WEBVTT - Drive Time: Tight Ends and Linebackers Dolphins Draft Preview with Ryan Roberts and Ryan Fowler 0:00:00.200 --> 0:00:04.800 Do on the move, going deep speedways, Peas do Peas 0:00:05.760 --> 0:00:10.400 From the Baptist Health Studios inside the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:10.960 --> 0:00:14.640 This is Drivetime with Travis Wingfield. 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.440 He's my hands in the playoffs. 0:00:26.320 --> 0:00:30.120 What is up, Dolph fans, and welcome to the Draft 0:00:30.120 --> 0:00:33.040 Time Podcast. I am your host, Travis wing Photo. On 0:00:33.080 --> 0:00:36.839 today's episode, the last of the positional previews for the 0:00:36.960 --> 0:00:41.400 twenty twenty four NFL Draft, Ryan Roberts and Ryan Fowler 0:00:41.479 --> 0:00:44.599 to Ryan's two positions, joining us to take us through 0:00:44.640 --> 0:00:47.880 the tight ends and linebackers. Here for our final edition 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:51.320 of Draft positional Previews from the Baptist Health Studios inside 0:00:51.360 --> 0:00:52.839 the Baptist Health Training Complex. 0:00:52.880 --> 0:00:53.440 This is. 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:57.360 The Draft Time Podcast. 0:00:57.440 --> 0:00:58.320 Bye daff Is. 0:00:58.520 --> 0:01:00.600 First, let's get. 0:01:00.520 --> 0:01:03.920 To my first guest today, Ryan Roberts. Joined today by 0:01:03.960 --> 0:01:05.920 a man who wears many many hats, but I feel 0:01:05.920 --> 0:01:08.679 like the best way to introduce you to him is 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:11.760 by his Twitter handle at Rise and Draft From Rise 0:01:11.800 --> 0:01:15.240 and Draft Scouting and the NFL Prospects Podcast, Ryan Roberts, Ryan, 0:01:15.560 --> 0:01:16.319 what is up? 0:01:16.480 --> 0:01:16.720 Man? 0:01:18.120 --> 0:01:20.520 I now much draft? It's not much man, We're I mean, 0:01:20.520 --> 0:01:22.240 what do we nine days away from the draft or 0:01:22.280 --> 0:01:24.360 something like that. When we're recording, so it's a fun 0:01:24.360 --> 0:01:25.920 time of the year, man, all the rumor mail and 0:01:25.959 --> 0:01:28.160 everyone freaking out, and just kind of get to sit 0:01:28.240 --> 0:01:30.399 back and kind of decipher the landscape a little bit. 0:01:30.600 --> 0:01:32.280 Yeah again, and see how the sausage just made behind 0:01:32.280 --> 0:01:34.080 the scenes a little bit. We record this podcast well 0:01:34.080 --> 0:01:35.840 ahead of when it comes out. The draft is actually 0:01:35.920 --> 0:01:38.880 this week when you hear the podcast. But today Peter 0:01:39.000 --> 0:01:40.119 Schrager's mock draft came out. 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:40.679 That's bat host. 0:01:40.680 --> 0:01:41.760 You know, I should have told you that ahead of 0:01:41.760 --> 0:01:43.760 the podcast, but not a big deal the fans know. 0:01:44.160 --> 0:01:47.760 But Peter Schrager's podcast mock Draft drop today and that 0:01:47.800 --> 0:01:49.160 was pretty interesting to get a look at that because 0:01:49.200 --> 0:01:51.120 he is usually pretty accurate with that stuff because he 0:01:51.120 --> 0:01:52.960 doesn't really he goes off what he hears, not what 0:01:53.320 --> 0:01:53.640 he thinks. 0:01:53.680 --> 0:01:54.560 Right, So good stuff there. 0:01:54.600 --> 0:01:56.920 But we have Ryan on today to talk about this 0:01:57.040 --> 0:01:59.040 linebacker class, and before you do that, we have to 0:01:59.040 --> 0:02:01.200 get to the kind of the snapshot of the room 0:02:01.240 --> 0:02:03.400 as it is in Miami right now, and it's it's 0:02:03.480 --> 0:02:07.080 kind of undergone a remake. Here gone is longtime veteran 0:02:07.160 --> 0:02:10.000 Jerome Baker, I mean, twenty eighteen, doesn't something like that 0:02:10.040 --> 0:02:11.679 long ago, but it's a long time in football years. 0:02:11.720 --> 0:02:14.079 That's when he got drafted and now he's in Seattle. 0:02:14.200 --> 0:02:16.800 And in from Seattle is Jordan Brooks, who I just 0:02:16.919 --> 0:02:18.440 his tape has been some of my favorite to watch 0:02:18.480 --> 0:02:21.120 the entire offseason. You also get Anthony Walker junior to 0:02:21.200 --> 0:02:23.440 a room that already had David Long and Duke Riley. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:24.400 And Duke played a. 0:02:24.320 --> 0:02:26.200 Lot on defense last year but mostly has been a 0:02:26.200 --> 0:02:28.920 special team's ace in his career. So before we assess 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.160 the class, let's assess the room here. What do you 0:02:31.160 --> 0:02:34.640 think of this Dolphins really over two years entirely remade 0:02:34.639 --> 0:02:35.359 linebacker room. 0:02:35.440 --> 0:02:38.400 Ryan, I mean, it's been a I mean, it feels 0:02:38.480 --> 0:02:40.000 like forever ago now that we had to watch the 0:02:40.080 --> 0:02:42.200 Landon Roberts and those types of kind of work in 0:02:42.200 --> 0:02:44.800 the middle right, and it was obviously a very hit 0:02:44.919 --> 0:02:47.200 or miss group, you know, a couple of years ago specifically, 0:02:47.240 --> 0:02:49.560 but I really liked the pulse of the room honestly, 0:02:49.600 --> 0:02:51.880 you know, I mean it's getting at Jordan Brooks because 0:02:51.880 --> 0:02:53.560 I mean I was just thinking back to Jordan Brooks 0:02:53.560 --> 0:02:54.919 when he came out of Texas Tech, and he. 0:02:54.880 --> 0:02:56.680 Was such a such a. 0:02:56.600 --> 0:02:59.480 Weird prospect at the time, right because Texas Tech held 0:02:59.520 --> 0:03:01.640 kind of used kind of him in a very niche role, 0:03:01.800 --> 0:03:04.720 and then he comes to Seattle and they utilize kind 0:03:04.760 --> 0:03:06.720 of the diverse skill set that he has. You know, 0:03:06.760 --> 0:03:08.400 he has ranged from the middle. He's a guy that 0:03:08.400 --> 0:03:11.200 can be an attack style downhill player. He kind of 0:03:11.240 --> 0:03:13.200 has that body type where he can play, you know, 0:03:13.240 --> 0:03:15.680 true inside linebacker. He can play, you know, coming up 0:03:15.720 --> 0:03:17.600 on the edge at times if you need him to, 0:03:17.680 --> 0:03:20.359 and like some underfronts, like he's very versatile weapon. I think, 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.040 going along with a guy that's a bit undersized and 0:03:23.120 --> 0:03:25.880 David Long obviously, but then you also have Anthony Walker 0:03:25.919 --> 0:03:27.959 and you mentioned Duke Riley that are you know, that 0:03:28.480 --> 0:03:30.800 depth of this linebacker room I think is the biggest 0:03:30.840 --> 0:03:32.639 difference that we saw from a couple of years ago 0:03:32.840 --> 0:03:35.240 in quality depth more than anything. Right, Like, this room 0:03:35.240 --> 0:03:37.240 I think is really you said it yourself, it's been 0:03:37.320 --> 0:03:39.480 remade the last couple of years and under Anthony Weaver. 0:03:39.560 --> 0:03:41.640 I'm really interested to see how the middle of this 0:03:41.720 --> 0:03:44.440 defense really functions because it's it's a position that definitely 0:03:44.480 --> 0:03:46.120 needed an upgrade the last couple of years. 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:48.080 Yeah, it's been a common theme in these these draft 0:03:48.120 --> 0:03:50.240 preview podcasts have done where it's like, let's talk about 0:03:50.240 --> 0:03:53.320 Anthonyvers defense, but we don't really know what to expect. 0:03:53.320 --> 0:03:55.720 There's there's ideas and more souls of like little evidence 0:03:55.720 --> 0:03:57.280 you have along the way, but you don't truly know 0:03:57.280 --> 0:03:58.520 what it's going to look like until he gets a 0:03:58.560 --> 0:04:00.800 year or two under his belt. Call on the Defense, 0:04:00.840 --> 0:04:03.440 and you mentioned something there about the undersized nature of 0:04:03.480 --> 0:04:03.760 the rum. 0:04:04.080 --> 0:04:05.200 I've been wanting to ask. 0:04:05.480 --> 0:04:07.400 I like to ask all my guests, you know, kind 0:04:07.440 --> 0:04:09.680 of their process behind scouting, how things have changed, just 0:04:09.720 --> 0:04:11.840 the landscape of the industry. And that's one of the 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.680 biggest ones to me is this changing of the guard. 0:04:13.720 --> 0:04:15.280 You mentioned the land the Roberts a two hundred and 0:04:15.320 --> 0:04:18.440 fifty five pound thumper, right, you know, Vontes Burfick. Those 0:04:18.760 --> 0:04:21.279 days are gone, man. Now it's two hundred and thirty pounds. 0:04:21.320 --> 0:04:23.560 Is kind of your average linebacker. And I remember those 0:04:23.600 --> 0:04:25.800 two hundred and sixty pound guys, even Donta high towers 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:27.680 a big dude in the middle there. I'm curious what 0:04:27.720 --> 0:04:30.480 you think of the value of the small backer. 0:04:30.240 --> 0:04:31.239 This changing of the guard. 0:04:31.240 --> 0:04:33.760 But also it makes me wonder the follow up question 0:04:33.800 --> 0:04:35.960 to that, is there like a reckoning coming in the 0:04:36.080 --> 0:04:38.480 NFL where someone's going to just load up a thirteen 0:04:38.520 --> 0:04:41.919 personnel offense, maybe twenty three personnel offense and just say, Okay, 0:04:42.000 --> 0:04:43.239 put your two hundred and thirty. 0:04:43.040 --> 0:04:44.200 Pound guys out there. That's cute. 0:04:44.240 --> 0:04:45.960 We're gonna go ahead and play bully ballock. Do you 0:04:46.120 --> 0:04:48.200 do you see that happening, and just kind of tell 0:04:48.200 --> 0:04:50.880 me about the evolution of this position and what it could. 0:04:50.680 --> 0:04:51.760 Mean for the future of the NFL. 0:04:52.440 --> 0:04:54.000 I mean, I'm sure that's the change up that's coming 0:04:54.040 --> 0:04:56.120 a little bit soon, right, I mean, there's it. I 0:04:56.160 --> 0:04:58.560 feel like it's a very cyclical game, right. You know, 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:01.800 we went from a very run heavy approach some years 0:05:01.839 --> 0:05:03.960 ago and it's turned into obviously a passing league, and 0:05:04.160 --> 0:05:05.560 I feel like we're seeing a little bit of a 0:05:05.600 --> 0:05:07.800 researcher to the run game, specifically last year. 0:05:07.880 --> 0:05:08.000 Right. 0:05:08.040 --> 0:05:10.000 So I'm sure that they were going to come to 0:05:09.760 --> 0:05:12.360 the situation where we are going to see a little 0:05:12.400 --> 0:05:14.960 bit more of the heavy personnel offensively to take advantage 0:05:15.000 --> 0:05:19.480 of the size that the size, the size, you know, 0:05:19.600 --> 0:05:23.040 the the advantage that you have pertinence to the size 0:05:23.040 --> 0:05:25.080 on the second level that teams are putting out there now. 0:05:25.120 --> 0:05:26.640 So I'm sure that it's going to change a little 0:05:26.680 --> 0:05:28.839 bit at time, you know, within the next few years, 0:05:28.880 --> 0:05:32.120 within some time. I would say that for me, I 0:05:32.279 --> 0:05:34.120 used to be a big stickler when I first started 0:05:34.120 --> 0:05:37.039 scouting of the body types at different positions, right, So 0:05:37.080 --> 0:05:39.359 you would always think about Mike, Will Sam, you know, 0:05:39.400 --> 0:05:41.120 what did their body types look like? You know, Sam, 0:05:41.120 --> 0:05:42.920 obviously you want a little bit more size guys that 0:05:42.960 --> 0:05:44.600 can come up on the line of scrimmage set an 0:05:44.680 --> 0:05:46.920 edge middle linebacker. You're talking about those two hundred and 0:05:46.920 --> 0:05:48.960 fifty five pound thumpers, which used to be the additional 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.520 sense and then it used to be more of the sleek, 0:05:51.640 --> 0:05:53.880 lightly built backers that would work in pursuit a ton, 0:05:53.960 --> 0:05:56.239 you know, as the will linebacker. Well, it's kind of changed, 0:05:56.360 --> 0:05:58.120 you know, over the last couple of years. The archetype 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:02.000 is now fast expel sideline, the sideline on the inside 0:06:02.000 --> 0:06:04.320 at both Mike and Will. So I think there's still 0:06:04.360 --> 0:06:07.200 a requisite amount of you need to be able to 0:06:07.279 --> 0:06:09.080 fill an inside gap, and you need to be able 0:06:09.160 --> 0:06:10.960 to have gap integrity, and you need to be smart, 0:06:10.960 --> 0:06:12.280 and you need to be able to decide quickly. But 0:06:12.320 --> 0:06:14.800 I think there's still a requisite amount especially the mic position, 0:06:15.200 --> 0:06:17.560 but overall it's definitely changed. I was because I'm a 0:06:17.560 --> 0:06:19.279 purist when it comes to film. You know, I'm not 0:06:19.320 --> 0:06:22.120 a huge analytics guy. I use analytics mostly to just 0:06:22.200 --> 0:06:24.600 kind of verify what my I see. But I had 0:06:24.600 --> 0:06:27.200 talked to an analytics heavy guy like two years ago, 0:06:27.240 --> 0:06:30.080 and he had kind of showed me the changing of 0:06:30.080 --> 0:06:32.240 the linebacker position over the last couple of years. And 0:06:32.279 --> 0:06:34.640 it was a comparison of like Pro Bowls or All Pros. 0:06:34.640 --> 0:06:36.720 I forget what it was, but it had showed that 0:06:36.960 --> 0:06:39.080 the linebacker position is getting smaller. I mean, and I 0:06:39.160 --> 0:06:41.280 think you knew it by watching the game over the 0:06:41.360 --> 0:06:43.560 last few years, but just kind of seeing the data 0:06:43.560 --> 0:06:45.039 in front of you a little bit, it is it 0:06:45.080 --> 0:06:46.599 is pretty eye opening, you know what I mean, It 0:06:46.640 --> 0:06:49.520 really is. So I think for now it has changed 0:06:49.560 --> 0:06:52.799 as far as I think that the inside linebacker position 0:06:52.839 --> 0:06:56.360 has become a little bit more interchangeable. You need mics 0:06:56.440 --> 0:06:58.960 now that when you're gonna get out leverage, when there's 0:06:58.960 --> 0:07:00.719 gonna be a trade or a mote, you need guys 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.560 that can work in pursuit. They're just not a b 0:07:02.720 --> 0:07:05.240 gap to be gap players anymore. They get the gap 0:07:05.279 --> 0:07:06.919 you know, see gap the sea up. They are guys 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.239 that you need to play off the tackle then you 0:07:09.240 --> 0:07:11.240 do need to range the sideline. So I think more 0:07:11.280 --> 0:07:14.760 than anything, the I think the line between Mike linebacker 0:07:14.800 --> 0:07:17.160 will linebacker has gotten blurred a whole lot more, and 0:07:17.200 --> 0:07:21.480 the same linebacker is kind of gone obsolete thing. Yeah, 0:07:21.480 --> 0:07:23.840 I mean like that we're seeing now, you know, teams 0:07:23.880 --> 0:07:25.840 play so much heavy in the sub package. It's like 0:07:25.880 --> 0:07:28.680 the same linebercker doesn't really have a big pertinence in 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:31.120 NFL defenses anymore. You know, it's a very part time 0:07:31.160 --> 0:07:33.120 player at this point. So I think it's just a 0:07:33.160 --> 0:07:35.000 line that's been blurred a little bit and the position 0:07:35.040 --> 0:07:37.320 has obviously gotten smaller last few years. 0:07:37.560 --> 0:07:40.000 Yeah, it kind of seems like that new line of demarcation, 0:07:40.040 --> 0:07:42.320 if you will, is like between edge and linebacker, Like 0:07:42.360 --> 0:07:45.200 you're either edge or your linebacker that plays Bowl spots there. 0:07:45.360 --> 0:07:47.120 And when you mentioned like the days of all the 0:07:47.560 --> 0:07:49.920 Sam will Mike like it brings you back to like 0:07:49.920 --> 0:07:51.960 my early Madden days to age myself a little bit, 0:07:52.000 --> 0:07:53.600 and like my first thought for a Dolphins fan out 0:07:53.640 --> 0:07:56.040 there was like CoA Mesi, the former second round pick 0:07:56.040 --> 0:07:57.520 out of Utah who was like a two hundred and 0:07:57.560 --> 0:08:00.800 sixty five pounds banger off that sam backer spot versus 0:08:00.800 --> 0:08:03.200 like what we had Jerome Baker Isbrookie year. He was 0:08:03.200 --> 0:08:05.880 a Will linebacker who was like forty pounds ler than that. 0:08:05.920 --> 0:08:08.000 So that's a kind of I guess, a way to 0:08:08.040 --> 0:08:09.960 put all of that into a Dolphins lens for you 0:08:10.000 --> 0:08:11.720 fans out there. And with that in mind, let's go 0:08:11.760 --> 0:08:13.880 ahead and pivot now to this year's draft class, because 0:08:14.160 --> 0:08:16.520 and Ryan, some of these groups required me to phrase 0:08:16.560 --> 0:08:18.960 these questions this way. I've done it with the safety class. 0:08:19.000 --> 0:08:20.960 I believe that the tight end class might fall the 0:08:20.960 --> 0:08:23.560 same way. Maybe the interior offensive line. I don't think 0:08:23.600 --> 0:08:26.800 we'll see a linebacker go off the board before twenty one. 0:08:27.080 --> 0:08:29.480 I imagine you feel the same way if you do. Though, 0:08:29.880 --> 0:08:32.480 who do you have as the top off ball linebacker 0:08:32.520 --> 0:08:35.000 and where do you think his range begins in that 0:08:35.080 --> 0:08:37.040 kind of first round second round window? 0:08:38.000 --> 0:08:39.920 Yeah, I don't think it's a first round window on 0:08:39.960 --> 0:08:42.280 the second level today, because I really think that this 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:45.520 twenty twenty four class is one that has some high 0:08:45.640 --> 0:08:48.040 upside players, right, Like, there's a lot of athletic traits 0:08:48.080 --> 0:08:50.439 that gets super excited about between like seven to eight 0:08:50.480 --> 0:08:52.640 of these guys, I would even say, but it's just 0:08:52.720 --> 0:08:54.680 that the floor you know that these guys are bringing 0:08:54.679 --> 0:08:57.640 to the table. Each one of them has something that 0:08:57.920 --> 0:09:00.160 kind of makes you have pause for a second. Know 0:09:00.200 --> 0:09:03.280 whether it is a Peyton Wilson with the injury background 0:09:03.360 --> 0:09:05.360 or a couple guys that haven't played a ton of football, 0:09:05.440 --> 0:09:07.480 or the eye discipline on the second level, you know 0:09:07.559 --> 0:09:11.800 the impact that they have in traditional coverage and on 0:09:11.840 --> 0:09:13.560 those reps. So I think that there was a little 0:09:13.600 --> 0:09:15.559 bit of just kind of some things that are just 0:09:15.600 --> 0:09:17.440 kind of holding some guys back as far as being 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.680 premiere Day one players. But for me right now, like 0:09:20.880 --> 0:09:23.040 I have Junior Colson as my top guy out of Michigan, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.800 I'm in love with the guy's film. I really am. 0:09:25.800 --> 0:09:29.800 I mean quietly was the leading tackler for a Michigan 0:09:29.840 --> 0:09:32.240 defense that was stellar the last two years. Obviously won 0:09:32.240 --> 0:09:34.680 a national championship this year, but he is that guy 0:09:34.720 --> 0:09:36.880 Travis for me, Like you want to about blurring lines. 0:09:37.240 --> 0:09:39.719 This kid, if we were still playing the traditional four 0:09:39.760 --> 0:09:42.440 to three base all the time, he could play Mike, 0:09:42.760 --> 0:09:45.080 he can play Will, he could play Sam. He's got 0:09:45.160 --> 0:09:47.199 enough length to play Sam, enough physicality, he's got the 0:09:47.240 --> 0:09:49.400 MIC traits, and then he's got the pursuit speed as well. 0:09:49.440 --> 0:09:51.400 I know he ended up not testing at the Combine, 0:09:51.400 --> 0:09:54.559 but he was a guy that coming out of high 0:09:54.600 --> 0:09:56.640 school was a verified like four or five something in 0:09:56.679 --> 0:09:58.840 the forties. So, like, this is a really athletic kid, 0:09:59.280 --> 0:10:02.120 very explosive, been tight areas. I think for me, his 0:10:02.280 --> 0:10:05.319 range starts probably early second rounds, Like, I wouldn't be 0:10:05.320 --> 0:10:07.280 shocked if he goes thirty three. It wouldn't be shocked 0:10:07.280 --> 0:10:08.960 to be. I think he ends up being a top 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:10.920 forty five player in this class though, because I think 0:10:10.920 --> 0:10:13.360 that he really brings those traits where when we're talking 0:10:13.360 --> 0:10:16.160 about lines getting blurred on the second level doesn't really 0:10:16.440 --> 0:10:19.560 it doesn't really matter how you label this kid, right Like, 0:10:19.559 --> 0:10:20.720 you can call him a Mic, you can call him 0:10:20.720 --> 0:10:22.360 a William, you can call him a Sam even if 0:10:22.360 --> 0:10:24.480 you want at times, but either way, this kid is 0:10:24.480 --> 0:10:27.800 a dynamic SICCT level defender. I think that athleticism, that physicality, 0:10:28.160 --> 0:10:30.720 and the experience playing at a place like Michigan that 0:10:30.760 --> 0:10:33.280 has had a lot of great defensive minds controlling that 0:10:33.320 --> 0:10:35.400 defense last couple of years. I think all those things 0:10:35.520 --> 0:10:38.880 lead to Junior Colson being a pretty good plus starter 0:10:38.960 --> 0:10:40.160 pretty early on in his career. 0:10:40.600 --> 0:10:42.199 He's the kind of guy that I agree with you. 0:10:42.240 --> 0:10:43.720 I love his tape, I love his game. I just 0:10:43.760 --> 0:10:45.280 don't think he's in the Dolphins cards. 0:10:45.320 --> 0:10:45.440 Well. 0:10:45.480 --> 0:10:47.840 I mean, I've been saying this every podcast, Like the 0:10:47.880 --> 0:10:49.800 minute you say something for sure, you're going to be 0:10:49.800 --> 0:10:51.319 wrong about it. That's how the draft goes. So I 0:10:51.360 --> 0:10:55.040 will never ever one percent rubber stamp something. But given 0:10:55.080 --> 0:10:56.800 David Long's production a year ago, and if they think 0:10:56.840 --> 0:10:58.800 of him in the building, given Jordan Brooks in a 0:10:58.920 --> 0:11:02.080 multi year contract, Anthony Walker, I just don't see it 0:11:02.080 --> 0:11:03.959 happening in that first forty picks. And it sounds like 0:11:04.000 --> 0:11:07.000 that's where you think Junior Colson goes. So I imagine 0:11:07.040 --> 0:11:09.000 that's not in the cards. I almost felt like it 0:11:09.080 --> 0:11:11.320 picked fifty five, it's almost not in the cards as well. 0:11:11.360 --> 0:11:14.079 But again, never say for certain. So whether it's at 0:11:14.080 --> 0:11:15.839 that fifty fifth pick, tell me about a couple of 0:11:15.840 --> 0:11:17.880 guys that you think could be in play there. But 0:11:17.960 --> 0:11:19.840 also if you can, just for the sake of the 0:11:19.840 --> 0:11:21.640 fact that, like like I'm talking about, I just don't 0:11:21.679 --> 0:11:24.199 think it happens. But we'll see beyond that, if the 0:11:24.240 --> 0:11:25.960 Dolphins were a trade back because they don't have a 0:11:25.960 --> 0:11:28.199 pick between fifty five and one fifty eight, if they 0:11:28.240 --> 0:11:29.680 move back and get an extra pick, give me some 0:11:29.720 --> 0:11:31.679 guys in that kind of third fourth round range like 0:11:31.720 --> 0:11:33.600 there in addition to who could be there at fifty 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:34.319 five if you don't. 0:11:34.120 --> 0:11:37.600 Mind, Yeah, absolutely, I think for fifty five there's a 0:11:37.640 --> 0:11:39.440 couple names that I think will at least be in 0:11:39.520 --> 0:11:42.280 play for a team, you know, if they were linebacker centric, 0:11:42.280 --> 0:11:44.840 good team that would need that position. One's Peyton Wilson 0:11:44.840 --> 0:11:49.120 out of Vanci State, who full transparency. He is probably 0:11:49.160 --> 0:11:51.520 my favorite linebacker in this class, just strictly what he 0:11:51.520 --> 0:11:54.480 puts on the fields. He's got a very unique body type. Tall, 0:11:55.200 --> 0:11:57.760 little bit lanky right now, but he's continue to put 0:11:57.800 --> 0:11:59.079 on good weight, but he's got a little bit of 0:11:59.120 --> 0:12:01.760 shorter arm length, which is kind of an interesting body. 0:12:01.800 --> 0:12:04.000 Just overall. He reminds me a lot of like for 0:12:04.040 --> 0:12:06.520 a just player comp though, he reminds me of Kiko Alonso, 0:12:06.600 --> 0:12:09.800 And I say, like the good Kiko Alonso, right though, 0:12:09.840 --> 0:12:11.760 because I think we remember the bad Kiko the last 0:12:11.800 --> 0:12:13.800 couple of years of his career. But like early Kiko 0:12:13.920 --> 0:12:16.000 before the injuries started taking its toll. He was a 0:12:16.000 --> 0:12:18.560 good player man, and he again had that length and 0:12:18.559 --> 0:12:20.640 that ability in the passing game that made him a 0:12:20.640 --> 0:12:22.720 really valuable commodity. I mean, this kid's an even more 0:12:22.760 --> 0:12:25.080 gift to that athlete than what Kiko was coming out 0:12:25.080 --> 0:12:26.959 of Oregon. I mean, Peyton ran four four to three 0:12:27.000 --> 0:12:29.480 at the combine at six foot four plus at two 0:12:29.559 --> 0:12:33.160 hundred and thirty seven pounds. He is a very impressive 0:12:33.280 --> 0:12:35.960 athlete on the second level. Could play sideline, the sideline, 0:12:36.040 --> 0:12:38.480 He has a really good range on the second level 0:12:38.480 --> 0:12:40.440 if we're talking about a guy that's just gonna work inside 0:12:40.440 --> 0:12:42.560 out to the sideline, like he can track some guys 0:12:42.600 --> 0:12:45.280 down working to the edge. I really like Peyton a lot. 0:12:45.600 --> 0:12:48.960 The biggest question about Peyton and why even fifty five 0:12:49.080 --> 0:12:51.120 might be a little bit early for him, is the 0:12:51.120 --> 0:12:52.880 injuries that we have to kind of get through, right. 0:12:52.920 --> 0:12:55.240 I mean, he's had multiple ACL tears in the past. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.199 He's had multiple season ending shoulder injuries in the past 0:12:58.200 --> 0:13:01.400 as well. A linebacker would badge is a pretty scary 0:13:01.440 --> 0:13:03.440 thing even in the modern day, you know, if how 0:13:03.520 --> 0:13:06.320 teams play defense. So but I really like him a lot. 0:13:06.400 --> 0:13:08.520 I think that his film is tremendous. I think that 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.719 he has upside. It's just going to be about the medicals. 0:13:11.840 --> 0:13:13.120 What's the shelf life of him? 0:13:13.160 --> 0:13:13.280 Right? 0:13:13.320 --> 0:13:15.720 Can he potentially get to a second contract? Those questions 0:13:15.760 --> 0:13:17.400 I don't have the answer to because we don't have 0:13:17.440 --> 0:13:20.240 the full medical breakdown of just what his shoulders look like, 0:13:20.320 --> 0:13:22.680 you know, what the lower body looks like. But on film, 0:13:22.840 --> 0:13:24.760 fantastic player and the other guy that I think the 0:13:24.840 --> 0:13:26.959 NFL is a little bit higher on than a lot 0:13:26.960 --> 0:13:28.760 of the media and even myself, to be honest, right, 0:13:28.920 --> 0:13:31.360 this is a little bit more predictive nature. Cedric Gray 0:13:31.400 --> 0:13:33.400 from North Carolina is a guy that I know a 0:13:33.440 --> 0:13:35.360 lot of people in around the league, like a lot. 0:13:35.600 --> 0:13:37.400 He kind of fit's a modern mold that I was 0:13:37.400 --> 0:13:39.640 talking about, right, Like, he's a pretty densely built kid, 0:13:39.840 --> 0:13:43.160 but he's athletic, really good film in coverage. On the 0:13:43.200 --> 0:13:46.480 second level, I think his eyes are pretty dang inconsistent, 0:13:46.600 --> 0:13:48.840 right Like, I don't think he consistently sees the game 0:13:48.880 --> 0:13:50.960 at a high level and just at a high speed. 0:13:51.360 --> 0:13:53.760 But if we're just on about physical traits and athleticism, 0:13:53.880 --> 0:13:55.480 Cedric Gray has a lot to bring to the table. 0:13:55.640 --> 0:13:57.480 A couple of later round guys that I really like 0:13:57.520 --> 0:13:59.240 a lot, and there's actually three guys. I don't know 0:13:59.280 --> 0:14:01.400 if I can ramble through these as quick as I can, 0:14:01.480 --> 0:14:03.720 but just to give you guys as many names as possible. 0:14:04.000 --> 0:14:06.920 My favorite watch, probably other than Peyton Wilson, A guy 0:14:06.960 --> 0:14:08.720 that I was not expecting to be a guy that 0:14:08.760 --> 0:14:11.480 I love was Tyrese Knight out of U Tip, who 0:14:11.520 --> 0:14:14.200 I think third to fifth round range is kind of 0:14:14.200 --> 0:14:15.600 what I'm hearing right now. I think he can go 0:14:15.600 --> 0:14:17.960 as early as late day two, probably more of an 0:14:18.000 --> 0:14:21.160 early day three football player. This kid is the modern 0:14:21.200 --> 0:14:23.200 linebacker that you were talking about. He saw it off 0:14:23.360 --> 0:14:25.360 just a hair over six foot. He's about two hundred 0:14:25.840 --> 0:14:28.040 two hundred thirty two undred thirty five pounds. But the 0:14:28.120 --> 0:14:31.680 kid can run very explosive short area, and I think 0:14:31.720 --> 0:14:33.640 that is he's a little bit of a guesser on 0:14:33.680 --> 0:14:35.920 the second level at times, which gives you pause. But 0:14:36.200 --> 0:14:38.080 I do think he sees the game well. I just 0:14:38.080 --> 0:14:40.800 think it's about just being consistently with his landmarks and 0:14:40.840 --> 0:14:43.640 his eyes in the run game. So Tyree Knight's a 0:14:43.640 --> 0:14:45.760 really interesting player. The U Tip that was at the 0:14:45.760 --> 0:14:48.560 Senior Bowl, Jordan McGee out of Temple. This is like 0:14:48.600 --> 0:14:51.080 a day three dart throw man. I don't like this 0:14:51.160 --> 0:14:53.080 kid's vision all the time at all. I think he's 0:14:53.080 --> 0:14:56.320 guesses a whole lot on the second level, but length 0:14:56.560 --> 0:15:00.000 athleticism can run for days at worst. Getting a special 0:15:00.080 --> 0:15:01.440 teamer here, right, like a guy that I think could 0:15:01.440 --> 0:15:03.840 be a core teamer, which has value. And then the 0:15:03.880 --> 0:15:06.120 last guy that I have covered very closely the last 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.600 couple of years but is the most maddening player probably 0:15:08.640 --> 0:15:11.160 in this draft is Marris Loi Foul out of Notre Dame. 0:15:11.240 --> 0:15:14.840 Now he is talking about the blurred line again. Six 0:15:14.920 --> 0:15:18.320 foot two and a half, two hundred and thirty seven 0:15:18.360 --> 0:15:21.080 pounds two hundred and thirty nine pounds. He's been kind 0:15:21.080 --> 0:15:24.120 of fluctuated through the draft process, thirty four inch arms 0:15:24.640 --> 0:15:26.480 Notre Dame. They asked him to play on the edge 0:15:26.480 --> 0:15:30.000 a lot, and he was a subpackaged rusher, so inconsistent 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:33.880 with what he's seeing. But the athleticism and the highs 0:15:34.160 --> 0:15:35.640 or about as high as anybody in this class. So 0:15:35.640 --> 0:15:37.480 I think if you get him in around five, round six, 0:15:37.560 --> 0:15:39.880 somewhere in that ballpark, you kind of stash him on 0:15:39.920 --> 0:15:42.480 the end of the roster. Year two, year three, you 0:15:42.560 --> 0:15:44.280 might start to get a little something out of him. 0:15:44.480 --> 0:15:46.720 Year four, he could be a starting level type of player. 0:15:46.840 --> 0:15:48.480 But I think at worse again, if we're talking about 0:15:48.480 --> 0:15:51.480 six to two plus or a little UNDERD two forty 0:15:51.520 --> 0:15:53.880 with thirty four in charms that can run, that guy's 0:15:53.880 --> 0:15:55.360