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Speaker 1: Hey, welcome into All Ball. I'm Doug Gottlieb All Basketball

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Speaker 1: all the time, and uh for this podcast, I thought

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Speaker 1: we'd do something a little bit different. You've heard me

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Speaker 1: have long form interviews with Jay billis you of course

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Speaker 1: you can download that and listen to it, with Randy Bennett,

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Speaker 1: with Iran ga Nut, with a lot of different people.

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Speaker 1: We've had some more long form. We've also had some

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Speaker 1: guys who are kind of like boots on the ground

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Speaker 1: covering different teams and gotten their thoughts. So here's what

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Speaker 1: I want to do with like with this week's All

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Speaker 1: Ball podcast. Okay, um, I asked you to send in questions,

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Speaker 1: and I have questions, frankly from a lot of guys

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Speaker 1: that are really really liking the business, and then from

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Speaker 1: some of you that I don't like. No, I'm kidding,

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Speaker 1: from people that are just listening and want to know.

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Speaker 1: And the response has been great, and so I'll get

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Speaker 1: to I'll answer as many of those as possible, and

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Speaker 1: I'll even give you a shout out here on the

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Speaker 1: on the podcast. And and then I also wanted to um,

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Speaker 1: I've seen a bunch of basketball games recently, like a

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Speaker 1: bunch I called eight games Cayman Islands. I saw eight

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Speaker 1: teams play in Las Vegas. I've done other college basketball

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Speaker 1: games as well. So what I'm gonna do is, I'm

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Speaker 1: gonna give you some some headlines, some college basketball headlines.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna give you a little bit of depth on

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Speaker 1: several of the teams that I have a little bit

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Speaker 1: of depth on. That's really the idea, Like, yeo, dude,

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Speaker 1: I saw these teams. I talked to the coach, I

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Speaker 1: talked to people watching the team, etcetera, etcetera, And you

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Speaker 1: might be interested in it. I'm not gonna go long

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Speaker 1: form on it, but I got stuff on Nevada for

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Speaker 1: it for you, an interesting team. And I got stuff

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Speaker 1: on Texas interesting team, North Carolina, interesting team, Michigan State,

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Speaker 1: I think interesting team. You see l A interesting team,

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Speaker 1: Pack twelve. In general, I got some stuff on for you.

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Speaker 1: Um who else. I've seen Creighton, I've seen Boise State,

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Speaker 1: I've seen Illinois State. Who else Clemson, Clemson, Missouri, No, No, No,

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Speaker 1: Southern Illinois, you mask Tulsa, I've seen a lot of

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Speaker 1: Bass Xavier, and then I have some Lakers stuff for you.

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Speaker 1: I have some thoughts for you on the Celtics and

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Speaker 1: the Jazz to Utah people don't seem to like me. Listen,

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Speaker 1: let me start with the Utah Jazz. I'll get to

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Speaker 1: a bunch of your questions. So what I said when

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Speaker 1: I tweeted out and I think this is going back

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Speaker 1: to like Sunday night, was basically like, look, they're a

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Speaker 1: mess right now. And one of the reasons their mess

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Speaker 1: is that Dot Mitchell. There's a little bit of resentment

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Speaker 1: towards Odom Mitchell. Sure, they are nine and twelve, that

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Speaker 1: is tied for next to last place in the West.

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Speaker 1: And and look, I'm not an idiot. I understand that

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Speaker 1: a good portion of their games have been played on

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Speaker 1: the road, more games on the road than at home.

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Speaker 1: And they're a very good home team. Plus you have altitude.

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Speaker 1: And when Mitchell comes back healthy, the thought is that

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Speaker 1: they will be better. That's reasonable expectations. It should be

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Speaker 1: pointed out that they lost by fifty with Ddovan Mitchell

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Speaker 1: to the Grizzly to the excuse me, to the Mavericks.

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Speaker 1: Then he took thirty five shots the next game against

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Speaker 1: the seventies sixers. And so when I say and then

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Speaker 1: they came back and they beat the Celtics, at home.

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Speaker 1: Uh no, they beat the Celtic excuse me, on the road.

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Speaker 1: Then they came back and beat the Celtics on the road.

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Speaker 1: So when I say they resent him, I don't mean

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Speaker 1: that they don't want to be around him, that they

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Speaker 1: don't like him. But but here's the way it works

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Speaker 1: in the reality of the NBA. And I'm sorry if

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Speaker 1: you on Twitter think that the world is black and white,

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Speaker 1: it's really more gray. And you have to one watch tape,

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Speaker 1: great team when you're your best player is not your

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Speaker 1: best teammate. And my brother are who's an assistant coach

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Speaker 1: Oregon State. You guys have heard him on the All

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Speaker 1: Bob podcast. His way of expressing it is you are

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Speaker 1: who your best player is. And because Donovan Mitchell had

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Speaker 1: such an outstanding first year, and because the belief is

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Speaker 1: He was handed the leadership role of the Utah Jazz

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Speaker 1: because he was awesome and you're gonna get better. Everybody

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Speaker 1: takes a jump. But a little bit of this is like, uh,

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Speaker 1: to how you play. Drv Mitchell is a below three

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Speaker 1: are you fucking kidding me? Sat right? That's one of

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Speaker 1: those Hey, dude, You've got to get other people involved.

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Speaker 1: And he's a tremendous driver. And we've seen the we've

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Speaker 1: seen how quickly he can elevate, how he can dunk

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Speaker 1: much attention. So when I stay resented, it's what's the games?

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Speaker 1: And there are times where he's not moving the basketball there.

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Speaker 1: there are times in which the ball sticks a little

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Speaker 1: from three, these are bad numbers and he's not moving

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Speaker 1: the basketball. Additionally, you are who your best player is

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Speaker 1: he there are times in which he's not even close

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Speaker 1: to buying in defensively. And so when you're a I

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Speaker 1: don't know, he's he's twenty one year old kid, right

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Speaker 1: when you're a kid, two year old, right when you're

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Speaker 1: when just turned twenty two, and everybody's telling you you're

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Speaker 1: the greatest player ever, the rookie of the year last year.

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Speaker 1: You know, regardless, Ben Simmons shouldn't have been because he

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Speaker 1: read shoot a year, which is a valid argument. By

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Speaker 1: the way, Um, you have to be you have to

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Speaker 1: be better than everyone, or give more effort than anyone defensively,

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Speaker 1: it's not fair. But I'm a coaches kid. My dad

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Speaker 1: have this discussion with him, like, look, sorry, man, you

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Speaker 1: You gotta take more criticism for your defense, for your

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Speaker 1: when I say that they resent him some, it means

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Speaker 1: watch their body language. When Mitchell goes one on one,

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Speaker 1: takes a long too long contested to mrs, then gives

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Speaker 1: languages again, excuse my language, fuck that guy. It doesn't

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Speaker 1: reality of it. I mentored Kyle khos One went through

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Speaker 1: this last year with the Lakers, who's came from nowhere,

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Speaker 1: was blown up playing, you know, scoring, and people fall

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Speaker 1: People fall in love with box scores and with guys

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Speaker 1: people have figured stuff out. They just have and they're

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Speaker 1: We know the issues that Ricky Rubio has shooting the basketball.

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Speaker 1: it's funny Rubio actually gets criticized as a bad defender.

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Speaker 1: Asked people in the league look at the analytics. Ruby

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Speaker 1: remember he's guarding the best players in the world who play,

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Speaker 1: you know, the best scores in the world. Is hard.

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Speaker 1: They're coming at you just like you're coming at them.

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Speaker 1: So we circle back to what's wrong with the Jazz

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Speaker 1: A lot of stuff. Mitchell being hurt, that's an issue,

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Speaker 1: doesn't understand that he has to improve as a shooter.

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Speaker 1: can't fool your teammates. You can't fool layers in the NBA,

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Speaker 1: couple of that's a couple of these questions here, Hunter Mayhan.

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Speaker 1: Hunter Mayhan is a professional golfer. He has three How

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Speaker 1: do you have more followers than I have on Twitter?

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Speaker 1: I don't understand. He's an awesome follow but that's really amazing,

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Speaker 1: Hunter Mahan. Thousand followers. Right, He says, what do you

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Speaker 1: do with Brandon Ingram? So if you watch the Lakers

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Speaker 1: a reason they switch every screen with the exception of

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Speaker 1: Steph Curry because they're trying to hide Curry and he's

426
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Speaker 1: a He's a high volume passer that turns it over

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Speaker 1: a lot. And you know, when they needed a bucket,

428
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Speaker 1: they turned to k D. They turned to k D.

429
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Speaker 1: People forget that k D carried them in the playoffs

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Speaker 1: last year when Steph wasn't healthy. Are they going to

431
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Speaker 1: be as good without Steph? No, He's He's a first

432
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Speaker 1: ballot Hall of Famer, But I would tell you that

433
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Speaker 1: Kevin Durant is a better all around player. And while

434
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Speaker 1: you can throw out a all that matters is wins

435
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Speaker 1: and losses and steps team. There's a lot of other

436
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Speaker 1: mitigating factors as to Like, I'd love to know the

437
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Speaker 1: win percentage of who they played when Steps. You know,

438
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Speaker 1: Steph's win total was better who played with him, not

439
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Speaker 1: just top couple of guys, but the entirety of the roster.

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Speaker 1: So a lot of other factors that go into it.

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Speaker 1: The other part that's really important to mention is the

442
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Speaker 1: Warriors are going to have all three of those starters back,

443
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Speaker 1: and if they're healthy, this very competitive NBA we've seen

444
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Speaker 1: so far, it is not going to be that competitive

445
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Speaker 1: in the playoffs. The only really interesting part, or maybe

446
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Speaker 1: two interesting parts about the Warriors is do they leave

447
00:25:27,680 --> 00:25:30,359
Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins on the floor when they used to go

448
00:25:30,480 --> 00:25:35,720
Speaker 1: small ball? And how does the whole K D. Steph

449
00:25:35,880 --> 00:25:39,399
Speaker 1: Clay thing work, you know, as we kind of go

450
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Speaker 1: down the stretch. But Andrea Goodala at some point will

451
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Speaker 1: be over the hill. It looked that way last year

452
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Speaker 1: in the regular season. He missed most of the playoffs,

453
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Speaker 1: but he was incredibly important because he's so smart and

454
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Speaker 1: he can just make one shot to keep you. And

455
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Speaker 1: then Sean Livingston at some point it's gonna be over

456
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Speaker 1: the hill. All those parts aren't factored into their playing

457
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Speaker 1: more minutes, especially Godala when the other three starters are out.

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Speaker 1: So do I think the Warriors are still substantially better

459
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Speaker 1: when healthy. I don't know if they'll remain healthy, and

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Speaker 1: I don't know if they get exposed for having such

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Speaker 1: a week bench and so many other aging pieces outside

462
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Speaker 1: of their big three. And we don't know what DeMarcus

463
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Speaker 1: Cousins like coming off of achilles tent in surgery. Not

464
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Speaker 1: not just that, but how does he fit into how

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Speaker 1: they want to play? Can he guard? When they've beaten people,

466
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Speaker 1: when they have won championships, they've done so playing small ball,

467
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Speaker 1: play big at the start of the game. And they've

468
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Speaker 1: had ego list centers like Ja like Andrew Bogatt. Boget

469
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Speaker 1: was great past or great screener. And that's not how

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Speaker 1: DeMarcus Cousins plays. Will he buy into the way in

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Speaker 1: which they want to play? We'll see. And then you

472
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Speaker 1: have this, the Celtics who have been bad. Considering they're

473
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Speaker 1: presumed talent, they've been bad. We're gonna have to, at

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Speaker 1: least some at some point take a breath and realize

475
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Speaker 1: maybe their talent is not that good. I think Brad

476
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Speaker 1: gets it together. I think they got some Scary Terry

477
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Speaker 1: and his desire to be a starter elsewhere, even though

478
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Speaker 1: I'm not sure the league. Matter of fact, I'm pretty

479
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Speaker 1: sure the league doesn't view him as a starter on

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Speaker 1: a good team like Scary Terry. I'm sure it hurts

481
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Speaker 1: their chemical makeup. Um it doesn't help that scary Terry

482
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Speaker 1: wants the contract that Marcus Smart has, and Marcus Smart

483
00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:27,960
Speaker 1: continues to play the exact same way he played before

484
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Speaker 1: he got the contract. Even though he can't shoot, he

485
00:27:29,920 --> 00:27:32,560
Speaker 1: still keep shooting. He does play hard, he does does

486
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Speaker 1: give them tenacity. But this is a league that really

487
00:27:36,760 --> 00:27:38,920
Speaker 1: benefits guys that can shoot the basketball and he cannot.

488
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Speaker 1: And then maybe the elephant in the room is so

489
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Speaker 1: many people thought Jason Tatum would be a superstar in

490
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Speaker 1: year two when you realized he's only one year removed

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Speaker 1: from being in college where he played one year he

492
00:27:50,880 --> 00:27:53,399
Speaker 1: averaged fourteen points a game, And I think he's going

493
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Speaker 1: to be a really good player. He's got a chance

494
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Speaker 1: to be a star player. But there's just holes that

495
00:27:58,240 --> 00:27:59,879
Speaker 1: you have to shore up over time, that you have

496
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Speaker 1: to get better at the same thing with Jalen Brown,

497
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Speaker 1: Like Jalen Brown shot the ball better his first couple

498
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Speaker 1: of years, then most people could have thought, but he's

499
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Speaker 1: not a great shooter. And then you have Al Horford

500
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Speaker 1: who's ridiculously valuable. But do we get to the point

501
00:28:15,200 --> 00:28:20,000
Speaker 1: where how how however went from being overrated and overpaid

502
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Speaker 1: to slightly underrated and undervalue to now you're starting to

503
00:28:24,480 --> 00:28:26,960
Speaker 1: see like he's good and he does a lot of things,

504
00:28:27,000 --> 00:28:29,800
Speaker 1: but there there is some he's valued more because he's

505
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Speaker 1: a professional, because in an NBA playoff game, he'll make

506
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Speaker 1: a shot and he can guard multiple positions. But the

507
00:28:34,880 --> 00:28:37,800
Speaker 1: regular season sometimes just a lack of oop and skill

508
00:28:37,920 --> 00:28:42,920
Speaker 1: and athleticism and youth does get exposed. It's possible that

509
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Speaker 1: the Celtics just aren't as talented as we thought they

510
00:28:46,640 --> 00:28:50,160
Speaker 1: would be possible. I still think they're still my favorite.

511
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Speaker 1: But remember there's a reason that the Raptors have won

512
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Speaker 1: so many games. And then the Raptors add the winning

513
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Speaker 1: quality of a Danny Green, and I think a better

514
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Speaker 1: player than to mar De rozen In a in a

515
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Speaker 1: Kawhi Leonard. Okay, let's get some of these questions. Doug Darlington.

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Speaker 1: This is at Lombardo Keith is his Twitter handle. Do

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Speaker 1: you think it's a myth that they don't play defense

518
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Speaker 1: in the NBA With a high level of skill and

519
00:29:16,560 --> 00:29:18,800
Speaker 1: no hands checking, it seems like you can play d

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00:29:18,960 --> 00:29:22,800
Speaker 1: but still give up points. Um, The defense is actually

521
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Speaker 1: very very good in most parts of the NBA. It

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Speaker 1: is completely a myth, and the reason that the myth

523
00:29:30,600 --> 00:29:33,320
Speaker 1: is sometimes it's really good defense and just better offense.

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Speaker 1: Those guys are unbelievably skilled. Like when I say that

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Speaker 1: Andre Goodala might be over the hill, I remember, like,

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Speaker 1: this is a twenty point of game guy who was

527
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Speaker 1: a starter in an All Star for the Phoenix Suns.

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Speaker 1: He's still one of the fifty best players on Earth.

529
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Speaker 1: But at some point father time catches up to you.

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Speaker 1: He doesn't shoot the ball with nearly the confidence that

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Speaker 1: he used to. He's not the same player and now

532
00:29:57,240 --> 00:29:59,880
Speaker 1: he doesn't move the same It's totally a myth that

533
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Speaker 1: there's no there's no defense in the NBA. Look dark

534
00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:04,680
Speaker 1: if you can't play in the NBA. If you can't

535
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Speaker 1: guard your spot period period. Like I had somebody actually

536
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Speaker 1: at a GM of an NFL team, Why can't Jimmer

537
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Speaker 1: for Debt play in the NBA? Said because he can't

538
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Speaker 1: guard a soul. And even if it isn't totally true,

539
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Speaker 1: that becomes the perception of you you can't guard, you

540
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Speaker 1: don't play. Brian says, where did the Clippers end up

541
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Speaker 1: at the end of the season. I don't think they

542
00:30:26,000 --> 00:30:29,480
Speaker 1: end up in first place, but the Clippers Jerry West,

543
00:30:29,960 --> 00:30:34,240
Speaker 1: Laurence Frank Doc Rivers think about it. No DeAndre Jordan's,

544
00:30:34,760 --> 00:30:39,120
Speaker 1: no Chris Paul, no Blake Griffin, first place in their division.

545
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Speaker 1: It's incredible. Um, they believe they got a great shot

546
00:30:44,040 --> 00:30:48,200
Speaker 1: at Kauai. They believe they're gonna bring in stars. I

547
00:30:48,240 --> 00:30:50,600
Speaker 1: don't know if Quai, I don't know enough of I've

548
00:30:50,600 --> 00:30:54,840
Speaker 1: heard enough chatter that makes me believe they're gonna get

549
00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:58,040
Speaker 1: a couple of guys, But I don't know the reaction.

550
00:30:58,960 --> 00:31:01,160
Speaker 1: Everybody said Kevin would always be it would be a Laker.

551
00:31:01,240 --> 00:31:04,360
Speaker 1: That didn't happen. But they also said that Lebron ultimately

552
00:31:04,360 --> 00:31:06,480
Speaker 1: want to be a Laker, and that did happen, So

553
00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:09,800
Speaker 1: who knows. What do I think they end up. I

554
00:31:09,840 --> 00:31:13,680
Speaker 1: think they end up getting into the playoffs um in

555
00:31:13,760 --> 00:31:17,440
Speaker 1: the Eighth Sea variety, And I think that Shay Guild's

556
00:31:17,440 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 1: Alexander is going to be a star point guard for

557
00:31:20,000 --> 00:31:22,680
Speaker 1: them in the future. And I think they've done a

558
00:31:22,800 --> 00:31:26,360
Speaker 1: very good job of evaluating the players they have. What

559
00:31:26,400 --> 00:31:28,800
Speaker 1: they do with Tobias Harris is gonna be interesting. What

560
00:31:28,840 --> 00:31:32,360
Speaker 1: they do with Avery Bradley is gonna be interesting. But

561
00:31:32,720 --> 00:31:36,240
Speaker 1: they play hard and they're deep, and I think maybe

562
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Speaker 1: the best acquisition they made was Rex Calmanian as their

563
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Speaker 1: defensive coordinator. He's he's been awesome the reason Toronto before that,

564
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Speaker 1: he was in Oklahoma City. Paul Zeibowski Jr. Says are

565
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Speaker 1: the Pistons a threat in the East. I don't think

566
00:31:50,120 --> 00:31:51,600
Speaker 1: there're a threat to win the East, but there I

567
00:31:51,600 --> 00:31:53,160
Speaker 1: think they're a threat to knock out one of those

568
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Speaker 1: teams that we assume will be in the Eastern Conference finals.

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Speaker 1: And I assume, I mean everybody thinks six or Raptors

570
00:32:02,120 --> 00:32:04,720
Speaker 1: Celtics are the three best teams, right. I think the

571
00:32:04,720 --> 00:32:06,760
Speaker 1: Pistons are a threat to either of those teams. And

572
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:09,600
Speaker 1: it's one of the things that's been great is Blake

573
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Speaker 1: Griffin has empowdered about being traded. He's made himself into

574
00:32:13,160 --> 00:32:16,560
Speaker 1: a star, an absolute star. But do I think they

575
00:32:16,560 --> 00:32:18,880
Speaker 1: win the playoffs? No. I think they get and lose.

576
00:32:19,000 --> 00:32:22,840
Speaker 1: I guess they would lose in the semifinals. I believe

577
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Speaker 1: that that would be their seiling. But if they run

578
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Speaker 1: up on one of those other teams early, they could

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Speaker 1: knock him off. Uh. I think this is Raleigh says,

580
00:32:33,760 --> 00:32:37,000
Speaker 1: your thoughts on Luca done. He's already the MAV's best

581
00:32:37,000 --> 00:32:39,000
Speaker 1: player in primary decision maker When the game is on

582
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Speaker 1: the line. Um, Don check is really skilled, Bigger than

583
00:32:44,040 --> 00:32:46,680
Speaker 1: I thought, thicker than I thought, slower than I thought.

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Speaker 1: But I'm not surprised at his basketball, like you, Um.

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00:32:51,000 --> 00:32:55,120
Speaker 1: The NBA obviously value skill, shooting, passing, maybe more than

586
00:32:55,200 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: never has. He is going to be a defensive liability

587
00:32:58,920 --> 00:33:00,800
Speaker 1: and he's kind of everything I thought because he had

588
00:33:00,800 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: played high level of European basketball. Nothing faces him. But

589
00:33:04,400 --> 00:33:05,840
Speaker 1: there are just times in which, you know, you get

590
00:33:05,840 --> 00:33:07,640
Speaker 1: to the playoffs and he's gonna be isolated on guys

591
00:33:07,640 --> 00:33:09,760
Speaker 1: are just too too explosive, and they go buy him

592
00:33:10,000 --> 00:33:12,400
Speaker 1: and they'll be you know, people that you put on

593
00:33:12,480 --> 00:33:14,440
Speaker 1: him where he can't get a step and he struggles,

594
00:33:15,160 --> 00:33:17,920
Speaker 1: but he's a ten year starter for them, you know,

595
00:33:18,680 --> 00:33:22,640
Speaker 1: and if you put the right speed and athlete the

596
00:33:22,640 --> 00:33:24,920
Speaker 1: The guy that I don't like is Dennis Smith Jr.

597
00:33:25,240 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, I don't think he's a particularly hard worker.

598
00:33:27,240 --> 00:33:29,680
Speaker 1: He's not a good shooter. The good thing there is

599
00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,800
Speaker 1: he can play off the basketball because you don't want

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Speaker 1: him on the ball because he's not really a creative passer.

601
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Speaker 1: And I would say long term he's probably a bench player,

602
00:33:38,040 --> 00:33:40,320
Speaker 1: but he's got to shoot the ball better. And he's

603
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:42,040
Speaker 1: got to be better at all other facets of his

604
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Speaker 1: game because this is a it's a shooting and steel

605
00:33:44,600 --> 00:33:49,320
Speaker 1: based league. Mr Gottlieb Many in Big Blue Nation believe

606
00:33:49,360 --> 00:33:51,560
Speaker 1: that cow struggles lately in recruiting are due to tension

607
00:33:51,600 --> 00:33:55,680
Speaker 1: with Lebron's people. If you're with the cool people in basketball,

608
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Speaker 1: have you earned anything like this? Well, I think Lebron

609
00:33:59,400 --> 00:34:04,240
Speaker 1: not being close to them becomes kind of sort of problematic.

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Speaker 1: I also think, you know, he's in Ohio before, It's

611
00:34:06,800 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: not that far to get down to Kentucky. And I

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Speaker 1: do wonder what happens now they have Anthony Davis, you know,

613
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Speaker 1: under contract with Rich Paul. Do they land Anthony Davis

614
00:34:19,040 --> 00:34:22,760
Speaker 1: and this Cow helped push that along? Does that become reasonable? Yeah?

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Speaker 1: I also think that, look, the dude thing has become cool.

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Speaker 1: You know. I think that Louisville has done a great job. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think the whole recruiting thing is fastening. But look,

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Speaker 1: he got most of the guys that he thought he

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Speaker 1: was going to get. It's different when you have like

620
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Speaker 1: when Penny Hardaway coaches a kid in au ball and

621
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Speaker 1: in high school ball, like Penny Hardaway should get him

622
00:34:47,960 --> 00:34:51,440
Speaker 1: and that's what he meant. That's what he meant. I

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Speaker 1: don't know enough about Lebron's people and if they've turned

624
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Speaker 1: on Cal. I just know that Lebron's people are now

625
00:34:57,000 --> 00:35:00,960
Speaker 1: in l A and so proximity has kind of change things.

626
00:35:01,800 --> 00:35:04,879
Speaker 1: Best NBA players since two thousand's not to make an

627
00:35:04,920 --> 00:35:08,080
Speaker 1: All Star Game? This from Thomas and the worst player

628
00:35:08,760 --> 00:35:11,480
Speaker 1: to make an All Star Game. Leading candidates Mike Conley

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Speaker 1: and lamar Odom, the Meadow Core, and Brad Miller. Brad

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Speaker 1: Miller made an All Star Game. I had no idea.

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00:35:19,000 --> 00:35:21,359
Speaker 1: I like Brad Miller. He's a great dude. Man hung

632
00:35:21,400 --> 00:35:24,759
Speaker 1: out with him at the USA Basketball Trials one year.

633
00:35:25,400 --> 00:35:27,560
Speaker 1: One of the best dudes I've ever met. The Meadow

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Speaker 1: Cop are also incredible dude. Um l O and Mike Conley.

635
00:35:31,000 --> 00:35:33,360
Speaker 1: Mike Conley should be an All Star, but the problem

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Speaker 1: with him is, you know, like I would rather have

637
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Speaker 1: there's blasphemy, Mike Conley on my team than Russell Westbrook

638
00:35:38,719 --> 00:35:42,120
Speaker 1: on my team. And I think Russell Westbrook has more talent,

639
00:35:42,320 --> 00:35:46,279
Speaker 1: plays hard, tough, etcetera, etcetera. But I think I think

640
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Speaker 1: you'll get more wins out of playing with Mike Conley.

641
00:35:49,280 --> 00:35:51,600
Speaker 1: Kind of a throwback, but he can also score. Then

642
00:35:51,600 --> 00:35:56,719
Speaker 1: you will out of out of Russell Westbrook. That's Southern

643
00:35:56,800 --> 00:36:00,440
Speaker 1: California player you played against. It didn't make it big,

644
00:36:00,560 --> 00:36:02,880
Speaker 1: but should have well. Illusion me, man, if you know

645
00:36:02,920 --> 00:36:06,040
Speaker 1: anything about Southern California basketball. Shake Cotton played at a

646
00:36:06,120 --> 00:36:08,640
Speaker 1: high level, but was supposed to be the first you know,

647
00:36:08,680 --> 00:36:10,280
Speaker 1: got to go straight from high school in the pros.

648
00:36:10,600 --> 00:36:13,800
Speaker 1: Those are the two names that and I know that

649
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Speaker 1: the chief, um, the chief at Cherokee Parks made it

650
00:36:22,800 --> 00:36:24,759
Speaker 1: to the NBA, but he should have been a better

651
00:36:24,840 --> 00:36:27,440
Speaker 1: NBA player. He should have been more impactful NBA player.

652
00:36:27,560 --> 00:36:31,160
Speaker 1: Chris Burgess another guy who um, now he would be

653
00:36:31,200 --> 00:36:32,920
Speaker 1: a stretch five. I don't know if he could guard

654
00:36:33,000 --> 00:36:35,759
Speaker 1: the way you need to as a stretch five. And

655
00:36:35,800 --> 00:36:37,600
Speaker 1: you know, Eric Channeliz is a guy that you know

656
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Speaker 1: now he wouldn't be as valued but seven vitall and

657
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Speaker 1: I don't think he played a regular season game in

658
00:36:42,360 --> 00:36:45,000
Speaker 1: the NBA. So we've had a lot of guys. Who's

659
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Speaker 1: your favorite to win the Missouri Valley Conference and make

660
00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:51,120
Speaker 1: the tournament? Well, I've seen several more Valley teams. I

661
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,160
Speaker 1: don't think Missouri states there. I don't think Louis Chicago

662
00:36:54,239 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: is as good as they've been. I'm gonna go with

663
00:36:56,160 --> 00:37:00,000
Speaker 1: Illinois State. That they have Malik Yarborough transfer from St. Louis,

664
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Speaker 1: got pretty good guard play as well. I don't know

665
00:37:02,520 --> 00:37:04,200
Speaker 1: if they have the overall shooting, but I would go

666
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Speaker 1: with Illinois State as my favorite to win the Valley

667
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Speaker 1: Sparty Basketball. Why does Izzo called time out at the timeline, Well,

668
00:37:14,160 --> 00:37:16,480
Speaker 1: because he wants guys to bring it up and he

669
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Speaker 1: has a half court set that he wants to run.

670
00:37:19,440 --> 00:37:22,480
Speaker 1: He and it's interesting that he does this in the

671
00:37:22,520 --> 00:37:24,520
Speaker 1: first half, and I think sometimes it hurts momentum. I

672
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Speaker 1: know he's using it for the future for but this

673
00:37:27,440 --> 00:37:29,720
Speaker 1: is something that time is was always done. Look, there's

674
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Speaker 1: um Roy Williams, for example. He always traps either on

675
00:37:35,760 --> 00:37:38,799
Speaker 1: the dribble or on the first pass when you come

676
00:37:38,800 --> 00:37:40,960
Speaker 1: out of a time out, first half and second half,

677
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Speaker 1: first time out, that's what they do. He also at

678
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,279
Speaker 1: the end of games always throws in the mid court

679
00:37:46,320 --> 00:37:49,160
Speaker 1: and calls the time out. That's just his style. So

680
00:37:49,440 --> 00:37:51,520
Speaker 1: is though. He always has a guy bringing up into

681
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Speaker 1: the front court as quickly as they can to get

682
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Speaker 1: it right where he wants and then he calls time

683
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Speaker 1: out so they can drop a play right in front

684
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Speaker 1: of him, and I'm sure that he would be somebody

685
00:37:59,600 --> 00:38:02,440
Speaker 1: who want that NBA rule where you could advance the basketball.

686
00:38:02,480 --> 00:38:04,279
Speaker 1: I don't like it. I think you have to earn

687
00:38:04,320 --> 00:38:07,320
Speaker 1: those earned that yardage if you will, And I also

688
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:09,200
Speaker 1: like that there's a difference in college in pro you

689
00:38:09,200 --> 00:38:11,680
Speaker 1: don't have to have the same game. Kyle says, do

690
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Speaker 1: you think Texas Tech finishes in the top two or

691
00:38:14,480 --> 00:38:18,640
Speaker 1: three in the Big Twelve? Again, I don't. I don't,

692
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Speaker 1: but it wouldn't surprise me because I think Chris Beard

693
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Speaker 1: is an amazing coach. I watched them play two games

694
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Speaker 1: in Kansas City. I mentioned all the teams I've seen played.

695
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Speaker 1: I walked in there down thirteen to USC, who probably

696
00:38:32,800 --> 00:38:35,839
Speaker 1: has more talent, and they end up kicking USC's as.

697
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Speaker 1: And the next night they play against Nebraska, who probably

698
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Speaker 1: has more talent, and they beat in Nebraska. I think

699
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Speaker 1: that the Big Twelve is I would guess that Baylor

700
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Speaker 1: would be the tenth best team. I don't think Oklahoma

701
00:38:47,920 --> 00:38:49,799
Speaker 1: State finishes last. I think they're actually pretty good. They

702
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Speaker 1: because I feel like a tournament team. To me, Oklahoma

703
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Speaker 1: I still have my concerns about UM and then TCU.

704
00:38:57,280 --> 00:39:01,359
Speaker 1: It's really hard because they haven't played anybody yet, so

705
00:39:01,440 --> 00:39:03,959
Speaker 1: I think they finished upper half. But I would say

706
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Speaker 1: that the top two teams or Kansas and Kansas State

707
00:39:06,400 --> 00:39:10,080
Speaker 1: Kans States should be really good. Bruce obviously keep Pucker's

708
00:39:10,080 --> 00:39:12,080
Speaker 1: a little bit when they when they play against KU,

709
00:39:13,200 --> 00:39:15,920
Speaker 1: and they usually lose a game that they shouldn't. So

710
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Speaker 1: I think the top two, and I frankly think Texas

711
00:39:18,280 --> 00:39:20,160
Speaker 1: should be really good. I like the way that Texas

712
00:39:20,200 --> 00:39:24,480
Speaker 1: plays now. They spread you out. UM. Obviously, Hayes, the

713
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Speaker 1: new freshman big Kid, is an amazing story from being

714
00:39:27,320 --> 00:39:31,719
Speaker 1: like lightly recruited now being stud there. I like Texas.

715
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Speaker 1: I would say that Texas Tech wins a bunch of games.

716
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Speaker 1: You know, they win ten eleven games in the Big twelve.

717
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Speaker 1: I think the Big twelve is gonna be KU at

718
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Speaker 1: the top, and then maybe k State right behind him,

719
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Speaker 1: and then probably just a clump of B four five

720
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Speaker 1: teams kind of worked in together. Craig says, why wouldn't

721
00:39:54,360 --> 00:39:56,120
Speaker 1: it pay for the sixth to try sending Folds to

722
00:39:56,160 --> 00:39:57,800
Speaker 1: the G League and let him work out as Kinston

723
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Speaker 1: small platform. If you listen back to our previous All

724
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Speaker 1: Ball podcast, we talked a lot about Marquel Folds. I

725
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Speaker 1: don't think he can be a G League player with

726
00:40:08,320 --> 00:40:10,960
Speaker 1: the Sixers. You can't draft a guy number one overall

727
00:40:11,440 --> 00:40:13,839
Speaker 1: and then have on your G League team the second year.

728
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Speaker 1: There's something where everybody in that organization or with Folds,

729
00:40:18,320 --> 00:40:20,840
Speaker 1: they're all blaming each other instead of hey, let's just

730
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Speaker 1: fix Marquel. So I think you probably somebody trades for

731
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Speaker 1: him for nothing. You shut him down, you work on

732
00:40:29,360 --> 00:40:32,120
Speaker 1: him mentally, emotionally, and if you play him in the

733
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Speaker 1: G League, fine, but you can't do it with a

734
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Speaker 1: team that drafted number one overall. And if you play

735
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Speaker 1: him on an NBA floor, you gotta play where he

736
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Speaker 1: If he turns down a shot, you take him out

737
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Speaker 1: of the game. How do you think Nevada will fair

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Speaker 1: against USC and Arizona State. I'm fascinated this Nevada team.

739
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Speaker 1: You know, all their starters are twenty two years older

740
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Speaker 1: or older. The twins are twenty three and a half

741
00:40:54,440 --> 00:40:58,200
Speaker 1: years old. Um, they're an old, mature team. And I

742
00:40:58,239 --> 00:41:01,160
Speaker 1: think Jordan Cornette their best cole edge basketball players six

743
00:41:01,200 --> 00:41:05,839
Speaker 1: four or six five. Dad Simeon Rice, he competes, they

744
00:41:05,840 --> 00:41:09,239
Speaker 1: play him as an undersized five. At times he's phenomenal.

745
00:41:09,920 --> 00:41:13,120
Speaker 1: And then you have Cody and Caleb. Caleb. Cody feels

746
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Speaker 1: like he's improved more than Caleb, but Caleb is a

747
00:41:15,800 --> 00:41:18,120
Speaker 1: better offensive player, a better shooter, Cody does all the

748
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Speaker 1: other little things. How they fare against USC, I just

749
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Speaker 1: think they're tougher, older, more mature than USC. Remember USC

750
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Speaker 1: lost their four year starter at point guard, and they

751
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Speaker 1: lost JAMESI met to, who defended the rim. And you know,

752
00:41:31,760 --> 00:41:34,960
Speaker 1: boat ride doesn't look right to me just yet. And

753
00:41:35,120 --> 00:41:37,200
Speaker 1: while USC has a lot of talent, like I think

754
00:41:37,239 --> 00:41:40,920
Speaker 1: Nevada's age and grit and experience, I think they bats

755
00:41:41,080 --> 00:41:43,000
Speaker 1: Arizona State is interesting because I think Arizona State is

756
00:41:43,040 --> 00:41:45,160
Speaker 1: going to climb into him. They might be a little

757
00:41:45,160 --> 00:41:49,719
Speaker 1: bit too fast and athletic, but they're also going to

758
00:41:49,800 --> 00:41:52,680
Speaker 1: be far younger than Nevada. Wouldn't stunned to see Nevada

759
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Speaker 1: be both those teams. All right, quickly, let me give

760
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Speaker 1: you a couple of things on teams that I've seen

761
00:41:57,680 --> 00:42:00,600
Speaker 1: this year in college basketball. Let's start kind of at

762
00:42:00,640 --> 00:42:03,919
Speaker 1: the top. A team that I've seen that I think

763
00:42:04,040 --> 00:42:08,839
Speaker 1: is super intriguing is the University of Texas. So when

764
00:42:08,840 --> 00:42:11,480
Speaker 1: I saw Texas, it was in North it was against

765
00:42:11,520 --> 00:42:14,960
Speaker 1: North Carolina and against Michigan State. Against Michigan State, they

766
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Speaker 1: had a huge halftime lead and they're playing well. They're

767
00:42:19,160 --> 00:42:23,319
Speaker 1: up nineteen points eight minutes in the game, and of

768
00:42:23,320 --> 00:42:26,799
Speaker 1: course Michigan State came storming back. And and my thought

769
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Speaker 1: on Texas is this, they have figured out that uh

770
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Speaker 1: La Kerwin Roach was so good against North Carolina, and

771
00:42:36,160 --> 00:42:38,440
Speaker 1: they have you know, they have some shooters. They have

772
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Speaker 1: the freshman Jackson Hayes, who has given them big minutes.

773
00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:46,960
Speaker 1: I think they figured out that Dylan asad Kowski, while

774
00:42:47,080 --> 00:42:52,160
Speaker 1: a super effective offensive player, obviously doesn't make them long defensively.

775
00:42:52,760 --> 00:42:55,279
Speaker 1: But I love that they've They've changed some of the

776
00:42:55,280 --> 00:42:58,520
Speaker 1: stuff they've run. They spread you way way out and

777
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Speaker 1: if they're making shots, and again against Michigan State they're

778
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Speaker 1: only nine of thirty four. Their performance against Michigan State

779
00:43:04,719 --> 00:43:07,360
Speaker 1: was part of it is the if you've seen Sparty

780
00:43:07,360 --> 00:43:10,640
Speaker 1: in person, those guys are incredibly built. You know, they

781
00:43:10,760 --> 00:43:13,520
Speaker 1: just feels like a group of men, as opposed to Texas,

782
00:43:13,600 --> 00:43:18,880
Speaker 1: which feels like several boys, you know, and they're struggling

783
00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:22,080
Speaker 1: to find a role for Jericho Sims. I thought starting

784
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:25,200
Speaker 1: Matt Coleman was smart, But you know, Coleman, there's a

785
00:43:25,239 --> 00:43:27,440
Speaker 1: reason that he's volleyed in and now that starting line

786
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:29,839
Speaker 1: up just because he's not really a one, not really

787
00:43:29,840 --> 00:43:32,120
Speaker 1: a two, doesn't shoot it as well as you'd like.

788
00:43:32,800 --> 00:43:36,319
Speaker 1: I still think though the Texas this is this is

789
00:43:36,320 --> 00:43:39,560
Speaker 1: potentially a second weekend team. They just have They have

790
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,960
Speaker 1: the type of length and athleticism a few teams have.

791
00:43:42,440 --> 00:43:46,400
Speaker 1: They also have enough depth of older players, especially Ostenkowski,

792
00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:50,160
Speaker 1: Kerwin Roach who mentioned Coleman playing you know last year. Um,

793
00:43:50,360 --> 00:43:54,759
Speaker 1: do I think they're perfect? No? No, But if the

794
00:43:54,760 --> 00:43:57,399
Speaker 1: word is get old, If if we talk about get old,

795
00:43:57,440 --> 00:43:59,959
Speaker 1: stay old, that's a team that gets old stays old.

796
00:44:00,480 --> 00:44:02,319
Speaker 1: The same is true for Nevada. I got a chance

797
00:44:02,400 --> 00:44:07,720
Speaker 1: to really study Nevada, and what I like is they're old,

798
00:44:08,160 --> 00:44:11,480
Speaker 1: you know, and they know for the most part, they

799
00:44:11,520 --> 00:44:14,560
Speaker 1: know who they are. You know, they they know that,

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Speaker 1: uh you know, Kayla Martin kind of is there one

801
00:44:18,040 --> 00:44:20,600
Speaker 1: shot creator a guy who can pass and who can

802
00:44:20,640 --> 00:44:22,680
Speaker 1: score and who you paid a lot of attention to.

803
00:44:23,480 --> 00:44:25,320
Speaker 1: And you know they bring Jazz Johnson and whether he

804
00:44:25,360 --> 00:44:27,880
Speaker 1: starts it comes off the bench. Um, he's kind of

805
00:44:27,960 --> 00:44:30,520
Speaker 1: lightning in a bottle. He's he's there, They're they're vinny

806
00:44:30,640 --> 00:44:34,160
Speaker 1: jumps and they're microwave oven. He's older as well. You know.

807
00:44:34,280 --> 00:44:36,600
Speaker 1: Then you got Jordan Caroline who's like, he's like twenty

808
00:44:36,600 --> 00:44:38,759
Speaker 1: two and they played Jordan Caroline. He's best when he's

809
00:44:38,800 --> 00:44:41,480
Speaker 1: at the five, but when he's at the four. Nowllison,

810
00:44:41,560 --> 00:44:45,160
Speaker 1: they bring in, they start Trey Porter, who's got ridiculous length. Also,

811
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Speaker 1: he's in his fifth year in college. George Mason too.

812
00:44:48,320 --> 00:44:53,880
Speaker 1: O d you to to Nevada, And you know, so defensively,

813
00:44:54,239 --> 00:44:57,960
Speaker 1: they're just so much thicker, so much older, so much smarter,

814
00:44:59,080 --> 00:45:02,360
Speaker 1: and they do have, you know, some some new found

815
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Speaker 1: depth with a Corey Henson who can come in and shoot,

816
00:45:05,440 --> 00:45:08,320
Speaker 1: a Jordan Brown, the freshman who can defend the rim

817
00:45:08,400 --> 00:45:11,239
Speaker 1: um that I like their team a lot, like I

818
00:45:11,520 --> 00:45:14,960
Speaker 1: put them as my fourth final four team on our

819
00:45:15,000 --> 00:45:18,520
Speaker 1: Fox Sports Twitter handle. I can't figure out who that

820
00:45:18,560 --> 00:45:21,080
Speaker 1: fourth team is Gonzaga, Kansas, Duke to me or the

821
00:45:21,440 --> 00:45:24,520
Speaker 1: three elite teams in the country. And I think there's

822
00:45:24,520 --> 00:45:27,440
Speaker 1: a bunch of Michigan now would probably be in in Chase.

823
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Speaker 1: But the thing, now, the thing about Kala Martin is.

824
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Speaker 1: He does shoot the basketball like Lonzo Ball, where he

825
00:45:34,000 --> 00:45:36,000
Speaker 1: can kind of only shoot it out of his left

826
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Speaker 1: hand because the ball comes to the middle of his

827
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Speaker 1: forehead and he kicks out his foot. He's not a

828
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Speaker 1: great shooter. He's a volume guy. Um. Jazz Johnson's there

829
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Speaker 1: one what I would say is kind of electric three

830
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Speaker 1: point shooter. I think Corty Martin has probably improved more

831
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Speaker 1: than his brother. There's some limitations there. He's not really

832
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Speaker 1: a three point shooter, and he's not as much of

833
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Speaker 1: a creator. He's more of a point power forward. But

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Speaker 1: he might be their best, you know, ball handler. Um,

835
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Speaker 1: and I'm interested to see what when they played like

836
00:46:02,840 --> 00:46:05,759
Speaker 1: an Arizona State with small athletic guards to get after him.

837
00:46:05,760 --> 00:46:08,200
Speaker 1: How how they play seeing his last year Sandego State

838
00:46:08,239 --> 00:46:10,440
Speaker 1: beat him that way. And then Trey Sean Thurman, who

839
00:46:10,480 --> 00:46:12,680
Speaker 1: can step out a little bit, he can score this

840
00:46:12,760 --> 00:46:14,920
Speaker 1: back to the basket. He's he's one of the he

841
00:46:15,000 --> 00:46:17,479
Speaker 1: might be their their worst athlete, but he's a really

842
00:46:17,480 --> 00:46:20,480
Speaker 1: good basketball player. So you throw out a starting line

843
00:46:20,520 --> 00:46:23,040
Speaker 1: up where everybody's at least twenty two years old, and

844
00:46:23,080 --> 00:46:25,280
Speaker 1: then the only youngster you bring in is Jordan Brown.

845
00:46:26,600 --> 00:46:29,319
Speaker 1: That's a really hard team to compete against. And while

846
00:46:29,840 --> 00:46:34,200
Speaker 1: my initial thought was and watched them the first night

847
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:36,959
Speaker 1: I watched him Kayla Martin was really selfish. The second

848
00:46:37,040 --> 00:46:38,600
Speaker 1: night he was the m v P of the third

849
00:46:38,600 --> 00:46:41,799
Speaker 1: place game and or know as the championship game of

850
00:46:41,840 --> 00:46:44,560
Speaker 1: the other side of the Las Vegas Invitational. And so

851
00:46:44,560 --> 00:46:46,600
Speaker 1: when I watched him, I talked to him afterwards. He

852
00:46:46,680 --> 00:46:48,279
Speaker 1: was like, look, I took bad shots and I just

853
00:46:48,320 --> 00:46:50,560
Speaker 1: had to take better shots and play better basketball. So

854
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:52,680
Speaker 1: it's not that he doesn't have a little bit of

855
00:46:52,719 --> 00:46:54,960
Speaker 1: a selfish gene in him. It's that at least he

856
00:46:55,040 --> 00:46:58,000
Speaker 1: has the knowledge of, hey, I'm playing selfishly, I gotta

857
00:46:58,120 --> 00:47:02,200
Speaker 1: change things. So I like Nevada, I don't I look

858
00:47:02,239 --> 00:47:05,400
Speaker 1: around that league and you know, UNLV gets beat by

859
00:47:05,480 --> 00:47:09,080
Speaker 1: valpo Um. I think Sandy State's good but not great.

860
00:47:09,600 --> 00:47:11,439
Speaker 1: New Mexico is not back yet. It's not that they're

861
00:47:11,440 --> 00:47:13,160
Speaker 1: going to run through that league and be undefeated. It's

862
00:47:13,160 --> 00:47:14,840
Speaker 1: a hard league to play in because of all the

863
00:47:14,840 --> 00:47:17,760
Speaker 1: altitude you go and play in, even place like Nevada

864
00:47:18,000 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 1: and and the road trips. And I think Colorado State's

865
00:47:19,920 --> 00:47:23,600
Speaker 1: gonna be pretty good. Um Nico Medvedev is a really

866
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:25,319
Speaker 1: good coach and I think a nice fit for what

867
00:47:25,400 --> 00:47:28,160
Speaker 1: CSU wants to do in the future. So it's not

868
00:47:28,200 --> 00:47:30,439
Speaker 1: like they're gonna go undefeated, but they're gonna win their league.

869
00:47:30,440 --> 00:47:33,120
Speaker 1: They're gonna get a good seed, and they do have experience.

870
00:47:33,120 --> 00:47:38,160
Speaker 1: And I know that sometimes we overreact to a couple

871
00:47:38,200 --> 00:47:39,759
Speaker 1: of wins in the tournament. You know, they were they

872
00:47:39,760 --> 00:47:43,120
Speaker 1: were down big in both of those games, and so

873
00:47:43,320 --> 00:47:46,240
Speaker 1: we become kind of result or instead of process oriented.

874
00:47:46,280 --> 00:47:48,279
Speaker 1: I'm just telling you based upon the process, Like, that's

875
00:47:48,280 --> 00:47:52,319
Speaker 1: a really good older team that at least now, at

876
00:47:52,360 --> 00:47:55,400
Speaker 1: least now, Eric Musselman has buying into guys. You know,

877
00:47:55,440 --> 00:47:58,760
Speaker 1: with the exception of Martin Twins and Jordan Caroline, nobody's

878
00:47:58,800 --> 00:48:01,520
Speaker 1: playing over five minutes a game. That's hard to do.

879
00:48:01,960 --> 00:48:03,520
Speaker 1: It's hard to get a trade porter. Who hey, man,

880
00:48:03,560 --> 00:48:05,360
Speaker 1: this is your last year of college basketball, leave o

881
00:48:05,480 --> 00:48:07,279
Speaker 1: to you, and you're only playing eighteen minutes a game.

882
00:48:07,719 --> 00:48:10,920
Speaker 1: I think those increase, but I think his management of

883
00:48:10,960 --> 00:48:13,759
Speaker 1: their minutes, while it will help them if and when

884
00:48:13,760 --> 00:48:16,360
Speaker 1: they get a shot at the NBA, it's it is it.

885
00:48:16,960 --> 00:48:19,640
Speaker 1: I mean, guys just bitch and complain about playing time.

886
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:22,440
Speaker 1: That's what they do. The North Carolina think is interesting.

887
00:48:22,440 --> 00:48:24,680
Speaker 1: You know, at the time of this recording, we just

888
00:48:24,680 --> 00:48:29,120
Speaker 1: saw them get blown out by Michigan, and and part

889
00:48:29,120 --> 00:48:31,839
Speaker 1: of why they got blown out by Michigan, I think

890
00:48:32,000 --> 00:48:38,840
Speaker 1: is they're reluctant to kind of evolve defensively and matchup wise.

891
00:48:39,680 --> 00:48:41,680
Speaker 1: If you wonder why to see your little only plays

892
00:48:41,800 --> 00:48:43,720
Speaker 1: nineteen and a half minutes a game, watch him play

893
00:48:43,760 --> 00:48:45,960
Speaker 1: an entire game and you'll kind of understand why he's

894
00:48:46,000 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: an electric offensive player. But he he's also a guy

895
00:48:48,719 --> 00:48:50,960
Speaker 1: that thinks he's supposed to shoot every time he gets it.

896
00:48:51,520 --> 00:48:54,840
Speaker 1: And while he's the most talented in terms of NBA upside,

897
00:48:55,440 --> 00:48:57,879
Speaker 1: you know you have Luke May and Cameron Johnson, who

898
00:48:58,160 --> 00:49:01,520
Speaker 1: you know, they they've seen everything, they've done everything, and

899
00:49:02,040 --> 00:49:04,800
Speaker 1: they play the two positions that he wants to play.

900
00:49:04,960 --> 00:49:06,520
Speaker 1: I do think there's a role there to where you

901
00:49:06,520 --> 00:49:08,440
Speaker 1: can play the three of them together. They all shoot

902
00:49:08,440 --> 00:49:11,520
Speaker 1: it so well and they have at times um And

903
00:49:11,560 --> 00:49:13,120
Speaker 1: then you know the other issue they run into is

904
00:49:13,200 --> 00:49:17,000
Speaker 1: Kobe White, who scoring point guard? So who is going

905
00:49:17,040 --> 00:49:20,200
Speaker 1: to facilitate on that team. You know that you can

906
00:49:20,239 --> 00:49:23,560
Speaker 1: have a scoring point guard and you can have three

907
00:49:23,560 --> 00:49:25,560
Speaker 1: and four men who all can shoot and score. You

908
00:49:25,560 --> 00:49:29,520
Speaker 1: can spread it out and really be incredible offensively, but

909
00:49:29,800 --> 00:49:32,800
Speaker 1: one who's the facilitator on that team. It don't really

910
00:49:33,360 --> 00:49:36,480
Speaker 1: naturally have one. And that's kind of the opposite of

911
00:49:36,480 --> 00:49:39,400
Speaker 1: how Roy Williams has always rolled. He usually usually has

912
00:49:39,400 --> 00:49:42,719
Speaker 1: a facilitating point guard or facilitating combo guard to go

913
00:49:42,760 --> 00:49:47,439
Speaker 1: with this point guard and two Um, who of those

914
00:49:47,440 --> 00:49:51,040
Speaker 1: guys is gonna lock down defensively? Right like Cameron kind

915
00:49:51,040 --> 00:49:54,080
Speaker 1: of a finesse player, Luke may just not athletic enough

916
00:49:54,120 --> 00:49:56,959
Speaker 1: to keep up with with great athletes defensively, a sere

917
00:49:57,040 --> 00:50:01,239
Speaker 1: little a freshman offensive minded guy Kobe. It's quick, but

918
00:50:01,360 --> 00:50:03,359
Speaker 1: he's if he's not making any shots, he doesn't buy

919
00:50:03,400 --> 00:50:07,640
Speaker 1: in defensively. Like that's a really talented team, but not

920
00:50:07,840 --> 00:50:12,719
Speaker 1: one that locks up defensively, and they don't facilitate. And

921
00:50:12,760 --> 00:50:15,840
Speaker 1: then there's also kind of a reluctance to to play

922
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:18,359
Speaker 1: as many guards, perimeter players and spread you out. They

923
00:50:18,360 --> 00:50:21,680
Speaker 1: still want to play the sterling manlies of the world

924
00:50:21,960 --> 00:50:24,839
Speaker 1: and look playing without I think seventh Woods could be

925
00:50:24,920 --> 00:50:27,759
Speaker 1: a guy who facilitates more. He could be that off

926
00:50:27,800 --> 00:50:30,320
Speaker 1: the ball guy. But now after missing a couple of

927
00:50:30,360 --> 00:50:32,400
Speaker 1: games with the concussion. Now, all of a sudden, you

928
00:50:32,520 --> 00:50:34,640
Speaker 1: you get a little bit boat raced in terms of

929
00:50:34,719 --> 00:50:36,759
Speaker 1: other guys getting minutes, and you gotta play catch up.

930
00:50:36,880 --> 00:50:40,759
Speaker 1: So I think Carolina, look, they're an nc A tournament team.

931
00:50:40,920 --> 00:50:43,080
Speaker 1: They have a lot They actually have a lot of skill,

932
00:50:43,760 --> 00:50:46,560
Speaker 1: and and I was concerned about the point composition. It's

933
00:50:46,600 --> 00:50:49,360
Speaker 1: not as much turnovers as as running the team. I

934
00:50:49,400 --> 00:50:51,520
Speaker 1: think they'll be okay. But in terms of competing for

935
00:50:51,520 --> 00:50:54,480
Speaker 1: a national championship, there's some fundamental flaws and how they're

936
00:50:54,480 --> 00:50:57,879
Speaker 1: constructed in that you got a lot of offensive minded

937
00:50:57,920 --> 00:51:00,520
Speaker 1: guys and not a lot of facilitators. And and to

938
00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,360
Speaker 1: this point, they haven't dug in defensively. In fairness to

939
00:51:03,400 --> 00:51:07,160
Speaker 1: Roy Williams teams, most of even his championship teams that

940
00:51:07,200 --> 00:51:09,520
Speaker 1: are loaded up with veteran town they don't lock in

941
00:51:09,560 --> 00:51:12,200
Speaker 1: and play really good defense till February. They just don't like.

942
00:51:12,280 --> 00:51:15,399
Speaker 1: He doesn't come out, you know, and and brow beat

943
00:51:15,440 --> 00:51:17,279
Speaker 1: him early. He lets him get up and down and

944
00:51:17,320 --> 00:51:19,840
Speaker 1: play take some losses they wouldn't normally take, and usually

945
00:51:19,880 --> 00:51:23,440
Speaker 1: like mid February, suddenly they start locking guys up. So

946
00:51:24,080 --> 00:51:26,320
Speaker 1: that's that, that's one thought and they just have a

947
00:51:26,360 --> 00:51:29,200
Speaker 1: lot more offensive firepower than other teams, even Virginia that

948
00:51:29,280 --> 00:51:32,880
Speaker 1: beat Maryland last night, like like they have some firepower

949
00:51:32,920 --> 00:51:36,439
Speaker 1: with Kyle Guy and and Hunter and Tides her own,

950
00:51:36,440 --> 00:51:38,600
Speaker 1: but not the type of firepower that North Carolina is

951
00:51:38,640 --> 00:51:40,640
Speaker 1: going to have in the second half of the season.

952
00:51:40,640 --> 00:51:42,960
Speaker 1: The question becomes when they stop anybody. I got a

953
00:51:43,000 --> 00:51:46,000
Speaker 1: chance to see you Mass in Matt McCall's second year,

954
00:51:46,719 --> 00:51:49,960
Speaker 1: and I like, I like the overall growth of what

955
00:51:50,320 --> 00:51:53,560
Speaker 1: he's doing there and what he's trying to do. Uh,

956
00:51:53,680 --> 00:51:56,600
Speaker 1: this is a U MASS team that they've won three

957
00:51:56,640 --> 00:51:59,520
Speaker 1: other last four. They did lose the Nevada and they

958
00:51:59,520 --> 00:52:01,719
Speaker 1: didn't play poorly, they just didn't match up when the Vada.

959
00:52:01,760 --> 00:52:05,000
Speaker 1: Nevada kind of hit everything they threw. But Luen Pipkins

960
00:52:05,080 --> 00:52:07,439
Speaker 1: is I don't know what he is, eight five nine,

961
00:52:07,600 --> 00:52:11,000
Speaker 1: just lightning in a bottle. Electric score. They have his kid,

962
00:52:11,080 --> 00:52:15,200
Speaker 1: Carl Pierre, who can really really shoot. Sophomore he he

963
00:52:15,280 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: was the nation's leading freshman three point shooter UM And

964
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:22,160
Speaker 1: they also have Curtis Cobb, who is a transfer from Fairfield.

965
00:52:22,239 --> 00:52:24,840
Speaker 1: He's the one with a creepy eyes tattoo. Go ahead

966
00:52:24,840 --> 00:52:28,279
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967
00:52:28,280 --> 00:52:29,920
Speaker 1: a T shirt down when he's in Fairfield. He used

968
00:52:29,920 --> 00:52:31,520
Speaker 1: to let it let him hang and it was weird.

969
00:52:31,560 --> 00:52:35,120
Speaker 1: But plenty of firepower. Question with them is going to

970
00:52:35,120 --> 00:52:38,160
Speaker 1: be defense and they got to develop around you know,

971
00:52:38,160 --> 00:52:42,480
Speaker 1: they're they're two big guys. One is said Chapman, who

972
00:52:42,800 --> 00:52:46,800
Speaker 1: is a freshman from Minnesota and he played high school

973
00:52:46,800 --> 00:52:50,160
Speaker 1: basketball with Trey Jones, the point guarded duke. He's only

974
00:52:50,239 --> 00:52:52,719
Speaker 1: eighteen years old, very very young. I don't know if

975
00:52:52,719 --> 00:52:55,160
Speaker 1: you can win with that young of a of a

976
00:52:55,280 --> 00:52:57,960
Speaker 1: center right now, but you never know. In the eight ten,

977
00:52:58,000 --> 00:53:01,719
Speaker 1: they're just they're very offensive minded team that's kind of searching,

978
00:53:02,239 --> 00:53:06,320
Speaker 1: searching for a rim protector because they start Rashan Holloway,

979
00:53:06,400 --> 00:53:09,279
Speaker 1: who's six eleven listened at three ten. I think he's

980
00:53:09,280 --> 00:53:12,800
Speaker 1: closer to three sixty and he can only play limited minutes.

981
00:53:13,120 --> 00:53:15,480
Speaker 1: But but look, UMSS is an interesting team with with

982
00:53:15,520 --> 00:53:17,680
Speaker 1: all that firepower they have offensively, and I do think

983
00:53:17,760 --> 00:53:21,040
Speaker 1: McCall has made the proper in roads and recruiting that

984
00:53:21,719 --> 00:53:24,600
Speaker 1: they're never gonna be what John Calipari had him. But

985
00:53:24,920 --> 00:53:27,800
Speaker 1: considering the A ten is searching for a leader searching

986
00:53:27,800 --> 00:53:30,480
Speaker 1: for a team that could make a run. They play

987
00:53:30,520 --> 00:53:34,040
Speaker 1: at such a furious pace and have so many different

988
00:53:34,040 --> 00:53:36,800
Speaker 1: shot makers. It wouldn't stun me if they're a team

989
00:53:36,800 --> 00:53:39,680
Speaker 1: that you know they finished somewhere in the second to

990
00:53:39,719 --> 00:53:42,520
Speaker 1: fourth in league, but then they win the conference tournament

991
00:53:42,520 --> 00:53:45,280
Speaker 1: because they have we have they have so much firepower.

992
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Speaker 1: slit of college basketball games. Um, Casey, could duke had

1015
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:07,160
Speaker 1: beaten any of your NBA teams? Absolutely now, we were

1016
00:55:07,200 --> 00:55:09,760
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1017
00:55:09,840 --> 00:55:14,279
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1018
00:55:14,360 --> 00:55:18,479
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1019
00:55:18,520 --> 00:55:21,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I don't here's what I don't like. Look,

1020
00:55:21,640 --> 00:55:25,319
Speaker 1: I've worked with Ja and Jay Williams. I was. I

1021
00:55:25,360 --> 00:55:29,120
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1022
00:55:29,160 --> 00:55:32,040
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1023
00:55:32,160 --> 00:55:36,799
Speaker 1: right had him Boozer, do Han done Levy whom I

1024
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1025
00:55:40,960 --> 00:55:44,440
Speaker 1: Shane Battier Right, and he was the best player, and

1026
00:55:44,480 --> 00:55:46,440
Speaker 1: you look at how even he struggled when he went

1027
00:55:46,480 --> 00:55:49,000
Speaker 1: to the NBA playing on a bad Chicago Bulls team,

1028
00:55:49,320 --> 00:55:51,920
Speaker 1: and you understand the difference in level of competition, the

1029
00:55:51,960 --> 00:55:55,279
Speaker 1: difference in men versus boys and the like. When you're

1030
00:55:55,360 --> 00:55:58,520
Speaker 1: in college basketball, you might have three to five future

1031
00:55:58,600 --> 00:56:01,800
Speaker 1: NBA players, as opposed in the NBA, you got fifteen

1032
00:56:01,960 --> 00:56:04,319
Speaker 1: NBA players Like I just I don't understand why. I

1033
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,720
Speaker 1: understand why a writer might say that. I don't understand

1034
00:56:06,719 --> 00:56:09,000
Speaker 1: why a former player would say that you're right and

1035
00:56:09,520 --> 00:56:11,440
Speaker 1: is a good friend of ours. I mean, Jay is

1036
00:56:11,480 --> 00:56:12,920
Speaker 1: a pier of mine. We were in the McDonald's All

1037
00:56:12,920 --> 00:56:16,520
Speaker 1: American Game together. Uh, we competed. I competed against that

1038
00:56:16,600 --> 00:56:18,400
Speaker 1: Duke team that you mentioned, that one the national title.

1039
00:56:18,440 --> 00:56:22,359
Speaker 1: We beat them in December of that year. You're right, Uh,

1040
00:56:22,400 --> 00:56:24,439
Speaker 1: It's it's different when it comes from a journalism somebody

1041
00:56:24,480 --> 00:56:27,000
Speaker 1: who's never played at any level before. But for somebody

1042
00:56:27,000 --> 00:56:29,239
Speaker 1: like that to say it's a dumb argument. To me,

1043
00:56:29,520 --> 00:56:34,040
Speaker 1: the biggest thing, doug Um is the bigs in the NBA.

1044
00:56:34,320 --> 00:56:37,600
Speaker 1: To me, that that's where I mean. Of course, I

1045
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:40,400
Speaker 1: was a twenty two point per game scorer in college.

1046
00:56:40,400 --> 00:56:42,399
Speaker 1: I led the pack twelve pack ten at the time

1047
00:56:42,440 --> 00:56:44,400
Speaker 1: and scoring, and then I go to the NBA and

1048
00:56:44,440 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: average five and I'm, you know, seventh or eighth man

1049
00:56:47,040 --> 00:56:49,640
Speaker 1: off the bench, and one of the hardest things to

1050
00:56:49,680 --> 00:56:52,560
Speaker 1: do was to create my own shots. But also if

1051
00:56:52,560 --> 00:56:54,960
Speaker 1: I ever got to drive into the lane to finish

1052
00:56:55,120 --> 00:56:59,880
Speaker 1: against elite and we're talking of human boom as a

1053
00:57:00,040 --> 00:57:03,840
Speaker 1: species at the NBA level, to me is the biggest difference.

1054
00:57:03,840 --> 00:57:06,680
Speaker 1: So will Zion Williamson be fantastic in the NBA, Yes

1055
00:57:06,760 --> 00:57:09,160
Speaker 1: you will. We will r J. Barrett be fantastic in

1056
00:57:09,200 --> 00:57:11,719
Speaker 1: the NBA, I believe so. But Para Mariners might be

1057
00:57:11,800 --> 00:57:14,040
Speaker 1: just an average guy. And then who else is Like

1058
00:57:14,360 --> 00:57:16,280
Speaker 1: Trey Jones is a really good player, I don't know

1059
00:57:16,320 --> 00:57:17,840
Speaker 1: if you're gonna be a good NBA player. If he

1060
00:57:18,160 --> 00:57:20,680
Speaker 1: would be a starter ever in his career, and you're

1061
00:57:20,720 --> 00:57:24,520
Speaker 1: talking about twelve U NBA team with twelve players versus

1062
00:57:24,960 --> 00:57:28,120
Speaker 1: a duke team that has two bona fide NBA players

1063
00:57:28,200 --> 00:57:31,280
Speaker 1: and maybe a couple of other fringe players, they'd get smashed.

1064
00:57:32,040 --> 00:57:35,520
Speaker 1: They would they would get smashed. Um, Okay, So r J.

1065
00:57:35,680 --> 00:57:38,760
Speaker 1: Barrett or Zion Williamson, you have the number one draft pick,

1066
00:57:38,800 --> 00:57:40,840
Speaker 1: who do you take? In a way, this is a

1067
00:57:40,880 --> 00:57:42,840
Speaker 1: great debate. I love it so R J. Bartt is

1068
00:57:42,880 --> 00:57:46,320
Speaker 1: the more complete players. To me, he is the safer

1069
00:57:46,800 --> 00:57:51,040
Speaker 1: um pick Um. But let me say this, I would

1070
00:57:51,040 --> 00:57:54,840
Speaker 1: take Zion Williamson my own with the number one pick

1071
00:57:54,960 --> 00:57:57,240
Speaker 1: if you can guarantee me this, Doug, and it's a

1072
00:57:57,240 --> 00:58:01,440
Speaker 1: big guarantee. His weight right now is not an issue.

1073
00:58:01,520 --> 00:58:03,600
Speaker 1: He is a eighteen or nineteen year old young man

1074
00:58:03,720 --> 00:58:05,520
Speaker 1: and it might not be an issue for three or

1075
00:58:05,560 --> 00:58:08,400
Speaker 1: four more years. But you can't tell me that if

1076
00:58:08,440 --> 00:58:11,480
Speaker 1: he doesn't take care of himself, that when he's twenty

1077
00:58:11,560 --> 00:58:14,240
Speaker 1: six or twenty seven and he goes up for a

1078
00:58:14,360 --> 00:58:16,680
Speaker 1: dunk and he's got you know, of wear and tear

1079
00:58:16,760 --> 00:58:19,240
Speaker 1: over years of playing basketball, that he doesn't tweak a

1080
00:58:19,280 --> 00:58:21,880
Speaker 1: knee or tweak an ankle or break something, and then

1081
00:58:21,880 --> 00:58:24,880
Speaker 1: he is not the same. His game is so much

1082
00:58:25,000 --> 00:58:29,680
Speaker 1: reliant on his power, explosiveness and athleticism, and it is

1083
00:58:29,760 --> 00:58:33,280
Speaker 1: marvelous to watch. But I just wonder if his body

1084
00:58:33,320 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 1: weight at two d seventy five two highty pounds whatever

1085
00:58:36,000 --> 00:58:39,000
Speaker 1: he is, can hold up over the length of an

1086
00:58:39,080 --> 00:58:42,479
Speaker 1: NBA season, like Lebron, what he's done with his body

1087
00:58:42,600 --> 00:58:46,400
Speaker 1: is pretty remarkable. He's as disciplined as anybody we've ever seen.

1088
00:58:46,840 --> 00:58:48,920
Speaker 1: If you can tell me that Zion will drop some

1089
00:58:48,960 --> 00:58:52,040
Speaker 1: weight and be disciplined and keeping a healthy weight, then

1090
00:58:52,080 --> 00:58:55,439
Speaker 1: I think about taking Zion. But I don't think that's

1091
00:58:55,480 --> 00:58:57,760
Speaker 1: the case. I would take r J Barrett. Here's my

1092
00:58:57,840 --> 00:59:01,760
Speaker 1: thing with Barrett, and a little bit of it is

1093
00:59:01,760 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 1: is confirmation bias what I thought and what NBA scouts

1094
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:08,400
Speaker 1: have told me, which is like, I understand that Mikesachevski

1095
00:59:08,480 --> 00:59:11,400
Speaker 1: is coming out super defensive about r J and you know,

1096
00:59:11,480 --> 00:59:14,600
Speaker 1: playing hero ball, but he was playing hero ball, right.

1097
00:59:14,640 --> 00:59:17,880
Speaker 1: It was selfish and it was and look, he's he's

1098
00:59:17,960 --> 00:59:21,960
Speaker 1: one at every level up until now, but it it

1099
00:59:22,040 --> 00:59:25,640
Speaker 1: wasn't working against Gonzaga. And I think that my fear

1100
00:59:25,680 --> 00:59:29,600
Speaker 1: about r J Barrett is this. He He's always been

1101
00:59:29,640 --> 00:59:32,120
Speaker 1: the best player. He's always been the alpha. He's always

1102
00:59:32,120 --> 00:59:33,680
Speaker 1: been the guy who's going to have the ball in

1103
00:59:33,720 --> 00:59:36,680
Speaker 1: his hands at the end of the game. And one

1104
00:59:37,240 --> 00:59:39,240
Speaker 1: I do think there are moments with this duke team

1105
00:59:39,320 --> 00:59:42,360
Speaker 1: which he's got to get off the basketball too. I'm

1106
00:59:42,400 --> 00:59:44,040
Speaker 1: not I don't think he shoots it well enough and

1107
00:59:44,040 --> 00:59:46,040
Speaker 1: I'm not sure he will shooting it well enough to

1108
00:59:46,200 --> 00:59:49,240
Speaker 1: be that guy, or he's explosive an athlete enough to

1109
00:59:49,480 --> 00:59:52,800
Speaker 1: be that guy at the next level. And so if

1110
00:59:52,840 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: he's not the go to guy he's there's this, he'll

1111
00:59:57,600 --> 01:00:00,640
Speaker 1: he'll really struggle. He'll struggle emotionally, he'll ruggle in terms

1112
01:00:00,640 --> 01:00:04,840
Speaker 1: of fitting in uh to a team, whereas Zion is

1113
01:00:05,640 --> 01:00:08,080
Speaker 1: um I think doing a great job of not being

1114
01:00:08,120 --> 01:00:10,400
Speaker 1: the go to guy. I agree with you that he's

1115
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:13,400
Speaker 1: he's a unicorn. No one's ever seen anything like this before.

1116
01:00:14,000 --> 01:00:15,600
Speaker 1: And you know, we're all trying to say, well, he's

1117
01:00:15,640 --> 01:00:18,040
Speaker 1: Barkley if Barkley was like he's not like Barkley six

1118
01:00:18,040 --> 01:00:20,200
Speaker 1: four and a half, this kid six five and a half,

1119
01:00:20,600 --> 01:00:23,800
Speaker 1: and but Barkley was never two pounds and he's like

1120
01:00:23,800 --> 01:00:27,400
Speaker 1: a cut to five. Like just so thick. I'm with you, Mike, Mike,

1121
01:00:27,680 --> 01:00:30,960
Speaker 1: I would I would hire I would hire people to

1122
01:00:31,000 --> 01:00:33,120
Speaker 1: surround him, have him have a chef, have him have

1123
01:00:33,200 --> 01:00:35,440
Speaker 1: a trainer. This is a you know you and I

1124
01:00:35,480 --> 01:00:37,720
Speaker 1: talked about this with other guys. I would you know

1125
01:00:37,760 --> 01:00:39,960
Speaker 1: it with Joel Embiid. I would do the exact same thing.

1126
01:00:40,000 --> 01:00:42,000
Speaker 1: Invest in him now as soon as you draft him,

1127
01:00:42,320 --> 01:00:44,760
Speaker 1: so that it becomes a complete lifestyle change, which he's

1128
01:00:44,760 --> 01:00:47,520
Speaker 1: already started to make. But I'm not sure that Barrett

1129
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,800
Speaker 1: Barrett has if he can continue to develop as an

1130
01:00:50,800 --> 01:00:53,840
Speaker 1: athlete as a shooter, maybe, But I would actually take

1131
01:00:53,920 --> 01:00:57,320
Speaker 1: Zion just because he might actually be the safer play

1132
01:00:57,400 --> 01:00:59,960
Speaker 1: injuries and body type, not with any because he's show

1133
01:01:00,000 --> 01:01:02,680
Speaker 1: on the ability to not be the alpha with the

1134
01:01:02,720 --> 01:01:04,520
Speaker 1: ball in his hands, whereas r. J. Barrett does not

1135
01:01:04,880 --> 01:01:08,920
Speaker 1: appear to have that in his makeup. Well, we're splitting here,

1136
01:01:08,960 --> 01:01:13,080
Speaker 1: you know, I think we agree a bit. Um. I

1137
01:01:13,200 --> 01:01:16,840
Speaker 1: disagree with you and the fact that MARJ Barrett was

1138
01:01:16,840 --> 01:01:18,720
Speaker 1: playing hero ball at the end of the Gonzaga game,

1139
01:01:18,800 --> 01:01:21,040
Speaker 1: but I was okay with it. He is a better

1140
01:01:21,200 --> 01:01:24,760
Speaker 1: creator if he's willing to make the right play. Then

1141
01:01:24,880 --> 01:01:28,360
Speaker 1: Zion Williamson is from a one on one perspective because

1142
01:01:28,400 --> 01:01:31,160
Speaker 1: he can shoot. Now, he has struggles. He got through

1143
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: a really nice start shooting the ball. But r J.

1144
01:01:33,240 --> 01:01:36,560
Speaker 1: Bartt is a better three point shooter than lately, Um,

1145
01:01:36,880 --> 01:01:40,160
Speaker 1: than his numbers indicate, no question, And all these traestions

1146
01:01:40,160 --> 01:01:42,120
Speaker 1: will get But but here's the thing. Well, I agree

1147
01:01:42,160 --> 01:01:45,840
Speaker 1: with you. He can facilitate. He wasn't right. It was

1148
01:01:45,880 --> 01:01:50,600
Speaker 1: like and and and Zion Zion and and Look, let's

1149
01:01:50,640 --> 01:01:53,480
Speaker 1: just also remember zions being guarded by college power forwards,

1150
01:01:53,560 --> 01:01:57,000
Speaker 1: college centers, which is which is this is what happened

1151
01:01:57,040 --> 01:01:59,880
Speaker 1: with Derrick Williams at Arizona. Right, everybody freaked out. Derek

1152
01:02:00,040 --> 01:02:03,080
Speaker 1: names to shooting numbers in Arizona, and Sean Miller was

1153
01:02:03,200 --> 01:02:05,360
Speaker 1: we're texting. I was like, dude, you haven't played the

1154
01:02:05,400 --> 01:02:07,920
Speaker 1: matching up with five. Of course he's gonna have. He's like,

1155
01:02:08,000 --> 01:02:10,240
Speaker 1: I know people think he's an NBA two or an

1156
01:02:10,280 --> 01:02:13,760
Speaker 1: NBA three, and there's no, he's not playing against two

1157
01:02:13,880 --> 01:02:16,920
Speaker 1: or three men. So I do agree understand that, and

1158
01:02:17,000 --> 01:02:21,120
Speaker 1: I agree with you that in in theory, in theory,

1159
01:02:21,360 --> 01:02:24,520
Speaker 1: m R J. Barrett should be a much better facilitator

1160
01:02:24,520 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: and creator, but he wasn't facilitating or creating for anybody

1161
01:02:27,040 --> 01:02:30,360
Speaker 1: else in that instance. Yeah, let's also remember that R. J.

1162
01:02:30,440 --> 01:02:33,080
Speaker 1: Barrett reclassified. He should be playing as a senior in

1163
01:02:33,160 --> 01:02:36,640
Speaker 1: high school right now. Um, so he's he's still young

1164
01:02:36,720 --> 01:02:41,400
Speaker 1: and learning. And that was his first, uh, major stage

1165
01:02:41,560 --> 01:02:43,880
Speaker 1: that he played on. I know he's played on USA

1166
01:02:43,920 --> 01:02:46,400
Speaker 1: basketball teams and been successful. He's been in Mcnonical American,

1167
01:02:46,440 --> 01:02:48,720
Speaker 1: but that was the first major game, it was number

1168
01:02:48,760 --> 01:02:52,040
Speaker 1: one versus number three on ESPN. Now he ever takes

1169
01:02:52,080 --> 01:02:55,680
Speaker 1: them for the premier nonconference tournament in the country. He

1170
01:02:55,720 --> 01:02:58,960
Speaker 1: wanted to make a name for himself. Let's not forget

1171
01:02:59,120 --> 01:03:01,960
Speaker 1: as well that Zion Williamson is so popular, he's a

1172
01:03:02,080 --> 01:03:04,240
Speaker 1: rock star, and you don't think that that has an

1173
01:03:04,240 --> 01:03:07,160
Speaker 1: effect on r J. Barrett always thinking to himself, I'm

1174
01:03:07,160 --> 01:03:09,560
Speaker 1: a better player. This is what r J Barrett plays things.

1175
01:03:09,600 --> 01:03:12,480
Speaker 1: I'm a better overall player. I'm I'm the projected number

1176
01:03:12,480 --> 01:03:15,200
Speaker 1: one Zick. So at the end of the game, I'm

1177
01:03:15,240 --> 01:03:18,160
Speaker 1: going to show that I'm the guy. I'm the one

1178
01:03:18,200 --> 01:03:20,640
Speaker 1: on one go to player for Duke, not Scion. I

1179
01:03:20,800 --> 01:03:23,840
Speaker 1: actually think that played a part. I'm not blaming our day. Look,

1180
01:03:24,120 --> 01:03:25,840
Speaker 1: I'd rather have a guy. I'd rather have the rain

1181
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:27,680
Speaker 1: of guy back like, hey man, you gotta you gotta

1182
01:03:27,760 --> 01:03:29,919
Speaker 1: stop having tunnel vision and see the rest of the floor,

1183
01:03:30,280 --> 01:03:33,360
Speaker 1: rather than have a guy who's too scared to take

1184
01:03:33,440 --> 01:03:35,840
Speaker 1: on that moment. That's it's a it's a very very

1185
01:03:36,080 --> 01:03:39,640
Speaker 1: very very fair point, absolutely fair point. Let's get to

1186
01:03:39,720 --> 01:03:42,439
Speaker 1: some of the games I've seen Creighton A bunch called

1187
01:03:42,440 --> 01:03:45,920
Speaker 1: three of their games, um and they win in in

1188
01:03:46,000 --> 01:03:49,040
Speaker 1: the Caymans. Now they have good they have Gonzaga coming in.

1189
01:03:49,480 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: Um and if you've seen Creighton, you know one. They're

1190
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,800
Speaker 1: incredible at home. Even though they lost earlier in the

1191
01:03:55,880 --> 01:03:59,360
Speaker 1: year to Ohise State. They play small ball Tyshan Alexander's

1192
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: their best play there. Um. I like this as uh

1193
01:04:03,360 --> 01:04:05,960
Speaker 1: Marcus Zagarowski, who's the freshman point guard. He comes in

1194
01:04:06,000 --> 01:04:09,360
Speaker 1: off the bench. I just I'm not sure that playing

1195
01:04:09,440 --> 01:04:12,919
Speaker 1: small ball against against Gonzaga ends up working out well

1196
01:04:12,960 --> 01:04:15,240
Speaker 1: for them. How do you think they match up against

1197
01:04:15,240 --> 01:04:19,600
Speaker 1: the Zags on Fox Ye not well. Um. That doesn't

1198
01:04:19,600 --> 01:04:21,280
Speaker 1: mean to say that Craton doesn't have a chance. They

1199
01:04:21,320 --> 01:04:23,680
Speaker 1: always have a chance at home. This is an offensive

1200
01:04:23,720 --> 01:04:25,919
Speaker 1: oriented team. It has been since to have a close

1201
01:04:25,920 --> 01:04:29,640
Speaker 1: breaking term he took over there Um. They they lost

1202
01:04:29,680 --> 01:04:32,000
Speaker 1: to Ohio State. Since then, the last four games they're

1203
01:04:32,000 --> 01:04:36,160
Speaker 1: on fire, duck shooting almost as an offense collectively, so

1204
01:04:36,200 --> 01:04:39,840
Speaker 1: they they're coming in confident. My issue with Crayton has

1205
01:04:39,880 --> 01:04:42,080
Speaker 1: always been and will be certainly in this game. Can

1206
01:04:42,120 --> 01:04:44,520
Speaker 1: they just send the rim? Can they just send inside

1207
01:04:44,520 --> 01:04:47,600
Speaker 1: the three point because Becazaga can do. They can beat

1208
01:04:47,600 --> 01:04:49,560
Speaker 1: you any which way you want. They can shoot from

1209
01:04:49,600 --> 01:04:52,760
Speaker 1: three with Josh Perkins and Zach norvell Um and even

1210
01:04:52,800 --> 01:04:55,320
Speaker 1: their bags can step out and scooted occasionally. But they're

1211
01:04:55,360 --> 01:04:58,480
Speaker 1: a very good team at driving, drawing, kicking um and

1212
01:04:58,560 --> 01:05:01,320
Speaker 1: they go down to the post. They isolate Ruey Hachimura,

1213
01:05:01,400 --> 01:05:05,520
Speaker 1: their Japanese forward at the high elbow area, really effective

1214
01:05:05,520 --> 01:05:09,120
Speaker 1: in the midpost, in the middle of the floor. Um,

1215
01:05:09,160 --> 01:05:12,760
Speaker 1: so can can Crayton, you know, defend the rim? Martine

1216
01:05:12,840 --> 01:05:16,400
Speaker 1: Crumpell is coming off of his third a c O injury,

1217
01:05:16,440 --> 01:05:18,680
Speaker 1: and he looked really good in their last game against

1218
01:05:18,800 --> 01:05:22,400
Speaker 1: Arlie Dickinson. He looks really good, but he's not nearly

1219
01:05:22,440 --> 01:05:24,720
Speaker 1: as explosive as he once was. And he's going against

1220
01:05:24,720 --> 01:05:28,360
Speaker 1: Brandon Clark and Ruey hash More now. So, um, if

1221
01:05:28,400 --> 01:05:31,360
Speaker 1: they can defend the rim, then they'll be able to run.

1222
01:05:31,440 --> 01:05:33,800
Speaker 1: Like you know how difficult it is for being a

1223
01:05:33,840 --> 01:05:36,200
Speaker 1: team that likes to push the tempo. If you're taking

1224
01:05:36,200 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: the ball out of the net, you're done. Craton is

1225
01:05:38,760 --> 01:05:42,120
Speaker 1: not the same offense in the half court. They're just not.

1226
01:05:42,240 --> 01:05:44,760
Speaker 1: Tayshon Alexander is stepping up as a go to guy,

1227
01:05:45,120 --> 01:05:47,200
Speaker 1: but they don't have guys that you know, just give

1228
01:05:47,280 --> 01:05:49,480
Speaker 1: them the ball and get out the way like Mark

1229
01:05:49,520 --> 01:05:52,040
Speaker 1: the Foster last year. They don't have that. All right,

1230
01:05:52,120 --> 01:05:55,160
Speaker 1: Let's go to Marquette Kansas State, another big game for

1231
01:05:55,200 --> 01:05:58,320
Speaker 1: the Big East at home Big He struggled somebodily in

1232
01:05:58,400 --> 01:06:01,520
Speaker 1: the matchup the Gaby games against the Big Ten. How

1233
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:04,360
Speaker 1: do you think they match up against K State? So?

1234
01:06:04,720 --> 01:06:08,600
Speaker 1: K State is a bona fide top fifteen team in

1235
01:06:08,640 --> 01:06:11,720
Speaker 1: the country. They returned all five starters from a team

1236
01:06:11,760 --> 01:06:13,840
Speaker 1: that made it to the Lead eight last year. So

1237
01:06:13,880 --> 01:06:16,520
Speaker 1: obviously big expectations for for kse Dy And they're known

1238
01:06:16,520 --> 01:06:18,000
Speaker 1: as a team that will just draw a line in

1239
01:06:18,040 --> 01:06:22,280
Speaker 1: the sands defensively and get after you. Darry Brown will

1240
01:06:22,320 --> 01:06:24,400
Speaker 1: just take the ball if you're not, you know, guarding

1241
01:06:24,400 --> 01:06:28,640
Speaker 1: it with two hands. Um. So Marquette to me, and

1242
01:06:28,680 --> 01:06:31,760
Speaker 1: we're gonna talk about this tomorrow on Fox. They gotta

1243
01:06:31,960 --> 01:06:34,960
Speaker 1: They've been telling their head Coacht Bohowski has They're like,

1244
01:06:35,200 --> 01:06:38,080
Speaker 1: we need to have a better defensive identity. Now. They're

1245
01:06:38,080 --> 01:06:40,320
Speaker 1: not going to be a top twenty five defensive team

1246
01:06:40,360 --> 01:06:43,280
Speaker 1: probably ever um as long as he's coaching, because he's

1247
01:06:43,360 --> 01:06:46,960
Speaker 1: more of an offensive guy. But they have to embrace

1248
01:06:47,480 --> 01:06:50,440
Speaker 1: the pace of this game, Doug, meaning they can't go

1249
01:06:50,480 --> 01:06:53,520
Speaker 1: in with the mentality that you were Marquette were at home.

1250
01:06:53,960 --> 01:06:56,240
Speaker 1: We like to school Bold, We're just going to outrun you.

1251
01:06:56,680 --> 01:06:59,360
Speaker 1: That is not gonna happen against KSE State. So they

1252
01:06:59,400 --> 01:07:01,760
Speaker 1: need to go on with the mindset all right, it

1253
01:07:01,880 --> 01:07:04,560
Speaker 1: might be a little bit slower and that's okay. How

1254
01:07:04,600 --> 01:07:08,680
Speaker 1: are we gonna manufacture shots for Marcus Howard, Marcus Howard

1255
01:07:08,720 --> 01:07:10,440
Speaker 1: and Sam Houser. How are we going to do that

1256
01:07:10,480 --> 01:07:13,760
Speaker 1: in the half court? If to me, the magic number

1257
01:07:13,880 --> 01:07:18,680
Speaker 1: is going to be whatever team can shoot over uh

1258
01:07:18,920 --> 01:07:20,680
Speaker 1: is going to win this game, that to me is

1259
01:07:20,720 --> 01:07:23,880
Speaker 1: more likely Marquette UM. And they're at home. So I

1260
01:07:23,920 --> 01:07:26,200
Speaker 1: think you're looking at an upset win right here. I

1261
01:07:26,200 --> 01:07:28,000
Speaker 1: think Marquete is gonna get this one. I I don't,

1262
01:07:28,280 --> 01:07:29,720
Speaker 1: I don't. I don't like to match up at all.

1263
01:07:29,840 --> 01:07:32,400
Speaker 1: You know, I've I've seen k stayed a ton um.

1264
01:07:32,440 --> 01:07:35,160
Speaker 1: You know Case State? Does you know they're They're two

1265
01:07:35,160 --> 01:07:37,080
Speaker 1: best players are Dean Wade and Barry Brown. Barry can

1266
01:07:37,120 --> 01:07:38,920
Speaker 1: give you a thirty at the college level and Dean

1267
01:07:38,960 --> 01:07:42,160
Speaker 1: Wade being kind of a face up big um. I

1268
01:07:42,160 --> 01:07:45,040
Speaker 1: actually think they match up really well with with Marquette,

1269
01:07:45,040 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: and that they'll play you know, four out, one in,

1270
01:07:47,600 --> 01:07:50,040
Speaker 1: and even their five men can be really really athletic.

1271
01:07:50,040 --> 01:07:53,120
Speaker 1: They can play both their guards Jara and Stokes together

1272
01:07:53,440 --> 01:07:56,840
Speaker 1: to match up with Marcus Howard and downshift and go small. UM.

1273
01:07:56,880 --> 01:08:01,600
Speaker 1: It's it's not what not what they traditionally like to do, UM,

1274
01:08:01,640 --> 01:08:03,400
Speaker 1: but it's something they will do. I also think kind

1275
01:08:03,440 --> 01:08:06,000
Speaker 1: of underrated is the fact that I one reason I

1276
01:08:06,040 --> 01:08:08,680
Speaker 1: wish I was doing this game Bruce Weber was my

1277
01:08:08,760 --> 01:08:12,320
Speaker 1: dad's manager at u W Milwaukee, and this game is

1278
01:08:12,320 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: can be played like two doors down from where they

1279
01:08:14,800 --> 01:08:17,120
Speaker 1: used to well they actually used to play on on campus,

1280
01:08:17,520 --> 01:08:20,559
Speaker 1: but you know, like five miles away anyway. I just

1281
01:08:20,800 --> 01:08:22,599
Speaker 1: that's a fact. I like k State, and I like Kate,

1282
01:08:22,920 --> 01:08:24,920
Speaker 1: and I like them. With this Marquette team, I just

1283
01:08:24,960 --> 01:08:27,840
Speaker 1: think that Marquette it's it's a lot like Creighton. They're

1284
01:08:27,840 --> 01:08:30,120
Speaker 1: gonna beat you on mismatches, and it's not a team

1285
01:08:30,120 --> 01:08:32,719
Speaker 1: that you can create the mismatches against. With this Kansas

1286
01:08:32,760 --> 01:08:35,400
Speaker 1: State team that plays four out or even no out. Uh,

1287
01:08:35,800 --> 01:08:39,639
Speaker 1: nobody in UM has Villanova fixed themselves with their tournament

1288
01:08:39,640 --> 01:08:44,040
Speaker 1: win or a nice bounce back. And I can't say

1289
01:08:44,040 --> 01:08:45,760
Speaker 1: that I'm not surprised I didn't pick them to win

1290
01:08:45,840 --> 01:08:49,000
Speaker 1: that game of the final game against Florida State about

1291
01:08:49,040 --> 01:08:53,679
Speaker 1: Florida States athleticism and defensive prowess, would would disrupt their

1292
01:08:53,720 --> 01:08:56,720
Speaker 1: backcourt film of his backcourt which has been pedestrian with

1293
01:08:56,840 --> 01:08:59,640
Speaker 1: Shoe Bruith and Coin Gillespie, So you know, I was

1294
01:09:00,400 --> 01:09:03,720
Speaker 1: Gilestie was amazing, probably the best offensive performance I've I've

1295
01:09:03,760 --> 01:09:05,439
Speaker 1: seen from him, and I don't think he missed his

1296
01:09:05,520 --> 01:09:09,719
Speaker 1: first seven shots in that game. Um, but Doug similar

1297
01:09:09,760 --> 01:09:12,479
Speaker 1: to like the Los Angeles Lakers, which you know, started

1298
01:09:12,479 --> 01:09:14,800
Speaker 1: out slowly and then won like five games in a row,

1299
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,920
Speaker 1: and he were like, all right, did they six? What? No,

1300
01:09:17,080 --> 01:09:18,920
Speaker 1: The Lakers have a big problem and they don't have

1301
01:09:18,960 --> 01:09:21,280
Speaker 1: any three point shooters on the bronze that that's a

1302
01:09:21,400 --> 01:09:27,120
Speaker 1: problem that doesn't get fixed. Villanova doesn't have NBA players

1303
01:09:27,120 --> 01:09:29,000
Speaker 1: on their team. They lost four of them, and they're

1304
01:09:29,000 --> 01:09:31,519
Speaker 1: not a team that reloads like Kentucky and Duke can

1305
01:09:31,640 --> 01:09:35,040
Speaker 1: sometimes even Kansas. They have a problem that's not sticks

1306
01:09:35,080 --> 01:09:37,960
Speaker 1: a bowl at the elite level. Will they be a

1307
01:09:38,080 --> 01:09:40,679
Speaker 1: top twenty five borderline team for most of the season.

1308
01:09:40,760 --> 01:09:43,840
Speaker 1: Probably they are not going to be an elite team

1309
01:09:43,840 --> 01:09:46,680
Speaker 1: because they don't have elite talents. I mean, they got

1310
01:09:46,680 --> 01:09:50,160
Speaker 1: a couple of dudes, and Eric Pascal has not taken

1311
01:09:50,160 --> 01:09:52,640
Speaker 1: the step that I thought he would this year, and

1312
01:09:52,680 --> 01:09:55,080
Speaker 1: so because of that, they are going to be good.

1313
01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,080
Speaker 1: They will out execute you, they will be tough. Um,

1314
01:09:58,120 --> 01:10:01,439
Speaker 1: but they have a problem can't be fixed over the

1315
01:10:01,479 --> 01:10:05,960
Speaker 1: course of a five month season. All right, let's let's

1316
01:10:06,000 --> 01:10:10,480
Speaker 1: let's get to a couple of a couple other quickies here. Um, Stanford,

1317
01:10:10,680 --> 01:10:13,479
Speaker 1: you're alma mater, taken on Kansas Yared has going back

1318
01:10:13,520 --> 01:10:17,720
Speaker 1: to a place he played his last two years in college. Um,

1319
01:10:17,800 --> 01:10:20,479
Speaker 1: why isn't Stanford better? I mean, they've been there so good?

1320
01:10:20,560 --> 01:10:23,080
Speaker 1: This is the old question. They're so good in every

1321
01:10:23,120 --> 01:10:26,240
Speaker 1: other sport. Obviously they strugged, they struggle this year in football,

1322
01:10:26,920 --> 01:10:29,920
Speaker 1: But in basketball, why isn't Stanford You know you lose

1323
01:10:29,960 --> 01:10:34,280
Speaker 1: read Travis. That hurts you. Why aren't they better? Man?

1324
01:10:34,280 --> 01:10:37,160
Speaker 1: I've been wrestling with this question for a while. We Uh,

1325
01:10:37,160 --> 01:10:40,879
Speaker 1: Stanford has made one tournament in the past decade. Welcome

1326
01:10:41,000 --> 01:10:44,320
Speaker 1: is that true? One tournament in the past decade? That

1327
01:10:44,439 --> 01:10:46,720
Speaker 1: is true? Look it up. Um, it was the one

1328
01:10:46,800 --> 01:10:48,840
Speaker 1: year that Johnny Dawkins. They made it to the tournament

1329
01:10:48,840 --> 01:10:52,680
Speaker 1: and they upset Kansas when they had Andrew Wiggins Um.

1330
01:10:52,720 --> 01:10:54,600
Speaker 1: So they made a Sweet sixteen the one time that

1331
01:10:54,640 --> 01:10:56,240
Speaker 1: they did make the tournament. But that's it. They have

1332
01:10:56,400 --> 01:10:59,040
Speaker 1: made the tournament since Brook Lopez and Robin Lopez were roaming.

1333
01:10:59,760 --> 01:11:03,880
Speaker 1: Before that it was brook Lopez. So but your question,

1334
01:11:03,920 --> 01:11:08,160
Speaker 1: why aren't they better? So, you know, Stanford has a

1335
01:11:08,280 --> 01:11:13,400
Speaker 1: small recruiting pool, like it's It is as difficult to

1336
01:11:13,439 --> 01:11:17,280
Speaker 1: get into Stanford as any other basketball power that you

1337
01:11:17,320 --> 01:11:20,640
Speaker 1: know that offers scholarships, you know, not notwithstanding that the

1338
01:11:20,680 --> 01:11:23,080
Speaker 1: Ivy League schools. Because of that, you have a you

1339
01:11:23,080 --> 01:11:27,400
Speaker 1: have a small pool. Well, the elite uh players like

1340
01:11:27,439 --> 01:11:30,519
Speaker 1: a Reed Travis, who is a McDonald's All American. He's

1341
01:11:30,600 --> 01:11:33,960
Speaker 1: been the only McDonald's All American Doug in the last

1342
01:11:34,040 --> 01:11:37,479
Speaker 1: eight years, I want to say, So let's just start

1343
01:11:37,600 --> 01:11:42,400
Speaker 1: right there. So the elite players are not going to

1344
01:11:43,080 --> 01:11:47,360
Speaker 1: Stanford lately. When I played in from two thousand and two,

1345
01:11:47,760 --> 01:11:51,360
Speaker 1: we had four McDonald's All Americans on our team. And

1346
01:11:51,479 --> 01:11:53,200
Speaker 1: let's not get it twisted. We can talk to x

1347
01:11:53,240 --> 01:11:55,040
Speaker 1: as and those, we can talk about who's the coach,

1348
01:11:55,080 --> 01:11:58,599
Speaker 1: who's not the coach. If you don't have NBA players,

1349
01:11:58,680 --> 01:12:02,160
Speaker 1: and you're in a power fire our sixth conference. You're

1350
01:12:02,240 --> 01:12:05,160
Speaker 1: not going to be going to the tournament every year.

1351
01:12:05,160 --> 01:12:07,080
Speaker 1: You're not going to be ranked in the top twenty

1352
01:12:07,120 --> 01:12:11,640
Speaker 1: in the country. And that's that. So the one McDonald's

1353
01:12:11,640 --> 01:12:14,920
Speaker 1: all American elite high school players that they have recruited

1354
01:12:15,200 --> 01:12:19,519
Speaker 1: read Travis transferred for his senior year to go to Kentucky,

1355
01:12:19,600 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: which is a bad state of affairs for Stamford. I mean, he's,

1356
01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:24,559
Speaker 1: you know, an All Pac twelve player. The leading score

1357
01:12:24,600 --> 01:12:26,840
Speaker 1: they ran then entire offense to him, and he is

1358
01:12:27,280 --> 01:12:29,800
Speaker 1: the reason he transferred. Doug is because he never played

1359
01:12:29,800 --> 01:12:32,280
Speaker 1: an n C double a tournament and he didn't feel

1360
01:12:32,280 --> 01:12:35,880
Speaker 1: like Stamford had enough NBA scouts. He wasn't showcased enough.

1361
01:12:36,000 --> 01:12:38,479
Speaker 1: And so it's hard to write the ship right now

1362
01:12:38,560 --> 01:12:42,120
Speaker 1: if you're not getting any of those elite players. That's

1363
01:12:42,160 --> 01:12:44,919
Speaker 1: what It takes one or two of them, preferably two

1364
01:12:45,320 --> 01:12:48,240
Speaker 1: to turn the tides of a program. If you're playing

1365
01:12:48,280 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: in a conference like the PAC twelve. Well, I also think, um,

1366
01:12:52,720 --> 01:12:55,599
Speaker 1: you know, they've had guys transfer out, nobody transfer in,

1367
01:12:55,840 --> 01:12:58,880
Speaker 1: you know, and so when when people everyone else is

1368
01:12:58,920 --> 01:13:03,880
Speaker 1: playing older players and um, uh you know, they haven't.

1369
01:13:04,760 --> 01:13:08,240
Speaker 1: They should have three and fourth year guys that are

1370
01:13:08,240 --> 01:13:10,240
Speaker 1: able to compete. They should be able to compete without

1371
01:13:10,320 --> 01:13:14,000
Speaker 1: McDonald's all Americans, quite frankly, because they haven't lost guys

1372
01:13:14,040 --> 01:13:15,960
Speaker 1: to the NBA Draft the way that every U c

1373
01:13:16,120 --> 01:13:20,840
Speaker 1: l A has, Arizona has, USC has, organ has, but

1374
01:13:20,920 --> 01:13:22,920
Speaker 1: they haven't been able to do it. I mean, it's

1375
01:13:22,920 --> 01:13:25,760
Speaker 1: just it's really really remarkable. People forget. I had this

1376
01:13:25,800 --> 01:13:28,640
Speaker 1: conversation with any Katz where people forget, like when you

1377
01:13:28,640 --> 01:13:30,760
Speaker 1: were there the farm that was one of the best

1378
01:13:30,800 --> 01:13:32,880
Speaker 1: atmospheres in the West coast, right it was tough place.

1379
01:13:32,960 --> 01:13:36,320
Speaker 1: Right now the students don't care and they don't have

1380
01:13:36,360 --> 01:13:37,800
Speaker 1: they don't have good enough teams, they don't have good

1381
01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,000
Speaker 1: enough players. But also if you're not if you don't

1382
01:13:40,000 --> 01:13:42,320
Speaker 1: have a distinct home court advantage where you could roll

1383
01:13:42,360 --> 01:13:44,519
Speaker 1: out and win nine percent of your games, that that

1384
01:13:44,600 --> 01:13:48,120
Speaker 1: changes your season dramatically. There's no no question about that.

1385
01:13:48,160 --> 01:13:51,040
Speaker 1: I watched Maples Pavilion is the arena. It's on Stanford's

1386
01:13:51,080 --> 01:13:53,360
Speaker 1: campus and it only holds eight thousands, but there are

1387
01:13:53,360 --> 01:13:56,479
Speaker 1: people who waited outside. Now, there's some factors. In the

1388
01:13:56,600 --> 01:13:58,880
Speaker 1: first and foremost we were a really good team in

1389
01:13:59,080 --> 01:14:01,880
Speaker 1: you know, top five talent in the country. But two,

1390
01:14:02,080 --> 01:14:04,439
Speaker 1: it's a different landscape and in college basketball net where

1391
01:14:04,479 --> 01:14:07,200
Speaker 1: every game is on TV, Doug. Plus you factor in

1392
01:14:07,200 --> 01:14:11,040
Speaker 1: the fact that, um, at Stanford, the students have other

1393
01:14:11,080 --> 01:14:15,080
Speaker 1: stuff going on. They don't They are busy trying to

1394
01:14:15,120 --> 01:14:18,280
Speaker 1: advance their own academic careers and achieve their goals. They

1395
01:14:18,280 --> 01:14:21,519
Speaker 1: don't care about football. Even when Jim Harbaugh now David

1396
01:14:21,520 --> 01:14:24,479
Speaker 1: Shaw is coaching at Stanford and they are a top

1397
01:14:24,560 --> 01:14:28,439
Speaker 1: ten program, you can argue there's the best Western program

1398
01:14:28,800 --> 01:14:33,679
Speaker 1: of the past decade, better than usc UM and their

1399
01:14:33,760 --> 01:14:38,080
Speaker 1: stadium holds and they can barely, if at all, get

1400
01:14:38,960 --> 01:14:43,120
Speaker 1: in there. Um, there's just other things going on at Stanford.

1401
01:14:43,240 --> 01:14:45,880
Speaker 1: Sports is not a high priority to the university as

1402
01:14:45,920 --> 01:14:49,400
Speaker 1: far as like the major college sports and going above

1403
01:14:49,439 --> 01:14:52,680
Speaker 1: and beyond stuff like that. So because of that, you're right,

1404
01:14:53,000 --> 01:14:55,640
Speaker 1: not having that home court advantage certainly certainly hurts. And

1405
01:14:55,680 --> 01:14:58,479
Speaker 1: then we've already talked about the lack of elite talent.

1406
01:14:59,000 --> 01:15:01,760
Speaker 1: I disagree that. I got I think any time you

1407
01:15:01,880 --> 01:15:03,599
Speaker 1: can think of a Stanford team that was any good,

1408
01:15:03,640 --> 01:15:07,559
Speaker 1: they had multiple So yeah, yeah, no, it's fair. That's

1409
01:15:07,600 --> 01:15:10,400
Speaker 1: that's fair. I also think though that that that times

1410
01:15:10,400 --> 01:15:13,599
Speaker 1: have you know, some times have changed, but yeah, they

1411
01:15:13,640 --> 01:15:16,040
Speaker 1: look they used to be. Stanford used to be able

1412
01:15:16,080 --> 01:15:17,960
Speaker 1: to do in basketball what they're able to do in

1413
01:15:18,000 --> 01:15:20,800
Speaker 1: football now, which is like, hey, if you want academics

1414
01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:24,000
Speaker 1: and athletics, you come here. And all of your guys

1415
01:15:24,520 --> 01:15:28,719
Speaker 1: were like that. For whatever reason, both the last two,

1416
01:15:29,080 --> 01:15:30,760
Speaker 1: both the last two regimes have not been able to

1417
01:15:30,760 --> 01:15:33,720
Speaker 1: capitalize on that. They just haven't. Um I didn't think

1418
01:15:33,720 --> 01:15:36,320
Speaker 1: they had. I didn't they had good enough guards when

1419
01:15:36,400 --> 01:15:38,720
Speaker 1: Tommy was there made me on to time and when

1420
01:15:38,840 --> 01:15:43,040
Speaker 1: um uh john, when Johnny Dawkins was there, I didn't

1421
01:15:43,040 --> 01:15:47,080
Speaker 1: think that. I never felt like like after Chris Hernandez graduated,

1422
01:15:47,080 --> 01:15:50,639
Speaker 1: they haven't had you guys. You guys always had pro bigs, right,

1423
01:15:51,320 --> 01:15:54,719
Speaker 1: And obviously that's hard to get now there aren't many big, big,

1424
01:15:54,760 --> 01:15:57,880
Speaker 1: big boys in college basketball. But I also think you

1425
01:15:57,920 --> 01:16:01,640
Speaker 1: guys always had really really good guards, from Brevin to

1426
01:16:01,840 --> 01:16:06,280
Speaker 1: Mike to to Hernandez, an average er he graduated. There's

1427
01:16:06,320 --> 01:16:11,200
Speaker 1: never been kind of that dynamic just below NBA caliber

1428
01:16:11,360 --> 01:16:14,240
Speaker 1: point guard that stays four years to go along with

1429
01:16:14,280 --> 01:16:17,680
Speaker 1: the NBA caliber bigs. You're right, the one team that

1430
01:16:17,720 --> 01:16:20,240
Speaker 1: they did have that were really underachieved, those Chasing Randall,

1431
01:16:20,280 --> 01:16:23,160
Speaker 1: who was a really good college guard. They had Dwight

1432
01:16:23,240 --> 01:16:25,880
Speaker 1: Powell and Josh Shustis who all three of those guys

1433
01:16:26,280 --> 01:16:28,840
Speaker 1: did play or are still playing in the NBA. But

1434
01:16:29,320 --> 01:16:31,800
Speaker 1: this Standard team right now is actually really strong on

1435
01:16:31,880 --> 01:16:36,679
Speaker 1: the backcourt. I actually their biggest asset is Kazy accola

1436
01:16:36,800 --> 01:16:39,320
Speaker 1: really long wing. He can't shoot from three, but he

1437
01:16:39,360 --> 01:16:42,760
Speaker 1: does everything else really well. Um. And Dejean Davis is

1438
01:16:42,800 --> 01:16:44,760
Speaker 1: a guy who you know out of the Seattle area.

1439
01:16:44,800 --> 01:16:47,479
Speaker 1: He's their starting point guard. He's wild, but he's a

1440
01:16:47,520 --> 01:16:50,400
Speaker 1: guy that is like that fringe player you're talking about.

1441
01:16:50,479 --> 01:16:52,160
Speaker 1: He's not good enough to be a lottery pick or

1442
01:16:52,200 --> 01:16:54,639
Speaker 1: even second round draft pick. Will probably stay at least

1443
01:16:55,000 --> 01:16:58,360
Speaker 1: three years, four years probably Um. But they don't have

1444
01:16:58,400 --> 01:17:01,879
Speaker 1: any any elite bigs, and especially with with Reed Travis

1445
01:17:01,880 --> 01:17:05,080
Speaker 1: transferring out, they're a gigantic hole in Stanfords team. They

1446
01:17:05,120 --> 01:17:08,080
Speaker 1: can't manufacture buckets at the rim and so they can't

1447
01:17:08,160 --> 01:17:11,680
Speaker 1: compete within I get blown out by North Carolina, They're

1448
01:17:11,680 --> 01:17:14,320
Speaker 1: gonna go to Kansas sounds probably not going to be close,

1449
01:17:14,400 --> 01:17:19,439
Speaker 1: just because who's gonna guard Udoka? Nobody, No no, I mean,

1450
01:17:19,720 --> 01:17:21,880
Speaker 1: and usually they used to have a bunch of big

1451
01:17:21,880 --> 01:17:24,120
Speaker 1: white dudes that could line up from Madam Keith to

1452
01:17:24,280 --> 01:17:28,000
Speaker 1: Mark Madison to the twins to whomever that could that

1453
01:17:28,040 --> 01:17:32,360
Speaker 1: could guard Udoka. Um okay, last thing, Casey Jacobson joining us,

1454
01:17:32,840 --> 01:17:34,000
Speaker 1: and I do I want to have you back on

1455
01:17:34,080 --> 01:17:35,960
Speaker 1: and I want to talk about your family, your basketball

1456
01:17:36,000 --> 01:17:38,240
Speaker 1: family and everything. Guy, you promised me you'll come back on.

1457
01:17:38,320 --> 01:17:41,879
Speaker 1: We can do that like a large form deal. Um okay,

1458
01:17:42,080 --> 01:17:49,040
Speaker 1: So Gonzaga, Duke, Kansas, give me the fourth most likely

1459
01:17:49,120 --> 01:17:51,920
Speaker 1: team to get to the Final four as of today,

1460
01:17:52,800 --> 01:17:57,720
Speaker 1: the besides those teams. Yes, yes, m hm. So I

1461
01:17:57,800 --> 01:18:01,040
Speaker 1: still like Virginia. I like Virginia last year and then

1462
01:18:01,439 --> 01:18:04,559
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter got hurt and I watched Virginia this year,

1463
01:18:05,160 --> 01:18:09,800
Speaker 1: and uh, I think Hunter is so much more valuable

1464
01:18:09,880 --> 01:18:12,280
Speaker 1: than we even thought last year. And people were like, oh,

1465
01:18:12,520 --> 01:18:14,479
Speaker 1: one player would make a difference for them, you know,

1466
01:18:14,640 --> 01:18:17,160
Speaker 1: not losing against the number sixteen seeds. If you watch

1467
01:18:17,960 --> 01:18:23,719
Speaker 1: DeAndre Hunter is a legit pro prospect, a four man

1468
01:18:24,040 --> 01:18:26,280
Speaker 1: that can play the three as well. You can step

1469
01:18:26,280 --> 01:18:28,400
Speaker 1: out and shoot, you can finish above the rim. It's

1470
01:18:28,439 --> 01:18:33,679
Speaker 1: a fantastic defensive player. Of course, um so I like Virginia.

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Speaker 1: I also like the story of them being the only

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Speaker 1: number one team to lose in the first round and

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01:18:41,080 --> 01:18:44,280
Speaker 1: rebound the next year and get to their their head

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01:18:44,280 --> 01:18:46,639
Speaker 1: coach Tony Bennett's first ever Final four. I just think

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01:18:46,680 --> 01:18:49,200
Speaker 1: that would be a perfect story book. Even if they

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01:18:49,240 --> 01:18:50,920
Speaker 1: don't win the national plite, I don't even care. Just

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Speaker 1: them getting there I think would be an incredible story

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Speaker 1: to follow during March. Um. You know, I like Tennessee At.

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01:19:00,560 --> 01:19:05,200
Speaker 1: I love their toughness, and I love their combination of

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01:19:05,200 --> 01:19:08,599
Speaker 1: of three infour man with Admiral Schofield and Grant Williams

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01:19:09,200 --> 01:19:13,320
Speaker 1: um and so they've been really, really impressive in the

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01:19:13,320 --> 01:19:15,360
Speaker 1: games that I've seen them. The VAT is a team

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01:19:15,360 --> 01:19:17,840
Speaker 1: that really intrigued me. But I don't I doubt they're

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01:19:17,920 --> 01:19:20,280
Speaker 1: they'll be good enough to defensively in the terment despite

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Speaker 1: the fact that they've addressed some of their big issues

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01:19:22,439 --> 01:19:26,000
Speaker 1: with Tray Porter Porter. Look Tray Porter, you'll see him

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01:19:26,040 --> 01:19:29,280
Speaker 1: tomorrow against that see freak athlete. Now he's diabetics, so

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01:19:29,600 --> 01:19:31,360
Speaker 1: I think that's one reason they limited his playing time.

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01:19:31,400 --> 01:19:33,639
Speaker 1: Only players like eight team mints a game. But uh,

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01:19:33,760 --> 01:19:36,960
Speaker 1: fifth year grad transfer senior, he changes things to I

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01:19:36,960 --> 01:19:41,040
Speaker 1: just think they're so old and mature, and now you

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Speaker 1: add in you got Jazz Johnson as a shooter. Um

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Speaker 1: Nevada would I recently put Nevadas I picked. I'm with

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01:19:48,680 --> 01:19:51,360
Speaker 1: we're all kind of circling around the same teams. That's

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01:19:51,360 --> 01:19:54,160
Speaker 1: pretty impressive. And they Jordan Caroline is just a monster

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01:19:54,200 --> 01:19:55,880
Speaker 1: in there, you know, like a six four or six

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Speaker 1: five four or five man that at the college level.

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01:19:59,160 --> 01:20:01,320
Speaker 1: He's a grown man and he's gonna be turned twenty three.

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01:20:02,720 --> 01:20:05,080
Speaker 1: I just think they have so much more age and experience,

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Speaker 1: and now you have a little bit of length of

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01:20:06,320 --> 01:20:09,439
Speaker 1: the back end. Nevada would, honestly as if today would

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01:20:09,439 --> 01:20:11,920
Speaker 1: be my pick. I'm not sure they have the the

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01:20:12,160 --> 01:20:15,639
Speaker 1: perimeter defense because they're so big, but I'm I'm also

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01:20:15,680 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: not sure it matters because they can also score on you.

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01:20:18,680 --> 01:20:21,439
Speaker 1: I'm not going to pick against him. I'll tell you that.

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01:20:21,800 --> 01:20:24,160
Speaker 1: I just they have to prove to me against the

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01:20:24,200 --> 01:20:27,479
Speaker 1: elite level of talent, that's my only thing. Defensively, they

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01:20:27,520 --> 01:20:30,000
Speaker 1: have to prove that. They don't have to prove anything

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01:20:30,000 --> 01:20:32,160
Speaker 1: on the offensive end there as dangerous as anybody. They

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01:20:32,200 --> 01:20:35,320
Speaker 1: can score against anyone their lengths will be a problem.

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01:20:35,720 --> 01:20:38,680
Speaker 1: But we're talking Nevada as a final four team. That

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01:20:38,680 --> 01:20:40,960
Speaker 1: means they're gonna have to beat a Kansas, They're gonna

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01:20:40,960 --> 01:20:45,000
Speaker 1: have to beat a Duke, and can they defend those teams?

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01:20:45,520 --> 01:20:48,519
Speaker 1: Nevada is a team that's going to be heavily favored

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01:20:48,640 --> 01:20:51,080
Speaker 1: in every single game they play this year. And no

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01:20:51,160 --> 01:20:54,639
Speaker 1: other top ten, top five team team can possibly say

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01:20:54,720 --> 01:20:59,200
Speaker 1: that there's there's dude isn't weak, but it's not good. Well,

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01:20:59,240 --> 01:21:01,120
Speaker 1: I know we'll see they they got sc then they

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01:21:01,160 --> 01:21:03,880
Speaker 1: got Arizona State. Uh, let's see a Casey great stuff.

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Speaker 1: Can't wait to see you tomorrow on Fox. And I

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01:21:05,760 --> 01:21:08,479
Speaker 1: appreciate you joining us in the All Ball podcast. An

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01:21:10,160 --> 01:21:13,799
Speaker 1: all right, look, I've seen uh so many teams in personnel.

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01:21:13,800 --> 01:21:18,040
Speaker 1: Continue to give you insight on different teams. You know,

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01:21:18,280 --> 01:21:20,920
Speaker 1: I haven't gotten the southern Illinois. I don't think I've

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01:21:20,920 --> 01:21:22,760
Speaker 1: got in the Illinois State. Who I think Illinois State

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01:21:22,840 --> 01:21:24,880
Speaker 1: might win? The valley Man This Malik yarborro kid his

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01:21:24,960 --> 01:21:28,600
Speaker 1: dad played there started St. Louis transferred over. I like

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01:21:28,720 --> 01:21:30,800
Speaker 1: their roster. My question was about their guards, and the

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01:21:30,840 --> 01:21:33,000
Speaker 1: guards are pretty good. Like I'll give you some more

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01:21:33,000 --> 01:21:35,960
Speaker 1: I'll give you some Valley thoughts upcoming next week, but

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01:21:36,200 --> 01:21:38,479
Speaker 1: Big Ten's kicking off. We've got great hoops this weekend

1532
01:21:38,479 --> 01:21:41,000
Speaker 1: on Fox and on the other networks. Feel free to watch.

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01:21:41,200 --> 01:21:45,240
Speaker 1: Continue to tweet out your questions. One last thing, since

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01:21:45,280 --> 01:21:48,679
Speaker 1: we're doing a podcast. Brian Winhorse on his podcast said

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01:21:48,680 --> 01:21:53,800
Speaker 1: that scouts had told him that Lebron ignores Luke Walton's

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01:21:53,920 --> 01:21:58,080
Speaker 1: play calls when he's playing the point. I have been

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01:21:58,120 --> 01:22:03,040
Speaker 1: told unequivocally that that is fiction. And before I sit

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01:22:03,080 --> 01:22:05,200
Speaker 1: there and tell you that that doesn't mean that Wendy

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01:22:05,680 --> 01:22:08,639
Speaker 1: doesn't do a great job, or that Scouts aren't telling

1540
01:22:08,680 --> 01:22:13,400
Speaker 1: him that. But scouts assuming that Lebron and Luke Walton

1541
01:22:13,560 --> 01:22:15,840
Speaker 1: scouts from other teams are on the same page. Either one,

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01:22:15,840 --> 01:22:18,400
Speaker 1: they're trying to plant the story to create uh an Era,

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01:22:18,520 --> 01:22:21,120
Speaker 1: an aura of dysfunction in the Lakers, which I've been

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01:22:21,160 --> 01:22:24,439
Speaker 1: told doesn't exist. Or two, they just don't understand how

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01:22:24,439 --> 01:22:28,920
Speaker 1: those two operate. First of all, Luke doesn't call a

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01:22:28,920 --> 01:22:33,400
Speaker 1: ton of sets. They just don't. They don't overcoach him,

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01:22:33,439 --> 01:22:37,080
Speaker 1: and Lebron does try and exploit mismatches, and he knows

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01:22:37,160 --> 01:22:39,040
Speaker 1: what he wants, and you're not gonna stop a guy

1549
01:22:39,080 --> 01:22:43,240
Speaker 1: who's a fifteen year superstar, once in a generation player

1550
01:22:43,280 --> 01:22:45,280
Speaker 1: and say no, no no, no, no, no, dude, come out

1551
01:22:45,400 --> 01:22:47,719
Speaker 1: and let's run a little U C L A double,

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01:22:48,080 --> 01:22:52,559
Speaker 1: you know. But in terms of ignoring coaching, doing your

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01:22:52,600 --> 01:22:55,719
Speaker 1: own thing, not trying to run the plays that are called.

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01:22:57,760 --> 01:22:59,320
Speaker 1: I think that this is part of the deal which

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01:22:59,320 --> 01:23:01,000
Speaker 1: the Lakers. Every one knows the Lakers are gonna be

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01:23:01,000 --> 01:23:03,439
Speaker 1: players in free agency this upcoming off season, and I

1557
01:23:03,439 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 1: think the Clippers will as well. I think the Nick's

1558
01:23:05,280 --> 01:23:09,160
Speaker 1: got a chance to get in there and and players

1559
01:23:09,160 --> 01:23:11,799
Speaker 1: at their current places. It's it's hard to leave hardily.

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01:23:14,000 --> 01:23:17,080
Speaker 1: But I've I've I know multiple guys in that front

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01:23:17,120 --> 01:23:19,360
Speaker 1: office and on that coaching staff, and they're all like,

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01:23:19,880 --> 01:23:26,000
Speaker 1: that just didn't happen. It just hasn't happened. Um. And

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01:23:26,040 --> 01:23:28,439
Speaker 1: that's the thing. What they what they thought they were

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01:23:28,439 --> 01:23:31,600
Speaker 1: going to get, they have basically gotten. I know that

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01:23:31,600 --> 01:23:33,920
Speaker 1: people are pushing back in the Lakers not having enough shooting.

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01:23:33,960 --> 01:23:37,720
Speaker 1: They know that they're not idiots, but they feel like

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01:23:37,760 --> 01:23:40,880
Speaker 1: they have super competitive guys, but also guys that can

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01:23:40,880 --> 01:23:44,360
Speaker 1: function well within the locker room, even the goofy dudes

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01:23:44,400 --> 01:23:46,360
Speaker 1: at the end of the bench, the born readies of

1570
01:23:46,360 --> 01:23:49,920
Speaker 1: the world. There's a good dude. They come in, they

1571
01:23:50,000 --> 01:23:52,920
Speaker 1: do their work, they put an extra work, they go home,

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01:23:54,240 --> 01:23:56,639
Speaker 1: they go home. That's that's what they do. Tyson Chandler

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01:23:56,720 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 1: has added a great presence defensively, they're way better defensively

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01:23:59,640 --> 01:24:01,920
Speaker 1: with him. It's allowed them to sit javail more. But

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01:24:02,040 --> 01:24:05,320
Speaker 1: also he's a professional. He says all the right things,

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01:24:05,320 --> 01:24:07,400
Speaker 1: shows all the right leadership to the guys on the bench.

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01:24:08,920 --> 01:24:12,719
Speaker 1: And I think I would guess my guess is a scout,

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01:24:13,320 --> 01:24:15,719
Speaker 1: and most scouts are. They're trying to see the negative.

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01:24:15,880 --> 01:24:18,360
Speaker 1: There's the confirmation bias, right, there's the thought and I've

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01:24:18,400 --> 01:24:20,639
Speaker 1: had that in my head that Lebron's hard to coach. Man.

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01:24:20,640 --> 01:24:22,120
Speaker 1: He's got to be hard to tell. The call plays

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01:24:23,120 --> 01:24:25,080
Speaker 1: and you see something you think might be that, so

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01:24:25,160 --> 01:24:27,479
Speaker 1: you say it to somebody like Brian Windhorse, who then

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01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,760
Speaker 1: talks about it in his podcast, and he creates this

1585
01:24:30,080 --> 01:24:32,479
Speaker 1: and everybody in our business is talking about it. Well,

1586
01:24:32,720 --> 01:24:35,000
Speaker 1: you know, here's Lebron. He's gonna have it out for Luke.

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01:24:35,560 --> 01:24:38,000
Speaker 1: My sources are good in this one. Not Luke himself,

1588
01:24:38,000 --> 01:24:41,080
Speaker 1: but guys around him. Lebron has been a really good teammate,

1589
01:24:41,439 --> 01:24:44,200
Speaker 1: really trying, and he knows at the end of games

1590
01:24:44,240 --> 01:24:47,240
Speaker 1: like the pacer game, gotta take over, gotta get the ball.

1591
01:24:47,560 --> 01:24:50,040
Speaker 1: He becomes their point guard, especially without Rohndo. But but

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01:24:50,120 --> 01:24:54,599
Speaker 1: that that report, whatever scout gave Windhorse, whatever scouts gave

1593
01:24:54,640 --> 01:24:58,680
Speaker 1: Windhorse that information, they're either assuming something or trying to

1594
01:24:58,720 --> 01:25:03,920
Speaker 1: plant something that doesn't actually exist. I hope you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: the All Ball Podcast. Keep your questions and comments coming

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