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Speaker 1: doing fine, and let's go get them in Old New Orleans. Yes,

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Speaker 1: need to hear that from me this morning about how

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Speaker 1: So it's a coordinated effort. But we think that with

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Speaker 1: and that's that's going to help us out a lot.

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Speaker 1: We've switched some guys position wise in the offensive line

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Speaker 1: play well offensively. That was a good on field description.

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Speaker 1: Thank you for that. Of course, off the field, we

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Speaker 1: of just take us through that transition, Jerry, and what

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Speaker 1: he'll maintain his responsibilities as defensive coordinator as well. Yes

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Speaker 1: any shortage of coaches out here, Jerry. Quite a bit

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Speaker 1: We're very proud of the grades we get, the recognition

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Speaker 1: And it was anything but seamless and it was equitable.

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Speaker 1: That past interference has been on the books for years

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Speaker 1: you got in the game. Yes, absolutely, Jerry, how do

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