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Speaker 1: And now Move the Sticks with Daniel Jeremiah and Bucky Brooks.

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Speaker 1: What's up everybody, Happy New Year, Welcome to move the sticks. Buck.

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Speaker 1: How are you doing, my friend.

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Speaker 2: Man, I'm good, DJ I am happy and excited, grateful

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Speaker 2: for a terrific twenty twenty four, but looking forward to

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Speaker 2: everything that is on the horizon in twenty twenty five,

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Speaker 2: particularly all the great stuff that we have been blessed

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Speaker 2: to do. Just so, I just want to be able

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Speaker 2: to say gratitude and look, we've been doing this for

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Speaker 2: a long time and at a time when the industry

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Speaker 2: is topsy turvy. Look, man, I'm blessed and fortunate to

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Speaker 2: have such a great partner in you.

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Speaker 1: Well, I'm very thankful for you as well. And it's cool.

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Speaker 1: One of the things we both get to travel around

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Speaker 1: sure you've experienced the same thing I have, which is

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Speaker 1: you run into people all the time. Hey, Neil love

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Speaker 1: the podcast. We'll listen to podcast. We're listening forever. They'll

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Speaker 1: reference something from a rookie draft, they'll reference something from

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Speaker 1: one of the conversations that we've had. So it's cool

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Speaker 1: when you know that people inside the industry or.

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Speaker 3: I think that's the coolest thing in DJ.

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Speaker 2: I would say the coolest thing is like some of

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Speaker 2: the young guys that adjusting to the industry, like talking

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Speaker 2: about Man, I've been listening to your podcasts forever and

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Speaker 2: all of that stuff, and so it just kind of

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Speaker 2: reminds me that this is not only where we express opinions,

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Speaker 2: but it's an opportunity to kind of pay it forward

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Speaker 2: of give it back to another generation of evaluators.

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Speaker 1: No doubt. A couple of things I want to hit

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Speaker 1: on in this episode. Buck. We did some college football

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Speaker 1: stuff yesterday. Well again, be getting to a lot more

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Speaker 1: in the postseason and the stories there are fascinating. Let's

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Speaker 1: So when you look at the NFC as we sit

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Speaker 2: And I'm saying this even though I guess koc is young,

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Speaker 3: And quarterback play is critical.

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Speaker 2: In every quarterback that we talk about there, they have

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Speaker 2: just goes to show you that, man, it's coaching and quarterback.

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Speaker 2: We can talk about a lot of different things. But

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Speaker 2: and Brian dave Ball said this, and the funny he

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Speaker 2: you have a chance. And that is evident when we

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Speaker 1: My analogy is it's like going to a car lot

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Speaker 1: The guy goes, hey, show you these used cars over here.

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Speaker 1: We got it. I still used car a lot over here.

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Speaker 1: These AFC teams like, whoa, look at these shiny new cars.

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Speaker 1: high sticker. But we'll take it. They'll take the new car.

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Speaker 1: Excited for what's in store here on the show. As

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Speaker 3: Yeah. Man, it should be a lot of fun.

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Speaker 2: This is what we look forward to when it comes

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