WEBVTT - Is the Tigers' trade-deadline direction coming into focus? 0:00:09.000 --> 0:00:12.080 And welcome into another episode of Tiger Territory, part of 0:00:12.080 --> 0:00:14.760 the Foul Territory Network, the Troy Tiger's Podcast. I'm Kieren 0:00:14.800 --> 0:00:16.919 Steckley with me as always a man who puts the 0:00:17.000 --> 0:00:18.600 vet in corvette. 0:00:18.880 --> 0:00:20.880 He is Cody Stavenhagen, and how are we doing? 0:00:20.920 --> 0:00:23.040 All right? It was always more of a Mustang guy, 0:00:23.120 --> 0:00:24.880 but that's all right too. 0:00:26.840 --> 0:00:31.560 Yeah, we don't have to get into those wars here. Well, 0:00:32.040 --> 0:00:35.440 so we're recording this early Sunday evening. Obviously, the Tigers 0:00:35.520 --> 0:00:37.920 end up with a split against the Kansas City Royals 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:41.920 after a couple disappointing one run losses late leads given 0:00:42.040 --> 0:00:43.320 up by the bullpen. 0:00:43.960 --> 0:00:44.280 Uh. 0:00:44.520 --> 0:00:47.479 You know, felt a little repetitive there on Saturday and Sunday. 0:00:47.479 --> 0:00:50.159 But we'll break it all down, and I guess the 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:53.280 place to start, in my opinion, Cody is just like, 0:00:53.320 --> 0:00:56.320 how what's the vibe right now? Because this this had 0:00:56.360 --> 0:00:59.240 to feel like I mean, it was like an opportunity 0:00:59.320 --> 0:01:01.760 and a lot of ways they still did like kind 0:01:01.760 --> 0:01:04.240 of gain some ground, get a little bit of momentum, 0:01:04.760 --> 0:01:08.199 but this was an opportunity to really kind of accelerate forward. 0:01:08.280 --> 0:01:10.720 And I think when you split against Kansas City and 0:01:10.840 --> 0:01:13.679 especially when you give up leads late and back to 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:16.319 back games, it's hard for me to say that this 0:01:16.520 --> 0:01:20.120 was an acceleration forward, even if like it. 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:21.920 You know, those numbers. 0:01:21.560 --> 0:01:23.600 Say that you're three and a half back or whatever 0:01:23.600 --> 0:01:26.240 in the wildcard and like everything's still kind of in 0:01:26.280 --> 0:01:28.480 front of you, but it doesn't feel as close as 0:01:28.520 --> 0:01:30.120 it really potentially should have been. 0:01:30.440 --> 0:01:33.200 Yeah, the Tigers are fortunate they actually didn't lose ground 0:01:33.200 --> 0:01:36.440 in the wild card standings this weekend, but disappointing is 0:01:36.480 --> 0:01:39.080 certainly the word that comes to mind. You're playing a 0:01:39.200 --> 0:01:42.880 Royals team without Bobby, with a team that's just pretty 0:01:42.920 --> 0:01:47.039 depleted right now, and you had the lead in both 0:01:47.120 --> 0:01:50.240 games and you coughed the lead away. You didn't really 0:01:50.320 --> 0:01:53.360 hit all that well Saturday or Sunday. You have four 0:01:53.440 --> 0:01:56.480 runs to show for it. Sunday thinks in large parts 0:01:56.480 --> 0:01:59.520 of some help from the Royals in the field. So 0:02:00.320 --> 0:02:02.480 it feels like an opportunity missed when you're in this 0:02:02.600 --> 0:02:05.120 juncture and every game matters and all these things we've 0:02:05.120 --> 0:02:07.680 been saying for a long time now, like this feels 0:02:07.680 --> 0:02:10.560 like a series you certainly would like to win. You're 0:02:10.880 --> 0:02:13.399 splitting with the Royals and you kind of come away. Yeah, 0:02:13.400 --> 0:02:15.880 you didn't lose ground in the wild card, but you 0:02:15.919 --> 0:02:19.600 didn't gain ground either. And there are only what seven 0:02:19.760 --> 0:02:23.040 games left until the trade deadline? Six? I don't know. 0:02:23.080 --> 0:02:29.400 I keeps losing count myself. I think we're nearing some clarity. 0:02:29.639 --> 0:02:33.480 Unless you win all those games or lose all those games, 0:02:33.680 --> 0:02:35.840 I don't think a lot is going to change. So 0:02:35.919 --> 0:02:40.520 I think maybe we should kind of drop consider dropping 0:02:40.560 --> 0:02:44.079 the narrative of like, well, what the front office does 0:02:44.120 --> 0:02:46.960 will be dictated by these next few games. If you 0:02:47.000 --> 0:02:48.840 really step back and think about it, I think the 0:02:48.919 --> 0:02:55.960 Tigers operate like in a way that's disciplined and for 0:02:56.080 --> 0:02:59.600 better or worse, like far too complex of a way 0:02:59.680 --> 0:03:03.320 to let their whole future be determined by whether they're 0:03:04.440 --> 0:03:08.640 four games back or two games back, you know, Like, 0:03:08.720 --> 0:03:12.480 I think things are becoming pretty solid in that this 0:03:12.560 --> 0:03:14.280 is kind of where you're at. You're likely to enter 0:03:14.320 --> 0:03:18.000 the deadline playing pretty well, having some some momentum, but 0:03:18.080 --> 0:03:21.079 slightly on the outside looking at And so what does 0:03:21.120 --> 0:03:24.160 that mean? Hard to say. We see the reports, we 0:03:24.200 --> 0:03:27.119 know what's out there. It certainly seems like the team 0:03:27.240 --> 0:03:30.960 has some interest in the thread, the needle idea and 0:03:31.080 --> 0:03:34.000 given where they're at. As much as personally I don't 0:03:34.040 --> 0:03:37.240 love that approach, it kind of does make some sense, 0:03:39.000 --> 0:03:41.320 you know, not a lot of tangible information. I haven't 0:03:41.320 --> 0:03:43.360 heard a lot, but you're starting to hear a little 0:03:43.360 --> 0:03:46.880 more chatters, a little more whispers and and I We'll 0:03:46.920 --> 0:03:48.720 see what happens in the next handful of days. But 0:03:48.760 --> 0:03:53.200 I wonder if that's all kind of starting to be 0:03:53.360 --> 0:03:53.840 the picture. 0:03:56.480 --> 0:03:58.840 Yeah, I think that's that's a good way to put it. 0:03:58.920 --> 0:04:01.280 And like, one of the things that we used to 0:04:01.320 --> 0:04:03.280 do a lot on this podcast was the whole like 0:04:03.360 --> 0:04:06.440 aren't the Tigers good thing? You know, and and and 0:04:06.440 --> 0:04:10.200 and this really this season is probably a perfect one 0:04:10.200 --> 0:04:11.160 to kind of bring it back. 0:04:11.280 --> 0:04:13.040 And I. 0:04:15.000 --> 0:04:17.280 You know, because I said after Friday's game, I was like, 0:04:17.360 --> 0:04:19.560 good team, you know, like and and I got a 0:04:19.560 --> 0:04:21.200 lot of I got a lot of pushback on that, 0:04:21.279 --> 0:04:24.280 and and look, that's fine. I understand like having watched 0:04:24.279 --> 0:04:27.839 this season, uh, you know, people feeling any type of 0:04:27.839 --> 0:04:29.320 way about this team. 0:04:29.880 --> 0:04:34.920 Uh, but I still maintain good team. Good enough. It does. 0:04:35.160 --> 0:04:37.880 It's hard for me to be like in the prisoner 0:04:37.880 --> 0:04:39.560 of the moment right now, but it's hard for me 0:04:39.640 --> 0:04:42.480 to be like I don't know, probably not good enough 0:04:42.520 --> 0:04:46.040 to get all the way there when you are putting 0:04:46.080 --> 0:04:48.480 out there Kyle Finn again and Drew Summers and they're 0:04:48.600 --> 0:04:51.760 blowing leads and and you know, and funny enough, we 0:04:51.760 --> 0:04:53.440 talked about is that's the kind of the core? Well, 0:04:55.160 --> 0:04:58.440 the cores was played out again and uh and the 0:04:58.480 --> 0:05:00.920 Tigers were not able to to hold leads. 0:05:01.040 --> 0:05:03.880 H Kyle Finnegan five point four oh e ra. 0:05:04.279 --> 0:05:08.400 In July, Cody we talked about he felt like a 0:05:08.400 --> 0:05:11.720 a regression candidate and uh, like what was like the 0:05:12.160 --> 0:05:15.120 worst looking two point something e ra in baseball And 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:18.279 and we're and we're kind of getting yeah, and then 0:05:18.400 --> 0:05:23.200 and then Somers he's gotten some high leverage like opportunities 0:05:23.279 --> 0:05:26.640 of late like and this is AJ saying, you know, 0:05:26.800 --> 0:05:30.240 take here, you know, take it, and sorry for me 0:05:30.320 --> 0:05:34.120 to say that he has passed that test as well. So, uh, 0:05:34.360 --> 0:05:36.680 at a certain point you kind of look around, like 0:05:36.760 --> 0:05:38.760 if you're a j if you're Scott or you know, 0:05:38.800 --> 0:05:40.480 if you're a player on the team, and you kind 0:05:40.480 --> 0:05:43.200 of think like this does this weekend did kind of 0:05:43.200 --> 0:05:45.640 feel like it is what it is weekend? And maybe 0:05:45.640 --> 0:05:48.000 that's maybe maybe that's the new line Cody. That is 0:05:48.040 --> 0:05:50.479 what it is, Tigs. It's not that sexy, but it 0:05:50.560 --> 0:05:51.440 kind of feels appropriate. 0:05:51.520 --> 0:05:53.280 Let's say j been saying that Tigers are a good 0:05:53.279 --> 0:05:55.360 team with a bad record. I think they're a good 0:05:55.360 --> 0:05:57.960 team with a bad record and a bad back end 0:05:58.040 --> 0:06:02.120 of the bullpen. The stat on our screen sums it up. Man, 0:06:02.160 --> 0:06:05.920 it's pretty striking. Twenty three blown saves, twenty one saves. 0:06:06.200 --> 0:06:09.400 You have blown more saves than you have saved games 0:06:09.400 --> 0:06:13.360 this year. That is not a good recipe to contend 0:06:14.680 --> 0:06:17.240 whether before the playoffs. Are certainly not to win and 0:06:17.320 --> 0:06:21.000 make a run deep in the postseason. Yeah, the Tigers 0:06:21.040 --> 0:06:25.000 are ninth overall in bullpen era, but twenty ninth in 0:06:25.080 --> 0:06:30.120 win probability, added twenty ninth in their performance and leverage situations. 0:06:30.640 --> 0:06:35.279 You just like it's repeating the same thing at this point, 0:06:35.279 --> 0:06:38.520 but you just do not have a great ability to 0:06:38.680 --> 0:06:41.120 navigate the back into games. Aj Hinch does not have 0:06:41.200 --> 0:06:44.080 good enough options. And maybe again that's why the thread 0:06:44.120 --> 0:06:46.240 the needle thing could make sense. There's a world where 0:06:46.279 --> 0:06:49.120 you trade Scooble because it just is the right thing 0:06:49.160 --> 0:06:52.120 to do for your future if you get fair offers. 0:06:53.640 --> 0:06:56.840 But you could still add some bullpen helps still maybe 0:06:56.920 --> 0:06:59.440 keep the core of this thing together and hope you 0:06:59.480 --> 0:07:01.560 can get in the playoffs and see what happens and 0:07:01.600 --> 0:07:06.320 then set yourself up well for next year. Again, I 0:07:06.360 --> 0:07:07.919 don't know if that's what I would do if it 0:07:07.960 --> 0:07:10.960 were me, but that approach does make some sense. If 0:07:10.960 --> 0:07:15.440 you're going to not wave the white flag on this season, 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:17.440 I think you got to get some bullpen help. We'll 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:20.320 see what that maybe ends up looking like. 0:07:22.400 --> 0:07:25.040 Yeah, you know, like I tend not to get into 0:07:25.040 --> 0:07:29.200 the waters of like the Tigers need, like you know, 0:07:29.240 --> 0:07:31.680 swing and miss relievers, because it's so apparent. 0:07:32.040 --> 0:07:32.800 It's so apparent. 0:07:33.200 --> 0:07:36.320 Obviously, I'm not disagreeing with the notion, obviously, but it's 0:07:36.360 --> 0:07:40.160 also like that's a thing that almost every single team 0:07:40.720 --> 0:07:44.040 wants and would be and every contender would be looking 0:07:44.080 --> 0:07:48.360 for at the trade deadline. And so therefore, like as 0:07:48.560 --> 0:07:51.000 much as you would say this is a huge need, 0:07:51.200 --> 0:07:54.120 I'm not sure that I would love the cost of 0:07:54.160 --> 0:07:57.200 getting a true difference maker in the back end of 0:07:57.240 --> 0:08:00.840 the bullpen. Given like, even if you do a Trek 0:08:00.920 --> 0:08:03.680 Skoogle and you do the thread to needle thing, it's 0:08:03.800 --> 0:08:06.480 probably not gonna be a good ROI and you talked 0:08:06.520 --> 0:08:09.800 about with the with the front office, like looking at things, 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:11.960 you know, analytically, and you know, try to make sound that. 0:08:11.960 --> 0:08:15.400 It just Yeah, Scott Harris probably agrees with you. I mean, 0:08:15.400 --> 0:08:18.160 we saw what happened last year, and again, if you 0:08:18.200 --> 0:08:21.080 want to criticize this front office, it's both last year 0:08:21.080 --> 0:08:23.000 at the deadline and all this season. They just have 0:08:23.040 --> 0:08:26.880 not constructed a good bullpen, a power bullpen, a bullpen 0:08:26.880 --> 0:08:29.680 that can get swing and miss and it's been one 0:08:29.680 --> 0:08:33.320 of their their fatal flaws dating to last year. But 0:08:33.320 --> 0:08:37.640 you're right. If they didn't add really high octane bullpen 0:08:37.679 --> 0:08:39.480 help last year, they're probably not going to do it 0:08:39.520 --> 0:08:42.000 this year. I mean, I think I would still want 0:08:42.040 --> 0:08:44.080 to target someone who can go out and miss bats. 0:08:44.320 --> 0:08:48.240 Is there someone on this between Rafael Montero and a 0:08:48.280 --> 0:08:50.520 worldist Chapman that you can target. They're not going to 0:08:50.559 --> 0:08:53.840 go get a dude a horse, but can you bring 0:08:53.880 --> 0:08:56.440 in someone with some interesting stuff who maybe can help 0:08:56.480 --> 0:08:59.959 you a little bit. The other question, also a right, 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:02.120 is like if you're not if you're gonna trade Schooble 0:09:02.160 --> 0:09:05.800 and you're not really going for it, there's someone controllable 0:09:05.880 --> 0:09:08.920 you can get, well to get someone controllable, you're gonna 0:09:08.920 --> 0:09:11.000 have to trade a prospect hall. I don't think Scott 0:09:11.040 --> 0:09:17.280 Harris wants to trade valuable assets for for relief pitching. 0:09:17.400 --> 0:09:20.280 Although these guys see what Jim Jarvis is doing with 0:09:20.280 --> 0:09:24.400 the Braves for Raffael Montero, So that's really interesting. That's 0:09:24.400 --> 0:09:27.640 one of a million really interesting dynamics with the trade deadline. 0:09:27.920 --> 0:09:30.120 You guys probably seen all the luxury tax stuff, and 0:09:30.160 --> 0:09:32.320 I think that has to be a very real consideration 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:35.520 for the Tigers. Again, Scooble is kind of the difference 0:09:35.640 --> 0:09:38.520 making guy that it's like, maybe you just have to 0:09:38.559 --> 0:09:41.480 trade him to me. I think maybe the most fascinating 0:09:41.480 --> 0:09:43.720 thing is becoming case he mice because he's kind of 0:09:43.800 --> 0:09:46.160 like he could get you a pretty good return, but 0:09:46.240 --> 0:09:50.079 maybe not a franchise altering return. Maybe you could keep 0:09:50.120 --> 0:09:52.320 him and if you can get that qualifying offer after 0:09:52.400 --> 0:09:55.120 the first round, is that you know, are you content 0:09:55.160 --> 0:09:59.240 with that or are you not? Myz is I think 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:01.520 even less black and white than maybe what you do 0:10:01.600 --> 0:10:05.320 with Scooball. So yeah, there's a lot going on. And 0:10:05.360 --> 0:10:08.040 that's another thing. If the Tigers already do the thread 0:10:08.080 --> 0:10:11.080 the needle type deal, you have to kind of have 0:10:11.240 --> 0:10:14.800 multiple moves all lined up, you know, and that's not 0:10:15.000 --> 0:10:17.760 very easy to do. There are some potential really big 0:10:17.800 --> 0:10:21.480 pitfalls for the Tigers front office, especially given Scott Harris's 0:10:21.520 --> 0:10:26.520 reputation across the league, where that could go badly if 0:10:26.520 --> 0:10:29.000 not everything falls into place exactly how you want it. 0:10:29.080 --> 0:10:33.360 So yeah, man, it's you're gonna have a lot of 0:10:33.400 --> 0:10:34.480 action in the week ahead. 0:10:34.640 --> 0:10:35.640 Yeah yeah. 0:10:35.679 --> 0:10:37.880 Well, you know, like like one of the things that 0:10:37.920 --> 0:10:41.520 I say all the time, especially and related to you know, 0:10:41.559 --> 0:10:44.199 like Saturday's game, where you know, you only score two runs, 0:10:44.240 --> 0:10:46.760 It's like, well, you know, you can't expect to win 0:10:46.800 --> 0:10:48.800 that many games alreadys scoring two runs. So as much 0:10:48.800 --> 0:10:51.560 as the bullpen stuff frustrates me, like how you got 0:10:51.600 --> 0:10:54.640 there frustrates me probably more, And I think the same 0:10:54.720 --> 0:10:58.080 could be said about the current construction of this roster 0:10:58.240 --> 0:11:00.439 and all these things that you just laid out that 0:11:00.800 --> 0:11:04.640 are like their level levers that need to be pulled now, 0:11:04.840 --> 0:11:09.120 all basically at the same time. Whereas how you got 0:11:09.160 --> 0:11:13.479 here is probably a bigger deal that you are forced yourself. 0:11:13.120 --> 0:11:14.040 Into this corner. 0:11:14.320 --> 0:11:16.560 And that's and that's on the front office, and they 0:11:16.840 --> 0:11:20.240 know a lot of things that they tried obviously did 0:11:20.320 --> 0:11:22.240 not work. That's why we're sitting here talking about. 0:11:22.040 --> 0:11:24.440 A team that is fifty and fifty six. 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:28.120 All right, speaking of Terrek schoobol Cody, I want to 0:11:28.160 --> 0:11:30.079 tell you guys that I am looking for the best 0:11:30.120 --> 0:11:34.280 deal on tickets to Wednesday's game, which might be Schoobl's 0:11:34.360 --> 0:11:41.839 last start at CA America Park. Which is why I 0:11:41.880 --> 0:11:44.120 want to give the sponsor of today's video, sea Geek, 0:11:44.160 --> 0:11:46.880 a huge shout out. 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You 0:12:46.920 --> 0:12:49.040 know it looks like he's going to be starting Wednesday 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.839 at America Park, because look, if it is his last start, 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.880 we'll obviously be having planning to talk about. But it 0:12:56.000 --> 0:12:58.520 just would have been kind of funky if his last 0:12:58.520 --> 0:13:01.480 start was Friday night where in the orange alternate with 0:13:01.600 --> 0:13:04.000 the Cooper's down hat, it just would have been funky. 0:13:04.160 --> 0:13:07.920 That was gonna be like our last like instance of 0:13:08.000 --> 0:13:11.640 seeing Schooble in a Home Tigers uniform. Obviously that looks 0:13:11.640 --> 0:13:15.520 like that will not be the case. But it even 0:13:15.520 --> 0:13:17.880 though it looks funky, it was kind of classic Schoobl 0:13:17.880 --> 0:13:21.560 there on Friday, seven point one innings. It gets into 0:13:21.559 --> 0:13:24.319 the eighth obviously, one earned run, four hits, twelve K's 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:28.560 a couple of walks in there, but he kind of 0:13:28.600 --> 0:13:31.440 that game that every single concern if you were in 0:13:31.520 --> 0:13:35.600 the level of concern with Trek Schougle, like everything just 0:13:35.679 --> 0:13:36.839 kind of kicked out for a night. 0:13:36.920 --> 0:13:38.079 It was pretty special to watch. 0:13:38.600 --> 0:13:41.160 Yeah, Terrek Schougle was really good. It was it was 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:45.400 vintage schoobl His last two outings have been pretty lights out, 0:13:47.120 --> 0:13:49.920 Like I thought, he's, yeah, he's all right, he's fine, 0:13:50.000 --> 0:13:53.240 he's good to go. Any even you know, other teams 0:13:53.240 --> 0:13:55.360 that might have had any doubts, I think he has 0:13:55.800 --> 0:13:58.400 certainly answered those with what he has done the last 0:13:58.400 --> 0:13:59.040 two outings. 0:14:00.880 --> 0:14:04.960 So, given everything that we've we've talked about, I have 0:14:05.040 --> 0:14:08.920 a new Tark Schoogl trade uh percentage, and I have it. 0:14:09.080 --> 0:14:13.480 I have fifty three Ark Schoogle will be traded and 0:14:13.559 --> 0:14:16.600 Wednesday could be his last game in ch America. Part 0:14:16.679 --> 0:14:20.960 But uh, like I guess now that we're steamrolling toward 0:14:21.040 --> 0:14:26.320 the deadline, Uh, does that is there a gravitational pull 0:14:26.680 --> 0:14:29.760 to the Schoogle situation right now? Given that, like the 0:14:29.800 --> 0:14:33.520 finality of it is kinda is kind of getting closer. 0:14:33.560 --> 0:14:35.600 Does it feel like that even just like around the 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.160 team or just like you know, the way he talks. 0:14:38.200 --> 0:14:39.640 I know he does a good job. It's like, I'm 0:14:39.640 --> 0:14:41.240 not going to get into that, you know, blah blah blah. 0:14:41.280 --> 0:14:43.080 But you know, it's a question being asked. 0:14:43.080 --> 0:14:46.520 Everything obviously got into a lot, uh in the in 0:14:46.560 --> 0:14:50.320 the past few days. Been a pretty exhausting week. I 0:14:50.400 --> 0:14:53.160 even got criticized on ninety seven to one A little bit, baby, 0:14:53.160 --> 0:14:59.400 That's that's how you know you've made it right? Yeah? Yeah, 0:14:59.440 --> 0:15:01.160 I mean you know, he was asked, you want to 0:15:01.160 --> 0:15:03.360 be here next year? He said, I'm focused on this year. 0:15:03.400 --> 0:15:06.520 So again, I don't really know what you expect him 0:15:06.520 --> 0:15:09.680 to say some that may upset some people. It is interesting, 0:15:09.840 --> 0:15:12.320 you know that. I think there's a certain level of 0:15:12.320 --> 0:15:15.120 Schooble fatigue. People have maybe gotten tired of them, or 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:19.880 don't like them anymore or whatever. I think Schoobl's ready 0:15:19.880 --> 0:15:21.960 for this to be over one way or another. I 0:15:21.960 --> 0:15:24.480 think I'm ready for this to be one, you know, 0:15:24.600 --> 0:15:26.320 over one way or another. I think a lot of 0:15:26.360 --> 0:15:29.320 people probably feel that way. But one of the interesting 0:15:29.400 --> 0:15:31.480 kind of downstream effects. Do you think about it. Let's 0:15:31.480 --> 0:15:33.760 say the tight Yeers do do the thread the needle thing, 0:15:33.840 --> 0:15:37.200 they trade Schooble, but maybe no one else. Maybe they 0:15:37.240 --> 0:15:42.000 add a little bit. How will the clubhouse respond to that? 0:15:42.360 --> 0:15:45.200 IM not so sure. In a way, it's kind of 0:15:45.240 --> 0:15:48.000 this thing being taken out of the room. I don't know. 0:15:48.080 --> 0:15:50.240 Maybe that could be good, even though from what I understand, 0:15:50.280 --> 0:15:53.480 school very popular teammate, one of the kind of leaders 0:15:53.480 --> 0:15:57.600 of this club. But also you take that dude out, Like, 0:15:57.680 --> 0:15:59.640 how does that make the other players feel? Like? I 0:16:00.360 --> 0:16:02.720 don't know, I think that could have a bad impact. 0:16:03.080 --> 0:16:06.840 Even if the Tigers aren't surrendering, it could still feel 0:16:06.920 --> 0:16:09.160 like a surrender in that room, I think if the 0:16:09.160 --> 0:16:12.160 front office were to move Schoogle. So that is certainly 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:15.480 something to be cognizant of. You guys probably saw the 0:16:15.520 --> 0:16:18.320 Bob Nightingale report. You know, the Tigers are interested in 0:16:18.320 --> 0:16:22.240 trying to convince both their players and fans that they're 0:16:22.280 --> 0:16:25.280 not surrendering. And like, if you have to convince someone 0:16:25.320 --> 0:16:28.280 you're not surrendering, then that's that's probably not a great 0:16:28.280 --> 0:16:31.640 spot to be in. So that's one of the many 0:16:31.680 --> 0:16:33.440 factors kind of swirling right now. 0:16:35.520 --> 0:16:38.640 Yeah, and look like everyone is entitled to their own 0:16:38.680 --> 0:16:44.160 perspective on that front office coaching players like I do 0:16:44.520 --> 0:16:49.600 think like there is something to like get portraying the 0:16:49.680 --> 0:16:53.040 right message of a Schooble trade does happen, and saying like, hey, 0:16:53.040 --> 0:16:55.280 look there's still all this in front of us, like 0:16:55.400 --> 0:16:58.040 we you know, this is just something that you know 0:16:58.120 --> 0:17:00.440 had to be done, but you can't also so sell 0:17:00.480 --> 0:17:03.240 them on you put your best foot forward if you 0:17:03.320 --> 0:17:07.439 trade Schooble like that, just that just it's blatantly false 0:17:07.520 --> 0:17:09.480 to to to say that, and they would know that, 0:17:09.960 --> 0:17:13.560 but I would, I would. I would also tell like 0:17:13.760 --> 0:17:16.920 the tough love piece of this is because it's like, hey, 0:17:17.040 --> 0:17:18.280 you you're hitting two hundred. 0:17:18.320 --> 0:17:19.680 That's why we're traded. 0:17:19.400 --> 0:17:22.520 Tech Schooble, because like we we are, we are we 0:17:22.640 --> 0:17:25.320 we are Like you know, however many games below five 0:17:25.400 --> 0:17:27.399 hundred at that time, you know what I mean, Like 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.920 there's an in there's an inward aspectist that they would 0:17:30.960 --> 0:17:34.480 have to feel. Uh, in my opinion, uh as like 0:17:34.520 --> 0:17:37.040 you obviously have failed by this point because you know, 0:17:37.200 --> 0:17:39.040 like you're not good enough to keep the best picture 0:17:39.040 --> 0:17:41.560 in baseball from a from a front office perspective. 0:17:41.720 --> 0:17:45.000 I would love to see someone deliver that exact message. 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:48.440 List of all these guys, why we just traded Schooble. 0:17:48.480 --> 0:17:50.639 It's your fault. It's your fault, it's your fault, and 0:17:50.680 --> 0:17:55.919 it's your fault. That probably wouldn't go over too well you. 0:17:54.720 --> 0:17:56.280 Well, I mean, but. 0:17:56.000 --> 0:17:57.919 But it might not be wrong. 0:17:58.160 --> 0:18:00.320 Also but they but they would also have to know 0:18:00.440 --> 0:18:02.600 that too, Like you have to know that like we, 0:18:02.800 --> 0:18:06.760 like I haven't done enough to like put this team forward, 0:18:06.800 --> 0:18:08.400 you know what I mean, the guys that are struggled 0:18:08.440 --> 0:18:10.320 and and you know, believe me, there's. 0:18:10.600 --> 0:18:11.120 Quite a few. 0:18:11.600 --> 0:18:16.280 Uh so, so yeah, Wednesday, I'm sure will be It 0:18:16.320 --> 0:18:18.920 will be strange. It will be strange, Cody, because that's 0:18:18.960 --> 0:18:22.440 a day game, so obviously, you know, vives are different 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.000 than a night game or whatever. And like, could Schoolbul's 0:18:25.080 --> 0:18:27.639 last start be at America Park, as I remember the 0:18:27.640 --> 0:18:31.439 Tigers be in front of a fraction of the crowd 0:18:31.480 --> 0:18:35.280 that normally is associated with Schooble days, You. 0:18:35.240 --> 0:18:38.240 Know what I mean? That almost that almost doesn't seem right, you. 0:18:38.240 --> 0:18:42.080 Know, liked game. If it's the last one that would be, 0:18:43.480 --> 0:18:45.560 I would be unfortunate. That would kind of add to 0:18:45.640 --> 0:18:48.760 the the I don't even know what the word is, 0:18:48.800 --> 0:18:51.640 just the awkwardness around this, this whole thing. If if 0:18:51.920 --> 0:18:56.200 it were to be the end, it's kind of a weird. Yeah, 0:18:56.520 --> 0:18:57.400 it would be a weird. 0:18:57.280 --> 0:19:00.920 Wouldn't be It would feel you, you know, feeling make 0:19:00.960 --> 0:19:03.760 you feel longing and and you know that's another thing 0:19:03.800 --> 0:19:05.520 too with this team is that they just kind of 0:19:05.560 --> 0:19:09.200 make you feel longing for like it just just don't 0:19:09.280 --> 0:19:13.080 unnecessarily go to third base, you know, just just feel 0:19:13.160 --> 0:19:16.239 the ground ball, you know what I mean, Just just 0:19:16.280 --> 0:19:19.480 don't just just you know, just lay off, lay off 0:19:19.520 --> 0:19:21.920 the breaking ball out low and outside, you know what 0:19:21.960 --> 0:19:24.280 I mean. Just it's like, ah, because I know, I 0:19:24.320 --> 0:19:26.800 know it's in there, and and I do believe it 0:19:26.880 --> 0:19:28.720 is a good team with a bad record and a 0:19:28.800 --> 0:19:33.560 horrendous back end bullpen at times. But this felt like 0:19:33.600 --> 0:19:35.760 a settling weekend to me. And I guess that's kind 0:19:35.760 --> 0:19:37.520 of why I like, it's like affecting my mood a 0:19:37.520 --> 0:19:37.840 little bit. 0:19:37.920 --> 0:19:40.800 But we'll see that. You know, his momentum a real 0:19:40.840 --> 0:19:43.000 thing in baseball or not. You know, the Orioles are 0:19:43.000 --> 0:19:45.959 coming in, they're playing a lot better, but the Tigers 0:19:45.960 --> 0:19:48.439 are going to roll out Cater Montero and Troy Melton 0:19:48.520 --> 0:19:51.959 and Trek Scouble. So if they sweep art, is the 0:19:52.000 --> 0:19:55.600 mood back up? Like I don't know. Yeah, well, and 0:19:55.640 --> 0:19:57.800 that's kind of one of the things, like I think 0:19:57.880 --> 0:20:01.760 the front off is, especially this front off has to 0:20:01.840 --> 0:20:04.960 remove itself, removes or does remove itself from kind of 0:20:05.000 --> 0:20:07.679 those ebbs and flows that the players feel and that 0:20:07.720 --> 0:20:09.760 the fans feel, and that that we kind of go 0:20:09.880 --> 0:20:12.480 through as well. Their job is not really to get 0:20:12.480 --> 0:20:15.000 caught up in that. Their job is to kind of 0:20:15.040 --> 0:20:18.080 look at it more from from thirty thousand feet and 0:20:18.160 --> 0:20:20.480 so that just reinforces I'm not sure what happens in 0:20:20.520 --> 0:20:23.440