1 00:00:00,680 --> 00:00:05,640 Speaker 1: The Around the NFL podcast is still beeping with the 2 00:00:05,760 --> 00:00:11,959 Speaker 1: move the Sticks podcast. Welcome to another edition. I could 3 00:00:12,039 --> 00:00:15,520 Speaker 1: use an editor of the Around the NFL podcast. My 4 00:00:15,640 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: name is Dan Hansis. I'm coming to you from a 5 00:00:18,079 --> 00:00:23,600 Speaker 1: virtual room filled with heroes, Mark Sessler and Greg Rosenthal. 6 00:00:23,720 --> 00:00:26,400 Speaker 1: What is up? Boys? What would you have liked to 7 00:00:26,560 --> 00:00:31,639 Speaker 1: edit from the top that top? It felt like they're 8 00:00:31,640 --> 00:00:35,400 Speaker 1: about three to four extra words there, just a little clucky, 9 00:00:35,440 --> 00:00:38,599 Speaker 1: that's all. That's fine. They're not all gonna be gems. 10 00:00:39,080 --> 00:00:42,360 Speaker 1: Just like the Sticks podcast itself, would you have liked 11 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,120 Speaker 1: U Matt Money to edit it himself? I mean he's 12 00:00:46,200 --> 00:00:48,160 Speaker 1: he's a good radio man. He says a good good 13 00:00:48,159 --> 00:00:51,239 Speaker 1: ear for a good line. Know what I do in 14 00:00:51,240 --> 00:00:53,680 Speaker 1: the whenever we have these type of situations, you know what? 15 00:00:53,840 --> 00:00:57,640 Speaker 1: You know? My move is just blame America. Well, another 16 00:00:57,760 --> 00:01:02,360 Speaker 1: another option, um is to blame Daniel Jeremiah just for 17 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,400 Speaker 1: even recently starting a podcast. I'm glad he took our advice. 18 00:01:05,560 --> 00:01:08,440 Speaker 1: I threw it out there on the Around the NFL broadcast. 19 00:01:08,440 --> 00:01:10,679 Speaker 1: That would be cool. He's had this popular Twitter account. 20 00:01:11,000 --> 00:01:13,559 Speaker 1: Everyone knows him, you know, in terms of the NFL 21 00:01:13,680 --> 00:01:16,760 Speaker 1: draft analysis, and he has started a podcast we found 22 00:01:16,760 --> 00:01:19,440 Speaker 1: out recently, and good luck to him. I think people 23 00:01:19,560 --> 00:01:21,440 Speaker 1: enjoy it. It's a good job by you. I mean 24 00:01:21,440 --> 00:01:23,560 Speaker 1: to suggest, you know, another vehicle for him to get 25 00:01:23,600 --> 00:01:26,399 Speaker 1: his voice out. I don't know why. It's last college football, 26 00:01:26,480 --> 00:01:28,959 Speaker 1: so you know, there's just it's gonna be strange times 27 00:01:29,000 --> 00:01:33,959 Speaker 1: for the draft analysts. Uh, this is the Wednesday edition. 28 00:01:34,720 --> 00:01:37,080 Speaker 1: I'll be around the NFL podcast. It's it's a fun one. 29 00:01:37,280 --> 00:01:41,880 Speaker 1: Football is getting closer, boys, it's getting closer. So today 30 00:01:41,920 --> 00:01:47,680 Speaker 1: wedn Day, day Day, and then day. Yeah, is football 31 00:01:47,760 --> 00:01:51,120 Speaker 1: three weeks from Thursday. We're as we tape, it's twenty 32 00:01:51,160 --> 00:01:56,320 Speaker 1: two days from right now. Oh my goodness. How about that? 33 00:01:56,800 --> 00:02:00,360 Speaker 1: I mean, hopefully there's football, but you know what on 34 00:02:00,520 --> 00:02:04,280 Speaker 1: that on that subject, I do not want to jinx 35 00:02:04,320 --> 00:02:06,920 Speaker 1: and I'm gonna knock on wood right here. But it 36 00:02:07,280 --> 00:02:10,720 Speaker 1: feels like, and yes, you can get on the league 37 00:02:10,760 --> 00:02:14,600 Speaker 1: for maybe being slow to action through the summer or 38 00:02:14,840 --> 00:02:18,800 Speaker 1: or perhaps that's just how was perceived on the outside. 39 00:02:18,840 --> 00:02:21,480 Speaker 1: But but things seem to be going very well right 40 00:02:21,520 --> 00:02:24,480 Speaker 1: now in terms of how these training camps are operating 41 00:02:24,520 --> 00:02:27,480 Speaker 1: once again, and we're watching Hard Knocks every Tuesday night. 42 00:02:27,760 --> 00:02:29,840 Speaker 1: You see the way the Rams and the Chargers are 43 00:02:29,840 --> 00:02:33,119 Speaker 1: going about their business and all the safety precautions. So far, 44 00:02:33,200 --> 00:02:36,239 Speaker 1: so good, So far, so good. Yeah, I think it's 45 00:02:36,240 --> 00:02:38,720 Speaker 1: like the only blip on the radar is you know, 46 00:02:38,800 --> 00:02:41,560 Speaker 1: in in Seattle where uh, you know, a low a 47 00:02:41,560 --> 00:02:44,239 Speaker 1: low tier player tries to sneak in a female dressed 48 00:02:44,280 --> 00:02:46,560 Speaker 1: in Seattle garb. That's the kind of thing that's gonna 49 00:02:46,639 --> 00:02:49,280 Speaker 1: throw teams off. I mean, outside of that, I'd have 50 00:02:49,360 --> 00:02:50,959 Speaker 1: to agree that. I don't know if I've ever been 51 00:02:50,960 --> 00:02:54,040 Speaker 1: more optimistic about the league and the season getting underway 52 00:02:54,080 --> 00:02:56,600 Speaker 1: than the last couple of days. Right, And they're just 53 00:02:56,680 --> 00:02:59,480 Speaker 1: starting to really practice and play football, which is a 54 00:02:59,480 --> 00:03:02,920 Speaker 1: pretty big step to take in terms of contact and everything. 55 00:03:02,960 --> 00:03:05,120 Speaker 1: But with the daily testing, it's like they're gonna be 56 00:03:05,200 --> 00:03:07,520 Speaker 1: daily testing. They're gonna be testing daily through the start 57 00:03:07,560 --> 00:03:10,359 Speaker 1: of the season. They're talking about maybe extending it beyond that. 58 00:03:10,440 --> 00:03:14,360 Speaker 1: And I know that's not gonna solve the virus, but 59 00:03:14,400 --> 00:03:17,400 Speaker 1: it does have to make you feel better about these guys, 60 00:03:17,480 --> 00:03:20,000 Speaker 1: you know, bumping up up against each other. It is 61 00:03:20,040 --> 00:03:24,680 Speaker 1: really good. There's less I think there's a and each 62 00:03:24,720 --> 00:03:33,320 Speaker 1: other stuff. They're bumping bumping ugly. How about like athletic combat. 63 00:03:33,360 --> 00:03:36,200 Speaker 1: There's gotta be another way to put this. I mean, 64 00:03:37,080 --> 00:03:39,560 Speaker 1: Mark will tell you as an next player. I mean this, 65 00:03:39,720 --> 00:03:42,560 Speaker 1: it's a physical sport. You know, you're you're not gonna 66 00:03:42,600 --> 00:03:45,080 Speaker 1: get in close contact with that with almost any other 67 00:03:45,160 --> 00:03:47,560 Speaker 1: humans in your life. Greg, You're right. I mean there 68 00:03:47,680 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: is a lot of bumping going on, and so I 69 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:53,560 Speaker 1: think it applies. Oh yeah, a lot of rubbing and 70 00:03:53,600 --> 00:03:59,600 Speaker 1: bumping and hugging. All right, today's show, it's gonna be fun. Yes, 71 00:03:59,640 --> 00:04:02,440 Speaker 1: we're three weeks away, just about from the first kickoff 72 00:04:02,480 --> 00:04:04,520 Speaker 1: of the season, so we're going to continue to kind 73 00:04:04,520 --> 00:04:08,600 Speaker 1: of spin around the league and find our league, excuse me, 74 00:04:08,680 --> 00:04:13,200 Speaker 1: and find some storylines out there that are percolating just 75 00:04:13,360 --> 00:04:19,480 Speaker 1: beneath the surface. Yes, it's that time again. People training camp, 76 00:04:20,920 --> 00:04:29,760 Speaker 1: which I hope everybody did their homework. I got a lot, 77 00:04:29,960 --> 00:04:34,120 Speaker 1: I mean with less kind of like on site reporting. 78 00:04:34,240 --> 00:04:39,760 Speaker 1: It's just almost a breeding ground for whisper. You know, 79 00:04:39,800 --> 00:04:41,800 Speaker 1: it's just like an or whispers. You can't you can't 80 00:04:41,800 --> 00:04:44,039 Speaker 1: speak out loud anymore. They got all these media rules 81 00:04:44,040 --> 00:04:46,360 Speaker 1: about what you can and can't report, so it's got 82 00:04:46,360 --> 00:04:48,400 Speaker 1: to come out in a whisper. You'd have to be 83 00:04:48,680 --> 00:04:52,039 Speaker 1: six ft under the last couple of days, not to um, 84 00:04:52,120 --> 00:04:53,560 Speaker 1: you know, be on the receiving end of some of 85 00:04:53,600 --> 00:04:57,200 Speaker 1: these whispers, because it's the season to me, starts when 86 00:04:57,200 --> 00:04:59,480 Speaker 1: the news move so quickly that if you leave your 87 00:04:59,480 --> 00:05:01,960 Speaker 1: computer like an hour, you come back to like four 88 00:05:02,040 --> 00:05:04,920 Speaker 1: hundred and six. Um some of them very snarky rohdo 89 00:05:04,960 --> 00:05:07,160 Speaker 1: world updates. And that's what that's been the last couple 90 00:05:07,160 --> 00:05:09,159 Speaker 1: of days. And that's when I know that, um, you know, 91 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:13,120 Speaker 1: social life, family life is veering towards a hard stop 92 00:05:13,200 --> 00:05:17,160 Speaker 1: for the next half a year or so. Yeah, that's 93 00:05:17,200 --> 00:05:20,400 Speaker 1: about right. So we'll spin around the league and get 94 00:05:20,400 --> 00:05:23,080 Speaker 1: you caught up to date on what the Beat reporters 95 00:05:23,120 --> 00:05:26,120 Speaker 1: and so on are talking about. But before that, let 96 00:05:26,200 --> 00:05:29,880 Speaker 1: us do some news the other thing. I uh, you know, 97 00:05:29,920 --> 00:05:32,400 Speaker 1: you get a chance to reflect on it. Uh. I 98 00:05:32,440 --> 00:05:34,880 Speaker 1: apologize for my four judgment taking my shirt off on 99 00:05:34,920 --> 00:05:44,680 Speaker 1: hard knocks, all right, I mean it's all there. The 100 00:05:44,680 --> 00:05:49,280 Speaker 1: theory that I posited last week totally checks out. McVeigh 101 00:05:49,600 --> 00:05:53,120 Speaker 1: makes up this idea that the dog that he had 102 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: can do a trick with a football near basketball who 103 00:05:56,440 --> 00:05:59,040 Speaker 1: clearly he's just pegging the dog in the snout repeatedly, 104 00:05:59,480 --> 00:06:02,880 Speaker 1: dog does a know any tricks, you know, but it 105 00:06:02,920 --> 00:06:05,440 Speaker 1: gave McVeigh a chance to take a shirt off, and 106 00:06:05,480 --> 00:06:08,200 Speaker 1: then he takes them ribbing, both internally and probably on 107 00:06:08,240 --> 00:06:11,240 Speaker 1: social media, and now he really He circles back an 108 00:06:11,240 --> 00:06:13,920 Speaker 1: episode two of Hard Knocks, the recap of which you 109 00:06:13,960 --> 00:06:16,279 Speaker 1: can find an NFL dot com by the way, written 110 00:06:16,279 --> 00:06:19,240 Speaker 1: by yours truly, and mentions again that he had his 111 00:06:19,240 --> 00:06:21,400 Speaker 1: shirt off just in case some ladies may be watching 112 00:06:21,720 --> 00:06:24,880 Speaker 1: missed the premier, they could cycle back and see Sean 113 00:06:24,960 --> 00:06:27,400 Speaker 1: McVeigh and his glory. He he is a very well 114 00:06:27,480 --> 00:06:31,200 Speaker 1: prepared coach, and you can tell his comedy as well 115 00:06:31,240 --> 00:06:34,599 Speaker 1: prepared to I mean, he he has like he has 116 00:06:34,640 --> 00:06:37,320 Speaker 1: his rundown of what he's going to accomplish at the meeting, 117 00:06:37,400 --> 00:06:40,000 Speaker 1: and he knows he's gonna end that coaches meeting with 118 00:06:40,080 --> 00:06:43,200 Speaker 1: that joke. He knows he's gonna make the Andrew Whitworth 119 00:06:43,240 --> 00:06:46,560 Speaker 1: has been playing for forty years joke while addressing the team. 120 00:06:46,760 --> 00:06:48,359 Speaker 1: It's all very planned out. I don't know if that 121 00:06:48,360 --> 00:06:50,480 Speaker 1: always leads to the best comedy or not, but at 122 00:06:50,520 --> 00:06:54,200 Speaker 1: least he's given it a shot. When I think about 123 00:06:54,760 --> 00:07:01,599 Speaker 1: what's what is the secret sauce to comedy preparation. Well, 124 00:07:01,600 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: that's probably as good as it gets an NFL comedy. 125 00:07:07,240 --> 00:07:09,520 Speaker 1: And I'm to again Colleen, I'm gonna give her all 126 00:07:09,560 --> 00:07:11,440 Speaker 1: the credit because she's the one to mention on text 127 00:07:12,200 --> 00:07:16,840 Speaker 1: that guy is turning into Jon Gruden. He sounds like 128 00:07:16,920 --> 00:07:19,400 Speaker 1: Jon Gruden. He started to look like Jon Gruden. I mean, 129 00:07:19,400 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: that was his mentor. So it's not like it comes 130 00:07:21,400 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 1: from you know, nowhere. It was the guy that he 131 00:07:23,760 --> 00:07:25,720 Speaker 1: was trying to be like when he was a young coach. 132 00:07:25,720 --> 00:07:29,600 Speaker 1: They love showing those clips, uh NFL Films does. And yeah, 133 00:07:29,640 --> 00:07:32,840 Speaker 1: there's definitely a little imitation as the sincerest form of 134 00:07:32,840 --> 00:07:35,320 Speaker 1: flattery there. I mean, but not every ment not every 135 00:07:35,360 --> 00:07:40,960 Speaker 1: mentee winds up looking uh like mannerisms like speech like 136 00:07:41,280 --> 00:07:43,960 Speaker 1: the mentor. In this case, that's you know, he's going 137 00:07:44,000 --> 00:07:48,440 Speaker 1: all out singing the Monday Night Football song, please, I know, 138 00:07:49,240 --> 00:07:53,400 Speaker 1: I mean I didn't even piece that together. Are the 139 00:07:53,400 --> 00:07:56,920 Speaker 1: great Andrew Marshand who dropped that nug that ESPN and 140 00:07:57,000 --> 00:08:00,080 Speaker 1: McVeigh had a conversation and now he's singing this on 141 00:08:00,240 --> 00:08:02,200 Speaker 1: when you know, I thought that was like it's in 142 00:08:02,280 --> 00:08:05,320 Speaker 1: terms of preparation, that to me seemed like he was 143 00:08:05,400 --> 00:08:07,720 Speaker 1: serving that up so that we would sit here and 144 00:08:07,720 --> 00:08:10,360 Speaker 1: others would sit here talking about it for the following day. 145 00:08:10,440 --> 00:08:15,120 Speaker 1: Or to speaking of Sean McVeigh and Hard Knocks, Peter Schreger, 146 00:08:15,160 --> 00:08:18,400 Speaker 1: a buddy has the Hard Knocks podcast and McVeigh is 147 00:08:18,440 --> 00:08:20,680 Speaker 1: on the show this week, so make sure you check 148 00:08:20,760 --> 00:08:22,800 Speaker 1: that out wherever you get your podcasts. All right, let's 149 00:08:22,800 --> 00:08:26,800 Speaker 1: get into the news. The charges are also subject a 150 00:08:26,880 --> 00:08:30,440 Speaker 1: subject on Hard Knocks Los Angeles this season, and one 151 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:34,000 Speaker 1: figure who has not been on the field for the Chargers, 152 00:08:34,360 --> 00:08:38,480 Speaker 1: Melvin Ingram, the great uh defensive end the book end 153 00:08:38,760 --> 00:08:42,560 Speaker 1: with Joey Bosa that makes things go on that Chargers defense. 154 00:08:42,760 --> 00:08:46,000 Speaker 1: The athletics Daniel Popper reports that Ingram is holding out 155 00:08:46,040 --> 00:08:51,880 Speaker 1: from practice because he's dissatisfied with his contract situation and 156 00:08:52,160 --> 00:08:55,920 Speaker 1: Greg this is an interesting situation here because in the 157 00:08:55,960 --> 00:09:00,720 Speaker 1: old days holdouts were commonplace. Today, with how heavy the 158 00:09:00,760 --> 00:09:02,920 Speaker 1: fines are with the new cb A, you never see 159 00:09:02,920 --> 00:09:06,760 Speaker 1: it anymore. Is Ingram a trailblazer? Has he found a 160 00:09:06,800 --> 00:09:10,760 Speaker 1: way to hold out while also being in the holden? 161 00:09:10,880 --> 00:09:14,439 Speaker 1: It's either the holding or the in house hold out. UM. 162 00:09:14,679 --> 00:09:18,240 Speaker 1: I think he is a sign of things to come 163 00:09:18,400 --> 00:09:20,640 Speaker 1: because this is the first training camp since the c 164 00:09:20,800 --> 00:09:23,960 Speaker 1: BA has been been signed, and they now it now 165 00:09:24,120 --> 00:09:27,080 Speaker 1: No doesn't give it, No longer gives any wiggle room 166 00:09:27,120 --> 00:09:30,640 Speaker 1: to teams finding players who skip camp. They have to there. 167 00:09:30,640 --> 00:09:33,440 Speaker 1: It's a mandatory fine, and I think this is a 168 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:35,160 Speaker 1: way to do it. You're gonna have to have some 169 00:09:35,200 --> 00:09:37,960 Speaker 1: sort of mutual respect between the two sides, which these 170 00:09:38,000 --> 00:09:42,080 Speaker 1: two should after nine seasons together, and he's coming up 171 00:09:42,120 --> 00:09:44,640 Speaker 1: at the end of what was a massive contract extension 172 00:09:44,679 --> 00:09:50,480 Speaker 1: back in I believe, and I think he's probably confident 173 00:09:50,520 --> 00:09:52,240 Speaker 1: they can work something out. I did see a report 174 00:09:52,240 --> 00:09:54,440 Speaker 1: though he wasn't at practice today. He's at least been 175 00:09:54,480 --> 00:09:57,640 Speaker 1: outside watching practice, but now he hasn't even now he's 176 00:09:57,679 --> 00:10:01,040 Speaker 1: not even at practice anymore. And it's tricky because he's 177 00:10:01,080 --> 00:10:03,480 Speaker 1: a leader, and yet I don't know if they would 178 00:10:03,480 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: want to give him a big time extension. He's thirty 179 00:10:05,640 --> 00:10:09,040 Speaker 1: one years old. He's coming off um his worst season 180 00:10:09,040 --> 00:10:11,360 Speaker 1: in the last you know, probably four or five seasons. 181 00:10:11,400 --> 00:10:13,160 Speaker 1: He had a couple of injuries. Still played well, but 182 00:10:13,200 --> 00:10:16,080 Speaker 1: not at his previous level. So it's a thorny situation. 183 00:10:16,120 --> 00:10:17,720 Speaker 1: A lot of times when there's a player like this, 184 00:10:17,960 --> 00:10:20,560 Speaker 1: They'll find some way to make them happy. Maybe give 185 00:10:20,640 --> 00:10:24,400 Speaker 1: him some incentives, guarantee some of this money. If coronavirus 186 00:10:24,520 --> 00:10:26,360 Speaker 1: ends up wiping out some of the some sort of 187 00:10:26,640 --> 00:10:29,640 Speaker 1: small compromise without giving him a big contract, maybe gets 188 00:10:29,679 --> 00:10:31,520 Speaker 1: it done. Like the agents shot that down. But that 189 00:10:31,600 --> 00:10:35,000 Speaker 1: seems like a logical Uh. Perhaps the thing that he's 190 00:10:35,000 --> 00:10:37,600 Speaker 1: pursuing is in a season that right now it looks good, 191 00:10:37,640 --> 00:10:39,880 Speaker 1: but if things got weird, he's in the final year 192 00:10:39,920 --> 00:10:42,520 Speaker 1: of his deal making sixteen million, none of it guaranteed. 193 00:10:42,800 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: Maybe angling for some guarantees at least for now, but 194 00:10:45,840 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: trying to do it in a friendly way where then 195 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,280 Speaker 1: the contract comes after. But I kind of like the 196 00:10:50,320 --> 00:10:53,440 Speaker 1: approach of um, you know, the being at work, sort 197 00:10:53,480 --> 00:10:55,880 Speaker 1: of like I could imagine going to the newsman say 198 00:10:55,920 --> 00:10:59,720 Speaker 1: I'm here, but I will not be producing anything. That 199 00:10:59,840 --> 00:11:02,720 Speaker 1: was the entire run at Walgreen's, the drug store Pro River, 200 00:11:02,760 --> 00:11:05,040 Speaker 1: New York. I mean, I think we've all had jobs 201 00:11:05,040 --> 00:11:08,680 Speaker 1: where we're literally punching the clock and then just counting 202 00:11:08,679 --> 00:11:12,520 Speaker 1: down the hours. Your strawberry truck. You you almost took 203 00:11:12,520 --> 00:11:15,440 Speaker 1: down the whole fruit industry, uh in New England. I mean, look, 204 00:11:15,440 --> 00:11:19,280 Speaker 1: I my effort was strong with the tic strawberry truck 205 00:11:19,600 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: going up and down the East coast. Now did I 206 00:11:21,320 --> 00:11:24,920 Speaker 1: get lost many times in a pre GPS era, to 207 00:11:25,000 --> 00:11:27,120 Speaker 1: the point where I was almost in tears, you know, 208 00:11:27,160 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: like six hours from home at eight p m. And night. Yeah, 209 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:32,760 Speaker 1: that happened. But I was trying. I was putting in 210 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:35,160 Speaker 1: a good effort. I just don't have a great sense 211 00:11:35,160 --> 00:11:37,680 Speaker 1: of direction. We've seen that sense of direction, and it's 212 00:11:38,000 --> 00:11:39,840 Speaker 1: it's all four of us are tagged with the lack 213 00:11:39,880 --> 00:11:42,000 Speaker 1: of it. When you know, let's leave our hotel and 214 00:11:42,000 --> 00:11:44,880 Speaker 1: go walk to uh the convention center on Super Bowl 215 00:11:44,880 --> 00:11:46,240 Speaker 1: week and no one can find it and we we 216 00:11:46,360 --> 00:11:48,680 Speaker 1: end up in a rough corner of town and need 217 00:11:48,720 --> 00:11:51,400 Speaker 1: West to get us out of it. You young uns, 218 00:11:51,400 --> 00:11:54,800 Speaker 1: No really, patra Patrick is the only guy that no better. 219 00:11:55,720 --> 00:12:00,400 Speaker 1: You young uns don't understand. Before GPS, before ways, before 220 00:12:00,440 --> 00:12:03,400 Speaker 1: Google Maps, all you had was this thing called map Quest, 221 00:12:03,600 --> 00:12:05,920 Speaker 1: and it would be something and you log onto your 222 00:12:05,920 --> 00:12:09,480 Speaker 1: computer and you put in the entry point in the 223 00:12:09,520 --> 00:12:13,360 Speaker 1: destination and it's spit out directions and that those worked 224 00:12:13,400 --> 00:12:16,760 Speaker 1: okay until you made one wrong turn and then they 225 00:12:16,800 --> 00:12:19,120 Speaker 1: were useless to you. And I remember to your point, 226 00:12:19,120 --> 00:12:22,040 Speaker 1: Greg of you on being on the verge of teers 227 00:12:22,440 --> 00:12:26,000 Speaker 1: when I was nineteen, uh, and I was not somebody 228 00:12:26,040 --> 00:12:29,840 Speaker 1: that ever really left my hometown. Really at that point, 229 00:12:29,920 --> 00:12:32,760 Speaker 1: I was still just a kid, and I was driving 230 00:12:32,800 --> 00:12:38,240 Speaker 1: to Villanova to visit my friend Sarah, and I got there. 231 00:12:41,880 --> 00:12:44,200 Speaker 1: I got there with no problems, and I was really 232 00:12:44,200 --> 00:12:46,800 Speaker 1: proud of myself. It was a little like victory in 233 00:12:46,880 --> 00:12:50,120 Speaker 1: my Ford escort. But then going back, I made the 234 00:12:50,160 --> 00:12:52,760 Speaker 1: wrong turn and another wrong turn, and then all of 235 00:12:52,800 --> 00:12:54,439 Speaker 1: a sudden, I had no idea where I was. I 236 00:12:54,480 --> 00:12:57,480 Speaker 1: had no cell phone, and I remember, I still remember 237 00:12:57,600 --> 00:12:59,960 Speaker 1: this day, gripping the top of my steering wheel. It's 238 00:13:00,080 --> 00:13:04,520 Speaker 1: hard as possible, racing seventy miles down for hour down 239 00:13:04,600 --> 00:13:08,439 Speaker 1: some turnpike and being like, what am I gonna do? Um, yeah, 240 00:13:08,559 --> 00:13:10,960 Speaker 1: you kids don't understand now that we'll all have this time. 241 00:13:11,040 --> 00:13:12,840 Speaker 1: But my dad once tested me, and I was not 242 00:13:13,080 --> 00:13:15,240 Speaker 1: that young. I was probably like eighteen or nineteen, and 243 00:13:15,520 --> 00:13:18,240 Speaker 1: also had essentially never left my town and he was like, 244 00:13:18,320 --> 00:13:21,719 Speaker 1: come pick me up at work in Westchester, and I, 245 00:13:21,920 --> 00:13:24,679 Speaker 1: I mean, I had never really been dried. I've never 246 00:13:24,760 --> 00:13:28,160 Speaker 1: driven into metropolitan surrounding before, and I'm like lost on 247 00:13:28,200 --> 00:13:31,520 Speaker 1: the tappan Zee Bridge or somewhere like that, and you know, 248 00:13:31,640 --> 00:13:34,320 Speaker 1: weird like to you to your point, and I thought 249 00:13:34,320 --> 00:13:36,760 Speaker 1: my life is over. I've failed my father. Um. The 250 00:13:36,840 --> 00:13:38,960 Speaker 1: quickest thing to do would be to park this car 251 00:13:39,000 --> 00:13:41,800 Speaker 1: along the tappan Zee and just hoist myself into what 252 00:13:41,920 --> 00:13:44,800 Speaker 1: other ever body of water is below. What can I 253 00:13:44,800 --> 00:13:46,959 Speaker 1: have from this point? You know what I had though 254 00:13:47,000 --> 00:13:49,320 Speaker 1: in the in the Strawberry track, No, lie was a 255 00:13:49,360 --> 00:13:53,959 Speaker 1: car phone like you know plugged in the one is 256 00:13:54,000 --> 00:13:56,200 Speaker 1: a car phone? Now did I get lost sometime because 257 00:13:56,240 --> 00:13:58,640 Speaker 1: I would just call up my girlfriend at the time 258 00:13:58,679 --> 00:14:01,440 Speaker 1: on the car phone while all driving around and racking 259 00:14:01,520 --> 00:14:05,200 Speaker 1: up phone bills in in uh in retaliation for the 260 00:14:05,240 --> 00:14:07,720 Speaker 1: eight dollars an hour they were paying me for Like 261 00:14:07,920 --> 00:14:10,840 Speaker 1: long loaded, give me a break, Greg, that was that 262 00:14:10,920 --> 00:14:13,760 Speaker 1: was sneaky loaded with humble braggs. You had a car 263 00:14:13,800 --> 00:14:18,720 Speaker 1: cell phone and I had an extended astro van owned 264 00:14:18,720 --> 00:14:20,720 Speaker 1: by this farm. It's not like it's sounds like the 265 00:14:20,760 --> 00:14:24,040 Speaker 1: worst employee ever for that industry, But I didn't last 266 00:14:24,040 --> 00:14:28,000 Speaker 1: long anyway. Good luck to you, Velvin Ingram. I think 267 00:14:28,000 --> 00:14:31,600 Speaker 1: he's probably um part of the reason this might be 268 00:14:31,680 --> 00:14:33,320 Speaker 1: the end of the road beyond the fact that he's 269 00:14:33,360 --> 00:14:36,320 Speaker 1: thirty one, is that Joey Bosa just signed a five year, 270 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,520 Speaker 1: one and thirty five million dollar contract. Maybe not fiscally 271 00:14:39,560 --> 00:14:42,920 Speaker 1: responsible to do multiple massive deals on one line, but 272 00:14:43,000 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: you never know. These teams find a way with the 273 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:48,480 Speaker 1: salary cap. But we'll see how it plays out. In 274 00:14:48,640 --> 00:14:53,040 Speaker 1: other news, speaking of money news, NFL networks, Tom Pellisero 275 00:14:53,640 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: having a big summer, right, Pellisero is having a nice summer. 276 00:14:58,920 --> 00:15:01,080 Speaker 1: I haven't really spoken to Al Sarah much. He's kind 277 00:15:01,080 --> 00:15:03,840 Speaker 1: of not a guy that I know too well. But 278 00:15:04,440 --> 00:15:08,480 Speaker 1: I'm gonna give him credit where credits do he reports? 279 00:15:08,520 --> 00:15:10,560 Speaker 1: The vikings gonna be in a long time. You know, 280 00:15:11,240 --> 00:15:14,400 Speaker 1: he's putting in the work, you know. And when we ever, 281 00:15:14,480 --> 00:15:17,120 Speaker 1: when these league events ever, you know, come back together, 282 00:15:17,200 --> 00:15:19,520 Speaker 1: the show is gonna be six hours long. Um. I 283 00:15:19,560 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: am going to make a point of it too. Have 284 00:15:22,440 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: a friendly conversation with Tom Pellisero. I mean, and he 285 00:15:25,280 --> 00:15:27,840 Speaker 1: should know, or he should understand through back channels that 286 00:15:27,880 --> 00:15:29,920 Speaker 1: if after many league events that you and he have 287 00:15:30,040 --> 00:15:33,440 Speaker 1: not had that conversation, that he might be on your radar. 288 00:15:33,480 --> 00:15:35,400 Speaker 1: I'm just saying it's possible. I don't no one knows 289 00:15:35,480 --> 00:15:38,040 Speaker 1: that but he would be but who it would behoove 290 00:15:38,120 --> 00:15:39,640 Speaker 1: him to get off your radar on that on that 291 00:15:39,720 --> 00:15:41,760 Speaker 1: front if we ever go to a league event ever again. 292 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,320 Speaker 1: Right anyway, Tom reports that Dalvin Cook, the great Vikings 293 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:49,240 Speaker 1: running back, broke off contract talks with the team and 294 00:15:49,280 --> 00:15:53,160 Speaker 1: we'll focus on preparing for Week one. Uh. He has 295 00:15:53,200 --> 00:15:56,040 Speaker 1: one year remaining on his rookie deal. He wanted to 296 00:15:56,040 --> 00:15:58,400 Speaker 1: get paid going into this year after his big breakout 297 00:15:58,440 --> 00:16:01,360 Speaker 1: season in twenty nine. Team there was talk that he 298 00:16:01,440 --> 00:16:05,040 Speaker 1: might hold out. That didn't happen. This feels like kind 299 00:16:05,040 --> 00:16:07,920 Speaker 1: of a best case scenario for the Vikings where he 300 00:16:08,080 --> 00:16:11,120 Speaker 1: appears to be ready to drop his grievance and just 301 00:16:11,240 --> 00:16:14,320 Speaker 1: focus on ball. But we'll see how it plays out. 302 00:16:16,440 --> 00:16:20,440 Speaker 1: He's one of many really good running backs that are 303 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:26,200 Speaker 1: slated for free agency. Alvin Kamara, um Joe Mixon is 304 00:16:26,280 --> 00:16:28,160 Speaker 1: one of the players out there. And then like kind 305 00:16:28,160 --> 00:16:30,480 Speaker 1: of a long list of guys who are like a 306 00:16:30,480 --> 00:16:33,800 Speaker 1: solid second tier and uh, I don't know, I sound 307 00:16:33,880 --> 00:16:35,880 Speaker 1: like Dalvin Cook pop up in the top twenty five 308 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:39,280 Speaker 1: players on the top hundred list and I was like, 309 00:16:39,520 --> 00:16:42,240 Speaker 1: I love Dalvin Cook, but um, I don't blame the 310 00:16:42,360 --> 00:16:46,320 Speaker 1: Vikings for being hesitant considering his injury history and that 311 00:16:46,400 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: it really was one amazing thing. He always looks great 312 00:16:48,960 --> 00:16:51,040 Speaker 1: when he's out there, but it I would not want 313 00:16:51,040 --> 00:16:53,040 Speaker 1: to be giving him a Todd Gurley contract right now. 314 00:16:53,120 --> 00:16:56,120 Speaker 1: I think they also love Alexander Madison, not in replace 315 00:16:56,160 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: with Dalvin Cook in anyway. But these running back contracts 316 00:16:59,760 --> 00:17:02,320 Speaker 1: make gms look like fools in some cases, so the 317 00:17:02,360 --> 00:17:04,760 Speaker 1: hesitation makes some sense. If you're a GM, you kind 318 00:17:04,760 --> 00:17:07,080 Speaker 1: of love the franchise tag when it comes to running backs. Yeah, 319 00:17:07,080 --> 00:17:09,040 Speaker 1: I'll give you ten million dollars for one year. I 320 00:17:09,119 --> 00:17:11,160 Speaker 1: just don't want to like give you, you know, four 321 00:17:11,240 --> 00:17:16,640 Speaker 1: year contract. And other news, the Kansas City Chiefs will 322 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:19,480 Speaker 1: not be one of the NFL teams playing in front 323 00:17:19,520 --> 00:17:23,560 Speaker 1: of an empty stadium. The team finalized plans to host 324 00:17:23,600 --> 00:17:30,080 Speaker 1: games at Arrowheads Stadium with approximately two percent capacity. I 325 00:17:30,119 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: don't know how much it holds, so you don't get 326 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:33,480 Speaker 1: a chance to see me figure out the math on 327 00:17:33,520 --> 00:17:36,159 Speaker 1: this one, but let's let's guess it's around fifteen to 328 00:17:36,200 --> 00:17:39,960 Speaker 1: twenty people. I don't know. Uh, So we'll see how 329 00:17:40,000 --> 00:17:44,680 Speaker 1: this goes. This comes um after the Chiefs rolled out 330 00:17:44,840 --> 00:17:49,000 Speaker 1: enhanced cleaning and sanitation measures and they will subject all 331 00:17:49,040 --> 00:17:52,840 Speaker 1: staff members to health screenings upon arrival, and will direct 332 00:17:52,840 --> 00:18:00,520 Speaker 1: all staffers to where personal protective equipment and exercise proper hygiene. Greg, 333 00:18:01,240 --> 00:18:03,320 Speaker 1: what do you think you nailed it? By the way, 334 00:18:03,720 --> 00:18:09,200 Speaker 1: sixteen point eight would be their capacity right now, I'm 335 00:18:13,160 --> 00:18:15,560 Speaker 1: I'm getting worse and almost every other way as a man. 336 00:18:15,720 --> 00:18:19,080 Speaker 1: But man, I'm just going through the roof lately. I'm 337 00:18:19,119 --> 00:18:20,960 Speaker 1: not sure I do the trade off there. I mean 338 00:18:21,560 --> 00:18:25,280 Speaker 1: every other way. I mean, what's what's the up notot idea? 339 00:18:25,680 --> 00:18:28,600 Speaker 1: What are what? I don't know all these colleges, for instance, 340 00:18:28,600 --> 00:18:31,320 Speaker 1: that you know, brought their kids on campus for a 341 00:18:31,359 --> 00:18:33,040 Speaker 1: week or two and then realize, oh, that was a 342 00:18:33,119 --> 00:18:36,280 Speaker 1: terrible idea. Let's quit that, Like is this actually gonna happen? 343 00:18:36,320 --> 00:18:38,280 Speaker 1: And what are what are they really getting out of it? 344 00:18:38,320 --> 00:18:41,280 Speaker 1: I guess the fans are getting the experience of going, 345 00:18:41,440 --> 00:18:44,080 Speaker 1: and they do want to go, and and and it's 346 00:18:44,119 --> 00:18:46,879 Speaker 1: outside and and hopefully there's a way they can do 347 00:18:46,920 --> 00:18:50,399 Speaker 1: it safely and everyone separate. But it's like when you 348 00:18:50,400 --> 00:18:53,280 Speaker 1: talk about like the sanitation and all, it's like that 349 00:18:53,280 --> 00:18:59,080 Speaker 1: that feels like pr It's like it's like the research 350 00:18:59,119 --> 00:19:02,920 Speaker 1: shows that the virus is not being transmitted too often. Um, 351 00:19:02,960 --> 00:19:05,800 Speaker 1: you know through touch on on surfaces anyway. Yeah, it's great, 352 00:19:05,800 --> 00:19:08,280 Speaker 1: it's great you're doing that, but it just doesn't feel 353 00:19:08,320 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: like the reward here is worth the risk. And I 354 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,280 Speaker 1: think you look at the rest of the world, which 355 00:19:14,359 --> 00:19:19,240 Speaker 1: is in seven better shape whatever, like a million percent 356 00:19:19,280 --> 00:19:21,040 Speaker 1: better shape, and they don't have fans in the crowd. 357 00:19:21,240 --> 00:19:25,040 Speaker 1: So I don't know that is that now that didn't 358 00:19:25,080 --> 00:19:28,639 Speaker 1: really make sense. They're they're in much better shape than us, 359 00:19:28,760 --> 00:19:31,240 Speaker 1: and they don't have fans in the crowd despite being 360 00:19:31,280 --> 00:19:33,160 Speaker 1: in better shape. So it's like, maybe we should start 361 00:19:33,160 --> 00:19:35,720 Speaker 1: taking a queue from some countries that are doing a 362 00:19:35,760 --> 00:19:38,040 Speaker 1: better job. That part of the cynical part of me 363 00:19:38,119 --> 00:19:42,240 Speaker 1: initially don't do this part of me is the NFL 364 00:19:42,560 --> 00:19:45,919 Speaker 1: attempting to Um, they always want to be the center 365 00:19:45,920 --> 00:19:48,960 Speaker 1: of attention and the spectacle of spectacles that that opening night. 366 00:19:49,000 --> 00:19:53,919 Speaker 1: They want Americans in the stands cheering and the slick 367 00:19:53,920 --> 00:19:57,400 Speaker 1: cutaways to that, I mean more reasonably, like the league said, 368 00:19:57,480 --> 00:20:00,199 Speaker 1: some cities can handle it this way, others that it 369 00:20:00,240 --> 00:20:03,440 Speaker 1: feels a little bit in the zone of competitive disadvantage. 370 00:20:03,480 --> 00:20:06,320 Speaker 1: If I mean, sixteen thousand fans, aren't it so weird. 371 00:20:06,359 --> 00:20:09,560 Speaker 1: It's going to be mostly empty, like a right, it's 372 00:20:09,680 --> 00:20:11,919 Speaker 1: gonna be Is that really gonna make you feel good? That? 373 00:20:12,280 --> 00:20:13,959 Speaker 1: Is it going to be depressing? I don't know. Well, 374 00:20:14,000 --> 00:20:16,240 Speaker 1: And they're talking about you know, they're looking into piping 375 00:20:16,240 --> 00:20:18,199 Speaker 1: and noise like which we're seeing in other sports, and 376 00:20:18,200 --> 00:20:20,440 Speaker 1: I think that that's fine. I don't have a problem 377 00:20:20,480 --> 00:20:21,760 Speaker 1: with that. I would love that job. I think you 378 00:20:21,760 --> 00:20:24,600 Speaker 1: could do really weird things and freak some people out 379 00:20:24,600 --> 00:20:26,320 Speaker 1: if you were able to control the crowd noise through 380 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:28,320 Speaker 1: a whole NFL game, if you're like an editor of that. 381 00:20:28,520 --> 00:20:30,840 Speaker 1: But at the same time, I mean if if you 382 00:20:30,920 --> 00:20:34,320 Speaker 1: replaced that with fifteen thousand fans and at any given moment, 383 00:20:34,560 --> 00:20:36,800 Speaker 1: you know, three thousand or getting beers are going to 384 00:20:36,880 --> 00:20:39,639 Speaker 1: the bathroom, that feels like a kind of lame crowd 385 00:20:39,680 --> 00:20:42,119 Speaker 1: to me. So I'm sure they want to do it 386 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,560 Speaker 1: for the For the to push the just raises a 387 00:20:44,680 --> 00:20:47,639 Speaker 1: question about responsibility to the community you're in, which is 388 00:20:47,760 --> 00:20:49,879 Speaker 1: where I think the university should take a lot of 389 00:20:50,119 --> 00:20:53,360 Speaker 1: a lot of heat for what's gone on already across 390 00:20:53,400 --> 00:20:59,320 Speaker 1: the country. You're contributing to your community, um having more coronavirus. 391 00:20:59,400 --> 00:21:01,520 Speaker 1: You made it the decision out of you know, in 392 00:21:01,560 --> 00:21:06,160 Speaker 1: those colleges, UH for more money, and the decision ended 393 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 1: up being you are making it less safe for the 394 00:21:08,760 --> 00:21:11,680 Speaker 1: people in your community. So that would be the concern. 395 00:21:11,800 --> 00:21:13,399 Speaker 1: We don't want to go to the team to team 396 00:21:13,800 --> 00:21:15,960 Speaker 1: Why would one do you? Does anyone else think to 397 00:21:16,000 --> 00:21:20,200 Speaker 1: have like four teams that can have fans going crazy 398 00:21:20,320 --> 00:21:22,359 Speaker 1: and then the next week that same team goes and 399 00:21:22,480 --> 00:21:26,280 Speaker 1: visits the stadium where it's you know, completely silent. I 400 00:21:26,320 --> 00:21:28,200 Speaker 1: feel like it's a failure in the realm of common 401 00:21:28,240 --> 00:21:32,320 Speaker 1: sense by the NFL, both because of the safety obviously 402 00:21:32,359 --> 00:21:34,320 Speaker 1: that Greg is hitting on, and also what you hit 403 00:21:34,400 --> 00:21:39,879 Speaker 1: on that anything that gives a competitive advantage to however 404 00:21:39,920 --> 00:21:44,080 Speaker 1: many teams do. This feels like it's unfair and and 405 00:21:44,200 --> 00:21:51,960 Speaker 1: it almost encourages other teams to take risks. But heyst Cowboys, 406 00:21:52,160 --> 00:21:55,119 Speaker 1: they have fans too. They haven't really specified the details, 407 00:21:55,160 --> 00:21:58,000 Speaker 1: but but Jerry Jones has been pretty clear about that. 408 00:21:58,040 --> 00:21:59,919 Speaker 1: In Texas obviously is not, you know, one of the 409 00:22:00,000 --> 00:22:02,280 Speaker 1: places that's in better shape, whereas New York is very 410 00:22:02,320 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 1: clear there's no fans all season, and yet they're in 411 00:22:05,160 --> 00:22:07,320 Speaker 1: the best shape because they've kind of been scared straight 412 00:22:07,480 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: That's why I think it's tied to politics and who 413 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:11,960 Speaker 1: your governor is. But there are a bunch of teams 414 00:22:11,960 --> 00:22:14,239 Speaker 1: that have not made a final decision yet, so you 415 00:22:14,359 --> 00:22:16,560 Speaker 1: we could see and maybe part of it is you're 416 00:22:16,600 --> 00:22:19,080 Speaker 1: waiting to find out where we are a month from 417 00:22:19,119 --> 00:22:23,600 Speaker 1: now or you know, middle of November exactly. My point, like, 418 00:22:24,280 --> 00:22:26,480 Speaker 1: teams are gonna keep the door open, and then when 419 00:22:26,520 --> 00:22:29,240 Speaker 1: it works in Kansas City, other teams are gonna open 420 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:31,600 Speaker 1: the doors. But are they gonna have the same safety protocols? 421 00:22:31,800 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Will they be able to carry it out in the 422 00:22:33,359 --> 00:22:38,960 Speaker 1: way Kansas City hypothetically? Can? It seems unnecessary. Let's talk 423 00:22:39,040 --> 00:22:41,440 Speaker 1: some injuries. Not fun to talk injuries, but it's part 424 00:22:41,440 --> 00:22:44,399 Speaker 1: of training camp. The Dolphins place linebacker Vince Bagle and 425 00:22:44,480 --> 00:22:48,600 Speaker 1: injured reserve at the torn achilles that ends this season. Uh. 426 00:22:48,640 --> 00:22:54,040 Speaker 1: He has been in the mix for uh the Dolphins. 427 00:22:54,080 --> 00:22:59,439 Speaker 1: He had fifteen appearances last year ten starts um, but 428 00:22:59,760 --> 00:23:03,360 Speaker 1: he will not be involved this season. Yeah. The handful 429 00:23:03,400 --> 00:23:06,120 Speaker 1: of players that have been deemed out for the season 430 00:23:06,160 --> 00:23:09,960 Speaker 1: with kind of non contact injuries this week haven't been 431 00:23:10,040 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: like Series. Bagal was their best pass rusher last year 432 00:23:12,640 --> 00:23:14,919 Speaker 1: and they don't have many good players on defense, but 433 00:23:15,359 --> 00:23:17,280 Speaker 1: you know, he kind of came out of nowhere. Robert 434 00:23:17,280 --> 00:23:19,760 Speaker 1: Alfred was another guy, the cornerback for the Cardinals that 435 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,320 Speaker 1: caught my attention just because their their secondary to me 436 00:23:23,720 --> 00:23:27,919 Speaker 1: is a big problem, and Alfred was expected to start. 437 00:23:28,160 --> 00:23:30,440 Speaker 1: And Uh, I think when you look at the Cardinals 438 00:23:30,640 --> 00:23:33,240 Speaker 1: being kind of a buzzy team, they have a lot 439 00:23:33,280 --> 00:23:35,160 Speaker 1: of fun things about him, but they have some parts 440 00:23:35,160 --> 00:23:37,160 Speaker 1: of their team that look up as bad as any 441 00:23:37,160 --> 00:23:39,439 Speaker 1: team in the NFL. And I would include, you know, 442 00:23:39,600 --> 00:23:44,000 Speaker 1: their their cornerback depth and their defensive line among that. Right, 443 00:23:44,119 --> 00:23:47,200 Speaker 1: only the Lions gave up more yards through the air 444 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,840 Speaker 1: than the Cardinals last year per game. And you know Alfred, 445 00:23:50,960 --> 00:23:53,000 Speaker 1: I wonder what the future. He's a friend of the show. 446 00:23:53,040 --> 00:23:55,479 Speaker 1: You remember Dan, You and West and I interviewed him 447 00:23:55,520 --> 00:23:58,480 Speaker 1: after the Falcons knocked off the Rams, uh in the 448 00:23:58,480 --> 00:24:01,240 Speaker 1: playoffs a couple of years ago. A best friend of 449 00:24:01,240 --> 00:24:03,720 Speaker 1: the show, A best friend. I mean, there's the the 450 00:24:04,560 --> 00:24:06,320 Speaker 1: I mean, what could have been a Super Bowl hero 451 00:24:06,480 --> 00:24:09,480 Speaker 1: if the if the team had finished it off big time? 452 00:24:10,480 --> 00:24:12,760 Speaker 1: Pick six? Am I am? I crazy? In the Super Bowl? 453 00:24:12,800 --> 00:24:16,520 Speaker 1: I mean is that a bad memory? I don't to 454 00:24:16,600 --> 00:24:21,160 Speaker 1: check our research I was writing about this as well. 455 00:24:21,160 --> 00:24:24,280 Speaker 1: What you were saying. They're Greg on the power rankings, 456 00:24:24,280 --> 00:24:28,560 Speaker 1: which you might think it's improbable, but it brings the clicks. 457 00:24:28,600 --> 00:24:31,119 Speaker 1: So they asked the Zeusser to roll out a training 458 00:24:31,160 --> 00:24:34,800 Speaker 1: camp power rankings that dropped today. And I said that 459 00:24:34,880 --> 00:24:37,160 Speaker 1: very thing, Greg, that that the Cardinals, they're a buzzy 460 00:24:37,160 --> 00:24:39,440 Speaker 1: playoff pick right now. But you can't ignore the fact 461 00:24:39,880 --> 00:24:42,159 Speaker 1: that no team in the league allowed more yards on 462 00:24:42,240 --> 00:24:45,080 Speaker 1: defense last year. And Alfred, even if they were high 463 00:24:45,080 --> 00:24:47,600 Speaker 1: on him, he broke his leg last year and missed 464 00:24:47,600 --> 00:24:51,160 Speaker 1: the whole season. They were asking him, hey, now jump 465 00:24:51,200 --> 00:24:53,000 Speaker 1: back into the league and line up across with Patrick 466 00:24:53,040 --> 00:24:56,119 Speaker 1: Peterson and solidify that spot. Well, even that was seemed 467 00:24:56,119 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: to be a gamble, and now they're scrambling. Three weeks 468 00:24:59,040 --> 00:25:01,680 Speaker 1: before the season. He was the one with the pick 469 00:25:01,720 --> 00:25:04,240 Speaker 1: six in the Super Bowl, which at that very moment 470 00:25:04,520 --> 00:25:06,800 Speaker 1: was one of the lowest moments I felt in the 471 00:25:06,840 --> 00:25:09,560 Speaker 1: Brady era because it was like, Oh, this isn't gonna happen, 472 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:11,480 Speaker 1: this is never gonna happen. Ago. I love that the 473 00:25:11,480 --> 00:25:14,760 Speaker 1: lowest moment in the Brady era, last one out one 474 00:25:14,840 --> 00:25:17,480 Speaker 1: minutes and then suddenly you know the greatest moment in 475 00:25:17,520 --> 00:25:21,239 Speaker 1: the Brady era suddenly is birth from that on the 476 00:25:21,280 --> 00:25:24,920 Speaker 1: lowest Brady moment happened in the Super Bowl. Think about it, 477 00:25:25,359 --> 00:25:28,720 Speaker 1: probably when he blew out his knee in week one, 478 00:25:29,200 --> 00:25:32,480 Speaker 1: coming off eighteen and one and having revenge on the 479 00:25:32,520 --> 00:25:35,720 Speaker 1: mind and then it all going away. But maybe it 480 00:25:35,760 --> 00:25:39,320 Speaker 1: was speaking of whispers, there are whispers that maybe rookie 481 00:25:39,320 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: Isaiah Simmons could see a little time at slot corner, 482 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:44,879 Speaker 1: could see you know, they want to they want to 483 00:25:44,880 --> 00:25:46,800 Speaker 1: move him all over the place, and so maybe with 484 00:25:46,880 --> 00:25:49,520 Speaker 1: Alfred out of the mix, that could be uh an 485 00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:52,760 Speaker 1: answer there. You know, Mark, don't think we didn't notice. 486 00:25:53,520 --> 00:25:57,680 Speaker 1: You missed Monday show for moving and internet purposes, and 487 00:25:57,720 --> 00:25:59,840 Speaker 1: then all of a sudden, Tuesday you're all over Twitter. 488 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:04,920 Speaker 1: You're tweeting about the Lions defensive backfield, your tape dogg 489 00:26:04,960 --> 00:26:09,320 Speaker 1: and on Tuesday night and then and then here you go, 490 00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:14,720 Speaker 1: here you go dropping nugs about Isaiah Simmons. We're noting this. 491 00:26:16,200 --> 00:26:19,560 Speaker 1: He's got the NFL Network Polo on today now? Is 492 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,159 Speaker 1: he on Insight training Kip Live? Maybe yes, maybe no, 493 00:26:22,560 --> 00:26:27,679 Speaker 1: But as the job that you want, that's that's right. 494 00:26:27,720 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: And I somehow moved to um, you know the studio 495 00:26:30,640 --> 00:26:31,879 Speaker 1: that we were in last year, if you want to 496 00:26:32,000 --> 00:26:34,760 Speaker 1: last week at this time in my other house, was 497 00:26:34,880 --> 00:26:37,720 Speaker 1: you know, leveling off at about nine degrees each time. 498 00:26:37,760 --> 00:26:40,320 Speaker 1: And I've found a room that is somehow about eight 499 00:26:40,359 --> 00:26:42,440 Speaker 1: degrees hotter. And so I don't know if that's an 500 00:26:42,480 --> 00:26:47,240 Speaker 1: up an upgrade or not. Bears cornerback Already Burns also 501 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:50,360 Speaker 1: on injured reserve with a torn a c L. That 502 00:26:50,600 --> 00:26:55,160 Speaker 1: is very bad, uh for Burns, the former first round pick, 503 00:26:55,880 --> 00:26:59,600 Speaker 1: rarely played for the Steelers last year, and now his 504 00:26:59,720 --> 00:27:03,000 Speaker 1: chance to kind of reboot things with the Bears goes 505 00:27:03,040 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: by the boards. You wonder what comes next for the 506 00:27:06,600 --> 00:27:11,080 Speaker 1: year old. And finally, Mack Wilson, a linebacker for the 507 00:27:11,080 --> 00:27:13,199 Speaker 1: Browns who was in the news this week for the 508 00:27:13,240 --> 00:27:17,520 Speaker 1: horse collar tackle that gave Nick Chubb a possible concussion, 509 00:27:18,080 --> 00:27:21,439 Speaker 1: Well that I believe the same practice he suffered a 510 00:27:21,640 --> 00:27:24,960 Speaker 1: what Mike Garrett Folo the next day, Mike Garrett Folo 511 00:27:25,040 --> 00:27:28,800 Speaker 1: reported a significant hyper extended knee. ESPN reported it would 512 00:27:28,800 --> 00:27:34,000 Speaker 1: be highly optimistic if we saw Wilson before October. So 513 00:27:34,080 --> 00:27:35,880 Speaker 1: it could have been worse, but could have been better. 514 00:27:36,680 --> 00:27:39,840 Speaker 1: Is this guy a difference maker? For you, Mark, I, well, 515 00:27:39,920 --> 00:27:43,119 Speaker 1: he was projected to be a starter. And you know, 516 00:27:43,160 --> 00:27:45,359 Speaker 1: you follow some of these guys on Twitter, and I 517 00:27:45,440 --> 00:27:48,320 Speaker 1: cannot find I cannot think when when this happened. He 518 00:27:48,520 --> 00:27:50,439 Speaker 1: is the guy that I thought of all the Cleveland Browns, 519 00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,320 Speaker 1: who seemed like he was working out like crazy and 520 00:27:53,359 --> 00:27:55,400 Speaker 1: so determined to make a big jump. And he did 521 00:27:55,400 --> 00:27:57,640 Speaker 1: a couple You know, PFF did not love him last year, 522 00:27:57,640 --> 00:28:00,280 Speaker 1: but mac Wilson had a couple of plays they gave 523 00:28:00,320 --> 00:28:02,000 Speaker 1: you a lot of hope that they had found something, 524 00:28:02,040 --> 00:28:04,040 Speaker 1: and I think enough that allowed them to think, we 525 00:28:04,080 --> 00:28:06,159 Speaker 1: can move on from Joe Schobert, we can move on 526 00:28:06,240 --> 00:28:09,959 Speaker 1: from Christian Kirksey. And now that linebacking corps has literally 527 00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:13,600 Speaker 1: nobody other than b. J. Goodson with any experience, and 528 00:28:13,720 --> 00:28:17,120 Speaker 1: I would be very concerned about you know, they played 529 00:28:17,160 --> 00:28:20,439 Speaker 1: the Ravens three weeks from now. I don't like the 530 00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:22,760 Speaker 1: matchup at all. And and no matter what everyone talks 531 00:28:22,760 --> 00:28:25,640 Speaker 1: about the offense, the defense could be one of these 532 00:28:25,680 --> 00:28:28,200 Speaker 1: two if they get more injured than they are now. 533 00:28:28,280 --> 00:28:30,600 Speaker 1: I don't like the situation for them at all. Against 534 00:28:30,640 --> 00:28:34,920 Speaker 1: the run. It's devastating. Their linebacker corps maybe the worst 535 00:28:34,960 --> 00:28:37,840 Speaker 1: in the league in terms of like known quantity right now, 536 00:28:37,880 --> 00:28:40,160 Speaker 1: on paper, that was their worst position group before this 537 00:28:40,280 --> 00:28:42,960 Speaker 1: in and he was probably their best player. Um, I 538 00:28:42,960 --> 00:28:45,440 Speaker 1: guess if you're the positive would be that's a good 539 00:28:45,440 --> 00:28:48,640 Speaker 1: position to have as your worst position group off ball linebacker. 540 00:28:48,760 --> 00:28:52,560 Speaker 1: So we'll we'll see I think their defense. Okay, alright, 541 00:28:52,720 --> 00:28:59,320 Speaker 1: that is what's happening in the news. I need you 542 00:28:59,480 --> 00:29:06,880 Speaker 1: to close your eyes. It's time now to listen, very 543 00:29:07,000 --> 00:29:11,560 Speaker 1: very carefully, get in tune with yourself. How are you 544 00:29:11,600 --> 00:29:16,920 Speaker 1: feeling inside? Do you hear that If you close your 545 00:29:16,960 --> 00:29:19,920 Speaker 1: eyes and tilt your head a little to the right, 546 00:29:21,240 --> 00:29:31,560 Speaker 1: you can hear the training camp with Wow? Does that 547 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,560 Speaker 1: just put you in a place or what that was needed? 548 00:29:35,600 --> 00:29:39,960 Speaker 1: That was serene? Sometimes I forget, like this is going 549 00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,120 Speaker 1: to be the part that's cut for social I should 550 00:29:42,320 --> 00:29:44,960 Speaker 1: I should like dial in that we're on camera. I 551 00:29:44,960 --> 00:29:46,880 Speaker 1: try to just think it's like a podcast, you know, 552 00:29:47,240 --> 00:29:49,200 Speaker 1: But then I just halfway through that, I'm like, oh, yeah, 553 00:29:49,320 --> 00:29:51,800 Speaker 1: this one's gonna be cut, and I'm just sort of 554 00:29:51,880 --> 00:29:55,040 Speaker 1: like checking my text. I had the same exact thought, 555 00:29:55,040 --> 00:29:57,440 Speaker 1: and suddenly it was like, oh, dance. Dan probably knew 556 00:29:57,480 --> 00:29:59,920 Speaker 1: that this was coming, so he very in a very 557 00:30:00,040 --> 00:30:02,200 Speaker 1: organized way, closed his eyes, and I caught up later 558 00:30:02,200 --> 00:30:05,000 Speaker 1: and thought, I'm gonna jump in here and do as 559 00:30:05,040 --> 00:30:07,440 Speaker 1: I'm told. I mean, it's an audio form, you know. 560 00:30:07,720 --> 00:30:11,719 Speaker 1: To begin with, um, that is that is true? Like 561 00:30:11,760 --> 00:30:17,120 Speaker 1: if if this podcast had pff it advanced analytics and 562 00:30:17,600 --> 00:30:19,640 Speaker 1: there was a staff for like parts of the show 563 00:30:19,680 --> 00:30:22,880 Speaker 1: that get cut for social, the numbers would really tell 564 00:30:22,920 --> 00:30:27,200 Speaker 1: you that it's Erica tam posey jams that get cut 565 00:30:27,240 --> 00:30:32,400 Speaker 1: more than anything. We're just again, just background players the 566 00:30:32,480 --> 00:30:36,200 Speaker 1: chorus when it comes to our social game on around 567 00:30:36,200 --> 00:30:38,960 Speaker 1: the NFL, many of them very deserving because if we 568 00:30:39,000 --> 00:30:41,640 Speaker 1: get too far down that wormhole will never appear on 569 00:30:41,680 --> 00:30:46,960 Speaker 1: social again. So wise, all right, let's go through it. 570 00:30:46,960 --> 00:30:50,000 Speaker 1: We're just gonna kind of jump around the league, our 571 00:30:50,120 --> 00:30:52,920 Speaker 1: league with whispers. Let's try not to get too bogged 572 00:30:52,920 --> 00:30:56,880 Speaker 1: down on any one topic to let's hit him. Yeah, 573 00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:58,640 Speaker 1: I have quite a few as well. So we're gonna 574 00:30:58,720 --> 00:31:00,760 Speaker 1: kind of jump around and it on things and then 575 00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:04,960 Speaker 1: move along, uh, sharing the whispers that we're hearing across 576 00:31:04,960 --> 00:31:09,560 Speaker 1: the league. All right, let's start with one. I thought 577 00:31:10,200 --> 00:31:12,920 Speaker 1: I was very intriguing today out of New England that 578 00:31:13,440 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: Mike Reese the dean of Patriots reporters suggested not just 579 00:31:18,920 --> 00:31:21,720 Speaker 1: in an article, but to Bill Belichick that the team 580 00:31:21,800 --> 00:31:27,960 Speaker 1: might use a two quarterback systems. You don't do that 581 00:31:28,040 --> 00:31:33,000 Speaker 1: unless you unless right. Well, I think he was. I 582 00:31:33,040 --> 00:31:35,240 Speaker 1: think he has not only a good feel of the 583 00:31:35,280 --> 00:31:37,320 Speaker 1: type of team that they are, which is a team 584 00:31:37,360 --> 00:31:41,040 Speaker 1: I could absolutely see doing this, but that he has 585 00:31:41,200 --> 00:31:45,520 Speaker 1: some information um backing this that he's not going to 586 00:31:45,600 --> 00:31:48,160 Speaker 1: report anything. He's responsible. He also knows that they haven't 587 00:31:48,200 --> 00:31:50,840 Speaker 1: made any final decisions, but that someone like Mike Reese, 588 00:31:50,880 --> 00:31:52,720 Speaker 1: and that's why I wanted to bring it up as 589 00:31:52,720 --> 00:31:55,760 Speaker 1: a whisper, would not bring this up unless I think 590 00:31:55,760 --> 00:31:58,600 Speaker 1: there was some conversation that Okay, let's say Cam Newton, 591 00:31:58,640 --> 00:32:01,520 Speaker 1: who supposedly early you know, it looks great, but you know, 592 00:32:01,560 --> 00:32:04,160 Speaker 1: obviously doesn't know the offense as well as Didhaman Hoyer 593 00:32:04,160 --> 00:32:06,920 Speaker 1: who have been there. Um that they could shuttle them 594 00:32:07,040 --> 00:32:09,240 Speaker 1: in and out. I think this is something Bell Bill 595 00:32:09,240 --> 00:32:12,960 Speaker 1: Bill Belichick would like love to do before settling in 596 00:32:13,760 --> 00:32:16,880 Speaker 1: later into just Cam Newton most likely, but early on 597 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:20,000 Speaker 1: maybe a little of both. You know. I can remember 598 00:32:20,000 --> 00:32:23,160 Speaker 1: a game I was sitting in college was like four 599 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:27,320 Speaker 1: thousand years ago, but Broncos Cowboys and the Broncos shuttled 600 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,680 Speaker 1: between two quarterbacks the entire time, and it was amazing 601 00:32:30,800 --> 00:32:33,840 Speaker 1: as a fan to watch. I thought it was highly dramatic. 602 00:32:33,880 --> 00:32:35,840 Speaker 1: It didn't work at all. I think that when this 603 00:32:35,920 --> 00:32:39,320 Speaker 1: has been tried, people always hate it. It just doesn't work. 604 00:32:39,360 --> 00:32:41,000 Speaker 1: And I think Belichick would have a beat on the 605 00:32:41,040 --> 00:32:43,160 Speaker 1: fact that it's um. It could be like a one 606 00:32:43,240 --> 00:32:45,280 Speaker 1: or two week type thing. I think Belichick would want 607 00:32:45,280 --> 00:32:47,480 Speaker 1: to know exactly. He would know by then who his 608 00:32:47,560 --> 00:32:49,680 Speaker 1: guy is. But this is the weirdest lead up for 609 00:32:49,840 --> 00:32:52,880 Speaker 1: can New or anyone else to succeed. Belichick, though, came 610 00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:54,680 Speaker 1: off that and said that don't be not you know, 611 00:32:54,720 --> 00:32:56,840 Speaker 1: he said, we could lean on a ton of super 612 00:32:56,880 --> 00:33:00,360 Speaker 1: heavy sets UM twenty three formations where you know you're 613 00:33:00,360 --> 00:33:02,480 Speaker 1: talking to running backs three tight ends. I think they're 614 00:33:02,480 --> 00:33:05,320 Speaker 1: gonna get really freaky um, which only adds to the 615 00:33:05,360 --> 00:33:09,000 Speaker 1: intrigue of what Belichick. You know, I think that he's 616 00:33:09,000 --> 00:33:10,880 Speaker 1: got a heart of revenge the season to show what 617 00:33:10,920 --> 00:33:12,680 Speaker 1: he can do, and all these little people saying the 618 00:33:12,720 --> 00:33:15,760 Speaker 1: Patriots won't be relevant will be bitten in the butt. 619 00:33:17,640 --> 00:33:21,040 Speaker 1: If anyone else was connected to this type of scheme 620 00:33:21,040 --> 00:33:25,600 Speaker 1: in a lesser coach would be absolutely destroyed. Since it's Belichick, 621 00:33:25,640 --> 00:33:28,400 Speaker 1: people will say, that's an interesting thought. He has a 622 00:33:28,400 --> 00:33:31,360 Speaker 1: little bit of credibility, doesn't he. I mean, well he 623 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,480 Speaker 1: did when Tom Brady was his quarterback. We'll see what 624 00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,320 Speaker 1: he can do. Now, see if you can still play 625 00:33:35,400 --> 00:33:39,040 Speaker 1: the guitar. Okay, I'm sorry. I didn't see him rolling 626 00:33:39,040 --> 00:33:43,000 Speaker 1: out fourteen win seasons before Tom Brady was around. Well, 627 00:33:43,000 --> 00:33:45,920 Speaker 1: he was there for one year before that, but okay, 628 00:33:46,280 --> 00:33:49,200 Speaker 1: I mean Cleveland also, I think he got canned, as 629 00:33:49,240 --> 00:33:53,040 Speaker 1: I recall, but they also had a GA the fewest 630 00:33:53,080 --> 00:33:54,960 Speaker 1: points in the league, win eleven and five, and in 631 00:33:55,080 --> 00:33:57,000 Speaker 1: the last team to win a playoff game in Cleveland, 632 00:33:57,080 --> 00:33:59,920 Speaker 1: So Belichick was treated unfairly when they moved to both 633 00:34:00,280 --> 00:34:02,680 Speaker 1: eleven and five with the Castle too. Let's move on 634 00:34:02,720 --> 00:34:09,240 Speaker 1: to the next Whisper Snow playoffs. Go ahead, Mark, alright, 635 00:34:09,480 --> 00:34:11,280 Speaker 1: I'll go to Philly because I think we've been focused 636 00:34:11,280 --> 00:34:13,920 Speaker 1: on their wide receiver group for a while and it 637 00:34:14,080 --> 00:34:17,000 Speaker 1: sounds seems like they've hit on something with Jillen Reagor 638 00:34:17,080 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: like they winz is pushing him. Uh, He's compared him 639 00:34:20,280 --> 00:34:23,520 Speaker 1: to Julio Jones. They are working together well in practice. 640 00:34:23,880 --> 00:34:26,919 Speaker 1: Aaron moorehead, the wide receiver coach, says that he has 641 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 1: that swag. I think they're just very pleased with their 642 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,200 Speaker 1: overall rookie group. I throw another name in here too, 643 00:34:32,360 --> 00:34:34,279 Speaker 1: who is sort of like a dark horse to make 644 00:34:34,320 --> 00:34:39,520 Speaker 1: an impact. Quez Watkins, super fast, UM six round pick 645 00:34:39,920 --> 00:34:44,840 Speaker 1: average six, most receiving yards per game in college football 646 00:34:44,920 --> 00:34:46,640 Speaker 1: last year. He's a super small guy that when you 647 00:34:46,640 --> 00:34:49,600 Speaker 1: take Marky's goodwin out of the picture, someone like this 648 00:34:49,680 --> 00:34:52,040 Speaker 1: could get snaps that he might not have otherwise. But 649 00:34:52,080 --> 00:34:54,640 Speaker 1: I think Jalen Reagor is someone that is obviously at 650 00:34:54,680 --> 00:34:56,839 Speaker 1: this point ahead of the curve. You know, you get 651 00:34:56,880 --> 00:34:59,080 Speaker 1: some of these white outs that don't really pan out 652 00:34:59,080 --> 00:35:02,240 Speaker 1: early and dot. This is a huge for the Eagles 653 00:35:02,320 --> 00:35:04,080 Speaker 1: if they you know, you get to Sean Jackson back 654 00:35:04,120 --> 00:35:07,359 Speaker 1: to h a team that basically had forty two skill 655 00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,760 Speaker 1: position players six ft under a year ago. Even even worse, 656 00:35:12,160 --> 00:35:17,759 Speaker 1: even more pressing or more important for the Eagles is 657 00:35:17,800 --> 00:35:21,080 Speaker 1: the Smiles Sanders whisper out there. Uh he's weak to 658 00:35:21,160 --> 00:35:25,520 Speaker 1: week with a lower body injury, and this man was 659 00:35:26,239 --> 00:35:29,279 Speaker 1: the key to their offense in the second half. I 660 00:35:29,360 --> 00:35:32,640 Speaker 1: don't like the sound of it. ESPN reports at Sanders 661 00:35:32,760 --> 00:35:35,600 Speaker 1: quote will be ready to play in Week one. Hopefully 662 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,600 Speaker 1: it's just one of those things where he's uh, they're 663 00:35:38,640 --> 00:35:41,520 Speaker 1: being safe and cautious, which makes a lot of sense. 664 00:35:41,840 --> 00:35:44,680 Speaker 1: But then you again worry about the odd nature of 665 00:35:44,719 --> 00:35:47,640 Speaker 1: this year and whether injuries are going to stick with 666 00:35:47,680 --> 00:35:51,160 Speaker 1: players the way everything has been rolled out. Sanders was 667 00:35:51,200 --> 00:35:54,320 Speaker 1: on the field for their snaps in the second half 668 00:35:54,520 --> 00:35:57,319 Speaker 1: of last season and was a dynamo for them. They 669 00:35:57,360 --> 00:36:00,799 Speaker 1: cannot afford with that wide receiver opium and if some 670 00:36:00,880 --> 00:36:03,239 Speaker 1: of these guys pan out, Sanders not to have a 671 00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:07,319 Speaker 1: similarly productive year. And he's he's a guy. I think 672 00:36:07,320 --> 00:36:11,520 Speaker 1: everyone is expecting to be one of the clear lead 673 00:36:11,800 --> 00:36:14,200 Speaker 1: type backs, that he is going to be a fulcrum 674 00:36:14,280 --> 00:36:16,640 Speaker 1: of their offense. But you have to do it, you know. 675 00:36:16,760 --> 00:36:19,080 Speaker 1: Running back is one of those positions where it's like 676 00:36:19,719 --> 00:36:22,640 Speaker 1: you gotta see it, you gotta see it before you 677 00:36:22,680 --> 00:36:25,520 Speaker 1: believe it. He he had two carries his last year 678 00:36:25,880 --> 00:36:28,239 Speaker 1: Penn State, so that's a pretty big workload. But he's 679 00:36:28,239 --> 00:36:31,440 Speaker 1: never he's never been that guy um that's kind of 680 00:36:31,480 --> 00:36:34,560 Speaker 1: been a bell cow type. There are fantasy drafts where 681 00:36:34,600 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: he's going number one. There is a belief and that 682 00:36:37,719 --> 00:36:39,960 Speaker 1: he can do it. I don't think this is a 683 00:36:40,000 --> 00:36:42,560 Speaker 1: serious injury at this point because the Eagles and other 684 00:36:42,600 --> 00:36:46,600 Speaker 1: teams are basically just shelving anyone who get these lower 685 00:36:46,760 --> 00:36:50,040 Speaker 1: lower bodies. And there are people You're wait, you're telling 686 00:36:50,080 --> 00:36:54,920 Speaker 1: me Mark that there are people out there taking Miles Sanders. 687 00:36:55,480 --> 00:36:58,359 Speaker 1: I'm not saying it's like happening all over the place, 688 00:36:58,400 --> 00:37:01,760 Speaker 1: but I actually watched the show you yesterday where that's 689 00:37:01,800 --> 00:37:03,759 Speaker 1: where that exact same thing happened, and it threw me 690 00:37:03,800 --> 00:37:07,160 Speaker 1: because you're getting into fantasy suddenly. I'm let's dive into 691 00:37:07,200 --> 00:37:10,520 Speaker 1: this little I'm hearing a little whispers about Mark Sessler. 692 00:37:11,719 --> 00:37:13,480 Speaker 1: This is the time to prepare. You know, it's been 693 00:37:13,520 --> 00:37:16,000 Speaker 1: a weird offseason where I thought maybe nothing would exist 694 00:37:16,040 --> 00:37:19,840 Speaker 1: in October November. Were suddenly, you know, we're two fortnits 695 00:37:19,880 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: away from everything existing and probably being the only thing 696 00:37:22,640 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: that exists in our life for six paces. You used 697 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,120 Speaker 1: to call the fantasy community a bunch of hobby horses, 698 00:37:28,200 --> 00:37:30,720 Speaker 1: like playing like a pretend game, but now you're watching 699 00:37:30,760 --> 00:37:33,480 Speaker 1: like live stream draft, so it just feels like a 700 00:37:33,520 --> 00:37:36,960 Speaker 1: big one eighty degree turn. You know, I'm trying to 701 00:37:37,000 --> 00:37:38,759 Speaker 1: I'm trying to change in better ways. But I also 702 00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,319 Speaker 1: i'd ask you this is it bad to be a 703 00:37:40,320 --> 00:37:44,040 Speaker 1: hobby horse playing a game? Hey? Look it worse than everything. 704 00:37:44,719 --> 00:37:48,520 Speaker 1: I love Fantasy. It gave me a entry into this 705 00:37:48,560 --> 00:37:51,640 Speaker 1: whole thing. I thank God for Fantasy. And let me 706 00:37:51,680 --> 00:37:56,479 Speaker 1: neatly transition into a plug for the Fantasy Extravaganza, which 707 00:37:56,520 --> 00:38:00,719 Speaker 1: returns to the Around the NFL podcast next Wednesday. And 708 00:38:00,800 --> 00:38:04,200 Speaker 1: let me just say this, listeners, this will be the 709 00:38:04,239 --> 00:38:09,799 Speaker 1: biggest extravaganza yet. That is a promise. No extravaganza in 710 00:38:09,800 --> 00:38:14,800 Speaker 1: the history of a t M extravaganzas will ever approach 711 00:38:14,880 --> 00:38:18,640 Speaker 1: what we're doing next week. Make sure you listen to 712 00:38:18,640 --> 00:38:23,399 Speaker 1: that episode before you draft. We don't even bother showing up. Well, 713 00:38:23,560 --> 00:38:28,279 Speaker 1: you could listen to Extravaganza all dayvaganza. It was a 714 00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:31,920 Speaker 1: year ago during the Extravaganza that you, um, you deemed 715 00:38:31,960 --> 00:38:34,160 Speaker 1: me to go sit behind the glass. I wasn't even 716 00:38:34,200 --> 00:38:36,799 Speaker 1: part of the show. I don't think you can pull that. 717 00:38:36,880 --> 00:38:38,560 Speaker 1: You can't pull that move on me this time. Or 718 00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:41,479 Speaker 1: we could, like we put you in the waiting room 719 00:38:41,640 --> 00:38:45,120 Speaker 1: of stream Yards. Well you probably could, or Erica could. 720 00:38:45,160 --> 00:38:48,880 Speaker 1: So you know what, why would we want to after 721 00:38:49,200 --> 00:38:53,600 Speaker 1: this development that you're watching live streamed drafts, can I 722 00:38:53,680 --> 00:38:59,319 Speaker 1: jump in the middle. That's in Philadelphia, it's connected, we're 723 00:38:59,360 --> 00:39:04,120 Speaker 1: doing eagle US. I heard a little whisper and this 724 00:39:04,200 --> 00:39:07,000 Speaker 1: is not someone that's with the team. But after I 725 00:39:07,040 --> 00:39:11,480 Speaker 1: sent out something um talking about the whole Nate Sudfeld thing, 726 00:39:11,520 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: he might be the backup, not Jalen Hurts because they 727 00:39:13,640 --> 00:39:15,680 Speaker 1: don't have a time I got, I got a little 728 00:39:15,680 --> 00:39:19,479 Speaker 1: whisper from someone connected that was like, that's a bunch 729 00:39:19,520 --> 00:39:23,880 Speaker 1: of that's a bunch of public bs, that that Jalen 730 00:39:24,040 --> 00:39:28,279 Speaker 1: Hurts is out there impressing the heck out of this 731 00:39:28,400 --> 00:39:31,960 Speaker 1: coaching staff and team on a daily basis, that sunfell 732 00:39:32,080 --> 00:39:34,880 Speaker 1: baby shrinking from the pressure a little bit, and that 733 00:39:35,040 --> 00:39:40,280 Speaker 1: anything Peterson was saying publicly was a bunch of expectation 734 00:39:40,480 --> 00:39:44,600 Speaker 1: lowering um nonsense hopefuly that they loved that they loved 735 00:39:44,640 --> 00:39:47,960 Speaker 1: them some Jalen Hurts early on a natural leader and 736 00:39:48,239 --> 00:39:53,120 Speaker 1: a you know, an athletic marvel. Wow, that's a good whisper. 737 00:39:53,160 --> 00:39:56,120 Speaker 1: That's like a legit whisper. It was meant to lead 738 00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:58,960 Speaker 1: with that. I think we whispering about Jalen Hurts on 739 00:39:58,960 --> 00:40:02,319 Speaker 1: our network show a few times. Did you guys hear 740 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:05,080 Speaker 1: that by the one? Why do you seem so scared? 741 00:40:05,880 --> 00:40:09,360 Speaker 1: All I wanted to do is to play with you bag. 742 00:40:12,040 --> 00:40:17,399 Speaker 1: That is problematic. Ure, Let's let's uh, let's head over 743 00:40:17,520 --> 00:40:20,080 Speaker 1: to uh your neck of the woods. Mark Sess. I 744 00:40:20,120 --> 00:40:22,120 Speaker 1: want to talk about the Cleveland Browns, and this is 745 00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,840 Speaker 1: not just Cleveland Browns thing, but more a reminder of 746 00:40:24,880 --> 00:40:27,239 Speaker 1: what's going on in our league right now. J C. 747 00:40:27,400 --> 00:40:31,440 Speaker 1: Treader their starting center has a nice scope that they 748 00:40:31,520 --> 00:40:34,560 Speaker 1: clear out some loose particles, and so far there is 749 00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:39,320 Speaker 1: positive vibes. Rap Sheet reported that Treader will be ready 750 00:40:39,360 --> 00:40:43,040 Speaker 1: or should be ready for week one. But the Browns, 751 00:40:43,360 --> 00:40:45,960 Speaker 1: like my Jets and other teams out there, are really 752 00:40:46,040 --> 00:40:51,120 Speaker 1: up against it. If you're trying to gain a coherent 753 00:40:51,680 --> 00:40:54,640 Speaker 1: feeling on your offensive line this summer, it's hard enough 754 00:40:55,000 --> 00:40:58,719 Speaker 1: as it is. It's been it's unheard of to imagine 755 00:40:58,719 --> 00:41:00,920 Speaker 1: to get an offensive and you can play all the 756 00:41:00,960 --> 00:41:03,600 Speaker 1: call of duty you want. I've read some notebooks that 757 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:08,279 Speaker 1: offensive lineman are finding other ways to bond group text 758 00:41:08,840 --> 00:41:11,880 Speaker 1: chains with memes and everybody's becoming best friends. But she 759 00:41:11,960 --> 00:41:14,400 Speaker 1: actually got to be on the field getting the work 760 00:41:14,440 --> 00:41:17,879 Speaker 1: in to develop chemistry and know what the hell you're doing, 761 00:41:18,120 --> 00:41:20,200 Speaker 1: so the Browns will use in his example, tread or 762 00:41:20,320 --> 00:41:22,279 Speaker 1: maybe back week one. Even if he's back week one, 763 00:41:22,320 --> 00:41:25,520 Speaker 1: he's not practicing with the team right now. This is 764 00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,239 Speaker 1: a Browns team that has new tackles on the right 765 00:41:28,360 --> 00:41:31,360 Speaker 1: and left side, and now a potential fifth round pick, 766 00:41:31,880 --> 00:41:34,880 Speaker 1: rookie Nick Harris, who's gonna be picking up snaps at 767 00:41:34,920 --> 00:41:38,480 Speaker 1: center in the pivot as they say in the game. Uh. 768 00:41:38,520 --> 00:41:41,560 Speaker 1: In the meantime, it's just the challenge for the Browns 769 00:41:41,560 --> 00:41:43,840 Speaker 1: and other teams that are trying to get things figured 770 00:41:43,840 --> 00:41:46,759 Speaker 1: out on a reworked offensive line. I think they have 771 00:41:46,880 --> 00:41:49,400 Speaker 1: one secret weapon, and you're absolutely right, because they like 772 00:41:49,560 --> 00:41:51,880 Speaker 1: Nick Harris, but this was not the plan. They had 773 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:55,000 Speaker 1: a number of of offensive lineman opt out um which 774 00:41:55,080 --> 00:41:58,280 Speaker 1: really killed him at right guard. And you're asking Jendrick Wills, 775 00:41:58,280 --> 00:41:59,960 Speaker 1: and we talked about us a hundred times. I can't 776 00:42:00,000 --> 00:42:02,120 Speaker 1: think of a tougher deal than a guy that played 777 00:42:02,200 --> 00:42:04,399 Speaker 1: right tackle in college to go have to suddenly play 778 00:42:04,480 --> 00:42:08,160 Speaker 1: left tackle again three weeks ago against a revamped Ravens 779 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:10,960 Speaker 1: defensive line and a Ravens defense that's gonna come in 780 00:42:10,960 --> 00:42:13,840 Speaker 1: and kick people's butts. Anyways, I think the secret weapon 781 00:42:13,920 --> 00:42:16,960 Speaker 1: is Bill Callahan. I mean, everywhere he goes the offensive 782 00:42:17,000 --> 00:42:20,160 Speaker 1: line really shines. And I had watched an interview with 783 00:42:20,239 --> 00:42:22,719 Speaker 1: him where he went on for about forty five minutes 784 00:42:22,719 --> 00:42:25,360 Speaker 1: about each one of these guys and barring injury, I 785 00:42:25,400 --> 00:42:28,560 Speaker 1: do think they'll be much improved. But losing Shredder, who 786 00:42:28,680 --> 00:42:32,040 Speaker 1: got a contract extension last year and totally deserved it. Um, 787 00:42:32,320 --> 00:42:34,439 Speaker 1: I don't like that situation at all, or the idea 788 00:42:34,480 --> 00:42:36,359 Speaker 1: that he that he gets in there too early. I mean, 789 00:42:36,400 --> 00:42:39,719 Speaker 1: I this is this is a huge concern and it 790 00:42:39,719 --> 00:42:42,279 Speaker 1: would affect every part of the offense. Arguably the best 791 00:42:42,280 --> 00:42:49,120 Speaker 1: coalfensive line coach of the last and yeah, Callahan is 792 00:42:49,200 --> 00:42:51,800 Speaker 1: maybe the best in the game. But back to my point, 793 00:42:52,640 --> 00:42:54,480 Speaker 1: he's still gotta be on the field and these guys 794 00:42:54,480 --> 00:42:56,440 Speaker 1: gotta be getting the reps. It's gonna be very It 795 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,439 Speaker 1: is gonna be and I know I'm not the first 796 00:42:58,480 --> 00:43:02,040 Speaker 1: to make this point. It is gonna be sloppy those 797 00:43:02,080 --> 00:43:05,359 Speaker 1: first few weeks, especially Week one. I'm gonna call right now, 798 00:43:05,400 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: we're gonna have a record in um pre snap pre 799 00:43:09,280 --> 00:43:12,360 Speaker 1: snap in fractions. They're gonna be talking about that on 800 00:43:12,400 --> 00:43:16,400 Speaker 1: the second Monday Night Football game, making them run those laps. 801 00:43:16,640 --> 00:43:20,320 Speaker 1: Speaking of what they they announced that the lead Monday 802 00:43:20,400 --> 00:43:24,680 Speaker 1: Night football team is on the second Monday Night game, 803 00:43:25,760 --> 00:43:29,560 Speaker 1: while the Herb Street Combo Fowler is on the first one. 804 00:43:30,480 --> 00:43:32,719 Speaker 1: If you're a conspiracy theorist, it's kind of like, well, 805 00:43:32,760 --> 00:43:35,399 Speaker 1: which team do you really want? You know more, which 806 00:43:35,440 --> 00:43:38,080 Speaker 1: team Steelers Giants get a bigger game? Is going to 807 00:43:38,120 --> 00:43:40,839 Speaker 1: the college guys? It kind of raises the question of 808 00:43:41,800 --> 00:43:44,239 Speaker 1: who's gonna be there next year. I have a I 809 00:43:44,480 --> 00:43:47,879 Speaker 1: have a theory about that. Monday Football has been under 810 00:43:47,960 --> 00:43:52,040 Speaker 1: so much fire for so long now that they probably 811 00:43:52,040 --> 00:43:53,880 Speaker 1: want to get a big chunk of the East Coast 812 00:43:53,920 --> 00:43:56,600 Speaker 1: audience to go to sleep after the Giants game, so 813 00:43:56,680 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: that the second team, if they don't thrive in in 814 00:43:59,600 --> 00:44:01,719 Speaker 1: week one, out of the gate, there's a lot less 815 00:44:02,000 --> 00:44:05,839 Speaker 1: less pressure, a little less pressure. Yeah, alright, I like that. 816 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:10,840 Speaker 1: Let's move on, Greg, alright, um, let's go to Oakland? 817 00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:19,680 Speaker 1: Where are our friend vic Victor four? How did we 818 00:44:19,760 --> 00:44:23,919 Speaker 1: mispronounce his name before I remember we did. It's tap 819 00:44:24,000 --> 00:44:27,800 Speaker 1: for I'm gonna check. I'm pretty sure it's tap for. 820 00:44:28,120 --> 00:44:34,840 Speaker 1: So he he was noting that that Mariota um buzz 821 00:44:34,920 --> 00:44:40,319 Speaker 1: coming from John Gruden's press conference. Um was maybe a 822 00:44:40,360 --> 00:44:43,960 Speaker 1: little overstated in retrospect, and he even prefaced this little 823 00:44:44,000 --> 00:44:47,720 Speaker 1: note saying, here's one for the aggregators and then noted 824 00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:52,920 Speaker 1: how stiff he he noted, how stiff and um not great. 825 00:44:53,000 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: Marcus Mariota looked throwing the football little four five of 826 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:02,000 Speaker 1: training camp, which makes sense because we've seen Marcus Mariota 827 00:45:02,120 --> 00:45:05,400 Speaker 1: throw throw the football, and that if you were just 828 00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,160 Speaker 1: watching these two guys, you would not think there's there's 829 00:45:08,200 --> 00:45:13,680 Speaker 1: anything remotely close between Derek carr uh in Mariota, especially 830 00:45:14,239 --> 00:45:15,759 Speaker 1: for a guy like car who has now been in 831 00:45:15,800 --> 00:45:18,120 Speaker 1: that offense, and it is often very good in camping 832 00:45:18,160 --> 00:45:20,640 Speaker 1: and should be good in camp, and it's just it's 833 00:45:20,680 --> 00:45:26,960 Speaker 1: just worth pointing out a little nice whispers stunning Tafer 834 00:45:27,040 --> 00:45:29,920 Speaker 1: in a big spot, stunning that Marcus Mariota actually doesn't 835 00:45:29,920 --> 00:45:32,880 Speaker 1: look that good, as if we didn't get enough years 836 00:45:33,000 --> 00:45:36,440 Speaker 1: of tape to concern that they are pumping up Henry 837 00:45:36,480 --> 00:45:38,960 Speaker 1: Ruggs and Brian Edwards quite a bit. I mean, I 838 00:45:39,000 --> 00:45:41,360 Speaker 1: know it's rookies, and I know it's early, but I 839 00:45:41,360 --> 00:45:43,399 Speaker 1: do think these guys will be playing and I don't 840 00:45:43,400 --> 00:45:47,040 Speaker 1: doubt that Henry Ruggs speed is kind of on other worldly, 841 00:45:47,200 --> 00:45:50,120 Speaker 1: so they are liking at least what what they see 842 00:45:50,160 --> 00:45:53,279 Speaker 1: so far in practice. From those guys, mark, you're up, 843 00:45:54,200 --> 00:45:57,279 Speaker 1: well go to Buffalo. And I just impressed with how 844 00:45:57,360 --> 00:46:00,640 Speaker 1: quickly the Bills have put together, um a bunch of 845 00:46:00,640 --> 00:46:04,160 Speaker 1: interesting skill position players where they were a an empty cupboard, 846 00:46:04,200 --> 00:46:06,920 Speaker 1: you know, two or three years ago. Running back, you've 847 00:46:06,920 --> 00:46:10,160 Speaker 1: got Devin Singletary, Zack Moss is getting a lot of heat, 848 00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:13,440 Speaker 1: Joe Biscaglia, and Matthew Fairborne from the Art the Athletic 849 00:46:13,880 --> 00:46:16,080 Speaker 1: UH went off on how he has been sort of 850 00:46:16,080 --> 00:46:18,960 Speaker 1: a physical berserker at the goal line and basically saying 851 00:46:19,000 --> 00:46:21,480 Speaker 1: if he if this continues out of practices and into 852 00:46:21,480 --> 00:46:24,440 Speaker 1: the regular season, that you pair Moss, who is a 853 00:46:24,680 --> 00:46:28,040 Speaker 1: like a really thumper type running back with single Terry 854 00:46:28,239 --> 00:46:30,240 Speaker 1: and you've got something in the backfield to go along 855 00:46:30,280 --> 00:46:33,439 Speaker 1: with the rebuilt wide receiver group. The same crew though, 856 00:46:33,760 --> 00:46:35,880 Speaker 1: has mentioned that I think the thing is with Josh 857 00:46:35,880 --> 00:46:37,400 Speaker 1: Allen and this is and this is not a whisper, 858 00:46:37,400 --> 00:46:39,000 Speaker 1: this is George just sort of like what we would 859 00:46:39,000 --> 00:46:42,400 Speaker 1: expect to happen, is that he had a practice earlier 860 00:46:42,440 --> 00:46:43,799 Speaker 1: in the week. I think it was Monday when Cole 861 00:46:43,840 --> 00:46:46,880 Speaker 1: Beasley said he is making throws, completing throws that he 862 00:46:46,920 --> 00:46:49,759 Speaker 1: couldn't even attempt a year ago. But then on Tuesday 863 00:46:50,080 --> 00:46:52,720 Speaker 1: he was completely all over the map according to some reports. 864 00:46:52,760 --> 00:46:55,439 Speaker 1: So that's the Josh Allen experience. But there's a lot 865 00:46:55,480 --> 00:46:59,080 Speaker 1: to like around him, and it does not dim my 866 00:46:59,200 --> 00:47:01,480 Speaker 1: hopes for buff Low as an potential a f C 867 00:47:01,640 --> 00:47:07,480 Speaker 1: title team, title title game. I'm not saying they're gonna 868 00:47:07,520 --> 00:47:09,680 Speaker 1: win the game. I mean, if they get to the game, 869 00:47:09,960 --> 00:47:13,320 Speaker 1: they can win it. I mean, if you're if speaking, 870 00:47:13,400 --> 00:47:18,279 Speaker 1: here's a little fantasy extravaganza, uh teaser for you. Do 871 00:47:18,400 --> 00:47:22,920 Speaker 1: not hesitate to draft Josh Allen because he's gonna be 872 00:47:22,960 --> 00:47:25,839 Speaker 1: great in fantasy. He's gonna run the ball, he's gonna 873 00:47:25,840 --> 00:47:28,760 Speaker 1: score touchdowns of his legs. He'll throw twenty to twenty 874 00:47:28,760 --> 00:47:32,840 Speaker 1: four more. But geez, I don't put too much into 875 00:47:33,440 --> 00:47:35,720 Speaker 1: these practices. Right now, everything is so out of whack. 876 00:47:36,200 --> 00:47:39,319 Speaker 1: But geez, yeah, I don't need there, I do. I think, hey, 877 00:47:39,840 --> 00:47:43,360 Speaker 1: early fantasy stuff, don't be hesitant to draft Singletary. I 878 00:47:43,400 --> 00:47:45,480 Speaker 1: know Moss is there and he's gonna steal some touchdowns 879 00:47:45,480 --> 00:47:48,600 Speaker 1: and maybe that helps I think mom to bump Singletary's 880 00:47:48,680 --> 00:47:50,920 Speaker 1: value down a little bit. But Devin Singletary is a 881 00:47:50,960 --> 00:47:53,960 Speaker 1: special talent. We'll see if Zach Moss is and if 882 00:47:53,960 --> 00:47:57,200 Speaker 1: he gets more work, which he should forget it. Why 883 00:47:57,239 --> 00:47:59,560 Speaker 1: are you eating the microphone? Greg, give it to me, 884 00:47:59,680 --> 00:48:03,400 Speaker 1: Mike a phone. It doesn't sound good or look good. Actually, 885 00:48:04,440 --> 00:48:07,760 Speaker 1: that just became the social clip. All right, let's cycle 886 00:48:07,840 --> 00:48:12,160 Speaker 1: through quickly, a couple more guys each, Greg, alright, Uh, 887 00:48:12,200 --> 00:48:14,120 Speaker 1: I want to give Jason Varette a little shout out. 888 00:48:14,120 --> 00:48:17,120 Speaker 1: I I mentioned the forty nine secondary could be a problem. 889 00:48:17,239 --> 00:48:20,560 Speaker 1: Jason Varette has only played one healthy season in the NFL, 890 00:48:20,680 --> 00:48:23,400 Speaker 1: so this comes with a major asterix. But there's some 891 00:48:24,080 --> 00:48:27,040 Speaker 1: whispers in San Francisco that he kind of looks like 892 00:48:27,040 --> 00:48:29,040 Speaker 1: the old guy that we used to see with the 893 00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:32,880 Speaker 1: Chargers and that he's getting first team snaps, and uh, 894 00:48:33,040 --> 00:48:35,040 Speaker 1: he would. He would be a major boost for them, 895 00:48:35,080 --> 00:48:37,399 Speaker 1: even if they got five hundred seven hundred snaps out 896 00:48:37,400 --> 00:48:38,600 Speaker 1: of him. I don't know if he's going to start 897 00:48:38,680 --> 00:48:40,440 Speaker 1: or not. They should, they should try to be careful. 898 00:48:40,480 --> 00:48:42,160 Speaker 1: But he was a dynamic player. I mean, he was 899 00:48:42,160 --> 00:48:44,000 Speaker 1: a pro bowler. I thought he was maybe an all 900 00:48:44,040 --> 00:48:46,319 Speaker 1: Pro quality player that was five years ago now, so 901 00:48:46,400 --> 00:48:49,360 Speaker 1: it's it's asking a lot. The guy has not been healthy, 902 00:48:49,400 --> 00:48:51,760 Speaker 1: but he's just a name we kind of forgot existed 903 00:48:51,800 --> 00:48:54,759 Speaker 1: on the forty Niners and he might be playing. You're 904 00:48:54,760 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: obsessed with the forty is right now? Greg Mark Mark, 905 00:48:59,600 --> 00:49:01,120 Speaker 1: all right. I will just say I think the early 906 00:49:01,200 --> 00:49:03,520 Speaker 1: Rookie of the Year race to me is getting exciting 907 00:49:03,600 --> 00:49:07,839 Speaker 1: because up in Detroit, DeAndre Swift has been doing it all. 908 00:49:07,920 --> 00:49:10,680 Speaker 1: Tim Twentyman saying that he's been great not only as 909 00:49:10,719 --> 00:49:12,920 Speaker 1: a runner but on passing downs, which means, you know, 910 00:49:12,960 --> 00:49:14,840 Speaker 1: if you're carry on Johnson, I don't know what the 911 00:49:14,920 --> 00:49:16,399 Speaker 1: role will be there, but I love the under Swift. 912 00:49:16,480 --> 00:49:18,480 Speaker 1: And then what if he goes up against Jonathan Taylor, 913 00:49:18,680 --> 00:49:21,000 Speaker 1: who the cults are at this point now where they're 914 00:49:21,000 --> 00:49:24,759 Speaker 1: putting clips of Jonathan Taylor weaving through the defense to 915 00:49:24,880 --> 00:49:27,560 Speaker 1: classical music. They love him, and I think that he's 916 00:49:27,600 --> 00:49:29,839 Speaker 1: going to have a huge role in a pretty young, 917 00:49:29,840 --> 00:49:33,920 Speaker 1: but exciting offense. Let's circle back to the Detroit Lions. 918 00:49:34,200 --> 00:49:36,919 Speaker 1: T J. Hockenson, the two thousand nineteen first round pick, 919 00:49:37,600 --> 00:49:40,680 Speaker 1: acknowledge this week that his ankle is still not quite 920 00:49:40,680 --> 00:49:45,239 Speaker 1: on after sustaining a season ending injury less November. You 921 00:49:45,280 --> 00:49:49,439 Speaker 1: may remember Hocketson going off in his NFL debut last 922 00:49:49,440 --> 00:49:52,120 Speaker 1: September for a hundred and thirty one yards, but then 923 00:49:52,120 --> 00:49:54,799 Speaker 1: he just kept getting hurt a bunch of injuries and 924 00:49:54,840 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: then the ankle injury that ended his season. You hope 925 00:49:57,480 --> 00:50:01,400 Speaker 1: that his lower half is right or close to completely 926 00:50:01,480 --> 00:50:04,439 Speaker 1: right by the time games start, because if he could 927 00:50:04,440 --> 00:50:08,640 Speaker 1: build on his chemistry with Matthew Stafford and already solid 928 00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,880 Speaker 1: Detroit offense gets that much better. But it is fair 929 00:50:12,160 --> 00:50:15,279 Speaker 1: now to be concerned that the angle that wrecked his 930 00:50:15,320 --> 00:50:23,200 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen could impact his Sorry, Patra, I'm gonna I'm 931 00:50:23,200 --> 00:50:26,319 Speaker 1: gonna throw out one uh in the same division Minnesota. 932 00:50:27,120 --> 00:50:29,400 Speaker 1: A name I haven't seen a lot, you know getting 933 00:50:29,440 --> 00:50:34,880 Speaker 1: buzzed this offseason is Irv Smith of the Vikings. Hit it. 934 00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:36,799 Speaker 1: Let's hear it for the little girl. How do you 935 00:50:36,840 --> 00:50:39,960 Speaker 1: seem so scared? All I wanted to do is play 936 00:50:40,000 --> 00:50:43,919 Speaker 1: with you. Don't be scared of this Vikings offense. If 937 00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,960 Speaker 1: Smith could be dynamic, He's one of a bunch of 938 00:50:46,000 --> 00:50:49,600 Speaker 1: second year guys who I think can be really exciting. 939 00:50:49,640 --> 00:50:51,640 Speaker 1: They're using him a little bit more as receiver. He's 940 00:50:51,640 --> 00:50:53,680 Speaker 1: a guy if you waited till the end of fantasy draft. 941 00:50:53,719 --> 00:50:57,040 Speaker 1: Too much fantasy info here that I'd be excited to take. 942 00:50:57,080 --> 00:50:59,120 Speaker 1: But he he seems to be flashing. Maybe it's taken 943 00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:02,040 Speaker 1: justin Jefferson the rookie a little longer to get up 944 00:51:02,040 --> 00:51:05,200 Speaker 1: to speed than than you would want. Uh, But to 945 00:51:05,280 --> 00:51:07,359 Speaker 1: me or Smith might be might be the number two 946 00:51:07,360 --> 00:51:12,000 Speaker 1: receiver in that team behind Adam Feeling. I got one 947 00:51:12,040 --> 00:51:14,040 Speaker 1: for you real quick. Well, I just go down to Miami, 948 00:51:14,080 --> 00:51:16,160 Speaker 1: and I didn't expect, you know, to a to start 949 00:51:16,239 --> 00:51:19,480 Speaker 1: right away necessarily. I think it's because chan Gailey is 950 00:51:19,520 --> 00:51:22,879 Speaker 1: there and they know Ryan Fitzpatrick so well, the two 951 00:51:22,880 --> 00:51:24,759 Speaker 1: of them, that it's gonna be fitzy. But there were 952 00:51:24,760 --> 00:51:27,160 Speaker 1: some whispers I read some things here that even Josh 953 00:51:27,280 --> 00:51:29,600 Speaker 1: Rosen has at times looked a little more with it 954 00:51:29,600 --> 00:51:32,040 Speaker 1: and better than to uh. And I'll tell you know, 955 00:51:32,120 --> 00:51:34,680 Speaker 1: it's camp. I mean, don't well it means so, it 956 00:51:34,719 --> 00:51:36,719 Speaker 1: means it's a whisper. It's not a news report, but 957 00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,480 Speaker 1: it's a little it's a little whisper out there. I 958 00:51:38,520 --> 00:51:40,600 Speaker 1: still think to uh, you know, probably by week four 959 00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,120 Speaker 1: they're gonna want to see what he can what he 960 00:51:42,160 --> 00:51:47,200 Speaker 1: can do. Ben Roethlisberger is throwing with some quote nice velocity. 961 00:51:47,239 --> 00:51:53,279 Speaker 1: According to the Athletic, his throwing motion appears the change 962 00:51:53,360 --> 00:51:56,600 Speaker 1: Mark Caboli, who's I think been at it for a 963 00:51:56,600 --> 00:52:00,239 Speaker 1: long time with the Steelers, Big Big often on the 964 00:52:00,320 --> 00:52:04,640 Speaker 1: d DFP. I feel like, there you go. Caboli Uh 965 00:52:04,880 --> 00:52:07,960 Speaker 1: said he noticed it especially later in practice. So it's 966 00:52:07,960 --> 00:52:10,560 Speaker 1: throwing motion a little bit different, more of a quote 967 00:52:10,560 --> 00:52:16,560 Speaker 1: whip action, almost like Philip Rivers esque. So I don't 968 00:52:16,600 --> 00:52:20,319 Speaker 1: know what that means. It's just a whisper. But Ben 969 00:52:20,400 --> 00:52:24,000 Speaker 1: Roethlisberger with a Philip Rivers type arm sounds like a 970 00:52:24,040 --> 00:52:28,200 Speaker 1: total disaster. But we'll see, uh if he could still 971 00:52:28,239 --> 00:52:33,399 Speaker 1: play the guitar after tearing three elbow ligaments. Uh last September. 972 00:52:33,719 --> 00:52:36,399 Speaker 1: I think it's interesting because I read all that and um, 973 00:52:36,440 --> 00:52:38,239 Speaker 1: you know, he said it was especially at the end 974 00:52:38,280 --> 00:52:41,960 Speaker 1: of practice. Short army, the short army. But then you 975 00:52:42,080 --> 00:52:44,280 Speaker 1: I went to NFL dot Com and that's my employer, 976 00:52:44,360 --> 00:52:46,080 Speaker 1: so I think they do a wonderful job. And the 977 00:52:46,640 --> 00:52:50,080 Speaker 1: top video was big Ben lobbs deep dimes at Hines 978 00:52:50,160 --> 00:52:52,200 Speaker 1: Field and training camps. It's like we've got a couple 979 00:52:52,239 --> 00:52:55,239 Speaker 1: of different storylines clashing here. I mean, is it that 980 00:52:55,360 --> 00:52:57,239 Speaker 1: or is he short army philip rivers? I mean, you 981 00:52:57,320 --> 00:52:59,439 Speaker 1: guys have been to some of these you know, we've 982 00:52:59,440 --> 00:53:02,960 Speaker 1: been together to these rams early practices and stuff, and 983 00:53:02,960 --> 00:53:06,920 Speaker 1: and seeing them live, you do realize how much you're 984 00:53:06,960 --> 00:53:11,240 Speaker 1: putting your faith into the reporter recording like hot takes 985 00:53:11,239 --> 00:53:13,680 Speaker 1: off of this stuff, because I think most people watching 986 00:53:13,680 --> 00:53:16,840 Speaker 1: it would be like, oh, there was some practice. You 987 00:53:16,920 --> 00:53:18,560 Speaker 1: gotta really know what you're watching, and you know what 988 00:53:18,600 --> 00:53:20,480 Speaker 1: a guy like Mark Coboli has been going for twenty 989 00:53:20,480 --> 00:53:23,719 Speaker 1: plus years and is a real football head. You know 990 00:53:23,840 --> 00:53:25,799 Speaker 1: it and you respect it, and that's why it's one 991 00:53:25,840 --> 00:53:28,000 Speaker 1: of the whispers. But then you've got to be careful. 992 00:53:28,080 --> 00:53:30,160 Speaker 1: There's some other cities, there's some other sources maybe you 993 00:53:30,160 --> 00:53:33,240 Speaker 1: don't want to put as much stock into And speaking 994 00:53:33,239 --> 00:53:43,240 Speaker 1: of the Steelers, whispers whispers, whispers whispers, the d D Kinkabala, 995 00:53:43,440 --> 00:53:45,960 Speaker 1: who does great coverage of the nf A f C 996 00:53:46,120 --> 00:53:50,120 Speaker 1: North and the Steelers for NFL Network, I believe she'll 997 00:53:50,120 --> 00:53:53,719 Speaker 1: be joining us on the Around the NFL broadcast on 998 00:53:53,880 --> 00:53:56,400 Speaker 1: NFL Network on Saturday morning, so stay tuned for that. 999 00:53:56,440 --> 00:53:59,840 Speaker 1: Will almost certainly be asking her about Big Ben and 1000 00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:05,400 Speaker 1: other matters concerning the black and gold, black and yellow, 1001 00:54:05,440 --> 00:54:09,360 Speaker 1: black and yellow brow, black and gold, black and yellow, 1002 00:54:09,520 --> 00:54:12,279 Speaker 1: black and yellow. Well, I have a different name for them, 1003 00:54:12,280 --> 00:54:22,239 Speaker 1: but I'll accept that your daddy basically since two. Um, 1004 00:54:22,520 --> 00:54:26,160 Speaker 1: all right, that that closes the whispers for now, but well, 1005 00:54:26,200 --> 00:54:33,480 Speaker 1: I'm sure we'll bring back some whispers before the season 1006 00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:36,000 Speaker 1: kicks off again, because that's a good way to you know, 1007 00:54:36,719 --> 00:54:38,480 Speaker 1: you see what's going on out there, because we are 1008 00:54:38,520 --> 00:54:41,560 Speaker 1: now it's legit. And I loved, I really loved the 1009 00:54:41,600 --> 00:54:44,759 Speaker 1: most recent episode of Hard Knocks. How they really did 1010 00:54:45,120 --> 00:54:50,120 Speaker 1: um managed to show you the enthusiasm and the excitement, uh, 1011 00:54:50,160 --> 00:54:52,520 Speaker 1: and the joy, to be real honest with you, that 1012 00:54:52,600 --> 00:54:56,360 Speaker 1: was coming out of that those buildings as they actually 1013 00:54:56,360 --> 00:55:00,080 Speaker 1: put on helmets and and shoulder pads and run and 1014 00:55:00,120 --> 00:55:02,359 Speaker 1: all over the field and hitting each other, rubbing their 1015 00:55:02,360 --> 00:55:05,879 Speaker 1: bodies against one another. As Greg would say, UM, so 1016 00:55:06,360 --> 00:55:09,640 Speaker 1: it's good, it's good. It almost felt it almost felt 1017 00:55:09,640 --> 00:55:13,919 Speaker 1: a little bit normal, um watching Hard Knocks when they're 1018 00:55:13,920 --> 00:55:17,400 Speaker 1: just going through a practice and some poor undrafted rookie 1019 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:22,600 Speaker 1: is getting absolutely obliterated for being overweight, and it was like, Okay, 1020 00:55:22,640 --> 00:55:26,520 Speaker 1: this feels normal. Normalcy is not a bad thing, right. 1021 00:55:26,520 --> 00:55:28,360 Speaker 1: It was like kind of slow paced, but it was 1022 00:55:28,400 --> 00:55:30,600 Speaker 1: a little it kind of reminded me of like football 1023 00:55:30,719 --> 00:55:33,320 Speaker 1: a SMR. You know, it's just like kind of pleasant 1024 00:55:33,400 --> 00:55:37,400 Speaker 1: to have football things happening, you know, with the sounds 1025 00:55:37,400 --> 00:55:39,400 Speaker 1: and everything on the TV. It didn't have to have 1026 00:55:39,440 --> 00:55:41,560 Speaker 1: a lot of like juice you know, or big like 1027 00:55:42,000 --> 00:55:46,520 Speaker 1: you know, um plot points. I mean, you want to 1028 00:55:46,560 --> 00:55:48,240 Speaker 1: you know, you want to fall asleep talk to Jared 1029 00:55:48,280 --> 00:55:50,560 Speaker 1: Goff while playing golf for a few more minutes. But 1030 00:55:52,200 --> 00:55:55,320 Speaker 1: it was just sort of like pleasant to have there. 1031 00:55:55,480 --> 00:55:57,640 Speaker 1: I like that. I like the episode a lot just 1032 00:55:57,680 --> 00:55:59,880 Speaker 1: because it really did feel like a slice of life. 1033 00:56:00,120 --> 00:56:02,799 Speaker 1: They kind of accomplished what the show sets out to do, 1034 00:56:02,880 --> 00:56:05,719 Speaker 1: which is taking you behind the scenes to what it's 1035 00:56:05,760 --> 00:56:09,319 Speaker 1: like there, and that I think exactly. I think they 1036 00:56:09,320 --> 00:56:12,239 Speaker 1: got that across ahead Mark. Yeah. I think the contrast 1037 00:56:12,280 --> 00:56:14,200 Speaker 1: to like what we were dealing with with the Oakland 1038 00:56:14,280 --> 00:56:16,960 Speaker 1: Raiders a year ago in Antonio Brown, which was you know, 1039 00:56:17,040 --> 00:56:20,160 Speaker 1: a massive news story and unfolding. I don't you know 1040 00:56:20,160 --> 00:56:22,359 Speaker 1: that with this And I'd like to interest to see 1041 00:56:22,360 --> 00:56:24,279 Speaker 1: what they do with Melvin Gordon next week. They're both 1042 00:56:24,360 --> 00:56:27,360 Speaker 1: very likable teams, and I've been harsh on the l 1043 00:56:27,400 --> 00:56:30,960 Speaker 1: A teams, but I've grown fonder of them this week especially. 1044 00:56:31,000 --> 00:56:33,279 Speaker 1: I didn't like last week's episode very much, but the 1045 00:56:33,320 --> 00:56:36,640 Speaker 1: whole like Andrew Whitworth thing, um finding out how Corona 1046 00:56:36,680 --> 00:56:38,920 Speaker 1: spread through his family and him like sort of calling 1047 00:56:38,920 --> 00:56:41,919 Speaker 1: out his nanny on HBO, I thought was the next 1048 00:56:41,960 --> 00:56:44,200 Speaker 1: level of music. He did not go out of he 1049 00:56:44,239 --> 00:56:45,840 Speaker 1: did not call her and he actually went out of 1050 00:56:45,840 --> 00:56:48,160 Speaker 1: his way to say he didn't blame her for it, 1051 00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: but he was, like it started. Her name has ever 1052 00:56:51,640 --> 00:56:54,040 Speaker 1: appeared on television, She's probably not. You know, there could 1053 00:56:54,040 --> 00:56:56,960 Speaker 1: there could be other circumstances. But I thought also the 1054 00:56:57,000 --> 00:57:00,440 Speaker 1: Seth Ryan Rex Ryan's son thing was fast neating to 1055 00:57:00,480 --> 00:57:03,359 Speaker 1: watch because from another Corona angle where like there's this 1056 00:57:03,760 --> 00:57:06,120 Speaker 1: decision or you know, results come in and then is 1057 00:57:06,160 --> 00:57:08,399 Speaker 1: it true is it not? And like, but the whole 1058 00:57:08,400 --> 00:57:11,000 Speaker 1: idea that Seth Ryan materialized, which makes so much sense 1059 00:57:11,040 --> 00:57:14,360 Speaker 1: because you know, Anthony Lynn and Rex Ryan are super 1060 00:57:14,400 --> 00:57:16,560 Speaker 1: tight and it makes sense that Seth Ryan would show 1061 00:57:16,640 --> 00:57:18,560 Speaker 1: up there. But um, I thought there was a lot 1062 00:57:18,600 --> 00:57:22,880 Speaker 1: to like in the episode. Speaking of beat reporters, anyone 1063 00:57:22,960 --> 00:57:26,120 Speaker 1: that's a Jets fan that keeps up with the team. 1064 00:57:26,240 --> 00:57:28,680 Speaker 1: Back in the golden years of Rex and the Jets, 1065 00:57:28,960 --> 00:57:32,160 Speaker 1: it was a very popular notebook item that Mark Sanchez 1066 00:57:32,240 --> 00:57:36,240 Speaker 1: would attend a lot of Rex's sons football games, high 1067 00:57:36,280 --> 00:57:39,040 Speaker 1: school football games. So it's just funny how the passage 1068 00:57:39,040 --> 00:57:42,439 Speaker 1: of time. Now that high school kid is Seth Ryan, 1069 00:57:42,440 --> 00:57:45,280 Speaker 1: who's a centerpiece of an episode of Hard Knocks for 1070 00:57:45,320 --> 00:57:49,600 Speaker 1: a false positive coronavirus test. I wish we had more Ryan's. 1071 00:57:49,680 --> 00:57:52,200 Speaker 1: It's good to have some Ryan lineage still in the league. 1072 00:57:52,400 --> 00:57:54,480 Speaker 1: But we gotta get Uncle Rob back in the league. 1073 00:57:54,520 --> 00:57:56,920 Speaker 1: I know he's doing great stuff at Sky Sports, and 1074 00:57:59,360 --> 00:58:02,200 Speaker 1: now we need I want Rob coaching on the sidelines, 1075 00:58:02,240 --> 00:58:04,520 Speaker 1: and not just as a linebacker coach. I want him 1076 00:58:04,560 --> 00:58:07,240 Speaker 1: as a d C and swaggering up and down the 1077 00:58:07,280 --> 00:58:10,840 Speaker 1: sidelines of the flowing silver hair and the belly and 1078 00:58:10,920 --> 00:58:14,320 Speaker 1: just being completely in control of his domain. I want 1079 00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:17,640 Speaker 1: that Rob. Oh that means we can't have beer with 1080 00:58:17,680 --> 00:58:20,960 Speaker 1: our Robs. So I I like the just in London 1081 00:58:21,000 --> 00:58:23,760 Speaker 1: with us somewhere, you know, And that would take away 1082 00:58:23,800 --> 00:58:26,240 Speaker 1: if he if he left Sky. I think he's Neil 1083 00:58:26,240 --> 00:58:30,400 Speaker 1: Reynolds as best friend, So we can't do that. You 1084 00:58:30,440 --> 00:58:35,720 Speaker 1: couldn't do that. All right, good stuff, guys, we'll be 1085 00:58:35,760 --> 00:58:38,520 Speaker 1: back on Friday. Lock. Coming up this week, we'll have 1086 00:58:38,600 --> 00:58:42,640 Speaker 1: our news edition of Rundown edition of the Around the 1087 00:58:42,720 --> 00:58:47,040 Speaker 1: NFL podcast, and then also we'll be taping our Around 1088 00:58:47,040 --> 00:58:49,760 Speaker 1: the NFL broadcast that you could check out on Friday 1089 00:58:49,760 --> 00:58:52,760 Speaker 1: afternoon on NFL dot com and then Saturday morning on 1090 00:58:52,800 --> 00:58:55,920 Speaker 1: the network so everyone can see it if they like. 1091 00:58:56,440 --> 00:59:01,400 Speaker 1: All Right, is Dan hans As signing off for quiet 1092 00:59:01,440 --> 00:59:07,600 Speaker 1: Storm Your boss, Ricky Hollywood. There she is, wondering where 1093 00:59:07,640 --> 00:59:47,280 Speaker 1: she's been, all right until Friday.