WEBVTT - INTERVIEW: Chris Patrick On Therapy Through Music, Hunger, Honesty, Mafiathon Freestyle + More 0:00:00.360 --> 0:00:00.760 I don't know. 0:00:01.560 --> 0:00:04.600 Every day a waiting click your ass up the breakfast 0:00:04.680 --> 0:00:06.440 club finish for y'all dumb. 0:00:07.080 --> 0:00:08.680 Yes, it's the world most dangerous morning to show to 0:00:08.720 --> 0:00:12.640 Breakfast Club. Charalamaine, the God, Lauren Lroossa, Jess Hilarius, DJ Envy, 0:00:12.680 --> 0:00:15.440 but just An Beyond here today. And I'm mad because 0:00:15.480 --> 0:00:17.760 you know there's a guy that we have here right now. Man, 0:00:17.760 --> 0:00:19.400 he goes by the name of Chris Patrick. Sleuth to 0:00:19.440 --> 0:00:22.840 Chris Patrick, how are you? I'm mad because niholosimone put 0:00:22.840 --> 0:00:24.680 me onto your music and she not even God damn it. 0:00:24.800 --> 0:00:26.600 I know I just saw yesterday, Dad. 0:00:26.920 --> 0:00:29.760 Yeah, day, she souldn't be here this morning. 0:00:30.080 --> 0:00:30.680 Yeah, I don't know. 0:00:31.320 --> 0:00:31.880 That's crazy. 0:00:31.880 --> 0:00:33.680 You got a new EP, Pray for Me, coming out 0:00:33.680 --> 0:00:37.360 on a twelve twelve, and you've been described like I 0:00:37.960 --> 0:00:40.200 I've heard you describe yourself as coming from a place 0:00:40.200 --> 0:00:43.560 of hunger and self belief. What was the exact moment 0:00:43.600 --> 0:00:46.080 you realized music wasn't just something you love or something 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:47.199 you you had to do? 0:00:47.960 --> 0:00:48.920 Uh? 0:00:49.240 --> 0:00:51.360 If I'm be honest, I think back when I was 0:00:51.640 --> 0:00:54.720 in college, I had entered like a competition, ended up 0:00:54.720 --> 0:00:56.640 winning it, chanced to open for like Travis. So like, 0:00:56.680 --> 0:00:58.279 I feel like after that moment, that was the moment 0:00:58.280 --> 0:00:59.880 where I decided, like, Yo, this is what I'm gonna do. 0:00:59.880 --> 0:01:01.280 I know how I was gonna do it, but I 0:01:01.360 --> 0:01:02.800 just was kind of like, this is what it is. 0:01:02.840 --> 0:01:05.720 Travis Scott, Traviscott, Travis, Yeah, Scott. 0:01:06.120 --> 0:01:06.320 Fuck? 0:01:06.600 --> 0:01:07.119 What was that? 0:01:07.200 --> 0:01:09.480 So leading up to that moment when you're about to 0:01:09.520 --> 0:01:11.200 open up for him, what's the self talk that you're 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:12.480 going through, because you do a lot of self talk 0:01:12.480 --> 0:01:13.039 on this project. 0:01:13.120 --> 0:01:13.720 Yeah, self talk. 0:01:13.720 --> 0:01:16.800 You're going through new artists opening up for Travis Scott, 0:01:17.000 --> 0:01:18.080 global artists. 0:01:18.080 --> 0:01:19.679 I mean back then, because I was in college when 0:01:19.680 --> 0:01:22.160 that happened, I was just telling myself like, br this 0:01:22.200 --> 0:01:23.800 is crazy, but I just gotta lock in and do it. 0:01:23.880 --> 0:01:25.160 I ain't about to just like go up there and 0:01:25.160 --> 0:01:27.240 look crazy. That's that's usually by telling myself, I don't 0:01:27.280 --> 0:01:28.640 want to go anywhere and look crazy. So I just 0:01:28.640 --> 0:01:31.679 got to go to the hardest I could go. And the 0:01:31.720 --> 0:01:34.280 titles pray for me, Yeah, what happened? Which sins did 0:01:34.280 --> 0:01:34.679 you commit? 0:01:35.280 --> 0:01:35.480 Nah? 0:01:35.600 --> 0:01:39.320 No, sense I ain't. Did We all committed from me 0:01:39.400 --> 0:01:41.120 one hundred percent? But it got nothing to do. 0:01:41.160 --> 0:01:43.480 And in regards to that, honestly, the title comes from uh, 0:01:43.520 --> 0:01:45.000 back when I was in college with my grandma. She 0:01:45.080 --> 0:01:46.600 used to send me scriptures like every day, and she 0:01:46.640 --> 0:01:48.760 used to pray for me. She ended up passing back 0:01:48.800 --> 0:01:51.880 in like twenty twenty two, and yeah, absolutely appreciate that, 0:01:52.160 --> 0:01:54.040 and uh, you know that definitely rocked me. But I 0:01:54.080 --> 0:01:55.720 feel like when I went and did that cost in 0:01:55.760 --> 0:01:57.320 not mafia Tha, that was the first time in a 0:01:57.400 --> 0:01:58.840 very long time I started to see, like so many 0:01:58.880 --> 0:02:00.560 people all over the world I ain't we spoke to 0:02:00.640 --> 0:02:02.800 just hit me like, brou I'm praying for your success, 0:02:02.800 --> 0:02:04.480 like I hope you win, I hope you get this. 0:02:04.520 --> 0:02:06.640 And that just felt like a very humbling moment. Kind 0:02:06.640 --> 0:02:08.560 of reminded me a lot of like, you know, my grandma. 0:02:08.760 --> 0:02:10.720 So that's where I kind of like dedicated that probably name. 0:02:10.600 --> 0:02:13.840 To that first song is talking directly about her prayers. 0:02:14.400 --> 0:02:17.519 So the song Sary's Prayer, that's actually my man's from Chicago. 0:02:17.560 --> 0:02:19.120 He actually prayed for me at the crib when I 0:02:19.160 --> 0:02:20.680 lived in La. Well I still live in a La 0:02:20.840 --> 0:02:22.320 but I was living at this one spot and he 0:02:22.320 --> 0:02:23.760 prayed pray for me before. 0:02:23.600 --> 0:02:24.240 I left the crib. 0:02:24.360 --> 0:02:26.840 Okay, Yeah, and then you mentioned the kay Sat moment 0:02:27.000 --> 0:02:29.600 in that song as well, where you were like, were. 0:02:29.480 --> 0:02:30.959 A little nervous. It was a lot of pressure, like 0:02:31.000 --> 0:02:32.560 you didn't even want to go do it at one point. 0:02:32.639 --> 0:02:33.080 Yeah, I was. 0:02:33.080 --> 0:02:34.600 I was definitely nervous because I was in a space 0:02:34.600 --> 0:02:36.960 where I just I didn't know what was next to me. 0:02:37.080 --> 0:02:39.160 I feel like I was just sitting in a waiting space, 0:02:39.280 --> 0:02:40.880 not really knowing what was going to be next. And 0:02:40.919 --> 0:02:42.720 when my man's gave call me, I was just like, hey, bro, 0:02:42.760 --> 0:02:44.320 I'm gonnahow itp for you. To the best of my ability. 0:02:44.320 --> 0:02:45.560 That's my man. So I said, look, I'm gonna go 0:02:45.560 --> 0:02:47.440 in here get kill this for you. Yeah, it's Luthor 0:02:47.440 --> 0:02:50.600 gave forre. What was going on though, Like, what was 0:02:50.639 --> 0:02:51.240 going through your mind? 0:02:51.400 --> 0:02:53.280 Whenever I hear your music, I do hear this passion, 0:02:53.320 --> 0:02:55.760 I do hear you expressing your feelings. What was going 0:02:55.760 --> 0:02:59.000 on in that particular day though, like leading up to 0:02:59.320 --> 0:03:04.240 Mike Mafia, because that was pure emotion, you know. 0:03:04.360 --> 0:03:07.679 I feel like I just I've been making music for 0:03:07.720 --> 0:03:09.680 a long time and I kind of was in this 0:03:09.720 --> 0:03:11.320 in between space and not knowing whether I was gonna 0:03:11.320 --> 0:03:13.280 continue or not. End up picking a little part time job, 0:03:13.280 --> 0:03:15.880 and shit, I'm just getting like into the groove of that, 0:03:17.040 --> 0:03:18.400 still working on music and stuff like that. 0:03:18.440 --> 0:03:20.240 But I just more so was thinking to myself, like. 0:03:20.400 --> 0:03:23.840 If this was the plan all along, God telling me 0:03:23.880 --> 0:03:25.200 I gotta just do this, I'm gonna do that. 0:03:25.240 --> 0:03:27.040 I'm not gonna, like not trust the timing. 0:03:27.400 --> 0:03:29.880 So I kind of went into that whole mafia down 0:03:29.919 --> 0:03:31.800 with the idea that if this is my last attempt 0:03:31.800 --> 0:03:34.000 to show the world like I'm here, I'm gonna just 0:03:34.000 --> 0:03:34.320 do that. 0:03:34.600 --> 0:03:35.680 So it really didn't mean a lot to me to 0:03:35.680 --> 0:03:36.840 go up there and get crazy like that. 0:03:37.000 --> 0:03:39.240 They're expressing your feelings through music coming to you naturally 0:03:39.360 --> 0:03:42.080 or was that like a learned behavior naturally naturally. 0:03:42.560 --> 0:03:43.640 I was never good at therapy. 0:03:43.960 --> 0:03:45.520 I just felt like it was way easy to write 0:03:45.600 --> 0:03:48.040 and make music about stuff like that, and I never 0:03:48.080 --> 0:03:49.640 really did it for anybody else but myself. But as 0:03:49.640 --> 0:03:51.600 I see more people resonate with it, I realize how 0:03:51.600 --> 0:03:54.320 important my story is to just people I don't even know. 0:03:54.360 --> 0:03:54.480 Now. 0:03:54.480 --> 0:03:56.360 I'm a big proponent of therapy, so I wanted, like, 0:03:56.360 --> 0:03:58.320 why didn't therapy resonate with you? 0:03:58.320 --> 0:04:00.560 I feel like I'm too self aware sometimes gotta be 0:04:00.600 --> 0:04:03.040 in there talking and I'm like, yeah, this is something 0:04:03.080 --> 0:04:04.920 I already realize my myself. 0:04:04.960 --> 0:04:05.800 I need to go work on it. 0:04:05.880 --> 0:04:07.520 But I feel like if I'm gonna be real with you, 0:04:07.680 --> 0:04:10.280 if I'm diving a little bit deeper, I think there 0:04:10.480 --> 0:04:14.360 is sometimes a barrier for me to actually speak about 0:04:14.360 --> 0:04:16.120 my issues. It's way easy to write about them and 0:04:16.160 --> 0:04:18.280 make them making this song versus actually just sitting there 0:04:18.279 --> 0:04:19.880 with a person one on one talking about. 0:04:19.720 --> 0:04:21.080 Everything, piece pot piece. 0:04:21.200 --> 0:04:23.040 I think that's the beauty of therapy, right because you 0:04:23.960 --> 0:04:27.480 I always say, like, for whatever questions you have, the 0:04:27.560 --> 0:04:28.279 answers are there. 0:04:28.480 --> 0:04:30.440 Yeah, is the sometimes we don't want to hear the 0:04:30.480 --> 0:04:31.359 actual answer. 0:04:31.400 --> 0:04:33.720 And I think sometimes you sit in there settled and 0:04:33.760 --> 0:04:35.040 you just talking and you like. 0:04:35.920 --> 0:04:37.960 Damn what I know what? You know what I mean, 0:04:38.000 --> 0:04:40.039 but you don't for whatever either, it don't. It just 0:04:40.040 --> 0:04:41.440 works in that setting. I don't know why. 0:04:41.560 --> 0:04:43.200 Yeah, I'm not gonna say it just works in that setting, 0:04:43.200 --> 0:04:44.240 but it comes out in that setting. 0:04:44.279 --> 0:04:45.120 Yeah. No, it's definitely. 0:04:45.120 --> 0:04:47.800 And I actually have considered like probably trying to start 0:04:47.839 --> 0:04:49.520 up again like next year, Like I really want to 0:04:49.520 --> 0:04:51.160 try to challenge myself. That's what's something I'm too big 0:04:51.240 --> 0:04:52.880 on just trying to challenge myself to be better every day. 0:04:53.040 --> 0:04:54.880 What would you do differently than when you go back 0:04:54.920 --> 0:04:57.880 to therapy where you're like, because you're always gonna feel 0:04:57.880 --> 0:04:58.599 like you're self aware? 0:04:58.800 --> 0:05:02.040 For sure. I think I just got better at listening, 0:05:02.440 --> 0:05:02.920 you know what I'm saying. 0:05:02.960 --> 0:05:05.640 I think sometimes I like to talking, needed to hear 0:05:05.800 --> 0:05:07.400 feel like I'm good with X, Y and Z, But 0:05:07.440 --> 0:05:09.200 I feel like for a very long time I struggled 0:05:09.240 --> 0:05:11.440 with like listening. So I feel like when I go 0:05:11.480 --> 0:05:13.400 back this time around, obvious, I'm gonna talk about what 0:05:13.400 --> 0:05:14.919 I got going on, but I'm more so receptive to 0:05:14.960 --> 0:05:17.160 what whoever is talking to me got to say. 0:05:17.320 --> 0:05:19.360 Is that a career thing? Like in your career as 0:05:19.360 --> 0:05:21.720 you're growing, have you had to learn? Okay, if I 0:05:21.920 --> 0:05:24.760 listened whatever, Like how did you arrive at that? I'm 0:05:24.760 --> 0:05:25.599 a just listen point. 0:05:26.360 --> 0:05:29.400 It really started with my dad for real, in the 0:05:29.520 --> 0:05:31.880 process of like me getting a part time job leading 0:05:31.960 --> 0:05:33.480 up to the Mafia Tha thing. I'm talking to him 0:05:33.480 --> 0:05:36.440 every day and we just really speaking on the whole 0:05:36.520 --> 0:05:38.080 career up to this point, and he was just kind 0:05:38.040 --> 0:05:40.120 oftilling in me like, obviously you don't know what the 0:05:40.160 --> 0:05:41.839 future is, but you got to be patient, and I 0:05:41.839 --> 0:05:43.919 feel like what patients comes listening because a lot of 0:05:43.920 --> 0:05:45.680 times when you in the waiting period, you really got 0:05:45.680 --> 0:05:47.320 to just listen to everything, Listen to the world, listen 0:05:47.360 --> 0:05:49.080 to what God talking about, listening to everything around you, 0:05:49.120 --> 0:05:50.640 Like you got to just be receptive to all of that. 0:05:50.880 --> 0:05:54.080 So I feel like by developing a you know, a better, 0:05:54.760 --> 0:05:56.160 better means of being patient, I was able to listen 0:05:56.240 --> 0:05:58.000 better for real, and I definitely think it helping my career. 0:05:58.760 --> 0:06:01.279 How do you cause I keep mentioning, keep hearing you 0:06:01.320 --> 0:06:03.360 mentioned the part time job, right, but then you're headed 0:06:03.400 --> 0:06:06.440 to mafia thigh like the craziness of that. 0:06:07.200 --> 0:06:07.960 I respect it. 0:06:08.080 --> 0:06:08.560 I do too. 0:06:08.680 --> 0:06:09.480 I mean I've been there. 0:06:09.640 --> 0:06:11.240 Yeah, you know what I'm saying. I gotta change your 0:06:11.279 --> 0:06:12.920 dreams and deal with your reality. Yeah. 0:06:12.960 --> 0:06:15.039 My question was going to be, how do you keep 0:06:15.080 --> 0:06:17.800 your faith or talk about what you went through with 0:06:17.839 --> 0:06:20.640 your faith while dealing with your real life but still 0:06:20.720 --> 0:06:23.320 chasing your dream because that is everybody can't get through that. 0:06:23.320 --> 0:06:25.800 That's like the major key if you can figure that out. 0:06:26.120 --> 0:06:29.120 Yeah, I don't know. I'm gonna be honest, I really 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:31.240 don't have a real answer. I just feel like there 0:06:31.279 --> 0:06:33.400 was something in me, especially when that call came because 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:35.080 at the time, right I'm already in the job for 0:06:35.120 --> 0:06:37.239 about two months, I'm getting my feet wet. I'm cooling, 0:06:37.279 --> 0:06:39.000 like I'm having a good time at the job, you 0:06:39.000 --> 0:06:42.200 know what I'm saying. When Gabe called me something, me 0:06:42.360 --> 0:06:46.040 was just like, bro, just just do this. Do this 0:06:46.040 --> 0:06:47.880 all the way I'm talking about I'm going to the job. 0:06:48.680 --> 0:06:51.960 I'm rehearsing writing on my free time. I had a 0:06:51.960 --> 0:06:54.240 two hour drive like down and back, so like I'm 0:06:54.640 --> 0:06:56.760 thinking of stuff if as I'm driving back, I'm rehearsing, 0:06:56.800 --> 0:06:59.000 reciting every single day. I just told myself, like, if 0:06:59.000 --> 0:07:00.640 this is my last chance, I'm gonna do this. I 0:07:00.720 --> 0:07:02.479 just got to do it the best to my ability. 0:07:02.520 --> 0:07:04.919 I didn't expect none of this stuff to happen after, 0:07:05.440 --> 0:07:07.360 but I was just like, hey, I know, I'm really 0:07:07.360 --> 0:07:10.240 good when it comes to just performing in these freestyles. 0:07:10.560 --> 0:07:11.840 The best I could do is just go out there 0:07:11.880 --> 0:07:13.240 and put on the best show, because I can't be 0:07:13.280 --> 0:07:15.000 mad at that if I do my best and nothing 0:07:15.040 --> 0:07:16.720 comes from it, I can't be mad because at least 0:07:16.720 --> 0:07:17.360 I killed it. 0:07:17.440 --> 0:07:17.960 So school me. 0:07:18.120 --> 0:07:21.960 When you signed the Depth Jam before Madia line, Uh yeah, Okay, okay, okay, 0:07:22.000 --> 0:07:23.960 because I just saw you was signing dev Jam. I 0:07:24.000 --> 0:07:26.760 don't even know you was Dev Jam's golden child. I 0:07:26.800 --> 0:07:30.040 thought it might Okay, Yeah, why why you feel like that? 0:07:30.600 --> 0:07:31.320 Well with Jam? 0:07:31.400 --> 0:07:33.480 Yeah, you know, def Jam has been a cultural hub, 0:07:33.480 --> 0:07:34.960 but just hip hop in general, Like I grew up 0:07:35.000 --> 0:07:37.760 on that, and I feel like what I bring to 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:39.080 the table when it comes to Death Jam. 0:07:39.040 --> 0:07:39.720 Is that new life. 0:07:39.760 --> 0:07:42.240 Like it just feel like reinvigoration just for hip hop. 0:07:42.280 --> 0:07:45.239 You know, turning my dog, he's basically like family, and 0:07:45.280 --> 0:07:47.440 for him to even just want to do this with 0:07:47.520 --> 0:07:48.960 me means the world, you know what I'm saying. 0:07:49.000 --> 0:07:51.200 Like again, I grew up on this. My uncle literally 0:07:51.240 --> 0:07:52.840 put me on him your every. 0:07:52.640 --> 0:07:53.960 Dev Jam artist, So to be a part of a 0:07:54.040 --> 0:07:56.080 label like that now it just feels like a full 0:07:56.120 --> 0:07:57.440 circle moment, all. 0:07:57.360 --> 0:07:59.760 Of us and you from Jersey, Yeah, East the Orange, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:00.600 to be exact. 0:08:00.640 --> 0:08:02.800 I don't know why Jersey don't come up in more 0:08:02.880 --> 0:08:06.320 hip hop conversations, but honestly, how did East Darns, New 0:08:06.400 --> 0:08:08.400 Jersey shape the way you rap and think and. 0:08:08.400 --> 0:08:10.000 Just move through the world? Alight? 0:08:10.040 --> 0:08:12.520 So again, like my uncle, he put me onto a 0:08:12.520 --> 0:08:14.640 lot of rap, but my dad and my mom. They 0:08:14.680 --> 0:08:16.040 was big on like R and B, so a lot 0:08:16.080 --> 0:08:18.160 of Mary J. Blige was getting played in the crib. 0:08:18.280 --> 0:08:22.760 That was like every damn day love Mary, let me 0:08:22.760 --> 0:08:27.360 see earth Wind the Fire. Huge heavy h influence in 0:08:27.440 --> 0:08:29.280 terms of just like the musicality and stuff like that. 0:08:29.480 --> 0:08:31.480 But I feel like Jersey has always been a melting pot. 0:08:31.480 --> 0:08:34.120 There's never been like a specific sound that comes out 0:08:34.120 --> 0:08:35.640 of the place. It's just like a melting pot of 0:08:35.720 --> 0:08:38.760 so many different things. And the beauty of that is 0:08:38.800 --> 0:08:41.120 that it allows I feel like, for me, there's a 0:08:41.120 --> 0:08:42.480 lot of versutility that lives in my music. But it 0:08:42.520 --> 0:08:44.800 also allows us, over the next decade, or at least 0:08:44.840 --> 0:08:46.760 the second half of this decade, to start finding that 0:08:46.800 --> 0:08:48.520 identity because I feel like there are so many amazing 0:08:48.559 --> 0:08:50.000 people that's coming up right now, Like you got the 0:08:50.000 --> 0:08:52.839 plat boy Max's you know, I'll be out back out 0:08:52.880 --> 0:08:53.959 you know to surf on. 0:08:53.920 --> 0:08:56.360 That Waersey Yeah, West Orange, Yeah. 0:08:57.160 --> 0:08:58.840 Yeah, He's amazing. Crazy. 0:08:58.880 --> 0:09:01.400 It's crazy because you never think the screams from the internet, 0:09:01.400 --> 0:09:02.360 you know, you. 0:09:04.080 --> 0:09:06.199 Know what I'm saying, sciss you feel me a lot 0:09:06.240 --> 0:09:07.920 of themes out there, Kyrie Irving, Like there's a lot 0:09:07.920 --> 0:09:09.480 of people from Jersey, and I just hope that within 0:09:09.480 --> 0:09:11.160 this second half of the decade we can start seeing 0:09:11.160 --> 0:09:12.920 like a lot more these people get together in unite 0:09:12.960 --> 0:09:14.920 because for a very long time we've really never had 0:09:14.920 --> 0:09:16.800 a strong identity in terms of that space. 0:09:17.320 --> 0:09:19.120 The last rapper that came from Jersey that I can 0:09:19.160 --> 0:09:21.200 remember is yeah. 0:09:21.360 --> 0:09:22.880 And I'm sure there's been other people, but I feel 0:09:22.880 --> 0:09:24.719 like we go under the radar so damn much. Even 0:09:24.720 --> 0:09:26.880 getting on Mafia thought and like screaming from the rooftop 0:09:26.960 --> 0:09:28.960 like Jersey Like that should mean a lot to me 0:09:29.280 --> 0:09:29.760 because like. 0:09:30.320 --> 0:09:32.439 I mean, Jersey had icons. You got you know, Naughty 0:09:32.440 --> 0:09:39.280 by Nature for you know, musical red Man, like yeah, 0:09:39.640 --> 0:09:40.959 legends legends in Jersey. 0:09:41.040 --> 0:09:42.800 Absolutely, people don't about Jersey either. 0:09:43.240 --> 0:09:45.560 Gives you a whole rundown what you need to go 0:09:45.600 --> 0:09:49.240 do talking about the guy what you said, we were 0:09:49.240 --> 0:09:50.360 talking about you and te. 0:09:50.480 --> 0:09:54.600 No no no no no no no. 0:09:54.640 --> 0:09:56.520 I me and my moms. But absolutely I love that 0:09:56.600 --> 0:09:57.720 you do that than any of them. 0:09:57.800 --> 0:09:58.600 Is fire you growing up? 0:09:59.600 --> 0:10:01.120 Honestly, I would. 0:10:00.880 --> 0:10:03.560 Feel like it really happened a little bit more towards 0:10:03.559 --> 0:10:05.200 the high school because when I was growing up, I 0:10:05.240 --> 0:10:06.760 was kind of just like a sports guy. I didn't 0:10:06.760 --> 0:10:09.120 really get into music crazy until like middle school, high school, 0:10:09.120 --> 0:10:11.199 and that's when I started getting onto everything. I wouldn't 0:10:11.200 --> 0:10:13.679 say anything specifically, but as I get older now I'm 0:10:13.720 --> 0:10:15.440 always trying to draw from anything. 0:10:15.440 --> 0:10:19.120 I'm listening to Jersey just to pay homage for when you. 0:10:19.040 --> 0:10:21.320 Did the stream, there was a lot of people that 0:10:21.360 --> 0:10:23.920 like came out and like co signed you right after that. 0:10:24.040 --> 0:10:27.440 It was like crazy viral. Yeah, what was most surprising 0:10:27.480 --> 0:10:28.559 for you? I saw NAS? 0:10:28.760 --> 0:10:31.200 Yeah, NAS was nuts. Shoutout dread the Rose for that. 0:10:32.000 --> 0:10:34.360 Russell Wilson, Russell Wilson was crazy. I woke up to 0:10:34.480 --> 0:10:36.440 six in the morning and seeing Russell Wilson talking about 0:10:36.440 --> 0:10:37.200 some a brit It's hard. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:41.080 You're a sports guy. I can tell you brush past 0:10:41.160 --> 0:10:41.600 knobs bro. 0:10:41.720 --> 0:10:44.160 Russell Wilson like, like I was crazy. 0:10:44.200 --> 0:10:45.680 Like a lot of people see the NAS thinking like 0:10:45.720 --> 0:10:48.040 I'm not gonna try to play like NAS is like legend, 0:10:48.040 --> 0:10:50.520 that's one of my heroes. But like rus Wilson, that's 0:10:50.600 --> 0:10:52.120 kind of nuts too, you know what I'm saying. Obviously 0:10:52.160 --> 0:10:53.880 there are two different realms in terms of like what 0:10:53.960 --> 0:10:55.640 you was really basing on. But like the NAS and 0:10:55.720 --> 0:10:58.520 Russell Wilson Wills was definitely the craziest ever can you. 0:10:58.520 --> 0:11:01.240 Talk about like just from so you do. 0:11:01.280 --> 0:11:03.720 The stream is viral and people connected with it because 0:11:03.720 --> 0:11:06.600 it was so emotional about your Grandmadat. Right after that, 0:11:06.760 --> 0:11:08.720 like what opportunities open up for you? 0:11:08.720 --> 0:11:09.760 I know you got the tour with. 0:11:09.760 --> 0:11:14.640 Jid Yeah, wow, wow, that question always be like so 0:11:14.679 --> 0:11:16.640 many things have happened in the period of time since then, 0:11:16.679 --> 0:11:18.480 it's like kind of hard to always remember. 0:11:18.480 --> 0:11:20.800 But the Jed tour was definitely one of the biggest ones. 0:11:21.160 --> 0:11:24.080 Super appreciative to obviously Jid burying Zeep to my dogs, 0:11:24.679 --> 0:11:26.800 taking me through the Midwest. I never been I never 0:11:26.800 --> 0:11:28.720 actually tore through the states like that before, so that 0:11:28.840 --> 0:11:30.280 was really like super super cool. 0:11:30.320 --> 0:11:32.600 I met a lot of amazing people. I got so 0:11:32.600 --> 0:11:33.480 many producer packs. 0:11:33.600 --> 0:11:35.199 Wait, so the Jig tour happened. 0:11:35.240 --> 0:11:37.000 I thought that you already had that in the works, 0:11:37.040 --> 0:11:39.880 and then he shouted you out and then after announced 0:11:39.880 --> 0:11:42.000 it hit you because. 0:11:41.720 --> 0:11:42.240 Of the YO. 0:11:42.559 --> 0:11:45.360 I got the call eight days before. I'm not even joking, 0:11:45.360 --> 0:11:47.280 and I've just suited up and just did what it did. 0:11:47.360 --> 0:11:49.240 I told my job, I said, look, I ain't gonna 0:11:49.240 --> 0:11:50.800 lot of y'all this as crazy as hell, but like 0:11:50.920 --> 0:11:51.480 I gotta. 0:11:51.240 --> 0:11:52.600 Go, and it was like, yeah, for sure, I still 0:11:52.600 --> 0:11:53.000 have my job. 0:11:53.000 --> 0:11:55.079 When I was on tour and I was coming back 0:11:55.080 --> 0:11:57.400 and I was actually gonna go back to that the job, 0:11:57.480 --> 0:11:59.440 but then other craziness happened, I just told him like, hey, 0:11:59.480 --> 0:12:01.600 I don't think it's fair to y'all that I do this, 0:12:01.640 --> 0:12:02.679 so I'm just take a step back. 0:12:03.000 --> 0:12:03.640 What kind of job. 0:12:04.280 --> 0:12:07.480 It was a music installation company. Yeah, like we used 0:12:07.520 --> 0:12:09.439 to go in and stall like radio systems. Now we 0:12:09.679 --> 0:12:12.200 used to install sound systems like churches and stuff like that. Yeah, 0:12:12.240 --> 0:12:13.480 So I was out of la doing that. 0:12:13.800 --> 0:12:14.079 Dope. 0:12:14.160 --> 0:12:14.880 Yeah, it was fine. 0:12:15.880 --> 0:12:17.800 Is that a trade you gotta learn or nah? 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:19.720 I feel like just over the time of everything I've 0:12:19.720 --> 0:12:22.080 been doing in this, I just was learning everything. 0:12:22.160 --> 0:12:24.720 Like everywhere I go, I try to learn as much 0:12:24.720 --> 0:12:25.000 as I can. 0:12:25.040 --> 0:12:26.559 We tore with Russ like back in twenty twenty four, 0:12:26.679 --> 0:12:28.400 so like I was with his team a lot. I'm 0:12:28.400 --> 0:12:30.360 just learning everything as I'm going. So from now I'm 0:12:30.360 --> 0:12:32.280 picking up tips and I actually use that in my interview. 0:12:32.400 --> 0:12:33.640 Not even a lot of what got me the job 0:12:33.679 --> 0:12:35.439 for being an artist and having had a lot of 0:12:35.640 --> 0:12:37.120 this experience on the road and stuff like that. 0:12:37.440 --> 0:12:39.880 What personal battles do you think your listeners here the 0:12:39.960 --> 0:12:41.679 most clearly in your music? 0:12:42.120 --> 0:12:46.480 Uh? I feel like for me, it's just confidence, you 0:12:46.520 --> 0:12:48.360 know what I'm saying. I feel like it's like all 0:12:48.360 --> 0:12:49.400 of us, you know what I'm saying. We wake up 0:12:49.400 --> 0:12:52.120 every day trying to just be the best version of ourselves, 0:12:52.160 --> 0:12:53.600 and it's very hard to do that sometimes when there's 0:12:53.600 --> 0:12:55.680 so much noise, Like I could imagine what y'all go through, 0:12:55.800 --> 0:13:00.240 assholests being on this everything's literally under a space like assholes. 0:13:00.400 --> 0:13:01.439 No no, no, no, no, no no no. 0:13:03.920 --> 0:13:06.840 Whut you ass hosts? 0:13:09.760 --> 0:13:12.400 Of course yep, but you know, ass hosts. 0:13:12.040 --> 0:13:14.280 Like y'all are under a spotlight. I can only imagine 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.560 scrutiny that y'all go through, And I feel like y'all 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:18.480 got it harder than the regular average person, but the 0:13:18.520 --> 0:13:20.280 average person still goes through that too. So I feel 0:13:20.280 --> 0:13:21.920 like every day is a challenge of like putting your 0:13:21.920 --> 0:13:24.440 pants on and telling yourself that nigga, like I gotta 0:13:24.440 --> 0:13:25.920 get up and do this for me, it's not about 0:13:25.920 --> 0:13:27.800 proving it to the world, but more so affirming in 0:13:27.840 --> 0:13:29.320 yourself that you are the person you think. 0:13:29.160 --> 0:13:31.800 You of, especially nowadays when you we live in an 0:13:31.800 --> 0:13:35.160 era where every single day of your life you can 0:13:35.200 --> 0:13:37.000 go on your phone and it's somebody trying to tell 0:13:37.000 --> 0:13:38.679 you that you ain't shit. Hell yeah, I don't even 0:13:38.760 --> 0:13:41.040 know you, bro, there's no there's no picture on your thing. 0:13:41.240 --> 0:13:42.880 I can't even say your name on this Twitter or 0:13:42.880 --> 0:13:45.400 this Instagram app. And you're telling me we've never met before, 0:13:45.600 --> 0:13:47.800 that that what I'm doing and ship and it's like, Bro, 0:13:47.840 --> 0:13:49.760 I didn't ask for that, and a lot of it too. 0:13:49.760 --> 0:13:51.600 I always think about this is like if people were 0:13:51.920 --> 0:13:53.960 if people had the opportunity to do what you were doing, 0:13:54.040 --> 0:13:56.480 they probably couldn't. They couldn't push it to the finish 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:57.720 line the way that you do every day. 0:13:57.760 --> 0:13:57.920 Bro. 0:13:58.240 --> 0:13:59.840 There's like probably one percent of people if they put 0:13:59.880 --> 0:14:02.040 your right now, they would literally forward at the starting line. 0:14:02.120 --> 0:14:04.200 Yeah, every single time. Like it's cool. 0:14:04.280 --> 0:14:05.680 That's what I like most about your project. 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:05.880 Though. 0:14:05.880 --> 0:14:07.560 It felt like I was on a journey with you. 0:14:07.600 --> 0:14:09.640 That would feels very familiar to you know, just where 0:14:09.640 --> 0:14:11.880 I am in life right now. Of like you're talking 0:14:11.920 --> 0:14:14.840 yourself through like a very vulnerable moment of like I 0:14:14.880 --> 0:14:18.440 feel pressure, of like you're building. It's built, it's there, 0:14:18.480 --> 0:14:20.960 people see it. But the pressures in the you get 0:14:20.960 --> 0:14:22.320 to these levels where you're dealing with things that you 0:14:22.320 --> 0:14:24.360 didn't even know you're gonna deal with, and then it's 0:14:24.360 --> 0:14:25.720 like your new kid at school all over again. You 0:14:25.800 --> 0:14:28.960 gotta talk yourself through it all over again, and it's 0:14:29.560 --> 0:14:30.560 it felt very familiar. 0:14:30.600 --> 0:14:32.800 You sum that up amazingly literally first day at school. 0:14:32.880 --> 0:14:34.680 Yeah, but it's like you do the first day at 0:14:34.680 --> 0:14:36.200 school so many times and you're like. 0:14:36.240 --> 0:14:38.240 No, I just was here, Like but that's the beauty 0:14:38.240 --> 0:14:38.480 of life. 0:14:38.520 --> 0:14:40.520 I feel like if we are going through a year 0:14:40.520 --> 0:14:42.160 and we don't feel like the first day is something wrong, 0:14:42.440 --> 0:14:44.160 you should be feeling like we have to restart and 0:14:44.480 --> 0:14:46.760 move our way up that you know, that's tower genuinely. 0:14:46.880 --> 0:14:47.080 You know. 0:14:47.120 --> 0:14:49.640 Other artist reminds me that j Cole. I get not 0:14:49.640 --> 0:14:51.120 first day of school all the time from him, but 0:14:51.240 --> 0:14:53.960 like he does a lot of like reflective like wrap 0:14:54.080 --> 0:14:55.480 up it, like every. 0:14:55.280 --> 0:14:57.680 Time col pop out, always feel like a new version 0:14:57.680 --> 0:14:59.720 of cold, which I do I really appreciate a lot 0:14:59.720 --> 0:15:01.640 from because I feel like we don't see that much 0:15:01.680 --> 0:15:05.280 in especially like Black artists, Like it's already. I have 0:15:05.680 --> 0:15:07.200 this theory in my mind that we really don't see 0:15:07.200 --> 0:15:09.040 what happens to black people like after thirties. I feel 0:15:09.080 --> 0:15:11.240 like what's perpetuated as the twenties, but like what happens 0:15:11.280 --> 0:15:12.920 as you get older? What does it look like? What 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:14.600 does it look like raising a family? And I feel 0:15:14.600 --> 0:15:15.800 like when I listen to call a lot of times 0:15:15.840 --> 0:15:17.640 it's cool to see what that inside looks like, especially as. 0:15:17.600 --> 0:15:19.600 I get older as a black man, trying to figure 0:15:19.640 --> 0:15:20.400 it out too fee me. 0:15:20.600 --> 0:15:23.400 What you're speaking to is you know, and you're absolutely right. 0:15:23.840 --> 0:15:25.800 For a long time, hip hop had a glass ceiling, 0:15:25.920 --> 0:15:28.120 mean that you look up and you think you can 0:15:28.120 --> 0:15:30.160 go higher, but you eventually hit your head. And it's 0:15:30.200 --> 0:15:33.960 because a lot of people, artists, media personality, they were 0:15:33.960 --> 0:15:37.160 afraid to grow and evolve because they experienced a lot 0:15:37.160 --> 0:15:38.160 of success. 0:15:37.800 --> 0:15:38.560 Being one way. 0:15:38.960 --> 0:15:41.280 And then you know, the cultural cachet was in the 0:15:41.320 --> 0:15:43.600 street for a long time. People were really afraid to 0:15:43.640 --> 0:15:45.680 be themselves. So now you've got a whole generation that's 0:15:46.040 --> 0:15:49.240 got a lot more emotional intelligence. They're doing the work 0:15:49.280 --> 0:15:51.440 on themselves, so they going to therapy and stuff like that. 0:15:51.840 --> 0:15:55.560 They're loving on they wives and their girlfriends are being 0:15:55.560 --> 0:15:59.440 committed to one shoming and you know, having these beautiful families, 0:15:59.480 --> 0:16:01.760 like yeah, yeah, you're right. Like to me, I think 0:16:01.800 --> 0:16:04.400 that in the future, mister Morale and the Big Stuff 0:16:05.240 --> 0:16:07.320 and jay Z four four four are gonna go down. 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.200 It's two of the most important hip hop albums ever. 0:16:09.360 --> 0:16:11.000 Yeah, nah, I no, Like I feel like you really 0:16:11.040 --> 0:16:11.880 summed it up to there. 0:16:12.000 --> 0:16:14.440 It's like you see these Disney movies, it's always like 0:16:14.480 --> 0:16:16.440 Happily ever after, but like the what come after? You right, 0:16:16.560 --> 0:16:18.120 that missed them around at four four four? It really 0:16:18.160 --> 0:16:19.440 is the part that come after that happen. We have 0:16:19.480 --> 0:16:21.280 a part that's the after genuinely. 0:16:21.920 --> 0:16:24.960 You also talk about on the project Screaming at the Sky. 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:27.520 You mentioned you hate church, but you tune in on 0:16:27.520 --> 0:16:29.400 Sundays because you want to feel close to your grandmother. 0:16:29.480 --> 0:16:29.640 Yeah. 0:16:29.640 --> 0:16:34.200 Absolutely, what Why would church? What talk us through your. 0:16:34.840 --> 0:16:37.160 I feel like the journey for a very long time 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:40.800 and we see it now the way, like religion in 0:16:40.800 --> 0:16:44.720 itself is sometimes manipulated for the wrong reasons. I feel 0:16:44.720 --> 0:16:47.760 like everybody should have their own relationship, whatever that is. 0:16:47.760 --> 0:16:49.000 You know what I'm saying, Whatever it is you believe 0:16:49.000 --> 0:16:51.040 in your relationship is unique to you, and whatever that 0:16:51.120 --> 0:16:51.800 is is what it is. 0:16:52.040 --> 0:16:54.160 What I believe in what you believing, what she believing. 0:16:54.320 --> 0:16:55.760 It should never clash. It's e mortal. 0:16:55.760 --> 0:16:58.880 Be a conversation to just understand how we maneuver those relationships. 0:16:58.960 --> 0:17:00.000 But it's to each his own. 0:17:00.120 --> 0:17:02.320 And I feel like when I was growing up, especially 0:17:02.400 --> 0:17:05.080 as a you know, black kid, you going to some 0:17:05.119 --> 0:17:05.600 of these churches. 0:17:05.600 --> 0:17:07.359 I went to some church white churches with my mama. 0:17:07.440 --> 0:17:09.399 I'm like, look, it's cool, but I don't know. 0:17:09.520 --> 0:17:11.600 This really hit for me, and for a very long time, 0:17:11.640 --> 0:17:13.360 I kind of didn't really want to be a part 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:15.439 of it. But again, with everything that's been happening in 0:17:15.440 --> 0:17:17.040 my life, I've just been tapping in form of my own. 0:17:16.920 --> 0:17:18.240 Relationship and that's real though. 0:17:18.280 --> 0:17:21.200 I really did a tune in to like just fear 0:17:21.200 --> 0:17:22.680 that connection because the only person who was doing that 0:17:22.720 --> 0:17:24.560 at the time my life was my grandma. Funny enough, 0:17:24.880 --> 0:17:27.400 my job worked in churches at the same time too, 0:17:27.480 --> 0:17:29.680 So for like Smooth two and a half months, I'm 0:17:29.720 --> 0:17:32.480 just locked there, like going through it, and they were 0:17:32.840 --> 0:17:35.760 the company it was ran. It was Korean based, so 0:17:35.800 --> 0:17:37.960 I'm getting to see all this stuff from way different angles. 0:17:38.000 --> 0:17:39.440 Like I'm just opening to the world, just trying to 0:17:39.440 --> 0:17:42.119 see everything. But everybody's relationship is there, is your grandmother 0:17:42.240 --> 0:17:45.560 visit you? I do believe that. I feel like I'm 0:17:45.600 --> 0:17:47.840 not even joking too, Like even in that open line, 0:17:48.960 --> 0:17:50.879 I was like, I stopped smoking because I feel like, 0:17:50.920 --> 0:17:51.720 for a very long time. 0:17:51.760 --> 0:17:52.560 I used to have dreams. 0:17:53.040 --> 0:17:54.920 And I really appreciate you asking that first for some 0:17:55.000 --> 0:17:56.280 most because nobody ever asked me that before. 0:17:56.280 --> 0:17:57.520 But I used to have dreams for a while. 0:17:57.560 --> 0:17:59.240 I didn't have them dreams with my grandma on them, 0:17:59.640 --> 0:18:01.240 and I wouldn't say I had one recently. But I 0:18:01.280 --> 0:18:03.399 feel like that cost not Mafia moment just felt too divine, 0:18:03.440 --> 0:18:05.439 but it didn't feel real, like my mama is my 0:18:05.480 --> 0:18:07.520 mam Mama. So my mama called me and was like, YO, 0:18:08.680 --> 0:18:10.680 don't take this the wrong way. But I definitely feel 0:18:10.680 --> 0:18:13.280 like my mama heard that and that was all I needed. 0:18:13.480 --> 0:18:15.560 I feel like everything that's been happening, like even its 0:18:15.560 --> 0:18:17.560 mama we in right now, this don't even feel real, 0:18:17.680 --> 0:18:20.040 like happy to be here, obviously grateful that y'all haven't be. 0:18:20.080 --> 0:18:22.800 But again, I'm not like I'm too self aware, like 0:18:22.800 --> 0:18:24.760 this is this shit is like the bond time now. 0:18:25.320 --> 0:18:28.840 I asked because that my mother's mother, my big mama. 0:18:28.920 --> 0:18:30.000 She visited me twice. 0:18:30.200 --> 0:18:31.160 Wow in a dream. 0:18:31.400 --> 0:18:33.399 That's why I always ask that, Yeah, because it's one 0:18:33.440 --> 0:18:35.880 of those things. It's like, damn, I wish that would 0:18:35.880 --> 0:18:36.360 happen again. 0:18:36.440 --> 0:18:39.000 I feel like the last time I really really remember it, 0:18:39.040 --> 0:18:41.159 so my grandmama passed in twenty twenty two. It was 0:18:41.160 --> 0:18:42.960 when I was living in Nashville twenty twenty three. I 0:18:43.040 --> 0:18:44.919 just one night had a random dream and that was 0:18:44.960 --> 0:18:47.080 it and it never happened again. But the closer I 0:18:47.119 --> 0:18:48.679 got to that was like, mafia, do janmuinely? 0:18:49.040 --> 0:18:49.920 Or yeah? 0:18:50.520 --> 0:18:52.960 You know your your songs are like journal in trees? 0:18:53.760 --> 0:18:57.959 What's the line between vulnerability and over sharing for you? 0:18:58.000 --> 0:18:59.520 And how do you know what to keep to yourself? 0:19:00.119 --> 0:19:01.119 Uh? 0:19:01.640 --> 0:19:03.520 I'm big, I'm protecting my peace. I feel like I 0:19:03.560 --> 0:19:05.720 do a good job expressing myself. But like niggas don't 0:19:05.720 --> 0:19:08.080 know my mama name, you feel me like that's important 0:19:08.080 --> 0:19:10.320 to me, Like I want to keep certain things to me. 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:12.040 I feel like as I'm barking on this journey, I 0:19:12.080 --> 0:19:14.880 realize that it's not just me stepping in as a rapper, 0:19:14.920 --> 0:19:17.360 but like this the entertainment business and everything is entertainment. 0:19:17.359 --> 0:19:19.120 There are some things and some people that I would 0:19:19.200 --> 0:19:20.920 rather keep out of the light. I'm cool with living 0:19:20.920 --> 0:19:22.720 in that, but these people ain't ask for that either, 0:19:23.200 --> 0:19:25.320 and I got to be responsible and kindnizant of that 0:19:25.520 --> 0:19:27.320 as an artist, you know what I'm saying. Like, even 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.240 as me and my mama figuring out this voicemail that 0:19:29.280 --> 0:19:31.120 we're putting on there, I'm letting her know, like, Hey, 0:19:31.119 --> 0:19:32.480 I want you to hear this whole project before we 0:19:32.480 --> 0:19:34.240 put this out here, because this is not only my story, 0:19:34.240 --> 0:19:36.280 you part of this too, So like, if you're not 0:19:36.320 --> 0:19:38.320 cool with this, we're not doing it. But it's like, 0:19:38.359 --> 0:19:40.640 you know, it involves everybody again, everybody know I got 0:19:40.640 --> 0:19:41.280 on my every ride. 0:19:41.320 --> 0:19:41.760 No, I got dad. 0:19:41.760 --> 0:19:43.440 I don't know their names, but like that's the line 0:19:43.480 --> 0:19:44.800 I draw. I got a brother, don't be know my 0:19:44.880 --> 0:19:46.720 brother name. Like you know what I'm saying. I'm big 0:19:46.760 --> 0:19:48.359 on that. I talk about the homies lot because we 0:19:48.400 --> 0:19:51.359 all together, But like I try to keep that wall 0:19:52.400 --> 0:19:53.960 to the best of its ability because I don't want 0:19:53.960 --> 0:19:55.320 to ask to nobody life who can't ask for it. 0:19:55.880 --> 0:19:57.120 How is mom right now? 0:19:57.160 --> 0:19:58.879 And all of this like kind of dealing with like 0:19:58.920 --> 0:20:00.840 your life changing and watching it change. 0:20:00.880 --> 0:20:03.719 And she called me every day. She called me every day. 0:20:03.720 --> 0:20:04.920 I think that's the biggest thing for me. There was 0:20:04.920 --> 0:20:06.240 a period of how I me and her wasn't talking 0:20:06.240 --> 0:20:08.520 every day. And I don't know, like like bad blood 0:20:08.560 --> 0:20:09.800 or anything like that, but I just wasn't in the 0:20:09.840 --> 0:20:11.440 right space of mind. I'm moving around and all the shit, 0:20:11.440 --> 0:20:13.200 and I wasn't really thinking about that. But I feel 0:20:13.280 --> 0:20:16.879 like as this year is progressed, her, me, her and 0:20:16.960 --> 0:20:19.080 my dad just get super close. Like I'm calling him 0:20:19.119 --> 0:20:21.280 every single day to talk to them. It's fired because 0:20:21.280 --> 0:20:23.200 I haven't been back in like eighteen months, so I've 0:20:23.200 --> 0:20:25.399 been at the crib for like the last week, so 0:20:25.480 --> 0:20:27.240 that's been five and hanging out with them. But I 0:20:27.280 --> 0:20:29.399 talk to them like every day like that. Those are 0:20:29.400 --> 0:20:30.960 my dogs, Like I always trying to make sure they're good. 0:20:30.960 --> 0:20:32.879 They always looking out for me, even if it's just 0:20:32.920 --> 0:20:35.520 calling for five minutes of the day. They appreciate that, 0:20:35.560 --> 0:20:37.719 and I just try to make that a mission for 0:20:37.760 --> 0:20:39.040 anything that I'm doing moving forward. 0:20:39.280 --> 0:20:41.960 Even with my grandma, I don't think I did enough 0:20:42.000 --> 0:20:42.199 of that. 0:20:42.320 --> 0:20:44.639 So there's a super emphasis on that now to just 0:20:44.680 --> 0:20:46.879 be present in everybody's life as much as I can be. 0:20:46.720 --> 0:20:48.840 Because you never know, Yeah, you never know, take that. 0:20:48.800 --> 0:20:51.800 Shit for granted, Like my grandma. So I started my 0:20:51.840 --> 0:20:54.680 list because my grandma, she had a friend who did 0:20:54.680 --> 0:20:56.520 my hair in COVID because we know it was in 0:20:56.520 --> 0:20:58.120 the crib and stuff like that. And he kept telling 0:20:58.160 --> 0:20:59.800 me too during the year that she was that she passed, like, yo, 0:20:59.840 --> 0:21:01.720 go visical, visical visit. I'm like, oh yeah, I'm gonna 0:21:01.720 --> 0:21:04.320 go eventually, just never did. And eventually that you know 0:21:04.400 --> 0:21:06.560 that next time turns into it never again and you 0:21:06.560 --> 0:21:07.199 gotta live with that. 0:21:07.600 --> 0:21:09.240 So I just try to be as president as I 0:21:09.280 --> 0:21:11.399 can be with my parents more than ever. You know, 0:21:11.440 --> 0:21:15.880 a lot of artists struggle with comparing their journey to others, right, 0:21:16.000 --> 0:21:19.040 like how do you keep your confidence in creativity and 0:21:19.200 --> 0:21:22.840 tact and a culture that's constantly measuring you against everybody else. 0:21:23.600 --> 0:21:25.800 I just focus on Chris Patrick. I can't be I 0:21:25.840 --> 0:21:28.920 can't be anything else but Chris Patrick. Chris Patrick can't 0:21:28.920 --> 0:21:31.360 be called Chris Patrick, can't be anybody else that any 0:21:31.640 --> 0:21:34.080 like Kendrick can't be anything else but me. And I 0:21:34.119 --> 0:21:35.399 feel like, at the end of the day, as long 0:21:35.440 --> 0:21:37.159 as I'm working to be the best version of myself, 0:21:37.200 --> 0:21:39.880 I'm always going to be the best when I show up. Granted, 0:21:39.920 --> 0:21:42.720 there's always going to be a competitive nature to the sport, 0:21:42.760 --> 0:21:45.119 which I'm very much aware of, and I'm willing to 0:21:45.160 --> 0:21:47.000 compete in that. But at the same time, I'm not 0:21:47.720 --> 0:21:49.640 killing myself in my head over this. As long as 0:21:49.640 --> 0:21:52.719 I show up and I'm elevating myself, I'm gonna look 0:21:52.800 --> 0:21:55.080 up and eventually it's gonna be nobody around, just me. 0:21:55.359 --> 0:21:58.199 I text Gabe from on the Radar and told them 0:21:58.200 --> 0:21:59.920 that we were going to be interviewing you, and I was. 0:22:00.160 --> 0:22:02.120 I asked him, I said, the first time you put 0:22:02.200 --> 0:22:06.080 him on the radar, what made you like so many artists? 0:22:06.280 --> 0:22:08.520 And he says there was just a hunger in him 0:22:08.520 --> 0:22:10.399 that I don't see him any artists, a desire to 0:22:10.440 --> 0:22:12.280 make it and get it done by any means necessary. 0:22:12.320 --> 0:22:15.400 He's really the one you're getting some big knots. I'm 0:22:15.400 --> 0:22:17.200 really happy for you, Nah. 0:22:17.080 --> 0:22:17.359 Thank you. 0:22:17.560 --> 0:22:20.040 That means a lot. Like especially gay Man, really good guy. 0:22:20.119 --> 0:22:21.879 I'm appreciative that he even hit me. I tell him 0:22:21.920 --> 0:22:23.560 all the time, like, you have no idea how much 0:22:23.600 --> 0:22:25.520 this means to me. Even asking me to come and 0:22:25.520 --> 0:22:26.159 do this the second time. 0:22:26.160 --> 0:22:28.720 I don't think he understands what his platform is doing 0:22:28.720 --> 0:22:30.960 for people. Tell him that time, like, Yo, this platform 0:22:31.000 --> 0:22:33.480 is really changing people's lives, like off of art. 0:22:33.760 --> 0:22:35.240 Yeah, if you get on there and you do what 0:22:35.240 --> 0:22:37.360 you're supposed to do, who knows what comes right? 0:22:37.480 --> 0:22:39.200 Like, literally, i ain't know what's gonna happen. 0:22:39.720 --> 0:22:41.800 What's something you were once afraid of then no longer 0:22:41.800 --> 0:22:46.119 scared you put myself out there. I don't fear that anymore. 0:22:46.160 --> 0:22:47.720 I feel like the more I put myself out there, 0:22:47.800 --> 0:22:49.560 not even on, not even on like I'm doing it 0:22:49.600 --> 0:22:51.000 for the sake of anything. It's just I feel like 0:22:51.040 --> 0:22:52.840 the more honest I am about myself and everything I'm 0:22:52.880 --> 0:22:53.640 going through, it. 0:22:53.520 --> 0:22:55.120 Just seems like the more people keep coming in. I'm 0:22:55.160 --> 0:22:55.800 not even gonna lie. 0:22:55.840 --> 0:22:58.159 We was on this Jiitsuur doing that same man in 0:22:58.160 --> 0:23:00.320 the Garden versus as Wow, because I'm seeing people after 0:23:00.359 --> 0:23:03.240 the show. I'm talking about show get let out, after 0:23:03.280 --> 0:23:04.879 the gig show, you got a hundred two hundred, three 0:23:04.920 --> 0:23:06.840 hundred people waiting and to just talk to me about how 0:23:06.840 --> 0:23:08.639 that verse really resonated with him and hit And that's 0:23:08.680 --> 0:23:11.600 like it mean a lot because again, a couple. 0:23:11.480 --> 0:23:13.359 Months ago, I'm sitting at my job taping on the 0:23:13.359 --> 0:23:14.600 computer writing up X Y and Z. 0:23:14.720 --> 0:23:16.000 I wasn't thinking about this, but. 0:23:16.320 --> 0:23:19.240 A couple of weeks past, every night sound out merch 0:23:19.600 --> 0:23:21.119 like we had to reap so many times on the 0:23:21.160 --> 0:23:23.360 tour because they just kept buying shit, and I'm like, well, 0:23:23.440 --> 0:23:24.200 this is crazy. 0:23:24.240 --> 0:23:25.640 So I feel like. 0:23:25.680 --> 0:23:28.760 Just being myself, and you know, I think to become SUSCEPF, 0:23:28.800 --> 0:23:29.920 we gotta be willing to embarrass yourself. 0:23:30.000 --> 0:23:31.480 And sometimes it don't even be embarrassing. We just be 0:23:31.480 --> 0:23:34.159 in our heads a lot. People really be needing the shit. Like, 0:23:34.160 --> 0:23:36.440 you know what I'm saying, what's something you're still working through, 0:23:39.080 --> 0:23:40.719 trying to work life balance? 0:23:41.119 --> 0:23:45.320 I suck. I suck. It's not real. Yeah, you know. 0:23:45.400 --> 0:23:47.360 I told my mama. I said, I feel like I'm 0:23:47.359 --> 0:23:50.160 a really good rapper, but I gotta be a better son. 0:23:50.160 --> 0:23:51.560 I gotta be a better brother, I gotta be a 0:23:51.560 --> 0:23:54.760 better friend, gotta be a better cousin, better uncle. Like 0:23:54.800 --> 0:23:56.560 That's what I'm trying to be. And that's something I 0:23:56.600 --> 0:23:57.920 feel like. I really got to work at rapping. It 0:23:57.960 --> 0:23:59.560 come naturally to me. But everything else is what I 0:23:59.600 --> 0:24:00.960 gotta work. And I'm cool with that, you know what 0:24:00.960 --> 0:24:01.359 I'm saying. 0:24:01.440 --> 0:24:04.200 I would rather have it that way than just not 0:24:04.240 --> 0:24:05.919 knowing what I want to do. But it's it's an 0:24:05.960 --> 0:24:07.680 uphill battle, but I'm willing to work at it. That's 0:24:07.720 --> 0:24:09.800 so interesting, man, because you know me and my wife 0:24:09.800 --> 0:24:12.119 we always talk about how like, you know, there's no 0:24:12.240 --> 0:24:16.040 manual for parenting, right, Yeah, but you just made me 0:24:16.080 --> 0:24:18.639 think about something like as a rapper, there's like you 0:24:18.640 --> 0:24:21.040 can do a mafia thin freestyle and somebody be like, yo, 0:24:21.200 --> 0:24:21.840 you nice. 0:24:21.840 --> 0:24:24.320 You get the validation. Hey, you don't get that. Have 0:24:24.400 --> 0:24:26.840 a father, or a son or a husband, Like, ain't. 0:24:26.720 --> 0:24:29.960 Nobody you feel men Like your wife might tell you 0:24:30.000 --> 0:24:31.400 every now and then you a good husband, But. 0:24:33.160 --> 0:24:35.040 Yeah, you don't even know if you're doing a good job. 0:24:35.080 --> 0:24:37.479 You don't know what you're working through, what you're working through, 0:24:37.560 --> 0:24:39.320 or what you're working on is actually bringing you to 0:24:39.320 --> 0:24:39.679 where you go. 0:24:39.720 --> 0:24:41.040 You kind of just got to go with the flow. 0:24:41.080 --> 0:24:43.719 And that's just something I'm open to learning, just how 0:24:43.720 --> 0:24:45.120 to be a better person altogether. 0:24:45.400 --> 0:24:50.560 Like as your star girls, is that pressure of trying 0:24:50.560 --> 0:24:53.840 to figure out all that other stuff, being a better son, brother, 0:24:54.000 --> 0:24:55.840 all those things? Does that grow as well? 0:24:56.119 --> 0:24:56.399 Yeah? 0:24:56.520 --> 0:24:58.080 I think so, you know what I'm saying, I feel 0:24:58.119 --> 0:25:01.879 like I spent the first part of like starting his career, 0:25:02.119 --> 0:25:04.280 putting so much pressure on the work that I was doing, 0:25:04.320 --> 0:25:06.440 to the point where like I become some meticulous in 0:25:06.480 --> 0:25:09.040 detail the second nature. But I feel like now having 0:25:09.080 --> 0:25:10.920 to deal with this other side is so much more 0:25:10.920 --> 0:25:13.080 rewarding because I can see it in real time, me 0:25:13.200 --> 0:25:15.920 writing versus every single day for two years in a row. 0:25:16.760 --> 0:25:18.439 You don't know what that turns into until you have 0:25:18.480 --> 0:25:21.359 your moment. But picking up the phone from my mama 0:25:21.440 --> 0:25:23.680 every day for the next two years, that's beautiful. I'm 0:25:23.680 --> 0:25:24.800 not gonna get that back. That's time. 0:25:24.840 --> 0:25:26.320 I'm never gonna be able to that. There's no amount 0:25:26.320 --> 0:25:27.120 of money in the world. 0:25:26.920 --> 0:25:28.600 That can make that time up if I don't take 0:25:28.640 --> 0:25:30.920 this moment to call my parents, Like I don't get 0:25:30.920 --> 0:25:31.240 that back. 0:25:32.119 --> 0:25:33.720 What do you feel is missing for rap right now 0:25:33.720 --> 0:25:35.480 that you're intentionally trying to put back. 0:25:35.720 --> 0:25:38.040 Niggas need to care. There's too many people who are good, 0:25:38.080 --> 0:25:39.920 but they don't care enough. And I feel like that's 0:25:39.960 --> 0:25:43.960 my problem, Like I can't. I know I'm personally talented. 0:25:44.000 --> 0:25:46.560 I wouldn't even say that like I'm more talented than 0:25:46.600 --> 0:25:48.119 the next man. I just think I care more, and 0:25:48.160 --> 0:25:49.560 that's what I want to show people like, Yo, this 0:25:49.600 --> 0:25:51.359 shit can be done, like we working this pay for 0:25:51.440 --> 0:25:52.560 me projects, doing and a half weeks. 0:25:52.600 --> 0:25:53.000 That's care. 0:25:53.080 --> 0:25:54.240 I ain't never heard no shit like that. I ain't 0:25:54.240 --> 0:25:56.639 never seen people do nothing like that. Two and a 0:25:56.640 --> 0:25:58.600 half weeks, bro. For the moment Mafia thrown in it. Bro, 0:25:58.720 --> 0:26:01.200 I literally locked the next day playing call my phone 0:26:01.240 --> 0:26:01.520 to side. 0:26:02.200 --> 0:26:05.560 It's not it's not a long time, but you like 0:26:05.600 --> 0:26:08.399 what Yeah, Bro, I'm a crackhead about this shit, Like 0:26:08.440 --> 0:26:10.200 I really do this and I just want people to care. 0:26:10.240 --> 0:26:11.119 I want people to put. 0:26:10.960 --> 0:26:14.480 The intensity in there. I remember, Uh, somebody has seen 0:26:14.520 --> 0:26:16.080 one of my videos. They was like, Yo, you look 0:26:16.119 --> 0:26:17.600 really angry and that. I'm like, Bro, I just wanted 0:26:17.600 --> 0:26:19.320 to deliver the performance. I'm a really nice guy, y'all 0:26:19.320 --> 0:26:21.560 see me. I ain't coming here on no bullshit. 0:26:21.640 --> 0:26:22.960 I didn't know what you were gonna be like in 0:26:23.000 --> 0:26:26.080 person because they music it is very like intense, you know, 0:26:26.240 --> 0:26:27.520 but you like super jolly. 0:26:27.600 --> 0:26:29.560 I'll be flipping the switch like I'm very like chill, 0:26:29.760 --> 0:26:31.240 very laid back. But when it comes to that, when 0:26:31.240 --> 0:26:33.159 it comes to that ship, oh yeah, I'm a hooper. 0:26:33.480 --> 0:26:35.960 But yeah, I just want people to care. 0:26:36.000 --> 0:26:36.240 Again. 0:26:36.320 --> 0:26:38.600 Like, I think we need to see more artists caring, 0:26:38.680 --> 0:26:41.080 showing their journey, showing themselves going hard, because that's what 0:26:41.200 --> 0:26:43.119 made me a fan growing up with like all the 0:26:43.119 --> 0:26:45.560 people that we love. Now, when I see you know, 0:26:45.920 --> 0:26:47.880 Cole going to do that be free joint he did 0:26:47.920 --> 0:26:48.960 on that late night show. 0:26:48.800 --> 0:26:50.720 It's like, WHOA, that shit stuck with me forever. 0:26:51.040 --> 0:26:52.399 I ain't gonna lie. I really modeled a lot of 0:26:52.400 --> 0:26:54.040 my mafia throwing around that shit. It's like, bro, he 0:26:54.040 --> 0:26:56.080 went up there and made a moment that we wasn't expecting. 0:26:56.080 --> 0:26:57.760 Fucking I'm gonna do the same, you know what I'm saying. 0:26:57.760 --> 0:26:58.840 So I just want people to care again. 0:26:59.800 --> 0:27:00.239 Do you ever? 0:27:01.160 --> 0:27:03.560 I mean it's interesting because like people love you because 0:27:03.560 --> 0:27:05.919 you're honest. I love you because your emotion. Your emotion, 0:27:06.000 --> 0:27:08.879 you expressure relatability. Do you ever feel pressure to, like 0:27:09.480 --> 0:27:11.919 I guess, always show up as that strong, self aware 0:27:12.080 --> 0:27:14.480 version of yourself that people are going to expect because 0:27:14.760 --> 0:27:15.840 you're gonna have bad things. 0:27:15.920 --> 0:27:20.960 Yeah for sure. I mean it's they're my best friend. 0:27:21.080 --> 0:27:23.040 Money man is he already know he see it all? 0:27:23.119 --> 0:27:26.600 He know how I get. I feel like it's about 0:27:27.840 --> 0:27:29.560 having pockets, Like there'll be days where I do be 0:27:29.680 --> 0:27:32.360 down and like he'll see that, but maybe not everybody else. 0:27:32.640 --> 0:27:35.040 And that's cool, Like that's my man's for life. We 0:27:35.200 --> 0:27:36.800 just talk about things, we move from it, and we 0:27:36.920 --> 0:27:37.240 go through it. 0:27:37.280 --> 0:27:38.600 But I try not to show too much of that 0:27:38.640 --> 0:27:41.000 because I've started to realize that I also have a responsibility. 0:27:41.000 --> 0:27:42.480 There are people in the world who be like bra 0:27:42.600 --> 0:27:44.240 If I could show y'all some of the messages I've 0:27:44.240 --> 0:27:47.240 received after this, it'll make you cry, like it's really 0:27:47.280 --> 0:27:48.880 crazy how people looking at me. And I'm not gonna 0:27:48.880 --> 0:27:50.440 be I'm not gonna be foolish act like I don't 0:27:50.440 --> 0:27:52.920 got a responsibility. Granted, there's no pressure on me to 0:27:52.960 --> 0:27:54.840 feel like I got to be somebody savior, but I 0:27:54.920 --> 0:27:57.000 don't have any problem being the beacon. If somebody need 0:27:57.040 --> 0:27:58.399 that to get through their days, I'm cool with that. 0:27:58.640 --> 0:28:01.159 And and don't let people think that you perfect at 0:28:01.200 --> 0:28:03.800 all at all. You might see, that's what I'm saying. 0:28:03.800 --> 0:28:05.520 It might see you with some liquid, it might see you. 0:28:07.160 --> 0:28:09.480 Feel with the ladies, you know what I mean. Outside, 0:28:10.760 --> 0:28:12.160 But I feel like that's the beauty of life. 0:28:12.200 --> 0:28:14.119 Though for a very long time we've been watching everything 0:28:14.200 --> 0:28:16.320 through like a perfect picture but like you got to 0:28:16.320 --> 0:28:17.920 see how the artist got there, Like it takes so 0:28:18.080 --> 0:28:19.439 much for us to show up every day. 0:28:19.480 --> 0:28:20.640 I'm sure it took a lot for y'all to show 0:28:20.680 --> 0:28:20.920 up today. 0:28:20.920 --> 0:28:22.360 I don't know what you'all was going through, but it's 0:28:22.440 --> 0:28:25.240 like y'all, you know, showing up at y'all best sales. 0:28:25.240 --> 0:28:27.159 But people have to realize it's so much more than that. 0:28:27.400 --> 0:28:29.080 It's so much more than that. And I don't have 0:28:29.119 --> 0:28:30.679 a problem showing that, Like it's okay to be your 0:28:30.760 --> 0:28:31.480 health cool. 0:28:32.480 --> 0:28:35.879 What's the biggest misconception people have about Chris Patrick the 0:28:36.000 --> 0:28:38.040 person versus Chris Patrick the artist? 0:28:40.040 --> 0:28:41.680 By this misconception. 0:28:42.680 --> 0:28:45.120 That I'm like very chilling, like perfect as a person, 0:28:45.120 --> 0:28:47.320 I feel like as I meet more people, uh. 0:28:47.840 --> 0:28:49.479 They just have to realize, oh, he's just like us, 0:28:49.680 --> 0:28:52.520 like absolutely man, Like I grew up in easterns New Jersey. 0:28:53.000 --> 0:28:55.080 I was with the homies just like damn near everybody else. 0:28:55.320 --> 0:28:55.400 Uh. 0:28:56.120 --> 0:28:59.080 I feel like, if there's any misconception, I just want 0:28:59.080 --> 0:29:00.320 people to know, like I'm a person. I feel like 0:29:00.360 --> 0:29:02.000 for a very long time, just like streamers, I feel 0:29:02.000 --> 0:29:03.520 like for a very long time, I existed on the Internet. 0:29:03.560 --> 0:29:05.560 And this is like the year where everybody started to 0:29:05.560 --> 0:29:06.960 see it in real talent, like this is a real 0:29:07.080 --> 0:29:09.000 like this is a real person, not just some nigga 0:29:09.000 --> 0:29:11.120 that you're seeing on one of them pages on Twitter 0:29:11.200 --> 0:29:12.720 or some ship. Like this is a real deal person. 0:29:12.800 --> 0:29:15.200 And I feel like as I continue to meet more people, 0:29:15.200 --> 0:29:17.200 I think the feedback is, oh, yeah, you just like us. 0:29:17.320 --> 0:29:19.360 And it's just you know, I've been here with that 0:29:19.520 --> 0:29:21.080 raw emotion, man, people can feel that. 0:29:21.120 --> 0:29:23.360 I remember sitting at the house and you know, we 0:29:23.640 --> 0:29:25.920 was listening to Ruben Vincent album with me and no 0:29:25.920 --> 0:29:27.960 Ill of my wife listening to Ruby Vincent albums and Star. 0:29:28.200 --> 0:29:29.080 And I love Marchael plus. 0:29:29.160 --> 0:29:32.160 Now that's my brother, both of them, Ruben and Marco 0:29:32.240 --> 0:29:35.480 them my brother's for real. Very If you like Ruben 0:29:35.520 --> 0:29:37.920 and Marco, you're gonna like. This is Chris Patrick and 0:29:38.040 --> 0:29:39.120 she plays she just started playing. 0:29:39.120 --> 0:29:40.040 I was like, who is Chris Patrick? 0:29:40.040 --> 0:29:41.840 And I was like, oh, that's what the dude from 0:29:41.840 --> 0:29:44.440 the Mafia thumb and she just started playing me music 0:29:44.480 --> 0:29:46.680 and I was just like, oh, I feel what I 0:29:46.800 --> 0:29:47.600 feel what he's doing. 0:29:47.920 --> 0:29:49.600 Hey, I feel what you're doing. Appreciate. 0:29:49.640 --> 0:29:51.080 I'm glad I found, you know, found a way into 0:29:51.080 --> 0:29:53.360 your home to bump that for real? What's a what's a. 0:29:53.360 --> 0:29:56.080 Piece of advice you'd give this someone fighting through the 0:29:56.160 --> 0:29:58.240 same doubts that you once had. 0:29:58.880 --> 0:30:01.760 Show up every day. There's nothing you could do, Like, 0:30:01.800 --> 0:30:03.200 there's nothing more you can do but just show up. 0:30:03.200 --> 0:30:05.000 There's gonna be days where it's not like I'm not 0:30:05.000 --> 0:30:06.840 gonna lie. Don't even think there's perfect situation. The perfect 0:30:06.840 --> 0:30:08.800 situation is always now you can make the situation perfect. 0:30:08.800 --> 0:30:10.160 There are gonna be times where you show up to 0:30:10.280 --> 0:30:13.040 something and it's not going the way it's supposed to go. 0:30:13.560 --> 0:30:16.120 But if you control what you have to do and 0:30:16.160 --> 0:30:18.160 you prepare the way you have to prepare, it could 0:30:18.160 --> 0:30:20.480 become the greatest situation of your life. 0:30:20.520 --> 0:30:22.640 Like, nobody knows what I was going into going through 0:30:22.720 --> 0:30:24.720 before the mafit down, but I showed up and did 0:30:24.800 --> 0:30:26.720 my best and it became a perfect situation, you know 0:30:26.760 --> 0:30:28.480 what I'm saying. And I feel like that's something that 0:30:28.520 --> 0:30:30.600 everybody has to do consistently. Just wake up every day 0:30:30.640 --> 0:30:32.400 and do your thing. As long as you do that, 0:30:32.440 --> 0:30:34.280 you're good. And I feel like if you operate under 0:30:34.320 --> 0:30:35.800 the guys that there is no reward, you're doing it 0:30:35.880 --> 0:30:38.320 for you. You're gonna be rewarded every single day for 0:30:38.400 --> 0:30:40.520 that something is crazy's gonna come your way and it's 0:30:40.520 --> 0:30:42.080 gonna be like damn, I don't even expect it, but 0:30:42.160 --> 0:30:43.720 it's because you work for it unknowingly. 0:30:44.280 --> 0:30:45.720 Oh I know why I bought that up. I bought 0:30:45.720 --> 0:30:47.560 that up because it felt like it feels like it's 0:30:47.600 --> 0:30:50.880 a new class. Yeah you know what I mean. 0:30:51.000 --> 0:30:52.720 Like, you know, we always have that in hip hop, 0:30:52.760 --> 0:30:54.960 and that's why you know, people still sleep on double exelf. 0:30:55.000 --> 0:30:57.000 But I like when they do that freshman class thing. 0:30:57.040 --> 0:30:58.840 But it feels like y'all are a part of a class. 0:30:58.880 --> 0:31:01.000 Do you do you feel that, Like, let's be real, 0:31:01.040 --> 0:31:02.520 when of the last time you've seen it, like, at 0:31:02.600 --> 0:31:04.160 least within this space of hip hop, when's the last 0:31:04.160 --> 0:31:06.160 time you really seen a class of people like this 0:31:06.320 --> 0:31:09.480 many people going up that you identify it together. 0:31:09.560 --> 0:31:10.160 It's been a while. 0:31:10.240 --> 0:31:13.400 Yeah, fifteen plus years ago when it was the Kendricks 0:31:13.440 --> 0:31:16.400 and Nicoles and the Drakes and the Walets and yeah. 0:31:16.600 --> 0:31:18.480 You know, now even know if that's the same area. 0:31:18.480 --> 0:31:19.959 I feel like Lee and Cudding, it might have been 0:31:20.000 --> 0:31:21.200 like a class. 0:31:20.960 --> 0:31:23.000 Before we could group them all up in there, they 0:31:23.320 --> 0:31:25.320 all together in my mind because I feel like everybody 0:31:25.400 --> 0:31:27.560 had impact impact at that time, you know what I'm saying. 0:31:27.840 --> 0:31:29.680 But it's like, you're right, we haven't seen that. 0:31:30.000 --> 0:31:32.360 Like I feel like individuals you might have seen pop 0:31:32.400 --> 0:31:34.400 in and out, but we've never seen this many people 0:31:34.440 --> 0:31:37.000 at least be all cohesive and on the same page 0:31:37.040 --> 0:31:40.320 to do this you don't actually care about actually want 0:31:40.360 --> 0:31:41.800 a rap for real, you know what I'm saying, Like 0:31:41.800 --> 0:31:42.400 I'm not gonna lie. 0:31:42.440 --> 0:31:44.240 I was crapping my projects with like the Rubins, the 0:31:44.280 --> 0:31:47.320 Marcos Bean, Riley Swabs, like Jordan bean Is like every day, 0:31:47.360 --> 0:31:49.640 like we was broke together. We was writing these projects together. 0:31:49.760 --> 0:31:51.640 We were literally like putting all this shit together, bouncing 0:31:51.680 --> 0:31:53.520 off ideas, we playing each other projects. We're like, oh 0:31:53.600 --> 0:31:54.160 yeah we fuck with this. 0:31:54.200 --> 0:31:55.640 We don't fuck with this, Hey, bro work on this, 0:31:55.720 --> 0:31:57.760 Like we always cracking the shit together. And then you 0:31:57.840 --> 0:31:59.320 start to see that expand as we start to meet 0:31:59.320 --> 0:32:01.520 more people and shit like that, like we really all 0:32:01.560 --> 0:32:03.320 coming up together and this shit the same way they was. 0:32:03.480 --> 0:32:05.040 So I'm just glad that everybody else could see it, 0:32:05.080 --> 0:32:06.760 because for a very long time we just felt like 0:32:06.840 --> 0:32:09.360 it was us in this low bubble and nobody realized. 0:32:09.600 --> 0:32:11.280 And then you start seeing one person get it, then 0:32:11.320 --> 0:32:13.680 another person get it, and the third person getting everybody 0:32:13.720 --> 0:32:15.680 talking about everybody. So it's good that y'all can identify 0:32:15.720 --> 0:32:17.520 that the same way we've always been talking about for the. 0:32:17.560 --> 0:32:18.200 Last year and a half. 0:32:18.280 --> 0:32:21.080 I feel like y'all have the So it's the Internet, 0:32:21.160 --> 0:32:22.720 but y'all know what to do with it. Like when 0:32:22.720 --> 0:32:24.240 you mentioned Ruben, I think about like all of his 0:32:24.440 --> 0:32:26.239 visuals and like, you know what I mean, Like when 0:32:26.240 --> 0:32:28.160 I met him, I didn't know who he was, but 0:32:28.240 --> 0:32:30.720 then when I followed him, I'm like, oh, like and 0:32:30.840 --> 0:32:34.080 then I'm hearing your music and Marko plus and like 0:32:34.120 --> 0:32:36.080 all these people. Y'all know how there's like a middle 0:32:36.120 --> 0:32:38.320 point that y'all have figured out where it's Internet, but 0:32:38.440 --> 0:32:41.280 it's substance and it's work in business built around at 0:32:41.320 --> 0:32:44.400 the same time, people can't like juggle that all yeah, 0:32:44.560 --> 0:32:47.360 And that's like itself is like a oh, like it 0:32:47.480 --> 0:32:49.160 makes you want to like tap in, like all right, 0:32:49.200 --> 0:32:49.640 what's next. 0:32:49.880 --> 0:32:51.960 One thing we always study is like, you know, obviously 0:32:52.040 --> 0:32:53.120 like the Cold Drake Kendrick. 0:32:53.160 --> 0:32:54.680 It's like one thing that they always did was beingm 0:32:54.680 --> 0:32:56.640 pactful and regardless of what the Internet is talking about 0:32:56.680 --> 0:32:58.400 as long as you hit that wave and you impactful, 0:32:58.400 --> 0:32:59.800 they're it's cool, but you also got to go touch 0:32:59.800 --> 0:33:01.960 the That's more than anything you got touch with people 0:33:02.000 --> 0:33:04.400 Like this internet shit, it's only as real as we 0:33:04.480 --> 0:33:06.960 let it be. But what's realist Showing up to a 0:33:07.080 --> 0:33:09.080 spot and it's twenty five hundred people there. You ain't 0:33:09.080 --> 0:33:10.680 never met them with Daniel life, but three hundred that 0:33:10.720 --> 0:33:12.080 want to talk to you after the show, they want 0:33:12.080 --> 0:33:14.040 to buy your shit. That's real impact. So as long 0:33:14.040 --> 0:33:15.920 as we can get out there, I mean obviously digitally 0:33:15.920 --> 0:33:17.080 be killing it, but like, if you can go out 0:33:17.080 --> 0:33:19.160 there and touch people in person, you good. 0:33:19.800 --> 0:33:22.680 And you look at your future you know, musically, personally, 0:33:22.720 --> 0:33:25.920 and most importantly spiritually. Yeah, what would success look like 0:33:26.000 --> 0:33:28.360 to you? If you took the charts out, the awards, 0:33:29.120 --> 0:33:31.080 screaming numbers, if you took all that out of the equation, 0:33:31.200 --> 0:33:32.160 what would success look like? 0:33:34.480 --> 0:33:34.720 Shit? 0:33:34.880 --> 0:33:37.960 Mo, Mo, move my parents out of Jersey. They're like Texas, 0:33:37.960 --> 0:33:39.719 they want to move down south for like Georgia. They 0:33:39.720 --> 0:33:41.320 we want to move down south for a very long time. 0:33:41.400 --> 0:33:44.960 And that's really where like my mind is. I swear 0:33:44.960 --> 0:33:46.160 to God, I might even try to lie, but like 0:33:46.280 --> 0:33:47.760 when I have my part time drive. I kind of 0:33:47.800 --> 0:33:49.480 accept that, like if this is where my journey is 0:33:49.840 --> 0:33:51.320 and it's cool, like it's just what it is, that's 0:33:51.320 --> 0:33:52.960 the way it goes. So I feel like what's happening 0:33:53.080 --> 0:33:55.360 right now is the bonus round for me, fucking the 0:33:55.440 --> 0:33:56.920 charts and all that other shit, Like if I could 0:33:57.160 --> 0:33:58.920 make sure my parents is good, like that mean the world, 0:33:58.960 --> 0:34:01.520 because when I it on myself, they never did, so 0:34:01.720 --> 0:34:02.560 like I'm here for that. 0:34:02.840 --> 0:34:05.360 I had that same moment right before I got a 0:34:05.520 --> 0:34:07.080 job that like changed my I was like, yo, if 0:34:07.080 --> 0:34:09.320 it's over right here, I'm cool, Like I didn't and 0:34:09.400 --> 0:34:12.840 then everything just like switch. It was like it's so weird, so. 0:34:13.000 --> 0:34:14.480 Weird had it happens. And I feel like there's a 0:34:14.520 --> 0:34:16.960 lot of detachment there. Unless you unless you seek the outcome, 0:34:17.000 --> 0:34:18.200 the more likely it is for you to come. I 0:34:18.239 --> 0:34:20.920 feel like people who granted I do believe that you 0:34:21.080 --> 0:34:22.600 have to lock in for the work you're doing, but 0:34:22.680 --> 0:34:23.960 it's not for the sake of the outcome. It's for 0:34:24.000 --> 0:34:25.800 the sake of the work. But when you're so focused 0:34:25.800 --> 0:34:27.440 on the result, a lot of times you miss the mark. 0:34:27.760 --> 0:34:29.200 Like you can't be too hyper focused on that. You 0:34:29.239 --> 0:34:31.080 gotta do all the intangibles that people can't see, Like, 0:34:31.239 --> 0:34:32.440 they don't know if you're waking up at five in 0:34:32.440 --> 0:34:33.680 the morning to get right. They don't know if you're 0:34:33.680 --> 0:34:34.920 writing every day, they don't know if you're trying to 0:34:34.960 --> 0:34:36.120 work on X, Y and Z. That's the type of 0:34:36.120 --> 0:34:37.600 stuff that's gonna bring you to where you gotta get to. 0:34:38.080 --> 0:34:40.759 But you know, I feel you congratulations too. Also, I 0:34:40.800 --> 0:34:42.160 think that's an amazing thing that you just shared with 0:34:42.200 --> 0:34:43.880 me because people don't be talking about it like that. 0:34:44.040 --> 0:34:45.000 You do the same shit. 0:34:45.080 --> 0:34:47.239 You said something else that's very important too. You said, 0:34:48.120 --> 0:34:50.960 you know, your last job, if that was it for you, 0:34:51.440 --> 0:34:54.640 you were happy with that, And I truly believe that. 0:34:54.719 --> 0:34:58.080 You know, God isn't gonna bless you with more unless 0:34:58.120 --> 0:35:01.200 you appreciate what you have. Yeah, and you know the 0:35:01.280 --> 0:35:03.680 fact that you had something that you appreciate and you like, 0:35:03.719 --> 0:35:04.799 all right, God, this is cool. 0:35:04.800 --> 0:35:08.319 I'm cool with this. That's why you receiving more blessings now. 0:35:08.600 --> 0:35:08.960 No, lie. 0:35:09.000 --> 0:35:10.359 And that's why I'm trying to go hard too, because 0:35:10.360 --> 0:35:11.600 it's like I feel like in the past, I'm out 0:35:11.600 --> 0:35:14.320 of funding my opportunity, whether it being like I'm blinded 0:35:14.400 --> 0:35:15.239 focused on the rose out. 0:35:15.280 --> 0:35:17.560 You know what I'm saying, doing shit I shouldn't be doing. 0:35:17.680 --> 0:35:19.479 If this is my opportunity to really get it crazy, 0:35:19.520 --> 0:35:21.520 I'm not about to waste this somebody to go dumb hard, 0:35:21.600 --> 0:35:23.640 because really I want to miss it. 0:35:23.760 --> 0:35:27.120 I gotta get it done. Listen, man, Chris Patrick, Pray 0:35:27.200 --> 0:35:29.480 for Me is out December twelfth. That's tomorrow. 0:35:29.800 --> 0:35:33.520 Yeah, today, today, today, today, God damn. 0:35:34.520 --> 0:35:36.719 Chris Pratrick Pray for Me is out right now. Man, 0:35:36.960 --> 0:35:37.759 good meeting you, brother. 0:35:37.920 --> 0:35:39.200 Nah, like well, I appreciate you having me. 0:35:39.239 --> 0:35:40.839 Thank you absolutely. It's the Breakfast Club. 0:35:41.440 --> 0:35:43.439 Wake that ass up in the morning. 0:35:43.640 --> 0:35:44.600 The Breakfast Club.