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Speaker 1: You are listening to the Dan Patrick Show on Fox

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Speaker 1: Sports Radio. Rodney Harrison should be in the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 1: He was a part of two Super Bowl champion teams

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Speaker 1: with the Patriots. He of course an analyst on Football

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Speaker 1: Night in America and coverage begins a special onsite edition

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Speaker 1: of Football Night in America at seven Eastern Rodney, how

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Speaker 1: are you, buddy? What's up? Dan? How are you? Man?

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Speaker 1: What do you think happens in this game? As far

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Speaker 1: as like just overall, Yeah, yeah, I mean we've all week,

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Speaker 1: I've talked about the dynamic between Coach Belichick and Tom Brady.

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Speaker 1: We haven't really even talked about the game. But I think,

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Speaker 1: excuse me, I think it's going to come down to

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Speaker 1: the Patriots defensively. You know, obviously couldn't pressure making Tom

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Speaker 1: uncomfortable inside the pocket and being very physical at the

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Speaker 1: line of scrimmage with the wide receivers in the tight ends.

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Speaker 1: I think, you know, if you think about Coach Belichick

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Speaker 1: for twenty years, he's been sitting back and watching Tom

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Speaker 1: Brady eat up zone defenses for twenty years, you know,

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Speaker 1: And I think that'll be the one of the craziest

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Speaker 1: defensive plans to go out there and just solely sit

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Speaker 1: back in his own coverage. I think you got to

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Speaker 1: play aggressive. I think you gotta get physical and you

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Speaker 1: got to challenge these guys. Take away that short passing

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Speaker 1: game that forced Tom Brady to beat you down the field. Okay,

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Speaker 1: do the Patriots have the personnel to do what you're suggesting? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: they have the personnel to do it. They have a

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Speaker 1: lot of veteran players, guys and the secondary guys up front.

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Speaker 1: This is a veteran laden defense. And we saw what

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Speaker 1: they did against a rookie quarterback, Zach Wilson. But this

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Speaker 1: is a totally different guy in Tom Brady. But pressure

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Speaker 1: is the key. You get pressure up front, and I

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Speaker 1: anticipate some five man pressures, but the pressure is key,

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Speaker 1: and Bill Belichick knows that. Then can you throw it?

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Speaker 1: Can Belichick throw something at Tom that Tom would not

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Speaker 1: be prepared for or had not seen before? Absolutely, and

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Speaker 1: Tom's seen everything. But you still have to understand when

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Speaker 1: Tom comes to the line of scrimmage, he doesn't know

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Speaker 1: what the defense going to do. He doesn't know if

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Speaker 1: the Belichick's going to bring two corners, if he's gonna

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Speaker 1: bring two inside linebackers. Yeah, he's seen a lot. But

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Speaker 1: at the same time, you still have to process all

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Speaker 1: that information as a quarterback. And the Patriots do a

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Speaker 1: great job of disguise and moving around showing that you know,

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Speaker 1: maybe the middle linebacker blitz oh, maybe the nickel blitzes.

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Speaker 1: So they do a good job of disguising what they do.

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Speaker 1: And you better believe Coach Belichick, He's gonna come after Brady.

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Speaker 1: Do you think Bill Belichick cares about all of this drama?

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Speaker 1: Can he treat this is just another game? He always

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Speaker 1: has I mean when we won the Super Bowl, when

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Speaker 1: we were at twelve and oh and thirteen and oh

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Speaker 1: and fourteen and oh. He is a master at making

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Speaker 1: you focus one day at a time, one game at

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Speaker 1: a time. And you know, nobody is better suited for

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Speaker 1: this situation in Coach Belichick and what he would tell

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Speaker 1: those guys on Monday. The first thing he would walk

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Speaker 1: in in the meeting room Dan and say, the circuses

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Speaker 1: in town. You know, he said, guys, don't answer any

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Speaker 1: questions for anyone else. We're trying to win a football game.

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Speaker 1: All the other Brady stuff. You're going to hear about

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Speaker 1: that all. But at the end of the day, answer

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Speaker 1: for yourself and take care of your business, to do

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Speaker 1: your job. That's what he addresses the team. So now

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Speaker 1: the team has already programmed during the week to stay

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Speaker 1: solely focused on the game and not all the bs

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Speaker 1: that comes with it. But Tom coming back with all

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Speaker 1: the emotion of those fans and he's beloved there. They

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Speaker 1: don't begrudge him that he left New England. How do

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Speaker 1: you think Tom processes something like this because it's personal

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Speaker 1: for him as opposed to coach might be able to

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Speaker 1: separate this and just say, let's I got a football game.

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Speaker 1: Now Tom's a pro and all week he's given nothing

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Speaker 1: but props. And you know, I mean, he just talked

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Speaker 1: about how much you respect Coach Belichick, how much Belichick

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Speaker 1: was a mentor for him. So I don't think it's

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Speaker 1: gonna be like super hard for him to separate. I

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Speaker 1: think he's done a good job all week. As he

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Speaker 1: gets to the game and gets closer to the game,

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Speaker 1: you don't have that normal anxiety and the anxiousness that

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Speaker 1: you have before you play a game. But at the

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Speaker 1: end of the day, Tom Tom is a goon. Time

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Speaker 1: is a thug. He wants to rip the Patriot's face

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Speaker 1: just he's one of those guys. He wants to win.

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Speaker 1: If he can win by three to four or five touchdowns,

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Speaker 1: that's exactly what he's going to do. How would you

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Speaker 1: go against Brady if you, let's say you're playing in

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Speaker 1: that Patriot secondary, what would you be trying to do?

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Speaker 1: Or if you were advised if coach Belichick reached out

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Speaker 1: and said, Rodney, come on in and talk to the DBS,

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Speaker 1: what would you tell them? I'll tell him. You gotta

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Speaker 1: be you gotta be aggressive, like you know. One thing

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Speaker 1: about Tim is you can't go with his first look.

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Speaker 1: When he's looking over here and he's dropping back five

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Speaker 1: to seven yards, you can't go over there. You have

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Speaker 1: to stay disciplined in your area, in your zone and

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Speaker 1: make sure you take care of your business because that

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Speaker 1: first look is just to get you to move, and

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Speaker 1: he's always coming back this other way and and just

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Speaker 1: you know, stay patient. He's gonna make some great plays.

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Speaker 1: You know, stay patient, continue to compete and fight, and

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Speaker 1: that's all you can do. How good is that Tampa offense?

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Speaker 1: In your opinion? I think when Antonio Brown back, it

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Speaker 1: just gives time that level of confidence Godwin Mike Evans.

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Speaker 1: healthy grunt. Gronk is kind of that X factor. He's

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Speaker 1: not gonna put up big numbers, but he's still a

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Speaker 1: pain in the butt in the red zone, straight down

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Speaker 1: those key third down conversions. So Gronk is still a problem,

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Speaker 1: even though he's not one hundred percent. What do you

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Speaker 1: make of Mac Jones so far? He's a young man

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Speaker 1: that he has what you want. Mentally, I think he has.

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Speaker 1: I think he's going to be a really good young player.

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Speaker 1: He's starting to really process information. And he said in himself,

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Speaker 1: being patient going through his reads. But also believe that

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Speaker 1: Josh McDaniels has to do a better job of, you know,

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Speaker 1: allowing him to throw the ball down the field, taking

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Speaker 1: shots down the field. One thing about Tampa Bay's defense,

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Speaker 1: they struggle in the back end, the deep part of

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Speaker 1: if I'm coaching Josh mcnae, it was take some shots

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Speaker 1: defenses are starting to blitz mac Jones and they're starting

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Speaker 1: like the Saints did. And if he can't prove that

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Speaker 1: So if he can handle the blitz, that's going to

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Speaker 1: be the key for the Patriots, because Todd's gonna show

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Speaker 1: him ten fifteen different looks. He's Rodney Harrison NBC Football

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Speaker 1: Night in America analyst and won two Super Bowls with

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Speaker 1: the Patriots. You were there when Randy Moss was there, right, sir?

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Speaker 1: Is there a better wide receiver than Randy Moss in

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Speaker 1: the history of the game. One guy that I've gone

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Speaker 1: against consistently, and I played with Randy, and Randy was incredible,

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Speaker 1: But one guy is just Jerry Rice and it wasn't

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Speaker 1: and he was a threat and he caught everything, and

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Speaker 1: his routes were immaculum, and he worked his butt off

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Speaker 1: every single route. So if there's a guy that I

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Speaker 1: Randy Moss. Basically we were not giving up the big play.

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Speaker 1: But Jerry Rice is one of those guys. He's a grinder.

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Speaker 1: royal pain in the butt. I saw him last week

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Speaker 1: when I was in San Francisco. He still looks ready.

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Speaker 1: But I would have to say, Jerry Rice and you

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Speaker 1: he was with the Raiders. Well, I faced him also

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Speaker 1: when he was with the forty nine Ers because when

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Speaker 1: I played with the Chargers, we used to always have

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Speaker 1: that inner squad scrimmage, so I got a chance to

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Speaker 1: terall Owens is right there. Why does to not get

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Speaker 1: the credit maybe that he deserved or feels like I

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Speaker 1: guess personality demeanor, But as far as when he got

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Speaker 1: on the football field. Can you argue with what he did,

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Speaker 1: how he produced, You can't. And it was an absolute shame.

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Speaker 1: And t I we haven't you know, we've had some

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Speaker 1: an absolute stud. Just the threat of terreil Oins caused.

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Speaker 1: What the pressure that he puts on a defense and

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Speaker 1: the things that he could do. Yeah, it was personality.

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Speaker 1: voters didn't appreciate the way he acted and the way

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Speaker 1: you have to go by what this man accomplished on

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Speaker 1: can't deny he was one of the greatest wide receivers ever.

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Speaker 1: I don't care what stats say. This dude was an

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Speaker 1: the way he played, played really motivated, play tough, and

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Speaker 1: what a sense of urgency. How concern would you be

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Speaker 1: if you're a Steeler fan what you've witnessed so far

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Speaker 1: with Ben Roethlisberger. No, I would be highly concerned because

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Speaker 1: offensive line. The offensive line isn't great. They can't run

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Speaker 1: You got Naji Harris, a guy that's big, fast, Lucifer

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Speaker 1: can catch the ball out of the backfield. Yet you

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Speaker 1: can't run the ball because you don't have an offensive line.

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Speaker 1: Then you have been He looks like he's ninety years old.

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Speaker 1: He looked like he's you playing quarterback. Then he can't

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Speaker 1: have Ampatrick playing quarterback for the pitch stillers. So I

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Speaker 1: am definitely concerned about the Pittsburgh Stiller is definitely. Are

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Speaker 1: you all in on Matthew Stafford and the Rams he's

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Speaker 1: talking about like going to the super Bowl and all

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Speaker 1: that stuff. I'm not all in. It's it's a month

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Speaker 1: in the season, you know, But I'm I'm I'm excited

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Speaker 1: about the RAMS. I'm excited for Matthew Stafford to go

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Speaker 1: to it, to have to stay in the program where

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Speaker 1: you've lost the majority of your career and now going

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Speaker 1: somewhere where it's a lot more positive than you got athletes,

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Speaker 1: you got a good d you got the other guys

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Speaker 1: that you could depend on, and you have hope. Ain't

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Speaker 1: nothing like that, man, I'm telling you, Matthew Stafford feels

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Speaker 1: like he's a rookie again. He loves he might play

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Speaker 1: another ten years. Let's say you're in your prime, maybe

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Speaker 1: the back end of your prime. You're like Richard Sherman,

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Speaker 1: Bill Belichick reaches out, Tom Brady reaches out. Who you're

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Speaker 1: signing with Tom Brady? Absolutely because you have a chance

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Speaker 1: Yankees raised tonight at seven, followed by the Mariners and

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Speaker 1: seen a right hand or Daryl Strawberry hit when I

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Speaker 1: think on top, you know, back in whatever it was

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Speaker 1: when he had the little Franklin the orange and blue

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Speaker 1: batting gloves that we all had to have back then.

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Speaker 1: It was awesome. But I remember him swinging. I think

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Speaker 1: it hit one up there to the right side. I've

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Speaker 1: never seen this ever, Danny, have you ever seen a

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Speaker 1: ball hit the top of that? I think McGuire did

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Speaker 1: he Yeah, I think McGuire did. Star Joel left handed,

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Speaker 1: Bonds maybe did it straw I think it's happened. That

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Speaker 1: was the fifth time it's happened. And I think I

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Speaker 1: think McGuire, whose birthday is today, I think Mac put

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Speaker 1: one out of Dodgers Stadium. Yeah, that was I was

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Speaker 1: watching it live. I just sat there. I was like

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Speaker 1: Max Munsey at first base. I sat down like that

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Speaker 1: just get on top, or that hit the bleachers and

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Speaker 1: then go on top. I mean, it was a remarkable.

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Speaker 1: If you're a left fielder, though, and pictures talk about this,

442
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Speaker 1: don't show me up. If I gave up that home run,

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Speaker 1: at least back to the wall and act like you

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Speaker 1: have a shot. I remember there was one where it

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Speaker 1: might have been Bonds. Bonds was in left field. They

446
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Speaker 1: had his hands on his hip or on his knees,

447
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Speaker 1: and he didn't move. So somebody this one, Yeah, somebody

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Speaker 1: at a bomb. He didn't even look. He didn't look

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Speaker 1: over his shoulder. He knew that he knew it was gone.

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Speaker 1: And you guys know that sound, that sound where you go,

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Speaker 1: oh my god, how far not if it is you know,

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Speaker 1: it might be, it could be. It's just like, oh

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Speaker 1: my god, I've never seen that. It was. It was

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Speaker 1: truly remarkable. I just couldn't believe it. There's a breaking ball.

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Speaker 1: I'm like, good lord, I couldn't hit a breaking ball

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Speaker 1: that far from the fungal from second base he sits there. Yeah,

457
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Speaker 1: but to handicapped this out. To answer your question, I

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Speaker 1: still believe in the Dodgers. I love their depths. I mean,

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Speaker 1: I don't care. It's hard not to believe in the Daughters.

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Speaker 1: I think the Yankees be a problem when they hit

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Speaker 1: home runs like they did last night. You know, there's

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Speaker 1: all these teams that have all this stuff red soot.

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Speaker 1: Stopped looking behind your shoulder. Just go ahead and try

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Speaker 1: to get six outs late in the game. Do your thing. Okay,

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Speaker 1: that didn't work. Yankees had to hit home runs. That's

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Speaker 1: how they win games. You did not want to face

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Speaker 1: that lineup when they're hot, because they hit three run

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Speaker 1: home runs and I don't care how many strike oouns

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Speaker 1: they have, but they get hot and it gets scary.

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Speaker 1: I do like the Dodgers beating Waynewright and the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: if you're to ask, being personally, I think the Advance.

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Speaker 1: I am a believer in the San Francisco Giants. I

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Speaker 1: think they pitch, they pitch, they play defense, and they pitch.

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Speaker 1: At the end of the day. The Houston Astros look

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Speaker 1: out for them. I think mentally they're the toughest team

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Speaker 1: out there. I think everything they've had to overcome, I

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Speaker 1: think everything they have to deal with, this team just

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Speaker 1: keeps plugging away. I think Dusty Baker does such a

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Speaker 1: great job of kind of just you know what, it's

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Speaker 1: us against the world and with a smile to an extent.

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Speaker 1: So if you were to ask me, how cool would

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Speaker 1: it be Dodgers Astros twenty seventeen World Series. Let's go yep, yep,

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Speaker 1: I'm right there with you. What should show? Hey Otani

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Speaker 1: do oh man? You know it is such an intriguing

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Speaker 1: think about this per second and he we got Rendon

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Speaker 1: at third base. If he comes back and has and

487
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Speaker 1: is who he is eighty percent of who he was

488
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Speaker 1: at Rice University, and you got Mike Trout and MVP.

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Speaker 1: You got Otani's gonna be the MVP if they could

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Speaker 1: figure out starting pitching, how to spend money, or draft

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Speaker 1: in June or whatever it is. Because the Giants it

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Speaker 1: happened quick quick. Okay, the team you might have had

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Speaker 1: four play fifth places, you might have the rod you

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Speaker 1: d him start the year. They got one hundred five

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Speaker 1: wins right now. But I think he stays. I think

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Speaker 1: they have to get smart on the staff. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know why that's so hard, because that's where the

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Speaker 1: games won. That's where the games won. We all have

499
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Speaker 1: cute salaries, and we got a billion dollars in the

500
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Speaker 1: infield with the padres, and everybody's making a bunch of money.

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Speaker 1: But at the end of the day, you've got to

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Speaker 1: tow it up every fifth day. And the Angels got

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Speaker 1: to find a way to do that. Yeah. But if

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Speaker 1: I said to Mike Trout, hey you want to go

505
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Speaker 1: someplace else, Hey, don't sign that contract. You want to

506
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Speaker 1: go someplace you have more hits, than Mike Trout does

507
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Speaker 1: in the postseason. Yeah, it's tough because it's the one

508
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Speaker 1: game that we can't take our team to the Promised Land.

509
00:25:20,359 --> 00:25:23,000
Speaker 1: Lebron could take his team to the NBA Finals, Brady

510
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Speaker 1: could obviously take his team to the super Bowl. Baseball's

511
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Speaker 1: out that way. Dan, You're gonna need somebody to step

512
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Speaker 1: up like seventeen other guys. Yeah, but would you stay

513
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Speaker 1: if you're Otani Mike? What wouldn't even reason why? I

514
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Speaker 1: mean things have changed now, so probably you have to

515
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Speaker 1: sit back and go, Okay, where's the world at now?

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Speaker 1: Take all that bologna out at the thing. The weather's

517
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Speaker 1: not bad there. It's a great place to play if

518
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Speaker 1: you're wired that way. I remember getting, you know, talking

519
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Speaker 1: to Garrett Anerson a lot. Garrett Anson, you know Kerry

520
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Speaker 1: High School. I believe, great guy. And you know they

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Speaker 1: got four reporters. They answered too, we're over here in Boston, goes,

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Speaker 1: how do you do it? We got seventy two stories going?

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Speaker 1: Did Dan Patrick take his shirt off? Over there? Is

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Speaker 1: Kevin and Shilling in a fight, is Big Poppy and

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Speaker 1: Pedro you know, So you know how it is the

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Speaker 1: East Coast, there's some pressure there. It's it's hot when

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Speaker 1: you're doing bad, and it's you're aero smith when you're

528
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Speaker 1: doing great. But if you're wired blue Skies, the rally

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Speaker 1: monkey is gonna come up. We're gonna have calling all

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Speaker 1: the angels by train. It's a great place to play,

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Speaker 1: beautiful place. Yet, but you're not winning, you get October off. Yeah,

532
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Speaker 1: but some guys would rather be rich and buy a

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Speaker 1: house for thirty million over there on the Pacific Ocean.

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Speaker 1: That's cool too. Not everybody's wired to win, That's what's funny.

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Speaker 1: That's why I say when you when you go out

536
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Speaker 1: and get three agents in the in the East Coast

537
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Speaker 1: or Boston or you better be makeup. Wise, it's not

538
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Speaker 1: the best player, but you better have some makeup to

539
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Speaker 1: compete when things aren't going great. Now you tell me,

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Speaker 1: I can you tell me every player is a winner? No?

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Speaker 1: I know that. But but but O'tani says he wants

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Speaker 1: to win. Now, maybe he is saying that. Who hasn't

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00:27:01,760 --> 00:27:04,280
Speaker 1: said that? Players told you, hey, Dan, I just want

544
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Speaker 1: to like the million, not win. And what would you say?

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00:27:07,440 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 1: How could they sign a guy that's not a winner?

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Speaker 1: What happen? Do you think? Trout wishes that he played

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Speaker 1: someplace else where he's playing in meaningful games. I do

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Speaker 1: because I know he's a Jersey boy. So when you

549
00:27:20,200 --> 00:27:22,880
Speaker 1: look up, everybody misses his third and fourth at bat

550
00:27:22,880 --> 00:27:26,199
Speaker 1: on the East Coast, that articles already written, right, so

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00:27:26,240 --> 00:27:28,479
Speaker 1: they see two or three at bats and then I'll go,

552
00:27:28,680 --> 00:27:33,320
Speaker 1: but we're in bad Yeah, I know, I know. Spinks. Uh,

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Speaker 1: Mike Piazza hit one out of Dodger Stadium? Did he

554
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Speaker 1: really from righty? Is he the only other right hander?

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Speaker 1: Besides we're saying McGuire, I got McGuire and Piazza, and

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Speaker 1: I think Willie Stargell did it twice? Is that? I mean?

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Speaker 1: It's truly I hit an app I'll tell my kids

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Speaker 1: last night, I hit an absolute bomb in my own

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Speaker 1: world off chan Hoole Park, and I think it free

560
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Speaker 1: hop that back blue wall in the bullpen. It was

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Speaker 1: probably three. I felt like I left the stadium where

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Speaker 1: he hit that ball last night? Doesn't make sense, Daddy,

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Speaker 1: I know, I know. It's it's he's a talent, by

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Speaker 1: the way, who's winning nationally? GIMVP Wow? I mean, did

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper make a nice run? Did he make a

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Speaker 1: nice run? But I mean that's that's that's a tough one.

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Speaker 1: They're both not going to postseason. Oh you like Tattis Yeah? Yeah, yeah.

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Speaker 1: Who do you like? Probably Bryce Harper? Yeah, but I

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Speaker 1: think I saw more Bryce Harper than Tatis. I. I

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Speaker 1: like to see games. I like to see what happens

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Speaker 1: in a game, not just a highlight. Uh. I give

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Speaker 1: Bryce Harper credit because I haven't always been on the bandwagon.

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Speaker 1: I thought there was more hype there. And here's another thing.

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Speaker 1: When people talk about Mike trout Boy's gonna be one

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Speaker 1: of the great players of all time, I said he

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Speaker 1: should aspire to be Miguel Cabrera. Let's start there, because

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Speaker 1: Miggie has incredible stats. He did win MVP. You know,

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Speaker 1: five hundred home runs. He's gonna have three thousand here.

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Speaker 1: I mean, that's that's where Mike's next step should be,

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Speaker 1: not one of the great players of all time? Is

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Speaker 1: he going to be as good as Miguel Cabrera when

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Speaker 1: it's all said and done. And I know that sounds

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Speaker 1: crazy for people to think, but Miguel Cabrera has had

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Speaker 1: an unbelievable underrated career in my opinion, I mean, you

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Speaker 1: could put him Manny in Albert Poolholts in their prime.

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Speaker 1: Give me the best five six years span, who this

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Speaker 1: is the best right handed hitter in that in that

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Speaker 1: generation in your opinion when they're hot. Manny was unbelievable.

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Speaker 1: But you know, Manny was artificially inflated, so I got

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Speaker 1: to factor that in. Um, right, I gotta have artificial

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Speaker 1: inflation there. Um, you can't comment, right, I can't go Okay.

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Speaker 1: I mean, I just love eating sour patch kids and

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Speaker 1: coke bottles. Um. But probably Manny. I think Manny had

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Speaker 1: those moments where you're going, how did he hit that?

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Speaker 1: And you can't why you can't have probably the prettiest

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Speaker 1: right handed swing. Most lefties have Peter pretty swings. They

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Speaker 1: can kind of finish and do the old griffy. Manny

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Speaker 1: had that from the right side. That just had that

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Speaker 1: where he can release that bat. I'm like, how did

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Speaker 1: you hit that ball four forty to right center with

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Speaker 1: one hand? He was pretty. But if I said you

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Speaker 1: could have Big Poppy or Manny up in the clutch

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Speaker 1: game on the line hands, damn Poppy, I've never seen

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Speaker 1: any like it in my life. Saw the three straight years.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you need a two run home run, it was there.

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Speaker 1: Anytime you need a two run base hit, it was there.

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Speaker 1: I mean they're both special, poppy. I mean he had

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Speaker 1: like five hundred in the World Series in twenty thirteen.

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Speaker 1: I mean he didn't eating get out. I don't think yeah,

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Speaker 1: uh well he had to if he've only bat at

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Speaker 1: five hundred, If he doesn't get out, maybe it's maybe great.

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Speaker 1: Great talk to you, and hopefully we'll catch up here

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Speaker 1: soon again. Thank you, buddy, You look great, Danny. Fox

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Speaker 1: but it's trying to get inside how Bill Belichick and

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Speaker 1: Tom Brady work on a day to day basis and

634
00:32:18,320 --> 00:32:21,680
Speaker 1: try to diagnose and understand the key ingredients that have

635
00:32:21,800 --> 00:32:25,360
Speaker 1: led to their greatness and this unprecedented run that they

636
00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,760
Speaker 1: had together, and then also look at some of the

637
00:32:27,760 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: costs of that greatness. I think that those were the

638
00:32:29,600 --> 00:32:32,239
Speaker 1: things that I was trying to pursue as diligently as

639
00:32:32,240 --> 00:32:36,600
Speaker 1: I possibly could easier to get information on Brady or Belichick.

640
00:32:39,640 --> 00:32:43,520
Speaker 1: That's a great question. I'd say it's a it's about

641
00:32:43,560 --> 00:32:46,160
Speaker 1: the same. I mean, I wouldn't say it's easy, but

642
00:32:46,520 --> 00:32:48,760
Speaker 1: you know, again, I've been doing this for twenty years now.

643
00:32:48,760 --> 00:32:51,760
Speaker 1: I've written many stories about Tom Brady. I've been at

644
00:32:51,760 --> 00:32:53,720
Speaker 1: his house, I've been at a Super Bowl party. I've

645
00:32:53,720 --> 00:32:56,280
Speaker 1: had many conversations with Bill Belichick. I know the people

646
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,560
Speaker 1: around them, I know the coaches on the staff, and

647
00:32:58,600 --> 00:33:00,880
Speaker 1: so I just felt like that I could pursue this

648
00:33:00,920 --> 00:33:03,960
Speaker 1: project with a lot of confidence and hopefully tell a

649
00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,800
Speaker 1: story that fans like, what's the one that you the

650
00:33:07,920 --> 00:33:12,840
Speaker 1: story that you found out more information than previously believed

651
00:33:13,040 --> 00:33:15,760
Speaker 1: or reported. Oh man, I mean there's a lot of

652
00:33:15,760 --> 00:33:19,000
Speaker 1: those things. You know, you can go back to, you know,

653
00:33:19,080 --> 00:33:21,800
Speaker 1: Tom Brady's days at Michigan and the night that he

654
00:33:21,840 --> 00:33:24,400
Speaker 1: was going to leave, and what his therapist and counselor

655
00:33:24,480 --> 00:33:28,120
Speaker 1: told him. You know, the tension of twenty seventeen, which

656
00:33:28,120 --> 00:33:30,680
Speaker 1: I obviously wrote a lot about the time, and you know,

657
00:33:30,760 --> 00:33:33,440
Speaker 1: just learning a little bit more about you know where

658
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,840
Speaker 1: that came from, how bad things got. You know, how

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Speaker 1: Brady said, I don't want to play for Bill anymore,

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Speaker 1: and you know how close it came to coming to

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Speaker 1: an end there. And you know, the part of the book,

662
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Speaker 1: in a weird way, that I like the best, or

663
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Speaker 1: that I kind of enjoyed the most, was the middle part,

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Speaker 1: the ten years that they didn't win a championship because

665
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Speaker 1: they were achieving at such a high level and they

666
00:33:57,120 --> 00:34:02,120
Speaker 1: were in such a cultural and you know sports plateau,

667
00:34:02,800 --> 00:34:05,840
Speaker 1: but they needed to figure out how to get the

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00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:09,760
Speaker 1: last percentage of a percentage better so that they could

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Speaker 1: you go over the hump and finally win more Super

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Speaker 1: Bowls rather than narrowly losing them to the New York Giants.

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Speaker 1: And you've said that you didn't interview Brady or Belichick

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Speaker 1: for this book, but you have interviewed them down through

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Speaker 1: the years. I give you one question for both of them.

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Speaker 1: Let me start with Belichick. The one question you would

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Speaker 1: ask for this book would have been one I think

676
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:35,480
Speaker 1: I would have asked, if it's all worth it. I

677
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:39,160
Speaker 1: think that he's become the greatest coach in modern football history,

678
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Speaker 1: and the casualty of his greatness has been a lot

679
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Speaker 1: of relationships. You know, you can talk about his relationship

680
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Speaker 1: with Eric Vanini and how that fell apart when Eric

681
00:34:48,560 --> 00:34:50,600
Speaker 1: left in I detail a near fistfight at the league

682
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Speaker 1: meetings between the two of them. And there's a lot

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Speaker 1: of players over the years who obviously have come out

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Speaker 1: of New England with a really bad taste in their mouth,

685
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Speaker 1: and then obviously there's Brady. And I think that while

686
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Speaker 1: there's a lot of love between Brady and Belichick, I

687
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Speaker 1: think that there's a lot of acrimony, especially on the

688
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Speaker 1: Brady side, the way that the past couple of years,

689
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Speaker 1: you know, unfolded, and you know, that's what I would

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Speaker 1: be curious how he would answer, is, you know, if

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Speaker 1: those relationships are some of the costs of his greatness,

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Speaker 1: how does he feel about it? And was it all

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Speaker 1: worth it? What would be the question you would ask Brady.

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Speaker 1: You know, I've thought about this a lot, but I

695
00:35:27,560 --> 00:35:29,480
Speaker 1: actually did ask it to him a couple of years ago,

696
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Speaker 1: and I asked him how long he wanted to live,

697
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Speaker 1: because if you look at the way that he's going

698
00:35:34,160 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 1: to be evolved in celebrity now he's become this this

699
00:35:38,280 --> 00:35:41,359
Speaker 1: kind of figure that he's almost a member of, like

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Speaker 1: the global elite, for whom, you know, human longevity is

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Speaker 1: human destiny. And so I did ask him at one point,

702
00:35:48,200 --> 00:35:50,360
Speaker 1: like how long do you want to live? And he

703
00:35:50,400 --> 00:35:55,200
Speaker 1: had a really thoughtful and and you know, reasonable answer.

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Speaker 1: He said, you know, it's not necessarily about how long

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Speaker 1: I want to live, even though he wrote an hire

706
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Speaker 1: book about reversing the aging process. In his words, it

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Speaker 1: was the quality of life and the fact that he

708
00:36:04,680 --> 00:36:07,080
Speaker 1: wanted to go skiing and surf and do these things

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Speaker 1: after football, and he was trying to have it all

710
00:36:09,800 --> 00:36:11,279
Speaker 1: and we'll see if he can have it all. Yeah.

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Speaker 1: But if I ask you, how long do you want

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Speaker 1: to live? Seth, what are you gonna say? Well, I

713
00:36:16,800 --> 00:36:21,960
Speaker 1: didn't write an entire book about reversing it, I know,

714
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Speaker 1: but if I'm Tom, it's like, I want quality of life.

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00:36:25,040 --> 00:36:29,399
Speaker 1: However long I live, I want quality of life. I've

716
00:36:29,440 --> 00:36:32,239
Speaker 1: always been fascinated with a couple of stories. Was there

717
00:36:32,280 --> 00:36:36,200
Speaker 1: a power struggle on keeping Jimmy Garoppolo? Keeping Tom? Who

718
00:36:36,239 --> 00:36:39,600
Speaker 1: had the finals? Say did Brady go to Craft and

719
00:36:39,640 --> 00:36:43,520
Speaker 1: say it's me or him? Belichick hand delivered Jimmy Garoppolo

720
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Speaker 1: to Kyle Shanahan, making sure he didn't go to the

721
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Speaker 1: Cleveland Browns. Help me understand all of that? Illuminate me

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00:36:49,719 --> 00:36:52,959
Speaker 1: on you know, what is fact? What's fiction? It takes

723
00:36:52,960 --> 00:36:55,160
Speaker 1: a little bit of time, but I wrote about this

724
00:36:55,200 --> 00:36:56,960
Speaker 1: a lot at the time. Look after they beat the

725
00:36:56,960 --> 00:36:59,360
Speaker 1: Falcons and they had won their fifth Super Bowl, the

726
00:36:59,440 --> 00:37:01,680
Speaker 1: dynamics in the building just changed. And I think that,

727
00:37:02,200 --> 00:37:04,680
Speaker 1: you know, Tom Brady started to venture into other things,

728
00:37:04,760 --> 00:37:07,040
Speaker 1: his TV twelve business, He put up the book, he

729
00:37:07,080 --> 00:37:09,840
Speaker 1: did time versus time. He wanted to be treated a

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00:37:09,880 --> 00:37:13,200
Speaker 1: little bit differently. And in the middle of it all,

731
00:37:13,239 --> 00:37:15,640
Speaker 1: you had Alex Guerrero in this business that they were

732
00:37:15,680 --> 00:37:18,120
Speaker 1: both trying to build together, and the fact that the

733
00:37:18,160 --> 00:37:20,919
Speaker 1: things that they were saying were often at odds with

734
00:37:21,080 --> 00:37:23,319
Speaker 1: what the Patriots doctors were saying, and so it was

735
00:37:23,360 --> 00:37:27,600
Speaker 1: becoming this divisive force in the locker room. Belichick curtailed

736
00:37:27,640 --> 00:37:30,160
Speaker 1: his access. I mean, think about the Tampa Bay Buccaneers

737
00:37:30,239 --> 00:37:32,319
Speaker 1: right now. They give Alex Guerrero an office and they

738
00:37:32,320 --> 00:37:35,240
Speaker 1: gave him a Super Bowl ring. Bill curtailed his access

739
00:37:35,280 --> 00:37:37,759
Speaker 1: back then. And in the middle of it all, you

740
00:37:37,800 --> 00:37:41,440
Speaker 1: had Jimmy Garoppolo and the fact that Belichick has a

741
00:37:41,440 --> 00:37:43,919
Speaker 1: lot of pride and he always wanted to walk away

742
00:37:43,920 --> 00:37:46,600
Speaker 1: from the Patriots with them set up long term at quarterback,

743
00:37:46,600 --> 00:37:49,840
Speaker 1: and he was deeply invested in Jimmy. At one point

744
00:37:49,880 --> 00:37:52,360
Speaker 1: when Jimmy played, he said, you know, the transition between

745
00:37:52,400 --> 00:37:57,360
Speaker 1: Brady and Jimmy is really seamless, seamless on offense, and

746
00:37:58,400 --> 00:38:00,560
Speaker 1: things were there was just a lot of things coming

747
00:38:00,560 --> 00:38:02,680
Speaker 1: to a head, and so finally Jimmy got shipped. It

748
00:38:02,719 --> 00:38:07,319
Speaker 1: was obvious that Craft's loyalties were to Brady, and then

749
00:38:07,360 --> 00:38:10,640
Speaker 1: that offseason they lose to the Philadelphia Eagles and Brady

750
00:38:10,680 --> 00:38:14,239
Speaker 1: skips the entire offseason program, and so much reporting has

751
00:38:14,280 --> 00:38:17,120
Speaker 1: come out about how he really didn't know if he

752
00:38:17,160 --> 00:38:19,239
Speaker 1: wanted to return to the team and in fact kind

753
00:38:19,239 --> 00:38:22,719
Speaker 1: of wanted to be released. Okay, but did he go

754
00:38:22,800 --> 00:38:27,279
Speaker 1: to Craft and say it's either me or Garoppolo? Well

755
00:38:28,000 --> 00:38:31,359
Speaker 1: that I don't know, but Kraft Tom Brady didn't get

756
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 1: Jimmy Garoppolo traded. I think that it was so obvious

757
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,719
Speaker 1: that Kraft had stated publicly and privately that Brady had

758
00:38:36,719 --> 00:38:38,560
Speaker 1: earned the right to walk away in his own terms.

759
00:38:38,800 --> 00:38:42,400
Speaker 1: And even if Bill was invested in Jimmy, Tom was

760
00:38:42,480 --> 00:38:45,080
Speaker 1: making it very hard for him to get on the field.

761
00:38:45,400 --> 00:38:47,840
Speaker 1: They shared an agent, Don Ye. There was just a

762
00:38:47,880 --> 00:38:49,600
Speaker 1: lot of things that were closing in and Bill was

763
00:38:49,640 --> 00:38:51,920
Speaker 1: kind of backed into a corner. And so yes, he

764
00:38:51,960 --> 00:38:54,840
Speaker 1: calls up Kyle Shanahan. I think it was on Halloween morning,

765
00:38:55,000 --> 00:38:58,360
Speaker 1: maybe with the night the day before, and offers Jimmy's

766
00:38:58,760 --> 00:39:02,080
Speaker 1: straight up for a second round pick. Belichick has since

767
00:39:02,560 --> 00:39:05,400
Speaker 1: come out and said when he's the book has been

768
00:39:05,440 --> 00:39:10,720
Speaker 1: mentioned that you know, second third, fourth hand news, it

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00:39:10,760 --> 00:39:15,440
Speaker 1: feels like information maybe coming from Brady's side more than

770
00:39:15,520 --> 00:39:19,000
Speaker 1: Belichick's side. That probably doesn't take long to go through

771
00:39:19,000 --> 00:39:22,120
Speaker 1: the rolodecks of Belichick and who he trust and who

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00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:25,200
Speaker 1: would have information here. Is that a fair assessment on

773
00:39:25,239 --> 00:39:28,319
Speaker 1: how I'm reading who's saying what to whom and when

774
00:39:28,360 --> 00:39:31,799
Speaker 1: and why. It's a fair assessment of well, I think

775
00:39:31,840 --> 00:39:34,200
Speaker 1: what came out of the news story, but most of

776
00:39:34,320 --> 00:39:38,120
Speaker 1: the book is not that way. I mean, ninety five

777
00:39:38,200 --> 00:39:39,560
Speaker 1: percent of the people that I talked to you for

778
00:39:39,600 --> 00:39:41,720
Speaker 1: the book are on the record and their primary sources,

779
00:39:41,719 --> 00:39:44,440
Speaker 1: and the few that I needed to grant anonymity to

780
00:39:44,719 --> 00:39:48,839
Speaker 1: are the people who had first hand knowledge of key

781
00:39:48,920 --> 00:39:53,440
Speaker 1: meetings or dialogue that was said. And so I think

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00:39:53,440 --> 00:39:55,880
Speaker 1: with the newser it definitely some of the news that

783
00:39:55,920 --> 00:39:59,080
Speaker 1: came out definitely came out that way. But you know,

784
00:39:59,320 --> 00:40:02,880
Speaker 1: specifically with the main anecdote from the news story about

785
00:40:02,880 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: Tom Brady and at Robert Craft's house and telling Robert

786
00:40:07,200 --> 00:40:09,480
Speaker 1: Craft he's not going to resign with the team, he

787
00:40:09,560 --> 00:40:12,040
Speaker 1: wanted to go tell Bill in person, and Bill was unavailable,

788
00:40:12,480 --> 00:40:15,920
Speaker 1: and you know, he told a confidant, a very close friend,

789
00:40:16,120 --> 00:40:18,400
Speaker 1: he thought that was telling of the state of their relationship.

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00:40:18,719 --> 00:40:21,440
Speaker 1: You know, Brady didn't deny that yesterday. I mean, Tom

791
00:40:21,520 --> 00:40:23,760
Speaker 1: is forty four years old, and he's good. He figured

792
00:40:23,800 --> 00:40:25,520
Speaker 1: out a way to thread that needle where he didn't

793
00:40:25,520 --> 00:40:28,360
Speaker 1: deny it, and he didn't really give anything away either.

794
00:40:28,800 --> 00:40:32,239
Speaker 1: And you know, like I said, I did the best

795
00:40:32,239 --> 00:40:36,040
Speaker 1: I could to try to show this relationship, show their greatness,

796
00:40:36,040 --> 00:40:38,359
Speaker 1: and show the costs of their greatness. We're talking to

797
00:40:38,640 --> 00:40:42,360
Speaker 1: Seth Wickersham, ESPN, Senior writer author. The book is available

798
00:40:42,480 --> 00:40:45,160
Speaker 1: nationally on Tuesday. It's Better to be Feared than New

799
00:40:45,160 --> 00:40:48,520
Speaker 1: England Patriots, Dynasty and the Pursuit of Greatness. I've mentioned

800
00:40:48,560 --> 00:40:50,440
Speaker 1: this story to my audience a couple of times when

801
00:40:50,440 --> 00:40:53,800
Speaker 1: I interviewed Brady prior to the Super Bowl with the Eagles,

802
00:40:54,520 --> 00:40:58,560
Speaker 1: and towards the end, I said, do you think you

803
00:40:58,680 --> 00:41:02,760
Speaker 1: and Bill will ever get together? And reminisce and Brady,

804
00:41:03,040 --> 00:41:08,160
Speaker 1: in a moment of truth, said no, like he he

805
00:41:08,160 --> 00:41:11,680
Speaker 1: couldn't believe I was asking that, almost like in like, no,

806
00:41:11,920 --> 00:41:15,000
Speaker 1: are you kidding me? That's that's not what our relation Now.

807
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,240
Speaker 1: He didn't say that's not what our relationship was about,

808
00:41:17,480 --> 00:41:19,960
Speaker 1: but that's really how I read it. He's like, no,

809
00:41:20,960 --> 00:41:23,200
Speaker 1: and I don't know if he caught himself where he

810
00:41:23,440 --> 00:41:25,680
Speaker 1: gave me what I thought was an honest answer at

811
00:41:25,680 --> 00:41:28,160
Speaker 1: the time. Instead of saying, well, I hope so, and

812
00:41:28,600 --> 00:41:30,719
Speaker 1: you know we will open up the scrap book and

813
00:41:30,800 --> 00:41:32,400
Speaker 1: you know we have so many great memory he just

814
00:41:32,440 --> 00:41:36,839
Speaker 1: went no. Would you say that sums up the relationship

815
00:41:36,880 --> 00:41:39,239
Speaker 1: between these two that they're not taking a trip down

816
00:41:39,239 --> 00:41:42,759
Speaker 1: memory lane anytime soon? Not anytime soon. But I still

817
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,520
Speaker 1: think that even if they get on each other's nerves

818
00:41:45,880 --> 00:41:48,080
Speaker 1: and there's some macrimony I think, especially on the Brady

819
00:41:48,120 --> 00:41:50,280
Speaker 1: side right now over how things ended in New England

820
00:41:50,320 --> 00:41:52,960
Speaker 1: the past few years, but I think that there's a

821
00:41:53,000 --> 00:41:55,400
Speaker 1: love there and I think that that's really important. And

822
00:41:55,400 --> 00:41:58,279
Speaker 1: and you know, as different as they are from a

823
00:41:58,320 --> 00:42:01,880
Speaker 1: personality standpoint, they have a key traits that are almost

824
00:42:01,920 --> 00:42:04,759
Speaker 1: completely aligned. And I think that one of them they

825
00:42:04,800 --> 00:42:07,640
Speaker 1: are steadfast optimists. They kind of come in it from

826
00:42:07,680 --> 00:42:12,080
Speaker 1: a different angle. But nobody in NFL history has believed

827
00:42:12,120 --> 00:42:14,680
Speaker 1: in the power and the possibilities of the next play

828
00:42:14,840 --> 00:42:17,040
Speaker 1: like these guys. I mean, no matter what has happened,

829
00:42:17,080 --> 00:42:19,640
Speaker 1: they're able to focus on what's in front of them,

830
00:42:20,000 --> 00:42:22,960
Speaker 1: and you see a play out on these international stages

831
00:42:23,000 --> 00:42:25,879
Speaker 1: where Brady rallies the team from twenty eight to three

832
00:42:25,960 --> 00:42:29,400
Speaker 1: down and a year before another brilliant goal line stand

833
00:42:29,400 --> 00:42:32,880
Speaker 1: by a Belichick defense. I mean, nobody like these two guys.

834
00:42:33,360 --> 00:42:37,400
Speaker 1: They refuse to concede an inch to anybody else's idea

835
00:42:37,440 --> 00:42:40,680
Speaker 1: of the inevitable. I wonder if they get blown out

836
00:42:41,480 --> 00:42:46,319
Speaker 1: forty two to ten by the Falcons, does Bill move

837
00:42:46,400 --> 00:42:52,440
Speaker 1: on from Brady sooner? Yeah, that's a great question. I

838
00:42:52,480 --> 00:42:55,239
Speaker 1: think there's a strong likelihood. One of the things I

839
00:42:55,520 --> 00:42:58,239
Speaker 1: get into in the book is I think that one

840
00:42:58,239 --> 00:43:00,840
Speaker 1: of the things that reignited their dynasty was in the

841
00:43:00,880 --> 00:43:03,880
Speaker 1: Baltimore Divisional playoff game in twenty fifteen, when they were

842
00:43:03,920 --> 00:43:06,800
Speaker 1: down fourteen points in the third quarter and they unveiled

843
00:43:06,840 --> 00:43:10,560
Speaker 1: that the Baltimore and the Ravens funky formations that completely

844
00:43:10,600 --> 00:43:12,759
Speaker 1: baffled the Ravens and it got New England back in

845
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Speaker 1: this game. And if they had lost that game, I

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Speaker 1: don't know what would have happened. I mean, Jimmy Garoppolo

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00:43:18,960 --> 00:43:21,400
Speaker 1: had just finished his rookie season. Would they have moved

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00:43:21,440 --> 00:43:25,080
Speaker 1: on from Brady right then? But instead they unveil this

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00:43:25,160 --> 00:43:29,080
Speaker 1: classic formation that that completely befuddled the Ravens got them

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00:43:29,120 --> 00:43:32,040
Speaker 1: back in the game, and it really reignited the entire

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00:43:32,120 --> 00:43:34,920
Speaker 1: dynasty and led to those three more Super Bowls. You

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00:43:34,960 --> 00:43:38,120
Speaker 1: want to get in on the pregame bet Is there

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Speaker 1: a hug? Is there a handshake? Is there any contact

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00:43:42,640 --> 00:43:46,440
Speaker 1: whatsoever between Brady and Belichick? So I would bet, and

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00:43:46,520 --> 00:43:48,040
Speaker 1: I'm not a better but I would bet that there

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00:43:48,040 --> 00:43:50,319
Speaker 1: will be a pregame hug because there'll be too many

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00:43:50,600 --> 00:43:53,920
Speaker 1: cameras after the game. And I think they'll both do

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00:43:54,000 --> 00:43:55,960
Speaker 1: it because they know that it's in their best interest

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00:43:56,040 --> 00:43:58,680
Speaker 1: to do it. And I often wonder, you know, look,

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00:43:58,719 --> 00:44:00,400
Speaker 1: I mean, Brady is going to be so focus and

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00:44:00,520 --> 00:44:03,279
Speaker 1: so keyed up for this game. Whether they will try

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00:44:03,280 --> 00:44:05,520
Speaker 1: to show him so much love at that stadium, like

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00:44:05,520 --> 00:44:08,040
Speaker 1: a video tribute whatever to kind of throw him off. Oh,

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Speaker 1: I would absolutely, Seth would I would make him cry.

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Speaker 1: The Colts did it with Peyton Manning when he came

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00:44:14,440 --> 00:44:17,080
Speaker 1: back as a Denver Bronco. They did this big tribute

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00:44:17,080 --> 00:44:19,840
Speaker 1: to him and he started crying during pregame warm months,

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Speaker 1: and so like, I absolutely think that's the best way

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Speaker 1: to try to throw Brady off. Great to talk to you, Seth,

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Speaker 1: Congrats on the book. And good luck with the sales.

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Speaker 1: Thanks Man, I'll talk to you