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Speaker 5: In case y'all don't know, we got one of the
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Speaker 5: brother gonna be all right. He is a person that
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Speaker 5: the motherfucker. Now, I heard you say somewhere that you
Speaker 5: brung FINDI back.
Speaker 6: Well the print, the print print, because this is part
Speaker 6: that's crazy.
Speaker 5: Right, Okay, because I'm bringing dou rags back. I feel
Speaker 5: like I'm I know, I know you've been trying to
Speaker 5: claim that.
Speaker 2: Back. You know what I'm saying. Ahead ahead, Because a.
Speaker 6: Lot of the big brands, right, they be having sometimes
Speaker 6: they go through phases. With my opinion, they be having
Speaker 6: like whack designers and Ship. So I don't know who
Speaker 6: was design Infendy for a couple of years, but they
Speaker 6: wasn't making the f prints, okay. And I was always
Speaker 6: a fan of that, okay. And I'm also a fan
Speaker 6: of like Vince Ship. I'd be like on my nineties
Speaker 6: two thousands looking for certain type of pieces. So there
Speaker 6: was like a period between like twenty and fifteen to
Speaker 6: like twenty and seventeen while I was literally just scouring
Speaker 6: the fucking world looking for different vintage Fendy pieces all
Speaker 6: over the place. I guess somebody has that. I offer
Speaker 6: them money, like, yo, can I buy that off for you?
Speaker 6: And I'm buying these pieces because they were not selling
Speaker 6: the zuka It's called a suka. They weren't selling the
Speaker 6: shit in the stall. You could not go nowhere and
Speaker 6: buy the shit in the store. So I'm finding pieces
Speaker 6: all over the world and I'm wearing it, wearing it,
Speaker 6: wearing it like Yale too, straight to the point where
Speaker 6: I started a bus just oh, mister findy man, all
Speaker 6: this ship like that there was People were referring to
Speaker 6: me as I'm wearing this ship all the time. So
Speaker 6: when I see other stars wearing it, actually I think
Speaker 6: I forced Finny to make the motherfucker again because I
Speaker 6: was tagging them all the time.
Speaker 2: Of Okay, I know I'm ghetto, but can I be
Speaker 2: like a box? But I could dress niggas.
Speaker 7: So I was just rocking the ship like and plus
Speaker 7: I was wearing it because I knew nobody else could ever.
Speaker 3: Wear it because it wasn't for sale. And now you
Speaker 3: said you was targeting vintage.
Speaker 2: Yeah, okay, A.
Speaker 6: Lot of pieces because they wasn't vintage. Because they wasn't
Speaker 6: you could not go in the store and bottle shit.
Speaker 6: They making ship with the eyes and all kind of
Speaker 6: ugly ship that niggas wasn't buying.
Speaker 2: I wasn't jacking none of that ship.
Speaker 5: That ship was trash years of trash.
Speaker 2: Ship was that a lot of eyes was bad.
Speaker 6: So during that time, you couldn't go in no storm
Speaker 6: by the fidy print.
Speaker 2: Fact.
Speaker 6: So I was rocking it the print like two years straight,
Speaker 6: but buying it all over the plate l A. I
Speaker 6: found a little bit of this spot. So it's like
Speaker 6: they had who who quarterback?
Speaker 2: Wasn't me?
Speaker 6: Ya couldn't not buy it to wear it, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. But I'm tagging them every day and
Speaker 6: there with like different sites that were like dedicated to
Speaker 6: mo in friendly. I'm tagging it like yo, pick me,
Speaker 6: pick me ship. So they hit you up. Nah, he's
Speaker 6: good for him.
Speaker 2: Up to hit you up. Too much money, That's all
Speaker 2: it is. That's a big fablieve I was made on
Speaker 2: his friendy fall under that and being fall into that
Speaker 2: would be a mate. No huh, it's not so. I mean,
Speaker 2: we've got people who work here right Jesus just looking
Speaker 2: at us like going to the what up? Like what
Speaker 2: are you doing?
Speaker 7: It is? It is?
Speaker 2: Okay?
Speaker 7: Yeah, yeah, long story show that they'll they'll be there'll
Speaker 7: be no check for me, okay, all credit, but I
Speaker 7: ain't do it for the credit.
Speaker 2: I just like it. This ship could be asked him
Speaker 2: what he's drinking? Can do say? We don't don't because
Speaker 2: I's see you ain't gonna lie. I see you on
Speaker 2: map hopping show.
Speaker 7: You have that one drink for like an hour straight.
Speaker 2: I was like going to hell, like so okay, so
Speaker 2: you me and you ain't get the memo?
Speaker 7: What the memo to wear holes in our shirt today?
Speaker 2: A different clock?
Speaker 3: But that's your own clothing line, right, Oh yeah yeah dope?
Speaker 3: And why state this is my ship?
Speaker 2: Okay? And you got two.
Speaker 5: Different versions of it, right because I heard you got
Speaker 5: one like a like an athletic version and you got
Speaker 5: like an upper scale.
Speaker 2: I mixed up both together, okay.
Speaker 6: I put like high end street where with with sportswear
Speaker 6: all the time. I didn't make the ship whatever. I
Speaker 6: don't have no rhyme or reason. I'll be pushing together right.
Speaker 5: But boom, and you went to Saint John's University. You
Speaker 5: can really say I'm brown skin. I live in Queens and.
Speaker 2: I love I was going I get it. Dm C
Speaker 2: went there. J Cole went there.
Speaker 5: Yeah, definitely, if you went there, we ain't claiming you.
Speaker 8: So damn.
Speaker 6: How was that going to a legendary school? Uh No,
Speaker 6: that was cool, man, That was that was really cool
Speaker 6: because I needed to be a doctor.
Speaker 2: I was. Yeah.
Speaker 6: I was determined to try to get out of the
Speaker 6: hood one up and do it the way my mother
Speaker 6: wanted me to do it the right way. But then
Speaker 6: the wrap, I wasn't like shopping the demo when trying
Speaker 6: to get on rappers over the dream for me. You
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. I was battle rapping and killing
Speaker 6: niggas on uh uh, you know, barber shops and all
Speaker 6: like it.
Speaker 2: Just before like Smack had the big stages.
Speaker 6: So I was doing that ship and then Buster ROMs
Speaker 6: called wind of it and he actually right now he
Speaker 6: cameos and I got to him and all that. He
Speaker 6: sent somebody to my school some type of way to
Speaker 6: contact me. I thought it was fake. I'm like, what
Speaker 6: I was going to school? I dan my third Yeah
Speaker 6: this is Diesel muster y.
Speaker 7: Yeah yeah, yeah, it's like, okay, okay, so that's a
Speaker 7: dress buster.
Speaker 2: This is now. I had the.
Speaker 7: Dress okay, okay.
Speaker 2: Ad So I left school.
Speaker 6: After that, I tried to balance both, but I was like, nah,
Speaker 6: I got the opportunity to do this music for real.
Speaker 2: I was like, fuck it.
Speaker 6: I started, uh, you know, trying to rap series after that.
Speaker 6: I was very serious, but I wasn't like it was
Speaker 6: still like a dream. I wasn't like shopping the demos
Speaker 6: doing it this traditional way, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: So that's what worked out, but you that shit is ill,
Speaker 5: like when you know your story, like and that you
Speaker 5: was studying to be a doctor, Like I didn't know
Speaker 5: what kind of doctor. I was going with physical sciences,
Speaker 5: figuring out what I was going to do. You know,
Speaker 5: most kids in school, they don't know what the fuck
Speaker 5: they want to be. You go to school, your parents,
Speaker 5: they go to school.
Speaker 6: Guy, I'm gonna go to school and figured out while
Speaker 6: I'm going, And I said, I'm sure if I'm a doctor, mom,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be proud of that, So let me try that.
Speaker 2: You know what's crazy.
Speaker 5: I was going through your music and I was like,
Speaker 5: you know, what makes you so dope is probably why,
Speaker 5: Like everyone don't catch on because you're like, you're like smart, smart.
Speaker 1: Like like you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You listen to his music?
Speaker 2: Like damn, what the fuck did he just say?
Speaker 7: You have listened to it a couple of times, And
Speaker 7: I'm like, if I'm a rapper.
Speaker 5: That wrap my whole life. Damn, man, let's just going
Speaker 5: with my head. What is the average person who's you
Speaker 5: know what I'm saying?
Speaker 6: Like, no, I take that as a compliment because a
Speaker 6: lot of people do miss the ship I be trying
Speaker 6: to say. And there was a period of my crewers
Speaker 6: like should I dumb it down? And I'm like a
Speaker 6: little bit, little bit I was tied to get misunderstood.
Speaker 3: That's not fucking fun. It sucks niggas again, It's like
Speaker 3: so I.
Speaker 6: Tried that, and then I was like, now the lover
Speaker 6: get it, get it now, just do what I do.
Speaker 6: If you get it, you get it. If you don't,
Speaker 6: you don't get it, That's that's fucking cool.
Speaker 2: You ever did. That's how going out my career. Now.
Speaker 7: I'm getting money on my old ship now, and that's
Speaker 7: the best way too.
Speaker 2: When you be listening to a record when you're older,
Speaker 2: and you'll be like, oh ship this way he meant, yeah,
Speaker 2: and you really you go back to the record that's
Speaker 2: happening now.
Speaker 6: A lot of my old ship, the old catalog old
Speaker 6: music is popping up now is nigga's favorites. And see
Speaker 6: some of these youngins niggas brand now. I'm like, yeah,
Speaker 6: it just came out, yes right, downloaded it. You got
Speaker 6: a fast catalog to something being going at it.
Speaker 5: I ain't gonna lie you ever thought that was a
Speaker 5: crush that so much of you know, so you're so
Speaker 5: dope as a lyricist, and like like you said.
Speaker 7: You said, you say dump it down, I don't. I
Speaker 7: don't even Yeah, I mean I'm not not really, But
Speaker 7: there was a time when I mean simply trying to
Speaker 7: make a say.
Speaker 3: A lot of his music. I noticed the time where
Speaker 3: he dumped it down a little bit.
Speaker 6: I was like, I trying to make a symbol like
Speaker 6: man if I wrap a little slow these kind of beats,
Speaker 6: how to get it? After while I was like, I'm
Speaker 6: I ain't like them records I was making. I was like,
Speaker 6: this shit, I'm gonna just do what I do and
Speaker 6: giddy get it. Whoever don't do because I'm experimental, just
Speaker 6: trying ship.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Right? Did you said you
Speaker 2: wrote for l ll Nah?
Speaker 9: Hell no, Tauld say he had to go get somebody else.
Speaker 7: That ship came up enough, you said, I did a podcast. Well,
Speaker 7: somebody asked me. I'm like, who is starting this ship?
Speaker 2: What did you write?
Speaker 7: There?
Speaker 2: Hook for j and that song just LL and Jlo song?
Speaker 6: Me and another writer in my studio, the studio on
Speaker 6: the chat ship, Black Can Studio.
Speaker 2: We wrote the whole song in.
Speaker 6: The studio, recorded it back and forth, like I can't sing,
Speaker 6: but I'm making the reference. So we wrote the whole
Speaker 6: Armor and B part of the record. J Well, she's singing.
Speaker 6: Me and another writer wrote the whole song. But Jaylo
Speaker 6: wasn't dead.
Speaker 2: I wish he was.
Speaker 6: The other artists Okay, the writer we wrote the whole record.
Speaker 6: That was part I was actually wrapping on the record
Speaker 6: at first. I was signing Sony back then, and when
Speaker 6: they took me off for LL and I was so
Speaker 6: tight as an artist I forgot I wrote the rest
Speaker 6: of the motherfucker song.
Speaker 2: I wasn't even fighting for my rights.
Speaker 7: I'm like, damn, I took and signed me for what
Speaker 7: I was mad that I was on the first I
Speaker 7: was like, I wanted to be on the ship and
Speaker 7: I wrote the motherfucker.
Speaker 6: But nah, I'm actually fighting for my rights to that
Speaker 6: record now. I ain't even getting no credit for that
Speaker 6: the whole time, for the J Lotle record. Yeah, but
Speaker 6: I know LLL slander no big of course.
Speaker 5: And just in case, you know that that sounds stressful,
Speaker 5: you know, case you know, this is a shout.
Speaker 3: This is just stressing, stressed, trying to rebrand it.
Speaker 2: Stressed that stressed, you got you gotta do it. Hoping
Speaker 2: d J. Sown is responsible. It's not the one getting
Speaker 2: really so so your new single, which is which is crazy.
Speaker 2: It's called rock and full of Chain. Yeah so rock.
Speaker 5: Yeah, man, you never got a Rockefeller chain. Nah, they
Speaker 5: found you out. Yeah, you know what.
Speaker 2: Happened? You know, No, I remember I got there. He
Speaker 2: was there too.
Speaker 5: I'm sorry. Listening to the record, I was like, damn flops.
Speaker 5: You had to feel something was going on. You let
Speaker 5: me get let me get that real quick, you know.
Speaker 2: What I mean? You know what happened.
Speaker 6: Remember I got there right before Dame Dash and jay
Speaker 6: Z part of ways and the differences. So my dear
Speaker 6: was like right when the ink was drying, they fell apart.
Speaker 6: I didn't get to like toll with you nigga under that.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, I met all of y'all
Speaker 6: for the first time.
Speaker 2: When you're all in London. It was crazy. Yeah, yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: that's crazy. I met you. I had left.
Speaker 4: Freestyle talking about that play. Yeah he went to signed
Speaker 4: after that legendary I've never been on in my life,
Speaker 4: Like is that play? And Dame dash like gloves off argument,
Speaker 4: Like everyone acts like they would sleep on the plane
Speaker 4: besides me.
Speaker 2: You know, the nigga have an argument there like you
Speaker 2: right flood and I'm like trying to be soon.
Speaker 5: Cold Dame like you right right right no, and I'm like.
Speaker 2: No man Like.
Speaker 7: I'm like, oh, I'm like free way right up, like
Speaker 7: somebody to help.
Speaker 2: I needed help, free beans on on. That's crazy.
Speaker 6: You wasn't on the I ended up staying in London longer.
Speaker 6: That was my first time on the periods. So me
Speaker 6: and Chast that was the d time. Yeah, we stay long.
Speaker 6: I was going I went crazy London. Let me ask
Speaker 6: you about nineteen it was what was it?
Speaker 5: It was a black hand slash rocking fellow deal.
Speaker 6: Yes, he was still on Black Hand after the Sony deal,
Speaker 6: right this after Sony. Yeah, then we came with you
Speaker 6: with y'all at the Rock and there was a two
Speaker 6: black hand.
Speaker 7: Yeah, me and Chats and everything. It was no me
Speaker 7: without Chats at that time. I ain't gonna front black
Speaker 7: one of the realist labels. Really, they don't know their history. Man.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna talk a little about it too. I got
Speaker 2: a chat, right, I.
Speaker 5: Mean, I mean, while we're here, let's let's let's touch
Speaker 5: on a little bit.
Speaker 2: But because of the Rock and fellers.
Speaker 6: Together, please, So when I got there, that was right
Speaker 6: when the Dame and Jay was breaking up. Okay, So
Speaker 6: I never got the chance to get the chain or
Speaker 6: experience none of the fucking.
Speaker 2: Fruits being with niggas. I was sadis no privacy, no no, probably.
Speaker 7: Forty club listened to a s I felt sorry. He
Speaker 7: called me to do the record. He sent me the verse.
Speaker 7: He's like, you believe I want you jump on this joint.
Speaker 7: He's sitting the virtue for it. I'm like, damn, man.
Speaker 2: Can I go make the chain nice?
Speaker 3: The kid?
Speaker 2: I'm here, Jill, go make it out. And then was
Speaker 2: like you should have been had one I know, I
Speaker 2: just I don't know what happened more the life.
Speaker 5: Like if you were to signed to the Rock a
Speaker 5: year or two before the break up, what do you think?
Speaker 2: I mean? I know it's a hypothetical question, but it's
Speaker 2: a good one.
Speaker 7: You think I mean, I would have stopped hustling the
Speaker 7: way earlier.
Speaker 2: Oh wow, that's a big fact.
Speaker 6: I had a whole different life, Like i'd have been
Speaker 6: torn with your niggas all I mean have the biggest toys.
Speaker 6: That ship was amazing watching that as a fan, just
Speaker 6: watching like, look.
Speaker 2: At this rocke Feller ship. Your niggas built it. They
Speaker 2: pile the scene.
Speaker 7: I was on a radio wrapping for nine hours commercial breaks.
Speaker 2: I was like, I wanted to be right there.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. So I did all that
Speaker 6: great when you you went. I wasn't there for the
Speaker 6: world toys. No, I want to know that.
Speaker 8: Damn ship.
Speaker 2: You know what was going on. They're not cooking with
Speaker 2: the rockets cooking smell. Literally.
Speaker 7: I was mad at the whole situation because remember grab
Speaker 7: me became.
Speaker 2: My nigga, you you know, like I was, he was
Speaker 2: over there too. Try I would use some patches in
Speaker 2: glo my niggun try to keep it together, shameless plug.
Speaker 5: You know, we're working on Bleak's rock Solid podcast, and
Speaker 5: Bleak says says to me, He's like, yo, you know,
Speaker 5: Grab was really really down with the rock and I
Speaker 5: was just like what I remember, but he broke it down.
Speaker 5: He was like no, no, no, no, no, he was really
Speaker 5: really and I was like, holy ship. So if you
Speaker 5: would have had I heard you say, I heard somebody
Speaker 5: say to you that you and fifty had like the
Speaker 5: same amount of buzz at one point, right, So, had
Speaker 5: you would have had that rock and Feller support that
Speaker 5: maybe Bleak had, or Freeway or beans or even a
Speaker 5: Kanye and reality, what would you think your career would
Speaker 5: be right now?
Speaker 6: If you had had that same time out of it,
Speaker 6: I'd have been out of here, out of here. As
Speaker 6: a matter of fact, I came there with Kanye.
Speaker 2: Wow. Me and Kanye came in at the same time.
Speaker 6: That's when I was still I was actually working with Kanye,
Speaker 6: and he told me how to write bars and all that,
Speaker 6: you know, how to really count the count balls.
Speaker 2: Now, Kanye, you don't even know you taught me that.
Speaker 6: I was in the bread making records, rapping for ninety
Speaker 6: million balls. He'd be like, Yo, you know sixteen balls
Speaker 6: way back there.
Speaker 2: Warming up.
Speaker 3: When he showed me where with the stop at, I
Speaker 3: was like, I had to.
Speaker 6: Like count the balls and I had like, oh, that's
Speaker 6: sixteen bars, got it? He told me how to count balls.
Speaker 6: Don't even fucking know.
Speaker 2: But nah. But I went there with Dame, I mean
Speaker 2: with Kanye at that time.
Speaker 6: But when the ship broke apart, out of loyalty in
Speaker 6: the way Chazz rocking with Jazz and with his mind
Speaker 6: think the loyal thing to do what's gold with Dane,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, I felt like that was
Speaker 6: the right thing to do Kanye, even though Dane brought
Speaker 6: me and Kanye to the rock, Kanye went with Jay,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, because that was better for
Speaker 6: his career. In his mind, I was better for his career.
Speaker 6: Not I don't knock him, but I just ain't cut
Speaker 6: like that. I had to go with who brought you. Yeah,
Speaker 6: that's that's how That's just how it is, because like
Speaker 6: when it broke up, it was almost like my mom
Speaker 6: and dad getting a divorce. It was it felt like
Speaker 6: that though, you know what I'm saying, Like.
Speaker 2: Yo, bro. I was heartbroken.
Speaker 7: It was almost like the magic trick where they snatched
Speaker 7: the rug and the dishes are still standing there, like.
Speaker 2: Wow, what are you doing?
Speaker 5: Yeah either remember either y'all remember that Jam had a
Speaker 5: chalkboard up. And then they would be like d d
Speaker 5: what was it, Dame Dash Music Group MG, and then
Speaker 5: it would be like I didn't see that rock and
Speaker 5: Feller because he was probably always just on whole side
Speaker 5: every day, like artists would change, like it was Beans
Speaker 5: like in the middle at first, and then yeah and
Speaker 5: then like for some week that's in some week fantasy football,
Speaker 5: and then Beans was on Dame Dash Music Group, and
Speaker 5: then my name was on Dame Dash Music Group.
Speaker 2: And then messages kept going you see where you were? No,
Speaker 2: this is this is, this is going on? What a
Speaker 2: lot of news.
Speaker 7: So Chris Light he kept raising my ship and putting
Speaker 7: my shit.
Speaker 2: On Depth Jam.
Speaker 7: So yeah, safe to say I wasn't going nowhere. As
Speaker 7: soon as they let it, there was like, you know,
Speaker 7: technically you didn't sign the Rockefeller So he was trolling
Speaker 7: on the Depth Jam. I was.
Speaker 2: I was in the Depth Jam, so right in the middle.
Speaker 2: It was like, hey.
Speaker 3: Man, man on Jam, you ain't going over a lot.
Speaker 5: I had a mean he was like, I'm you know,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna just politely ask you to honor your contract.
Speaker 2: That's all. It was basically like, nigga, you ain't going nowhere. Yeah,
Speaker 2: so damn I know. I asked you, and then we
Speaker 2: said we will get back to it.
Speaker 5: You know, having Chazz Cha is a powerful man in
Speaker 5: the streets, well respected in the industry. Might not know
Speaker 5: how to count baars neither, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: might not know how to you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: But what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Is but can get you to those doors.
Speaker 5: But at times it seemed like people were obviously respected
Speaker 5: him for some feared right just you think that for
Speaker 5: you was that was that something that hurt you.
Speaker 2: Or helped you or maybe it was in that middle.
Speaker 6: It was a little of both, because Chazz is like
Speaker 6: like in the beginning of the relationship, it seemed like
Speaker 6: beeness everybody, but like artists manager, But it was really
Speaker 6: like more like father and son for real, for real,
Speaker 6: because that's where when I was like fifteen sixteen, my
Speaker 6: actual dad got murdered in front of me, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Across the street from where my.
Speaker 7: Aunt was living at by my fucking neighbor, like shot
Speaker 7: him and his man. And to this day I never
Speaker 7: really processed the shit for oalver, I felt like I've
Speaker 7: seen it on a picture of something. But so Chad
Speaker 7: was always in my life from like then on, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, Like Chad music. Yeah, he wasn't
Speaker 7: allowing me to dude doing streets like all the hustle
Speaker 7: I did my life was.
Speaker 2: Behind jazz back. He would have shut all that shit down.
Speaker 7: He was not the kind of o G to mislead
Speaker 7: a young nigga like myself, not like my.
Speaker 6: Hustle with a bunch of niggas you know. But he
Speaker 6: would didn't know that was happening because he wouldn't have been
Speaker 6: like what he'd have been tight. So Chads was like
Speaker 6: a more of a father figure for me than than
Speaker 6: a manager, you know what I mean. So everything in
Speaker 6: the business we kind of learned together. I mean, he
Speaker 6: knew a lot of shit because this man was there
Speaker 6: and read all kind of books his patients is. You know,
Speaker 6: he did a lot of time, so he know how
Speaker 6: to use his time to educate himself and sit like that,
Speaker 6: learn the law all that, So we learned a lot
Speaker 6: of this shit together trial and so a whole lot
Speaker 6: of trials and never and shit like that. So in
Speaker 6: the streets he like the Godfather that shit. I do
Speaker 6: any projects. I went on prison tolls and everywhere. I'm
Speaker 6: face stamped, laminated everywhere. I'm good money in any hood,
Speaker 6: anywhere fucking world, Baltimore. It doesn't matter because you witch
Speaker 6: ass you gucci so in the street and helped in
Speaker 6: the industry because it's ran by business man's and punks
Speaker 6: and shit. A lot of that. A lot of them
Speaker 6: got was nervous around jazz. He didn't really, in my opinion,
Speaker 6: he didn't even learn how to finesse the fear into
Speaker 6: something that could help, because it could have helped him
Speaker 6: because he would have still been a cool guy in
Speaker 6: the room. He still was a cool guy in the room.
Speaker 6: But he was so concerned about making them comfortable. He
Speaker 6: ain't really use it to his advantage that they were uncomfortable, because.
Speaker 2: He could have.
Speaker 6: They would have been so happy to just have a
Speaker 6: picture of him me cool him like ya, I'm a jazz,
Speaker 6: I'm tough too.
Speaker 2: Like if he finessed it that way, you know.
Speaker 6: What, I'm saying, but it took us a while to
Speaker 6: figure it out, like we actually used this shit, you
Speaker 6: know what I'm saying. But any which way, it hurt
Speaker 6: with niggas that didn't want us around because they was
Speaker 6: uncomfortable with like real, real street niggas in the room.
Speaker 6: And then it also hurt too because of the whatever
Speaker 6: niggas thought about the fifty Chazz thing that I don't
Speaker 6: want to speak too much only that ain't even my business.
Speaker 2: But I'll touch it. I'll talk a little bit about it.
Speaker 6: But because of whatever issues they felt fifty and Chazz
Speaker 6: had and in fifties Diamond, remember he drops in the club,
Speaker 6: he's fucking ten million records. Yeah, way prior, way before
Speaker 6: I was even wrapping in in this game at all,
Speaker 6: they had chavs managing fifty some type of part as, yeah,
Speaker 6: something like that. So whatever issues they had transcended the
Speaker 6: street shit and got to the industry. And then them
Speaker 6: niggas acted super duper scary. But it wasn't like, uh,
Speaker 6: we wasn't black ball like literally, but it was like
Speaker 6: because fifty was such a big artist and he polarized everybody,
Speaker 6: and he makes niggas shoos, they chose.
Speaker 2: So it's like, we're gonna go with the industry. The industry.
Speaker 6: So it's like, all were gonna go with these street
Speaker 6: niggas that make us nervous, We'll go with this nigga
Speaker 6: that's already fucking diamond and he's selling ads and selling
Speaker 6: our concerts, Like we gotta choose. It's gonna be they
Speaker 6: gonna choose. Let's bringing the money already. It was kind
Speaker 6: of easy for them to be like, all right, we
Speaker 6: riding with him. Fuck these niggas, so that he was
Speaker 6: always fighting to get in the rooms, fighting to be
Speaker 6: present in certain rooms because they was super fucking scary,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So that shit sucked, you know what I mean?
Speaker 6: Like I was, I felt like I was chasing something
Speaker 6: my whole career, you know, I had mad talent and
Speaker 6: records and all of that shit. Niggas just never green
Speaker 6: light and certain shit always blocking, always resistance, and I'm like,
Speaker 6: the fuck is that memo that went out with your niggas?
Speaker 2: Like what the fuck?
Speaker 6: But I understand now, back then, I didn't give a
Speaker 6: fuck while I was like, all I know was that
Speaker 6: y'all stop even getting rich. And it sucks, you know,
Speaker 6: what I'm saying, Like there wasn't what's up? And Chazz
Speaker 6: is the most solid nigga ever like and he wasn't
Speaker 6: trying to make niggas uncomfortable or thought him out in
Speaker 6: no kind of way, but just his presence because he
Speaker 6: was such an official nigga, they would just feeling like
Speaker 6: they're getting.
Speaker 2: Pressed when he's standing there.
Speaker 6: He ain't even saying any man, are you so pussy?
Speaker 6: They felt like they were getting pressed no matter what
Speaker 6: I'm like, not even I know him, so I know
Speaker 6: he's like he on like best behavior right now, just chilling.
Speaker 6: They're still nervous, like I'm like, my nigga, he's being nice,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. And it was just super
Speaker 6: nervous and that so that part of it hindered things because.
Speaker 2: They felt they had to choose.
Speaker 7: They didn't have to choose, but they thought they had
Speaker 7: to choose, and that definitely slow shit up.
Speaker 5: Is that your problem with g Unit at times because
Speaker 5: you was with Black Can, Well, that's that's what the
Speaker 5: streets made it.
Speaker 6: I never had a problem with fifty. And the crazy
Speaker 6: thing about the ship is that but you took a
Speaker 6: shot of.
Speaker 2: Lloyd Banks when a rap.
Speaker 3: Yeah, I took a shot a body, but it wasn't
Speaker 3: like a real shot though. I was like, I probably
Speaker 3: said some slic shit because I just that's what I do.
Speaker 3: New York ship, New York ship, like I fuck with
Speaker 3: because I with all them niggas. It was never personal.
Speaker 3: It's like this competitive ship, like I never if.
Speaker 6: I'm a dissu, it's a disc them little ship is
Speaker 6: like that's like rap ship, Like that's not no real
Speaker 6: like you.
Speaker 5: But you gotta realize, probably coming from a person that's
Speaker 5: down with jash Camp, it's probably didn't look like it
Speaker 5: was just a jazz.
Speaker 2: Probably looked like this was all out, you know.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying, Like I probably said fifty it ain't
Speaker 6: wait one, I said banks. But it was never like
Speaker 6: in a super dispecful way where God be like, oh,
Speaker 6: fucking niggas.
Speaker 2: It's probably just like if I ain't like it. But
Speaker 2: it's like slick ship.
Speaker 6: It's like this Liverpool ship like it's nothing like a
Speaker 6: disrespect like, oh, we gotta go to war. It was
Speaker 6: never that I was we went to wall. It was
Speaker 6: it was never like I never went there. I went
Speaker 6: there with other niggas many times. I never dissed. None
Speaker 6: of the niggas like that because you're from the same
Speaker 6: hood and I admired, but they accomplished.
Speaker 2: They live three minutes.
Speaker 6: From my two minutes from my mom trips right there,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So it's like I always
Speaker 6: felt connected to them niggas even if he wasn't, you
Speaker 6: know what I mean. So I never like this them ever,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying, I still respect them niggas.
Speaker 2: This is that cool.
Speaker 6: Like I've seen Banks recently, I seen fifty recently, Like
Speaker 6: we just we're not the best of friends, but niggas
Speaker 6: is cool, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: I wish we were cool for real. The queens would
Speaker 2: have been on the fire.
Speaker 5: Her life would have been like if Jazz and fifty
Speaker 5: didn't catch that beef and.
Speaker 2: My nigga it would have been unified. Would have been like.
Speaker 5: You if Jazz and fifty never caught that problem and
Speaker 5: and you would have been signed to g Unit, it.
Speaker 6: Would have been it would have been crazy. I would
Speaker 6: have been if I would have took bank spot, I
Speaker 6: don't know what you.
Speaker 2: Wanna take niggas spots.
Speaker 3: Over there in the fifties, Like, don't he know something
Speaker 3: like okay with two reler niggas.
Speaker 6: I don't fucking know, but I tried to fix that issue.
Speaker 6: This is the part. I'm glad you brought it up
Speaker 6: as I had to talk about it.
Speaker 5: When you went to the office, you went to fifty.
Speaker 5: Come on, man, you stick together man. And this is
Speaker 5: the part of yourself too.
Speaker 7: There's a all that's crazy because see and this is
Speaker 7: a bit but broke my heart. Chazz passed away r
Speaker 7: Ip without knowing the truth about the story. After I
Speaker 7: separated from from from Jazz. Right, ben is Wise is
Speaker 7: not personally I still hey, bro, but benness Wise when
Speaker 7: I try to do my own independent thing, he thought
Speaker 7: I went to g unit after that.
Speaker 2: I don't know nigga.
Speaker 6: About to see to see fifty. Yeah, because I never
Speaker 6: after I never told him the story. I know he
Speaker 6: would have been like, you can't go there by yourself. No,
Speaker 6: he would shut it down. So I never told him
Speaker 6: the ship. I just did them own, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. And I didn't know what the Union office
Speaker 6: was at the time. It's gonna have bringing Goon's out
Speaker 6: on super black hen they can wear a black literally
Speaker 6: black and black. I want you to make Avenue, nigga,
Speaker 6: Like you went to the first union office and they
Speaker 6: wasn't dead.
Speaker 2: I went there in the gen that told me where
Speaker 2: they was at because they just moved like literally a
Speaker 2: day before. Blew up, all right, my ni.
Speaker 6: So when I get to the old union office and
Speaker 6: he's like, nah, they down the block. They're in the
Speaker 6: office right across the street from the Tom Squire newspaper building,
Speaker 6: whatever it was. I'll say back, thanks, I go over there.
Speaker 6: So this was this is why they were so surprised,
Speaker 6: because they just they just moved in there like litterally
Speaker 6: a day or two ago. So when I get there,
Speaker 6: I'm walking up the steps. I'm a little a little nervous.
Speaker 6: So I'm like, damn, hope to hope this should go well,
Speaker 6: because what if it don't, you know, I'm dolo. So
Speaker 6: I'm going up there. I'm like walking the stuff. I'm like,
Speaker 6: you know, maybe the doors.
Speaker 2: Will be locked. Pably just turned back. It ain't my mine.
Speaker 2: I'm pushing right over. Look at that motherfucker floated in
Speaker 2: there in the office. I was like, oh shit.
Speaker 6: I'm at the front desk, like they're like, who you
Speaker 6: here to see I'm like I'm trying to talk low.
Speaker 2: Nobody had me yea, I made it see fifty. She like,
Speaker 2: who I say? Who should I say?
Speaker 7: Is A?
Speaker 10: Is a?
Speaker 7: Here's like tell them graph shay graph from where I
Speaker 7: don't want to say black cau.
Speaker 2: I was like, graph from Queen. I tell them.
Speaker 6: She went back to the nigga ahead it's going down.
Speaker 6: So like I'm nervous though, because I don't know how
Speaker 6: this shit gonna go. And his nigga's attention is through
Speaker 6: the roof. They look, they sees me. They're like you
Speaker 6: could see.
Speaker 2: They like kind of pantings they wont should be jumping,
Speaker 2: should be doing out the window? What the fuck? You
Speaker 2: got a bomb modem looking out the window. They don't
Speaker 2: know what to do.
Speaker 6: They're not comfortable either. So but I'm like, oh this sucks.
Speaker 6: The tension is through the roof. They don't know how
Speaker 6: to react. Even his main security there came to me
Speaker 6: like he was like, what are.
Speaker 2: You doing here?
Speaker 7: I say, now, I just come to I'm just wanted
Speaker 7: to tiller the holler the homie like I come in
Speaker 7: Peach really just want to chop it up.
Speaker 2: He didn't know how to react. You would tell he
Speaker 2: was like, do I said it? Do I not said it?
Speaker 6: He like he ain't know how to do it. He
Speaker 6: was like, I just wait right here. But the way
Speaker 6: the way his the way his his officer set up.
Speaker 6: It's like a living room. So I'm sitting like in
Speaker 6: the main part. He like, just don't sit here because
Speaker 6: he can't hide or do what he will. He can't
Speaker 6: he can't decide if you want to meet you or not.
Speaker 6: He's sitting right here. He's like, just staying right here
Speaker 6: for a second. Let me figure this shit out. Because
Speaker 6: I'm talking to something like no, I come in, peach boy,
Speaker 6: ain't nothing like I ain't strapped, It's no bomb on
Speaker 6: me nothing. I'm just trying to talk to the bro.
Speaker 6: But it was super tense, my nigga, Like you understand,
Speaker 6: I got to joy the shit out. Like behind the uh,
Speaker 6: behind the the the secretary desk, it's like this little
Speaker 6: like wall unit thing, but it got like little cracks
Speaker 6: in it, so if you standing behind it, I can't
Speaker 6: see it.
Speaker 3: I can see it's your hat or your eyeball. Do
Speaker 3: you see my eyeballs? The hats popping out of shit.
Speaker 2: I'm like this ship. Niggas don't know what They're like,
Speaker 2: They're looking out the window. They just like, yo, is
Speaker 2: this a bilits around him? I'm like, nah, none of that.
Speaker 2: But you could see they trying to figure They're trying
Speaker 2: to process it, like do we set it?
Speaker 7: Do we wait?
Speaker 2: Like like they're trying to get busy too. So yeah,
Speaker 2: the fact, So that's why I'm.
Speaker 3: Nerves something like if somebody take it wrong, it can
Speaker 3: go super left.
Speaker 2: You could die, like this is not fun. But the
Speaker 2: ship I didn't get to speak to the nigga though
Speaker 2: he didn't come out, no money, was getting ready for
Speaker 2: interviews something like that. But let me ask you.
Speaker 6: I was like, damn, so I wanted to talk. Got
Speaker 6: out that room that day and it was just you
Speaker 6: and him. What you what you would have said to him?
Speaker 6: I would have really just tried to squash it with
Speaker 6: him and Chad. I let him know like I don't
Speaker 6: know y'all history, and it's none of my real business,
Speaker 6: but I wanted to tell you he speaks highly of you.
Speaker 2: Say that he doesn't speaks holly of him.
Speaker 6: Chad never talk ill of them, nobody at Black Hen
Speaker 6: never really talked all of them. So it's like, I
Speaker 6: don't know if he knew that, you know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: So whatever personal feelings, I was like, if it could
Speaker 6: be worked out, I'll let it know that. And if
Speaker 6: it can, if he was like, I can't work, I
Speaker 6: would like I like to know that too. Is if
Speaker 6: it can't be worked out, then I have to go
Speaker 6: on all regular queen shit. I just I just like
Speaker 6: it can't be worked out for because if I, if
Speaker 6: I'm cool with you, do records with you, it's gonna
Speaker 6: benefit me. If I be with you and did you
Speaker 6: want a record and force you to say my name
Speaker 6: back but still gonna get.
Speaker 2: Rich, I'm like, I'm that badest, but don't matter. I
Speaker 2: I just want to get rich.
Speaker 6: Right here, I'm trying to level of playing ground. So
Speaker 6: let's say he says, nah, we can never be cool.
Speaker 6: Fuck out of here. I'll be like, all right, cool,
Speaker 6: I have to take that too. But this gray area
Speaker 6: ship where I'm trying to fix it for years, it
Speaker 6: is like frustrating as fuck. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 6: because I from the same wood. I want to be
Speaker 6: cool with all your niggas, but I'm cool with the
Speaker 6: rest of the niggas in the street. I just never
Speaker 6: got that bomb with Fifth because of the situation. I
Speaker 6: felt that wasn't my place to even try to bomb when.
Speaker 5: I'm going the situation, you know what I mean, Other
Speaker 5: than that encounter, what you go into the office, Was
Speaker 5: it any other time you tried to squash it?
Speaker 6: I think I was the first time, like in a
Speaker 6: real way, and then every time I see him after that,
Speaker 6: after I seen ya Yoe like in a wee spot,
Speaker 6: he told me, he was like, is it not fist funk?
Speaker 2: Would you just go hot at him? You see hi?
Speaker 6: But I said word I And then I seen the
Speaker 6: other team, you know, Elvado was other man. I seen
Speaker 6: his son and some ship on the West coast. Butere
Speaker 6: he's doing some legal activities. And he told me the same.
Speaker 6: She's like, now fin Funel, do you see him?
Speaker 2: Just say what up? So you he said, yeah, man,
Speaker 2: you just say what up? So he was doing some
Speaker 2: TV shit. I seen him and he said it up.
Speaker 6: And It's funny because when I first got to talk
Speaker 6: to Fifth, it felt like he had a lot to
Speaker 6: say too, like just ship that he probably was and
Speaker 6: had on his mind on those conscious for years to
Speaker 6: say to me. I had like, yeah, the ship, I
Speaker 6: wanted to say the fifth. When I seen him and
Speaker 6: got to talk, I was like, I forgot all that ship.
Speaker 6: I was like, damn, hi, nigga, nothing, But now it's
Speaker 6: it's no, it's no issue. Like I'm I'm, I'm I'm
Speaker 6: Queen's all the way nigga. That if we could have
Speaker 6: all been cool, that have been great. Wor I tried though,
Speaker 6: but he never I didn't get the chance to actually
Speaker 6: make my man.
Speaker 5: Do you remember another instant when you tried other than that,
Speaker 5: like like you know what I mean, Like I forget
Speaker 5: if it wasn't face to face, like the two way messages.
Speaker 6: Lead because I was I always wanted to uh to
Speaker 6: make that happen. Plus, you know, without have done for
Speaker 6: Queen's niggas, we'd have been looking crazy because Brooklyn always
Speaker 6: had Brooklyn guys always had it, always had.
Speaker 2: This is Queen.
Speaker 6: What I'm saying, a whole lot of listening Laurian crafts,
Speaker 6: like the list for Brooklyn be long as ship.
Speaker 2: A lot of Brooklyn niggas.
Speaker 7: We ain't funk with each other either, That's a fact,
Speaker 7: Like you know what I'm saying, Like still to this day,
Speaker 7: like we're cool. We see each other but we got
Speaker 7: records together. Like, so it's the same ship's New York ship, Miss.
Speaker 6: New York ship on your own ship. I want to
Speaker 6: do that for queen as bad as a motherfucker. That
Speaker 6: ship would have been crazy, you know, the project. They
Speaker 6: would have been retadled. At one point, I'm saying he died.
Speaker 6: There was talks of a Queen's tour.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm. See you know about this. I said that
Speaker 2: on talking about it. That would have been amazing, you know.
Speaker 5: You know my personal Like, so I don't know, I
Speaker 5: don't even remember if there was a Queen's tour, who
Speaker 5: do you think should be on that tour?
Speaker 2: Who would you pick to be on these queens? I'm
Speaker 2: picking picking definitely Prodigy, you nigga?
Speaker 3: Uh but.
Speaker 6: Deep, my deep cnn, you know what I'm saying. Seeing
Speaker 6: that I'm going the fuck fifth unit, a lot of
Speaker 6: legendary queens, niggas quest get a lot of crazy tribe
Speaker 6: lost lost boys, stack bundles. Peter my nigga. Chinks would
Speaker 6: have been on it. Peter, my nigga. That had to
Speaker 6: be crazy. That's another talented brother. That's my son too.
Speaker 6: One missing.
Speaker 2: I want him to say, witness L L for sure.
Speaker 6: The one misses a lot niggas them, but I'm the
Speaker 6: name of niggas. That's the top of my head right
Speaker 6: now we're talking about them. Who would you pick? I
Speaker 6: picked everybody?
Speaker 2: You just picked.
Speaker 5: Yeah we got you know, Vanessa's super sequence, So sisters
Speaker 5: back in.
Speaker 2: The days, we ain't say.
Speaker 5: Yeah, yeah, yeah, you know who I would love to
Speaker 5: headline that tour will be nas and fifth.
Speaker 7: That'd be crazy. I'll buy ticket to see that ship
Speaker 7: and I'll be on it. I'm a buy ticket.
Speaker 2: I want to see that. Yeah, that would be crazy.
Speaker 2: That would be crazy.
Speaker 5: Hang with you, so listen, man, our show was about
Speaker 5: giving people flowers. Man, we want to give you your flowers.
Speaker 5: We've been on You've been on Drink Champs before, but
Speaker 5: this is your interview, dedicating this to you.
Speaker 2: We make sure you get your motherfucking floers.
Speaker 11: Yeah, indeed, we also got this is fire taping this
Speaker 11: to the wall. You mean right up, that's a fact.
Speaker 2: The one on the Man new piece find the spot.
Speaker 2: It's crazy.
Speaker 3: I appreciate this, like for real, this is my grammy, nigga,
Speaker 3: this is this is the man too. That Yeah, he
Speaker 3: said it's better than the Grammy because it comes from
Speaker 3: your people.
Speaker 6: That's what may fact. That's what I felt like. I
Speaker 6: love that last time I was on the ship. That
Speaker 6: was a job episode, okay, and it was mad long ago.
Speaker 7: That's when I didn't realize how busy I get with
Speaker 7: this liquor ship. Yeah, left Joe the tour to come
Speaker 7: on man. Yeah, yeah, you know so John John the
Speaker 7: head it get the money to man, they got the money.
Speaker 7: I hold on, hold on, hold on, And I know
Speaker 7: I'm naive. I know I'm naive.
Speaker 5: One of the ellss times someone laughed at me was
Speaker 5: when I had remy Ma up here and I said
Speaker 5: I would like the original terroor score.
Speaker 2: I have to be together, and she was like me
Speaker 2: so much. I was like editing this part what I'm saying.
Speaker 5: So, I know I'm naive, right, But what I'm saying is,
Speaker 5: imagine all those names for real and we do a
Speaker 5: festival style.
Speaker 2: It'd be crazy. We do a festival style, We're meaning like.
Speaker 3: Stages, generational stage here, it could be generational, it could
Speaker 3: be styles.
Speaker 2: Yeah, generational. I didn't think of it like that. To
Speaker 2: be crazy. Yeah, like some of jam style, they really
Speaker 2: be fucking crazy though. Niggas come out to see that.
Speaker 7: I would see that as a fan hip hop, I
Speaker 7: would come see it even though I'd be on it
Speaker 7: watch nigga likes.
Speaker 5: I tell you, I tell you, I tell you another
Speaker 5: story real quickly though, and we're gonna jump back in.
Speaker 5: There was this this print and Dubai I don't know
Speaker 5: if you know this one, and they wanted me Nah,
Speaker 5: marm Deep and I forget who else. That's crazy, but
Speaker 5: he just wanted us to perform in his living room.
Speaker 2: Everybody wanted the bread, but nobody was just like food.
Speaker 2: This come out.
Speaker 5: The bread was fantastic and it was actually people follow
Speaker 5: up on this. It was actually prodigy like Nah. He
Speaker 5: was the only one that was just kind of like,
Speaker 5: I don't know if he's.
Speaker 7: Saying niggas go shit, the niggas living room for free man,
Speaker 7: I trying to get a check.
Speaker 2: Your living room.
Speaker 6: I should have said yeah, because like I've been I've
Speaker 6: been to a billionaire crib before in the Hamptons who
Speaker 6: has big concerts and ship in his crib.
Speaker 2: But the nigga crib is so crazy.
Speaker 7: It's like you forget you in a nigga house like
Speaker 7: this would be part of like the left left Left.
Speaker 2: So we don't know picture when you remote like flight Masters.
Speaker 7: We had Garden and that Jaden kiss wrapped about his bathtub,
Speaker 7: left foul, his wolves doing three six all that.
Speaker 2: In terms of transformers like bedroom condo that was performing.
Speaker 2: I was, I was it. I didn't care to instagram
Speaker 2: me Instagram.
Speaker 10: I'm good.
Speaker 2: I know you. So that was okay. So, uh, we
Speaker 2: don't know if you know hime on you Yeah, yeah,
Speaker 2: everybody know.
Speaker 3: You know the rules of this game, the drinking game.
Speaker 3: I think so yeah, but let's give I're gonna give
Speaker 3: you two choices. Pick one, we don't drink, pick both
Speaker 3: or neither of them.
Speaker 2: We all drink. So if you get the PC answer.
Speaker 3: We drink.
Speaker 6: Yeah, all right, mat well, I won't say last month
Speaker 6: say I got so wasted, I don't know how to
Speaker 6: got home.
Speaker 2: I made it. I'm here, he made it. That was
Speaker 2: when we was at the eight or nine. I made
Speaker 2: I was like five.
Speaker 6: When you when you sit for so long, don't pay
Speaker 6: attention to ship, you stand up. That's every ship got.
Speaker 7: And know got a lot of people up here confessing.
Speaker 6: I was like, I was, I don't know how I
Speaker 6: made it home. Remember that time we got drunking your
Speaker 6: crip six in the morning.
Speaker 12: I got home.
Speaker 13: I made it in the morning. We ran out of
Speaker 13: looking beds and ship. It was like someone you know
Speaker 13: in college drinking big ran out run.
Speaker 2: That's what happened. Why had to walk around with the
Speaker 2: battles of wine and ship.
Speaker 5: A lot of you Yo, you know what, My my
Speaker 5: bet red carpet is always lit. I'm the only nigga
Speaker 5: that I got lit up.
Speaker 2: I started it from the Beg Awards BG.
Speaker 5: When we first one day, I realized we were only
Speaker 5: one backstage.
Speaker 2: What what budget? Let you drink.
Speaker 3: Drinks?
Speaker 2: I got that glass. So we started to hip Hop Wars.
Speaker 7: Then the next year they asked me to do the
Speaker 7: b T Red car not not the Hip Hop Awars,
Speaker 7: and they let me upgrade.
Speaker 2: I was like, well it was on com you know,
Speaker 2: they can't this spot. I think I did.
Speaker 5: And Sunny d b He's snuck in the bottles and
Speaker 5: then we realized, Yo, you don't got to sneak them in.
Speaker 2: Were just hold him out.
Speaker 8: This is drink hip you know.
Speaker 5: And I was like, oh, so that was the first year.
Speaker 5: Now this year we were super bowled. We out there
Speaker 5: with the ace spade. People were like, uh huh, yeah,
Speaker 5: that's great. She was like, uh huh, yeah, that's that's
Speaker 5: the first one. We got that on the stage.
Speaker 2: That was that was that the one.
Speaker 5: The first started with Hip Hop Awards when we won
Speaker 5: award and when we realized that wasn't there.
Speaker 2: Nobody snuck in but and nobody snucking liquor, so we
Speaker 2: have both. Yeah, that's crazy. Room was lit.
Speaker 3: Everybody we was handing on drinks on stage. You need
Speaker 3: a job, a job, yea, yeah. Look at that his
Speaker 3: whost studio, you know his studio. Y. Yeah, because your
Speaker 3: nigs is out.
Speaker 7: Man.
Speaker 2: You gotta come up, man, you know better. You don't
Speaker 2: see it. You see your nighbors. Man, crazy man, come up.
Speaker 2: That was That was great context. It's not conscious's not calling.
Speaker 2: Oh yeah yeah, in fact, that's right. Yeah, okay, this
Speaker 2: is gonna be ill. I trust you know.
Speaker 5: I don't write these questions. By the way, it's a
Speaker 5: Dominican and the Columbian guy right there. Let me go
Speaker 5: with mad paint in his bid and the Dominican guy
Speaker 5: that smell like cocaine. Okay, and any stories you got, anybody,
Speaker 5: any stories you got about this?
Speaker 2: This is this is dope.
Speaker 3: This is question is dope by them jay z or
Speaker 3: Nis I'm a Queen's now. I gotta go with nas.
Speaker 3: I hold that. It's a good one. That's a good
Speaker 3: one I loved. But that I did beans or freeway,
Speaker 3: Damn what I do that? Ye take a shot?
Speaker 2: Take a shot? They go there, Captain America shots.
Speaker 6: Yeah, man on the stretch off these questions, this part
Speaker 6: of the game dangerous. N w A or Wo Tang
Speaker 6: clan that's impactful too. But I gotta go with the
Speaker 6: wool though. But n w A was just as an
Speaker 6: impact on the West Coast by I'm the New York nigga,
Speaker 6: so I felt the effects of the wool. Here shout
Speaker 6: out the math. So that was my first single man
Speaker 6: met the man. Shout out to the Memphis. That's right,
Speaker 6: you're meth p d Crack or Young Chris.
Speaker 2: Why are we doing this drink?
Speaker 3: That's gonna work. It's gonna go another shot after my
Speaker 3: niggas either setups Kanye West or just blaze. That's a
Speaker 3: good question too.
Speaker 6: It's crazy because when I was at the Rock, me
Speaker 6: and We me and was kind of close back then,
Speaker 6: just blade college radio together. They had they had but
Speaker 6: they had their little thing. You know they were competing
Speaker 6: with at the rock, they was going hard to just yeah,
Speaker 6: it was h yeah, you had to.
Speaker 2: With schmoke. Serious, you may have no a C. So
Speaker 2: you wanted to get into as they were going. A
Speaker 2: studio used to break. Then we was hutting niggas and
Speaker 2: then Superman dollar spot. But that that's the.
Speaker 7: Bro.
Speaker 2: No, I'm talking about like how we used to keep
Speaker 2: it fucked up.
Speaker 3: You know.
Speaker 5: Time my studio's been in my studio. Of course, getting
Speaker 5: back my studio was so fucked up. Eb queen came
Speaker 5: over to lay a verse. She took her shoes off.
Speaker 5: I was like, sweetheart, we don't have no cleaning lady,
Speaker 5: your shoes serious, but so what you just please? Yeah,
Speaker 5: I'm gonna answer. I'm probably gonna have to go with
Speaker 5: yeah on that one. But I love just too, so
Speaker 5: it's like a rough question. But I might go yeah
Speaker 5: on that one, just because he's still doing it. I mean,
Speaker 5: just play still taking as though I'm gonna.
Speaker 2: Go ye, we don't go lost boys are on. Damn.
Speaker 6: That's a good one to you. I want some queen
Speaker 6: all kind of ship that disrespectful definitely damn both equally
Speaker 6: as impactful. But I must probably have to say Lost
Speaker 6: Boys because of where I live at, so I felt
Speaker 6: the effects of that more.
Speaker 2: I mean, but on the south side, the south side too.
Speaker 6: But Lost Boys live like a little like three blocks
Speaker 6: like from my mother my mother house.
Speaker 5: So it's like like I can see you create for
Speaker 5: my window. So it's like, Sticky, do be claiming Brooklyn?
Speaker 5: Sometimes you do? Yeah, be claiming Brooklyn. Sometimes we don't
Speaker 5: like it. Okay, from Brooklyn to like, wait a minute,
Speaker 5: with your whole career, Quail.
Speaker 2: That's the fact side.
Speaker 6: I don't know, but I lost Boys on that one.
Speaker 6: Just what what it personally was, how it affected me.
Speaker 6: I seen the impact of that first hand.
Speaker 2: Okay, l A big daddy came. Damn, I was gonna
Speaker 2: switch it up. This is wild. This is like brown
Speaker 2: skin against dark skin right here.
Speaker 11: This is like.
Speaker 2: Against tried some ship over here, I know, trying to route. Now,
Speaker 2: I'm I'm to stay on my queenst to go l
Speaker 2: ll on this joint.
Speaker 5: Cain Caine was like, damn, but these are like unfair questions.
Speaker 5: I can't crucified, nigga. This is my eyeballs. Stick I
Speaker 5: was cutting my ship trying to be gay hold that
Speaker 5: through cutting your eye. Damn this nigga knew hilarious Cougie
Speaker 5: rapp or big Punt.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm, God, damn it a shot.
Speaker 14: Let's lea you have a big pun? Why should take
Speaker 14: a shot? Let's take a shot? Can that by the
Speaker 14: way making it chilled? Mm hmm, fucking dad Biggie or
Speaker 14: Big l mm hmmm. See how you see what he
Speaker 14: pulling up? Bright now you already now is going down
Speaker 14: ship now. But I'm gonna go be.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go be. I love Big L too. But
Speaker 6: that's that's b indeed, that's a big fact. I just
Speaker 6: Cuba scarf Face.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go I'm gonna go with ice Cube as
Speaker 6: a pactful as a motherfucker, but I'm gonna go with
Speaker 6: scar Face.
Speaker 2: That's what. That's one of my big bros.
Speaker 6: Car Face and Big and Mona sign you Yeah, earlier
Speaker 6: work we can talk about that. I ain't no better
Speaker 6: at the time. Wh ja jam Now he was trying
Speaker 6: to sign me to his label. This is but this
Speaker 6: is the beginning of my career. That's I was one
Speaker 6: of the first rappers is in the South doing These
Speaker 6: are my real friends like scar Face Bummy. These are
Speaker 6: my friends in real life. So I was in the
Speaker 6: South making records, hanging out, staying out there there, living
Speaker 6: out there, way before it was in style or whatever the.
Speaker 2: Fuck for East Coast niggas to get a war was
Speaker 2: going through that.
Speaker 13: Yeah.
Speaker 6: So I was already in a bidding wall with so
Speaker 6: many and the bigger labels, and then Scarface came and said, listen,
Speaker 6: listen to this. I didn't know what this meant back then,
Speaker 6: but he said, take you on tour, he said, Graft,
Speaker 6: I want to sign you to my label. He said,
Speaker 6: I don't have the money to compete with the big
Speaker 6: labels like the Sony's and the Depth Jams, but what
Speaker 6: I can do is take you on tour and break
Speaker 6: you as an artist to all my fans and all
Speaker 6: these markets around the country.
Speaker 3: I didn't know what the fuck that meant back then.
Speaker 3: More than any would have got from a label, I would.
Speaker 6: Have been the biggest rapper ever, because there's no nigga
Speaker 6: ever told the South in that way.
Speaker 2: Every introduced by.
Speaker 6: I know what that meant back didn't though, So because
Speaker 6: I'm like, damn, I want to do that, but I'm
Speaker 6: fucking years old somebody talking about half a million dollars
Speaker 6: this label, talking about this amount of bread.
Speaker 2: I'm like, what do you do?
Speaker 3: What do you do?
Speaker 7: What do you do?
Speaker 2: I didn't know what that meant? Did I was? I
Speaker 2: don't know.
Speaker 6: Yeah, twenty nigga'm learning the business. I ain't know shit
Speaker 6: about nothing. So I went with the bigger labels and
Speaker 6: not understanding what that man.
Speaker 2: If I knew what it meant, like I could keep
Speaker 2: our bread, I'm going with Face out of here.
Speaker 3: Small, yeah, small, because I didn't know that until he
Speaker 3: became the president of def JAM South. I didn't even
Speaker 3: know he had his own label outside of when he
Speaker 3: was on rap a lot and then he I didn't
Speaker 3: know he had a label.
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think his face.
Speaker 6: Yeah, it was asraz out of here nigga, like forever,
Speaker 6: Like it's kind of like Homember when he came out.
Speaker 6: He was so big because he did all the urch
Speaker 6: Sharry Marks and the small markets for so many years,
Speaker 6: and by the time he had a hit.
Speaker 2: It was like yeah, yeah, he had the relationship on
Speaker 2: the coast. Nigga. With that kind of.
Speaker 6: Connection, that would have been a game changer for you,
Speaker 6: I know, for any imagine the East Coast nigga, that
Speaker 6: no East Coast nigga ever had that life.
Speaker 2: I know what that meant back then, though I was
Speaker 2: too young. I like this question. I bet I won't
Speaker 2: clue or funk flex. Oh man, neither of them play
Speaker 2: this ship. I got it almost almost. I'll tell you
Speaker 2: what the hook. Remember bring the Goons Out?
Speaker 6: That was the biggest record I ever had in New
Speaker 6: York City with niggas knew the words and playing in
Speaker 6: the fucking boogie clubs.
Speaker 2: It was a big clue broke that show on the radio.
Speaker 6: Clue broke that nigga was bringing that record back like
Speaker 6: three six times a night, dropping bombs shot. He stepped
Speaker 6: a way outside of that ship. I never that he
Speaker 6: broke that motherfucker all the way, all the way. Okay,
Speaker 6: so I gotta go clue, really.
Speaker 2: Don't show it out. You know what I'm saying, Like
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying, Flex, like you rhyme on
Speaker 2: the show. Let you ron he did?
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 3: So now never gonna never getting righted to another niggas pigure,
Speaker 3: I understand.
Speaker 2: Kill me.
Speaker 5: No more picnics. Okay, this is a good one. Large
Speaker 5: pro molly ma both queens too, Damn mm hmm.
Speaker 2: That's a tough one.
Speaker 3: See, I should have took a shot on the last one,
Speaker 3: because I would take a shot on this one too.
Speaker 3: Uh large pro on molly Ma, hold on, who learn from?
Speaker 3: Who was molly ma first original? Okay, that's that's smart,
Speaker 3: that was smart.
Speaker 7: Tell molly Ma clear some samples though, Man, you don't
Speaker 7: be clear. Hell no, man, there's much niggas. He got it,
Speaker 7: he got it must be some Brooklyn ship. Okay, Queen's past.
Speaker 10: Queen.
Speaker 2: That's funny.
Speaker 5: Lloyd Banks or Tony yeo. We gotta fix the g
Speaker 5: in the relationship now, so let's just keep this.
Speaker 2: Is a set up.
Speaker 6: This is a set up, goddamnit. Well, I mean Lloyd
Speaker 6: Banks the lyrical nigga's that nice? But the gona be
Speaker 6: outside with you all. You'll take a shot both of
Speaker 6: what I'm uni.
Speaker 2: Word mega or nature. This is something. This is. That's
Speaker 2: a good one too. It's some dirty ship I ain't
Speaker 2: do Yeah, shut up, it's all yo. Don't sposed to
Speaker 2: nature lived in Marshie. Don't forget that.
Speaker 3: That's my dog, you know, you know my nigga. You
Speaker 3: do it for Mars, you know the right to be
Speaker 3: I have to be do so much. Niggas thought I
Speaker 3: was some massie yo.
Speaker 7: I hope right, Like, no, just smoke with you do
Speaker 7: growing up street beef Beef, that's my auntimous, that's my door.
Speaker 3: Nigga used to battle. He told me that that's my nigga.
Speaker 3: We went to high school together. World, that's my that's
Speaker 3: my brother, my brother. I used to be in massie
Speaker 3: with him so much. Nigga sweat to this day from Masie.
Speaker 2: Right, that's crazy, my nigga with you. He's always been
Speaker 2: nice too, man. I'm I'm a helping put ith it
Speaker 2: out now. He's still talking that ship you've been always.
Speaker 2: He go missing for a minute.
Speaker 7: I'm saying, you know, Marcie, niggas a disappear, like yo,
Speaker 7: what you were saying, Like I was in.
Speaker 2: North Dakota for guns home and all. Yeah, I know
Speaker 2: that's crazy. That's my nigga. I ain't no Cormega Nation.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with Nature only because of the impact
Speaker 6: he had on me. I'm I'm a I'm a fan
Speaker 6: of both of them niggas for real, but I did
Speaker 6: a recommendation now recently. I love I love both of
Speaker 6: the niggas there but I'll go to nature on this
Speaker 6: one because you know we just have a uh close relationship.
Speaker 7: Biased before you call make it that nice though, before
Speaker 7: y'all go to your next question. Two One Brooklyn nigga
Speaker 7: one Queen's nigga got the illness versus on your queen's
Speaker 7: niggas records man, because nature on your record hand, I
Speaker 7: said one Brooklyn one queens a z from Brooklyn.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Yeah, he was claiming us
Speaker 2: know he was he was. I know he was from
Speaker 2: the East. He was not.
Speaker 7: He was a.
Speaker 2: Ship too. They go all deep or m O P
Speaker 2: O Christ ship. This is not nice. But see, I
Speaker 2: gotta I see I love m O P.
Speaker 6: But I gotta go with Mob not only on some
Speaker 6: queen ship because Prodigy is in my top five.
Speaker 2: He's a big part of wide rap out rap. He influenced.
Speaker 6: If you're looking at my current ship, a lot of
Speaker 6: his lyrics is quoted in my ship now words, So
Speaker 6: I gotta go with that.
Speaker 7: Nice he was just so different with this ship like
Speaker 7: word like I was a thank you, that was my
Speaker 7: that was my guy too. So I got I got
Speaker 7: to go with the Mob on that.
Speaker 8: M O P.
Speaker 2: Ready no, see, he got the he got the best
Speaker 2: intro to a verse. I break ribs. I said that
Speaker 2: so many times, a little forward the start of averse.
Speaker 7: That man, radio, Yeah, podcast or radio podcast radio meaning
Speaker 7: I'm on hand and you see.
Speaker 2: Great talking about radio. Nothing Laurence Hill or mister Ellie's
Speaker 2: mm hmm. That's not for either. God damn who's first?
Speaker 2: He was first? No, I would think, well, Missy was
Speaker 2: writing probably around the same time.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna say Lauryn Hill, though as the literacy, she's
Speaker 6: just too She's just too Laurence Hill to not say
Speaker 6: Lauren Hill. And she's on the road desire, that's a
Speaker 6: big fact. Designer trying to stay serd.
Speaker 7: You want to say on the roads, you gotta speaking.
Speaker 2: It's but different Buster Rhymes or Eminem.
Speaker 6: I'm gonna have to go with Damn bust my nigga too, though,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna go with him because he influenced my style
Speaker 6: the same way. I'm a combination of like Prodigy, eminem Nas,
Speaker 6: Jada Royce, and jay Z.
Speaker 2: You're sure it's not because you don't Buster had a fight, No,
Speaker 2: I love I love bustering. Man had a fight where
Speaker 2: I was you it's gonna be first got cool me
Speaker 2: and bust sometimes high school relationship that I was young
Speaker 2: and just hood with it, and I ain't understand his
Speaker 2: industry ship.
Speaker 7: And I came to I was calling him to come
Speaker 7: to the studio just after I left school, and I'm
Speaker 7: just trying to Now I'm be a rapper, but I'm
Speaker 7: not on I'm in an industry at all.
Speaker 6: I'm still like in the hood doing what I'm doing.
Speaker 6: And I guess he wasn't answering the phone, so I
Speaker 6: just popped up, and he felt the way that I
Speaker 6: just popped up. I don't know the rules of his
Speaker 6: industry ship. He was like, so I'm like, yo, I'm
Speaker 6: right away. Yeah, and I'm like this this hood and
Speaker 6: just that's it, just hood. I'm like, yo, I'm calling
Speaker 6: your phone. Your answers. I just popped up and he
Speaker 6: said yeah, but I answer. I'm like, yeah, that's why
Speaker 6: I poppedupnigga. So he's talking to me trying to explain it.
Speaker 6: But when he's explaining it, he kind of close to
Speaker 6: my face. I don't know how to take this, so
Speaker 6: I'm just like I might making eye contact, so I
Speaker 6: know this is time for me to swing, but somebody
Speaker 6: it's because.
Speaker 2: It's not equating in my brain. But I can't figure
Speaker 2: this out.
Speaker 6: I'm like somebody else talking just some swing, but it's
Speaker 6: a buster, so I can't swing.
Speaker 2: I'm like, now like an eye contact. I don't know
Speaker 2: what to do.
Speaker 6: So then he's but he's not moving. So I said,
Speaker 6: I need five feet because I can't think I need
Speaker 6: not move.
Speaker 2: He still right here. I'm like, I need I'm saying
Speaker 2: that I need five feet and he's not moving.
Speaker 6: He's still like making his point, but he's a low
Speaker 6: but aggressive but right here, I'm like a nigga. I
Speaker 6: need five feet. My brain can't function, and I know
Speaker 6: it's three big security guards over here.
Speaker 2: I pop off.
Speaker 7: I'm a die and it's this before COVID. This COVID
Speaker 7: is six feet before Bosive only five and he wasn't moving.
Speaker 7: So I just said, fuck, let's go outside. I just
Speaker 7: I just said, let's go outside and shoot the fifteen.
Speaker 2: He was like the door right here, and then the
Speaker 2: security get mad.
Speaker 6: They get up, three big niggas, and I'm like, the
Speaker 6: way the studio shape is like an L shapes.
Speaker 7: I'm in the corner. I'm like, if they come over here.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna die, nigga. I'm gonna be a soccer ball.
Speaker 6: Like no, like we're really gonna shoot the fifth. We
Speaker 6: gotta go outside with him. So I'm like, now let's
Speaker 6: go outside for us. If I can't get the five feet,
Speaker 6: then let's go outside.
Speaker 2: And he still talked. So I think what I did? Oh?
Speaker 2: I think I think I stepped.
Speaker 6: Off to uh to leave because the security got up
Speaker 6: and then I said something crazy to him and he
Speaker 6: got tight. What he came with elevator with me. He
Speaker 6: came downstairshoot the five. I threw my hands up, he
Speaker 6: held my arms down. Try to explain something else again,
Speaker 6: let me get downstairs to the elevator. Were talking, talking, talking,
Speaker 6: He's trying to make sense out of it. But maybe
Speaker 6: I'm just too young or too hood to understand what
Speaker 6: he's saying. I'm already like a level ten. So I
Speaker 6: said some other smart ship and Boss wasn't being pussy
Speaker 6: about it.
Speaker 2: He's like, we just gonna get it on. So I
Speaker 2: think I hooked off. I swung ship. I swung it
Speaker 2: with you like ho lord, I almost spell myself. And
Speaker 2: to take a shot. I take a shot.
Speaker 7: I'm confused because what's approach with the ultimately this nigga
Speaker 7: from Mona. This is a.
Speaker 2: Like know.
Speaker 6: It was me, That's what I'm saying that it was
Speaker 6: me taking this shit wrong because I don't understand none
Speaker 6: of this ship.
Speaker 2: He probably trying to. He said it.
Speaker 6: He's like, I'm trying to screw you to some business ship.
Speaker 6: You came in here on some hood ship and I'm like, no,
Speaker 6: you can't tell me nothing. That was my attitude.
Speaker 7: It was me.
Speaker 2: I'm liketeen twenty nineteen nineteen, him and Buzz had a
Speaker 2: discovery of YEA, so yeah, I popped on him. He
Speaker 2: swung back.
Speaker 7: We got a ship I thought part of the Knights
Speaker 7: trying to stab and he broke a bottle ship when
Speaker 7: we on New York. He got crazy back then. It's crazy,
Speaker 7: that's all I know. Back then, it's like we're young
Speaker 7: and just you know how to sho go queen Shiit were.
Speaker 2: Split fat this.
Speaker 3: We didn't hurt each other now, but we expect each
Speaker 3: other like like he's like a heart Okay, you know
Speaker 3: what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Okay, he was like, I'm not backing now, but he
Speaker 2: just went and went that's crazy. People got that story.
Speaker 2: Ye'll tell the story. But you know this little nigga
Speaker 2: trying to fight me like yo, he'll he'll tell the story.
Speaker 2: He tell it better than me real.
Speaker 7: But back, I got to give you a props to
Speaker 7: my nigga niggas. Compare you to Eminem man. That that
Speaker 7: mean you you know what I mean. The Penn game
Speaker 7: is super serious.
Speaker 6: They was calling me the black em and n for
Speaker 6: a while. Thank you that that's one of the best
Speaker 6: comments to me. I think is one of the time niggas.
Speaker 6: A lot of my influences was them type of niggas,
Speaker 6: Royce and m both of them niggas influenced my ship too.
Speaker 2: Yeah, so that's a big comment for me. Eminem ship.
Speaker 6: I always want to do a song with him, just
Speaker 6: one nostalgic ship because I look up to him as
Speaker 6: the MC, but then two to see who is get
Speaker 6: the bit of verse like that, something like that like
Speaker 6: now we're gonna have Yeah, we're gonna go hard with
Speaker 6: that A lot of time. I'm gonna make a record
Speaker 6: though records. I'm not trying to get the best firs.
Speaker 6: I'm trying to make the best record, best record. Now
Speaker 6: we gotta get the best verse blood spot niggas is personal.
Speaker 2: Even he's that's what he's. That's a fact. He's coming
Speaker 2: to smoke ship. You're right now.
Speaker 6: Uh Queen Latifa all eve mm hmmm. Queen Tiva's first.
Speaker 6: You gotta give it the Queen to the Queen. Where
Speaker 6: we're going to go, Queen la Tiva. That's that's that's
Speaker 6: that's a crazy one people. I was just saying, Queen
Speaker 6: La Tiva is just so monumental. Always look at where
Speaker 6: you take your career too. You take this, this fame ship,
Speaker 6: this music ship, and whill you go after that? It matters,
Speaker 6: Like what I did with this rink champions y'all. Hope
Speaker 6: y'all get enough problems. Hope y'all get enough basic.
Speaker 3: When you take what you got already and passes hill
Speaker 3: the next step, it's like hip hop and took hip
Speaker 3: hop with her.
Speaker 6: Yeah, she got like a fucking big movie studio and
Speaker 6: it was it Florida Atlanta or something. She has some
Speaker 6: scalss superstar ship like alien commercials like the fun like
Speaker 6: that's you gotta champion that.
Speaker 2: So we're gonna go with on that. Pete Rock Primo,
Speaker 2: why why do we do all these things?
Speaker 6: We have more looking, we have more liquor. Yeah, he
Speaker 6: solo shout to both of them. They both the bros.
Speaker 2: Mm hmm hm.
Speaker 7: The coups a getting tall. She's gonna be rough after that.
Speaker 7: It's gonna be rough ship stagging up. We need a
Speaker 7: new Jack City, the Zion. You so what New Jack
Speaker 7: City or Juice? New Jack City or Juice? Might go
Speaker 7: with juice real for real? M hmm, juice, might I
Speaker 7: might go with damn hold on, Jack City is juice.
Speaker 7: I'm just going off.
Speaker 2: What was more? Was more impact.
Speaker 7: York?
Speaker 2: Yeah, we claimed New Jack City, but that wasn't New York.
Speaker 2: Film wasn't. I wasn't. It wasn't New York. That wasn't
Speaker 2: the story based on New York. It was Detroit. Jack City.
Speaker 2: I thought it was. I thought it was a bunch
Speaker 2: of difference about Detroit Detroit.
Speaker 6: Oh, then that's the reason why I picked Juice took
Speaker 6: my first answer.
Speaker 2: No, New Jack City was about Detroit.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I didn't know that.
Speaker 2: I keep I thought that was some hallom ship. But
Speaker 2: mister said he knew that. No, no, he I was
Speaker 2: about to say, get the funk out here.
Speaker 3: I didn't know that that that. I thought that was
Speaker 3: some some some hallm ship. They shot it in Hall
Speaker 3: looked like that. They shot it in the parts of
Speaker 3: it in New York. But it's based on the crew in.
Speaker 7: Detroit did not know that that was the jewel right there.
Speaker 7: So Jews for sure s it upright, bringing them Barry.
Speaker 2: Jo rule or l ll.
Speaker 7: I think that's the easy one. You gotta go ll
Speaker 7: on that. Yeah, yeah, l is a is a war. Yeah,
Speaker 7: that's a fact.
Speaker 6: That's the big queens that cares rock him, caress of
Speaker 6: rock him.
Speaker 2: Damn damn. That's a good one too. Ship.
Speaker 7: Uh, I might go and rock him though, because I
Speaker 7: think I probably listened to more all that that influenced
Speaker 7: my type of ship.
Speaker 2: You realized rock him never cursed?
Speaker 6: Then really no, somebody else told me that, Yeah, you
Speaker 6: never never never never never cursed. Somebody told me that
Speaker 6: the hardest bars that's fucking nuts never cursed.
Speaker 7: Two points that because I curse to fucking much. One
Speaker 7: d m C or Beastie Boys run DMC trip called
Speaker 7: quest of Brand Nubian Tribe probably trib.
Speaker 3: You're probably kind of fucks me up, though, you gotta
Speaker 3: say you probably you got it. It's like you're thinking
Speaker 3: and like I try, okay, loyalty or respect.
Speaker 7: Respect, because damn, that's a good ass question to loyalty
Speaker 7: of respect.
Speaker 6: I need my respect you. I need loyalty too. But
Speaker 6: a nigga could respect you or a woman could respect
Speaker 6: you and still be disloyal. And I guess that the
Speaker 6: person's is loyal they respect you, So maybe loyalty.
Speaker 5: Then where you can have both. Nobody want to just
Speaker 5: say this is the only time we really think you
Speaker 5: should drink. I look, we need both. We need both,
Speaker 5: take not one.
Speaker 4: What are you?
Speaker 7: What is this?
Speaker 2: I don't know, man.
Speaker 3: This ship is wild tall stress nuts. This ship is
Speaker 3: inspired by real stress nuts. This should get any taller.
Speaker 2: Now do you think that bars are officially back? Hell?
Speaker 2: Yeah yeah. Let me tell you something, man, And.
Speaker 6: That's why I want to shout out to the Gazelda
Speaker 6: niggas too and thirty eight Special.
Speaker 2: I didn't even get to mention that man that niggas. Yeah,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna get to that for sure. That out. You
Speaker 2: know he did that, he did, he did the whole
Speaker 2: album thirty eight I know Benny bunch of uh talking
Speaker 2: about executive producer.
Speaker 6: No, he he executive produced. To stop calling our content, Okay,
Speaker 6: his big homie uh DJ Shade God Blessed, pass Away Recip.
Speaker 6: He produced the whole album and I finished out and
Speaker 6: they crib and that shit came out retarded too. But
Speaker 6: when they got hot, all of my rap shit started
Speaker 6: to make money and work and shit like that. Like
Speaker 6: before that Keep Hunter, I was hustlings. I was fifteen
Speaker 6: years old. Never thought I would have been clean out
Speaker 6: of the street ever unless you had a hit record
Speaker 6: or raty and all of the shit. And I'm like,
Speaker 6: I don't see myself getting a top forty radio ad
Speaker 6: right now because of the way this shit went for
Speaker 6: my career. But I never thought I was gonna actually
Speaker 6: be out of the street and just wrap being a rapper.
Speaker 6: After they came out, all my rappers started to sell.
Speaker 6: Then I met thirty eight Special and he's such a
Speaker 6: solid nig You know, niggas see you making mistakes and
Speaker 6: not tell you shit, just watch you slop around. But like,
Speaker 6: I ain't helping a nigga, especially held Bent helping his people,
Speaker 6: and the nigga's very smart bunness wives with this ship
Speaker 6: and the way business deal is a structured for underground
Speaker 6: rap verse mainstream Raper's totally two it's two different deals,
Speaker 6: two different worlds. Niggas still selling vinyl, they selling Hella
Speaker 6: Verse tickets, all in touring, different sales. One special really
Speaker 6: hit me to the business and he literally said, Graft,
Speaker 6: you put the same amount of time into this music
Speaker 6: ship that you put into the street ship.
Speaker 2: You'll make the same amount of money. I promise you.
Speaker 2: I was like, I don't see how, Please explain, And
Speaker 2: he explained and drilled it in my head. Nigga.
Speaker 6: He made sure I understood the nature of the business
Speaker 6: and where I was at in it and how important
Speaker 6: I was and what I had to do to really
Speaker 6: reach the next level career wise in that lane. And
Speaker 6: ever since then, I was like, really being successful in
Speaker 6: this lane and the streets is in the past for me,
Speaker 6: and for me, that was something I had to say, congratulates,
Speaker 6: take a shot for that.
Speaker 2: God damn it, because I didn't anyway, I have to
Speaker 2: treat what's that for you? To accept that from him?
Speaker 2: Did you feel that you were maybe not a different
Speaker 2: level than that? Yeah? Wow, wild times over head drink champs.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying. Good, he was still successful.
Speaker 6: He told me the ship in a mansion, Nigga. He
Speaker 6: got a big as off rap. He was like, none
Speaker 6: of this ship the street. This ship is from rap.
Speaker 6: I'm like, yo, you pay for this house with bars,
Speaker 6: there's no hit register, nigga. I bought this house off
Speaker 6: music man. She got hated flaws but sad she living
Speaker 6: room table, all this good ship off rap. I was like, oh,
Speaker 6: I'm sold, nigga.
Speaker 2: How does this happen.
Speaker 3: That no people nine in them like they don't. They
Speaker 3: don't see it until they see it, like it's real money.
Speaker 2: And forbes Man's respect.
Speaker 6: That's a big fact. I wanted to chect with until something. Yeah,
Speaker 6: I want to get with something left.
Speaker 7: So straight underground ship that's real ship goes to show
Speaker 7: you the level of market power that the streets really has.
Speaker 2: It's just that when you focus on the mation you
Speaker 2: might not get to see it.
Speaker 6: So once he broke that down, I understood the binness wise,
Speaker 6: how to deal destruction and the whole ship. I was like, oh, ship,
Speaker 6: life is different, Like this is real ship, and that
Speaker 6: ship literally changed my life. So I always salute specially
Speaker 6: every chance I get, because I'm like, I'm literally making
Speaker 6: a living off music, nigga. But in my brain it
Speaker 6: was not I couldn't imagine it, nigga, like, how, so
Speaker 6: what did he force you to change?
Speaker 7: Like?
Speaker 2: What changing you? From the point that he spoke to
Speaker 2: it was the business.
Speaker 6: He implemented so many tools business in my head that
Speaker 6: I was talking to execus different. I'm walking to these
Speaker 6: in these in these meetings, arm of different information. So
Speaker 6: that shit I'm saying, now my deal is structured way
Speaker 6: better you got. I got certain execs and lawyers started
Speaker 6: like uh uh uh because they're not expecting an artist
Speaker 6: to notice, you know what I'm trying to say.
Speaker 2: So it was just information. Nik empowered me in information.
Speaker 6: I went in them in the offices talking way different,
Speaker 6: being with way better situations. I was like, oh, this
Speaker 6: is the real shit nigga because he's more like he's
Speaker 6: more like on the executive side, but niggas he working
Speaker 6: with because he understands the structure of the business in
Speaker 6: that realm, you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So props to that nigga word he changed anything for me.
Speaker 6: I keep it a buck business wise, like how I
Speaker 6: approach shit different?
Speaker 5: And you're still independent? Correct, Yeah, that's a question that
Speaker 5: we should have asked independent of major.
Speaker 6: I was take independent unless you have the right major,
Speaker 6: because the average record deal to me is a bad
Speaker 6: fucking loan.
Speaker 2: It's a bad deal.
Speaker 7: All these stills a dependent, It's a bad twenty years
Speaker 7: ago major today.
Speaker 2: If you want to make some money, you better stay in.
Speaker 7: Facts because I can sell a tenth of the records
Speaker 7: that let's say, uh Meek or whoever sales, and probably
Speaker 7: make more money off my ship, depending like the actual
Speaker 7: sales of the music, Because'm gonna get eighty to ninety
Speaker 7: percent of the dollar. Mean, while the average that you
Speaker 7: might be getting fifteen cents, and that labels taking eighty
Speaker 7: five cents, which is fucking as natgas.
Speaker 6: That niggas don't create shit, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So you're paying back. It's a bad loan my niggas.
Speaker 6: So unless you got the kind of deal with they
Speaker 6: gonna spend hell of marketing dollars on you to make
Speaker 6: you famous. With that fame could take you to do
Speaker 6: up ship with your with your with your brand. Cool
Speaker 6: but otherwise not independence.
Speaker 3: Man, I'm making my bread. I'm cool word. I'm taking
Speaker 3: major the time.
Speaker 8: Not bad.
Speaker 3: Getting the right deals though it's gonna cast you out.
Speaker 3: I'm saying, Yeah, the right deal major and make some money.
Speaker 2: You gotta go.
Speaker 3: You gotta be the right there right dere major. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you got to negotiate and you got in the major
Speaker 3: labels in a different time, right when there was so
Speaker 3: much money.
Speaker 5: Just people were just like, why you dig a crack
Speaker 5: as they'll want to smoke crack because they remember that
Speaker 5: first time. Yeah, I'm saying something. I started independent wor report.
Speaker 5: Everyone says, it's a classic. Everyone said, man, but that
Speaker 5: was back then.
Speaker 2: That was back then. But you was a kid, man,
Speaker 2: what do you mean? I didn't matter. I was a
Speaker 2: kid and I didn't weave no benefits over that ship.
Speaker 2: But listen.
Speaker 5: Later, what I'm saying is when you independent, you don't
Speaker 5: you don't get that. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: Like I'm talking about back then, I'm not talking about now.
Speaker 2: Different than now. It's different because we didn't have direct
Speaker 2: to consume on back then.
Speaker 5: You acid for me to get speaking about London earlier,
Speaker 5: in order for us to get those records to London,
Speaker 5: we actually physically had to go there, right right, Like
Speaker 5: you know what I mean.
Speaker 2: So it's different. So, yeah, it's different.
Speaker 7: That bad business still got you where you are today.
Speaker 2: About to say that trying to get I can't say
Speaker 2: that because a bad deal to get you a right.
Speaker 2: I didn't say the bad deal.
Speaker 7: I'm saying I didn't benefit off of it, meaning intentially, yeah,
Speaker 7: financially like it's.
Speaker 3: A smart for Imagine if you would have signed a
Speaker 3: deal as CNN at that time frame, a major record deal,
Speaker 3: maybe you got dope advance and the record doesn't sell,
Speaker 3: and the end of your career and you're tied to
Speaker 3: a major label five albums and you're not here today, exactly.
Speaker 7: Right, in that same dilemma, That's how it was Capitol
Speaker 7: one to signed me two fifty hole gave out seventy
Speaker 7: five bands. My manager looked at me like I was
Speaker 7: retarded taking seventy five. I say, yeah, but you know
Speaker 7: the difference whole kid right, how to sign to them niggas,
Speaker 7: I would be here.
Speaker 2: Exactly so was out none of that. That's the reason,
Speaker 2: you know what I'm saying. So was at that situation
Speaker 2: you choose the homies over the money.
Speaker 5: I mean, you know what, You're right, You're right. I mean,
Speaker 5: I mean in your case, that's your brother. You know
Speaker 5: what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So you know, I remember, my man, that you're saying
Speaker 7: or even saying his name. But I remember him saying, Yo,
Speaker 7: this rocker fella ship is just a dream.
Speaker 2: What if it never happens? Wow a name, Like what
Speaker 2: if it never happens? I was like, the fuck it.
Speaker 2: I will never be on though, leave the dog, the
Speaker 2: dog whatever.
Speaker 8: You say.
Speaker 2: A unique situation though, that was your friend. Yeah, but
Speaker 2: still Nigga's gonna say, I ain't just garbage.
Speaker 7: Get him out of here right right as we don't
Speaker 7: all been back on the green. Garbage can't selling them packs.
Speaker 2: That's a fact. So so let me ask you.
Speaker 5: I know we spoke about it earlier, you being on
Speaker 5: being signed to the Rock and then you hearing at
Speaker 5: this trimorial, what did you?
Speaker 2: What did your first thing?
Speaker 5: That's the ghost of Rockefeller right, So you you you you,
Speaker 5: and you physically signed the contract.
Speaker 7: I was in the middle of signing the contract, like
Speaker 7: we're still reading it, Nigga, like theas like I wrote
Speaker 7: like one let like the p I didn't get to
Speaker 7: the eighth yet. Like so when I heard it was turmoil,
Speaker 7: I didn't think it was gonna affect us like that.
Speaker 2: I didn't. I didn't.
Speaker 7: I couldn't imagine not going the distance with the rock.
Speaker 7: It was just the dream, you living your dream. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 7: this is great.
Speaker 3: When it didn't happen, I was like, oh this this
Speaker 3: is It happened so fast I coun't even protest it
Speaker 3: because right as soon.
Speaker 6: As it happened, Dame started name Dame Dash music group.
Speaker 6: We went over to Death Jam flew to Porto Rico
Speaker 6: to that big ass conference. All this ship was happening,
Speaker 6: like back to back. So it's like, and I'm still
Speaker 6: working as independientally.
Speaker 2: You ain't getting the jet, but you flew out there. Yeah,
Speaker 2: we're still flying private. You know, you listen first then
Speaker 2: put us first class. We was in the B Group.
Speaker 7: We flew.
Speaker 2: Coke was on some bullshit when he said, when you
Speaker 2: wrote that verse you want tour a million hours, I
Speaker 2: fly over your bus. That's about me, Like.
Speaker 8: You're just like.
Speaker 2: This, I'm telling you. I was in the group. I
Speaker 2: was in the B Group my whole life. Have you
Speaker 2: ever been in the B group Jet? I was on
Speaker 2: the B group Jet. By the way, I didn't even
Speaker 2: know that the Hunger tour member he did the Hanger
Speaker 2: tour for his album.
Speaker 7: He had a private jetg just for him and his crew,
Speaker 7: and then he had a jet for the band.
Speaker 15: You know what, Bleak had the ride the band. So
Speaker 15: I'm like, yo, ho wait wait the band? Yeah, my niggas,
Speaker 15: all of us. Who was in the B group with me?
Speaker 7: Hook but listen, I wanted to be in the A
Speaker 7: group something saying, hangar tour, I ain't really got to work.
Speaker 2: Why am I on this jay?
Speaker 7: He like, yo, just in case they act up, I
Speaker 7: need somebody there that got knowledge that can hold it down.
Speaker 7: You ever seen niggas have a fight? Sixty thousand feet
Speaker 7: in there? These niggas was on the chest fighting, rumble it.
Speaker 7: They was giving out shots and ship like drink champs.
Speaker 7: Before this willy talk about who got who had the
Speaker 7: best set? Who you know who was talking niggas like
Speaker 7: now better than you. These niggas started fighting the way
Speaker 7: the flight of tenders is looking at me like, yo,
Speaker 7: break it up, and I'm looking at them, what's.
Speaker 2: The safety precautions?
Speaker 7: I'm not so when we land, I'm telling Hole, I'm like, yo,
Speaker 7: these niggas in there fight, and he like, that's why
Speaker 7: I got you on it.
Speaker 2: Control that ship. I won't go home.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I was real so all that first class Dan
Speaker 7: might have looked out because Dame was on that. You know,
Speaker 7: we're smoking on the jet hole like like that ship.
Speaker 7: If you want, you gotta have a parachute.
Speaker 2: We just want to. Dame sent me to Japan first, everywhere,
Speaker 2: all over all places off. Dame was music group.
Speaker 5: That's when we're still with the rock. Oh yeah, this
Speaker 5: is left money. It was so close listen, I don't.
Speaker 2: Remember, but Dame was Dame was. It was cool.
Speaker 7: James a project friend that's a real project friend that
Speaker 7: no matter how much money he got, he ain't letting
Speaker 7: the project side where you and him go like if
Speaker 7: he know I got weed on me going through the airport.
Speaker 7: He used to be like as a walking he was saying.
Speaker 7: I'd be like, yo, my nigga, what you doing? Like Yo,
Speaker 7: he was in Paris.
Speaker 2: He's like, you look like you're gonna blow up, motherfucker.
Speaker 2: So I'm like, Yo, my nigga, chill.
Speaker 7: You trying to get me Corey like nah, But I'm
Speaker 7: just saying you how the motherfucker?
Speaker 2: Like you're bringing weed through the airport. So I'm like, Jay, chill,
Speaker 2: it's me Why you try to rat on me? Now?
Speaker 2: I'm telling you he's no bros get crazy with the honey.
Speaker 2: I didn't get a chance to get that close to Jay.
Speaker 2: I was me and Dame got close. Give me the pack. Yeah,
Speaker 2: damn Dame.
Speaker 16: Like what we're going through security believed right, Yea, Dame.
Speaker 2: Bro friends error nigga trying to bring opens like, yeah,
Speaker 2: we bro cast not me, nigga.
Speaker 5: I'm going to nag you want me miss something him
Speaker 5: and something big, It's gonna be mad at me. I'm
Speaker 5: not saying Armadale now because I haven't tasted the new Armadale.
Speaker 5: I got a bottle break out new Armadeale that was
Speaker 5: rubber outcome with the Armadada, Yo.
Speaker 2: Had the heart to say this is the worst. That
Speaker 2: is bad. That ship.
Speaker 5: You could taste the dirt in that motherfucker like you
Speaker 5: could hit the ship. And then they right there like, yo,
Speaker 5: that's it's good right and you just I've just lied
Speaker 5: to them the whole time.
Speaker 2: Yea. Back then it was cool. It was like cool,
Speaker 2: do your dig with that. But but they killed the industry.
Speaker 2: The industry was like this doing. They gave me. They
Speaker 2: gave me so much boxes and that should had the
Speaker 2: whole hood. Little Varmadale. I had a box in the
Speaker 2: trunk armade. You get Armadale, You get Armadale. The hood
Speaker 2: ignored them as fucked up. The hood just kept drinking.
Speaker 2: It was like that, you know.
Speaker 7: I let you know when the liquor come in doing bad.
Speaker 7: When they just got cases to give away. Nobody ain't
Speaker 7: buying that show.
Speaker 2: I thought they was no. No, like you think about it,
Speaker 2: you're just getting them aces.
Speaker 7: You didn't want them ship different, They just giving ship away, shipped,
Speaker 7: just sitting the cases. Say he got the drake and
Speaker 7: we thought he was special. Damn trying cases in my
Speaker 7: crip too. Remember all my cousins love all midell. But
Speaker 7: to me, it was like a yea, I think it's
Speaker 7: take this shot.
Speaker 2: Thought that. Yeah. So let me ask you straight up,
Speaker 2: broh mm hmm. Do you think you was black ball?
Speaker 2: Straight up?
Speaker 5: He doesn't get a quick time. Yeah, get a shot
Speaker 5: because I want I want the real ship.
Speaker 2: I get it.
Speaker 3: I want the real ship. Drink chances, nigga bucket here.
Speaker 3: Yeah'm gonna keep it honere.
Speaker 6: Yeah, I'd have been out, have been rich, been out
Speaker 6: the street, different life, employed all my niggas all but
Speaker 6: who yeah black yeah, who you think have that much
Speaker 6: power that coming at that time.
Speaker 2: See, I don't want to say it like that because
Speaker 2: then it seems like who had that. It's not.
Speaker 6: It wasn't one individual. It was like, collectively, we're just
Speaker 6: not fucking with these niggass on do not disturb. We're
Speaker 6: just not fucking with these niggas based on this whole
Speaker 6: you're as a whole, us as a whole, to keep
Speaker 6: it honted.
Speaker 2: Us as a whole.
Speaker 6: It just was like, we're just not fucking with nothing
Speaker 6: that's coming from this way based on what relationship we
Speaker 6: have with fifty. So it's not like I can say,
Speaker 6: like a nigga's like, oh, fifty black ball y'all. Now,
Speaker 6: I can't say it like that. I'm not saying he
Speaker 6: went out his way too personally. I didn't do that.
Speaker 7: But he does make niggas true side, that's just how
Speaker 7: that's who he polarizes people that just wait right now, yeah, drink,
Speaker 7: it's the big.
Speaker 2: When you were that level of an artiste.
Speaker 6: Yeah, so it's like and the only way to heard
Speaker 6: the niggas hurt him in his pockets and know I
Speaker 6: mean so the industry at that time was more gatekeeping.
Speaker 6: It wasn't like Oh, I could just go independent and
Speaker 6: blow the funk up and.
Speaker 8: On on it.
Speaker 2: It was a smaller industry.
Speaker 6: It was gate it was gate cap. If you ain't
Speaker 6: have the powers that be behind you, you just not
Speaker 6: getting on, nigga.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: No matter how much money you try to be in
Speaker 6: the streets, you can't just go fucking do pay all
Speaker 6: over everybody and get on. It's not that's not what
Speaker 6: the game was. You can try that like that the mother.
Speaker 6: So yeah, it was a lot of hell of resistance, nigga.
Speaker 6: It was like I'm here today because I just got
Speaker 6: enough talent and enough love from people.
Speaker 2: Superst like I go through.
Speaker 6: I don't know how to relax, Nigga Like this, like
Speaker 6: people be like, oh, you're an animal, you work all day.
Speaker 6: It sounds like a comment, but it's really not. I
Speaker 6: don't know how to relax. I don't know how to
Speaker 6: stop working.
Speaker 7: I work on vacation, Niggas a fact, we shot the
Speaker 7: vin You was on the tour with Joint and Lucas
Speaker 7: the next day. Hold on what it ain't even say
Speaker 7: going on tour, I was going, I don't know how
Speaker 7: to stop crazy world up shout the Joiner too, and
Speaker 7: was you also on tour with Bennie and them?
Speaker 2: I was on Bennie. I did two tours with Bennie
Speaker 2: and then my last tour we just just ended, was
Speaker 2: joining Lucas. But I do I'm more tours than me.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I don't know. I don't
Speaker 2: know how to turn it off. Niggas ain't listen today.
Speaker 2: Money better than them money touring right and merchant all that. Yeah,
Speaker 2: but I'm making money now, got about it. Look, look
Speaker 2: got screwed. They got got right the company money. It
Speaker 2: wasn't nothing bag in the responsor what's up part of
Speaker 2: when we was rot going towards it wasn't nothing but
Speaker 2: g t PS. That's it.
Speaker 7: Gets turned promoter, that's it. That's someone to they bred up,
Speaker 7: just put up party, had a song, you know when
Speaker 7: we got up to the spot. Niggas like the G
Speaker 7: T G T P so in the car right, you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying. So today you got.
Speaker 3: Corporate venues, Ticketmaster, Yeah, bro, you can gotg.
Speaker 2: But that's that's got the can does. Look that's why
Speaker 2: I say today today it's.
Speaker 6: Easier to go independent of your own thing because of
Speaker 6: all these outlets and companies creative, well yeah you could do,
Speaker 6: like even joining lucas a good example. He was signed
Speaker 6: on Major at first year. They help him get the fame.
Speaker 6: But then he took that notoriety and his talent took
Speaker 6: on Independent. Now he's stupid, fucking rich.
Speaker 2: Took all the money.
Speaker 6: The money the label would have been making off his
Speaker 6: records go in his pocket. That nigga way up, nigga,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So he got the bread
Speaker 6: and the talent and the skills in the records. You
Speaker 6: can't tell that nigga nothing right now, his videos be
Speaker 6: the ills he's created.
Speaker 17: You know.
Speaker 6: Creative That niggas sayst he edits his own videos. My nigga,
Speaker 6: his man, my man trasho out the traft shoots it.
Speaker 6: He edited the ship himself. The nigga thinks of the
Speaker 6: videos first, then write the song. His brain is different
Speaker 6: a niggas. The old nigga man shout out to joint
Speaker 6: of the word. But the independent money is where it's
Speaker 6: never been at today. Like that's why I was out
Speaker 6: shooting in Deependence over Major. Unless the deal is right, you.
Speaker 2: Remember he had Now where you get it from Sunburn.
Speaker 2: My people at Sunburn, Big you up, go ahead.
Speaker 7: I remember he had Liverpool drama when he first came out.
Speaker 2: Well, who Joe Buttons? Oh I remember that?
Speaker 18: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Remember that? Yeah, been Joe Butts.
Speaker 7: When they first came out, Joe Buddens just was saying
Speaker 7: he retired better than the game. He was like, yeah,
Speaker 7: retired better than ninety seven percent of the industry.
Speaker 6: I'm good now hecause he up now he was probably
Speaker 6: he probably made more money as a retiree of rapp
Speaker 6: than he was.
Speaker 2: And he's inner ship listen Nor was telling me numbers.
Speaker 2: I'm damn. He said, get down down, get damn.
Speaker 6: I guess I guess you fallow the fact that me
Speaker 6: and Joe that it was just wrapped though, like it's
Speaker 6: like he took the style or whatever. And then like
Speaker 6: when when I was on Sony, they were saying they
Speaker 6: were so they were so they were so bent out
Speaker 6: of shape that he took that, he took my style
Speaker 6: and they they said.
Speaker 2: Wait, hold on time again, Yeah, he said, he said
Speaker 2: Joe back then, Yeah, like do you feel that anybody feel?
Speaker 7: Yeah? It was they just smoked because it was a
Speaker 7: time when they first came out, Joe Buttons just was
Speaker 7: coming out. Draft was just coming out, and the whole
Speaker 7: talk of New York was like, Yo, somebody grabs say
Speaker 7: he stole his staff.
Speaker 6: Not the funny thing. I wasn't even saying that at first.
Speaker 6: What happened is Sony said it to me. They said
Speaker 6: when they signed me and gave me this big ass deal,
Speaker 6: that was like, well, we feel Joe Budden kind of
Speaker 6: took your sound and we signed We thought we thought
Speaker 6: you were special, but now there's two of y'all. Then
Speaker 6: wouldn't know what to do with you now. So basically,
Speaker 6: if the deal wasn't done, they wouldn't sign me. That's
Speaker 6: what I was like, i'mna have to kill this nigger
Speaker 6: because I was just I was was already out.
Speaker 2: That was the second one. He was focused out focus.
Speaker 2: I was working both. That's how I met you, and
Speaker 2: I was working Deaf Gym at the same time, so
Speaker 2: that that's when I got out independ it.
Speaker 6: But I wasn't even tight at the style thing until
Speaker 6: I realized it would have coasted me my deal. If
Speaker 6: deal wasn't done because they had a problem with it,
Speaker 6: was like, well what do we do now? Like if
Speaker 6: there wasn't done, they would, they would have droped. They
Speaker 6: were not stunding and no more it's two of them. Fuck,
Speaker 6: I mean not specially no more that said they were
Speaker 6: treating it when a nigga, when he did with like,
Speaker 6: you know what I mean, so real quick, put a
Speaker 6: pin in this. I want to take how.
Speaker 3: Nostalgic though that is that a label would even say
Speaker 3: there's two of y'all. We might not assigned y'all. Now,
Speaker 3: that would never happen, y'all. We got seventeen of y'all. Yeah,
Speaker 3: you think about it. Kendrick and Drake is right now
Speaker 3: on the same label. No, but that's not what I'm
Speaker 3: talking about about that styles, you know how.
Speaker 5: Like no, what I'm saying, I'm just giving you an
Speaker 5: example of what's happening right now is they're both on
Speaker 5: the same label.
Speaker 18: You know.
Speaker 2: You know Universal wins this whole beat. Oh yeah, they
Speaker 2: say that one and Drake you say Universal, sir, right,
Speaker 2: that's right, say Universal. That's a fact I killed it.
Speaker 2: I went too far.
Speaker 3: About that, I feel right, not so good ship, I
Speaker 3: will say, shout the Joe nigga ain't know, but back
Speaker 3: then I was I wanted to fight and everything I
Speaker 3: seen hi Porto Rican, I.
Speaker 2: Was, I was fight jo hold on. I was just
Speaker 2: to reach about it. I wanted to fight. I was
Speaker 2: so mad a whole on cool because you want to
Speaker 2: fight anybody.
Speaker 7: Now Like.
Speaker 2: Back then, were Oliver.
Speaker 7: He said in Puerto Rico like seeing vacation making it
Speaker 7: lit and I've seen him and I was just I
Speaker 7: was trying to go there, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: But I said, I don't know other way to solve.
Speaker 7: I'm fucking twenty years old.
Speaker 2: Yeah, man, like funk that there's no other way to
Speaker 2: sol back then, like we must fight, duel, you know
Speaker 2: what I mean. So that's how I was on it.
Speaker 2: But are we cool now?
Speaker 7: That's my nigga back then was it was no. We
Speaker 7: were trying to cool with nobody. I want to smoke
Speaker 7: with whoever the fuck.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: And back then, coming out of New York, you knew
Speaker 7: it was like it was the toughest nick from young black.
Speaker 7: Remember remember matter where you wait, ma hood? Remember paid
Speaker 7: it for? How alcohol was Like, what's the point of
Speaker 7: having all.
Speaker 2: This power and all least armies, all this money You
Speaker 2: can't if you can't use it. That's kind of how
Speaker 2: I felt. I was like, all this talent, all this
Speaker 2: money and a million gangs with me. I was like,
Speaker 2: I like, how you said paid this fall? Then you said, altphol,
Speaker 2: what really paid it for? Is we goo? Oh facts facts?
Speaker 2: Well Freako Camp, let's just go there. Okay, that's the
Speaker 2: character you played all that line.
Speaker 6: Camp said, let's just go like you know what I'm
Speaker 6: saying that ship that Camp said that ship was like,
Speaker 6: it's the point I can't use it.
Speaker 7: That's that's the mentality I had then. I was thinking,
Speaker 7: Bennis at all.
Speaker 6: I just wanted to be how I didn't give a
Speaker 6: funk about you don't even focus all money. You just
Speaker 6: want to be the best and the realists and whatever
Speaker 6: you have thinking about that, that was you learned.
Speaker 2: To realist coming out of New York kidding me, Yeah,
Speaker 2: it was like that.
Speaker 5: Then Okay, God comes down, said, God comes down, He says,
Speaker 5: he says, graph.
Speaker 2: That's exactly what he's gonna say. Yeah, you want me
Speaker 2: to do God?
Speaker 5: He comes down, He says, he says, listen, I need
Speaker 5: you to make one record, save humanity.
Speaker 2: You got.
Speaker 7: One producer, the pick, and one feature Save humanity. God Damn,
Speaker 7: that's a big job. Yeah, I mean I gotta make
Speaker 7: we Are the World one. No, no, you gotta make
Speaker 7: a classic record. It's not we are the World.
Speaker 3: You have to be.
Speaker 2: You ain't got to be smooches and ship you.
Speaker 5: Ain't you going to do Bennie Hannah like Benny Hills
Speaker 5: and things like that.
Speaker 2: You ain't gonna do that this stress.
Speaker 5: But God says you got one record you graph style,
Speaker 5: graph style, not not. We don't you know you don't need.
Speaker 2: To go pop.
Speaker 5: You make the perfect song. You say perfect song. So
Speaker 5: one rap on perfect one, one feature and one producer.
Speaker 5: Who you going withesh We're gonna shake the world? Maybe,
Speaker 5: motherfucking uh no problems, gotta be gott to be a
Speaker 5: rapper all right in the feature don't matter. You can
Speaker 5: pick Michael Jackson if you want. That's not a bad idea.
Speaker 5: You got okay, stay alive, Stay alive.
Speaker 2: You might have to go like uh uh, maybe do
Speaker 2: likeing Forarrell or something.
Speaker 7: He was gonna say for real smoking he he gonna
Speaker 7: give you that ship that that the world can't deny.
Speaker 6: That's Beyonce be coming with the smoke. You can't lose them.
Speaker 6: Then I'm like, all right, podcast like radio. Now we're
Speaker 6: going already a big fact my friend.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. Next text tell him send
Speaker 2: that family and friends l V. We needed. I don't
Speaker 2: know how to ask that your need that. But that's greaty,
Speaker 2: But hold on, let's let's make some noise for for real.
Speaker 2: That's that's right, that's amazing. Put your name, you push
Speaker 2: your president. I believe like men's fast. He's like, I
Speaker 2: don't quote me on this or clips I think are
Speaker 2: like the I don't just push.
Speaker 5: I believe not the I don't believe it's a clip
Speaker 5: like the spokespeople for this on I believe it's just
Speaker 5: pushing t.
Speaker 2: From whatever whatever. Yeah, I love to see I'll.
Speaker 7: Call it making them kind of moves. And I'm kind
Speaker 7: of spaces. Why Shi is firing for me? I'm within
Speaker 7: almost family.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he called me. I was in Italy. I was
Speaker 2: so happy they focused. I was like, yeah, you know,
Speaker 2: I about to say that.
Speaker 3: I don't know how.
Speaker 2: I don't know that. You might not No, you might
Speaker 2: be on the song. You might have to text him
Speaker 2: for that discount because I can't spend twenty nine on
Speaker 2: tim scuff.
Speaker 5: You guys, I'm forty six years old. I have never
Speaker 5: heard of a Louis Vuitton discount. I did, but you know,
Speaker 5: you know, you know, yeah, I want to Richard really connected.
Speaker 5: That's that's that's different, hell beyond it, Like I got
Speaker 5: people up, you got the people hun.
Speaker 2: I want to say.
Speaker 7: To myself, said, put me down. I just make there's
Speaker 7: no secondhand watch club. You got to put yourself on.
Speaker 7: You gotta go in there and have coffee with Gino women.
Speaker 2: You understand the club. That's what you got on right there.
Speaker 7: You got that.
Speaker 2: You know you can't go wrong.
Speaker 7: I kept it basically, ye playing James you in the Yes,
Speaker 7: you into that. Yeah, I sined some more money being
Speaker 7: more okay, you know man, more money, yeah, yes, yes,
Speaker 7: just blow them no taking a peep's break, have to
Speaker 7: make wrong. So also, also, you did love a hip
Speaker 7: hop at one point I did. I was.
Speaker 2: Boring on their own purpose. I was born on there.
Speaker 2: They paid me, they didn't want to keep paying me.
Speaker 2: The money was great, but the money was good money.
Speaker 2: It was always good money.
Speaker 6: But it ain't even need my stylish show. So I
Speaker 6: kind of wanted to be forgotten for I didn't want
Speaker 6: to like to be a star on that show. You
Speaker 6: is even your personality got to fit that. Yeah, oh
Speaker 6: you got this goofy ship. All ideas I had that
Speaker 6: was cool.
Speaker 2: It was really.
Speaker 6: They was like, yeah, we can do that, we could
Speaker 6: do that. But they wasn't jack noneer that. I was like,
Speaker 6: all right, cool, I was shown. They love guys this drama.
Speaker 6: But I said, look, I'm not mad at the druma.
Speaker 6: I could do that, but let me set up cool ship.
Speaker 6: I could do drama at like, you know, I got
Speaker 6: a factory, I made clothes. I was doing art painting
Speaker 6: on mannequins.
Speaker 2: Nor cool me. It was a cool shit.
Speaker 6: I can suck it up with some bullshit. I'm fine
Speaker 6: with that. They wasn't really. They was just yesterday to
Speaker 6: death for not doing that.
Speaker 2: They tried to get me on that show.
Speaker 7: I told them, niggas, hey, now you're famous, you ain't
Speaker 7: need it, not me.
Speaker 2: Now you ain't getting me a wife. You on the
Speaker 2: argument making up some fakes came. It's like your bleaker
Speaker 2: bad husband. Nah, I can't see.
Speaker 7: You can't go in there with your real wife unless
Speaker 7: y'all understand how to play it.
Speaker 2: Yeah, my wife. People let me take a wife because
Speaker 2: the case out of it, I'm doing it or something.
Speaker 2: I was just kicking it with.
Speaker 6: He been together for two years and then I had another.
Speaker 6: I was like each she was supposed to do some
Speaker 6: kind of like weird she was, now that's a home.
Speaker 6: You were just kind of some kind of wed like
Speaker 6: triangle up ship and make it look good for TV.
Speaker 2: But it was like we made it up. Yeah you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: But if I was really like no actual doing everywhere
Speaker 3: all the way in with an average boot camp and everything, Yes,
Speaker 3: I do every way.
Speaker 2: Oh call me and he's so crazy you can do that,
Speaker 2: I'm saying. Let's he tried to see that he can
Speaker 2: get certainness to get.
Speaker 6: Away with that ship because his personality is like big
Speaker 6: and he can do crazy ship.
Speaker 2: You can't get me. You can't get me to do
Speaker 2: no dumb ship, especially with my lady. Like you can't know.
Speaker 2: But but I'm gonna tell you what love and hip
Speaker 2: hop is. This is what I caught on Like me
Speaker 2: and this is this, this, this is this.
Speaker 5: It's not like they set you up. You give them
Speaker 5: the information. So it's like it's like me and you
Speaker 5: talking right, so we're talking and you like yo, ll
Speaker 5: NOI what up? What they yell cut. As soon as
Speaker 5: they yell cut, our mics is still hot. Yeah, so
Speaker 5: you'll say something like yo, no, Ri, last.
Speaker 2: Night, I got it. You're wired. Yeah.
Speaker 5: So so so I'm sitting there and now I don't
Speaker 5: realize I'm wired. So we're sitting there having a conversation
Speaker 5: and then they yo yo action like so bleak telling
Speaker 5: them about that wild night you had last night, and
Speaker 5: you're like, I didn't tell y'all that we got it
Speaker 5: on film over right, You did say it right, And
Speaker 5: then you're like, oh, that that's when the drama starts.
Speaker 5: So if I didn't know that that off conversation was off,
Speaker 5: they'll pull me to the side to say as soon
Speaker 5: as we tell Bleep that, I attack him.
Speaker 2: And be like, yo, bro, but that night was wild.
Speaker 2: I heard yo. And then you saying You're like, why
Speaker 2: would you say that? You understand I'm saying so they
Speaker 2: don't make the drama they take, they take it.
Speaker 5: I've been in the day room in jail, so I
Speaker 5: know this ship.
Speaker 3: So I'm like, oh, this is this is this is
Speaker 3: too easy. And that's that the benefit. You know, they listening.
Speaker 3: That's why I was feeding them.
Speaker 2: I didn't know that I didn't like that I was
Speaker 2: feeding ship, that's making up ship.
Speaker 7: All.
Speaker 2: Oh, I didn't know that I need. I might be
Speaker 2: telling you need one thing. I might, I might. I'm
Speaker 2: driving this whole ship in my head.
Speaker 8: Know that.
Speaker 2: So yes, now, if you if the mic is all
Speaker 2: but you know you you didn't y me and already
Speaker 2: playing this. We already talking like we don't understand it,
Speaker 2: and I can't you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: I can see the text messages, the phone call right now,
Speaker 7: but I can tell.
Speaker 2: You that you love it.
Speaker 7: But I can tell you this, this is a show
Speaker 7: that exists that's not made yet that we show. Yes,
Speaker 7: we were showing real relationships, like like we're showing like
Speaker 7: if you, if you, if you love your lady, right, your.
Speaker 2: Lady love you.
Speaker 5: It's nothing really the High, right, It's kind of like
Speaker 5: I'm kind of like, nothing really the High. You don't
Speaker 5: need to make up a story, you don't need to
Speaker 5: add on to the story. All you need to do
Speaker 5: is tell that story, right, Like I know a show
Speaker 5: like that, I would do that because that's real. It's
Speaker 5: not like I gotta find drama protect myself with some bulls.
Speaker 5: Like that's real life, right, like me, like me, I
Speaker 5: hang out with other married couples, like it's just not
Speaker 5: they boring?
Speaker 2: Who other married couples?
Speaker 10: Really?
Speaker 2: My wife co work of friends out go to Disney
Speaker 2: World all the time. We don't even want to go
Speaker 2: on vacation with married couples. You got good America.
Speaker 5: Let me just say something, and I enjoy that ship
Speaker 5: like like I personally, I personally enjoy no drama.
Speaker 2: That's right. You know what I'm saying. I hope I
Speaker 2: personally like but you know, you know people you know
Speaker 2: who's dated. I don't.
Speaker 5: I don't like to hang with horse anymore like my horse,
Speaker 5: like you know, I want to funk everything like guy,
Speaker 5: really sorry, man, you need to comment day and I
Speaker 5: don't want to be around you like you.
Speaker 7: You're kind of embarrassing. You want the same ship we
Speaker 7: did when we're sixteen.
Speaker 2: You got our grow that that that that's that is
Speaker 2: for boys around. I got trust.
Speaker 7: I can't be running around and random bites. That's for
Speaker 7: young ns.
Speaker 2: Man. You like fresh floor, you better make it still
Speaker 2: a dance. You out of line, you out of you color.
Speaker 2: I said myself the whole You want to do the money,
Speaker 2: not let him touch you like at this point, like,
Speaker 2: and that's what I be looking at me. Come on, girl,
Speaker 2: come on, do I look like I do not want this?
Speaker 7: Yo? Let me.
Speaker 2: Y'all. I bring myself. I bring myself for that. I
Speaker 2: give the money your hell, you.
Speaker 5: Bring your son. Yeah, yeah, he looks like he's gonna
Speaker 5: get it there. Ye, I bring a chick this strip club.
Speaker 5: That's oh yeah, you on that type of ship, that's all.
Speaker 2: That's fine. Wife is not going for that, bitch. You
Speaker 2: might come on some cool ship though, No. Mighte be
Speaker 2: a gold to the spot, but get a lap there.
Speaker 7: She's like, you willy, you bugget now the no drama
Speaker 7: is driver at like that?
Speaker 2: Now, I ain't getting dinner the night. But I'll be honest,
Speaker 2: both of the side. None of us get dances. We
Speaker 2: just throw the money. That's that's cool. Yeah, yeah, that's
Speaker 2: helping kicking out the heir. Girl you missed over here.
Speaker 7: We pay paid a couple of colleges that the fact desembled.
Speaker 7: We out, man, I'm dissemble. We ain't going nowhere.
Speaker 2: Depend on been going on the other side of Florida. Yeah,
Speaker 2: he goes on the way too much, va, little kid,
Speaker 2: a little too many take them out, man, come on, listen.
Speaker 5: He's the only person that I know that vaccasion on
Speaker 5: the other other side of the state.
Speaker 2: That's it. He comes right back on the same coast
Speaker 2: through you've been to No, but you've been. You've been
Speaker 2: to Mauth, Florida. No, you never moved to Destin. It's
Speaker 2: the beach, they say, it's the clear Florida. No, I
Speaker 2: didn't hear about that. Yeah, yeah, sounds good.
Speaker 7: I'm doing Fee Islands again this ship. I tell you
Speaker 7: why I Jesus either you know what I mean? Depending No, No,
Speaker 7: it's in Thailand and Egypt.
Speaker 2: They banded weed in Thailand. Now know they didn't not
Speaker 2: for me. They still got to be careful. Thailand were good.
Speaker 2: Pizza we good.
Speaker 7: You know.
Speaker 6: I was in Thailand for like a month and a half,
Speaker 6: almost like two months the week they there, like, I
Speaker 6: tored Thailand twice and stayed out, So they're good.
Speaker 2: You don't even know nowhere. Why you wearing travel place
Speaker 2: I've been. I guarantee you listed by the way he does.
Speaker 2: He prefers to stay in Florida, but working he hear
Speaker 2: me some spotes. As you said, he's been in Columbia, Columbia.
Speaker 7: Searching for per I'm about to heat is legal in
Speaker 7: Perule too. I'm not talking about I'm just I'm I
Speaker 7: go to.
Speaker 2: A little little he goes there searching for hip hop.
Speaker 2: So he goes to the hood.
Speaker 3: I'm with him. I'm with the cats out there and
Speaker 3: they take.
Speaker 2: Us and he ain't no tourist.
Speaker 5: When I go over sees last thing, I'm searching for
Speaker 5: hip hop.
Speaker 2: I am I'm not mad that you should not like
Speaker 2: hip hop save itself. I'm on a hammock chef out there.
Speaker 7: Man, Saint Dreini, Man, I hit you to me saying, damn,
Speaker 7: he came to the clan forgot it and though you
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, graft you gottau with us.
Speaker 2: Me and so I'm a shocking I'm with it. Hold On,
Speaker 2: hold on, hold on, I can't.
Speaker 5: We gotta, we gotta not not recognize this person. Slim
Speaker 5: Doug is a vacation of too Yo slim ship. And
Speaker 5: you know why Slim Doug got us beat A little bit.
Speaker 2: He's single. It might be having a little bit more
Speaker 2: fun than us, just a little like that single like
Speaker 2: he hated him, like damn, what was you have today?
Speaker 2: A little bit more? It's a little bit more like
Speaker 2: I like to with.
Speaker 6: Other coaches and learning and get into it all the
Speaker 6: time you have with your lady. Just go like tie
Speaker 6: Land two months put all over the world. But really
Speaker 6: I want to do what the locals is doing. Yeah,
Speaker 6: like I don't want to go nowhere. Fancy East and
Speaker 6: White Pasca. What's your favorite favorite?
Speaker 2: What's your favorite spot? That's your favorite? I have a
Speaker 2: favorite I be.
Speaker 6: I like your paying a lot. I went to I
Speaker 6: went to fucking not even just in major city. I
Speaker 6: went to Okawa and seeing that a little spot that's from.
Speaker 2: Military definitely was one of the time. It was crazy.
Speaker 2: I've been all over here.
Speaker 3: I've been a bunch of places, but I always love it,
Speaker 3: like I even when we were you know what, you
Speaker 3: know every dough.
Speaker 2: I have a favorite I love? I be. I just love.
Speaker 7: In Germany than weird places bro like with niggas. But no,
Speaker 7: so you don't have a favorite. I don't think so
Speaker 7: man to have a favorite spot A favorite, I don't know.
Speaker 7: I just I be indulgent a culture so much. I
Speaker 7: don't think I like nothing more than ever. I just
Speaker 7: enjoy all experiences, all of it. Yeah, so different.
Speaker 3: Yeah, travel, what's your favorite oh ship, I just got
Speaker 3: my favorite, Lucia. It was a ruble forever. But now
Speaker 3: say that much fun than the ruble. I like the rule,
Speaker 3: but it was like my pe booze man. See know
Speaker 3: nobody that's not that's a big man.
Speaker 5: I didn't like a ruble so much that when I
Speaker 5: see my homie in the ruble, I was like, you
Speaker 5: ain't having no fun.
Speaker 2: He texted me back, like, world up, I'm not go
Speaker 2: to people I like, I can hold you. Turk is dope.
Speaker 2: But say, Lucia just took it for me.
Speaker 3: What's your favorite? I mean, Haiti was one of the
Speaker 3: I had one of the funnest times in Haiti.
Speaker 2: Haiti. Haiti was one of the fun times. I had, Yo,
Speaker 2: what's my man name? Who running over there with chicken
Speaker 2: with what's the what's right now? Right now? Yeah, he
Speaker 2: got a funky name, he got a funk the four lord,
Speaker 2: the game leader you name? You went over there with barbecue.
Speaker 2: I mean I went into into the spot. I don't
Speaker 2: know any baring you, but I never been. It was
Speaker 2: it was dope all take off yo. Oh yeah, you
Speaker 2: know what I'm saying. Yo, you got.
Speaker 3: Home?
Speaker 2: Oh lord, it's per se.
Speaker 8: This shigg See he got his ship, y'all yo, get yo,
Speaker 8: you know to a man.
Speaker 2: He came with the brush. Yeah, he brushing out the
Speaker 2: call the brush. Niggas gave him the pool water test.
Speaker 2: They may get the pool with this ship. I seen everything.
Speaker 2: I was waiting to see.
Speaker 15: Him though, because I wanted to know he got his
Speaker 15: money up so we could have hoarded now.
Speaker 17: So I just got one question, go to Lebron the
Speaker 17: Lebron doctor didn't work?
Speaker 8: Who else?
Speaker 2: Who was what the recking? The artists? Oh sooner?
Speaker 7: Yeah?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I was like, damn, that was painful. This this
Speaker 2: is not man's just water chill chill boic where.
Speaker 7: Listen?
Speaker 2: Listen, listen, listen? How the funk you get your ship back?
Speaker 2: You know because of ours stress? Father told you.
Speaker 10: You can't.
Speaker 2: Seen this. You ever thought about getting your ship back?
Speaker 2: You know, like now, cool, I'm taking away for a reason.
Speaker 2: Can't get my ship? You know, I did you get
Speaker 2: that's a serious question? Check me out? Can you said
Speaker 2: off like you can't do much?
Speaker 5: By the way, that's what that was the funniest. By
Speaker 5: the way, people on Twitter is the meanest people going back.
Speaker 2: You know, how to scover that? Niggas are you next.
Speaker 2: I'm dying. Look what his fake. Listen, it's not gonna
Speaker 2: be fan off poor rigging for thirty years. It's because
Speaker 2: I don't even want to correct some of these sis.
Speaker 2: It's just like I say, you get in the pool
Speaker 2: with your ship. Nigga's like my ship real, I can
Speaker 2: get way anyway.
Speaker 7: Ship that I was already in the whole My family
Speaker 7: was like just getting west.
Speaker 2: Everyone knows I played into the joke. I'm with the joke,
Speaker 2: so that's naturally you want to take me off.
Speaker 7: That's the Jeffersons.
Speaker 2: I had to go back ship back, yeah, because I
Speaker 2: noticed neither of you'all to get had off, Like.
Speaker 10: Come on, you.
Speaker 3: So got.
Speaker 2: He ain't coming back and still bron bleve me yo
Speaker 2: unless you give me the blow, give me the blo
Speaker 2: bron give but Jenny gets eat. A better ship is
Speaker 2: standing black. You're not just yo man. By the way,
Speaker 2: I needed to get that out because people have been
Speaker 2: coming at not take it off though, real that's the show.
Speaker 2: Oh my god, that was crazy. Mao, graph we funked up.
Speaker 2: So let's get into the skill. Into these records to
Speaker 2: me right was hilarious.
Speaker 3: Before we get into the records. The importance of Brazilda
Speaker 3: in their movement.
Speaker 2: What how did that like?
Speaker 3: When did you get involved with them? How important was
Speaker 3: that to resurfacing what you was doing already?
Speaker 2: I met the most in real niggas Shire just in
Speaker 2: the business man, and we just clicked. They just they
Speaker 2: they just like us.
Speaker 6: There's some street guys that made it, but but they
Speaker 6: they they showed me how you could just wrap the
Speaker 6: lyrical and make this ship that I make all the
Speaker 6: time and be successful financially with it. Yeah, but I
Speaker 6: didn't see the money aspect of it until I've really
Speaker 6: seen how they were structuring the business. I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: I get it now, you know what I'm saying. So yeah,
Speaker 6: them niggas like blessed they real niggas. It just fell
Speaker 6: in line. It wasn't like an effort. We just got
Speaker 6: cool with a were just friends real you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So were your friends before it really started
Speaker 6: popping off with Bennie?
Speaker 2: Yeah, I got cool with uh.
Speaker 6: With Conway and west Side they was first and me
Speaker 6: and Bennie got cool FORO even.
Speaker 2: Blew up west Side.
Speaker 6: It was like the Rizzard right yeah, okay, yeah, he's
Speaker 6: like he wrapped though, yeah, yeah, facts, but he orchastraated
Speaker 6: the whole ship, like the brainchild, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So then I went on I did the project with
Speaker 6: Bennie to stop calling our content. I went on one
Speaker 6: domestic tour around this country and then we did one
Speaker 6: we did a European tool.
Speaker 2: But she was great. The niggas, the niggas really getting
Speaker 2: to it. Nigga.
Speaker 6: Every show was sola funk out on the stage for
Speaker 6: the back door merchant selling. Even the project I did
Speaker 6: with them, all the merch sol out everything. So I'm like,
Speaker 6: this is fucking wonderful, Like this is hip hop nigga.
Speaker 6: This some of these songs don't even know fucking hooks.
Speaker 6: Niggas just bars and it's going, niggas singing the words.
Speaker 6: I'm like, I'm in London, like niggas singing all the words.
Speaker 6: I'm like, this is fucking great. It's how you radio
Speaker 6: niggas feel.
Speaker 2: This is fine. I don't remember. I'm not used to
Speaker 2: that feeling, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So when I see niggas singing the words back, I'm like, oh,
Speaker 6: this is great, this is this is what the funk
Speaker 6: I signed up for.
Speaker 2: So it's like the essence of hip hop before hip
Speaker 2: hop was popping on one of them.
Speaker 6: When you grind as long as I have, it's like,
Speaker 6: it's not you don't get the recognition or the niggas
Speaker 6: know your records well enough for the whole crowd of me.
Speaker 2: So yeah, you move walked out of that. I ain't
Speaker 2: mad at you take he taking.
Speaker 5: A you know, one of my greatest favor not not
Speaker 5: well it's one of them, was me hanging out with
Speaker 5: Bennie putting them on the caviar. I was like, man,
Speaker 5: you gotta start eating y'all. Yeah, y'all in the caviard.
Speaker 5: And then I'm asking him because you know X before X,
Speaker 5: I went to Atlanta to film the video with them
Speaker 5: and then went to New York and then after that
Speaker 5: AX passed away with Bennie and and I'm like, you
Speaker 5: ever met dm and they dad did a record together,
Speaker 5: So you ever met d m X? And he was
Speaker 5: like no, And I called DMX and DMX pulls right out,
Speaker 5: that's fire. And I don't know if I told Bennie
Speaker 5: that DMX is coming off, I just like surprised him.
Speaker 5: I forget which one I did but like seeing them
Speaker 5: connecting us, just knowing that I know that day had
Speaker 5: already been in contact, but physically like me having to
Speaker 5: do that, I was just like that.
Speaker 2: That shit was like put here on my chest. You know,
Speaker 2: it's the one on film. It's film. I love that,
Speaker 2: it's you know what I mean.
Speaker 7: Benny a real one. I know, of course I know Benny.
Speaker 7: I never met the rest of them. Me and Benny
Speaker 7: was in Vegas one time. Man word, you know you
Speaker 7: know Benny was locked up with Emery right, Oh yeah, yeah,
Speaker 7: that's how I know called me. He was in Vegas
Speaker 7: and we was in dres and Ship and he's like, yo,
Speaker 7: I'm gonna pull up the Dre's and ship. You know, people,
Speaker 7: first time in Vegas fucked your head up, as it
Speaker 7: did it to me. You go to Vegas like you
Speaker 7: you buy bottles in New York Miami. Only mister Jones
Speaker 7: got Vegas prices.
Speaker 2: It's one of the.
Speaker 7: Only clubs out here on the beach that got Vegas.
Speaker 7: Really nah, nah, certain clubs you going there. Ship is reasonable,
Speaker 7: but Vegas, when nothing is fucking reasonable, you go to Vegas.
Speaker 2: You gotta bring that bag.
Speaker 7: So we was in the club and ship we had
Speaker 7: as this ship the section. So Benny was like, now, wife,
Speaker 7: you don't drink champagne. Like I'm gonna order her some
Speaker 7: other ship. So I'm like, all right, here, go.
Speaker 2: To tell you, okay.
Speaker 7: So he looked at the ship. He looked at me,
Speaker 7: saying this is real. I said, yeah, it's another monster,
Speaker 7: my nigga. But I got the major plug.
Speaker 2: What you need? You know what I mean that? He
Speaker 2: was like, Yo, I need the plugs. This ship retarded.
Speaker 2: I'll tell you about it. Dude.
Speaker 7: Say it's a thousand dollars in the club in Vegas,
Speaker 7: a thousand dollars a bottle and suspended twenty five hundred
Speaker 7: with tip three bands. So like, it's a different world.
Speaker 7: You go to Vegas, you gotta really go to play.
Speaker 6: Don't go back playing. You're gonna have a real fun
Speaker 6: of you on play. First, my first first time in Vegas,
Speaker 6: I went with some investors. These white dudes are trying
Speaker 6: to invest in me when I first went independent, and
Speaker 6: they blew the crazy bag Vegas. We stayed in fucking
Speaker 6: Denzel's house, sucking every club I performed in the Playboy
Speaker 6: man know this wow ship.
Speaker 7: They went crazy another level. They sniffed their.
Speaker 6: Brains out everything you want a BUMPERK No, sorry, john't
Speaker 6: but I was hot ship though I had a blast Vegas.
Speaker 2: Vegas. That's just that's just spoiled me because my first
Speaker 2: spriends in Vegas, nigs, thirty mans in like your two
Speaker 2: days yas, Vegas, Miami. My favorite city is in America, man,
Speaker 2: New York. You still like Vegas like that? Though I
Speaker 2: feel like I don't love Vegas.
Speaker 7: I like it.
Speaker 3: I don't love Vegas. Yeah, yeah, yeah, Vegas. I don't
Speaker 3: love Vegas because I don't want to. Maybe I don't
Speaker 3: want to turn them no more. Maybe that's why I strip.
Speaker 3: You can listen the strip, peaceful, the turn up. That's
Speaker 3: why Vegas it's like South Beach the rest of Miami. Yeah,
Speaker 3: that's look at I gotta see that ship.
Speaker 2: Yeah what I thinging like, I'm I'm gonna go once
Speaker 2: baby girl out of school is so that's real ship
Speaker 2: that your money goes along with.
Speaker 10: You know what?
Speaker 6: I want to say that my first time in cave
Speaker 6: I was actually with Benny and motherfucking uh, come on,
Speaker 6: you gotta relax.
Speaker 2: I wouldn't matter, like, come on, you got cargo that
Speaker 2: I had that fresh eggssh do you car go to?
Speaker 2: Don't messed with no cargo? He's like, how about this?
Speaker 2: Let me ask you this.
Speaker 5: This might sound disappointed if you're gonna say no, how
Speaker 5: about rock.
Speaker 2: And fuller oyster? I don't funk with oysters neither, Like
Speaker 2: I gotta take your car. You gotta take you gotta
Speaker 2: take your car like this too. You freaking nig can't
Speaker 2: about talking about he's a fan.
Speaker 19: Yeah, by the way they come away, get it together, bro,
Speaker 19: like that.
Speaker 2: Oysters not no, you as far as I go, sushi
Speaker 2: and what's the other They give you the shi shimi.
Speaker 2: That's it. That's my ship. That's what I don't really
Speaker 2: with sushi like that, see I do. That's what stops.
Speaker 2: You eat oysters. And that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: No, I said, I don't funk with sushi. But it's
Speaker 7: the way, you know, I feel like that Rice has
Speaker 7: been there for right now, like, yeah, I never had
Speaker 7: good of my faces, but the rise.
Speaker 2: You don't get these niggas. The way you eat oysters
Speaker 2: is a major pause. We have cam and makes right now.
Speaker 3: What I.
Speaker 2: Said, Right now, cam Mat is pulling up. He wanted.
Speaker 7: He wanted, you know you know what else you know,
Speaker 7: you know, I know we're all over the place, but
Speaker 7: you know what else is a super paws super it's
Speaker 7: a super paws telling you a massage lady what you want?
Speaker 2: Like every lady. Yeah, think about what you said.
Speaker 5: Thinking about what you said. Say to your massage lady.
Speaker 5: What you tell me, what you say to yours? You
Speaker 5: tell me, tell me what you.
Speaker 2: Go hard? Just think about it. Think about what you
Speaker 2: say to your sauce lady. What are you talking about?
Speaker 2: You say to your massage Lady's a boy listen to
Speaker 2: lady's still. Let's think about it.
Speaker 7: There's not one thing about when you when they say
Speaker 7: what do you want? Just think about what you said.
Speaker 7: I was about to say, you say, what are you saying?
Speaker 7: When you get in the bar and they say what
Speaker 7: do you want?
Speaker 2: What do you say?
Speaker 3: I want to relax, that's sure, But they asked you
Speaker 3: where like you know, yes, shoulders.
Speaker 2: Listen to Just think about it. You tell them a
Speaker 2: big boss. You can't even say low up back, Yeah,
Speaker 2: we can't say low up back.
Speaker 20: To well you know he's not saying lower back. Yeah,
Speaker 20: he's like yeah, yeah, get down yo, get do but
Speaker 20: get both dressed.
Speaker 2: Nuts he's like above distressed about above the nuts. You
Speaker 2: know funny. You know what's funny.
Speaker 5: My masage lady was was massage me the other day
Speaker 5: and she like a word in my I was like,
Speaker 5: wait a minute, shed that she was gonna come.
Speaker 8: On good.
Speaker 2: Like you know, you got other clients, Yo got Lebron.
Speaker 7: So let's you just turned to the side and I
Speaker 7: just figured some ship out. You got your shipped back.
Speaker 7: Lebron had to give the plug the booty. You the doctor,
Speaker 7: I mean the bron ship got up. Get because your
Speaker 7: face looking a little boosty.
Speaker 16: I could let myself grow some bullshit the ship off
Speaker 16: still got the straight up.
Speaker 2: They want some ship. I can come.
Speaker 7: Right, I can be hold right now look like that. Yeah,
Speaker 7: you don't think I can do no be a wing.
Speaker 7: I'm gonna get a half bloom first. I'm go get
Speaker 7: a half move for two months.
Speaker 2: You know, listen.
Speaker 16: I just want you to just know it is real
Speaker 16: whole and Jake Cole could do the Jesus I can't
Speaker 16: do that around. I'm gonna do the twist. Do the
Speaker 16: twist a little bit, you know.
Speaker 7: Jake Cole went all the way. They ain't fucking around.
Speaker 7: That's the fact that the nigga's enlightened.
Speaker 2: Let it grow. No, that ship is locked up loaded
Speaker 2: speaking about Jake Cole and all that.
Speaker 5: But you know, Drake was one of the people that
Speaker 5: publicly like kind of like.
Speaker 2: Showed you super love. Yeah he did.
Speaker 5: After that, boy, I heard you say somewhere that everyone
Speaker 5: kind of shows you love.
Speaker 2: It's just not publicly. Yeah, that's the fact, Drake.
Speaker 6: Drake was the first person, like of like an A
Speaker 6: list type of nigga that when an interview and said,
Speaker 6: I think Son is amazing, like I wrapped on ever
Speaker 6: had not successful to see.
Speaker 2: And he he called me.
Speaker 3: It was like that I was amazing. But then he
Speaker 3: said that he said in an interview too, like he
Speaker 3: called me. I was like, I just called you to
Speaker 3: say that was in credit.
Speaker 2: I was dope.
Speaker 6: I was like, that's what up? Good looking and that's it.
Speaker 6: And then he said in an interview like, Noah Grab
Speaker 6: is dope. I've seen him freestyle successful and he buyed
Speaker 6: that ship. I called him and tell him, now, show
Speaker 6: was amazing, and I was like, I appreciated that because
Speaker 6: most niggas to say it like they'll be like.
Speaker 2: I think you in private. Yeah, it was in the project.
Speaker 6: They will be like like it never happened, which is
Speaker 6: fun too, but it's like, I don't think it's dick
Speaker 6: riding showing a nigga love. It's just really niggas. If
Speaker 6: you like it, you like it if I like someone,
Speaker 6: but like Yo, you did, Yeah, I give that. I
Speaker 6: show niggas up any chance I get it. If I don't,
Speaker 6: I mean I just forgot because the lights on you
Speaker 6: and you can't remember anything she has I get. I
Speaker 6: show a nigga love if it's real, you know what
Speaker 6: I'm saying. So I appreciated that when Drake said that,
Speaker 6: I'm like, that's a real nigga shit because a lot
Speaker 6: of times a nigga do that in private and public
Speaker 6: come on like even like like when I did.
Speaker 2: I don't want to do that.
Speaker 6: Una everybody don't show love what I'm saying, but something
Speaker 6: what niggas do. I appreciate it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So what happened when who ain't show love? A lot
Speaker 6: of niggas, but don't you know they might show it now.
Speaker 6: So that's why I don't want to even rock the boat.
Speaker 2: No, no, I ain't gonna do that. Some niggas is
Speaker 2: showing up now, Math show.
Speaker 6: You said that you a math had a record and
Speaker 6: you did somebody on that record, and I tell you
Speaker 6: that off camera tool, that's a person that shows I'm
Speaker 6: working with now, So that wouldn't have that that been
Speaker 6: is wouldn't have happened. So it's like, that's why now
Speaker 6: this level of my career, it's about touring and networking
Speaker 6: and branch and.
Speaker 2: Now doing bigger things. I am not dissing niggas anything.
Speaker 2: Bridges hell, No, I burned enough. I'm good, I'm good
Speaker 2: with a back. This is business. This is a work
Speaker 2: nine to five nigga. I'm not dissing. I to not
Speaker 2: fuck with you this year.
Speaker 6: At this point, the young people this issue because you're
Speaker 6: wrong with something and you just fit in the scheme.
Speaker 2: That's your ass. Sorry, But now it's like it's more business.
Speaker 6: I might write something crazy, like I got one record,
Speaker 6: I said something inappropriate about somebody that I'm working with
Speaker 6: now and it's a dope ass line. I was like,
Speaker 6: I'm taking that out because it ain't worth it. It's like,
Speaker 6: I'm not fucking the bag for this, Like, what the
Speaker 6: fuck is the purpose?
Speaker 3: Now?
Speaker 2: I want all the money, like, give me everything I
Speaker 2: missed and plus them all. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So now fuck all that, So I try to just
Speaker 6: think bigger and just be more mature about shit. Plus
Speaker 6: it don't mental sense. Niggas don't remember what you said.
Speaker 6: They remember how you made them feel, So why even
Speaker 6: fucking around?
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying, some real it's true, what
Speaker 2: the success you have right now. I know I'll give
Speaker 2: you a lot of hypothetical questions, but if had Chad's
Speaker 2: been alive, with the success you have right now, because
Speaker 2: we know that at one point you guys did separate,
Speaker 2: right and you win your own way. He went his
Speaker 2: own way, you know, for whatever reasons, with the success
Speaker 2: you have now, if Chads would have been alive, which
Speaker 2: you would have went back and game and got them,
Speaker 2: I'm gonna break it all the way down.
Speaker 6: Glad you asked me that, because I never even thought
Speaker 6: about that when Chazz passed, right, I'm so much like him.
Speaker 6: We both like stubborn and in little ways where we
Speaker 6: didn't speak on some personal shit and squash heady bullshit
Speaker 6: that niggas thought it was a real issue, like it
Speaker 6: some niggas in my neighborhood that to be like, oh
Speaker 6: crap and Chazz had beef, Nick, how you got beef
Speaker 6: with Jazz and you not and you're not You're still
Speaker 6: alive like Nigga.
Speaker 2: No, he like he was more like a tough love
Speaker 2: dad kind of person, like are you leaving and leaving home? Good?
Speaker 2: Do it on your own. And we just so.
Speaker 6: Stubborn with certain shit that we just never squashed. Little
Speaker 6: different to his music shit not personal shit, because when
Speaker 6: I had like beef in the street on some real shit,
Speaker 6: he got involved and made sure this shit was level
Speaker 6: out and it didn't go the way it was about
Speaker 6: to go.
Speaker 2: So he still was doing the big homie shit.
Speaker 6: Just we wasn't talking like the father and son combos
Speaker 6: I used to have because we was being petty and
Speaker 6: just I was being like a kid with it and
Speaker 6: just not being mature like perfect.
Speaker 2: Then one time Juju was on the phone.
Speaker 6: We're both of us, I'm on one side, chats on
Speaker 6: the up line, you do want to merge a call
Speaker 6: so we could talk about dumb shit. I'm like, now
Speaker 6: I'm good child, Like Noah, I'm good' like you know,
Speaker 6: need being silly, just get on the phone with each other,
Speaker 6: just silly shit like because we was more like dad
Speaker 6: and son than manager and artists. So I'm just like
Speaker 6: feeling and it's all petty stuff, nothing like major, like
Speaker 6: little shit like the gu and his story or like
Speaker 6: little other something. I might have said an interview like
Speaker 6: little shit, like really little minushit that we would have
Speaker 6: fucking got through in twenty seconds and been on through
Speaker 6: this regular life shit. Because there's so much situations I
Speaker 6: was in. I'm like, damn, what would Chazz do right now?
Speaker 6: Or damn, wish I could just call him and just
Speaker 6: get his advice on something. So if he was alive now,
Speaker 6: I'd have been fixed that because when he died, when
Speaker 6: he passed away, I was in Paris and I had
Speaker 6: to leave that trip early and come back for the funeral,
Speaker 6: and I had to. I left my ex out there
Speaker 6: and all that. She was like, I'm you know, leave
Speaker 6: me alone in Paris, Yeah, bitch, I gotta go by,
Speaker 6: And I had to go to that. I wasn't gonna
Speaker 6: missus funeral. I had to pay that respect, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying. So that should hurt me that he
Speaker 6: passed away with I me expressing I got I told
Speaker 6: him I loved him before.
Speaker 2: I never told me. We never because I never learned
Speaker 2: that kind of shit. Me and my dad never spoke.
Speaker 2: You found that he passed away and then the funerals immediately.
Speaker 6: I found that he passed away, and then I found
Speaker 6: out the funeral was happening in the week.
Speaker 2: I was in Paris.
Speaker 7: Okay, well, when I was getting on the plane, like
Speaker 7: I was about to leave, and they was like, you
Speaker 7: know the funerals, I'm like, you serious, I'm at the
Speaker 7: airport and they don't have to go to Paris. So
Speaker 7: I had to cut that trip short and fly back
Speaker 7: for that because I wasn't gonna miss that at all,
Speaker 7: you know what I'm saying. So I was like, fuck Paris,
Speaker 7: but I was doing shit out there, like but I
Speaker 7: just cut it short and came back. But I never
Speaker 7: learned how to like express love and shit like that,
Speaker 7: Like me and my dad. When he was trying to
Speaker 7: say I love you, he didn't say I love it.
Speaker 7: He said he would say, did you see the game
Speaker 7: last night? And then we talk about the game. But
Speaker 7: I know what it meant when to say the game,
Speaker 7: like that's him showing love. But he never said I
Speaker 7: love you. He just said, did you see the game?
Speaker 7: So make sure I watched the games.
Speaker 6: We could talk about it, because that's how we expressed shit,
Speaker 6: like just in weird, dysfunctional ways. But I know what
Speaker 6: you're trying to say, and I'm trying to say it back.
Speaker 6: So I ain't learned like regular functional self expression shit
Speaker 6: like that.
Speaker 2: So we me and Chad didn't really say these things,
Speaker 2: you know what I mean.
Speaker 6: I didn't really learn how to express a mo in
Speaker 6: a positive way like that. So when he passed, that
Speaker 6: really fucked me up because I'm like, damn, he died
Speaker 6: with all this shit, I got to say to him,
Speaker 6: it's not just saying the songs or say the interviews now,
Speaker 6: you know what I'm saying. So to answer your question,
Speaker 6: if he was alive, now, hell, he'd be happy, he'd
Speaker 6: be proud of fuck, he would be right here, like
Speaker 6: he probably be here with literally right here like facts
Speaker 6: like yeah, Like as a matter of fact, when I
Speaker 6: was going to make the Rockefeller chain, I was gonna
Speaker 6: make a black hand piece too and have both of
Speaker 6: those ship the mother like because I just I just
Speaker 6: him going is like I'm missing the part of me,
Speaker 6: Like damn, that's That's that's why the.
Speaker 2: Black Hen logos like that. Yeah, I'm gonna make that
Speaker 2: with the Rockefeller piece and put them both on, like
Speaker 2: this's what we're doing.
Speaker 3: What was the black Can label revolving around you originally?
Speaker 3: Or was there other artists before you?
Speaker 2: Fifty was with Chads before me? Has a black Can? Yeah,
Speaker 2: well like the black Yeah management management management.
Speaker 6: I asked Black like did he have that brand already? Well,
Speaker 6: Black Can it was a crew that started in the
Speaker 6: federal princes system way before I was going out in
Speaker 6: the seventy So that's why that should is like probably
Speaker 6: equivalent to whatever black Moth feel we know in America.
Speaker 6: You know what I'm saying, Like Chazz a different y'all
Speaker 6: got to research Chads Williams.
Speaker 2: If y'all don't know here, a different level of gangs
Speaker 2: compared to what y'all say is gangsters like gangs the graph.
Speaker 6: No, I can't compare myself to ship like that, So
Speaker 6: I'll be like, no, I'm just a street nigga. He's
Speaker 6: like another level of him. It always associates this a
Speaker 6: different level of the street that niggas right movies about Literally,
Speaker 6: Denzel was gonna play Chazz in the movie, like remember
Speaker 6: that American gangster and then Frank Lucas, that's Chazz Circle.
Speaker 2: Frank Lucas, uh uh, Nicky Bonds.
Speaker 6: All the all them was does Chazz Circle really the
Speaker 6: mother like they was gonna do chat They could have
Speaker 6: chose Chazz movie over that one.
Speaker 2: They did.
Speaker 6: As a matter of fact, Chazz story probably other than
Speaker 6: Frank Lucas story.
Speaker 3: Wowould never told no, hell no, because I felt that
Speaker 3: they've minimized Chazz's gangsterism sort of.
Speaker 2: Say to Robin, was it Banks, Well, not really minimized.
Speaker 2: I'm minimized. I mean the nigga robbed over sixty none
Speaker 2: of sixty seconds, but he broke.
Speaker 7: Out it sixty seconds each each one each month, not
Speaker 7: six nine each one.
Speaker 3: I'm like, God, damn, he's a superhero. Chaz broke out
Speaker 3: of jail three times.
Speaker 2: Yeah, he in a superhero.
Speaker 6: My niggas trying to say, like, he broke out of
Speaker 6: jail three times? Did all types of shit in the street,
Speaker 6: roped over sixty banks each one under sixty seconds, and
Speaker 6: his story was is fucking nuts. So niggas wanted to
Speaker 6: do his life story, but he was so meticulous about
Speaker 6: how he wanted to do it. I don't think he
Speaker 6: told Denzel No. I think he was just probably two.
Speaker 7: Hands on with and they maybe they wanted this bias
Speaker 7: life ris and be like bye, and he was like, nah,
Speaker 7: tell the story this way.
Speaker 6: But mad niggas wanted to play I think John Don
Speaker 6: Chetter wanted to play Chazz. They boy outcast was trying
Speaker 6: to do it. Mad niggas are trying to play Chazz
Speaker 6: because his story is praised.
Speaker 2: I mean they can still do it.
Speaker 6: Yeah, that's a fact, like state either his family that
Speaker 6: hog led his family, or I can tell the story
Speaker 6: because he's a part of my life too. But different
Speaker 6: niggas came to me to tell my story because it
Speaker 6: includes his story too. But it's a real story. Probably
Speaker 6: to go to his kids. I would think always his
Speaker 6: wife or you know, something like that. But his story
Speaker 6: was crazy.
Speaker 7: Yeah, the story is crazy, but to say the least, Yeah,
Speaker 7: if he was here right now, he'd be very excited, supportive,
Speaker 7: and he would have been right here and his.
Speaker 6: Motherfucker talking about all kinds of shit. Remember he's from
Speaker 6: the old school. So in the beginning we was going
Speaker 6: to London and going all around the world. He wasn't
Speaker 6: getting on the microphone and talking. Once he started talking,
Speaker 6: he fell in love with this ship and started he
Speaker 6: became his own celebrity. Everybody wanted to talk to to Chazz,
Speaker 6: Let's take a shot. Word, run the mother, let's do that. Indeed,
Speaker 6: you got a shot. Finally, that's straight Cranberry.
Speaker 2: I'm not.
Speaker 3: It's crazy because when I met you, I met him
Speaker 3: at the same time. Yeah, yeah, same time is out
Speaker 3: of New York out here. I believe it was in
Speaker 3: New York. I believe it was New York and it was.
Speaker 3: It was something having to do with DJ's meeting, like
Speaker 3: a meeting.
Speaker 2: Okay, but he was super like. He was just like
Speaker 2: stoic chat chats is that guy man? Like I learned.
Speaker 2: I learned a lot of what I know from Chazz.
Speaker 2: I ain't going to the front. What is it whiskey? Whiskey?
Speaker 2: Is that no smack? What is not smack at all?
Speaker 2: That's how I am. Chill a lot of you to
Speaker 2: never lie. You know what's crazy about? Drinks? Jam your niggas,
Speaker 2: get these bottles popping. Yeah, it's gonna be. It's gonna be.
Speaker 2: Was like, how you have the best sleep ever? Oh yeah,
Speaker 2: you go to sleep? Yeah, I'm an old man. I go,
Speaker 2: I'm done hit the road. You ain't taking those shots, nigga.
Speaker 10: Hit the roll.
Speaker 2: But hold on, hold on, hold.
Speaker 5: On graph Let me ask you Row Warrior, besides Chaz
Speaker 5: right to I'm gonna get your if there's anything that
Speaker 5: you could do over maybe you necessarily fucked up it
Speaker 5: was your yeah, yeah, or just anything you can do
Speaker 5: over involving your career, your life, your career.
Speaker 7: What would you try to do when I did it
Speaker 7: over a couple things. I mean, you know you're trialing there.
Speaker 7: You learn, you live, and you learn.
Speaker 6: One thing is I would have probably made a greater
Speaker 6: effort to men or try to mend fifty in Chazz
Speaker 6: when I fell out a chance, I would have really
Speaker 6: tried to make that happen because I think more energy
Speaker 6: into it. Yeah, I didn't put a lot of energy
Speaker 6: into I think I put more energy into when I realized, hey,
Speaker 6: this really affected my finances, and different niggas in the
Speaker 6: industry was like, yo, you better go higher at fifty
Speaker 6: because they were saying this, if he's stopping me to
Speaker 6: go higher at them, But like, it's not that he's
Speaker 6: stopping directly, but because of what's happening. If niggas don't
Speaker 6: see y'all squash it, they gonna keep acting how they're
Speaker 6: acting with you and handling your career like a fucking
Speaker 6: like they juggling eggs and shit. So this ship was
Speaker 6: it was just a mess, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: So I think I would have tried to do that,
Speaker 6: that's one for sure, And I probably would have. I
Speaker 6: would have learned the business part of the business way earlier.
Speaker 2: Younger.
Speaker 6: Yeah, Like I was having too much fun with the ship,
Speaker 6: but I wasn't thinking about no fucking money for I
Speaker 6: wasn't focusing on touring and building relationships. I wasn't trying
Speaker 6: to even fuck with niggas real and it's just all
Speaker 6: us and we're doing this. We're doing us.
Speaker 7: But that don't lead collaborate niggas at the top of
Speaker 7: collaborating niggas down heads doing this petty ship dest and
Speaker 7: each other and all that.
Speaker 6: When you get up here, you're trying to collab and
Speaker 6: network and get sponsors, all this type of ship. Like
Speaker 6: I wasn't thinking about that kind of ship, you know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: So you don't underestimate, nah, I see what you're doing
Speaker 3: the amount of times of spuny, Ship, you.
Speaker 2: Better cut, you better pay me to stress of control
Speaker 2: the way you.
Speaker 7: You had live, live, live on drink champ stress nuts
Speaker 7: releases all types of stress.
Speaker 2: Please the fucking check. Get another woman to get a
Speaker 2: chance with this stress. Is it anything that? Is it
Speaker 2: anything that you feel like.
Speaker 7: For your fans, like, because one thing you have is
Speaker 7: a Lowyer fan base, right yeah, I'm a lot of.
Speaker 2: That that was in your position, you know, battling it out.
Speaker 5: I had against the you know label all this ship
Speaker 5: you know, deteriorated and you still maintained your fans stuck
Speaker 5: with you.
Speaker 2: Mm hmmm yeah. Is it anything you want to tell them?
Speaker 2: Thank you? Ship?
Speaker 6: I appreciate your money. I know, Like, even though I
Speaker 6: went to college and stuff like that, all I knew
Speaker 6: was the street to.
Speaker 2: Be a doctor. Yeah, I went to college to be
Speaker 2: a doctor. I ain't. I'm bragged about you word up.
Speaker 6: And a lot of it's crazy. A lot of people
Speaker 6: in my family and my friends became doctors. I went
Speaker 6: to my school nurses and doctors and Ship. I went
Speaker 6: to Helcrest High School. I was like for nursing, medicine
Speaker 6: and a lot of niggas became doctors and nurses. So
Speaker 6: it was just like the natural progression from from because
Speaker 6: kill the niggas there were.
Speaker 2: It would have been that's why ain't gonna lie. You
Speaker 2: gotta name. You got the name of EP like Yo
Speaker 2: could could he could have plugged us? Go ahead sports.
Speaker 2: Who would your life been like if you would have
Speaker 2: actually got your doctorate?
Speaker 6: I been from the doctor doctor Golwalkee. I don't know,
Speaker 6: I'm joking. I would I would have been good at it.
Speaker 6: No matter what I was going to do in life,
Speaker 6: I know I was gonna.
Speaker 2: Be like what kind of medical feels you would have
Speaker 2: been in?
Speaker 6: I don't even think I cli made a clear decision
Speaker 6: of it. At first, I was it was physical science
Speaker 6: and not trying to figure this ship out. But I'm
Speaker 6: as one of the peoples. I decided, whatever I'm gonna do,
Speaker 6: I'm gonna be good at the ship. You know you're
Speaker 6: young to be like, did you know you were gonna
Speaker 6: make it? Yes, nigga, I knew it. Whatever the fun
Speaker 6: I told, I knew it. I was like, I'm not
Speaker 6: gonna be number I want to be number two. I
Speaker 6: don't want to be bad. I don't want to be.
Speaker 2: Now, I'm gonna work hard to be good at whatever
Speaker 2: I'm trying to do. Let me ask you. Were you
Speaker 2: rapping before you started to study for your doctor? Yeah?
Speaker 2: In school? Yeah, that's side of ship. I was.
Speaker 6: That's how I knew that the ship was real because Yo,
Speaker 6: the first I want a talent show that and that
Speaker 6: school is like a white as partner.
Speaker 2: Yeah, at a rap part and I was right, my man,
Speaker 2: man ship shot.
Speaker 6: A part of it was like battle rapping and and
Speaker 6: we're like almost like a group. So this is a
Speaker 6: white ass school. I got rock bands and all of that.
Speaker 6: So I'm like in my mom, I'm like, there's no
Speaker 6: way we're gonna win this talent show. I'm finally we're
Speaker 6: gonna win that. I'm telling you we're gonna win it
Speaker 6: with I was like with hip hop here, I don't
Speaker 6: think so and Nigga, we won that ship.
Speaker 2: After that, I was like, oh no, I really got
Speaker 2: this ship.
Speaker 6: This is real, Like we want a talent show here
Speaker 6: in front of everybody, like versus rock bands and everything
Speaker 6: at a predominantly white school. I was like, oh no,
Speaker 6: we got this ship. After that, I started taking it
Speaker 6: more serious, like I could do the ship for real.
Speaker 6: I already know I was good, I just didn't I
Speaker 6: was gonna be like a professional with it. You know
Speaker 6: what I'm saying for real, Bust to helped me change that,
Speaker 6: keep it doing it, hang shokly. I meant hanged shoki
Speaker 6: back then too, And we're doing a lot of right
Speaker 6: and go back.
Speaker 3: So you're saying, Bust, to help you understand that. What
Speaker 3: fighting Bust that makes you say, yes, I'm gonna be
Speaker 3: a professional.
Speaker 6: Non him him finding me and and like inviting me
Speaker 6: to the studio and exactly that that happened. Yeah, nigga,
Speaker 6: I'm like, I got the opportunity to do this for real,
Speaker 6: Like I'm in school.
Speaker 2: Because after you guys fight, you guys are cool. Right now,
Speaker 2: He wasn't cool for years after that.
Speaker 3: It was.
Speaker 6: He was with me for years after that. Then I
Speaker 6: saw him again somewhere and I think a promoter. It
Speaker 6: was another show when the promoter had me on the bill,
Speaker 6: but I wasn't getting paid for them grind and trying
Speaker 6: to get on and Buster was the headliner. So I'm
Speaker 6: trying to get on. He's trying to cut me out
Speaker 6: the motherfucking show and I'm dolo at this time too.
Speaker 6: He's like, well, if you want to perform, go ask Buster.
Speaker 6: He thinking I can't do it. I'm not realizing I
Speaker 6: know Buster, but I haven't seen him till we had
Speaker 6: to fight, and I'm dol oh. I'm like, fucking I'm
Speaker 6: I gonna ask Buster. So I didn't see him since
Speaker 6: we had to fight, so we're not really cool. But
Speaker 6: I'm like, but I want to perform some motherfucking mad
Speaker 6: I'm just gonna ask the nigga.
Speaker 2: Fuck it.
Speaker 6: So I walked up to him. He looked, he looked
Speaker 6: at He looked at me like I was crazy. She
Speaker 6: was like looking behind me, like you got an army,
Speaker 6: which was he mad? Deep, what's up, nigga?
Speaker 8: What up?
Speaker 2: Can I go? He was like he didn't know what
Speaker 2: to say. He was like, you're not gonna hug me first.
Speaker 2: I was like, Hey, what up, nigga? We got cool
Speaker 2: right there. Yeah, but he was looking at me like
Speaker 2: this nigga is really lost, loose, lou school nigga. That's
Speaker 2: how why know Buster? See what you mean? You ain't
Speaker 2: gonna hug me first? So you said, Hank Shokley is
Speaker 2: the next person that you met?
Speaker 3: Yeah, I met around the same time. I met both
Speaker 3: of them, and I was doing like right in different Like,
Speaker 3: you don't know that's public enemy that that's huge.
Speaker 2: Yeah. No, I'm a producer everything. People I don't know.
Speaker 2: I'm people. I ain't know who he was. That's real
Speaker 2: ship though. Well let me tell you people, Hank Sharkley
Speaker 2: is the ship. This is me in school.
Speaker 6: I don't know nothing about no music industry, none of
Speaker 6: this ship. I'm just did you know who Hank Shokley
Speaker 6: was when you met him?
Speaker 2: Probably not.
Speaker 6: I probably learned as I met him and figured it out.
Speaker 6: I was still learning ship. I didn't know nothing about
Speaker 6: nothing at this time. You know how many things I
Speaker 6: wrote for people and got jerked on because I know
Speaker 6: the motherfucker bsiness. I wrote a rack of ship many yeah,
Speaker 6: I met back then. I think I wrote on some
Speaker 6: three L W ship. I wrote on something A bunch
Speaker 6: of shit.
Speaker 3: Bro, you must have been already signed the Soviet that
Speaker 3: point when you're na, this is a fall sign.
Speaker 6: This is way way before I was like, I was
Speaker 6: writing a bunch of ship young. I ain't nonhing about nothing,
Speaker 6: So who was who was selling it?
Speaker 2: Whoever? I'm with?
Speaker 6: Like I was, I was working with well, I was
Speaker 6: ailing ship point like, why don't we gonna sue these niggas? No, no,
Speaker 6: somebody's selling yeah facts, Yeah I got I got ripped
Speaker 6: pbou a bunch of niggas. But I'm too young. I
Speaker 6: don't remember half the fucking names of the face. Only
Speaker 6: one I remember pointing out we got them.
Speaker 2: Fact.
Speaker 6: The only record I remember for sure was the j
Speaker 6: Lo ll O cool J one. Me and another writer
Speaker 6: wrote that whole shit in my studio and recorded it together.
Speaker 2: And I ain't. I got way cut out of that
Speaker 2: because I just didn't know the business. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying, You lead the track, I couldn't lead it anyway.
Speaker 2: And that I had that recorded in my spot, I
Speaker 2: would have leaked that check word. I ain't get paid
Speaker 2: for all credits.
Speaker 6: So if I if all them records, that's say, I
Speaker 6: ain't get no money at all, right, which I didn't,
Speaker 6: But if my name was on them, that would lead
Speaker 6: to bigger and grated things, pub deals, all kind of ship.
Speaker 6: But just getting jerked out of every motherfucking thing is
Speaker 6: is that's the business?
Speaker 2: Do we end though? They?
Speaker 6: You you do how to say, but you don't know,
Speaker 6: don't want her? You yes, it will, nigga, Yes will
Speaker 6: hell yeah, I'm going back now. I'm currently like like backtrack.
Speaker 7: You're trying to fix some of them things, because if
Speaker 7: they claim the percentage of the record, then it's like
Speaker 7: what the hell.
Speaker 2: Of a litigation, which I don't got no problem doing
Speaker 2: because I know I wrote the ship as anybody came
Speaker 2: to you to help you paying something that fucked you up.
Speaker 7: Yeah, if I tell you the names right now, the
Speaker 7: fuck you up too. You're like, I can't though now
Speaker 7: I don't want to.
Speaker 2: I don't just know, like it's the best and the
Speaker 2: biggest in the business that you have that we have
Speaker 2: now are the best, one of the biggest. You just
Speaker 2: a broade like that. If you guess that, I'm gonna
Speaker 2: still say no, nigga, No, I'm just saying it ain't
Speaker 2: like Joe Smore down the block. It's the a lister.
Speaker 2: But is it a line or is it the whole
Speaker 2: entire Yeah? Is it like literally that you're doing their
Speaker 2: whole lyrics for twelve bars? Yes, sixteen bars. It just
Speaker 2: it's all, it's all. I may submit it.
Speaker 6: I may submit a whole record or whole verse, a
Speaker 6: whole whatever the fuck and they might chop it up
Speaker 6: and change it, or if you're smart, you're gonna keep
Speaker 6: it how it is because I wrote it great, What
Speaker 6: the fuck are you're gonna make it better than this?
Speaker 2: No, just use this all that you have.
Speaker 6: You might have a different idea of different a different
Speaker 6: approach to what I wrote and just switch it around.
Speaker 6: But a lot of times they'll take it as given
Speaker 6: because I wrote it a way that even had the
Speaker 6: word patterns or the flow might connect, it makes no
Speaker 6: sense to change it, you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 2: This is the thing.
Speaker 3: So for ghost writers, do they make you sign NDA's Yeah, me, nah,
Speaker 3: Because I'm a real one.
Speaker 2: They know I'm not.
Speaker 6: I'm never gonna violate, So I never have to sign
Speaker 6: an NDA. I'm never gonna violate. They just know based
Speaker 6: on my character, I'm never gonna violate.
Speaker 2: I'm telling, I'm telling, I.
Speaker 6: Never signed one. Nah, But I think they just know
Speaker 6: character wized. I'm just I stay assumed that I could
Speaker 6: be like, but I'm just never going. It's not in
Speaker 6: my DNA to violate, like we fall out.
Speaker 2: Just that is violey and telling.
Speaker 7: But yeah, come on, man, you can't be out here
Speaker 7: acting like you call them seeing niggas.
Speaker 2: Wrote your ship.
Speaker 7: Yeah, I'm telling because if I wrote niggas ship, did
Speaker 7: I see them on Flex somebody?
Speaker 2: Yet nobody fucking with me?
Speaker 8: I am.
Speaker 10: Simber me.
Speaker 2: It's just only righting nigga.
Speaker 7: What you mean?
Speaker 2: Nobody better say only one nigga. That's hilarious nobody.
Speaker 8: Yeah. Yeah.
Speaker 2: Half my career I was writing, not just hip hop,
Speaker 2: ship too, like a couple of like a lot of
Speaker 2: ship ship you turn down be too k or something
Speaker 2: like that. Oh.
Speaker 6: Now, when I was on Sony remember that, remember uh
Speaker 6: uh got some name I was running at the time.
Speaker 6: He had the bright idea to make me make a
Speaker 6: song with them niggas. I was like, no, nigga like
Speaker 6: you on if I was a feature on the record,
Speaker 6: i'd have done that. He wanted to be on my record.
Speaker 6: I was like, no, we're not doing that.
Speaker 2: At that time. It was it was too tough nigga.
Speaker 2: Think about it. Back then, nigga ship you couldn't do bad.
Speaker 2: It wasn't like, yeah, but you might have got some
Speaker 2: finger popping going yo.
Speaker 21: Ship shout to stress.
Speaker 6: At that time, I didn't care about the Remember I
Speaker 6: didn't care about the bread at that time. I was
Speaker 6: just wanted to be the best. I wasn't about the business.
Speaker 6: I didn't have no idea about the business at that time.
Speaker 2: I was super same would be the best. He would
Speaker 2: have been a fit graph.
Speaker 6: That would have hurt me at that time all this time,
Speaker 6: that would look definitely not. I was like bop ship.
Speaker 6: I was like making he's talking about bricks and killing niggas.
Speaker 6: System hurt d m X Sis was a grown ass
Speaker 6: man kid k.
Speaker 2: Thinking about it. They were kids, Yeah, K Broy think
Speaker 2: about it, Kelly, D Kelly, if you were thinking about it.
Speaker 2: DMX did it when he was up here. Nigga didn't
Speaker 2: do it like on the Rise, just got side.
Speaker 7: But still Cisco was grown ass man with the nigga
Speaker 7: I leave Cisco.
Speaker 2: Yeah, Like I was like, Yo, funk the thug song.
Speaker 2: That was some ship. Cisco was that nigga And you
Speaker 2: thought you want Dragon shoot you. I just he was
Speaker 2: too early with Dragon.
Speaker 7: Now he'd have been he had a three D effect
Speaker 7: movie out, just dragging back ye little nas X. They
Speaker 7: all old Cisco. Yeah that's the fact, yo, we all
Speaker 7: sis go what do you mean wait wait this woom
Speaker 7: oh Cisco, my man benches come on now, let me
Speaker 7: rephrasing chicks, sisters, lovely women.
Speaker 2: They was wearing boxes. Member, I had to wearing all right.
Speaker 8: Come on, come on, created Cisco Cisco.
Speaker 2: Dongs.
Speaker 5: She didn't get as much love as Cisco did for
Speaker 5: making thongs famous.
Speaker 2: Exactly. You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 7: You know, back in that day, you get a chicken
Speaker 7: negga she had on the same boxes you had.
Speaker 5: Like, let me establish something, say right here, right now,
Speaker 5: Cisco deserved a National Thong Day.
Speaker 2: Lap dances free. I don't know about lap dancers because
Speaker 2: I'm still married. You go too far, but here's the staff.
Speaker 7: Cool cool, no, no, no, listen, National National Thong Day.
Speaker 2: It should be called Cisco. It should word up. Man
Speaker 2: the dog day, word up. Look at the camera. Man
Speaker 2: can't even keep it together. They can't keep it together.
Speaker 7: You know what I'm saying, because everybody start to visualize
Speaker 7: like dogs is okay?
Speaker 2: Made our life better? Man better, not better. Niggas like
Speaker 2: a lot of better. The panting line. We stopped having
Speaker 2: to see that ship, that ship in real job? Did
Speaker 2: you actually answer the feature when we said save the world?
Speaker 2: Did I said? I said, Beyonce? And for real niggas
Speaker 2: ain't stop me with that one. I'm coming to the.
Speaker 5: Was it ever opportunity that you had to do a
Speaker 5: record with somebody and you missed that opportunity?
Speaker 2: Like hole never told you to come.
Speaker 6: To the studio, and you was like, probably missed a
Speaker 6: few opportunities because I was too blind to see them
Speaker 6: or just moving crazy. But I will use this opportunity
Speaker 6: to mention that to me. Myself and I Beyonce record,
Speaker 6: I was official record.
Speaker 2: I was on the official remix.
Speaker 6: If you're going to storm by the vinyl and look
Speaker 6: on the B side it says be myself and I
Speaker 6: feature in graph Nigga.
Speaker 2: That's amazing real, Yeah, you about a viol right now,
Speaker 2: google it. I'm on, my name is on.
Speaker 3: I'll be like, oh, this is be honest the record
Speaker 3: with my name on the nigga putting nigga j maake
Speaker 3: a queen south Side.
Speaker 2: Miss I made that. I'm sure I missed a bunch
Speaker 2: of shit and I missed.
Speaker 6: You make a lot of mistakes coming up in this ship,
Speaker 6: especially when you're young. And it was me and Chad
Speaker 6: figuring it out together and that we we reached these
Speaker 6: hYP together, so we had to learn. He was the
Speaker 6: book smart one that actually knew the business and how
Speaker 6: to approach it. But this game changed every four or
Speaker 6: five months. Man, you gotta change his dresser.
Speaker 2: Yeah, you learn as you go, so you make some mistakes,
Speaker 2: Like you know what a mistake I made. I just
Speaker 2: remembered this one.
Speaker 6: Remember when they made my Space and I made the
Speaker 6: fucking I made the my Space jump Off song. I
Speaker 6: made a song called my Space jump Off that blew
Speaker 6: the fuck up on my Space and like no.
Speaker 2: Time, as soon as a Tom.
Speaker 6: Tom was behind that ship, that ship flew so fast,
Speaker 6: blew up fast, and we could we could keep up
Speaker 6: with it.
Speaker 2: It flew. I was like, oh ship, what do we do?
Speaker 6: We ain't know how to maximize on the success of it.
Speaker 6: Because at one point we're like, wait, we should wait
Speaker 6: for the major labels to come, and there were so
Speaker 6: many ringtone deals coming at us with good numbers, but.
Speaker 3: The lawyer said not wait, wait, wait wait, and we
Speaker 3: waited two motherfucker along. But I could have made a million,
Speaker 3: two million, three million off of that ship. That ship flew,
Speaker 3: but it flew so fast we didn't know what to
Speaker 3: do with it because it was still learning. We didn't
Speaker 3: have a viral hint and that shit took off like
Speaker 3: I was pushing a whole nother record called make It Hot.
Speaker 2: I was in DC.
Speaker 6: I was like my second home umpawn of Max Wayne.
Speaker 6: Shout out to Wayne, pushing that record. And I made
Speaker 6: that Monspace song as a fucking joke. I made two
Speaker 6: songs on the same beat. One song was like a
Speaker 6: street record that I was serious about, and I made
Speaker 6: the Monspace song just fucking around. We just leaked, and
Speaker 6: that ship took the funk off like it blew up.
Speaker 6: Like my DM was full of dozens and dozens and
Speaker 6: dozens of girls saying, can I be your.
Speaker 2: Next jump off? Can I be an next jump off?
Speaker 2: Copy of Facing?
Speaker 8: Yes?
Speaker 2: Yes, I was young back then. Space. Yeah, my Space
Speaker 2: was the I made that a joke.
Speaker 6: It blew up and it made money, but it could
Speaker 6: have made like a real million, really went crazy.
Speaker 7: My Space was the arrow you could you could holler
Speaker 7: back and forth and nobody blew you up like they
Speaker 7: didn't make you go viral.
Speaker 3: And I was cool, d DJ the friend, it's my space,
Speaker 3: party space like that, you know, with me yourself.
Speaker 2: That's crazy. How I met Tito, Oh yeah, because he
Speaker 2: don't work. I was I was on my space. D
Speaker 2: j T Tito was running that to as well. So
Speaker 2: I had my man in in my space. He hears me.
Speaker 2: I don't.
Speaker 5: He hears me, and he's the biggest Norri fan. So
Speaker 5: that the nigga beefing me in my hood. He says,
Speaker 5: some ship pays.
Speaker 2: The race.
Speaker 11: Was like.
Speaker 2: I said, ship, He puts old type of Benny Hills
Speaker 2: ship on ship.
Speaker 3: You have.
Speaker 2: Used to be chasing the George All video never survived
Speaker 2: right now? Never white English, he's white. He was only
Speaker 2: he was. It was like the Wild channels thirteen static.
Speaker 2: They won't have to say for the son this watch
Speaker 2: they used to come on man static In my career,
Speaker 2: I just have to tune it up, like ship, what's this?
Speaker 2: You turn the chand news you can just see some boobs.
Speaker 22: Will turn and like we in that generation we got
Speaker 22: the that that it was like only and not only
Speaker 22: like it was that era for your kid walking.
Speaker 2: Around seeing you you in the crib like late night?
Speaker 2: What the hell? We was like, oh my, I don't
Speaker 2: know that one.
Speaker 3: I know you?
Speaker 2: What's like I'm gonna put that?
Speaker 7: Was it?
Speaker 2: Hey? Man? Call down for I said, I I'm gonna
Speaker 2: take a big I gotta take a me. I got
Speaker 2: it all right.
Speaker 3: Look, so this is what I want to tell you.
Speaker 3: You said that you wasn't networking early on, not properly.
Speaker 3: You was. That's how I met you, thog. That is
Speaker 3: what I'm trying to say. Like when you say it,
Speaker 3: I'm like what.
Speaker 6: I started to figure it out as I progressed, because
Speaker 6: especially with DJ so DJ's I was always about. I
Speaker 6: was so culture driven. I wanted to know all the
Speaker 6: DJs and make all the mixtapes, all the drops.
Speaker 2: I probably wasn't networking with rappers the right way, especially
Speaker 2: not for relationships.
Speaker 7: You mean making a relationships that would have took me
Speaker 7: tall wise and different opportunities.
Speaker 6: I wasn't figuring that ship. I didn't understand it. We
Speaker 6: were sold us US like anybody else that I would
Speaker 6: see all the niggas that I should have been bonding
Speaker 6: with and not doing it. Yeah, like ye, I was saying,
Speaker 6: way because I did it and popped. We did it
Speaker 6: and was trying to go. I was getting stopped. You
Speaker 6: do it, then you could do what you want to.
Speaker 3: Do because I want to give them credit though, because
Speaker 3: I was working the Sony account, I worked at death
Speaker 3: Grim account.
Speaker 2: You know, I'm grinding. I'm doing my mixtape.
Speaker 3: Ship I go to I go to Queen and I mean,
Speaker 3: I don't know what the hostel was. It was in
Speaker 3: the middle of Queens and you came over to the
Speaker 3: hotel room. I had a little four tracks. I said, yo,
Speaker 3: come through. He just dropped math freestyles.
Speaker 2: I was like that back then. I wouldn't do a
Speaker 2: freestyle too on the track on the four track, like
Speaker 2: nine hundred from the beginning. But like back then, I
Speaker 2: was so culture driven I wanted to We've.
Speaker 3: Been connected ever since. I'm just saying that the networking side, like,
Speaker 3: we was connected ever since.
Speaker 2: He never fronted on me on nothing. I never I
Speaker 2: tried to not front I never did never always two three.
Speaker 2: That's true. It's true. And he's on your album. He's
Speaker 2: on my album. That's McGrath. Yeah. And to be at
Speaker 2: the YO.
Speaker 3: Growing up, I loved mcgrothe, I love macroth. So I hope,
Speaker 3: I hope that you knew how important that record was
Speaker 3: to me, that I could find McGruff because it wasn't
Speaker 3: really doing a lot my album. To get my girlf
Speaker 3: on the record, get you on this credit and Homie
Speaker 3: from Miami on it. The record is incredible. What happened
Speaker 3: to the dudes? Honestly that back then? Oh no they
Speaker 3: still they still still it was dopey press p no
Speaker 3: may they still? Yeah they were strange music. No, they
Speaker 3: still killedgers. Everybody brought around me was cool.
Speaker 6: I remember they all the niggas I connected with, cool
Speaker 6: guys facts indeed, yeah, word so graph man, Yes, I
Speaker 6: want to salute you man, face to face, man man
Speaker 6: and tell you, like, you know, the career, the path
Speaker 6: and the.
Speaker 5: Resistance that you chose, some people would have gave up,
Speaker 5: you know, like you know, competing with I don't want
Speaker 5: to say competing with fift deep because that's what people
Speaker 5: had jock compete right right right, you know what I mean.
Speaker 5: I don't think you were, but and then seeing like
Speaker 5: you know, the different paths, some people would be like, man,
Speaker 5: fuck that. You know what, I'm go back to the
Speaker 5: streets fully right.
Speaker 2: You didn't.
Speaker 5: You waited patiently, and I like, I like to pick
Speaker 5: up this other boys because I feel like at that
Speaker 5: very moment when they started to like you know, you know,
Speaker 5: become and bars started to come back, right you know, uh,
Speaker 5: I felt like that that was when your time like
Speaker 5: kind of emerged back and it was like, all right, cool,
Speaker 5: this is where I belong. And then you got cool
Speaker 5: with them brothers. And so basically what I'm trying to
Speaker 5: say is I'm proud of you. You know, continue to
Speaker 5: do what you gotta do, continue to be a bar lord,
Speaker 5: because it's not it's not that easy to be a
Speaker 5: lyrical guy. Like the lyrical guys are like, like, you know,
Speaker 5: you know, I love Nas, and I remember me hearing
Speaker 5: Nas and being hanging with Nas and us going to
Speaker 5: the clubs together and not hearing his records right at
Speaker 5: all because he was too He wasn't a club Yeah,
Speaker 5: at that time, he was too lyrical. You know what's
Speaker 5: crazy for the club when you like, even how my
Speaker 5: brain thinks on some lyrical shit, right, it's so much
Speaker 5: easier for me to be lyrical. It takes me a
Speaker 5: lot of effort and energy to dumb it down to me,
Speaker 5: that simplified that my brain takes me. It's way harder.
Speaker 5: Somethings as simple as fuck, and it works for them,
Speaker 5: and to be complex takes them harder. I'm already think
Speaker 5: so complex and make it simple, I'm like, it takes
Speaker 5: me long to do that. You know what I'm saying,
Speaker 5: So I'm in this space now, I'm comfortable just doing
Speaker 5: what the fuck I want to do. It's great because,
Speaker 5: like I said, when I was listening, I'm just studying you.
Speaker 5: And I'm like, man, this guy might be smarter than
Speaker 5: ninety percent of the room.
Speaker 2: When you like, no, no, no, no. I'm talking about
Speaker 2: when you listen to your music.
Speaker 5: Like I'm just saying, you listen to your music, and
Speaker 5: I'm a rapper and cultural popular belief, I'm a rappers rapper,
Speaker 5: you know. And then and then I wanted to I
Speaker 5: liked the clubs, and I'm like, now, but you culture though,
Speaker 5: niggas is culture?
Speaker 2: Tell you is I'm studying you because no one knowing
Speaker 2: that this interview is coming up. And I'm like, damn,
Speaker 2: ship kind of.
Speaker 5: Goes above my head at times. And I know, I know,
Speaker 5: even if I don't understand, I understand, you understand what
Speaker 5: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: So I'm like, is he almost too good? M hm,
Speaker 7: that's crazy for his own good? Or or is it
Speaker 7: it's the time now at that time, he was too good.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying. I'm trying to say it
Speaker 2: maybe ahead of my time. Maybe that's that's thank you man,
Speaker 2: that's it. That's what it was. All that all that
Speaker 2: stuff is working now.
Speaker 6: Yes, yes, Like I'm even taking some of the old
Speaker 6: ship and re releasing it now or rebitting it now
Speaker 6: because I'm like, Okay, I didn't get it, but I'm
Speaker 6: gonna right now.
Speaker 2: It was like, graph, you're getting better. What did you change? Nothing? Nigga,
Speaker 2: you're just listening different than that. You pay attition.
Speaker 7: You remember these Gen X kids, Man, these dudes they
Speaker 7: want to hear that lirical content because all these kids
Speaker 7: hear is how they didn't live in the Golden era.
Speaker 2: So when they get that, they appreciate. You know what
Speaker 2: I'm saying.
Speaker 7: It's like when you go overseas, how do you feel like, damn,
Speaker 7: they appreciate music more than we're back home. That's how
Speaker 7: it is with the kids now with the lirical content,
Speaker 7: they're gonna choose.
Speaker 2: I never heard it in that content because they never
Speaker 2: had it.
Speaker 12: Appreciate, Like when you go overseas, they appreciate everything.
Speaker 3: I always think about it just because just because you
Speaker 3: you just take it for granted.
Speaker 2: They didn't have it so cool, be right. The next generation,
Speaker 2: the younger didn't. They didn't have either and.
Speaker 7: Everybody tell them like, Yo, the Golden that was it was,
Speaker 7: it was it. So when they get it, they appreciate it.
Speaker 2: You know what I'm saying.
Speaker 6: When I really learned that what he's saying to this tour,
Speaker 6: they were jointing Lucas, shout out to joint that again.
Speaker 5: Man, big up to joint Lucas. I wanted to shoot
Speaker 5: my video drink man, he would it.
Speaker 7: Yeah.
Speaker 6: Yeah, but this tall his fans, a lot of young
Speaker 6: fans that really give a fuck about hip hop. The
Speaker 6: kids just going crazy here on my ship for the
Speaker 6: first time. Yo, I just downloaded through your albums. Your
Speaker 6: ship is crazy. By the time I get to the
Speaker 6: meet and greet, they know the whole ship. Oh I
Speaker 6: listened to the ship in the car is crazy. Like
Speaker 6: I made so many fans on that tour. It's crazy, bro,
Speaker 6: And I like, I appreciate it. And it's seeing this
Speaker 6: generation how they take it to the bars and fucking
Speaker 6: with it. It's like, I'm got to change it, nigga.
Speaker 2: I'm gonna.
Speaker 5: It's a new generation. It's not like I wanted to
Speaker 5: claim yet, like that fame, like as me being like
Speaker 5: you know, you know, war Report being a part of
Speaker 5: that mob deep era. I wanted to claim that, but
Speaker 5: I can't.
Speaker 2: We can't.
Speaker 5: It's y'all new era. Y'all got a new era and
Speaker 5: a new style of doing that. And I appreciate it,
Speaker 5: you know what I'm saying. I appreciate like I appreciate
Speaker 5: hearing lyrics like contrary probably too.
Speaker 2: I'm at the party, though, but listen party, I'm the
Speaker 2: That's a fact.
Speaker 3: I mean.
Speaker 5: I also I also ride in my car and when
Speaker 5: they hit, also go to the sauna. I want to
Speaker 5: listen to some ship that made me think.
Speaker 2: So you're providing that, Thank you, man.
Speaker 3: But hold up, guys, we can't underestimate the thing is,
Speaker 3: this is the problem we've had in a long time
Speaker 3: hip hop. Hip Hop has divided itself between major cities.
Speaker 2: And this is what I think.
Speaker 3: Tech nine has shown that major cities don't mean much
Speaker 3: because you go into Middle America and Middle America wants
Speaker 3: something too.
Speaker 2: And I think you've seen this as well when you've
Speaker 2: been talking. So I've been on it like that, and
Speaker 2: this is what I think.
Speaker 3: We understand that hip hop lives everywhere in the United States, everywhere.
Speaker 2: In the world by far.
Speaker 3: But I'm saying here right now we're here, and they
Speaker 3: love lyrics, they love hip hop, they love the Golden Era,
Speaker 3: they love they want that. What you're saying though, that
Speaker 3: they didn't have that, They didn't live it. So the
Speaker 3: New General and then his parents and these markets they're like,
Speaker 3: oh man, you and they raising their kids on that.
Speaker 7: That's all right because they miss it now and you
Speaker 7: got to remember, you know, and not era.
Speaker 2: It was kind of.
Speaker 7: It was about lyrics, but it also was about who
Speaker 7: you was down with and who did the bet.
Speaker 2: It is a look at your at your credits R.
Speaker 2: Such and such. Oh he can get a Swiss beat
Speaker 2: like just blaze, Kanye primoin't.
Speaker 7: Do it that shit trash today these kids don't even
Speaker 7: it was Ship who did it?
Speaker 2: The kid that Kios and them all did the beat.
Speaker 2: They don't even know.
Speaker 7: That's why I believe it's only two kinds of music today,
Speaker 7: good and not good.
Speaker 2: That's it. I agree the facts. I agree with.
Speaker 5: Yeah, your graph. We want you to know, man, this
Speaker 5: is your house. Thank you to be proud of you.
Speaker 2: Big up your new single right rock and fell the chain,
Speaker 2: rocking fella in the video My Nigga Freeway p D
Speaker 2: Cracking Rag bleak.
Speaker 8: Talking crazy.
Speaker 2: Outside bruh, you gotta do buld just scratch.
Speaker 3: You'll thank y'all, thank you for co hot. That's the
Speaker 3: name of the album because I'll be sucking up.
Speaker 2: Solid coming out soon and oh my god, let's let's
Speaker 2: end it with you.
Speaker 6: Come on, yeah, I'll be I'm bad at marketing ship,
Speaker 6: which I'm good at rapping, but I'm not a fucking
Speaker 6: pr person marking on that ship.
Speaker 2: Okay. Album is called God's Timing.
Speaker 6: Produced fully produced by thirty eight Special Fire that the
Speaker 6: man was on the first single, Tyler Colly is the
Speaker 6: second one.
Speaker 2: I just did one with Jim Jones.
Speaker 6: It's crazy and we gotta be on all your other
Speaker 6: album He's on every album other day.
Speaker 2: He's not on this one. He's on the next thing.
Speaker 2: We're gonna drop on the next album.
Speaker 1: That's the only reason, the only reason you gotta getta one.
Speaker 2: Is on the last one.
Speaker 6: Him and store Guard the record on the last one
Speaker 6: at thirty produced that too. This is the only album
Speaker 6: you ever dropped. Didn't have one on it because he
Speaker 6: on the record that I didn't put on that remix.
Speaker 6: It's coming on the next album.
Speaker 7: They want a ski because I'm only we gotta do that.
Speaker 7: I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm shot. Sorry that a graf man.
Speaker 2: I see mom on all of this ship. I said,
Speaker 2: don't grabh punch back, put out every doing it. I
Speaker 2: got on points by your ship. You shipp back.
Speaker 1: Ship Yeah, nipples to get it out, to get this up,
Speaker 1: hang out with rocking full you go to.
Speaker 2: Bake he's rocking. Oh yeah, remember I'm watching I see
Speaker 2: the sevens that your niggas. Oh yeah, I was dame.
Speaker 2: I used to go, yeah, now Dame, he himself. Hallo niggas.
Speaker 2: Those niggas, don't niggas cut it out to change. I
Speaker 2: love it great.
Speaker 3: You know I lie, you couldn't sing and they feelings
Speaker 3: hurt the Rockefeller I'll been like this rack.
Speaker 2: Been the wall listen, it would have been proud niggas
Speaker 2: crime and my wife saying, you know when you look good,
Speaker 2: that's good.
Speaker 7: Her approval is like a funk what anybody said? You
Speaker 7: know what I'm saying, wife saying, oh yeah, so my
Speaker 7: time talking with your boy man.
Speaker 6: So you download the ship Man, it's fucking incredible ro
Speaker 6: hip hop by his fine and now I give it up.
Speaker 2: The album is crazy.
Speaker 6: The second that I'm already working on my next time
Speaker 6: after this first single on that got joining the Lucas
Speaker 6: on it. Shout out to my boy joined up One
Speaker 6: Bees on that album. Of course one is on that
Speaker 6: and I'm just cooking the rest of it right now.
Speaker 6: But this ship is incredible. Man's the four row hip
Speaker 6: hop man support independence all that this ship.
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