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Speaker 2: I love that this happened. I love that this did
Speaker 2: not result in some Hollywood breakup. It'd be a shame.
Speaker 2: What are we doing?
Speaker 3: He was gonna leave the Rams, He's gonna take his
Speaker 3: family and move to some other team and moved to
Speaker 3: Jersey or something because of money at this point, like,
Speaker 3: you are so deep in your career, your super Bowl champion,
Speaker 3: you're respected. It's this great marriage with McVeigh. Don't leave
Speaker 3: because you couldn't come to money terms. There's reasons you
Speaker 3: want to leave, not because of money. And the fact is,
Speaker 3: like if you look into it, third stops very rarely work.
Speaker 3: I don't know if it would have worked out well
Speaker 3: where if he goes into the Giants or any but
Speaker 3: it very rarely works.
Speaker 2: There's rare cases.
Speaker 3: Carson Palmer and Kurt Warner Wholena in the third stop.
Speaker 3: We thought we had one last year with Russell Wilson
Speaker 3: and completely fell apart.
Speaker 2: Odds are new team, new coach. It would not have
Speaker 2: worked out. This works. Why would you want to break
Speaker 2: this up?
Speaker 3: I understand money. I'm not talking about somebody else's money.
Speaker 3: But I'm just glad that wouldn't be the reason they
Speaker 3: leave a bad taste in every NFL fans mouth and guys,
Speaker 3: I mean, you were there. Yeah, I thought he was
Speaker 3: gonna beat the Eagles. He's pitted that team on his
Speaker 3: shoulder in lat few minutes. I'm like, Stafford's gonna win
Speaker 3: this game. This is gonna be incredible. Jalen Carter decided,
Speaker 3: now I'm gonna call a game. But Stafford was great.
Speaker 3: I think we averted a football shame. I would not
Speaker 3: want to see Stafford leave this town, leave this team now.
Speaker 2: Ian McMahon take another run a bright.
Speaker 3: VOCs fifty two days until the twenty twenty five NFL Draft,
Speaker 3: and my favorite player in this year's draft is the
Speaker 3: running back from Arizona State by way of Sacramento State
Speaker 3: named Cameron Scataboo. Okay, I love this guy. He's my
Speaker 3: favorite player. He's my favorite player maybe in years. But
Speaker 3: I've been noticing something in the analysis of Cam Scataboo
Speaker 3: that's starting to percolate a little bits that I want
Speaker 3: to get ahead of, and I want to nip in
Speaker 3: the bud and I want to make a little bit
Speaker 3: of public service announcement about it. Ladies and gentlemen, I
Speaker 3: am not gonna sit here for the next fifty two
Speaker 3: days and hear the name Cameron's Scott in the same
Speaker 3: sentence as deceptively fast or sneaky athletic. It's already happening,
Speaker 3: and I don't like it, and I don't like where
Speaker 3: it's going, especially not after what he did as Arizona State,
Speaker 3: not after what he did in Indianapolis over the weekend.
Speaker 2: There is nothing, Remember what I'm saying.
Speaker 3: There is nothing sneaky about a forty inch vertical jump
Speaker 3: thirty nine point five.
Speaker 2: This guy just jumped.
Speaker 3: That is better than Adrian Peterson, than Jamal Charles, than Marshawn.
Speaker 2: It's better than.
Speaker 3: Christian McCaffrey, who I personally thought drove a steak through
Speaker 3: the entire heart of the sneaky athletic joke industry.
Speaker 2: But we're still here, and I need to stop. All right,
Speaker 2: It's not funny anymore. We knew it for years. It's
Speaker 2: not applicable here. Don't do it. How do I know?
Speaker 3: Because when I posted my excitement over Scataboo's vertical on
Speaker 3: social media this weekend, the very.
Speaker 2: First response I got was here.
Speaker 3: Check out the response, Mike Garafalo, downright sneaky athletic Mike.
Speaker 2: Oh, Mike, you're not helping. You helping, Mike, you should
Speaker 2: know better.
Speaker 3: You're encouraging the online lemmings to make the same dumb
Speaker 3: joke about Cam Scattaboo. Mike, I'm putting you to attention.
Speaker 3: Don't do that anymore. I am tabooing all of the cliches.
Speaker 3: When I hear talk about Cam Scattubu, I want to
Speaker 3: hear about his incredible tackle breaking, his strength, his breakaways all.
Speaker 3: I do not want to hear in your analysis that
Speaker 3: he is a Jim racked, a coach on the field,
Speaker 3: that he has a great motor. I don't want to
Speaker 3: hear that Cam Scataboo is the son of a coach.
Speaker 2: You know why, because he's not. I did the research.
Speaker 3: His dad's name is Leonard Scataboo, and he works in
Speaker 3: pest control. God bless him, because that's exactly what we
Speaker 3: need right now. In the analysis of his son, pest control,
Speaker 3: spray him, kill him dead. Including this Cam Scataboo comps
Speaker 3: are driving me crazy, and I'm gonna pull from this
Speaker 3: very table. During the commercial break over the next fifty
Speaker 3: Listen to me, look at me, Look at me.
Speaker 2: Don't look at your phone. Look at me. Over the
Speaker 2: next fifty two days.
Speaker 3: I do not want to hear the name Toby Heart
Speaker 3: a single time.
Speaker 2: Don't say it.
Speaker 3: If you're saying it about cam Scataboo, you're mailing in
Speaker 3: your analysis. You're lazy. They're not close to the same prospect.
Speaker 3: While I'm at it, while I have you, do not
Speaker 3: utter the name Peyton hillis in my presence.
Speaker 2: Stop it. I'm looking at you, Kessler.
Speaker 3: Cam Scataboo is five nine nineteen. Peyton hillis went six
Speaker 3: two two fifty. It's an idiotic comparison. Do better than
Speaker 3: just scrolling your nostalgia rolodex for the fastest meathead cracker
Speaker 3: you can find.
Speaker 2: All right, you have to do better there. Oh, he's
Speaker 2: a Peyton hillis. He's nothing like Peyton Hills.
Speaker 3: He's exactly one thing in common with Peyton Hills.
Speaker 2: And you know what it is, sneaky athletic hits running. Yes,
Speaker 2: he has two things. He's a running back in the
Speaker 2: other thing.
Speaker 3: Lastly, okay, it is possible. I'm gonna try to stay
Speaker 3: calm now. I'm trying to work on my breathing good.
Speaker 3: It is possible to describe and analyze young Cameron Scataboo
Speaker 3: without mentioning.
Speaker 2: The name Mike Allstotts. No one loves Mike Alstott more
Speaker 2: than me.
Speaker 3: Mike Alstott had four inches and thirty pounds on Scataboo. Guys,
Speaker 3: just speaking purely in the football sense, it's not the comp.
Speaker 3: He ran a totally different offense coming out of college
Speaker 3: at Purdue in a totally different sports back in the nineties.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: I also believe Scattaboo is faster than all Stott was,
Speaker 3: and we'll see that when he eventually runs of forty.
Speaker 2: No one loves Mike l Stott more than me. I'll
Speaker 2: talk about.
Speaker 3: Mike Allstott all year long, but not when we're talking
Speaker 3: about this Arizona State running back.
Speaker 2: All right.
Speaker 3: Now, you might say, well, we have to have comps.
Speaker 2: Who we're going to compare him to. You just mentioned
Speaker 2: all the white guys. Who's leapt or we do.
Speaker 3: Never mind that, Let's talk about the here's what we do.
Speaker 2: H I got some comps for you.
Speaker 3: Mark Ingram is a comp for Cam Scattaboo, very similar size,
Speaker 3: same kind of angry runner. You want another comp Frank
Speaker 3: Gore incredible balance on a smaller guy, just won't go down.
Speaker 3: You think it's a three yard day, and all of
Speaker 3: a sudden it's second and two and.
Speaker 2: He gained eight yards.
Speaker 3: Similar there, And yes, Cam Scataboo has some Marshawn Lynch
Speaker 3: and I'm not the personality. He's not as fast, but wild, fierce,
Speaker 3: almost messy runs that almost exactly the same weight as Marshaan. So, guys,
Speaker 3: I hope you're picking up what I'm putting down. And
Speaker 3: I'm not talking. I'm talking to the table actually, and
Speaker 3: I'm also talking to the world's table that is right
Speaker 3: out there. I don't want to hear it anymore, all right,
Speaker 3: I don't want to all those names I listed, all the.
Speaker 2: Sneaky fat blah blah blah.
Speaker 3: I get the joke. I got the joke years I've
Speaker 3: made the joke. I'm just not making about Cam scadboo.
Speaker 3: He's better than that. Up your analysis, class up the
Speaker 3: joint for once, because I'm not here for Unprecedented to
Speaker 3: be Dion's sun. We've seen a lot of legendaries player's
Speaker 3: sons come through Dion. It's like being Blue Ivy or
Speaker 3: something like that's like, you know what I'm saying, Like,
Speaker 3: i'mon Sanders kid of the football. I think that is
Speaker 3: really the comp like my mom's Beyonce, my dad's Dion.
Speaker 3: And yet what I like about it is that you think, well,
Speaker 3: he's he's he grew up rich and he's famous, and
Speaker 3: Shaduur in primetime and all that. Like he got the
Speaker 3: crap kicked out of him in college, crap kicked out
Speaker 3: him physically mentally.
Speaker 2: They lost a lot of games of.
Speaker 3: Colorado that he started, and he got up every single time.
Speaker 3: This is not someone who is a prima donna, who
Speaker 3: is none of that stuff. That's difficult to raise someone
Speaker 3: with that type of fame and wealth and make them
Speaker 3: physically tough. That's parenting. Like that's that's really really impressive.
Speaker 3: So I'd like to say, I was going to say,
Speaker 3: you know, be interesting to see Shadur Sanders, the son
Speaker 3: of a god, come into the NFL and struggle. He's
Speaker 3: already struggled and he's already shown that he could bounce
Speaker 3: back from it. I'm really impressed with him, really impressed
Speaker 3: watching the Jets just continue to burn down this old
Speaker 3: regime from last year.
Speaker 2: It's kind of sad. It's like happening in slow motion.
Speaker 3: I feel like I'm reminded of Good Fellows when they
Speaker 3: just start finding all the bodies in the garbage truck
Speaker 3: on the gas and it's like Jimmy was cutting ties
Speaker 3: from the robbery.
Speaker 2: It's like they should be playing Laylags. I mean, it's
Speaker 2: really sad.
Speaker 3: But the Rogers thing is still sitting there, and he's
Speaker 3: wherever he is, in Malibu or something, and just thinking
Speaker 3: about these things. I don't love the Giants for him,
Speaker 3: And I think right now the way I would disc
Speaker 3: in my mind for Rodgers is like I don't think
Speaker 3: he's actively looking to join another team. I think he's
Speaker 3: a single guy in his forties and he doesn't even
Speaker 3: have a dating app. He's not going out to the bars.
Speaker 3: He's kind of just sitting around. And if someone calls
Speaker 3: and loves him and says, yeah, we love you and
Speaker 3: we have money and we have this and we have that,
Speaker 3: whether it's the Raiders of the Giants, then maybe.
Speaker 2: Or maybe he just hangs it up.
Speaker 3: I just need I need something better than He already
Speaker 3: has a house in New Jersey.
Speaker 2: I get that, and it's cute. It's the way we
Speaker 2: track these things. But okay, so he has a house.
Speaker 3: In New Jersey that he could sell in five seconds,
Speaker 3: or that he's maybe rented. I have no idea, just
Speaker 3: that you want to join the Giants. They've been bad
Speaker 3: for ten years. He doesn't really know their people. He
Speaker 3: doesn't he doesn't have a deep history.
Speaker 2: With their coach.
Speaker 3: They're probably not going to be great this year, so
Speaker 3: he wants they're probably gonna be on hard knocks again,
Speaker 3: Like he wants to sign up.
Speaker 2: For all that stuff. Like we just did this movie.
Speaker 2: It didn't end well.
Speaker 3: I would be very, very very surprised to be joined
Speaker 3: the Giants.
Speaker 2: Now.
Speaker 3: I think La was fascinating and I think that was
Speaker 3: tasty and appealing and everything. But to that point, I
Speaker 3: also don't know if Aaron Rodgers is in the business
Speaker 3: of following around Matthew Stafford and picking up his scraps,
Speaker 3: like well, I'll wait, so'll see what happens with Stafford,
Speaker 3: and then I'll be So this is Aaron bleeping Rogers
Speaker 3: like this, This is not someone who waits to make
Speaker 3: ether people dictate his moves. I think he's sitting around
Speaker 3: and he's healthy, and he's in shape and looking.
Speaker 2: To play football.
Speaker 3: But unless something absolutely perfect opens up, I don't think
Speaker 3: he will again. And I can't describe the twenty twenty
Speaker 3: five New York Giants as absolutely perfect. You're also on
Speaker 3: record saying that you thought you had seen Aaron Rodgers
Speaker 3: play his last night of football.
Speaker 2: Do you still stand by that? And you're just flirting
Speaker 2: with this?
Speaker 3: Yeah, if you got to take a shot where it's
Speaker 3: like you throw it in one of the baskets, done playing, Giants, Raiders,
Speaker 3: I put Steelers, whoever you want. I'm still putting it
Speaker 3: and done playing. I think he's played twenty seasons. I
Speaker 3: think he went out with his boots on. He started
Speaker 3: every single game he played, Okay, threw a couple pets
Speaker 3: as past as the Davante, and I think he went
Speaker 3: out with respect. I think he's done personally, and as
Speaker 3: I said before, I hope he's done.
Speaker 2: I don't want to see Aaron Rodgers on the Giants
Speaker 2: next year.
Speaker 3: Guys' forty one years old season twenty one on a
Speaker 3: team that probably won't be I just I'm good with it.
Speaker 3: I want to talk about Deebo, and I need to
Speaker 3: talk to Deebo a little bit, so I just I
Speaker 3: look at the Samuel right now, and it's just this
Speaker 3: big question of motivation, chip on the shoulder, all that
Speaker 3: as he goes to a new team with a year
Speaker 3: left on his deal and everything to prove. I remember
Speaker 3: when Deebo exploded, and he was really one of the
Speaker 3: biggest stories in the league, and he was an unbelievably
Speaker 3: cool players unique. It was like a running back, plain
Speaker 3: wide receiver, and he's got this cool name that ties
Speaker 3: into pop culture, and we just we celebrated Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 3: And I think the Internet loved Deebo sam I think
Speaker 3: social media.
Speaker 2: Loved Deebo Samuel.
Speaker 3: I looked at Deebo Samuel and social media yesterday. Holy crap,
Speaker 3: it's a wasteland and Deebo, Like, I want to make
Speaker 3: sure to talk to him, just so he knows.
Speaker 2: And this is gonna seem a little gratuitous.
Speaker 3: And a little cold, but I just watched Jalen Hurtz
Speaker 3: go win a Super Bowl because he's got a picture
Speaker 3: on a screen saver of him losing a Super Bowl, Like,
Speaker 3: do you know what they're saying about Deebo out there?
Speaker 3: Just so as you go to your new experience, Deebo
Speaker 3: with a new quarterback and a new team in a
Speaker 3: new reality. I just want to make sure you know
Speaker 3: all of the stuff in.
Speaker 2: The way that they like.
Speaker 3: There are really three groups of people in the internet,
Speaker 3: jokesters and the way that they talk about Debos Samuel.
Speaker 2: Here's the three groups.
Speaker 3: People who say you are washed, people who say you
Speaker 3: are fat, and then people who say you are both.
Speaker 2: That's the groups out there.
Speaker 3: Now, there's those subgroups that say you are really a
Speaker 3: product of Kyle Shanahan's ingenuity and you're not't really as
Speaker 3: good as your.
Speaker 2: Production was, it was a shanhan thing.
Speaker 3: Then there's ones who call you Timu Percy Harvin with
Speaker 3: the body of James Harden.
Speaker 2: These are not my takes. I don't believe this. I
Speaker 2: like Debo.
Speaker 3: He is an anger runs winner, he is a really
Speaker 3: cool thing. We've celebrated him a lot on the show.
Speaker 3: But if I am Debo and I'm sitting there saying, like,
Speaker 3: what is my motivation for this year above and beyond it,
Speaker 3: just look at that stuff, because that's how they look
Speaker 3: at you, right or wrong.
Speaker 2: I don't agree with it.
Speaker 3: It's not just idiots either, real legitimate tim Kamakami journalist says,
Speaker 3: like Deebos twenty pounds overweight, He's out there talking about
Speaker 3: this guy who covers the team, who knows the team.
Speaker 2: So maybe there's reality in it, maybe there's not.
Speaker 3: The point is, if you're Deebo Samuel and people are
Speaker 3: saying you have the body of Chris from Family Guy,
Speaker 3: and you're supposed to be a Greek god and the
Speaker 3: best playmaker in the league, take all that this or
Speaker 3: screen cap it and keep it on your phone or
Speaker 3: keep it in your locker, keep it because you are
Speaker 3: way better than that. And as a show, and me
Speaker 3: as a person, I like you and I'm rooting for you.
Speaker 3: But when you go to Washington and you go to
Speaker 3: Jade and your new fan base, remember all those things
Speaker 3: that they're saying, and go make plays and shut them
Speaker 3: the hell up. I love watching the forties so much,
Speaker 3: just as the television products.
Speaker 2: It's it's to the.
Speaker 3: Point now where it's almost like The Masters. To me,
Speaker 3: it's almost soothing, Like I like the way that Rich
Speaker 3: and DJ talk about it.
Speaker 2: I do. I like it. Yeah, the forty is like
Speaker 2: the Masters to you, well, you.
Speaker 3: Know how, Like it's just it's Rich and DJ kind of.
Speaker 2: Talking these whispers.
Speaker 3: Oh, I say, yeah, it's like it's soothing as a
Speaker 3: television broadcast.
Speaker 2: I got you.
Speaker 3: But you could do a blind test where when you
Speaker 3: watch the guys run, based just on Daniel Jeremiah Richison's reactions,
Speaker 3: you can tell what they ran. Like there's the four
Speaker 3: to four reaction, it's kind of like, oh nice, and
Speaker 3: then when one of those guys hits four to three,
Speaker 3: they go all right. Then it's when that rare four
Speaker 3: to two club hits, it's just wow. Matthew Golden from
Speaker 3: Texas is in the four to two club.
Speaker 2: Four two nine. It's entry level four two club, but
Speaker 2: we don't frown on it. Four two nine.
Speaker 3: Listen, I know everybody's getting faster, and the evolution of
Speaker 3: the athlete is crazy.
Speaker 2: Four two is still four to two.
Speaker 3: It's still absolutely outlandish. And I can't think of a
Speaker 3: better time for a Texas wide receiver to run four
Speaker 3: to two than about twenty minutes ago. There was a
Speaker 3: Texas wide receiver in the Super Bowl on the end
Speaker 3: of a beatdown from the Eagles who was still making
Speaker 3: plays at the end of the game and the post
Speaker 3: Xavier Worthy, I run a four to two coming from
Speaker 3: Texas World, in which Mahomes and Reid at Al made
Speaker 3: a thing out of him in a really good rookie
Speaker 3: year and one of the only guys in the Chiefs
Speaker 3: who felt like making a play in the Super Bowl.
Speaker 3: I'm thinking there, Matthew Gol, I'm like, I know that dude,
Speaker 3: I know that program, I know that speed. I think
Speaker 3: as a guy who was looked at as a really
Speaker 3: good wide receiver forty eight hours ago, I still think
Speaker 3: there's something wildly seductive about the numbers four and two
Speaker 3: for any sort of GM.
Speaker 2: They see that and it's like they can't resist it.
Speaker 2: It's that bug lamp, you know that sucks you in
Speaker 2: on the porch. They know it's going to kill them,
Speaker 2: but they have to get to it.
Speaker 3: They see four two and they're like, READO our whole board.
Speaker 3: I want to draft Matthew Golden from Texas. Anytime you
Speaker 3: cook that things, that's going to get you drafted high.
Speaker 3: I think he did huge favors of himself this weekend.
Speaker 3: We're in the Superman era. Now, this isn't the new normal.
Speaker 3: It's obviously you mentioned Mahomes and Josh Allen, but I
Speaker 3: remember sitting here last year and I think it was
Speaker 3: Daniel Jeremiah was talking about Drake May and he was
Speaker 3: calling him he's a big game hunter, you know, like
Speaker 3: he chucks it deep to try.
Speaker 2: To make the big play. There's not a lot of.
Speaker 3: Conservative quarterback play that's being rewarded right now.
Speaker 2: It's not the stage of like, well we.
Speaker 3: Missed it, let's punt, let's get it the next time,
Speaker 3: throw it away. It's really I look at the quarterbacks
Speaker 3: and the playoffs and even young Jane Daniels and Lamar,
Speaker 3: these guys are making spectacular plays all the time. So
Speaker 3: there's a little bit of a keeping up with that
Speaker 3: that I want a superman factor. I want a guy
Speaker 3: who says, you know what, I've grew up here that
Speaker 3: I'm not supposed to throw late across the middle, but
Speaker 3: I got my guy there and I think I can
Speaker 3: make the throw.
Speaker 2: And only think we're kind of arriving in a new era.
Speaker 3: I feel like the plays are much more spectacular, more
Speaker 3: often than they were even ten years ago.
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