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Speaker 1: I get everybody. I'm Dan Horde, and thanks for downloading

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Speaker 1: the Bengals Booth podcast, the Let the Good Times Rule

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Speaker 1: edition as I sit down for a one on one

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Speaker 1: visit with Bengals head coach Zach Taylor. What got him

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Speaker 1: through those tough first two years, what was his favorite

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Speaker 1: moment from last year's Super Bowl run? And why is

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Speaker 1: Pete Maravich. We'll cover that and much more, plus shorter

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Speaker 1: Now let's get to football. The Bengals held their first

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Speaker 1: four voluntary offseason practices this week, and after the final one,

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Speaker 1: I had the opportunity to catch up with head coach

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Speaker 1: Zach Taylor about the aftermath of the Bengal Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: run and the long, difficult road led up to it.

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Speaker 1: Zachie joked recently that whenever the Matthew Stafford a T

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Speaker 1: and T commercial comes on, you yell at your boys

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Speaker 1: to change the channel. In all seriousness, our Super Bowl

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Speaker 1: reminders painful. Sure, you know that was a game we wanted,

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Speaker 1: all part of just being competitive in sports. Joe Burrow

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Speaker 1: stied the tape. What did I do well? What could

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Speaker 1: we we've talked several times since then. You are one

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Speaker 1: Merevitch family. You know, He's always watched his drill tapes

431
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Speaker 1: he had that was like Pete Merevitch's homework, the pistol

432
00:21:06,560 --> 00:21:08,560
Speaker 1: Pete's homework basketball, I think is what it was called.

433
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Speaker 1: That was all the drills I did as a kid.

434
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Speaker 1: So he was a guy had his post ripe on

435
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Speaker 1: my wall, and so if you're if you're crossing sports there,

436
00:21:15,600 --> 00:21:17,840
Speaker 1: I think Pete Merevitch would be the guy I'd like

437
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Speaker 1: to meet. Now, that's interesting. I did not realize we

438
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Speaker 1: share a fascination with Pete Merevich. Yeah, you know, I

439
00:21:25,080 --> 00:21:28,440
Speaker 1: wanted kids to call me Pistol when I was playing

440
00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:32,959
Speaker 1: youth basketball, but it only it ended with me asking

441
00:21:33,000 --> 00:21:35,000
Speaker 1: them to do it. They certainly weren't weren't inspired to

442
00:21:35,040 --> 00:21:36,920
Speaker 1: do it based on my play. I always wanted to

443
00:21:37,000 --> 00:21:39,400
Speaker 1: dribble basketball in a movie theater, you know, because he's

444
00:21:39,480 --> 00:21:41,960
Speaker 1: there's a scene from from the movie The Pistol where

445
00:21:42,000 --> 00:21:44,399
Speaker 1: he dribbles it in the theater. There's one where he

446
00:21:44,400 --> 00:21:45,959
Speaker 1: spins it on his hand for an hour and then

447
00:21:45,960 --> 00:21:47,240
Speaker 1: he throws it off his head and knocks it in

448
00:21:47,320 --> 00:21:49,480
Speaker 1: the basket. So I tried that, you know, for hours

449
00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,960
Speaker 1: and hours as a kid. But you know, I basketball

450
00:21:53,119 --> 00:21:55,080
Speaker 1: was kind of my first love as a kid, and

451
00:21:55,080 --> 00:21:57,680
Speaker 1: so I was obsessed with pistol Pete because here's a

452
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Speaker 1: guy who maybe didn't have the physical tributes of a

453
00:22:01,240 --> 00:22:03,680
Speaker 1: lot of great players. He worked more on the technical aspect,

454
00:22:03,720 --> 00:22:05,359
Speaker 1: and that was really the only way I could survive

455
00:22:05,400 --> 00:22:07,920
Speaker 1: as a kid, and so I think I was drawn

456
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Speaker 1: closely to that. This has been great. I really appreciate

457
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Speaker 1: your time. Congratulations on a remarkable season, and we all

458
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Speaker 1: can't wait to get started on the next one. I

459
00:22:17,080 --> 00:22:20,479
Speaker 1: know it's we're enjoining the offseason right now. We got

460
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Speaker 1: a lot of work to do and we're excited for

461
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Speaker 1: next year as well. Well. Zack's brother got his first

462
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Speaker 1: name from former LSU basketball coach Press Merovich. Pistol Pete's dad, Zach,

463
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Speaker 1: is named for one of his father's former teammates at Oklahoma,

464
00:22:34,800 --> 00:22:38,359
Speaker 1: Zach Henderson, one of the best safeties in Sooner's history,

465
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Speaker 1: who also spelled his first name z Ac. The Bengals

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Speaker 1: Booth podcast is presented by Ultimate Bengals, the freedom play

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Speaker 1: One of the best offseason moves in the NFL last year,

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Speaker 1: with Cincinnati signing Chitubey a wuge to a three year,

473
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Speaker 1: twenty one point seven five million dollar deal. Pro Football

474
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Speaker 1: Focus graded him as the NFL's second best cornerback last year,

475
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Speaker 1: behind the Rams Jalen Ramsey. This week, we discussed his

476
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Speaker 1: breakout season and the status of his friend and teammate

477
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Speaker 1: Jesse Bates Cheetah. How long did it take you to

478
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Speaker 1: put the Super Bowl behind you? M That's an interesting question.

479
00:23:37,040 --> 00:23:41,280
Speaker 1: I'm thinking as long as I'm in this league, I

480
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Speaker 1: probably won't put it behind me because it's not become

481
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Speaker 1: a part of mine motivation, you know, to reach that

482
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Speaker 1: stage again and to complete the full mission. So I

483
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Speaker 1: would say from the whole season, it took me a

484
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Speaker 1: little bit of time to rejuvenate, probably about two months.

485
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Speaker 1: You know, I was still training this stuff, but really

486
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Speaker 1: feeling like I'm ready to go to the for this

487
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Speaker 1: next season. It took me about two months. But that

488
00:24:04,640 --> 00:24:07,040
Speaker 1: Super bowls it's part of a new motivation now, So

489
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Speaker 1: I will ever go away rejuvenate physically or emotionally. Um.

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Speaker 1: Everything you know, obviously, you know, a little Nixon bruces

491
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Speaker 1: from the previous season. I was doing rehab and stuff

492
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Speaker 1: like that. Um Mentally, you know, the season is as

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Speaker 1: gruesome as it is physically as it is mentally. And

494
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Speaker 1: it takes a lot of time to just relax your mind,

495
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Speaker 1: get it back to doing regular human things, and they're

496
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Speaker 1: getting ready to go to do that gruesome thing again

497
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Speaker 1: and and go to a play some dark places where

498
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Speaker 1: you know you have to go to in this game

499
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Speaker 1: to be able to succeed so um spiritually. Also, everything's

500
00:24:41,040 --> 00:24:43,920
Speaker 1: so taxing emotionally all that stuff, but that's that that's

501
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:46,200
Speaker 1: what we signed up for. So you know, we're professionals

502
00:24:46,200 --> 00:24:48,760
Speaker 1: for a reason. And you know, I'm more excited and

503
00:24:48,880 --> 00:24:51,560
Speaker 1: more juiced even than last year I was. So I'm

504
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Speaker 1: really looking forward to where we have to go or

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Speaker 1: where we're gonna go this year. My broadcast partner Dave

506
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Speaker 1: Lapham played in the Bengals for Super Bowl loss, and

507
00:24:58,680 --> 00:25:01,720
Speaker 1: he described it like he look at the ceiling and

508
00:25:01,880 --> 00:25:05,040
Speaker 1: replay the game in his mind because it was so

509
00:25:05,840 --> 00:25:08,840
Speaker 1: disappointing to make it back far and not come away

510
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Speaker 1: with a win. Did you have the same experience? Definitely,

511
00:25:12,960 --> 00:25:15,880
Speaker 1: And people reminds you. You know, everywhere you go, people

512
00:25:15,920 --> 00:25:17,960
Speaker 1: are oh, what happened here? Or why didn't this happen?

513
00:25:18,080 --> 00:25:20,399
Speaker 1: Da da da. You know, it's always speculation and stuff,

514
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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, football is one

515
00:25:22,960 --> 00:25:25,719
Speaker 1: of the greatest forces because it's entertaining. You know, it's

516
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Speaker 1: one of the most entertaining spectacles that we have in

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Speaker 1: the world. And if you put it that way, then

518
00:25:31,240 --> 00:25:33,320
Speaker 1: in essence we are entertainers. So it has to be

519
00:25:33,359 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: a winner or loser, an antagonist or protagonists, all that stuff,

520
00:25:36,760 --> 00:25:39,440
Speaker 1: and we just happened to be the protagonists, but still lose.

521
00:25:39,480 --> 00:25:41,960
Speaker 1: You know, the main character died. But the good thing

522
00:25:42,080 --> 00:25:44,080
Speaker 1: is that we have new life and we have another

523
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Speaker 1: sense to go at it. You had a Super Bowl

524
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Speaker 1: interception that has to be a tremendous highlight for you.

525
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Speaker 1: It is, it is, and it kind of you know,

526
00:25:53,440 --> 00:25:56,920
Speaker 1: obviously gets overshadowed by the loss, which is definitely always

527
00:25:56,960 --> 00:25:59,880
Speaker 1: the goal is to win the game, but there's still

528
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Speaker 1: a blessing to do that and more for my family

529
00:26:02,280 --> 00:26:04,359
Speaker 1: and the people that Karen love about me, you know,

530
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Speaker 1: something that they could brag about to their friends or

531
00:26:06,680 --> 00:26:09,760
Speaker 1: their peers or work buddies and stuff like that. So um,

532
00:26:10,080 --> 00:26:12,920
Speaker 1: to me, it's just me just doing my job according

533
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Speaker 1: to what the coach is telling me to do so

534
00:26:14,440 --> 00:26:16,840
Speaker 1: and I ended up in a great position. So um,

535
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Speaker 1: yeah for visiting with Chittabeya Woo Jay. You had such

536
00:26:20,280 --> 00:26:22,199
Speaker 1: a great year last year for the Bengals. Do you

537
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Speaker 1: feel like you established yourself as one of the best

538
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Speaker 1: corners in the NFL. Established is a weird word. I don't.

539
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Speaker 1: I don't every want to feel like I'm established, but

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Speaker 1: I would say that, Um, last year, I was in

541
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Speaker 1: my most complete mental space, like Claire Clairehead Claire, I

542
00:26:38,760 --> 00:26:42,679
Speaker 1: clear clear mind. I had a real clear focus. You know,

543
00:26:42,800 --> 00:26:46,280
Speaker 1: great team, great guys, and everything just led me to

544
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Speaker 1: have a great year. You know, I have a pretty

545
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:49,840
Speaker 1: good year, and you know, I look when I look

546
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Speaker 1: back at the tape, then every one thing I always

547
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Speaker 1: want to say is that, you know, I put out

548
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Speaker 1: something there that I'm proud of someone with a ton

549
00:26:55,200 --> 00:26:57,160
Speaker 1: of the tape. I could own up to everything that

550
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Speaker 1: that was on that tape because I was preparing correctly, mentally, spiritually, physically,

551
00:27:01,640 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: everything that has to go with it. And the prody

552
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:05,760
Speaker 1: that you got was my very best. So I'm gonna

553
00:27:05,760 --> 00:27:08,960
Speaker 1: plan to do this this year again. This year, and

554
00:27:09,760 --> 00:27:11,840
Speaker 1: my best has gotten better because of training and stuff

555
00:27:11,840 --> 00:27:14,439
Speaker 1: like that. So I'm really excited. If you feel like

556
00:27:14,520 --> 00:27:17,440
Speaker 1: your peers have recognized take you're one of the best

557
00:27:17,440 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: corners in the NFL. I think my peers respect me

558
00:27:21,080 --> 00:27:23,600
Speaker 1: as such. I mean they asked me to do a

559
00:27:23,600 --> 00:27:27,040
Speaker 1: lot last year. Um, you know, me and Eli and

560
00:27:27,240 --> 00:27:30,239
Speaker 1: Mike and the whole secondary pretty much. Um, last year

561
00:27:30,280 --> 00:27:32,280
Speaker 1: was the first year, first year I was traveling with guys,

562
00:27:32,400 --> 00:27:34,320
Speaker 1: you know, some of the top guys in the league.

563
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Speaker 1: That's the thing that numbers don't really explain. You know,

564
00:27:36,119 --> 00:27:38,520
Speaker 1: they don't explain who you were going against and stuff

565
00:27:38,520 --> 00:27:41,000
Speaker 1: like that. But um, I think my job that I

566
00:27:41,000 --> 00:27:44,159
Speaker 1: had to do compared to the other guys that we

567
00:27:44,240 --> 00:27:46,600
Speaker 1: call great in this league, you know, it's right up there.

568
00:27:46,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: So and that's just a product of, you know, the

569
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,800
Speaker 1: guys that I played with, the coaching style, and the

570
00:27:50,800 --> 00:27:52,800
Speaker 1: people that helped me in the off season. So, um,

571
00:27:53,119 --> 00:27:55,720
Speaker 1: just really excited to do it again. The Bengals had

572
00:27:55,760 --> 00:27:59,000
Speaker 1: six draft picks. They use three on defensive backs. I

573
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Speaker 1: think it's a sign of in the NFL right now,

574
00:28:02,240 --> 00:28:04,719
Speaker 1: with all the great quarterbacks and all of the great receivers,

575
00:28:04,800 --> 00:28:08,040
Speaker 1: you need unbelievable depth in the secondary. Did you feel

576
00:28:08,080 --> 00:28:09,919
Speaker 1: the same way when you saw them make those moves? Oh,

577
00:28:10,000 --> 00:28:12,439
Speaker 1: most definitely. You know it was crazy because last year,

578
00:28:12,440 --> 00:28:14,840
Speaker 1: we didn't have a rookie. Essentially we had Antonio Phillips,

579
00:28:14,880 --> 00:28:17,920
Speaker 1: but then um he was traded or let go after

580
00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,359
Speaker 1: the camp and we didn't have a rookie. So you know,

581
00:28:20,359 --> 00:28:23,040
Speaker 1: all the rookie duties were falling on to us veterans. Now,

582
00:28:23,280 --> 00:28:25,560
Speaker 1: it's good to have some guys to do the rookie

583
00:28:25,600 --> 00:28:28,160
Speaker 1: duties and obviously help out where needed. Um, we're gonna

584
00:28:28,160 --> 00:28:30,040
Speaker 1: need everybody, you know. That's that's just let's the name

585
00:28:30,040 --> 00:28:31,840
Speaker 1: of the game. Every year in the NFL, people get hurt,

586
00:28:32,160 --> 00:28:37,119
Speaker 1: things happen. Um, situations happened that you know obviously with

587
00:28:37,320 --> 00:28:41,000
Speaker 1: money wise and you know all that's the crazy things. So, um,

588
00:28:41,280 --> 00:28:43,040
Speaker 1: it's an ever evolving game that we just had a

589
00:28:43,280 --> 00:28:46,920
Speaker 1: you know, adjust property. I'm sitting in Jesse Bates seat.

590
00:28:47,240 --> 00:28:49,720
Speaker 1: I wish it was occupied and that he was here,

591
00:28:49,720 --> 00:28:53,360
Speaker 1: but we understand the realities of contract negotiations in the NFL.

592
00:28:53,760 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: How do you guys in the secondary feel right now

593
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:00,880
Speaker 1: about his situation in his absence? Oh, we love Jesse.

594
00:29:01,040 --> 00:29:04,479
Speaker 1: Jesse's our leader, he's our you know, game change, our closer,

595
00:29:04,520 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: He's everything to us, everything to our team. We're just waiting.

596
00:29:08,520 --> 00:29:11,200
Speaker 1: We know that the people upstairs gonna make the right

597
00:29:11,240 --> 00:29:13,720
Speaker 1: decision and pay him just mavers win at this point.

598
00:29:13,760 --> 00:29:16,280
Speaker 1: So you know, we talked to Jesse every day. We're

599
00:29:16,320 --> 00:29:18,240
Speaker 1: telling him what's going on in the practice. He's asking

600
00:29:18,320 --> 00:29:20,520
Speaker 1: us questions, so he's still very involved with us. It's

601
00:29:20,520 --> 00:29:23,320
Speaker 1: just a matter of win. So we're just waiting patiently

602
00:29:23,360 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 1: for one of our leaders. That's pretty strong comment on

603
00:29:25,880 --> 00:29:28,960
Speaker 1: your part. You think it is happening ultimately by July fifteen.

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00:29:29,480 --> 00:29:32,080
Speaker 1: I hope it does. Yeah, that's up to That's up

605
00:29:32,080 --> 00:29:34,640
Speaker 1: to the people upstairs, but obviously they know more than me.

606
00:29:34,720 --> 00:29:37,400
Speaker 1: I'm just his brother and his teammate. Last thing, I'll

607
00:29:37,480 --> 00:29:39,480
Speaker 1: let you go to do anything fun in the off

608
00:29:39,520 --> 00:29:41,560
Speaker 1: season until now. I know you've got another break coming.

609
00:29:41,600 --> 00:29:44,000
Speaker 1: But how about so far? Yeah, you know, I got

610
00:29:44,000 --> 00:29:45,320
Speaker 1: to link up with a lot of my family I

611
00:29:45,360 --> 00:29:47,480
Speaker 1: haven't seen a long time. So I went to Nigeria,

612
00:29:48,640 --> 00:29:50,720
Speaker 1: saw my grandma, who haven't seen in ten years. I

613
00:29:50,800 --> 00:29:54,280
Speaker 1: was fulfilling my heart, you know, just seeing everybody, my cousins,

614
00:29:54,280 --> 00:29:56,480
Speaker 1: Auntie's uncles, and then I also was had a chance

615
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Speaker 1: to go in New York, where my mom's eide of

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Speaker 1: the family basically lives in saw my cousins I haven't

617
00:30:00,680 --> 00:30:03,040
Speaker 1: seen in ten years, ten plus years, so you know,

618
00:30:03,240 --> 00:30:05,000
Speaker 1: this year it was really about family and that's where

619
00:30:05,000 --> 00:30:07,880
Speaker 1: I got my rejuvenation from. You know, they look at

620
00:30:07,880 --> 00:30:10,080
Speaker 1: me as like the guy who made it from our family,

621
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Speaker 1: but I'm only as strong as them, you know, and

622
00:30:13,480 --> 00:30:16,480
Speaker 1: they're so strong that it gives me shrinks. So really

623
00:30:16,480 --> 00:30:19,920
Speaker 1: appreciate that time that I had with them. How aware

624
00:30:19,760 --> 00:30:22,120
Speaker 1: where was your family in Nigeria about the super Bowl

625
00:30:22,240 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: run and the unbelievable season he had. Yeah, so it's

626
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,520
Speaker 1: a from LA. It's a nine hour difference, so they

627
00:30:27,520 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 1: were up watching. They didn't know what was going on,

628
00:30:30,080 --> 00:30:32,160
Speaker 1: but they'd like to hear that Ebo names should have

629
00:30:32,280 --> 00:30:35,400
Speaker 1: been I was yet on TV. So to give them pride,

630
00:30:35,400 --> 00:30:37,600
Speaker 1: to give them joy and if it feels their spirit too.

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Speaker 1: So when I went back, Oh, Star BOYD, Star Boyd,

632
00:30:40,960 --> 00:30:42,680
Speaker 1: Star Floyd, they were having so much fun with it.

633
00:30:42,760 --> 00:30:45,960
Speaker 1: So that's that's ultimately it's about from me. That's fabulous.

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Speaker 1: Appreciate your time. Great to see you, Welcome back to Cincinnati.

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Speaker 1: Thank you. My final conversation this week is with one

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Speaker 1: of the three offensive linemens signed in free agency, right

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00:30:56,440 --> 00:31:01,800
Speaker 1: tackle l Collins, better known as LC. He's been reunited

638
00:31:01,800 --> 00:31:04,880
Speaker 1: in Cincinnati with his former offensive line coach in Dallas,

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00:31:05,280 --> 00:31:09,640
Speaker 1: Frank Pollock. Man, I'm just happy to be be back, coach.

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00:31:09,720 --> 00:31:12,240
Speaker 1: Frank m happy to be around these guys in his

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Speaker 1: locker room. Uh Now, I can tell us all about

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Speaker 1: ball here, and I love that. What is it about

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Speaker 1: Frank that you respected admire so much? Just the way

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Speaker 1: he teaches the game and way he teaches the position,

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Speaker 1: the position because he played the position, so he knows, um,

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Speaker 1: the things that that work and the things that um,

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Speaker 1: you know that's not realistic. And you know he coaches

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Speaker 1: us hard on technique and that's something that we're gonna

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Speaker 1: use each and every every week and each and every

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Speaker 1: day to prepare ourself for a season. That's a big thing,

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Speaker 1: isn't it? Knowing what's realistic for an offensive line coach? Alutly,

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Speaker 1: there's a lot of things that look good on paper,

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Speaker 1: but when you're getting the when the when the when

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Speaker 1: the real game starts to go, you know all that stuff,

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Speaker 1: you know, and when you get to games, you gotta

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Speaker 1: be able to lean on your technique and you're training.

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Speaker 1: So that's the one thing that because Frank have done

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Speaker 1: great um from from my time with him, were beginning

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Speaker 1: to form a relationship with Burrow. Anythings stand out yet?

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Speaker 1: Oh man, he's he's all about He's all about ball um.

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Speaker 1: His focus each and every day he comes in just

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Speaker 1: the word um. And he's ahead of his time. He's

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Speaker 1: gonna be he's gonna be a great one, ahead of

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Speaker 1: his time in a way. Just the way he sees

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Speaker 1: the game UM and its ability to to to go

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Speaker 1: out and die and those certain things. And you know

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Speaker 1: when you when you're able to see that out of

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Speaker 1: a young player, you know, you know that the siling

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Speaker 1: is hot on. You refer to yourself as the bodyguard

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Speaker 1: when you signed. Are you embracing that? Absolutely no doubt

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Speaker 1: about it, owning up to it, and and uh, that's

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Speaker 1: what it's gonna be about. When an offensive line is

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Speaker 1: building chemistry and continuity. How much is practice and how

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Speaker 1: much is you know, bonding away from practice? Oh it's big,

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Speaker 1: you know, you know it's big to be able to

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Speaker 1: know the guys that you're lining up again and know

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Speaker 1: that family members That goes a long way. You know

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Speaker 1: that kids, you know their wife or whatever case may be.

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Speaker 1: And that's always big, and that's that's when you know

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Speaker 1: you've got something truly special. You know, we're working on

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Speaker 1: being you know, the best unit we can be, and

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Speaker 1: that's all we gotta do is go out and put

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Speaker 1: the work in each and every day. And the coach

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Speaker 1: was asked about you guys after practice today, the new

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Speaker 1: offensive lineman. He said, the thing that stands out is

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Speaker 1: how much you all love it. Love the grind, love ball. Absolutely.

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Speaker 1: One thing about coach Frank Um. If you're a guy Todd,

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Speaker 1: you know, love ball, and you can run, you belong here,

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Speaker 1: and you're tough, you're physical. There's the type of guys

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Speaker 1: you look for, smart guys as well. So all those things,

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Speaker 1: every guy in that room has it. You know, you

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Speaker 1: just got to continue to pull it out of each

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Speaker 1: other and continue to grind each and every day. And

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Speaker 1: a lot of professions. Change is good. You feel refreshed.

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Speaker 1: Do you feel that way? I feel like, you know,

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Speaker 1: this is a revamp in my career. I'm being able

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Speaker 1: to come here and being, you know, one of the

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Speaker 1: older guys in the room, being a vet, being around

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Speaker 1: and just knowing you know, what he expects out of

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Speaker 1: the guys. And I mean for me, it was like

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Speaker 1: I was already raised in that because I had Frame

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Speaker 1: my first three years, so I was brought up the

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Speaker 1: right way. And now it's just like getting back to it.

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Speaker 1: So I couldn't be more happier, or it can be

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Speaker 1: more excited. Man, It's like as a happy as I've

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Speaker 1: been in the Wall group. To hear you describe it,

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Speaker 1: it seems so obvious that this was the right place

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Speaker 1: for you in your mind, the perfect fit. You know.

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Speaker 1: It's a difference when it was good fits and perfect fits.

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Speaker 1: It was a perfect fit. Hollins turns twenty nine in

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Speaker 1: July and is signed for the next three years. That's

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Speaker 1: going to do it for this episode of The Bengals

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