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Speaker 1: Now here's a highlight from Coast to Coast AM on iHeartRadio.

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Speaker 2: Sean Aswell is co author of We Meet Again in

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Speaker 2: the Eternal. He's an engineer turned spiritual explorer whose life

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Speaker 2: transformed after a two thousand and nine encounter revealed his

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Speaker 2: past as China's Guangzhou Emperor. With Sarah Chao, his co

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Speaker 2: author and past life consort. He blends analytical rigor with

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Speaker 2: metaphysical inquiry, framing reincarnation as a process of debugging human consciousness.

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Speaker 2: Through historical research, dreams, and guidance from trans channeler Kevin Ryerson,

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Speaker 2: Sewn uncovers karmic ties and synchronicities that challenge our understanding

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Speaker 2: of identity and destiny. His work merges engineering logic with

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Speaker 2: spiritual wisdom, offering a fresh lens on love, karma, and

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Speaker 2: the eternal soul. Sean as Well, Welcome to Coast to Coast, AM.

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Speaker 2: How are you hey?

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Speaker 3: Doing good? Thank you.

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Speaker 2: Great to have you here. So let's just dive right in.

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Speaker 2: You claim you were the Guangzhou Emperor and Sarah was

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Speaker 2: the Pearl concubine. First of all, just give us a

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Speaker 2: little history lesson here. Who was the Gangshu emperor and

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Speaker 2: who was the Pearl Concubine.

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Speaker 3: Sure, so he was the next to the last emperor

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Speaker 3: of China, and he is pretty well known in Chinese

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Speaker 3: history among Asian people in general because the influence of

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Speaker 3: China at the time. But he died rather early and

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Speaker 3: Pearl Concubine was his consort, his most closest confidant, and

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Speaker 3: she actually died a bit earlier, So they were around

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Speaker 3: in the late eighteen hundreds until about to nineteen oh eight.

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Speaker 2: All right, Now, was this, I don't know, initially like

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Speaker 2: a romantic fantasy or was there hard evidence you were

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Speaker 2: confronted with that sort of forced you to face this

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Speaker 2: unthinkable truth.

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Speaker 3: Yes, yeah, there was a lot of forcing involved. I

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Speaker 3: hadn't really spent much time looking at reincarnation. Like a

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Speaker 3: lot of people, people that listen to the show, people

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Speaker 3: that are interested in some of these topics, you kind

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Speaker 3: of get a rough idea of what reincarnation is based on,

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Speaker 3: you know, sort of general Buddhist principles, but there wasn't

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Speaker 3: really much of a focus on it until I met Sarah.

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Speaker 3: We met at a workshop in Albuquerque, and it was

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Speaker 3: pretty clear shortly after meeting that we had a much

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Speaker 3: deeper connection and she together over a few day period

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Speaker 3: at that workshop, the story started to unfold and it took,

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Speaker 3: you know, quite a bit of research afterwards. But it

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Speaker 3: definitely was not something that either one of us were

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Speaker 3: looking for. We both had busy lives and I was

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Speaker 3: going off in a different direction. She was starting a

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Speaker 3: new life. It was not something we're looking for, but

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Speaker 3: apparently it was something we were meant to find.

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Speaker 2: What was this workshop? Was this related to your engineering

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Speaker 2: field or was this a workshop about reincarnation?

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Speaker 3: What was it? Sure? No, it was a metaphysical workshop.

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Speaker 3: You're familiar with, say reiki?

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Speaker 1: Yes?

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Speaker 3: Oh yes, yeah, energy ye, energy healing, There you go.

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Speaker 3: It was an energy healing technique similar to reiki. What

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Speaker 3: had happened I had been for about fifteen years, I

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Speaker 3: had been self employeed to in my own my own business,

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Speaker 3: and I was told by Hans King, who was a

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Speaker 3: was going to write a book and that I would

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Speaker 3: know when the time was right. And it had gotten

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Speaker 3: to a point by two thousand and eight really that

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Speaker 3: I decided that I really need to I really need

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Speaker 3: to make a change in my life. Things were going well.

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Speaker 3: I was happy with my work, but I felt like

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Speaker 3: it was maybe maybe what Hans was saying was right.

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Speaker 3: It was time for me to make a change. So

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Speaker 3: shut down my business, got a cabin in North Carolina.

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Speaker 3: That workshop was the last workshop I was going to

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Speaker 3: go to before going to North Carolina to write a book.

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Speaker 3: And that's when we met.

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Speaker 2: So it was about Reichi and so Sarah came. You

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Speaker 2: know about her before. It was like you brought you

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Speaker 2: to unfold? This you you were talking about, I mean,

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Speaker 2: how did this come to be that you learned that

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Speaker 3: So I had flown in from Austin. She drove in

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Speaker 3: very uncomfortable because back in the nineties, her Chi Gong

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Speaker 3: we met it, it's she she started having dreams and

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Speaker 3: memories started coming back. I actually had a traumatic UH

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Speaker 3: So just synchronicity brought us together. And then she started

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Speaker 3: I had some some experiences as well, and I didn't

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Speaker 3: it hit me and I sent it to a few

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Speaker 3: and which that ultimately led to Kevin Ryerson and Walter

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Speaker 2: And we've posted pictures at the Coast to coastam dot

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Speaker 2: com website. I believe they're in the carousel there, Guangxi,

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Speaker 2: the emperor, the second to last emperor of China, along

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Speaker 2: with the pro concubine, and then next to each of

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Speaker 2: those there's a picture of you and then a picture

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Speaker 2: of Sarah. There's yeah, there's definitely some I mean it's

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Speaker 2: not exact, obviously, not carbon copies, but there there are

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Speaker 2: certain similarities in what was this dream that you had?

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Speaker 3: This vision?

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Speaker 2: Can you share that with us?

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Speaker 3: Sure? So it was on the third, the third day

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Speaker 3: the middle of the night in extreme emotional I had

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Speaker 3: a very emotional experience. I dreamed that someone drowned and

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Speaker 3: it was a very, very traumatic experience. I've never experienced

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Speaker 3: the time. Later, it became clear that that was a

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Speaker 3: that was a memory, you could say, it's not a

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Speaker 3: soul memory of what happened Pearl. The Pearl concubine Sarah

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Speaker 3: she was his closest confidant and they had spent many

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Speaker 2: So at what point did you and Sarah admit to

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Speaker 2: that you were the emperor and she was the pro concubine.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, that took some time, it was. I spent quite

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Speaker 3: a few, probably three months, doing a lot of research,

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Speaker 3: I found Walter Simq's work, and they they've done. Walter

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Speaker 3: And it's little things, little personality quirks that and again interests. Also,

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Speaker 2: And and Sarah, she's not with us tonight. She again

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Speaker 2: the reincarnation of the Pearl concubine, you believe, and she

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Speaker 2: believes she met a rather gruesome end. She was drowned

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Speaker 2: I mean that that the way that one dies in

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Speaker 2: a previous life can have serious impact on our present lives.

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Speaker 2: Is she afraid of the water today?

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Speaker 3: She does? She have that focus? She is, Yeah, she

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Speaker 2: Did how did m and how about the Guang She Emperor?

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Speaker 2: How did how did he meet his end?

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Speaker 3: Well, he was poisoned and similar similar situation in this life.

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Speaker 3: Just happened spontaneously. It went on for a couple of years.

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Speaker 3: Shortly after beating Sarah, that just dropped it fell away,

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Speaker 3: That was sort of an unconscious thing that popped up

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Speaker 2: in about a minute. But let me just get a

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Speaker 2: sense of who this Kevin Ryerson, gentleman is. This was

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Speaker 2: he conducting like past life regression sessions with your Who

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Speaker 2: was Kevin Ryerson?

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Speaker 3: Similar to Edgar Casey. He is a trance channel.

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Speaker 2: Uh.

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Speaker 3: He's associated with the are E. Uh. He was in

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Speaker 3: He's probably most well known for his work with Sherman McClean.

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Speaker 3: He was in her movie. Uh. He's he's been around

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Speaker 3: for a very long time. And Uh, great guy and

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Speaker 3: I've I've learned a lot from not just the sessions

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Speaker 3: a wealth of knowledge.

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Speaker 2: And and so did did you undergo past life regressions

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Speaker 2: with with Kevin? Uh?

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Speaker 3: We we had sessions where his his guides would come through.

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Speaker 3: Again it's sort of like Edgar Casey. He would say

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Speaker 3: his guides would come through and they would give information

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Speaker 3: to myself to Sarah. So that's the way that he works.

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Speaker 1: Uh.

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Speaker 3: We didn't go through past life regressions. He doesn't do

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Speaker 3: that in particular. But we received so much, so much

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Speaker 3: information from Kevin and from Hans King that we didn't

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Speaker 3: regression process.

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