1 00:00:00,840 --> 00:00:03,360 Speaker 1: Can't I am six forty you're listening to the John 2 00:00:03,440 --> 00:00:07,200 Speaker 1: Cobelt podcast on the iHeartRadio app run from one to 3 00:00:07,240 --> 00:00:10,039 Speaker 1: four at four o'clock John Cobelt Show on demand on 4 00:00:10,080 --> 00:00:12,520 Speaker 1: the iHeart app, so you could listen to what you missed. 5 00:00:14,240 --> 00:00:18,599 Speaker 1: Prop forty seven. We can get this thing greatly revised. 6 00:00:19,200 --> 00:00:22,840 Speaker 1: There is a petition that you can sign on Thursday, 7 00:00:22,840 --> 00:00:26,560 Speaker 1: February twenty second at the Honda Center in Anaheim, and 8 00:00:28,280 --> 00:00:30,760 Speaker 1: we are going to be broadcasting live from one to four, 9 00:00:30,880 --> 00:00:32,479 Speaker 1: taking the show on the road for the first time 10 00:00:32,520 --> 00:00:35,120 Speaker 1: in a long time. You can show up any time 11 00:00:35,120 --> 00:00:38,560 Speaker 1: between one and six and sign the petition, and we'll 12 00:00:38,560 --> 00:00:43,560 Speaker 1: have petitions for all the nearby counties La, Orange County, 13 00:00:43,560 --> 00:00:48,120 Speaker 1: San Berdinino, Riverside, Ventur, San Diego. You want to take 14 00:00:48,120 --> 00:00:51,839 Speaker 1: the Ball Road exit and enter the Honda Center from 15 00:00:52,080 --> 00:00:56,360 Speaker 1: Ball Road. I'll explain more as time goes on, and 16 00:00:56,480 --> 00:00:59,320 Speaker 1: we're gonna be parking Lot four and we'll be talking 17 00:00:59,320 --> 00:01:03,480 Speaker 1: to you, talking to people involved in this referendum and 18 00:01:04,080 --> 00:01:06,840 Speaker 1: talking to Todd Spitzer, who's with us now. Todd Spitscer 19 00:01:06,840 --> 00:01:11,360 Speaker 1: district attorney in Orange County, who's going to be who 20 00:01:11,440 --> 00:01:13,080 Speaker 1: is part of this movement. Todd, how are you. 21 00:01:14,000 --> 00:01:14,839 Speaker 2: I'm great, John. 22 00:01:14,920 --> 00:01:17,880 Speaker 3: I'm so excited to do this event with you next Thursday. 23 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:23,119 Speaker 1: I want to explain right at the top because it's 24 00:01:23,440 --> 00:01:27,319 Speaker 1: really hard for people to get to know the details 25 00:01:28,000 --> 00:01:31,760 Speaker 1: of these sort of things, and most people, even though 26 00:01:31,800 --> 00:01:33,200 Speaker 1: you and I have talked about it on the air 27 00:01:33,240 --> 00:01:35,800 Speaker 1: a couple of times, haven't heard about this yet don't 28 00:01:35,840 --> 00:01:38,160 Speaker 1: know what it's about. And I want them to understand 29 00:01:38,280 --> 00:01:40,319 Speaker 1: why they should show up on Thursday, why it's so 30 00:01:40,360 --> 00:01:43,680 Speaker 1: important to sign this petition. So if you could go 31 00:01:43,760 --> 00:01:49,080 Speaker 1: through I know there's three basic components that address shoplifting, theft, 32 00:01:50,840 --> 00:01:53,840 Speaker 1: drug possession, and then fentanyl dealing. So if you can 33 00:01:53,880 --> 00:01:56,160 Speaker 1: get into that, yeah, I'd. 34 00:01:56,040 --> 00:01:58,880 Speaker 3: Be happy to And again, I can't thank you enough 35 00:01:58,920 --> 00:02:02,600 Speaker 3: for promoting this joining us in Orange County on the 36 00:02:02,680 --> 00:02:05,400 Speaker 3: twenty second of February from one to six pm, so 37 00:02:05,840 --> 00:02:08,160 Speaker 3: you'll be on the air from one to four and 38 00:02:08,200 --> 00:02:11,160 Speaker 3: we'll be there for a couple extra hours to get 39 00:02:11,200 --> 00:02:14,640 Speaker 3: people some people getting off work, So thank you. And 40 00:02:14,680 --> 00:02:16,200 Speaker 3: I know I just heard you say it, but get 41 00:02:16,200 --> 00:02:19,080 Speaker 3: off at Ball Road because the Honda Center is under 42 00:02:19,080 --> 00:02:21,600 Speaker 3: construction and we need you to come into a lot 43 00:02:21,639 --> 00:02:24,240 Speaker 3: for it. There's big signs when you come in off 44 00:02:24,280 --> 00:02:26,840 Speaker 3: ball road. If you come from the east side of 45 00:02:26,919 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 3: the stadium on ball that's tapped and it turns into 46 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:34,240 Speaker 3: ball roads. Okay, so let's get into the initiative. First 47 00:02:34,240 --> 00:02:37,280 Speaker 3: of all, we're all sick and tired of seeing people 48 00:02:37,320 --> 00:02:41,160 Speaker 3: who are homeless and people who are drug users, and 49 00:02:41,280 --> 00:02:44,600 Speaker 3: people who are destitute living on the street and they're 50 00:02:44,639 --> 00:02:47,760 Speaker 3: addicted to drugs. And the fact of the matter is 51 00:02:47,800 --> 00:02:51,120 Speaker 3: when Prop. Forty seven was passed, it made the possession 52 00:02:51,120 --> 00:02:54,400 Speaker 3: of drugs being a felony, or if it was your 53 00:02:54,400 --> 00:02:57,519 Speaker 3: first time being caught and using, you could get diversion. 54 00:02:57,560 --> 00:03:01,600 Speaker 3: In other words, we used to have an incentive care 55 00:03:01,840 --> 00:03:05,040 Speaker 3: and a stick. If you are addicted and use drugs 56 00:03:05,120 --> 00:03:07,880 Speaker 3: for personal use, you would have to go into treatment. 57 00:03:08,280 --> 00:03:12,760 Speaker 3: Our drug courts which are designed and taxpayers invest in 58 00:03:12,880 --> 00:03:16,480 Speaker 3: drug courts to help people with these addictions so they 59 00:03:16,520 --> 00:03:20,360 Speaker 3: don't end up on the street. Our drug court populations 60 00:03:20,600 --> 00:03:24,480 Speaker 3: have plummeted since Prop forty seven because now it's just 61 00:03:24,560 --> 00:03:29,720 Speaker 3: another misdemeanor. No one cares, nothing happens, there's no consequences. 62 00:03:29,919 --> 00:03:32,320 Speaker 3: So even if you're in that school John that you 63 00:03:32,480 --> 00:03:35,800 Speaker 3: just think we should legalize drugs and who cares. The 64 00:03:35,960 --> 00:03:38,240 Speaker 3: fact of the matter is people who are addicted to 65 00:03:38,320 --> 00:03:42,120 Speaker 3: drugs are living on the streets. They can't get control 66 00:03:42,160 --> 00:03:44,480 Speaker 3: of their lives, and we need to stop it. If 67 00:03:44,480 --> 00:03:49,240 Speaker 3: you're sick of homelessness and what's happening to our communities 68 00:03:49,480 --> 00:03:51,800 Speaker 3: because the people who are on the streets, then that 69 00:03:51,920 --> 00:03:55,760 Speaker 3: alone should be a reason for you to sign this initiative. 70 00:03:55,760 --> 00:03:57,600 Speaker 3: But what it does is it says, if you have 71 00:03:58,320 --> 00:04:02,560 Speaker 3: two prior convictions or drug possession, you have to go 72 00:04:02,640 --> 00:04:06,520 Speaker 3: into treatment. If you don't choose treatment to better yourself, 73 00:04:06,760 --> 00:04:09,240 Speaker 3: then it can go into a felony and then we 74 00:04:09,280 --> 00:04:12,240 Speaker 3: can talk to the court about serious consequences. So the 75 00:04:12,280 --> 00:04:15,840 Speaker 3: balls in your court take responsibility, help your life, get 76 00:04:15,880 --> 00:04:18,320 Speaker 3: your life back on track, and if you don't, there's 77 00:04:18,320 --> 00:04:21,640 Speaker 3: going to be consequences. So that's the drug treatment component. 78 00:04:21,920 --> 00:04:24,480 Speaker 1: Okay, we're talking to Todd Spitzer, DA of Orange County. 79 00:04:24,480 --> 00:04:26,560 Speaker 1: We're on Instagram live by the way, so you could 80 00:04:26,560 --> 00:04:29,960 Speaker 1: watch me talk to Todd or hear him on the phone. 81 00:04:30,440 --> 00:04:32,840 Speaker 1: The name of the measure is called the Homelessness Drug 82 00:04:32,839 --> 00:04:39,240 Speaker 1: Addiction Retail Theft Reduction Act. Explain the retail theft Provision 83 00:04:40,080 --> 00:04:41,479 Speaker 1: of course, what. 84 00:04:42,440 --> 00:04:45,960 Speaker 3: We're sick of homelessness, We're sick of people stealing us blind. 85 00:04:46,680 --> 00:04:49,360 Speaker 3: We're talking about twenty dollars an hour minimum wage now 86 00:04:49,360 --> 00:04:52,200 Speaker 3: in California. We have mom and pops trying to just 87 00:04:52,360 --> 00:04:57,160 Speaker 3: pay their bills. Employ people run their restaurants, run their businesses, 88 00:04:57,440 --> 00:05:00,280 Speaker 3: and people can come in and steal us blind. And 89 00:05:00,320 --> 00:05:03,120 Speaker 3: if it's and if it's under nine hundred and fifty dollars, 90 00:05:03,839 --> 00:05:06,480 Speaker 3: there's no consequence in fact, if they're caught, and they 91 00:05:06,520 --> 00:05:09,640 Speaker 3: generally are not caught. Although I will give great credit 92 00:05:10,000 --> 00:05:12,920 Speaker 3: to the California High Patrol and all the law enforcement 93 00:05:13,000 --> 00:05:15,240 Speaker 3: that's doing a rot to go after the smash and grabbers, 94 00:05:15,480 --> 00:05:18,920 Speaker 3: but generally nothing happens. They know it. They grab these 95 00:05:18,960 --> 00:05:21,720 Speaker 3: purses off the shelf, they grab these high end items. 96 00:05:22,160 --> 00:05:26,080 Speaker 3: Store personnel don't stop them. John. They don't want the liability. 97 00:05:26,120 --> 00:05:28,720 Speaker 3: They don't want to get sued for hurting somebody. Can 98 00:05:28,760 --> 00:05:31,440 Speaker 3: you believe that you can get sued in California when 99 00:05:31,440 --> 00:05:33,839 Speaker 3: somebody steals and you hurt them on the way out 100 00:05:33,839 --> 00:05:36,000 Speaker 3: the door, and then they not only stealed your stuff 101 00:05:36,080 --> 00:05:38,080 Speaker 3: or tried to steal your stuff, but then they can 102 00:05:38,240 --> 00:05:40,240 Speaker 3: get your money out of your bank account for a 103 00:05:40,279 --> 00:05:40,960 Speaker 3: lawsuit as well. 104 00:05:41,120 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: Right, and you'll probably get fired by the company you 105 00:05:43,480 --> 00:05:43,880 Speaker 1: work for. 106 00:05:44,720 --> 00:05:47,440 Speaker 3: You probably will because in most cases it's a violation 107 00:05:47,920 --> 00:05:52,799 Speaker 3: of policy to confront somebody for stealing property. Okay, Now, 108 00:05:53,040 --> 00:05:56,440 Speaker 3: in the big box stores like Target and Home Depot, 109 00:05:56,760 --> 00:05:59,360 Speaker 3: maybe the employee's like, wow, I may have some shares 110 00:05:59,400 --> 00:06:02,560 Speaker 3: in this business. I'm an hourly employee. But if you 111 00:06:02,640 --> 00:06:05,239 Speaker 3: own a jewelry store and that's how you pay your rent, 112 00:06:05,279 --> 00:06:08,359 Speaker 3: and it's that the business was started and employs your family, 113 00:06:08,720 --> 00:06:11,279 Speaker 3: of course you want to stop the thieves from stealing 114 00:06:11,320 --> 00:06:14,160 Speaker 3: your property that you owe money on because generally you 115 00:06:14,200 --> 00:06:17,160 Speaker 3: pay your bills in arrears. They send you the product 116 00:06:17,160 --> 00:06:18,599 Speaker 3: and then you pay your bill and you can't pay 117 00:06:18,600 --> 00:06:20,880 Speaker 3: your bill because somebody stole your property. So what this 118 00:06:20,920 --> 00:06:25,760 Speaker 3: says is, if you have two prior convictions for misdemeanor 119 00:06:25,839 --> 00:06:29,960 Speaker 3: theft on the third, we can consider either charging you 120 00:06:30,000 --> 00:06:33,080 Speaker 3: again as a misdemeanor or a felony. So we can 121 00:06:33,120 --> 00:06:35,520 Speaker 3: take you seriously, and you have to take yourself seriously. 122 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:38,920 Speaker 3: On the third, and it says if two or more 123 00:06:39,000 --> 00:06:43,400 Speaker 3: persons come into an establishment like the Smashing Grabs and 124 00:06:43,440 --> 00:06:47,560 Speaker 3: they steal over fifty thousand dollars in property. We can 125 00:06:47,600 --> 00:06:50,960 Speaker 3: add that as an enhancement to ask for more jail time. 126 00:06:51,480 --> 00:06:54,680 Speaker 3: Fifty thousand dollars. Okay. So when they go into the 127 00:06:54,800 --> 00:06:58,279 Speaker 3: Nike stores, they step poor guy in Los Angeles who 128 00:06:58,320 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 3: has a shoe store. Who got you? He said, I'm 129 00:07:00,360 --> 00:07:02,520 Speaker 3: going to invest in my community where I grew up. 130 00:07:02,680 --> 00:07:05,520 Speaker 3: What do they do? They back cars it into his gate, 131 00:07:05,839 --> 00:07:08,839 Speaker 3: smash through his windows, and steal him from him two 132 00:07:08,839 --> 00:07:12,000 Speaker 3: weeks in a row, and he's still committed to his community. 133 00:07:12,240 --> 00:07:15,160 Speaker 3: That's the kind of person who has everything to lose, 134 00:07:15,240 --> 00:07:18,640 Speaker 3: John that we need to save with this initiative. And 135 00:07:18,680 --> 00:07:20,400 Speaker 3: then the third, of course is fentanyl. 136 00:07:21,000 --> 00:07:24,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, talk about this is to stop the fentanel trafficking 137 00:07:24,920 --> 00:07:28,120 Speaker 1: that ends up killing people. And there really isn't an 138 00:07:28,160 --> 00:07:32,360 Speaker 1: effective penalty right now for selling fentanyl to someone who 139 00:07:32,440 --> 00:07:33,440 Speaker 1: dies from it. 140 00:07:34,600 --> 00:07:38,800 Speaker 3: So we know that China is supporting and funding and 141 00:07:38,880 --> 00:07:43,560 Speaker 3: sending the fentanyl that they manufacture all synthetic, nothing natural 142 00:07:43,600 --> 00:07:46,240 Speaker 3: about it. It's all made in the lab. They send 143 00:07:46,240 --> 00:07:49,440 Speaker 3: that to Mexico and then the cartel takes that sentinyl 144 00:07:49,960 --> 00:07:54,560 Speaker 3: and compresses it into every single kind of street illicit pill. 145 00:07:55,040 --> 00:07:58,280 Speaker 3: Zanex quite you know, all these different things, all these 146 00:07:59,640 --> 00:08:03,520 Speaker 3: drugs that you know, people experiment with and they can't 147 00:08:03,560 --> 00:08:05,440 Speaker 3: get a prescription, so they buy it on the street. 148 00:08:05,680 --> 00:08:08,400 Speaker 3: And the drug dealers know and the cartel knows that 149 00:08:08,480 --> 00:08:12,120 Speaker 3: these illicit drugs that they're selling to be something that 150 00:08:12,160 --> 00:08:14,400 Speaker 3: it's not, but they're going to make a quick buck 151 00:08:15,040 --> 00:08:18,080 Speaker 3: contains sentanyl because it's cheap, that it doesn't take a 152 00:08:18,160 --> 00:08:21,080 Speaker 3: large quantity to get high, and they make it look 153 00:08:21,160 --> 00:08:23,680 Speaker 3: like an illicit street drug that somebody actually wants to 154 00:08:23,720 --> 00:08:27,520 Speaker 3: buy who doesn't use stentanyl. So what this this initiative 155 00:08:27,560 --> 00:08:30,200 Speaker 3: says is, Hey, if you're a drug dealer and we 156 00:08:30,320 --> 00:08:32,840 Speaker 3: catch you and prosecute you, we're going to tell you 157 00:08:32,880 --> 00:08:34,920 Speaker 3: in court. The judge is going to read you in 158 00:08:35,000 --> 00:08:39,040 Speaker 3: admonishment and it's going to say, you know, mister Spitzer, 159 00:08:39,440 --> 00:08:42,680 Speaker 3: you are being convicted today of selling drugs. You understand that, Yes, 160 00:08:43,000 --> 00:08:45,320 Speaker 3: do you understand that if you do that in the 161 00:08:45,360 --> 00:08:49,520 Speaker 3: future and you're selling a substance that contains steentanyl and 162 00:08:49,559 --> 00:08:52,520 Speaker 3: the person dies, do you understand that we're putting you 163 00:08:52,679 --> 00:08:56,720 Speaker 3: on notice that you could kill somebody because you're peddling 164 00:08:56,840 --> 00:09:01,320 Speaker 3: drugs that more likely than not contains Sentinel, because the 165 00:09:01,360 --> 00:09:04,319 Speaker 3: whole world knows. You may not know, mister drug dealer, 166 00:09:04,559 --> 00:09:07,880 Speaker 3: but the whole world knows that these drugs coming in 167 00:09:07,920 --> 00:09:11,079 Speaker 3: today on the street contain Sentinel. And we have lost 168 00:09:11,120 --> 00:09:14,840 Speaker 3: over one hundred and twenty five thousand Americans to overdose 169 00:09:14,840 --> 00:09:17,520 Speaker 3: a fentanyl when they didn't even know they were taking Sentinel. 170 00:09:17,640 --> 00:09:21,080 Speaker 3: Do you understand that, mister Spitzer? Yes, I do. And 171 00:09:21,120 --> 00:09:24,600 Speaker 3: then next time mister Spitzer is arrested for dealing trudge 172 00:09:24,640 --> 00:09:28,320 Speaker 3: and somebody dies, I can enter that admonishment in the 173 00:09:28,400 --> 00:09:31,880 Speaker 3: court in front of the jury to prove knowledge. Like 174 00:09:32,040 --> 00:09:35,240 Speaker 3: in drunk driving, we do this today with driving under 175 00:09:35,240 --> 00:09:38,160 Speaker 3: the influence. If you drink and drive, mister Spitzer, do 176 00:09:38,160 --> 00:09:41,000 Speaker 3: you understand next time, if you kill, we can charge 177 00:09:41,000 --> 00:09:45,120 Speaker 3: you with implied malice murder? Yes, I do, your honor, Boom, 178 00:09:45,480 --> 00:09:47,679 Speaker 3: we use that to convict him for murder if he 179 00:09:47,760 --> 00:09:49,880 Speaker 3: drinks and drives and kills in the future. 180 00:09:50,559 --> 00:09:54,320 Speaker 1: This really will have a big impact on life in California. 181 00:09:54,520 --> 00:09:56,640 Speaker 1: I mean it sounds like it would really send us 182 00:09:56,840 --> 00:10:01,880 Speaker 1: in a new, much better direction. You see very optimistic 183 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:02,280 Speaker 1: about it. 184 00:10:03,600 --> 00:10:06,480 Speaker 3: I feel so optimistic about it. And the thing I 185 00:10:06,640 --> 00:10:10,480 Speaker 3: can't stand is watching what's happening in Oakland where in 186 00:10:10,559 --> 00:10:13,679 Speaker 3: and out leaves. The governor says he's got to send 187 00:10:13,720 --> 00:10:17,320 Speaker 3: in resources for the Alameda County d Who I heard you, 188 00:10:17,440 --> 00:10:20,320 Speaker 3: Lamb Pass. I'm so grateful to you for doing that 189 00:10:20,400 --> 00:10:24,480 Speaker 3: Pamela Price yesterday. And they're sending in real prosecutors to 190 00:10:24,679 --> 00:10:29,720 Speaker 3: help her office prosecute all these crimes that are going unprosecuted. 191 00:10:29,760 --> 00:10:33,360 Speaker 3: And guess what, nothing's going to change because she doesn't 192 00:10:33,400 --> 00:10:37,680 Speaker 3: philosophically share the sentiment that people should be held accountable 193 00:10:37,800 --> 00:10:40,880 Speaker 3: for their crimes, just like in Los Angeles. But let 194 00:10:40,960 --> 00:10:43,280 Speaker 3: me tell you, when these laws get on the books, 195 00:10:43,320 --> 00:10:47,360 Speaker 3: when this initiative passes, and it should pass by overwhelming margins, 196 00:10:47,840 --> 00:10:50,880 Speaker 3: we will have the kinds of laws not only that 197 00:10:50,920 --> 00:10:54,640 Speaker 3: we can actually make change in society, John, but we're 198 00:10:54,679 --> 00:10:57,920 Speaker 3: going to hold DA's accountable in the entire state. We're 199 00:10:57,960 --> 00:11:00,480 Speaker 3: going to get rid of the Pamela Prices. We're gonna 200 00:11:00,480 --> 00:11:03,760 Speaker 3: get rid of the George Gascones, we got rid of Chessabodein, 201 00:11:04,160 --> 00:11:07,280 Speaker 3: and we have I think we finally are turning a 202 00:11:07,360 --> 00:11:11,120 Speaker 3: major corner where people in this state know that the 203 00:11:11,280 --> 00:11:14,559 Speaker 3: DA's have a major impact on our quality of life. 204 00:11:14,720 --> 00:11:18,040 Speaker 3: Pam Price said, DIA's have nothing to do with our 205 00:11:18,120 --> 00:11:22,040 Speaker 3: quality of life. That's outrageous. Just look at La, just 206 00:11:22,040 --> 00:11:22,800 Speaker 3: look at Oakland. 207 00:11:23,600 --> 00:11:27,479 Speaker 1: Todd always good to talk to you, talk with you. You're 208 00:11:27,240 --> 00:11:30,400 Speaker 1: like a shot of adrenaline. We will see you Thursday 209 00:11:30,480 --> 00:11:33,040 Speaker 1: the twenty second at the Honda Center and they get 210 00:11:33,040 --> 00:11:33,719 Speaker 1: the signatures. 211 00:11:34,679 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 3: You charge me up. You're the one that helps keep 212 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:40,200 Speaker 3: me motivated like so many other good citizens. And I'm 213 00:11:40,200 --> 00:11:42,800 Speaker 3: glad that I have that reciprocal effect on you. We 214 00:11:42,960 --> 00:11:45,160 Speaker 3: got to turn out people in droves next Thursday. 215 00:11:45,240 --> 00:11:48,040 Speaker 1: All right, we will Todd Spitzer there Orange County, DA 216 00:11:48,240 --> 00:11:51,679 Speaker 1: and it's about doing a major revision of Prop forty seven. 217 00:11:51,880 --> 00:11:55,360 Speaker 1: We're taking signatures Thursday, February trady second at the Honda 218 00:11:55,360 --> 00:11:57,400 Speaker 1: Center in Anaheim. Thank you, Todd. 219 00:11:58,240 --> 00:12:02,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Kobell on demand from KFI AM 220 00:12:02,600 --> 00:12:03,120 Speaker 4: six forty. 221 00:12:04,679 --> 00:12:09,040 Speaker 1: This is so infuriating about living in the state because 222 00:12:09,640 --> 00:12:12,360 Speaker 1: if you heard we just had tot Spitzer on and 223 00:12:12,440 --> 00:12:14,400 Speaker 1: you missed it, you know, go to the iHeart app 224 00:12:14,840 --> 00:12:17,199 Speaker 1: after four o'clock and you can hear them talking about it. 225 00:12:17,200 --> 00:12:21,000 Speaker 1: Because we want to get you. Seriously, if I can 226 00:12:21,080 --> 00:12:25,400 Speaker 1: find a way to get every single listener to sign 227 00:12:25,440 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: this petition at some point in the next few weeks, 228 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,360 Speaker 1: and we vote on this thing in November, and then boom, 229 00:12:32,960 --> 00:12:37,360 Speaker 1: we roll back time ten years, and suddenly thieves are 230 00:12:37,360 --> 00:12:42,720 Speaker 1: getting prosecuted and being sent to prison, and people using 231 00:12:42,800 --> 00:12:47,199 Speaker 1: drugs in public are being prosecuted and given the choice 232 00:12:47,320 --> 00:12:51,880 Speaker 1: of jail or treatment. Fentonel dealers will be prosecuted if 233 00:12:51,880 --> 00:12:56,360 Speaker 1: they kill people, and suddenly we're living the way life 234 00:12:56,520 --> 00:13:00,800 Speaker 1: was twenty fourteen before George gas going because he co 235 00:13:00,960 --> 00:13:05,439 Speaker 1: wrote this bill. It's not the only thing that caused 236 00:13:06,160 --> 00:13:10,520 Speaker 1: the degradation of daily life, but it is a huge component, 237 00:13:11,520 --> 00:13:14,760 Speaker 1: and this is what led to all the bodies laying 238 00:13:14,760 --> 00:13:19,480 Speaker 1: in the streets. The drug addicts, the mental patience, the homelessness. 239 00:13:19,559 --> 00:13:22,280 Speaker 1: So much of it is from Prop forty seven and 240 00:13:22,360 --> 00:13:25,400 Speaker 1: George Gascon, and that's why you also have to vote 241 00:13:25,440 --> 00:13:29,079 Speaker 1: against George Gascon. And we'll be talking seriously next week 242 00:13:29,120 --> 00:13:32,640 Speaker 1: about who to vote four. All Right, we've had most 243 00:13:32,679 --> 00:13:35,400 Speaker 1: of the candidates on and it's time to hone in 244 00:13:35,480 --> 00:13:39,960 Speaker 1: on who's that not only would do a terrific job, 245 00:13:39,960 --> 00:13:44,000 Speaker 1: but also we'll be able to beat Gascon in November, 246 00:13:44,520 --> 00:13:48,440 Speaker 1: because it's top two slots. Now, ideally we get two 247 00:13:48,440 --> 00:13:53,200 Speaker 1: of the good guys to finish one and two in March, 248 00:13:54,400 --> 00:13:58,040 Speaker 1: and then life will be a little more relaxed leading 249 00:13:58,080 --> 00:14:01,960 Speaker 1: to November, because you know, Scone and the dirt bags 250 00:14:02,000 --> 00:14:05,640 Speaker 1: who finance him are gonna play really, really dirty. But 251 00:14:05,720 --> 00:14:10,120 Speaker 1: the frustrating thing is, while there's so much crime, there's 252 00:14:10,120 --> 00:14:13,080 Speaker 1: so much retail theft, smash and grabs. I mentioned this 253 00:14:13,160 --> 00:14:15,480 Speaker 1: the other day, and this story made the New York 254 00:14:15,480 --> 00:14:20,640 Speaker 1: Times with more detail. They are seriously gonna ban plastic 255 00:14:20,720 --> 00:14:26,240 Speaker 1: bags a second time. The thin bags were banned, and 256 00:14:26,360 --> 00:14:28,480 Speaker 1: most of the stores for a dime give you a 257 00:14:29,040 --> 00:14:33,880 Speaker 1: thicker bag. These aren't the big reusable bags, right, but. 258 00:14:33,880 --> 00:14:37,840 Speaker 5: They give you. They also give you not the plastic bags, 259 00:14:37,840 --> 00:14:39,080 Speaker 5: but the paper bags as well. 260 00:14:39,160 --> 00:14:42,000 Speaker 1: Paper bags as well, which I told you completely fall 261 00:14:42,040 --> 00:14:42,560 Speaker 1: apart on me. 262 00:14:43,120 --> 00:14:46,480 Speaker 5: I know you need to get them double bagged and 263 00:14:46,520 --> 00:14:47,680 Speaker 5: then you'll pay twenty cents. 264 00:14:49,440 --> 00:14:51,680 Speaker 6: Yeah, and you have to pay for all this go 265 00:14:51,720 --> 00:14:58,040 Speaker 6: to self checkout. Oh, I pay if you say zero bags. 266 00:14:58,040 --> 00:14:59,520 Speaker 6: And then I just asked the guys standing there for 267 00:14:59,560 --> 00:14:59,960 Speaker 6: some bag. 268 00:15:00,080 --> 00:15:00,880 Speaker 7: But that's stealing. 269 00:15:01,200 --> 00:15:04,760 Speaker 1: Yeah. Actually I stole two bags the other day. Yeah 270 00:15:04,760 --> 00:15:07,640 Speaker 1: I did. I'm so sick of it. The bags should 271 00:15:07,680 --> 00:15:08,280 Speaker 1: come for free. 272 00:15:08,360 --> 00:15:11,040 Speaker 5: Okay, it's really not a big deal to bring your 273 00:15:11,080 --> 00:15:12,120 Speaker 5: own reusable bag. 274 00:15:12,160 --> 00:15:14,600 Speaker 7: I know, John, you don't think it's manly enough. 275 00:15:14,800 --> 00:15:17,800 Speaker 1: It's not. Eric, It's not manly, isn't it? Take it reusable bag. 276 00:15:18,000 --> 00:15:21,720 Speaker 1: I don't know a single bag reusable bag. Yeah, I 277 00:15:21,720 --> 00:15:23,760 Speaker 1: don't know. I don't know any guys who brings. 278 00:15:23,760 --> 00:15:26,000 Speaker 7: I see plenty when I go into the stores. 279 00:15:26,760 --> 00:15:33,160 Speaker 1: Well, depends what neighborhood you're in, anyway. Uh, the it 280 00:15:33,240 --> 00:15:37,200 Speaker 1: says here the plastic bag ban is a failed experiment, 281 00:15:37,920 --> 00:15:41,440 Speaker 1: an environmental rule that backfired and made the matter worse. 282 00:15:42,640 --> 00:15:46,080 Speaker 1: They never put anything in the law about thicker bags. 283 00:15:46,120 --> 00:15:48,520 Speaker 1: It didn't seem like it was going to be the 284 00:15:48,560 --> 00:15:53,640 Speaker 1: thing that it ultimately ultimately became. There was an explosion 285 00:15:53,680 --> 00:15:57,800 Speaker 1: in thicker plastic bags. Well, of course, because people need 286 00:15:57,840 --> 00:16:02,520 Speaker 1: disposable bags to do their business. It is inconvenient and annoying, 287 00:16:02,840 --> 00:16:08,480 Speaker 1: not to mention, unmanly to carry around those those bigger 288 00:16:08,480 --> 00:16:11,960 Speaker 1: reusable bags. These are just I mean, actually I liked it. 289 00:16:12,160 --> 00:16:15,320 Speaker 1: I like these better than the very thin bags. And uh, 290 00:16:15,640 --> 00:16:18,160 Speaker 1: you know, I use them a little bit around the house. 291 00:16:18,560 --> 00:16:20,280 Speaker 1: They don't go in the garbage right away. 292 00:16:20,560 --> 00:16:22,440 Speaker 5: But you know, it doesn't make sense when you go 293 00:16:22,600 --> 00:16:25,040 Speaker 5: and say, you grab some apples. 294 00:16:25,080 --> 00:16:27,160 Speaker 7: I know that that's you know, unheard of for you. 295 00:16:27,360 --> 00:16:30,040 Speaker 1: Well you want me to grab apples and walk around 296 00:16:30,080 --> 00:16:32,080 Speaker 1: with a usable bag. What I'm saying. 297 00:16:31,920 --> 00:16:35,160 Speaker 5: Is those those plastic bags that you put fruit in 298 00:16:35,440 --> 00:16:37,800 Speaker 5: right before you put them in your bag. They don't 299 00:16:37,880 --> 00:16:40,160 Speaker 5: charge for those, but they charge for the bags. 300 00:16:40,440 --> 00:16:42,280 Speaker 1: Yeah, right, yes, you're right. 301 00:16:42,520 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 7: That doesn't even. 302 00:16:43,360 --> 00:16:47,200 Speaker 1: Well because if you buy vegetables, that's that's healthy, that's 303 00:16:47,280 --> 00:16:49,160 Speaker 1: that meets with the approval of these things. 304 00:16:49,720 --> 00:16:50,080 Speaker 7: Got it. 305 00:16:50,120 --> 00:16:53,360 Speaker 1: See you're doing a that's why that's a wonderful thing. 306 00:16:54,760 --> 00:16:59,120 Speaker 1: He The thing is, they they thought this would work 307 00:16:59,200 --> 00:17:02,560 Speaker 1: if it was in the idea of But the plastic 308 00:17:02,640 --> 00:17:08,320 Speaker 1: bags were never recycled. No bag manufacturer, retailer could show 309 00:17:08,359 --> 00:17:14,359 Speaker 1: any evidence of these thicker plastic bags ever getting recycled. 310 00:17:14,640 --> 00:17:18,800 Speaker 1: Nobody even tried because there's no money in this, that 311 00:17:18,960 --> 00:17:21,800 Speaker 1: recycling thing. All the stuff that you dutifully put in 312 00:17:21,880 --> 00:17:26,399 Speaker 1: recycling bins or recycling public garbage containers, none of that 313 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,960 Speaker 1: gets recycled. It all goes to the landfill. There's no 314 00:17:29,119 --> 00:17:31,840 Speaker 1: money in it. We were shipping it to China. For 315 00:17:31,880 --> 00:17:34,560 Speaker 1: a short time, China was taking our recyclables. But they 316 00:17:34,600 --> 00:17:37,959 Speaker 1: can't make money either, So everybody's got to give up 317 00:17:38,000 --> 00:17:40,760 Speaker 1: on this. We just have to live with the plastic 318 00:17:40,800 --> 00:17:46,720 Speaker 1: bags going to the landfill. There's there's infinite amount of 319 00:17:46,760 --> 00:17:51,280 Speaker 1: room for landfill for an infinite amount of time. There's 320 00:17:51,320 --> 00:17:54,480 Speaker 1: nothing wrong with the landfill. That's what that's that's a 321 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:59,280 Speaker 1: very tiny price to pay for modern life. Only religious 322 00:17:59,320 --> 00:18:04,399 Speaker 1: fanatics get angry about landfills and try to impose plastic banks. 323 00:18:04,520 --> 00:18:10,879 Speaker 1: It's this entire progressive movement, and you know, it's the 324 00:18:10,920 --> 00:18:14,480 Speaker 1: same people who brought you Prop forty seven and took 325 00:18:14,520 --> 00:18:17,720 Speaker 1: away all the drug laws and the theft laws. It's 326 00:18:17,760 --> 00:18:20,400 Speaker 1: all the same people, and it's become like a deaf cult, 327 00:18:20,480 --> 00:18:24,399 Speaker 1: and they're incredibly annoying. There is not one moment of 328 00:18:24,400 --> 00:18:29,360 Speaker 1: the day where they're not invading your life, where they 329 00:18:29,359 --> 00:18:36,360 Speaker 1: don't have another rule, another regulation, another ban. Just I'm 330 00:18:36,400 --> 00:18:38,960 Speaker 1: gonna tell you about the copper wire theft in LA 331 00:18:39,080 --> 00:18:43,040 Speaker 1: there's another story on that which is ten times worse 332 00:18:43,119 --> 00:18:45,399 Speaker 1: than it was a few years ago, ten times worse. 333 00:18:47,600 --> 00:18:48,240 Speaker 1: We're coming up. 334 00:18:49,240 --> 00:18:53,560 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobels on demand from KFI AM 335 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:54,440 Speaker 4: six forty. 336 00:18:55,040 --> 00:18:56,919 Speaker 1: Ron from one to four and then after four o'clock 337 00:18:56,960 --> 00:19:00,600 Speaker 1: John Cobelt Show on demand, the podcast. We're going to 338 00:19:00,640 --> 00:19:03,600 Speaker 1: talk to Bill Malugin in just a few seconds, because 339 00:19:03,680 --> 00:19:08,400 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles Times ran in a column today an 340 00:19:08,400 --> 00:19:14,239 Speaker 1: opinion piece in their editorial section saying, no fentinil is 341 00:19:14,280 --> 00:19:18,400 Speaker 1: not being smuggled over the border by migrants, flat out statement, 342 00:19:18,560 --> 00:19:23,000 Speaker 1: no fentinyl is not being smuggled over the border by migrants, 343 00:19:23,119 --> 00:19:27,920 Speaker 1: claiming that most of the fentinyl is being smuggled by 344 00:19:28,320 --> 00:19:34,000 Speaker 1: US citizens, and they call it dangerous speech, dangerous speech 345 00:19:34,119 --> 00:19:38,720 Speaker 1: which creates risks of violence against a particular group. And 346 00:19:38,960 --> 00:19:42,800 Speaker 1: we have Bill Malugin, who has spent years now at 347 00:19:42,840 --> 00:19:46,119 Speaker 1: the border most of the time I see and hear 348 00:19:46,200 --> 00:19:51,280 Speaker 1: him at the border in Texas, in the Elpaso area, 349 00:19:52,240 --> 00:19:56,159 Speaker 1: among other points, and he has seen a number of 350 00:19:56,560 --> 00:20:00,680 Speaker 1: illegal immigrants caught backpacking fentinyl across the border, and he's 351 00:20:00,720 --> 00:20:03,960 Speaker 1: coming on to it to explain. Bill, I just got 352 00:20:03,960 --> 00:20:07,199 Speaker 1: to tell you up front, you do some of the 353 00:20:07,200 --> 00:20:09,800 Speaker 1: best work of any reporter anywhere in the world that 354 00:20:09,800 --> 00:20:12,080 Speaker 1: I've seen the last few years on the border. And 355 00:20:12,119 --> 00:20:13,680 Speaker 1: you did great work when you were here in LA 356 00:20:13,760 --> 00:20:15,960 Speaker 1: two locally. So I just want to tell you I 357 00:20:16,000 --> 00:20:18,120 Speaker 1: see you and hear you almost every day, and it's 358 00:20:18,160 --> 00:20:20,040 Speaker 1: just unbelievable what you've been doing. 359 00:20:20,000 --> 00:20:22,320 Speaker 2: Oh, thank you, thank you, John. I really appreciate that. 360 00:20:22,920 --> 00:20:26,920 Speaker 1: What have you been seeing? Where did this opinion piece 361 00:20:26,960 --> 00:20:28,480 Speaker 1: go wrong in the La Times? 362 00:20:29,080 --> 00:20:29,320 Speaker 2: Yeah? 363 00:20:29,400 --> 00:20:33,360 Speaker 8: So, the headline for this La Times columns says, quote, 364 00:20:33,640 --> 00:20:37,439 Speaker 8: many Americans believe migrants bring setanel across the border that 365 00:20:37,600 --> 00:20:39,480 Speaker 8: is wrong and dangerous. 366 00:20:39,760 --> 00:20:42,200 Speaker 2: As soon as I saw that, I just shook my head. 367 00:20:42,200 --> 00:20:43,639 Speaker 8: I was like, you have got to be kidding me, 368 00:20:43,720 --> 00:20:46,480 Speaker 8: because if the people who wrote this did literally ten 369 00:20:46,600 --> 00:20:49,800 Speaker 8: seconds of research, they would find out that that headline 370 00:20:49,880 --> 00:20:53,880 Speaker 8: is completely false. It's obvious that whoever wrote it wasn't 371 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,159 Speaker 8: interested in the truth. They were interested in their truth. 372 00:20:57,440 --> 00:21:02,280 Speaker 8: There have been handfuls of illegal immigrants busted backpacking large 373 00:21:02,280 --> 00:21:06,320 Speaker 8: amounts of fetanyl across the southern border, whether it's in Yuma, Arizona, 374 00:21:06,400 --> 00:21:10,119 Speaker 8: No Gallas, Arizona, Eagle Pass, Texas, Big Bend Sector in 375 00:21:10,160 --> 00:21:14,119 Speaker 8: West Texas. There are photos of all these bus reported 376 00:21:14,400 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 8: by border patrol. You could have found it in a 377 00:21:16,840 --> 00:21:20,159 Speaker 8: Google search within ten seconds. They didn't want to do that. 378 00:21:20,280 --> 00:21:23,440 Speaker 8: They ran with the headline that says no illegal immigrants 379 00:21:23,440 --> 00:21:25,639 Speaker 8: are bringing fentanyl across the border. That has just flat 380 00:21:25,640 --> 00:21:28,399 Speaker 8: out false. Now there's some nuance to this. It is 381 00:21:28,520 --> 00:21:31,520 Speaker 8: true that most of the fetanyl coming into the United 382 00:21:31,560 --> 00:21:34,760 Speaker 8: States being smuggled. It's happening at ports of entry, in 383 00:21:34,800 --> 00:21:37,080 Speaker 8: other words, where cars are coming into the country, and 384 00:21:37,160 --> 00:21:40,200 Speaker 8: often it's US citizens behind the wheel of those cars. 385 00:21:40,240 --> 00:21:42,480 Speaker 8: Why are they using cars Because you can smuggle a 386 00:21:42,480 --> 00:21:45,879 Speaker 8: lot more fentanyl in hidden compartments and vehicles. You can 387 00:21:45,920 --> 00:21:48,320 Speaker 8: smuggle it by the pound rather than by the packet 388 00:21:48,640 --> 00:21:49,360 Speaker 8: in a backpack. 389 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,360 Speaker 2: So yes, a large majority. 390 00:21:50,960 --> 00:21:53,680 Speaker 8: Of the fentanyl being smuggled into the United States does 391 00:21:53,760 --> 00:21:55,000 Speaker 8: happen at ports of entry. 392 00:21:55,359 --> 00:21:56,879 Speaker 2: However, the La. 393 00:21:56,800 --> 00:21:59,800 Speaker 8: Times headline that no illegal immigrants are bringing it across 394 00:21:59,840 --> 00:22:03,879 Speaker 8: the border between the ports of entry is just blatantly false. 395 00:22:03,920 --> 00:22:06,199 Speaker 8: They can look up the stories the bus to see that, 396 00:22:06,480 --> 00:22:09,520 Speaker 8: or they can just look at Border Patrol's data. For instance, 397 00:22:10,000 --> 00:22:13,240 Speaker 8: in fiscal year twenty twenty three, Border Patrol sezed over 398 00:22:13,280 --> 00:22:17,600 Speaker 8: two eight hundred pounds of sentinel between the ports of entry. 399 00:22:17,640 --> 00:22:19,640 Speaker 8: Now when you hear that term between the ports of entry, 400 00:22:19,680 --> 00:22:22,359 Speaker 8: some people say, huh, what does that mean? Between ports 401 00:22:22,359 --> 00:22:26,360 Speaker 8: of entry, means all those desert patches, between land bridges 402 00:22:26,400 --> 00:22:29,200 Speaker 8: between ports of entry, essentially out in the brush, out 403 00:22:29,240 --> 00:22:32,119 Speaker 8: in the remote area. That's where border patrol sees more 404 00:22:32,160 --> 00:22:34,359 Speaker 8: than twenty eight hundred pounds of sentinel last year. And 405 00:22:34,440 --> 00:22:37,320 Speaker 8: keep in mind, just a few grains of salt worth 406 00:22:37,400 --> 00:22:40,199 Speaker 8: of sentinyl is a lethal dose able to kill an 407 00:22:40,240 --> 00:22:43,680 Speaker 8: adult man, and you're talking over a ton of it 408 00:22:43,720 --> 00:22:46,800 Speaker 8: sees between ports of entry last year. 409 00:22:46,880 --> 00:22:48,320 Speaker 2: Now, are most of. 410 00:22:48,280 --> 00:22:51,120 Speaker 8: These migrants that we're seeing on TV giving up by 411 00:22:51,680 --> 00:22:54,560 Speaker 8: giving themselves up to border patrol and the groups of hundreds, 412 00:22:55,200 --> 00:22:58,000 Speaker 8: are they the ones smuggling sentinel? No, those are people 413 00:22:58,000 --> 00:23:00,560 Speaker 8: who are looking to take advantage of catch and release 414 00:23:00,600 --> 00:23:02,800 Speaker 8: and get into the US with the court date you know, 415 00:23:02,880 --> 00:23:04,679 Speaker 8: eight years away, and hope they get a job in 416 00:23:04,680 --> 00:23:07,639 Speaker 8: the meantime. So who is smuggling the fentanyl across the 417 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:10,600 Speaker 8: border in between the ports of entry? While border patrol 418 00:23:10,680 --> 00:23:13,359 Speaker 8: is busy dealing with those groups of hundreds out in 419 00:23:13,400 --> 00:23:16,720 Speaker 8: the remote areas where there are no agents patrolling because 420 00:23:16,720 --> 00:23:19,720 Speaker 8: they're busy processing those big groups, that's where you have 421 00:23:19,800 --> 00:23:23,159 Speaker 8: the illegal immigrants backpacking it across and John. It is 422 00:23:23,240 --> 00:23:26,360 Speaker 8: so concerning because with the border crisis the way it's 423 00:23:26,400 --> 00:23:29,400 Speaker 8: been these last few years, we have had few if 424 00:23:29,480 --> 00:23:32,680 Speaker 8: any agents patrolling some of those remote areas. There are 425 00:23:32,760 --> 00:23:35,439 Speaker 8: times when we get those months where it's really busy, 426 00:23:35,640 --> 00:23:38,520 Speaker 8: where we have hundreds of miles of our border without 427 00:23:38,560 --> 00:23:41,280 Speaker 8: a single agent patrolling it because they're all called in 428 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,600 Speaker 8: to deal with those huge groups that we see, whether 429 00:23:44,640 --> 00:23:48,000 Speaker 8: it's in Lukeville, Arizona, or Eagle Pass. So there are 430 00:23:48,240 --> 00:23:52,119 Speaker 8: photos of these busts of illegal immigrants backpacking this deadly 431 00:23:52,200 --> 00:23:55,080 Speaker 8: product across the border. All they had to do was 432 00:23:55,119 --> 00:23:57,520 Speaker 8: google it for ten seconds, or look at a Border 433 00:23:57,560 --> 00:24:00,640 Speaker 8: Patrol press release, or just go on the cdpsite. 434 00:24:00,880 --> 00:24:02,160 Speaker 2: They decided not to do that. 435 00:24:02,200 --> 00:24:04,479 Speaker 8: They had a narrative they wanted to run with, and 436 00:24:04,480 --> 00:24:06,080 Speaker 8: they went with it. So I felt the need to 437 00:24:06,080 --> 00:24:08,119 Speaker 8: say something because, as you mentioned, yes, I've spent the 438 00:24:08,160 --> 00:24:09,680 Speaker 8: last three years of my life down there on the 439 00:24:09,720 --> 00:24:13,520 Speaker 8: southern border, and it is completely false to claim that 440 00:24:13,640 --> 00:24:16,359 Speaker 8: no illegal immigrants are bringing fetanyl across the border. You 441 00:24:16,400 --> 00:24:19,080 Speaker 8: can just ask the over one hundred thousand people who 442 00:24:19,119 --> 00:24:20,880 Speaker 8: die each year from fetnal ads about that. 443 00:24:21,880 --> 00:24:24,920 Speaker 1: It is staggering how many people have died. I mean, 444 00:24:24,960 --> 00:24:26,920 Speaker 1: it really is one hundred thousand people a year now, 445 00:24:27,520 --> 00:24:30,840 Speaker 1: and I run into people who just don't want to 446 00:24:30,840 --> 00:24:32,600 Speaker 1: believe that a lot of it's coming over the border. 447 00:24:32,600 --> 00:24:36,040 Speaker 1: They're so politically aligned that they don't want to admit 448 00:24:36,160 --> 00:24:40,240 Speaker 1: that this policy right now, the way we're running things 449 00:24:40,400 --> 00:24:42,879 Speaker 1: is a disaster. It couldn't possibly be worse. 450 00:24:45,320 --> 00:24:48,639 Speaker 8: And John, the thing is, we truly have no idea 451 00:24:48,680 --> 00:24:50,560 Speaker 8: how much fetnol is getting into the country. You know 452 00:24:50,600 --> 00:24:53,880 Speaker 8: why because since President Biden took office, there've been over 453 00:24:53,960 --> 00:24:56,840 Speaker 8: one point eight million known guidaways at our southern border. 454 00:24:56,840 --> 00:24:59,800 Speaker 8: Those are people that were seen on cameras or censors, 455 00:25:00,040 --> 00:25:02,359 Speaker 8: or they left tracks in the sand, but we don't 456 00:25:02,359 --> 00:25:04,400 Speaker 8: have border patrol agents to get to them, so they 457 00:25:04,440 --> 00:25:05,480 Speaker 8: sneak into the country. 458 00:25:05,800 --> 00:25:08,200 Speaker 2: They're evading. Now, you have to ask yourself what kind 459 00:25:08,200 --> 00:25:09,360 Speaker 2: of people evade right now? 460 00:25:09,400 --> 00:25:12,600 Speaker 8: It's so easy to be apprehended and released into the country. 461 00:25:12,640 --> 00:25:14,719 Speaker 8: That's why we see these huge groups giving themselves up. 462 00:25:14,760 --> 00:25:17,000 Speaker 8: They know they're going to be released. So who are 463 00:25:17,000 --> 00:25:17,720 Speaker 8: the people. 464 00:25:17,480 --> 00:25:19,320 Speaker 2: Who have a motive to evade right now? 465 00:25:19,440 --> 00:25:22,520 Speaker 8: Right it's likely the crowd with criminal records or their 466 00:25:22,560 --> 00:25:27,000 Speaker 8: trafficking product, or their trafficking high value human smuggling products. 467 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:30,040 Speaker 8: So with one point eight million known gotaways over the 468 00:25:30,080 --> 00:25:31,919 Speaker 8: last few years, people are going to what the La 469 00:25:32,000 --> 00:25:34,320 Speaker 8: Times is going to say, No, none of those people 470 00:25:34,320 --> 00:25:38,199 Speaker 8: were smuggling drugs, so they didn't even acknowledge godaways in 471 00:25:38,240 --> 00:25:38,840 Speaker 8: their article. 472 00:25:39,080 --> 00:25:41,800 Speaker 1: Yeah, Bill, I know you got to go right now, 473 00:25:41,920 --> 00:25:43,520 Speaker 1: So thank you for coming on. I don't want to 474 00:25:43,520 --> 00:25:44,000 Speaker 1: make you late. 475 00:25:44,800 --> 00:25:46,840 Speaker 2: Yeah, no problem, John, thanks for having me. I appreciate it. 476 00:25:46,840 --> 00:25:47,320 Speaker 2: As always. 477 00:25:47,359 --> 00:25:52,960 Speaker 1: Bill mallusion, Fox News, terrific reporter, and we will talk 478 00:25:52,960 --> 00:25:57,200 Speaker 1: about more of this in the near future. We'll come back. 479 00:25:57,840 --> 00:26:00,439 Speaker 1: The copper wire theft is ten times worse that was 480 00:26:00,480 --> 00:26:01,720 Speaker 1: a few years ago. 481 00:26:02,560 --> 00:26:06,879 Speaker 4: You're listening to John Cobelts on demand from KFI AM 482 00:26:06,920 --> 00:26:07,680 Speaker 4: six forty. 483 00:26:08,320 --> 00:26:10,640 Speaker 1: Just to follow up on Bill malusion, because the guy 484 00:26:10,720 --> 00:26:15,320 Speaker 1: really has lived at the border for the last three years. 485 00:26:15,760 --> 00:26:19,000 Speaker 1: The Ally Times is a column by Susan Benish and 486 00:26:19,080 --> 00:26:24,120 Speaker 1: Catherine Berger, their executive She's the executive director, Susan Benish 487 00:26:24,160 --> 00:26:27,600 Speaker 1: of the Dangerous Speech Project and Katherine Berger is the 488 00:26:27,640 --> 00:26:30,600 Speaker 1: director of research. So you know what we're dealing with 489 00:26:30,680 --> 00:26:36,359 Speaker 1: here too, self righteous progressives who are willing to lie 490 00:26:37,320 --> 00:26:42,200 Speaker 1: and distort the truth because they have a weird. They're 491 00:26:42,240 --> 00:26:47,280 Speaker 1: involved in a weird cult, and it's about crushing other 492 00:26:47,320 --> 00:26:52,159 Speaker 1: people's freedom of speech. And their claim is it is 493 00:26:52,280 --> 00:26:58,280 Speaker 1: dangerous to say that illegal aliens are bringing fentanyl over 494 00:26:58,320 --> 00:27:03,280 Speaker 1: the border. Uh, it's it's they say, it's it's a lie. 495 00:27:04,600 --> 00:27:07,919 Speaker 1: I mean they use the word lie as in, no, 496 00:27:08,040 --> 00:27:12,040 Speaker 1: illegal aliens are bringing over even a trace of fentanel 497 00:27:12,080 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: over the border. And you heard Bill go through all 498 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:18,640 Speaker 1: the statistics. No, they are bringing in a lot. In fact, 499 00:27:18,720 --> 00:27:21,360 Speaker 1: there's no way to know because there's one point eight 500 00:27:21,440 --> 00:27:25,720 Speaker 1: million gutaways. And that's a very important statistic because you'll 501 00:27:25,720 --> 00:27:29,960 Speaker 1: hear a statistic about those who the that the border 502 00:27:29,960 --> 00:27:34,920 Speaker 1: patrol process asylum seekers. This is the one point eight 503 00:27:34,960 --> 00:27:38,320 Speaker 1: million who aren't seeking asylum. They're not being processed. There 504 00:27:38,480 --> 00:27:42,480 Speaker 1: was no direct encounter between them and border patrol agents. 505 00:27:42,920 --> 00:27:47,359 Speaker 1: They were seen in some way running across the border, 506 00:27:48,280 --> 00:27:56,480 Speaker 1: skulking through the the unpopulated areas. And the thing is 507 00:27:57,440 --> 00:28:00,159 Speaker 1: they write this is a classic example of what we 508 00:28:00,200 --> 00:28:04,240 Speaker 1: call dangerous speech, language that inspires fear and violence. Fear 509 00:28:04,280 --> 00:28:06,439 Speaker 1: and violence by describing another group of people as an 510 00:28:06,480 --> 00:28:10,600 Speaker 1: existential threat. They want to shut down speech. They want 511 00:28:10,640 --> 00:28:13,520 Speaker 1: to shut down opinions that they wish would go away. 512 00:28:14,480 --> 00:28:17,879 Speaker 1: They don't want to hear truths such just opinions. It's truths. No, 513 00:28:17,920 --> 00:28:20,600 Speaker 1: there are plenty of illegal aliens smuggling lots of fentin 514 00:28:20,640 --> 00:28:24,920 Speaker 1: al over the border. Obviously, it's not all the fentanyl. 515 00:28:25,480 --> 00:28:31,040 Speaker 1: Much of it's come coming over with legal immigrants with 516 00:28:31,280 --> 00:28:36,360 Speaker 1: US citizens, but a lot of it is not. And 517 00:28:37,000 --> 00:28:39,880 Speaker 1: the Times prints this knowingly. They printed knowing w lie 518 00:28:39,920 --> 00:28:43,480 Speaker 1: and I think, what are we to do. There's only 519 00:28:43,520 --> 00:28:49,640 Speaker 1: one daily newspaper in town that covers the whole metropolitan area, 520 00:28:49,680 --> 00:28:54,800 Speaker 1: only one, and it's no longer a newspaper that cares 521 00:28:54,920 --> 00:28:58,800 Speaker 1: whether what they're publishing is truth or not. Occasionally truth 522 00:28:58,880 --> 00:29:03,520 Speaker 1: is published, but sometimes not, and it happens often enough 523 00:29:03,560 --> 00:29:07,880 Speaker 1: that you can't trust it, and you don't know what's 524 00:29:07,920 --> 00:29:10,680 Speaker 1: being omitted, you don't know what's being distorted, and that 525 00:29:10,840 --> 00:29:14,160 Speaker 1: leaves a huge vacuum. Really, it's difficult. It's difficult. Doing 526 00:29:14,200 --> 00:29:18,120 Speaker 1: the show takes hours and hours going through stuff in 527 00:29:18,160 --> 00:29:20,480 Speaker 1: the morning, because you've got to find alternate sources. You 528 00:29:20,560 --> 00:29:24,480 Speaker 1: got to try to corroborate other sources of news. You 529 00:29:24,600 --> 00:29:28,280 Speaker 1: got to pick through everything sentence by sentence, word by word, 530 00:29:28,360 --> 00:29:31,520 Speaker 1: to look for what the bias is, what the omission is, 531 00:29:31,680 --> 00:29:35,280 Speaker 1: what the agenda is, because sometimes at first glance it 532 00:29:35,320 --> 00:29:40,280 Speaker 1: looks benign, but it's not. And you know, most of 533 00:29:40,280 --> 00:29:45,280 Speaker 1: the television stations, with a few anchors and reporters as exceptions, 534 00:29:45,280 --> 00:29:47,520 Speaker 1: but most of the philosophy of the TV stations, you 535 00:29:47,560 --> 00:29:51,920 Speaker 1: know what they run. I mean, they're more in a 536 00:29:52,600 --> 00:29:54,960 Speaker 1: they're more in the car chase, bloody murder mentality, which 537 00:29:55,000 --> 00:29:57,800 Speaker 1: I understand because visual stuff draws in an audience, and 538 00:29:57,840 --> 00:30:00,600 Speaker 1: people really don't have the patience or interest in a 539 00:30:00,600 --> 00:30:03,560 Speaker 1: lot of the nuanced stories, a lot of the tales, 540 00:30:04,360 --> 00:30:07,120 Speaker 1: which is when you end up with this large population 541 00:30:07,280 --> 00:30:12,080 Speaker 1: not interested in the world anymore, then here's the consequence. 542 00:30:13,360 --> 00:30:15,960 Speaker 1: You just look around, you could this is the consequence 543 00:30:16,000 --> 00:30:20,080 Speaker 1: of the last ten years, largely the smartphone error, when 544 00:30:20,120 --> 00:30:24,200 Speaker 1: smartphones and social media hit critical mass. This is what 545 00:30:24,280 --> 00:30:27,760 Speaker 1: you got. People no longer at TV news. Ratings are 546 00:30:27,760 --> 00:30:32,800 Speaker 1: in the toilet now, so people don't know stuff and 547 00:30:32,840 --> 00:30:37,280 Speaker 1: you don't know where to get the truth anymore. And 548 00:30:37,760 --> 00:30:40,480 Speaker 1: other story I wanted to touch on, there's now a 549 00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:44,120 Speaker 1: reward program from the La City Council. They voted thirteen 550 00:30:44,160 --> 00:30:48,720 Speaker 1: to two because so much copper wire is being stolen. 551 00:30:49,200 --> 00:30:53,320 Speaker 1: There are thousands and thousands of street lights out, and 552 00:30:54,880 --> 00:30:57,160 Speaker 1: what used to be five to six hundred cases a 553 00:30:57,200 --> 00:31:00,680 Speaker 1: year in the city of Los Angeles is now sixty 554 00:31:00,760 --> 00:31:06,560 Speaker 1: eight hundred cases last year. It's up more than tenfold, 555 00:31:06,720 --> 00:31:11,800 Speaker 1: more than ten times the number of copper thefts. So 556 00:31:11,880 --> 00:31:15,640 Speaker 1: they set up a reward program. Kevin de Leone wrote 557 00:31:15,640 --> 00:31:19,920 Speaker 1: it with Tracy Park and John Lee. And because the 558 00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:25,480 Speaker 1: whole city of Los Angeles is going dark, they have 559 00:31:25,600 --> 00:31:28,560 Speaker 1: stolen so much copper wire from the sixth Street bridge. 560 00:31:29,080 --> 00:31:33,040 Speaker 1: The thieves made eleven thousand dollars selling that copper but 561 00:31:33,160 --> 00:31:36,040 Speaker 1: the cost to us to replace it and bring the 562 00:31:36,120 --> 00:31:38,040 Speaker 1: lights back on just on the bridge is going to 563 00:31:38,040 --> 00:31:42,600 Speaker 1: be two and a half million dollars, right, were coming 564 00:31:42,680 --> 00:31:43,680 Speaker 1: up with Conway. 565 00:31:43,720 --> 00:31:45,840 Speaker 9: Now I heard it's more than two million dollars. I 566 00:31:45,840 --> 00:31:48,760 Speaker 9: heard it's closer to eighteen million. Yeah, I think the 567 00:31:48,800 --> 00:31:52,160 Speaker 9: total amount it was two million just for the bridge, yeah, right, yeah, 568 00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:55,000 Speaker 9: but there's eighteen to twenty million dollars for the copper wire. 569 00:31:55,520 --> 00:31:58,040 Speaker 9: They should just roll copper wire out on the bridge 570 00:31:58,040 --> 00:32:00,840 Speaker 9: and people can take that. They don't have to steal 571 00:32:00,880 --> 00:32:02,680 Speaker 9: the copper wire that's already installed. 572 00:32:02,760 --> 00:32:04,800 Speaker 1: Just give it out for free. That's right. Yeah, let 573 00:32:04,800 --> 00:32:06,880 Speaker 1: them let them eat copper wire. 574 00:32:08,200 --> 00:32:08,520 Speaker 2: All right. 575 00:32:08,520 --> 00:32:10,280 Speaker 1: We've got Alex Stone coming on. 576 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,640 Speaker 9: Today to talk about the police have determined that there's 577 00:32:13,680 --> 00:32:17,760 Speaker 9: a dispute between several people at that parade at Kansas City. 578 00:32:17,920 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 9: And then we had a high speed chase last night. 579 00:32:20,360 --> 00:32:22,959 Speaker 9: They came right back right by my house, looked up, 580 00:32:23,160 --> 00:32:24,880 Speaker 9: look up, you know, outside, and I said to my 581 00:32:24,920 --> 00:32:27,120 Speaker 9: wife my daughter, like, yeah, look, there's gonna be a 582 00:32:27,160 --> 00:32:28,000 Speaker 9: high speed chase. 583 00:32:28,040 --> 00:32:30,160 Speaker 1: I got my daughter to look out at it. That's wild. 584 00:32:31,440 --> 00:32:33,280 Speaker 1: What could be better for you? That's a big deal. 585 00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:37,800 Speaker 1: It's like having the Super Bowl breakout. That's right, exactly, yeah, exactly. 586 00:32:38,160 --> 00:32:40,280 Speaker 1: You know that's the only time you need to really 587 00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,560 Speaker 1: watch things live. Our sports and high speed chases. Yeah, 588 00:32:43,600 --> 00:32:45,880 Speaker 1: you know, everything else you can tape, you can't watch it. 589 00:32:46,000 --> 00:32:48,240 Speaker 1: Chase the next day doesn't have the important No, you know, 590 00:32:48,240 --> 00:32:50,200 Speaker 1: you gotta be live. You gotta watch it live and 591 00:32:50,240 --> 00:32:52,200 Speaker 1: watch it come by your house. Is not knowing what's 592 00:32:52,200 --> 00:32:54,200 Speaker 1: gonna happen. The best one is the guy. 593 00:32:54,360 --> 00:32:57,240 Speaker 9: I think he lived in He lived in Los Angeles somewhere, 594 00:32:57,720 --> 00:33:00,400 Speaker 9: maybe littles feelis and he was watching a high speed chase, 595 00:33:00,440 --> 00:33:03,120 Speaker 9: watching and watching watching it, and the car comes right 596 00:33:03,160 --> 00:33:06,280 Speaker 9: into his living room as he's watching it spins out 597 00:33:06,280 --> 00:33:09,560 Speaker 9: of control right through his living room, watching it on TV. 598 00:33:09,680 --> 00:33:10,640 Speaker 9: Now it's in his living room. 599 00:33:11,120 --> 00:33:13,120 Speaker 1: That's great. And then we have Chris Adler Conan. 600 00:33:13,160 --> 00:33:16,240 Speaker 9: I'm talking about the nine LA Fire Department firefighters injured 601 00:33:16,280 --> 00:33:18,240 Speaker 9: too critically in Wilmington explosion. 602 00:33:18,280 --> 00:33:18,959 Speaker 1: We'll talk about that. 603 00:33:19,240 --> 00:33:23,920 Speaker 9: And then doctor Ray Kascherry, the world's best pollmonologist at 604 00:33:23,960 --> 00:33:27,520 Speaker 9: six oh five. Then Dean sharp Man it's a heavy show. Yeah, 605 00:33:27,760 --> 00:33:31,160 Speaker 9: heavy heavy shows. And then I came in to get 606 00:33:31,400 --> 00:33:33,560 Speaker 9: to come into the building and my card key didn't work, 607 00:33:33,920 --> 00:33:36,040 Speaker 9: and a radio. When your car key doesn't work, you 608 00:33:36,120 --> 00:33:38,200 Speaker 9: think that's it. 609 00:33:38,320 --> 00:33:40,000 Speaker 1: That's a wrap night. It's over. 610 00:33:40,840 --> 00:33:44,920 Speaker 9: And then the guard upstairs obviously you know, he doesn't 611 00:33:44,960 --> 00:33:46,720 Speaker 9: recognize that's what on the fourth floor. He doesn't know 612 00:33:46,720 --> 00:33:49,120 Speaker 9: who we are, so he's like questioning me and everything. 613 00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:51,440 Speaker 9: If I had the balls that my dad had. My 614 00:33:51,520 --> 00:33:53,440 Speaker 9: dad was doing with the kraburneciat one point, he didn't 615 00:33:53,480 --> 00:33:55,239 Speaker 9: have his pass to get in. They didn't recognize him, 616 00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:59,600 Speaker 9: and he went home. His picture was behind the guard. 617 00:34:00,760 --> 00:34:03,520 Speaker 1: The big you know, because my picture of the cast. 618 00:34:05,920 --> 00:34:07,719 Speaker 1: It wasn't a bud shot but his. 619 00:34:07,880 --> 00:34:11,960 Speaker 9: But his picture in the CBS, you know Hallway. His 620 00:34:12,040 --> 00:34:15,040 Speaker 9: picture was right behind the guard I guess with Carol Burnett, 621 00:34:15,160 --> 00:34:18,880 Speaker 9: Harvey Korman, Vicki Lawrens, Walile Wagner. And his picture was 622 00:34:18,960 --> 00:34:20,480 Speaker 9: right on the wall and the guard goes, Now you 623 00:34:20,480 --> 00:34:24,000 Speaker 9: don't if your pass, you can't get it? All right? 624 00:34:24,080 --> 00:34:25,399 Speaker 9: Dig dong with you, John and. 625 00:34:25,360 --> 00:34:27,719 Speaker 1: Conway come on Crusher with the news live in the 626 00:34:27,760 --> 00:34:30,520 Speaker 1: KFI twenty four hour newsroom. Hey, you've been listening to 627 00:34:30,520 --> 00:34:33,080 Speaker 1: the John Cobalt Show podcast. 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