WEBVTT - Hey JP Saxe! 0:00:11.350 --> 0:00:14.590 Well, hello, guys. Here we are. What a week it's been, Kev. 0:00:14.990 --> 0:00:20.940 It's been something. People really... Delete the thread! People have 0:00:20.980 --> 0:00:24.640 been talking. Yes, they have. Oh, man. It's our first 0:00:25.680 --> 0:00:30.960 kind of major viral moment on the podcast. We've had moments. 0:00:31.270 --> 0:00:34.210 But that's something, huh? It's just unfortunate that the New 0:00:34.229 --> 0:00:36.790 York Giants have banned us from ever coming to any 0:00:36.810 --> 0:00:37.290 more games. 0:00:37.670 --> 0:00:41.110 Just kidding. How do you feel being a celebrity now? 0:00:41.670 --> 0:00:44.590 It's so different. My life is so different. Guys, it's 0:00:44.610 --> 0:00:47.350 Halloween in days. What are you going to be doing 0:00:47.450 --> 0:00:48.020 for Halloween? 0:00:48.590 --> 0:00:51.480 I am going to be with my kiddos. So I'm 0:00:51.500 --> 0:00:54.100 going to be in London, fly back. This is kind 0:00:54.120 --> 0:00:56.360 of a crazy travel day, but I'm going to do it. 0:00:57.170 --> 0:00:58.530 I'm going to be with my kiddos, and then I'm 0:00:58.550 --> 0:01:00.170 going to get on a plane. I'm going to fly 0:01:00.190 --> 0:01:02.190 to New York, and then I'm going to take my 0:01:03.090 --> 0:01:06.009 godson and goddaughter trick-or-treating. 0:01:06.410 --> 0:01:08.700 Fantastic. Fantastic. And then I'm going to get on a 0:01:08.720 --> 0:01:13.280 plane the next day, and we're going to fly to Milwaukee? Yes. Milwaukee. 0:01:13.700 --> 0:01:15.039 I'm going home to L.A. 0:01:15.240 --> 0:01:15.479 Nice. 0:01:15.580 --> 0:01:20.000 Trick-or-treating. Big trick-or-treating day. I'm doing a Diwali party. Oh, 0:01:20.040 --> 0:01:22.780 that's going to be— dude, the guest list is stacked. Stacked. 0:01:23.000 --> 0:01:28.840 Nick's got— Coming with a new girlfriend. And he's got 0:01:28.860 --> 0:01:31.819 a big celeb guest list. Wow, a lot of bigs. 0:01:31.840 --> 0:01:34.120 Big guest list. I'm going back for that. Bring your 0:01:34.180 --> 0:01:36.460 autograph books. And then I'm going to take Malte Marie 0:01:37.640 --> 0:01:41.649 trick-or-treating on the 30th because she and Priyanka are flying 0:01:41.730 --> 0:01:44.170 to Australia because Priyanka's starting a new movie. 0:01:44.350 --> 0:01:45.229 Wow. 0:01:45.250 --> 0:01:46.550 So she's going to fly on the 31st or 1st? 0:01:46.810 --> 0:01:51.830 She flies on the 31st. Fun. It's going to be 0:01:51.850 --> 0:01:54.300 a spooky flight. I bet she said that, didn't she? 0:01:54.470 --> 0:01:58.690 She's doing a movie called blue fly with russell crowe 0:01:59.090 --> 0:02:01.730 oh oh this is god it's gonna be sick can't 0:02:01.770 --> 0:02:05.880 wait for that she's been studying her script because she 0:02:05.890 --> 0:02:12.260 plays a uh an international translator cool so she's got 0:02:12.280 --> 0:02:15.500 to speak like seven or eight different languages casual she's 0:02:15.520 --> 0:02:18.899 incredible she blows me away that's great um anyway i'm 0:02:19.700 --> 0:02:21.260 gonna miss them but i get to see them for 0:02:21.280 --> 0:02:23.180 two days before they go and then we Come back 0:02:23.240 --> 0:02:23.680 on tour and. 0:02:23.960 --> 0:02:24.140 Lovely. 0:02:24.160 --> 0:02:24.560 It's great. 0:02:24.639 --> 0:02:26.780 Kevin, what about you? Very exciting. You know, big day. 0:02:27.200 --> 0:02:30.600 Halloween trick-or-treating. We actually... It's your daughter's birthday! It's daughter's birthday! 0:02:30.639 --> 0:02:31.240 That's right. 0:02:31.340 --> 0:02:33.690 It was just her birthday. But we're going to go 0:02:33.720 --> 0:02:36.350 kart racing, which is great. Then we're going trick-or-treating. But 0:02:36.389 --> 0:02:40.010 last night, we got, like, mischief night by our oldest daughter. 0:02:40.050 --> 0:02:40.669 She was at a sleepover. 0:02:40.690 --> 0:02:42.470 Oh, I saw you doing that. It looked like a 0:02:42.510 --> 0:02:44.700 lot of stuff to clean up. 0:02:45.130 --> 0:02:48.070 Yeah. It's all biodegradable. So, yes, our house got toilet 0:02:48.090 --> 0:02:50.109 papered by our daughter, who lives at the house. 0:02:50.570 --> 0:02:50.739 Is she. 0:02:51.960 --> 0:02:54.720 Cleaning this up? I did, in fact, say if you're 0:02:54.740 --> 0:02:55.799 going to do it, you're going to have to clean 0:02:55.860 --> 0:02:56.840 it up. But it was fun. 0:02:56.900 --> 0:02:58.760 We had a really good time. We shot off some 0:02:58.900 --> 0:02:59.820 confetti cannons and stuff. 0:03:00.120 --> 0:03:00.700 That's fun. 0:03:00.900 --> 0:03:05.010 Yeah, and then on the 31st, we're doing a virtual 0:03:05.030 --> 0:03:08.570 concert with a game on Roblox, which is cool. You've 0:03:08.610 --> 0:03:10.310 never been more excited about anything we've ever done. 0:03:10.470 --> 0:03:12.630 Can I put it this way? I always get on 0:03:12.730 --> 0:03:14.590 one tangent. And this is my one tangent. 0:03:14.630 --> 0:03:17.010 And I get really anxious and really nervous that I'm 0:03:17.030 --> 0:03:18.769 going to push this thing forward and it becomes a 0:03:18.970 --> 0:03:21.550 thing because I'm trying to make sure it goes well. 0:03:21.889 --> 0:03:23.970 And it becomes like my thing to own. And I 0:03:24.070 --> 0:03:26.290 feel pressure for it to go well. And so I 0:03:26.290 --> 0:03:27.839 don't mean for it to be a thing I talk 0:03:27.880 --> 0:03:30.760 about a lot. But I've taken ownership of it and 0:03:30.780 --> 0:03:32.720 I want it to be good. And sometimes that requires 0:03:32.760 --> 0:03:33.960 like making sure. 0:03:33.980 --> 0:03:36.100 I think you would like us to also be. 0:03:36.560 --> 0:03:38.520 No, I just don't want to make you guys be 0:03:38.560 --> 0:03:40.750 annoyed by it. The requests that are coming in, knowing 0:03:40.780 --> 0:03:41.990 it came more through me. 0:03:42.470 --> 0:03:44.410 Well, I think it's going to be amazing, just for 0:03:44.430 --> 0:03:47.530 the record. It's going to be great. Roblox, big fans. 0:03:47.670 --> 0:03:50.290 Steal the egg. Steal the egg. Steal an egg. Kevin 0:03:50.330 --> 0:03:53.090 should be an executive at your company. I'm just going 0:03:53.110 --> 0:03:55.130 to make my own games. We got Halloween. We got 0:03:55.170 --> 0:03:56.730 a very special guest on the pod today. One of 0:03:56.750 --> 0:03:59.130 our best friends. One of our very best friends. He's 0:03:59.150 --> 0:04:00.670 like a brother to us at this point. On the 0:04:00.690 --> 0:04:04.880 Halloween episode. Please welcome J.P. Sachs. J.P. Sachs! J.P. Sachs 0:04:05.130 --> 0:04:07.380 on the pod! He's our best. 0:04:07.120 --> 0:04:08.160 Friend, J.P. Sachs! 0:04:08.240 --> 0:04:10.510 Hi, fam! New album. 0:04:11.130 --> 0:04:12.090 Piano guy. 0:04:12.110 --> 0:04:13.270 Okay, piano guy. Out now. 0:04:13.950 --> 0:04:14.950 That was so well edited. 0:04:15.150 --> 0:04:18.310 Yeah, look at that. He's got the soundboard ready to go. 0:04:18.510 --> 0:04:20.800 This is impressive. You're on the Halloween episode. 0:04:20.810 --> 0:04:25.000 This is an official Halloween episode because technically Halloween's Saturday. 0:04:25.620 --> 0:04:26.060 I can't wait. 0:04:26.080 --> 0:04:27.900 Do you have any plans? 0:04:28.279 --> 0:04:30.300 Yes, I'm doing some shows in Toronto. We're going to 0:04:30.320 --> 0:04:31.500 do a theme. We're all going to dress up as 0:04:31.540 --> 0:04:33.900 our favorite characters from songs. I will be Piano Man. 0:04:34.710 --> 0:04:35.810 Fantastic. Wearing a piano? 0:04:36.839 --> 0:04:37.760 Just the Billy Joel suit. 0:04:38.020 --> 0:04:40.120 We went to your album release party last night. I 0:04:40.120 --> 0:04:42.250 should say, Joe and I did. Kevin went back to 0:04:42.290 --> 0:04:44.730 be with his family, which is the right thing to do. 0:04:44.990 --> 0:04:50.270 Lots of fun. Great spot. Is that where you're doing 0:04:50.290 --> 0:04:50.570 the shows? 0:04:50.810 --> 0:04:52.630 That is where I'm doing the shows. Dina's Tavern here 0:04:52.670 --> 0:04:53.010 in Toronto. 0:04:53.190 --> 0:04:55.510 Fantastic. It was a good vibe at the release party. 0:04:56.839 --> 0:05:00.080 And so thrilled for you. This is a huge moment. You're... 0:05:01.200 --> 0:05:02.900 New album is out. Go check it out if you 0:05:02.920 --> 0:05:06.950 haven't already. Our history goes back basically a year-ish. A 0:05:07.650 --> 0:05:08.110 year and a half. 0:05:08.130 --> 0:05:08.909 A year and a bit. A year and a half. 0:05:09.150 --> 0:05:11.310 You become like family to us, and we're glad to 0:05:11.330 --> 0:05:12.910 have you on the pod. It's long overdue. First time 0:05:12.930 --> 0:05:14.609 we ever hung out. We also hung out with your father. 0:05:15.070 --> 0:05:15.870 Yeah, he'll be here tonight. 0:05:16.050 --> 0:05:20.090 Fantastic. Your dad is so cool. So, life update. You've 0:05:20.130 --> 0:05:22.800 moved back to Toronto. Or you got a place here. Yes. 0:05:23.180 --> 0:05:25.720 I have some roots. I've not had a home in 0:05:25.740 --> 0:05:28.120 Toronto since I was 17 years old, 18 years old, 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:29.460 when I moved to Los Angeles. 0:05:29.480 --> 0:05:29.560 Wow. 0:05:29.860 --> 0:05:31.200 And every time I'd come back to Toronto, I would 0:05:31.220 --> 0:05:33.300 stay in hotel rooms because both of my parents had 0:05:34.000 --> 0:05:35.599 places that were too small for me to sleep in. 0:05:36.220 --> 0:05:37.300 So this is the first time in my life where 0:05:37.339 --> 0:05:38.960 I get to come back to Toronto as an adult 0:05:39.060 --> 0:05:40.370 and stay in a spot with my dad. And it's 0:05:40.380 --> 0:05:43.099 been very sentimental and beautiful, and I'm very grateful for it. 0:05:43.190 --> 0:05:44.229 It's a great city. Well-deserved. 0:05:44.290 --> 0:05:45.029 Lots of family moments. 0:05:45.050 --> 0:05:45.390 Welcome home. 0:05:45.529 --> 0:05:46.930 And I mean, y'all feel like family to me, too, 0:05:47.029 --> 0:05:50.130 in so many different ways. Even this album that I 0:05:50.170 --> 0:05:52.000 just put out. would not have been made in the 0:05:52.020 --> 0:05:53.960 way I made it if it had not been meeting 0:05:54.240 --> 0:05:56.100 the three of you and making music with you because 0:05:56.120 --> 0:05:58.450 I really tried to emulate the way we made music 0:05:58.510 --> 0:06:01.030 at our first camp in New York in the making 0:06:01.050 --> 0:06:01.330 of this album. 0:06:01.350 --> 0:06:02.670 The September camp. The September camp. 0:06:02.770 --> 0:06:03.050 Oh, yeah. 0:06:03.210 --> 0:06:05.550 What a great camp. Which a lot of music that 0:06:05.610 --> 0:06:07.820 we're putting on our new album came out of. 0:06:08.029 --> 0:06:11.150 First, for people that are listening or watching a writing camp, 0:06:11.390 --> 0:06:14.140 if they don't know, is when we would go to 0:06:14.180 --> 0:06:17.000 a special spot and have a studio and multiple writers 0:06:17.040 --> 0:06:19.380 all at one time, all writing, working towards a project. 0:06:19.790 --> 0:06:21.910 A lot of songs came out of it for your project. 0:06:21.930 --> 0:06:23.210 For, yeah, Sunday Best. 0:06:23.370 --> 0:06:25.030 Sunday Best, a lot of Jonas Brothers songs, a lot 0:06:25.070 --> 0:06:26.650 of Joe Jonas songs, D & C songs. 0:06:26.970 --> 0:06:30.450 I love the writing camp style because I feel like 0:06:30.490 --> 0:06:35.510 the momentum and the volume at which everyone's creating is 0:06:35.730 --> 0:06:38.310 really accelerating. It is efficient. And there's nothing else that 0:06:38.330 --> 0:06:40.250 you're supposed to be doing or that you should be doing. 0:06:40.870 --> 0:06:42.370 In other words, like, if you're just going for a 0:06:42.730 --> 0:06:44.990 sort of 9 to 5 style session, you're like, I 0:06:45.010 --> 0:06:47.550 want to go home and go to dinner. When we 0:06:47.589 --> 0:06:50.250 were doing that camp, which I thought was super fun, 0:06:50.670 --> 0:06:53.430 it just went till 10 p.m. or 11 p.m. every night, 0:06:53.450 --> 0:06:55.250 and then it just became a listening session party. It 0:06:55.270 --> 0:06:57.909 was so fun. That studio was like magic. We were 0:06:57.930 --> 0:06:59.290 talking about it today, because there is. 0:07:00.690 --> 0:07:03.240 A song on your album that we wrote together, which 0:07:03.270 --> 0:07:07.520 very kindly you asked, hey, can I put this song 0:07:07.640 --> 0:07:08.200 on my album? 0:07:08.520 --> 0:07:11.360 And obviously, yeah. 0:07:11.420 --> 0:07:13.300 It's been an early fan favorite, too. I think I've 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.020 gotten the most DMs about Happy For You. 0:07:15.480 --> 0:07:16.240 Yeah. That's cool. 0:07:16.400 --> 0:07:16.960 The one. 0:07:17.140 --> 0:07:17.380 Yeah. 0:07:17.540 --> 0:07:18.500 I love that song. I'm so happy. 0:07:18.540 --> 0:07:20.660 And we wrote it during that New York writing camp, 0:07:20.680 --> 0:07:22.980 but that's about the studio special. It's the Lower East Side, 0:07:23.000 --> 0:07:25.460 but there's, we can, we'll show pictures here. Like we 0:07:25.500 --> 0:07:31.610 were saying today, studios usually are like windowless and you 0:07:31.650 --> 0:07:36.650 can kind of depressing. But that studio had windows everywhere. 0:07:36.690 --> 0:07:37.860 So nice. It was gorgeous. 0:07:37.880 --> 0:07:40.060 I felt deeply alive and so inspired. And there were 0:07:40.100 --> 0:07:41.740 so many songs happening every day and it was just. 0:07:42.240 --> 0:07:44.680 The rooftop access, too, which was great to have that 0:07:44.740 --> 0:07:46.780 rooftop that we all got to hang in. But I 0:07:46.820 --> 0:07:49.490 remember the last night we were all there, it was 0:07:49.770 --> 0:07:52.010 kind of magical. Everyone just sat around in the main 0:07:52.290 --> 0:07:55.610 Studio A, I guess, and just listened to everything that 0:07:55.630 --> 0:07:56.990 was created in that week. 0:07:57.210 --> 0:07:58.830 Song, show, and tell. Song, show, and tell. 0:07:58.870 --> 0:08:02.440 And it was, it felt like 1970. You know, like 0:08:02.480 --> 0:08:03.140 it felt different. 0:08:03.600 --> 0:08:05.700 I've been to a few writing camps, and there's a 0:08:05.740 --> 0:08:08.040 version of that that has happened at each one of 0:08:08.080 --> 0:08:08.560 those camps. 0:08:08.600 --> 0:08:08.760 Mm-hmm. 0:08:09.380 --> 0:08:11.290 I will say in the past, though, at previous camps, 0:08:11.310 --> 0:08:13.730 and I'm not going to name names, there was definitely 0:08:13.750 --> 0:08:15.410 a competitive vibe. People would listen to a song and 0:08:15.430 --> 0:08:20.040 it's going like, this song's better. Exactly. I didn't feel that. 0:08:20.120 --> 0:08:21.620 Got him. I didn't feel that with our camp because 0:08:21.660 --> 0:08:24.220 everyone was just so pumped for everyone writing and creating. 0:08:24.300 --> 0:08:26.780 I think we were just inspired to be like, oh, okay, 0:08:27.200 --> 0:08:28.560 let's go do another one. 0:08:28.720 --> 0:08:29.320 Let's go create. 0:08:29.720 --> 0:08:33.210 It's like 40-some songs by the time four days were done. 0:08:33.470 --> 0:08:35.530 It was wild and we play a team sport and 0:08:35.570 --> 0:08:38.490 i think you guys facilitate an environment that really makes 0:08:38.550 --> 0:08:40.820 it feel like a team sport i remember on night 0:08:41.010 --> 0:08:44.880 one uh we had just written princesses and you had 0:08:45.120 --> 0:08:47.099 gone to an event to go grab dinner and you 0:08:47.120 --> 0:08:48.500 were to come back and i went into the other 0:08:48.540 --> 0:08:51.260 room uh where duane and tommy were working and i 0:08:51.280 --> 0:08:54.240 was like trying to be very discerned just like tactful 0:08:54.300 --> 0:08:56.160 but like not trying to step on anyone's toes like 0:08:56.179 --> 0:08:58.620 hey can i hear what you're doing like I don't 0:08:58.640 --> 0:09:01.210 want to Only if welcome I will totally leave And 0:09:01.230 --> 0:09:02.490 they're like No no What do you think What do 0:09:02.510 --> 0:09:05.429 you think And then that energy I feel like Went 0:09:05.929 --> 0:09:07.330 into the rest Of the week for me Because we 0:09:07.350 --> 0:09:09.050 were all Just trying to make Each other's songs better 0:09:09.070 --> 0:09:12.329 And it was so communal And I mean I don't 0:09:12.370 --> 0:09:14.640 like this Feeling like something We're doing by ourselves You 0:09:14.660 --> 0:09:15.360 guys have that It's. 0:09:15.300 --> 0:09:17.400 Really beautiful My favorite song I've ever been a part 0:09:17.420 --> 0:09:22.700 of Writing During that week Unrealistic Oh I love that one. 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.300 It's on the It's on the new album Which is 0:09:25.340 --> 0:09:27.620 coming Yeah. It's my favorite song I've ever been a 0:09:27.620 --> 0:09:28.000 part of writing. 0:09:28.120 --> 0:09:28.280 Wow. 0:09:28.320 --> 0:09:30.460 Hell yeah. My favorite song I've ever written was also 0:09:30.480 --> 0:09:32.760 with JP. Which song? It's not out yet, so I'm 0:09:32.780 --> 0:09:34.000 not going to say the name. 0:09:34.020 --> 0:09:34.160 Okay. 0:09:34.520 --> 0:09:37.099 And it's going to be in a movie, which is 0:09:37.120 --> 0:09:39.319 also something I can't say the name of the movie, 0:09:39.360 --> 0:09:43.900 but we had to re-record the song today, the vocals today. 0:09:43.920 --> 0:09:46.840 So that's what we were doing today in Toronto. That's 0:09:46.880 --> 0:09:49.089 where you went. And then we wrote a song, because... 0:09:50.210 --> 0:09:50.890 We had 30 minutes. 0:09:50.910 --> 0:09:51.730 Because why would we not? 0:09:51.730 --> 0:09:54.020 30 minutes left. Write a song with JP. That makes sense. 0:09:54.080 --> 0:09:55.780 And we did it. We're like, well, that's $ 4. 59. We 0:09:55.800 --> 0:09:57.750 got to go. You guys missed a ton of really 0:09:57.790 --> 0:09:59.309 exciting stuff on our end. 0:09:59.330 --> 0:09:59.870 What happened? Yeah. 0:10:00.410 --> 0:10:02.010 I got a facial. Ooh. 0:10:02.480 --> 0:10:03.120 Oh, you know what? 0:10:03.140 --> 0:10:05.720 I can tell. I walked in and she was like, 0:10:06.040 --> 0:10:08.219 have you ever had an electro something facial? Oh, I 0:10:08.220 --> 0:10:08.439 love it. 0:10:08.440 --> 0:10:08.740 I was like. 0:10:09.000 --> 0:10:09.520 What the hell? 0:10:10.360 --> 0:10:10.760 I don't know. 0:10:11.320 --> 0:10:13.100 She goes, I think maybe you might want to just 0:10:13.120 --> 0:10:16.040 switch to the men's signature facial. And I was like, 0:10:16.100 --> 0:10:19.730 I think you're right. I did it, and it felt fantastic. 0:10:20.650 --> 0:10:23.820 It's got all the stuff moving in my sinuses. How 0:10:23.890 --> 0:10:28.020 are you feeling? I'm still kind of battling. Got it. 0:10:28.100 --> 0:10:29.340 Fighting a good fight. You look good. 0:10:29.980 --> 0:10:30.190 Thank you. 0:10:30.200 --> 0:10:33.880 Not a lot. Your skin is... Is it glowing? It 0:10:34.380 --> 0:10:38.730 is pretty nice right now. I appreciate that. Also, this week, 0:10:39.530 --> 0:10:45.270 Kevin's kind of gone viral. Delete the thread! I love 0:10:45.290 --> 0:10:47.060 the buttons. Well, we'll just quickly catch you up. 0:10:47.120 --> 0:10:51.100 Kevin accidentally sent a picture of him exposing himself on 0:10:51.800 --> 0:10:53.380 our football giants group thread. 0:10:53.800 --> 0:10:55.459 I sent my peen in a picture. 0:10:55.940 --> 0:10:57.420 To the football giants group chat? 0:10:57.460 --> 0:10:58.180 Yeah. 0:10:58.960 --> 0:10:59.880 To your wife, I assume? 0:11:00.040 --> 0:11:01.890 No, no. To the boys. No, no. That was the 0:11:01.929 --> 0:11:03.229 intended recipient. No, no. 0:11:03.510 --> 0:11:05.210 I don't understand. Help. 0:11:05.410 --> 0:11:08.569 I was sending a photo of a TV that had 0:11:08.730 --> 0:11:12.530 a news announcement about the giants. It's in my bathroom 0:11:12.590 --> 0:11:13.770 and the TV's in our bathroom. 0:11:13.820 --> 0:11:15.700 The backsplash. is a mirror. 0:11:15.960 --> 0:11:17.640 Oh my gosh, that's so good. 0:11:17.660 --> 0:11:19.220 Oh my gosh! 0:11:20.000 --> 0:11:24.800 You're so quick. It's amazing. Who responded first? 0:11:24.820 --> 0:11:27.020 It wasn't a lot, but it was a lot. The 0:11:27.040 --> 0:11:29.550 thing that made it funny was his follow-up text once 0:11:29.590 --> 0:11:33.550 he realized. It was, guys, I'm so sorry, was the 0:11:33.570 --> 0:11:38.010 first one. Please delete the photo. And then eventually, cuck 0:11:38.190 --> 0:11:42.840 my life. Auto-corrected. Which made it worse. And then the 0:11:42.860 --> 0:11:45.360 final one was delete the thread, which is the funniest 0:11:45.380 --> 0:11:48.800 shit I've ever heard. Delete the thread! It's like stop 0:11:48.820 --> 0:11:49.199 the count. 0:11:49.540 --> 0:11:54.540 So it's been an interesting few days. 0:11:54.760 --> 0:11:55.140 I see. 0:11:55.860 --> 0:11:57.710 But you've made it something that is working in your favor. 0:11:57.950 --> 0:12:00.170 And in that sense, you did something that could. 0:12:00.130 --> 0:12:02.630 Have been embarrassing. Keeping the giants in the news. I've 0:12:02.650 --> 0:12:05.090 got a question. Keeping the faith. Is that what you're 0:12:05.110 --> 0:12:10.080 calling the dick pic? It's called giants in the news. 0:12:10.250 --> 0:12:12.620 Thank you. I appreciate that. 0:12:13.260 --> 0:12:16.000 You know, JP, I think you're like a mastermind when 0:12:16.020 --> 0:12:19.800 it comes to like listening to someone and you'll be like, 0:12:20.300 --> 0:12:22.660 you said about three hours ago, this thing, and I'm 0:12:22.679 --> 0:12:24.990 going to put it in a song. Now, have you 0:12:25.070 --> 0:12:30.469 ever had kind of even an accidental text or thing 0:12:30.490 --> 0:12:33.209 that might've been a mishap turn into a great song 0:12:33.230 --> 0:12:33.790 lyric for yourself? 0:12:34.580 --> 0:12:40.360 A mishap text. I have my communicative mind so locked down. 0:12:40.880 --> 0:12:43.939 I overthink everything I'm going to say to someone I 0:12:44.000 --> 0:12:47.120 love like eight to 17 times. So it very rarely 0:12:47.160 --> 0:12:50.150 goes awry unless there's like a little bit of alcohol involved. 0:12:51.770 --> 0:12:55.910 And that happens when we're writing songs. I find that 0:12:56.370 --> 0:12:58.450 you all have this habit of just saying like really 0:12:58.470 --> 0:13:01.530 fascinating things. Like sometimes, you know, you're doing it and 0:13:01.570 --> 0:13:04.040 sometimes you don't. So it's just kind of fun to 0:13:04.080 --> 0:13:05.880 be in my position trying to listen real carefully and 0:13:05.900 --> 0:13:07.840 think like that's like the thing you said about the 0:13:07.860 --> 0:13:08.500 bakery earlier. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:10.740 Yeah. It was notable to me. What did you say 0:13:10.760 --> 0:13:13.320 about the bakery? I want to know. I said, what 0:13:13.559 --> 0:13:13.800 did I say? 0:13:13.820 --> 0:13:15.920 You said, I ain't going to sugarcoat it. This ain't 0:13:15.960 --> 0:13:19.020 a bakery. I kind of love that. You said, this 0:13:19.080 --> 0:13:20.660 ain't a bakery. I ain't going to sugarcoat it. And 0:13:20.679 --> 0:13:23.370 I was like, it's excellent. That should be kept. 0:13:23.380 --> 0:13:25.610 So we're putting it in a song. Did you mean 0:13:25.630 --> 0:13:26.650 to say that it was like a line in a 0:13:26.650 --> 0:13:28.210 song or you just said that in conversation? We were 0:13:28.290 --> 0:13:29.030 having a conversation. 0:13:29.190 --> 0:13:30.090 Yeah, it was just telling stories. 0:13:30.110 --> 0:13:31.270 It's kind of hard. It's hard. 0:13:31.309 --> 0:13:31.550 Right? 0:13:31.710 --> 0:13:35.320 It's a hard line. You should write for Drake. Speaking 0:13:35.340 --> 0:13:35.840 of alcohol. 0:13:37.059 --> 0:13:39.140 The chartreuse has led to me saying things I shouldn't 0:13:39.160 --> 0:13:39.439 have said. 0:13:39.620 --> 0:13:42.160 Or maybe should have. Maybe should have but was afraid to. 0:13:42.760 --> 0:13:46.280 We decided to provide some chartreuse for the podcast today. 0:13:46.300 --> 0:13:48.000 Thank you. Because we know you love it. Tell us 0:13:48.780 --> 0:13:51.709 why you love chartreuse so much and the history behind 0:13:51.770 --> 0:13:54.189 this beverage that is kind of a, it's sort of 0:13:54.210 --> 0:13:54.670 an anomaly. 0:13:54.730 --> 0:13:57.460 It's quite mystical. I will tell you the story of chartreuse. 0:13:57.480 --> 0:13:59.200 I have to just like get off of my chest 0:13:59.220 --> 0:14:01.540 that I feel like minorly guilty for any bad feelings 0:14:01.570 --> 0:14:03.650 that any of you are feeling the day after my 0:14:03.690 --> 0:14:05.470 release party. But it was so deeply sweet of you 0:14:05.490 --> 0:14:06.180 to celebrate with me. 0:14:06.190 --> 0:14:07.989 Also a line we spoke about. I said, be tired 0:14:08.010 --> 0:14:09.069 for the right people. And what did you say? 0:14:09.230 --> 0:14:10.290 Gotta be sleepy for the right reasons. 0:14:10.510 --> 0:14:11.890 Amen. I love this. 0:14:12.110 --> 0:14:12.390 Guys. 0:14:12.510 --> 0:14:14.740 Guys. Bars. In 30 minutes. We should wrap up this 0:14:14.770 --> 0:14:15.760 pod and go write some music. 0:14:15.820 --> 0:14:16.080 Yeah. 0:14:16.320 --> 0:14:16.660 We were. 0:14:17.630 --> 0:14:21.500 I mean, admittedly, the first few minutes of us having 0:14:21.520 --> 0:14:23.020 this conversation, I was still trying to find a rhyme 0:14:23.040 --> 0:14:23.460 for answer. 0:14:23.700 --> 0:14:27.840 I could see that. We clock you now. We got 0:14:27.860 --> 0:14:28.050 you now. 0:14:28.080 --> 0:14:28.660 I got it, though. 0:14:28.700 --> 0:14:31.950 We see you when you're in it. Also good. I 0:14:32.020 --> 0:14:34.290 love that part of the process. Before we have our 0:14:34.310 --> 0:14:36.930 sips of structures, for the non-songwriters out there and for 0:14:36.950 --> 0:14:40.370 the songwriters, one of the things that is most, I think, 0:14:40.630 --> 0:14:44.230 fulfilling or gratifying about the songwriting process is when you 0:14:44.310 --> 0:14:47.170 know you can beat something and you're that close and 0:14:47.190 --> 0:14:50.050 you get to solve the math problem. When you finally 0:14:50.100 --> 0:14:53.280 break it open, and it's happened with you and I 0:14:53.340 --> 0:14:55.560 and the four of us a few times, where you're like, 0:14:55.720 --> 0:14:56.820 it's not right, it's not right, and all of a 0:14:56.820 --> 0:14:59.660 sudden it just becomes the right thing. Oh, it was 0:14:59.700 --> 0:15:02.640 always in front of us. Yeah. I mean, the most 0:15:02.700 --> 0:15:04.840 recent one, I will say, happened on Listen When Sad. 0:15:05.480 --> 0:15:06.500 When we got to the end of the chorus, it 0:15:06.540 --> 0:15:09.930 was Listen When Sad and then Call Me. on the 0:15:09.970 --> 0:15:11.350 writing of the CD, that's the note. I was like, 0:15:11.390 --> 0:15:14.330 that's such an interesting, fun way to say that thing. 0:15:14.450 --> 0:15:15.430 I love that song. 0:15:15.450 --> 0:15:16.950 Cheers, guys. Thanks, man. Love you. I don't know if 0:15:16.970 --> 0:15:19.410 I've ever actually had char-juice. Love you, love you. 0:15:19.470 --> 0:15:19.850 You're welcome. 0:15:20.190 --> 0:15:22.470 It's quite good. Very warm. 0:15:23.570 --> 0:15:25.290 Have you never had the char-juice bottles I've been putting 0:15:25.330 --> 0:15:26.190 on the table at the studios? 0:15:26.430 --> 0:15:30.790 I've never had it. Only when tequila ran out. I 0:15:30.830 --> 0:15:34.150 can say this would be great after, like, dinner drink. Like, 0:15:34.190 --> 0:15:35.230 I get it. It's good for your belly. 0:15:35.250 --> 0:15:38.390 I think often used in aperitif vibes. Okay, my disclaimer, 0:15:38.490 --> 0:15:39.800 I don't, I'm not. 0:15:39.820 --> 0:15:41.320 Sponsored by Chartreuse. 0:15:41.680 --> 0:15:44.310 Sponsored by Chartreuse. I'm not sure the monks are sponsoring anyone. 0:15:44.430 --> 0:15:46.790 Nor am I from France, nor am I a monk. 0:15:47.510 --> 0:15:48.910 But there are some French monks. 0:15:48.930 --> 0:15:50.250 The last one, you know, maybe. 0:15:50.890 --> 0:15:53.070