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Speaker 1: What is Up, Mets fans, Welcome back to another episode

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Speaker 1: of the Mets Up Podcast. A little second half preview

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Speaker 1: for you as we're coming out of the All Star break.

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Speaker 1: We got the Dodgers series coming up, we just had

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Speaker 1: the MLB Draft All Star Game home run derby, a

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Speaker 1: lot of different things to talk about with you guys,

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Speaker 1: as well as just kind of talk about how we're

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Speaker 1: feeling going into the second half of the season. We

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Speaker 1: know the first half was not the way we hoped,

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Speaker 1: didn't go out how we plan but maybe we still

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Speaker 1: got some hope here in the second half. We'll talk

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Speaker 1: about everything with you guys, as we always do. Make

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Speaker 1: I'm not gonna lie before I brought well, I'll bring

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Speaker 1: you in now too, but I have not looked to

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Speaker 1: see if anybody's dropped us a review. Recently on the

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Speaker 1: Old Apple podcasts a little written review. So I'm gonna

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Speaker 1: look that up here while you just tell us what

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Speaker 1: you're up to, cause you're in a different place as well.

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Speaker 2: Again, yeah, and taking advantage of the also break to

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Speaker 2: some traveling. Also talk about reviews. We're getting close to

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Speaker 2: five hundred views on Spotify, which is that's a huge benchmark.

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Speaker 2: Would be cool, will be cool to get there the

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Speaker 2: next month or so, so then you guys listening, I'll

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Speaker 2: drop a Spotify review. But I'm in beautiful like Tahoe.

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Speaker 2: I just you know, join the All Star break doing

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Speaker 2: some hiking, doing some paddle boarding. I'm gonna go kayaking

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Speaker 2: today after we do this podcasts. It's probably I've seen

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Speaker 2: a lot of America. I've been to the thirty seven States.

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Speaker 2: This might be the most beautiful thing I've ever seen

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Speaker 2: in America.

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Speaker 1: Wow.

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Speaker 2: Really genuinely, it's just like it's a big, beautiful clear

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Speaker 2: lake just completely surrounded on every side by mountains and

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Speaker 2: the most scenic stuff ever.

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Speaker 1: Is Where is Lake Tahoe in? Where is it is

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Speaker 2: It splits through California and Nevada. So like you go

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Speaker 2: is kind of funny because like both of them, I

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Speaker 2: love little like stupid like geography like civic stuff like

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Speaker 2: cross the border, like Nevada has, like, for example, like

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Speaker 2: gambling allowed. So like three inches from the California board

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Speaker 1: All Star Game home run Derby. Real quick. Pete unfortunately

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Speaker 2: The sheer amount of hard swings they were putting out there,

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Speaker 2: But just it keeps going with this home run derby

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Speaker 2: really funny watching this year over year and how those

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Speaker 1: Yeah, and I mean people, despite like maybe not getting

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Speaker 1: So I mean, good showing by. He ran into Julio

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Speaker 1: And the In terms of the All Star Game, Code

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Speaker 1: It's your first All Star Game. I could totally see

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Speaker 1: a world where you're like, I want to pitch in Seattle.

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Speaker 1: hear that Pete didn't play that well in the All

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Speaker 1: Star Game, but National League did win. If this was

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Speaker 1: But can you even believe that they used to do that,

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Speaker 2: I remember that really crazy extra ending game when you

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Speaker 1: And you're you're not a big All Star game guy, right,

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Speaker 1: like you don't really care about it at all or anything.

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Speaker 1: the other sports. I don't know about NHL because who cares.

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Speaker 1: That's only a sport John cares about. But NBA, NFL

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Speaker 1: There's like little to no effort. The MLB All Star Game,

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Speaker 1: like alias D has big, big home run to win

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Speaker 2: You one hundred percent right, and not saying they like

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Speaker 2: not little sassy, I don't care. But my my thing

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Speaker 2: not from my perspective, something that can't change, but it's

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Speaker 2: fact that, like the NBA All Star Game, while it's ridiculous,

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Speaker 2: crunch time, I put that in huge air quotes for

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Speaker 2: people not watching on YouTube, like they could at least

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Speaker 2: put the best players back in the game. LB All

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Speaker 2: Star Game is funny because like the guys whore voted in,

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Speaker 2: the guys who have all the prestige, they're out of

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Speaker 2: the game the third inning, and then in the eighth

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Speaker 2: amazing year, but like you have LSD s versus like

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Speaker 2: Felix Bautista, like Brent Rookers is getting his that bat.

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Speaker 2: Like it's like it's a little you lose like a

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Speaker 2: little bit of what like the game was like voted

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Speaker 2: and everyone like that they mix in. Everyone gets there

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Speaker 2: then you get like again, you get like the critical

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Speaker 1: I mean, like just think about like where they got

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Speaker 2: similarly not so good shape. It might even be a

433
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Speaker 2: tiny bit worse. And I think having that great change

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Speaker 2: up already and maybe this could be maybe this could

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Speaker 2: be the key to spro too. We've seen just like

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Speaker 2: the most beautiful thing about these picture is that there's

437
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Speaker 2: so many different paths to success. They get a guy

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Speaker 2: who's gonna be good. One of my favorite things I

439
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Speaker 2: saw coming out of the All Star break again, shout

440
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Speaker 2: out my guy. Lance Prostowski's becoming one of the best

441
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Speaker 2: pitching analysts that exists on TV, Internet, Twitter, whatever. He

442
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Speaker 2: does a funny spot for a Yes Network over this

443
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Speaker 2: week where he was talking about the fact that the Yankees. No,

444
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Speaker 2: we only give the Yankees any credit here, but they're

445
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Speaker 2: bullpeneer race technically factually is the lowest in baseball, But

446
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Speaker 2: the second lowest bullpeni are rate is the Cleveland Guardians. Hilariously,

447
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Speaker 2: the Yankees have the highest rate of sinkers Frenny bullpen

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Speaker 2: and Baseball and the lowest rate of four seemers. The

449
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Speaker 2: Guardians are completely the opposite highest rate of four seemers

450
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Speaker 2: the lowest rate of sinkers. So it's very clearly many

451
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Speaker 2: ways to develop a good pitcher here, and I feel

452
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Speaker 2: like these guys Sprout and Cad Morris maybe less so

453
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Speaker 2: sproke because I've lost the is good enough. Like you

454
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Speaker 2: can finely see a path where you can find a

455
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Speaker 2: turbo sinker or like a power sinker developing with these guys.

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Speaker 2: They already have the great change ups, and those sinkers

457
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Speaker 2: work so well coming off those change ups, and you

458
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Speaker 2: throw a little slyer on top of that, and it's

459
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Speaker 2: like curveball on top of that, you suddenly have a

460
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Speaker 2: pretty amazing three pitch mix that can get you all

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Speaker 2: the way through it. We're seeing you even get the

462
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Speaker 2: color in there as well, and you're seeing guys like

463
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Speaker 2: really developed that really well these last few years as

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Speaker 2: pitching development gets even more and more intricate, And I'm

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Speaker 2: very confident thest pitching development after what we'veeeen in the

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Speaker 2: last six months. So I definitely love the paths for

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Speaker 2: a guy like Morris and Sproute who have good command,

468
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Speaker 2: good mechanics, good pitching, major league bodies and can and

469
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Speaker 2: can find their find their repertoires that way.

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Speaker 1: I'm gonna hand this one off to you. Talk about

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Speaker 1: your boy Wyatt. I don't even know how to pronounce

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Speaker 1: his last name, so I'm gonna let you take it.

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Speaker 2: Why Hew the Poll, Baby. I I don't do very

474
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Speaker 2: much draft. I won't be draft stuff before the draft.

475
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Speaker 2: It's just it's so comp's the whole thing has convoluted

476
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Speaker 2: to me, and like it all just depends on the

477
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Speaker 2: money anyway, So it's like hard to analyst something that's

478
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Speaker 2: like you're not even taking the best players at the

479
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Speaker 2: top of the draft is confusing to me. But I

480
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Speaker 2: found a video this guy why Hew the Pole before

481
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Speaker 2: the draft. I just like completely fell in love with

482
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Speaker 2: all of his pitch shapes because they're they're just genuinely beautiful.

483
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Speaker 2: His fastball is amazing. It sits mid nineties, He's touched

484
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Speaker 2: the upper nineties, but really sits the mid nineties and

485
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Speaker 2: just has that beautiful, beautiful Carrie Hoppy rising shape. Like

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Speaker 2: he is a guy who the Mets have found more

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Speaker 2: Vila for guys like Tyler Stewart, Mike Vasselo over the

488
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Speaker 2: last couple of years, Christians guy as well. If he

489
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Speaker 2: can go from like a ninety three to ninety five fastball,

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Speaker 2: like a ninety six to ninety eight fastball, this becomes

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Speaker 2: a potential like meteoric pitching prospect. I'm not saying that's

492
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Speaker 2: guaranteed in the mass, and even just with the toolbox

493
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Speaker 2: he has right now, because curve ball is also really

494
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Speaker 2: really good and plays super well off that fastball because

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Speaker 2: it just has great vertical vertical drop. This is a

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Speaker 2: guy with a toolbox who is really really really excited.

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Speaker 2: Why he the pole?

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Speaker 1: Yeahhut a pole? What college did he go to? Did

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Speaker 1: you say?

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Speaker 2: I don't even remember.

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Speaker 1: I'll check out right now, I'll look it up real quick. Hold,

502
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Speaker 1: but I just I just saw a website and I

503
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Speaker 1: was like, oh, you wouldn't see Charlotte go Niners. I

504
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Speaker 1: think they're the Niners. Interesting campus. I visited it when

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Speaker 1: I was doing my college thing because it was a

506
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Speaker 1: big South guy and U and C Charlotte. If I'm

507
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Speaker 1: in North Carolina, might as well just stop if we're

508
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Speaker 1: driving through great, great barbecue in North Carolina. Next guy

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Speaker 1: I want to talk about here, aj Ewing This to

510
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Speaker 1: me is like, I'm really excited about this kid. He's

511
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Speaker 1: a smaller guy. I mean, I wish I was six

512
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Speaker 1: feet tall and could say I'm a smaller guy. But

513
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Speaker 1: six feet, one hundred and sixty pounds, left handed swing

514
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Speaker 1: and shortstop from Ohio. Shout out Ohio, James. I know

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Speaker 1: you love that state. But this kid takes war hacks,

516
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Speaker 1: war hacks, a violent, violent left handed swing. I absolutely

517
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Speaker 1: love guys who just like kind of say like fit

518
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Speaker 1: and sell out and they just take absolute war haacks

519
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Speaker 1: like I was saying, really makes the most of his body.

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Speaker 1: I love his swing, like really really clean mechanics for

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Speaker 1: a guy again who takes a violent hack. He was

522
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Speaker 1: committed to the University of Alabama, so he was gonna

523
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Speaker 1: be an SEC baseball guy, which absolutely loved because the

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Speaker 1: SEC is by far the best conference in all of

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Speaker 1: college baseball. And what's really cool is Perfect Game gives

526
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Speaker 1: you some numbers on their website that aren't behind him pay.

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Speaker 1: One of my favorite is swing efficiency, and again this

528
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Speaker 1: kind of builds into his mechanics and why I think

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Speaker 1: this is really cool. Ninety percent swing efficiency according to

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Speaker 1: Perfect Game, which is among some of the highest in

531
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Speaker 1: all of high school prospects. And you can get his

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Speaker 1: exit velos at these events that he went to, and

533
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Speaker 1: he had the same exit vello as Max Clark ninety

534
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Speaker 1: four miles an hour. Max Clark went number three over

535
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Speaker 1: or four over three overall. We had three overall the

536
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Speaker 1: Detroit Tigers in the last or in this draft, and

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Speaker 1: he was one of the most hyph prospects of the

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Speaker 1: entire thing, talked about as an incredible athlete. The physical

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Speaker 1: tools are crazy and aj ewing under the radar. Low

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Speaker 1: Key wasn't even ranked by MLB Pipeline a bunch of

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Speaker 1: other people did. He had the same exit velos as

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Speaker 1: this guy. He also throws ninety from shortstop. Like, I

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Speaker 1: don't really understand how he dropped. The only reason I

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Speaker 1: could figure out maybe is just because people probably thought

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Speaker 1: he's going to go to University of Alabama, and that's

546
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Speaker 1: always still a risk. But this is something you talked

547
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Speaker 1: about with the Mets. We're getting penalized and getting our

548
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Speaker 1: picks pushed back a little bit because we spend so

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Speaker 1: much money. But that's also an advantag for the Mets

550
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Speaker 1: in the draft, is that they will spend the money

551
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Speaker 1: and can get these guys that maybe weren't as likely

552
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Speaker 1: to sign because they needed more money to not go

553
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Speaker 1: to college. Aj Ewing being maybe one of those guys.

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Speaker 2: I also just love conceptually drafting a player from a

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Speaker 2: state like Ohio because you have so much less time

556
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Speaker 2: to play baseball in the state like Ohio compared to

557
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Speaker 2: Eddie State, blow the Mason Dixon Line, Ohio, you have

558
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Speaker 2: maybe four or five months, six if you're really a

559
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Speaker 2: grinder the play outdoor baseball. We're in the South, you

560
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Speaker 2: have twelve months, possibly like eleven even at the minimum

561
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Speaker 2: play outdoor baseball. So it's probably a lot more lumber

562
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Speaker 2: chances for development. There a lot more projection. And something

563
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Speaker 2: else great about aj Ewing and said, you're kind of

564
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Speaker 2: still seeing over these last few years this movement of MLB,

565
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Speaker 2: like away from size and just looking straight at the

566
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Speaker 2: tools and you see the bass speed, to see the

567
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Speaker 2: swing efficiency, you see the raw power. He has a

568
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Speaker 2: plus arm too, and like range that probably could keep

569
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Speaker 2: him as a middle indfield their short stop as long

570
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Speaker 2: as he wants to. And a lot of last smart

571
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Speaker 2: draft people who I followed, they really really really like

572
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Speaker 2: this pick and it really reminded me a lot because

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Speaker 2: also same similar spot in the draft to Jacob Brimer

574
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Speaker 2: last year. We've seen already show power in the Mets

575
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Speaker 2: system in the minor league. Again not not the biggest guy,

576
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Speaker 2: but can mash. It's great. There is a lot, a

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Speaker 2: lot of great stuff for the A j Uing. I love.

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Speaker 2: I love the Mets with this draft strategy, really seemingly

579
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Speaker 2: buying into and we saw us a lobich At Williams

580
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Speaker 2: pick last year too, like buying into the data, taking

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Speaker 2: your shots, and then worry about signing him after yep,

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Speaker 2: one hundred per cent.

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Speaker 1: I mean, the Mets took a ton of pictures in

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Speaker 1: this draft, which we know was like a big thing

585
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Speaker 1: that we wanted, like they need more arms in the system,

586
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Speaker 1: they need more arms down there, so it's good to

587
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Speaker 1: see that they were going after it. Last hitter I'm

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Speaker 1: going to talk about here, Nick Lrusso University of Maryland

589
00:23:31,520 --> 00:23:33,600
Speaker 1: drove in one hundred and five runs last year. One

590
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Speaker 1: hundred and five in college is insane because you play

591
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Speaker 1: like sixty games. The dude is just I mean, he's

592
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Speaker 1: a masher this That guy absolutely rakes the most RBIZ

593
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Speaker 1: in college baseball, tied with Tommy White at LSU, who

594
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Speaker 1: is arguably the best hitter in the entire college game.

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Speaker 1: So really cool that, you know, took a guy that

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Speaker 1: just mashed, like you're like, same thing, Like you look

597
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Speaker 1: at the data, hits the ball, hard, walks, doesn't strike

598
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Speaker 1: out a lot, hits home runs. Things you like to see.

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Speaker 1: Last and final guy will talk about here because you

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Speaker 1: talk about Dan of Brett Banks converted to a reliever

601
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Speaker 1: out of you and see Wilmington, big boy, great stuff

602
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Speaker 1: throws gas.

603
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Speaker 2: Yeah, among the national leaders in college stuff plus converts

604
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Speaker 2: reliever in twenty twenty two, and he was struggling a

605
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Speaker 2: little bit, repeating his mechanics and with command became a

606
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Speaker 2: very good reliever for them. In the past two years.

607
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Speaker 2: He's got again that perfect rising fastball since ninety four

608
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Speaker 2: to ninety seven, that beautiful, beautiful hop carrie and short

609
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Speaker 2: power slider. But the fastball is really the whift pitch,

610
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Speaker 2: which is super interesting to me as a college reliever.

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Speaker 2: And again at the data, people say this is a

612
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Speaker 2: great swing because there's the opportunity here some of the

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Speaker 2: Christian Scott to push either push Brett Banks back to

614
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Speaker 2: being a starter, help him refine his command because a

615
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Speaker 2: big boy just doesn't seem like he really is actually

616
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Speaker 2: using his lower half. And I guess these small schools

617
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Speaker 2: they don't have pitching labs, so it's kind of just

618
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Speaker 2: you know, old hey, you know, use your legs a

619
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Speaker 2: little bit instead of like showing you, like on like

620
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Speaker 2: a really good video, like how you use your legs

621
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Speaker 2: better and how to get more efficient use of your

622
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Speaker 2: hips and turn your body. But he's a guy who

623
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Speaker 2: either could kind of get be fast tracked as a

624
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Speaker 2: reliever or take the slow road come a star there

625
00:25:00,680 --> 00:25:03,639
Speaker 2: again and definitely have a lot of upside just because

626
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Speaker 2: that fastball is what it is. Like, there's a lot

627
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Speaker 2: of like philosophy and play pitcher development that really the

628
00:25:09,720 --> 00:25:13,040
Speaker 2: hardest thing to do is change a fastball shape. So

629
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Speaker 2: when you have this fastball shape to start, you are

630
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Speaker 2: so far ahead of the game and you have such

631
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Speaker 2: high potential and you see that with a guy like

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Speaker 2: Bret Banks me throw as that fastball. And you talked

633
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Speaker 2: about pitching labs too, Austin Chroser. They took out a

634
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Speaker 2: University of Missouri in the fourth round. Missouri is a

635
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Speaker 2: pitching lab school. That's like the first college.

636
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Speaker 1: Team that like embraced any of these analytics and spin

637
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Speaker 1: rates and all that kind of stuff. So keep an

638
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Speaker 1: eye out on him too. If we didn't mention someone,

639
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Speaker 1: it's not that we don't think highly of them. There's

640
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Speaker 1: just not a lot of info on a lot of

641
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Speaker 1: these guys, Like once you get outside the top five rounds,

642
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Speaker 1: it's really difficult to find a lot of stuff. But

643
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Speaker 1: scraping through finding all our stuff with our draft prep

644
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Speaker 1: that I've done for myself, a lot of good players.

645
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Speaker 2: And if you guys want to hear more about these guys,

646
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Speaker 2: definitely check out The Future of Flushing. You guys know

647
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Speaker 2: John Vito, that's their podcast. They're gonna have draft interviews

648
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Speaker 2: with these guys coming very soon, so keep an eye

649
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Speaker 2: out for those.

650
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Speaker 1: Which is also a really good time to bring in

651
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Speaker 1: our boy John, because of course first half estimate is over.

652
00:26:06,560 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: James is gonna be wearing a full jersey, pants, cleats, hat,

653
00:26:09,960 --> 00:26:12,320
Speaker 1: eye black, whatever it is to one of the met

654
00:26:12,359 --> 00:26:14,719
Speaker 1: games on a Sunday. We'll definitely let you guys know.

655
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Speaker 1: We will announce it. We'll make a big deal, so

656
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Speaker 1: you guys can come find him. But John's gonna come

657
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Speaker 1: in here, bring us estimate for the second half? John

658
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Speaker 1: outside today, John, how we feeling?

659
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Speaker 2: Johnny Bahamas?

660
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Speaker 3: It's hot out here? But you know, I don't want

661
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Speaker 3: to wake the baby. So I was like, I have

662
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Speaker 3: one choice. My former studio has turned into her nursery,

663
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Speaker 3: so lost that real estate in the apartment. So yeah,

664
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Speaker 3: I kind of got relegated to the balcony. But it's

665
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Speaker 3: a nice day. How to keep the computer cool because

666
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Speaker 3: if it overheated, there would be no estimate? All right, guys,

667
00:26:49,040 --> 00:26:51,040
Speaker 3: before we get and that's not real quick. I know

668
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Speaker 3: you lot want to do this. I gotta ask you something.

669
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Speaker 3: I don't think you guys brought this up, but it's

670
00:26:56,000 --> 00:26:59,159
Speaker 3: an interesting topic. It's the NBA in season tournament. I

671
00:26:59,200 --> 00:27:02,200
Speaker 3: need your guys on this. What you guys think about

672
00:27:02,240 --> 00:27:04,720
Speaker 3: the concept and if you think that baseball should one

673
00:27:04,800 --> 00:27:05,720
Speaker 3: day try to adopt that.

674
00:27:05,800 --> 00:27:09,639
Speaker 2: Similar I like it for the NBA because I like

675
00:27:09,680 --> 00:27:11,639
Speaker 2: it for the NBA because the NBA regular season, and

676
00:27:11,640 --> 00:27:13,880
Speaker 2: again this is me not really big NBA fan, I'm

677
00:27:13,880 --> 00:27:16,119
Speaker 2: sure not baseball fans will say the same thing about baseball,

678
00:27:16,200 --> 00:27:19,240
Speaker 2: especially with the playoff format. The NBA regular season means

679
00:27:19,359 --> 00:27:21,560
Speaker 2: nothing at all. It's probably the most meaningless thing that

680
00:27:21,600 --> 00:27:23,760
Speaker 2: we have in professional sports in this country. So the

681
00:27:23,800 --> 00:27:25,399
Speaker 2: fact that they're gonna have an nd season tornament with

682
00:27:25,440 --> 00:27:28,080
Speaker 2: these guys are gonna be going hard over December, which

683
00:27:28,080 --> 00:27:31,000
Speaker 2: is also is amazing. This falls like right in the

684
00:27:31,040 --> 00:27:34,119
Speaker 2: week college football ends, which is pretty incredible, and the

685
00:27:34,160 --> 00:27:36,200
Speaker 2: Final Four is gonna be played that weekend after the

686
00:27:36,320 --> 00:27:39,280
Speaker 2: Army Navy game, so that's an amazing thing. And every

687
00:27:39,320 --> 00:27:41,520
Speaker 2: member of the winning team gets five hundred thousand dollars bonus,

688
00:27:41,600 --> 00:27:43,120
Speaker 2: So these guys are gonna be going hard for it.

689
00:27:43,200 --> 00:27:45,879
Speaker 2: So I think all that together means that we're just

690
00:27:45,960 --> 00:27:48,960
Speaker 2: gonna see like highly competitive basketball all the time. We

691
00:27:49,000 --> 00:27:51,200
Speaker 2: don't really see highly competitive basketball. I think that part

692
00:27:51,280 --> 00:27:53,439
Speaker 2: of it is objectively cool, But.

693
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Speaker 1: I see five hundred thousand dollars is a lot of money.

694
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Speaker 1: But like we've seen NBA contracts and like pretty much

695
00:27:59,240 --> 00:28:01,760
Speaker 1: everybody makes like sixteen million dollars a year.

696
00:28:01,760 --> 00:28:04,600
Speaker 2: Now, it's still a lot of money if you're and

697
00:28:04,640 --> 00:28:06,720
Speaker 2: also if these games are happening in Las Vegas, you're

698
00:28:06,720 --> 00:28:10,560
Speaker 2: gonna hand these guys after taxic quarter a million dollars

699
00:28:10,560 --> 00:28:12,000
Speaker 2: in Las Vegas. Like people are gonna be trying to

700
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Speaker 2: win this thing. I think, I.

701
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Speaker 1: Don't know, I still think. I to me, I like

702
00:28:17,359 --> 00:28:20,399
Speaker 1: that the NBA is getting creative, but I think like

703
00:28:20,480 --> 00:28:23,000
Speaker 1: who cares? Like who cares about a midseason tournament? Like

704
00:28:23,000 --> 00:28:24,359
Speaker 1: at the end of the day, everyone still wants to

705
00:28:24,359 --> 00:28:27,280
Speaker 1: win the NBA finals and as soon and I hate

706
00:28:27,280 --> 00:28:29,400
Speaker 1: to be that guy, but as soon as somebody gets

707
00:28:29,480 --> 00:28:32,560
Speaker 1: hurt in that mid season tournament, it's dead. It's over

708
00:28:32,840 --> 00:28:35,720
Speaker 1: because you just risked the entire season for a five

709
00:28:35,800 --> 00:28:38,320
Speaker 1: hundred thousand dollars like pay bump for guys who are

710
00:28:38,320 --> 00:28:40,800
Speaker 1: making like forty million dollars a year. Like fans will

711
00:28:40,840 --> 00:28:43,640
Speaker 1: hate this thing and turn on it immediately. There is

712
00:28:43,720 --> 00:28:46,880
Speaker 1: no chance ever comes to baseball. It will never happen.

713
00:28:47,080 --> 00:28:49,920
Speaker 1: People hate the World Baseball Classic and that thing is

714
00:28:49,960 --> 00:28:52,160
Speaker 1: awesome when the players care about it. The players are

715
00:28:52,200 --> 00:28:55,080
Speaker 1: not gonna give and give a damn about this thing

716
00:28:55,080 --> 00:28:57,080
Speaker 1: in the NBA season at all. I think it's gonna

717
00:28:57,120 --> 00:29:00,280
Speaker 1: be a like two or three year thing and until

718
00:29:00,320 --> 00:29:02,680
Speaker 1: they make a significant change to it, otherwise, I think

719
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Speaker 1: it is a flash in the pan, cool idea that

720
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Speaker 1: will never really pan out whatsoever.

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Speaker 3: Mark, I can't believe that you're saying that this is

722
00:29:10,000 --> 00:29:12,479
Speaker 3: probably the only chance that you're in beloved New York

723
00:29:12,520 --> 00:29:15,040
Speaker 3: Knicks have a chance of raising a banner. So the

724
00:29:15,040 --> 00:29:18,080
Speaker 3: fact that you're you're poop pulling this mid season tournament.

725
00:29:17,720 --> 00:29:21,040
Speaker 1: Dolan's apparently thinking about selling the team. We're not dead yet.

726
00:29:21,080 --> 00:29:22,000
Speaker 1: We're not dead yet.

727
00:29:23,600 --> 00:29:25,800
Speaker 2: I will say I was in Las Vegas last weekend.

728
00:29:25,800 --> 00:29:29,880
Speaker 2: As you guys heard, the sphere is so cool, it's incredible,

729
00:29:29,920 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 2: Like shout out James Dolan. He should really commit every

730
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,320
Speaker 2: single resource he has to building spheres all over the world.

731
00:29:34,360 --> 00:29:35,800
Speaker 2: I heard he wants to build go in London. Now.

732
00:29:36,120 --> 00:29:39,000
Speaker 2: He should really just repurpose as the sphere guy instead

733
00:29:39,000 --> 00:29:40,280
Speaker 2: of the Knicks Rangers and.

734
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Speaker 1: Work on his music too. Work on his music. He's

735
00:29:42,600 --> 00:29:43,600
Speaker 1: got a great music career.

736
00:29:44,120 --> 00:29:46,360
Speaker 2: A straight shot. I mean, if if he committed one

737
00:29:46,400 --> 00:29:48,240
Speaker 2: hundred percent of his energy, the JD is straight shot

738
00:29:48,280 --> 00:29:50,120
Speaker 2: like that that's radio music, Like that's top in the

739
00:29:50,200 --> 00:29:54,920
Speaker 2: charts music like Taylor Swizzo pop music anymore. Yeah, oh

740
00:29:54,960 --> 00:29:56,200
Speaker 2: come on, nothing.

741
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Speaker 3: Well, I see what you guys are getting that. But

742
00:29:59,280 --> 00:30:01,240
Speaker 3: in all serious I do kind of think that this

743
00:30:01,440 --> 00:30:05,040
Speaker 3: concept of the NBA's could have a significant impact on

744
00:30:05,080 --> 00:30:07,520
Speaker 3: American sports moving forward. It might not be this year,

745
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:11,680
Speaker 3: but this also paves the door for international competition. Like

746
00:30:11,880 --> 00:30:15,040
Speaker 3: I see a day where the NBA brings over teams

747
00:30:15,040 --> 00:30:18,240
Speaker 3: from Spain, from Israel, from Turkey, from China, from all

748
00:30:18,240 --> 00:30:21,360
Speaker 3: these other international leagues and put them up up against

749
00:30:21,440 --> 00:30:23,520
Speaker 3: NBA teams and let them compete.

750
00:30:24,000 --> 00:30:24,560
Speaker 2: I think.

751
00:30:25,040 --> 00:30:27,920
Speaker 3: I mean, we've seen Team USA in international play and

752
00:30:27,960 --> 00:30:29,920
Speaker 3: basketball lose, so I don't think it's the worst idea,

753
00:30:30,320 --> 00:30:31,800
Speaker 3: maybe like for.

754
00:30:31,760 --> 00:30:35,680
Speaker 2: The mid season tournaments, or maybe like as novelty preseason tournaments,

755
00:30:35,680 --> 00:30:39,160
Speaker 2: because NBA, as opposed to any American sport, is definitely

756
00:30:39,320 --> 00:30:41,560
Speaker 2: the most global. MLB's working hard to get there, and

757
00:30:41,560 --> 00:30:43,120
Speaker 2: the World Baseball Classic is doing a lot to get

758
00:30:43,120 --> 00:30:45,880
Speaker 2: them there. But the issue with the baseball amidst any

759
00:30:45,960 --> 00:30:48,760
Speaker 2: concept of midseason tournaments just the fact that it's it's

760
00:30:48,800 --> 00:30:52,360
Speaker 2: like these pitchers are on legitimate inningccounts every single season,

761
00:30:52,640 --> 00:30:54,800
Speaker 2: and like we're seeing a guy like Yuri Perez again,

762
00:30:55,280 --> 00:30:56,880
Speaker 2: we saw the Marlins in April. We're not gonna see

763
00:30:56,880 --> 00:30:59,120
Speaker 2: them until last week of September. So some mess fans,

764
00:30:59,120 --> 00:31:00,800
Speaker 2: they might not be that click in the Uri Perez,

765
00:31:00,800 --> 00:31:03,080
Speaker 2: but he's as a twenty year old has become one

766
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,240
Speaker 2: of the most electric pitchers in all Major League Baseball,

767
00:31:05,240 --> 00:31:08,080
Speaker 2: and that team is having their best season in fifteen

768
00:31:08,360 --> 00:31:10,200
Speaker 2: clean years and now more.

769
00:31:10,040 --> 00:31:12,560
Speaker 1: So to history ever.

770
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:17,280
Speaker 2: Yeah, like through at the altar break and they're who

771
00:31:17,400 --> 00:31:19,960
Speaker 2: saw that coming back? No, definitely, no one in this podcast,

772
00:31:20,160 --> 00:31:24,040
Speaker 2: but they're like, you're seeing them shut like shut down

773
00:31:24,160 --> 00:31:27,000
Speaker 2: for what's gonna be probably a month, for weeks, six weeks,

774
00:31:27,360 --> 00:31:29,440
Speaker 2: someone who's become one of the best players in their

775
00:31:29,560 --> 00:31:31,000
Speaker 2: entire team as they're having one of the best seasons

776
00:31:31,080 --> 00:31:34,000
Speaker 2: franchise history. So if that's happening in the games that

777
00:31:34,080 --> 00:31:36,600
Speaker 2: mather because they even as a team that isn't even

778
00:31:36,680 --> 00:31:38,960
Speaker 2: that securely in a playoff spot, feels that's securely about

779
00:31:39,000 --> 00:31:42,120
Speaker 2: their standings and getting themselves to the postseason race. I

780
00:31:42,160 --> 00:31:44,560
Speaker 2: can't even imagine someone being like, yeah, I'm gonna throw,

781
00:31:44,760 --> 00:31:46,000
Speaker 2: I'm gonna use extra innings in.

782
00:31:45,960 --> 00:31:48,080
Speaker 3: These guys, but now let me ask you this question.

783
00:31:48,280 --> 00:31:50,280
Speaker 3: I get what you're saying, but what if and the

784
00:31:50,360 --> 00:31:52,640
Speaker 3: NBA might look into this also, because I mean, the

785
00:31:52,640 --> 00:31:54,960
Speaker 3: sports fan determines what matters what doesn't. Right if we

786
00:31:55,000 --> 00:31:57,840
Speaker 3: want to just make a trophy and shift all of

787
00:31:57,840 --> 00:31:59,760
Speaker 3: our attention to that one and make that the big one,

788
00:32:00,040 --> 00:32:01,760
Speaker 3: and that over time becomes the big one. But what

789
00:32:01,840 --> 00:32:04,880
Speaker 3: if winning one of these mid season tournaments becomes a

790
00:32:04,880 --> 00:32:06,080
Speaker 3: postseason ticket.

791
00:32:06,640 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 2: The other thing I was going to say is that

792
00:32:10,840 --> 00:32:12,880
Speaker 2: I think the NBA is probably moving here eventually, and

793
00:32:12,960 --> 00:32:14,800
Speaker 2: I don't know if MLB will because we're such a

794
00:32:14,800 --> 00:32:17,600
Speaker 2: stat based sports, especially like these volume stats, but that

795
00:32:17,640 --> 00:32:19,920
Speaker 2: could be changing too, the way that we're seeing careers

796
00:32:19,960 --> 00:32:22,560
Speaker 2: change in the home run, the Hall of Fame conversation change.

797
00:32:23,040 --> 00:32:27,080
Speaker 2: If MLB winds up shortening their season eventually, like shortening

798
00:32:27,120 --> 00:32:30,440
Speaker 2: the regular season games, then I could see the the

799
00:32:30,520 --> 00:32:32,920
Speaker 2: inclusion of this kind of midseason tournament playoff ticket or

800
00:32:32,960 --> 00:32:33,960
Speaker 2: not playoff takes a good idea.

801
00:32:34,000 --> 00:32:34,120
Speaker 1: Job.

802
00:32:34,200 --> 00:32:35,120
Speaker 2: You should bring that to the board.

803
00:32:38,960 --> 00:32:41,200
Speaker 3: They might be They might be listening, so who knows.

804
00:32:41,200 --> 00:32:43,360
Speaker 3: Maybe I don't have to, But anyway, it's just a

805
00:32:43,360 --> 00:32:45,440
Speaker 3: really interesting thing. I know we've heard about it for

806
00:32:45,440 --> 00:32:47,960
Speaker 3: a while, and it kind of just snuck onder the

807
00:32:48,040 --> 00:32:51,280
Speaker 3: radar a little bit with All Star weekend, but the

808
00:32:51,360 --> 00:32:53,640
Speaker 3: NBA finally pulled the trigger on it. And I'm fascinated

809
00:32:53,640 --> 00:32:56,320
Speaker 3: by the concept and really curious to see how how

810
00:32:56,320 --> 00:32:58,760
Speaker 3: it plays out and also how it does in markets

811
00:32:58,760 --> 00:33:01,560
Speaker 3: where you know they're look, not all thirty. There's there's

812
00:33:01,560 --> 00:33:04,280
Speaker 3: still thirty NBA teams, right, Yeah, they haven't expanded. Not

813
00:33:04,360 --> 00:33:07,200
Speaker 3: all thirty NBA teams are quote unquote competing this year, right.

814
00:33:07,200 --> 00:33:09,360
Speaker 3: I mean, that's the case in any in any major league,

815
00:33:09,520 --> 00:33:11,600
Speaker 3: you're always gonna have five teams that are looking ahead

816
00:33:11,600 --> 00:33:15,920
Speaker 3: to next year. Does this invigorate the markets where those

817
00:33:15,920 --> 00:33:18,440
Speaker 3: teams are playing? Does this give fans something a root for?

818
00:33:18,880 --> 00:33:21,000
Speaker 3: And if it does, and it's kind of a case study,

819
00:33:21,320 --> 00:33:24,000
Speaker 3: perhaps we see other other leagues follow suit in the future.

820
00:33:24,400 --> 00:33:27,760
Speaker 3: But anyway, enough of that, let's get to estimate. And

821
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Speaker 3: I'm very excited, James. You know when you're do when

822
00:33:29,640 --> 00:33:31,280
Speaker 3: you're click clacking around city field if you.

823
00:33:31,560 --> 00:33:33,480
Speaker 2: Haven't decided, But we gotta We got a couple of

824
00:33:33,480 --> 00:33:35,440
Speaker 2: Sundays coming up. I mean maybe just like I don't know,

825
00:33:35,440 --> 00:33:38,959
Speaker 2: we've got Nationals the thirtieth, We've got.

826
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Speaker 3: I don't think a Sunday is good. I think if

827
00:33:40,560 --> 00:33:42,720
Speaker 3: Friday is good and then you go out after in

828
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Speaker 3: your field.

829
00:33:43,240 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 2: Because I want I want to podcast in the full uniform.

830
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:48,600
Speaker 2: That's kind of the whole point. John, you could there's

831
00:33:48,640 --> 00:33:50,360
Speaker 2: no law saying you can't wear it. Yeah, there is.

832
00:33:50,360 --> 00:33:50,440
Speaker 1: Me.

833
00:33:50,520 --> 00:33:52,760
Speaker 2: I'm not gonna wear it twice. I'm not wearing it twice.

834
00:33:52,760 --> 00:33:54,120
Speaker 2: So you guys, you guys can figure that. If you

835
00:33:54,120 --> 00:33:55,160
Speaker 2: guys think you.

836
00:33:55,240 --> 00:33:56,560
Speaker 3: Just said you want to wear it, you want to

837
00:33:56,560 --> 00:33:58,000
Speaker 3: wear for a podcast, wear for it. But I think

838
00:33:58,040 --> 00:33:59,800
Speaker 3: it'd be a lot of fun if like you went

839
00:33:59,840 --> 00:34:01,840
Speaker 3: to the CA corner after a pig Mets went on

840
00:34:01,880 --> 00:34:04,800
Speaker 3: a Friday night and you're just, you know, rocking.

841
00:34:05,080 --> 00:34:06,560
Speaker 1: I mean you can tell everyone like, yeah, I'm actually

842
00:34:06,560 --> 00:34:06,920
Speaker 1: the bullpenk.

843
00:34:07,040 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 2: I'll tell people in the Bullpenker that.

844
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:10,840
Speaker 3: I mean, tell people your name is Eric Langill.

845
00:34:11,680 --> 00:34:14,120
Speaker 2: A natural progression from podcast to the bullpenk catcher. I mean,

846
00:34:14,160 --> 00:34:16,480
Speaker 2: if you guys think it's funnier, do it on a Friday.

847
00:34:16,480 --> 00:34:17,600
Speaker 2: I'm happy to do it on a Friday. I thought

848
00:34:17,640 --> 00:34:19,520
Speaker 2: it was funnier. I thought it was better content, the content,

849
00:34:19,560 --> 00:34:21,680
Speaker 2: bring working and do it on a Sunday, But I'll

850
00:34:21,760 --> 00:34:24,960
Speaker 2: leave that to the Peanut gallery.

851
00:34:25,080 --> 00:34:27,640
Speaker 3: If and only if you are willing to go out

852
00:34:27,680 --> 00:34:31,360
Speaker 3: afterwards and kind of, you know, paint the town whatever

853
00:34:31,400 --> 00:34:34,320
Speaker 3: color jersey you're wearing, then I think that's corner.

854
00:34:34,400 --> 00:34:35,920
Speaker 2: Then Mark and I and our friends could do our

855
00:34:35,960 --> 00:34:38,200
Speaker 2: classic Guther and l I c and in the full kid,

856
00:34:38,320 --> 00:34:39,879
Speaker 2: I'll have to I'll have to wear the shoes because

857
00:34:39,880 --> 00:34:41,360
Speaker 2: I can't wear the cleats in the bullet in the

858
00:34:41,400 --> 00:34:45,040
Speaker 2: bowling alley. They could be an option. That's not that bad,

859
00:34:45,120 --> 00:34:47,680
Speaker 2: you go, that's a good one. All right.

860
00:34:47,719 --> 00:34:50,759
Speaker 3: Well, we've got some time, but it's time to start

861
00:34:50,800 --> 00:34:53,520
Speaker 3: the second half, So another competition. We have some time

862
00:34:53,560 --> 00:34:55,759
Speaker 3: for you guys to figure out what the uh. I

863
00:34:55,760 --> 00:34:58,759
Speaker 3: don't want to say punishment another show uses that term.

864
00:34:58,800 --> 00:35:00,440
Speaker 3: But what the what the loser is gonna have to do?

865
00:35:00,560 --> 00:35:03,960
Speaker 3: So we're gonna kick it off by paying homage to

866
00:35:04,080 --> 00:35:07,760
Speaker 3: some great leadoff hitters, Mookie Bets and Brandon Nemo, probably

867
00:35:07,800 --> 00:35:10,520
Speaker 3: the best two lead off hitters in the sport. Mookie

868
00:35:10,520 --> 00:35:13,280
Speaker 3: Bets hit ten leadoff home runs in the first half.

869
00:35:13,600 --> 00:35:16,120
Speaker 3: He joined Bobby Bonds as the only players to ever

870
00:35:16,200 --> 00:35:19,160
Speaker 3: do that in Major League history, and We've talked much

871
00:35:19,160 --> 00:35:21,839
Speaker 3: about Brandon Nemo, the power surgey has been on. So

872
00:35:22,280 --> 00:35:25,280
Speaker 3: for this estimate, I want to focus on leadoff hitters,

873
00:35:25,280 --> 00:35:27,480
Speaker 3: not just the games, but leading off innings. I want

874
00:35:27,520 --> 00:35:30,279
Speaker 3: you guys to tell me how many total bases will

875
00:35:30,320 --> 00:35:34,320
Speaker 3: guys accumulate throughout the three game series leading off innings.

876
00:35:34,800 --> 00:35:36,799
Speaker 1: That's like, this is a possible number.

877
00:35:36,920 --> 00:35:38,200
Speaker 3: There's going to be nine in each.

878
00:35:38,040 --> 00:35:40,120
Speaker 2: Game, John, we gotta do a lot of thinking though.

879
00:35:40,920 --> 00:35:41,840
Speaker 1: Yeah, there's gonna be area.

880
00:35:42,440 --> 00:35:44,080
Speaker 3: When the variation is good, it makes it a whole

881
00:35:44,480 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 3: in each game, right, Yes, nine nine per game?

882
00:35:47,960 --> 00:35:50,680
Speaker 2: Fifty four, it can be really fun, Master John Doo

883
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:56,640
Speaker 2: on Sunday, fifty four could be good? Could Yeah, that's

884
00:35:56,640 --> 00:36:01,480
Speaker 2: win a couple of games. No fifty two, No bottom nine,

885
00:36:01,520 --> 00:36:02,640
Speaker 2: possibly so many.

886
00:36:03,280 --> 00:36:05,080
Speaker 1: I don't even I don't even have a clue what

887
00:36:05,160 --> 00:36:07,760
Speaker 1: could be a good I don't even have a clue

888
00:36:07,840 --> 00:36:08,239
Speaker 1: what could be.

889
00:36:08,360 --> 00:36:09,600
Speaker 3: Got to come out of the gate swinging?

890
00:36:09,680 --> 00:36:10,560
Speaker 2: Yeah, I think I think we gotta.

891
00:36:10,560 --> 00:36:12,520
Speaker 1: I think we gotta just just just just I got

892
00:36:12,600 --> 00:36:15,400
Speaker 1: numbers out, I got my number, I got my number.

893
00:36:16,200 --> 00:36:19,799
Speaker 2: All right, I'm gonna I'm gonna. I guess toll bases

894
00:36:19,800 --> 00:36:22,840
Speaker 2: doesn't include walks correct, correct.

895
00:36:23,080 --> 00:36:26,640
Speaker 3: No, it's just not or hit batsman only only balls put.

896
00:36:26,440 --> 00:36:29,920
Speaker 2: In critical for NEMO in years past. All right, Mike,

897
00:36:29,920 --> 00:36:30,560
Speaker 2: you got a number.

898
00:36:31,080 --> 00:36:36,280
Speaker 1: Yeah, I got a number. Ready, Yeah, counting down, John.

899
00:36:38,400 --> 00:36:45,440
Speaker 3: Alright, here we go, three, four, Oh, okay, all right.

900
00:36:46,000 --> 00:36:48,160
Speaker 3: Even when I even when I thought there was a

901
00:36:48,239 --> 00:36:50,920
Speaker 3: really wide range of outcomes that you guys are gonna guess,

902
00:36:51,120 --> 00:36:54,839
Speaker 3: you guys still manage to have a possible tie, right, yeah,

903
00:36:54,840 --> 00:36:55,760
Speaker 3: there can be a tie.

904
00:36:56,000 --> 00:36:58,279
Speaker 2: No, even different.

905
00:36:58,280 --> 00:37:01,040
Speaker 3: You guys even numbers. Yeah, I can't be right, that's right.

906
00:37:01,080 --> 00:37:04,440
Speaker 3: All right, Well, that's good. Well I'll be monitoring and

907
00:37:04,480 --> 00:37:07,080
Speaker 3: we'll be back on Sunday in person, right first time again.

908
00:37:07,560 --> 00:37:09,759
Speaker 1: You're back in the stadium with the boys, so John

909
00:37:09,800 --> 00:37:13,040
Speaker 1: will see on Sunday. Thanks for helping us out and

910
00:37:13,160 --> 00:37:16,080
Speaker 1: enjoy time with your dog piece out all right, see ya.

911
00:37:16,440 --> 00:37:18,960
Speaker 1: Let's go ahead and finish up this Dodgers preview here

912
00:37:18,960 --> 00:37:22,040
Speaker 1: for this episode of the Mess Up Podcast. Dodgers are good.

913
00:37:22,160 --> 00:37:24,879
Speaker 1: They did kind of like struggle coming into the All

914
00:37:24,920 --> 00:37:27,560
Speaker 1: Star break, but I mean they're fifty one to thirty eight.

915
00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:29,919
Speaker 1: They're back in first place in the National National League

916
00:37:29,960 --> 00:37:32,719
Speaker 1: West thanks to us knocking off the Diamondbacks a little

917
00:37:32,719 --> 00:37:36,240
Speaker 1: bit for them. So I mean they're just they're loaded.

918
00:37:36,280 --> 00:37:39,239
Speaker 1: Freddie Freeman is like just and Mookie Bets are like

919
00:37:39,239 --> 00:37:42,440
Speaker 1: two of the ten best players in baseball. They're ridiculous.

920
00:37:42,640 --> 00:37:46,799
Speaker 1: Will Smith is arguably the best catcher in baseball. Maximunts

921
00:37:46,800 --> 00:37:48,960
Speaker 1: he still hits a ton of home runs. Jad Martinez

922
00:37:49,040 --> 00:37:51,600
Speaker 1: is completely back. I mean, what is there to not

923
00:37:51,760 --> 00:37:53,320
Speaker 1: like about the Dodgers? Is there anything?

924
00:37:54,560 --> 00:37:56,120
Speaker 2: I mean, there's one thing for sure, I definitely want

925
00:37:56,160 --> 00:37:57,839
Speaker 2: to give Roses all these hitters in a little bit.

926
00:37:57,960 --> 00:38:00,960
Speaker 2: But with Klean Kershaw going on the IA just before

927
00:38:01,000 --> 00:38:03,600
Speaker 2: the also break, that meant that all five of the

928
00:38:03,640 --> 00:38:07,399
Speaker 2: Dodgers opening day starters, all five members of Dodgers opening

929
00:38:07,440 --> 00:38:09,400
Speaker 2: dairy rotation, we'll spend time in the IL, along with

930
00:38:09,440 --> 00:38:12,440
Speaker 2: Tony Gonsolin and Walker Bruler missed the whole season. So

931
00:38:12,480 --> 00:38:15,320
Speaker 2: that's basically the seven top pitchers in the Dodgers organization

932
00:38:15,640 --> 00:38:17,319
Speaker 2: spend time in the IL. And that's just the fact

933
00:38:17,320 --> 00:38:19,520
Speaker 2: they're having such a good year is such a such

934
00:38:19,520 --> 00:38:22,080
Speaker 2: hats off for their organizational development, their pitching staff. The

935
00:38:22,080 --> 00:38:24,520
Speaker 2: fact that they've had Emmachien and Bobby Miller come up

936
00:38:24,520 --> 00:38:27,960
Speaker 2: and give huge huge, huge, huge contributions. Ryan Pepio for

937
00:38:28,360 --> 00:38:29,840
Speaker 2: a little bit before he also went on the IL,

938
00:38:29,840 --> 00:38:31,480
Speaker 2: though he won the Ale before seen start. But last year.

939
00:38:31,480 --> 00:38:34,120
Speaker 2: It doesn't time they have such deep pitching in their

940
00:38:34,120 --> 00:38:36,080
Speaker 2: minor leagues. Even a guy like Gavin Stone, some people

941
00:38:36,080 --> 00:38:38,120
Speaker 2: thought was a super prospect, who Mark always knows that

942
00:38:38,160 --> 00:38:40,440
Speaker 2: I knew was not the whole time because he was

943
00:38:40,440 --> 00:38:42,640
Speaker 2: a change up guy. He came up, he pitched poorly

944
00:38:42,680 --> 00:38:44,040
Speaker 2: for a while, he did come up and pitch like

945
00:38:44,080 --> 00:38:46,400
Speaker 2: they just have guys and guys and guys in never ends.

946
00:38:46,520 --> 00:38:49,960
Speaker 2: Dodgers double a rotation would probably be a top fifteen

947
00:38:50,040 --> 00:38:52,879
Speaker 2: rotation in Major League Baseball. Like, that's how deep this

948
00:38:53,000 --> 00:38:55,600
Speaker 2: organizational well runs. And the fact that they're getting by

949
00:38:56,480 --> 00:38:58,680
Speaker 2: where at times their six top pitchers to start the

950
00:38:58,680 --> 00:39:01,279
Speaker 2: season have spent time in the IL. You there's so

951
00:39:01,560 --> 00:39:04,200
Speaker 2: much credit due to the way this organization scouts had

952
00:39:04,239 --> 00:39:07,640
Speaker 2: develops their players. It's it's really a modern baseball marvel.

953
00:39:08,680 --> 00:39:10,520
Speaker 1: Yeah. I mean, you've you've heard Steve Cohen say like,

954
00:39:10,560 --> 00:39:12,839
Speaker 1: we want to be like the Dodgers East like, which

955
00:39:12,880 --> 00:39:16,480
Speaker 1: is like imunit. It's a very very true, true fact.

956
00:39:17,000 --> 00:39:19,400
Speaker 1: It's gonna be. It's gonna be a tough series. The

957
00:39:19,440 --> 00:39:21,799
Speaker 1: Dodgers are really good. We did get their number last year.

958
00:39:22,160 --> 00:39:23,839
Speaker 1: We know things are a little bit different, but yeah,

959
00:39:23,880 --> 00:39:27,719
Speaker 1: this this lineup's loaded. This team's loaded. They're they're just

960
00:39:27,800 --> 00:39:30,279
Speaker 1: so good top to bottom. It's it's pretty ridiculous.

961
00:39:31,680 --> 00:39:33,840
Speaker 2: Yeah, Will Smith, you mentioned how good he is before.

962
00:39:33,880 --> 00:39:36,160
Speaker 2: He's walked more than he has struck out so far

963
00:39:36,200 --> 00:39:39,040
Speaker 2: this season, which is with an ISO over two hundred

964
00:39:39,080 --> 00:39:41,279
Speaker 2: thirteen homers in the first half, only playing sixty six

965
00:39:41,320 --> 00:39:43,960
Speaker 2: games as the catcher, So at one hundred sixty two

966
00:39:43,960 --> 00:39:46,480
Speaker 2: game pace. That iss like, oh, that's like thirty seven

967
00:39:46,520 --> 00:39:48,680
Speaker 2: homers with more walks and strikeouts. Kind of ridiculous.

968
00:39:48,680 --> 00:39:49,280
Speaker 1: Mookie Bets.

969
00:39:49,600 --> 00:39:51,920
Speaker 2: People were kind of got down on Mookie Bets for

970
00:39:51,920 --> 00:39:53,759
Speaker 2: no good reason over the last few years. He was

971
00:39:53,760 --> 00:39:57,120
Speaker 2: still consistently at worst. In the last five years, Mookie

972
00:39:57,120 --> 00:39:59,040
Speaker 2: Bets was at worst thirty percent better the league average

973
00:39:59,040 --> 00:40:01,920
Speaker 2: with his bat. Some back issues, he doubts, some hitpie issues.

974
00:40:02,160 --> 00:40:04,520
Speaker 2: Those seem far behind him right now because he has

975
00:40:04,600 --> 00:40:07,080
Speaker 2: the best isolated slug his entire career over three hundred.

976
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:10,000
Speaker 2: Right now, he is only six home runs away from

977
00:40:10,040 --> 00:40:11,680
Speaker 2: his career high that he sent two thousand and eight,

978
00:40:11,719 --> 00:40:13,200
Speaker 2: when he had one of the best seasons in modern

979
00:40:13,280 --> 00:40:17,160
Speaker 2: baseball history, a ten win season. He is also doing

980
00:40:17,200 --> 00:40:20,480
Speaker 2: that while playing middle infield. He's playing middle infield. Guys.

981
00:40:20,520 --> 00:40:22,000
Speaker 2: Mookie Best, at thirty years old, one of the best

982
00:40:22,040 --> 00:40:23,840
Speaker 2: outfielders in base one of the best players in baseball,

983
00:40:23,840 --> 00:40:26,239
Speaker 2: has loged thirty eight games combined to shortstop a second

984
00:40:26,280 --> 00:40:28,800
Speaker 2: base for one of the teams the best records in naturally.

985
00:40:29,080 --> 00:40:31,080
Speaker 2: Think about that for a second. Think about that ability

986
00:40:31,080 --> 00:40:32,440
Speaker 2: to adjust on the fly. Think about how good of

987
00:40:32,440 --> 00:40:34,160
Speaker 2: an athlete you are. Think about how good of a

988
00:40:34,160 --> 00:40:36,080
Speaker 2: teammate you are to be Like, I'm gonna play a

989
00:40:36,080 --> 00:40:38,480
Speaker 2: position I have never played as a major leaguer. I'm

990
00:40:38,480 --> 00:40:40,080
Speaker 2: gonna pay two position in there plays a major league and

991
00:40:40,080 --> 00:40:41,759
Speaker 2: I'm gonna play them well. And theod and Nelson I'm

992
00:40:41,760 --> 00:40:43,120
Speaker 2: gonna do. I'm gonna have the best power out of

993
00:40:43,239 --> 00:40:45,200
Speaker 2: my entire career at thirty years old, and I'm still

994
00:40:45,200 --> 00:40:46,480
Speaker 2: five nine hundred and eighty pounds.

995
00:40:46,480 --> 00:40:46,759
Speaker 1: He is.

996
00:40:46,800 --> 00:40:48,879
Speaker 2: I love Mookie Best so much. He is so damn good.

997
00:40:49,000 --> 00:40:50,799
Speaker 2: You can look at a guy like JJ Martinez, who

998
00:40:50,880 --> 00:40:53,319
Speaker 2: it seemed seemed pretty dead last few years he got

999
00:40:53,360 --> 00:40:55,640
Speaker 2: he lost his hitting coach in Boston, came back to

1000
00:40:55,640 --> 00:40:57,759
Speaker 2: the Dodgers, found his hitting coach again, seven in the

1001
00:40:57,840 --> 00:41:00,560
Speaker 2: league in barrels for play with peers like, it's ridiculous

1002
00:41:00,640 --> 00:41:02,000
Speaker 2: what the team is able to do with their major

1003
00:41:02,080 --> 00:41:04,799
Speaker 2: league player development. It's a little bit stupid. And the

1004
00:41:04,800 --> 00:41:06,680
Speaker 2: fact that they have been this good for this long

1005
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:08,960
Speaker 2: and still have less than thirty percent of a World

1006
00:41:09,040 --> 00:41:12,520
Speaker 2: Series is so freaking funny. Even Corey Seeger admitted on

1007
00:41:12,920 --> 00:41:14,960
Speaker 2: the end on an interview a few weeks ago that

1008
00:41:15,000 --> 00:41:17,239
Speaker 2: he wants to win a real World Series. This Dodgers team,

1009
00:41:17,280 --> 00:41:19,160
Speaker 2: as much as they do a year over year, the output,

1010
00:41:19,400 --> 00:41:22,080
Speaker 2: the talent, the scouting, the player development, they still can't

1011
00:41:22,080 --> 00:41:24,560
Speaker 2: win a World Series. It's hilariously funny because they always

1012
00:41:24,560 --> 00:41:26,840
Speaker 2: get their roses. They deserve them all, but it's just

1013
00:41:26,920 --> 00:41:28,759
Speaker 2: it's such a such a fine dichotomy.

1014
00:41:29,360 --> 00:41:31,319
Speaker 1: Shout out Cory Seger. He even said it wasn't a

1015
00:41:31,320 --> 00:41:33,839
Speaker 1: real World Series in twenty twenty, he said, I want

1016
00:41:33,840 --> 00:41:35,879
Speaker 1: to win a real World Series with the Rangers twenty

1017
00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,880
Speaker 1: twenty was that didn't really count, So they haven't won

1018
00:41:38,920 --> 00:41:42,359
Speaker 1: a real World series still in forever, which I love.

1019
00:41:42,760 --> 00:41:45,000
Speaker 1: Shout out Corey Seeger. What a dog for saying that

1020
00:41:45,040 --> 00:41:46,880
Speaker 1: He'll always have a special place in my heart for

1021
00:41:46,920 --> 00:41:49,160
Speaker 1: saying he won the World Series. MVP said, it wasn't

1022
00:41:49,160 --> 00:41:52,399
Speaker 1: a real World Series. So this team's really good. Met's

1023
00:41:52,440 --> 00:41:54,200
Speaker 1: we're playing good baseball going into the break, Like if

1024
00:41:54,239 --> 00:41:56,520
Speaker 1: they just have a ball break here or there against

1025
00:41:56,520 --> 00:41:58,600
Speaker 1: the Padres, they win that series. All of a sudden,

1026
00:41:58,640 --> 00:42:01,239
Speaker 1: you're like, oh my goodness, this seems coming in hot.

1027
00:42:01,280 --> 00:42:05,560
Speaker 1: This team has been playing good baseball. Nimo Lindor, Alonso Alvarez,

1028
00:42:05,640 --> 00:42:07,720
Speaker 1: like all the guys that you know, just keep swinging

1029
00:42:07,719 --> 00:42:10,319
Speaker 1: the bat. Well, Tommy fam hopefully he's feeling better after

1030
00:42:10,320 --> 00:42:12,759
Speaker 1: the injury, hopefully nothing too serious. And just need some

1031
00:42:12,800 --> 00:42:14,799
Speaker 1: guys to step up too. Like McNeil had a bit

1032
00:42:14,800 --> 00:42:16,719
Speaker 1: of a down first half. The pitching hasn't been as

1033
00:42:16,719 --> 00:42:19,239
Speaker 1: consistent as we had hoped. All those guys play better,

1034
00:42:19,280 --> 00:42:20,600
Speaker 1: you can all of a sudden start to see the

1035
00:42:20,640 --> 00:42:22,759
Speaker 1: Mets maybe break off some win streaks again, and all

1036
00:42:22,760 --> 00:42:24,800
Speaker 1: of a sudden you're starting to compete. There's not a

1037
00:42:24,840 --> 00:42:27,359
Speaker 1: lot of games left. There are how many games left?

1038
00:42:27,400 --> 00:42:30,160
Speaker 1: I mean the Mets are what's their record again? Right now?

1039
00:42:30,200 --> 00:42:32,640
Speaker 1: Do you have it off the top of your head.

1040
00:42:32,840 --> 00:42:34,680
Speaker 2: No, but just in general to kind of like make

1041
00:42:34,719 --> 00:42:37,600
Speaker 2: this a little tighter for everybody. We have five series

1042
00:42:37,640 --> 00:42:41,040
Speaker 2: basically fifteen games before the trade deadline. Yeah, it's fifteen

1043
00:42:41,040 --> 00:42:43,040
Speaker 2: game before trade deadline. The deadline is August first, I

1044
00:42:43,080 --> 00:42:44,480
Speaker 2: believe this year, and we have an eight ten game

1045
00:42:44,520 --> 00:42:47,720
Speaker 2: that night, So fifteen games still the trade deadline. Probably

1046
00:42:47,719 --> 00:42:50,160
Speaker 2: gotta go worse. Nine and six, nine and six, keep

1047
00:42:50,200 --> 00:42:51,640
Speaker 2: this thing, keep this thing going, keep the part of

1048
00:42:51,640 --> 00:42:54,680
Speaker 2: the rocket this year. And we're getting pitching schedules set

1049
00:42:54,680 --> 00:42:56,320
Speaker 2: for this Dodger series. Like I said, Dodgers have a

1050
00:42:56,320 --> 00:42:58,040
Speaker 2: lot of injuries, so their schedule is not set right now.

1051
00:42:58,080 --> 00:42:59,480
Speaker 2: I don't even think they know who's gonna be pitching

1052
00:42:59,480 --> 00:43:01,399
Speaker 2: this series. Again, the Mets just flu your reus Friday

1053
00:43:01,480 --> 00:43:04,080
Speaker 2: Night against Justin Verlander. Also, it's going to be an

1054
00:43:04,120 --> 00:43:06,960
Speaker 2: Apple TV game, so shout out Wayneer and Dazzo gonna

1055
00:43:06,960 --> 00:43:08,520
Speaker 2: be back in the building. We'd love to, let's say,

1056
00:43:08,520 --> 00:43:11,160
Speaker 2: how to our friend Wayne Code I sanga seven o'clock

1057
00:43:11,239 --> 00:43:13,759
Speaker 2: Fox game on Saturday. So two national TV games for

1058
00:43:13,840 --> 00:43:16,400
Speaker 2: you guys on Friday and Saday. The Apple TV. We

1059
00:43:16,440 --> 00:43:18,279
Speaker 2: know sometimes very hard for us to access these games.

1060
00:43:18,280 --> 00:43:19,600
Speaker 2: But you know, we got Howie Rose and the radio,

1061
00:43:19,640 --> 00:43:21,480
Speaker 2: so no big deal there. And then Max Scharz, theer

1062
00:43:21,520 --> 00:43:22,960
Speaker 2: for the Sunday Matt n will be back in the

1063
00:43:23,000 --> 00:43:25,680
Speaker 2: ballpark for that one. So got the three guys. Is

1064
00:43:25,719 --> 00:43:27,520
Speaker 2: it gotta play some good base part right now, keep

1065
00:43:27,520 --> 00:43:28,840
Speaker 2: this thing going, get.

1066
00:43:28,680 --> 00:43:31,080
Speaker 1: Out to the ballpark. Hopefully we'll see you guys there.

1067
00:43:31,360 --> 00:43:33,319
Speaker 1: I think that's pretty much it for the preview, pretty

1068
00:43:33,360 --> 00:43:35,200
Speaker 1: much it for this episode that Mets the podcast. I

1069
00:43:35,200 --> 00:43:37,600
Speaker 1: can't think of anything else here, so let's just go

1070
00:43:37,640 --> 00:43:39,400
Speaker 1: ahead and wrap it up. Put a nice bow on this.

1071
00:43:39,640 --> 00:43:41,560
Speaker 1: Thank you guys so much for listening and watching. You

1072
00:43:41,600 --> 00:43:43,759
Speaker 1: know where to follow us all our social media at

1073
00:43:43,800 --> 00:43:46,160
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1074
00:43:46,200 --> 00:43:48,480
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1075
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