22,680 --> 00:39:25,200 Speaker 1: that you've been dealt, and this is clearly affecting you. 824 00:39:25,280 --> 00:39:27,840 Speaker 1: And maybe I was hoping that it wouldn't affect you 825 00:39:27,920 --> 00:39:30,080 Speaker 1: as much as it as it is. And I just 826 00:39:30,160 --> 00:39:33,759 Speaker 1: remember seeing that face and how upset she was, and 827 00:39:33,800 --> 00:39:35,799 Speaker 1: I was just like, I cannot do this. My mom 828 00:39:35,800 --> 00:39:38,719 Speaker 1: has been through too much already. I need to be 829 00:39:38,760 --> 00:39:41,400 Speaker 1: the tough person that I am that my dad has 830 00:39:41,440 --> 00:39:43,400 Speaker 1: made me and my mom has made me, and I 831 00:39:43,440 --> 00:39:46,440 Speaker 1: need to I need to snap. I need to take 832 00:39:46,480 --> 00:39:48,000 Speaker 1: care of my mom like I promise. I need to 833 00:39:48,000 --> 00:39:49,640 Speaker 1: take care of my family like I promised. And this 834 00:39:49,800 --> 00:39:52,360 Speaker 1: is not taking care of This is adding more stress 835 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:55,839 Speaker 1: and more pain. And I've already felt the worst of it. 836 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,319 Speaker 1: I can be better and be stronger. And then I 837 00:39:58,360 --> 00:40:01,239 Speaker 1: just went back after Christmas or whatever it was Thanksgiving, 838 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:04,520 Speaker 1: and I just I woke up one day and was 839 00:40:04,560 --> 00:40:06,440 Speaker 1: just like re energized, and I thought about my mom 840 00:40:06,520 --> 00:40:08,520 Speaker 1: all the time, and I thought about how sad she was, 841 00:40:08,560 --> 00:40:10,560 Speaker 1: and I was just like, I am not contributing to that. 842 00:40:10,600 --> 00:40:13,279 Speaker 1: There's no chance that I am going to be part 843 00:40:13,320 --> 00:40:15,560 Speaker 1: of the reason that my mom is worse off than 844 00:40:15,600 --> 00:40:17,600 Speaker 1: losing her husband. Like, I'm not going to add to that. 845 00:40:18,120 --> 00:40:19,960 Speaker 1: And so she was a really big part of me 846 00:40:20,040 --> 00:40:24,080 Speaker 1: going back and just going like full till crazy. And 847 00:40:24,360 --> 00:40:28,440 Speaker 1: you are incredibly smart and incredibly talented. Uh, not that 848 00:40:28,480 --> 00:40:31,759 Speaker 1: you deserve compliments from me, but in that uh And 849 00:40:32,000 --> 00:40:33,319 Speaker 1: and I don't want you to get used to them, 850 00:40:33,360 --> 00:40:36,719 Speaker 1: but in that in that scenario, it's also interesting to 851 00:40:36,760 --> 00:40:41,320 Speaker 1: me because people sometimes have talents and they aren't willing 852 00:40:41,360 --> 00:40:44,080 Speaker 1: to acknowledge them themselves that they have them, and so 853 00:40:44,200 --> 00:40:46,200 Speaker 1: they can fall back on Oh, this is just not 854 00:40:46,320 --> 00:40:48,160 Speaker 1: for me. I'll go back to something that's safe. So 855 00:40:48,280 --> 00:40:50,960 Speaker 1: you pour yourself into it. You already knew that you 856 00:40:50,960 --> 00:40:53,520 Speaker 1: were driven in some sense at sixteen, when you're doing 857 00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:57,040 Speaker 1: these local television reports. Uh, and what are you doing? 858 00:40:57,239 --> 00:40:59,320 Speaker 1: And and how quickly does it? The pivot happens. You 859 00:40:59,360 --> 00:41:02,400 Speaker 1: start getting as are you doing more television? Are you 860 00:41:02,440 --> 00:41:05,120 Speaker 1: doing more? Like? What what exactly are you doing while 861 00:41:05,120 --> 00:41:09,600 Speaker 1: you're in school? Um? I started looking for internships, and 862 00:41:09,640 --> 00:41:11,640 Speaker 1: I started being like, I am really good in the field, 863 00:41:11,719 --> 00:41:14,160 Speaker 1: so I need to start looking at like the local 864 00:41:14,200 --> 00:41:17,400 Speaker 1: news stations or um. You know. I was just expanding 865 00:41:17,560 --> 00:41:19,759 Speaker 1: my mind. I was like, how can I get better 866 00:41:19,800 --> 00:41:21,640 Speaker 1: at this? How can I do? I want to start 867 00:41:21,640 --> 00:41:24,160 Speaker 1: branching out and do acting stuff like I was just 868 00:41:24,239 --> 00:41:26,560 Speaker 1: instead of like feeling sorry for myself all the time 869 00:41:26,640 --> 00:41:28,800 Speaker 1: and and thinking about other things that didn't matter or 870 00:41:28,840 --> 00:41:31,320 Speaker 1: didn't pertain to school, it was the complete opposite. I 871 00:41:31,400 --> 00:41:33,040 Speaker 1: was like, how do I be the best of the 872 00:41:33,080 --> 00:41:36,600 Speaker 1: best at this? UM? And I just poured all of that, 873 00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:40,120 Speaker 1: you know, sad energy that I did have into going 874 00:41:40,160 --> 00:41:42,600 Speaker 1: full throttle. So I did an internship with our local 875 00:41:42,600 --> 00:41:44,200 Speaker 1: news station that was in Toronto, which was like a 876 00:41:44,320 --> 00:41:46,160 Speaker 1: much bigger deal. I remember one of my first days 877 00:41:46,200 --> 00:41:49,239 Speaker 1: was like Osama bin Laden being shot and and and 878 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: assassinated or whatever happened. Um, and that was like the 879 00:41:51,960 --> 00:41:54,120 Speaker 1: first taste of like live news, and I was like, 880 00:41:54,160 --> 00:41:56,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, this is this isn't the Picnics that 881 00:41:56,960 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: I was covering. And on first local I was like 882 00:41:59,719 --> 00:42:02,560 Speaker 1: Allly moly, buckle up. Uh. And then for a really 883 00:42:02,600 --> 00:42:04,239 Speaker 1: long time I thought I wanted to do news, and 884 00:42:04,280 --> 00:42:07,400 Speaker 1: so I was like constantly trying to get in with 885 00:42:07,440 --> 00:42:09,680 Speaker 1: those spaces. Never once did I want to do sports. 886 00:42:09,960 --> 00:42:12,719 Speaker 1: I remember even at school we would have to like 887 00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:15,879 Speaker 1: sporting reports, and I was like, I hate this. I'm 888 00:42:15,880 --> 00:42:18,840 Speaker 1: not interested at all. I played the sports. I played volleyball. 889 00:42:18,880 --> 00:42:20,439 Speaker 1: I'm the athlete. I don't want to be talking about 890 00:42:20,480 --> 00:42:23,799 Speaker 1: other athletes. I just wasn't interested in whatsoever. So it's 891 00:42:23,880 --> 00:42:25,640 Speaker 1: hilarious what I've ended up doing with my life. But 892 00:42:26,560 --> 00:42:29,080 Speaker 1: um so yeah, I just like I just poured myself 893 00:42:29,080 --> 00:42:30,880 Speaker 1: in and I went I would stay up late, I 894 00:42:30,880 --> 00:42:33,520 Speaker 1: would be at school until you know they kicked me out, 895 00:42:33,680 --> 00:42:36,720 Speaker 1: editing pieces and and really branching out and just carrying 896 00:42:36,800 --> 00:42:40,440 Speaker 1: so much more. Really that wasn't were you good at volleyball? 897 00:42:40,480 --> 00:42:43,480 Speaker 1: By the way, I was excellent a volleyball. I didn't 898 00:42:43,480 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: have crazy hops, like I couldn't jump very so they 899 00:42:47,120 --> 00:42:48,799 Speaker 1: would oftentimes put me in the backup as like a 900 00:42:48,840 --> 00:42:52,279 Speaker 1: designated pass er. Um. But I was pretty good. Our 901 00:42:52,320 --> 00:42:55,920 Speaker 1: team wasn't great, But I played for thirteen years. Like 902 00:42:56,000 --> 00:42:57,600 Speaker 1: that was one thing that I kind of like after 903 00:42:57,680 --> 00:43:00,560 Speaker 1: I played hockey. U my mom was al players, so 904 00:43:00,600 --> 00:43:01,799 Speaker 1: she's like, why don't you try this? And so I 905 00:43:01,840 --> 00:43:05,040 Speaker 1: played rap like travel volleyball for thirteen years. It was insane. 906 00:43:05,760 --> 00:43:07,560 Speaker 1: I didn't even know there was travel volleyball. Is that 907 00:43:07,600 --> 00:43:10,120 Speaker 1: a Canadian thing? I think it might. Well, no, there's 908 00:43:10,120 --> 00:43:12,920 Speaker 1: a big amen travel volleyball in America. I don't know. 909 00:43:12,960 --> 00:43:15,120 Speaker 1: I've never even heard of anybody doing that. I'm sure 910 00:43:15,200 --> 00:43:17,400 Speaker 1: they do. Um, but there was like a lot of 911 00:43:17,400 --> 00:43:19,320 Speaker 1: girls in my high school were really into volleyball, and 912 00:43:19,560 --> 00:43:20,960 Speaker 1: I played when I was a junior. I played on 913 00:43:20,960 --> 00:43:25,120 Speaker 1: the senior team. That's how good I was. UM, And uh, yeah, 914 00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:26,879 Speaker 1: it was pretty competitive. It was fun. We were playing 915 00:43:26,960 --> 00:43:29,640 Speaker 1: tournaments like every weekend, all right, So you at that 916 00:43:29,680 --> 00:43:33,200 Speaker 1: point then have decided you've come through, Uh, the challenge 917 00:43:33,480 --> 00:43:36,759 Speaker 1: of finding motivation and everything else, and you kind of 918 00:43:36,800 --> 00:43:39,080 Speaker 1: know what you want to do. Do you feel like 919 00:43:39,160 --> 00:43:41,920 Speaker 1: school is unnecessary at that point because you're like, hey, 920 00:43:41,960 --> 00:43:43,920 Speaker 1: I know what I want to do for my career, 921 00:43:44,440 --> 00:43:46,760 Speaker 1: and you know, I think about this. For instance, at Fox, 922 00:43:47,200 --> 00:43:50,080 Speaker 1: two of our bosses, I think, uh, Eric Shanks and 923 00:43:50,160 --> 00:43:54,080 Speaker 1: Brad Zeiger, neither one of them finished college because they're like, 924 00:43:54,239 --> 00:43:56,200 Speaker 1: I want to do you know, sports production? I want 925 00:43:56,200 --> 00:43:59,680 Speaker 1: to and now obviously very successful at Fox. Did you 926 00:43:59,719 --> 00:44:01,600 Speaker 1: feel like you were just wasting your time at that 927 00:44:01,600 --> 00:44:04,800 Speaker 1: point in college where a little I mean university in 928 00:44:04,840 --> 00:44:07,040 Speaker 1: college is different in Canada. So if you're going to university, 929 00:44:07,080 --> 00:44:09,000 Speaker 1: you're going for four years, which is college in the 930 00:44:09,080 --> 00:44:12,400 Speaker 1: United States, right, But if you're going to college in Canada, 931 00:44:12,520 --> 00:44:15,319 Speaker 1: it's usually two years and it's usually some kind of 932 00:44:15,360 --> 00:44:18,879 Speaker 1: trade or it's more hands on. So if I were 933 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:22,960 Speaker 1: to go to university for broadcast journalism in Canada, the 934 00:44:23,000 --> 00:44:26,400 Speaker 1: first two years would be writing essays and theories about whatever, 935 00:44:27,160 --> 00:44:30,200 Speaker 1: and then the final two years would be in studio, 936 00:44:30,280 --> 00:44:32,920 Speaker 1: getting your hands dirty, going out into the field. And 937 00:44:32,960 --> 00:44:34,200 Speaker 1: I was just like, I don't want to waste my 938 00:44:34,200 --> 00:44:36,200 Speaker 1: time with the first two years, like I've already been 939 00:44:36,200 --> 00:44:38,240 Speaker 1: out in the field. So I want to go to college. 940 00:44:38,280 --> 00:44:39,600 Speaker 1: I want to be done in two years, and I 941 00:44:39,640 --> 00:44:44,080 Speaker 1: want to be working in that third year. So um 942 00:44:44,120 --> 00:44:48,800 Speaker 1: so yeah. So by the second year, UM, I never finished. 943 00:44:48,880 --> 00:44:51,240 Speaker 1: I was missing one still to this day, i'm missing 944 00:44:51,280 --> 00:44:54,720 Speaker 1: one credit to graduate. I do not need it now. UM. 945 00:44:54,760 --> 00:44:57,360 Speaker 1: But I was going to go back uh for a 946 00:44:57,400 --> 00:45:01,359 Speaker 1: final semester. And then um or I was gonna go back. 947 00:45:01,360 --> 00:45:02,880 Speaker 1: I was gonna go back to school for theater. I 948 00:45:02,960 --> 00:45:05,239 Speaker 1: decided that I did not want to do broadcast. I 949 00:45:05,280 --> 00:45:08,279 Speaker 1: didn't want to do broadcasting anymore. For whatever reason, I 950 00:45:08,360 --> 00:45:10,640 Speaker 1: really enjoyed those improv classes, and I was just like, 951 00:45:10,640 --> 00:45:12,399 Speaker 1: I've always wanted to be an actor, Like why am 952 00:45:12,400 --> 00:45:15,200 Speaker 1: I still reading the news? This isn't exactly what I 953 00:45:15,239 --> 00:45:18,439 Speaker 1: want to do. I'm still thinking about acting all the time. Um. 954 00:45:18,480 --> 00:45:21,800 Speaker 1: And so I had one credit left and I was 955 00:45:21,840 --> 00:45:23,320 Speaker 1: just like, I'm not I'm not going to finish this 956 00:45:23,360 --> 00:45:25,000 Speaker 1: because I'm gonna go back to school for something else. 957 00:45:25,040 --> 00:45:28,439 Speaker 1: And then, in that interim period of deciding I wanted 958 00:45:28,440 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: to leave broadcast journalism behind and applying for universities for 959 00:45:33,320 --> 00:45:37,319 Speaker 1: theater programs, I got my first big job it's like 960 00:45:37,400 --> 00:45:41,799 Speaker 1: by accident. So then that kind of just led me astray. 961 00:45:41,920 --> 00:45:46,040 Speaker 1: So what was the job? So it was Toronto c 962 00:45:46,239 --> 00:45:50,040 Speaker 1: which is Major League soccer. It was the Dream Job contest, 963 00:45:50,280 --> 00:45:52,120 Speaker 1: So it wasn't even a job application. It was a 964 00:45:52,160 --> 00:45:54,239 Speaker 1: contest that I saw on Facebook and it was like, 965 00:45:54,280 --> 00:45:57,320 Speaker 1: whoever wins this contest gets to be on the jumble 966 00:45:57,400 --> 00:46:00,560 Speaker 1: tron at halftime and interview players and do all this 967 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:01,960 Speaker 1: like fun stuff. And I was like, oh, this could 968 00:46:01,960 --> 00:46:04,600 Speaker 1: be like a perfect side thing while I'm going to school. 969 00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:06,360 Speaker 1: I still get to be in front of a camera. 970 00:46:07,280 --> 00:46:09,320 Speaker 1: I still get to, you know, like play in that space. 971 00:46:09,800 --> 00:46:11,799 Speaker 1: So like, why not, I'm probably not gonna win. I 972 00:46:11,800 --> 00:46:14,080 Speaker 1: don't know much about soccer, so let me just like apply. 973 00:46:14,880 --> 00:46:18,520 Speaker 1: So I applied and just from my so you applied 974 00:46:18,520 --> 00:46:21,400 Speaker 1: by how like doing a video? Like what's what's the application? 975 00:46:21,560 --> 00:46:24,480 Speaker 1: First application process was literally just an application. It was 976 00:46:24,520 --> 00:46:27,759 Speaker 1: like who are you? Why do you want this job? Um? 977 00:46:27,840 --> 00:46:31,520 Speaker 1: And I cracked top fifteen just by my application, and 978 00:46:31,680 --> 00:46:36,120 Speaker 1: my application was a little inappropriated. I made some I 979 00:46:36,200 --> 00:46:40,520 Speaker 1: made some choice. I the first I don't know how 980 00:46:40,560 --> 00:46:43,600 Speaker 1: I got hired off this, but the first line you 981 00:46:43,600 --> 00:46:45,319 Speaker 1: have to kind of like write a like a mini 982 00:46:45,440 --> 00:46:49,160 Speaker 1: essay on why you should be hired. The first line 983 00:46:49,360 --> 00:46:53,560 Speaker 1: of my essay was besides my love for balls dot 984 00:46:53,600 --> 00:46:57,560 Speaker 1: dot dot, this is why you should hire me. That 985 00:46:57,760 --> 00:47:01,840 Speaker 1: got me to crack the top fifteen. Somehow I have 986 00:47:01,960 --> 00:47:03,919 Speaker 1: not some of that must have line must have caught 987 00:47:03,960 --> 00:47:07,759 Speaker 1: somebody's eye. Um so you're handwriting this or do you 988 00:47:07,800 --> 00:47:11,200 Speaker 1: like you're typing this online submission? It was an online submission. 989 00:47:11,960 --> 00:47:14,880 Speaker 1: Did you spend on the online submission? Oh? I remember, 990 00:47:14,960 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: like just like saying screw it, I'm not gonna win this. 991 00:47:17,440 --> 00:47:19,960 Speaker 1: So I remember maybe like twenty minutes, just like a 992 00:47:20,120 --> 00:47:22,080 Speaker 1: quick type up like who are you? How old? Do 993 00:47:22,200 --> 00:47:25,600 Speaker 1: you send us a picture? And why you want this job? So? 994 00:47:26,480 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: Um so I cracked top fifteen, and then top fifteen 995 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:31,920 Speaker 1: had to send in a video, and I was just like, 996 00:47:31,960 --> 00:47:34,920 Speaker 1: oh man, now I got this in the bag. So 997 00:47:35,080 --> 00:47:39,520 Speaker 1: I made uh like a two minute sketch comedy sketch 998 00:47:39,560 --> 00:47:42,040 Speaker 1: on why I should be hired. And I got this 999 00:47:42,080 --> 00:47:44,919 Speaker 1: guy to put on a brown wig and do keep 1000 00:47:44,920 --> 00:47:46,880 Speaker 1: you up eas like keep ups with a football with 1001 00:47:46,920 --> 00:47:50,320 Speaker 1: a soccer ball, and wear a duke, and we shot 1002 00:47:50,320 --> 00:47:53,040 Speaker 1: it as if it looked like I was doing, so 1003 00:47:53,080 --> 00:47:55,040 Speaker 1: they're like, oh, this girl is funny. And then I 1004 00:47:55,120 --> 00:47:57,600 Speaker 1: cracked the cracked the top five. That video is still 1005 00:47:57,600 --> 00:48:00,000 Speaker 1: available to watch on YouTube. By the way, I cracked 1006 00:48:00,040 --> 00:48:02,279 Speaker 1: the top five, and I was just like, how do 1007 00:48:02,360 --> 00:48:04,240 Speaker 1: you mean you crack the top five? Like people vote, 1008 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:06,840 Speaker 1: like how are you? How do you know where you're ranking. 1009 00:48:06,880 --> 00:48:09,359 Speaker 1: I think it was a combination of people voting and 1010 00:48:09,400 --> 00:48:12,840 Speaker 1: also uh, their choice, like toront his choice. So I 1011 00:48:12,880 --> 00:48:14,360 Speaker 1: think that they thought that was funny and that I 1012 00:48:14,400 --> 00:48:16,719 Speaker 1: could do some different things, and they're like, all right, 1013 00:48:16,760 --> 00:48:18,960 Speaker 1: this girl's entertaining, like let's let's bring her in for 1014 00:48:19,000 --> 00:48:23,000 Speaker 1: an interview. Um. So then I was top five and 1015 00:48:23,120 --> 00:48:25,680 Speaker 1: I went in for an interview and they know nothing 1016 00:48:25,719 --> 00:48:29,839 Speaker 1: about soccer, like Toronto captains. I had the captain's name, 1017 00:48:30,000 --> 00:48:33,800 Speaker 1: Porston Springs written in ink on my hand for the interview, 1018 00:48:34,520 --> 00:48:36,239 Speaker 1: so you could come out and like cheat if you 1019 00:48:36,280 --> 00:48:37,799 Speaker 1: need to, So I could look down and say if 1020 00:48:37,800 --> 00:48:39,200 Speaker 1: they asked me any questions, I could be like, at 1021 00:48:39,239 --> 00:48:41,160 Speaker 1: least I know who the captain is. I can I 1022 00:48:41,160 --> 00:48:46,120 Speaker 1: can work Towards and Springs into my bullshitting um and uh. 1023 00:48:46,160 --> 00:48:47,719 Speaker 1: And I just like I won them over in the 1024 00:48:47,719 --> 00:48:52,319 Speaker 1: meeting I was myself and uh. I remember I was 1025 00:48:52,400 --> 00:48:54,560 Speaker 1: working at the time at a bar. There was a 1026 00:48:54,640 --> 00:49:00,520 Speaker 1: torontof Sea bar um and so as a bartender, as 1027 00:49:00,600 --> 00:49:04,560 Speaker 1: a as a server, and so the final process of 1028 00:49:04,560 --> 00:49:06,560 Speaker 1: this contest, that is, they were going to invite all 1029 00:49:06,600 --> 00:49:09,520 Speaker 1: of us to center field at half time and announced 1030 00:49:09,520 --> 00:49:11,640 Speaker 1: the winner. There was five of us left, but I 1031 00:49:11,680 --> 00:49:14,359 Speaker 1: had to work the shift before the game. So I 1032 00:49:14,400 --> 00:49:16,839 Speaker 1: was in the in the restaurant serving all of these 1033 00:49:16,920 --> 00:49:19,080 Speaker 1: Toronto Sea fans. And then my bosses let me go 1034 00:49:19,239 --> 00:49:21,840 Speaker 1: to the game to see if I won the contest, 1035 00:49:21,880 --> 00:49:23,520 Speaker 1: and my mom was with me, and it was raining, 1036 00:49:24,000 --> 00:49:25,680 Speaker 1: and I remember before we even went in, I was like, Mom, 1037 00:49:25,680 --> 00:49:26,920 Speaker 1: I don't want to do this, like I'm not gonna win. 1038 00:49:26,920 --> 00:49:28,919 Speaker 1: I'm gonna be embarrassed in front of the twenty people 1039 00:49:28,920 --> 00:49:30,719 Speaker 1: that are sitting in the stands right now. And She's 1040 00:49:30,760 --> 00:49:33,000 Speaker 1: like just go, like it's fine. What if you do 1041 00:49:33,120 --> 00:49:37,120 Speaker 1: win then? Uh? And I remember a halftime it was raining. 1042 00:49:37,120 --> 00:49:39,680 Speaker 1: They pulled us all out in the middle field and 1043 00:49:39,760 --> 00:49:42,600 Speaker 1: they called my name and I was just like, oh 1044 00:49:42,600 --> 00:49:47,759 Speaker 1: my god, I won and I sprinted. I shook some 1045 00:49:47,880 --> 00:49:50,959 Speaker 1: hands like oh my god, this is and I sprinted 1046 00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:53,680 Speaker 1: to my mom because I knew where she was sitting, 1047 00:49:53,680 --> 00:49:56,200 Speaker 1: and we just like held each other and cried because 1048 00:49:56,200 --> 00:49:58,080 Speaker 1: this was the first win. This was my first win. 1049 00:49:58,960 --> 00:50:03,480 Speaker 1: I didn't finish school. Dad passes away, which procious first semester. 1050 00:50:03,840 --> 00:50:05,319 Speaker 1: Holy crap, I just want to I just beat up 1051 00:50:05,320 --> 00:50:07,800 Speaker 1: five people for this job that I probably did not deserve. 1052 00:50:08,600 --> 00:50:11,120 Speaker 1: So her and I were just sobbing in each other's arms, like, 1053 00:50:11,160 --> 00:50:12,719 Speaker 1: oh my God, Like I'm gonna be able to take 1054 00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:14,279 Speaker 1: care of myself, You're not gonna have to pay my rent, 1055 00:50:14,400 --> 00:50:16,400 Speaker 1: me more, all of these things. It was just like 1056 00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:20,080 Speaker 1: a really beautiful moment. Uh. And then I was like, Okay, 1057 00:50:20,120 --> 00:50:23,719 Speaker 1: I guess I'm gonna blow off school for a little 1058 00:50:23,760 --> 00:50:26,200 Speaker 1: bit longer and be this host because they hired me 1059 00:50:26,239 --> 00:50:29,640 Speaker 1: for some reason. They hired me Monday to Friday five, 1060 00:50:30,280 --> 00:50:32,080 Speaker 1: but I was an arena host, like they wanted me 1061 00:50:32,120 --> 00:50:34,760 Speaker 1: to do so much more than the initial job entailed. 1062 00:50:34,800 --> 00:50:37,839 Speaker 1: So I was just like, Okay, they paid me forty dollars. 1063 00:50:37,880 --> 00:50:40,600 Speaker 1: I was like, that's an instant amount of money. Yeah, 1064 00:50:42,440 --> 00:50:45,040 Speaker 1: you're what twenty years old. I'm twenty years old at 1065 00:50:45,040 --> 00:50:50,879 Speaker 1: the time. Yeah. Uh, that's literally the jackpot. You think 1066 00:50:50,880 --> 00:50:55,640 Speaker 1: you're rich with compared to the other twenty year olds, 1067 00:50:55,640 --> 00:51:00,719 Speaker 1: and so what does that job entail? Held nothing and 1068 00:51:00,920 --> 00:51:03,440 Speaker 1: entailed absolutely nothing. I had to go and show up 1069 00:51:03,440 --> 00:51:05,880 Speaker 1: on the weekends and be the arena hosts. But because 1070 00:51:05,920 --> 00:51:08,120 Speaker 1: I was sitting at a desk every single day and 1071 00:51:08,160 --> 00:51:12,160 Speaker 1: going berserk with boredom, YouTube was hot and fresh. I 1072 00:51:12,160 --> 00:51:15,160 Speaker 1: started making usy videos, and I started making sketches within 1073 00:51:15,200 --> 00:51:17,680 Speaker 1: the office and doing like weekly videos that I would 1074 00:51:17,680 --> 00:51:20,759 Speaker 1: put out that the fans could watch, and um, those 1075 00:51:20,800 --> 00:51:23,400 Speaker 1: like kind of blew up in in like small YouTube terms, 1076 00:51:24,040 --> 00:51:27,480 Speaker 1: and uh, Major League Soccer. The head office in New 1077 00:51:27,560 --> 00:51:31,239 Speaker 1: York City started seeing these videos and being like, we 1078 00:51:31,320 --> 00:51:33,200 Speaker 1: really like what you're doing, or would you ever be 1079 00:51:33,200 --> 00:51:35,600 Speaker 1: interested in moving to New York City? And I had 1080 00:51:35,600 --> 00:51:37,959 Speaker 1: been to New York City one time in my life 1081 00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:40,800 Speaker 1: before that, and I had um, oh, I can't remember 1082 00:51:40,800 --> 00:51:42,520 Speaker 1: the name of it. I think a Carnegie Delhi. Does 1083 00:51:42,560 --> 00:51:44,400 Speaker 1: that sound right? I had a Deli napkin from New 1084 00:51:44,480 --> 00:51:47,959 Speaker 1: York City posted on my cubicle because I just loved 1085 00:51:48,040 --> 00:51:51,000 Speaker 1: New York City so much. Um and I even had 1086 00:51:51,000 --> 00:51:53,160 Speaker 1: written a contract to myself. I still have it. When 1087 00:51:53,200 --> 00:51:55,480 Speaker 1: I was about ten years old, I Rachel Bannetta will 1088 00:51:55,520 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: live in New York City by the time I'm twenty three, uh, 1089 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:02,440 Speaker 1: and like signed with a in and everything. Uh. And 1090 00:52:02,480 --> 00:52:05,000 Speaker 1: so I spent a couple of years in Toronto, got 1091 00:52:05,000 --> 00:52:07,120 Speaker 1: this email, maybe like a year and a half in 1092 00:52:07,560 --> 00:52:09,239 Speaker 1: and they were like, we would like, we would like 1093 00:52:09,280 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: to bring you out to New York City if you're 1094 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:12,879 Speaker 1: willing to move here. And so that's how I got 1095 00:52:12,920 --> 00:52:16,359 Speaker 1: to from Toronto to New York. What do you think 1096 00:52:16,360 --> 00:52:18,319 Speaker 1: would have happened if you hadn't seen that Facebook ad? 1097 00:52:20,000 --> 00:52:22,400 Speaker 1: I have no idea. I would probably be a waitress 1098 00:52:22,400 --> 00:52:23,960 Speaker 1: in Toronto trying to make it as an actress. And 1099 00:52:24,000 --> 00:52:26,120 Speaker 1: that sounds super depressing to me. There's so many points 1100 00:52:26,160 --> 00:52:27,800 Speaker 1: in my career, as I'm sure we'll keep on talking 1101 00:52:27,840 --> 00:52:29,959 Speaker 1: that I could have gone left, but I went right, 1102 00:52:30,080 --> 00:52:33,759 Speaker 1: and I have no idea what would have happened if 1103 00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,400 Speaker 1: I went left? Like it's insane. So you go to 1104 00:52:36,520 --> 00:52:38,600 Speaker 1: you take the MLS job, and I'm curious, I want 1105 00:52:38,640 --> 00:52:40,799 Speaker 1: to go back again because you said you're just bored 1106 00:52:40,840 --> 00:52:43,759 Speaker 1: at the office nine to five, like you are on 1107 00:52:44,000 --> 00:52:47,160 Speaker 1: you know, doing the games for Toronto FC. But that's 1108 00:52:47,160 --> 00:52:48,640 Speaker 1: where you come up with the idea of Hey, I'm 1109 00:52:48,640 --> 00:52:51,239 Speaker 1: going to do these videos? Do you ask anybody for permission? 1110 00:52:51,400 --> 00:52:53,960 Speaker 1: How do you go about taking the initiative there? Well, 1111 00:52:54,000 --> 00:52:55,839 Speaker 1: I knew how to operate a camera, I knew how 1112 00:52:55,840 --> 00:52:57,320 Speaker 1: to set up a tripod, and I knew how to 1113 00:52:57,360 --> 00:52:59,000 Speaker 1: plug plug in a mic. So I was just like, 1114 00:52:59,360 --> 00:53:00,840 Speaker 1: do you as mind a Like, I'm just like I 1115 00:53:00,840 --> 00:53:02,640 Speaker 1: got an idea. I'm just gonna go like shoot some 1116 00:53:02,640 --> 00:53:05,160 Speaker 1: stuff from I'm not doing anything anyways, and they're like, yeah, 1117 00:53:05,320 --> 00:53:06,759 Speaker 1: go go give it a shot. And I also knew 1118 00:53:06,760 --> 00:53:09,439 Speaker 1: how to edit, So I was going around and first 1119 00:53:09,520 --> 00:53:11,640 Speaker 1: I did these things called six and sixty, so six 1120 00:53:11,680 --> 00:53:14,359 Speaker 1: things to know about the game in sixty seconds. So 1121 00:53:14,480 --> 00:53:17,400 Speaker 1: I would go around the stadium six different spots and 1122 00:53:17,440 --> 00:53:20,120 Speaker 1: I'd be like, game time is six pm, and then 1123 00:53:20,200 --> 00:53:22,799 Speaker 1: like joke, joke, joke and character character character, and then 1124 00:53:22,880 --> 00:53:25,160 Speaker 1: number two would be like, you guys are gonna want 1125 00:53:25,160 --> 00:53:28,120 Speaker 1: to take the t TC, which is our trans transportation 1126 00:53:28,440 --> 00:53:31,640 Speaker 1: um like buses and trains and stuff like that in Toronto, uh, 1127 00:53:31,680 --> 00:53:33,719 Speaker 1: and give them like traffic reports. And it was all 1128 00:53:33,760 --> 00:53:36,399 Speaker 1: it was like sixty seconds of just like fun. Uh. 1129 00:53:36,440 --> 00:53:38,760 Speaker 1: And I shot them myself, I wrote them myself, I 1130 00:53:38,920 --> 00:53:41,399 Speaker 1: vowed them, I edited them, and I put them all 1131 00:53:41,440 --> 00:53:43,480 Speaker 1: out myself. I just showed them like one or two 1132 00:53:43,480 --> 00:53:44,839 Speaker 1: and they're like, yeah, they look cool. Let's just put 1133 00:53:44,840 --> 00:53:47,080 Speaker 1: them on the on my YouTube on our YouTube channel, 1134 00:53:47,480 --> 00:53:49,920 Speaker 1: which was like not of consequence at the time because 1135 00:53:49,920 --> 00:53:52,840 Speaker 1: it was brand new and you know, uh, and so 1136 00:53:52,920 --> 00:53:54,480 Speaker 1: they put it up. But then people started to like them. 1137 00:53:54,480 --> 00:53:56,680 Speaker 1: So I started making more and more in depth and 1138 00:53:56,760 --> 00:53:59,799 Speaker 1: more creative and more weird, and like someone got really weird. 1139 00:54:00,680 --> 00:54:02,759 Speaker 1: But that's what MLS noticed and that's what they liked, 1140 00:54:02,840 --> 00:54:06,359 Speaker 1: so led me here. Oh yeah, for sure. Probably if 1141 00:54:06,360 --> 00:54:10,560 Speaker 1: you oh gosh, if you searched Rachel Bannetta six and 1142 00:54:10,600 --> 00:54:14,160 Speaker 1: sixty t t FC, I'm sure you'd find some real gems. 1143 00:54:14,560 --> 00:54:16,759 Speaker 1: So you get So this is pretty wild. It means 1144 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:20,600 Speaker 1: a pretty fast trajectory, right. You you get hired by 1145 00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:24,160 Speaker 1: Toronto FC. You you start to establish yourself. You're fortunate 1146 00:54:24,200 --> 00:54:26,759 Speaker 1: in that the MLS is still like kind of a 1147 00:54:26,800 --> 00:54:29,560 Speaker 1: new league, and obviously you're experimenting in a new arena 1148 00:54:29,680 --> 00:54:33,320 Speaker 1: with YouTube and kind of the social ability to advertise 1149 00:54:33,360 --> 00:54:35,239 Speaker 1: in that way. And you get to MLS and what 1150 00:54:35,239 --> 00:54:38,279 Speaker 1: do you do in New York? What's your job there? So? Uh, 1151 00:54:38,360 --> 00:54:40,120 Speaker 1: in New York. It's kind of like Free Range. They're like, 1152 00:54:40,120 --> 00:54:42,440 Speaker 1: we want you to be our digital host. So anything 1153 00:54:42,480 --> 00:54:44,480 Speaker 1: we need you for, we want you to do, we 1154 00:54:44,520 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: want to develop shows for you. So I got the 1155 00:54:47,000 --> 00:54:49,279 Speaker 1: show called Off Topic with Rachel Benetta, which is where 1156 00:54:49,280 --> 00:54:51,560 Speaker 1: I would like travel and meet up with an athlete 1157 00:54:51,560 --> 00:54:53,359 Speaker 1: and we would go out something, go out and do 1158 00:54:53,440 --> 00:54:55,359 Speaker 1: something that had nothing to do with what they did 1159 00:54:55,400 --> 00:54:57,359 Speaker 1: on the field. We would like go bowling or go 1160 00:54:58,000 --> 00:55:00,120 Speaker 1: you know, seeker shopping or whatever. And I was just 1161 00:55:00,160 --> 00:55:02,120 Speaker 1: it was all personality driven. It was like literally just 1162 00:55:02,160 --> 00:55:04,000 Speaker 1: me hanging out with these dudes. And again those became 1163 00:55:04,080 --> 00:55:07,359 Speaker 1: so popular that we had athletes coming to us and 1164 00:55:07,400 --> 00:55:11,200 Speaker 1: being like we would like to do this, which was 1165 00:55:11,239 --> 00:55:13,680 Speaker 1: insane because there was still I only spent a year 1166 00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:17,120 Speaker 1: with them less. It all happened so so quickly. Um 1167 00:55:17,160 --> 00:55:19,960 Speaker 1: so just like really fun, personality driven stuff. And I 1168 00:55:20,000 --> 00:55:22,000 Speaker 1: would also still do like comedy sketches that I would 1169 00:55:22,000 --> 00:55:25,919 Speaker 1: write and we would put out, um and uh yeah. 1170 00:55:25,960 --> 00:55:27,600 Speaker 1: It was like all Free Rangers are like, we willing 1171 00:55:27,680 --> 00:55:29,080 Speaker 1: to keep on doing what you like to do, and 1172 00:55:29,120 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: what you like to do is being yourself. So it 1173 00:55:30,680 --> 00:55:33,080 Speaker 1: was pretty It was a pretty fun job be sure 1174 00:55:33,120 --> 00:55:35,400 Speaker 1: to catch live editions of Out Kicked the coverage with 1175 00:55:35,480 --> 00:55:40,880 Speaker 1: Clay Travis week days at six am Eastern three am Pacific. Alright, 1176 00:55:40,920 --> 00:55:44,920 Speaker 1: So part of social media and the YouTube universe and 1177 00:55:45,040 --> 00:55:47,880 Speaker 1: just people being able to reach out to you comes 1178 00:55:47,960 --> 00:55:50,959 Speaker 1: with some negativity. Were you getting almost all positive stuff 1179 00:55:51,000 --> 00:55:53,960 Speaker 1: because soccer fans tend to be a happy, go lucky group, 1180 00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:56,680 Speaker 1: or were you getting because one of the challenges I 1181 00:55:56,719 --> 00:55:59,399 Speaker 1: think people have in general is putting themselves out there 1182 00:55:59,480 --> 00:56:02,880 Speaker 1: having this health confidence or the tough skin. And obviously 1183 00:56:03,239 --> 00:56:05,480 Speaker 1: just from the lifestyle that you have led, maybe your 1184 00:56:05,520 --> 00:56:07,960 Speaker 1: skin was tougher than most. But I feel like that's 1185 00:56:07,960 --> 00:56:09,960 Speaker 1: a big challenge, especially for people who were in their 1186 00:56:10,000 --> 00:56:13,520 Speaker 1: young twenties, because you may not you know, you don't 1187 00:56:13,520 --> 00:56:16,000 Speaker 1: have bubble wrap. People are mean on the internet. Did 1188 00:56:16,040 --> 00:56:17,960 Speaker 1: you read any of that or you just didn't read 1189 00:56:18,000 --> 00:56:19,840 Speaker 1: the comments or you haven't didn't really have it as 1190 00:56:19,840 --> 00:56:24,080 Speaker 1: an issue? Um. I mean, I I feel like, knock 1191 00:56:24,120 --> 00:56:27,400 Speaker 1: on wood, I've been really, really lucky even up until 1192 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:28,799 Speaker 1: this point in my career that people tend to be 1193 00:56:28,800 --> 00:56:32,840 Speaker 1: pretty nice to me on social media. Um, but I 1194 00:56:32,880 --> 00:56:36,240 Speaker 1: think that when I was at MLS, it is such 1195 00:56:36,280 --> 00:56:41,120 Speaker 1: a niche sport. There is not a ton of It's 1196 00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: growing for sure, but there's still a not a ton 1197 00:56:43,200 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: of people that watch. Uh I'm alive. So I was 1198 00:56:47,160 --> 00:56:49,319 Speaker 1: putting all these new videos who which were very new. 1199 00:56:49,600 --> 00:56:53,120 Speaker 1: They've never seen anything really like this female host digital host, 1200 00:56:53,280 --> 00:56:55,560 Speaker 1: she knows a bit about soccer. Okay, this is cool. 1201 00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:59,239 Speaker 1: That has probably been the time in my career that 1202 00:56:59,280 --> 00:57:01,960 Speaker 1: I have been like wreck niced in airports, more in malls. 1203 00:57:01,960 --> 00:57:04,080 Speaker 1: People would come up to me at restaurants because it's 1204 00:57:04,080 --> 00:57:07,840 Speaker 1: so niche. People want to soak up like every single 1205 00:57:08,000 --> 00:57:11,960 Speaker 1: ounce of content that we have um and and soccer 1206 00:57:12,000 --> 00:57:15,520 Speaker 1: fans are hardcore, like they're really into their teams. Um 1207 00:57:15,880 --> 00:57:17,919 Speaker 1: So it was really cool, like that was the first 1208 00:57:17,960 --> 00:57:19,760 Speaker 1: time that I actually felt like, oh my gosh, this 1209 00:57:19,840 --> 00:57:21,400 Speaker 1: is like a nice feeling. People like what I'm doing. 1210 00:57:21,440 --> 00:57:23,640 Speaker 1: People are watching what I'm doing. They're starting to follow 1211 00:57:23,680 --> 00:57:25,520 Speaker 1: me on social media. People are coming up to me 1212 00:57:25,600 --> 00:57:27,800 Speaker 1: in the stands at soccer games and being like, oh 1213 00:57:27,840 --> 00:57:29,520 Speaker 1: my god, I'm such a big fan off topic or 1214 00:57:29,520 --> 00:57:30,640 Speaker 1: I'm such a big fan to get me in there 1215 00:57:30,680 --> 00:57:32,920 Speaker 1: the other show I was doing. So it was a 1216 00:57:33,000 --> 00:57:35,760 Speaker 1: really exciting time. I remember the first time I hit 1217 00:57:35,800 --> 00:57:39,240 Speaker 1: like ten thousand followers on Twitter. Iuse was like, oh 1218 00:57:39,280 --> 00:57:41,800 Speaker 1: my god, I'm famous. And then people whenever I would 1219 00:57:41,840 --> 00:57:43,919 Speaker 1: go home, people started calling me Hollywood and I wasn't 1220 00:57:43,920 --> 00:57:46,440 Speaker 1: even living in l A. But just the even those 1221 00:57:46,880 --> 00:57:49,560 Speaker 1: so miniscul members compared to you know, people on social 1222 00:57:49,600 --> 00:57:53,439 Speaker 1: media today. Um, but it was a really exciting time 1223 00:57:53,480 --> 00:57:54,800 Speaker 1: for me. I so it's like, oh my gosh, people 1224 00:57:54,800 --> 00:57:56,240 Speaker 1: like what I'm doing. This is really cool. So it 1225 00:57:56,320 --> 00:57:58,880 Speaker 1: was also huge boost and confidence as well. So what 1226 00:57:58,960 --> 00:58:06,320 Speaker 1: happens then? So I was about six months into that job, 1227 00:58:06,440 --> 00:58:09,680 Speaker 1: and again, um, people started seeing what I was doing, 1228 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,080 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, I had ESPN and Fox 1229 00:58:14,080 --> 00:58:16,840 Speaker 1: Sports knocking on my door. And I have never told 1230 00:58:16,840 --> 00:58:19,240 Speaker 1: this story publicly. I told the story to you last week. 1231 00:58:19,240 --> 00:58:22,760 Speaker 1: And it took me a while to agree to tell 1232 00:58:22,800 --> 00:58:24,680 Speaker 1: this story, but I guess I guess I'll put it 1233 00:58:24,720 --> 00:58:29,320 Speaker 1: out there now. Um. So, uh, ESPN gave me a 1234 00:58:29,360 --> 00:58:32,360 Speaker 1: really great offer and I was still up to my 1235 00:58:32,680 --> 00:58:36,320 Speaker 1: ears in debt, and um, I just started dating somebody 1236 00:58:36,400 --> 00:58:38,640 Speaker 1: new in New York City who's still my current boyfriend now. 1237 00:58:39,280 --> 00:58:42,040 Speaker 1: And uh, as much as the offer with Fox Sports 1238 00:58:42,040 --> 00:58:43,720 Speaker 1: sounded like awesome, like oh my god, I want to 1239 00:58:43,720 --> 00:58:44,960 Speaker 1: move to l A. Oh my god, I want to 1240 00:58:44,960 --> 00:58:46,800 Speaker 1: work for the same company as Jay and Dan, who 1241 00:58:46,800 --> 00:58:51,480 Speaker 1: are like kings Kings Kings Kings from where I come from. 1242 00:58:51,600 --> 00:58:54,960 Speaker 1: Um uh, Like every every sign pointed to Fox Sports, 1243 00:58:54,960 --> 00:58:56,439 Speaker 1: but I was like, I don't want to move New York. 1244 00:58:56,480 --> 00:58:59,800 Speaker 1: I haven't even been living here a year yet, and 1245 00:59:00,120 --> 00:59:04,200 Speaker 1: more money, and so I chose ESPN. Plot twist. I 1246 00:59:04,240 --> 00:59:06,760 Speaker 1: said not to Fox Sports at first, and I went 1247 00:59:06,800 --> 00:59:11,920 Speaker 1: down the route of ESPN and um, everything was Seinfield delivered. 1248 00:59:11,920 --> 00:59:13,480 Speaker 1: They gave me my offer. I was like, a yes, 1249 00:59:13,600 --> 00:59:18,120 Speaker 1: police bank account is going to be looking good. They 1250 00:59:18,160 --> 00:59:22,600 Speaker 1: they got me my visa approved. Like everything was Seinfield delivered. 1251 00:59:23,440 --> 00:59:26,320 Speaker 1: And I was about to go to Africa because I 1252 00:59:26,360 --> 00:59:29,000 Speaker 1: just started volunteering with a nonprofit. I was like weeks 1253 00:59:29,040 --> 00:59:31,280 Speaker 1: away from going Africa. Um, and I was going to 1254 00:59:31,360 --> 00:59:33,400 Speaker 1: go to Africa, like the beginning of December and then January. 1255 00:59:33,480 --> 00:59:35,920 Speaker 1: Oh one, I was supposed to start with ESPN. So 1256 00:59:38,080 --> 00:59:41,320 Speaker 1: what year, Um, this was about like three and four, 1257 00:59:41,560 --> 00:59:46,560 Speaker 1: three years ago. So twenty six, you tell your mom, Hey, 1258 00:59:46,560 --> 00:59:49,640 Speaker 1: I'm gonna go work at ESPNE. I said, oh my god, Mom, 1259 00:59:49,760 --> 00:59:52,400 Speaker 1: I am gonna make in bee bee beep at ESPN, 1260 00:59:52,440 --> 00:59:57,520 Speaker 1: and she's just like, holy ship. It was. It was amazing, 1261 00:59:57,600 --> 00:59:59,600 Speaker 1: Like it was such an exciting time. Not that money 1262 00:59:59,680 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: is everything, but it was just like again, like, oh 1263 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:03,200 Speaker 1: my god, You're gonna be able to be on your 1264 01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:04,600 Speaker 1: own now and I don't have to worry about you 1265 01:00:04,600 --> 01:00:05,880 Speaker 1: so much. You're gonna be able to pay off all 1266 01:00:05,880 --> 01:00:07,640 Speaker 1: your debt, You're gonna be living in New York City, 1267 01:00:07,680 --> 01:00:09,120 Speaker 1: you got a you got a nice boyfriend that I 1268 01:00:09,200 --> 01:00:11,320 Speaker 1: really like. Like from her point of view, she was 1269 01:00:11,400 --> 01:00:16,680 Speaker 1: just like, thank Jesus all Olivia. Um and so accepted 1270 01:00:16,680 --> 01:00:19,479 Speaker 1: everything everything Seinfield delivered. I remember I kept my ten 1271 01:00:19,880 --> 01:00:22,120 Speaker 1: that my agent gave me to sign the contract. I 1272 01:00:22,120 --> 01:00:26,120 Speaker 1: think I still probably have it somewhere. That is how 1273 01:00:26,200 --> 01:00:28,600 Speaker 1: well it's like ESPN, you know, like that's it's like 1274 01:00:28,640 --> 01:00:31,600 Speaker 1: a crazy I came from or no, No No, and all 1275 01:00:31,600 --> 01:00:34,200 Speaker 1: of a sudden, now I have Fox Sports and ESPN 1276 01:00:34,280 --> 01:00:36,800 Speaker 1: knocking on my door, two of the biggest sports places 1277 01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,200 Speaker 1: in the entire world. Holy crap. How did I end 1278 01:00:39,280 --> 01:00:43,000 Speaker 1: up here? Um? And uh and So I signed everything 1279 01:00:43,000 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: everything Seinfield delivered sent off about a couple of days 1280 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:50,760 Speaker 1: before I leave for Africa. Um My, what would have been. 1281 01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,960 Speaker 1: My boss and I were chatting. We were like excited. 1282 01:00:53,000 --> 01:00:55,160 Speaker 1: We're talking about like where where my guest was gonna be. 1283 01:00:55,200 --> 01:00:56,919 Speaker 1: I was gonna still work out in Manhattan. I wasn't 1284 01:00:56,920 --> 01:01:00,480 Speaker 1: gonna have to go to Bristol um and Uh. I 1285 01:01:00,600 --> 01:01:03,400 Speaker 1: on an email from HR and they were like, hey, 1286 01:01:03,480 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: because we offered you the job and everything's like all 1287 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:09,040 Speaker 1: Sinfield delivered. You didn't apply like a normal person, So 1288 01:01:09,120 --> 01:01:11,120 Speaker 1: we don't have any information about you. We don't have 1289 01:01:11,160 --> 01:01:12,840 Speaker 1: your email, we don't have your phone number, we don't 1290 01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:16,120 Speaker 1: have your emergency contact, we don't have your resume, like nothing, 1291 01:01:16,200 --> 01:01:18,200 Speaker 1: and as HR, we need all of those things to 1292 01:01:18,240 --> 01:01:20,520 Speaker 1: put on file. And I was like, sure, no problems, 1293 01:01:20,520 --> 01:01:22,840 Speaker 1: send send your applications like whatever, I'll fill it all out. 1294 01:01:23,440 --> 01:01:27,400 Speaker 1: So um, I'm filling it out. It's like emergency contact, 1295 01:01:27,560 --> 01:01:29,400 Speaker 1: cell phone number, email, did it out? Where did you 1296 01:01:29,440 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: go to school? What years did you go to I 1297 01:01:31,920 --> 01:01:34,880 Speaker 1: went Seneca College from two thousand seven to two thousand 1298 01:01:34,960 --> 01:01:39,880 Speaker 1: nine or two eleven whatever. It was not indicating that 1299 01:01:40,000 --> 01:01:43,080 Speaker 1: I did not graduate. I was probably making it seem 1300 01:01:43,160 --> 01:01:45,880 Speaker 1: like I had because at that point sein Field delivered, 1301 01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:48,280 Speaker 1: have this job. Who cares if I went to school? 1302 01:01:48,360 --> 01:01:50,720 Speaker 1: Or not period, whether I graduated or not as a 1303 01:01:50,720 --> 01:01:53,120 Speaker 1: whole other story. I've been working for like four years 1304 01:01:53,120 --> 01:01:56,440 Speaker 1: at this point. Um. And so I sent that off, 1305 01:01:56,520 --> 01:01:58,560 Speaker 1: didn't even think about it, flew to Africa, having a 1306 01:01:58,600 --> 01:02:01,680 Speaker 1: great time helping the children, YadA, YadA ya. I got 1307 01:02:01,720 --> 01:02:06,560 Speaker 1: an email from HR being like, hey, so we called 1308 01:02:06,600 --> 01:02:12,680 Speaker 1: Seneca and I was like, oh, no, ps, they're saying 1309 01:02:12,720 --> 01:02:15,960 Speaker 1: that you didn't graduate, um, that you're missing one credit, 1310 01:02:16,120 --> 01:02:18,680 Speaker 1: cared to explain, and I was just like yeah, totally. 1311 01:02:18,720 --> 01:02:21,840 Speaker 1: My dad didn't think it was that big of a deal. Like, 1312 01:02:21,840 --> 01:02:24,880 Speaker 1: like I said, signed contracts, everything signed, feel delivered. You 1313 01:02:24,920 --> 01:02:27,360 Speaker 1: already have like my direct deposit ready to go virganuary 1314 01:02:27,360 --> 01:02:29,160 Speaker 1: oh one, Like I already know where I'm sitting in 1315 01:02:29,160 --> 01:02:33,400 Speaker 1: the office. So bad mistake by me, lazy mistake by me, 1316 01:02:33,600 --> 01:02:35,200 Speaker 1: just like kind of thinking that this was not going 1317 01:02:35,240 --> 01:02:38,120 Speaker 1: to be a big deal because I didn't I already 1318 01:02:38,120 --> 01:02:39,360 Speaker 1: had the job. I really didn't think that they were 1319 01:02:39,360 --> 01:02:41,200 Speaker 1: going to look into my past at all, minus like 1320 01:02:41,240 --> 01:02:44,320 Speaker 1: maybe a what you call it a criminal record, which 1321 01:02:44,320 --> 01:02:48,280 Speaker 1: I cleared I used. I'm a perfect person. Um but uh, 1322 01:02:48,400 --> 01:02:50,240 Speaker 1: and so I was just like, oh my gosh, this 1323 01:02:50,240 --> 01:02:53,520 Speaker 1: this is that like I didn't even know at that time. 1324 01:02:53,560 --> 01:02:55,760 Speaker 1: I was like, yeah, sorry, I didn't pass. I'm missing 1325 01:02:55,760 --> 01:02:58,440 Speaker 1: one credit. Here's my transcript something my transcript which was 1326 01:02:58,440 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: showing that I was only missing one and I was like, 1327 01:03:00,760 --> 01:03:03,080 Speaker 1: totally my bad. Um. You know, I can talk to 1328 01:03:03,160 --> 01:03:05,560 Speaker 1: anybody who wants to to explain the situation, but I 1329 01:03:05,560 --> 01:03:07,280 Speaker 1: really don't think it's a big of you know, I'm 1330 01:03:07,320 --> 01:03:09,280 Speaker 1: going to go back to Africa and enjoy this time 1331 01:03:09,320 --> 01:03:10,960 Speaker 1: off that I have before I started crazy new job. 1332 01:03:11,320 --> 01:03:14,400 Speaker 1: And even what would have been my boss, Cam and 1333 01:03:14,440 --> 01:03:15,880 Speaker 1: I were talking. He's like, yeah, sorry, you have to 1334 01:03:15,880 --> 01:03:18,200 Speaker 1: deal like you know it's and I was like, I'm 1335 01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,960 Speaker 1: sorry that I had made this MS, but I'm gonna 1336 01:03:21,040 --> 01:03:23,280 Speaker 1: go back to what I was doing, still not really 1337 01:03:23,320 --> 01:03:26,120 Speaker 1: worrying about it. And then I got a phone call, 1338 01:03:26,560 --> 01:03:29,120 Speaker 1: maybe like twenty four hours later, and he's just like, 1339 01:03:29,200 --> 01:03:32,840 Speaker 1: are you sitting down house. I was like, oh, in Africa. 1340 01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:35,360 Speaker 1: He called me in Africa and was like are you 1341 01:03:35,360 --> 01:03:38,840 Speaker 1: sitting down? And ilse just like I am now and 1342 01:03:38,880 --> 01:03:43,160 Speaker 1: he's just like hr at ESPN. I guess because they 1343 01:03:43,200 --> 01:03:46,320 Speaker 1: are by the book something's happened in their past or whatever, 1344 01:03:47,680 --> 01:03:50,640 Speaker 1: or because it's owned by such a big company, Disney. Um, 1345 01:03:50,720 --> 01:03:54,280 Speaker 1: they are black and white. By the book, nothing can 1346 01:03:54,360 --> 01:03:56,920 Speaker 1: be off even after we've sent you the contract, everything 1347 01:03:56,920 --> 01:04:00,000 Speaker 1: sign feel delivered. Nothing can be false on your records. 1348 01:04:00,120 --> 01:04:02,520 Speaker 1: And because you put that you graduated, we have to 1349 01:04:02,520 --> 01:04:08,160 Speaker 1: revoke your offer. I'm in the middle of nowhere on 1350 01:04:08,240 --> 01:04:11,920 Speaker 1: the phone with somebody from New York City telling me 1351 01:04:12,000 --> 01:04:14,160 Speaker 1: that when I get back from Africa, I do not 1352 01:04:14,280 --> 01:04:18,120 Speaker 1: have a job. And so I was devastated. I was 1353 01:04:18,200 --> 01:04:21,440 Speaker 1: absolutely devastated. I was just like, all this hard work 1354 01:04:21,840 --> 01:04:26,200 Speaker 1: that I have been kicking my own ask for is 1355 01:04:26,240 --> 01:04:29,960 Speaker 1: down the drain because I wrote something on a piece 1356 01:04:30,000 --> 01:04:33,360 Speaker 1: of paper that I didn't put enough thought into, and 1357 01:04:33,560 --> 01:04:35,280 Speaker 1: I was thinking. I was like, oh my god, they're 1358 01:04:35,280 --> 01:04:37,200 Speaker 1: gonna take away my visa. I'm gonna have to move 1359 01:04:37,200 --> 01:04:39,080 Speaker 1: back in with my mom. I'm gonna have no way 1360 01:04:39,120 --> 01:04:41,360 Speaker 1: to make money. I've already said goodbye to everybody. I've 1361 01:04:41,360 --> 01:04:43,600 Speaker 1: already told everyone I'm going to ESPN what the hell 1362 01:04:43,640 --> 01:04:46,760 Speaker 1: am I going to do? And thankfully that that what 1363 01:04:46,800 --> 01:04:50,840 Speaker 1: would have been my boss. He was very understanding and apologetic. 1364 01:04:51,040 --> 01:04:52,720 Speaker 1: He was just like, I am so sorry that this 1365 01:04:52,760 --> 01:04:54,760 Speaker 1: is happening. This is insane. I've talked to everybody that 1366 01:04:54,800 --> 01:04:58,040 Speaker 1: there is to talk to, but this is the final stance. 1367 01:04:58,480 --> 01:05:00,320 Speaker 1: This is what we gotta do. And he was it's like, 1368 01:05:00,400 --> 01:05:01,760 Speaker 1: I will talk to people at box, I'll talk to 1369 01:05:01,760 --> 01:05:04,760 Speaker 1: people at MLS. Whatever you need to get those offers 1370 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:06,600 Speaker 1: back on the table, Like I will really help you out. 1371 01:05:06,880 --> 01:05:10,080 Speaker 1: So did you call from Africa? How did like? So 1372 01:05:10,200 --> 01:05:12,880 Speaker 1: you hang up with that guy? You? Uh? And by 1373 01:05:12,920 --> 01:05:14,720 Speaker 1: the way, I'm Clay Travis is for Rachel ban Ada. 1374 01:05:14,720 --> 01:05:16,720 Speaker 1: You're listening to Winds and Losses, you hang up the 1375 01:05:16,720 --> 01:05:18,640 Speaker 1: phone and you do what when you're in Africa and 1376 01:05:18,680 --> 01:05:22,360 Speaker 1: you get that info? Cried, cried, and I think drank 1377 01:05:22,360 --> 01:05:25,240 Speaker 1: a beer because I was in shock. I was like, 1378 01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:26,840 Speaker 1: oh my god, I didn't even know that this could happen. 1379 01:05:27,840 --> 01:05:31,200 Speaker 1: Um and uh, I don't know what. I called my 1380 01:05:31,360 --> 01:05:33,439 Speaker 1: mom right away. I think I called my agent because 1381 01:05:33,440 --> 01:05:35,440 Speaker 1: I was just like, uh, and I had to explain 1382 01:05:35,480 --> 01:05:39,040 Speaker 1: to him when it happened, which explaining it was just embarrassing, 1383 01:05:39,120 --> 01:05:41,640 Speaker 1: Like I was like, this is such a stupid mistake 1384 01:05:41,720 --> 01:05:44,200 Speaker 1: on my part, Like it was just it was dumb. 1385 01:05:44,240 --> 01:05:47,040 Speaker 1: And I was starting to really be self conscious because 1386 01:05:47,040 --> 01:05:49,680 Speaker 1: I was like, wait, a sect, these people are gonna 1387 01:05:49,680 --> 01:05:51,920 Speaker 1: start thinking that I'm a liar like that I was 1388 01:05:52,040 --> 01:05:56,360 Speaker 1: trying to fib about like, you know, what happened at school, 1389 01:05:56,400 --> 01:05:59,200 Speaker 1: and that I was trying to pretend that I've asked. 1390 01:06:00,040 --> 01:06:01,560 Speaker 1: And so I had explained all this to my agent 1391 01:06:01,600 --> 01:06:03,919 Speaker 1: and he was just like Jesus, what did I sign 1392 01:06:04,000 --> 01:06:06,360 Speaker 1: up for? So that he immediately put out calls to 1393 01:06:06,400 --> 01:06:13,040 Speaker 1: Fox Sports and MLS. Thankfully, after some you know, massaging. Again, 1394 01:06:13,080 --> 01:06:14,760 Speaker 1: I had to tell everyone what happened, had to tell 1395 01:06:14,800 --> 01:06:16,880 Speaker 1: him LS what happened, had to tell Fox Sports what happened. Like, 1396 01:06:16,920 --> 01:06:19,240 Speaker 1: I was devastated. I was like, people are going to 1397 01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:22,439 Speaker 1: start questioning my character. This is by far the worst 1398 01:06:22,480 --> 01:06:25,640 Speaker 1: thing that's ever happened in my career. Still to this 1399 01:06:25,720 --> 01:06:29,760 Speaker 1: day gives me divers um. And uh, you know, I've 1400 01:06:29,880 --> 01:06:32,800 Speaker 1: I've never been one to get into trouble. I'm not 1401 01:06:32,880 --> 01:06:35,080 Speaker 1: that kind of I'm like a goody two shots minus 1402 01:06:35,080 --> 01:06:36,640 Speaker 1: the one time I got suspended in high school. It's 1403 01:06:36,640 --> 01:06:41,280 Speaker 1: a different story every day. Um we're talking about there. 1404 01:06:42,120 --> 01:06:44,880 Speaker 1: It was I, uh, this was like the first time 1405 01:06:44,920 --> 01:06:46,360 Speaker 1: that I ever felt like I was in trouble. Was like, 1406 01:06:46,360 --> 01:06:49,000 Speaker 1: oh my god. And uh so they put out a 1407 01:06:49,040 --> 01:06:51,360 Speaker 1: bunch of calls to people that knew me, that had 1408 01:06:51,400 --> 01:06:53,400 Speaker 1: worked with me before, and they were like, you know, 1409 01:06:53,400 --> 01:06:56,640 Speaker 1: as Rachel Shady, like what should we think about this? 1410 01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,560 Speaker 1: And they're like, oh my god, no, she's hard working. 1411 01:06:59,600 --> 01:07:01,840 Speaker 1: That like basically everything that I've told you about my career, 1412 01:07:01,920 --> 01:07:04,040 Speaker 1: people very much vouched for me, and they were like, 1413 01:07:04,080 --> 01:07:06,880 Speaker 1: this is a mistake. You need to hire this girl 1414 01:07:07,080 --> 01:07:12,120 Speaker 1: a sap And thankfully Fox Sports uh came back and 1415 01:07:12,120 --> 01:07:14,640 Speaker 1: they're like, we still really want you, and and even 1416 01:07:14,720 --> 01:07:17,240 Speaker 1: up to their offer in the first place, which was insane, 1417 01:07:17,320 --> 01:07:20,080 Speaker 1: like sinisoun heard of if anything, they would say any 1418 01:07:20,160 --> 01:07:22,840 Speaker 1: any other company would probably offer less because you could 1419 01:07:23,160 --> 01:07:26,440 Speaker 1: would have gone there for ten bucks um. And so 1420 01:07:26,480 --> 01:07:28,440 Speaker 1: I was like, yes it yes, fun for the yests. 1421 01:07:28,480 --> 01:07:29,600 Speaker 1: I wanted to sign with you in the first place. 1422 01:07:29,600 --> 01:07:31,880 Speaker 1: Oh my god, yes, I says a Jest signed Field. 1423 01:07:32,240 --> 01:07:34,840 Speaker 1: Fluid was like, looked. I had to tell all this 1424 01:07:34,880 --> 01:07:37,040 Speaker 1: to my boyfriend too. I was just like, I'm not 1425 01:07:37,160 --> 01:07:40,280 Speaker 1: gonna be living here in a week because everything happened 1426 01:07:40,320 --> 01:07:41,800 Speaker 1: so fast. I had to get rid of my apartment. 1427 01:07:41,840 --> 01:07:42,720 Speaker 1: I had to go to l A. I had to 1428 01:07:42,720 --> 01:07:44,560 Speaker 1: find an apartment. I had no money at the time, 1429 01:07:44,560 --> 01:07:47,439 Speaker 1: saved for a big cross country move like that, because 1430 01:07:47,440 --> 01:07:49,920 Speaker 1: I assumed that I was saying in New York, um, 1431 01:07:50,120 --> 01:07:53,080 Speaker 1: and I was just like, we gotta break up. I'm 1432 01:07:53,120 --> 01:07:55,840 Speaker 1: moving to l A. And this is devastating and but 1433 01:07:56,000 --> 01:07:58,520 Speaker 1: my career is number one and I gotta go. And 1434 01:07:58,600 --> 01:08:03,120 Speaker 1: so UM, I moved to l A and started working 1435 01:08:03,160 --> 01:08:06,680 Speaker 1: with Fox Sports and started working on their digital team, 1436 01:08:06,800 --> 01:08:12,959 Speaker 1: and um, they've been absolutely mind boggling incredible. In fact, 1437 01:08:13,000 --> 01:08:17,720 Speaker 1: I've resigned a new contract just about every single year 1438 01:08:17,760 --> 01:08:20,040 Speaker 1: that I've been here because they keep on making they 1439 01:08:20,400 --> 01:08:22,599 Speaker 1: they kept on making my role bigger and bigger. At 1440 01:08:22,600 --> 01:08:24,320 Speaker 1: first I signed on to do a digital thing, and 1441 01:08:24,320 --> 01:08:26,040 Speaker 1: then I signed on to do digital TV, and then 1442 01:08:26,080 --> 01:08:28,160 Speaker 1: I signed on to do digital and even more TV, 1443 01:08:28,280 --> 01:08:30,599 Speaker 1: and now I'm a full TV contract. Like they've just 1444 01:08:30,680 --> 01:08:34,120 Speaker 1: believed in me and pushed me. And I mean that 1445 01:08:34,120 --> 01:08:36,120 Speaker 1: that's insane. I've signed a new contract basically every single 1446 01:08:36,200 --> 01:08:37,840 Speaker 1: year that I've been here because my role just keeps 1447 01:08:37,840 --> 01:08:41,000 Speaker 1: on changing. Um. So, who went to bat for you 1448 01:08:41,040 --> 01:08:45,680 Speaker 1: at Fox? Um, Matt Schneider who ended up hiring me. 1449 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,920 Speaker 1: And now it's one of my really good friends who 1450 01:08:48,000 --> 01:08:49,720 Speaker 1: is a good guy, and I hope he's listening here. 1451 01:08:49,800 --> 01:08:55,920 Speaker 1: So so he would that great higher, great Higher now 1452 01:08:55,960 --> 01:08:59,479 Speaker 1: at the NFL network. Yeah. And uh and Scott Riddell, 1453 01:08:59,479 --> 01:09:01,120 Speaker 1: who's still a reducer at Fox Sports. He was the 1454 01:09:01,160 --> 01:09:02,920 Speaker 1: one that kind of called around to a couple of people. 1455 01:09:02,960 --> 01:09:05,519 Speaker 1: Him and I were friendly, and he's just like, I 1456 01:09:05,640 --> 01:09:07,640 Speaker 1: know you're not this person, but I am going to 1457 01:09:07,760 --> 01:09:10,160 Speaker 1: go call some people that you've worked with and just 1458 01:09:10,240 --> 01:09:13,960 Speaker 1: kind of get an over, you know, more people who 1459 01:09:13,960 --> 01:09:15,559 Speaker 1: have your back. And so he called a ton of 1460 01:09:15,560 --> 01:09:18,280 Speaker 1: people and we're like, yes, hire her, yes, hire her, 1461 01:09:18,360 --> 01:09:20,400 Speaker 1: yes higher. So he could bring that to Schneider and 1462 01:09:20,439 --> 01:09:22,160 Speaker 1: be like, there's so many people vouching for her, like 1463 01:09:22,320 --> 01:09:25,759 Speaker 1: we need we need this girl. Um and and madel 1464 01:09:25,880 --> 01:09:27,719 Speaker 1: is also an awesome guy, by the way, and both 1465 01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,160 Speaker 1: of them, when we'll get to this in a minute. 1466 01:09:30,160 --> 01:09:32,600 Speaker 1: When walk it In happened, they immediately called me and 1467 01:09:32,640 --> 01:09:37,040 Speaker 1: they're like, you're gonna absolutely love working with Rachel. She's fantastic. 1468 01:09:37,600 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 1: Um And So, but did you think going back to 1469 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,080 Speaker 1: that Africa when you get that call, did you think, like, 1470 01:09:42,160 --> 01:09:47,720 Speaker 1: my career is over? Oh? I remember sitting out. We 1471 01:09:47,720 --> 01:09:49,599 Speaker 1: would wake up early early because we were going into 1472 01:09:49,640 --> 01:09:52,640 Speaker 1: these really small villages that were like hours away. I 1473 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:54,439 Speaker 1: remember sitting out at three thirty in the morning. We 1474 01:09:54,479 --> 01:09:57,320 Speaker 1: were getting our car packed and I was like three 1475 01:09:57,400 --> 01:10:01,720 Speaker 1: or four and the early morning prayer was happening, and 1476 01:10:01,760 --> 01:10:04,760 Speaker 1: so I remember sitting Maybes later on the day, I 1477 01:10:04,760 --> 01:10:08,479 Speaker 1: was remember sitting on the stoop listening to this prayer 1478 01:10:09,040 --> 01:10:12,560 Speaker 1: being just like shouted into one of just like sirens 1479 01:10:12,560 --> 01:10:15,559 Speaker 1: all over, just being echoed all over, and just looking 1480 01:10:15,560 --> 01:10:18,920 Speaker 1: into like this guy and being like it's over. I'm done. 1481 01:10:19,280 --> 01:10:23,000 Speaker 1: I'm gonna help to go home and face the music. 1482 01:10:23,160 --> 01:10:25,679 Speaker 1: And I've really messed up this time and I need 1483 01:10:25,720 --> 01:10:28,640 Speaker 1: to grow up. And I was just really angry at 1484 01:10:28,680 --> 01:10:31,320 Speaker 1: myself because at that point, I was just like, this 1485 01:10:31,360 --> 01:10:34,519 Speaker 1: was an incredible experience. Now with the what am I 1486 01:10:34,560 --> 01:10:37,960 Speaker 1: gonna do? What which path am I on? Now? Like 1487 01:10:38,800 --> 01:10:40,880 Speaker 1: I just had no idea what was in store, and 1488 01:10:40,920 --> 01:10:43,680 Speaker 1: I had no idea that Fox was gonna put the 1489 01:10:43,720 --> 01:10:47,200 Speaker 1: offer back on the table. Thank thank god. I was 1490 01:10:47,240 --> 01:10:49,240 Speaker 1: just like, thank you so much. I would absolutely love 1491 01:10:49,320 --> 01:10:51,599 Speaker 1: to take this, but I'm going to go with option 1492 01:10:51,680 --> 01:10:53,679 Speaker 1: A because A, B, and C and I was actually 1493 01:10:53,840 --> 01:10:56,320 Speaker 1: Matt Niner the one that I turned down, and I 1494 01:10:56,320 --> 01:10:58,920 Speaker 1: think he understood. I was just like, I need to 1495 01:10:58,920 --> 01:11:00,920 Speaker 1: stay here. I've got a new boyfriend. I'm close to 1496 01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:02,760 Speaker 1: my family. My dad passed away a few years ago. 1497 01:11:02,800 --> 01:11:06,120 Speaker 1: I still need to be close to them. Um, YadA, YadA, YadA. 1498 01:11:06,120 --> 01:11:07,880 Speaker 1: And he was super understanding in the first place. I'm 1499 01:11:07,880 --> 01:11:09,240 Speaker 1: so glad that him and I had such a great 1500 01:11:09,240 --> 01:11:12,240 Speaker 1: connection because it was easier for me to call back 1501 01:11:12,280 --> 01:11:15,040 Speaker 1: and be like, hey, so this is what happened. Please 1502 01:11:15,040 --> 01:11:17,240 Speaker 1: take me back. So what do you do with Fox? 1503 01:11:19,400 --> 01:11:22,960 Speaker 1: You have Fox? Yeah? Started your digital videos, right, Yeah. 1504 01:11:23,000 --> 01:11:25,519 Speaker 1: I started working at this thing called at the Buzzer. 1505 01:11:25,760 --> 01:11:29,719 Speaker 1: So it was like any video of a guy getting 1506 01:11:29,760 --> 01:11:33,280 Speaker 1: like a softball to the nads, we would be like, 1507 01:11:33,400 --> 01:11:37,519 Speaker 1: oh my god, check out this viral video. Then maybe 1508 01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:39,760 Speaker 1: like thirty second things that we would Sometimes it would 1509 01:11:39,760 --> 01:11:41,720 Speaker 1: be like during commercials they would roll on Fox, So 1510 01:11:41,760 --> 01:11:44,320 Speaker 1: I was getting on TV in that way. But usually 1511 01:11:44,320 --> 01:11:46,280 Speaker 1: it was just like videos, like viral videos that we 1512 01:11:46,320 --> 01:11:49,559 Speaker 1: would put back out on Twitter. Um. But that ended 1513 01:11:49,600 --> 01:11:52,320 Speaker 1: about like a year after it got canceled a year 1514 01:11:52,360 --> 01:11:55,240 Speaker 1: after I started with Fox, and they're like, we still 1515 01:11:55,280 --> 01:11:59,040 Speaker 1: really want to use you, so we're gonna keep you around. 1516 01:11:59,120 --> 01:12:02,800 Speaker 1: You're gonna still do more digital videos, but we're gonna 1517 01:12:02,840 --> 01:12:04,960 Speaker 1: keep you in the soccer space. So that's kind of 1518 01:12:04,960 --> 01:12:08,000 Speaker 1: when I veered off at Fox and started doing like 1519 01:12:08,160 --> 01:12:12,439 Speaker 1: only soccer um And so I was doing soccer digital 1520 01:12:12,520 --> 01:12:15,080 Speaker 1: like literally up until last year, like last summer when 1521 01:12:15,080 --> 01:12:16,840 Speaker 1: I got locked in. I had just gotten back from 1522 01:12:17,000 --> 01:12:19,400 Speaker 1: the World Cup in Russia. So we'll get to that 1523 01:12:19,400 --> 01:12:21,080 Speaker 1: in a second. But so you and I meet for 1524 01:12:21,120 --> 01:12:23,960 Speaker 1: the first time that I remember at the Fox super 1525 01:12:24,000 --> 01:12:25,920 Speaker 1: Bowl party because you had done what did you do? 1526 01:12:25,960 --> 01:12:28,960 Speaker 1: Like a Lady Gaga video? Yeah, I wrote a sketch 1527 01:12:29,120 --> 01:12:31,599 Speaker 1: that they were actually gonna put in the pre show, uh, 1528 01:12:31,640 --> 01:12:33,759 Speaker 1: the night before the super Bowl, which was like still insane, 1529 01:12:33,800 --> 01:12:36,880 Speaker 1: it's crazy, uh, And so I wrote a sketch. So 1530 01:12:36,960 --> 01:12:38,960 Speaker 1: I was going for that, and then we were also 1531 01:12:39,000 --> 01:12:40,640 Speaker 1: just like going to go shoot some fun stuff for 1532 01:12:40,880 --> 01:12:42,720 Speaker 1: that was a beautiful thing about digital. It's just like, 1533 01:12:43,040 --> 01:12:45,479 Speaker 1: let's just go hang out, let's make some videos, let's 1534 01:12:45,479 --> 01:12:47,240 Speaker 1: put them up on Facebook and they'll probably get insane 1535 01:12:47,240 --> 01:12:49,120 Speaker 1: amount of views because that was just like the Facebook 1536 01:12:49,160 --> 01:12:51,479 Speaker 1: algorithm at the time, and and on Twitter and stuff 1537 01:12:51,479 --> 01:12:53,240 Speaker 1: like that too. So I went there and then I 1538 01:12:53,280 --> 01:12:55,880 Speaker 1: was also I did some stuff for Garbage Time for 1539 01:12:56,000 --> 01:12:59,000 Speaker 1: Kan Nolan Show, which was super fun. Uh, and so 1540 01:12:59,280 --> 01:13:01,479 Speaker 1: branching it. That was like the first time that my 1541 01:13:01,560 --> 01:13:05,360 Speaker 1: current boss, now Charlie, our crew boss, was just like, Hey, 1542 01:13:05,400 --> 01:13:07,000 Speaker 1: we want to start getting you more on TV. So 1543 01:13:07,040 --> 01:13:08,640 Speaker 1: you're gonna come to the super Bowl, You're gonna do 1544 01:13:08,640 --> 01:13:10,320 Speaker 1: garbage time, You're gonna do a couple of hits for them. 1545 01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:13,919 Speaker 1: And I was just like, okay, let's do it. Um. 1546 01:13:14,000 --> 01:13:16,640 Speaker 1: So yeah, constantly just like putting me in situations so 1547 01:13:16,760 --> 01:13:19,320 Speaker 1: we're terrifying. But that made me grow so much in 1548 01:13:19,360 --> 01:13:21,559 Speaker 1: the process over the last two years. All right, so 1549 01:13:21,680 --> 01:13:25,599 Speaker 1: then you like do what like so you you had 1550 01:13:26,040 --> 01:13:28,519 Speaker 1: you set in for Cowherd a couple of times, like 1551 01:13:28,600 --> 01:13:31,280 Speaker 1: as as Fox starts to think, okay, maybe this girl 1552 01:13:31,320 --> 01:13:34,160 Speaker 1: can be on television. You said earlier you wanted to 1553 01:13:34,200 --> 01:13:37,519 Speaker 1: be an acting and actress and things like that. Were 1554 01:13:37,520 --> 01:13:40,400 Speaker 1: you doing any kind of any kind of things in 1555 01:13:40,439 --> 01:13:42,920 Speaker 1: that respect? And I think probably this is a long question, 1556 01:13:43,080 --> 01:13:45,519 Speaker 1: but people who have listened and are listening now can 1557 01:13:45,520 --> 01:13:47,840 Speaker 1: tell you're quick. Right, Like you said, you do a 1558 01:13:47,920 --> 01:13:51,840 Speaker 1: lot of improv but you think and talk rapidly, which 1559 01:13:51,960 --> 01:13:55,960 Speaker 1: is which is obviously good for unscripted television. What were 1560 01:13:56,000 --> 01:13:58,519 Speaker 1: you doing, like, what was the transition point from video 1561 01:13:58,560 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: to television. I is a part time student. Basically I 1562 01:14:02,000 --> 01:14:04,360 Speaker 1: was in class four times a week, whether it was 1563 01:14:04,400 --> 01:14:06,600 Speaker 1: like straight up acting class or improv classes that I 1564 01:14:06,640 --> 01:14:08,400 Speaker 1: was taking at ground Links, which is like ground Links 1565 01:14:08,520 --> 01:14:10,760 Speaker 1: is home to so many s and l alums like 1566 01:14:10,840 --> 01:14:15,519 Speaker 1: You've got Will Ferrell, Melissa McCarthy, Kristen Wiggs just to 1567 01:14:15,600 --> 01:14:17,640 Speaker 1: name a few, like Phewee Herman went there. So it 1568 01:14:17,680 --> 01:14:19,960 Speaker 1: was it's like the ultimate school for comedy in l A. 1569 01:14:20,800 --> 01:14:23,599 Speaker 1: So I was going to that taking uh, like straight 1570 01:14:23,680 --> 01:14:26,160 Speaker 1: up acting classes and just like really fully immersing myself 1571 01:14:26,200 --> 01:14:28,760 Speaker 1: into the creative process, which was all all helping with 1572 01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:30,439 Speaker 1: all of the comedy sketches that I was writing for 1573 01:14:30,479 --> 01:14:33,840 Speaker 1: the Fox digital side as well. UM. And as I 1574 01:14:33,920 --> 01:14:36,280 Speaker 1: was starting to do more comedy sketches like this has 1575 01:14:36,320 --> 01:14:39,200 Speaker 1: just been a trend in my career, like doing more 1576 01:14:39,400 --> 01:14:43,960 Speaker 1: creative stuff and putting it out there, I started getting UM. 1577 01:14:44,000 --> 01:14:47,240 Speaker 1: I started getting meetings with people on the studio side, 1578 01:14:47,280 --> 01:14:49,240 Speaker 1: on the TV side, and they're like, who are you, 1579 01:14:49,920 --> 01:14:53,240 Speaker 1: what are you doing, where did you come from, and 1580 01:14:53,280 --> 01:14:55,840 Speaker 1: how do we get you to do more? So it 1581 01:14:56,000 --> 01:14:59,240 Speaker 1: was UM I've always said over the past few years, 1582 01:14:59,240 --> 01:15:02,040 Speaker 1: as like I've develop a deep Fox from the beginning. 1583 01:15:02,120 --> 01:15:04,080 Speaker 1: I want to grow up here. I want to grow 1584 01:15:04,360 --> 01:15:06,920 Speaker 1: and become whoever I'm supposed to be at Fox, because 1585 01:15:06,920 --> 01:15:10,920 Speaker 1: they're so nurturing and so patient, and we'll we'll let 1586 01:15:10,920 --> 01:15:13,320 Speaker 1: you make a mistake, uh, and we'll let you grow 1587 01:15:13,720 --> 01:15:15,840 Speaker 1: in your space. And I feel like so many times 1588 01:15:15,920 --> 01:15:17,960 Speaker 1: people are like it not doing so good, let's grab 1589 01:15:17,960 --> 01:15:19,680 Speaker 1: her off, and they let me squirm and kind of 1590 01:15:19,680 --> 01:15:22,200 Speaker 1: figure it out myself, which I'm so thankful for. UM. 1591 01:15:22,240 --> 01:15:23,679 Speaker 1: But it was it was just a lot of meetings 1592 01:15:23,800 --> 01:15:25,240 Speaker 1: and sometimes I would get a chance. I remember the 1593 01:15:25,240 --> 01:15:29,479 Speaker 1: first time I filled in for on Coward Show, Chris 1594 01:15:29,560 --> 01:15:33,320 Speaker 1: Carter and Nick Wright. We're doing like a test run 1595 01:15:33,360 --> 01:15:36,320 Speaker 1: for their show that was being developed, and so they 1596 01:15:36,360 --> 01:15:38,640 Speaker 1: were filling in, so it wasn't even the herd. It 1597 01:15:38,760 --> 01:15:41,799 Speaker 1: was a three man team. And maybe they were testing 1598 01:15:41,840 --> 01:15:43,840 Speaker 1: me for to host that show as well, although that 1599 01:15:43,920 --> 01:15:46,040 Speaker 1: was pretty surely on. I don't think they were doing that. 1600 01:15:46,520 --> 01:15:51,080 Speaker 1: UM and I bombed, Oh my gosh, I bombed so hard. 1601 01:15:51,200 --> 01:15:53,280 Speaker 1: I could not figure it out because it was the 1602 01:15:53,320 --> 01:15:56,080 Speaker 1: first time I was on television and then in the US, 1603 01:15:56,920 --> 01:15:59,400 Speaker 1: and I remember somebody came out. I kept on screwing 1604 01:15:59,479 --> 01:16:01,599 Speaker 1: up because I was doing what would have been Christine 1605 01:16:01,640 --> 01:16:02,960 Speaker 1: like he's role at the times to just like the 1606 01:16:03,000 --> 01:16:07,000 Speaker 1: news updates, and there was like a um, you know, 1607 01:16:07,720 --> 01:16:09,800 Speaker 1: Colin would be like okay, and over to Christine with 1608 01:16:09,800 --> 01:16:11,720 Speaker 1: the news, and then there was like a doo doo 1609 01:16:11,720 --> 01:16:15,040 Speaker 1: doo dooo, like a musical thing, and I would never 1610 01:16:15,040 --> 01:16:17,280 Speaker 1: stop for the musical thing. I'd be like, Okay, the 1611 01:16:17,400 --> 01:16:19,720 Speaker 1: net of the day is And I did that like 1612 01:16:19,800 --> 01:16:25,679 Speaker 1: four times in a row, over talking over the music. 1613 01:16:25,800 --> 01:16:28,439 Speaker 1: You can't even hear what I'm saying anyways, and I'm like, oh, 1614 01:16:28,600 --> 01:16:31,000 Speaker 1: I just kept on forgetting about it. And I was 1615 01:16:31,040 --> 01:16:33,760 Speaker 1: also so nervous, and I remember somebody coming out I'd 1616 01:16:33,760 --> 01:16:36,720 Speaker 1: done it twice, somebody and I had a third hit 1617 01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:38,640 Speaker 1: in the show. Somebody came out and was just like, 1618 01:16:39,160 --> 01:16:41,800 Speaker 1: he screwed this up twice, don't take it three for three. 1619 01:16:43,520 --> 01:16:46,599 Speaker 1: And I was like, oh my god, I'm fired. I'm 1620 01:16:46,600 --> 01:16:49,320 Speaker 1: fired from a job. I don't even have um And 1621 01:16:49,360 --> 01:16:51,320 Speaker 1: it was just a bad day. I did you screw 1622 01:16:51,360 --> 01:16:52,560 Speaker 1: it up the third time or did you get it 1623 01:16:52,640 --> 01:16:54,000 Speaker 1: right on the third chap? I think I got it 1624 01:16:54,080 --> 01:16:56,559 Speaker 1: right for the third time, thankfully, but Chris and Nick 1625 01:16:56,600 --> 01:17:00,519 Speaker 1: were probably like, who is why were we up with her? 1626 01:17:00,560 --> 01:17:04,320 Speaker 1: Where's Christine? Uh? And so it was a while. It 1627 01:17:04,360 --> 01:17:06,160 Speaker 1: was it was a while where I was back on TV. 1628 01:17:07,240 --> 01:17:08,360 Speaker 1: Gave me a second to figure it out on the 1629 01:17:08,439 --> 01:17:12,000 Speaker 1: digital side. Um. But then uh, I just started feeling 1630 01:17:12,000 --> 01:17:16,440 Speaker 1: in like randomly, randomly here and there, uh for Christine 1631 01:17:16,680 --> 01:17:18,599 Speaker 1: and I actually got to sit in with Colin one time, 1632 01:17:18,680 --> 01:17:21,080 Speaker 1: then another couple of times. It was like Doug Gottlieb 1633 01:17:21,080 --> 01:17:24,280 Speaker 1: who fills in for calling sometimes. And then uh, I 1634 01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:26,639 Speaker 1: think the kicker was going away to the World Cup, 1635 01:17:27,120 --> 01:17:28,439 Speaker 1: and I was doing a lot of TV at the 1636 01:17:28,479 --> 01:17:31,360 Speaker 1: World Cup because we had so um, we had so 1637 01:17:31,400 --> 01:17:33,519 Speaker 1: many different programs happening. We had Tonight Show, we had 1638 01:17:33,520 --> 01:17:36,639 Speaker 1: a daily show, I had my digital show, which very 1639 01:17:36,720 --> 01:17:39,160 Speaker 1: much felt and looked like a television show. I was 1640 01:17:39,200 --> 01:17:43,320 Speaker 1: reading off prompter and we were doing it live and yeada, YadA, YadA. 1641 01:17:44,400 --> 01:17:50,080 Speaker 1: Oh my god, no, just once, I've been to Germany. 1642 01:17:50,439 --> 01:17:53,320 Speaker 1: Just that's it. So that's a big deal for people 1643 01:17:53,360 --> 01:17:55,759 Speaker 1: who don't realize you went over to Russia. The US 1644 01:17:55,880 --> 01:18:00,040 Speaker 1: misses the World Cup, which is like just devastating to 1645 01:18:00,120 --> 01:18:02,760 Speaker 1: be so bad. Where were you when the US got 1646 01:18:02,760 --> 01:18:05,000 Speaker 1: beat by Trinidad into Artago. I think it was right 1647 01:18:05,040 --> 01:18:09,240 Speaker 1: where Um. I was at a bar. We were doing 1648 01:18:09,240 --> 01:18:11,240 Speaker 1: a live stream we were doing I was doing a 1649 01:18:11,240 --> 01:18:13,280 Speaker 1: lot of soccer covers even leading up to the World Cup. 1650 01:18:13,320 --> 01:18:15,000 Speaker 1: We had like a pre show in a post show 1651 01:18:15,000 --> 01:18:18,240 Speaker 1: anytime the US had a qualifier. So I was at 1652 01:18:18,240 --> 01:18:20,360 Speaker 1: a bar and we had to go live seconds after 1653 01:18:20,840 --> 01:18:24,639 Speaker 1: they had gotten knocked out when I was just stew Holden, 1654 01:18:24,680 --> 01:18:26,600 Speaker 1: who used to be on the national team. He is 1655 01:18:26,640 --> 01:18:29,960 Speaker 1: an analyst for FS one now and calls crazy games 1656 01:18:29,960 --> 01:18:33,519 Speaker 1: like the World Cup final on Fox, and um him 1657 01:18:33,560 --> 01:18:36,320 Speaker 1: and I just had to like go through this fifteen 1658 01:18:36,400 --> 01:18:39,559 Speaker 1: twenty minute live show of being like, Okay, so the 1659 01:18:39,640 --> 01:18:42,040 Speaker 1: US is in the World Cup, but we're still going 1660 01:18:42,080 --> 01:18:43,640 Speaker 1: to the World Cup. We're gonna be in Russia in 1661 01:18:43,680 --> 01:18:46,519 Speaker 1: the summer. And it was just like a weird It was. 1662 01:18:46,600 --> 01:18:49,000 Speaker 1: It was a weird balance of like being excited and 1663 01:18:49,479 --> 01:18:52,880 Speaker 1: being sympathetic to all the American people watching that they 1664 01:18:52,880 --> 01:18:54,680 Speaker 1: didn't just make it into the World Cup. So um 1665 01:18:54,880 --> 01:18:57,519 Speaker 1: so I covered it every second leading up to it 1666 01:18:57,600 --> 01:18:59,360 Speaker 1: and then was there for the actual thing, which was 1667 01:18:59,360 --> 01:19:02,559 Speaker 1: pretty incredib ball, so it was incredible for everybody who 1668 01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,960 Speaker 1: watched it you also ended up hospitalized. What happened there? Um, 1669 01:19:07,000 --> 01:19:09,720 Speaker 1: I woke up. We were working insane hours, like I 1670 01:19:09,760 --> 01:19:11,559 Speaker 1: was doing my show like I mentioned, and then I 1671 01:19:11,600 --> 01:19:13,559 Speaker 1: was also doing this tonight show. So oftentimes I was 1672 01:19:13,560 --> 01:19:16,640 Speaker 1: working like twa like full days and uh and then 1673 01:19:16,680 --> 01:19:18,479 Speaker 1: also like going home and watching the games too, so 1674 01:19:18,520 --> 01:19:22,120 Speaker 1: it's not like I ever stopped. And um. So I 1675 01:19:22,160 --> 01:19:25,640 Speaker 1: woke up one day and I was really sick. I 1676 01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,439 Speaker 1: just did not feel good. I couldn't get out of bed. 1677 01:19:28,720 --> 01:19:30,519 Speaker 1: I showed up to work and they were like, go home. 1678 01:19:30,840 --> 01:19:33,519 Speaker 1: You look bad. If you get anyone else sick, we're 1679 01:19:33,600 --> 01:19:36,920 Speaker 1: in trouble. So you need to go home and rest. Um. 1680 01:19:37,000 --> 01:19:39,600 Speaker 1: And I didn't like vomit or anything like that. I 1681 01:19:39,640 --> 01:19:42,559 Speaker 1: just felt really weird. I felt weak, I felt like nauseous, 1682 01:19:42,600 --> 01:19:43,880 Speaker 1: and I was like, I don't know what's going on 1683 01:19:43,920 --> 01:19:47,400 Speaker 1: with me. So went home, slept for like fifteen hours 1684 01:19:47,400 --> 01:19:49,160 Speaker 1: something crazy, and then woke up the next day and 1685 01:19:49,200 --> 01:19:52,320 Speaker 1: was like, Okay, I feel pretty good, showed up to work, 1686 01:19:52,479 --> 01:19:55,599 Speaker 1: worked another crazy day. The next morning. I woke up 1687 01:19:55,960 --> 01:19:58,639 Speaker 1: usually because of the time difference, we were shooting later 1688 01:19:58,680 --> 01:20:00,639 Speaker 1: on in in the night, so I would finished until 1689 01:20:00,640 --> 01:20:02,400 Speaker 1: like three am, and I go home and then I 1690 01:20:02,400 --> 01:20:06,200 Speaker 1: would sleep until like noon or whatever. Um. I woke 1691 01:20:06,280 --> 01:20:07,880 Speaker 1: up at eight am the next day and I was 1692 01:20:07,920 --> 01:20:10,360 Speaker 1: just like, this is not good. I still need to 1693 01:20:10,360 --> 01:20:11,840 Speaker 1: be sleeping for a few hours if I'm going to 1694 01:20:11,880 --> 01:20:15,120 Speaker 1: be able to stand. Uh. And I felt really sick again, 1695 01:20:15,200 --> 01:20:17,839 Speaker 1: like super nauseous, and I just like I I just started 1696 01:20:18,280 --> 01:20:21,439 Speaker 1: huking like so bad. I texted our team doctor who 1697 01:20:21,520 --> 01:20:23,160 Speaker 1: was kind of like traveling around to all the different 1698 01:20:23,160 --> 01:20:27,439 Speaker 1: hotels that was in charge of Fox, and Uh. I 1699 01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:29,720 Speaker 1: was just like, I'm putting bad shape. You need to 1700 01:20:29,800 --> 01:20:32,080 Speaker 1: come to my room, like, please tell me. And he 1701 01:20:32,320 --> 01:20:35,960 Speaker 1: when he found me, I was on the bathroom floor 1702 01:20:36,000 --> 01:20:38,040 Speaker 1: because it was cold the tile, and I was like 1703 01:20:38,120 --> 01:20:41,240 Speaker 1: burning up and I just couldn't move. I was just like, 1704 01:20:41,280 --> 01:20:43,280 Speaker 1: if you touch me, I'm gonna throw up. I'm gonna 1705 01:20:43,280 --> 01:20:45,080 Speaker 1: throw up around your face, so we better not touch me. 1706 01:20:45,680 --> 01:20:48,280 Speaker 1: And uh. He took a shot of morphine and put 1707 01:20:48,320 --> 01:20:51,439 Speaker 1: it in a butt and that helped me to not vomit. 1708 01:20:51,600 --> 01:20:54,479 Speaker 1: And they've transported me from the tile floor in my 1709 01:20:54,520 --> 01:20:59,120 Speaker 1: bathroom to the hospital and uh and not in an ambulance, No, 1710 01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:02,920 Speaker 1: we had like some security cars so they transport transported 1711 01:21:02,920 --> 01:21:07,320 Speaker 1: me to the hospital, and um, I went in there 1712 01:21:07,320 --> 01:21:08,840 Speaker 1: and had like a bunch of scans and they're like, 1713 01:21:08,920 --> 01:21:12,040 Speaker 1: your gall bladder is more than twice its normal size 1714 01:21:12,240 --> 01:21:14,280 Speaker 1: and we have no idea why, so we're gonna have 1715 01:21:14,320 --> 01:21:17,519 Speaker 1: to do some tests. Um. At that point, thankfully I did. 1716 01:21:17,520 --> 01:21:21,120 Speaker 1: The morphine had made me stop vomiting, vomiting and feeling 1717 01:21:21,120 --> 01:21:24,559 Speaker 1: so nauseous. So I was like, Okay, at the time, 1718 01:21:25,160 --> 01:21:28,400 Speaker 1: you're in a Russian hospital, right, I'm in a Russian hospital. 1719 01:21:28,520 --> 01:21:32,040 Speaker 1: And as you can tell by my history, I hate hospitals. 1720 01:21:32,160 --> 01:21:34,800 Speaker 1: They give me anxiety. They freaked me out. I spent 1721 01:21:34,880 --> 01:21:36,559 Speaker 1: way too much time in them as a kid. I 1722 01:21:36,600 --> 01:21:40,280 Speaker 1: cannot stand hospital. So I'm like literally watching Netflix on 1723 01:21:40,320 --> 01:21:42,840 Speaker 1: my phone because like I can't think. I cannot be 1724 01:21:42,920 --> 01:21:44,760 Speaker 1: here in my mind, I Am not going to sit 1725 01:21:44,800 --> 01:21:48,880 Speaker 1: here and stare at the ceiling feeling like super nauseous still. 1726 01:21:48,960 --> 01:21:51,360 Speaker 1: And I remember at the time, I hadn't been fully 1727 01:21:51,360 --> 01:21:53,840 Speaker 1: admitted yet because they hadn't figured out my insurance, and 1728 01:21:53,880 --> 01:21:55,280 Speaker 1: so I was in like a weight like one of 1729 01:21:55,320 --> 01:21:57,240 Speaker 1: those like waiting rooms where there's like a ton of 1730 01:21:57,240 --> 01:21:59,880 Speaker 1: beds and you're only really separated by like a sheet. Um. 1731 01:22:00,080 --> 01:22:02,360 Speaker 1: I was in one of those for like probably three hours, 1732 01:22:02,960 --> 01:22:06,040 Speaker 1: and uh, I remember the wheeled this guy in. Keep 1733 01:22:06,080 --> 01:22:08,720 Speaker 1: in mind, I'm so nauseous. They wheeled this guy in 1734 01:22:08,840 --> 01:22:13,360 Speaker 1: from Boston of all places, and this guy has severe 1735 01:22:13,400 --> 01:22:15,920 Speaker 1: diarrhea and has had diarrhea for forty eight hours and 1736 01:22:16,000 --> 01:22:19,080 Speaker 1: would go into full detail in length for the next 1737 01:22:19,120 --> 01:22:22,160 Speaker 1: twenty minutes while I sat and choked down my vomit 1738 01:22:23,120 --> 01:22:26,000 Speaker 1: for it was it was laughable. I was just like, 1739 01:22:26,040 --> 01:22:28,240 Speaker 1: this is not happening to me. Why why are we 1740 01:22:28,280 --> 01:22:31,640 Speaker 1: both in this Russian hospital? So they ended up admitting me. 1741 01:22:32,280 --> 01:22:37,040 Speaker 1: I spent the next three days in the hospital begging 1742 01:22:37,080 --> 01:22:38,800 Speaker 1: them to let me go because I wanted to get 1743 01:22:38,840 --> 01:22:40,559 Speaker 1: back to work. I had to have a fill in 1744 01:22:40,720 --> 01:22:43,080 Speaker 1: which was just like this is my show. I need 1745 01:22:43,080 --> 01:22:44,840 Speaker 1: to get through the World Cup like this, I need 1746 01:22:44,880 --> 01:22:47,519 Speaker 1: a medal of honor. Once I finished it, uh, and 1747 01:22:47,560 --> 01:22:49,720 Speaker 1: I was, I was like devastated, and I just like 1748 01:22:49,800 --> 01:22:54,960 Speaker 1: watched TV and ate crutons and waited until my goldbladder 1749 01:22:55,000 --> 01:22:58,880 Speaker 1: went down to normal size. Fox Sports Radio has the 1750 01:22:58,960 --> 01:23:00,839 Speaker 1: best sports talk a lot end up in the nation. 1751 01:23:01,160 --> 01:23:04,080 Speaker 1: Catch all of our shows at Fox sports radio dot 1752 01:23:04,120 --> 01:23:07,160 Speaker 1: com and within the I heart radio app search f 1753 01:23:07,479 --> 01:23:11,160 Speaker 1: s R to listen live. I'm Clay Travis. Is Rachel 1754 01:23:11,160 --> 01:23:13,600 Speaker 1: Bannetta talking about our gallbladder on Wins and Losses and 1755 01:23:13,640 --> 01:23:16,000 Speaker 1: they figure out what caused your gallbladder to just like 1756 01:23:16,240 --> 01:23:18,840 Speaker 1: double in size. They said, it's a combination of things. 1757 01:23:18,880 --> 01:23:20,439 Speaker 1: It was like, it could have been stressed, it could 1758 01:23:20,439 --> 01:23:22,680 Speaker 1: have been eating different foods, which we absolutely were. The 1759 01:23:23,040 --> 01:23:25,920 Speaker 1: food in Russia was um as you can assume pretty 1760 01:23:25,920 --> 01:23:29,400 Speaker 1: different um not sleep, all of these things, and I 1761 01:23:29,439 --> 01:23:30,880 Speaker 1: was like, I check all those boxes. So yeah, it 1762 01:23:30,880 --> 01:23:34,040 Speaker 1: makes sense that I have a large callblatterer. But it 1763 01:23:34,120 --> 01:23:36,120 Speaker 1: just took. It took like three days and I started 1764 01:23:36,120 --> 01:23:37,720 Speaker 1: feeling a little bit normal. But then I couldn't eat 1765 01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,800 Speaker 1: normal food for like a couple of a couple of weeks. 1766 01:23:40,800 --> 01:23:42,600 Speaker 1: I had to have like boiled chicken and rice just 1767 01:23:42,720 --> 01:23:45,160 Speaker 1: until my my body went back to normal. So you 1768 01:23:45,280 --> 01:23:49,479 Speaker 1: come back from you survive living in Russia, you come 1769 01:23:49,479 --> 01:23:53,960 Speaker 1: back and you want to do television maybe? And when 1770 01:23:53,960 --> 01:23:57,120 Speaker 1: did you hear so walk it In is being worked on. 1771 01:23:57,520 --> 01:23:59,680 Speaker 1: I guess that we're like the next summer, right, like 1772 01:23:59,680 --> 01:24:02,160 Speaker 1: the next summer after the after the World Cup? Or 1773 01:24:02,200 --> 01:24:07,240 Speaker 1: was it the same summer, I literally from from Russia. Like, 1774 01:24:07,439 --> 01:24:10,599 Speaker 1: let's say on a Friday, and I got an email saying, 1775 01:24:10,920 --> 01:24:13,240 Speaker 1: Charlie Dixon, who's our boss now, wants to have lunch 1776 01:24:13,240 --> 01:24:14,720 Speaker 1: with you on Monday. Are you around? And I was 1777 01:24:14,760 --> 01:24:17,200 Speaker 1: like yeah, sure, And so I come to the Fox 1778 01:24:17,280 --> 01:24:19,000 Speaker 1: lot and I have lunch with Charlie and Charlie's is 1779 01:24:19,080 --> 01:24:23,400 Speaker 1: like there, I'm developing a show, um and uh Chris, 1780 01:24:23,400 --> 01:24:26,400 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna host it. And I really want you 1781 01:24:26,640 --> 01:24:29,640 Speaker 1: to be the fill in, like whenever she's sick or 1782 01:24:29,680 --> 01:24:31,280 Speaker 1: wants to go on vacation. I want you to be 1783 01:24:31,320 --> 01:24:33,519 Speaker 1: the designated number one fill in. That way, you're gonna 1784 01:24:33,520 --> 01:24:36,400 Speaker 1: get reps on TV, you're gonna learn this space, You're 1785 01:24:36,439 --> 01:24:38,760 Speaker 1: it's it's just like the perfect place for you. And 1786 01:24:38,800 --> 01:24:40,120 Speaker 1: he says like, if it's not this, if you're not 1787 01:24:40,160 --> 01:24:41,880 Speaker 1: interested in this, it's something else, like we definitely want 1788 01:24:41,880 --> 01:24:43,639 Speaker 1: to get you on TV this year and and like 1789 01:24:44,000 --> 01:24:46,680 Speaker 1: you know, more experience in yeah, yah YadA. And I 1790 01:24:46,680 --> 01:24:49,360 Speaker 1: was just like I'm absolutely down, Like I will start 1791 01:24:49,800 --> 01:24:53,360 Speaker 1: tomorrow whatever you need. And he's like, okay, great, good here, 1792 01:24:53,640 --> 01:24:57,559 Speaker 1: glad you're into it. Blah blah blah blah. Somehow from 1793 01:24:57,600 --> 01:25:02,880 Speaker 1: that Monday to literally the following Monday, ship hit the 1794 01:25:02,920 --> 01:25:05,080 Speaker 1: van and he called me on money. He was like, okay, 1795 01:25:05,080 --> 01:25:06,599 Speaker 1: so how would you actually like to host the whole 1796 01:25:06,600 --> 01:25:10,160 Speaker 1: thing because that's that's that's up for graps now, UM. 1797 01:25:10,200 --> 01:25:14,120 Speaker 1: And I was just like, yes, yes, yes that's terrifying, 1798 01:25:14,120 --> 01:25:16,720 Speaker 1: but yes I'm in UM. And so he's like, Okay, 1799 01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:18,240 Speaker 1: we're gonna like test it out and you can meet 1800 01:25:18,240 --> 01:25:20,280 Speaker 1: the guys and and we'll see. He's like, I'm not 1801 01:25:20,360 --> 01:25:22,800 Speaker 1: promising anything, but let's just you know, go to the 1802 01:25:22,840 --> 01:25:25,280 Speaker 1: next step and and see what this looks like. And 1803 01:25:25,320 --> 01:25:28,519 Speaker 1: so we were all I mean, you guys were flowed 1804 01:25:28,520 --> 01:25:31,600 Speaker 1: to l A still had no idea. I think in 1805 01:25:31,600 --> 01:25:33,960 Speaker 1: their minds they were like, okay, well she's gonna host it. 1806 01:25:34,200 --> 01:25:35,800 Speaker 1: Still to me, I was just like, okay, this is 1807 01:25:35,880 --> 01:25:37,840 Speaker 1: very much like a tryout. I need to be very 1808 01:25:37,880 --> 01:25:42,479 Speaker 1: proper and like just like really well everybody. And uh 1809 01:25:42,560 --> 01:25:45,479 Speaker 1: so I showed up to the meeting, um Met stal 1810 01:25:45,640 --> 01:25:48,880 Speaker 1: Met Todd had met you once before, and uh we 1811 01:25:49,000 --> 01:25:51,280 Speaker 1: just had like a really great first table read. I 1812 01:25:51,320 --> 01:25:54,519 Speaker 1: don't know what it was, um, but do you remember 1813 01:25:54,520 --> 01:25:56,040 Speaker 1: that like all of us were just like clicking and 1814 01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,479 Speaker 1: driving and like making fun of each other from the 1815 01:25:58,520 --> 01:26:01,080 Speaker 1: get go. From the beginning, this is like how we 1816 01:26:01,120 --> 01:26:04,120 Speaker 1: have done this show. Uh. And I remember like people 1817 01:26:04,120 --> 01:26:06,200 Speaker 1: looking around at each other at the table and they're like, Okay, 1818 01:26:06,200 --> 01:26:08,599 Speaker 1: this is it. This is a group. Uh. And then 1819 01:26:08,640 --> 01:26:10,519 Speaker 1: like a couple of days later, they Charlie called me 1820 01:26:10,520 --> 01:26:12,960 Speaker 1: into his office and he's like, so we wanted to 1821 01:26:12,960 --> 01:26:16,120 Speaker 1: host this show, and I just pretend vomited. I was 1822 01:26:16,160 --> 01:26:20,680 Speaker 1: like okay, and uh yeah, and then we just did 1823 01:26:20,720 --> 01:26:22,160 Speaker 1: like a bunch of trier and so a bunch of 1824 01:26:22,160 --> 01:26:24,000 Speaker 1: rehearsals leading up to the show and then it was lunched. 1825 01:26:24,080 --> 01:26:26,519 Speaker 1: So probably from the time that I found out I 1826 01:26:26,560 --> 01:26:29,200 Speaker 1: was getting the show, it was like two weeks until 1827 01:26:29,240 --> 01:26:32,120 Speaker 1: it actually happened two weeks three weeks to be And 1828 01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:34,400 Speaker 1: by the way, Charrissa decided she had so much going 1829 01:26:34,439 --> 01:26:37,479 Speaker 1: on she couldn't do a daily one hour show, which 1830 01:26:37,520 --> 01:26:39,400 Speaker 1: then left it open for who was going to be 1831 01:26:39,439 --> 01:26:43,840 Speaker 1: the host, and you just swept right in. But talking 1832 01:26:43,840 --> 01:26:47,120 Speaker 1: about taking risks, and I'm Clay Travis, Rachel Barnetta Wins 1833 01:26:47,120 --> 01:26:48,680 Speaker 1: and Losses. You've taken a lot of risks and a 1834 01:26:48,720 --> 01:26:50,719 Speaker 1: lot of creative risk in your career, but you didn't 1835 01:26:50,720 --> 01:26:53,439 Speaker 1: know anything about gambling like that. You you you were like, yeah, 1836 01:26:53,479 --> 01:26:55,360 Speaker 1: I'll do the show, but you're I mean you said 1837 01:26:55,360 --> 01:26:57,320 Speaker 1: earlier like you didn't know much about soccer when you 1838 01:26:57,360 --> 01:27:00,320 Speaker 1: started MLS. You just kind of threw yourself into to it, 1839 01:27:00,439 --> 01:27:02,720 Speaker 1: and they gave you like a binder to try to 1840 01:27:02,840 --> 01:27:05,760 Speaker 1: learn as much as you could before gambling started. Right. 1841 01:27:06,320 --> 01:27:09,000 Speaker 1: One thing that I'm really saying full for is I'm 1842 01:27:09,000 --> 01:27:11,439 Speaker 1: a quick learner. If I'm if I'm like dedicated to something, 1843 01:27:11,439 --> 01:27:13,519 Speaker 1: then I will pick it up. Um. And so that, yes, 1844 01:27:13,560 --> 01:27:16,479 Speaker 1: they gave me a binder, the Gambling Bible, and I 1845 01:27:16,520 --> 01:27:19,479 Speaker 1: went home and I just started pairing through that thing 1846 01:27:19,600 --> 01:27:21,479 Speaker 1: and had somebody like sit with me and kind of 1847 01:27:21,520 --> 01:27:24,280 Speaker 1: like understood, like because gambling, I feel like when you 1848 01:27:24,320 --> 01:27:25,800 Speaker 1: first look at it's a lot of numbers. It's like 1849 01:27:25,840 --> 01:27:28,040 Speaker 1: super intimidating. It's like WHOA, this is the language that 1850 01:27:28,040 --> 01:27:31,320 Speaker 1: I don't even understand sometimes until somebody sat with me 1851 01:27:31,320 --> 01:27:34,640 Speaker 1: and talked to me as a human being and like 1852 01:27:34,800 --> 01:27:37,640 Speaker 1: discussed every kind of game that you could play in 1853 01:27:37,760 --> 01:27:40,320 Speaker 1: terms of sports gambling, and I just got it. I 1854 01:27:40,320 --> 01:27:41,880 Speaker 1: picked it up, and then I just had to learn 1855 01:27:41,920 --> 01:27:43,800 Speaker 1: the terms and like how to say the numbers and 1856 01:27:43,840 --> 01:27:46,120 Speaker 1: the way that we say it with the halves and 1857 01:27:46,120 --> 01:27:49,720 Speaker 1: and the plus and minus and YadA YadA, YadA um 1858 01:27:49,760 --> 01:27:51,879 Speaker 1: and then I just figured it out. But also, football 1859 01:27:52,000 --> 01:27:54,200 Speaker 1: is not something that I was like, I've covered soccer 1860 01:27:54,400 --> 01:27:56,120 Speaker 1: for the past few years, and even if it was 1861 01:27:56,200 --> 01:27:59,880 Speaker 1: something that I was watching, I haven't. I haven't covered 1862 01:28:00,040 --> 01:28:02,040 Speaker 1: in a way that you're full on talking about it 1863 01:28:02,080 --> 01:28:04,920 Speaker 1: every single day, especially on TV, and TV basically have 1864 01:28:05,040 --> 01:28:07,639 Speaker 1: to be pretty bang on about everything that you're talking 1865 01:28:07,640 --> 01:28:10,759 Speaker 1: about in terms of like facts, unless you're Clay Travis. Um. 1866 01:28:12,240 --> 01:28:14,000 Speaker 1: So that was also something I was having to learn 1867 01:28:14,040 --> 01:28:16,640 Speaker 1: as well. Uh So I dove into sports gambling, I 1868 01:28:16,640 --> 01:28:19,320 Speaker 1: dove into football, and I picked it up relatively quickly. 1869 01:28:19,640 --> 01:28:21,519 Speaker 1: But then it was also like finding the confidence to 1870 01:28:21,560 --> 01:28:23,840 Speaker 1: talk about it too, um and talk about it in 1871 01:28:23,880 --> 01:28:25,800 Speaker 1: like a way that you would talk to your friends, 1872 01:28:25,840 --> 01:28:27,880 Speaker 1: because that's exactly what our show is like, a bunch 1873 01:28:27,880 --> 01:28:30,439 Speaker 1: of people chatting about, you know, what games they like 1874 01:28:30,520 --> 01:28:32,720 Speaker 1: and what kind of bets they like. So it was 1875 01:28:32,760 --> 01:28:34,639 Speaker 1: a lot of work. It was a ton of work. 1876 01:28:34,640 --> 01:28:37,439 Speaker 1: I remember like being very close to panic attack a 1877 01:28:37,479 --> 01:28:39,360 Speaker 1: couple of the nights leading up to our first show 1878 01:28:39,360 --> 01:28:40,479 Speaker 1: because I was like, I don't know if I can 1879 01:28:40,479 --> 01:28:43,280 Speaker 1: do this, Like I think they've got the wrong person. Um, 1880 01:28:43,320 --> 01:28:47,360 Speaker 1: But thankfully things things went the right way. How So 1881 01:28:47,400 --> 01:28:49,559 Speaker 1: we talked about that first table read. We were it's 1882 01:28:49,560 --> 01:28:51,760 Speaker 1: not on the lot. We're sitting there. For people who 1883 01:28:51,840 --> 01:28:54,360 Speaker 1: may not understand what that's like. It's there's no cameras, 1884 01:28:54,720 --> 01:28:57,479 Speaker 1: there's no dress up, like, there's no you know, makeup 1885 01:28:57,560 --> 01:29:00,000 Speaker 1: or anything, or nobody's dressed in fancy clothes or any 1886 01:29:00,040 --> 01:29:01,840 Speaker 1: thing like that, but you just kind of do a 1887 01:29:01,920 --> 01:29:04,880 Speaker 1: mock show. And almost from the get go it was 1888 01:29:04,960 --> 01:29:07,719 Speaker 1: really really smooth. I mean, I knew Furman, I didn't 1889 01:29:07,720 --> 01:29:09,960 Speaker 1: know sal at all. I didn't. I didn't know you 1890 01:29:10,040 --> 01:29:12,840 Speaker 1: other than to have met you at that Super Bowl party, 1891 01:29:13,280 --> 01:29:16,000 Speaker 1: and so I don't think you knew anybody, right, Like 1892 01:29:16,040 --> 01:29:18,240 Speaker 1: you didn't know any of the three of us. No, 1893 01:29:18,360 --> 01:29:21,719 Speaker 1: I I didn't know anyone. I remember our boss calling 1894 01:29:21,760 --> 01:29:23,400 Speaker 1: me and being like, do you know who cousins Salas? 1895 01:29:23,400 --> 01:29:25,880 Speaker 1: And I was like, yeah, that's that name. Sounds really familiar. 1896 01:29:26,160 --> 01:29:27,400 Speaker 1: And I had my computer in front of me and 1897 01:29:27,400 --> 01:29:29,000 Speaker 1: I looked it up and I'm like, oh, yeah, Jimmy 1898 01:29:29,040 --> 01:29:31,360 Speaker 1: kimbl Okay, I got that uh, and then I had 1899 01:29:31,400 --> 01:29:35,120 Speaker 1: met you literally one time before, um, and I didn't 1900 01:29:35,120 --> 01:29:37,120 Speaker 1: know Todd Furman, So I was just like I was 1901 01:29:37,160 --> 01:29:40,519 Speaker 1: going in pretty blind for sure. So how so first 1902 01:29:40,520 --> 01:29:43,760 Speaker 1: of all they announced the show and are you like 1903 01:29:44,240 --> 01:29:47,439 Speaker 1: people immediately are going to say things bad about me? Right? Like? 1904 01:29:47,520 --> 01:29:50,559 Speaker 1: I did anybody say anything bad about sal Or Furman 1905 01:29:50,640 --> 01:29:53,519 Speaker 1: to you? Um? I don't think so. I think it 1906 01:29:53,560 --> 01:29:55,479 Speaker 1: was all yeah. I remember my mom calling me and 1907 01:29:55,520 --> 01:29:58,479 Speaker 1: being like who, Like what is this Clay's guy? What 1908 01:29:58,600 --> 01:30:01,000 Speaker 1: is this deal? Like? Why is everyone one? You know? 1909 01:30:01,080 --> 01:30:04,280 Speaker 1: You would sink when you announced the show that everyone's 1910 01:30:04,280 --> 01:30:06,280 Speaker 1: going to be like raw raw raw, Yes, like this 1911 01:30:06,439 --> 01:30:08,960 Speaker 1: is amazing, congratulations and they're like I would watch it 1912 01:30:09,000 --> 01:30:12,200 Speaker 1: if Clay Travis wasn't on it. It's like what am 1913 01:30:12,200 --> 01:30:16,920 Speaker 1: I signing up for? Oh my goodness? Um, but I 1914 01:30:17,000 --> 01:30:19,000 Speaker 1: was excited. I remember there's a photo of my mom 1915 01:30:19,080 --> 01:30:21,519 Speaker 1: that my aunt's hook when I called her and told 1916 01:30:21,520 --> 01:30:23,200 Speaker 1: her that I got the job, and it's just like 1917 01:30:23,280 --> 01:30:25,760 Speaker 1: her with a huge smile on her face being like, 1918 01:30:25,840 --> 01:30:29,759 Speaker 1: oh my god. So that was pretty cool. But it's exciting. 1919 01:30:29,800 --> 01:30:33,280 Speaker 1: I mean, it's like a new venture and people that 1920 01:30:33,360 --> 01:30:36,080 Speaker 1: have watched you grow for as long as people have 1921 01:30:36,080 --> 01:30:38,360 Speaker 1: been watching me grow. I think when I say, like, 1922 01:30:38,520 --> 01:30:40,320 Speaker 1: all right, I'm moving on to TV, people are like 1923 01:30:40,439 --> 01:30:42,160 Speaker 1: that is awesome. Like I said, I've had a lot 1924 01:30:42,280 --> 01:30:45,040 Speaker 1: of I've been really lucky and had a lot of 1925 01:30:45,640 --> 01:30:51,160 Speaker 1: uh positive people following me, and so I I don't 1926 01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:55,479 Speaker 1: really get a lot of nasty stuff unless you're Tom 1927 01:30:55,479 --> 01:30:58,559 Speaker 1: Allen Bauld. Yeah, of course. So how nervous were you 1928 01:30:59,160 --> 01:31:03,080 Speaker 1: before the first show? Um, I was freaking out. I 1929 01:31:03,120 --> 01:31:04,920 Speaker 1: was freaking out, and I was freaking out for a 1930 01:31:04,960 --> 01:31:08,840 Speaker 1: long while after that. Like I the first half of 1931 01:31:08,840 --> 01:31:11,840 Speaker 1: of our season, I probably didn't sleep much. Like I 1932 01:31:11,880 --> 01:31:15,000 Speaker 1: was just like constantly in fear of getting something wrong. 1933 01:31:16,520 --> 01:31:19,719 Speaker 1: And like that dates back to when I was a kid, 1934 01:31:19,760 --> 01:31:23,800 Speaker 1: Like I didn't have somebody who was being like great job, 1935 01:31:23,920 --> 01:31:26,719 Speaker 1: Like you should have all the confidence in the world, because, 1936 01:31:26,760 --> 01:31:28,639 Speaker 1: like like I said, my parents were busy with other things. 1937 01:31:29,280 --> 01:31:32,599 Speaker 1: And so my therapist has helped me and navigate that road. Um, 1938 01:31:32,680 --> 01:31:35,639 Speaker 1: but uh so I'm constantly just in fear of like 1939 01:31:35,760 --> 01:31:39,240 Speaker 1: being wrong, saying the wrong thing, not doing well, screwing up, 1940 01:31:39,280 --> 01:31:41,840 Speaker 1: getting fired. I mean even yesterday we had our you know, 1941 01:31:41,880 --> 01:31:45,000 Speaker 1: we've we've had our season premiere of of season two 1942 01:31:45,000 --> 01:31:49,439 Speaker 1: of Blocking In, and um, my boss was just like, yeah, 1943 01:31:49,439 --> 01:31:50,720 Speaker 1: I got I got a couple of notes. I'm like, 1944 01:31:50,800 --> 01:31:52,439 Speaker 1: you know, you have to call me tonight and tell 1945 01:31:52,479 --> 01:31:54,200 Speaker 1: me those notes now or else I will think about 1946 01:31:54,240 --> 01:31:56,120 Speaker 1: it until tomorrow morning. And they were all good notes. 1947 01:31:56,560 --> 01:31:57,920 Speaker 1: But he called me like, I know, I had to 1948 01:31:57,920 --> 01:32:00,000 Speaker 1: call you because you're just gonna go crazy over these things. 1949 01:32:00,000 --> 01:32:01,680 Speaker 1: And he's like, I'm guess I'm glad that you know 1950 01:32:01,840 --> 01:32:03,840 Speaker 1: the kind of person I am now. Um, but it 1951 01:32:03,920 --> 01:32:06,720 Speaker 1: took a while to kind of find my footing and 1952 01:32:06,800 --> 01:32:10,599 Speaker 1: get comfortable. And live television is terrifying when you're first 1953 01:32:10,600 --> 01:32:14,040 Speaker 1: starting out, and I think people, I'm sure people realize 1954 01:32:14,080 --> 01:32:15,800 Speaker 1: that it's a scary thing, but when you're sitting in 1955 01:32:15,840 --> 01:32:17,880 Speaker 1: front of the camera, you feel so I felt like 1956 01:32:17,920 --> 01:32:20,040 Speaker 1: a kid. I felt like a child that first day, like, 1957 01:32:20,080 --> 01:32:22,559 Speaker 1: oh my god, somebody please hold my hand and walk 1958 01:32:22,640 --> 01:32:25,320 Speaker 1: me through this because I cannot do it alone. But 1959 01:32:25,360 --> 01:32:27,360 Speaker 1: thankfully I just like blacked out and got through it 1960 01:32:27,400 --> 01:32:28,720 Speaker 1: and got through the next day and the next day 1961 01:32:28,720 --> 01:32:30,000 Speaker 1: and the next day, and now I'm like, you know, 1962 01:32:30,320 --> 01:32:33,639 Speaker 1: pretty used to it and feel much more confident about 1963 01:32:33,680 --> 01:32:36,439 Speaker 1: everything in terms of you know what, we're talking about, 1964 01:32:36,439 --> 01:32:39,840 Speaker 1: but it was pretty scary there for a while. So 1965 01:32:40,040 --> 01:32:43,760 Speaker 1: what I think is fascinating about you in particular is 1966 01:32:44,200 --> 01:32:49,920 Speaker 1: you're young, um, but you don't like you can be 1967 01:32:50,000 --> 01:32:52,880 Speaker 1: made fun of on the television show in a way 1968 01:32:52,880 --> 01:32:55,760 Speaker 1: that I think a lot of people can't. Um, and 1969 01:32:56,280 --> 01:32:58,160 Speaker 1: like people make fun of me all the time. Whatever 1970 01:32:58,200 --> 01:33:00,760 Speaker 1: I'm forty, I've been through, you know, like that's kind 1971 01:33:00,800 --> 01:33:03,200 Speaker 1: of been my life story for a while. But I 1972 01:33:03,240 --> 01:33:05,960 Speaker 1: feel like in this Instagram age that we're in, so 1973 01:33:06,040 --> 01:33:08,640 Speaker 1: many people are like they want to put out a 1974 01:33:08,760 --> 01:33:13,200 Speaker 1: version of themselves is perfect, but you're comfortable in the imperfect. 1975 01:33:13,400 --> 01:33:18,680 Speaker 1: Why do you think that is? Um? I don't know. 1976 01:33:18,960 --> 01:33:20,760 Speaker 1: I think I just want to be I know it's 1977 01:33:20,920 --> 01:33:24,080 Speaker 1: gonna sounds so losory, but I just want to be 1978 01:33:24,840 --> 01:33:28,439 Speaker 1: me because I look at so many other people on 1979 01:33:28,479 --> 01:33:31,400 Speaker 1: Instagram they're like putting out this perfect version of themselves 1980 01:33:31,400 --> 01:33:35,080 Speaker 1: and like, to be honest, I definitely curate my Instagram 1981 01:33:35,080 --> 01:33:37,160 Speaker 1: to what I wanted to be. I'm not like showing 1982 01:33:37,160 --> 01:33:41,519 Speaker 1: all the sad stuff that I've talked about on here, um, 1983 01:33:41,560 --> 01:33:43,639 Speaker 1: but I feel like it would be so easy for 1984 01:33:43,760 --> 01:33:49,759 Speaker 1: me to post photos where I'm like looking good and 1985 01:33:49,960 --> 01:33:52,679 Speaker 1: you know, feeling good, and I feel like my followers 1986 01:33:52,720 --> 01:33:56,479 Speaker 1: would probably jump way up. And you know, anytime I 1987 01:33:56,520 --> 01:33:59,280 Speaker 1: even post a selfie on my Instagram, it's like astronomically 1988 01:33:59,280 --> 01:34:01,639 Speaker 1: more like said, if I were to post the sunset picture, 1989 01:34:01,680 --> 01:34:04,280 Speaker 1: you know what I mean. So I can see what works, 1990 01:34:04,840 --> 01:34:07,080 Speaker 1: but I just don't want to be that. I feel 1991 01:34:07,080 --> 01:34:10,479 Speaker 1: like I absolutely want to be an advocate for women 1992 01:34:10,680 --> 01:34:13,400 Speaker 1: in this space in sports and in television, and there's 1993 01:34:13,439 --> 01:34:15,880 Speaker 1: not a ton of us. And so when I'm looking 1994 01:34:15,880 --> 01:34:19,800 Speaker 1: at somebody, whether it's on social media or TV and 1995 01:34:19,840 --> 01:34:22,519 Speaker 1: I and they've got like, you know, gigantic boobs and 1996 01:34:22,520 --> 01:34:24,439 Speaker 1: they look perfect, I'm like, I can't do that. I 1997 01:34:24,479 --> 01:34:27,000 Speaker 1: can't be that person. But maybe if somebody's watching me 1998 01:34:27,080 --> 01:34:29,799 Speaker 1: and I'm being a goofball and totally imperfect and messing 1999 01:34:29,840 --> 01:34:33,160 Speaker 1: up my lines and laughing at myself, and maybe they're like, Okay, 2000 01:34:33,240 --> 01:34:35,439 Speaker 1: I can do that and be probably better than that. 2001 01:34:36,240 --> 01:34:38,720 Speaker 1: I just I do think about that a lot, and 2002 01:34:38,760 --> 01:34:41,640 Speaker 1: I would never want to be somebody that I'm not 2003 01:34:41,840 --> 01:34:46,439 Speaker 1: and and that version of you know, and kudos to 2004 01:34:46,479 --> 01:34:48,920 Speaker 1: those women who can feel comfortable in their skin and 2005 01:34:48,960 --> 01:34:50,679 Speaker 1: be sexy and all that stuff. That's just like not 2006 01:34:51,360 --> 01:34:55,120 Speaker 1: who I am, and I never want to be like that. 2007 01:34:55,200 --> 01:34:58,919 Speaker 1: I just want to be the goofy me that I am. 2008 01:34:59,120 --> 01:35:02,080 Speaker 1: Fox Sports Radio has the best sports talk lineup in 2009 01:35:02,120 --> 01:35:05,080 Speaker 1: the nation. Catch all of our shows at Fox Sports 2010 01:35:05,200 --> 01:35:08,280 Speaker 1: Radio dot com and within the I Heart Radio app 2011 01:35:08,360 --> 01:35:12,880 Speaker 1: search f s R to listen live. We're talking to 2012 01:35:12,960 --> 01:35:15,599 Speaker 1: Rachel bonetto wins and Losses. You get tagged a lot 2013 01:35:16,120 --> 01:35:18,639 Speaker 1: on things that I say or do, and people are like, 2014 01:35:19,600 --> 01:35:22,679 Speaker 1: how in the world can you stand that awful human being, 2015 01:35:22,720 --> 01:35:27,599 Speaker 1: Clay Travis. People, A lot of people who are listening 2016 01:35:27,640 --> 01:35:30,760 Speaker 1: to this right now are already going to like me 2017 01:35:30,880 --> 01:35:32,720 Speaker 1: or at least tolerate me. But also there will be 2018 01:35:32,760 --> 01:35:34,920 Speaker 1: people who are listening to this right now that are 2019 01:35:35,040 --> 01:35:37,320 Speaker 1: fans of yours that don't really know me, or they 2020 01:35:37,320 --> 01:35:39,519 Speaker 1: are fans, or they're just finding this, And I hope 2021 01:35:39,520 --> 01:35:41,439 Speaker 1: this is something people will listen to for a long 2022 01:35:41,479 --> 01:35:43,320 Speaker 1: time in the future, and they're listening to this after 2023 01:35:43,360 --> 01:35:46,360 Speaker 1: you just won an Emmy or after you after you 2024 01:35:46,439 --> 01:35:50,080 Speaker 1: just won some award for an acting related venture. But 2025 01:35:50,400 --> 01:35:53,280 Speaker 1: what I would argue is people don't have to agree 2026 01:35:53,280 --> 01:35:56,719 Speaker 1: on everything to like each other, right, And I address 2027 01:35:56,800 --> 01:35:59,000 Speaker 1: this because I'm sure that you're gonna get tagged as 2028 01:35:59,040 --> 01:36:00,320 Speaker 1: soon as I put it up, Like, how in the 2029 01:36:00,400 --> 01:36:02,320 Speaker 1: world can you spend time with Clay like you and 2030 01:36:02,360 --> 01:36:04,080 Speaker 1: I don't agree on a lot of different things in 2031 01:36:04,120 --> 01:36:05,960 Speaker 1: the world. I don't agree on one of different things 2032 01:36:05,960 --> 01:36:08,240 Speaker 1: with my wife or my parents everybody else. I tend 2033 01:36:08,280 --> 01:36:11,519 Speaker 1: to get along with everyone. And I feel like there's 2034 01:36:11,720 --> 01:36:13,679 Speaker 1: a sort of zeit guest that's out there right now 2035 01:36:13,800 --> 01:36:16,760 Speaker 1: of if you don't agree with everything, you shouldn't be 2036 01:36:16,840 --> 01:36:19,800 Speaker 1: hanging out with this person. And I feel like, even 2037 01:36:19,800 --> 01:36:22,160 Speaker 1: though we disagree on things, you probably agree with me. 2038 01:36:22,240 --> 01:36:24,559 Speaker 1: That life would be kind of boring if you only 2039 01:36:24,640 --> 01:36:26,599 Speaker 1: hung out with people who agreed with you on everything. 2040 01:36:27,280 --> 01:36:28,799 Speaker 1: I think that's true. And I think that, if anything, 2041 01:36:28,880 --> 01:36:31,479 Speaker 1: you have taught me that this year, because I feel like, 2042 01:36:32,439 --> 01:36:35,559 Speaker 1: you know, I'm, you know, pretty to the left and 2043 01:36:35,800 --> 01:36:38,599 Speaker 1: I don't agree with some of the things that that 2044 01:36:38,680 --> 01:36:41,519 Speaker 1: you post, and um, same with some of my family, 2045 01:36:41,600 --> 01:36:43,800 Speaker 1: Like some of my family voted for Trump and I 2046 01:36:43,800 --> 01:36:48,080 Speaker 1: don't necessarily agree with that, but um, that doesn't necessarily 2047 01:36:48,120 --> 01:36:52,439 Speaker 1: mean they're an absolutely atrocious person. And I think that, Um, 2048 01:36:52,800 --> 01:36:55,880 Speaker 1: it's like our society is a mess right now because 2049 01:36:55,880 --> 01:36:57,519 Speaker 1: all of us hate each other because of where we 2050 01:36:57,560 --> 01:37:01,000 Speaker 1: stand politically, and that's just never really been the case before, 2051 01:37:01,400 --> 01:37:03,320 Speaker 1: and it's only going to make problems worse. So I 2052 01:37:03,360 --> 01:37:05,519 Speaker 1: think that, you know, going into this show, I was like, 2053 01:37:06,040 --> 01:37:07,920 Speaker 1: oh my god, I'm gonna have to Travis. He was 2054 01:37:07,920 --> 01:37:10,080 Speaker 1: just talking about boobs on CNN, Like, how am I 2055 01:37:10,080 --> 01:37:11,760 Speaker 1: going to what you think? By the way, when you 2056 01:37:11,840 --> 01:37:13,519 Speaker 1: heard that, I said that I was the first amendment 2057 01:37:13,560 --> 01:37:16,640 Speaker 1: in boobs absolut you know, like you were Dingleberry, I 2058 01:37:16,680 --> 01:37:19,320 Speaker 1: was like, this guy's a loser. What is he doing? 2059 01:37:19,360 --> 01:37:21,240 Speaker 1: He's trying to get a right, like a rise out 2060 01:37:21,240 --> 01:37:24,840 Speaker 1: of women. And I was, I was, I remember you. 2061 01:37:24,960 --> 01:37:27,000 Speaker 1: I was talking to somebody, one of my girlfriends who 2062 01:37:27,080 --> 01:37:28,960 Speaker 1: was also working in sports, and we were talking about 2063 01:37:28,960 --> 01:37:31,040 Speaker 1: it the day that you did that, and I was 2064 01:37:31,080 --> 01:37:33,160 Speaker 1: just like I was pissed because it was at a 2065 01:37:33,200 --> 01:37:35,599 Speaker 1: time I think, like the me too stuff was happening, 2066 01:37:35,640 --> 01:37:37,439 Speaker 1: and it was just a time to be angry as 2067 01:37:37,439 --> 01:37:39,920 Speaker 1: a woman. And I was just like, how dare he? 2068 01:37:40,120 --> 01:37:42,320 Speaker 1: Like that's just so stupid. Give us a little bit 2069 01:37:42,360 --> 01:37:44,519 Speaker 1: more than that, and like talk about women in a 2070 01:37:44,520 --> 01:37:46,760 Speaker 1: way that we deserve to be talked about, not just 2071 01:37:46,800 --> 01:37:50,360 Speaker 1: like from our boobs, and I was. I was genuinely angry. 2072 01:37:50,520 --> 01:37:53,360 Speaker 1: And then you know, people I say stupid stuff too, 2073 01:37:53,400 --> 01:37:55,400 Speaker 1: and not to say that, you know, you should have 2074 01:37:55,439 --> 01:37:56,840 Speaker 1: said that. You shouldn't have said that. We don't need 2075 01:37:56,840 --> 01:37:59,040 Speaker 1: to go back into that. But I think that just 2076 01:37:59,080 --> 01:38:03,640 Speaker 1: because somebody tweet something or says something that does not 2077 01:38:04,120 --> 01:38:09,240 Speaker 1: tell you totally and completely who that person is. And 2078 01:38:09,280 --> 01:38:11,120 Speaker 1: I think that that's what I've learned this year from 2079 01:38:11,120 --> 01:38:12,479 Speaker 1: doing the show. And sal and I had a lot 2080 01:38:12,479 --> 01:38:14,439 Speaker 1: of conversations about this in the beginning because him and 2081 01:38:14,479 --> 01:38:17,880 Speaker 1: I are, you know, relatively similar, and you know what 2082 01:38:17,920 --> 01:38:19,760 Speaker 1: we what we think and what we feel. I don't 2083 01:38:19,800 --> 01:38:22,639 Speaker 1: mean to speak for him, but um, Tim and I 2084 01:38:22,680 --> 01:38:24,639 Speaker 1: have this conversation like we totally thought we were gonna 2085 01:38:24,640 --> 01:38:25,920 Speaker 1: hate you because we thought you were gonna be a 2086 01:38:26,000 --> 01:38:28,639 Speaker 1: butt head, and you're not. You invited my mom into 2087 01:38:28,640 --> 01:38:31,840 Speaker 1: your home, and my mom's met your mom, and our 2088 01:38:31,880 --> 01:38:34,760 Speaker 1: families have come together and you've been nothing but nice 2089 01:38:34,800 --> 01:38:37,280 Speaker 1: and supportive to me and my career. And it's a 2090 01:38:37,280 --> 01:38:39,280 Speaker 1: little bit disappointing that you're not as big of an 2091 01:38:39,280 --> 01:38:40,760 Speaker 1: asshole as I thought you were going to be, because 2092 01:38:40,800 --> 01:38:45,320 Speaker 1: I was fully prepared to hate you you are. You know, 2093 01:38:45,360 --> 01:38:48,800 Speaker 1: I think that you're right. I think that um, you know, 2094 01:38:48,840 --> 01:38:50,599 Speaker 1: I I'm not going to agree with everything that you say, 2095 01:38:50,600 --> 01:38:52,080 Speaker 1: and you're not gonna agree with everything that I say. 2096 01:38:52,120 --> 01:38:55,640 Speaker 1: But that doesn't mean that we should not try to 2097 01:38:55,840 --> 01:38:57,680 Speaker 1: be friends. Because what I've realized is that you and 2098 01:38:57,720 --> 01:38:59,759 Speaker 1: I do have a lot in common and we stand 2099 01:38:59,800 --> 01:39:01,760 Speaker 1: on the same ground in some places, and that's what 2100 01:39:01,880 --> 01:39:05,120 Speaker 1: makes people friends, and that's what makes relationships happen. And 2101 01:39:05,360 --> 01:39:08,719 Speaker 1: I think that more people should have, uh an outlook 2102 01:39:08,840 --> 01:39:11,320 Speaker 1: on that. And in fact, I spend some time with 2103 01:39:11,360 --> 01:39:14,280 Speaker 1: my my uncle who you know, otherwise I'm I have 2104 01:39:14,360 --> 01:39:16,000 Speaker 1: nothing in common with a couple of weeks ago and 2105 01:39:16,439 --> 01:39:18,479 Speaker 1: him and I had a conversation which we hadn't had 2106 01:39:18,600 --> 01:39:20,479 Speaker 1: in like a couple of years, and I tried to 2107 01:39:20,520 --> 01:39:23,080 Speaker 1: be on common ground because that's trying, like, that's me 2108 01:39:23,160 --> 01:39:26,320 Speaker 1: trying to look at the world in this light. Now, 2109 01:39:26,439 --> 01:39:29,280 Speaker 1: you know, Uh, last couple of questions for you, and 2110 01:39:29,320 --> 01:39:34,880 Speaker 1: thanks for all the times. Uh, the last couple of 2111 01:39:34,960 --> 01:39:36,840 Speaker 1: questions for you. You're not even ten years out of 2112 01:39:36,880 --> 01:39:40,519 Speaker 1: high school. If that's weird, Yeah, And I still think 2113 01:39:40,520 --> 01:39:41,800 Speaker 1: that's crazy. And I think there's a lot of people 2114 01:39:41,800 --> 01:39:43,720 Speaker 1: who are going to be listening and think that's crazy too, 2115 01:39:43,720 --> 01:39:45,920 Speaker 1: because you remember your ten year high school unions or 2116 01:39:45,920 --> 01:39:49,559 Speaker 1: whatever else. But if you were about to have your 2117 01:39:49,640 --> 01:39:52,439 Speaker 1: twenty year high school reunion, so eleven years from now, 2118 01:39:52,520 --> 01:39:55,559 Speaker 1: a decade plus, what would you hope you have done 2119 01:39:55,640 --> 01:40:02,479 Speaker 1: by thirty eight that you haven't done b by thirty eight. 2120 01:40:03,800 --> 01:40:07,960 Speaker 1: I hope that, first off, I really just hope that 2121 01:40:08,000 --> 01:40:11,960 Speaker 1: I'm happy, because we can. I feel like this phase 2122 01:40:12,000 --> 01:40:14,479 Speaker 1: of my life, I'm realizing like I've already done a 2123 01:40:14,479 --> 01:40:17,280 Speaker 1: ton of stuff with my career, and um, that's it. 2124 01:40:17,439 --> 01:40:20,240 Speaker 1: It's it's not everything. Money, isn't everything your accolades, like, 2125 01:40:20,280 --> 01:40:22,639 Speaker 1: it's just not It's not what you want to leave 2126 01:40:22,720 --> 01:40:24,280 Speaker 1: the world with. So I hope that I'm in a 2127 01:40:24,280 --> 01:40:27,599 Speaker 1: place that I am happy and not so career obsessed, 2128 01:40:27,600 --> 01:40:29,320 Speaker 1: which I am right now. I hope that that kind 2129 01:40:29,320 --> 01:40:31,680 Speaker 1: of like dies down a little teeny tiny bit and 2130 01:40:31,760 --> 01:40:34,320 Speaker 1: I'm at a place that I'm happy with. But also 2131 01:40:34,439 --> 01:40:38,240 Speaker 1: that I just like keep on growing and taking on 2132 01:40:38,280 --> 01:40:42,080 Speaker 1: more opportunities and and just staying the same person and 2133 01:40:42,160 --> 01:40:45,479 Speaker 1: not becoming, um a jerk or an asshole. And I 2134 01:40:45,520 --> 01:40:47,800 Speaker 1: feel like going home helps that a lot, because my 2135 01:40:47,880 --> 01:40:50,400 Speaker 1: mom still lives in a very very small town with 2136 01:40:50,439 --> 01:40:53,200 Speaker 1: only like a hundred people. And so going back to 2137 01:40:53,240 --> 01:40:55,639 Speaker 1: those places where no one knows who you are and 2138 01:40:56,040 --> 01:41:00,600 Speaker 1: um you're treated like everybody else is is very grounding 2139 01:41:00,640 --> 01:41:03,000 Speaker 1: and a beautiful thing for me. And then I just 2140 01:41:03,080 --> 01:41:05,840 Speaker 1: keep on making stuff because we can, so we can 2141 01:41:05,840 --> 01:41:07,920 Speaker 1: get caught up in our busy day to day, Like 2142 01:41:07,960 --> 01:41:09,400 Speaker 1: we do a live show every single day, it's almost 2143 01:41:09,400 --> 01:41:11,280 Speaker 1: impossible to go home and have energy to do anything 2144 01:41:11,360 --> 01:41:15,840 Speaker 1: like a freaking two hour podcast right now. But UM, 2145 01:41:15,960 --> 01:41:17,680 Speaker 1: I hope I came on writing and making something that 2146 01:41:17,720 --> 01:41:20,400 Speaker 1: I'm really proud of. And um, I've got some projects 2147 01:41:20,479 --> 01:41:21,880 Speaker 1: on the on the back burner that I'm going to 2148 01:41:21,960 --> 01:41:24,160 Speaker 1: try and put my all into this year and snap 2149 01:41:24,200 --> 01:41:27,880 Speaker 1: again like I did when I was like ten years ago. Um, 2150 01:41:27,920 --> 01:41:31,599 Speaker 1: And I just hope I'm happy, I said last, this 2151 01:41:31,640 --> 01:41:33,920 Speaker 1: is the last question. So you are what I like? 2152 01:41:34,400 --> 01:41:37,240 Speaker 1: Is I like people who are honest, right and authentic 2153 01:41:37,439 --> 01:41:40,240 Speaker 1: and just saying what they think and what they feel. 2154 01:41:40,800 --> 01:41:44,040 Speaker 1: Um do you worry at all about being so open 2155 01:41:44,560 --> 01:41:46,880 Speaker 1: and you know sort of an arrow where there are 2156 01:41:46,920 --> 01:41:50,320 Speaker 1: almost no privacy at times? Right? Um? Or is that 2157 01:41:50,400 --> 01:41:53,080 Speaker 1: just something you're naturally comfortable with because there's people who 2158 01:41:53,080 --> 01:41:55,559 Speaker 1: are listening to this right now and they're going to say, Wow, 2159 01:41:55,680 --> 01:41:58,479 Speaker 1: I love Rahl. I didn't know her before, and they're 2160 01:41:58,520 --> 01:42:00,680 Speaker 1: gonna be like this. Every thing that she said in 2161 01:42:00,720 --> 01:42:03,160 Speaker 1: this podcast was so honest and I knew you would, 2162 01:42:03,720 --> 01:42:08,640 Speaker 1: but sometimes in our society that's rare. Yeah, well, I 2163 01:42:08,680 --> 01:42:13,599 Speaker 1: think that, Um, I don't know for me, Okay, when 2164 01:42:13,640 --> 01:42:15,679 Speaker 1: when I think about mental health, and I think about 2165 01:42:16,520 --> 01:42:19,840 Speaker 1: depression and anxiety, and I also have obsessive compulsive disorder 2166 01:42:19,920 --> 01:42:22,880 Speaker 1: that was really bad when I was younger. That used 2167 01:42:22,880 --> 01:42:24,760 Speaker 1: to make me feel crazy. I used to think that 2168 01:42:24,760 --> 01:42:27,040 Speaker 1: I was a crazy person and that nobody else on 2169 01:42:27,120 --> 01:42:30,000 Speaker 1: this planet felt that way, and that made me feel isolated. 2170 01:42:30,040 --> 01:42:32,759 Speaker 1: It made me feel disgusted when I thought about myself. 2171 01:42:32,800 --> 01:42:37,519 Speaker 1: I hated myself for that. And it wasn't until you know, recently, 2172 01:42:37,920 --> 01:42:40,800 Speaker 1: people have been more open about their mental health, and 2173 01:42:41,160 --> 01:42:44,080 Speaker 1: I've learned more about obsessive compulsive disorder because people talk 2174 01:42:44,120 --> 01:42:47,719 Speaker 1: about it more, and um, I've been able to feel 2175 01:42:47,760 --> 01:42:51,160 Speaker 1: more comfortable in my skin, and so I feel like, 2176 01:42:51,240 --> 01:42:53,839 Speaker 1: you know, there's there's nothing that I feel to attached 2177 01:42:53,920 --> 01:42:56,320 Speaker 1: to in my personal life beside maybe like my personal relationship. 2178 01:42:56,320 --> 01:42:57,960 Speaker 1: Would you guys like to make kind of almost every 2179 01:42:57,960 --> 01:43:01,360 Speaker 1: single day. Don't know that he's ever going to propose 2180 01:43:01,400 --> 01:43:05,599 Speaker 1: to you, to be honest. Besides that, like you know, 2181 01:43:05,680 --> 01:43:09,120 Speaker 1: every everything that I've been through, I hope talking about 2182 01:43:09,160 --> 01:43:11,080 Speaker 1: it helps other people go through it. Like the loss 2183 01:43:11,120 --> 01:43:13,320 Speaker 1: of my father, that was something that I was really 2184 01:43:13,320 --> 01:43:16,120 Speaker 1: really hard to overcome, and I can only hope. That's 2185 01:43:16,160 --> 01:43:19,240 Speaker 1: why I talk about it, is that people talking about 2186 01:43:19,360 --> 01:43:21,760 Speaker 1: things that pertain to me, when they're open about it, 2187 01:43:21,760 --> 01:43:24,360 Speaker 1: it's made me feel better. So then I realize, Okay, well, 2188 01:43:24,360 --> 01:43:26,880 Speaker 1: if I keep on pushing this and keep on talking 2189 01:43:26,880 --> 01:43:29,120 Speaker 1: about whether it's mental health or grieving and death and 2190 01:43:29,960 --> 01:43:33,400 Speaker 1: or success or being a female in sports, um or 2191 01:43:33,439 --> 01:43:35,920 Speaker 1: being really lucky, you know, there's so many people that 2192 01:43:35,920 --> 01:43:38,439 Speaker 1: could hear my story and be like, oh ship, like 2193 01:43:38,479 --> 01:43:40,719 Speaker 1: it doesn't matter, Like if I work hard, I could 2194 01:43:40,720 --> 01:43:43,720 Speaker 1: get lucky and and have this career that I've been 2195 01:43:44,000 --> 01:43:45,760 Speaker 1: been I've been hoping for. So I think it's so 2196 01:43:45,840 --> 01:43:50,439 Speaker 1: beneficial on in so many ways to be open about 2197 01:43:50,479 --> 01:43:54,439 Speaker 1: your struggles and also your winds as well, because you 2198 01:43:54,479 --> 01:43:57,400 Speaker 1: don't know who's listening, You don't know who it can 2199 01:43:57,439 --> 01:44:03,000 Speaker 1: eventually help are you happy now. I'm pretty happy. I'm 2200 01:44:03,040 --> 01:44:04,759 Speaker 1: getting there. I'm working on it. I go to therapy 2201 01:44:04,760 --> 01:44:06,840 Speaker 1: every single week and that's been really helpful. It's do 2202 01:44:06,840 --> 01:44:08,240 Speaker 1: you go to therapy? Do you talk to anybody? You 2203 01:44:08,240 --> 01:44:14,360 Speaker 1: probably should? I have so many, so many voices in 2204 01:44:14,400 --> 01:44:18,439 Speaker 1: my head. I just talked to them. Um No, I'm I'm. 2205 01:44:18,479 --> 01:44:20,080 Speaker 1: I can say I'm definitely working on it. I think 2206 01:44:20,120 --> 01:44:23,599 Speaker 1: I'm really I'm I'm finally this year, I'm like, wow, 2207 01:44:23,840 --> 01:44:26,080 Speaker 1: I can't believe I've done so much, even even like 2208 01:44:26,240 --> 01:44:28,240 Speaker 1: taking moments like this when I'm like looking back on 2209 01:44:28,320 --> 01:44:30,800 Speaker 1: my career, even though it's been fairly short so far, 2210 01:44:31,240 --> 01:44:33,439 Speaker 1: it's like I've done a lot and I've worked my 2211 01:44:33,640 --> 01:44:37,600 Speaker 1: butt off, like I'm exhausted, and I'm still going and 2212 01:44:37,640 --> 01:44:40,439 Speaker 1: I'm still so hungry for more. Um So, I don't 2213 01:44:40,439 --> 01:44:43,160 Speaker 1: know if the lever be uh. I hope that one 2214 01:44:43,200 --> 01:44:45,040 Speaker 1: day I can fully be like I'm good, I'm I'm 2215 01:44:45,040 --> 01:44:46,640 Speaker 1: really happy in this space. I think that I'm just 2216 01:44:46,720 --> 01:44:49,800 Speaker 1: so hungry right now for everything that's coming down the pipe, 2217 01:44:49,840 --> 01:44:51,800 Speaker 1: and and for this new season will block it in 2218 01:44:51,840 --> 01:44:54,599 Speaker 1: and next year and next year and next year, and um, 2219 01:44:54,640 --> 01:44:56,800 Speaker 1: I'm just like so excited. I just want to do more. 2220 01:44:56,840 --> 01:44:58,400 Speaker 1: I want to be exhausted at the end of every 2221 01:44:58,400 --> 01:45:00,439 Speaker 1: single day, like you do Ray Go Show, you do 2222 01:45:00,479 --> 01:45:02,559 Speaker 1: a podcast, you do television, Like do you probably feel 2223 01:45:02,560 --> 01:45:04,559 Speaker 1: so fulfilled when you hit your pillow everything that you're 2224 01:45:04,840 --> 01:45:08,240 Speaker 1: you're mentally and physically exhausted. I want to I want 2225 01:45:08,240 --> 01:45:11,360 Speaker 1: to be feeling those things. Rachel Banantta Go follow her 2226 01:45:11,400 --> 01:45:15,800 Speaker 1: on Twitter. She is outstanding. If you haven't before, I'm 2227 01:45:15,840 --> 01:45:19,040 Speaker 1: telling you that in the years ahead, and I rarely 2228 01:45:19,080 --> 01:45:21,360 Speaker 1: say this, in the years ahead, you're gonna do pretty 2229 01:45:21,400 --> 01:45:23,320 Speaker 1: awesome stuff, and I'm excited to see all the things 2230 01:45:23,360 --> 01:45:25,679 Speaker 1: that you're gonna do. But in the meantime, she's hanging 2231 01:45:25,720 --> 01:45:28,560 Speaker 1: out with us on lock It In every single afternoon. 2232 01:45:28,760 --> 01:45:31,360 Speaker 1: Go follower, And if you're listening to this year's down 2233 01:45:31,360 --> 01:45:34,280 Speaker 1: the line, I think it'll be cool if you tag us, 2234 01:45:34,640 --> 01:45:38,080 Speaker 1: assuming Twitter still around in ten years or My hope 2235 01:45:38,160 --> 01:45:41,160 Speaker 1: is in doing these long form podcasts that they almost 2236 01:45:41,200 --> 01:45:43,720 Speaker 1: stand as like, uh, you know, like different sort of 2237 01:45:43,760 --> 01:45:45,720 Speaker 1: seminal moments where people can go back and be like, oh, 2238 01:45:46,200 --> 01:45:47,800 Speaker 1: I hope that this is just as good to listen 2239 01:45:47,840 --> 01:45:50,639 Speaker 1: to in a decade as it is next. Pretty cool, 2240 01:45:51,280 --> 01:45:53,760 Speaker 1: very cool. Thanks for having anybody. 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