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Speaker 1: Hey, guys, welcome to I've never said this before with

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Speaker 1: me Tommy Di Dario. I am hanging out with two very,

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Speaker 1: very badass rock stars today.

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Speaker 2: Yes I am.

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Speaker 1: Nick Jonas and Adrian Warren are currently starring in the

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Speaker 1: beloved Broadway show the last five years and guys, ah,

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Speaker 1: what a treat it is to see their talent front

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Speaker 1: love from the Jonas brothers. He's had an amazing solo career.

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Speaker 1: I definitely sang his song Jella's quite often, maybe weekly.

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie. He's done blockbuster films and TV shows.

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Speaker 1: There is not much he hasn't done. And Adrian Warren

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Speaker 1: is Broadway at Royalty. She won the Tony for Tina,

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Speaker 1: the Tina Turner Musical.

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Speaker 1: She's done a bunch of other theater and she's leaving

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Speaker 1: her mark in Hollywood as well, appearing in Rustin with

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Speaker 1: Coleman Domingo and The Woman King with Viola Davis, and

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Speaker 1: together they are making magic in the last five years.

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Speaker 1: So they tell the same story but in opposite timelines,

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Speaker 1: meaning Adrian's character begins to the breakup Nick's character begins

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Speaker 1: at the first kiss, and both sides of this five

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Speaker 1: year relationship play out in ninety minutes or so in

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Speaker 1: a very heart racing event. And I think we've all

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Speaker 1: been waiting for this show to come to Broadway. It

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Speaker 1: is such a fan favorite show. Now, this is a

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Speaker 1: very special edition episode of my podcast because this interview

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Speaker 1: is from an event I'm moderated, presented by the prestigious

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Speaker 1: ninety second Street, Why New York. Make sure to check

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Speaker 1: out our future events and hey, you might even catch

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Speaker 1: me at one. So let's see if today we can

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Speaker 1: get Adrienne and Nick to say something that they've never

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Speaker 2: Hello, everybody, how are we today? Hello, well, welcome.

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Speaker 1: We're so excited to have Nick and Adrian here today.

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Speaker 1: Let's give it up one more time for them.

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Speaker 3: Thank you, thank you for being here.

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Speaker 2: This chair is so comfy, very comfortable, right, very very nice.

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Speaker 1: Well, welcome you to I'm so excited to celebrate you

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Speaker 1: and the show. Show that is just phenomenal. I'm not

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Speaker 1: sure how many people here have seen it, but if

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Speaker 1: you have, okay, all right, and if you haven't run out.

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Speaker 2: Go see it.

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Speaker 1: These two are just spectacular and we have a lot

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Speaker 1: of cover. So you all ready let's go okay, good good.

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Speaker 1: So the last five years is obviously a beloved show.

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Speaker 1: It's the first time that it's hitting Broadway in such

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Speaker 1: a big way. And I mean, you guys are the show.

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Speaker 1: Like the amount of work you put into this is unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: You're on stage the whole time basically between the two

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Speaker 1: of you. So my first question is what made you

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Speaker 4: Well, I have loved this score for a very long time.

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Speaker 4: I was first introduced to the score after my adult

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Speaker 4: Broadway as a kid. You know, we're talking about how

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Speaker 4: great it was, and I went out with my dad

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Speaker 4: Over the years, as my life and career took kind

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Speaker 4: you know, engaging in that conversation was was thrilling to me,

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Speaker 5: You know, it's the very thing I love about it is.

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Speaker 4: The thing that makes it such an enormous hill to

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Speaker 6: Thanks Nick. So my journey with this show was a

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Speaker 6: not musical theater, but just theater. But I remember watching

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Speaker 6: And Whitney White actually came to me we're working on

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Speaker 6: And she said, well, I'm directing it, and I think

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Speaker 6: I'd never sung the score with Jason before, so my

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Speaker 1: Well, it's hard to imagine this show without the two

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Speaker 1: So is there a moment of the show that, either

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Speaker 6: No, I mean for me, because it was very different.

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Speaker 6: There's a power that I have internally just because and

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Speaker 6: And that has happened to me. I've been in this

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Speaker 6: To tell a story because it's a story that I've

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Speaker 1: Yeah, yeah, well, we see it. We see it. And Nick,

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Speaker 5: It's a great question, you know.

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Speaker 4: I think that I have always been a person with

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Speaker 3: Well I did catch you one time, like he.

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Speaker 5: It's it's pretty much full.

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Speaker 5: We'll be sitting there talking about our day or not

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Speaker 2: You know what you're trying, trying It's all that matters.

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Speaker 4: as I'm just like looking at her as she does it,

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00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:46,240
Speaker 4: and it's you know, it's it's amazing to hear, to

443
00:21:46,320 --> 00:21:50,680
Speaker 4: hear not just the range that Adriane has as a vocalists,

444
00:21:50,680 --> 00:21:53,440
Speaker 4: but but how intentional every sort of like inflection and

445
00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,200
Speaker 4: note is not just too sounding good, but but telling

446
00:21:57,200 --> 00:21:59,760
Speaker 4: a story. And that's the the fun part to get

447
00:21:59,760 --> 00:22:02,240
Speaker 4: to work watch that, you know, the sort of excellence

448
00:22:02,240 --> 00:22:02,800
Speaker 4: of that.

449
00:22:04,680 --> 00:22:05,600
Speaker 3: I thanks Nick.

450
00:22:06,560 --> 00:22:10,280
Speaker 6: I actually watched Nick a lot off stage, but I

451
00:22:10,359 --> 00:22:13,240
Speaker 6: like trying to hide it so that when he doesn't

452
00:22:13,240 --> 00:22:15,760
Speaker 6: actually see me watching. Oh, I shouldn't even say this now,

453
00:22:15,800 --> 00:22:20,000
Speaker 6: you know, but there are times where I just marvel

454
00:22:20,040 --> 00:22:22,679
Speaker 6: and when he's singing moving too fast, the energy he

455
00:22:22,760 --> 00:22:25,919
Speaker 6: brings to that song is just he brings his rockstar

456
00:22:26,040 --> 00:22:28,160
Speaker 6: energy to that song, and I just I love it,

457
00:22:28,840 --> 00:22:31,800
Speaker 6: and it's it's just really fun to watch. And it's

458
00:22:31,840 --> 00:22:34,800
Speaker 6: always exciting just to see your friends doing great work.

459
00:22:34,840 --> 00:22:36,520
Speaker 3: And he does really great work in that number.

460
00:22:36,880 --> 00:22:37,720
Speaker 5: That's very good.

461
00:22:38,280 --> 00:22:41,119
Speaker 1: And I think what's so cool the show? Of course

462
00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,960
Speaker 1: it's a fan favorite. The score is so beautiful, your

463
00:22:43,960 --> 00:22:46,320
Speaker 1: emotions are so beautiful. And when I saw you both,

464
00:22:46,640 --> 00:22:48,520
Speaker 1: I was telling you earlier I saw you and Tina.

465
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Speaker 1: I loved you and Tina. You were such a rock

466
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Speaker 1: star yourself. You also are a rock star, right, I mean,

467
00:22:54,280 --> 00:22:57,320
Speaker 1: come on, there's two rock stars up here, and you know.

468
00:22:57,359 --> 00:22:59,440
Speaker 1: For Nick, obviously I know your music. I've seen you

469
00:22:59,480 --> 00:23:01,440
Speaker 1: over the year, so when I went to see you both,

470
00:23:01,520 --> 00:23:03,920
Speaker 1: I was like, let's see that, Like, okay, let's see,

471
00:23:04,000 --> 00:23:06,119
Speaker 1: let's see what we got right. And I was blown

472
00:23:06,119 --> 00:23:09,359
Speaker 1: away by your performances. And I think it's really hard

473
00:23:09,480 --> 00:23:13,840
Speaker 1: to have people forget about the pop rock star and

474
00:23:13,960 --> 00:23:16,560
Speaker 1: the Tina Turner and to transport us to a different

475
00:23:16,600 --> 00:23:19,240
Speaker 1: world where we see these new characters and you both

476
00:23:19,400 --> 00:23:22,040
Speaker 1: do it. Do you feel that when you go into

477
00:23:22,119 --> 00:23:25,000
Speaker 1: a project like I gotta work a little harder to

478
00:23:25,040 --> 00:23:26,480
Speaker 1: show people that I'm also this.

479
00:23:30,160 --> 00:23:33,120
Speaker 6: You know, there's some sometimes I think Lynn said Lynn

480
00:23:33,160 --> 00:23:35,160
Speaker 6: min wil Miranda came to the show and he said something.

481
00:23:35,200 --> 00:23:36,719
Speaker 6: He was like, oh, I heard like Tina come out.

482
00:23:36,760 --> 00:23:38,240
Speaker 6: And I was like, you didn't hear Tina come out?

483
00:23:38,280 --> 00:23:41,119
Speaker 6: You heard me that That is me. When I feel

484
00:23:41,160 --> 00:23:44,359
Speaker 6: a certain emotion, that is me when that's what my

485
00:23:44,520 --> 00:23:47,719
Speaker 6: voice does. You know, I actually sang rock and roll

486
00:23:47,800 --> 00:23:50,200
Speaker 6: before I did Tina. That's probably why I got that job.

487
00:23:51,280 --> 00:23:55,159
Speaker 6: But sometimes it is hard, especially when you have like

488
00:23:55,200 --> 00:23:56,600
Speaker 6: a huge moment with a role.

489
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Speaker 3: But I just see it as a challenge.

490
00:23:58,560 --> 00:24:01,760
Speaker 6: It's a challenge for me to more colors as an artists,

491
00:24:01,760 --> 00:24:04,639
Speaker 6: to challenge for me to dive a little deeper and

492
00:24:05,160 --> 00:24:08,199
Speaker 6: get to know myself more. I use every facility of

493
00:24:08,200 --> 00:24:11,480
Speaker 6: my voice, my mix. I've seen classical stuff in this show.

494
00:24:11,520 --> 00:24:14,080
Speaker 6: I do so I belt in this show. They are

495
00:24:14,160 --> 00:24:16,840
Speaker 6: very quiet moments in this show. I use every part

496
00:24:16,840 --> 00:24:19,680
Speaker 6: of my instrument in this show. And that doesn't happen

497
00:24:19,720 --> 00:24:22,760
Speaker 6: all the time in this in this industry. And I'm

498
00:24:22,840 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 6: just blessed and excited to to just find more colors

499
00:24:26,920 --> 00:24:29,840
Speaker 6: every single day. I'm still learning, I'm still evolving. You

500
00:24:29,880 --> 00:24:31,840
Speaker 6: come see me in another show after this, you'd be like, oh,

501
00:24:31,880 --> 00:24:36,359
Speaker 6: that's different too, because hopefully I'm still challenging myself to

502
00:24:36,440 --> 00:24:38,640
Speaker 6: do more and to learn more. And I never want

503
00:24:38,680 --> 00:24:42,200
Speaker 6: to stop learning. And I will fail at times. That happens,

504
00:24:42,320 --> 00:24:45,600
Speaker 6: and I will, but I am up for the journey.

505
00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:48,000
Speaker 6: And this is I've it's been in such a delight

506
00:24:48,040 --> 00:24:49,720
Speaker 6: to get to do something where I get to just grow.

507
00:24:51,080 --> 00:24:57,480
Speaker 5: What about you, Yeah, I think it's things interesting that.

508
00:24:59,000 --> 00:25:03,679
Speaker 4: Our investment in someone's previous work makes us question their

509
00:25:03,680 --> 00:25:07,159
Speaker 4: ability to do something else. But it does happen, and

510
00:25:07,200 --> 00:25:13,640
Speaker 4: it's a it's a strange psychological thing that I'd love

511
00:25:13,720 --> 00:25:19,040
Speaker 4: to speak to a professional about because because we sit

512
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:20,840
Speaker 4: there and we go, well, they were brilliant in this

513
00:25:20,880 --> 00:25:22,639
Speaker 4: other thing, or I know them for this where they

514
00:25:22,640 --> 00:25:25,680
Speaker 4: had a certain amount of notoriety, and then we're wondering

515
00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:29,440
Speaker 4: if they can achieve something else or a different texture.

516
00:25:29,480 --> 00:25:32,760
Speaker 4: At the core of it, they're a storyteller, they're a songwriter,

517
00:25:32,880 --> 00:25:33,720
Speaker 4: they're a performer.

518
00:25:34,720 --> 00:25:36,399
Speaker 5: They did something that struck a chord and.

519
00:25:38,880 --> 00:25:41,600
Speaker 4: They can probably do it again if they if they

520
00:25:41,600 --> 00:25:45,760
Speaker 4: tap back into that source. And I think it's it's

521
00:25:45,800 --> 00:25:50,240
Speaker 4: a thrilling thing to be in a spot where people

522
00:25:50,400 --> 00:25:55,280
Speaker 4: are are curious and even questioning if a performance or

523
00:25:55,640 --> 00:25:58,800
Speaker 4: an actor or whatever or can get there or can

524
00:25:58,840 --> 00:26:03,920
Speaker 4: transform the challenge is exciting and sort of a thrilling thing.

525
00:26:03,960 --> 00:26:08,120
Speaker 4: But it can't become the north star. You know, if

526
00:26:08,760 --> 00:26:12,199
Speaker 4: in my experience, anytime i've sort of led creative with

527
00:26:12,400 --> 00:26:16,000
Speaker 4: I hope I can prove this, I end up falling

528
00:26:16,000 --> 00:26:18,879
Speaker 4: flat on my face when I lead with this is

529
00:26:19,040 --> 00:26:22,560
Speaker 4: true to me? And this I think applies most to

530
00:26:22,720 --> 00:26:26,880
Speaker 4: my songwriting. If I've been in scenarios where my goal

531
00:26:26,920 --> 00:26:29,000
Speaker 4: is to come out with a hit, right, and every

532
00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:31,439
Speaker 4: single time I do that, it's not a hit. But

533
00:26:31,480 --> 00:26:35,160
Speaker 4: when I tap into something that's true or an experience

534
00:26:35,160 --> 00:26:39,439
Speaker 4: I've had that's real, I'm often either left with a

535
00:26:39,480 --> 00:26:41,840
Speaker 4: result that I'm really proud of, or it reaches people

536
00:26:41,840 --> 00:26:47,679
Speaker 4: and connects because there's something inherently you know worthy of

537
00:26:47,720 --> 00:26:49,760
Speaker 4: that connection in there. It's true, it's real, it's a

538
00:26:49,800 --> 00:26:52,280
Speaker 4: real life experience. And in the same way, with a

539
00:26:52,320 --> 00:26:55,000
Speaker 4: performance like this, there was no other way to approach

540
00:26:55,040 --> 00:26:59,000
Speaker 4: it than trying to to do something that felt real

541
00:26:59,119 --> 00:27:03,960
Speaker 4: and authentic. And yes, there were, I think for both

542
00:27:04,000 --> 00:27:06,840
Speaker 4: of us a lot of questions about how we would

543
00:27:06,880 --> 00:27:11,760
Speaker 4: portray these characters and how we would either rise to

544
00:27:11,800 --> 00:27:14,159
Speaker 4: the occasion or not. But I'm very proud of the

545
00:27:14,160 --> 00:27:16,600
Speaker 4: fact that our work started with trying to do something

546
00:27:16,680 --> 00:27:21,240
Speaker 4: true and real and authentic, and you know that that

547
00:27:21,400 --> 00:27:24,960
Speaker 4: was the goal and if nothing else we achieved that.

548
00:27:26,080 --> 00:27:27,400
Speaker 3: I want to speak to something else.

549
00:27:27,440 --> 00:27:29,760
Speaker 6: I think we live in a time of instant gratification,

550
00:27:30,400 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 6: and theater doesn't really work like that. Theater takes time.

551
00:27:35,000 --> 00:27:39,879
Speaker 6: Performances take time to evolve it. You know, when I

552
00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:42,439
Speaker 6: got here for on Broadway to do Tina, I had

553
00:27:42,480 --> 00:27:44,240
Speaker 6: already done this show on the West End for a

554
00:27:44,320 --> 00:27:46,639
Speaker 6: year and a half, and I want you guys to

555
00:27:46,680 --> 00:27:50,040
Speaker 6: know I didn't get Tina Turner's approval for that performance,

556
00:27:50,440 --> 00:27:53,840
Speaker 6: probably not until a few months into the run. So

557
00:27:54,280 --> 00:28:00,160
Speaker 6: it takes time for greatness, And just like an athlete practices,

558
00:28:00,560 --> 00:28:02,600
Speaker 6: it takes time for and shows come.

559
00:28:02,440 --> 00:28:03,680
Speaker 3: To Broadway immediately.

560
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:06,520
Speaker 6: These days, there are a lot of times shows used

561
00:28:06,560 --> 00:28:09,720
Speaker 6: to go regional, they used to tour, and then they come

562
00:28:09,760 --> 00:28:13,119
Speaker 6: to Broadway, and by that time, that cast knows what

563
00:28:13,160 --> 00:28:16,920
Speaker 6: their body feels like doing the show in Colorado, they

564
00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,320
Speaker 6: know what the show feels like doing it in Chicago,

565
00:28:19,440 --> 00:28:22,800
Speaker 6: they know what they need, they know everything, And by

566
00:28:22,800 --> 00:28:24,439
Speaker 6: the time they get to Broadway, they could do that

567
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,080
Speaker 6: with their eyes closed. They could do the show with

568
00:28:26,119 --> 00:28:30,239
Speaker 6: their eyes closed. That doesn't happen anymore because shows are

569
00:28:30,280 --> 00:28:34,360
Speaker 6: so expensive. So now in a time where people are

570
00:28:34,640 --> 00:28:40,400
Speaker 6: posting bootlegs immediately, or you're trying to get your show

571
00:28:40,440 --> 00:28:43,320
Speaker 6: on social media and seeing behind the scenes and rehearsal,

572
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:48,080
Speaker 6: there's no veil for anyone to fall down or get

573
00:28:48,120 --> 00:28:51,800
Speaker 6: back up or evolve in their show. And it's just

574
00:28:52,000 --> 00:28:55,160
Speaker 6: and it's really sad because and now I feel like

575
00:28:55,280 --> 00:28:58,800
Speaker 6: artists don't have that protection of evolving that they used to.

576
00:29:00,120 --> 00:29:02,760
Speaker 6: Jackson didn't become Jane and Jackson overnight. Michael Jackson didn't

577
00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,040
Speaker 6: become Michael Jackson overnight. And we don't have that protection

578
00:29:06,440 --> 00:29:09,080
Speaker 6: anymore because everything is on.

579
00:29:09,000 --> 00:29:10,920
Speaker 3: Our phones all the time.

580
00:29:11,480 --> 00:29:13,680
Speaker 6: And so when I see that the industry can be

581
00:29:13,880 --> 00:29:17,520
Speaker 6: very harsh at times to certain individuals or certain shows,

582
00:29:17,560 --> 00:29:20,280
Speaker 6: it's like, you have to give that show a chance.

583
00:29:20,600 --> 00:29:24,320
Speaker 6: We were just talking about a show that opened this

584
00:29:24,440 --> 00:29:28,520
Speaker 6: year that was probably gonna close and because it wasn't

585
00:29:28,520 --> 00:29:30,560
Speaker 6: given a chance, and now it's one of the top

586
00:29:30,840 --> 00:29:33,400
Speaker 6: contenders for Best Musical Look it up.

587
00:29:33,800 --> 00:29:37,000
Speaker 3: And I'm just and you know, and it's just we.

588
00:29:36,920 --> 00:29:42,600
Speaker 6: Have to give ourselves as artists an opportunity to grow, evolve, rehearse,

589
00:29:43,160 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 6: become great.

590
00:29:44,520 --> 00:29:45,920
Speaker 3: You don't get a Tony overnight.

591
00:29:46,160 --> 00:29:49,040
Speaker 6: I got a Tony because it was almost three years

592
00:29:49,080 --> 00:29:53,000
Speaker 6: of work before I got to the Broadway stage.

593
00:29:53,800 --> 00:29:57,560
Speaker 2: Yep, Oh, I like that. This conversation is fun.

594
00:29:57,640 --> 00:29:59,600
Speaker 3: I like this and I've been wanting to say that,

595
00:29:59,640 --> 00:30:00,400
Speaker 3: you know what, good.

596
00:30:00,240 --> 00:30:03,480
Speaker 1: For you though, good for you because I think I

597
00:30:03,520 --> 00:30:05,240
Speaker 1: think art is one of the most important things in

598
00:30:05,320 --> 00:30:07,760
Speaker 1: the world, and what you guys do as artists, you know,

599
00:30:07,840 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: on a daily basis, for the community, for the audience,

600
00:30:12,280 --> 00:30:17,440
Speaker 1: for humanity is so necessary. And that's why a show

601
00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:20,080
Speaker 1: like this is so fresh, because it did take a

602
00:30:20,080 --> 00:30:24,760
Speaker 1: big chance, right, and it is so followed for for

603
00:30:24,920 --> 00:30:26,800
Speaker 1: I don't know how long forever, and you guys are

604
00:30:26,800 --> 00:30:28,240
Speaker 1: doing it. You're the faces of it, and you're doing

605
00:30:28,280 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 1: it brilliantly, and I think that just can't be forgotten either.

606
00:30:31,880 --> 00:30:34,320
Speaker 1: It's what you're putting out with the show means so

607
00:30:34,440 --> 00:30:36,560
Speaker 1: much to so many people, so I hope you're both

608
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:37,640
Speaker 1: taking that in as well.

609
00:30:38,160 --> 00:30:38,400
Speaker 5: Yeah.

610
00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:42,760
Speaker 4: I think another really amazing thing about this this.

611
00:30:42,800 --> 00:30:44,040
Speaker 5: Run and this show.

612
00:30:46,360 --> 00:30:49,240
Speaker 4: That is this idea that they were introducing a lot

613
00:30:49,240 --> 00:30:52,560
Speaker 4: of people to Broadway as well. You know, we've seen

614
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:55,720
Speaker 4: from so many different parts of the world people coming

615
00:30:55,800 --> 00:30:58,360
Speaker 4: up and saying it's their first Broadway show and the

616
00:30:58,400 --> 00:31:00,200
Speaker 4: fact that it's this one one that I think is

617
00:31:01,160 --> 00:31:05,040
Speaker 4: you know, that has been studied by most people that

618
00:31:05,080 --> 00:31:08,640
Speaker 4: have done musical theater in some capacity, that is, as

619
00:31:08,680 --> 00:31:11,200
Speaker 4: you said, beloved by so many people who love musical theater.

620
00:31:11,600 --> 00:31:13,800
Speaker 4: But to see that that bubble kind of opening up

621
00:31:13,800 --> 00:31:16,680
Speaker 4: a little bit and introducing a totally new audience to

622
00:31:16,760 --> 00:31:19,360
Speaker 4: a piece that a lot of us have loved for

623
00:31:19,400 --> 00:31:21,880
Speaker 4: a long time is such an exciting and important thing.

624
00:31:23,200 --> 00:31:25,920
Speaker 4: And more than anything, I think that's the thing I'm

625
00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,840
Speaker 4: most proud of in this is to have been a

626
00:31:28,880 --> 00:31:33,000
Speaker 4: part of introducing people that may not have gone to

627
00:31:33,000 --> 00:31:34,720
Speaker 4: see Broadway show while they were in town for two

628
00:31:34,760 --> 00:31:38,560
Speaker 4: weeks coming and experiencing something that we all know and love.

629
00:31:38,680 --> 00:31:40,360
Speaker 4: Is you know, it's a magical thing to go to

630
00:31:40,360 --> 00:31:43,680
Speaker 4: the theater and see a live performance and really really

631
00:31:43,680 --> 00:31:45,520
Speaker 4: fun to hear that feedback.

632
00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:46,880
Speaker 2: Yeah, one hundred percent.

633
00:31:47,040 --> 00:31:49,440
Speaker 1: And I know this question is like picking your favorite

634
00:31:49,440 --> 00:31:53,040
Speaker 1: pet or kid, but is there a song for each

635
00:31:53,080 --> 00:31:56,200
Speaker 1: of you that you just love to do? Like every

636
00:31:56,320 --> 00:31:58,640
Speaker 1: night every day you're like, come on, now, it's my time,

637
00:31:58,760 --> 00:31:59,160
Speaker 1: let's go.

638
00:32:01,040 --> 00:32:02,720
Speaker 3: It changed. It used to be.

639
00:32:04,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 6: I can do better than that, which is near the

640
00:32:07,440 --> 00:32:09,920
Speaker 6: end of the show for me, but now it's actually

641
00:32:09,960 --> 00:32:11,320
Speaker 6: still hurting, which.

642
00:32:11,080 --> 00:32:15,120
Speaker 3: People are like, what, that's the saddest one. But I

643
00:32:15,480 --> 00:32:17,400
Speaker 3: just if you listen.

644
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:22,800
Speaker 6: Jason Robert Brown, incredible composer, one of the greatest composers

645
00:32:22,840 --> 00:32:25,719
Speaker 6: of our time musical theater in my opinion, and the

646
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:28,680
Speaker 6: way that he wrote that song, there's.

647
00:32:28,560 --> 00:32:29,720
Speaker 3: So much space.

648
00:32:29,840 --> 00:32:33,240
Speaker 6: There's like negative space right in the song, and it's

649
00:32:33,320 --> 00:32:36,160
Speaker 6: almost like you're waiting for You're waiting to hear what

650
00:32:36,240 --> 00:32:40,560
Speaker 6: Jamie has to say. And I just think there's something

651
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:46,360
Speaker 6: so beautiful about the way in which he crafted that song.

652
00:32:47,040 --> 00:32:51,120
Speaker 6: And the chords of the song actually resonate throughout the

653
00:32:51,200 --> 00:32:56,360
Speaker 6: show if you're listening carefully, and I think because it

654
00:32:56,440 --> 00:32:59,000
Speaker 6: sets up the show in the way that it does,

655
00:32:59,720 --> 00:33:03,360
Speaker 6: I find it so beautiful. I find such beautiful moments

656
00:33:03,360 --> 00:33:06,840
Speaker 6: in it every single night now, and I absolutely love

657
00:33:07,480 --> 00:33:10,680
Speaker 6: singing it, and I also love hearing people sniffling and

658
00:33:10,720 --> 00:33:13,600
Speaker 6: the audiences. It's just like the first number and people

659
00:33:13,640 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 6: are already weeping, and I just think it's a powerful number.

660
00:33:18,040 --> 00:33:21,280
Speaker 6: And I now understand why so many girls sing this

661
00:33:21,400 --> 00:33:21,880
Speaker 6: in school.

662
00:33:23,080 --> 00:33:25,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, you do it beautifully, you really do. And what

663
00:33:25,320 --> 00:33:27,000
Speaker 2: about you, Nick, Well, I'm still HEARDing.

664
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:29,400
Speaker 4: Is one of my favorite songs of all time, outside of,

665
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,240
Speaker 4: you know, my connection to the show.

666
00:33:31,280 --> 00:33:31,760
Speaker 5: I just I.

667
00:33:33,240 --> 00:33:36,320
Speaker 4: Would play it, you know, on nights where we'd have

668
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:38,840
Speaker 4: friends over and we would do this game where we

669
00:33:38,880 --> 00:33:41,440
Speaker 4: basically pick like a you know, a theme for that

670
00:33:41,520 --> 00:33:43,880
Speaker 4: round that everyone takes the phone and plays DJ and

671
00:33:43,920 --> 00:33:46,000
Speaker 4: plays a song that applies to the theme. And I

672
00:33:46,000 --> 00:33:48,960
Speaker 4: would like find a way to make the theme become

673
00:33:49,800 --> 00:33:52,320
Speaker 4: such a theater kid. Yeah, and so I could play

674
00:33:52,320 --> 00:33:56,320
Speaker 4: this song. And then as far as the one that

675
00:33:56,400 --> 00:34:00,480
Speaker 4: I like to sing, I mean, nobody needs to know

676
00:34:01,560 --> 00:34:05,720
Speaker 4: is I think it's it's got the most soul and

677
00:34:05,880 --> 00:34:07,480
Speaker 4: not I don't mean that in the sense of like

678
00:34:07,520 --> 00:34:10,439
Speaker 4: so it's like a soulful song. It's it's it's more

679
00:34:10,560 --> 00:34:14,760
Speaker 4: r and b uh in its sort of like musical

680
00:34:15,239 --> 00:34:19,480
Speaker 4: palette than than a lot of the rest of a

681
00:34:19,520 --> 00:34:21,759
Speaker 4: show for Jamie, and I love that, and I love

682
00:34:21,800 --> 00:34:23,840
Speaker 4: that I was empowered to lean into that part of

683
00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:25,800
Speaker 4: it in the way that I'm singing the song.

684
00:34:26,400 --> 00:34:29,080
Speaker 5: And and that is one thing.

685
00:34:29,000 --> 00:34:33,160
Speaker 4: That was was really liberating and empowering about I think

686
00:34:33,360 --> 00:34:34,880
Speaker 4: both of our experience. I don't want to speak on

687
00:34:34,920 --> 00:34:38,799
Speaker 4: your behalf, but Whitney really lifted us up in in

688
00:34:40,719 --> 00:34:43,960
Speaker 4: are you know our what we brought to these characters,

689
00:34:43,960 --> 00:34:46,919
Speaker 4: not just in the acting forms is but vocally and

690
00:34:48,200 --> 00:34:51,800
Speaker 4: really worked alongside you know, Jason Robert Brown and the

691
00:34:51,880 --> 00:34:55,880
Speaker 4: musical team too to find ways to highlight that and

692
00:34:55,880 --> 00:34:58,040
Speaker 4: and to allow for it to be different than it

693
00:34:58,080 --> 00:34:59,560
Speaker 4: has been performed in the past.

694
00:35:00,120 --> 00:35:01,160
Speaker 5: And with that song in.

695
00:35:01,080 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 4: Particular, I really feel like I was given agency to

696
00:35:04,600 --> 00:35:06,400
Speaker 4: kind of make it my own in a way vocally,

697
00:35:06,840 --> 00:35:09,640
Speaker 4: which makes it really fun to sing. Although it's a

698
00:35:09,680 --> 00:35:15,320
Speaker 4: really sad song about kind of ruining your life.

699
00:35:13,640 --> 00:35:15,960
Speaker 3: Which is so happy come if you.

700
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:21,000
Speaker 4: Haven't, But I really enjoy singing it, and I think,

701
00:35:21,080 --> 00:35:24,920
Speaker 4: you know, after this experience, I'll keep it in my songbook.

702
00:35:24,960 --> 00:35:28,680
Speaker 4: There are times when I do, you know, some gigs

703
00:35:28,719 --> 00:35:31,000
Speaker 4: where it makes sense for me to pull out something

704
00:35:31,040 --> 00:35:33,840
Speaker 4: from the different shows that I've been fortunate enough to

705
00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:36,520
Speaker 4: be a part of, and that one will certainly stay

706
00:35:36,520 --> 00:35:36,879
Speaker 4: in there.

707
00:35:38,080 --> 00:35:38,799
Speaker 2: That's really cool.

708
00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:40,480
Speaker 1: It's like a little piece will be with you forever

709
00:35:40,600 --> 00:35:43,879
Speaker 1: from this experience, which is really really cool. I think

710
00:35:43,920 --> 00:35:48,640
Speaker 1: that for me, this is also a show You're good, Okay.

711
00:35:48,320 --> 00:35:51,160
Speaker 2: Good, I'm not sure, Okay, We're good.

712
00:35:52,239 --> 00:35:54,920
Speaker 1: For me, this is also Yes, it's a very deeply

713
00:35:54,960 --> 00:35:59,759
Speaker 1: emotional and sad show in many ways, but I think

714
00:35:59,800 --> 00:36:03,000
Speaker 1: that a lot of people can relate, which is why

715
00:36:03,120 --> 00:36:06,319
Speaker 1: it's so if for everyone has seen it and maybe

716
00:36:06,360 --> 00:36:09,960
Speaker 1: has been in a relationship perhaps like that. I think

717
00:36:10,120 --> 00:36:13,600
Speaker 1: you feel things so deeply from your performances and from

718
00:36:14,080 --> 00:36:16,279
Speaker 1: the material that's given, and you know that we see

719
00:36:16,320 --> 00:36:20,680
Speaker 1: on that stage. Do you pull from your lives for

720
00:36:20,800 --> 00:36:23,360
Speaker 1: roles like this or do you keep it totally separate?

721
00:36:25,960 --> 00:36:31,719
Speaker 4: I I'll go first quickly, And I think that you know,

722
00:36:31,760 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 4: I have found like substitution in my my acting work

723
00:36:37,840 --> 00:36:42,120
Speaker 4: to be helpful at times and really frightening, meaning you know,

724
00:36:42,160 --> 00:36:45,080
Speaker 4: like I'm going to replace what's happening in this scene

725
00:36:45,120 --> 00:36:48,080
Speaker 4: with something I've experienced and imagine that that's what's happening

726
00:36:48,120 --> 00:36:51,200
Speaker 4: to me from this, this actual experience that I've lived,

727
00:36:52,120 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 4: or what would happen if someone I love like this

728
00:36:55,760 --> 00:36:57,319
Speaker 4: this happened to us, how would it make me feel?

729
00:36:57,320 --> 00:36:59,240
Speaker 5: And then you put that into the performance.

730
00:36:59,640 --> 00:37:03,000
Speaker 4: But I I think that with this because of the

731
00:37:03,120 --> 00:37:07,719
Speaker 4: journey that that you know, Jamie takes is one that

732
00:37:09,560 --> 00:37:15,000
Speaker 4: you know, I I think is really difficult and I

733
00:37:15,040 --> 00:37:18,680
Speaker 4: will never go through, you know. And I think that

734
00:37:19,120 --> 00:37:20,840
Speaker 4: replacement was not the key for me. It was just

735
00:37:20,840 --> 00:37:26,760
Speaker 4: about listening to every single word that I'm saying, obviously,

736
00:37:26,760 --> 00:37:31,400
Speaker 4: but also most importantly, what what Kathy's saying I was,

737
00:37:31,760 --> 00:37:34,399
Speaker 4: you know, studying the material, and I thought I knew

738
00:37:34,400 --> 00:37:35,759
Speaker 4: it so well, and I got into it and went,

739
00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:39,000
Speaker 4: oh my god, I had no idea that that's what

740
00:37:39,160 --> 00:37:41,960
Speaker 4: the actual word was there, or that that this musical

741
00:37:41,960 --> 00:37:45,680
Speaker 4: moment came in this way because of this other thing.

742
00:37:45,719 --> 00:37:47,640
Speaker 4: And there's all these connection points, and it just shows

743
00:37:47,640 --> 00:37:52,040
Speaker 4: the quality of the writing and Jason's ability to to

744
00:37:52,080 --> 00:37:54,680
Speaker 4: tell this story not just through words but through the music,

745
00:37:55,120 --> 00:37:59,359
Speaker 4: and his use of the English language is actually extraordinary,

746
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:05,719
Speaker 4: where there's there's connecting words that you think you know

747
00:38:05,920 --> 00:38:08,400
Speaker 4: and and I don't mean this, and and disrespectful at

748
00:38:08,400 --> 00:38:10,719
Speaker 4: all you think don't matter an and instead of a

749
00:38:10,719 --> 00:38:13,040
Speaker 4: butt or a butt instead and those types of things,

750
00:38:13,560 --> 00:38:16,160
Speaker 4: And then you realize just how important it is once

751
00:38:16,440 --> 00:38:18,520
Speaker 4: you have the time and the ability to sit with

752
00:38:18,560 --> 00:38:21,080
Speaker 4: someone as brilliant as him and hear him explain why.

753
00:38:21,960 --> 00:38:23,759
Speaker 4: And so as a songwriter, was really inspired to go

754
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:27,160
Speaker 4: in and just get better at writing music, but to

755
00:38:27,760 --> 00:38:29,000
Speaker 4: try to do things.

756
00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,360
Speaker 5: You know that that.

757
00:38:32,920 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 4: That sound great and and are you know, exciting to

758
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,560
Speaker 4: listen to, but but just have that that real intentionality

759
00:38:39,800 --> 00:38:43,040
Speaker 4: and you know, that's that's something that I think he

760
00:38:43,400 --> 00:38:44,760
Speaker 4: mastered in this in this show.

761
00:38:46,360 --> 00:38:54,600
Speaker 5: But to answer your question, no, the yeah substitution.

762
00:38:54,160 --> 00:38:55,960
Speaker 4: Where it was just about listening to to the words

763
00:38:56,160 --> 00:39:01,920
Speaker 4: and and really again trying to stay present in it.

764
00:39:01,960 --> 00:39:05,440
Speaker 6: For me, I came to this character. I came to

765
00:39:05,480 --> 00:39:08,880
Speaker 6: Kathy with a perspective and a point of view. But

766
00:39:10,719 --> 00:39:15,040
Speaker 6: and I think I've been Kathy. There are moments in

767
00:39:15,080 --> 00:39:18,160
Speaker 6: my life where I feel like I've been Jamie. I

768
00:39:19,200 --> 00:39:21,800
Speaker 6: have been the girl trying to make her way in

769
00:39:21,840 --> 00:39:24,600
Speaker 6: New York City. I'm from Virginia, none of my family

770
00:39:24,680 --> 00:39:27,759
Speaker 6: is here. I came here with a dream and a

771
00:39:28,160 --> 00:39:32,360
Speaker 6: hope and a prayer and ten dollars in my pocket,

772
00:39:32,600 --> 00:39:35,840
Speaker 6: you know. And and so I have had that experience.

773
00:39:35,920 --> 00:39:39,319
Speaker 6: So yes, taking that bringing that point of view into this,

774
00:39:39,480 --> 00:39:43,560
Speaker 6: into this character, into the show definitely. But similarly to

775
00:39:43,880 --> 00:39:46,799
Speaker 6: what Nick is saying, we actually spent the first half

776
00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:52,120
Speaker 6: of our rehearsal not singing at all, just speaking the lyrics.

777
00:39:52,520 --> 00:39:56,239
Speaker 6: And when you have the composer in the room, and

778
00:39:56,360 --> 00:39:58,120
Speaker 6: I actually asked, Jason.

779
00:39:57,719 --> 00:40:00,640
Speaker 3: Can you do me a favor? Can you I've heard.

780
00:40:00,280 --> 00:40:03,040
Speaker 6: This done so many different ways, can you just play

781
00:40:03,120 --> 00:40:08,080
Speaker 6: what you wrote? And when he played what he initially wrote,

782
00:40:08,800 --> 00:40:12,680
Speaker 6: I went why. I've never heard anybody saying that, And

783
00:40:12,719 --> 00:40:16,319
Speaker 6: then I realized he told me why. And because this

784
00:40:16,440 --> 00:40:20,120
Speaker 6: is a show that is loosely based off of his life,

785
00:40:20,239 --> 00:40:23,120
Speaker 6: I know that there's intention behind every choice that he

786
00:40:23,320 --> 00:40:27,000
Speaker 6: made as an artist as a composer, and I wanted

787
00:40:27,040 --> 00:40:30,360
Speaker 6: to honor that and then find my way as an

788
00:40:30,440 --> 00:40:32,400
Speaker 6: artist to put my little stamp on it as well.

789
00:40:32,480 --> 00:40:35,680
Speaker 6: But that was the most important thing. And when he

790
00:40:35,800 --> 00:40:38,720
Speaker 6: shared those stories with me, or he shared that intention

791
00:40:38,880 --> 00:40:42,799
Speaker 6: about that lyric or intention about that chord, that did

792
00:40:42,800 --> 00:40:46,120
Speaker 6: all the work for me. And the work that Whitney White,

793
00:40:46,160 --> 00:40:48,760
Speaker 6: our director, did with Nick and I and just creating

794
00:40:48,760 --> 00:40:52,680
Speaker 6: trust in relationship. I didn't need to substitute any relationship

795
00:40:52,760 --> 00:40:53,680
Speaker 6: or anything into that.

796
00:40:53,719 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 3: And of course, what you go through.

797
00:40:55,480 --> 00:40:58,280
Speaker 6: In life, you may be thinking about it before the show,

798
00:40:58,320 --> 00:41:00,880
Speaker 6: but you find ways, hopefully to use it in a

799
00:41:00,920 --> 00:41:03,080
Speaker 6: way that is that is safe.

800
00:41:03,680 --> 00:41:05,920
Speaker 3: Sometimes it's it can be dangerous.

801
00:41:05,480 --> 00:41:08,399
Speaker 6: Bringing in your life in that way, but that I've

802
00:41:08,440 --> 00:41:10,800
Speaker 6: found has been really helpful. Just staying true to the

803
00:41:10,920 --> 00:41:13,840
Speaker 6: lyric and and what Jason wrote, it does all the

804
00:41:13,880 --> 00:41:14,359
Speaker 6: work you need.

805
00:41:20,200 --> 00:41:23,160
Speaker 1: We have some amazing audience questions. I am not responsible

806
00:41:23,160 --> 00:41:25,880
Speaker 1: for anything. I'm about to say, so let's see what

807
00:41:25,920 --> 00:41:31,400
Speaker 1: we got. Christine wrote Roe D one oh five, very specific.

808
00:41:31,440 --> 00:41:31,960
Speaker 2: I love that.

809
00:41:33,520 --> 00:41:36,400
Speaker 1: From Christine Road one o five. What advice do you

810
00:41:36,520 --> 00:41:42,200
Speaker 1: have for someone studying musical or performance theater? My niece,

811
00:41:42,360 --> 00:41:46,439
Speaker 1: Maddie Lions. My niece, Maddie Lions. Christine, what does that mean?

812
00:41:48,200 --> 00:41:48,520
Speaker 5: Oh?

813
00:41:49,080 --> 00:41:50,080
Speaker 3: Put it for your niece.

814
00:41:50,120 --> 00:41:50,680
Speaker 2: I love that.

815
00:41:50,920 --> 00:41:53,600
Speaker 3: Okay, great, got it?

816
00:41:52,920 --> 00:41:57,640
Speaker 1: Oh oh there's more. Okay, Christine, she is studying at

817
00:41:57,680 --> 00:41:58,960
Speaker 1: Pace now. You know it could have used a little

818
00:41:59,000 --> 00:42:01,399
Speaker 1: arrow right there, but it's fine. She's studying at Pace now.

819
00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:01,760
Speaker 2: Ps.

820
00:42:01,840 --> 00:42:05,399
Speaker 1: We are seeing this play at the end of May.

821
00:42:05,440 --> 00:42:10,960
Speaker 6: So advice, My advice would be, don't box yourself in.

822
00:42:11,320 --> 00:42:14,880
Speaker 6: Continue to be a student of the world, continue to

823
00:42:14,960 --> 00:42:18,560
Speaker 6: learn all kinds of music. The second someone thinks they

824
00:42:18,640 --> 00:42:21,040
Speaker 6: know what you can sing and what you can do,

825
00:42:21,200 --> 00:42:23,240
Speaker 6: you always can surprise them with something else.

826
00:42:24,080 --> 00:42:26,080
Speaker 3: And I think that has.

827
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,880
Speaker 6: Been one of the greatest gifts is every role that

828
00:42:29,960 --> 00:42:33,000
Speaker 6: I've been given, I walked into that room thinking I

829
00:42:33,040 --> 00:42:36,680
Speaker 6: could not do it, or that it was too much

830
00:42:36,719 --> 00:42:39,920
Speaker 6: of a challenge for me, or who how dare I?

831
00:42:40,000 --> 00:42:43,000
Speaker 6: And every single time I came out came in that

832
00:42:43,120 --> 00:42:46,160
Speaker 6: room as a student and every single time. It changed

833
00:42:46,160 --> 00:42:48,280
Speaker 6: my life.

834
00:42:48,440 --> 00:42:57,439
Speaker 4: It's a great answer, Thanks Gay, Yes, and everything she said.

835
00:43:00,160 --> 00:43:04,800
Speaker 4: And do improv. I mean she should take some improv classes.

836
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:10,840
Speaker 4: I've didn't go to a musical theater school. My training

837
00:43:10,920 --> 00:43:13,920
Speaker 4: kind of happened in the you know, the work I

838
00:43:14,000 --> 00:43:16,239
Speaker 4: was doing both Broadway as a kid and then as

839
00:43:16,239 --> 00:43:17,320
Speaker 4: I started acting more.

840
00:43:17,840 --> 00:43:19,359
Speaker 6: And I think it was a principal on like his

841
00:43:19,360 --> 00:43:23,000
Speaker 6: first show on Broadway.

842
00:43:22,520 --> 00:43:23,759
Speaker 2: Truth Truth.

843
00:43:23,800 --> 00:43:26,880
Speaker 4: But I when I got into my early teens, I

844
00:43:26,880 --> 00:43:29,880
Speaker 4: started taking improv classes and doing improv work with a

845
00:43:29,920 --> 00:43:32,760
Speaker 4: person that's been a mentor to me, an amazing performer

846
00:43:32,840 --> 00:43:37,120
Speaker 4: named Rob McClure. And it was really important to my

847
00:43:37,239 --> 00:43:40,080
Speaker 4: ability to have empathy and compassion as a performer as

848
00:43:40,120 --> 00:43:43,560
Speaker 4: an artist, and also I think made my performances over

849
00:43:43,600 --> 00:43:45,960
Speaker 4: time more dynamic. And I think it's an important tool

850
00:43:46,000 --> 00:43:47,880
Speaker 4: that everyone should have in their repertoire.

851
00:43:48,280 --> 00:43:50,359
Speaker 1: All Right, that's some great advice. Thank you for that.

852
00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,440
Speaker 1: The next question, niece, Yes, good luck to her. Shelley

853
00:43:54,560 --> 00:43:57,680
Speaker 1: has a question for you, Nick. Nick, you recently shared

854
00:43:57,719 --> 00:44:00,600
Speaker 1: that it was your decision to make Jamie New York

855
00:44:00,760 --> 00:44:05,480
Speaker 1: basketball fan. What other personal touches did you bring to

856
00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:07,000
Speaker 1: the role of Jamie.

857
00:44:09,200 --> 00:44:09,720
Speaker 5: Go Nicks.

858
00:44:12,120 --> 00:44:14,799
Speaker 6: Yeah, it's it's you know, it was so good, Like

859
00:44:14,960 --> 00:44:18,000
Speaker 6: he wanted to do this so bad, Like he was like, Asrian,

860
00:44:18,000 --> 00:44:20,719
Speaker 6: I'm gonna make content about Jamie being a Knicks fan.

861
00:44:20,800 --> 00:44:29,839
Speaker 4: I was like, content is key, guys, so that's one

862
00:44:30,040 --> 00:44:32,400
Speaker 4: obviously the sports fans. But there was like a little

863
00:44:32,400 --> 00:44:34,399
Speaker 4: list in the back of my head of things and

864
00:44:34,640 --> 00:44:38,920
Speaker 4: you know, ways to to make Jamie uh dynamic and

865
00:44:40,239 --> 00:44:45,600
Speaker 4: you know, living breathing person and none of us in

866
00:44:45,680 --> 00:44:48,240
Speaker 4: this room or any one thing. There are things about

867
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:51,480
Speaker 4: us and are you know where we come from, our background,

868
00:44:51,520 --> 00:44:54,520
Speaker 4: our families that all matter, are part of our story.

869
00:44:54,920 --> 00:44:56,359
Speaker 5: But no one thing defines you.

870
00:44:57,280 --> 00:44:59,759
Speaker 4: I think that as much as you can add to

871
00:44:59,880 --> 00:45:02,040
Speaker 4: the plate at first and then start to see what

872
00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 4: really matters or is you know something that that that

873
00:45:05,120 --> 00:45:09,080
Speaker 4: adds value or or contributes to making that person seem

874
00:45:09,120 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 4: like a living, breathing being the better And you have

875
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:15,359
Speaker 4: to you have to be willing to let things go

876
00:45:15,440 --> 00:45:18,640
Speaker 4: too along the way. And that's you know something that

877
00:45:18,680 --> 00:45:21,640
Speaker 4: I love about the I loved about this process was

878
00:45:22,360 --> 00:45:24,480
Speaker 4: we would each come in with big ideas and we

879
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,520
Speaker 4: would like try different things and and maybe feel really

880
00:45:27,560 --> 00:45:29,600
Speaker 4: passionate about a certain thing one day, and then the

881
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Speaker 4: next we realized it wasn't as important as we thought

882
00:45:32,239 --> 00:45:34,399
Speaker 4: it was, and this was actually the thing to focus on.

883
00:45:36,360 --> 00:45:38,319
Speaker 5: But I think it's it's really.

884
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Speaker 4: A wonderful experience to get to bring something to life

885
00:45:44,800 --> 00:45:47,279
Speaker 4: and know that what's on the page is so good

886
00:45:47,320 --> 00:45:49,600
Speaker 4: that you can just jump off from there and have

887
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Speaker 4: fun with it and make your character a Nicks fan.

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Speaker 1: We love it. We love to see it. Thank you

889
00:45:54,960 --> 00:45:58,880
Speaker 1: Shelly for the question. This one is from Crystal. What

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00:45:59,080 --> 00:46:02,000
Speaker 1: is one number you would love to perform from each

891
00:46:02,040 --> 00:46:02,920
Speaker 1: other's set?

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00:46:06,040 --> 00:46:11,640
Speaker 6: Hmm, moving too fast? Definitely? Oh, I'll sing it backstage

893
00:46:11,640 --> 00:46:12,399
Speaker 6: with you every day.

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00:46:12,520 --> 00:46:14,040
Speaker 3: You don't know, now you do.

895
00:46:16,520 --> 00:46:18,880
Speaker 4: We actually thought it'd be funny to just do a

896
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Speaker 4: show where we just switch switch roles.

897
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Speaker 6: Just don't tell anyone, just start the show that way.

898
00:46:26,200 --> 00:46:27,560
Speaker 5: I mean the funny part.

899
00:46:27,600 --> 00:46:31,600
Speaker 4: It would work still, obviously, and that's what makes it brilliant.

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00:46:31,640 --> 00:46:32,839
Speaker 3: Oh you doing summer at all?

901
00:46:32,920 --> 00:46:33,120
Speaker 5: Oh?

902
00:46:33,239 --> 00:46:40,560
Speaker 4: Yes, never mind, it's a terrible idea. Do you want

903
00:46:40,600 --> 00:46:44,400
Speaker 4: to do a little nothing? I'm contracted to play the

904
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Speaker 4: role of Jamie and Jamie only Yeah, I actually did

905
00:46:50,680 --> 00:46:58,400
Speaker 4: sing I'm still hurting at miss Fit, which was Miscast Misfits.

906
00:46:59,000 --> 00:47:04,960
Speaker 4: It's been a long week Miscast, and I really enjoyed

907
00:47:04,960 --> 00:47:10,520
Speaker 4: singing that song, but I think it's actually the audition sequence.

908
00:47:10,760 --> 00:47:13,520
Speaker 4: I love that hole that whole bit. I would I

909
00:47:13,520 --> 00:47:16,799
Speaker 4: would have fun with that. I sing that backstage. There's

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00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:21,640
Speaker 4: like this one. Yeah, there's this one moment in the

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00:47:21,680 --> 00:47:25,239
Speaker 4: show where I can, you know, sort of like cool down.

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Speaker 5: There's like this little area.

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Speaker 4: It's weirdly, it's like a kitchen that's next to the stage.

914
00:47:30,640 --> 00:47:32,879
Speaker 4: It's so strange, but it's an old theater and it's

915
00:47:32,920 --> 00:47:33,880
Speaker 4: got this little room.

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00:47:33,880 --> 00:47:34,920
Speaker 5: So I go in there.

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Speaker 4: I tell them I'm singing along, and I'm also that's

918
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Speaker 4: the woman I can check the score of a Knicks

919
00:47:40,280 --> 00:47:47,600
Speaker 4: game my phone, and yesterday when I opened my phone, No,

920
00:47:47,680 --> 00:47:50,960
Speaker 4: it's fine, it's all good. It did just start playing

921
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Speaker 4: a song really loudly, though, And it was during Goodbye

922
00:47:56,160 --> 00:47:56,960
Speaker 4: Till Tomorrow, and.

923
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Speaker 6: I was blaming it on the audience, and it wasn't

924
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Speaker 6: it the whole time.

925
00:48:01,320 --> 00:48:05,040
Speaker 4: But I was I was gonna come in today and

926
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Speaker 4: be like, whose phone was that last?

927
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Speaker 5: Just immediately get ahead of it. I didn't do that.

928
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Speaker 5: I was honest with you.

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Speaker 2: Okay, we love to see it. I love that. Thank

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00:48:16,640 --> 00:48:17,480
Speaker 2: you for that question.

931
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Speaker 1: Next up, Tina H wants to know what song has

932
00:48:21,880 --> 00:48:24,960
Speaker 1: evolved the most for you since the beginning of the show.

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00:48:26,400 --> 00:48:27,160
Speaker 5: Moving Too Fast.

934
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Speaker 4: Yeah, so the brilliant Cooperman brothers choreographed our show, and

935
00:48:33,560 --> 00:48:36,839
Speaker 4: they had a lot of Yes, they had a lot

936
00:48:36,840 --> 00:48:39,840
Speaker 4: of amazing ideas that this is kind of what I

937
00:48:39,880 --> 00:48:41,319
Speaker 4: was talking about before. You put everything on the plate

938
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,400
Speaker 4: and you sort of see at the end what really

939
00:48:43,840 --> 00:48:47,759
Speaker 4: needs to be there to complete the the dish. I

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00:48:47,760 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 4: don't know the analogy is here, but you get what

941
00:48:49,920 --> 00:48:55,760
Speaker 4: I'm saying. And during the early process of Moving Too Fast,

942
00:48:56,880 --> 00:48:58,640
Speaker 4: I was eager to have it be really physical, so

943
00:48:58,680 --> 00:49:00,680
Speaker 4: I was sort of like pushing for their be always like,

944
00:49:01,680 --> 00:49:04,439
Speaker 4: you know, jumps up and down these platforms, different things,

945
00:49:04,440 --> 00:49:08,480
Speaker 4: and it's an already very hard song to sing, and

946
00:49:08,560 --> 00:49:10,919
Speaker 4: for whatever reason, I was like punishing myself trying to make.

947
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Speaker 5: It even harder.

948
00:49:11,840 --> 00:49:14,440
Speaker 4: And they were so cool and we're game to try anything,

949
00:49:15,719 --> 00:49:20,439
Speaker 4: but very wisely, you know, pulled me back a bit

950
00:49:20,520 --> 00:49:22,840
Speaker 4: and we're like we we also don't need to do

951
00:49:23,080 --> 00:49:26,000
Speaker 4: like you jumping off a platform form and swinging off

952
00:49:26,000 --> 00:49:26,399
Speaker 4: this thing.

953
00:49:27,640 --> 00:49:29,239
Speaker 5: But I think that that was a really.

954
00:49:29,400 --> 00:49:34,960
Speaker 4: Wonderful example of how, you know, the creative process has

955
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:36,920
Speaker 4: to go on its journey and be whatever it's going

956
00:49:36,960 --> 00:49:41,160
Speaker 4: to be, and you know, brilliant collaborators and you know

957
00:49:41,160 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 4: teammates like that are going to let you do it

958
00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,520
Speaker 4: and then pull you back to where you need to

959
00:49:46,520 --> 00:49:47,719
Speaker 4: be to be able to do it eight shows a

960
00:49:47,719 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 4: week and to sing it well and all those things.

961
00:49:50,080 --> 00:49:52,759
Speaker 5: So after we had stripped it back a bit, I

962
00:49:52,800 --> 00:49:54,839
Speaker 5: was like, wait, this is so easy to sing this song.

963
00:49:55,160 --> 00:49:58,960
Speaker 4: And so I started thinking, did they use like reverse psychology?

964
00:49:59,120 --> 00:49:59,319
Speaker 2: Yeah?

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00:50:00,440 --> 00:50:03,840
Speaker 5: And if that is true, then wow, that's another layer.

966
00:50:05,280 --> 00:50:08,560
Speaker 6: That was also you because Nick is fearless and he

967
00:50:08,640 --> 00:50:11,120
Speaker 6: would literally try everything and I'd be on the side,

968
00:50:11,200 --> 00:50:14,040
Speaker 6: be like eight shows a week, eight shows a week.

969
00:50:14,360 --> 00:50:16,680
Speaker 6: But it was kind of incredible to watch that process.

970
00:50:17,160 --> 00:50:21,359
Speaker 6: He's pretty fearless. For me, I think, I don't know.

971
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Speaker 6: I think a lot of my things evolved quite a bit, y'all.

972
00:50:25,920 --> 00:50:29,200
Speaker 6: I was dancing a lot when we first put this

973
00:50:29,239 --> 00:50:31,719
Speaker 6: thing together, and then it just kind of was like

974
00:50:31,840 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 6: I have to change clothes, like when is it going

975
00:50:34,200 --> 00:50:37,640
Speaker 6: to happen? And then we started just kind of stripping

976
00:50:37,719 --> 00:50:40,200
Speaker 6: everything back some are in Ohio.

977
00:50:40,640 --> 00:50:42,879
Speaker 3: Still ended up being what it was, but.

978
00:50:44,120 --> 00:50:47,400
Speaker 6: I think for me, just in the run of the show,

979
00:50:47,600 --> 00:50:50,080
Speaker 6: that number has evolved a lot. It used to be

980
00:50:50,280 --> 00:50:52,279
Speaker 6: very Now for those who don't come, I don't I

981
00:50:52,320 --> 00:50:55,759
Speaker 6: want to ruin it for you. Maybe the audition scene

982
00:50:55,760 --> 00:50:56,920
Speaker 6: as well, I don't want to ruin it for you.

983
00:50:56,960 --> 00:50:58,919
Speaker 6: But some are in Ohio. There's a trunk. I'm doing

984
00:50:58,960 --> 00:51:02,080
Speaker 6: a lot of things with the trunk. It's a whole thing.

985
00:51:03,320 --> 00:51:06,960
Speaker 6: But then the audition scene, I actually don't know how

986
00:51:07,000 --> 00:51:11,080
Speaker 6: that's gonna go. It's improv actually every single night surprise,

987
00:51:13,160 --> 00:51:17,360
Speaker 6: So I know the very last one is set because

988
00:51:17,400 --> 00:51:20,040
Speaker 6: there's all that banter in the middle of it. But

989
00:51:20,320 --> 00:51:25,000
Speaker 6: the second one, uh, the piano player whoever's playing that night,

990
00:51:25,040 --> 00:51:26,680
Speaker 6: they actually are in control.

991
00:51:26,760 --> 00:51:28,040
Speaker 3: So I don't know what's gonna happen.

992
00:51:28,120 --> 00:51:28,520
Speaker 2: No way.

993
00:51:28,840 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's up to me to just kind of

994
00:51:31,360 --> 00:51:35,799
Speaker 6: jump head first and see. Sometimes it gets crazy, but

995
00:51:35,920 --> 00:51:37,120
Speaker 6: it's a it's really fun.

996
00:51:37,239 --> 00:51:37,960
Speaker 3: It's fun that way.

997
00:51:38,000 --> 00:51:39,800
Speaker 1: Well that's why you guys do what you do, truly,

998
00:51:39,840 --> 00:51:41,800
Speaker 1: it's amazing. All right, we have two questions. We're almost

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00:51:41,800 --> 00:51:43,560
Speaker 1: out of time, so we're gonna go through these quick.

1000
00:51:43,600 --> 00:51:46,319
Speaker 1: So we can get both in for y'all, for both

1001
00:51:46,320 --> 00:51:50,279
Speaker 1: of you. In what ways do you see yourselves in

1002
00:51:50,560 --> 00:51:52,880
Speaker 1: Jamie and Kathy and what ways do you not?

1003
00:51:56,560 --> 00:52:03,839
Speaker 4: I I relate to his ambition clearly, but I think

1004
00:52:03,880 --> 00:52:05,719
Speaker 4: that I am not like him because I have some

1005
00:52:05,800 --> 00:52:09,040
Speaker 4: guardrails that I've set for myself to protect that my

1006
00:52:09,120 --> 00:52:12,600
Speaker 4: life stay healthy and as happy as I hope it

1007
00:52:12,640 --> 00:52:14,680
Speaker 4: can be and all that.

1008
00:52:15,080 --> 00:52:17,480
Speaker 5: And I feel like I'm a lot like Kathy sometimes too.

1009
00:52:17,480 --> 00:52:19,400
Speaker 4: I think that's the great part about this show is

1010
00:52:19,440 --> 00:52:23,480
Speaker 4: that it's it's by no means gender specific. These are

1011
00:52:23,520 --> 00:52:26,680
Speaker 4: just two individuals who happen to be male and female

1012
00:52:26,800 --> 00:52:29,000
Speaker 4: going on a journey and telling a story.

1013
00:52:29,000 --> 00:52:30,480
Speaker 5: But it could easily be reversed.

1014
00:52:31,640 --> 00:52:36,240
Speaker 4: And and you know, I think that when I listen

1015
00:52:36,320 --> 00:52:38,800
Speaker 4: to some of these songs, and specifically in the earlier

1016
00:52:38,840 --> 00:52:41,600
Speaker 4: part of the show where she's she's going through the

1017
00:52:41,680 --> 00:52:43,960
Speaker 4: hurt that she's going through, we've all been through things

1018
00:52:44,040 --> 00:52:47,360
Speaker 4: like that in our life, and if you haven't, then

1019
00:52:48,800 --> 00:52:49,399
Speaker 4: good for you.

1020
00:52:49,480 --> 00:52:50,000
Speaker 5: Good for you.

1021
00:52:50,719 --> 00:52:55,640
Speaker 4: But you know that those dynamics and relationships are not

1022
00:52:55,760 --> 00:52:59,120
Speaker 4: exclusive to romantic relationships either, that there's friendships and even

1023
00:52:59,120 --> 00:53:02,799
Speaker 4: family relationships. You can see elements of you know, all

1024
00:53:02,840 --> 00:53:06,680
Speaker 4: of our sort of lives and collective lives in these characters,

1025
00:53:06,719 --> 00:53:10,359
Speaker 4: which is why I think this show has been as

1026
00:53:10,400 --> 00:53:13,960
Speaker 4: well received as it has been for so long. So

1027
00:53:14,000 --> 00:53:16,520
Speaker 4: I'm a lot like both and not like them in

1028
00:53:16,560 --> 00:53:17,400
Speaker 4: a lot of ways too.

1029
00:53:18,239 --> 00:53:20,040
Speaker 3: I think really quickly. For me, I.

1030
00:53:23,200 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 6: Didn't think I was like Kathy at all, and because

1031
00:53:25,960 --> 00:53:29,000
Speaker 6: of Whitney's vision, I now see so much of myself

1032
00:53:29,080 --> 00:53:34,320
Speaker 6: in her. Kathy and I are pretty pretty similar now.

1033
00:53:35,000 --> 00:53:35,920
Speaker 2: I love that. I love that.

1034
00:53:35,960 --> 00:53:38,080
Speaker 1: And that was from anishe thank you? And final question

1035
00:53:38,480 --> 00:53:41,920
Speaker 1: from Tara L. Besides this show, what are some of

1036
00:53:41,960 --> 00:53:44,840
Speaker 1: your favorite Broadway shows? Let's limit it to three each.

1037
00:53:47,840 --> 00:53:55,279
Speaker 6: To go first, I'll do one Aida no no, no,

1038
00:53:55,280 --> 00:53:58,719
Speaker 6: no no. I'd actually only want to be Amnarius if

1039
00:53:58,760 --> 00:53:59,319
Speaker 6: I ever did that.

1040
00:54:06,560 --> 00:54:09,080
Speaker 5: I'm gonna start with a kind of a random one.

1041
00:54:09,080 --> 00:54:12,040
Speaker 5: But I love it, Avenue Q, I just love so much.

1042
00:54:12,120 --> 00:54:15,040
Speaker 2: It's a good one, all right, One more each?

1043
00:54:20,680 --> 00:54:23,759
Speaker 6: Okay, saying we're like theater kids, but we're not, but

1044
00:54:23,880 --> 00:54:24,200
Speaker 6: we are.

1045
00:54:25,040 --> 00:54:25,560
Speaker 3: It's weird.

1046
00:54:25,800 --> 00:54:29,359
Speaker 5: I mean, I could I have seen this show.

1047
00:54:31,480 --> 00:54:35,920
Speaker 4: Eight times, probably maybe more, and it really never gets

1048
00:54:35,920 --> 00:54:40,319
Speaker 4: old to me. And I'm not the only person that

1049
00:54:40,360 --> 00:54:42,920
Speaker 4: feels this way, obviously because it's been running forever in

1050
00:54:42,960 --> 00:54:46,240
Speaker 4: the West End. Phantom of the Opera.

1051
00:54:46,360 --> 00:54:47,120
Speaker 5: I just love.

1052
00:54:48,520 --> 00:54:49,719
Speaker 2: Okay, we love that one moment.

1053
00:54:50,120 --> 00:54:51,600
Speaker 3: Oh, I do you know?

1054
00:54:53,239 --> 00:54:54,080
Speaker 2: Come on? Come on?

1055
00:54:54,160 --> 00:54:58,959
Speaker 6: Okay, okay, okay, I I oh my god. I love

1056
00:54:59,320 --> 00:55:03,960
Speaker 6: Wicked just because it, you know, changed. I think all

1057
00:55:03,960 --> 00:55:05,960
Speaker 6: of our lives and we saw growing up.

1058
00:55:06,040 --> 00:55:07,720
Speaker 2: Yeah, all right, solid choice.

1059
00:55:07,760 --> 00:55:10,239
Speaker 1: Well, I think I speak on behalf of everyone in

1060
00:55:10,280 --> 00:55:12,720
Speaker 1: this room when I say thank you, thank.

1061
00:55:12,560 --> 00:55:15,000
Speaker 2: You for your artistry, thank you for your gifts. You

1062
00:55:15,080 --> 00:55:16,719
Speaker 2: both are brilliant and we.

1063
00:55:16,680 --> 00:55:20,400
Speaker 1: Are so lucky to share in your art and truly, truly, truly,

1064
00:55:20,440 --> 00:55:20,799
Speaker 1: we look.

1065
00:55:20,719 --> 00:55:22,919
Speaker 2: Forward to everything you guys continue to do. Go see

1066
00:55:22,960 --> 00:55:26,239
Speaker 2: the show. It is great. Get your tickets and thank

1067
00:55:26,280 --> 00:55:26,680
Speaker 2: you both.

1068
00:55:26,800 --> 00:55:28,279
Speaker 3: Thank you, thanks for coming on.

1069
00:55:29,080 --> 00:55:30,440
Speaker 2: Thank you everybody, Thank you.

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Speaker 1: I've Never Said this Before is hosted by Me Tommy Dederio.

1071
00:55:37,640 --> 00:55:41,880
Speaker 1: This podcast is executive produced by Andrew Puglisi at iHeartRadio

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00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,319
Speaker 1: and by Me Tommy, with editing by Joshua Colaudney I've

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