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Speaker 1: All right, welcome to episode thirty six The Bobby Cast.

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Speaker 1: Here this episode with Walker Hayes. Hey boy, hey buddy. So, uh,

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Speaker 1: I guess now we spent a lot of time together

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Speaker 1: because we're on the road right now together and so

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Speaker 1: now I get to ask the questions that I don't

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Speaker 1: get to ask, like when we're just sitting down, because

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Speaker 1: the people want to know, like the real stuff, and

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Speaker 1: so they'll be stuff like some of the stuff I

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Speaker 1: wouldn't ask you, like we're just hanging out before show,

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Speaker 1: will like tell me your deepest fear a stuff like yeah,

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Speaker 1: I don't know. Yeah, we just talked. Yeah, we're just talked.

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Speaker 1: But we're always like getting ready for stuff too, because

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Speaker 1: you always got go want to play. Um. So here's

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Speaker 1: the the whole. What we'll do is we're kind of

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Speaker 1: encapsulate you and then we'll just work back. So right now,

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Speaker 1: you just signed a record deal to monu My Records.

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Speaker 1: What does that mean? Uh? My goodness. Uh. I mean

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Speaker 1: it means I have another chance and having a career,

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Speaker 1: you know, as an artist, and and that being my

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Speaker 1: full time job. I mean, that's what it means to me.

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Speaker 1: It might sound simple, but that's exactly what it means.

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Speaker 1: It means I have a career, a chance at a career,

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Speaker 1: a long lasting career. Again, yes again, another shot for sure.

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Speaker 1: So you talk about other shots and and just quickly

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Speaker 1: here because then I want to go all the way

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Speaker 1: back through it. But you've been on labels before. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: this is my third record deal. I've been in Nashville

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Speaker 1: twelve years and I Will signed a Mercury got dropped.

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Speaker 1: I'll signed a Capital got dropped, and uh, you know,

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Speaker 1: I didn't think I was going to get another chance

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Speaker 1: because you don't really get that many um here. Most

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Speaker 1: people don't get too and so this is my third.

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Speaker 1: The thing about Walker too is that I we didn't

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Speaker 1: know each other and I we first moved here. It

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Speaker 1: was when my co host, Amy's mom was sick and

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Speaker 1: I got the song and say, hey, this's got any Walker.

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Speaker 1: He's what the song called joy like Judy and so

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Speaker 1: because and I heard the songs, so we'd be choosing

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Speaker 1: to use it to make up as the name's mom

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Speaker 1: was fighting cancer and we were doing a fundraiser and

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Speaker 1: it wasn't for her mom. It was just we were,

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Speaker 1: you know, doing a pimp and joy thing. That's how

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Speaker 1: we met, and so he came and the song actually

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Speaker 1: was downloaded a bunch of times, you know that kind

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Speaker 1: of thing happened, and then I didn't see it for

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Speaker 1: a bit, and see, I don't see anybody first of all,

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Speaker 1: if i didn't see it for a bit. And then

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Speaker 1: I'm on YouTube and I do the thing on YouTube,

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Speaker 1: I find an artist and it'll go also recommended, also recommended,

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Speaker 1: also recommended. And so until I find music and artists

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Speaker 1: and I'll go to SoundCloud, I'll do whatever, and I'm

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Speaker 1: going through and I see this song right here, and

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Speaker 1: I was like that. I was like, you know, that's

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Speaker 1: a joy, like dude together shaking, and I was like,

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Speaker 1: I don't know what this is, but it sounds like

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Speaker 1: nothing else. I remember taking that was like, I sounds

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Speaker 1: like nothing else even stay. So I played it on

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Speaker 1: the radulo the next morning and I was like, I

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Speaker 1: you oddly. And then from there I just started to

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Speaker 1: play all your stuff on the air because I sit

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Speaker 1: there and I'll be like, oh, you think that's good.

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Speaker 1: You got to hear this one star. I was like,

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Speaker 1: my favorite song is a comedian is too bad? Being fun.

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Speaker 1: So all these songs as I would hear them, I

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Speaker 1: right now. I'm period. And I would talk to my

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Speaker 1: friends like Dan Smarts from Dan and Shay, Him and

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Speaker 1: I talked about music a lot, and I was like this, Walker, hey,

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Speaker 1: stuff is like next level, like cerebral type stuff. And

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Speaker 1: I don't even think Aboudy even notices it right now,

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Speaker 1: and he's like, well, you know, we talked about it.

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Speaker 1: Then you end up going on tour with them. Now

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Speaker 1: you're on tour with me, and it's like, that's where

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Speaker 1: we are right now. So that's where, That's where you are.

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Speaker 1: What's where we're gonna come back to. But now I

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Speaker 1: whant to go back to the very beginning. So you

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Speaker 1: talk about you came to Nashville. You came to Nashville.

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Speaker 1: How old were you when you came to Nashville twenty

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Speaker 1: let's see seven four? You go to school and study music.

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Speaker 1: I went to college and I did eventually change my

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Speaker 1: major to piano. I graduated with a degree in music

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Speaker 1: with an emphasis on piano. You're a good piano player,

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Speaker 1: are you? Are you a piano player? Ye? Sit down

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Speaker 1: at the piano and people be like, oh, that guy

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Speaker 1: could play piano. I could, Um, you know, I could.

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Speaker 1: when I moved to Nashville, are you saying backing a

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Speaker 1: little bit like like a golfer would be like, I'm

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Speaker 1: not that good and he no, No, I mean honestly,

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Speaker 1: I didn't. I didn't. I didn't really play piano until

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Speaker 1: It's a lot of muscle memory and a lot of

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Speaker 1: cool stuff I learned. But now I could just cord

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Speaker 1: around kind of like I'm as good at piano as

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Speaker 1: I am a guitar. Songs. You knew the guitar then too,

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Speaker 1: the right, Yeah, well you musical through like elementary school,

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Speaker 1: high school. You're growing up. My wife and I we

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Speaker 1: actually met in a in a school play, you know,

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Speaker 1: So I did that kind of stuff school theater and

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Speaker 1: sang in choirs and things like that. Music really, um,

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Speaker 1: my dad was a music minister before he started selling

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Speaker 1: real estate in Alabama. Yeah, in Alabama, and so uh yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean he kind of gave me that music bug.

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Speaker 1: I didn't really chase it as like a dream, you know,

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Speaker 1: engaged to Laney. You know, we've been dating on and

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Speaker 1: So you went and you performed. You were like, all right,

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Speaker 1: that's what I want to do it. I mean, crazy

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Speaker 1: tell her parents really, and um, they weren't. You weren't

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Speaker 1: All right? So you you decided we're moving to Nashville's

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Speaker 1: So my style back then? I remember two songs that

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Speaker 1: your second label, what year was that, you know, let's

426
00:22:34,040 --> 00:22:38,520
Speaker 1: see it's two thimes, seventies six, probably fourteen, getting fourteen,

427
00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:41,000
Speaker 1: So you get dropped in two thousand and fourteen, So

428
00:22:41,119 --> 00:22:45,680
Speaker 1: what do you do well at that period? I think

429
00:22:45,760 --> 00:22:49,160
Speaker 1: I have four kids, so I'm still not I'm still

430
00:22:49,280 --> 00:22:53,920
Speaker 1: not a truly buried in final financial woes. But I

431
00:22:54,040 --> 00:22:56,600
Speaker 1: had a pub deal, you know, and still my my publishers.

432
00:22:56,920 --> 00:23:00,600
Speaker 1: That's one thing that's that I've always had a pub deal,

433
00:23:01,119 --> 00:23:04,520
Speaker 1: publishers that believe that I can get outside cuts, you know.

434
00:23:04,640 --> 00:23:08,359
Speaker 1: So at that time I didn't. I wouldn't say I

435
00:23:08,520 --> 00:23:11,600
Speaker 1: just shut the artist thing down, but I wrote, man,

436
00:23:11,680 --> 00:23:14,560
Speaker 1: I aimed and aimed to get outside cuts. You know.

437
00:23:14,600 --> 00:23:17,959
Speaker 1: I wanted outside country cuts. I wanted these mainstream artists,

438
00:23:18,720 --> 00:23:21,879
Speaker 1: uh to to you know, I just knew somebody was

439
00:23:21,880 --> 00:23:23,880
Speaker 1: gonna cut one of my songs are gonna be huge.

440
00:23:24,359 --> 00:23:28,800
Speaker 1: Kind of solidified me a spot in that writer community.

441
00:23:29,119 --> 00:23:33,200
Speaker 1: And uh, I eventually did get a cut um from

442
00:23:33,720 --> 00:23:37,160
Speaker 1: Rodney Atkins. Uh he cut one of my songs called

443
00:23:37,200 --> 00:23:40,840
Speaker 1: Touching Feet, and uh it was you know, it was

444
00:23:40,880 --> 00:23:45,159
Speaker 1: a great motivation, you know, to keep on writing and

445
00:23:45,560 --> 00:23:48,879
Speaker 1: didn't end up being a single. But okay, what about

446
00:23:48,920 --> 00:23:58,000
Speaker 1: this one? I kind of forgot about love you repeat.

447
00:24:00,640 --> 00:24:03,840
Speaker 1: That's right, Gus too, right, Yeah, that was the So

448
00:24:03,960 --> 00:24:06,040
Speaker 1: that was when he cut on the next album, and

449
00:24:06,119 --> 00:24:09,000
Speaker 1: that was ended up being his single. Yeah, I think

450
00:24:09,040 --> 00:24:14,720
Speaker 1: I killed his career. No, you didn't, Squeez didn't know.

451
00:24:14,960 --> 00:24:18,479
Speaker 1: He uh. Man, Roddy's a great guy and he believed

452
00:24:18,520 --> 00:24:20,879
Speaker 1: in some of my songs. And man, even though you know,

453
00:24:20,920 --> 00:24:23,560
Speaker 1: I had several of those types of songs that that

454
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:25,920
Speaker 1: would get cut and maybe they weren't the single the

455
00:24:26,000 --> 00:24:28,720
Speaker 1: big the Big Dog on the record, But when you

456
00:24:28,800 --> 00:24:32,040
Speaker 1: get those, man, it just kind of tells you. It's

457
00:24:32,080 --> 00:24:35,560
Speaker 1: like it's like a whisper saying, hey, stick around, It's

458
00:24:35,560 --> 00:24:37,840
Speaker 1: all right, you're here for a reason. What about this

459
00:24:37,920 --> 00:24:41,080
Speaker 1: here cole Forth song Dirty Side Dude, I love this song.

460
00:24:41,280 --> 00:24:44,680
Speaker 1: This is my jams. You're right it Yeah, Yeah, he

461
00:24:44,840 --> 00:24:54,320
Speaker 1: featured me dirty time, but if he side I love

462
00:24:54,560 --> 00:25:07,360
Speaker 1: good Dirty side side? You're looking for sad I loved.

463
00:25:07,520 --> 00:25:09,440
Speaker 1: I didn't know you can dance like I got it?

464
00:25:19,080 --> 00:25:24,080
Speaker 1: So you together. Yeah, I'm super appreciate it. They featured me.

465
00:25:24,640 --> 00:25:26,600
Speaker 1: I'm talking about a perfect girl. Man, I'm gonna tell

466
00:25:26,600 --> 00:25:29,560
Speaker 1: you that everyway stopped looking at Magazine's head on out.

467
00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:31,960
Speaker 1: So you're writing. You're out, you don't have artists, y'll

468
00:25:32,320 --> 00:25:35,680
Speaker 1: what you probably still want, even though you still want

469
00:25:35,720 --> 00:25:38,360
Speaker 1: to be the artist, but you do have you want

470
00:25:38,400 --> 00:25:40,080
Speaker 1: to be the writer. You're talking about having dark times

471
00:25:40,359 --> 00:25:43,720
Speaker 1: like your mind just like where did I tell you what?

472
00:25:44,000 --> 00:25:49,320
Speaker 1: The darkest period I ever experienced here in Nashville was

473
00:25:49,560 --> 00:25:51,879
Speaker 1: past these cuts. You know, you get a couple of cuts,

474
00:25:52,640 --> 00:25:55,240
Speaker 1: and I'm still I'm not able to I mean, I'm

475
00:25:55,280 --> 00:25:57,840
Speaker 1: barely supporting us, you know what I'm saying. No, no,

476
00:25:57,960 --> 00:26:00,520
Speaker 1: the money is not just rolling in from from these

477
00:26:00,600 --> 00:26:03,159
Speaker 1: types of cuts. I'm not having hit singles, which is

478
00:26:03,240 --> 00:26:05,840
Speaker 1: kind of what you gotta have, you know, nowadays to

479
00:26:06,119 --> 00:26:08,560
Speaker 1: to to thrive as a writer. You gonna have one

480
00:26:08,640 --> 00:26:11,440
Speaker 1: every now and then. Um, I'm loving what I'm doing.

481
00:26:11,640 --> 00:26:14,120
Speaker 1: I mean, I feel like I'm getting better and better

482
00:26:14,240 --> 00:26:17,480
Speaker 1: and so much closer to dial in it in, you know,

483
00:26:17,680 --> 00:26:21,240
Speaker 1: with with what artists need and what they want and

484
00:26:21,600 --> 00:26:24,800
Speaker 1: getting those outside cuts. But I'm playing at Puckets boat

485
00:26:24,840 --> 00:26:29,520
Speaker 1: House and money gets real tight. I'm talking seriously tight,

486
00:26:29,760 --> 00:26:32,520
Speaker 1: and uh, I don't really like to ask for help.

487
00:26:33,000 --> 00:26:36,200
Speaker 1: And I had toyed with, you know, getting kind of

488
00:26:36,240 --> 00:26:40,119
Speaker 1: a second gig, and I remember this this night, I

489
00:26:40,200 --> 00:26:44,560
Speaker 1: will never forget. I'm playing Puckets boat House, which, by

490
00:26:44,560 --> 00:26:48,160
Speaker 1: the way, it's like a restaurant and a stage for people.

491
00:26:48,200 --> 00:26:51,000
Speaker 1: I um just so that it's like a very famous

492
00:26:51,080 --> 00:26:55,280
Speaker 1: Nashville Southern food restaurant and there's a stage, right, And

493
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,359
Speaker 1: so what I what I was doing is, you know,

494
00:26:57,400 --> 00:26:59,120
Speaker 1: I didn't have artists deal, but I want to keep

495
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:03,439
Speaker 1: performing so that that the Andy Marshall Puckets so always

496
00:27:03,480 --> 00:27:05,960
Speaker 1: so gracious to me giving me a gig, and I'm

497
00:27:06,000 --> 00:27:08,320
Speaker 1: playing for tips, and what I would do is play

498
00:27:08,359 --> 00:27:11,200
Speaker 1: an hour and then host an open mic night just

499
00:27:11,680 --> 00:27:13,840
Speaker 1: for the community. I wanted to meet new writers and

500
00:27:13,920 --> 00:27:16,720
Speaker 1: stuff and kind of do what people did for me

501
00:27:17,280 --> 00:27:20,120
Speaker 1: in my first couple of years here. So one night,

502
00:27:20,920 --> 00:27:25,159
Speaker 1: this guy comes and his name is Nick Candre, and uh,

503
00:27:25,960 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: sweet sweet guy comes up, wants to play at the

504
00:27:29,680 --> 00:27:32,360
Speaker 1: open mic night. And he just thinks, you know, he's

505
00:27:32,520 --> 00:27:36,119
Speaker 1: he's heard my songs on Rodney, my stuff on Colt.

506
00:27:36,400 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 1: He thinks I'm like Elvis, you know, and he's just

507
00:27:39,440 --> 00:27:42,320
Speaker 1: treating me like it too, and he and he mentions

508
00:27:43,040 --> 00:27:45,119
Speaker 1: at one point in the night that he worked at

509
00:27:45,160 --> 00:27:48,040
Speaker 1: the tire center at Costco, and I was looking for

510
00:27:48,240 --> 00:27:51,800
Speaker 1: a job at night so I could continue writing during

511
00:27:51,880 --> 00:27:55,680
Speaker 1: the day, and so it was just a humbling moment

512
00:27:56,640 --> 00:28:00,520
Speaker 1: to kind of be like, Hey, while you're getting my autograph,

513
00:28:01,240 --> 00:28:04,280
Speaker 1: do you know any you know, is there any openings

514
00:28:04,320 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 1: at Costco? You know, are they looking for people that

515
00:28:06,880 --> 00:28:09,920
Speaker 1: stock stuff overnight and stuff? And he hooked me up

516
00:28:10,320 --> 00:28:12,760
Speaker 1: and that's how I got a job at Costco. But

517
00:28:12,840 --> 00:28:15,560
Speaker 1: it was just I mean, I don't know if embarrassing

518
00:28:15,720 --> 00:28:18,240
Speaker 1: is the word, but you know, it was just it

519
00:28:18,359 --> 00:28:21,520
Speaker 1: was an interesting moment that he saw me as kind

520
00:28:21,560 --> 00:28:24,480
Speaker 1: of like an influence on him musically, and I was

521
00:28:24,600 --> 00:28:28,080
Speaker 1: so happy, you know, to meet me. And I was like, hey,

522
00:28:29,040 --> 00:28:31,200
Speaker 1: uh I kind of need a job, you know, I

523
00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:34,000
Speaker 1: need some help. Can you can you hook me up?

524
00:28:34,320 --> 00:28:37,840
Speaker 1: And uh so that was that that was a low

525
00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:41,960
Speaker 1: a low point for me. Um, kind of having to

526
00:28:42,040 --> 00:28:45,080
Speaker 1: ask for help from that guy. Do you feel like

527
00:28:45,160 --> 00:28:48,240
Speaker 1: he learned from it and appreciate it even more afterward?

528
00:28:49,600 --> 00:28:54,600
Speaker 1: Just through that experience with cost experience, everything everything that

529
00:28:54,840 --> 00:28:57,400
Speaker 1: is connecting with people now is pretty much about that

530
00:28:57,560 --> 00:29:03,320
Speaker 1: experience in my life. So yes, um, it's been truly beneficial. Um,

531
00:29:04,680 --> 00:29:08,360
Speaker 1: I got a great perspective. Uh you know and what matters,

532
00:29:09,480 --> 00:29:11,960
Speaker 1: you know, what matter in life. That's kind of what

533
00:29:12,120 --> 00:29:14,120
Speaker 1: Leela Stars is about. You know, I did a lot

534
00:29:14,240 --> 00:29:18,400
Speaker 1: of I did a lot of I don't know what

535
00:29:18,560 --> 00:29:22,120
Speaker 1: you say, like not soul searching, but you know, we

536
00:29:22,400 --> 00:29:36,560
Speaker 1: uh interesting songs and it's just a roof from about daughter. Yeah. Yeah,

537
00:29:36,640 --> 00:29:39,960
Speaker 1: that song is about the thumb tacks that she gave

538
00:29:40,040 --> 00:29:42,760
Speaker 1: me to hold up the roof of my Honda that

539
00:29:42,840 --> 00:29:45,040
Speaker 1: I had at the time, and when my roof was

540
00:29:45,120 --> 00:29:47,960
Speaker 1: coming down, I lost it and I was just crazy

541
00:29:48,720 --> 00:29:51,520
Speaker 1: at that point in my life. I was drinking a

542
00:29:51,680 --> 00:29:55,920
Speaker 1: time just to kind of cut the edge off the heaviness,

543
00:29:56,640 --> 00:29:59,080
Speaker 1: um and the burdens and stuff that I that was

544
00:29:59,200 --> 00:30:02,960
Speaker 1: kind of up against with wanting to still chase my dream,

545
00:30:03,080 --> 00:30:06,040
Speaker 1: kind of thinking I was nuts um. Pretty much to

546
00:30:06,240 --> 00:30:08,680
Speaker 1: let everybody looking at us from the outside, I probably

547
00:30:08,720 --> 00:30:11,920
Speaker 1: thought I was nuts too. Um. You know, I had

548
00:30:11,960 --> 00:30:14,320
Speaker 1: all the kids and I was still trying to do

549
00:30:14,520 --> 00:30:16,560
Speaker 1: that to take care of them when I could have

550
00:30:17,360 --> 00:30:19,200
Speaker 1: you know, done a lot of other things and made

551
00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,640
Speaker 1: a whole lot of sense, you know, to take care

552
00:30:21,640 --> 00:30:24,680
Speaker 1: of them. But yeah, Little the Stars is about those

553
00:30:24,720 --> 00:30:27,200
Speaker 1: thumb tacks that she she let me borrow, and I

554
00:30:27,360 --> 00:30:32,200
Speaker 1: was really bummed and frustrated at the time the roof

555
00:30:32,360 --> 00:30:33,840
Speaker 1: coming out in my car. I was one of those

556
00:30:33,880 --> 00:30:36,480
Speaker 1: moments in your life where you're looking up and you're like,

557
00:30:36,600 --> 00:30:38,960
Speaker 1: you gotta be kidding me, you know, like I need

558
00:30:39,080 --> 00:30:44,360
Speaker 1: one freaking more thing unit to carry right now. And uh,

559
00:30:45,000 --> 00:30:47,200
Speaker 1: one morning, when I was about to clock in at Costco,

560
00:30:47,320 --> 00:30:50,480
Speaker 1: I looked up and I saw those thumb tacks and

561
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:54,959
Speaker 1: it just reminded me. Well, first I thought of her

562
00:30:55,120 --> 00:30:58,640
Speaker 1: face and just her smile and how much fun she

563
00:30:58,800 --> 00:31:03,120
Speaker 1: had putting those up, and uh, she just thought they're awesome.

564
00:31:03,320 --> 00:31:06,240
Speaker 1: You know, they made the car look incredible, And it

565
00:31:06,360 --> 00:31:09,160
Speaker 1: was just an interesting perspective at that time to remember, Hey,

566
00:31:09,160 --> 00:31:12,120
Speaker 1: I got healthy kids, I do have a job. I

567
00:31:12,200 --> 00:31:15,080
Speaker 1: have to you know what I mean. And I'm still

568
00:31:15,760 --> 00:31:20,280
Speaker 1: able to write. My wife never was unhappy, you know.

569
00:31:20,560 --> 00:31:24,880
Speaker 1: I was really the only one, uh that was unhappy. Um.

570
00:31:24,960 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 1: And so that was a that was a great moment

571
00:31:27,440 --> 00:31:30,120
Speaker 1: um and and got a cool song out of it.

572
00:31:30,720 --> 00:31:32,440
Speaker 1: So you were drinking a lot. You don't drink it

573
00:31:32,480 --> 00:31:35,240
Speaker 1: all now, so so you must be drinking a lot.

574
00:31:37,480 --> 00:31:40,600
Speaker 1: I have to stop, man, I was, I mean, we want,

575
00:31:40,640 --> 00:31:42,800
Speaker 1: we want to talk about numbers. I mean I was like,

576
00:31:43,880 --> 00:31:47,600
Speaker 1: I mean, I was drinking from I was drunk at Costco. Um.

577
00:31:47,920 --> 00:31:51,000
Speaker 1: You know, obviously I was doing my work, um, working hard,

578
00:31:51,080 --> 00:31:54,480
Speaker 1: but I mean I was, I was drinking on on

579
00:31:54,680 --> 00:31:57,160
Speaker 1: breaks at Costco. You know, I go to the parking lot,

580
00:31:58,200 --> 00:32:01,320
Speaker 1: you know, and do that leave, go do a show

581
00:32:01,360 --> 00:32:04,400
Speaker 1: with the Bluebird. You know, they were hiring me for shows.

582
00:32:04,440 --> 00:32:07,040
Speaker 1: I was still able to get some work out of them. Um.

583
00:32:07,200 --> 00:32:10,320
Speaker 1: I drink before him, drinking after him, drink while I wrote,

584
00:32:10,720 --> 00:32:17,760
Speaker 1: drive home, drink because you're sad man. Uh yeah, I

585
00:32:17,840 --> 00:32:21,280
Speaker 1: think you know, I think I was just uh, I

586
00:32:21,400 --> 00:32:25,560
Speaker 1: just didn't want to face not making it, you know,

587
00:32:25,760 --> 00:32:29,320
Speaker 1: not not being able to to take care of everybody.

588
00:32:29,480 --> 00:32:32,400
Speaker 1: You know. It's it's almost like when you're drunk. Uh,

589
00:32:33,520 --> 00:32:35,720
Speaker 1: those things aren't as heavy, you know, they don't matter,

590
00:32:36,160 --> 00:32:39,800
Speaker 1: I guess, and um, drinking a little bit out of

591
00:32:40,680 --> 00:32:45,600
Speaker 1: just insecurity and fear, you know, I guess, uh, you know,

592
00:32:45,840 --> 00:32:48,520
Speaker 1: just scared. What was the point where you were like, Okay,

593
00:32:48,520 --> 00:32:51,040
Speaker 1: I gotta I gotta chill, dude. Me Quitting is the

594
00:32:51,120 --> 00:32:54,200
Speaker 1: weirdest story, I don't, you know. Hopefully at some point

595
00:32:54,240 --> 00:32:55,920
Speaker 1: it will make sense where I could kind of help

596
00:32:56,000 --> 00:33:00,920
Speaker 1: other people and and and and and explain it, but honestly,

597
00:33:01,760 --> 00:33:04,320
Speaker 1: I mean I think I was. I think my body

598
00:33:04,480 --> 00:33:07,600
Speaker 1: just said to my brain, you have to you have

599
00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,760
Speaker 1: to quit. You know, we're working and drinking that much.

600
00:33:11,360 --> 00:33:14,240
Speaker 1: I woke up on a Saturday. I remember that as

601
00:33:14,280 --> 00:33:18,640
Speaker 1: in October football game day, me and football. Not drinking

602
00:33:18,760 --> 00:33:21,080
Speaker 1: just didn't ever happen. That hadn't happened since I was

603
00:33:21,160 --> 00:33:24,760
Speaker 1: probably like fifteen, I don't know, something crazy like that.

604
00:33:25,440 --> 00:33:28,000
Speaker 1: And I just didn't drink one Saturday. And I don't

605
00:33:28,000 --> 00:33:30,880
Speaker 1: even know why. I didn't like wake up and say, man,

606
00:33:30,920 --> 00:33:35,800
Speaker 1: I gotta stop. I just woke up, didn't drink that day. Um,

607
00:33:36,480 --> 00:33:38,920
Speaker 1: didn't drink on Sunday. A couple of days turned into

608
00:33:38,960 --> 00:33:42,960
Speaker 1: a week, you know, and then it became this like

609
00:33:43,320 --> 00:33:47,120
Speaker 1: challenge where it was like I've gone this far, I

610
00:33:47,200 --> 00:33:50,720
Speaker 1: want to go backwards, you know. And I also kind

611
00:33:50,760 --> 00:33:53,640
Speaker 1: of had a little sobriety high. You know, when you

612
00:33:53,760 --> 00:33:57,680
Speaker 1: quit drinking you've been drinking that much, your body feels

613
00:33:57,760 --> 00:34:02,160
Speaker 1: really really good once it gets over, um, you know,

614
00:34:02,320 --> 00:34:05,920
Speaker 1: not craving just to drink with with all your might.

615
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:11,120
Speaker 1: But so yeah, now I'm like that was two octobers ago,

616
00:34:11,239 --> 00:34:14,320
Speaker 1: so I'm a year and almost a half. The funny

617
00:34:14,360 --> 00:34:17,560
Speaker 1: thing is I don't drink. Guy there, Walker doesn't drink.

618
00:34:17,880 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: And when we go on tour, beer like the writers

619
00:34:20,600 --> 00:34:24,239
Speaker 1: like full of beer and around it just sits there.

620
00:34:24,920 --> 00:34:27,680
Speaker 1: It's like, Walker, I know you don't drink, but if

621
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:29,840
Speaker 1: you know anybody that wants beer, they can have it.

622
00:34:30,280 --> 00:34:33,120
Speaker 1: Send Nikita end up drinking some of it. Show a

623
00:34:33,200 --> 00:34:35,520
Speaker 1: little Nikita. So okay, tell me about this song here,

624
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:41,680
Speaker 1: all right, this one, let's play. Let's see, man, I

625
00:34:41,719 --> 00:34:43,600
Speaker 1: got all of them. It's like asking me which kid

626
00:34:43,640 --> 00:34:46,440
Speaker 1: I'd like to do here? Talk about this one beer

627
00:34:46,800 --> 00:34:51,200
Speaker 1: in the fridge. I quit drinking. The reason I want

628
00:34:51,239 --> 00:34:54,520
Speaker 1: to get drunk because I played on the radio. I

629
00:34:54,600 --> 00:34:56,759
Speaker 1: was like, I was moved by the song. Yeah, I

630
00:34:56,840 --> 00:35:01,440
Speaker 1: still account for the cups when I'm driving around town

631
00:35:03,120 --> 00:35:05,840
Speaker 1: and I'm still not quite sure what to do with

632
00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,440
Speaker 1: my hands. It's in a crowd. There's a lot I

633
00:35:09,640 --> 00:35:15,040
Speaker 1: can't remember, and a lot I can't get one silver

634
00:35:15,200 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: bulling in the chamber. And I don't play rush rule

635
00:35:18,560 --> 00:35:26,759
Speaker 1: it without being the friend. Last of twelves, soul surviving,

636
00:35:26,920 --> 00:35:29,720
Speaker 1: but my last all not the back of the bottom

637
00:35:30,120 --> 00:35:33,440
Speaker 1: how ruled that all It's gonna be so real man. Uh,

638
00:35:34,680 --> 00:35:38,080
Speaker 1: it just touches on a lot of you know, fears,

639
00:35:39,120 --> 00:35:42,160
Speaker 1: insecurities that I deal with. And like you know, you're asking,

640
00:35:42,920 --> 00:35:45,800
Speaker 1: you know, why were you drinking that much? Uh? You

641
00:35:45,840 --> 00:35:49,520
Speaker 1: know my wife has never never threatened to leave me,

642
00:35:49,719 --> 00:35:55,640
Speaker 1: but she probably should have several times you know in

643
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:58,640
Speaker 1: those in those in that time period, you know, when

644
00:35:58,719 --> 00:36:03,880
Speaker 1: I was drinking that much and uh there you know

645
00:36:04,000 --> 00:36:07,719
Speaker 1: there was there's so many lines in that song the front.

646
00:36:07,800 --> 00:36:11,560
Speaker 1: My one song line, one lyric in that song that

647
00:36:11,600 --> 00:36:15,239
Speaker 1: I feel like describes me and something that I that

648
00:36:15,239 --> 00:36:17,360
Speaker 1: I deal with is the first one about ranting to

649
00:36:17,440 --> 00:36:21,560
Speaker 1: your mama, church, Mama, praying for you is now well,

650
00:36:21,640 --> 00:36:25,040
Speaker 1: like I'm just I just care what people think, you know,

651
00:36:25,200 --> 00:36:27,800
Speaker 1: and I and I and I in my own worst

652
00:36:27,840 --> 00:36:32,520
Speaker 1: critic as well. And drinking, uh made me care less.

653
00:36:33,040 --> 00:36:36,520
Speaker 1: You know that was one positive about drinking. You know

654
00:36:36,600 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: obviously don't you don't need to drink to do that.

655
00:36:38,680 --> 00:36:44,719
Speaker 1: But you know, I I feel pressure, you know, to

656
00:36:45,320 --> 00:36:49,840
Speaker 1: to be a certain just I don't know, to succeed,

657
00:36:50,280 --> 00:36:53,600
Speaker 1: you know, and uh, prem yourself for myself. But but

658
00:36:53,800 --> 00:36:55,799
Speaker 1: you know, like I said, when I told Lady's parents

659
00:36:55,880 --> 00:36:58,440
Speaker 1: we were coming here. I feel the eyes, you know,

660
00:36:58,520 --> 00:37:01,759
Speaker 1: I feel the fill, people saying, are you crazy, You're

661
00:37:01,760 --> 00:37:03,680
Speaker 1: not gonna make it, You're not good enough. You know

662
00:37:03,840 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: you're not this, And I don't want to believe them,

663
00:37:06,440 --> 00:37:08,440
Speaker 1: but I kind of do. And when I'm drinking, I

664
00:37:08,520 --> 00:37:11,279
Speaker 1: definitely don't. I don't care what they think. Um, but

665
00:37:12,320 --> 00:37:14,200
Speaker 1: that song is so true, you know the line about

666
00:37:14,280 --> 00:37:17,759
Speaker 1: the hands. I mean, dude, the first show that I

667
00:37:17,920 --> 00:37:23,640
Speaker 1: played without a beer, I just felt completely naked. I mean,

668
00:37:23,640 --> 00:37:28,080
Speaker 1: I've never felt stupider in my life because, you know,

669
00:37:28,280 --> 00:37:31,680
Speaker 1: so many years of strumming that last chord and reaching

670
00:37:31,800 --> 00:37:34,840
Speaker 1: for that beer. I was to a point where just

671
00:37:35,680 --> 00:37:38,560
Speaker 1: holding a beer before I even opened the thing it

672
00:37:38,840 --> 00:37:42,680
Speaker 1: gave it made me feel a sense of security. You know.

673
00:37:42,800 --> 00:37:45,480
Speaker 1: That's kind of where I was with drinking. But yeah,

674
00:37:45,520 --> 00:37:49,239
Speaker 1: it's true. I mean, um, but again I will say,

675
00:37:49,280 --> 00:37:52,680
Speaker 1: I mean, Lenny, it's not true. I didn't lose you know,

676
00:37:53,080 --> 00:37:56,720
Speaker 1: my wife, but uh, you know, she saved many tears,

677
00:37:57,719 --> 00:37:59,560
Speaker 1: you know, talking to me about it, and I was

678
00:37:59,640 --> 00:38:03,040
Speaker 1: at a went where I admitted, you know, she would

679
00:38:03,080 --> 00:38:06,560
Speaker 1: say things like she didn't say things anymore like do

680
00:38:06,680 --> 00:38:09,920
Speaker 1: you have a problem. I would admit I wasn't in denial.

681
00:38:10,239 --> 00:38:11,800
Speaker 1: At the point when I quit, I said, I do

682
00:38:11,960 --> 00:38:14,800
Speaker 1: have a problem, and I can't. I'm not gonna go

683
00:38:14,960 --> 00:38:18,920
Speaker 1: without it. You know, I need this right now for me,

684
00:38:19,120 --> 00:38:22,040
Speaker 1: you know, I want to move over to the comedian. Yeah,

685
00:38:23,840 --> 00:38:29,080
Speaker 1: your dark songs like resonate with me, like hardcore, like

686
00:38:29,560 --> 00:38:31,600
Speaker 1: being in the fridge. You know, I come from a

687
00:38:31,680 --> 00:38:34,279
Speaker 1: family of addicts and alcoholics. And I was like, damn,

688
00:38:34,320 --> 00:38:36,279
Speaker 1: ma I just I just I feel the honesty in

689
00:38:36,320 --> 00:38:39,160
Speaker 1: these songs um with the comedian, which I'm gonna play

690
00:38:39,280 --> 00:38:44,320
Speaker 1: right here. It's too bad. Being funny and being happy.

691
00:38:44,520 --> 00:38:49,239
Speaker 1: He ain't the same thing. It ain't the same thing.

692
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,719
Speaker 1: It's so sad some of the onliest hearts in the

693
00:38:54,840 --> 00:39:01,000
Speaker 1: crowd of the most enter thing. Such a strange he

694
00:39:01,200 --> 00:39:04,640
Speaker 1: is to the ones who make and laugh to keep

695
00:39:04,719 --> 00:39:08,000
Speaker 1: themselves from crying, gears to the ones who make is

696
00:39:08,200 --> 00:39:13,400
Speaker 1: laugh to keep themselves from cry. Like I heard this

697
00:39:13,440 --> 00:39:19,239
Speaker 1: song and it's tell you it's like it can and

698
00:39:19,400 --> 00:39:24,880
Speaker 1: I have issues like that, like where it's you know,

699
00:39:25,680 --> 00:39:28,359
Speaker 1: I want to make people laugh so they can't see

700
00:39:28,560 --> 00:39:30,960
Speaker 1: how sad. And it's the process that I've been dealing

701
00:39:31,000 --> 00:39:34,400
Speaker 1: with for a long time, and it's that's the front

702
00:39:34,960 --> 00:39:37,839
Speaker 1: you try to people laugh, That's where you find love.

703
00:39:38,680 --> 00:39:40,600
Speaker 1: That's where I always was able to find love. Like

704
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:42,640
Speaker 1: let maybe the guy that make people laugh, because that's

705
00:39:42,719 --> 00:39:45,719
Speaker 1: I'll find the love from that. I have trouble accepting love,

706
00:39:45,760 --> 00:39:47,880
Speaker 1: of trouble giving love just from the environment. You know,

707
00:39:47,960 --> 00:39:49,960
Speaker 1: you and I talking about a nature or nurture, like

708
00:39:50,040 --> 00:39:52,759
Speaker 1: we have that conversation like away from stuff, and you know,

709
00:39:52,840 --> 00:39:55,680
Speaker 1: for me, I think it was definitely nurture the love thing.

710
00:39:55,719 --> 00:39:57,600
Speaker 1: And I heard that song, I was like, dear God,

711
00:39:57,640 --> 00:39:59,719
Speaker 1: are you writing songs from my brain? Like every song

712
00:40:00,000 --> 00:40:02,640
Speaker 1: he would sing, I'll be like God. So the comedian

713
00:40:02,719 --> 00:40:05,279
Speaker 1: is that about a front of your specifically? So with

714
00:40:05,400 --> 00:40:07,759
Speaker 1: high school with them? Yeah, it's about a friend I

715
00:40:07,880 --> 00:40:12,200
Speaker 1: grew up with and he did not, uh commit suicide. Hey,

716
00:40:12,239 --> 00:40:15,120
Speaker 1: but he died at an early age. And um he

717
00:40:15,320 --> 00:40:19,680
Speaker 1: was that guy, uh you know, just hilarious. Um, but

718
00:40:19,800 --> 00:40:22,560
Speaker 1: did have issues, you know, and as we all do.

719
00:40:22,840 --> 00:40:26,600
Speaker 1: You know, I think so many people can can relate

720
00:40:26,680 --> 00:40:29,359
Speaker 1: with that song. You know. It's that we all try

721
00:40:29,400 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 1: to find that affirmation. That's never really enough, but it

722
00:40:32,600 --> 00:40:37,919
Speaker 1: sure helps, you know, it doesn't sustain any any long

723
00:40:38,200 --> 00:40:42,400
Speaker 1: term healing or fix us. You know, it's like drinking

724
00:40:42,440 --> 00:40:44,799
Speaker 1: a beer. And it does make me feel good immediately,

725
00:40:45,400 --> 00:40:48,080
Speaker 1: you know, and as does me performing on stage and

726
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:50,480
Speaker 1: getting that laughing. It makes me feel like I just

727
00:40:50,600 --> 00:40:53,480
Speaker 1: jumped out of a plane. You know. But when you

728
00:40:53,560 --> 00:40:55,720
Speaker 1: get back in your green room and you all by yourself,

729
00:40:56,600 --> 00:40:58,800
Speaker 1: all the real stuff comes back, you know, when you

730
00:40:58,880 --> 00:41:02,160
Speaker 1: gotta do it again. But yeah, that that song. I'm

731
00:41:02,320 --> 00:41:06,600
Speaker 1: so glad a guy named Matt Jenkins and Josh Jenkins

732
00:41:06,800 --> 00:41:09,759
Speaker 1: they wrote it with me, and they were insistent that

733
00:41:10,000 --> 00:41:13,879
Speaker 1: that we that we do that song together, and I'm

734
00:41:13,920 --> 00:41:17,000
Speaker 1: glad you appreciate it. I'm glad people. Yeah, that's like

735
00:41:17,120 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: and and we'll get to the more of beat stuff

736
00:41:18,480 --> 00:41:21,120
Speaker 1: because you have a sound that is not like anyone else.

737
00:41:21,160 --> 00:41:23,319
Speaker 1: But I just you know, it's my podcast. I told

738
00:41:23,320 --> 00:41:25,600
Speaker 1: about whatever I want. So those are like, those are

739
00:41:25,600 --> 00:41:28,640
Speaker 1: the songs that hit me hard. And I was just like, okay,

740
00:41:28,680 --> 00:41:31,239
Speaker 1: he's like speed songs a lot of times don't speak

741
00:41:31,239 --> 00:41:35,040
Speaker 1: in real human words anymore. And when you do feel

742
00:41:35,080 --> 00:41:37,160
Speaker 1: something out then in regardless of sonically what it sounds like,

743
00:41:37,960 --> 00:41:41,239
Speaker 1: it being authentic still cuts through no matter what's behind it?

744
00:41:41,800 --> 00:41:44,720
Speaker 1: Something for real still cuts through regardless of the format

745
00:41:44,800 --> 00:41:48,320
Speaker 1: the instruments, like realness cuts through. And so that's what

746
00:41:48,400 --> 00:41:53,439
Speaker 1: I felt from like stars and the Comedian and beer

747
00:41:53,480 --> 00:41:56,680
Speaker 1: in the fridge, and but then you know, you got

748
00:41:56,719 --> 00:42:02,439
Speaker 1: stuff like break the inner back, a little bit of shake,

749
00:42:02,560 --> 00:42:06,040
Speaker 1: shake a little bit, how did your dog? You make?

750
00:42:06,080 --> 00:42:09,120
Speaker 1: All the stuff in your shack? And then beat on tables,

751
00:42:09,160 --> 00:42:12,120
Speaker 1: beat on the wall, slammed the door, all these sounds.

752
00:42:12,840 --> 00:42:15,040
Speaker 1: It's see you in that microphone and you're beaten cups

753
00:42:15,080 --> 00:42:22,080
Speaker 1: and it sounds. Listen, I got a keyboard, break back

754
00:42:22,239 --> 00:42:29,239
Speaker 1: the internet. You're doing all these bats B G B maniacs.

755
00:42:29,360 --> 00:42:33,880
Speaker 1: But I got the record. As you're cutting this and

756
00:42:33,920 --> 00:42:35,839
Speaker 1: you're playing it for people, what are they saying to you, Like, man,

757
00:42:35,840 --> 00:42:37,640
Speaker 1: itsn't gonna work? Or is its great? Or what they

758
00:42:37,760 --> 00:42:41,120
Speaker 1: are they saying? Well, uh, you know, my the people

759
00:42:41,200 --> 00:42:45,880
Speaker 1: at my publishing company, they saw me obviously, uh you know,

760
00:42:45,960 --> 00:42:48,440
Speaker 1: to write songs, but wanted me to. They saw me

761
00:42:48,520 --> 00:42:51,400
Speaker 1: with the intention of me being an artist. And you know,

762
00:42:51,480 --> 00:42:55,000
Speaker 1: I think at first they thought, hey, he's gonna write

763
00:42:55,040 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: that one, you know, dangerous one on the country Ready,

764
00:42:58,280 --> 00:43:02,640
Speaker 1: you know that country radio slap Slam first release, bah Boom,

765
00:43:03,480 --> 00:43:06,759
Speaker 1: And what happened was I kind of got off therapeutic

766
00:43:07,120 --> 00:43:09,400
Speaker 1: you know, on them, like you talk about Comedian and

767
00:43:09,480 --> 00:43:13,080
Speaker 1: stuff like that. Those feel so good for me to write,

768
00:43:13,200 --> 00:43:15,680
Speaker 1: you know, sometimes it's just great to get that stuff

769
00:43:15,800 --> 00:43:18,360
Speaker 1: off of your chest and tell everybody that makes me

770
00:43:18,480 --> 00:43:20,120
Speaker 1: feel better. And so that's what I was doing with

771
00:43:20,200 --> 00:43:24,000
Speaker 1: those those dark ones and then the happy ones. That's

772
00:43:24,040 --> 00:43:26,440
Speaker 1: just kind of how that's how I want a party,

773
00:43:26,600 --> 00:43:28,399
Speaker 1: you know, that's the stuff I want to play live.

774
00:43:28,800 --> 00:43:33,200
Speaker 1: And they definitely were. What what happened once I started

775
00:43:33,200 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: turning and turning them in and my team didn't see

776
00:43:36,880 --> 00:43:40,560
Speaker 1: really a fast track. Hey this is going to country radio,

777
00:43:41,120 --> 00:43:44,600
Speaker 1: you know obviously from the sound. But they just love them,

778
00:43:44,760 --> 00:43:46,879
Speaker 1: you know, they liked they loved the song. They found

779
00:43:46,920 --> 00:43:50,200
Speaker 1: themselves listening to them, um and cheat And I know

780
00:43:50,320 --> 00:43:53,080
Speaker 1: it's cheesy, but I even found myself I would listen

781
00:43:53,120 --> 00:43:54,920
Speaker 1: to them like they're not me. I'd be like, I

782
00:43:55,040 --> 00:43:58,960
Speaker 1: just liked this song the Comedian you know too. Yeah,

783
00:44:00,880 --> 00:44:06,320
Speaker 1: my money wi shock sucking based on my money on

784
00:44:06,440 --> 00:44:09,440
Speaker 1: a honey you make me want to shake time cruise

785
00:44:09,520 --> 00:44:11,359
Speaker 1: in my mind, he said to be, I say that's

786
00:44:11,360 --> 00:44:13,279
Speaker 1: something me. I scrubb in the front seat telling me

787
00:44:13,480 --> 00:44:18,320
Speaker 1: hanging out like Mike my Dina funk of all this

788
00:44:18,400 --> 00:44:21,280
Speaker 1: project was the first song you wrote. So the first

789
00:44:21,400 --> 00:44:29,319
Speaker 1: song on this project that was written was either say

790
00:44:29,400 --> 00:44:31,399
Speaker 1: sober you broke up with me? I don't know which

791
00:44:31,520 --> 00:44:35,600
Speaker 1: came first, the chicken or the egg um, but yeah,

792
00:44:35,640 --> 00:44:39,160
Speaker 1: those those those two you broke up with me was

793
00:44:39,280 --> 00:44:43,080
Speaker 1: the one where we all went, Hey, keep doing that,

794
00:44:43,960 --> 00:44:50,040
Speaker 1: because that's something about that. It's unique and digestible. And

795
00:44:50,160 --> 00:44:55,960
Speaker 1: this is a single now he broke up to see me?

796
00:44:57,960 --> 00:45:01,640
Speaker 1: But hey, can you broke up with me? It was

797
00:45:01,800 --> 00:45:05,840
Speaker 1: can I say anything? You broke up me? What's funny

798
00:45:05,880 --> 00:45:08,959
Speaker 1: is I remember texting you because this song came out. Yeah,

799
00:45:09,320 --> 00:45:11,759
Speaker 1: you know you produced it yourself. And I tell us, like, hey,

800
00:45:12,040 --> 00:45:14,879
Speaker 1: or the new version, it's it's produced slightly different parts,

801
00:45:14,880 --> 00:45:18,000
Speaker 1: it's like more radio palatable. And your response was I'm

802
00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:21,919
Speaker 1: listening to it like I never heard of before. God

803
00:45:22,000 --> 00:45:25,680
Speaker 1: and you can't grasp my party with yo. Sorry, sound bodies,

804
00:45:25,719 --> 00:45:29,520
Speaker 1: don't be raining on my money proper rate for a minute.

805
00:45:30,280 --> 00:45:33,879
Speaker 1: I ain't eat my fix. Listen the yoga tripping y'o

806
00:45:33,960 --> 00:45:36,719
Speaker 1: focus and girl you made Yo Man and then on

807
00:45:36,960 --> 00:45:42,120
Speaker 1: me in and whoa simmer down to night and nobody

808
00:45:42,200 --> 00:45:48,799
Speaker 1: making you watch me get my FeAs my That is good.

809
00:45:48,920 --> 00:45:50,800
Speaker 1: So that's a single now and you're working out, you know.

810
00:45:50,960 --> 00:45:53,560
Speaker 1: The interesting thing is is that And I'll just talk

811
00:45:53,600 --> 00:45:55,960
Speaker 1: about my listeners for a second, because I can always

812
00:45:56,000 --> 00:46:01,080
Speaker 1: tell by my listeners if it's a suppose the right way,

813
00:46:01,600 --> 00:46:04,399
Speaker 1: what will work, because all I gotta do is play something.

814
00:46:04,920 --> 00:46:07,080
Speaker 1: My listeners are no bs and they don't like it.

815
00:46:07,200 --> 00:46:09,920
Speaker 1: They just don't. They don't do what I say. I

816
00:46:10,040 --> 00:46:12,279
Speaker 1: just try to give them good options that they probably

817
00:46:12,320 --> 00:46:15,000
Speaker 1: wouldn't be able to hear other places. Like honestly, god,

818
00:46:15,280 --> 00:46:18,439
Speaker 1: I can't make them do anything. But what I try

819
00:46:18,480 --> 00:46:21,200
Speaker 1: to do in my job is go, this is different

820
00:46:21,960 --> 00:46:24,120
Speaker 1: or this is really good, and you're not going to

821
00:46:24,239 --> 00:46:26,640
Speaker 1: hear this anywhere else, and if you like it, then

822
00:46:26,800 --> 00:46:29,560
Speaker 1: consume it. However, and I played that song, and I

823
00:46:29,640 --> 00:46:31,680
Speaker 1: looked at an iTunes before I played it because I

824
00:46:31,760 --> 00:46:34,000
Speaker 1: like to see what happens. And I gave it one

825
00:46:34,200 --> 00:46:37,120
Speaker 1: full spin. It was a three. I played it one

826
00:46:37,160 --> 00:46:38,879
Speaker 1: time with an hour and half went to thirty eight

827
00:46:39,040 --> 00:46:41,160
Speaker 1: or something, and I was in it, and for me,

828
00:46:41,239 --> 00:46:44,440
Speaker 1: it wasn't a like for me. It wasn't like, man, Bobby,

829
00:46:44,480 --> 00:46:46,520
Speaker 1: I told you you knew what was good. It was

830
00:46:47,280 --> 00:46:50,279
Speaker 1: God if people can get out of that box a

831
00:46:50,360 --> 00:46:54,920
Speaker 1: little bit and see this is one spin. People reacted

832
00:46:54,960 --> 00:46:59,440
Speaker 1: to this song. And so you know, I've tinkered with

833
00:46:59,560 --> 00:47:01,400
Speaker 1: it a bit more. But now it's kind of like,

834
00:47:01,600 --> 00:47:03,360
Speaker 1: let's let's let the label see what they can do.

835
00:47:04,120 --> 00:47:07,360
Speaker 1: But it's gotta be cool to see people hear it

836
00:47:07,600 --> 00:47:09,800
Speaker 1: and go, wow, I heard it. Now, I like it.

837
00:47:09,920 --> 00:47:12,359
Speaker 1: Let me buy that. Yeah, it's gonna be some kind

838
00:47:12,400 --> 00:47:14,560
Speaker 1: of it, like like, okay, maybe there's something to this.

839
00:47:14,640 --> 00:47:18,279
Speaker 1: Do you feel that? Oh? Man? Yes? And uh, you

840
00:47:18,320 --> 00:47:20,320
Speaker 1: know you have. The first question you're asking was what

841
00:47:20,480 --> 00:47:23,520
Speaker 1: it what's it mean for you to to be on

842
00:47:23,600 --> 00:47:29,040
Speaker 1: a label? And I just didn't It's all every day

843
00:47:29,719 --> 00:47:34,719
Speaker 1: it's a good day. I'm not kidding though. I mean

844
00:47:34,880 --> 00:47:39,640
Speaker 1: every that that day we celebrated. I celebrate everything right now.

845
00:47:39,920 --> 00:47:43,480
Speaker 1: And that is amazing that that that I woke up

846
00:47:43,560 --> 00:47:46,759
Speaker 1: that day and you know, you play my song one

847
00:47:46,840 --> 00:47:50,759
Speaker 1: time and it does that and and yes, man, I

848
00:47:50,840 --> 00:47:53,480
Speaker 1: mean you know, you work so hard on music and

849
00:47:53,600 --> 00:47:56,239
Speaker 1: you just think it's so good and and you just

850
00:47:56,440 --> 00:47:59,040
Speaker 1: then he produced and it's so awesome and then he

851
00:47:59,160 --> 00:48:03,640
Speaker 1: put out put it out there, and you're like, it's

852
00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:08,560
Speaker 1: time to see. You know, the critics are paying and

853
00:48:08,840 --> 00:48:12,239
Speaker 1: using their criticizing with their money, and when they pay it,

854
00:48:12,280 --> 00:48:16,960
Speaker 1: they're not criticized. And when they don't pay it, they cize, right,

855
00:48:17,040 --> 00:48:19,960
Speaker 1: and so now just to see I mean, we had

856
00:48:20,000 --> 00:48:22,880
Speaker 1: a sick first week when we blew it up and

857
00:48:23,280 --> 00:48:26,239
Speaker 1: it was awesome, and yeah, I mean it is so

858
00:48:26,840 --> 00:48:30,480
Speaker 1: it is so gratifying. Uh, you know that people that

859
00:48:30,600 --> 00:48:32,839
Speaker 1: people liked it like they're liking it. I mean, hey,

860
00:48:32,880 --> 00:48:35,279
Speaker 1: another song too that I saw a track and I

861
00:48:35,400 --> 00:48:36,920
Speaker 1: was like, how can this song even be a song?

862
00:48:36,960 --> 00:48:39,200
Speaker 1: He just by looking at the name of it. I

863
00:48:39,320 --> 00:48:43,319
Speaker 1: was like, yeah, I was like, he wrote a song

864
00:48:43,440 --> 00:48:46,920
Speaker 1: about Halloween. And I remember because I think it was

865
00:48:47,000 --> 00:48:49,160
Speaker 1: on the second the set. But how long is that

866
00:48:49,200 --> 00:48:53,640
Speaker 1: the second age break the Internet? So Halloween? I was like, well,

867
00:48:53,719 --> 00:48:56,160
Speaker 1: let me even see what this song is about Halloween?

868
00:48:56,719 --> 00:48:58,520
Speaker 1: Like what is this about that? Dude? One? Like one

869
00:48:58,560 --> 00:49:01,880
Speaker 1: of the deepest songs and a beautiful way, because that's

870
00:49:01,960 --> 00:49:04,520
Speaker 1: like I get to take out my costume around you're

871
00:49:04,520 --> 00:49:08,400
Speaker 1: talking about your wife. Yeah, and then I knock knock

872
00:49:08,520 --> 00:49:14,520
Speaker 1: on yo though. The mascot Ye shouted like glass on

873
00:49:14,640 --> 00:49:19,920
Speaker 1: the phone and it was like Halloween and all the

874
00:49:20,040 --> 00:49:27,719
Speaker 1: people opportun rest in piece rees, rest in piece, so deep,

875
00:49:27,800 --> 00:49:37,760
Speaker 1: so good, all the people opportunder Simpies a timpies besties.

876
00:49:39,560 --> 00:49:42,799
Speaker 1: What's like playing that for your wife? Oh? Man? Uh

877
00:49:44,080 --> 00:49:50,120
Speaker 1: awesome because she's so numb. You know, love songs in

878
00:49:50,239 --> 00:49:53,279
Speaker 1: twelve years, three or four pub deals, you write a

879
00:49:53,480 --> 00:49:56,640
Speaker 1: ton of love songs and you just you come home

880
00:49:56,719 --> 00:49:58,680
Speaker 1: and you're like, did I get you? Did it? Did

881
00:49:58,760 --> 00:50:02,160
Speaker 1: this one get you? And? Uh? None? None of them?

882
00:50:02,600 --> 00:50:05,680
Speaker 1: You know. God, her like this one because we dated

883
00:50:05,719 --> 00:50:09,399
Speaker 1: in high school and she knew that's what she meant

884
00:50:09,440 --> 00:50:12,560
Speaker 1: to me immediately, you know, right off the bat, I

885
00:50:12,719 --> 00:50:15,440
Speaker 1: was a real insecure kid trying to fit in andmobile,

886
00:50:15,920 --> 00:50:19,400
Speaker 1: and then I met her and she just saw the

887
00:50:19,560 --> 00:50:21,440
Speaker 1: side of me that she really fell in love with.

888
00:50:21,680 --> 00:50:24,640
Speaker 1: And um, that's yeah, one of her favorite songs for sure.

889
00:50:25,200 --> 00:50:27,640
Speaker 1: We talking about this sleep number for a second. Did

890
00:50:27,680 --> 00:50:30,120
Speaker 1: you look at my room we walked by that I

891
00:50:30,239 --> 00:50:32,720
Speaker 1: wanted to, but I want to. I'm glad you didn't.

892
00:50:33,239 --> 00:50:35,279
Speaker 1: I gotta sleep number bed and less some time of year,

893
00:50:35,360 --> 00:50:37,359
Speaker 1: maybe tempted once again to go to the same old

894
00:50:37,400 --> 00:50:39,120
Speaker 1: mattress store and start to the same old bed just

895
00:50:39,200 --> 00:50:40,840
Speaker 1: because it's on sale. But let me tell you right now,

896
00:50:41,120 --> 00:50:44,160
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897
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898
00:50:45,960 --> 00:50:47,680
Speaker 1: You look at the screen and it tells you, like

899
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Speaker 1: what your number is. My number is a thirty. The

900
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901
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902
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907
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Speaker 1: a thirty. I think my huge scores in the nineties.

909
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Speaker 1: Last night never been a better time to visit a

910
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Speaker 1: Sleep Number store. You can and say fifty on a

911
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Speaker 1: limited edition bed during the Sleep Number events that are

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913
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914
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Speaker 1: nationwide and you can find one nearest you by calling

915
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Speaker 1: eight hundred next to bed and say you heard it

916
00:51:31,800 --> 00:51:33,800
Speaker 1: here on the Bobby Bones Show Bobby Cast and so

917
00:51:33,960 --> 00:51:36,640
Speaker 1: that's there and there, that's good. I like listen. I

918
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:38,760
Speaker 1: like having sponsors because that's how you people are listening

919
00:51:38,800 --> 00:51:41,920
Speaker 1: to the we we started this thing. I mean think

920
00:51:41,920 --> 00:51:44,920
Speaker 1: aboudy even gonna listen like Mike d and I this

921
00:51:45,120 --> 00:51:47,960
Speaker 1: is no this is our equipment, like, this is just

922
00:51:48,000 --> 00:51:50,360
Speaker 1: stuff that we wrangled up. And we started doing this

923
00:51:50,520 --> 00:51:53,520
Speaker 1: little podcast and we were talking to people like, for example,

924
00:51:53,600 --> 00:51:55,080
Speaker 1: kit Lyn, one of the first ones who's on your

925
00:51:55,239 --> 00:51:57,000
Speaker 1: it's just your Caitlin. Right now. I was like, hey,

926
00:51:57,080 --> 00:51:58,680
Speaker 1: like come over to the house because I'm gonna do

927
00:51:58,719 --> 00:52:01,400
Speaker 1: this thing. I'm gonna talk to artists, talk songwriters. And

928
00:52:01,480 --> 00:52:03,960
Speaker 1: then now we got to sleep number sponsor and this thing.

929
00:52:04,440 --> 00:52:07,160
Speaker 1: But so uh yeah, it's cool. It's cool. It's like,

930
00:52:07,680 --> 00:52:09,479
Speaker 1: let me ask you this. You put all your stuff

931
00:52:09,480 --> 00:52:13,239
Speaker 1: out for free. At first, well, who thought of that?

932
00:52:13,480 --> 00:52:15,759
Speaker 1: Why was that the plan? So that was thought of

933
00:52:16,040 --> 00:52:20,960
Speaker 1: by my manager, Rob Robert Carlton, and he's kind of

934
00:52:21,000 --> 00:52:24,200
Speaker 1: famous now, but he, uh, you know, he heard my

935
00:52:24,320 --> 00:52:27,040
Speaker 1: stuff and like we were talking earlier, he heard those

936
00:52:27,080 --> 00:52:29,680
Speaker 1: songs that I was building in the shack and he said,

937
00:52:29,719 --> 00:52:33,640
Speaker 1: you know, he ain't gonna fit country radio right now,

938
00:52:33,760 --> 00:52:36,839
Speaker 1: but these will build a fan base. People will share these,

939
00:52:36,920 --> 00:52:39,440
Speaker 1: they will love them, they will connect to them. And

940
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,080
Speaker 1: so that's what we did. We just started putting them out,

941
00:52:42,400 --> 00:52:44,840
Speaker 1: started touring a little bit, got a couple of opening

942
00:52:44,920 --> 00:52:48,640
Speaker 1: slots you know last year, and places to go play them,

943
00:52:49,000 --> 00:52:51,640
Speaker 1: got the loop, started learning how to do that because

944
00:52:51,840 --> 00:52:54,239
Speaker 1: just wanted them to sound as close as I could

945
00:52:54,320 --> 00:52:57,440
Speaker 1: do these tracks, and that's why we started putting out

946
00:52:57,560 --> 00:53:00,239
Speaker 1: free music. And it was so exhilarating. It was so

947
00:53:00,360 --> 00:53:02,959
Speaker 1: therapeutic for me. It obviously made me a better writer.

948
00:53:03,239 --> 00:53:05,200
Speaker 1: I feel like they just keep getting better and better.

949
00:53:05,239 --> 00:53:07,520
Speaker 1: I'm already working on number three. I don't know where

950
00:53:07,560 --> 00:53:11,200
Speaker 1: that lives, you know, as far as label stuff goes,

951
00:53:11,360 --> 00:53:14,520
Speaker 1: but they will let me continue the eight tracks and

952
00:53:14,840 --> 00:53:19,279
Speaker 1: so I'm excited about those. They'll just keep coming for me.

953
00:53:19,520 --> 00:53:22,279
Speaker 1: I'm a huge fan of you and the music that

954
00:53:22,320 --> 00:53:25,960
Speaker 1: you write, and yeah, welcome, shut up. I became a

955
00:53:26,080 --> 00:53:28,200
Speaker 1: huge fan way early, like I was obsessed with it

956
00:53:28,560 --> 00:53:30,120
Speaker 1: and I would say on the radio, It's like, what's

957
00:53:30,120 --> 00:53:32,000
Speaker 1: the biggest albums a year? And I'd be like, you

958
00:53:32,040 --> 00:53:34,239
Speaker 1: know I played record from Urban a lot Maren and

959
00:53:34,360 --> 00:53:36,880
Speaker 1: Walker Hays and I was now and I would mean

960
00:53:36,920 --> 00:53:39,799
Speaker 1: it from the bottom of my heart. And it wasn't

961
00:53:39,800 --> 00:53:41,239
Speaker 1: like you and I were talking every day. We were

962
00:53:41,320 --> 00:53:42,680
Speaker 1: I don't even know if we were talking. We were

963
00:53:43,000 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 1: maybe exchange the text occasionally. But I was just a fan.

964
00:53:46,440 --> 00:53:48,960
Speaker 1: Like I was just a fan because I love people

965
00:53:49,000 --> 00:53:51,440
Speaker 1: who try things that aren't the same, even if they

966
00:53:51,480 --> 00:53:53,359
Speaker 1: fall in their face, Like I love people that take

967
00:53:53,440 --> 00:53:59,000
Speaker 1: shots falling forward, it's still it's still moving forward. And

968
00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,959
Speaker 1: so one I like the music and too, I enjoy

969
00:54:02,040 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 1: the fact that you were trying something new, and so

970
00:54:05,120 --> 00:54:07,080
Speaker 1: I would say that stuff like magazine to do interviews

971
00:54:07,080 --> 00:54:09,240
Speaker 1: like what you let's do most. I love Dirk's album,

972
00:54:09,440 --> 00:54:11,120
Speaker 1: I love the Walker Hayes's album like it was just

973
00:54:11,320 --> 00:54:13,239
Speaker 1: that's just because it was a like, what's the most

974
00:54:13,480 --> 00:54:16,880
Speaker 1: thing that you're playing, I'll tell And so something that

975
00:54:16,880 --> 00:54:19,000
Speaker 1: shook me a bit. And I'm jaded and the first

976
00:54:19,040 --> 00:54:21,800
Speaker 1: to admit it because I've been doing this now and

977
00:54:22,080 --> 00:54:25,120
Speaker 1: just in this capacity for four years and I've had

978
00:54:25,160 --> 00:54:27,680
Speaker 1: Garth Brooks sit beside me right and play, and I've

979
00:54:27,760 --> 00:54:30,759
Speaker 1: had you name it's it's it's great, and it never

980
00:54:30,880 --> 00:54:33,440
Speaker 1: loses the fact that it's great. But when when you

981
00:54:33,520 --> 00:54:37,040
Speaker 1: eat Filet mignon every day, it becomes kind of normal.

982
00:54:38,719 --> 00:54:42,080
Speaker 1: So it's like I enjoy it and I still appreciate it,

983
00:54:43,200 --> 00:54:47,480
Speaker 1: but rarely the things shake me. Occasionally, things like really

984
00:54:47,760 --> 00:54:49,759
Speaker 1: and I'm gonna tell you. I get a message from

985
00:54:50,600 --> 00:54:53,160
Speaker 1: one of my friends, she works at my record label,

986
00:54:53,200 --> 00:54:56,560
Speaker 1: and it's Mega boardman and she says, uh, do you

987
00:54:56,640 --> 00:54:58,920
Speaker 1: hear this song called Payne Walker Hay sent on the email.

988
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:01,560
Speaker 1: I was like, no, I'm not on his email list.

989
00:55:01,719 --> 00:55:03,440
Speaker 1: I'm not anybody's email us. I didn't know he had

990
00:55:03,480 --> 00:55:05,439
Speaker 1: to email us. Like I just listened to the music

991
00:55:06,080 --> 00:55:08,520
Speaker 1: and I was like, no, she goes, you should probably

992
00:55:08,560 --> 00:55:10,960
Speaker 1: hear it, and I was like, we'll send me the email,

993
00:55:11,719 --> 00:55:14,160
Speaker 1: and so like I'm gonna tell you eyeball to eyeball,

994
00:55:14,960 --> 00:55:17,080
Speaker 1: I just sat in my car and I was like,

995
00:55:17,680 --> 00:55:19,680
Speaker 1: to have someone you're such a huge fan of like

996
00:55:19,880 --> 00:55:23,440
Speaker 1: even mention you and that song. I was like, this

997
00:55:23,760 --> 00:55:27,480
Speaker 1: is like crazy in my life. Honestly, it means the

998
00:55:27,480 --> 00:55:29,480
Speaker 1: world for you to say that, because when you put

999
00:55:29,640 --> 00:55:33,160
Speaker 1: somebody in a song, you're like they're gonna hate, Like

1000
00:55:33,360 --> 00:55:36,000
Speaker 1: is this gonna suck for them. It it was. It

1001
00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:39,000
Speaker 1: was the weirdest thing. It was a great I have

1002
00:55:39,120 --> 00:55:42,000
Speaker 1: trouble with emotion, feeling at trouble letting myself feel emotion

1003
00:55:42,040 --> 00:55:43,959
Speaker 1: because I feel like any good emotion is gonna be gone,

1004
00:55:44,760 --> 00:55:48,399
Speaker 1: and any good emotion has to be met with equal bad.

1005
00:55:48,840 --> 00:55:51,759
Speaker 1: So I try not to have good emotion like it's

1006
00:55:51,800 --> 00:55:54,640
Speaker 1: a listen, I'm nuts, right. I had great emotion from

1007
00:55:54,680 --> 00:55:58,080
Speaker 1: the song good Man, that's awesome and so and you

1008
00:55:58,160 --> 00:56:00,680
Speaker 1: can't do this. This is online, but this is pain

1009
00:56:00,800 --> 00:56:04,240
Speaker 1: from walking around. Here you go, mate, two thousand sixteen,

1010
00:56:04,360 --> 00:56:06,800
Speaker 1: seven something in the morning, I was driving when a

1011
00:56:06,880 --> 00:56:09,520
Speaker 1: dream come true came through my high the factory speakers

1012
00:56:09,560 --> 00:56:12,000
Speaker 1: and on me. Bobby Bones played a song and I

1013
00:56:12,080 --> 00:56:14,719
Speaker 1: wrote about lonely beer and a fresh It's one of

1014
00:56:14,800 --> 00:56:17,239
Speaker 1: my doctrines. What you hear is out felt from the

1015
00:56:17,360 --> 00:56:21,040
Speaker 1: broken in my heart was about addiction, love, loss and recovery.

1016
00:56:21,120 --> 00:56:23,000
Speaker 1: Trust Me only wrote it because I had to get

1017
00:56:23,040 --> 00:56:25,400
Speaker 1: it out of me, not for Nashville, not for radio,

1018
00:56:25,520 --> 00:56:28,560
Speaker 1: for nobody bought me. And maybe that trouble so pressing rewind,

1019
00:56:28,760 --> 00:56:31,760
Speaker 1: wrestling demons like mine looking for company in this design

1020
00:56:32,160 --> 00:56:37,400
Speaker 1: that doesn't really feel so grand all the time. I

1021
00:56:37,560 --> 00:56:43,799
Speaker 1: didn't feels so good, feel so grand all the time.

1022
00:56:48,520 --> 00:56:53,839
Speaker 1: I didn't know because feels so good like I get

1023
00:56:53,880 --> 00:56:57,359
Speaker 1: Jo bump now listen to. So I guess I want

1024
00:56:57,400 --> 00:56:58,960
Speaker 1: to know about it because well, I never asked you

1025
00:56:58,960 --> 00:57:00,480
Speaker 1: about the song because I was kind of embarrassed to

1026
00:57:00,520 --> 00:57:04,960
Speaker 1: do it, because it was like, yeah, I love that.

1027
00:57:05,080 --> 00:57:09,439
Speaker 1: I was embarrassed. So did you know I was gonna

1028
00:57:09,480 --> 00:57:11,480
Speaker 1: play your song that morning? Because I don't think. I

1029
00:57:11,640 --> 00:57:15,000
Speaker 1: don't tell anybody I'm gonna play their music. Well, you know,

1030
00:57:15,120 --> 00:57:19,600
Speaker 1: when we've we've talked about this, UM, I just feel weird,

1031
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:24,840
Speaker 1: you know, asking you know people to do that. You know,

1032
00:57:25,000 --> 00:57:27,440
Speaker 1: I honestly you know that that song is in that

1033
00:57:27,640 --> 00:57:32,640
Speaker 1: category of of a comedian uh leadless Starr. You know,

1034
00:57:32,720 --> 00:57:35,680
Speaker 1: nobody asked me to write about that. Um, I just

1035
00:57:35,880 --> 00:57:38,800
Speaker 1: had to, you know, it was it was a special

1036
00:57:38,960 --> 00:57:42,240
Speaker 1: moment for me. I was out in the middle of nowhere,

1037
00:57:42,680 --> 00:57:45,520
Speaker 1: um picking up Actually I had my loop worked on

1038
00:57:46,040 --> 00:57:49,440
Speaker 1: in close to Murfreysboro, So I was just driving when

1039
00:57:49,480 --> 00:57:52,760
Speaker 1: you played beer in the fridge, and man, it just

1040
00:57:53,040 --> 00:57:56,479
Speaker 1: was another one of those moments where you gotta pinch

1041
00:57:56,520 --> 00:58:00,240
Speaker 1: yourself and and I was like, I can't believe what

1042
00:58:00,480 --> 00:58:03,320
Speaker 1: is happening to me at that at this point in

1043
00:58:03,400 --> 00:58:05,840
Speaker 1: my life. You know, I got six kids I could

1044
00:58:05,880 --> 00:58:09,720
Speaker 1: barely feed, uh, you know a year ago, and now,

1045
00:58:10,840 --> 00:58:14,680
Speaker 1: uh my work tapes rocking on the radio, you know,

1046
00:58:14,760 --> 00:58:17,120
Speaker 1: and Beer in the Fridge is a naked song. I mean,

1047
00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:21,040
Speaker 1: it's the truth. There's like three things on the track. Um,

1048
00:58:21,280 --> 00:58:24,320
Speaker 1: you know, so I'm hearing Keith Urban blow it up

1049
00:58:24,400 --> 00:58:27,240
Speaker 1: and then all of a sudden, I hear just you

1050
00:58:27,320 --> 00:58:30,120
Speaker 1: know always, And it just rocked me. Man. I mean,

1051
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:32,320
Speaker 1: you know, I don't have a lot of I have

1052
00:58:32,400 --> 00:58:34,440
Speaker 1: a lot of those moments where I like pull over

1053
00:58:34,520 --> 00:58:36,640
Speaker 1: and cry. I mean, I freaking love music and it

1054
00:58:37,200 --> 00:58:40,440
Speaker 1: it has so much emotional power over me. But I

1055
00:58:40,520 --> 00:58:44,200
Speaker 1: have never felt like I did when I listened to

1056
00:58:44,280 --> 00:58:47,479
Speaker 1: that song. Uh. And so I had to write about

1057
00:58:47,560 --> 00:58:50,520
Speaker 1: that moment and everything that it made me think of,

1058
00:58:50,960 --> 00:58:55,880
Speaker 1: you know, how far my life had changed pretty quick,

1059
00:58:56,640 --> 00:58:59,400
Speaker 1: you know, And so I just blurted it all out

1060
00:59:00,040 --> 00:59:02,080
Speaker 1: in that song. And you were obviously a part of

1061
00:59:02,160 --> 00:59:07,440
Speaker 1: that story. Um. So thanks. It was a great business.

1062
00:59:07,920 --> 00:59:11,720
Speaker 1: But honestly, like you said, I mean, I gotta tell you,

1063
00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,200
Speaker 1: there were moments where I was like, I don't know

1064
00:59:14,240 --> 00:59:17,320
Speaker 1: if I want to release it. Like I was also like,

1065
00:59:17,560 --> 00:59:20,080
Speaker 1: do I just put like a DJ. I didn't know

1066
00:59:20,160 --> 00:59:23,280
Speaker 1: whether whether you would appreciate having your name in it

1067
00:59:23,560 --> 00:59:26,440
Speaker 1: or I was like, he's gonna think this is just

1068
00:59:26,680 --> 00:59:29,800
Speaker 1: a business move. But honestly, I've rent you know, we're

1069
00:59:29,880 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 1: running by my team as I was creating the song,

1070
00:59:32,360 --> 00:59:35,200
Speaker 1: and they were like, man, you mentioned Mike, that guy

1071
00:59:35,280 --> 00:59:37,440
Speaker 1: you worked with a Costco. You mentioned your wife and

1072
00:59:37,520 --> 00:59:39,600
Speaker 1: your kid, and you you know the the song is

1073
00:59:39,840 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: honest about every detail. There's not one I've always We've

1074
00:59:43,840 --> 00:59:46,240
Speaker 1: always laughed because I'm like, somebody's gonna ask about that

1075
00:59:46,360 --> 00:59:49,200
Speaker 1: song and be like can you can you tell me

1076
00:59:49,240 --> 00:59:52,320
Speaker 1: about it? And I'm just gonna be like, well, two

1077
00:59:52,360 --> 00:59:55,440
Speaker 1: thousand and sixteen, so you know, just I'm gonna recite

1078
00:59:55,480 --> 00:59:58,720
Speaker 1: this song because there's really nothing else to say. It's

1079
00:59:58,760 --> 01:00:03,120
Speaker 1: just the on truth down to the Costco card in

1080
01:00:03,240 --> 01:00:06,120
Speaker 1: the freaking console. I believe you too, because one you

1081
01:00:06,160 --> 01:00:09,000
Speaker 1: didn't put it out like out out. Yeah, you sit

1082
01:00:09,040 --> 01:00:11,280
Speaker 1: down an email, it's still up there for you can't

1083
01:00:11,280 --> 01:00:14,560
Speaker 1: even like stream it. Yeah, you gotta get us nowhere,

1084
01:00:14,680 --> 01:00:16,280
Speaker 1: and you know, and I hope you eventually if you

1085
01:00:16,320 --> 01:00:18,360
Speaker 1: put it up, it's all good. And I don't believe

1086
01:00:18,400 --> 01:00:21,080
Speaker 1: anybody at any time for any reason. I believe you

1087
01:00:21,640 --> 01:00:23,479
Speaker 1: because I just I don't believe you. I don't believe

1088
01:00:23,480 --> 01:00:26,520
Speaker 1: anybody like you. Know how it is around here. Yeah,

1089
01:00:27,160 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: when times are good, everybody's your friend. And when times

1090
01:00:31,800 --> 01:00:34,200
Speaker 1: aren't good, and no I want anything to do with you.

1091
01:00:35,320 --> 01:00:38,920
Speaker 1: And I do know that, man, And that's that's that's

1092
01:00:38,960 --> 01:00:41,160
Speaker 1: the nature of this beast. And so you got to

1093
01:00:41,200 --> 01:00:43,400
Speaker 1: find the people. And this isn't just our business, this

1094
01:00:43,560 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: is like a life thing. You have to find the

1095
01:00:45,720 --> 01:00:49,240
Speaker 1: people that when times are on that stock market downtick,

1096
01:00:49,400 --> 01:00:51,520
Speaker 1: that are right by your side, and you keep them

1097
01:00:51,560 --> 01:00:53,480
Speaker 1: by your side when that stock market goes back up

1098
01:00:53,960 --> 01:00:56,480
Speaker 1: because it's gonna go back down again. And so those

1099
01:00:56,520 --> 01:00:58,360
Speaker 1: are the people just ride, they just ride, Let them

1100
01:00:58,480 --> 01:01:00,600
Speaker 1: ride with you, and you ride with them. And that's

1101
01:01:00,640 --> 01:01:03,080
Speaker 1: how you find the people, like the people that are

1102
01:01:03,120 --> 01:01:05,760
Speaker 1: with you when it's down, or the people that you

1103
01:01:05,920 --> 01:01:11,800
Speaker 1: just keep on surrounding yourself. Right, And there's like a

1104
01:01:11,920 --> 01:01:17,840
Speaker 1: few and that's it. I know. We had this whole

1105
01:01:17,840 --> 01:01:21,600
Speaker 1: conversation like off Mike days ago. But yeah, yeah, it's weird.

1106
01:01:21,640 --> 01:01:23,040
Speaker 1: It's been cool. It's been cool getting to know you

1107
01:01:23,760 --> 01:01:26,200
Speaker 1: because again, I'm just a huge fan and that's why

1108
01:01:26,240 --> 01:01:27,720
Speaker 1: I went. And I was like, because I was doing

1109
01:01:27,760 --> 01:01:31,080
Speaker 1: this whole stand up comedy tour and you know, I

1110
01:01:31,160 --> 01:01:33,080
Speaker 1: can ask whoever I want to open. And I was like, man,

1111
01:01:33,120 --> 01:01:35,439
Speaker 1: I would love to freaking Walker Hayes come out because

1112
01:01:35,440 --> 01:01:37,000
Speaker 1: I just want to watch a blay like no other reason,

1113
01:01:37,120 --> 01:01:40,240
Speaker 1: Like I just want Walker to come out. And then

1114
01:01:40,360 --> 01:01:42,840
Speaker 1: in the middle of all this to see like you popping,

1115
01:01:43,560 --> 01:01:47,960
Speaker 1: like just popping. Is it now where you're starting to

1116
01:01:48,040 --> 01:01:50,560
Speaker 1: be cool and people are now coming out going, hey,

1117
01:01:50,600 --> 01:01:53,680
Speaker 1: cool guy, you want to work together? Oh yeah, I

1118
01:01:53,760 --> 01:01:57,640
Speaker 1: bet that happens. And you know what, that's okay because

1119
01:01:57,720 --> 01:01:59,280
Speaker 1: you're gonna trust as far as you can throw them,

1120
01:01:59,320 --> 01:02:01,600
Speaker 1: but you can still use each other for for whatever

1121
01:02:01,680 --> 01:02:07,000
Speaker 1: advantage you're working together. Yeah, and that's you know, I'm

1122
01:02:07,080 --> 01:02:10,880
Speaker 1: ashamed to say this, but I'm sure I've done that

1123
01:02:11,000 --> 01:02:13,160
Speaker 1: to some money in this town, you know, And I

1124
01:02:13,280 --> 01:02:15,800
Speaker 1: try to remember that that we're all capable of that.

1125
01:02:16,760 --> 01:02:19,160
Speaker 1: And um, but yeah, I mean a lot of people

1126
01:02:19,840 --> 01:02:24,280
Speaker 1: are definitely coming out of the woodwork. Um, and that's tough.

1127
01:02:24,400 --> 01:02:27,040
Speaker 1: You know, sometimes it's tough to accept that you need

1128
01:02:27,160 --> 01:02:28,880
Speaker 1: the people coming out of the woodwork, though it is

1129
01:02:28,920 --> 01:02:32,800
Speaker 1: the thing exactly you need them. It's just used them

1130
01:02:32,840 --> 01:02:35,280
Speaker 1: for what they're there to be used for. Yeah that

1131
01:02:35,800 --> 01:02:39,280
Speaker 1: they're not the people that are completely down, but they're

1132
01:02:39,280 --> 01:02:40,560
Speaker 1: down for what you need them for, and you're down

1133
01:02:40,600 --> 01:02:43,520
Speaker 1: for what you need them for. Just remember I didn't

1134
01:02:43,520 --> 01:02:46,440
Speaker 1: come out of the woodwork. Was where I was like,

1135
01:02:46,600 --> 01:02:48,520
Speaker 1: I was like hiding in the woods. I was waiting,

1136
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:51,440
Speaker 1: like I was up in a tree looking down. I

1137
01:02:51,520 --> 01:02:54,160
Speaker 1: was like, you see Walker, Oh man, it's been good.

1138
01:02:54,200 --> 01:02:57,320
Speaker 1: I hope you enjoyed like hanging and talking. No, I did, man,

1139
01:02:57,480 --> 01:02:59,720
Speaker 1: Thank thanks for having me for like I've been on

1140
01:03:00,040 --> 01:03:03,560
Speaker 1: out like it's therapeutic. Here's a little something. This is

1141
01:03:03,600 --> 01:03:05,560
Speaker 1: called Walker singing to the Duggers. Would you like to

1142
01:03:05,720 --> 01:03:08,800
Speaker 1: talk to us? Oh my gosh, singing to the Duggers?

1143
01:03:09,720 --> 01:03:12,160
Speaker 1: You told me from the show. You tell me what

1144
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:16,040
Speaker 1: this is? Hey, how's it going? You guys like music?

1145
01:03:16,400 --> 01:03:20,520
Speaker 1: No way? You got a second? You have the episode? Yeah,

1146
01:03:20,600 --> 01:03:23,440
Speaker 1: so go ahead and tell me before I play what exactly? Okay,

1147
01:03:23,560 --> 01:03:27,160
Speaker 1: So this is uh s is when Derek and Jill

1148
01:03:27,440 --> 01:03:30,320
Speaker 1: I think is her name, got engaged and how did

1149
01:03:30,360 --> 01:03:33,080
Speaker 1: you end up on this show? Okay, so there The

1150
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,440
Speaker 1: producer of the show lives near me and called me

1151
01:03:36,520 --> 01:03:38,720
Speaker 1: one day on the porch. He didn't hear yeah, you

1152
01:03:38,800 --> 01:03:41,320
Speaker 1: heard me on the back porch. Now he actually, man,

1153
01:03:41,440 --> 01:03:44,080
Speaker 1: He was just like, we're thinking about doing this segment.

1154
01:03:44,200 --> 01:03:47,640
Speaker 1: If you can give us a song, I can convince

1155
01:03:47,760 --> 01:03:50,880
Speaker 1: the network that they need to do this. And I say, man,

1156
01:03:50,960 --> 01:03:53,120
Speaker 1: tell me about their love story. He was like, it's

1157
01:03:53,160 --> 01:03:55,120
Speaker 1: really cool. They went all the way to Catman Do,

1158
01:03:55,320 --> 01:03:57,720
Speaker 1: but they lived, you know, super close, but went all

1159
01:03:57,800 --> 01:04:00,200
Speaker 1: the way to another country and met each other there.

1160
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,960
Speaker 1: So I just wrote this song and uh, he was like, boom,

1161
01:04:04,160 --> 01:04:09,439
Speaker 1: that's perfect for their uh engagement. Here we go. Hey guys, Hey,

1162
01:04:09,680 --> 01:04:13,880
Speaker 1: how's it going. You guys like music? You got a second?

1163
01:04:14,000 --> 01:04:19,120
Speaker 1: I got a song that reminded me music. Hey, that'd

1164
01:04:19,160 --> 01:04:27,960
Speaker 1: be great. Will you go up about thirty show minutes

1165
01:04:28,080 --> 01:04:32,120
Speaker 1: down the street. But we had to go eight thousand

1166
01:04:32,320 --> 01:04:37,200
Speaker 1: miles away to meet I'm not sure the Lord was

1167
01:04:37,320 --> 01:04:40,280
Speaker 1: thinking taking us all the way to cat Man Do,

1168
01:04:41,120 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 1: but I know he was thinking of me when he

1169
01:04:44,120 --> 01:04:47,240
Speaker 1: made you so and as beautiful as that is, the

1170
01:04:47,320 --> 01:04:51,760
Speaker 1: acting is, first of all, has anyone ever in the

1171
01:04:51,920 --> 01:04:56,040
Speaker 1: history of questions answered the word no till you do? Like, Hey,

1172
01:04:56,120 --> 01:04:59,240
Speaker 1: do you like music? It's a safe question. Nah, not really?

1173
01:04:59,720 --> 01:05:05,040
Speaker 1: All right, man, Hey do you like food? No? And

1174
01:05:05,120 --> 01:05:08,560
Speaker 1: they just listen to the acting here, Uh yeah, what's up?

1175
01:05:10,080 --> 01:05:12,960
Speaker 1: Even the Hey guys, it's pretty bad. You're just like

1176
01:05:13,080 --> 01:05:19,360
Speaker 1: sitting in Hey guys. Hey, how's it going? God? This

1177
01:05:19,440 --> 01:05:24,440
Speaker 1: is awful. They acted, nobody wrote a script. I remember

1178
01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:27,040
Speaker 1: meeting with him and I talked to him because he

1179
01:05:27,160 --> 01:05:31,560
Speaker 1: knew he was in on it. I would hope. Yeah, man,

1180
01:05:31,640 --> 01:05:34,200
Speaker 1: we botched it big tim But she was still, Hey,

1181
01:05:34,360 --> 01:05:38,720
Speaker 1: how's it going. You guys like music? She's like, yeah,

1182
01:05:38,960 --> 01:05:42,320
Speaker 1: I do, Yeah, I do. How lucky because of all

1183
01:05:42,360 --> 01:05:44,600
Speaker 1: the people in the world, they both liked music, and

1184
01:05:44,720 --> 01:05:49,200
Speaker 1: you're lucky that they both did. Man, it was a dude.

1185
01:05:49,240 --> 01:05:54,520
Speaker 1: I'm no, I'm no actor. Come on, hey man, it's uh.

1186
01:05:55,640 --> 01:05:58,000
Speaker 1: And I haven't been written a song about your whole life? Yeah,

1187
01:05:58,120 --> 01:05:59,480
Speaker 1: do you have a second to stop for me? While

1188
01:05:59,480 --> 01:06:00,840
Speaker 1: I played this? Who long I read about your life?

1189
01:06:00,920 --> 01:06:02,600
Speaker 1: This is totally random. By the way, do you like music?

1190
01:06:04,680 --> 01:06:09,120
Speaker 1: I've I'm actually auditioned for some stuff and failed big time.

1191
01:06:09,120 --> 01:06:13,400
Speaker 1: I mean, acting is talk about putting your guard down.

1192
01:06:13,440 --> 01:06:15,480
Speaker 1: I mean that's a scary thing, kind of like your

1193
01:06:15,520 --> 01:06:18,760
Speaker 1: comedy thing. We were talking about before we went out.

1194
01:06:18,840 --> 01:06:21,280
Speaker 1: I was asking you if you're a friend. It's all vulnerable.

1195
01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,520
Speaker 1: It's all vulnerable. Music, vulnerable, comedy, vulnerable acting, it's all.

1196
01:06:24,720 --> 01:06:29,760
Speaker 1: If you're creative, you are vulnerable because people are choosing

1197
01:06:30,080 --> 01:06:32,720
Speaker 1: if they like or don't like what you're doing, and

1198
01:06:32,840 --> 01:06:36,640
Speaker 1: you need them to do that. That's vulnerable. You need

1199
01:06:36,800 --> 01:06:39,760
Speaker 1: someone to like or not like you. Hopefully they like you.

1200
01:06:40,560 --> 01:06:43,880
Speaker 1: But you don't create, so people don't care. You create

1201
01:06:43,960 --> 01:06:46,640
Speaker 1: so hopefully people care, and then when they don't, you

1202
01:06:46,680 --> 01:06:49,400
Speaker 1: realize I didn't create good enough or or at the time,

1203
01:06:49,760 --> 01:06:53,040
Speaker 1: I didn't create good enough. So just as you get

1204
01:06:53,120 --> 01:06:56,680
Speaker 1: up and you sing songs about your life, they are

1205
01:06:56,720 --> 01:06:58,360
Speaker 1: very vulnerable. I get up and I tell stories, and

1206
01:06:58,800 --> 01:07:01,320
Speaker 1: the entire light, the entire him is focused on my mouth. Hoole,

1207
01:07:01,360 --> 01:07:04,040
Speaker 1: And that's it. But I mean, really that's it. But

1208
01:07:04,560 --> 01:07:06,200
Speaker 1: I thrive off that the same way that you've been

1209
01:07:06,240 --> 01:07:09,920
Speaker 1: writing music. I thrive off of just and again it

1210
01:07:09,960 --> 01:07:12,400
Speaker 1: comes back to just being like needing that love too,

1211
01:07:13,000 --> 01:07:16,200
Speaker 1: like that that's that's finding love for me, I go out.

1212
01:07:16,280 --> 01:07:19,120
Speaker 1: I need that. I need that love, so I fight

1213
01:07:19,200 --> 01:07:24,280
Speaker 1: for it. Have terrible relationships, God terrible. I want to

1214
01:07:24,320 --> 01:07:28,440
Speaker 1: talk about it. No, I don't think so it's not

1215
01:07:29,120 --> 01:07:31,920
Speaker 1: it's not in the moment, not right now. This is

1216
01:07:32,400 --> 01:07:33,800
Speaker 1: this is not a Bob. This is not a Bobby.

1217
01:07:33,840 --> 01:07:38,000
Speaker 1: Bobby casts a Walker podcast. All right, So download you

1218
01:07:38,080 --> 01:07:39,320
Speaker 1: broke up with me? That's the only saw him that

1219
01:07:39,320 --> 01:07:47,000
Speaker 1: you can download. Right, Yeah, we need to do nobody

1220
01:07:47,080 --> 01:07:56,320
Speaker 1: making you watch. It's good. I know it's difficult to

1221
01:07:56,480 --> 01:08:02,320
Speaker 1: see me, but hey, you broke up with me. It

1222
01:08:02,480 --> 01:08:07,920
Speaker 1: was you broke up. So Walker, depending on when you

1223
01:08:07,960 --> 01:08:09,120
Speaker 1: hear this, will be out on the road with me

1224
01:08:09,200 --> 01:08:14,720
Speaker 1: until May. Walker Hayes dot com website to um whenever.

1225
01:08:14,920 --> 01:08:17,560
Speaker 1: What's Fun is on on tour Nikita Car when it

1226
01:08:17,560 --> 01:08:20,479
Speaker 1: comes out and sings Halloween with you? Is it? Like

1227
01:08:20,680 --> 01:08:23,200
Speaker 1: she's so good, right, and like nobody even knows about

1228
01:08:23,200 --> 01:08:27,000
Speaker 1: her really yet that's weird to me. She's so because

1229
01:08:27,040 --> 01:08:31,000
Speaker 1: she's so good. But they're going to you know, and

1230
01:08:31,040 --> 01:08:33,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna pull her once and you know she I

1231
01:08:33,400 --> 01:08:35,120
Speaker 1: just met her on Skype and was like, you gotta

1232
01:08:35,160 --> 01:08:37,599
Speaker 1: move to the States. Oh really? Oh yeah, I didn't

1233
01:08:37,600 --> 01:08:39,479
Speaker 1: know that. I didn't know your story and I don't

1234
01:08:39,479 --> 01:08:42,160
Speaker 1: know oh yeah, yeah. We were just looking for someone,

1235
01:08:42,240 --> 01:08:43,760
Speaker 1: like I needed a girl in the band so I

1236
01:08:43,800 --> 01:08:46,519
Speaker 1: could like write funny stuff from a girl perspective, raise

1237
01:08:46,560 --> 01:08:50,360
Speaker 1: ball women. And so I went through and I didn't

1238
01:08:50,360 --> 01:08:52,800
Speaker 1: You couldn't find anybody. So I gave up and friend

1239
01:08:52,880 --> 01:08:54,520
Speaker 1: was like, hey you should. There's just go in Australia.

1240
01:08:54,600 --> 01:08:56,400
Speaker 1: She's not trying to get to the States and be

1241
01:08:56,520 --> 01:08:58,240
Speaker 1: a singer song right over here, but she plays some

1242
01:08:58,320 --> 01:09:01,160
Speaker 1: pubs and I was like okay. So I skyped with

1243
01:09:01,280 --> 01:09:03,960
Speaker 1: her and things like ten am. I was like, hey,

1244
01:09:04,000 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: can you hear your guitar in the office, and she

1245
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,800
Speaker 1: wouldn't got her guitar. Skyped with like an hour later

1246
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:10,080
Speaker 1: and she played on skype. That's the only time I

1247
01:09:10,120 --> 01:09:13,360
Speaker 1: ever said, ever seen and I was like, oh my god, yeah,

1248
01:09:13,720 --> 01:09:16,519
Speaker 1: you're you're so good. She's like, oh, I didn't known

1249
01:09:16,560 --> 01:09:18,960
Speaker 1: about that. And I was like, can you get on

1250
01:09:19,040 --> 01:09:21,720
Speaker 1: a plane in the year in three days? And she

1251
01:09:21,800 --> 01:09:24,040
Speaker 1: got on a plane quarter job, moved here. I didn't

1252
01:09:24,040 --> 01:09:25,240
Speaker 1: have any murder live. She lived with me for like

1253
01:09:25,320 --> 01:09:27,680
Speaker 1: two and a half months or so and so, and

1254
01:09:27,760 --> 01:09:30,240
Speaker 1: I was just like you just just right right. She's

1255
01:09:30,280 --> 01:09:32,519
Speaker 1: just writing. She got a publishing deal. She you know,

1256
01:09:32,760 --> 01:09:38,360
Speaker 1: you know, but she's so good. Yeah, and people will

1257
01:09:38,400 --> 01:09:43,080
Speaker 1: find her. I wonder if I every day let me

1258
01:09:45,560 --> 01:09:51,240
Speaker 1: talking dude with me. She's sick. She uh yeah, she's

1259
01:09:51,280 --> 01:09:53,960
Speaker 1: like two ft tall. Here we go, Nikita Karmen. This

1260
01:09:54,080 --> 01:10:04,439
Speaker 1: is the first a place with this m m M.

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Speaker 1: I didn't cry when he said I'm not the one

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Speaker 1: because I ain't want to come undone. I hear my

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Speaker 1: head up high and bit my tongue. Let the goodbye

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Speaker 1: setting like us couldn't stop thinking about two of us,

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Speaker 1: and heartbreaks hard to rise above. I'll take the high

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Speaker 1: road and I'll keep my cool. Pretty soon won't be

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Speaker 1: thinking about you. First, I me tell my friend, she's

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01:10:35,840 --> 01:10:38,599
Speaker 1: not that pretty. You don't look how for s happy

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Speaker 1: as you do with me. She's wearing that trendy Tom

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Speaker 1: Petty t shirt. Stop being petty by your American girl.

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Speaker 1: The first time he was my week's wage one Guila

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Speaker 1: cursening a lipstick on the bathroom mirror, and damn gonna

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Speaker 1: wake up, gonna feel just fine. I just gotta go

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Speaker 1: a little out of my mind. First. I guys say

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Speaker 1: like I know you you talk about she like calls

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Speaker 1: that a EP or she's just like those are all

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Speaker 1: worked tape. I'm gonna tell you something. I believe if

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Speaker 1: you were to do that whole play a thing, that

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01:11:12,640 --> 01:11:16,439
Speaker 1: joker would jump off the charge. I mean that song

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Speaker 1: reminds me of like something Lord the royal personal person.

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Speaker 1: You know what I'm saying. No, she's legitimately like fantastic.

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Speaker 1: I'm looking over here. It's like other artists you may

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Speaker 1: know if it's her, Ready for the list, Walk ahead,

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Speaker 1: Lindsay l my my girlfriend, Slash, our roommate now Brandon Ray,

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Speaker 1: who is like they're one of the greatest, and like

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Speaker 1: that's another you can sing his brains off. The raging idiots,

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Speaker 1: Caitlyn Smith, Natalie Himby, that's her people you may know. Yeah, Walker,

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Speaker 1: good luck, man, dude, thank you. I need it. I'm

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Speaker 1: enjoying this. I appreciate you have. I mean, man, this

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01:11:56,760 --> 01:11:59,040
Speaker 1: is awesome. Relaxing the chair, it is I don't want

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Speaker 1: to get up. He walked in the house and like

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Speaker 1: this is where you live. You know what, though, seriously,

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01:12:03,520 --> 01:12:06,320
Speaker 1: you need to let somebody do a Bobby cast on you.

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01:12:06,680 --> 01:12:08,360
Speaker 1: I do every morning. It told the Boby Bunt show.

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Speaker 1: But you need some I wrote a book. You need

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Speaker 1: someone asked no questions about uh personal stuff like Amy

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Speaker 1: kind of did a bit, right, A mean, yeah, we

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Speaker 1: don't with Amy and she did a bit. But I

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Speaker 1: wrote a book. Good. I'm good on yeah, second one.

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Speaker 1: I've talked about that maybe yeah, but yeah, it's good.

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Speaker 1: If life's good for me. I'm the thing about me.

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Speaker 1: It's about Walker. I'm a huge fan, like die hard fan,

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01:12:31,720 --> 01:12:34,639
Speaker 1: like as legitimately as possible. And I kept you from

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01:12:34,680 --> 01:12:36,600
Speaker 1: this for a while because it was like everybody was like,

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01:12:36,640 --> 01:12:38,679
Speaker 1: all right enough for Walker ahead talking about Walker Hayes,

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Speaker 1: like you just wait. I have a tweet that I

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Speaker 1: say from like seven months ago that was like in

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Speaker 1: a year. But it's gonna be like, why did I

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01:12:44,680 --> 01:12:47,840
Speaker 1: sleep on Walker Hays. I save that tweet. I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: show everybody one day and be like I told you

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Speaker 1: good to see you man. Thanks. All right, Walker Hays

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Speaker 1: download anything he puts out, I demand it. Alright, good, alright, Mike,

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Speaker 1: we're out. What episode was that thirty six? All right,

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Speaker 1: Walker Hayes at Walker Hayes right dot com. H A

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Speaker 1: y E s walk from me on the Instagram. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: At Walker Hayes on Instagram and Twitter at walkers dot com.

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Speaker 1: He's out with me doing all the music and I

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Speaker 1: do with the jokes until may have you announced the

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Speaker 1: other thing? Ye don't know, okay, So then in mind

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Speaker 1: other stuff coming down, other stuff coming for us. All right,

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Speaker 1: we'll see you, uh siting, Bye, buddy. You can hearly

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Speaker 1: keep a still sing in the back up forgot to

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Speaker 1: turn her part down anyway, by it