1 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:33,440 Speaker 1: Earning their stripes is back on your podcast feed, the 2 00:00:33,440 --> 00:00:35,479 Speaker 1: one and only pod show as far as I know, 3 00:00:35,880 --> 00:00:40,240 Speaker 1: focusing specifically on the Miami Marlins farm system, the existing 4 00:00:40,280 --> 00:00:42,720 Speaker 1: prospects they already have and that we look forward to 5 00:00:42,720 --> 00:00:45,840 Speaker 1: seeing the major sometime soon, but also the ones potentially 6 00:00:45,920 --> 00:00:48,960 Speaker 1: being added in the very near future through the draft 7 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:52,519 Speaker 1: and international free agency. We tape a look at all 8 00:00:52,600 --> 00:00:53,040 Speaker 1: that stuff. 9 00:00:53,080 --> 00:00:53,320 Speaker 2: Here. 10 00:00:53,479 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: It's Eli Sussman speaking right now. You're managing editor of 11 00:00:56,440 --> 00:00:59,800 Speaker 1: Fits Stripes. We're in the midst of Underdog Week across 12 00:00:59,840 --> 00:01:03,000 Speaker 1: the Espanation Network, and we're gonna have a little wrinkle 13 00:01:03,080 --> 00:01:05,919 Speaker 1: of this episode that applies to that as well, looking 14 00:01:05,959 --> 00:01:10,440 Speaker 1: at players that hopefully will overachieve and become significant parts 15 00:01:10,480 --> 00:01:13,720 Speaker 1: of the team moving forward despite a lack of traditional 16 00:01:13,760 --> 00:01:16,520 Speaker 1: prospect pedigree. We're going to ease into that conversation by 17 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:19,880 Speaker 1: first talking about some premium talent both coming through the 18 00:01:19,959 --> 00:01:22,920 Speaker 1: draft and currently in the system as it is, and 19 00:01:23,360 --> 00:01:27,000 Speaker 1: joining me in this episode just a two man conversation 20 00:01:27,120 --> 00:01:30,120 Speaker 1: this time is Spencer Morris. How are you doing, Spencer? 21 00:01:30,680 --> 00:01:32,039 Speaker 2: Hello, Hello and doing well? 22 00:01:34,080 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: And some technical difficulties for our pal Ethan Vedowski and 23 00:01:38,560 --> 00:01:41,520 Speaker 1: some work conflict with Ian Smith, But we're all going 24 00:01:41,560 --> 00:01:44,319 Speaker 1: to get together soon, I imagine leading up to the draft, 25 00:01:44,440 --> 00:01:46,800 Speaker 1: which is just a few weeks away, and certainly reacting 26 00:01:46,800 --> 00:01:54,040 Speaker 1: to the draft after it happens. Much different structure than 27 00:01:54,080 --> 00:01:57,520 Speaker 1: we all envisions coming into it thanks to COVID nineteen 28 00:01:57,640 --> 00:02:01,280 Speaker 1: and restricting of the type of financial flexibility that these 29 00:02:01,320 --> 00:02:03,600 Speaker 1: teams usually have this time of year, only a five 30 00:02:03,680 --> 00:02:07,920 Speaker 1: round draft, which puts tremendous pressure on teams to really 31 00:02:08,000 --> 00:02:12,480 Speaker 1: nail every single individual pick that they get of, especially 32 00:02:12,480 --> 00:02:14,040 Speaker 1: at the very top of the draft where they're actually 33 00:02:14,080 --> 00:02:16,680 Speaker 1: investing some real money in it, the Marlins. We're all 34 00:02:16,720 --> 00:02:18,680 Speaker 1: looking forward to this draft very much, of course, because 35 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,160 Speaker 1: the Marlins hold the number three overall pick. You don't 36 00:02:22,200 --> 00:02:25,280 Speaker 1: know when, if ever in the foreseeable future, they'll be 37 00:02:25,320 --> 00:02:28,960 Speaker 1: picking that high again, and it's a great crop to 38 00:02:29,040 --> 00:02:33,800 Speaker 1: look forward to, especially at the collegiate level. But Spencer, 39 00:02:33,840 --> 00:02:35,240 Speaker 1: the reason why it's great to have you on this 40 00:02:35,320 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: time is because earlier this week a great breakdown of 41 00:02:38,560 --> 00:02:43,400 Speaker 1: prep outfielder Zach Veen, who is in depending on your opinion, 42 00:02:43,440 --> 00:02:47,720 Speaker 1: could be the best overall prep player available in this class, 43 00:02:47,720 --> 00:02:51,320 Speaker 1: certainly one that has an extremely high ceiling. So I 44 00:02:51,360 --> 00:02:54,239 Speaker 1: wanted to just throw it over to you in terms 45 00:02:54,280 --> 00:02:57,640 Speaker 1: of just a simple summary of what you saw in 46 00:02:57,800 --> 00:03:01,359 Speaker 1: Vein and what your recommendation would be to the Marlins 47 00:03:01,360 --> 00:03:04,400 Speaker 1: about whether he's a serious candidate for them to consider 48 00:03:04,440 --> 00:03:05,080 Speaker 1: at number three. 49 00:03:05,960 --> 00:03:09,440 Speaker 2: Yeah, I mean I started looking at Veen kind of 50 00:03:09,520 --> 00:03:12,800 Speaker 2: last summer, right after the twenty nineteen draft, when I 51 00:03:12,840 --> 00:03:15,720 Speaker 2: was sort of doing my first pass on the twenty 52 00:03:15,760 --> 00:03:18,800 Speaker 2: twenty class. I tend to start with prep hitters usually 53 00:03:19,760 --> 00:03:24,200 Speaker 2: when I first get into a new class of talent, 54 00:03:25,120 --> 00:03:28,720 Speaker 2: and Van at that point, you know, he was kind 55 00:03:28,720 --> 00:03:34,240 Speaker 2: of ranked within the first tier of prep prospects, but 56 00:03:34,520 --> 00:03:38,040 Speaker 2: definitely some guys were, you know, consistently being ranked ahead 57 00:03:38,080 --> 00:03:40,920 Speaker 2: of him. I would say that, you know, Pete crow 58 00:03:41,040 --> 00:03:49,200 Speaker 2: Armstrong was probably the most common number one prep outfielder 59 00:03:49,240 --> 00:03:54,240 Speaker 2: at that time. But right away when I started looking 60 00:03:54,240 --> 00:03:58,240 Speaker 2: at Van, I was just really impressed with how advanced 61 00:03:58,240 --> 00:04:03,280 Speaker 2: he looked as a hitter in the just from a 62 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:07,240 Speaker 2: mechanical standpoint, from an approach standpoint, I think he gets 63 00:04:07,320 --> 00:04:10,280 Speaker 2: really high marks in both of those areas, And on 64 00:04:10,360 --> 00:04:14,480 Speaker 2: top of that, the tools are really close the top 65 00:04:14,520 --> 00:04:18,560 Speaker 2: of the charts as well. He's not the biggest guy yet, 66 00:04:18,880 --> 00:04:22,039 Speaker 2: but he will be in time. He's six', four there's 67 00:04:22,080 --> 00:04:25,560 Speaker 2: a lot of room for him to grow into his body. 68 00:04:25,600 --> 00:04:28,360 Speaker 2: More AND i think once you see that, happen you're 69 00:04:28,400 --> 00:04:31,279 Speaker 2: talking about a guy who could have plus hit and power, 70 00:04:31,400 --> 00:04:34,480 Speaker 2: tools has a chance to stay in center. FIELD i 71 00:04:34,480 --> 00:04:37,120 Speaker 2: would probably give him about a twenty five percent chance 72 00:04:37,160 --> 00:04:41,120 Speaker 2: of doing. That but even if he ends up a right, 73 00:04:41,200 --> 00:04:46,599 Speaker 2: fielder WHICH i think would be his kind of long 74 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:48,839 Speaker 2: term home if center doesn't work, out rather than left, 75 00:04:48,880 --> 00:04:51,839 Speaker 2: FIELD i think you're you're looking at a guy who's 76 00:04:51,920 --> 00:04:53,520 Speaker 2: potentially going to be hitting in the heart of the, 77 00:04:53,640 --> 00:04:57,360 Speaker 2: order providing some defensive. Value he's pretty good on the 78 00:04:57,400 --> 00:05:01,560 Speaker 2: base pads as. Well you've got some pretty big. Tools 79 00:05:01,760 --> 00:05:05,600 Speaker 2: he gets high high marks on his makeup is work 80 00:05:05,640 --> 00:05:10,040 Speaker 2: ethic from Everybody i've read on the, subject AND i, 81 00:05:10,080 --> 00:05:12,520 Speaker 2: think you, know the sky is really the limit for. 82 00:05:12,640 --> 00:05:15,440 Speaker 2: Him you're talking about a guy who HAS i THINK 83 00:05:15,600 --> 00:05:19,880 Speaker 2: mvp type upside if it all comes. Together obviously you're 84 00:05:19,920 --> 00:05:23,560 Speaker 2: talking about really the one hundred percent ale outcome for 85 00:05:23,640 --> 00:05:26,560 Speaker 2: anybody when you're saying they could play at that kind 86 00:05:26,600 --> 00:05:29,720 Speaker 2: of level at that stage in their. Career BUT i 87 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:32,640 Speaker 2: he's probably the guy THAT i would pick at number 88 00:05:32,680 --> 00:05:35,159 Speaker 2: three if you KNOW i were in, charge and there's 89 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,760 Speaker 2: plenty of reasons That i'm, not but he checks pretty 90 00:05:40,800 --> 00:05:44,960 Speaker 2: much all the boxes for. ME i, think you, know 91 00:05:45,080 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 2: it's more like it's much more likely that The marlins 92 00:05:47,480 --> 00:05:49,719 Speaker 2: will go a different. DIRECTION i would be really surprised 93 00:05:49,760 --> 00:05:54,480 Speaker 2: if they ended up taking. HIM i don't think it's 94 00:05:54,800 --> 00:05:57,720 Speaker 2: like a blunder to pass on. It certainly there's some 95 00:05:57,880 --> 00:06:02,520 Speaker 2: other really good players in this CLASS i think overall 96 00:06:02,560 --> 00:06:05,240 Speaker 2: a little bit stronger than last year's crop at the. 97 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:09,680 Speaker 2: Top last year you Had Adlei retchman at the top 98 00:06:09,680 --> 00:06:11,680 Speaker 2: who would have obviously gone number one this year as. 99 00:06:11,720 --> 00:06:17,720 Speaker 2: Well BUT i Think Austin martin And Spencer hetoricalson might 100 00:06:17,720 --> 00:06:22,520 Speaker 2: be better talents than anybody in the twenty nineteen class 101 00:06:22,680 --> 00:06:27,200 Speaker 2: was After adley and The marlins won't get a chance at. 102 00:06:27,279 --> 00:06:31,800 Speaker 2: Them but after that you also you Have Asa, lacey 103 00:06:31,880 --> 00:06:33,960 Speaker 2: who kind of looks like the odds on, favorite who 104 00:06:34,040 --> 00:06:37,159 Speaker 2: was just absolutely bonkers For TEXAS a AND m before 105 00:06:37,240 --> 00:06:42,159 Speaker 2: the season got shut down. EARLY i think you know 106 00:06:42,200 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 2: you're looking at number two starter upside with him and 107 00:06:45,760 --> 00:06:50,400 Speaker 2: the reason THAT i am not like quite as enthusiastic 108 00:06:50,680 --> 00:06:57,040 Speaker 2: About lacey as compared to some other people would Be 109 00:06:57,800 --> 00:07:02,000 Speaker 2: it's just THAT i obviously love the. Stuff it's impossible 110 00:07:02,040 --> 00:07:04,040 Speaker 2: not to love the stuff when you're talking about a 111 00:07:04,160 --> 00:07:06,800 Speaker 2: left hander who's consistently in the mid nineties with this, 112 00:07:06,880 --> 00:07:11,000 Speaker 2: fastball and it's like a very deceptive. Fastball he creates 113 00:07:11,480 --> 00:07:15,800 Speaker 2: an angle kind of with his stuff THAT'S i think 114 00:07:16,160 --> 00:07:21,160 Speaker 2: makes it even harder on. Hitters and then in what 115 00:07:21,320 --> 00:07:23,640 Speaker 2: he was able to, show he only got four starts 116 00:07:23,720 --> 00:07:26,480 Speaker 2: this year before the season was shut, down but in 117 00:07:26,520 --> 00:07:30,400 Speaker 2: those four, starts he was showing probably the best slider 118 00:07:30,840 --> 00:07:34,040 Speaker 2: at the amateur level in the, country with the exception 119 00:07:34,120 --> 00:07:37,720 Speaker 2: of Maybe Max. Meyers it's another pitcher is probably going 120 00:07:37,760 --> 00:07:42,680 Speaker 2: to go in the top ten in the upcoming. Draft but, 121 00:07:43,080 --> 00:07:46,160 Speaker 2: nonetheless you, know if you want to Argue meyer a bit, 122 00:07:46,200 --> 00:07:50,000 Speaker 2: AHEAD i might do that. Myself but, regardless you're talking 123 00:07:50,040 --> 00:07:53,440 Speaker 2: about like a seventy grade sixty five to seventy great, 124 00:07:53,520 --> 00:07:55,720 Speaker 2: slider close to the top of the. Scale it's a 125 00:07:55,720 --> 00:07:58,440 Speaker 2: plus fastball as. WELL i think the change up is above. 126 00:07:58,480 --> 00:08:02,640 Speaker 2: Average the only real CONCERN i have is THAT i 127 00:08:02,680 --> 00:08:06,280 Speaker 2: think the top half of his delivery is a little bit. 128 00:08:06,320 --> 00:08:11,680 Speaker 2: Busy his walk numbers have been a little bit, shaky 129 00:08:11,720 --> 00:08:13,680 Speaker 2: in the past he walked about four and a half 130 00:08:13,760 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 2: batters per nine as a. Sophomore he was doing a 131 00:08:18,120 --> 00:08:22,600 Speaker 2: little bit better than that in the starts he got this, 132 00:08:22,680 --> 00:08:25,000 Speaker 2: Year but for, me that's still a little bit of a. 133 00:08:25,040 --> 00:08:28,280 Speaker 2: CONCERN i think that the command has to improve from 134 00:08:28,320 --> 00:08:30,600 Speaker 2: where it is now for him to be that kind 135 00:08:30,600 --> 00:08:34,800 Speaker 2: of top of the rotation. ARM i, think depending where 136 00:08:34,800 --> 00:08:37,440 Speaker 2: it ends, up you could have anywhere from kind of 137 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:42,760 Speaker 2: a fall little mid rotation starter to maybe a back end. 138 00:08:42,840 --> 00:08:45,360 Speaker 2: Reliever if he really doesn't improve much in that area at, 139 00:08:45,400 --> 00:08:48,679 Speaker 2: ALL i think that most likely he ends up kind 140 00:08:48,679 --> 00:08:53,000 Speaker 2: of in that number three starter. Range SO i still 141 00:08:53,040 --> 00:08:56,800 Speaker 2: obviously like him quite a. Bit but LIKE i, SAID 142 00:08:56,880 --> 00:08:58,800 Speaker 2: i mean With, VEEN i think you're talking about a 143 00:08:58,840 --> 00:09:01,600 Speaker 2: guy who could hit thirty your lineup for six seven. 144 00:09:01,679 --> 00:09:05,880 Speaker 2: Years so that's really hard for me to pass, on 145 00:09:06,559 --> 00:09:08,720 Speaker 2: regardless of who else is on the. 146 00:09:08,720 --> 00:09:12,920 Speaker 1: Board, yeah a million factors to consider, HERE a lot 147 00:09:12,960 --> 00:09:15,920 Speaker 1: to like About. LACEY i mean our co Host Ian. 148 00:09:16,000 --> 00:09:19,839 Speaker 1: Smith he's taken part in numerous mock. Drafts he had 149 00:09:19,880 --> 00:09:22,560 Speaker 1: one that he published On prospects three sixty, five he 150 00:09:22,559 --> 00:09:25,679 Speaker 1: had another one that he did For Prospects, live and 151 00:09:25,720 --> 00:09:28,160 Speaker 1: then just recorded one earlier this week with locked On, 152 00:09:28,280 --> 00:09:31,080 Speaker 1: marlins AND i think across the board he seems to 153 00:09:31,080 --> 00:09:33,280 Speaker 1: think That Asa lacey is going to be the fit 154 00:09:33,480 --> 00:09:37,120 Speaker 1: at number three with The. MARLINS i guess the most 155 00:09:37,480 --> 00:09:39,400 Speaker 1: outside from all the things you, said and of course 156 00:09:39,400 --> 00:09:44,080 Speaker 1: what he accomplished in, college there is a, NATURAL i 157 00:09:44,080 --> 00:09:47,320 Speaker 1: guess by the whole general, public there's a natural lean 158 00:09:47,440 --> 00:09:50,960 Speaker 1: towards him with The, marlins just because The marlins at 159 00:09:50,960 --> 00:09:53,360 Speaker 1: this point that they've graduated a lot of their exciting 160 00:09:53,400 --> 00:09:55,840 Speaker 1: pictures to the. Majors they've traded away a couple, others 161 00:09:55,840 --> 00:09:59,120 Speaker 1: and of course they've gone really heavy on acquiring outfielders 162 00:09:59,120 --> 00:10:00,920 Speaker 1: the past couple of. Years the last couple of first 163 00:10:00,960 --> 00:10:04,000 Speaker 1: round draft picks they had twenty nineteen WAS Jj, bloedet 164 00:10:04,120 --> 00:10:07,160 Speaker 1: twenty eighteen Was Connor. Scott the pick After Blu day 165 00:10:07,240 --> 00:10:10,760 Speaker 1: last year in the supplemental rounds that Was Cameron. Meisner 166 00:10:11,000 --> 00:10:14,400 Speaker 1: they traded For Jesus. Sanchez so they've really stocked up 167 00:10:14,440 --> 00:10:18,760 Speaker 1: on outfielders and a lot of ones that have different 168 00:10:18,800 --> 00:10:21,920 Speaker 1: strengths and weaknesses that there's been some concern that they 169 00:10:21,960 --> 00:10:24,719 Speaker 1: have a surplus of. Outfielders but that being, SAID i 170 00:10:24,760 --> 00:10:28,920 Speaker 1: think we stand on the same point here that positional 171 00:10:29,040 --> 00:10:33,320 Speaker 1: scarcity really shouldn't be a huge factor in the decision you. 172 00:10:33,360 --> 00:10:35,760 Speaker 1: Make if you're a, team you shouldn't worry necessarily about 173 00:10:36,480 --> 00:10:39,800 Speaker 1: what other prospects you have relatives to certain positions because 174 00:10:39,800 --> 00:10:43,000 Speaker 1: of there's a pretty significant bust rate and everybody's on 175 00:10:43,000 --> 00:10:45,800 Speaker 1: a slightly different, timeline and you can't really account for 176 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:49,680 Speaker 1: injuries or. WHATNOT i think really the only CRITICISM i 177 00:10:49,720 --> 00:10:52,960 Speaker 1: saw of your article from people were those pointing out 178 00:10:53,080 --> 00:10:56,080 Speaker 1: this kind of the overload of outfielders that they currently 179 00:10:56,080 --> 00:10:58,439 Speaker 1: have because of the ones they've invested in the draft 180 00:10:58,480 --> 00:11:01,480 Speaker 1: and the ones that they've. Developed but in your interest 181 00:11:01,679 --> 00:11:05,320 Speaker 1: In zach, mean you really don't think that that kind 182 00:11:05,360 --> 00:11:08,120 Speaker 1: of competition quote unquote is an, issue, right that they 183 00:11:08,120 --> 00:11:11,599 Speaker 1: should just focus on the best talent, Regardless. 184 00:11:12,120 --> 00:11:13,960 Speaker 2: Right, YEAH i don't think that the top of the 185 00:11:14,040 --> 00:11:17,360 Speaker 2: draft is ever the time to really be looking at 186 00:11:17,840 --> 00:11:22,960 Speaker 2: organizational need is a consideration at. All like you, SAID i, 187 00:11:22,960 --> 00:11:25,719 Speaker 2: mean these draft picks are rare opportunities you want them 188 00:11:25,720 --> 00:11:30,080 Speaker 2: to be, anyway and you, really for, ME i think 189 00:11:30,280 --> 00:11:32,840 Speaker 2: you have to go with the pure best player available 190 00:11:33,120 --> 00:11:38,320 Speaker 2: strategy in THE mlb. Draft, OBVIOUSLY i think people who 191 00:11:38,360 --> 00:11:42,880 Speaker 2: maybe you, know not to try to throw shade at, 192 00:11:42,880 --> 00:11:46,000 Speaker 2: anybody but people who maybe don't follow THE mlb draft 193 00:11:46,080 --> 00:11:50,000 Speaker 2: like super, CLOSELY i think they're accustomed to seeing what teams, 194 00:11:50,040 --> 00:11:55,040 Speaker 2: do and like THE NBA nfl, draft where need like immediate, 195 00:11:55,120 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 2: need often is a large consideration because obviously the difference 196 00:12:01,840 --> 00:12:05,600 Speaker 2: being players in THE nba AND nfl are able to 197 00:12:05,640 --> 00:12:08,320 Speaker 2: have an immediate impact in the year that they're, drafted 198 00:12:08,559 --> 00:12:11,600 Speaker 2: but in, baseball where you have at a minimum about 199 00:12:11,600 --> 00:12:15,520 Speaker 2: a two year runway for any of these draft picks 200 00:12:15,600 --> 00:12:20,000 Speaker 2: before they're making a major league, impact if you try 201 00:12:20,000 --> 00:12:23,320 Speaker 2: to draft for, need you're trying, to you, know predict 202 00:12:23,320 --> 00:12:29,319 Speaker 2: the future, Essentially and to, me LIKE i OBVIOUSLY i 203 00:12:29,360 --> 00:12:32,280 Speaker 2: am high on quite a few outfielders in The marlins 204 00:12:32,320 --> 00:12:36,120 Speaker 2: system right. NOW i think they probably have at least 205 00:12:36,160 --> 00:12:40,120 Speaker 2: three like long term quality BIG lea outfielders in the system, 206 00:12:40,160 --> 00:12:44,679 Speaker 2: Currently SO i would certainly agree that outfield is not 207 00:12:45,040 --> 00:12:49,280 Speaker 2: an organizational. Need but when you're talking about the third 208 00:12:49,280 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 2: overall pick in the, draft or even the hundred third 209 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,320 Speaker 2: overall pick in the, draft with success rates being what 210 00:12:56,360 --> 00:13:01,200 Speaker 2: they are WITH mlb, prospects you really just have to 211 00:13:01,200 --> 00:13:03,800 Speaker 2: take the player that you have the highest confidence, IN i, 212 00:13:03,840 --> 00:13:09,400 Speaker 2: think in those in the early. Stages, obviously this year 213 00:13:09,480 --> 00:13:12,000 Speaker 2: the draft really only has an early, stage SO i 214 00:13:12,000 --> 00:13:15,080 Speaker 2: would say that kind of holds true through all five 215 00:13:15,160 --> 00:13:20,360 Speaker 2: rounds this. Year you just have to take the guy 216 00:13:20,400 --> 00:13:23,280 Speaker 2: that you have the highest degree of confidence is going 217 00:13:23,360 --> 00:13:25,360 Speaker 2: to be an impact player for you and for me 218 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:29,680 Speaker 2: at number, three assuming, Toortal send And martin are off the, 219 00:13:29,679 --> 00:13:31,200 Speaker 2: board that would be. 220 00:13:31,040 --> 00:13:37,280 Speaker 1: Being AND i think ultimately what makes this year so 221 00:13:37,360 --> 00:13:40,199 Speaker 1: much different than other years, is of course the pandemic 222 00:13:40,320 --> 00:13:43,120 Speaker 1: that we're in the middle of and the very real 223 00:13:43,160 --> 00:13:46,960 Speaker 1: consequences that has on the entire business of. Baseball that's 224 00:13:46,960 --> 00:13:49,800 Speaker 1: frankly WHAT i imagine being the difference in who they 225 00:13:49,800 --> 00:13:53,840 Speaker 1: select is how The marlins feel about themselves on a financial. 226 00:13:53,880 --> 00:13:56,800 Speaker 1: Standpoint of, course last year AND i think each of 227 00:13:56,840 --> 00:13:59,240 Speaker 1: the last two years they've spent above their bonus. Pool 228 00:13:59,280 --> 00:14:02,120 Speaker 1: they've spent just enough in order to sign everybody without 229 00:14:02,160 --> 00:14:06,000 Speaker 1: actually incurring any additional penalties based on the bonuses they handed. 230 00:14:06,040 --> 00:14:09,760 Speaker 1: Out this, year the bonuses are stagnant from last, year and, 231 00:14:09,960 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: obviously with all the reduced, rounds the overall bonus pool 232 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:15,120 Speaker 1: that they're spending on this draft class would only be 233 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:18,079 Speaker 1: somewhere in the like thirteen million dollar, range and it's 234 00:14:18,120 --> 00:14:21,240 Speaker 1: several million dollars less than last. Year so either, way 235 00:14:21,240 --> 00:14:24,120 Speaker 1: the draft isn't going to be as expensive as the previous. 236 00:14:24,160 --> 00:14:27,000 Speaker 1: Year but considering where The marlins are as an organization 237 00:14:27,040 --> 00:14:29,800 Speaker 1: and how hard hit they're going to be by the 238 00:14:29,840 --> 00:14:32,920 Speaker 1: reduction of the regular season and the lost, revenue WHAT 239 00:14:33,040 --> 00:14:37,280 Speaker 1: i just wonder is the difference Between lacey or one 240 00:14:37,320 --> 00:14:39,320 Speaker 1: of the other the best available college player on the 241 00:14:39,360 --> 00:14:41,000 Speaker 1: board and someone like, me and is just going to 242 00:14:41,000 --> 00:14:44,560 Speaker 1: be their tolerance for spending on an amateur, player because 243 00:14:45,640 --> 00:14:47,200 Speaker 1: of course the last couple of years they've had that 244 00:14:47,240 --> 00:14:51,520 Speaker 1: commitment to. Spending but under these different, circumstances if this 245 00:14:51,560 --> 00:14:54,680 Speaker 1: is for whatever reason that they want to spread out 246 00:14:54,840 --> 00:14:58,160 Speaker 1: that limited bonus pool among each of their first each 247 00:14:58,160 --> 00:15:00,800 Speaker 1: of their picks in the five, rounds or or IF i, 248 00:15:00,840 --> 00:15:03,880 Speaker 1: mean as strange as this, seems if they feel them 249 00:15:03,920 --> 00:15:06,360 Speaker 1: they're in such a dire situation that they don't even 250 00:15:06,360 --> 00:15:09,480 Speaker 1: spend their full bonus pool on the available picks this 251 00:15:09,560 --> 00:15:11,320 Speaker 1: year and they just want to save money that way 252 00:15:11,600 --> 00:15:14,720 Speaker 1: to make sure it's going towards guys with more immediate 253 00:15:14,880 --> 00:15:17,720 Speaker 1: major league. Impact that one of the main, attractions of, 254 00:15:17,720 --> 00:15:20,840 Speaker 1: course if you're a prep player and you're committed to a, 255 00:15:20,880 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: school is to play at a four year college is 256 00:15:25,760 --> 00:15:28,120 Speaker 1: one if you're trying to improve your draft, stock and 257 00:15:28,160 --> 00:15:31,080 Speaker 1: as someone Like, bean who's already an early first round, 258 00:15:31,160 --> 00:15:33,960 Speaker 1: pick regardless even if The marlins pass on, him he 259 00:15:34,000 --> 00:15:35,760 Speaker 1: won't be on the board for. Long he's going to 260 00:15:35,760 --> 00:15:38,600 Speaker 1: go early and you would expect him to sign. Definitely 261 00:15:38,640 --> 00:15:41,080 Speaker 1: but even some of the allure of playing in college 262 00:15:41,080 --> 00:15:43,720 Speaker 1: baseball might not be the same looking forward as it 263 00:15:43,800 --> 00:15:46,800 Speaker 1: used to, be with concerns about whether fans are actually 264 00:15:46,800 --> 00:15:48,360 Speaker 1: going to be attending these, games that it's going to 265 00:15:48,440 --> 00:15:52,000 Speaker 1: be the same type of, atmosphere and whether it has 266 00:15:52,120 --> 00:15:54,840 Speaker 1: all the same benefits of college life that colleges used 267 00:15:54,840 --> 00:15:58,120 Speaker 1: to have before we had concerns about getting too close 268 00:15:58,160 --> 00:16:02,359 Speaker 1: to one another and all. That, SO i, mean that's 269 00:16:02,400 --> 00:16:04,400 Speaker 1: a factor THAT i honestly think it's going to be 270 00:16:04,440 --> 00:16:08,440 Speaker 1: the big difference herees just whether The marlins are feel 271 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:13,160 Speaker 1: really financially insecure or whether they have focus on getting 272 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,280 Speaker 1: the most established talent. POSSIBLE i think that's a way 273 00:16:16,320 --> 00:16:19,160 Speaker 1: that they Can they would back into a pick Like 274 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: Zach bean is if they sense that he, would he 275 00:16:22,080 --> 00:16:24,600 Speaker 1: would sign for significantly less than one of these college. 276 00:16:24,600 --> 00:16:29,640 Speaker 2: PLAYERS i, MEAN i wouldn't rule out a scenario in 277 00:16:29,720 --> 00:16:32,880 Speaker 2: which teams are not using the entirety of their bonus 278 00:16:32,960 --> 00:16:36,120 Speaker 2: pools in the. DRAFT i would like to think that 279 00:16:36,120 --> 00:16:37,840 Speaker 2: that won't, happen But i'm not going to put it 280 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:42,840 Speaker 2: PAST mlb ownership, to you, know try to cut costs 281 00:16:42,840 --> 00:16:46,920 Speaker 2: anywhere that. Can they've proven that they're very effective in that. 282 00:16:47,200 --> 00:16:49,720 Speaker 2: Regard BUT i think that if we get into that 283 00:16:49,800 --> 00:16:52,840 Speaker 2: kind of, SCENARIO i think a prospect Like Zach bean 284 00:16:52,920 --> 00:16:55,800 Speaker 2: probably would just go To, florida which is where he's. 285 00:16:55,800 --> 00:16:58,640 Speaker 2: COMMITTED i think there's definitely a lot of truth to 286 00:16:58,680 --> 00:17:03,400 Speaker 2: what you're, saying where college ball is a lot. Different 287 00:17:05,960 --> 00:17:09,360 Speaker 2: in our current, situation we don't really know if it's 288 00:17:09,400 --> 00:17:14,080 Speaker 2: even going to be feasible or not. Yet obviously there's 289 00:17:14,119 --> 00:17:17,080 Speaker 2: scheduled to give it a, shot but who really knows 290 00:17:17,119 --> 00:17:21,159 Speaker 2: how that'll even. Go BUT i, think assuming that you, 291 00:17:21,200 --> 00:17:27,159 Speaker 2: know we are back playing baseball at all levels in 292 00:17:27,200 --> 00:17:32,560 Speaker 2: twenty twenty, one NORMALLY i think a, high high level 293 00:17:32,640 --> 00:17:37,720 Speaker 2: prospect like, that if he's getting squeezed in bonus, negotiations 294 00:17:37,760 --> 00:17:40,119 Speaker 2: the team's only going to offer him like three million 295 00:17:40,240 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 2: or something as a top, five top ten. Pick THEN 296 00:17:45,040 --> 00:17:47,080 Speaker 2: i think when you have the opportunity to go to 297 00:17:47,720 --> 00:17:53,400 Speaker 2: a high quality program Like university Of florida that consistently 298 00:17:53,440 --> 00:17:58,960 Speaker 2: produces HIGH mlb draft picks develops, PLAYERS i think that 299 00:17:59,240 --> 00:18:02,760 Speaker 2: he would probably take that. Opportunity he would have an 300 00:18:02,760 --> 00:18:06,440 Speaker 2: immediate role on the team from the moment he set 301 00:18:06,480 --> 00:18:09,720 Speaker 2: foot on, campus AND i think he would have a 302 00:18:09,720 --> 00:18:12,400 Speaker 2: pretty good chance of maintaining his draft stock and then 303 00:18:12,400 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 2: potentially doubling his. 304 00:18:13,920 --> 00:18:17,000 Speaker 1: Money ah, yeah, Yeah I'll safi, there because that's that's 305 00:18:17,000 --> 00:18:19,399 Speaker 1: the one THING i was, overlooking because even though he 306 00:18:19,440 --> 00:18:21,200 Speaker 1: really doesn't have much room to rise in the draft, 307 00:18:21,359 --> 00:18:24,080 Speaker 1: order if he's assuming, that you, know three years from, 308 00:18:24,119 --> 00:18:26,840 Speaker 1: now the world is closer to quote unquote, normal that 309 00:18:26,920 --> 00:18:29,240 Speaker 1: the game is in a healthier place, financially he goes 310 00:18:29,280 --> 00:18:32,600 Speaker 1: in the same draft. Spot but you're, right it's millions 311 00:18:32,600 --> 00:18:35,720 Speaker 1: of dollars difference, anyway just because, yeah the only circumstances 312 00:18:36,280 --> 00:18:38,360 Speaker 1: things squeezed right. Now, Yeah, no that's a good. 313 00:18:38,359 --> 00:18:44,000 Speaker 2: POINT i think Between veen And, lace he Probably ven 314 00:18:44,400 --> 00:18:47,840 Speaker 2: would be a little bit, cheaper BUT i DON'T i 315 00:18:47,880 --> 00:18:51,280 Speaker 2: don't see him being like a guy who take a 316 00:18:51,320 --> 00:18:55,760 Speaker 2: bonus that's like way way. UNDERSLIDE i think you know 317 00:18:55,800 --> 00:19:00,040 Speaker 2: he would be underslide of the third, pick BUT i 318 00:19:00,080 --> 00:19:03,639 Speaker 2: mean he's projected to go most likely somewhere between picks 319 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:07,119 Speaker 2: six and, ten so he's projected to make quite a 320 00:19:07,160 --> 00:19:10,600 Speaker 2: bit of. Money AND i don't think that you, know 321 00:19:10,680 --> 00:19:13,840 Speaker 2: he's just going to be enthused to get to pro 322 00:19:13,960 --> 00:19:17,199 Speaker 2: ball and kind of be willing to take whatever a 323 00:19:17,240 --> 00:19:22,639 Speaker 2: team offers if they're playing hardball with. Him, Lacey, LACEY 324 00:19:22,760 --> 00:19:25,760 Speaker 2: i think honestly has like there is some risk for 325 00:19:25,840 --> 00:19:28,879 Speaker 2: him going back To TEXAS a AND m if the 326 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,200 Speaker 2: walks tick back up all of a. Sudden he's probably 327 00:19:31,200 --> 00:19:33,640 Speaker 2: not the number one college pitcher in the class. Anymore 328 00:19:34,240 --> 00:19:38,080 Speaker 2: and that you, know the bonus for the third but 329 00:19:38,320 --> 00:19:41,159 Speaker 2: the third highest drafted college pitcher is a lot different 330 00:19:41,200 --> 00:19:43,960 Speaker 2: than for the number. One SO i think he's going 331 00:19:44,040 --> 00:19:47,560 Speaker 2: to be motivated to. Sign but you're still talking about 332 00:19:47,560 --> 00:19:51,520 Speaker 2: a guy who you know is projected by every single 333 00:19:51,560 --> 00:19:53,640 Speaker 2: ele that there is to be a top five, pick 334 00:19:53,720 --> 00:19:57,359 Speaker 2: top five talent in the in the. Class i'm sure 335 00:19:57,440 --> 00:20:01,520 Speaker 2: his demands are are not going to be small. EITHER 336 00:20:01,920 --> 00:20:04,000 Speaker 2: i think if you're really going to go for a 337 00:20:04,040 --> 00:20:07,160 Speaker 2: cost cutting, strategy and you want to find a guy 338 00:20:07,359 --> 00:20:13,640 Speaker 2: who would be willing to take a very significantly under slid, 339 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,360 Speaker 2: DEAL i think you have to get a little bit more. 340 00:20:15,400 --> 00:20:19,680 Speaker 2: Creative like there are definitely some NAMES i could throw 341 00:20:19,760 --> 00:20:23,399 Speaker 2: out if we want to get, crazy and like assume 342 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,119 Speaker 2: The marlins are only going to want to spend, say you, 343 00:20:26,160 --> 00:20:29,200 Speaker 2: know three and a half million dollars on pick number, 344 00:20:29,960 --> 00:20:35,000 Speaker 2: three THEN i mean there's certainly some guys who are 345 00:20:35,080 --> 00:20:38,439 Speaker 2: kind of in the later first round conversation WHO i 346 00:20:38,440 --> 00:20:42,159 Speaker 2: think are really, interesting and probably three will be the 347 00:20:42,160 --> 00:20:44,639 Speaker 2: only opportunity The marlins had to get them before they 348 00:20:44,720 --> 00:20:47,159 Speaker 2: hit the trade. Market BUT i would think if you 349 00:20:47,200 --> 00:20:49,639 Speaker 2: were going to try to cut, COSTS i would hope, 350 00:20:49,680 --> 00:20:52,480 Speaker 2: that like the future talent of your organization would be 351 00:20:52,560 --> 00:20:55,399 Speaker 2: one of the last things that you. Cut and for, 352 00:20:55,480 --> 00:20:57,440 Speaker 2: Now i'm going to operate into the assumption the teams 353 00:20:57,480 --> 00:21:00,280 Speaker 2: will spend the entirety of their five round on his. 354 00:21:00,400 --> 00:21:03,480 Speaker 2: Pool cutting the draft of five rounds, really at the 355 00:21:03,560 --> 00:21:05,320 Speaker 2: end of the day doesn't save all that much. Money 356 00:21:05,359 --> 00:21:08,760 Speaker 2: it's less than million dollars per team on average for 357 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:15,320 Speaker 2: around six through. Ten So i'm Not, Yeah i'm a 358 00:21:15,320 --> 00:21:20,840 Speaker 2: little skeptical of of that move on the, whole just 359 00:21:20,840 --> 00:21:23,680 Speaker 2: because a round six through ten really under an expensive 360 00:21:23,720 --> 00:21:25,840 Speaker 2: portion of the. Draft at that, point you're talking about 361 00:21:25,840 --> 00:21:32,440 Speaker 2: bonuses that are in the low six. Figures so it's 362 00:21:32,480 --> 00:21:37,200 Speaker 2: definitely gonna feel a little weird seeing players who were 363 00:21:37,240 --> 00:21:41,159 Speaker 2: normally like a midday two prospect just going undrafted this, 364 00:21:41,240 --> 00:21:43,679 Speaker 2: year and it's going to put those those guys in 365 00:21:43,760 --> 00:21:46,600 Speaker 2: kind of a difficult. Situation, yeah. 366 00:21:46,680 --> 00:21:49,439 Speaker 1: Weird weird is the, word not just the, draft but 367 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:52,600 Speaker 1: of course everything after the, draft with all the skepticism 368 00:21:52,640 --> 00:21:55,080 Speaker 1: about us even having a minor league, season and if 369 00:21:55,119 --> 00:21:57,639 Speaker 1: you're gonna even though rosters would be extended at the 370 00:21:57,640 --> 00:22:00,520 Speaker 1: major league, level that obviously won't be the type of 371 00:22:00,600 --> 00:22:02,320 Speaker 1: platform to show new draft. 372 00:22:02,359 --> 00:22:05,119 Speaker 2: Picks so those guys will be a lot of. 373 00:22:05,200 --> 00:22:07,520 Speaker 1: Uncertainty it's gonna be difficult to evaluate these guys even 374 00:22:07,560 --> 00:22:10,560 Speaker 1: after they go Into pro ball get associated with these new. 375 00:22:10,640 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: Organizations we're going to use that to transition to one 376 00:22:13,840 --> 00:22:16,320 Speaker 1: guy that would have been drafted under any. Circumstances that 377 00:22:16,440 --> 00:22:20,800 Speaker 1: was right Handed Nick knightder originally by The Seattle mariners 378 00:22:20,840 --> 00:22:22,720 Speaker 1: and then of course traded to The marlins two and 379 00:22:22,720 --> 00:22:24,919 Speaker 1: a half years ago in The Dee gordon. Trade he 380 00:22:24,960 --> 00:22:28,240 Speaker 1: was a former second round pick out of high school 381 00:22:28,520 --> 00:22:31,680 Speaker 1: and he got a pre substantial signing, bonus go off 382 00:22:31,680 --> 00:22:33,439 Speaker 1: to a decent start to his, career and then it 383 00:22:33,480 --> 00:22:35,840 Speaker 1: really took off after he got traded to The. Marlins 384 00:22:36,080 --> 00:22:38,840 Speaker 1: ended up being their twenty Eighteen Minor League pitcher of The, 385 00:22:38,880 --> 00:22:41,639 Speaker 1: year and things were looking pretty good for him entering 386 00:22:41,720 --> 00:22:45,919 Speaker 1: twenty nineteen until he suffered a meniscus injury and that delayed. 387 00:22:45,960 --> 00:22:48,159 Speaker 1: Him he got back on track in The Fall league 388 00:22:48,400 --> 00:22:51,359 Speaker 1: and then he had some encouraging outings in spring training as, 389 00:22:51,400 --> 00:22:55,760 Speaker 1: well and then of course this pandemic hits and really 390 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:58,440 Speaker 1: complicates his. Situation but still a guy, that if we 391 00:22:58,480 --> 00:23:02,080 Speaker 1: have a, season likely to see in the. Majors, earlier 392 00:23:02,119 --> 00:23:04,320 Speaker 1: as we're speaking recording this on A wednesday, night or 393 00:23:04,400 --> 00:23:07,600 Speaker 1: just a few hours, after he was interviewed on SEVEN Geft. 394 00:23:07,600 --> 00:23:11,399 Speaker 1: Live that's a show That marlin's Broadcasters Glenn gefner And 395 00:23:11,400 --> 00:23:14,040 Speaker 1: Paul severino co host and they had him for almost 396 00:23:14,040 --> 00:23:16,760 Speaker 1: an hour AND i really enjoyed listening to. Him he's 397 00:23:16,760 --> 00:23:20,960 Speaker 1: an articulate, guy very, passionate and also has pretty so 398 00:23:21,280 --> 00:23:24,880 Speaker 1: confidence about. Him and we'll get a little bit more 399 00:23:24,960 --> 00:23:28,760 Speaker 1: into his prospect profile in a. Moment BUT i wanted 400 00:23:28,760 --> 00:23:32,639 Speaker 1: to play one clip about his developing curveball because of 401 00:23:32,680 --> 00:23:35,199 Speaker 1: the one of the few issues that you, have one 402 00:23:35,240 --> 00:23:37,200 Speaker 1: of the few concerns you might have about him moving 403 00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:39,880 Speaker 1: forward is whether he has enough of a breaking ball 404 00:23:39,920 --> 00:23:42,520 Speaker 1: to get swings and missus at the highest. Level and 405 00:23:42,640 --> 00:23:45,399 Speaker 1: he tried to address one of those concerns on talking 406 00:23:45,400 --> 00:23:47,600 Speaker 1: about the progress that he's made with his curveball the 407 00:23:47,680 --> 00:23:49,639 Speaker 1: last couple of. Years so listen up to. 408 00:23:49,680 --> 00:23:53,040 Speaker 3: That the curveball is actually pretty. NEW i started throwing 409 00:23:53,080 --> 00:23:55,800 Speaker 3: it last. Year it would be a PITCH i would 410 00:23:55,880 --> 00:23:57,880 Speaker 3: drop IN i would say probably, three four or five 411 00:23:57,880 --> 00:24:00,959 Speaker 3: times a. Year and my pitch coach Was dave La. 412 00:24:01,000 --> 00:24:04,240 Speaker 3: Roach so he was known for the laalab where he 413 00:24:04,280 --> 00:24:05,960 Speaker 3: would just toss it in there And i'll never forget 414 00:24:05,960 --> 00:24:08,679 Speaker 3: he would get on the mound and just toss it 415 00:24:08,760 --> 00:24:11,679 Speaker 3: up there and hit a spot every single. Time And i'm, Like, 416 00:24:11,760 --> 00:24:13,320 Speaker 3: roach you just kind of showed me this. Thing you 417 00:24:13,400 --> 00:24:15,400 Speaker 3: have to show me how to throw. It and so 418 00:24:15,440 --> 00:24:18,760 Speaker 3: sure ENOUGH i started throwing this. CURVEBALL i implemented it 419 00:24:18,880 --> 00:24:21,639 Speaker 3: probably towards the end of twenty. Eighteen AND i was 420 00:24:21,680 --> 00:24:24,720 Speaker 3: throwing it sixty five to seventy miles an hour and 421 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:27,359 Speaker 3: it was very. Effective and so the next YEAR i 422 00:24:27,400 --> 00:24:30,359 Speaker 3: moved in AND i started throwing it more and more 423 00:24:30,480 --> 00:24:33,440 Speaker 3: And Jeremy, poweller pitching coach in Tripa, a he, Said, 424 00:24:33,440 --> 00:24:35,119 Speaker 3: hey sill that thing. Harder he's, LIKE i think you 425 00:24:35,119 --> 00:24:37,440 Speaker 3: could get some really good bite to. It and sure 426 00:24:37,520 --> 00:24:40,000 Speaker 3: enough kept throwing. It and then this year and spring, 427 00:24:40,040 --> 00:24:43,679 Speaker 3: training Mel stademeyer HE'S i, mean he's, like he's, like 428 00:24:43,720 --> 00:24:45,600 Speaker 3: you need to start landing that curveball and you need 429 00:24:45,640 --> 00:24:47,800 Speaker 3: to throw it with, aggression and it's just kind of 430 00:24:47,800 --> 00:24:50,840 Speaker 3: developed into a pitch WHERE i think it could be 431 00:24:50,880 --> 00:24:54,520 Speaker 3: a really big game changer on just me being able 432 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 3: to use my fastball up and my change it down 433 00:24:56,880 --> 00:24:59,400 Speaker 3: and it just kind of separates things a little bit. 434 00:24:59,440 --> 00:25:02,440 Speaker 1: More you agree with that self assessment of, Him, spencer 435 00:25:02,480 --> 00:25:06,720 Speaker 1: that he adds a, trustworthy consistent curveball to his fastball 436 00:25:06,800 --> 00:25:09,399 Speaker 1: change up in his impeccable command that he has that 437 00:25:09,680 --> 00:25:12,280 Speaker 1: it really it could raise his ceiling as a potential 438 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:16,119 Speaker 1: starting rotation fixture, Absolutely. 439 00:25:15,480 --> 00:25:18,840 Speaker 2: AND i MEAN i would say THAT i personally saw 440 00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,800 Speaker 2: him as a long term starting pitcher regardless of whether 441 00:25:23,160 --> 00:25:26,959 Speaker 2: the curve ball came along or. NOT i think his 442 00:25:27,080 --> 00:25:31,320 Speaker 2: fastball change up command are good enough that he would 443 00:25:31,359 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 2: have been able to get by really on those. Alone 444 00:25:34,040 --> 00:25:37,960 Speaker 2: so if that curveball is a consistent weapon for, him 445 00:25:38,960 --> 00:25:42,760 Speaker 2: that's a legit third. Offering he's able to generate more swinging. 446 00:25:42,800 --> 00:25:47,880 Speaker 2: STRIKES i think he's he could be potentially a guy 447 00:25:47,920 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 2: with am mid rotation, ceiling which is sort of what 448 00:25:50,119 --> 00:25:54,080 Speaker 2: he was seen as early on in his minor league. Career, 449 00:25:55,960 --> 00:25:59,200 Speaker 2: obviously he still doesn't throw especially, hard BUT i think 450 00:25:59,240 --> 00:26:02,800 Speaker 2: that when you see him pitching on a good, night 451 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:07,320 Speaker 2: he really does have impact command to change up as, 452 00:26:07,400 --> 00:26:10,359 Speaker 2: excellent and the fastball may not be, hard but it 453 00:26:10,440 --> 00:26:13,879 Speaker 2: has life and he's able to locate it so well 454 00:26:14,320 --> 00:26:16,480 Speaker 2: that it's an effective pitch for him even against doctor 455 00:26:16,520 --> 00:26:18,560 Speaker 2: level minor league. PITCHING i think it will be against 456 00:26:18,560 --> 00:26:19,720 Speaker 2: the major league pitching. Too. 457 00:26:21,480 --> 00:26:23,959 Speaker 1: YEAH i was curious WHEN i heard that SoundBite from 458 00:26:24,040 --> 00:26:26,720 Speaker 1: him that actually went back to spring. Training JUST i 459 00:26:26,720 --> 00:26:29,280 Speaker 1: looked at a game from about three months, ago which 460 00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,719 Speaker 1: was his first appearance on the spring that was, televised 461 00:26:31,760 --> 00:26:33,760 Speaker 1: and he pitched a couple innings in that and as 462 00:26:33,800 --> 00:26:36,240 Speaker 1: looking out for that, curveball AND i only SAW i 463 00:26:36,280 --> 00:26:39,600 Speaker 1: saw like maybe three of, them and one of them 464 00:26:40,040 --> 00:26:44,080 Speaker 1: was one of. Them he released it way too early 465 00:26:44,200 --> 00:26:46,679 Speaker 1: and it almost went over at the catcher's glove and 466 00:26:47,400 --> 00:26:50,359 Speaker 1: back to the. Backstop he threw another one that was 467 00:26:50,880 --> 00:26:52,959 Speaker 1: with two. STRIKES i was surprised to actually see him 468 00:26:52,960 --> 00:26:54,480 Speaker 1: throw it with two strikes and try to get a guy, 469 00:26:54,480 --> 00:26:56,320 Speaker 1: out but it kind of hung a little bit and 470 00:26:56,359 --> 00:26:58,239 Speaker 1: the hitter pulled it. Fell and then he threw a 471 00:26:58,280 --> 00:27:00,919 Speaker 1: third one that was like right down the, middle but 472 00:27:01,119 --> 00:27:04,040 Speaker 1: once again the hitter swung early and pulled it. Foul 473 00:27:04,080 --> 00:27:06,119 Speaker 1: so it wasn't like a big sample of. It and 474 00:27:06,160 --> 00:27:08,840 Speaker 1: then scrolling through some quick highlights of him from The 475 00:27:08,880 --> 00:27:11,160 Speaker 1: Fall league as, WELL i didn't really see him even 476 00:27:11,240 --> 00:27:13,399 Speaker 1: use it all that much in The Fall, league although 477 00:27:13,400 --> 00:27:15,840 Speaker 1: he was extraordinarily effective in The Fall league with whatever 478 00:27:15,880 --> 00:27:19,160 Speaker 1: he was doing down. There it's, yeah so that one 479 00:27:19,240 --> 00:27:22,439 Speaker 1: particular a lot to actually look at that pretty closely 480 00:27:22,520 --> 00:27:26,359 Speaker 1: to see how much he applies it to his. Game 481 00:27:26,480 --> 00:27:28,399 Speaker 1: it was interesting the timing that he mentioned that that 482 00:27:28,640 --> 00:27:31,600 Speaker 1: late in twenty, eighteen because of course he was the 483 00:27:31,640 --> 00:27:34,080 Speaker 1: minor league pitcher of The year At DOUBLE. A as 484 00:27:34,119 --> 00:27:38,840 Speaker 1: in how old was he aged twenty one, season essentially 485 00:27:38,880 --> 00:27:40,720 Speaker 1: saying that he wasn't really using that curve ball to 486 00:27:40,720 --> 00:27:42,840 Speaker 1: have that kind of success at DOUBLE. A so it's 487 00:27:42,840 --> 00:27:45,960 Speaker 1: interesting to see him continuing to make adjustments even though 488 00:27:46,160 --> 00:27:48,919 Speaker 1: he was doing well in the. Field last time that 489 00:27:48,960 --> 00:27:51,000 Speaker 1: we updated our prospect ranking a couple of months, ago 490 00:27:51,080 --> 00:27:53,440 Speaker 1: he WAS i think the number twelve guy in the, 491 00:27:53,480 --> 00:27:55,959 Speaker 1: system AND i was probably even leaning towards putting him 492 00:27:55,960 --> 00:27:58,480 Speaker 1: a little bit, higher because, yeah a lot of he 493 00:27:58,600 --> 00:28:00,119 Speaker 1: checks so many of the boxes that you look for 494 00:28:00,680 --> 00:28:04,920 Speaker 1: in a future starting. Pitcher and one more thing from 495 00:28:04,960 --> 00:28:07,160 Speaker 1: him THAT i wanted to play all the fans really 496 00:28:07,200 --> 00:28:09,640 Speaker 1: love to hear this type of stuff is how how 497 00:28:10,200 --> 00:28:12,280 Speaker 1: close knit a lot of these prospects are to one 498 00:28:12,680 --> 00:28:15,720 Speaker 1: another on an emotional, level and even the ones that 499 00:28:15,800 --> 00:28:18,840 Speaker 1: aren't normally all that boastful about, themselves they seem to 500 00:28:18,880 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: be extremely confident with the direction of the. Organization so once, 501 00:28:22,600 --> 00:28:25,480 Speaker 1: again this is from The Sevgeft live interview talking about 502 00:28:25,520 --> 00:28:28,720 Speaker 1: the status of the rebuild and how close he thinks 503 00:28:28,720 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: they are to turning the. 504 00:28:29,600 --> 00:28:31,960 Speaker 3: CORNER i know the front office gets a lot of 505 00:28:32,000 --> 00:28:33,760 Speaker 3: heat over the past couple of, years but in a. 506 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:36,879 Speaker 3: Rebuilt you're gonna have that because you're you want to 507 00:28:36,880 --> 00:28:38,840 Speaker 3: make sure everybody's ready to go when they get to 508 00:28:38,840 --> 00:28:41,520 Speaker 3: the big. Leagues AND i would say this, year stepping 509 00:28:41,560 --> 00:28:45,000 Speaker 3: in the spring, training it was like we got a, 510 00:28:45,080 --> 00:28:48,320 Speaker 3: Team like we have a team here and we have 511 00:28:48,440 --> 00:28:50,680 Speaker 3: a really good team In TRIPLE. I so it's like 512 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:55,800 Speaker 3: it's like once these two gel, together it's going to be, 513 00:28:55,800 --> 00:28:58,960 Speaker 3: Incredible like it's gonna be so much. Fun AND i 514 00:28:59,040 --> 00:29:00,600 Speaker 3: know the fans are gonna of. IT i know the 515 00:29:00,680 --> 00:29:02,800 Speaker 3: fans are going to be able to rally around up 516 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,680 Speaker 3: because we have so many different personalities on that. 517 00:29:05,760 --> 00:29:08,560 Speaker 1: Team it seems for the most, part a lot of 518 00:29:08,560 --> 00:29:11,320 Speaker 1: the industry seems to agree with the state of where 519 00:29:11,360 --> 00:29:13,800 Speaker 1: the farm system is. At and, YEAH i guess the 520 00:29:13,840 --> 00:29:16,520 Speaker 1: most convenient part is how is a proximity that all 521 00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:19,480 Speaker 1: these top prospects are to the major, leagues and how 522 00:29:19,520 --> 00:29:22,640 Speaker 1: many of the prospects will probably seeing debut this coming 523 00:29:22,720 --> 00:29:25,760 Speaker 1: year just because of the expanded, rosters and if they 524 00:29:25,760 --> 00:29:27,880 Speaker 1: don't have a place to play At TRIPLE, a then 525 00:29:27,920 --> 00:29:30,600 Speaker 1: that just expedites their trip to the majors and the 526 00:29:30,680 --> 00:29:31,800 Speaker 1: kind of role that they would have on the. 527 00:29:31,800 --> 00:29:35,520 Speaker 4: Active, roster RIGHT i, MEAN i think if if that's 528 00:29:35,560 --> 00:29:37,960 Speaker 4: the way things work, out if there's a major league, 529 00:29:37,960 --> 00:29:41,160 Speaker 4: season the minor league season expanded, ROSTERS i think The 530 00:29:41,200 --> 00:29:45,680 Speaker 4: marlins would probably carry somebody Like Haycus sanchez on opening. 531 00:29:45,760 --> 00:29:51,959 Speaker 2: Day you, know you have these a few prospects at 532 00:29:51,960 --> 00:29:54,480 Speaker 2: the triple projected to start The TRIPLE a, level whether 533 00:29:54,520 --> 00:29:59,160 Speaker 2: it be him Or Montey, harrison guys of that. NATURE 534 00:29:59,240 --> 00:30:02,920 Speaker 2: i think all of those players would probably have a 535 00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:07,960 Speaker 2: figure to be candidates to be with the team all, 536 00:30:08,000 --> 00:30:11,880 Speaker 2: season and that that could potentially be. Exciting it creates 537 00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,200 Speaker 2: a big headache For Don mattingly trying, to you, know 538 00:30:15,560 --> 00:30:20,600 Speaker 2: balance the development needs of guys who could be important 539 00:30:20,640 --> 00:30:25,080 Speaker 2: part of the future of the franchise with obviously trying 540 00:30:25,080 --> 00:30:31,720 Speaker 2: to win games and keep your veteran hitters. Happy you. Know, 541 00:30:32,120 --> 00:30:36,680 Speaker 2: obviously the starting lineup for The, MARLINS i think is 542 00:30:37,600 --> 00:30:41,720 Speaker 2: is pretty set and. Stone it's a pretty solid you, 543 00:30:41,760 --> 00:30:44,080 Speaker 2: know one through. EIGHT i don't know how much playing 544 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:47,480 Speaker 2: time outside of kind of the outfield rotation would be 545 00:30:47,720 --> 00:30:50,040 Speaker 2: available to some of those guys early in the, year 546 00:30:50,360 --> 00:30:54,760 Speaker 2: but you'd certainly probably see a lot of them make 547 00:30:55,000 --> 00:30:59,280 Speaker 2: their major league debut earlier than we've been expected at. 548 00:30:59,200 --> 00:31:04,520 Speaker 1: The, least right AND i mean on the other side 549 00:31:04,520 --> 00:31:07,080 Speaker 1: of that as you finish. UP i, mean the original 550 00:31:07,120 --> 00:31:10,520 Speaker 1: inspiration WHY i was interested in recording a pod episode 551 00:31:10,560 --> 00:31:13,920 Speaker 1: at this time was because of this underdog week theme 552 00:31:14,040 --> 00:31:16,960 Speaker 1: that's going across other parts Of. Destination and so while 553 00:31:16,960 --> 00:31:20,360 Speaker 1: we're already focusing on guys that are really premium guys 554 00:31:20,400 --> 00:31:24,280 Speaker 1: that the industry sees as being potentially average or above 555 00:31:24,320 --> 00:31:26,840 Speaker 1: average regular to the major league, level there are others 556 00:31:26,920 --> 00:31:30,440 Speaker 1: that are quote unquote, underdogs ones that at this stage 557 00:31:30,440 --> 00:31:34,720 Speaker 1: of their pro careers don't necessarily have that obvious path 558 00:31:34,800 --> 00:31:37,200 Speaker 1: to like big roles in the major. Leagues but as 559 00:31:37,200 --> 00:31:39,320 Speaker 1: we've mentioned time and time again on the pod that 560 00:31:39,360 --> 00:31:41,680 Speaker 1: The marlins have excellent depth in their farm. System right, 561 00:31:41,720 --> 00:31:44,720 Speaker 1: now there are guys outside their top thirty list or 562 00:31:44,720 --> 00:31:46,840 Speaker 1: even at the bottom of the top thirty prospect lists 563 00:31:46,840 --> 00:31:50,719 Speaker 1: in the system right now who who potentially even if 564 00:31:50,720 --> 00:31:53,680 Speaker 1: they're being overlooked or even if you have really specific 565 00:31:53,720 --> 00:31:57,280 Speaker 1: concerns about their game right, now there is still a 566 00:31:57,320 --> 00:32:00,360 Speaker 1: scenario where they turn out to be really effective and 567 00:32:00,480 --> 00:32:03,720 Speaker 1: consistent major league players with the right. Adjustments so that Was, 568 00:32:04,040 --> 00:32:06,720 Speaker 1: spencer just just pick out a guy or, two you 569 00:32:06,800 --> 00:32:10,560 Speaker 1: think all that isn't necessarily on the top of mind 570 00:32:10,640 --> 00:32:14,320 Speaker 1: for people following the farm, system but that you're especially high, 571 00:32:14,400 --> 00:32:17,200 Speaker 1: on or that you see not being all that far 572 00:32:17,240 --> 00:32:19,840 Speaker 1: away from taking a pretty big leap in the eyes of. 573 00:32:19,920 --> 00:32:24,360 Speaker 5: Evaluators, WELL i think the first guy that kind of 574 00:32:24,360 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 5: comes to mind for me would Be Sterling, sharp who 575 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:31,920 Speaker 5: kind of is an underdog for a few different. 576 00:32:31,960 --> 00:32:36,400 Speaker 2: Reasons obviously to be left available at The rule five 577 00:32:37,160 --> 00:32:38,600 Speaker 2: kind of has to give you a chip on your, 578 00:32:38,600 --> 00:32:42,280 Speaker 2: shoulder but also just being you, know a guy who 579 00:32:42,520 --> 00:32:45,840 Speaker 2: really doesn't have what you would think of as big 580 00:32:45,920 --> 00:32:50,400 Speaker 2: league velocity on the, mound but sort of Like Nick, 581 00:32:50,480 --> 00:32:54,920 Speaker 2: KNIGHTDER i think is he's not really quite on the 582 00:32:54,960 --> 00:32:58,240 Speaker 2: same level As, nider but despite the fact that he 583 00:32:58,320 --> 00:33:02,440 Speaker 2: throws upper eighties most of he is still a really effective. 584 00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,800 Speaker 2: Pitcher he has a couple of good off speed, pitches 585 00:33:06,160 --> 00:33:12,120 Speaker 2: and he really locates and is able to play those 586 00:33:12,160 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 2: pitches off in one another to create out whether it 587 00:33:16,320 --> 00:33:19,920 Speaker 2: be by strikeout or more frequently on the. GROUND i 588 00:33:19,960 --> 00:33:22,239 Speaker 2: think he's a guy who has a chance to be 589 00:33:22,760 --> 00:33:25,400 Speaker 2: a kind of a number five starter in the majors 590 00:33:25,400 --> 00:33:28,480 Speaker 2: for a. While and The marlins got him effectively for, 591 00:33:28,720 --> 00:33:31,600 Speaker 2: free which was a nice find by. 592 00:33:31,640 --> 00:33:37,040 Speaker 6: Them and then another guy WHO i am pretty excited 593 00:33:37,080 --> 00:33:42,720 Speaker 6: about For miami was the player that they got in the. 594 00:33:42,920 --> 00:33:48,680 Speaker 2: TRADE i believe it was the trade For Austin Dean Diui. 595 00:33:48,800 --> 00:33:56,800 Speaker 2: Burgos he is wasn't like a big time international. PROSPECT 596 00:33:56,840 --> 00:33:59,880 Speaker 2: i think he signed for a five figure. BONUS uh 597 00:34:00,400 --> 00:34:05,960 Speaker 2: traded very early in his, career, obviously AND i thought, 598 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:08,279 Speaker 2: that you, KNOW i. DIDN'T i wasn't really aware of 599 00:34:08,360 --> 00:34:12,279 Speaker 2: him before that trade, Occurred but After miami acquired, HIM 600 00:34:12,280 --> 00:34:14,560 Speaker 2: i kind of dug into him a little, bit AND 601 00:34:15,000 --> 00:34:17,840 Speaker 2: i came away pretty surprised that they were able to 602 00:34:17,840 --> 00:34:22,080 Speaker 2: pull a prospect of this caliber for a player Like. 603 00:34:22,160 --> 00:34:24,840 Speaker 2: Dean no disrespect To Austin, dean, is you, know a 604 00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:29,319 Speaker 2: capable big way outfielder to fill out a. Roster BUT i, 605 00:34:29,360 --> 00:34:32,560 Speaker 2: think you, Know burgos is a guy who has gone 606 00:34:32,640 --> 00:34:37,200 Speaker 2: from pretty much off the radar to pretty exciting in a. 607 00:34:37,239 --> 00:34:42,160 Speaker 2: HURRY i think that he's he's got a chance to 608 00:34:42,200 --> 00:34:47,799 Speaker 2: be an impact hitter and stay in the. Outfield so 609 00:34:49,080 --> 00:34:54,200 Speaker 2: that's potential for for you, know as a player who's 610 00:34:54,239 --> 00:34:58,560 Speaker 2: of a higher caliber than somebody Like Austin, dean potentially 611 00:34:58,680 --> 00:35:00,799 Speaker 2: and you can slat into the light up every. Day 612 00:35:02,680 --> 00:35:05,239 Speaker 2: those were kind of the two who he jumped out 613 00:35:05,280 --> 00:35:05,600 Speaker 2: to me the. 614 00:35:05,719 --> 00:35:10,640 Speaker 1: Most well didn't overlap with, Mine so that's that's pretty. 615 00:35:10,640 --> 00:35:13,920 Speaker 1: GOOD i guess the one guy THAT i saw pitch 616 00:35:14,040 --> 00:35:17,960 Speaker 1: quite a bit last, year AND i, mean GRANTED i 617 00:35:18,000 --> 00:35:20,400 Speaker 1: probably just caught him at the perfect, time was this 618 00:35:20,480 --> 00:35:23,680 Speaker 1: left Hander Daniel. Castano it was about the. Same, actually 619 00:35:23,760 --> 00:35:25,799 Speaker 1: he's a little bit older than Even Sterling sharp is 620 00:35:26,120 --> 00:35:28,840 Speaker 1: he's gonna Be he's gonna be twenty six by the 621 00:35:28,840 --> 00:35:31,680 Speaker 1: time we get to the fall this, year but he 622 00:35:31,760 --> 00:35:35,640 Speaker 1: Had it was a guy that just midway through last 623 00:35:35,640 --> 00:35:38,800 Speaker 1: season was totally. Forgotten he was buried in The DOUBLE 624 00:35:38,840 --> 00:35:44,240 Speaker 1: A jacksonville, bullpen and similar To, sharp he's velocity challenged 625 00:35:44,239 --> 00:35:47,680 Speaker 1: in terms of his fastball, velocity WHEREAS i don't know 626 00:35:47,760 --> 00:35:50,920 Speaker 1: if he ever gets really much above ninety miles per. 627 00:35:50,920 --> 00:35:54,200 Speaker 1: Hour but he's someone that had terrific success last year 628 00:35:54,200 --> 00:35:56,200 Speaker 1: At DOUBLE, a and the key for him was keeping 629 00:35:56,200 --> 00:35:58,480 Speaker 1: the ball in the. Ballpark he only allowed four home 630 00:35:58,560 --> 00:36:01,799 Speaker 1: runs and one hundred plus total endings that he pitched last, 631 00:36:01,840 --> 00:36:05,560 Speaker 1: season which is going to be especially with the particular 632 00:36:05,600 --> 00:36:07,719 Speaker 1: fit that he has with The Marlins now that they 633 00:36:07,760 --> 00:36:10,600 Speaker 1: continue to bring in defences At Marlins park for what 634 00:36:10,680 --> 00:36:13,040 Speaker 1: the second or third different, time they keep trying to 635 00:36:13,080 --> 00:36:15,720 Speaker 1: make it more and more, neutral and maybe they'll finally 636 00:36:15,719 --> 00:36:18,719 Speaker 1: succeed this time in increasing the home run. Rates so 637 00:36:18,800 --> 00:36:22,200 Speaker 1: having a guy that's consistently able to suppress those would 638 00:36:22,239 --> 00:36:25,799 Speaker 1: be a big. Win but really the more surprising part 639 00:36:25,840 --> 00:36:28,000 Speaker 1: was how many swings and missus he was able to 640 00:36:28,040 --> 00:36:31,239 Speaker 1: pile up last, year especially with his, changeup like he 641 00:36:31,280 --> 00:36:34,000 Speaker 1: had this one particular game WHERE i think he struck 642 00:36:34,040 --> 00:36:36,360 Speaker 1: out thirteen in a complete, game and all the swings 643 00:36:36,360 --> 00:36:38,400 Speaker 1: and misses he got it with this change, up and 644 00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:41,319 Speaker 1: how consistent he was at locating it like below the 645 00:36:41,400 --> 00:36:43,960 Speaker 1: zone and that perfect spot where it looks like a 646 00:36:44,000 --> 00:36:46,920 Speaker 1: strike at the knees when he's when it's midway to 647 00:36:46,960 --> 00:36:48,760 Speaker 1: the plate and by the time it's, caught it's almost 648 00:36:48,800 --> 00:36:51,520 Speaker 1: on the. Grounds how consistent he was with that release 649 00:36:51,560 --> 00:36:55,520 Speaker 1: point on that. Pitch that's something that really opened my. 650 00:36:55,560 --> 00:36:57,759 Speaker 1: Eyes and it wasn't a coincidence that he got like 651 00:36:57,800 --> 00:37:00,799 Speaker 1: a non roster invite to spring, training and by the 652 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:02,920 Speaker 1: time that spring training was, suspended he was still in 653 00:37:03,000 --> 00:37:05,840 Speaker 1: major league. Camp like they didn't even hurry to reassign, 654 00:37:05,920 --> 00:37:08,000 Speaker 1: him even though he seems like a big long shot 655 00:37:08,239 --> 00:37:11,960 Speaker 1: to even make the. Team so he's another guy THAT i, 656 00:37:12,000 --> 00:37:15,080 Speaker 1: mean the ceiling isn't all that. Sexity it's probably as 657 00:37:15,320 --> 00:37:18,120 Speaker 1: with someone Like, sharpen number five starter or a guy 658 00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,759 Speaker 1: that's a swingman that's the, first the odd man out 659 00:37:20,760 --> 00:37:23,400 Speaker 1: of that. Rotation but he was the very last piece 660 00:37:23,440 --> 00:37:26,160 Speaker 1: included in The Marcelo zuna trade that by far the 661 00:37:26,239 --> 00:37:28,880 Speaker 1: least regarded of all four prospects that they got in that, 662 00:37:28,920 --> 00:37:31,320 Speaker 1: deal and it's a little intriguing that they might be 663 00:37:31,360 --> 00:37:33,800 Speaker 1: able to get something out of him after already getting 664 00:37:33,800 --> 00:37:35,759 Speaker 1: a lot out of the other pieces in that, trade 665 00:37:35,800 --> 00:37:38,319 Speaker 1: Like Sandy alcntra And Zach. Gallen and then the other 666 00:37:38,360 --> 00:37:41,200 Speaker 1: one that came to mind to me was Outfielder Thomas, 667 00:37:41,320 --> 00:37:44,880 Speaker 1: jones WHO i don't know if you he necessarily fits 668 00:37:44,880 --> 00:37:47,400 Speaker 1: cleanly into like an underdog label because he was a 669 00:37:47,480 --> 00:37:49,919 Speaker 1: very high draft, pick but that was already four years. 670 00:37:49,920 --> 00:37:52,200 Speaker 1: Ago and so if you're four years removed from the 671 00:37:52,239 --> 00:37:54,600 Speaker 1: draft and you still haven't played above the LOW a, 672 00:37:54,760 --> 00:37:56,920 Speaker 1: level which is where he was each of the last two, 673 00:37:57,000 --> 00:37:59,520 Speaker 1: years THEN i think that's sufficient to say that a 674 00:37:59,520 --> 00:38:04,040 Speaker 1: lot of has been knocked off of. Him just an extraordinary, 675 00:38:04,120 --> 00:38:07,200 Speaker 1: athlete and it's not totally reflected in his, production but 676 00:38:07,760 --> 00:38:10,520 Speaker 1: just in speaking to the players and coaches that he's 677 00:38:10,560 --> 00:38:12,960 Speaker 1: been with when he's been in The marlin, system they 678 00:38:12,960 --> 00:38:16,240 Speaker 1: all swear that he is the best athlete in the entire, 679 00:38:16,280 --> 00:38:19,680 Speaker 1: system aside from of, course there're being guys that get 680 00:38:19,719 --> 00:38:22,680 Speaker 1: a lot more attention for their athleticism who already close 681 00:38:22,719 --> 00:38:25,600 Speaker 1: to major league, Ready but he's someone that has those 682 00:38:25,600 --> 00:38:28,200 Speaker 1: same kind of tools and when you like adjust for 683 00:38:28,320 --> 00:38:30,400 Speaker 1: the environment that he was in last year With, clinton 684 00:38:30,640 --> 00:38:33,160 Speaker 1: he was actually pretty productive and he had some pretty 685 00:38:33,160 --> 00:38:35,839 Speaker 1: extraordinary hot streaks in there if you just look at 686 00:38:35,880 --> 00:38:37,840 Speaker 1: a few weeks at a time where he showed glimpses 687 00:38:38,120 --> 00:38:40,279 Speaker 1: of being a really consistent. Hitter and that's going to 688 00:38:40,280 --> 00:38:42,160 Speaker 1: be like the biggest issue for. Him as a multi 689 00:38:42,160 --> 00:38:45,640 Speaker 1: sport athlete and someone who is going to have some 690 00:38:45,680 --> 00:38:48,120 Speaker 1: swing and miss in this, game you wonder if there's 691 00:38:48,120 --> 00:38:50,200 Speaker 1: ever going to be any sort of consistency with the. 692 00:38:50,239 --> 00:38:52,760 Speaker 1: Bat but as someone that can stick in center field 693 00:38:53,200 --> 00:38:57,120 Speaker 1: and is still and is still relatively. Young he's twenty. Two, 694 00:38:57,760 --> 00:39:00,279 Speaker 1: Yeah i'm still just twenty two years. Old i'm not 695 00:39:00,320 --> 00:39:02,920 Speaker 1: totally ready to give up on him quite. Yet so 696 00:39:02,960 --> 00:39:05,879 Speaker 1: he's another guy that came to, minds AND i don't 697 00:39:05,880 --> 00:39:07,319 Speaker 1: think there's ever going to get a point where he 698 00:39:07,400 --> 00:39:10,120 Speaker 1: really jumps up on prospect. Lists it's going to be 699 00:39:10,800 --> 00:39:12,439 Speaker 1: it's a long road for him to get from where 700 00:39:12,440 --> 00:39:16,280 Speaker 1: he is to being someone that people can really dream 701 00:39:16,320 --> 00:39:18,960 Speaker 1: about again and see a lot of potential moving. Forward 702 00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:21,359 Speaker 1: so he's the kind of guy that really won't get 703 00:39:21,400 --> 00:39:24,160 Speaker 1: a whole lot Of he's going to have to basically 704 00:39:24,239 --> 00:39:26,200 Speaker 1: get to the major leagues at some point through a 705 00:39:26,239 --> 00:39:31,799 Speaker 1: string of other underperforming players or. Injuries but once he gets, 706 00:39:31,800 --> 00:39:34,000 Speaker 1: there he's a guy that is either not going to 707 00:39:34,040 --> 00:39:35,960 Speaker 1: be able to hit a lick or he's able to 708 00:39:36,120 --> 00:39:38,279 Speaker 1: make a couple of tweaks to his approach in order 709 00:39:38,600 --> 00:39:42,920 Speaker 1: to really tap into that athleticism that he. Has BUT i, 710 00:39:42,960 --> 00:39:45,359 Speaker 1: mean there's a bunch of other names if you really 711 00:39:45,400 --> 00:39:47,800 Speaker 1: want to dig deep down in, Here LIKE i have 712 00:39:48,280 --> 00:39:52,399 Speaker 1: this irrational confidence in first Baseman Sean, reynolds who if 713 00:39:52,400 --> 00:39:56,560 Speaker 1: you look at almost historically strange production from him the 714 00:39:56,600 --> 00:39:58,600 Speaker 1: last couple of years in terms of his strikeout, rate 715 00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,879 Speaker 1: where like the press for guys, swinging missing so much 716 00:40:02,360 --> 00:40:04,640 Speaker 1: at low way and even the short season, level and 717 00:40:04,640 --> 00:40:06,959 Speaker 1: making it to the. Majors the president isn't even, There 718 00:40:07,320 --> 00:40:12,719 Speaker 1: but someone who's intangibles and who's just sheer size and 719 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:16,640 Speaker 1: raw power really leap out to. Me there's a lot of. 720 00:40:16,680 --> 00:40:19,120 Speaker 1: Guys there's a lot of guys that if for whatever 721 00:40:19,160 --> 00:40:25,520 Speaker 1: reason they the organization doesn't stick with all their conventional top, 722 00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,719 Speaker 1: prospects or they just have just a tremendously difficult time 723 00:40:28,960 --> 00:40:32,759 Speaker 1: getting these other more highly regarded names to, stick that 724 00:40:33,800 --> 00:40:36,120 Speaker 1: eventually there's going to be some, attrition and eventually some 725 00:40:36,160 --> 00:40:37,480 Speaker 1: of these guys are going to kind of fill that. 726 00:40:37,600 --> 00:40:42,960 Speaker 2: Void. YEAH i, MEAN i think over the upcoming season 727 00:40:43,000 --> 00:40:46,960 Speaker 2: in twenty twenty, one assuming there is, BASEBALL i think 728 00:40:47,000 --> 00:40:50,279 Speaker 2: you're going to really see kind of that future long 729 00:40:50,400 --> 00:40:53,920 Speaker 2: term lineup take shape at the major league. Level BUT 730 00:40:54,160 --> 00:40:57,359 Speaker 2: i definitely agree with you On. JONES i think he's 731 00:40:57,400 --> 00:41:00,759 Speaker 2: a guy who there's still a glamor of hope for 732 00:41:00,840 --> 00:41:03,760 Speaker 2: him to develop into a quality major. LEAGUER i, think 733 00:41:05,400 --> 00:41:10,479 Speaker 2: like you, said he wasn't as polished of a hitter 734 00:41:10,840 --> 00:41:14,080 Speaker 2: as a lot of his peers when he was. Drafted 735 00:41:14,760 --> 00:41:19,480 Speaker 2: BUT i definitely think he showed some real improvements in 736 00:41:19,520 --> 00:41:26,279 Speaker 2: that regard in twenty, nineteen and there is potential for 737 00:41:26,480 --> 00:41:30,000 Speaker 2: significant power in this frame if he's able to really 738 00:41:30,320 --> 00:41:33,399 Speaker 2: gear his swing and his approach for. THAT i don't 739 00:41:33,440 --> 00:41:38,560 Speaker 2: think he'll ever really be a great hitter for, average 740 00:41:38,719 --> 00:41:41,920 Speaker 2: but he has the physical ability to make up for 741 00:41:41,960 --> 00:41:44,280 Speaker 2: that in other. Wins, right. 742 00:41:46,080 --> 00:41:50,719 Speaker 1: What else WAS i going to mention? HERE i think 743 00:41:50,760 --> 00:41:52,839 Speaker 1: that was about. IT i guess the other way that 744 00:41:52,880 --> 00:41:56,560 Speaker 1: ties into this, is again kind of on an unfortunate, 745 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:59,440 Speaker 1: note just where The marlins are as an organization financially 746 00:41:59,840 --> 00:42:03,520 Speaker 1: and how that affects their approach to free, agency especially 747 00:42:03,600 --> 00:42:06,040 Speaker 1: this coming, year and that maybe even in multiple, years 748 00:42:06,360 --> 00:42:08,040 Speaker 1: or if it's going to be an organization that's just 749 00:42:08,120 --> 00:42:13,319 Speaker 1: hesitant to acquire like established, veterans and that if you're 750 00:42:13,360 --> 00:42:15,920 Speaker 1: not gonna spend at all in that arena the way 751 00:42:15,960 --> 00:42:17,920 Speaker 1: that they did this past. Offseason but if if they 752 00:42:17,920 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: feel like financially that, there it's they're gonna be too 753 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:26,000 Speaker 1: frugal moving forward to really make any significant investments on 754 00:42:26,040 --> 00:42:28,799 Speaker 1: those kind of free agents in their. Prime that that 755 00:42:28,960 --> 00:42:30,359 Speaker 1: if you're going to build up all your if you're 756 00:42:30,400 --> 00:42:34,640 Speaker 1: going to rely almost entirely on internal players for. Depth then, 757 00:42:35,040 --> 00:42:37,479 Speaker 1: yeah that that's really the way that these guys break 758 00:42:37,520 --> 00:42:40,160 Speaker 1: through Is i'm not even expecting them to go for 759 00:42:40,280 --> 00:42:43,320 Speaker 1: the top tier type of players, available but just really 760 00:42:43,360 --> 00:42:47,120 Speaker 1: competent veterans that aren't ready to fall off a cliff just. 761 00:42:47,239 --> 00:42:49,719 Speaker 1: Yet that's that's gonna be a difficult balance for them 762 00:42:49,760 --> 00:42:52,320 Speaker 1: to strike in terms of recruiting those type of guys 763 00:42:52,360 --> 00:42:55,880 Speaker 1: to come to the team without, uh without making really unwise. 764 00:42:56,239 --> 00:43:04,360 Speaker 1: Investments but with, that we're going to wrap up this. 765 00:43:04,440 --> 00:43:09,160 Speaker 1: Episode el S Susman Spencer morris a quick plug for 766 00:43:09,320 --> 00:43:12,120 Speaker 1: what we've been doing On Fish stripes this. Week earlier 767 00:43:12,200 --> 00:43:16,520 Speaker 1: this week in terms of our Inaugural hall Of fame 768 00:43:16,560 --> 00:43:19,560 Speaker 1: class From Marlin's hall Of Fame class of twenty, twenty 769 00:43:19,960 --> 00:43:23,040 Speaker 1: this big project that has been keeping me distracted from the. 770 00:43:23,080 --> 00:43:27,800 Speaker 1: Nothingness that did seven different, players nine different non, players 771 00:43:28,200 --> 00:43:31,280 Speaker 1: and we have an additional wing for special moments In marlin's. 772 00:43:31,280 --> 00:43:32,200 Speaker 2: History so you can. 773 00:43:32,200 --> 00:43:34,080 Speaker 1: Check that out on the. Website it's front and, center 774 00:43:34,719 --> 00:43:36,640 Speaker 1: and make sure to give that a look because it's 775 00:43:36,680 --> 00:43:38,520 Speaker 1: going to be a new annual tradition for. 776 00:43:38,600 --> 00:43:41,040 Speaker 2: Us so check Out. Fishtripe some really fun stuff on. 777 00:43:41,080 --> 00:43:44,640 Speaker 1: There and now that that is mostly in the rearview. 778 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:47,680 Speaker 1: Mirror we can focus almost entirely on this draft coming, 779 00:43:47,760 --> 00:43:50,399 Speaker 1: up as we spoke about earlier in this, episode less 780 00:43:50,440 --> 00:43:53,400 Speaker 1: than three weeks away from The Major League Baseball, draft 781 00:43:53,880 --> 00:43:57,520 Speaker 1: and there'll be that very interesting undrafted free agency period 782 00:43:57,920 --> 00:44:01,800 Speaker 1: right after, that and it's gonna be very, weird as 783 00:44:01,840 --> 00:44:04,600 Speaker 1: we keep, saying to realize how that draft class will 784 00:44:04,600 --> 00:44:07,800 Speaker 1: fit in with the organization if they're not necessarily playing 785 00:44:07,840 --> 00:44:11,160 Speaker 1: a lot of. Games but it's gonna be it's a big, 786 00:44:11,239 --> 00:44:13,719 Speaker 1: unknown and we're very excited to tackle that with you 787 00:44:14,600 --> 00:44:17,279 Speaker 1: both the two of us And ian And, ethan we're 788 00:44:17,320 --> 00:44:22,640 Speaker 1: gonna be covering prospects extremely closely as as something as 789 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:26,279 Speaker 1: something happens on the baseball. Side so thank you very, Much. 790 00:44:26,280 --> 00:44:29,239 Speaker 1: Spencer this was a very good, time a lot of good. 791 00:44:29,239 --> 00:44:34,920 Speaker 2: Insight absolutely thanks for having. Me it's been fun earning their. 792 00:44:34,960 --> 00:44:37,799 Speaker 1: Stripes will be sure to come at you either right 793 00:44:37,840 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: before the draft or we might have something like reacting 794 00:44:40,520 --> 00:44:43,400 Speaker 1: to the draft right after it, happens but one way or, 795 00:44:43,400 --> 00:44:47,480 Speaker 1: another you'll hear from us very. Soon Go fish wo