1 00:00:00,520 --> 00:00:03,240 Speaker 1: Live from our nation's camera. This budget thing is going 2 00:00:03,279 --> 00:00:06,120 Speaker 1: to do nothing spaceports. I still think it's interesting President 3 00:00:06,160 --> 00:00:10,360 Speaker 1: Trump not playing his cards yet. Headlines Policy and politics colliding, 4 00:00:10,480 --> 00:00:15,319 Speaker 1: Floomberg Sound On, The Insiders, the Influencers, the insides. I 5 00:00:15,320 --> 00:00:18,000 Speaker 1: would rather see a congressional solution. It's part of my DNA. 6 00:00:18,280 --> 00:00:20,919 Speaker 1: The Senate map in looks a lot different than it 7 00:00:20,920 --> 00:00:24,239 Speaker 1: looked in. You really have a divide within Team Trump. 8 00:00:24,360 --> 00:00:26,680 Speaker 1: The present has to do exactly what people send him 9 00:00:26,680 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: here to do, which is to get it done. This 10 00:00:29,040 --> 00:00:34,240 Speaker 1: is Bloomberg Sound On with Keaven Shirley on Floomberg and 11 00:00:34,400 --> 00:00:37,440 Speaker 1: one oh five point seven fm h D two. Bill 12 00:00:37,520 --> 00:00:42,440 Speaker 1: Gates talks Elizabeth Warren will medicare for all? Wealth tax? 13 00:00:42,920 --> 00:00:46,919 Speaker 1: Will that play in a main stream, main election. We're 14 00:00:46,920 --> 00:00:49,080 Speaker 1: going to dive into the specifics on that Bill Gates. 15 00:00:49,080 --> 00:00:50,240 Speaker 1: You don't want to hear. You don't want to miss 16 00:00:50,280 --> 00:00:54,160 Speaker 1: this because he was asked directly about the wealth tax 17 00:00:54,840 --> 00:00:58,760 Speaker 1: and it got interesting. It got interesting. Meanwhile, the latest 18 00:00:58,760 --> 00:01:02,920 Speaker 1: on the twenty of race and impeachment. As these public 19 00:01:02,960 --> 00:01:07,480 Speaker 1: hearings now are set to begin in just under one week, 20 00:01:07,560 --> 00:01:10,520 Speaker 1: I'll also give you the latest on the US China 21 00:01:10,720 --> 00:01:12,840 Speaker 1: Trade front. It looks like folks, they're not going to 22 00:01:12,959 --> 00:01:16,480 Speaker 1: ink that Phase one trade deal until December. But the 23 00:01:16,600 --> 00:01:21,240 Speaker 1: Chinese are saying tariffs could be could be off the table. 24 00:01:21,480 --> 00:01:24,840 Speaker 1: Mixed messaging coming, but the Wall, Wall Street, The Street 25 00:01:25,080 --> 00:01:29,840 Speaker 1: reacting positively on the latest headlines regarding the tea leaves 26 00:01:29,959 --> 00:01:33,480 Speaker 1: of US China trade policy. Uh here with me in studio. 27 00:01:33,560 --> 00:01:38,080 Speaker 1: Christian Hall and Democratic strategist, senior advisor at Rock Solutions 28 00:01:38,080 --> 00:01:42,760 Speaker 1: and former Blue Dog Coalition communications director Scott Tranter is 29 00:01:42,800 --> 00:01:46,399 Speaker 1: also back. He's the CEO of Optimist and former data 30 00:01:46,440 --> 00:01:50,880 Speaker 1: science director from Marco Rubio for President. Optimist designs and 31 00:01:50,920 --> 00:01:55,360 Speaker 1: delivers data driven strategies for leading presidential and gubernatorial campaigns, 32 00:01:55,560 --> 00:01:58,680 Speaker 1: as well as Fortune five companies and other nonprofits around 33 00:01:58,720 --> 00:02:00,880 Speaker 1: the globe. So lots to get the but I want 34 00:02:00,880 --> 00:02:06,160 Speaker 1: to begin tonight with because Bill Gates was speaking at 35 00:02:06,160 --> 00:02:10,000 Speaker 1: a New York Times event. He was interviewed Bill Gates, 36 00:02:10,040 --> 00:02:14,720 Speaker 1: the American business magnet, the the Guy, the rich Guy, 37 00:02:15,320 --> 00:02:19,280 Speaker 1: Principal founder of Microsoft Corporation. Bill Gates, he was speaking 38 00:02:19,320 --> 00:02:22,639 Speaker 1: at the New York Times and he was asked about 39 00:02:22,720 --> 00:02:26,720 Speaker 1: Elizabeth Warren and I want to play for you what 40 00:02:26,960 --> 00:02:29,440 Speaker 1: his response was, Bill Gates on Elizabeth Warren and The 41 00:02:29,480 --> 00:02:32,120 Speaker 1: New York Times. You know, I'm not sure how open 42 00:02:32,200 --> 00:02:36,760 Speaker 1: minded she is, uh uh, or that she'd even be 43 00:02:36,840 --> 00:02:39,600 Speaker 1: willing to sit down with somebody you know who has 44 00:02:40,160 --> 00:02:43,280 Speaker 1: a large amounts of money. That was Bill Gates speaking 45 00:02:43,280 --> 00:02:47,160 Speaker 1: earlier today about Elizabeth Warren at the New York Times. 46 00:02:47,760 --> 00:02:50,800 Speaker 1: Had the crowd had the room laughing. My two guests 47 00:02:50,840 --> 00:02:54,560 Speaker 1: with me here in studio, Kristen Hallan from Texas and 48 00:02:54,600 --> 00:02:59,040 Speaker 1: Scott Tranter from Laguna Beach and Christens the Democratic Strategist 49 00:02:59,080 --> 00:03:04,520 Speaker 1: and Scott's the looking Girl, think I found them big, um. 50 00:03:05,880 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: Christen Hard you were also the previous communications director for 51 00:03:09,240 --> 00:03:12,120 Speaker 1: the Blue Dog Coalition, a group of moderate centrist Democrats 52 00:03:12,120 --> 00:03:14,160 Speaker 1: in the House. When you hear Bill Gates talk like 53 00:03:14,240 --> 00:03:17,840 Speaker 1: that to the New York Times, you're a reaction. I mean, 54 00:03:17,880 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 1: I think it's obviously a joke, but there's some truth 55 00:03:20,400 --> 00:03:23,520 Speaker 1: to it, right. I mean, she's she's very prescriptive. I'm 56 00:03:23,520 --> 00:03:26,000 Speaker 1: not exactly sure, particularly at this point in her campaign, 57 00:03:26,000 --> 00:03:28,480 Speaker 1: whether she would sit down with somebody, um, you know 58 00:03:28,560 --> 00:03:31,040 Speaker 1: that has large amounts of money. Um. I think she 59 00:03:31,160 --> 00:03:33,400 Speaker 1: has one thing you can't say about her is that 60 00:03:33,440 --> 00:03:35,520 Speaker 1: she's not upfront with with most of her policies and 61 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:37,720 Speaker 1: where she's going, whether you agree with her or not, 62 00:03:37,920 --> 00:03:40,640 Speaker 1: the large exception being taking a long time to describe 63 00:03:40,640 --> 00:03:42,920 Speaker 1: how she's gonna pay for Medicare for all, which kind 64 00:03:42,920 --> 00:03:45,560 Speaker 1: of came back to buy her and you know what, um, 65 00:03:45,640 --> 00:03:47,960 Speaker 1: But it's not surprising. I don't think she would. UM. 66 00:03:48,120 --> 00:03:51,200 Speaker 1: I think that a lot of people on Wall Street, 67 00:03:51,240 --> 00:03:52,760 Speaker 1: a lot of a lot of business people, are very 68 00:03:52,760 --> 00:03:54,920 Speaker 1: concerned about her policies going forward, and I'm not sure 69 00:03:54,960 --> 00:03:57,480 Speaker 1: howpe in minded she is actually. All right, So Bill 70 00:03:57,520 --> 00:04:01,120 Speaker 1: Gates is worth an estimated hundred and six billion dollars, 71 00:04:01,680 --> 00:04:04,240 Speaker 1: making him the second wealthiest man in the world behind 72 00:04:04,360 --> 00:04:08,640 Speaker 1: Jeff Bezos, the Amazon guy. Uh. He was asked. He 73 00:04:09,080 --> 00:04:11,520 Speaker 1: was asked also about the tax on the wealthy, and 74 00:04:11,560 --> 00:04:14,120 Speaker 1: he had he said, I'm gonna read this part. He says, quote, 75 00:04:14,280 --> 00:04:16,919 Speaker 1: I paid over ten billion dollars in taxes. I paid 76 00:04:16,920 --> 00:04:19,680 Speaker 1: more than anyone in taxes. But I'm glad to If 77 00:04:19,720 --> 00:04:22,760 Speaker 1: I had paid twenty billion dollars, it's fine. But when 78 00:04:22,800 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: you say I should pay a hundred billion, then I'm 79 00:04:25,800 --> 00:04:27,520 Speaker 1: starting to do a little math about what I have 80 00:04:27,640 --> 00:04:31,560 Speaker 1: left over over. I'm just kidding, I mean, Scott, he's 81 00:04:31,640 --> 00:04:34,680 Speaker 1: joking about it, but it really does beg the question 82 00:04:34,920 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: as as as Kristen has alluded to, Elizabeth Moore now 83 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:43,320 Speaker 1: in the top tier Democratic presidential candidate, uh going to 84 00:04:43,440 --> 00:04:47,960 Speaker 1: be having to to take this and sell it in 85 00:04:47,960 --> 00:04:50,640 Speaker 1: a general this is is does she have a Bill 86 00:04:50,640 --> 00:04:54,320 Speaker 1: Gates problem? Yeah? I mean, look, it's funny Bill Gates 87 00:04:54,440 --> 00:04:57,000 Speaker 1: and I believe Jeff Bezes have agreed to give over 88 00:04:57,080 --> 00:04:59,320 Speaker 1: half of their wealth away to charity things like the 89 00:04:59,320 --> 00:05:02,479 Speaker 1: Bill of Millenni Gates Foundation, um, all those things. So 90 00:05:02,640 --> 00:05:05,160 Speaker 1: in a way, they're they're they're they're providing, you know, 91 00:05:05,360 --> 00:05:08,599 Speaker 1: the services that theoretically Elizabeth Warren will promise through the 92 00:05:08,640 --> 00:05:10,920 Speaker 1: government through her taxes, and they're doing it on their 93 00:05:10,960 --> 00:05:14,480 Speaker 1: own terms. Um. More importantly, I mean Vice President Biden 94 00:05:14,520 --> 00:05:16,680 Speaker 1: said this, you know, over the weekend where he said, look, 95 00:05:16,880 --> 00:05:19,039 Speaker 1: a losing Warren seems rigid in her and how she 96 00:05:19,120 --> 00:05:20,839 Speaker 1: wants to do things my way or the highway. And 97 00:05:20,839 --> 00:05:22,800 Speaker 1: I think Bill Gates put that in a much nicer 98 00:05:22,839 --> 00:05:25,559 Speaker 1: tone today at the New York Times, And that's pretty 99 00:05:25,640 --> 00:05:27,560 Speaker 1: much what's in the back of everyone's head. If you're 100 00:05:27,560 --> 00:05:30,360 Speaker 1: in Middle America, Modern America, who's open to voting for 101 00:05:30,400 --> 00:05:33,479 Speaker 1: a Democrat. Um, but just wondering do you want someone 102 00:05:33,560 --> 00:05:36,680 Speaker 1: like that? I mean, And Kristin Biden, also ratcheting up 103 00:05:36,720 --> 00:05:40,720 Speaker 1: his attacks, called her a quote unquote elitist. Yeah, I mean, 104 00:05:40,920 --> 00:05:42,760 Speaker 1: so he's losing. I mean that. I mean, let me 105 00:05:42,839 --> 00:05:45,479 Speaker 1: let me just I mean, when you've got Elizabeth Warren, 106 00:05:45,520 --> 00:05:49,320 Speaker 1: who got today to respond to Bill Gates, a billionaire, 107 00:05:49,400 --> 00:05:51,880 Speaker 1: Bill Gates and Twitter, and she tweeted out, I'm always 108 00:05:51,880 --> 00:05:53,960 Speaker 1: happy to meet with people, even if we have different views, 109 00:05:54,000 --> 00:05:56,320 Speaker 1: Bill Gates, if we get the chance, I'd love to 110 00:05:56,400 --> 00:05:59,920 Speaker 1: explain exactly how you'd pay under my wealth tax. I 111 00:06:00,160 --> 00:06:03,599 Speaker 1: promise you it's not a hundred billion dollars. And Joe 112 00:06:03,600 --> 00:06:05,640 Speaker 1: Biden's now gotta go out and call her in elitist. 113 00:06:05,720 --> 00:06:08,040 Speaker 1: So I'm not sure that was the right call. But 114 00:06:08,080 --> 00:06:11,159 Speaker 1: I mean on Biden, but like you know, I'm not 115 00:06:11,200 --> 00:06:12,760 Speaker 1: sure that that was the right public you know, public 116 00:06:12,800 --> 00:06:16,520 Speaker 1: comments make um. However, you know this wealth text, I mean, 117 00:06:16,520 --> 00:06:18,880 Speaker 1: you look at something like and I'm used Medicare for 118 00:06:18,920 --> 00:06:21,320 Speaker 1: All because it's it's such a large ticket item and 119 00:06:21,480 --> 00:06:23,840 Speaker 1: something that she has made the cornerstone of her campaign 120 00:06:24,080 --> 00:06:25,840 Speaker 1: had a very tough time coming out time on how 121 00:06:25,880 --> 00:06:27,719 Speaker 1: she paid for it. You cannot pay for it with 122 00:06:27,800 --> 00:06:30,440 Speaker 1: just a wealth tax. So this idea um that I 123 00:06:30,440 --> 00:06:32,240 Speaker 1: think a lot of people on on the far left 124 00:06:32,240 --> 00:06:33,840 Speaker 1: on my side, are brought into that as long as 125 00:06:33,880 --> 00:06:36,719 Speaker 1: you just tax the the uber wealthy, that that everything's 126 00:06:36,720 --> 00:06:39,240 Speaker 1: gonna be okay, And that's actually not the case. Well, 127 00:06:39,279 --> 00:06:41,000 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, it's an interesting point every time 128 00:06:41,000 --> 00:06:43,560 Speaker 1: there's a wealth tax um put out there, Like I 129 00:06:43,839 --> 00:06:45,719 Speaker 1: vaguely remember something out of New Jersey where they had 130 00:06:45,720 --> 00:06:47,359 Speaker 1: a wealth tax on people, and all of a sudden 131 00:06:47,360 --> 00:06:50,039 Speaker 1: you saw a lot of millionaires from New Jersey move 132 00:06:50,600 --> 00:06:52,719 Speaker 1: and so you start putting taxes on these people. You'll 133 00:06:52,760 --> 00:06:54,839 Speaker 1: get a little bit of revenue for a few years, 134 00:06:54,839 --> 00:06:56,200 Speaker 1: and all of a sudden, Bill Gates is gonna be 135 00:06:56,240 --> 00:06:58,479 Speaker 1: resident in Canada. Yeah, I mean, I'm not. I don't 136 00:06:58,480 --> 00:07:00,719 Speaker 1: want to be liked or voting the Bill Gates moving 137 00:07:00,760 --> 00:07:04,280 Speaker 1: to Canada. Everybody. Like the former founder of Facebook, he 138 00:07:04,400 --> 00:07:07,200 Speaker 1: literally declared to sing his citizenship and singapores he didn't 139 00:07:07,200 --> 00:07:09,200 Speaker 1: have to pay us seven the greatest country on Earth, 140 00:07:09,240 --> 00:07:13,440 Speaker 1: and everyone it's a privilege, seriously, and it's and I 141 00:07:13,480 --> 00:07:15,440 Speaker 1: always want to ask this question to people who moved, 142 00:07:15,840 --> 00:07:18,800 Speaker 1: would you have been able to create that company? And 143 00:07:18,960 --> 00:07:21,800 Speaker 1: without the American system. And we're talking about, you know, 144 00:07:21,840 --> 00:07:24,200 Speaker 1: the wealthiest of the wealthy. I don't want to be wealthy, right, 145 00:07:24,240 --> 00:07:27,240 Speaker 1: I'm talking about like you know, when we're talking about um, 146 00:07:27,280 --> 00:07:30,600 Speaker 1: you know, taxes, there is eight an extreme I mean 147 00:07:30,720 --> 00:07:33,680 Speaker 1: their extremes, right, I mean the wealthier getting wealthier and 148 00:07:33,680 --> 00:07:36,320 Speaker 1: out of the exact you know the exact numbers, but 149 00:07:36,440 --> 00:07:39,720 Speaker 1: they're they're extreme, right, So you gotta talk about you 150 00:07:39,760 --> 00:07:41,480 Speaker 1: gotta talk about that. I mean, you do have to 151 00:07:41,480 --> 00:07:45,920 Speaker 1: address it. She's addressing it. But that's why that's what 152 00:07:45,960 --> 00:07:47,480 Speaker 1: I want to ask you, Christen, because I know you 153 00:07:47,520 --> 00:07:50,960 Speaker 1: know everyone on all the different campaigns, but Elizabeth Warren 154 00:07:51,120 --> 00:07:54,120 Speaker 1: would much rather have a news cycle where she's engaging 155 00:07:54,120 --> 00:07:57,520 Speaker 1: with billionaires and talking about taxing the wealthy than getting 156 00:07:57,600 --> 00:08:01,520 Speaker 1: hit on pocahonest or hit from Joe Biden calling her elitist. 157 00:08:01,800 --> 00:08:04,520 Speaker 1: And she I've covered her for years. I mean, she 158 00:08:05,440 --> 00:08:09,120 Speaker 1: is so in her comfort zone when it's debating policy 159 00:08:09,480 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: because she's the policy candidate, you know, and and the 160 00:08:11,920 --> 00:08:14,720 Speaker 1: Democratic primary, she just got a whole new site, she 161 00:08:14,840 --> 00:08:17,880 Speaker 1: just got it was smart, so and it was smart, 162 00:08:17,960 --> 00:08:19,880 Speaker 1: and I think that pulls one up because of it, 163 00:08:19,920 --> 00:08:21,520 Speaker 1: and it pulls one up because of it, and I 164 00:08:21,520 --> 00:08:23,360 Speaker 1: think you've got to be careful with that in the general. 165 00:08:23,400 --> 00:08:25,280 Speaker 1: And then just like taking the politics out of it. 166 00:08:25,560 --> 00:08:27,360 Speaker 1: I do think that you have to have a fair 167 00:08:27,600 --> 00:08:29,760 Speaker 1: taxes and I think that the Republican tax bill that 168 00:08:29,840 --> 00:08:32,400 Speaker 1: passed was not the right thing to do. So, um, 169 00:08:32,600 --> 00:08:34,280 Speaker 1: you know, I don't think it did anything to address 170 00:08:34,280 --> 00:08:37,439 Speaker 1: income inequality. Uh you know, but but she's at least 171 00:08:37,480 --> 00:08:40,000 Speaker 1: talking about it. Um you know. What one thing to 172 00:08:40,000 --> 00:08:42,360 Speaker 1: bring up is, Look, I think Bill Gateson loved to 173 00:08:42,400 --> 00:08:44,040 Speaker 1: sit down with Elizabeth Warren if she were going to 174 00:08:44,160 --> 00:08:46,640 Speaker 1: ask him how he could help other Americans who do 175 00:08:46,760 --> 00:08:48,920 Speaker 1: want to see the wealth that he has get there. 176 00:08:48,920 --> 00:08:50,680 Speaker 1: And I think that's where the Trump campaign is going 177 00:08:50,720 --> 00:08:53,360 Speaker 1: to do pretty well against Elizabeth Warren is However, whether 178 00:08:53,440 --> 00:08:55,000 Speaker 1: or not you believe it is your call. But he's 179 00:08:55,040 --> 00:08:56,640 Speaker 1: gonna go out there and say I'm gonna help you 180 00:08:56,679 --> 00:08:59,199 Speaker 1: get rich like me, not I'm gonna take this guy's 181 00:08:59,200 --> 00:09:00,640 Speaker 1: money and give it to you. I know I'm gonna 182 00:09:00,679 --> 00:09:02,160 Speaker 1: get I don't want to. One of the questions I 183 00:09:02,240 --> 00:09:04,839 Speaker 1: have listened. I don't have a hundred billion dollars. But 184 00:09:05,000 --> 00:09:07,120 Speaker 1: one of the questions that I have is I think 185 00:09:07,160 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: that there are a lot of wealthy people who do 186 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,400 Speaker 1: a ton of good in their philanthropic works, and I 187 00:09:14,480 --> 00:09:18,000 Speaker 1: think that a legitimate question, Christen, is it not? Is 188 00:09:18,480 --> 00:09:21,240 Speaker 1: why shouldn't they be able to be to give back 189 00:09:21,280 --> 00:09:25,280 Speaker 1: through philanthropy and maybe have a bit more as opposed 190 00:09:25,320 --> 00:09:28,760 Speaker 1: to just they should. But I think we're they should 191 00:09:28,800 --> 00:09:30,520 Speaker 1: write So I'm answering the question, but I think it's 192 00:09:30,559 --> 00:09:32,720 Speaker 1: not to get at the core of the issue. That's 193 00:09:32,760 --> 00:09:34,720 Speaker 1: not it. You don't talk about just Bill Gates. To 194 00:09:34,720 --> 00:09:36,520 Speaker 1: get the core of this issue, you have to talk 195 00:09:36,559 --> 00:09:40,680 Speaker 1: about giving people the tools. And that's a responsibility to 196 00:09:40,720 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: send a degree of the photo gum. Giving the people 197 00:09:42,720 --> 00:09:46,880 Speaker 1: the tools to help them help themselves, right, educational tools, 198 00:09:46,920 --> 00:09:49,520 Speaker 1: the pile grants, those types of things. That's that, That's 199 00:09:49,600 --> 00:09:51,120 Speaker 1: that's at the core of what we need to talk about. 200 00:09:51,120 --> 00:09:53,760 Speaker 1: We're talking about incoming a qual I'm not talking about redistribution. Well, 201 00:09:54,240 --> 00:09:57,000 Speaker 1: her tax plan is funny, Medicare for all, not free 202 00:09:57,040 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: college for everyone, although she wants to get free college 203 00:09:59,000 --> 00:10:01,120 Speaker 1: and everyone. So she's going to take everyone's money pay 204 00:10:01,160 --> 00:10:03,680 Speaker 1: for medical I'm not defending hers. I'm saying I'm just 205 00:10:03,720 --> 00:10:05,640 Speaker 1: saying the issue that we should be talking about, but 206 00:10:05,679 --> 00:10:08,440 Speaker 1: you know, helping others, helping others, just to put it, 207 00:10:08,559 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 1: just to put an end point on this. As we 208 00:10:10,600 --> 00:10:12,800 Speaker 1: as coming up, we'll talk to us trying to trade policy. 209 00:10:13,160 --> 00:10:16,240 Speaker 1: She won the news cycle there objectively, if you are 210 00:10:16,240 --> 00:10:20,960 Speaker 1: Buddha judge, if you are Sanders, if you are Biden, uh, 211 00:10:21,120 --> 00:10:24,160 Speaker 1: Barney Sanders battling billionaires, that's and you're in the progressive 212 00:10:24,200 --> 00:10:26,760 Speaker 1: activist space. Barnie Sanders battling building. I mean, it's it's 213 00:10:26,840 --> 00:10:29,200 Speaker 1: fascinating to watch that. I wonder if she won the 214 00:10:29,200 --> 00:10:31,280 Speaker 1: news cycle in Iowa. I will tell you in my 215 00:10:31,320 --> 00:10:36,679 Speaker 1: democratic circles, I have heard so much more about tell 216 00:10:36,760 --> 00:10:40,440 Speaker 1: us about that coming up panel, stays Kristen halln Scott Transer. 217 00:10:40,520 --> 00:10:43,240 Speaker 1: Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on Apple iTunes, at 218 00:10:43,240 --> 00:10:45,920 Speaker 1: Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the Bloomberg Business app. 219 00:10:45,920 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: You can also find us on Radio dot com, I 220 00:10:47,960 --> 00:10:50,920 Speaker 1: Heart Radio and Spotify. Have Kevin Cirelli, Cheap Washington correspondent 221 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,040 Speaker 1: for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. It's Friday, e. Folks, 222 00:10:54,080 --> 00:11:02,319 Speaker 1: you're listening to Bloomberg. 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We're hearing reports 239 00:12:12,800 --> 00:12:18,400 Speaker 1: from Bloomberg Reuters, The journal ft that this US China 240 00:12:18,520 --> 00:12:22,880 Speaker 1: phase one phase one of what they're saying is three phases. 241 00:12:24,160 --> 00:12:28,840 Speaker 1: UH is not going to be signed until December. But 242 00:12:28,920 --> 00:12:32,880 Speaker 1: the Chinese are suggesting that the terrorists might be off 243 00:12:32,880 --> 00:12:35,960 Speaker 1: the table. But but the White House has been mum Scott, 244 00:12:36,520 --> 00:12:40,880 Speaker 1: US China trade policy might not get inked until December. Yeah, 245 00:12:40,920 --> 00:12:43,720 Speaker 1: that leaves plenty of opportunity for more twists and turns 246 00:12:43,720 --> 00:12:46,280 Speaker 1: in this story. I mean, phase one. I thought we 247 00:12:46,280 --> 00:12:48,439 Speaker 1: were in phase nine already. It's just hard to keep 248 00:12:48,480 --> 00:12:52,000 Speaker 1: track of um. And even if you sign something, we've 249 00:12:52,040 --> 00:12:53,959 Speaker 1: seen both the Chinese walk away from the deal and 250 00:12:54,000 --> 00:12:56,599 Speaker 1: President Trump walk away from a deal um that was 251 00:12:56,679 --> 00:12:59,160 Speaker 1: theoretically done. And so I just don't think this is 252 00:12:59,240 --> 00:13:01,600 Speaker 1: this is over. I think the more interesting. Yeah. I mean, 253 00:13:01,640 --> 00:13:05,360 Speaker 1: I just I don't believe I'm getting whiplash here, you know, 254 00:13:05,360 --> 00:13:10,079 Speaker 1: I mean, like deja vu. He phase nine, He comes 255 00:13:10,080 --> 00:13:11,960 Speaker 1: out and says there's a deal, and then the staff 256 00:13:12,160 --> 00:13:15,760 Speaker 1: backs up. You tell toy is going to be chief 257 00:13:15,800 --> 00:13:18,040 Speaker 1: for Christmas? Is pretty much all American wants to know. 258 00:13:18,280 --> 00:13:19,840 Speaker 1: They just want to know when I go to Amazon 259 00:13:19,920 --> 00:13:21,760 Speaker 1: Prime and I order my toy, is it going to 260 00:13:21,840 --> 00:13:25,199 Speaker 1: be delivered? Yeah? And that was that was that was 261 00:13:25,240 --> 00:13:28,240 Speaker 1: actually part of the equation. Yes, yeah, yeah, they pushed 262 00:13:28,240 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: back some the consumer electronics stapes and things like that. Yeah, well, 263 00:13:31,200 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: I mean and that and that precisely is exactly what 264 00:13:34,520 --> 00:13:37,960 Speaker 1: many folks are are worried about, are the implementation of 265 00:13:37,960 --> 00:13:41,760 Speaker 1: those tariffs. And the President now has reportedly ruled out 266 00:13:42,000 --> 00:13:45,280 Speaker 1: signing Phase one of the US China trade deal in Iowa, 267 00:13:45,320 --> 00:13:49,160 Speaker 1: in Alaska, or anywhere the continental United States. Now we're 268 00:13:49,160 --> 00:13:52,839 Speaker 1: hearing that it might happen in Europe, Europe to sign 269 00:13:52,880 --> 00:13:55,959 Speaker 1: that that phase one of the trade deal. Scott and 270 00:13:56,000 --> 00:13:58,200 Speaker 1: the breake you were telling me about the other big 271 00:13:58,240 --> 00:14:01,840 Speaker 1: trade deal. Let's not forget about usm C. Yeah. Look, 272 00:14:02,040 --> 00:14:05,400 Speaker 1: NAFTA needs to be passing the House. Um. Nancy Pelosi 273 00:14:05,480 --> 00:14:07,280 Speaker 1: has to be pretty quiet about that, because not all 274 00:14:07,320 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: of her caucus wants to vote on that. Um. Well, 275 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,240 Speaker 1: it's easy to be quo she voted for. She voted for. 276 00:14:13,480 --> 00:14:17,160 Speaker 1: Easy to be quiet about something when the entire conversation 277 00:14:17,240 --> 00:14:19,840 Speaker 1: is going to be about impeachment and the government exactly. 278 00:14:19,880 --> 00:14:23,120 Speaker 1: But if as long as my congressional knowledge is still correct, 279 00:14:23,160 --> 00:14:24,840 Speaker 1: it's been a while since I worked there, it has 280 00:14:24,880 --> 00:14:26,440 Speaker 1: to be voted on before the end of the year. 281 00:14:26,520 --> 00:14:28,280 Speaker 1: If it's going to get ratified now, I could be wrong. 282 00:14:28,560 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: Do it next year. They Christians well, And I also think, 283 00:14:33,920 --> 00:14:37,040 Speaker 1: I mean, if there's one thing that that Pelosi and 284 00:14:37,080 --> 00:14:39,600 Speaker 1: her staff UM are are well known for it it's 285 00:14:39,640 --> 00:14:42,640 Speaker 1: if there's real there are real negotiations going on either 286 00:14:42,680 --> 00:14:45,360 Speaker 1: across the ald, whether that's how Sam McConnell or the 287 00:14:45,360 --> 00:14:47,880 Speaker 1: White House. They don't they don't go out there in 288 00:14:47,920 --> 00:14:49,680 Speaker 1: public and talk a lot about They try to preserve 289 00:14:49,720 --> 00:14:52,960 Speaker 1: the integrity of the goods conversations. UM. Now I'm hearing 290 00:14:52,960 --> 00:14:54,440 Speaker 1: more and more that the president is just not gonna 291 00:14:54,440 --> 00:14:57,480 Speaker 1: be able to separate UM, you know, bifurcate the impeachment 292 00:14:57,520 --> 00:14:59,920 Speaker 1: proceedings from any any issues, which means a whole lot. 293 00:15:00,000 --> 00:15:01,960 Speaker 1: What are those middle states the president needs to win. 294 00:15:02,000 --> 00:15:05,160 Speaker 1: I mean, Iowa really cares about UM, you know, the pork, 295 00:15:05,240 --> 00:15:09,960 Speaker 1: the soybeans, UM, the trucking across UM. Texas pretty much 296 00:15:10,040 --> 00:15:12,960 Speaker 1: naf to look. Mexico is a much bigger trading partner 297 00:15:13,000 --> 00:15:14,920 Speaker 1: to us on our day to day than China is. 298 00:15:14,920 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: And China is really big. And so that's that's the 299 00:15:17,040 --> 00:15:19,240 Speaker 1: one that I that I think, really, really needs to 300 00:15:19,280 --> 00:15:22,400 Speaker 1: be figured out before China does, and and and China 301 00:15:22,480 --> 00:15:23,920 Speaker 1: is probably going to be an issue all the way 302 00:15:24,000 --> 00:15:27,920 Speaker 1: up until election day. It was interesting to see, uh, 303 00:15:28,440 --> 00:15:33,240 Speaker 1: just precisely, uh how Richard Neil, the chairman of the 304 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:36,320 Speaker 1: Ways of Means Committee, he met with Canadian Prime Minister 305 00:15:36,520 --> 00:15:40,880 Speaker 1: Justin Trudeau earlier, just within the last couple of yesterday. 306 00:15:40,960 --> 00:15:44,560 Speaker 1: I believe, yeah, yesterday. And it's a sign. I'm reading 307 00:15:44,560 --> 00:15:46,240 Speaker 1: this as a sign to have a Democrat g go 308 00:15:46,360 --> 00:15:50,240 Speaker 1: up and meet with the Canadian Prime minister that this 309 00:15:50,320 --> 00:15:53,320 Speaker 1: is very close to being finalized. Kristen, Yeah, I mean, 310 00:15:53,400 --> 00:15:56,200 Speaker 1: I think and I would agree with that. And Chairman 311 00:15:56,240 --> 00:15:59,960 Speaker 1: Neil is also known as a very practical legislator who 312 00:16:00,040 --> 00:16:01,640 Speaker 1: is willing to work with kind of all different sides. 313 00:16:01,680 --> 00:16:03,880 Speaker 1: So I think if he's involved that but probably means 314 00:16:03,960 --> 00:16:06,640 Speaker 1: that that their productive conversation is going on. Yeah, I 315 00:16:06,720 --> 00:16:09,520 Speaker 1: concur with that. Is especially, like like we said earlier, 316 00:16:09,600 --> 00:16:11,440 Speaker 1: good staff work. You've got to see this get done. 317 00:16:11,480 --> 00:16:13,320 Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see when they get it in 318 00:16:13,720 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: for a vote schedule, and you know how the President 319 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,360 Speaker 1: in the White House respond to, you know, having a 320 00:16:19,480 --> 00:16:22,040 Speaker 1: vote on a day there's public hearings on an impeachment, 321 00:16:22,240 --> 00:16:25,120 Speaker 1: you know, uh, hearing in in the House, UM, and 322 00:16:25,160 --> 00:16:26,920 Speaker 1: what that might do to people who may or may 323 00:16:26,920 --> 00:16:28,280 Speaker 1: not be on the fence and voting for it. Do 324 00:16:28,440 --> 00:16:33,760 Speaker 1: you think, Kristen, if, if, if USMC does ultimately get ratified, 325 00:16:34,240 --> 00:16:38,600 Speaker 1: do you think that will be a an issue for Democrats. 326 00:16:39,960 --> 00:16:41,640 Speaker 1: I don't think so, because I don't think this issue 327 00:16:41,640 --> 00:16:44,920 Speaker 1: falls down on party lines really, um. I think that 328 00:16:45,160 --> 00:16:48,920 Speaker 1: it will potentially keep bad things from happening. So in 329 00:16:49,000 --> 00:16:51,720 Speaker 1: that way, it could be an issue for US UM 330 00:16:51,920 --> 00:16:54,440 Speaker 1: with you know, Republicans or with US not having a 331 00:16:54,520 --> 00:16:58,920 Speaker 1: leg up. And actually among Democratic primary voters, U s 332 00:16:58,960 --> 00:17:01,600 Speaker 1: m C A and Trade General has been pulling higher 333 00:17:01,640 --> 00:17:04,040 Speaker 1: than it has been historically. And it might just be 334 00:17:04,080 --> 00:17:07,840 Speaker 1: the polarization of it all, um, but certainly Democratic primary 335 00:17:07,920 --> 00:17:10,080 Speaker 1: voters in Iowa, New Hampshire, and South Carolina and are 336 00:17:10,119 --> 00:17:13,159 Speaker 1: polling shows that you know, they're right around high forties, 337 00:17:13,160 --> 00:17:17,199 Speaker 1: low fifties and support for particularly fair trade, particularly in 338 00:17:17,880 --> 00:17:21,280 Speaker 1: some of those more difficult Democrats. So Democrats are saying 339 00:17:21,280 --> 00:17:23,119 Speaker 1: they want U s m CI is what you're saying. 340 00:17:23,320 --> 00:17:26,080 Speaker 1: They're much closer to supporting than they were twenty years ago. 341 00:17:26,080 --> 00:17:29,680 Speaker 1: When yeah, and it's it's nuanced them. Fair trade is 342 00:17:30,320 --> 00:17:32,280 Speaker 1: really what gets them on. And you know, we can 343 00:17:32,400 --> 00:17:34,840 Speaker 1: nuance what fair trade is, but they're much more open time. 344 00:17:34,880 --> 00:17:37,520 Speaker 1: I'm curious to see how China polls and and and 345 00:17:37,640 --> 00:17:42,160 Speaker 1: in particular, how how President She's ping polls uh and 346 00:17:42,160 --> 00:17:45,920 Speaker 1: and and whether or not independent voters in rust belt 347 00:17:45,960 --> 00:17:49,320 Speaker 1: states and in key swing states field that Joe Biden 348 00:17:49,440 --> 00:17:52,919 Speaker 1: or Elizabeth Warren or Bernie Sanders or Buddha Jedge would 349 00:17:52,960 --> 00:17:57,560 Speaker 1: be more aggressive against President She than Trump. Well, I 350 00:17:57,600 --> 00:17:59,480 Speaker 1: think we haven't seen you pulling out, but I think 351 00:17:59,480 --> 00:18:02,840 Speaker 1: you will because you know the NBA stuff. Yeah, I 352 00:18:03,000 --> 00:18:05,640 Speaker 1: was free Hong Kong stuff. I mean, look, that's wild, 353 00:18:05,960 --> 00:18:08,040 Speaker 1: wild stories. So I can't even hear I can't even 354 00:18:08,119 --> 00:18:09,919 Speaker 1: let you at the words out. That story is wild. 355 00:18:10,119 --> 00:18:12,560 Speaker 1: And that's the kind of stuff that people listen to 356 00:18:12,600 --> 00:18:14,240 Speaker 1: when they're not listening to this show. This is what 357 00:18:14,280 --> 00:18:17,159 Speaker 1: they're spending more their time listening to pitch for you 358 00:18:17,280 --> 00:18:20,480 Speaker 1: live on air. Yeah, do you do to focus groups? 359 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:22,760 Speaker 1: Are just the pulling a little bit of both? Take 360 00:18:22,840 --> 00:18:25,760 Speaker 1: me to the focus group, you know, Yeah, I want 361 00:18:25,760 --> 00:18:27,960 Speaker 1: to see. 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I'm Kevin Cereli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg, 371 00:18:59,720 --> 00:19:02,679 Speaker 1: Tell of Vision and Bloomberg Radio. My guest with me 372 00:19:02,760 --> 00:19:08,040 Speaker 1: here in studio, Christen Han, Democratic strategist, Scott Transfer, Republican strategist. 373 00:19:08,359 --> 00:19:12,200 Speaker 1: And did you see Don Jr. On the View today? 374 00:19:14,160 --> 00:19:17,000 Speaker 1: It was like Thanksgiving at the Soilli household and Delco. 375 00:19:17,119 --> 00:19:19,600 Speaker 1: I mean, seriously, I gotta be honest. If you come 376 00:19:19,640 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: from a from an immediate core family where you only 377 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:26,160 Speaker 1: are in one political party, that conversation around the view 378 00:19:26,200 --> 00:19:28,320 Speaker 1: table is like a foreign concept to you. But if 379 00:19:28,359 --> 00:19:30,560 Speaker 1: you come from where I come from, where everyone has 380 00:19:30,600 --> 00:19:34,480 Speaker 1: a different you can't get a word. You're like, oh wow, okay, 381 00:19:34,480 --> 00:19:35,879 Speaker 1: so this is what Thanks to Giving is going to 382 00:19:35,960 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: be like this year. Okay, cool, all they needed was turkey, right, Christian, 383 00:19:39,720 --> 00:19:41,840 Speaker 1: It's like that. It's like that Saturday Night Live skipped 384 00:19:41,840 --> 00:19:43,800 Speaker 1: from a couple of years ago with the Adele's song 385 00:19:44,200 --> 00:19:46,720 Speaker 1: The Little Girl just goes from the other side and 386 00:19:46,800 --> 00:19:49,240 Speaker 1: you had to like play the song and everybody stopped 387 00:19:49,240 --> 00:19:52,600 Speaker 1: talking and stopped talking. I mean more, it is gonna 388 00:19:52,640 --> 00:19:55,119 Speaker 1: the Bipartisan Policy Center. They're hosting an event in a 389 00:19:55,160 --> 00:19:58,680 Speaker 1: couple of weeks. Uh, just specifically about what to talk 390 00:19:58,720 --> 00:20:02,280 Speaker 1: about on thank Skiving and how to navigate this. I mean, 391 00:20:02,280 --> 00:20:05,119 Speaker 1: where I grew up, everybody had an opinion of politics 392 00:20:05,119 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: and across partied lines. I want to play for you, though, 393 00:20:08,280 --> 00:20:11,560 Speaker 1: about what Don told me earlier this week on this 394 00:20:11,600 --> 00:20:14,000 Speaker 1: program about Rudy Giuliani, because we got to get into 395 00:20:14,040 --> 00:20:17,280 Speaker 1: the latest impeachment saga of what happened today. And I 396 00:20:17,320 --> 00:20:19,360 Speaker 1: asked him point blank, Chris, and I said, is Rudy 397 00:20:19,640 --> 00:20:22,080 Speaker 1: really the best messenger for your dad? Take a listen 398 00:20:22,080 --> 00:20:24,440 Speaker 1: to what he told me. I think the relationship is great, 399 00:20:24,520 --> 00:20:26,280 Speaker 1: you know. I think the reality is Rudy's Rudy is 400 00:20:26,320 --> 00:20:27,840 Speaker 1: a fighter, so he gets up there and fights. I 401 00:20:27,880 --> 00:20:30,479 Speaker 1: don't know we know about the details about what's actually 402 00:20:30,480 --> 00:20:32,240 Speaker 1: going on there because I'm not in the administration, I 403 00:20:32,280 --> 00:20:34,560 Speaker 1: frankly don't get involved as seeing what happens. You know, 404 00:20:35,240 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 1: with that is, you know, being a big part of 405 00:20:37,440 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 1: the book is you know, being the number two targets 406 00:20:39,960 --> 00:20:43,520 Speaker 1: after my father of the original uh impeachment inquiry were 407 00:20:43,520 --> 00:20:46,680 Speaker 1: also known as the Russia hoax, the Mullering inquisition. Uh. 408 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:49,000 Speaker 1: You know, so so I've been there, done that scene it. Uh. 409 00:20:49,040 --> 00:20:50,920 Speaker 1: You know, I appreciate having people that fight. I don't 410 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:52,840 Speaker 1: know the actual involvement. I don't know that it matters 411 00:20:52,880 --> 00:20:54,919 Speaker 1: that much. I think the reality is my father released 412 00:20:55,000 --> 00:20:58,000 Speaker 1: the actual transcripts. Kevin. Uh, you know, people seem to 413 00:20:58,040 --> 00:21:01,080 Speaker 1: neglect that. You know, I read about every days democracy 414 00:21:01,160 --> 00:21:05,840 Speaker 1: dies in darkness. So, I mean, I guess the relationship 415 00:21:05,880 --> 00:21:10,000 Speaker 1: between President Trump and Rudy Giuliani is doing well. The 416 00:21:10,080 --> 00:21:14,760 Speaker 1: latest impeachment update House committees investigating President Trump, we're getting 417 00:21:14,760 --> 00:21:18,800 Speaker 1: closed or testimony Thursday from Jennifer Williams, a special advisor 418 00:21:18,880 --> 00:21:22,200 Speaker 1: for Europe and Vice President Mike Pence's office, and former 419 00:21:22,320 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: National Security Advisor John Bolton has also been invited to testify. 420 00:21:26,840 --> 00:21:28,840 Speaker 1: But his council told House Committee said he will not 421 00:21:28,920 --> 00:21:33,760 Speaker 1: appear without a court ruling. More transcripts for Lease State 422 00:21:33,800 --> 00:21:39,200 Speaker 1: Department official George kent testimony was released earlier today. Kent 423 00:21:39,880 --> 00:21:44,840 Speaker 1: Kent describing a quote unquote awkward incident in which a 424 00:21:44,960 --> 00:21:50,359 Speaker 1: US diplomat chided Ukrainian officials over a politically motivated investigation, 425 00:21:50,520 --> 00:21:54,520 Speaker 1: only to be reminded about the probes the Americans were 426 00:21:54,560 --> 00:21:59,160 Speaker 1: pressuring them to undertake. Uh, I don't know, I mean. 427 00:21:59,680 --> 00:22:02,440 Speaker 1: Then he went on to say that that Trump wanted Biden, 428 00:22:02,920 --> 00:22:06,240 Speaker 1: and that was in a statement. The words investigations, Biden 429 00:22:06,359 --> 00:22:10,040 Speaker 1: and Clinton were to be required elements of a public announcement. 430 00:22:10,080 --> 00:22:13,840 Speaker 1: The new Ukraine president of Vladimir Zelinsky was being asked 431 00:22:13,880 --> 00:22:15,600 Speaker 1: by the US to make. That's what Kent told the 432 00:22:15,640 --> 00:22:22,159 Speaker 1: impeachment investigators. Any big, big bomb shells here, Scott, Not 433 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:25,320 Speaker 1: enough to move the polls. I don't think. Look, it's 434 00:22:25,320 --> 00:22:27,680 Speaker 1: funny you covered it earlier this week. You know, Morning 435 00:22:27,720 --> 00:22:30,720 Speaker 1: Consult saw a four point drop in support for impeachment. 436 00:22:30,760 --> 00:22:33,320 Speaker 1: Thank you for listening. Yeah yeah, yeah, four point drop. 437 00:22:33,400 --> 00:22:35,320 Speaker 1: Five thirty eight has a pretty good aggregate of all 438 00:22:35,359 --> 00:22:37,679 Speaker 1: the polls out there and pulling This is difficult. As 439 00:22:37,680 --> 00:22:40,120 Speaker 1: I tell the class I teach, wording is very important. 440 00:22:40,119 --> 00:22:44,240 Speaker 1: Most people teach. I teach polling an American university as 441 00:22:44,240 --> 00:22:46,280 Speaker 1: a grad too, So I'm gonna get a little my tuition. 442 00:22:47,480 --> 00:22:51,600 Speaker 1: You can you can a student upholster. Yeah. Actually on 443 00:22:51,640 --> 00:22:53,880 Speaker 1: the mid term they had to write their own impeachment 444 00:22:54,000 --> 00:22:57,080 Speaker 1: question because as they learn in class, how you phrase 445 00:22:57,160 --> 00:23:01,920 Speaker 1: the question can can affect the results. Yeah. And so 446 00:23:02,080 --> 00:23:05,080 Speaker 1: my point being is is we will see, you know, 447 00:23:05,160 --> 00:23:08,119 Speaker 1: all these revelations, all these new cycles. We saw some 448 00:23:08,160 --> 00:23:11,320 Speaker 1: of the polling dipped down below fifty for support for impeachment. Again, 449 00:23:11,440 --> 00:23:13,440 Speaker 1: it's all important because there's a significant amount of people 450 00:23:13,440 --> 00:23:15,960 Speaker 1: who think impeachment means removal from office, which it does not. 451 00:23:16,560 --> 00:23:22,000 Speaker 1: And so exactly I will say one thing that I 452 00:23:22,000 --> 00:23:24,720 Speaker 1: mean because I have been watching all the national polls 453 00:23:24,720 --> 00:23:27,280 Speaker 1: as well and the aggregates of all of those. What 454 00:23:27,520 --> 00:23:30,879 Speaker 1: is interesting though, what I've seen and among independence as 455 00:23:30,920 --> 00:23:32,840 Speaker 1: we're going in district by district and a lot of 456 00:23:32,840 --> 00:23:35,880 Speaker 1: our and a lot of our more with our moderate 457 00:23:36,040 --> 00:23:39,400 Speaker 1: Democrats around the house, UM, we are no longer underwater 458 00:23:39,480 --> 00:23:42,240 Speaker 1: and impeachment, and it would be surprising, UM, on the 459 00:23:42,920 --> 00:23:45,280 Speaker 1: right voters and independent. So that's been actually really surprising 460 00:23:45,280 --> 00:23:46,920 Speaker 1: to me because I would that we would have been Yeah, 461 00:23:46,920 --> 00:23:48,520 Speaker 1: that's a good point. Do me a favorite talking the 462 00:23:48,520 --> 00:23:50,600 Speaker 1: mic too, because I know, I'm, I'm, We're in this. 463 00:23:50,720 --> 00:23:52,720 Speaker 1: It's tough, but I want to make sure people can 464 00:23:52,720 --> 00:23:56,080 Speaker 1: hear all of the wisdom from our good friend Kristen Horn. 465 00:23:57,640 --> 00:24:00,680 Speaker 1: I was gonna say, and what's the native native? Yeah, 466 00:24:00,680 --> 00:24:03,040 Speaker 1: Austin Blue Dog, which would be a Republican from my 467 00:24:03,119 --> 00:24:07,040 Speaker 1: hometown of the Beach. Yeah. But the question I have 468 00:24:07,160 --> 00:24:10,000 Speaker 1: is we certainly see it. You know, Democrats and independence 469 00:24:10,040 --> 00:24:12,399 Speaker 1: have ticked up and their support for impeachment. Republicans have 470 00:24:12,480 --> 00:24:14,879 Speaker 1: pretty much stayed firm. Do you think the independence in 471 00:24:14,920 --> 00:24:17,280 Speaker 1: those districts that you're seeing are they going to hold 472 00:24:17,400 --> 00:24:19,920 Speaker 1: or is it going to taper off as this basically 473 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:22,280 Speaker 1: trails on for the next three months. I mean, I 474 00:24:22,520 --> 00:24:24,639 Speaker 1: think that that we get closer and closer to the election, 475 00:24:24,680 --> 00:24:27,119 Speaker 1: it just depends on how it all unfolds. But just 476 00:24:27,240 --> 00:24:32,199 Speaker 1: you know, if you're asking the the the question about impeachment. Um, 477 00:24:32,480 --> 00:24:36,199 Speaker 1: there was a noticeable change after and it wasn't a 478 00:24:36,240 --> 00:24:39,960 Speaker 1: transcript that the White House released, it was a summary. Um. 479 00:24:40,000 --> 00:24:42,720 Speaker 1: But there's a noticeable change. I was struck speaking of 480 00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:46,920 Speaker 1: noticeable change. Senator Lindsey Graham, Republican from South Carolina, who 481 00:24:47,040 --> 00:24:49,879 Speaker 1: yesterday we reported was saying that he doesn't think the 482 00:24:49,880 --> 00:24:54,560 Speaker 1: Biden should be dragged in to the impeachment proceedings, the 483 00:24:54,560 --> 00:24:57,720 Speaker 1: public impeachment proceedings that are going to schedule to take 484 00:24:57,760 --> 00:25:02,560 Speaker 1: place on Wednesday, buckle up. Uh. And then today he 485 00:25:02,600 --> 00:25:04,880 Speaker 1: had this to say, take a listen to Linsagram, Well 486 00:25:04,920 --> 00:25:07,960 Speaker 1: make that decision, not the president. Wow. So I mean, 487 00:25:07,960 --> 00:25:10,120 Speaker 1: now it's appearing he's leaving the door open about whether 488 00:25:10,200 --> 00:25:13,960 Speaker 1: or not this is going to involve involve the Bidens. 489 00:25:14,040 --> 00:25:17,080 Speaker 1: But I just don't see how. I mean, you and I, 490 00:25:17,280 --> 00:25:19,679 Speaker 1: all three of us in this room, as true as 491 00:25:19,680 --> 00:25:22,320 Speaker 1: we're sitting here, know how public hearings work. And the 492 00:25:22,359 --> 00:25:26,639 Speaker 1: way public hearings work is the Republicans get their stab, 493 00:25:27,040 --> 00:25:29,800 Speaker 1: their their their take on the on the witnesses, and 494 00:25:29,840 --> 00:25:33,760 Speaker 1: the Democrats get theirs. And this is literally going to 495 00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:37,920 Speaker 1: be months of public hearings of attack ads for Republicans 496 00:25:38,000 --> 00:25:42,159 Speaker 1: to put against Joe Biden. Yeah, pretty much. And again, 497 00:25:43,080 --> 00:25:45,200 Speaker 1: we as a public have gotten really used to public 498 00:25:45,200 --> 00:25:48,040 Speaker 1: hearings over the last three years and we've seen how 499 00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:50,080 Speaker 1: they do it when they let other people ask the questions, 500 00:25:50,080 --> 00:25:52,880 Speaker 1: when they let the members ask the questions. I think 501 00:25:52,920 --> 00:25:55,320 Speaker 1: everyone's gotten pretty good at it, and everyone's realized that, 502 00:25:55,359 --> 00:25:58,639 Speaker 1: you know, the impeachment hearings in the House are a spectacle. 503 00:25:59,119 --> 00:26:01,360 Speaker 1: The trial that potentially will happen to the Senate will 504 00:26:01,359 --> 00:26:03,680 Speaker 1: be a spectacle, and it's probably gonna overrun some of 505 00:26:03,720 --> 00:26:05,439 Speaker 1: these primaries. So it'll be interesting to see how it 506 00:26:05,440 --> 00:26:07,160 Speaker 1: plays out, and it will be plenty of good TV. 507 00:26:07,440 --> 00:26:11,119 Speaker 1: If you're Joe Biden Kristen, are you nervous about these 508 00:26:11,160 --> 00:26:15,280 Speaker 1: public hearings? I don't. I don't think so. Um, I 509 00:26:15,320 --> 00:26:18,639 Speaker 1: wouldn't be really because the Republicans are just gonna go 510 00:26:18,680 --> 00:26:20,760 Speaker 1: after him one by one. Jim Jordan mark out his 511 00:26:20,760 --> 00:26:23,520 Speaker 1: Freedom Caucus everyone. Yeah, but I mean, look, you you've 512 00:26:23,520 --> 00:26:25,560 Speaker 1: got these people who are going to watch these crazy 513 00:26:25,640 --> 00:26:28,879 Speaker 1: Jim Jordan. I'm sorry, but go after him. You know, 514 00:26:29,000 --> 00:26:30,680 Speaker 1: there's the sympathy card there. I don't know, I think 515 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:32,840 Speaker 1: it's not all you think Jim Jordan gives by the 516 00:26:32,840 --> 00:26:37,840 Speaker 1: sympathy card. I don't know. I'm just saying. I mean, 517 00:26:37,880 --> 00:26:39,760 Speaker 1: you see them, you see them going after him like that, 518 00:26:39,840 --> 00:26:41,639 Speaker 1: and I just think it's not It's not as simple 519 00:26:41,680 --> 00:26:44,639 Speaker 1: as Juliani lawyered up. He said on Twitter today that 520 00:26:44,720 --> 00:26:48,160 Speaker 1: he would be represented by three lawyers, including his longtime 521 00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:52,200 Speaker 1: friend Robert J. Costello. The Higher show how seriously Mr 522 00:26:52,200 --> 00:26:55,800 Speaker 1: Giuliani is treating the inquiry by federal prosecutors in Manhattan 523 00:26:55,960 --> 00:26:59,240 Speaker 1: who are investigating whether he violated lobbying balls and his 524 00:26:59,320 --> 00:27:03,640 Speaker 1: efforts to got damaging information about Joe Biden. That, according 525 00:27:03,680 --> 00:27:06,000 Speaker 1: to The New York Times, coming up, what's on the 526 00:27:06,040 --> 00:27:08,960 Speaker 1: panel's radar. I know what's on my radar, and let's 527 00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:13,040 Speaker 1: just say that it involves Canada and Drake. That's a 528 00:27:13,119 --> 00:27:16,879 Speaker 1: tea house for a tease. Panels stays Kristen Han, Austin's 529 00:27:16,920 --> 00:27:20,720 Speaker 1: Kristen Han Democratic Strategy Senior advisor Rock Solutions, former Blue 530 00:27:20,760 --> 00:27:23,840 Speaker 1: Dog Coalition COMPS director, and Scott Tranner of Laguna Beach, 531 00:27:23,880 --> 00:27:26,960 Speaker 1: CEO of Optimist and former data science director for Marco 532 00:27:27,160 --> 00:27:33,000 Speaker 1: Rubio for President. Uh we just got a headline. Uh. 533 00:27:33,040 --> 00:27:36,359 Speaker 1: The AP is reporting at Bloomberg Terminal reporting at Michael Bloomberg, 534 00:27:36,720 --> 00:27:39,320 Speaker 1: the billionaire former mayor of New York City, is opening 535 00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:46,120 Speaker 1: the door to a presidential campaign. His Advisor has released 536 00:27:46,119 --> 00:27:49,520 Speaker 1: a statement saying as much a public statement. Bloomburger Course 537 00:27:49,600 --> 00:27:52,480 Speaker 1: is the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the 538 00:27:52,520 --> 00:27:56,159 Speaker 1: parent company of Bloomberg News. Download the Bloomberg Sound On 539 00:27:56,240 --> 00:27:59,400 Speaker 1: podcast on Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by 540 00:27:59,400 --> 00:28:01,800 Speaker 1: downloading the Boomberg Business App. You can also find us 541 00:28:01,920 --> 00:28:04,520 Speaker 1: on Radio dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. I'm 542 00:28:04,600 --> 00:28:09,240 Speaker 1: Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington correspondent for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. 543 00:28:09,359 --> 00:28:17,200 Speaker 1: You're listening to Bloomberg. This is Bloomberg's Sound On with 544 00:28:17,320 --> 00:28:21,760 Speaker 1: Kevin Sireley on Bloomberg and one on five point seven 545 00:28:21,800 --> 00:28:25,720 Speaker 1: f M h D two. I'm Kevin Cirelli, Chief Washington 546 00:28:25,720 --> 00:28:29,480 Speaker 1: corresponded for Bloomberg Television and Bloomberg Radio. My two guests 547 00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:33,200 Speaker 1: with me here in studio. Kristen Han from Austin, Texas, 548 00:28:33,600 --> 00:28:36,440 Speaker 1: Democratic Strategies, Christen, where's the best place to get barbecue 549 00:28:36,480 --> 00:28:38,960 Speaker 1: in Austin? Oh? My gosh. So I'm not gonna say 550 00:28:39,000 --> 00:28:41,160 Speaker 1: what everybody else says. What does everybody else say? Some 551 00:28:41,200 --> 00:28:44,000 Speaker 1: of us? Everybody else says like black Franklin's need to 552 00:28:44,000 --> 00:28:47,040 Speaker 1: wait in line forever? Right inside the City House Park 553 00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:51,040 Speaker 1: barbecue or Bert's right outside of the Salt Lake. Alright, cool, 554 00:28:51,400 --> 00:28:56,600 Speaker 1: Scott Tranner's excuse me, Scott, transfer Laguna Beach native, Scott, 555 00:28:56,600 --> 00:28:57,680 Speaker 1: did you go to high school with any of the 556 00:28:57,760 --> 00:29:02,560 Speaker 1: Laguna Beach kids and Republican strategies? I did not, although 557 00:29:02,800 --> 00:29:05,400 Speaker 1: they were during my time. And you know what what happened. 558 00:29:05,400 --> 00:29:07,479 Speaker 1: Just couldn't make the mp I just yeah, I just 559 00:29:07,640 --> 00:29:10,760 Speaker 1: I wasn't pretty enough and I didn't have enough drama. Yeah, Scott, 560 00:29:10,800 --> 00:29:13,880 Speaker 1: who always bring face for radio? They tell me, say, 561 00:29:14,000 --> 00:29:16,479 Speaker 1: that's what my boss is telling me. Hey, we always 562 00:29:16,480 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: bring the drab out here on Bluebird Radio with Christine Rotter, 563 00:29:21,320 --> 00:29:24,960 Speaker 1: executive producer is cringing right now, Okay, it's time now 564 00:29:24,960 --> 00:29:28,600 Speaker 1: for my favorite segment of the show. What's on your radar? 565 00:29:29,040 --> 00:29:32,160 Speaker 1: Scott ran look in the beach. What's on your radar? Well, 566 00:29:32,160 --> 00:29:35,440 Speaker 1: we just had a surprise upset in Kentucky where the 567 00:29:35,480 --> 00:29:40,600 Speaker 1: Democrat and knocked off the incoment Governor Matt Bevan. Yeah, 568 00:29:40,720 --> 00:29:42,880 Speaker 1: but sheer and that was you know, the polling was close, 569 00:29:42,960 --> 00:29:46,840 Speaker 1: but you know, Kentucky flipping um It's governorship a year 570 00:29:46,880 --> 00:29:50,480 Speaker 1: before a huge Senate election because Senator Mitch McConnell is 571 00:29:50,600 --> 00:29:53,080 Speaker 1: up in a year. I think everyone, you know, we 572 00:29:53,080 --> 00:29:56,000 Speaker 1: saw the post mortems um saying, you know, Mitch McConnell 573 00:29:56,000 --> 00:29:58,520 Speaker 1: should be worried, and I can tell you it's not 574 00:29:58,600 --> 00:30:00,640 Speaker 1: the case. But it's certainly are going to raise a 575 00:30:00,640 --> 00:30:02,680 Speaker 1: whole lot of money. Why isn't it the case. The 576 00:30:02,680 --> 00:30:05,120 Speaker 1: reason why it's not the case is every single Republican 577 00:30:05,200 --> 00:30:10,640 Speaker 1: down ballot one. Okay, so but hey, let's let it 578 00:30:10,680 --> 00:30:13,160 Speaker 1: be the case. But it's like, yeah, but let's let's 579 00:30:13,240 --> 00:30:15,239 Speaker 1: let Mitch McConnell raise a hundred million dollars and then 580 00:30:15,240 --> 00:30:20,280 Speaker 1: funnel that places like Arizona the reverse effect. Again, I 581 00:30:20,560 --> 00:30:22,320 Speaker 1: agree with you a thousand percent. I was just talking 582 00:30:22,320 --> 00:30:26,160 Speaker 1: to a McConnell adviser earlier today and I just don't 583 00:30:26,320 --> 00:30:28,800 Speaker 1: see how Yeah, I don't, But I look forward, you know, 584 00:30:28,960 --> 00:30:33,120 Speaker 1: making a thing, raise a lot of money, Yeah, workout 585 00:30:33,240 --> 00:30:38,440 Speaker 1: for better work. Looking at Arizona. What about Arizona? We 586 00:30:38,520 --> 00:30:40,080 Speaker 1: can do that for a minute. Well, I mean I 587 00:30:40,160 --> 00:30:44,160 Speaker 1: think that you know, we got thank you, good fund 588 00:30:44,240 --> 00:30:46,520 Speaker 1: raising candidate on the Democratic side. Yeah, and we have 589 00:30:46,640 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: Mark Kelly. He's he's you know, I was saying, being 590 00:30:49,360 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: an astronaut is like the third most impression. You know, 591 00:30:51,920 --> 00:30:54,120 Speaker 1: I want to be so bad and I always say this, 592 00:30:54,240 --> 00:30:55,520 Speaker 1: I want to go to outer space and do a 593 00:30:55,600 --> 00:30:58,040 Speaker 1: live shot from space so bad. I want to you know, 594 00:30:58,160 --> 00:31:01,080 Speaker 1: like Kevin, you can say there's any funny do that. 595 00:31:05,960 --> 00:31:07,800 Speaker 1: Thank you for believing to give me what's on your radar. 596 00:31:08,480 --> 00:31:11,840 Speaker 1: So I'm gonna go back to the Veterans day. You know, 597 00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:14,160 Speaker 1: there's so many great groups they're doing things out there, 598 00:31:14,200 --> 00:31:15,520 Speaker 1: and I know that we all need to figure out 599 00:31:15,560 --> 00:31:18,240 Speaker 1: ways we can get back, but I could not. There 600 00:31:18,400 --> 00:31:23,440 Speaker 1: is you think about the you know, almost twenty years 601 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:25,880 Speaker 1: of RACK and Afghanistan. So you've got this really great 602 00:31:25,960 --> 00:31:28,479 Speaker 1: organization out there at RACK and Afghanistan Veterans of America 603 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:31,400 Speaker 1: I A via dot org. They're doing so many things 604 00:31:31,800 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: to call attention to UM. The alarming increase. I think 605 00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:38,560 Speaker 1: it's a hundred and six the veterans fair side in 606 00:31:38,720 --> 00:31:41,800 Speaker 1: veteran suicide rates going UM. So this is a really 607 00:31:41,880 --> 00:31:44,800 Speaker 1: if you're looking for an organization to go to, to 608 00:31:44,920 --> 00:31:46,600 Speaker 1: give to that you know that your money is going 609 00:31:46,640 --> 00:31:49,440 Speaker 1: to be put to really good use to help veterans 610 00:31:49,560 --> 00:31:52,960 Speaker 1: to further good causes. UM. You know they're it, So 611 00:31:53,320 --> 00:31:56,080 Speaker 1: I would give a shout out to dog Tag Bakery. Yeah, 612 00:31:56,160 --> 00:31:58,280 Speaker 1: that's one of my favorite places in all of Washington, 613 00:31:58,400 --> 00:32:02,240 Speaker 1: d C. H Tag Bakery in Georgetown. It's a financial 614 00:32:02,280 --> 00:32:05,880 Speaker 1: literacy learning program. They've actually partnered with Georgetown and they 615 00:32:06,000 --> 00:32:08,320 Speaker 1: hire veterans as well as their families and it's all 616 00:32:08,360 --> 00:32:11,920 Speaker 1: about empowering small business owners. And they sell products in 617 00:32:12,080 --> 00:32:14,800 Speaker 1: dog Tag Coffee Sandwiches in the Lake, but they also 618 00:32:14,880 --> 00:32:17,000 Speaker 1: sell things like hot sauce. Let me tell you something. 619 00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:19,600 Speaker 1: I got dog Tag Bakery hot sauce and it's made 620 00:32:19,640 --> 00:32:22,480 Speaker 1: by veterans. Best hot sauce in my life. Yeah, so 621 00:32:22,560 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: go to dog Tag help the vets. And that's a 622 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,280 Speaker 1: great one. You know what's on my radar because this 623 00:32:26,440 --> 00:32:29,600 Speaker 1: is the worst pivot that we We've actually really done 624 00:32:29,720 --> 00:32:32,640 Speaker 1: very different topics today. You don't want to know what's 625 00:32:32,640 --> 00:32:34,840 Speaker 1: on I t s that a little Drake, you know, Drake. 626 00:32:35,440 --> 00:32:38,680 Speaker 1: I'm gonna read from Bloomberg News Canada for a second. 627 00:32:39,080 --> 00:32:42,400 Speaker 1: And here's the headline, an influential American democrats. Oh no, 628 00:32:42,600 --> 00:32:47,920 Speaker 1: wrong headline, wrong one. Here we go from Bloomberg News Canada. Drake. 629 00:32:48,320 --> 00:32:52,400 Speaker 1: Drake is teaming up with Canopy Growth Corporation for a 630 00:32:52,520 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: new venture to sell recreational cannabis and accessories in Canada 631 00:32:56,640 --> 00:32:59,600 Speaker 1: and abroad, a move that could quickly established the hip 632 00:32:59,640 --> 00:33:02,320 Speaker 1: hops per Star as a major player in the legal 633 00:33:02,680 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 1: pot industry. The joint venture, dubbed more Life Growth, will 634 00:33:06,360 --> 00:33:10,840 Speaker 1: see Canopy expand its celebrity partnerships portfolio to include the 635 00:33:11,520 --> 00:33:14,640 Speaker 1: musician famous for hits such as God's Plan, Hotline, Bling, 636 00:33:14,960 --> 00:33:17,480 Speaker 1: and Best I Ever Had. I say, this is a question, 637 00:33:17,520 --> 00:33:19,640 Speaker 1: how old do you think Drake is Kristen? I don't know, 638 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,160 Speaker 1: But wasn't he like on Disney or the Mickey Mountain 639 00:33:23,480 --> 00:33:27,760 Speaker 1: Now he was on he was on rose Place. It 640 00:33:27,840 --> 00:33:30,480 Speaker 1: was the other one. Drake was on the Disney Channel. 641 00:33:30,520 --> 00:33:33,920 Speaker 1: I'm so not cool. Drake was on the Disney Channel 642 00:33:34,760 --> 00:33:38,640 Speaker 1: three years old, longer than I thought that he was 643 00:33:38,720 --> 00:33:42,360 Speaker 1: going to be. He was on the Grass That was it. 644 00:33:42,640 --> 00:33:45,000 Speaker 1: But I think it's interesting that now he's become the 645 00:33:45,000 --> 00:33:49,360 Speaker 1: most high profile celebrity to really get involved in, uh 646 00:33:50,240 --> 00:33:53,560 Speaker 1: the legalization issue and the economic issue, which is really 647 00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:56,560 Speaker 1: uh blossomed. I mean, he is the most high profile 648 00:33:56,640 --> 00:33:59,400 Speaker 1: person to do so. He's got an estimated net worth 649 00:33:59,440 --> 00:34:02,720 Speaker 1: of a hundred fifty billion dollars over sixty million followers 650 00:34:02,760 --> 00:34:05,920 Speaker 1: on Instagram, thirty eight mill on Twitter. He's ventured into 651 00:34:06,000 --> 00:34:09,359 Speaker 1: the champagne and whiskey markets. But this is a really 652 00:34:09,440 --> 00:34:12,000 Speaker 1: big deal in the sense that he's the first celebrity, 653 00:34:12,120 --> 00:34:15,640 Speaker 1: the biggest celebrity, to really lend his investment in and 654 00:34:16,239 --> 00:34:20,200 Speaker 1: let's just say, the private sector has outpaced regulations on 655 00:34:20,320 --> 00:34:23,840 Speaker 1: this particular issue. My thanks to Kristen Han, My thanks 656 00:34:23,920 --> 00:34:26,840 Speaker 1: to Scott Transfer. Download the Bloomberg Sound On podcast on 657 00:34:26,960 --> 00:34:29,200 Speaker 1: Apple iTunes, at Bloomberg dot com, or by downloading the 658 00:34:29,200 --> 00:34:31,520 Speaker 1: Bloomberg Business App. You can also find us on Radio 659 00:34:31,600 --> 00:34:33,960 Speaker 1: dot com, I Heart Radio, and Spotify. What are you 660 00:34:34,040 --> 00:34:36,680 Speaker 1: doing for veterans weekend? This weekend? How are you giving back? 661 00:34:36,800 --> 00:34:39,320 Speaker 1: Let me know. I'm Kevin Sarelli, Chief Washington correspondent for 662 00:34:39,360 --> 00:34:41,760 Speaker 1: Bloomberg TV and Bloomberg Radio. You're listening to Bloomberg