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Speaker 1: First date of follow up powered by the Advocates Injury

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Speaker 2: Ruby is on the phone today for a first date

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Speaker 2: follow up and she's getting ghosted by a dude named Jordan.

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Speaker 2: So in a few minutes we'll call him and see

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Speaker 2: if he'll tell us why he's ghostinger and maybe get

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Speaker 2: her another date. But first, Ruby, how long has it

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Speaker 2: been since you heard from Jordan?

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Speaker 3: Hi, it's been nine days?

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Speaker 4: Okay, oh, okay.

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Speaker 5: How many times have you tried to reach out to him?

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Speaker 5: So I did a double text and I sent one

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Speaker 5: Instagram reel?

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Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, that last text was two days ago.

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Speaker 4: So you didn't make the reel.

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Speaker 3: I just sent like a top gun, like real, like

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Speaker 3: a jet reel. So I said, like, oh, still feeling

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Speaker 3: the need for speed.

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Speaker 4: So well, I'm sure that's an inside joke somewhere. So questions, well,

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Speaker 4: don't you tell us about your date? Ruby?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, it was an incredible date.

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Speaker 3: We went to an aviation museum. Uh oh and big

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Speaker 3: top gun fan so oh okay, yeah, it was my idea.

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Speaker 3: And he even did that quote.

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Speaker 5: He said, like I feel the need for speed in

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Speaker 5: front of me with the jets and it felt perfect.

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Speaker 4: It's like the fantasy.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, it was like kind of my dream day, honestly.

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Speaker 5: Like we grabbed burgers after two and then we talked

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Speaker 5: about our childhoods for like two hours maybe, and he

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Speaker 5: told me about how he built model planes with his grandpa.

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Speaker 5: I guess I'm confused why, Like, I don't know why

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Speaker 5: he's not talking like texting me. But we also kissed

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Speaker 5: in the parking lot and he really kissed me.

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Speaker 2: Okay, yeah, so it's like a good kiss, but you

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Speaker 2: don't know why he's ghosting.

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Speaker 3: Yes, Like why would you kiss me and start to

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Speaker 3: ghost me? It doesn't make sense to me.

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Speaker 2: Is there anything you can think of that would be

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Speaker 2: something that happened on the date that was awkward?

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Speaker 3: I don't know.

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Speaker 5: Maybe I like talked about like my hedgehog that passed

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Speaker 5: away during COVID.

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Speaker 4: I'm so sorry.

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Speaker 3: I showed him a.

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Speaker 5: Picture, right, it's the earn of my hedgehog. She's a

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Speaker 5: little tiny pick, like a tiny and pink. Or maybe

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Speaker 5: I asked him any questions about his grandpa.

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Speaker 3: I don't know. I was just curious, Like I didn't

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Speaker 3: mean to make a therapy or anything.

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Speaker 2: What why do you think the hedgehog would be a

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Speaker 2: reason he wouldn't call you back.

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Speaker 5: I just felt pretty emotional when I showed it to him,

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Speaker 5: Like I started to cry because it really was a

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Speaker 5: good she was really a good emotional support for me,

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Speaker 5: Like stem.

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Speaker 4: Yeah, maybe this was a hymn thing. You know how

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Speaker 4: some people get really overwhelmed by other people's emotions and

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Speaker 4: if you're somebody that can't really like carry your emotions,

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Speaker 4: like well or you's too much, I don't know, like

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Speaker 4: maybe he really liked you. But then it was like

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Speaker 4: I don't know how to express myself.

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Speaker 5: I hope he's like in an act, like he gone

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Speaker 5: to an accident and he's in the hospital, you.

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Speaker 1: Know, like.

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Speaker 2: He's doing okay. He just had a really good reason.

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Speaker 3: I get where you're go all right, And.

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Speaker 2: If you're just joining us, Ruby is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and she's getting ghosted by Jordan. So we're about to

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Speaker 2: call Jordan and see if he'll tell us why he's

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Speaker 2: a ghostinger and maybe get her a second date. But

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Speaker 2: before we do that, Ruby, why don't you break down

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Speaker 2: your situation again for us real quick?

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Speaker 4: Hi?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, so I went on an amazing day and it's

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Speaker 5: been nine days since he hasn't texted me back, and

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Speaker 5: we went to an aviation museum.

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Speaker 3: We had a great time.

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Speaker 5: He kissed me like really hard, and oh yeah, I

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Speaker 5: think I overshared about bubbles my hedgehogs who passed away.

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Speaker 5: And yeah, maybe I scared him by having like big emotions.

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Speaker 3: I'm not sure.

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Speaker 5: I think he might be in the hospital or an action,

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Speaker 5: because I honestly he really led me on.

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Speaker 2: Okay, well I hope not. Are you ready for us

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Speaker 3: No, but I guess we have to do it all right?

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Speaker 1: Here we go.

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Speaker 2: Hello, Hi, man, speak to Jordan.

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Speaker 3: Please, uh speaking?

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Speaker 2: Hey Jordan, how are you? This is a radio show.

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Speaker 2: It's called The Jebel Show.

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Speaker 4: Hi Jordan, I'm Nina.

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Speaker 2: Hi, I'm Victoria and my name is Jebel.

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Speaker 3: Is how many people? What is this?

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Speaker 2: Yeah, there's three people on the phone. It's a radio

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Speaker 2: show called The Jebel Show. Have you ever listened to us?

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Speaker 3: I think I have. Actually, I just don't know why

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Speaker 3: you're calling me now.

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Speaker 2: Well, we're calling you because we do a segment on

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Speaker 2: the show called the First Date follow Up. And what

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Speaker 2: that is is if you go on a date with

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Speaker 2: somebody and then end up ghosting them. That person can

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Speaker 2: email us to get you on the phone and ask

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Speaker 2: why you're ghosting them. So we got an email about you.

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Speaker 1: Oh now, okay, it's Ruby, isn't it.

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Speaker 2: Yes, it is Ruby. Congratulations. Do you mind telling us

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Speaker 2: why you're a ghostinger?

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Speaker 1: I don't know. It just it's we had one nice

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Speaker 1: date that it got a little weird.

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Speaker 4: What happened.

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Speaker 1: The date was awesome actually, but Ruby's awesome. She's smart, funny,

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Speaker 1: definitely interesting. But then she she told me about her

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Speaker 1: dead hedgehog within twenty minutes of meeting me and cried,

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Speaker 1: like real tears.

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Speaker 2: Right, Yeah, we talked to her about your day. She

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Speaker 2: did tell us that par she thought that might be

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Speaker 2: one of the reasons.

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Speaker 4: We found that kind of hard to believe because it

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Speaker 4: just feels a little bit, you know, harsh.

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Speaker 1: Well, yeah, I mean I didn't want it to be

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Speaker 1: a big thing, but she kind of made it a

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Speaker 3: Like, I mean, she really cried.

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Speaker 4: Did you comfort her?

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Speaker 3: I tried, but.

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Speaker 1: It was just a little overwhelming for me. So we

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Speaker 1: finished out the date and that seems like enough for me.

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Speaker 1: It's just a sign that might not be the best

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Speaker 2: The hedgehog thing.

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Speaker 3: That's it.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, well, you know what, it's not even just that.

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Speaker 1: She She also at one point showed me this, this

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Speaker 1: the hedgehog.

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Speaker 3: It was really a lot but the hedgehog.

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Speaker 2: Okay, so there's a lot of hedgehog.

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Speaker 1: Memorial for hedgehog. It was a lot of hedgehog, a

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Speaker 1: lot of here's a lot of hedhog.

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Speaker 2: All right, Well, thank you for telling us why you're ghostinger. Now, Jordan,

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Speaker 2: I'll let you know that Ruby is on the phone

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Speaker 2: and wants to talk to you.

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Speaker 5: Uh yeah, Hi, Drodan, it's Ruby. Hi you Ruby. You've

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Speaker 5: been ghosting me, haven't you.

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Speaker 1: Uh yeah, I mean you've been listening in so I

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Speaker 5: Wow, you are a jerk and you're ghosting me because

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Speaker 5: of Bubbles. You seem to have like run away from

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Speaker 5: commitment or any like issues that requires yet it seems yeah,

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Speaker 5: it's like you never had a pet, or you've never

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Speaker 1: Okay, I mean, hold on, this is a lot. This

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Speaker 1: is what I mean. This is a lot. This was

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Speaker 1: the first day and it's not even because of Bubbles.

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Speaker 1: It's because you told me about bubbles being dead within

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Speaker 1: twenty minutes of meeting me, and then you cried about

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Speaker 1: it for another twenty minutes, and then it's like you

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Speaker 1: wanted me to cry too. It's just I mean, come on,

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Speaker 1: it's a lot on date one.

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Speaker 3: So okay, I'm so sorry for having a heart.

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Speaker 5: I guess you should have talked about something more superficial,

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Speaker 5: like crypto or like sports injuries.

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Speaker 3: I guess I.

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Speaker 5: Really thought you were someone else, but like it seems

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Speaker 5: like you're showing me that you really are just like shallow.

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Speaker 1: I mean, you kind of should be a little lighter.

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Speaker 3: I'm the first meeting.

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Speaker 5: I mean, we're taking the point of dating is like

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Speaker 5: what marriage? Right, So like we're supposed to jump and

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Speaker 5: dive in pretty deep.

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Speaker 1: Not in twenty minutes of meeting someone. And then that

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Speaker 1: means me saying, well, how much deeper is it gonna go?

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Speaker 1: Crying about a dog?

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Speaker 5: You're counting the time when you meet someone on a date, like, oh,

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Speaker 5: there's a time where twenty minutes that's when she cried.

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Speaker 3: Oh yeah, But why did you kiss me after? Why

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Speaker 1: I mean I guess I just kind of felt bad.

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Speaker 1: It's I mean, you've been like mourning this hedgehog for

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Speaker 1: years and oh, oh my.

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Speaker 5: God, you are my first kiss. Who Yeah, that was

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Speaker 5: my first kiss, Jordan. I don't believe like you ruin

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Speaker 5: to be with my my soul may or something, but

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Speaker 5: you did it because of my pet that died.

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Speaker 3: I so I didn't know that.

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Speaker 1: I mean I would have guessed the first kiss would

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Speaker 3: Oh, I just can't believe it did that.

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Speaker 1: Oh, it's it's okay, it's all. We all go through things.

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Speaker 1: It gets better. You'll be You'll be fine. I didn't

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Speaker 1: know it was your first kiss. Than I am sorry

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Speaker 1: I ruined that.

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Speaker 3: Moment for you. You just don't ever do that to

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Speaker 3: your girl again.

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Speaker 1: Ruby.

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Speaker 4: Thinking about it like this, how many people actually end

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Speaker 4: like their very first kiss? Like, who's with that person?

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Speaker 3: I just wanted mind to be special. I was been

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Speaker 3: waiting for years for this moment, you know, like I'm three.

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Speaker 1: Wait, hold on, wait a minute. I thought that you've

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Speaker 1: had boyfriends before.

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Speaker 3: Yeah, well I may have cuddled with them, but I've

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Speaker 3: never kissed them. Well, we talked a little about this.

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Speaker 3: I thought it was more than just cuddling. I stocked

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Speaker 3: with six people, but I've never kissed them.

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Speaker 4: Oh oh why not?

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Speaker 5: Because I was trying to save it for my soulmates

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Speaker 5: and Jordan kissed me.

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Speaker 3: So now I really have to rethink my life is honestly.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I mean maybe you should have started with the

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Speaker 1: kiss and then saved the other stuff for the soulmates.

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Speaker 5: Yeah, well that's your opinion, but you really ruined my kiss,

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Speaker 5: so off Jordan's Oh