1 00:00:00,800 --> 00:00:03,680 Speaker 1: Here's the snap looking tux, the ball diving for the 2 00:00:03,720 --> 00:00:08,280 Speaker 1: pylon that he's got it, Razzle dazzle, touchdown, the tu 3 00:00:08,360 --> 00:00:12,680 Speaker 1: stands and the Texans go in front. There is no 4 00:00:12,880 --> 00:00:17,599 Speaker 1: off season for your Houston Texans game day. He's every day. 5 00:00:17,920 --> 00:00:19,400 Speaker 1: We had a lot of energy and we brought a 6 00:00:19,440 --> 00:00:24,360 Speaker 1: lot of spark for this organization. Five nights a week. 7 00:00:24,560 --> 00:00:28,600 Speaker 1: They hits keep on coming out. The Texans say they 8 00:00:28,640 --> 00:00:33,959 Speaker 1: have it and they do no It's Texans, all excess. 9 00:00:35,560 --> 00:00:38,960 Speaker 1: Good evening, Texans, Welcome to the program. Mark Vandermaer with 10 00:00:39,040 --> 00:00:42,280 Speaker 1: you every night of the week, Monday through Friday, that 11 00:00:42,479 --> 00:00:45,879 Speaker 1: is six to seven. We talk Texans and the NFL 12 00:00:46,000 --> 00:00:49,200 Speaker 1: and some other sports as well, and sometimes life. John 13 00:00:49,240 --> 00:00:52,120 Speaker 1: Harris will be on in segment two, a special visit 14 00:00:52,159 --> 00:00:55,360 Speaker 1: with Patti Smith. Segment three. She's got just Instant beat 15 00:00:55,440 --> 00:00:58,080 Speaker 1: on her queued up show tonight, which you can catch 16 00:00:58,120 --> 00:01:00,560 Speaker 1: on Facebook from the Harris count of Houston's It's Authorities. 17 00:01:00,560 --> 00:01:02,320 Speaker 1: So that's gonna be fun. But we'll reminisce about some 18 00:01:02,400 --> 00:01:05,119 Speaker 1: other ones she's done and preview the Justin Reid visit 19 00:01:05,400 --> 00:01:07,959 Speaker 1: with you. But let's begin as we do on Thursday 20 00:01:08,040 --> 00:01:11,560 Speaker 1: nights with the general from the Houston Chronicle, John McClain, John, 21 00:01:11,560 --> 00:01:15,720 Speaker 1: how's it going tonight? We have him, I think, and 22 00:01:15,800 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: I don't hear him. So I'm doing great. Mark. How 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:22,000 Speaker 1: are you? I'm doing great, John, And it's wonderful to 24 00:01:22,080 --> 00:01:24,280 Speaker 1: have you visit. John Harris and I did a show 25 00:01:24,319 --> 00:01:28,319 Speaker 1: earlier this week. I'm the missing OTAs. Of course, they 26 00:01:28,360 --> 00:01:33,240 Speaker 1: are doing the zoom meetings, virtual meetings, classroom stuff, but 27 00:01:33,400 --> 00:01:36,319 Speaker 1: we're missing in OTAs. What would you want to see? 28 00:01:36,400 --> 00:01:38,679 Speaker 1: Most of all, if we were able to get that 29 00:01:38,760 --> 00:01:40,840 Speaker 1: out there on the practice field of the Houston Methodist 30 00:01:40,840 --> 00:01:43,000 Speaker 1: Training Center and check out the Texans doing their thing 31 00:01:43,040 --> 00:01:46,160 Speaker 1: this spring, what would you want to see? Well, every 32 00:01:46,200 --> 00:01:49,320 Speaker 1: player and coach will tell you, and that means current 33 00:01:49,360 --> 00:01:52,480 Speaker 1: and former. I've talked to a lot of former Texans 34 00:01:52,480 --> 00:01:54,840 Speaker 1: and Oilers about what it would be like for them 35 00:01:54,880 --> 00:01:57,640 Speaker 1: as a rookie if they were not able to have 36 00:01:57,720 --> 00:02:01,440 Speaker 1: any on field instruction from coaches, if it was just 37 00:02:02,240 --> 00:02:05,520 Speaker 1: virtually on the computers the way they do now, and 38 00:02:05,640 --> 00:02:08,000 Speaker 1: every one of them said it would have impeded their 39 00:02:08,040 --> 00:02:12,280 Speaker 1: progress as rookies, and so they should know if they 40 00:02:12,280 --> 00:02:15,239 Speaker 1: were on the field. I don't care about the veterans. 41 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,560 Speaker 1: We see the veterans. I want to see the new players, 42 00:02:18,680 --> 00:02:22,720 Speaker 1: the free agents who are here, but especially the young guys, 43 00:02:22,800 --> 00:02:27,360 Speaker 1: the draft choices like Ross Black, lawk Jonathan Quinar, John Reid, 44 00:02:27,520 --> 00:02:31,840 Speaker 1: Charlie Heck all those guys specializac culture being a wide 45 00:02:31,880 --> 00:02:35,320 Speaker 1: receiver with great size and speed, but from a very 46 00:02:35,400 --> 00:02:39,360 Speaker 1: small school at Rhode Island, and has always pointed out 47 00:02:39,480 --> 00:02:43,560 Speaker 1: for a guy like that, it's like coming from some 48 00:02:43,639 --> 00:02:46,440 Speaker 1: small town in Texas then driving on the freeways in 49 00:02:46,560 --> 00:02:50,160 Speaker 1: Houston during rush hour. You know that is a gig 50 00:02:50,200 --> 00:02:53,800 Speaker 1: awakening that requires a lot of adjustment. But any of 51 00:02:53,800 --> 00:02:57,359 Speaker 1: the new players, whether it's veterans, there's undrafted free agents 52 00:02:57,400 --> 00:03:00,400 Speaker 1: on this team, they've fired up about going to be 53 00:03:00,440 --> 00:03:03,480 Speaker 1: harder to make the team. Because Bill O'Brien pointed out, 54 00:03:03,480 --> 00:03:06,640 Speaker 1: it's the veteran type year. But it's the new guys 55 00:03:06,680 --> 00:03:09,200 Speaker 1: that I'm always the most eager to see and to 56 00:03:09,280 --> 00:03:13,280 Speaker 1: hear what the coaches say about them. Well the coaches, 57 00:03:13,360 --> 00:03:16,200 Speaker 1: one of them, Tim Kelly, offensive coordinator, visited with the 58 00:03:16,280 --> 00:03:19,919 Speaker 1: media yesterday. What stood out to you the most or 59 00:03:19,960 --> 00:03:21,720 Speaker 1: give me two or three things that stood out to 60 00:03:21,720 --> 00:03:26,880 Speaker 1: you in his gathering with the press, yesterday, the first 61 00:03:26,880 --> 00:03:29,760 Speaker 1: time I've talked to Tim when he wasn't wearing his cap. 62 00:03:30,360 --> 00:03:34,000 Speaker 1: Usually it's it's usually comes off the field. He's always 63 00:03:34,000 --> 00:03:36,320 Speaker 1: wearing his cap that he wears on the field. So 64 00:03:36,360 --> 00:03:38,680 Speaker 1: it's the first time I got to see see his hair. 65 00:03:39,320 --> 00:03:42,320 Speaker 1: And Tim's we talked to him every week last year, 66 00:03:42,760 --> 00:03:45,640 Speaker 1: so we know what he's about. You know, Anthony Weaver, 67 00:03:45,800 --> 00:03:48,480 Speaker 1: we never got to talk to except those few times 68 00:03:48,520 --> 00:03:52,320 Speaker 1: that assistant position coaches were allowed to talk to the media. 69 00:03:52,440 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 1: But you know Tim, as he pointed out, you know, 70 00:03:55,800 --> 00:03:58,640 Speaker 1: Deshaun Watson's got some and proven to do as all 71 00:03:58,680 --> 00:04:03,200 Speaker 1: of them do. But the bottom line is if everybody's healthy, 72 00:04:03,320 --> 00:04:05,960 Speaker 1: that's a big if considering the injury issues with some 73 00:04:06,040 --> 00:04:09,800 Speaker 1: of these guys. They could have a prolific offense with 74 00:04:10,040 --> 00:04:13,000 Speaker 1: some big time speed at wide receiver and Will Fuller, 75 00:04:13,040 --> 00:04:17,520 Speaker 1: Brandon Cooks and Kenny Stills and then Randall Copp coming 76 00:04:17,560 --> 00:04:20,520 Speaker 1: off the highest average per catch of his career in 77 00:04:20,640 --> 00:04:24,120 Speaker 1: his one season where the Cowboys, David Johnson having the 78 00:04:24,200 --> 00:04:27,560 Speaker 1: highest average per catch of any running back going back 79 00:04:27,600 --> 00:04:30,560 Speaker 1: to two thousand with at least sixty five catches, and 80 00:04:30,680 --> 00:04:33,520 Speaker 1: we saw what Duke Johnson could do last year. I 81 00:04:33,640 --> 00:04:36,600 Speaker 1: expected young tight ends to be even better, and they 82 00:04:36,640 --> 00:04:39,080 Speaker 1: could get the same thing out of Darren Fells, which 83 00:04:39,160 --> 00:04:42,719 Speaker 1: is to be to Shaun Watson's go to guy in 84 00:04:42,720 --> 00:04:45,599 Speaker 1: the red zone. There's just a lot of options for 85 00:04:45,800 --> 00:04:50,040 Speaker 1: Kelly and for Watson. John the offensive line, We've talked 86 00:04:50,080 --> 00:04:53,080 Speaker 1: about it before, but I have a feeling that at 87 00:04:53,200 --> 00:04:57,800 Speaker 1: least nationally, they are overlooking this line, that the narrative 88 00:04:57,839 --> 00:04:59,640 Speaker 1: is still out there. Oh, they need improvement on the 89 00:04:59,680 --> 00:05:02,840 Speaker 1: offense line, and not saying that that position group or 90 00:05:02,880 --> 00:05:06,400 Speaker 1: any position group doesn't need to get better, but I 91 00:05:06,480 --> 00:05:09,240 Speaker 1: look at it as an asset on this offense right now, 92 00:05:09,279 --> 00:05:11,679 Speaker 1: and I'm not sure. I'm not so sure it's caught 93 00:05:11,720 --> 00:05:15,679 Speaker 1: on nationally that this is an asset for the Houston Texans. Well, 94 00:05:15,720 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 1: I mean the Texans being overlooked nationally. Most people are 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,679 Speaker 1: picking him third in the division, even though they wanted 96 00:05:21,760 --> 00:05:24,799 Speaker 1: four or five years. I think that's probably the extra 97 00:05:24,839 --> 00:05:26,680 Speaker 1: and sent it to them. I wrote a column with 98 00:05:26,760 --> 00:05:30,440 Speaker 1: Nick Martin this week saying, you know, this is the 99 00:05:30,520 --> 00:05:33,960 Speaker 1: first time that he's since he's been here, that they've 100 00:05:33,960 --> 00:05:37,080 Speaker 1: had the five starters returning, And the truth is, it's 101 00:05:37,080 --> 00:05:39,080 Speaker 1: the first time since Bill O'Brien has been back. I 102 00:05:39,120 --> 00:05:42,159 Speaker 1: went back and looked up all the offensive line early 103 00:05:42,200 --> 00:05:45,599 Speaker 1: in Bill's career, when they had veterans, they would have 104 00:05:45,760 --> 00:05:48,400 Speaker 1: like when Ben Jones came in and played guard before 105 00:05:48,880 --> 00:05:52,719 Speaker 1: he was a Sinner, so they would make one change. 106 00:05:53,160 --> 00:05:55,719 Speaker 1: But now they've got all five back, assuming they don't 107 00:05:55,760 --> 00:06:00,760 Speaker 1: sign Larry Warford to replace Zach Fulton, which could could happened. 108 00:06:00,800 --> 00:06:04,000 Speaker 1: But that kind of continuity is tremendous. You think about 109 00:06:04,040 --> 00:06:07,520 Speaker 1: this time last year. They didn't know Tyus Howard's gonna 110 00:06:07,520 --> 00:06:09,839 Speaker 1: play right tackle, left tackle, or guard. They didn't know 111 00:06:09,880 --> 00:06:13,400 Speaker 1: if Max Sharpley's gonna play right tackle, guard, center. Both 112 00:06:13,440 --> 00:06:16,480 Speaker 1: those guys got tried at all those positions. And then 113 00:06:16,560 --> 00:06:20,159 Speaker 1: Laramy Tunsil came in the week before the season again, 114 00:06:20,240 --> 00:06:23,440 Speaker 1: and as Nick Martin said, it's a testament to his 115 00:06:23,520 --> 00:06:26,120 Speaker 1: ability but also his intelligence to be thrown in the 116 00:06:26,240 --> 00:06:29,120 Speaker 1: fire like that and play as well as he did. 117 00:06:29,800 --> 00:06:32,560 Speaker 1: And so I think their offensive line is going to 118 00:06:32,640 --> 00:06:36,480 Speaker 1: be vastly improved, if for no other reason than the 119 00:06:36,520 --> 00:06:39,520 Speaker 1: fact they've been together for a season and they got 120 00:06:39,560 --> 00:06:41,680 Speaker 1: some talent up there. You know, we're talking about a 121 00:06:42,279 --> 00:06:44,720 Speaker 1: left tackle. It's in the first round left guard, a 122 00:06:44,880 --> 00:06:48,520 Speaker 1: second round center, second round, right tackle, first round, and 123 00:06:48,960 --> 00:06:51,359 Speaker 1: so they do have talent. I think they're gonna be better. 124 00:06:51,680 --> 00:06:55,200 Speaker 1: So many people based the dolfinsive line performance on the 125 00:06:55,320 --> 00:06:59,039 Speaker 1: sacks without really breaking it down to see how many 126 00:06:59,240 --> 00:07:03,920 Speaker 1: or the line tight ends, running backs or watts. Well, 127 00:07:04,000 --> 00:07:07,760 Speaker 1: the tight end position group definitely came into the conversation yesterday, John, 128 00:07:07,920 --> 00:07:11,040 Speaker 1: and you look at what Fells did last year, akens 129 00:07:11,560 --> 00:07:13,160 Speaker 1: I think it's going to be interesting to see what 130 00:07:13,280 --> 00:07:15,520 Speaker 1: Kaholly Wearing could possibly do. How do you think he 131 00:07:15,520 --> 00:07:18,160 Speaker 1: gets worked in and with only a couple of weeks 132 00:07:18,160 --> 00:07:20,320 Speaker 1: to get ready for that first preseason game and all 133 00:07:20,360 --> 00:07:22,080 Speaker 1: the work they're gonna have to do a training camp, 134 00:07:22,160 --> 00:07:24,640 Speaker 1: assuming as Zerotas and I think that's a pretty safe 135 00:07:24,640 --> 00:07:26,720 Speaker 1: assumption at this point. How do you think they try 136 00:07:26,760 --> 00:07:28,680 Speaker 1: to work Wearing in just to see what he could 137 00:07:28,680 --> 00:07:31,880 Speaker 1: possibly do? But I don't think there's any way they're 138 00:07:31,880 --> 00:07:34,480 Speaker 1: gonna play four preseason games. I'll be shocked that they 139 00:07:34,520 --> 00:07:37,800 Speaker 1: played more than two. And so the guys who are 140 00:07:37,960 --> 00:07:42,080 Speaker 1: untried nine tested are going to get less opportunities because 141 00:07:42,120 --> 00:07:44,120 Speaker 1: the veterans are going to have to use that if 142 00:07:44,160 --> 00:07:46,360 Speaker 1: they ordinarily would not, but they'll have to use that 143 00:07:46,840 --> 00:07:49,560 Speaker 1: to get them in football. Say pray for regular season. 144 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:54,360 Speaker 1: But Wearing they're fired up about, you know, considering his 145 00:07:54,480 --> 00:07:58,360 Speaker 1: football background. He doesn't have an extensive football background like 146 00:07:58,760 --> 00:08:01,240 Speaker 1: a lot of the players have been playing since Pop Corner. 147 00:08:01,640 --> 00:08:06,480 Speaker 1: Wearing was a multi sport athlete in California and they 148 00:08:06,480 --> 00:08:08,320 Speaker 1: didn't think he was going to be available in the 149 00:08:08,360 --> 00:08:11,040 Speaker 1: third round last year. They didn't need a tight end, 150 00:08:11,040 --> 00:08:13,520 Speaker 1: but they took him because they had a second round 151 00:08:13,560 --> 00:08:16,120 Speaker 1: grade on him, and there he was in the third round. 152 00:08:16,160 --> 00:08:18,880 Speaker 1: He got to watch and learn as a rookie, and 153 00:08:18,960 --> 00:08:22,480 Speaker 1: I think for a player at any position who does 154 00:08:22,560 --> 00:08:26,080 Speaker 1: not have an extended football background, being able to watch 155 00:08:26,080 --> 00:08:28,360 Speaker 1: and learn as a rookie is good. You know. We 156 00:08:28,480 --> 00:08:31,840 Speaker 1: saw him flashing Green Bay at the turn practice make 157 00:08:31,920 --> 00:08:34,840 Speaker 1: some big time plays and it seemed to make mistakes, 158 00:08:34,840 --> 00:08:38,120 Speaker 1: but all young guys make mistakes. But he's got ability, 159 00:08:38,200 --> 00:08:41,400 Speaker 1: he's got size, He looks the pot Now. He should 160 00:08:41,480 --> 00:08:45,120 Speaker 1: be so much more comfortable mentally because he got all 161 00:08:45,120 --> 00:08:48,320 Speaker 1: that time to watch and learn. And they got four 162 00:08:48,440 --> 00:08:50,880 Speaker 1: tight ends and one of those guys, if they're all healthy, 163 00:08:51,559 --> 00:08:53,960 Speaker 1: is going to get left out and probably need want 164 00:08:53,960 --> 00:08:56,040 Speaker 1: of them to get hurt again. But I look for 165 00:08:56,120 --> 00:08:58,360 Speaker 1: big things from wearing, but it's gonna be hard to 166 00:08:58,360 --> 00:09:01,199 Speaker 1: get playing time with Fells coming off the kind of 167 00:09:01,280 --> 00:09:06,320 Speaker 1: season he had and Jordan Nakins showing the kind of improvement. Emay, John, 168 00:09:06,360 --> 00:09:08,840 Speaker 1: what is your latest feeling now you mentioned this is 169 00:09:08,880 --> 00:09:13,120 Speaker 1: your opinion right about the lack or reduction in preseason 170 00:09:13,240 --> 00:09:15,880 Speaker 1: games in the schedule, right, this is not based on 171 00:09:16,240 --> 00:09:18,719 Speaker 1: you've heard something I'm gathering. Well, no, of course not. 172 00:09:18,920 --> 00:09:22,640 Speaker 1: Nobody's heard anything because they're clueless. Everybody's the league office. 173 00:09:22,679 --> 00:09:25,439 Speaker 1: They don't have a clue what's going on with the coronavirus. 174 00:09:25,480 --> 00:09:28,720 Speaker 1: They have different plans and they hope all this stuff, 175 00:09:28,720 --> 00:09:31,280 Speaker 1: but they haven't even come out of playing like baseball 176 00:09:31,280 --> 00:09:34,160 Speaker 1: and basketball ask because they don't have to. But I 177 00:09:34,200 --> 00:09:37,640 Speaker 1: don't and I've been shot. Mark. You'll be there, of 178 00:09:37,679 --> 00:09:40,920 Speaker 1: course fromwhere calling a game, but I think the rest 179 00:09:40,960 --> 00:09:42,640 Speaker 1: of us in the media, we won't be going to 180 00:09:42,760 --> 00:09:46,240 Speaker 1: games anytime soon, and certainly not the off season program 181 00:09:46,240 --> 00:09:50,600 Speaker 1: will continue to do a lot of stuff virtually on zoom. 182 00:09:50,720 --> 00:09:52,920 Speaker 1: What do you think of Baseball's plan? What you've heard 183 00:09:52,960 --> 00:09:56,560 Speaker 1: about that it was the sixty seven pages I looked 184 00:09:56,559 --> 00:09:59,000 Speaker 1: at all of it. Now I've seen others coming back 185 00:09:59,080 --> 00:10:01,440 Speaker 1: saying it was the first draft and one of the 186 00:10:01,480 --> 00:10:04,440 Speaker 1: first things the players complaining about because it's like a 187 00:10:04,440 --> 00:10:07,760 Speaker 1: little league. They expect to go on dirty after they 188 00:10:07,800 --> 00:10:11,120 Speaker 1: get their snow cones, and there's probably going to be 189 00:10:11,160 --> 00:10:13,640 Speaker 1: And this is think about how hard this be about football, 190 00:10:14,320 --> 00:10:17,840 Speaker 1: saying the Texans, they're talking about letting three baseball players 191 00:10:17,840 --> 00:10:20,640 Speaker 1: at a time, shower. Can you imagine after a game 192 00:10:20,679 --> 00:10:23,240 Speaker 1: if you let three football players at a time, they'd 193 00:10:23,280 --> 00:10:25,280 Speaker 1: be there half to night. I would want to go 194 00:10:25,320 --> 00:10:28,000 Speaker 1: on dirty, go out, get your car and go home. 195 00:10:28,000 --> 00:10:30,280 Speaker 1: But that was one of the first things that they 196 00:10:30,360 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 1: talked about. And if you make football players and you 197 00:10:33,440 --> 00:10:36,280 Speaker 1: know this, think about it. If all football players were 198 00:10:36,320 --> 00:10:39,199 Speaker 1: six feet apart, your bench would extend to the end zones. 199 00:10:39,720 --> 00:10:42,640 Speaker 1: How would a position coach get to get his players 200 00:10:42,679 --> 00:10:46,800 Speaker 1: together when there's six feet apart coming off the field 201 00:10:47,000 --> 00:10:50,200 Speaker 1: and when the offense were places a defense. So there's 202 00:10:50,200 --> 00:10:53,360 Speaker 1: just so many things they have to worry about. And 203 00:10:54,080 --> 00:10:56,600 Speaker 1: if I'm the NFL, I pushed the season back if 204 00:10:56,600 --> 00:10:59,160 Speaker 1: I thought it would help me get fans in the stands. 205 00:10:59,160 --> 00:11:03,240 Speaker 1: Because you see that story yesterday guessing that they'd lose 206 00:11:03,320 --> 00:11:06,600 Speaker 1: five point five billion if no fans were allowed in 207 00:11:06,640 --> 00:11:10,680 Speaker 1: the stands. Yeah, that's a big chunk of change. That 208 00:11:10,760 --> 00:11:13,400 Speaker 1: was an estimate, But it's got to be somewhere in 209 00:11:13,400 --> 00:11:16,240 Speaker 1: that general zip code. You would think. I saw the 210 00:11:16,240 --> 00:11:21,280 Speaker 1: Bundesliga last weekend, which I never watched before, the German 211 00:11:21,440 --> 00:11:24,160 Speaker 1: Soccer League, and yes, the bench they were sitting six 212 00:11:24,160 --> 00:11:26,520 Speaker 1: feet apart. Yet they're on the field and they're not 213 00:11:26,559 --> 00:11:28,920 Speaker 1: six feet apart in many cases. So I don't know 214 00:11:29,160 --> 00:11:31,560 Speaker 1: how you gauge all this and what's important? Yeah, how 215 00:11:31,559 --> 00:11:34,600 Speaker 1: about how about those piles when they're bleeding on each 216 00:11:34,600 --> 00:11:37,640 Speaker 1: other and spitting and blowing snot and all those things. 217 00:11:37,640 --> 00:11:40,400 Speaker 1: You get slobber knockers in a pile, and then when 218 00:11:40,440 --> 00:11:43,360 Speaker 1: they're in a huddle that did you see the story 219 00:11:43,400 --> 00:11:47,600 Speaker 1: with the writer of the German league saying that under 220 00:11:47,640 --> 00:11:51,720 Speaker 1: the current protocols that exist there, ten writers are allowed 221 00:11:51,720 --> 00:11:55,600 Speaker 1: to cover match, usually at sixty and of course there's 222 00:11:55,640 --> 00:11:58,760 Speaker 1: a huge argument about who gets to go. Whether it's 223 00:11:58,920 --> 00:12:01,800 Speaker 1: drawing here. I would hope it would be seniority and 224 00:12:02,000 --> 00:12:04,760 Speaker 1: I would have no problem, But there's a lot of 225 00:12:04,800 --> 00:12:07,040 Speaker 1: things they got to figure out, you know, they could 226 00:12:07,120 --> 00:12:10,240 Speaker 1: let the media go into the big auditorium add to 227 00:12:10,280 --> 00:12:13,280 Speaker 1: the games the way we do now and interview Bill 228 00:12:13,320 --> 00:12:16,920 Speaker 1: O'Brien and Watt Watson and others. But on the other hand, 229 00:12:16,960 --> 00:12:19,760 Speaker 1: they're not going to want us in there, and so 230 00:12:19,800 --> 00:12:23,080 Speaker 1: I think that the media will be doing a lot 231 00:12:23,120 --> 00:12:25,559 Speaker 1: of zooms. The key is do we even get in 232 00:12:25,559 --> 00:12:29,559 Speaker 1: the press box, because if you spread everybody out six feet, 233 00:12:29,679 --> 00:12:31,880 Speaker 1: there's not going to be a lot of people won't 234 00:12:31,880 --> 00:12:34,800 Speaker 1: be let into the press box that are normally in 235 00:12:34,920 --> 00:12:37,480 Speaker 1: and most of them, a lot of them would complain 236 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:41,319 Speaker 1: about that and say it was unfair. Yeah, I think 237 00:12:41,320 --> 00:12:44,119 Speaker 1: there's a lot to consider here. Look, as a radio announcer, 238 00:12:44,679 --> 00:12:48,200 Speaker 1: I know our radio booth social distancing. Are we six 239 00:12:48,200 --> 00:12:51,439 Speaker 1: feet apart? I've been It's a booth that are speed 240 00:12:54,800 --> 00:12:58,120 Speaker 1: and unless you and Andrea are buy yourself, there's no 241 00:12:58,200 --> 00:13:00,920 Speaker 1: way you can do it. But think about those really 242 00:13:01,000 --> 00:13:04,080 Speaker 1: small ones where you got it, where you cramped right 243 00:13:04,120 --> 00:13:06,880 Speaker 1: on top each other. You may have to go. I'm 244 00:13:06,960 --> 00:13:10,200 Speaker 1: recommending you guys go in the stands the way you 245 00:13:10,280 --> 00:13:14,800 Speaker 1: were in Wembley Stadium. Yeah, in London where fans challenge 246 00:13:14,840 --> 00:13:18,120 Speaker 1: you to set down. Well, I'm back to my roots. 247 00:13:18,200 --> 00:13:20,760 Speaker 1: I started in high school of football, calling high school 248 00:13:20,800 --> 00:13:24,240 Speaker 1: games from the stands with a tape recorder. Maybe it'll 249 00:13:24,320 --> 00:13:27,199 Speaker 1: be something like that, Hey, without anybody in front of 250 00:13:27,240 --> 00:13:29,920 Speaker 1: me and Wembley. There were actually people walking in front 251 00:13:30,000 --> 00:13:34,079 Speaker 1: of me during the broadcast. Not ideal, but hey, I'm 252 00:13:34,080 --> 00:13:36,720 Speaker 1: not complaining about you did a great job. You were 253 00:13:36,760 --> 00:13:39,880 Speaker 1: able to adjust and they wanted a route, so that 254 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:43,160 Speaker 1: was good. There wasn't a last second play that, you know, 255 00:13:43,360 --> 00:13:46,080 Speaker 1: one of those toe tappers situations, so that you had 256 00:13:46,120 --> 00:13:49,000 Speaker 1: to get right at the very end. General John McLean 257 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:51,240 Speaker 1: joining us from the Houston Chronicle. But the NBA in 258 00:13:51,280 --> 00:13:55,160 Speaker 1: a similar situation here, John, that is a contact sport. 259 00:13:55,520 --> 00:13:58,360 Speaker 1: There's no social distancing there. There was in terms of 260 00:13:58,559 --> 00:14:01,760 Speaker 1: early eighties and late of these defense. But I'm joking here. 261 00:14:01,800 --> 00:14:06,720 Speaker 1: Of course they can play All Star game defense. NBA 262 00:14:06,800 --> 00:14:09,160 Speaker 1: seems to me, because the teams are so small and 263 00:14:09,200 --> 00:14:12,960 Speaker 1: there's so few people who worked at games with the 264 00:14:13,040 --> 00:14:16,200 Speaker 1: teams compared to football at baseball, that it would be 265 00:14:16,240 --> 00:14:19,880 Speaker 1: the easiest to bring back, and because it wouldn't have 266 00:14:19,920 --> 00:14:23,040 Speaker 1: the same requirements. You know, you could have players showering 267 00:14:23,440 --> 00:14:26,200 Speaker 1: one at a time if you wanted to. But I 268 00:14:26,320 --> 00:14:29,200 Speaker 1: just I look for Adam Silver to lead the way 269 00:14:29,240 --> 00:14:32,160 Speaker 1: with the NBA, to be the first back. All right, 270 00:14:32,240 --> 00:14:35,680 Speaker 1: So Frank Gore says the AFC East is wide open 271 00:14:35,800 --> 00:14:40,840 Speaker 1: because Brady's gone? Are the Bill's gonna win the AFC East? 272 00:14:40,960 --> 00:14:45,560 Speaker 1: Isn't really that wide open? Is Gore correct? I believe 273 00:14:45,600 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 1: it is. The main reason is it isn't that they 274 00:14:47,800 --> 00:14:50,600 Speaker 1: just lost Brady. They lost a lot of players. They 275 00:14:50,600 --> 00:14:54,320 Speaker 1: had serious cap issues. They are lost players from the 276 00:14:54,400 --> 00:14:58,640 Speaker 1: league's best defense, they lost offensive lineman. They've had a 277 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:01,160 Speaker 1: lot of players that are gone. And one of the 278 00:15:01,240 --> 00:15:04,880 Speaker 1: things that I that kind of irritates me Mark. Everybody 279 00:15:04,920 --> 00:15:07,600 Speaker 1: talks about, well, they didn't have Brady that year. They 280 00:15:07,640 --> 00:15:10,320 Speaker 1: went leven in five with Matt Castle. But if you 281 00:15:10,360 --> 00:15:12,760 Speaker 1: look at that team, they had a whole lot more 282 00:15:12,800 --> 00:15:15,680 Speaker 1: talent on that team than they do on this one. 283 00:15:16,000 --> 00:15:18,000 Speaker 1: I look for them to be in the nine seven 284 00:15:18,080 --> 00:15:21,320 Speaker 1: eight eight, rain seven and nine in Buffalo should win 285 00:15:21,400 --> 00:15:24,880 Speaker 1: that division. There's a lot of pressure on McDermott and 286 00:15:24,920 --> 00:15:28,440 Speaker 1: the Bills to take that next step and win that division. 287 00:15:28,520 --> 00:15:32,320 Speaker 1: With the Jets coming on with Sam Darnold, whose career 288 00:15:32,320 --> 00:15:36,280 Speaker 1: could really take off, and then Miami cleaning up the rear. 289 00:15:37,360 --> 00:15:40,000 Speaker 1: Your friend Sherine Williams wrote a story about the Chiefs 290 00:15:40,000 --> 00:15:43,840 Speaker 1: beginning contract negotiations with Patrick Mahomes. I would imagine they've 291 00:15:43,840 --> 00:15:46,520 Speaker 1: been going on already, but something they'll be getting into 292 00:15:46,600 --> 00:15:50,120 Speaker 1: a lot heavier as the summer progresses here, John, your 293 00:15:50,160 --> 00:15:53,480 Speaker 1: thoughts on if that deal gets done, Obviously that probably 294 00:15:53,520 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: has a major impact on Deshaun Watson here in Houston. Yeah, 295 00:15:57,560 --> 00:16:01,240 Speaker 1: I don't think Deshan will get done until Prescott has done. 296 00:16:01,760 --> 00:16:05,680 Speaker 1: And they've not had any kind of negotiations lately. You 297 00:16:05,760 --> 00:16:08,880 Speaker 1: see stuff in the national media, but they haven't. They've 298 00:16:08,880 --> 00:16:13,800 Speaker 1: had preliminary negotiations, very very preliminary, because there's in no rush. 299 00:16:14,160 --> 00:16:16,320 Speaker 1: The thing that I would be careful of is if 300 00:16:16,360 --> 00:16:19,200 Speaker 1: I thought I could get the contract next year. If 301 00:16:19,200 --> 00:16:22,120 Speaker 1: the owners take a financial bath, the players are not 302 00:16:22,160 --> 00:16:24,360 Speaker 1: going to be getting the same contracts next year that 303 00:16:24,400 --> 00:16:27,240 Speaker 1: they're hoping to get. So I'm thinking, seriously, if I'm 304 00:16:27,320 --> 00:16:30,560 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott and they offer me thirty five million a year, 305 00:16:30,600 --> 00:16:33,000 Speaker 1: I think I'm going to be happy and I'm going 306 00:16:33,040 --> 00:16:35,440 Speaker 1: to be down. They're signing that deal the next day 307 00:16:35,640 --> 00:16:37,920 Speaker 1: and not holding out for another two or three million 308 00:16:37,960 --> 00:16:40,640 Speaker 1: a year and there's something the agents for Mahomes and 309 00:16:40,680 --> 00:16:44,000 Speaker 1: Watson have to think about. Two. If you don't do 310 00:16:44,040 --> 00:16:47,280 Speaker 1: it now, what could the situation be like next year? 311 00:16:47,320 --> 00:16:49,400 Speaker 1: And truthfully, ah the owner is going to pay that 312 00:16:49,480 --> 00:16:52,520 Speaker 1: kind of money now, not knowing what their income is 313 00:16:52,560 --> 00:16:56,920 Speaker 1: going to be this season, thirty nine million people are unemployed. 314 00:16:57,040 --> 00:16:59,680 Speaker 1: Bird in the hand might not be such a bad thing, John, 315 00:16:59,680 --> 00:17:02,400 Speaker 1: what do you going? Out of the Houston Chronicle. So 316 00:17:02,440 --> 00:17:05,200 Speaker 1: I wrote a column for Sunday about this time last 317 00:17:05,280 --> 00:17:10,400 Speaker 1: year the AFC South starting quarterbacks compared to this year 318 00:17:10,440 --> 00:17:15,000 Speaker 1: and the only one back is Deshaun Watson, and I 319 00:17:15,080 --> 00:17:17,520 Speaker 1: wrote about that for Sunday. I have column out there 320 00:17:17,960 --> 00:17:22,240 Speaker 1: today about Tim Kelly got podcast on Texas Sports Nation. 321 00:17:22,280 --> 00:17:24,760 Speaker 1: I'll have a mail bag in the morning. Mark, thank 322 00:17:24,800 --> 00:17:28,040 Speaker 1: you very much, as always, stay safe, Thank you General. 323 00:17:28,080 --> 00:17:31,680 Speaker 1: Coming up, John Harris, Hey, Tom Brady and ESPN they're 324 00:17:31,720 --> 00:17:35,720 Speaker 1: gonna do a documentary series on Brady. Is that going 325 00:17:35,760 --> 00:17:38,439 Speaker 1: to be better? Worse? Different? Of course, it's gonna be 326 00:17:38,440 --> 00:17:42,119 Speaker 1: different than the last dance. But we'll discuss that among 327 00:17:42,200 --> 00:17:44,840 Speaker 1: many other football related topics that come up here on 328 00:17:44,880 --> 00:17:48,359 Speaker 1: Texans Radio and Patti Smith joining us in the final segment, 329 00:17:48,440 --> 00:17:51,000 Speaker 1: She's got Justin Reid on our queued up show tonight. 330 00:17:51,160 --> 00:17:56,439 Speaker 1: It's Texans Radio for the most in depth coverage of 331 00:17:56,480 --> 00:18:06,560 Speaker 1: your favorite team and players. Check out Houston Texans. If 332 00:18:06,560 --> 00:18:10,400 Speaker 1: you love podcast and you love the Texans, you'll love 333 00:18:10,480 --> 00:18:16,280 Speaker 1: our Texans podcast, now available on iTunes and Houston Texans 334 00:18:16,320 --> 00:18:22,800 Speaker 1: dot com. Mark Vandermer with you Thursday Night with John Harris. Now, 335 00:18:22,880 --> 00:18:25,159 Speaker 1: Thursdays are interesting because we have the General on and 336 00:18:25,280 --> 00:18:28,160 Speaker 1: Johnny comes on, and we are gonna have Patti Smith 337 00:18:28,200 --> 00:18:29,600 Speaker 1: on a little bit later on. Johnny, how are you 338 00:18:29,600 --> 00:18:32,040 Speaker 1: doing tonight? I don't know when the last time I 339 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:34,600 Speaker 1: did one segment with you. I know, I know, I'm sorry. 340 00:18:34,760 --> 00:18:36,960 Speaker 1: I'm sorry, buddy. It's just yeah, it just worked out 341 00:18:37,000 --> 00:18:40,520 Speaker 1: that way. No, it's good. It's good. It's good. I 342 00:18:40,560 --> 00:18:43,360 Speaker 1: mean it probably saves the pipes a little bit. So, yeah, 343 00:18:43,359 --> 00:18:45,560 Speaker 1: I see the pipes. I was looking out for your 344 00:18:45,560 --> 00:18:48,600 Speaker 1: pipes that I was doing. Yeah, you weren't kicking me 345 00:18:48,600 --> 00:18:51,720 Speaker 1: in the curb, that's all. Well, I never never, and 346 00:18:52,119 --> 00:18:54,000 Speaker 1: you and I've been doing every one of these shows 347 00:18:54,080 --> 00:18:57,520 Speaker 1: during the COVID era, which I hope is coming to 348 00:18:57,600 --> 00:19:00,960 Speaker 1: a close soon. Hope is the key word here. I 349 00:19:00,960 --> 00:19:03,920 Speaker 1: don't know about actually doing it. So ESPN has ordered 350 00:19:03,920 --> 00:19:09,200 Speaker 1: to Tom Brady docuseries produced by Tom Brady. So how's 351 00:19:09,200 --> 00:19:11,320 Speaker 1: that going to compare with what we've been watching on 352 00:19:11,400 --> 00:19:16,160 Speaker 1: Sunday nights the last few weeks. Okay, here's I love 353 00:19:16,200 --> 00:19:18,479 Speaker 1: the Last Dance. Don't get me wrong. I felt like 354 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:25,439 Speaker 1: it was a tremendously entertaining look at that team at 355 00:19:25,480 --> 00:19:30,439 Speaker 1: Michael at some of his teammates told some stories. I like, 356 00:19:30,720 --> 00:19:35,600 Speaker 1: if you're looking for a hardcore documentary that dives into 357 00:19:36,760 --> 00:19:39,639 Speaker 1: that dives into the you know, the gambling of Jordan, 358 00:19:39,800 --> 00:19:43,440 Speaker 1: the issues that you know Jordan had with some teammates, 359 00:19:43,480 --> 00:19:45,639 Speaker 1: and kept going with that and pushed the envelope a 360 00:19:45,640 --> 00:19:48,119 Speaker 1: little bit more on things. You're not gonna get it 361 00:19:48,200 --> 00:19:50,920 Speaker 1: because the only way you were gonna get this documentary 362 00:19:51,520 --> 00:19:55,800 Speaker 1: done and it made sense was to get Jordan's involvement, 363 00:19:55,920 --> 00:19:59,680 Speaker 1: and to get Jordan's involvement in it, you obviously have 364 00:19:59,840 --> 00:20:04,800 Speaker 1: to sort of and you know, uh, you have to 365 00:20:04,800 --> 00:20:08,680 Speaker 1: give them the delete button, right exactly, Yeah, you absolutely 366 00:20:08,680 --> 00:20:10,440 Speaker 1: have to do that. And I think with Tom it's 367 00:20:10,560 --> 00:20:13,600 Speaker 1: kind of the same thing. Now. I think we've sort 368 00:20:13,600 --> 00:20:16,560 Speaker 1: of seen a little bit of this. If you watch 369 00:20:16,640 --> 00:20:19,320 Speaker 1: the Facebook thing they did Tom Versus Time. I feel 370 00:20:19,359 --> 00:20:24,240 Speaker 1: like they sort of already did this, but I mean 371 00:20:24,280 --> 00:20:27,280 Speaker 1: I'm always willing to see, Okay, what different angle are 372 00:20:27,320 --> 00:20:30,560 Speaker 1: you going to take um with this or what is 373 00:20:30,720 --> 00:20:33,200 Speaker 1: what is the angle that is that is taken And 374 00:20:33,520 --> 00:20:36,359 Speaker 1: in some sense, I feel like Tom Versus Time was 375 00:20:37,520 --> 00:20:41,720 Speaker 1: Tom's sort of announcement that you know what, it's not 376 00:20:41,880 --> 00:20:43,760 Speaker 1: all it's cracked up to be up here in New 377 00:20:43,760 --> 00:20:46,560 Speaker 1: England and the way things are done um, and so 378 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,880 Speaker 1: it was almost a passive aggressive way of saying, yeah, yeah, 379 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:52,360 Speaker 1: I don't know that I really love it up here 380 00:20:52,400 --> 00:20:55,199 Speaker 1: and maybe I'm ready for something new. So I don't know. 381 00:20:55,240 --> 00:20:57,480 Speaker 1: I mean, if they dive into some of the things 382 00:20:57,560 --> 00:21:01,280 Speaker 1: and that uh that they've done in previous documentaries, they've 383 00:21:01,280 --> 00:21:04,240 Speaker 1: already the NFL films did one called the Brady Six 384 00:21:04,680 --> 00:21:08,359 Speaker 1: he did Tom Versus Time, I don't I mean, I'm 385 00:21:08,400 --> 00:21:10,080 Speaker 1: sure there are gonna be some things that we're gonna 386 00:21:10,119 --> 00:21:12,760 Speaker 1: find out, and I think the biggest thing we'd like 387 00:21:12,840 --> 00:21:15,480 Speaker 1: to find out is just the relationship with Belichick and 388 00:21:15,960 --> 00:21:19,040 Speaker 1: how that went down for so many years. And you 389 00:21:19,080 --> 00:21:20,960 Speaker 1: know what, I think in the end what we'd find 390 00:21:21,080 --> 00:21:26,760 Speaker 1: is there just probably wasn't a ton there that really 391 00:21:27,160 --> 00:21:30,080 Speaker 1: would fit into a nine part documentary, as opposed to 392 00:21:30,160 --> 00:21:34,040 Speaker 1: with Jordan, you had Jordan v. Jerry Krause, you had 393 00:21:34,080 --> 00:21:36,800 Speaker 1: the Jordan Isaiah Thomas thing, you had a lot of 394 00:21:36,920 --> 00:21:41,600 Speaker 1: juicy storylines that Jordan never talked about. They never done. 395 00:21:41,640 --> 00:21:44,960 Speaker 1: They do documentaries on Jordan. But Tom's already done three, 396 00:21:45,000 --> 00:21:48,760 Speaker 1: so I'm curious to see what sort of angle they're 397 00:21:48,800 --> 00:21:51,560 Speaker 1: able to take or want to take. Well, he wants 398 00:21:51,560 --> 00:21:54,960 Speaker 1: it to be great because it's with his production company 399 00:21:55,000 --> 00:21:58,600 Speaker 1: One nine at Productions, so we'll see what he brings 400 00:21:58,640 --> 00:22:01,720 Speaker 1: to it. Look, I'd rather have him wait till he's 401 00:22:01,760 --> 00:22:04,919 Speaker 1: completely done, because maybe it'll be a lot more honest 402 00:22:04,920 --> 00:22:07,119 Speaker 1: about what went on there, not that it'll be dishonest, 403 00:22:07,119 --> 00:22:11,440 Speaker 1: but more revealing what went on with Foxborough. It would 404 00:22:11,480 --> 00:22:14,840 Speaker 1: be really interesting to see if he didn't agree with 405 00:22:14,880 --> 00:22:18,600 Speaker 1: a bunch of the Belichick infused culture, or and he 406 00:22:18,680 --> 00:22:20,399 Speaker 1: was just going along with it and they were winning 407 00:22:20,400 --> 00:22:23,000 Speaker 1: and it all worked, or if he was totally on board, 408 00:22:23,119 --> 00:22:25,280 Speaker 1: or how much of it he had to do with. 409 00:22:25,440 --> 00:22:28,119 Speaker 1: I always felt like in New England, no matter what 410 00:22:28,160 --> 00:22:31,960 Speaker 1: was happening, he was the culture. I mean, yes, Belichick's 411 00:22:32,000 --> 00:22:35,040 Speaker 1: certainly I get it. But Brady, the fact that he's there, 412 00:22:35,240 --> 00:22:37,280 Speaker 1: it's kind of like the Jordan thing, maybe in a 413 00:22:37,359 --> 00:22:39,119 Speaker 1: different way. I don't know if Brady's the same way 414 00:22:39,200 --> 00:22:43,240 Speaker 1: toward his teammates, but if I'm a player, and even 415 00:22:43,280 --> 00:22:47,320 Speaker 1: happens in pickup basketball, certain guys when you're on their team, 416 00:22:47,400 --> 00:22:50,280 Speaker 1: you play harder. It's just that way, and Brady's one 417 00:22:50,280 --> 00:22:52,920 Speaker 1: of them. Jordan's one of them, Deshaun Watson's one of 418 00:22:52,920 --> 00:22:56,119 Speaker 1: the certain guys have this now. Brady's got that. The 419 00:22:56,240 --> 00:22:59,160 Speaker 1: work ethic, the history, the track record, all of it 420 00:22:59,440 --> 00:23:02,120 Speaker 1: to a front Hall of Fame careers not different, but 421 00:23:02,200 --> 00:23:04,200 Speaker 1: you know, the first ten years, the second ten years, 422 00:23:04,200 --> 00:23:06,840 Speaker 1: both their Hall of Fame careers. We've discussed that before. 423 00:23:07,280 --> 00:23:09,080 Speaker 1: I think it would be really interesting to get a 424 00:23:09,240 --> 00:23:12,480 Speaker 1: good glimpse, more than a glimpse, a good look into 425 00:23:12,520 --> 00:23:15,520 Speaker 1: that world. Let's hope they give it to us. And look, 426 00:23:15,520 --> 00:23:18,320 Speaker 1: if they're just ordering this right now, get ready, he's 427 00:23:18,320 --> 00:23:19,840 Speaker 1: going to take at least a year for it to 428 00:23:19,880 --> 00:23:22,280 Speaker 1: get here. Yeah, I think I think they said it 429 00:23:22,359 --> 00:23:25,480 Speaker 1: was coming in twenty twenty one, and I'm like, man 430 00:23:25,960 --> 00:23:32,000 Speaker 1: nine parts. I mean, Jason here, who did the Jordan documentary. 431 00:23:32,040 --> 00:23:37,919 Speaker 1: He started back I think in twenty seventeen, so, and 432 00:23:38,000 --> 00:23:39,800 Speaker 1: I mean, look all the different interviews he was able 433 00:23:39,840 --> 00:23:42,400 Speaker 1: to get. He had to sit with Jordan three separate times, 434 00:23:42,440 --> 00:23:46,600 Speaker 1: which spanned I think about I think fifteen sixteen months. 435 00:23:47,320 --> 00:23:52,879 Speaker 1: And he finished episode ten, he said, on Thursday, and 436 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:59,240 Speaker 1: it played on Sunday. So nine parts, nine parts. Now 437 00:23:59,760 --> 00:24:02,760 Speaker 1: you can do nine parts if in some cases, if 438 00:24:02,760 --> 00:24:05,720 Speaker 1: you want to do like nine half hour segments, obviously 439 00:24:05,760 --> 00:24:08,920 Speaker 1: that's not as taxing. But if you want to give 440 00:24:09,520 --> 00:24:14,280 Speaker 1: the full picture, yeah, then I think obviously you've you've 441 00:24:14,320 --> 00:24:17,760 Speaker 1: got some room to do some things. Well, everybody's seeing 442 00:24:17,800 --> 00:24:20,760 Speaker 1: the last dance. This is just opened ESPN's eyes. ESPN 443 00:24:20,800 --> 00:24:23,280 Speaker 1: has ordered this Brady thing because they see what this 444 00:24:23,440 --> 00:24:25,760 Speaker 1: just did. Now, COVID has a lot to do with it. 445 00:24:25,800 --> 00:24:29,040 Speaker 1: You don't have any playoff competition, no baseball competition, no 446 00:24:29,240 --> 00:24:32,320 Speaker 1: nothing other than the NFL offseason, which is a big thing. 447 00:24:32,359 --> 00:24:35,600 Speaker 1: But they could get by with that and it got 448 00:24:35,760 --> 00:24:39,640 Speaker 1: monster ratings. And what else is more compelling or as 449 00:24:39,680 --> 00:24:43,280 Speaker 1: compelling or Brady Brady's compelling. So let's go with a 450 00:24:43,400 --> 00:24:46,520 Speaker 1: six times Super Bowl champion and get his story, get 451 00:24:46,560 --> 00:24:48,600 Speaker 1: it out there in a similar sort of way. Look 452 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:51,119 Speaker 1: the Last Dance when when this was announced. When I 453 00:24:51,119 --> 00:24:53,800 Speaker 1: first heard about the Last Dance, I thought, they're gonna 454 00:24:53,840 --> 00:24:56,719 Speaker 1: do ten of these. I love thirty four thirties. We 455 00:24:56,760 --> 00:24:59,000 Speaker 1: all do. And when they're two hours, it feels like 456 00:24:59,200 --> 00:25:01,679 Speaker 1: a while, you know, or maybe a two part or 457 00:25:01,680 --> 00:25:05,920 Speaker 1: two hours each feels like a lot of content. Ten episodes. 458 00:25:06,240 --> 00:25:09,720 Speaker 1: But it worked, you know, it was really well done. 459 00:25:09,840 --> 00:25:12,840 Speaker 1: It just jumping back and forth as they got closer 460 00:25:12,880 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: to the end, like ninety eight, now we're jumping back 461 00:25:15,840 --> 00:25:17,439 Speaker 1: to ninety seven. I was like, well, wait a minute, Oh, 462 00:25:17,440 --> 00:25:19,400 Speaker 1: we're in the Eastern Conference finals. Okay, oh, we're back 463 00:25:19,400 --> 00:25:21,280 Speaker 1: to the finals of the previous year. You know, jumping 464 00:25:21,320 --> 00:25:23,240 Speaker 1: back and forth that way was a little strange. I 465 00:25:23,320 --> 00:25:25,720 Speaker 1: just find this stuff fascinating, and this is all we're 466 00:25:25,720 --> 00:25:27,959 Speaker 1: watching right now, and it leads me to this, Johnny. 467 00:25:28,240 --> 00:25:31,800 Speaker 1: There are a ton of football lifes on NFL Network 468 00:25:31,840 --> 00:25:33,680 Speaker 1: that I'm sure a lot of people have not seen. 469 00:25:33,760 --> 00:25:35,600 Speaker 1: And I was kind of joking about Carson Palmer, do 470 00:25:35,680 --> 00:25:37,320 Speaker 1: we really need one? But there are a lot of 471 00:25:37,440 --> 00:25:40,120 Speaker 1: really good ones that people should take a look at. 472 00:25:40,200 --> 00:25:42,840 Speaker 1: I record all of them and catch them when you know, 473 00:25:42,880 --> 00:25:45,040 Speaker 1: I'm looking for something to watch pop on one of 474 00:25:45,080 --> 00:25:48,400 Speaker 1: those babies, and it's great viewing. It's there have been 475 00:25:48,480 --> 00:25:52,600 Speaker 1: so many of them, Mark where I feel like I 476 00:25:52,680 --> 00:25:56,760 Speaker 1: know the story to a degree. In some cases, I 477 00:25:56,800 --> 00:25:59,880 Speaker 1: know it maybe better than I don't want to say 478 00:25:59,880 --> 00:26:03,520 Speaker 1: the normal fan, but the casual fan and I sit 479 00:26:03,600 --> 00:26:06,640 Speaker 1: down and watch it and go man, I didn't know that. 480 00:26:07,240 --> 00:26:09,200 Speaker 1: I had no idea about that. The one that first 481 00:26:09,200 --> 00:26:10,720 Speaker 1: comes to mind. Its funny when you said that, the 482 00:26:10,760 --> 00:26:13,800 Speaker 1: first one that came to mind was Terrell Davis. I 483 00:26:13,800 --> 00:26:15,760 Speaker 1: don't know you've seen the Football Life on Terrell Davis, 484 00:26:16,280 --> 00:26:19,440 Speaker 1: but it's you know, we all we all remember Terrell 485 00:26:19,560 --> 00:26:22,920 Speaker 1: two thousand yard runner for the Broncos, and we think, well, 486 00:26:23,480 --> 00:26:25,800 Speaker 1: you know, his knee injury. That was kind of the story. 487 00:26:25,840 --> 00:26:28,479 Speaker 1: You know, his career was cut short. Man. The fact 488 00:26:28,480 --> 00:26:32,240 Speaker 1: that he even got to the NFL was the story. 489 00:26:32,720 --> 00:26:37,439 Speaker 1: And it's just really it's incredible how NFL films put 490 00:26:37,560 --> 00:26:41,320 Speaker 1: put that. I could watch those Football Life episodes forever 491 00:26:41,400 --> 00:26:47,119 Speaker 1: because there's always something new in those particular episodes that 492 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:51,080 Speaker 1: I didn't know. And the Tarrell Davis episode was was tremendous. 493 00:26:51,119 --> 00:26:52,480 Speaker 1: I knew some of it kind of from a thirty 494 00:26:52,480 --> 00:26:54,680 Speaker 1: thousand feet level, I didn't know the whole thing. But 495 00:26:54,760 --> 00:26:57,760 Speaker 1: then they've also stepped down. They did Houston ninety three, 496 00:26:58,040 --> 00:27:00,760 Speaker 1: then they did Cleveland ninety five. I told the story 497 00:27:00,800 --> 00:27:03,240 Speaker 1: of those two teams and those two cities and those 498 00:27:03,280 --> 00:27:07,920 Speaker 1: particular time, and they were so compelling, so incredibly compelling. 499 00:27:08,000 --> 00:27:10,639 Speaker 1: So I do think that there is a way to 500 00:27:10,680 --> 00:27:12,680 Speaker 1: tell Tom's story. And if you're gonna do it in 501 00:27:12,760 --> 00:27:15,800 Speaker 1: nine parts, here's the thing with you know, the bouncing 502 00:27:15,800 --> 00:27:18,439 Speaker 1: back and forth. You know. I know some people had 503 00:27:18,600 --> 00:27:20,480 Speaker 1: had a kind of a problem with that. I didn't. 504 00:27:20,520 --> 00:27:23,199 Speaker 1: I kind of liked that. I was kind of okay 505 00:27:23,200 --> 00:27:25,680 Speaker 1: with that. It made I don't know, it made sense 506 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:28,600 Speaker 1: to me for some reason watching it that okay, now 507 00:27:28,600 --> 00:27:30,480 Speaker 1: they're gonna go back, now they're gonna tell this. It 508 00:27:30,680 --> 00:27:32,080 Speaker 1: made sense to me, and I know a lot of 509 00:27:32,080 --> 00:27:33,960 Speaker 1: people it didn't. But for some reason watching it, I 510 00:27:34,040 --> 00:27:36,480 Speaker 1: kind of I got the I got what they were 511 00:27:36,480 --> 00:27:40,600 Speaker 1: doing with it. The biggest thing was they ran episodes 512 00:27:40,640 --> 00:27:42,960 Speaker 1: one and two, and obviously everybody wanted to see it, 513 00:27:43,640 --> 00:27:47,200 Speaker 1: but there was so much buzz afterwards that night. Now 514 00:27:47,240 --> 00:27:51,400 Speaker 1: that episode ended East Coast time at eleven o'clock and 515 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,600 Speaker 1: mark my Twitter timeline. Obviously here was ten my Twitter 516 00:27:54,640 --> 00:27:58,560 Speaker 1: timeline couldn't have blown up anymore with hashtag the Last Dance. 517 00:27:58,720 --> 00:28:00,600 Speaker 1: It was amazing. And if you're like, oh man, I 518 00:28:00,600 --> 00:28:03,159 Speaker 1: didn't see it, well, now, obviously you have ways you 519 00:28:03,200 --> 00:28:05,000 Speaker 1: can see it because you go to ESPN Plus or 520 00:28:05,240 --> 00:28:07,480 Speaker 1: watch it if you record on the DVR or whatever. 521 00:28:08,840 --> 00:28:11,080 Speaker 1: But you're like, I'm not missing next week. I'm not 522 00:28:11,160 --> 00:28:13,120 Speaker 1: missing it. And it would get to the point where 523 00:28:13,119 --> 00:28:16,880 Speaker 1: Sunday night, I'm sitting in front it was destination television 524 00:28:16,960 --> 00:28:19,480 Speaker 1: mark for me for the first time in a long time, 525 00:28:19,720 --> 00:28:21,600 Speaker 1: like I had to be sitting in front of that 526 00:28:21,680 --> 00:28:24,199 Speaker 1: television to watch to a point where Page would look 527 00:28:24,240 --> 00:28:27,080 Speaker 1: at me at about seven thirty on Sunday nights and goes, 528 00:28:27,480 --> 00:28:29,560 Speaker 1: are you getting ready for the dance show? And I 529 00:28:29,680 --> 00:28:31,679 Speaker 1: was like dance show? Yeah, the dance show. And I 530 00:28:31,720 --> 00:28:33,720 Speaker 1: was like, well, I do like World of Dance in NBC, 531 00:28:33,800 --> 00:28:35,639 Speaker 1: but no, this is a different kind of dance page. 532 00:28:35,880 --> 00:28:39,080 Speaker 1: And there's a clean version two that are on ESPN two. 533 00:28:39,280 --> 00:28:43,400 Speaker 1: So I'd record, yes, and I would play it for 534 00:28:43,480 --> 00:28:47,240 Speaker 1: vander Kid, the clean one and sometimes not the clean one, 535 00:28:47,280 --> 00:28:52,800 Speaker 1: all right, So and I believe it was nineteen sixty. 536 00:28:53,360 --> 00:28:56,920 Speaker 1: There was a CBS television special called The Violent World 537 00:28:56,960 --> 00:29:00,440 Speaker 1: of Sam Huff Yes, and I forget where I saw 538 00:29:00,480 --> 00:29:03,120 Speaker 1: this tweeted or reported on, because it was going back 539 00:29:03,120 --> 00:29:05,720 Speaker 1: to the sports documentaries, and this is one of the 540 00:29:05,800 --> 00:29:08,280 Speaker 1: very first ones that took you behind the scenes. And 541 00:29:08,280 --> 00:29:10,800 Speaker 1: it's on YouTube. I'm gonna check out. It's forty three 542 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:13,280 Speaker 1: minutes here, forty four minutes on YouTube and you can 543 00:29:13,320 --> 00:29:16,360 Speaker 1: watch it. A CBS television special from the sixties. And 544 00:29:16,440 --> 00:29:19,880 Speaker 1: remember when Hard Knocks came here to document the Houston 545 00:29:19,920 --> 00:29:24,240 Speaker 1: Texans twenty fifteen training camp. I remember that Matt Dissinger, 546 00:29:24,360 --> 00:29:28,080 Speaker 1: the director and Ken Rogers, the producer, they were talking 547 00:29:28,120 --> 00:29:32,320 Speaker 1: about the origins of this of Hard Knocks and NFL films, 548 00:29:32,680 --> 00:29:36,920 Speaker 1: visiting Vince Lombardi and the Packers in the late sixties, 549 00:29:37,400 --> 00:29:41,040 Speaker 1: and I guess it was earlier. It was earlier before 550 00:29:41,160 --> 00:29:43,680 Speaker 1: Vince started to win championships, or was he winning already, 551 00:29:43,680 --> 00:29:46,960 Speaker 1: I can't remember, but Vince did tell them and this 552 00:29:47,040 --> 00:29:51,880 Speaker 1: was a key selling point from there on out to 553 00:29:51,920 --> 00:29:55,960 Speaker 1: get access to NFL camps. Vince told the director that 554 00:29:56,480 --> 00:30:00,320 Speaker 1: the players were practicing harder when the cameras were rolling, 555 00:30:00,440 --> 00:30:02,959 Speaker 1: so come on and shoot some more stuff. He liked it. 556 00:30:03,000 --> 00:30:05,360 Speaker 1: He liked it. Yeah, he liked it because he did 557 00:30:05,440 --> 00:30:08,960 Speaker 1: he thought that his players played a little bit harder 558 00:30:09,000 --> 00:30:12,600 Speaker 1: with that camera on them than not. Now, I would 559 00:30:12,600 --> 00:30:16,000 Speaker 1: imagine flash forward, you know, fifty sixty years forward, and 560 00:30:17,800 --> 00:30:20,840 Speaker 1: everywhere these players have gone, there's been a camera on them, 561 00:30:20,920 --> 00:30:23,920 Speaker 1: no matter, no matter where they where they have been. 562 00:30:24,080 --> 00:30:27,920 Speaker 1: So I think it's it's probably changed a little bit, 563 00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:31,160 Speaker 1: but I would imagine I would imagine if getting to 564 00:30:31,200 --> 00:30:33,479 Speaker 1: play and we have over the years, we've gotten players 565 00:30:33,520 --> 00:30:37,320 Speaker 1: kind of in a quiet moment, asked them about hard knocks, uh, 566 00:30:37,400 --> 00:30:39,320 Speaker 1: And it's it's been kind of interesting because a lot 567 00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:42,120 Speaker 1: of them pretty much just wanted nothing to do with 568 00:30:42,120 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: with hard knocks. I remember j Quiz Rodgers, he was 569 00:30:44,120 --> 00:30:47,000 Speaker 1: playing with Atlanta at twenty fourteen, and that they Atlanta 570 00:30:47,040 --> 00:30:51,760 Speaker 1: had come to Houston. And I remember because his uncle 571 00:30:52,200 --> 00:30:53,680 Speaker 1: is a good friend of mine, his agent, and so 572 00:30:54,360 --> 00:30:56,080 Speaker 1: we talk a lot of times about different things and 573 00:30:56,160 --> 00:30:59,160 Speaker 1: prospects and such, and so I went over to see 574 00:30:59,240 --> 00:31:02,040 Speaker 1: him and they were asking him about hard knocks, and 575 00:31:02,080 --> 00:31:03,600 Speaker 1: they're like, you're trying to get on camera, trying to 576 00:31:03,600 --> 00:31:05,600 Speaker 1: get a camera goes, I'm getting as far away from 577 00:31:05,600 --> 00:31:08,760 Speaker 1: that camera as possible. And there was one scene in 578 00:31:08,840 --> 00:31:11,600 Speaker 1: which Quiz it was a running backs meeting and Quizzle 579 00:31:11,640 --> 00:31:13,160 Speaker 1: sitting that you could see him look and see the 580 00:31:13,200 --> 00:31:16,640 Speaker 1: camera and he just bolts. He gets he gets out 581 00:31:16,680 --> 00:31:18,840 Speaker 1: of dodge. So I'm sure there were a few players 582 00:31:18,840 --> 00:31:20,760 Speaker 1: that were like that, that wanted nothing to do with it. 583 00:31:20,920 --> 00:31:22,800 Speaker 1: And then I'm sure there were a few that probably 584 00:31:23,480 --> 00:31:27,840 Speaker 1: reveled in the limelight that Hard Knocks creates for these 585 00:31:27,960 --> 00:31:30,800 Speaker 1: NFL players. I'll be here. That's you know, that's one 586 00:31:30,840 --> 00:31:33,120 Speaker 1: thing we ever really talked about. Mark, Will there be 587 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:34,680 Speaker 1: a Hard Knocks? I guess if there's a training camp, 588 00:31:34,720 --> 00:31:37,000 Speaker 1: it's gotta be a hard Knocks, right. I haven't heard 589 00:31:37,760 --> 00:31:40,560 Speaker 1: anything about it this year, and I think it's gonna 590 00:31:40,600 --> 00:31:42,640 Speaker 1: be tough for them. It's gonna be, but there's gotta 591 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: be right. If there's gonna be training camp, there's gotta 592 00:31:45,720 --> 00:31:48,680 Speaker 1: be a hard Knocks. Didn't Rogers go to Lamar consolidated? 593 00:31:48,760 --> 00:31:51,360 Speaker 1: You're all blah blah as well, Quiz Okay, Mark saw 594 00:31:51,440 --> 00:31:53,880 Speaker 1: the best football programs in the city, or at least 595 00:31:53,880 --> 00:31:56,440 Speaker 1: it was. Then they split and they want the Foster 596 00:31:56,560 --> 00:31:59,000 Speaker 1: so ceedee, lamb, what are gone on? La Mark consolidate 597 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:03,800 Speaker 1: it but steady and with the Foster all because of that, 598 00:32:03,920 --> 00:32:06,280 Speaker 1: schools have split because the area has grown so much 599 00:32:06,280 --> 00:32:08,920 Speaker 1: out there in Richmond in particular. So yeah, that would 600 00:32:09,080 --> 00:32:12,520 Speaker 1: that would all been Lamarket Solidated. But Foster was what 601 00:32:12,640 --> 00:32:15,120 Speaker 1: oh seven or eight somewhere and that maybe a little 602 00:32:15,120 --> 00:32:17,600 Speaker 1: bit earlier, but about that time frame, so that really 603 00:32:17,680 --> 00:32:21,160 Speaker 1: kind of pulled away. But Quiz is in his his 604 00:32:21,280 --> 00:32:24,280 Speaker 1: brother Quiz and Qwan James Rodgers, who both played at 605 00:32:24,320 --> 00:32:26,080 Speaker 1: Organ State. It was so funny to see those two 606 00:32:26,080 --> 00:32:28,600 Speaker 1: out of Organ State and here they are. Neither one 607 00:32:28,600 --> 00:32:30,880 Speaker 1: of them is bigger than five to seven. And they 608 00:32:30,880 --> 00:32:33,720 Speaker 1: were such giants in that program. I mean, they were 609 00:32:33,800 --> 00:32:37,520 Speaker 1: absolutely beloved in Corvallis. It was it was amazing to 610 00:32:37,560 --> 00:32:40,600 Speaker 1: see and and unfortunately James heard his knee late in 611 00:32:40,600 --> 00:32:43,520 Speaker 1: his career, but Quiz was able to put together a 612 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:46,560 Speaker 1: decently long career in the NFL. So yeah, Lamarket Solidate 613 00:32:46,640 --> 00:32:49,960 Speaker 1: is where it's at. My friend, Well, I hope there's 614 00:32:49,960 --> 00:32:51,960 Speaker 1: a hard Knox. I hope there's a full training camp 615 00:32:51,960 --> 00:32:53,880 Speaker 1: that we all can go to that we all can observe. 616 00:32:53,920 --> 00:32:56,560 Speaker 1: I mean, every time I talked to McLean, I get depressed. 617 00:32:57,120 --> 00:32:59,440 Speaker 1: I don't know if we're gonna be loud to see 618 00:32:59,480 --> 00:33:02,760 Speaker 1: these games. I'm like, oh my gosh, Oh my gosh. 619 00:33:02,840 --> 00:33:05,640 Speaker 1: I know on television, you know, as far as what 620 00:33:05,720 --> 00:33:07,719 Speaker 1: we do, we're spoiled. We get to see everything up 621 00:33:07,720 --> 00:33:10,760 Speaker 1: close and personal. Right, fans are thinking, well, I watched 622 00:33:10,800 --> 00:33:13,080 Speaker 1: on TV anyway, so it's no difference to me really 623 00:33:13,080 --> 00:33:14,760 Speaker 1: the way they're going to do it. I prefer fans 624 00:33:14,760 --> 00:33:17,120 Speaker 1: in the sands, just for the atmosphere. But you know, 625 00:33:17,200 --> 00:33:19,280 Speaker 1: it's just different. It's just different. Let's just hope it 626 00:33:19,280 --> 00:33:21,680 Speaker 1: all gets done, and the most important thing is getting 627 00:33:21,680 --> 00:33:24,800 Speaker 1: COVID behind us in some way, shape or form, coming 628 00:33:24,880 --> 00:33:27,320 Speaker 1: up with some sort of solution, some sort of remedy 629 00:33:27,680 --> 00:33:29,680 Speaker 1: so we can all get back to normal life, and 630 00:33:29,720 --> 00:33:31,920 Speaker 1: obviously football would be a part of that. Johnny, thanks 631 00:33:31,960 --> 00:33:34,760 Speaker 1: so much for visiting tonight. Absolutely, Mark, thank you. M 632 00:33:35,200 --> 00:33:38,400 Speaker 1: all right, John Harris with us Coming up next, it's 633 00:33:38,520 --> 00:33:41,840 Speaker 1: Patti Smith from the Harris County Houston Sports Authority. But 634 00:33:41,920 --> 00:33:43,800 Speaker 1: she's so much more than that, right, I mean, the 635 00:33:43,800 --> 00:33:46,280 Speaker 1: Houston Sports Awards has been great and she's been running 636 00:33:46,320 --> 00:33:50,440 Speaker 1: the show there but covering the Astros rockets Texans for 637 00:33:50,480 --> 00:33:52,400 Speaker 1: so many years? What does she think of everything that's 638 00:33:52,400 --> 00:33:54,920 Speaker 1: going on? And this is kind of a pregame show 639 00:33:55,000 --> 00:33:58,680 Speaker 1: to her visit with Justin Reed tonight at seven o'clock 640 00:33:58,720 --> 00:34:01,280 Speaker 1: on the queued up Show. What's that going to be like? 641 00:34:01,320 --> 00:34:07,640 Speaker 1: We'll find out next here on Texans All Access. For 642 00:34:07,720 --> 00:34:10,840 Speaker 1: the most in depth coverage of your favorite team and players, 643 00:34:11,160 --> 00:34:20,279 Speaker 1: check out Houston Texans dot com. Now back to more 644 00:34:20,440 --> 00:34:27,880 Speaker 1: Texans talk on Texans All Access. Continuing things on Texans 645 00:34:27,920 --> 00:34:31,640 Speaker 1: All Access today, Mark VanderMeer with you, joined now by 646 00:34:31,760 --> 00:34:35,120 Speaker 1: my friend Patty Smith of Harris Cuddy Houston Sports Authority, 647 00:34:35,440 --> 00:34:39,280 Speaker 1: formerly of Fox Sports Southwest, and so many other things. Patty, welcome, 648 00:34:39,400 --> 00:34:43,479 Speaker 1: How are you? I am great, all things considered, Mark, 649 00:34:43,560 --> 00:34:46,319 Speaker 1: how are you doing? I'm doing well. We were talking 650 00:34:46,360 --> 00:34:48,360 Speaker 1: a little bit off the air about my feelings on 651 00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:51,160 Speaker 1: the lockdown and how I'm coping. How are you coping? 652 00:34:51,200 --> 00:34:53,200 Speaker 1: How are you spending your time? Are you working out 653 00:34:53,200 --> 00:34:55,120 Speaker 1: of the house more or less? Are you back in 654 00:34:55,160 --> 00:34:57,240 Speaker 1: the office a little bit now? How are you handling 655 00:34:57,280 --> 00:35:02,359 Speaker 1: life working out of the house. We are not in 656 00:35:02,400 --> 00:35:05,920 Speaker 1: our office at all. We are extremely busy, which is 657 00:35:06,000 --> 00:35:09,280 Speaker 1: kind of crazy. To think we are busy doing things 658 00:35:09,320 --> 00:35:12,759 Speaker 1: in such a different way and kind of reimagining how 659 00:35:12,880 --> 00:35:16,040 Speaker 1: we used to do things, you know, from the confines 660 00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480 Speaker 1: of our house. So of course we're you know, so 661 00:35:18,600 --> 00:35:22,440 Speaker 1: much involved in events, and with so many events being canceled, 662 00:35:22,760 --> 00:35:24,120 Speaker 1: you know, we had to spend a lot of time 663 00:35:24,200 --> 00:35:27,880 Speaker 1: doing that postponium, changing things, rearranging things. And then of 664 00:35:27,880 --> 00:35:30,480 Speaker 1: course we've launched this new show, which has brought me 665 00:35:30,520 --> 00:35:32,799 Speaker 1: to what we're here to talk about tonight. Yeah, it's 666 00:35:32,880 --> 00:35:37,000 Speaker 1: queued up que apostrophe Is it e ed or D 667 00:35:37,320 --> 00:35:41,839 Speaker 1: or whatever? Queued up? Tell me about just que apostrophe 668 00:35:41,960 --> 00:35:45,960 Speaker 1: D queue for quarantine. Of course, we launched it immediately, 669 00:35:46,120 --> 00:35:48,640 Speaker 1: like right away. We were I would like to say, pioneers. 670 00:35:48,640 --> 00:35:50,080 Speaker 1: We were one of the first ones to jump on 671 00:35:50,160 --> 00:35:53,239 Speaker 1: and do the whole zoom show call with graphics, a 672 00:35:53,280 --> 00:35:56,840 Speaker 1: whole bit. So we're like in week numbers seven or 673 00:35:56,880 --> 00:36:00,200 Speaker 1: eight on this already. We have a new episode out 674 00:36:00,239 --> 00:36:03,360 Speaker 1: every Thursday night. We go live with a Facebook watch party, 675 00:36:03,880 --> 00:36:07,279 Speaker 1: and we do different Houston athletes. We started off we 676 00:36:07,400 --> 00:36:11,160 Speaker 1: premiered back in March with Jeff Bagwell. We've done Roger Clemens, 677 00:36:11,239 --> 00:36:15,160 Speaker 1: We've done George Foreman Whitney mercill of Alex Bregman. So 678 00:36:15,200 --> 00:36:17,839 Speaker 1: we just kind of do you know, thirty forty five 679 00:36:17,880 --> 00:36:20,040 Speaker 1: minutes with a Houston athlete and kind of just talk 680 00:36:20,120 --> 00:36:23,280 Speaker 1: about what's going on in their life now, their careers 681 00:36:23,280 --> 00:36:25,200 Speaker 1: and just sort of have some fun with it. And 682 00:36:25,360 --> 00:36:28,600 Speaker 1: you have Justin read on tonight, which is very cool. 683 00:36:28,600 --> 00:36:33,359 Speaker 1: That's not in a few minutes seven pm Central Justin Reid, right, Yes, 684 00:36:33,560 --> 00:36:37,640 Speaker 1: Justin was actually a blast, and we for the you know, 685 00:36:37,760 --> 00:36:39,399 Speaker 1: we kind of try to change things up a little 686 00:36:39,440 --> 00:36:41,960 Speaker 1: bit each time. When we had Alex Bregman on, we 687 00:36:42,040 --> 00:36:45,400 Speaker 1: had Paul Wall came in and you know, zoom moms 688 00:36:45,440 --> 00:36:47,480 Speaker 1: the call and we didn't tell Alex, so we had 689 00:36:47,520 --> 00:36:50,400 Speaker 1: fun with it that way. But with Justin, this was 690 00:36:50,400 --> 00:36:52,319 Speaker 1: the first time we've kind of done it with a 691 00:36:52,360 --> 00:36:54,839 Speaker 1: live studio audience so to speak. I'm doing that with 692 00:36:54,880 --> 00:36:58,560 Speaker 1: air quotes that you can't see. But we invited some 693 00:36:58,760 --> 00:37:01,200 Speaker 1: people off of social media and some fans to come 694 00:37:01,239 --> 00:37:03,520 Speaker 1: and be a part of the call. So Justin and 695 00:37:03,560 --> 00:37:06,000 Speaker 1: I continued and did the interview as normal, but we 696 00:37:06,080 --> 00:37:09,120 Speaker 1: had about ten or fifteen fans that were watching, and 697 00:37:09,120 --> 00:37:10,840 Speaker 1: then at the end they were able to interact and 698 00:37:10,840 --> 00:37:13,840 Speaker 1: ask him some questions and he was just phenomenal. So 699 00:37:13,840 --> 00:37:18,000 Speaker 1: it was a lot of fun. Justin is a great talker, 700 00:37:18,320 --> 00:37:20,560 Speaker 1: great player. He's going to be good here for a 701 00:37:20,600 --> 00:37:22,600 Speaker 1: long time. So I can't wait to check this one 702 00:37:22,600 --> 00:37:25,040 Speaker 1: out tonight at seven with queued up. Now, tell me 703 00:37:25,080 --> 00:37:28,440 Speaker 1: about Clements. How did that go? I saw that. That's 704 00:37:28,480 --> 00:37:32,640 Speaker 1: fun to interview Roger for you. He's always talked with you, 705 00:37:32,800 --> 00:37:36,799 Speaker 1: even in the dare I say, darkest days. So what 706 00:37:36,920 --> 00:37:38,799 Speaker 1: was it like to meet up with him and do 707 00:37:38,880 --> 00:37:43,480 Speaker 1: this show? It was great. Rogers is easy, you know, 708 00:37:43,680 --> 00:37:46,240 Speaker 1: you can just toss anything out there and he just goes. 709 00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:50,920 Speaker 1: And Roger actually went about an hour long show and 710 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:55,200 Speaker 1: we were Yeah, he sat in his office and then 711 00:37:55,840 --> 00:37:57,680 Speaker 1: he had him kind of pick up his laptop and 712 00:37:57,719 --> 00:38:00,440 Speaker 1: take us out to his calls at the Dome. Out there, 713 00:38:00,520 --> 00:38:03,319 Speaker 1: he has his own little training facility and he has 714 00:38:03,400 --> 00:38:05,560 Speaker 1: the colors and some of the athletes coming out there 715 00:38:05,600 --> 00:38:08,040 Speaker 1: still to train. So he kind of took his laptop 716 00:38:08,080 --> 00:38:10,000 Speaker 1: out there and gave us a little tour and showed us, 717 00:38:10,080 --> 00:38:12,759 Speaker 1: you know, where he works out kind of his whole compound, 718 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:16,560 Speaker 1: some of his memorabilias. So it was pretty cool. Sounds 719 00:38:16,640 --> 00:38:20,680 Speaker 1: very cool, Patty. You've been in this business for a while, obviously, 720 00:38:21,560 --> 00:38:24,080 Speaker 1: not obviously, but with all your experience, I mean, covering 721 00:38:24,080 --> 00:38:28,359 Speaker 1: the Astros, covering the Rockets, doing so much reporting for them. 722 00:38:28,920 --> 00:38:31,600 Speaker 1: How bizarre is this to you to see Let's forget 723 00:38:31,600 --> 00:38:34,440 Speaker 1: about football for a moment, because you hosted Texas Huddle 724 00:38:34,480 --> 00:38:38,759 Speaker 1: for years, but let's talk about baseball and basketball. What 725 00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,120 Speaker 1: they're going through. Basketball having the plug pulled, and baseball 726 00:38:42,520 --> 00:38:46,200 Speaker 1: having the plug pulled before it ever gets started. It's 727 00:38:46,480 --> 00:38:50,240 Speaker 1: it's crazy. I mean, it's it's almost it is inconceivable, 728 00:38:50,320 --> 00:38:52,920 Speaker 1: but yet here we are, so obviously we can conceive it. 729 00:38:53,120 --> 00:38:54,960 Speaker 1: You know, how it comes back is going to be 730 00:38:55,520 --> 00:38:57,480 Speaker 1: really the interesting thing. And this is something that I 731 00:38:57,600 --> 00:38:59,759 Speaker 1: talked to every one of these athletes about on these 732 00:39:00,000 --> 00:39:01,680 Speaker 1: all you know, kind of what they're hearing, what it 733 00:39:01,680 --> 00:39:03,160 Speaker 1: will be like if they do have to go to 734 00:39:03,200 --> 00:39:07,120 Speaker 1: empty stadiums and play with no fans, and none of 735 00:39:07,160 --> 00:39:08,960 Speaker 1: them like that, but they all want to get back 736 00:39:08,960 --> 00:39:10,759 Speaker 1: out there on the field, so they're willing to do it. 737 00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:13,640 Speaker 1: Of course. I think, I don't know how you feel 738 00:39:13,680 --> 00:39:17,840 Speaker 1: about it, but for me, baseball seems fairly easy to me. 739 00:39:18,080 --> 00:39:21,000 Speaker 1: You know it's not so much of a contact sport football, 740 00:39:21,040 --> 00:39:22,759 Speaker 1: and I would love to hear your take on that 741 00:39:22,800 --> 00:39:25,480 Speaker 1: when you hear they're talking about trying to create masks 742 00:39:25,520 --> 00:39:28,360 Speaker 1: to wear under their helmets and you know, some weird stuff. 743 00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:30,800 Speaker 1: So I don't know that one is such a contact sport. 744 00:39:31,280 --> 00:39:34,320 Speaker 1: I don't know. I don't know. I mean, it seems 745 00:39:34,360 --> 00:39:37,239 Speaker 1: so like you and I were talking before, not to say, oh, 746 00:39:37,400 --> 00:39:40,279 Speaker 1: sixty thousand people in one place. You're like, oh, that 747 00:39:40,400 --> 00:39:42,799 Speaker 1: just can't happen, Like it's it's such a terrible thing. 748 00:39:43,000 --> 00:39:45,799 Speaker 1: It's just what we've done for our entire lives. So 749 00:39:46,320 --> 00:39:49,000 Speaker 1: you know, our new norm is just so different. I 750 00:39:49,000 --> 00:39:51,520 Speaker 1: don't know how it translates. It's it's hard to get 751 00:39:51,560 --> 00:39:53,880 Speaker 1: your arms around all of it, and it just changes 752 00:39:54,000 --> 00:39:56,240 Speaker 1: day by day. So I kind of like somebody else, 753 00:39:56,760 --> 00:39:58,719 Speaker 1: you know, and just kind of waiting to see and 754 00:39:58,920 --> 00:40:01,279 Speaker 1: hoping it all comes back. Well. I think there's risk 755 00:40:01,320 --> 00:40:04,000 Speaker 1: in anything, and I think that the only way you 756 00:40:04,000 --> 00:40:06,919 Speaker 1: can have football and basketball and you know baseball too. 757 00:40:07,040 --> 00:40:09,960 Speaker 1: You're right, baseball you can still sort of socially distanced 758 00:40:10,000 --> 00:40:13,200 Speaker 1: and play it to a large degree. And I know 759 00:40:13,200 --> 00:40:15,400 Speaker 1: they have all these rules about no spinning and things 760 00:40:15,440 --> 00:40:17,759 Speaker 1: like that. It's gonna be bizarre. No throwing the ball 761 00:40:17,800 --> 00:40:20,560 Speaker 1: around the horn. I think that one's a little too much. 762 00:40:20,840 --> 00:40:24,400 Speaker 1: But okay, but with football, I mean there's some touching 763 00:40:24,440 --> 00:40:28,840 Speaker 1: going on here. Basketball a little bit, right. I mean basketball, 764 00:40:28,840 --> 00:40:31,320 Speaker 1: you're not gonna have masks. You're not gonna play basketball 765 00:40:31,360 --> 00:40:34,239 Speaker 1: like that. They have to use the biodome concept at 766 00:40:34,320 --> 00:40:36,880 Speaker 1: Disney World, which is what apparently is going to happen. 767 00:40:37,360 --> 00:40:39,680 Speaker 1: But I think that the key is not to freak 768 00:40:39,719 --> 00:40:42,480 Speaker 1: out if somebody gets it. If somebody gets it, you're 769 00:40:42,520 --> 00:40:45,680 Speaker 1: just gonna have to remove them from the situation and 770 00:40:45,840 --> 00:40:48,600 Speaker 1: hope that more people didn't get it. And if they do, 771 00:40:48,719 --> 00:40:50,840 Speaker 1: I guess you have to adjust accordingly. You might have 772 00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:54,080 Speaker 1: to have a large reserve of players to sort of 773 00:40:54,120 --> 00:40:57,800 Speaker 1: fill in. But you know football teams, flu goes around 774 00:40:57,920 --> 00:41:01,680 Speaker 1: staff infections sometimes become a problem in some organizations that 775 00:41:01,719 --> 00:41:03,560 Speaker 1: you got to deal with that. So it's not like 776 00:41:03,719 --> 00:41:06,720 Speaker 1: they're not used to this sort of thing. But there's 777 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:11,000 Speaker 1: such a level of concern, panic fear about coronavirus, and 778 00:41:11,040 --> 00:41:13,600 Speaker 1: I get why, and it's just something they're gonna have 779 00:41:13,640 --> 00:41:14,800 Speaker 1: to deal with. I mean, it's the only way you 780 00:41:14,800 --> 00:41:17,560 Speaker 1: can possibly play. I don't know if you're with me, 781 00:41:17,680 --> 00:41:20,000 Speaker 1: but I feel like they need to play. They need 782 00:41:20,000 --> 00:41:22,000 Speaker 1: to play for I don't want to be dramatic, but 783 00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:26,400 Speaker 1: for America, we need stuff like this to come back well, 784 00:41:26,800 --> 00:41:28,760 Speaker 1: I mean no doubt, And this was the whole premise 785 00:41:28,880 --> 00:41:31,239 Speaker 1: for starting qued Up. When you think of any of 786 00:41:31,280 --> 00:41:35,160 Speaker 1: these other things throughout the course of history, or especially 787 00:41:35,200 --> 00:41:38,520 Speaker 1: in our lifetime that has happened, whether it was a 788 00:41:38,640 --> 00:41:41,799 Speaker 1: hurricane or whether it was nine to eleven, sports was 789 00:41:41,880 --> 00:41:44,640 Speaker 1: that kind of common bond that brought people back together again. 790 00:41:44,640 --> 00:41:47,680 Speaker 1: It was sports that was able to take people's minds 791 00:41:47,719 --> 00:41:50,480 Speaker 1: off of things. So without sports here now there is 792 00:41:50,520 --> 00:41:53,920 Speaker 1: such a void. There's no content. I mean, no wonder 793 00:41:53,960 --> 00:41:56,640 Speaker 1: the last Dance was so successful, and that's kind of 794 00:41:56,640 --> 00:41:58,200 Speaker 1: what we were trying to do with qued Up was 795 00:41:58,200 --> 00:42:01,359 Speaker 1: to provide some live sports content because people want it 796 00:42:01,480 --> 00:42:04,080 Speaker 1: and people are you know, look at all the UFC 797 00:42:04,239 --> 00:42:07,000 Speaker 1: fans Now. I watch UFC because there's nothing else to watch. 798 00:42:07,000 --> 00:42:09,840 Speaker 1: I couldn't wait for that that match the other night. Yeah, 799 00:42:10,000 --> 00:42:12,600 Speaker 1: that's a good point. And they're doing some touching. There's 800 00:42:12,640 --> 00:42:16,240 Speaker 1: some contact there that's not social distancing right there with UFC. 801 00:42:16,360 --> 00:42:18,799 Speaker 1: Are you with me that? Why did they ever even 802 00:42:18,840 --> 00:42:21,640 Speaker 1: stop playing golf? I mean you could. People are playing 803 00:42:21,680 --> 00:42:24,280 Speaker 1: golf anyway, you could almost do it. Just no fans. 804 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:26,600 Speaker 1: I've watched so many tournaments on the Golf channel that 805 00:42:26,640 --> 00:42:29,840 Speaker 1: have no fans anyway. Just play golf, do it. That's 806 00:42:29,880 --> 00:42:32,600 Speaker 1: all I'm doing. I leave my little office here at 807 00:42:32,600 --> 00:42:35,080 Speaker 1: my house with about four o'clock in the afternoon, up 808 00:42:35,120 --> 00:42:36,879 Speaker 1: in my car, go down and got you know, golf 809 00:42:36,960 --> 00:42:39,759 Speaker 1: course smiled down the street. I've dropped my handicap by 810 00:42:39,800 --> 00:42:42,360 Speaker 1: a good eight stroke. Your pandemic because I'm able to 811 00:42:42,400 --> 00:42:44,480 Speaker 1: play so much golf. Oh, you're scaring me. I don't 812 00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,000 Speaker 1: want to play. You know my game pretty well. Mark, Yes, 813 00:42:47,440 --> 00:42:49,080 Speaker 1: you might. You might not want to mess with me, right, 814 00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,959 Speaker 1: I think I might be able to beat you too good. 815 00:42:52,560 --> 00:42:54,600 Speaker 1: How is the George Foreman interview? Because I did not 816 00:42:54,760 --> 00:42:58,080 Speaker 1: catch that one I queued up. George is always awesome. 817 00:42:58,400 --> 00:43:01,600 Speaker 1: The guy is such a character, and he's you know, 818 00:43:01,880 --> 00:43:05,880 Speaker 1: he's got a bigger than life personality. And you know, 819 00:43:06,000 --> 00:43:08,480 Speaker 1: no matter how big he is, he takes the time 820 00:43:08,560 --> 00:43:11,160 Speaker 1: and he does this. He's up in his he's got 821 00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,360 Speaker 1: his family up at he's got like a lake house 822 00:43:13,719 --> 00:43:16,480 Speaker 1: that's even further out than where they live here in Houston. 823 00:43:16,800 --> 00:43:18,840 Speaker 1: They're all up there together with his grandkids and you 824 00:43:18,880 --> 00:43:21,800 Speaker 1: can hear them running around in the background. And he's 825 00:43:21,840 --> 00:43:24,719 Speaker 1: a preacher, so he does his weekly sermon. Still puts 826 00:43:24,800 --> 00:43:27,360 Speaker 1: him on Instagram. But he was great. He was telling 827 00:43:27,360 --> 00:43:30,320 Speaker 1: the old stories of All League and Frazier and and 828 00:43:30,960 --> 00:43:33,640 Speaker 1: you know, just his his day's growing up in uh 829 00:43:34,040 --> 00:43:36,440 Speaker 1: here in downtown Houston and kind of what a you know, 830 00:43:36,600 --> 00:43:40,320 Speaker 1: self proclaimed stug he was and now boxing changed his life. 831 00:43:40,360 --> 00:43:44,000 Speaker 1: So really interesting stuff. And you know, all those are archives, 832 00:43:44,040 --> 00:43:45,920 Speaker 1: so anybody who wants to see it can certainly go 833 00:43:46,080 --> 00:43:49,360 Speaker 1: to um, you know, Houston sports dot org, girl YouTube channel, 834 00:43:49,480 --> 00:43:51,839 Speaker 1: or even the sports author his Facebook page and see them. 835 00:43:52,320 --> 00:43:55,840 Speaker 1: He was really good. But it's tonight with Justin reid 836 00:43:56,000 --> 00:43:59,520 Speaker 1: on queued up, So where can people go get the archives? 837 00:43:59,640 --> 00:44:02,960 Speaker 1: And tonight how did they catch you? Once again? Well tonight, 838 00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,480 Speaker 1: go to the Harris County Houston Sports Story Facebook page. 839 00:44:07,880 --> 00:44:12,040 Speaker 1: Click interested now, click a little interested button. It will 840 00:44:12,040 --> 00:44:14,120 Speaker 1: remind you if you forget between now and then, it 841 00:44:14,120 --> 00:44:16,040 Speaker 1: will copyright up on your Facebook page. But like us, 842 00:44:16,040 --> 00:44:18,799 Speaker 1: follow us, whatever, so you'll always be reminded, But yeah, 843 00:44:18,920 --> 00:44:21,240 Speaker 1: jump in on the watch Party live at seven. Justin 844 00:44:21,280 --> 00:44:24,760 Speaker 1: will be on there and he does some really cool stuff. 845 00:44:24,760 --> 00:44:26,439 Speaker 1: We had some I told you some of the fans 846 00:44:26,560 --> 00:44:28,239 Speaker 1: were on there. We had a family that was on 847 00:44:28,400 --> 00:44:30,920 Speaker 1: from Mexico and at the end they asked him a 848 00:44:31,000 --> 00:44:34,240 Speaker 1: question and he just answered it whipped out. He answered 849 00:44:34,239 --> 00:44:37,879 Speaker 1: it in Spanish like it was nothing. We someone asked 850 00:44:37,920 --> 00:44:41,000 Speaker 1: him what he's doing in his spare time since he's 851 00:44:41,000 --> 00:44:43,040 Speaker 1: been quarantined, and he's like, well, well, you know, I 852 00:44:43,120 --> 00:44:45,280 Speaker 1: kind of learned to play the piano. I taught myself 853 00:44:45,280 --> 00:44:47,680 Speaker 1: to play the piano. And so I'm like, all right, 854 00:44:47,719 --> 00:44:49,680 Speaker 1: well list up your laptop and go take it over 855 00:44:49,719 --> 00:44:52,880 Speaker 1: and play with something. So he does. He listed up, 856 00:44:52,920 --> 00:44:55,200 Speaker 1: goes over to his keyboard, tips downs and plays this 857 00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:57,880 Speaker 1: John Legend song. Just looks it out like it's nothing. 858 00:44:58,040 --> 00:45:01,600 Speaker 1: So anyway, he's just he was a lot of fun. 859 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:04,680 Speaker 1: But yeah, hop on the watch Party at seven o'clock 860 00:45:05,360 --> 00:45:07,279 Speaker 1: and watch it there and then if you happen to 861 00:45:07,400 --> 00:45:09,560 Speaker 1: miss it or whatever, you can always go back and 862 00:45:09,600 --> 00:45:12,160 Speaker 1: find it, or you can go to the Sports Story 863 00:45:12,239 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: YouTube channel or our website at Houston sports dot org. 864 00:45:15,560 --> 00:45:17,960 Speaker 1: All right, coming up, in just a few moments. Patti Smith, 865 00:45:18,040 --> 00:45:20,680 Speaker 1: justin Reid, cute up. Thanks so much for joining us, Patty, 866 00:45:21,120 --> 00:45:23,840 Speaker 1: thank you, Mark, stay safe. All right, that's Patty Smith. 867 00:45:24,000 --> 00:45:26,440 Speaker 1: Always a pleasure to catch up with her. And that's 868 00:45:26,440 --> 00:45:28,480 Speaker 1: gonna do it for the show. Thank you, John McClain, 869 00:45:28,960 --> 00:45:33,239 Speaker 1: John Harris. We're back tomorrow night us. Let's see, we're 870 00:45:33,280 --> 00:45:36,880 Speaker 1: gonna have a segment of Tim Kelly stuff, bootleg stuff 871 00:45:36,880 --> 00:45:38,799 Speaker 1: that you have not heard yet. And by the way, 872 00:45:38,840 --> 00:45:41,160 Speaker 1: I'll be on with Seth Payne and Sean Pendergast tomorrow 873 00:45:41,200 --> 00:45:44,560 Speaker 1: morning eight to nine am during their program. So thank 874 00:45:44,600 --> 00:45:47,480 Speaker 1: you very much, Joanna for producing, Bridget for helping out. 875 00:45:47,719 --> 00:45:53,440 Speaker 1: Have a great night everyone, and go Texans. This is 876 00:45:53,480 --> 00:45:57,000 Speaker 1: Texans Radio on Sports Radio six ten Radio.