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Speaker 1: The one Bills Live presented by Kaleida Health. It is

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Speaker 1: game week. Man, if we waited for this, it is

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Speaker 1: It is no longer summer as far as I am concerned,

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Speaker 1: a firm signal for that football season's here. Yeah, we

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Speaker 1: are in full blown football season, elite season for many

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Speaker 1: of us here in Western New York. Chris Brown and

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Speaker 1: Chris Drapasso joining me, filling in for Steve, who's a

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Speaker 1: little under the weather today. So we hope you're feeling better.

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Speaker 1: Steve a reno soon and thank you for getting in

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Speaker 1: here on short notice. I know it is not around

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Speaker 1: before we dive headlong into NFL football, which we will

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Speaker 1: do in short order. This past weekend was Week one

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Speaker 1: and a FULD College slate after Week zero. What kind

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Speaker 2: is in college football. Now, Okay, there can be guys

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Speaker 2: They transferred to a lesser school, they become the starter.

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Speaker 2: You saw North Dakota State against Colorado. They were the

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Speaker 1: So many like that Idaho Oregon game. I missed that

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Speaker 2: It was close into Oregon pulled away and ended up

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Speaker 1: A lot more parody.

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Speaker 2: And from a draft angle, we don't really have the

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Speaker 2: On the other side, Grant Newsomer from LSU played of Meyer.

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Speaker 1: And to see some of these smaller programs give some

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Speaker 1: They just ran the tar out of the ball. Bill

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Speaker 2: And to me, that was again another sign of the

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Speaker 1: And I'm just watching the game. Georgia has an elite

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Speaker 2: Yeah, I think it was a great opening week for

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Speaker 1: I think that makes it a lot. Yeah, it's like

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Speaker 1: But let's get to around the NFL, which is presented

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Speaker 1: by Kalida Health, the official healthcare system of the Buffalo Bills,

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Speaker 1: And we're gonna begin with a Bills note. Field Yates,

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Speaker 1: our good friend from ESPN, pretty much put this note

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Speaker 1: the contracts of Ajpiness and Daikwon Jones to create a

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Speaker 1: As we told you last week, after final rosters are set,

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Speaker 1: So they lose. Brice gave up a third round pick,

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Speaker 2: They were like, we're either going to sign Bryce off

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Speaker 2: They'll just bring Hassan Reddick. He'll be just about as good.

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Speaker 2: He'll play more snaps and really rotate but now he's

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Speaker 1: I don't know how that computed for the Jets. I'm

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Speaker 1: And now the prospect exists that they might have to

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Speaker 2: Reddick is nowhere to be found.

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Speaker 1: It'll be interesting to see if that one ever gets resolved.

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Speaker 1: One hold in remaining in Jamar Chase. He has two

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Speaker 1: years left on his contract but wants a new deal.

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Speaker 1: Still not practicing, and his head coach, Zach Taylor is

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Speaker 1: sounding less and less optimistic that they'll have him for

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Speaker 1: their Week one opener against New England that is a

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Speaker 1: home game. Coach Zach Taylor said Chase remain day to

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Speaker 1: day as he continues not to practice and awaits the

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Speaker 1: status of a contract extension. Monday was the team's last

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Speaker 1: practice before the game week officially begins. Taylor said there

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Speaker 1: will be contingencies to account for the fluid situation involving

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Speaker 1: him Chase. He said, there's always injuries and things you

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Speaker 1: have to deal with, so will adapt to him. Basically,

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Speaker 1: all he did in Monday's practice was shag balls for

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Speaker 1: the receivers.

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Speaker 3: Coach.

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Speaker 1: That's all he did as a whole in so he's

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Speaker 1: not practicing, and I gotta tell you, just knowing Mike

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Speaker 1: Brown's history as owner of the Bengals, Chase is barking

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Speaker 1: up the wrong tree thinking he's getting a new deal

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Speaker 1: with two years left on his existing one. They didn't

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Speaker 1: give one to t Higgins after a fifty year option.

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Speaker 1: I mean, after the game, a fifty year option. They said, yeah,

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Speaker 1: well you're gonna And the whole reason they're not signing

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Speaker 1: Higgins to a long term deal is because they're gonna

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Speaker 1: sign you, Jamar. And look, I understand the market got

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Speaker 1: reset this offseason and you probably feel like you're being

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Speaker 1: paid way below your market value. I totally get it.

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Speaker 1: Mike Brown is gonna play hardball. This is not gonna

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Speaker 1: end well. I'm just I'm just gonna say it right now.

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Speaker 1: If he thinks he's getting thirty million from the Bengals

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Speaker 1: a year early, no way, I don't think it's happening.

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Speaker 2: And how about two that Jamar sacent Jamar Chase has said,

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Speaker 2: and I don't know if this was tongue in cheek,

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Speaker 2: probably wasn't, that he wants one penny more than his

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Speaker 2: former LSU teammate Justin Jefferson. And that's thirty five million.

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Speaker 2: That the most that any wide receiver has in his contract,

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Speaker 2: one hundred and ten million total guaranteed eighty eight million,

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Speaker 2: fully guaranteed, the highest across the board at wide receiver.

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Speaker 2: And we'd all agree that probably is fair for Justin

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Speaker 2: Jefferson given his production in age. That certainly, like you said,

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Speaker 2: it's not gonna be early from Mike Brown. And is

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Speaker 2: he going to reset the market there after giving Joe

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Speaker 2: Burrow a gargantuan deal. Probably not. So this is one

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Speaker 2: that I think we have to really pay close attention to.

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Speaker 2: We saw we're kind of bored or annoyed by the

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Speaker 2: brandan Ayuk situation in San Francisco. This one does have

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Speaker 2: the I guess, potential to become very contentious as he

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Speaker 2: goes on.

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Speaker 1: I don't see a happy ending there, at least the

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Speaker 1: one Jamar Chase is hoping for one other bit of

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Speaker 1: forty nine ers And it was really scary story over

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Speaker 1: the weekend. Their rookie receiver Ricky Pearsall is now on

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Speaker 1: the reserve non football injury list two days after he

488
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Speaker 1: was shot in the chest during a robbery attempt in

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Speaker 1: San Francisco, so he's going to miss at least the

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Speaker 1: first four games. But some seventeen year old kid tried

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Speaker 1: to rob him out by Union Square Broadala Cisco, and

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Speaker 1: there was a battle over the handgun that the robber produced,

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Speaker 1: and Ricky was wrestling with him with the handgun and

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Speaker 1: it went off more than once. One hit the suspect.

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Speaker 1: The other fortunately hit pearce All in the chest and

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Speaker 1: did not hit any vital organs miraculously because he was

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Speaker 1: only in the hospital for a night, was in stable

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Speaker 1: condition and they released him and was considered to be

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Speaker 1: in fair condition as of Sunday morning, and I mean

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Speaker 1: getting out twenty four hours after the shooting, like fortunate,

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Speaker 1: beyond belief. And the only reason we know that no

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Speaker 1: vital organs were hit was because that's what his mom

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Speaker 1: put out on social media, and we're look, we're happy

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Speaker 1: to have that kind of news. It's good news. So

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Speaker 1: he'll be recovering the first month of the season for

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Speaker 1: at least four games to let the hole in his

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Speaker 1: chest heal up. Essentially seriously, how it didn't hit alung,

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Speaker 1: his heart or anything else that's important in there is liver.

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Speaker 1: I mean, yeah, incredible, really really fortunate to hear very scared.

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Speaker 1: Was scary man, scary situation for surely crazy. Some lighter notes,

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Speaker 1: Cleveland Brown Stadium is going to be called Huntington Bank

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Speaker 1: Field for the foreseeable future after the club and the

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Speaker 1: banking institutionaries a twenty year agreement that includes naming rights

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Speaker 1: of the stadium. So get used to that. Every year

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Speaker 1: it seems like there's a new name on a stadium

516
00:27:18,960 --> 00:27:21,080
Speaker 1: somewhere and you got to keep track, or you're like,

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Speaker 1: where are they playing? I don't know where that stadium is.

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Speaker 1: That's another one, so be aware of that. And then

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Speaker 1: the New York Giants. As we know, they're in their

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Speaker 1: one hundredth season, so there's a lot of celebratory stuff

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Speaker 1: going on with this, and they had an independent panel

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Speaker 1: determine their top ten players in their club's history. Ten

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Speaker 1: down to one. Okay, a lot of guys in the

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Speaker 1: fifties and sixties NFL championship years for them, as you

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Speaker 1: would expect. Andy Robistelli one of those. Sam Huff one

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Speaker 1: of those at eight, Eli Manning seven, Harry Carson six,

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Speaker 1: Elmlin Tunnel another guy in the fifties and sixties. Five,

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Speaker 1: Michael Strahan four, Frank Gifford three, Mel High another old timer,

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Speaker 1: two Roosevelt Brown another old timer, and number one Lawrence Taylor.

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Speaker 1: I don't have any debate about number one. It's Lawrence Taylor. Yes,

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Speaker 1: I watched that guy destroy offensive football teams by himself.

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Speaker 1: The interesting one for me was Phil Simms was number

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Speaker 1: eleven and Eli Manning was number eight. I know he

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Speaker 1: won two Super Bowl titles and Phil Simms technically only

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Speaker 1: won one because he was injured for the second Super

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Speaker 1: Bowl title that Jeff Hostedler won with the Giants as

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Speaker 1: his backup. I am old enough to have seen most

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Speaker 1: of Phil Simms career. I would take Phil Sims over

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Speaker 1: Eli Manning.

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Speaker 2: Eli Manning thing is so fascinating. I think we're going

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Speaker 2: to talk about him when it comes to Hall of

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Speaker 2: Fame debates that it's yes, you cannot underrate winning a

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Speaker 2: Super Bowl, but what you just pointed out, like Eli

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Speaker 2: Manning was kind of like a middle of the road.

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Speaker 1: Oh, he's kind of good. And then some ugly games.

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Speaker 2: Yeah, two hot runs in the playoffs, mostly buoyed ish

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Speaker 2: by the defense, played great against the Patriots in both

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Speaker 2: of those Super Bowls. But I think it kind of

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Speaker 2: has elevated him to a tier like here in the

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Speaker 2: top ten of the Giants all time and in the

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Speaker 2: annals of quarterbacks in NFL history, a lot higher than

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Speaker 2: where to me watching his career, where he really should be.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I just I don't know. You can call me

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Speaker 1: an Eli Manning hater. I just don't see him as

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Speaker 1: Hall of Fame material. He's probably gonna go anyway, because

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Speaker 1: not only did he win two Super Bowls, he beat

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Speaker 1: the best team of his era, yes twice in the

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Speaker 1: biggest game, which you know was the Patriots, including the

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Speaker 1: perfect team in two thousand and seven that was undefeated

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Speaker 1: until the Super Bowl, and you know, he and the

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Speaker 1: Giants ruined their perfect season.

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Speaker 2: Eli led the NFL in interceptions three separate times through

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Speaker 2: twenty seven interceptions, and not that long ago, not when

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Speaker 2: you know every quarterback was completing fifty percent of his

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Speaker 2: pass and there was not a lot of passing in

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Speaker 2: twenty thirteen. Eli Manning through twenty seven interceptions. So I

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Speaker 2: didn't know that we were going to talk about Eli

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Speaker 2: Manning today, but I'm glad that you brought it up,

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Speaker 2: because that's one that to me, I would put someone

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Speaker 2: like Philip Rivers in the Hall of Fame over Eli

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Speaker 2: Manning doesn't have the playoff success team wise, but a

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Speaker 2: year to year basis over four thousand yards leading high

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Speaker 2: powered offenses. Didn't maybe have the coaching or the defense

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Speaker 2: in the playoffs. But I think for the span of

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Speaker 2: a career, Philip Rivers they played a long time, was

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Speaker 2: super durable like Eli Manning, But for the course of

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Speaker 2: a career, I think Philip Rivers was just a more

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Speaker 2: impressive quarterback each season than Eli Manning.

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Speaker 1: Will the same draft class as well. We have to

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Speaker 1: take a break here, but your topic of discussion today

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Speaker 1: concerning the Bills is the following. What will a successful

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Speaker 1: Week one outing for the Bills look like to you

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Speaker 1: when they take on the Cardinals here at high Mark

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Speaker 1: Stadium on Sunday at one pm eight h three zero

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Speaker 1: five to fifty one eight eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty Those are the numbers. To join us as

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Speaker 1: we are talking Week one NFL football. Chris Brown, Chris

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Speaker 1: Terrapasso with you your phone calls next here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live, presented by Collide Health. It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right, welcome back Tuesday edition of One Bill's Live.

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Christrapasso with you, as we are in the

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Speaker 1: midst of NFL Week one, two days away from the

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Speaker 1: first game of the season, Ravens Chiefs played in Kansas

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Speaker 1: City as the Chiefs ray is another championship banner. I'm

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Speaker 1: I think I'm gonna join that game late because I

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Speaker 1: really don't need to see any of that pomp and

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00:31:39,560 --> 00:31:42,560
Speaker 1: circumstance you'll throw up before the game even kicks off.

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Speaker 1: But that's just me topic of discussion. What will a

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Speaker 1: successful Week one outing for the Bills look like to you?

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Speaker 1: Eight oh three five point fifty one eighty eight eight

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Speaker 1: five fifty two five point fifty. Those are the numbers

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Speaker 1: to get on board. We do have open lines for you.

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Speaker 1: If you don't have time to give us a call,

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Speaker 1: you can also hit us up on the tweets sheet

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Speaker 1: at one Bill's Live. But we start with the phones,

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Speaker 1: and leading us off today is Mark in Jersey City.

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Speaker 1: Let me punch him up here. Well you got first

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Speaker 1: Mark here on one Bill's Live.

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Speaker 4: Good afternoon, gentlemen, thanks for taking my call before the bills.

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Speaker 4: I how could you guys not mention teed McMillan's game.

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Speaker 2: Oh yeah, yards, three touchdowns. Yeah, he's he looks like

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Speaker 2: four touchdowns.

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Speaker 1: You're right.

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Speaker 2: He looks like the premiere wide receiver in next year's class.

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Speaker 1: Not crazy athletic at Arizona. Didn't he have a big game? Yeah,

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Speaker 1: that's it. That's him.

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Speaker 2: He big, not crazy explosive, but like super intimidating physical

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Speaker 2: presence on the outside.

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Speaker 1: Yeah all right, I'll have to keep it. It's hard.

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Speaker 1: I can't stay up for those Arizona games. Yeah, too late, man.

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Speaker 4: I think it started like the fact Eli kept that

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Speaker 4: team from winning two more imagine them with eight. He's

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Speaker 4: a He's the first ballot Hall of Famer for me. Yeah,

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Speaker 4: it was that. That seven team was the most nausey,

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Speaker 4: the arrogant team I've ever seen in my life at

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Speaker 4: any level. They were gross. I just I Rodney Harrison. Oh,

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Speaker 4: I'm glad they Yeah, he goes to the Hall of Fame.

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Speaker 4: But I think it's gonna be like that Georgia game CV.

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Speaker 4: It was you you were, I don't you were on

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Speaker 4: hand for it? Correct, Yes, it was. It was. It

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Speaker 4: was like it was very grinded out early on. I

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Speaker 4: think you're gonna see that with the Bills in Arizona.

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Speaker 4: I think it's going to be a grinding trying to

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Speaker 4: feel each other out. But I think anybody could you

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Speaker 4: name five players on that Arizona defense but not that's no, no,

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Speaker 4: what Zadan Collins, Buddha Baker, it's not. And I think

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Speaker 4: the Bills just win the War of Attrition and and

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Speaker 4: end up winning by like two or three scores. I

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Speaker 4: think they start running the ball on them. Josh is

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Speaker 4: going to break off something big. I mean, it's gonna

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Speaker 4: be a lot of like, you know, fear for everybody's

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Speaker 4: going to be looking at you know, Harrison Junior. I

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Speaker 4: think the guy to watch on Arizona's offense is Trade McBride.

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Speaker 4: That's the guy that that's that's the guy to watch

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Speaker 4: because he destroyed He was the reason they won that

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Speaker 4: Pittsburgh game. He was he really worked them. But I

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Speaker 4: think the Bills ultimately win the end by two or

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Speaker 4: three scores. Thanks for taking my call, guys.

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Speaker 1: All right, So not a close game for Mark. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: I mean I could see Joe Brady leaning on the

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Speaker 1: run game early because he's playing a defense that was

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Speaker 1: one of the worst in football at stopping the run

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Speaker 1: last year. Now, the biggest free agent money they spent

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Speaker 1: was on two defensive tackles, Balal Nichols and Justin Jones,

655
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Speaker 1: two contracts that both averaged over ten million dollars a year.

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Speaker 1: They didn't spend that kind of money anywhere else in

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Speaker 1: free agency this offseason, And obviously they helped their offense

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Speaker 1: with Marvin Harrison Junior at the top of the draft.

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Speaker 1: But if I'm Joe Brady and I'm still a little

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Speaker 1: concerned about the timing of the passing game because four

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Speaker 1: out of my five receivers are new to the offense

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Speaker 1: with mitigating you know, descriptions of that concerning Samuel who's

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Speaker 1: played in this offense before, but it's missed over a

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Speaker 1: week of practice. I could see him leaning on the

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Speaker 1: run game early, hoping to gain some traction there, and

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Speaker 1: then kind of mixing in the past games as the

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Speaker 1: thing wears on and you know, hopefully he can have

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Speaker 1: some sustained drives, maybe wear that defense out a little bit.

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Speaker 1: But I could see that being the approach. I mean,

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Speaker 1: we should not forget over those last seven games of

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Speaker 1: the regular season when Brady was the coordinator. The Bills

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Speaker 1: were fifty two percent run. Yeah, they and they were

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Speaker 1: good at running it, and the Cowboys game skews it. Yes,

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Speaker 1: a little bit boring, so I'll give you that, but

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Speaker 1: still that's a lot higher than anything they came close

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Speaker 1: to under Dorsey or Table. Absolutely, for me, I think

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Speaker 1: it's successful.

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Speaker 2: If we're going to really zero in on that word,

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Speaker 2: a successful week one would be something like the Bills

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Speaker 2: scoring over thirty points and allowing under twenty points. So

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Speaker 2: something like a thirty one seventeen I think just doesn't

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Speaker 2: necessarily have to be the Bills just blowing them out

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Speaker 2: right from the go. It can be, you know, where

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Speaker 2: they really extend the lead in the second half. I

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Speaker 2: want to throw some numbers at you. Kyler Murray returned

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Speaker 2: from his injury last year in Week ten. From Week

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Speaker 2: ten to Week eighteen, the Cardinals were offensively eighth in

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Speaker 2: EPA per play ninth. I'm sorry they were ninth. Bills

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Speaker 2: were eighth, so they actually moved the football before Marvin

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Speaker 2: Harrison Junior. Like that, Coller said, Trey McBride, like you mentioned,

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Speaker 2: Trey McBride had a breakout season at the tight end spot.

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Speaker 2: James Connor's very good. I love Trey Benson, who they

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Speaker 2: drafted in the third round out of Florida State. But

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Speaker 2: their defense was thirtieth in EPA per play down the stretch.

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Speaker 2: So you're right, and I think we all agree that

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Speaker 2: the Bills will probably have some growing pains at the

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Speaker 2: receiver spot. But you still have Josh Allen, you have

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Speaker 2: Joe Brady as the offensive coordinator. They should score more

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Speaker 2: than thirty points in this game. And if they're able

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Speaker 2: to hold a healthy Kyler Murray with Marvin Harrison Junior

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Speaker 2: and James Connor kind of a sneaky good offense down

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Speaker 2: the stretch to under twenty points, I think that would

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Speaker 2: be a very successful Week one win for the Bill.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, let's jump back to the phones at eight oh

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Speaker 1: three five point fifty one eight eight five fifty two,

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Speaker 1: five fifty and next up is Ron in Buffalo. What's up, Ron?

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Speaker 5: Yeah, I'd like to see Shakir go nuts this week.

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Speaker 5: I'd like to see a good defensive outing also, but

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Speaker 5: i'd like to see a smash mouse football in the

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Speaker 5: second half. If we're up, just run that ball. And

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Speaker 5: we got the dogs in the backfield to do it too, So.

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Speaker 1: Okay, yeah, I mean that's that's fair. I get what

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Speaker 1: you're looking for. We do have to remember they do

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Speaker 1: have one of the best quarterbacks in football, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know how often you want to take the ball

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Speaker 1: out of his hands. But yeah, if you're on the

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Speaker 1: scoreboard and you're just trying to shorten the game, I'm

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Speaker 1: all for it. I don't have a problem with that.

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Speaker 1: And your Shakir comments interesting because the two safeties for

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Speaker 1: the Cardinals are very Budda Baker and Jalen Thompson two

721
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Speaker 1: very good players, a pretty strong tandem, and one of

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Speaker 1: them routinely will come down and cover a tight end,

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Speaker 1: and so I wonder if their focus is Kincaid and

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Speaker 1: that allows Shakir to get in a favorable matchup. They

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Speaker 1: have a new nickel corner, second year player, Garret Williams

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Speaker 1: out of Syracuse, actually a former third round pick in

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Speaker 1: the twenty three draft. I think Shakir, if he's got

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Speaker 1: that match up, that can be exploited. So if their

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Speaker 1: focus is Kincaid, and if I'm an opponent of the Bills,

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Speaker 1: I'm saying, who do we need to stop, It's Kincaid,

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Speaker 1: Who's at the top of the list right now. That

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Speaker 1: may change over the course of the season, but for me,

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Speaker 1: right now, it's Kincaid. So I would expect the safety's

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Speaker 1: attention to be on Kincaid, and that might give Shakir

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Speaker 1: an opportunity against this new nickel corner Garrett Williams on Sunday.

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Speaker 2: Until the keV that pretty monster game where he catches

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Speaker 2: He's not just that nine mass eight nine passes, makes

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Speaker 2: a few defenders miss on a few of them get

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Speaker 2: close to one hundred yards or eclips of one hundred yards.

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Speaker 1: I don't think that's out of the realm possibility. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: so I'm kind of hoping to see that. As far

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Speaker 1: as Shakira is concerned, I think he could be a

743
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Speaker 1: frequent target for a lot of easy button throws for

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Speaker 1: Josh on Sunday, back to the phones and to Kevin

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Speaker 1: and Hamburg. What do you got for is Kevin?

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Speaker 6: Hey, guys, Hey you doing? Thanks for taking my call.

747
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Speaker 1: Sure?

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Speaker 6: Sure, I think the first half, because this Sunday will

749
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Speaker 6: be two weeks in the day since the last game.

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Speaker 6: Even though it's preseason, we didn't really play any starters,

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Speaker 6: especially Josh, So the first half might look like we're like, oh,

752
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Speaker 6: it looks like maybe a time we're gonna blow this thing.

753
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Speaker 6: But by the time they get in the third and

754
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Speaker 6: maybe the fourth quarter will get you know, with the

755
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Speaker 6: program and maybe rock them in maybe the fourth quarter.

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Speaker 1: Yeah, I could see that.

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Speaker 2: And in week one, if you look back every year,

758
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Speaker 2: I always tweet this in November, look back to week one,

759
00:39:54,280 --> 00:39:57,319
Speaker 2: there will be some weird results where a team that

760
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Speaker 2: ultimately has the second pick in the draft beats a

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Speaker 2: playoff team. You kind of want to avoid that if

762
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Speaker 2: you're the Bills. So I think just getting a win,

763
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Speaker 2: even if it isn't super by the book and it

764
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Speaker 2: is a little bit ugly and it's not you know,

765
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Speaker 2: anything until the fourth quarter where the Bills really extend

766
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Speaker 2: to lead. You just want to get by in week one,

767
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Speaker 2: but for it to be successful, I think, of course

768
00:40:18,440 --> 00:40:20,960
Speaker 2: the Bills Josh Allen would just say, just getting that

769
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Speaker 2: win against a team that we don't really know that

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Speaker 2: much about, Like you mentioned like off air to me,

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Speaker 2: like we people in the area don't really see that

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Speaker 2: much of the Cardinals.

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Speaker 1: The Bills don't see them every year or every other year.

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Speaker 2: So there are two teams that aren't very familiar with

775
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Speaker 2: each other. Just getting a win in week one, moving

776
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Speaker 2: on to Week two, and that Dolphins game on a

777
00:40:37,680 --> 00:40:40,520
Speaker 2: short week I think is more paramount obviously than anything else.

778
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Speaker 1: Right, And the other thing to be concerned about is

779
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Speaker 1: you don't know what the Cardinals have in the bag

780
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Speaker 1: in Week one, just and that goes for every team.

781
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Speaker 1: I mean, this is the week that coordinators stress the most.

782
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Speaker 1: And it's not because of injury and who they may

783
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Speaker 1: or may not have. It's because they we don't know

784
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Speaker 1: what's coming at them. Because there is literally no film

785
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Speaker 1: on what the regular season plans are for your opponent

786
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Speaker 1: in week one. It is a guessing game and you

787
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Speaker 1: will have to adjust on the fly to what they're

788
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Speaker 1: doing in the early going, and that could change two

789
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Speaker 1: and three times over through the course of that game,

790
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Speaker 1: because nobody has put stuff on film in the preseason.

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Speaker 1: I would put the Cardinals in that category. I would

792
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Speaker 1: put the Bills in that category, especially on offense. I

793
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Speaker 1: thought Joe Brady played it extremely close to the vest,

794
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Speaker 1: you know, using a lot of the run plays from

795
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Speaker 1: last year, past concepts from last year. I think he's

796
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Speaker 1: got a lot under the hood that we haven't even

797
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Speaker 1: seen yet that will be uncovered to some degree.

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Speaker 2: Last point, we saw Marvin Harrison Junior for three snaps

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Speaker 2: in the preseason, did nothing at the Combine, nothing at

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Speaker 2: the Ohio State Prota. So we really haven't seen him

801
00:41:50,000 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 2: play actual football since late last season at Ohio State.

802
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Speaker 2: So that's something else, another wrinkle that I'm sure the

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Speaker 2: Bills are preparing for as best as they can going

804
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Speaker 2: into Sunday.

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Speaker 1: Gotta take a break here, but more of your phone

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Speaker 1: calls when we come back. We'll lead off with Joe

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Speaker 2: I did try it last year. I'm walking into the

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Speaker 1: So I go to it.

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Speaker 2: It's promotional. But they're like, no, you have to pour

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Speaker 1: Yes, I liked it. Now would I try curious? I

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Speaker 1: am very cure. Would I have six of them at

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Speaker 1: a tailgate? Probably not.

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Speaker 2: It's probably a little bit too much for your stomach

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Speaker 2: and your esophagus. But walking into a Bills game to

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Speaker 2: open the season absolutely I did not think it was bad.

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Speaker 2: I like Pepsi zero sugar anyway.

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Speaker 1: I like hot sauce. Mix them together gives it a

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Speaker 1: little kick. I think it's good. Yeah, I'm a zero

835
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Speaker 1: sugar soda guy. I like it's so much better than

836
00:43:37,320 --> 00:43:39,799
Speaker 1: the diet soda is so because it tastes more like

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Speaker 1: the original, yes, which I can't afford to drink anymore.

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Speaker 1: It's too much sugar. So this is great. Same here,

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Speaker 1: zero sugar.

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Speaker 2: So what I do think is interesting about this, I

841
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00:43:50,840 --> 00:43:54,360
Speaker 2: There was not a blue cheese rim last year, so

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Speaker 2: that will really amps up the traditional Buffalo nature of

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Speaker 2: this drink, as long as.

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Speaker 1: It's Buffalo blue cheese, because I do think that Buffalo's

846
00:44:03,160 --> 00:44:06,880
Speaker 1: blue cheese is different than blue cheese elsewhere. It's creamier.

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Speaker 1: I can't do the un and not as chunk kunks.

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Speaker 1: I can't do the difference. It's creamier and not as chunky,

849
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Speaker 1: which is why I prefer it over any other blue

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Speaker 1: cheese on the planet. So as long as they're doing that,

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Speaker 1: and I would think they would, because you don't want

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Speaker 1: chunks hanging off the rim of the glass. That would

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Speaker 1: be a little that would be off putting. Be a little, Yes,

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Speaker 1: that's the exact word I was going to say, it'd

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Speaker 1: be a little off putting. I urge you to try

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Speaker 1: this all this this week. I want to go find

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Speaker 1: the tan. I'm gonna find the tent. I gotta try that.

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Speaker 1: I kind of feel like the flavor will be one

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Speaker 1: of those things you're drink and you know you'd be reacting, going, well,

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Speaker 1: I don't put hair on your chest. You don't want

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Speaker 1: to hear that a lot. And I don't need any

862
00:44:43,560 --> 00:44:46,040
Speaker 1: more hair on my chest. So but I am interested

863
00:44:46,040 --> 00:44:47,680
Speaker 1: in trying it, for sure. I gotta find that tent.

864
00:44:47,760 --> 00:44:50,239
Speaker 1: On Sunday, back to the phones, we go, where we

865
00:44:50,320 --> 00:44:55,480
Speaker 1: are asking you, what is your definition of success for

866
00:44:55,520 --> 00:44:59,640
Speaker 1: Buffalo's week one outing against the Cardinals. You let us

867
00:44:59,680 --> 00:45:01,719
Speaker 1: know any three zero, five fifty. We go to Joe

868
00:45:01,760 --> 00:45:04,239
Speaker 1: in Rochester next, let me punch him up, and what

869
00:45:04,280 --> 00:45:05,040
Speaker 1: do you got for shoe?

870
00:45:06,160 --> 00:45:11,560
Speaker 3: Hey, guys, how you doing good? Good? Hey? Anchor bar

871
00:45:11,719 --> 00:45:12,800
Speaker 3: for wings and pizza?

872
00:45:14,200 --> 00:45:17,160
Speaker 1: Well, everybody's got their preferences, for sure, and there's a

873
00:45:17,200 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: lot of choices around here, for sure.

874
00:45:19,120 --> 00:45:22,759
Speaker 3: Yeah, there is. I think the bills are gonna Chris,

875
00:45:22,800 --> 00:45:24,960
Speaker 3: I heard what you said before. Starting with the run.

876
00:45:25,000 --> 00:45:28,000
Speaker 3: I think they're going to open up with quick passing, okay,

877
00:45:29,239 --> 00:45:33,000
Speaker 3: maybe crossing routes across the middle, try and confuse them.

878
00:45:34,080 --> 00:45:37,120
Speaker 3: And then you do like a wheel route with James

879
00:45:37,160 --> 00:45:39,800
Speaker 3: Cook out of the backfield. And I don't think anybody

880
00:45:40,040 --> 00:45:45,560
Speaker 3: on Arizona could stay with James Cook, So that's one way.

881
00:45:45,560 --> 00:45:48,680
Speaker 3: And then once Buffalo crosses the fifty year down to

882
00:45:48,760 --> 00:45:52,319
Speaker 3: the forty, Josh can start to take some shots to

883
00:45:53,160 --> 00:45:58,640
Speaker 3: Shakir or whoever can go deep, some deep routes. I

884
00:45:58,680 --> 00:46:01,919
Speaker 3: think the score is going to be prety, like thirty

885
00:46:01,920 --> 00:46:03,759
Speaker 3: five ten or thirty.

886
00:46:03,600 --> 00:46:04,799
Speaker 1: Wow, big one.

887
00:46:04,960 --> 00:46:08,720
Speaker 3: Okay, yeah, I think I think Josh is gonna open

888
00:46:08,840 --> 00:46:10,719
Speaker 3: up firing and he's gonna have a really good day.

889
00:46:11,120 --> 00:46:14,279
Speaker 1: All right, thanks Jo. It sounds like Joe's got his

890
00:46:14,360 --> 00:46:18,759
Speaker 1: opening script of plays ready talking about different guys. He's

891
00:46:18,800 --> 00:46:21,160
Speaker 1: got a wheel route which sideline though left right side?

892
00:46:21,160 --> 00:46:23,279
Speaker 1: Which play in the script? Is that? I mean he's

893
00:46:23,280 --> 00:46:27,000
Speaker 1: got his first fifteen charted up already and it's only Tuesday. Yeah,

894
00:46:27,000 --> 00:46:29,239
Speaker 1: I mean he's on Joe Brady's in his car doing this,

895
00:46:29,360 --> 00:46:32,200
Speaker 1: So Joe Brady's schedule. Is Brady's putting that stuff together

896
00:46:32,280 --> 00:46:36,239
Speaker 1: right now? That's pretty wild. Yeah. I mean, look, we're

897
00:46:36,280 --> 00:46:40,839
Speaker 1: all guessing, right I got my theories, Joe's got his,

898
00:46:41,200 --> 00:46:44,120
Speaker 1: Chris has his. Like, we don't know what we're gonna see.

899
00:46:44,200 --> 00:46:46,879
Speaker 1: That's that's kind of the beauty and mystery of week one,

900
00:46:47,400 --> 00:46:50,719
Speaker 1: you know, like we get anything, we don't know what.

901
00:46:50,840 --> 00:46:53,640
Speaker 1: I always tendencies or preferences to go off of. Right now.

902
00:46:53,640 --> 00:46:55,080
Speaker 2: What I always say this is kind of like a

903
00:46:55,120 --> 00:46:57,640
Speaker 2: side tangent. But why I still love going to games

904
00:46:57,640 --> 00:46:59,680
Speaker 2: with my dad is that when you walk in and

905
00:46:59,680 --> 00:47:01,719
Speaker 2: it feel the Bills are different than other teams because

906
00:47:01,719 --> 00:47:02,920
Speaker 2: they've been in so many wild games.

907
00:47:03,040 --> 00:47:06,000
Speaker 1: When you're at the game, you don't know what you're

908
00:47:06,000 --> 00:47:06,440
Speaker 1: gonna get.

909
00:47:06,480 --> 00:47:08,760
Speaker 2: Are you gonna be at a game where the Bills

910
00:47:08,800 --> 00:47:11,040
Speaker 2: win a crazy shootout? Are you going to see some

911
00:47:11,480 --> 00:47:13,719
Speaker 2: epic way that they lost the game? Are you going

912
00:47:13,800 --> 00:47:16,840
Speaker 2: to see a perfect game? In the playoffs against the Patriots,

913
00:47:16,840 --> 00:47:19,920
Speaker 2: it's always such a mystery. You can be an analyst,

914
00:47:19,960 --> 00:47:21,760
Speaker 2: you can follow the Bills, you can cover the Bills,

915
00:47:21,760 --> 00:47:24,040
Speaker 2: you can be the play by play guy, and you

916
00:47:24,040 --> 00:47:26,080
Speaker 2: don't know what you're going to get inside that stadium,

917
00:47:26,120 --> 00:47:27,680
Speaker 2: and I think it's going to be just an awesome

918
00:47:27,719 --> 00:47:29,680
Speaker 2: atmosphere on Sunday, Let's.

919
00:47:29,440 --> 00:47:31,680
Speaker 1: Go to Mark and West senecon next What do you

920
00:47:31,680 --> 00:47:33,200
Speaker 1: got for us? Mark here on One Bill's Live.

921
00:47:33,719 --> 00:47:38,640
Speaker 7: Hey, good afternoon, guys. A couple of things. Defensively, I

922
00:47:38,680 --> 00:47:42,880
Speaker 7: want to see that they seem to be understanding the

923
00:47:42,960 --> 00:47:48,040
Speaker 7: defensive calls and executing no breakdowns in the defensive backfield.

924
00:47:48,560 --> 00:47:50,120
Speaker 7: And I want to see where the pressure is going

925
00:47:50,160 --> 00:47:52,000
Speaker 7: to come from. Hopefully we're going to see some pressure.

926
00:47:52,800 --> 00:47:56,520
Speaker 7: But most importantly for me, offensively, I've been asking for

927
00:47:56,560 --> 00:48:00,000
Speaker 7: this for several years. I want to see an intermediate

928
00:48:00,080 --> 00:48:04,160
Speaker 7: yet passing game. We brought Kincaiden here to dominate the

929
00:48:04,160 --> 00:48:07,319
Speaker 7: middle of the field, which I believe he can do.

930
00:48:07,360 --> 00:48:10,359
Speaker 7: You know, those flat passes and those six seven eight

931
00:48:10,440 --> 00:48:13,120
Speaker 7: yard passes out to the sideline to him are fine

932
00:48:13,160 --> 00:48:15,239
Speaker 7: once in a while, but I want to see him

933
00:48:15,239 --> 00:48:19,120
Speaker 7: executing sitting down in zones, maybe a little bit vertical,

934
00:48:19,120 --> 00:48:22,360
Speaker 7: but hitting him in that eight to twelve fifteen yard

935
00:48:22,920 --> 00:48:25,640
Speaker 7: passing range, going up the field once in a while,

936
00:48:26,000 --> 00:48:30,040
Speaker 7: some crossing, and I really think we can dominate crossing

937
00:48:30,120 --> 00:48:33,920
Speaker 7: patterns and the intermediate level of the field. With Samuel

938
00:48:34,280 --> 00:48:37,239
Speaker 7: and Shakir, I think that could be their wheelhouse this year.

939
00:48:37,960 --> 00:48:41,239
Speaker 7: They're both shifty guys, a little bit of speed, and

940
00:48:41,360 --> 00:48:43,799
Speaker 7: when you're running a crossfield, you can shake guys, I

941
00:48:43,880 --> 00:48:46,840
Speaker 7: believe quicker than we're just going vertically all the time.

942
00:48:47,160 --> 00:48:49,880
Speaker 7: So that's what I'm looking for, you know. And you know,

943
00:48:49,960 --> 00:48:52,160
Speaker 7: those shots down the field and all that, We're always

944
00:48:52,160 --> 00:48:54,600
Speaker 7: going to have that with Josh, But I want to

945
00:48:54,640 --> 00:48:58,000
Speaker 7: see a field general who's moving us down the field

946
00:48:58,040 --> 00:48:59,880
Speaker 7: and not looking for so many big plays.

947
00:48:59,640 --> 00:48:59,960
Speaker 5: All the time.

948
00:49:00,239 --> 00:49:02,759
Speaker 7: Nice play print, yeahs.

949
00:49:02,840 --> 00:49:05,520
Speaker 1: Mark appreciate that. Yeah. And I think the other thing

950
00:49:05,560 --> 00:49:09,920
Speaker 1: to consider here too is they are going against an underfront.

951
00:49:10,320 --> 00:49:13,440
Speaker 1: I mean, Arizona plays a three to four front, and

952
00:49:14,600 --> 00:49:18,439
Speaker 1: the Bills have eight games this season against three four

953
00:49:18,480 --> 00:49:22,319
Speaker 1: defensive fronts. And that's why they were very happy to

954
00:49:22,400 --> 00:49:26,160
Speaker 1: draw Pittsburgh in the preseason, just to give their players

955
00:49:26,160 --> 00:49:31,040
Speaker 1: some looks at that kind of defensive front. So hopefully

956
00:49:31,160 --> 00:49:33,120
Speaker 1: that is not too far in the rear view mirror

957
00:49:33,160 --> 00:49:35,279
Speaker 1: from the preseason where they can apply some of those

958
00:49:35,520 --> 00:49:40,920
Speaker 1: especially for the lineman up front. In addressing Arizona's defense, again,

959
00:49:42,080 --> 00:49:44,080
Speaker 1: you don't know what's coming out of the bag in

960
00:49:44,160 --> 00:49:46,440
Speaker 1: terms of the you know, the game plan and everything,

961
00:49:46,480 --> 00:49:49,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I mean that's that's a consideration.

962
00:49:49,719 --> 00:49:53,200
Speaker 2: Also, Yeah, I liked his first point there about the

963
00:49:53,360 --> 00:49:55,640
Speaker 2: communication on the back end where the pressure comes from.

964
00:49:55,680 --> 00:49:58,400
Speaker 2: Because there's so many new faces, even on the defensive side,

965
00:49:58,719 --> 00:50:02,719
Speaker 2: with Taylor rapping more of a a prominent role the safeties,

966
00:50:03,760 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 2: how much has von Miller played as Greg Russeau continue

967
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:08,799
Speaker 2: to kind of parlay that awesome preseason into the regular season.

968
00:50:08,800 --> 00:50:11,359
Speaker 2: Those are good points to not just focus on Josh Allen,

969
00:50:11,400 --> 00:50:13,319
Speaker 2: but also kind of the new look defense as well.

970
00:50:13,719 --> 00:50:16,359
Speaker 1: We have to take a break here. We will get

971
00:50:16,400 --> 00:50:18,280
Speaker 1: to more of your phone calls here in due course,

972
00:50:18,719 --> 00:50:21,120
Speaker 1: but coming up next for hour number two, we're going

973
00:50:21,200 --> 00:50:25,000
Speaker 1: to join NFL analyst Dan Pezuda from the thirty third team.

974
00:50:25,040 --> 00:50:29,240
Speaker 1: It's got some interesting over under predictions for every team

975
00:50:29,560 --> 00:50:32,640
Speaker 1: for the twenty twenty four season, some interesting picks for

976
00:50:32,680 --> 00:50:35,920
Speaker 1: the AFC East. We'll go over those with him, along

977
00:50:35,920 --> 00:50:38,960
Speaker 1: with some other writeups that he's had recently, including his

978
00:50:39,040 --> 00:50:42,480
Speaker 1: most recent one where he examines the most critical position

979
00:50:42,640 --> 00:50:45,600
Speaker 1: group to each team's success. You'll be interested to see

980
00:50:45,600 --> 00:50:47,719
Speaker 1: what he has on the Bills when we return here

981
00:50:47,719 --> 00:50:50,000
Speaker 1: on one Bill's Live presented by Kalida Health. It's Buffalo

982
00:50:50,000 --> 00:51:14,720
Speaker 1: Bills Radio. Bill's Live. Chris Brown, Steve Tasker out today,

983
00:51:14,880 --> 00:51:18,480
Speaker 1: Chris Trapasso in for him, and please to be joined

984
00:51:18,480 --> 00:51:22,200
Speaker 1: now by NFL analysts for the thirty third Team, Dan Pezuda,

985
00:51:22,560 --> 00:51:27,080
Speaker 1: who's been busy getting his final predictive stories in before

986
00:51:27,160 --> 00:51:31,040
Speaker 1: the season opener on Thursday Night, Raven's Chiefs, and obviously

987
00:51:31,040 --> 00:51:34,440
Speaker 1: we've got Bill's Cardinals. So Dan, thanks for taking the

988
00:51:34,480 --> 00:51:38,920
Speaker 1: time to join us. We appreciate it. I guess where

989
00:51:38,960 --> 00:51:42,759
Speaker 1: we should start is with one area of the team,

990
00:51:42,800 --> 00:51:45,720
Speaker 1: which is pretty interesting for the Bills all off season,

991
00:51:45,760 --> 00:51:48,040
Speaker 1: and it made your list. You only listed five of

992
00:51:48,080 --> 00:51:51,080
Speaker 1: these position groups, but in your recent write up today

993
00:51:51,120 --> 00:51:54,759
Speaker 1: on the thirty third Team, you had a series on

994
00:51:54,920 --> 00:51:58,400
Speaker 1: NFL's most pivotal position units entering the twenty twenty four season,

995
00:51:59,040 --> 00:52:04,080
Speaker 1: and the Bills receiving corps made that list. I found

996
00:52:04,080 --> 00:52:08,000
Speaker 1: it interesting that you listed them as past catchers, so

997
00:52:08,040 --> 00:52:11,760
Speaker 1: you could include Knox and Kincaid in the equation, which

998
00:52:12,160 --> 00:52:15,760
Speaker 1: I think would booy the prospects because if it's just receivers,

999
00:52:15,800 --> 00:52:18,319
Speaker 1: four of those five guys are new, but maybe just

1000
00:52:18,440 --> 00:52:23,040
Speaker 1: kinda I guess first, let us know why this position

1001
00:52:23,160 --> 00:52:25,280
Speaker 1: group madeor list in the first place.

1002
00:52:27,200 --> 00:52:29,720
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think it's kind of like you said, how

1003
00:52:29,880 --> 00:52:32,360
Speaker 8: because so much of it is new. I think how

1004
00:52:32,520 --> 00:52:35,800
Speaker 8: this receiving cores and the pass catching group in general

1005
00:52:37,120 --> 00:52:39,520
Speaker 8: kind of clicks, and how they figure out who is

1006
00:52:39,600 --> 00:52:42,719
Speaker 8: best where and how early they can get that going,

1007
00:52:42,760 --> 00:52:44,120
Speaker 8: I think is going to be one of the most

1008
00:52:44,160 --> 00:52:48,080
Speaker 8: pivotal things for really any team, because the Bills did

1009
00:52:48,160 --> 00:52:51,120
Speaker 8: do this kind of transition in that past catcher area

1010
00:52:51,200 --> 00:52:53,919
Speaker 8: where you know, Stefan Diggs is out, you have now

1011
00:52:54,280 --> 00:52:57,839
Speaker 8: Shakiri of Curtis Samuel, you have Keyan Coleman, all of

1012
00:52:57,880 --> 00:53:00,200
Speaker 8: these guys who are going to be new in playing

1013
00:53:00,280 --> 00:53:03,160
Speaker 8: much bigger either one playing a much bigger role or

1014
00:53:03,160 --> 00:53:05,960
Speaker 8: playing a completely new role than they were last year.

1015
00:53:06,080 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 8: So I think, you know, the Bills are kind of

1016
00:53:08,080 --> 00:53:10,759
Speaker 8: going in that Chiefs direction a little bit, where we

1017
00:53:10,880 --> 00:53:13,720
Speaker 8: have this super human quarterback and we kind of hope

1018
00:53:13,800 --> 00:53:16,480
Speaker 8: he's going to be able to figure out some things

1019
00:53:16,800 --> 00:53:19,400
Speaker 8: early in the season that will allow us to figure

1020
00:53:19,400 --> 00:53:22,160
Speaker 8: out how to best use these pass catchers. And so

1021
00:53:22,440 --> 00:53:24,399
Speaker 8: I think how these guys are used because I think

1022
00:53:24,400 --> 00:53:29,320
Speaker 8: all three of those receivers kind of profiles slightly better

1023
00:53:29,360 --> 00:53:31,520
Speaker 8: in the slot than they do outside, So I think

1024
00:53:31,560 --> 00:53:35,719
Speaker 8: that might be a little you know, there's some traffic there,

1025
00:53:35,760 --> 00:53:37,440
Speaker 8: and I think, how you best want to use some

1026
00:53:37,480 --> 00:53:38,880
Speaker 8: of those guys, And I think that might go for

1027
00:53:39,120 --> 00:53:42,600
Speaker 8: you know, Dultkin Kaid too, So I think how these

1028
00:53:42,640 --> 00:53:46,160
Speaker 8: pass catchers really are able to They're able to figure

1029
00:53:46,160 --> 00:53:48,279
Speaker 8: it out the best alignments, the best way to get

1030
00:53:48,320 --> 00:53:50,799
Speaker 8: the best you know, five pass catchers or four pass

1031
00:53:50,840 --> 00:53:53,160
Speaker 8: catchers and running back on the field is going to

1032
00:53:53,200 --> 00:53:55,680
Speaker 8: be one of the most interesting things this early part

1033
00:53:55,680 --> 00:53:57,080
Speaker 8: of the season for Buffalo.

1034
00:53:57,200 --> 00:53:57,359
Speaker 3: Dan.

1035
00:53:57,440 --> 00:54:00,880
Speaker 2: I have a two part follow to Chris's question, do

1036
00:54:00,920 --> 00:54:04,640
Speaker 2: you expect the Bills to utilize twelve personnel with Falton

1037
00:54:04,680 --> 00:54:06,920
Speaker 2: Kincaid and Dawson Knox on the field more than they

1038
00:54:06,920 --> 00:54:10,000
Speaker 2: did last year? And I know you're a big analytics guy,

1039
00:54:10,040 --> 00:54:11,680
Speaker 2: which I love that because I kind of lean in

1040
00:54:11,680 --> 00:54:15,160
Speaker 2: that direction too. What overall the last five to ten

1041
00:54:15,280 --> 00:54:18,920
Speaker 2: years has the football analytics industry kind of told us

1042
00:54:19,000 --> 00:54:22,279
Speaker 2: about the usage of twelve personnel? Is it better for

1043
00:54:22,320 --> 00:54:24,839
Speaker 2: teams to utilize that? Do you only utilize it if

1044
00:54:24,840 --> 00:54:27,359
Speaker 2: you have two studs at the tight end spot or

1045
00:54:27,400 --> 00:54:30,440
Speaker 2: do you actually get more efficiency from that personnel grouping

1046
00:54:30,520 --> 00:54:33,480
Speaker 2: even if you don't necessarily have two all pro tight

1047
00:54:33,560 --> 00:54:34,239
Speaker 2: ends on your roster.

1048
00:54:35,440 --> 00:54:39,200
Speaker 8: Yeah, it's certainly been an interesting thing over these past

1049
00:54:39,320 --> 00:54:41,000
Speaker 8: a couple of years, and I do expect the Bills

1050
00:54:41,040 --> 00:54:44,120
Speaker 8: to use it more this year. And even when you

1051
00:54:44,400 --> 00:54:47,520
Speaker 8: Knox and Kincaid were both available last year, they didn't

1052
00:54:47,600 --> 00:54:49,920
Speaker 8: use it quite as much as you would probably think

1053
00:54:50,360 --> 00:54:52,840
Speaker 8: that they did. But I do expect, just kind of

1054
00:54:52,880 --> 00:54:55,400
Speaker 8: based on the personnel they have, that they should be

1055
00:54:55,480 --> 00:54:58,879
Speaker 8: using twelve a little more this year. The interesting thing

1056
00:54:59,080 --> 00:55:02,160
Speaker 8: about twelve personnel over the past couple of years is

1057
00:55:02,920 --> 00:55:06,400
Speaker 8: there was a stretch maybe like twenty you know, eighteen

1058
00:55:06,520 --> 00:55:10,120
Speaker 8: twenty nineteen, where passing from twelve personnel was just kind

1059
00:55:10,120 --> 00:55:13,879
Speaker 8: of a cheat code inefficiency because you had a lot

1060
00:55:13,880 --> 00:55:16,680
Speaker 8: of these tight ends that were great pass catchers, and

1061
00:55:17,120 --> 00:55:21,799
Speaker 8: defenses were still going base defense against some of these

1062
00:55:21,880 --> 00:55:24,840
Speaker 8: twelve personnel looks. So you had a tight ends like

1063
00:55:24,840 --> 00:55:28,080
Speaker 8: a you know, a Travis Kelce or whoever, but is

1064
00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:31,280
Speaker 8: someone who was a much better basically a wide receiver

1065
00:55:31,440 --> 00:55:35,960
Speaker 8: playing tight ends, and defenses were still going pretty heavy

1066
00:55:35,960 --> 00:55:38,080
Speaker 8: in defending that. Over the past couple of years, we

1067
00:55:38,239 --> 00:55:43,360
Speaker 8: have seen that shift and defenses are much more willing

1068
00:55:43,400 --> 00:55:48,640
Speaker 8: to play nickel against those twelve personnel sets and basically

1069
00:55:49,120 --> 00:55:52,200
Speaker 8: dare teams to run against them. And I think we

1070
00:55:52,320 --> 00:55:54,080
Speaker 8: do have some of those. When you have some of

1071
00:55:54,120 --> 00:55:57,160
Speaker 8: those you know, past catching first tight ends that aren't

1072
00:55:57,200 --> 00:55:59,839
Speaker 8: necessarily the run blockers that you need to be having

1073
00:56:00,360 --> 00:56:04,040
Speaker 8: really good run blocking and be able to run out

1074
00:56:04,040 --> 00:56:07,440
Speaker 8: of twelve personnel, And so these defenses aren't losing a

1075
00:56:07,480 --> 00:56:10,600
Speaker 8: lot by being in nickel and defending against the pass.

1076
00:56:10,920 --> 00:56:13,200
Speaker 8: So I think we've seen a bit of a switch

1077
00:56:13,239 --> 00:56:15,680
Speaker 8: and how efficient twelve personnel can be. So you kind

1078
00:56:15,719 --> 00:56:18,439
Speaker 8: of really need to be good at both right now

1079
00:56:18,520 --> 00:56:21,120
Speaker 8: because of how defenses are going against them. So I

1080
00:56:21,160 --> 00:56:23,239
Speaker 8: do see, like you have a Dawson Knox, you can

1081
00:56:23,280 --> 00:56:25,040
Speaker 8: play a little more in line. I know when they were,

1082
00:56:25,239 --> 00:56:27,799
Speaker 8: you know, when they were both on the field, don

1083
00:56:27,920 --> 00:56:30,200
Speaker 8: Ky Kid was in the slot a bunch and Knox

1084
00:56:30,360 --> 00:56:32,760
Speaker 8: was inside, and neither one is, you know, the greatest

1085
00:56:32,800 --> 00:56:35,680
Speaker 8: blocker in the world. But if once we kind of

1086
00:56:35,719 --> 00:56:38,440
Speaker 8: saw over the second half of the season with Joe Brady,

1087
00:56:38,719 --> 00:56:41,120
Speaker 8: there was a bigger emphasis on the run game. So

1088
00:56:41,160 --> 00:56:43,640
Speaker 8: if they're able to show that they do have the

1089
00:56:43,640 --> 00:56:45,960
Speaker 8: physical presence to be able to run the ball out

1090
00:56:45,960 --> 00:56:48,200
Speaker 8: of those looks. I think that is going to be

1091
00:56:48,239 --> 00:56:50,560
Speaker 8: a lega because I think defenses are still going to

1092
00:56:50,600 --> 00:56:53,320
Speaker 8: want to play them in nickel because of how dangerous,

1093
00:56:53,360 --> 00:56:56,200
Speaker 8: you know, a Kincaid can be catching the ball. So

1094
00:56:56,280 --> 00:56:58,000
Speaker 8: I think that is really going to be the key,

1095
00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,760
Speaker 8: especially just around the leak, because I do expect twelve

1096
00:57:00,800 --> 00:57:03,600
Speaker 8: to come up a little more with a lot of

1097
00:57:03,600 --> 00:57:06,239
Speaker 8: these teams. But how well you can be balanced and

1098
00:57:06,360 --> 00:57:08,040
Speaker 8: kind of just all around with some of these side

1099
00:57:08,120 --> 00:57:10,319
Speaker 8: ends is really going to be the key to what

1100
00:57:10,320 --> 00:57:12,719
Speaker 8: you can do, because just passing out of twelve personnel

1101
00:57:13,040 --> 00:57:14,520
Speaker 8: is not the cheet code that it used to be.

1102
00:57:14,800 --> 00:57:17,120
Speaker 1: Yeah, and that kind of segues me to my next question,

1103
00:57:17,160 --> 00:57:20,040
Speaker 1: because in those last seven games under Brady as the

1104
00:57:20,040 --> 00:57:23,560
Speaker 1: OC last year, and granted he was kind of triaging

1105
00:57:23,560 --> 00:57:26,080
Speaker 1: an offense that had kind of hit the skids at

1106
00:57:26,120 --> 00:57:31,360
Speaker 1: six and six, they still ran the ball fifty two

1107
00:57:31,480 --> 00:57:33,920
Speaker 1: percent of the time. They didn't come anywhere close to

1108
00:57:34,000 --> 00:57:38,120
Speaker 1: that under Dorsey or Dable in the previous four seasons,

1109
00:57:39,440 --> 00:57:40,960
Speaker 1: and so a lot of it left a lot of

1110
00:57:41,040 --> 00:57:44,440
Speaker 1: us wondering, well, was he just triaging an offense that

1111
00:57:44,600 --> 00:57:46,160
Speaker 1: was in a little bit of trouble and had hit

1112
00:57:46,200 --> 00:57:48,120
Speaker 1: the skids, or is this what we're going to be

1113
00:57:48,200 --> 00:57:51,840
Speaker 1: looking at going forward? And now seeing this receiving corps

1114
00:57:51,840 --> 00:57:55,280
Speaker 1: with four new members in the receiver position, I'm kind

1115
00:57:55,280 --> 00:57:57,160
Speaker 1: of of the belief that we are going to see

1116
00:57:57,840 --> 00:58:00,520
Speaker 1: maybe a fifty two percent run team at least at

1117
00:58:00,520 --> 00:58:03,840
Speaker 1: the outset of the season, while that passing game gets

1118
00:58:03,840 --> 00:58:06,520
Speaker 1: its timing down and its legs underneath them. Is that

1119
00:58:06,600 --> 00:58:08,360
Speaker 1: reasonable to expect, you think.

1120
00:58:09,440 --> 00:58:11,760
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think so, And I think it's something the

1121
00:58:11,800 --> 00:58:14,520
Speaker 8: Bills have kind of wanted to do for a while.

1122
00:58:14,600 --> 00:58:16,640
Speaker 8: I think every year for the past you know what,

1123
00:58:16,800 --> 00:58:19,560
Speaker 8: three or four years, we've kind of had Buffalo come

1124
00:58:19,600 --> 00:58:22,760
Speaker 8: into we need to, you know, get better run blocking

1125
00:58:23,280 --> 00:58:25,200
Speaker 8: out of this offensive line. It was always a pretty

1126
00:58:25,240 --> 00:58:28,400
Speaker 8: good pass blocking unit. The run blocking left a lot

1127
00:58:28,440 --> 00:58:30,320
Speaker 8: to be desired, and I think they kind of started

1128
00:58:30,320 --> 00:58:33,320
Speaker 8: to figure out is some of the run schemes that

1129
00:58:33,400 --> 00:58:36,000
Speaker 8: would fit this offensive line better. And I think that

1130
00:58:36,160 --> 00:58:38,280
Speaker 8: helped over the second half of the season with the

1131
00:58:38,320 --> 00:58:40,640
Speaker 8: added commitment to the run. And I think there was

1132
00:58:40,720 --> 00:58:42,520
Speaker 8: just a lot of things, especially in you know, the

1133
00:58:42,560 --> 00:58:44,560
Speaker 8: passing over the middle of the field too. I think

1134
00:58:44,600 --> 00:58:47,480
Speaker 8: there was just a lot a more sense of a

1135
00:58:47,600 --> 00:58:50,560
Speaker 8: ball control kind of offense that they were able to

1136
00:58:50,600 --> 00:58:52,880
Speaker 8: do in the second half of last season that I

1137
00:58:52,920 --> 00:58:55,600
Speaker 8: do think will carry out over because it's going to

1138
00:58:55,640 --> 00:58:57,520
Speaker 8: be able to run the ball. I think James Cook

1139
00:58:57,760 --> 00:59:00,360
Speaker 8: is going to be really good there. You know, I'm

1140
00:59:00,360 --> 00:59:02,360
Speaker 8: a big fan of Ray Davis and some of the

1141
00:59:02,360 --> 00:59:05,040
Speaker 8: things that they can do with all of those backs

1142
00:59:05,040 --> 00:59:07,240
Speaker 8: that they do have, and then you kind of look

1143
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:08,720
Speaker 8: at what they're going to be able to do in

1144
00:59:08,760 --> 00:59:10,600
Speaker 8: the middle of the field passing wise. So I think

1145
00:59:10,600 --> 00:59:14,280
Speaker 8: we are going to see a very similar philosophy to

1146
00:59:14,360 --> 00:59:16,160
Speaker 8: what we saw in the second half of the season

1147
00:59:16,480 --> 00:59:18,720
Speaker 8: kind of carry over to what we'll see at least,

1148
00:59:19,040 --> 00:59:21,240
Speaker 8: like you said, in the first half of twenty twenty four.

1149
00:59:21,440 --> 00:59:23,960
Speaker 2: One last question before we get to your next article,

1150
00:59:24,040 --> 00:59:26,640
Speaker 2: and it's kind of staying on the analytics angle because

1151
00:59:26,640 --> 00:59:29,840
Speaker 2: I'm so interested in this. You mentioned twenty eighteen, twenty

1152
00:59:29,920 --> 00:59:32,240
Speaker 2: nineteen that the twelve personnel throwing out of it that

1153
00:59:32,280 --> 00:59:35,000
Speaker 2: was kind of like a quote unquote cheat code. Is

1154
00:59:35,040 --> 00:59:38,720
Speaker 2: there anything now, just whether it be personnel groups or

1155
00:59:38,880 --> 00:59:42,080
Speaker 2: ideologies on the offensive side that are kind of that

1156
00:59:42,160 --> 00:59:45,080
Speaker 2: you're going into this season thinking, hey, let's say, for example,

1157
00:59:45,120 --> 00:59:49,120
Speaker 2: if a team uses more first down passing in neutral situations,

1158
00:59:49,280 --> 00:59:52,040
Speaker 2: like what cheat code do you think if any are

1159
00:59:52,080 --> 00:59:54,480
Speaker 2: out there for maybe a team that has been very

1160
00:59:54,480 --> 00:59:57,160
Speaker 2: advanced with the analytics over the last four or five years,

1161
00:59:57,160 --> 00:59:59,080
Speaker 2: that the Bills could maybe take to their advantage of

1162
00:59:59,080 --> 00:59:59,440
Speaker 2: the season.

1163
01:00:00,440 --> 01:00:02,960
Speaker 8: Yeah, I think there are still just those those types

1164
01:00:02,960 --> 01:00:05,040
Speaker 8: of things like you said, like you know, passing on

1165
01:00:05,080 --> 01:00:07,280
Speaker 8: first down instead of running on first and ten is

1166
01:00:07,400 --> 01:00:10,520
Speaker 8: usually just a good idea in general, no matter who

1167
01:00:10,560 --> 01:00:12,880
Speaker 8: you are. Probably also helps you know, when you are

1168
01:00:12,880 --> 01:00:16,080
Speaker 8: a team that has Josh Allen is definitely going to help,

1169
01:00:16,160 --> 01:00:19,240
Speaker 8: especially when you know scrambling is going to be in

1170
01:00:19,320 --> 01:00:21,800
Speaker 8: play there. And that's part of what makes you know

1171
01:00:21,840 --> 01:00:24,120
Speaker 8: those passing plays so much better when you do have

1172
01:00:24,160 --> 01:00:26,960
Speaker 8: a mobile quarterback like that is there is always kind

1173
01:00:26,960 --> 01:00:30,320
Speaker 8: of that outlet there that a player like Josh Allen has,

1174
01:00:30,360 --> 01:00:33,240
Speaker 8: So yeah, throwing on first down instead of running is

1175
01:00:33,320 --> 01:00:36,160
Speaker 8: usually always the better kind of It does put you

1176
01:00:36,600 --> 01:00:39,200
Speaker 8: in front of the six more often than not, especially

1177
01:00:39,200 --> 01:00:40,880
Speaker 8: if you know you have a one yard run on

1178
01:00:41,240 --> 01:00:44,600
Speaker 8: a first down, you're sitting second and nine and that

1179
01:00:45,000 --> 01:00:47,440
Speaker 8: is not usually a good thing for an offense. So

1180
01:00:47,600 --> 01:00:50,040
Speaker 8: there are things like that, but kind of like you said,

1181
01:00:50,040 --> 01:00:53,360
Speaker 8: I think defenses are starting to they're starting to play

1182
01:00:53,440 --> 01:00:56,680
Speaker 8: more aggressively and not be as you know, passive and

1183
01:00:56,840 --> 01:01:00,400
Speaker 8: reactive as they have been over the past couple So

1184
01:01:00,440 --> 01:01:03,560
Speaker 8: I think there is a shift there where offenses are

1185
01:01:03,600 --> 01:01:08,120
Speaker 8: not white as often able to dictate kind of what

1186
01:01:08,200 --> 01:01:10,720
Speaker 8: they've been able to do over the you know, as

1187
01:01:10,760 --> 01:01:15,600
Speaker 8: they were maybe you know, twenty twenty twenty nineteen. In

1188
01:01:15,640 --> 01:01:18,280
Speaker 8: that time, I think defenses are starting to be more

1189
01:01:18,320 --> 01:01:23,520
Speaker 8: aggressive and they're trying to really be the aggressors in

1190
01:01:23,560 --> 01:01:26,840
Speaker 8: a sense. So there's not really that you know, cheekode

1191
01:01:26,840 --> 01:01:29,640
Speaker 8: even like play action just used to be that type

1192
01:01:29,680 --> 01:01:32,000
Speaker 8: of and it still is. You know, you're still going

1193
01:01:32,000 --> 01:01:34,680
Speaker 8: to get good efficiency when playing off play action, but

1194
01:01:35,040 --> 01:01:37,840
Speaker 8: you know, teams are are finding new ways to kind

1195
01:01:37,880 --> 01:01:40,760
Speaker 8: of get more dropbacks. You look at a you know,

1196
01:01:40,840 --> 01:01:43,880
Speaker 8: a Sean McVay or a Kyle Shanahan team, and those

1197
01:01:43,880 --> 01:01:47,280
Speaker 8: were like the super purveyors of play action, you know,

1198
01:01:47,360 --> 01:01:49,280
Speaker 8: during their first couple of seasons when they were with

1199
01:01:49,320 --> 01:01:52,080
Speaker 8: those teams, But now that they have you know, slightly

1200
01:01:52,080 --> 01:01:56,120
Speaker 8: better quarterback play, they're relying on more dropback passing. So

1201
01:01:56,680 --> 01:01:59,120
Speaker 8: there's just I think as long as you're different and

1202
01:01:59,240 --> 01:02:03,040
Speaker 8: doing a lot of different things and excelling there and

1203
01:02:03,080 --> 01:02:06,040
Speaker 8: you can't really and the defenses can't key on one

1204
01:02:06,080 --> 01:02:08,280
Speaker 8: thing and make you one dimensional no matter what that

1205
01:02:08,320 --> 01:02:10,640
Speaker 8: dimension is. I think that is going to be just

1206
01:02:10,680 --> 01:02:12,880
Speaker 8: kind of how these offenses try to stay one step

1207
01:02:12,880 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 8: ahead of defenses.

1208
01:02:14,120 --> 01:02:16,680
Speaker 1: All right, Dan, So you did your over under predictions

1209
01:02:16,720 --> 01:02:18,760
Speaker 1: for every team in the league this season. We'll kind

1210
01:02:18,760 --> 01:02:21,200
Speaker 1: of just stay focused on the AFC East in the

1211
01:02:21,200 --> 01:02:25,520
Speaker 1: interest of time. Here first and foremost, Bill's nine and

1212
01:02:25,560 --> 01:02:28,240
Speaker 1: a half. You took the over. You also took the

1213
01:02:28,320 --> 01:02:31,800
Speaker 1: over for the Dolphins with the same exact line. Jets

1214
01:02:31,800 --> 01:02:34,200
Speaker 1: you went under because they're at ten and a half,

1215
01:02:34,760 --> 01:02:37,160
Speaker 1: and Patriots you had over four and a half. Let's

1216
01:02:37,240 --> 01:02:40,680
Speaker 1: just start with Buffalo here. They do have the hardest

1217
01:02:40,680 --> 01:02:45,080
Speaker 1: schedule per DVOA, which is a bear if you look

1218
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:48,080
Speaker 1: at it, but you still go over. Tell me why.

1219
01:02:49,640 --> 01:02:53,080
Speaker 8: It's the quarterback? Really, I mean, when you have a quarterback,

1220
01:02:53,280 --> 01:02:56,040
Speaker 8: is that good it's going to go under? It's they're

1221
01:02:56,120 --> 01:02:58,520
Speaker 8: going to be nine and eight. That would be really

1222
01:02:58,560 --> 01:03:02,160
Speaker 8: hard to fathom were in an offense that I think

1223
01:03:02,280 --> 01:03:04,320
Speaker 8: is eventually going to click, even if it might not

1224
01:03:05,080 --> 01:03:09,120
Speaker 8: immediately early in the season, but again does help, you know,

1225
01:03:09,200 --> 01:03:12,120
Speaker 8: starting with a Cardinals defense that is gonna do some

1226
01:03:12,160 --> 01:03:14,320
Speaker 8: cool things, but does not really have the talent to

1227
01:03:14,760 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 8: hold up with some of the better offenses in the league.

1228
01:03:17,840 --> 01:03:21,760
Speaker 8: So when you look at what the offense should be

1229
01:03:22,160 --> 01:03:24,600
Speaker 8: at least by the middle of this season, and you

1230
01:03:24,640 --> 01:03:27,640
Speaker 8: look at this defense, again, there's always injuries, but you know,

1231
01:03:27,720 --> 01:03:30,360
Speaker 8: Shoe mc dermott has been a very good defensive coach

1232
01:03:30,520 --> 01:03:33,200
Speaker 8: during his tenure in Buffalo, and they've been able to

1233
01:03:33,280 --> 01:03:36,400
Speaker 8: keep very good units there even when there have been

1234
01:03:37,320 --> 01:03:40,360
Speaker 8: injuries all over. So I'm putting trust in a Sean

1235
01:03:40,440 --> 01:03:43,800
Speaker 8: McDermott defense and Josh Allen and I feel like that's

1236
01:03:43,920 --> 01:03:47,800
Speaker 8: you know, maybe the floor is ten wins, and ten

1237
01:03:47,840 --> 01:03:50,480
Speaker 8: wins would probably be a little disappointing based on what

1238
01:03:50,560 --> 01:03:53,000
Speaker 8: Buffalo has been over the past couple of years. But

1239
01:03:53,240 --> 01:03:55,600
Speaker 8: I find it very hard to just kind of sit

1240
01:03:55,640 --> 01:03:57,960
Speaker 8: here and think they're going to win nine games or a.

1241
01:03:58,040 --> 01:03:59,320
Speaker 1: Fewer last one for me.

1242
01:03:59,400 --> 01:04:02,200
Speaker 2: On the flip side, there, explain your reasoning going under

1243
01:04:02,240 --> 01:04:04,280
Speaker 2: ten and a half for the Jets. Is it just injuries?

1244
01:04:04,680 --> 01:04:06,560
Speaker 2: Is it that you don't think the roster is quite

1245
01:04:06,600 --> 01:04:09,680
Speaker 2: as good as maybe some of the other national analysts

1246
01:04:09,720 --> 01:04:11,840
Speaker 2: out there. The defense takes a step back. Just give

1247
01:04:11,880 --> 01:04:13,840
Speaker 2: your reasoning on going under on the Jets.

1248
01:04:14,400 --> 01:04:16,640
Speaker 8: Yeah, I mean for them to believe to ten and

1249
01:04:16,680 --> 01:04:19,200
Speaker 8: a half is kind of crazy and be the favorite

1250
01:04:19,200 --> 01:04:21,640
Speaker 8: in the AFCAS right now. They're one of those teams

1251
01:04:21,640 --> 01:04:23,640
Speaker 8: where I'm just going to have to see it for

1252
01:04:23,960 --> 01:04:27,080
Speaker 8: a couple of weeks to really get on board here,

1253
01:04:27,160 --> 01:04:28,720
Speaker 8: because this is.

1254
01:04:28,720 --> 01:04:29,320
Speaker 1: Still a team.

1255
01:04:29,360 --> 01:04:31,920
Speaker 8: Like they did bring in some guys who should be

1256
01:04:31,960 --> 01:04:34,360
Speaker 8: improvements over what they had last year, especially on the

1257
01:04:34,360 --> 01:04:38,440
Speaker 8: offensive line. But I mean, we have a forty forty

1258
01:04:38,480 --> 01:04:41,200
Speaker 8: one year old quarterback coming off in achilles injury the

1259
01:04:41,280 --> 01:04:43,960
Speaker 8: last time we saw him play a full season, Like

1260
01:04:44,040 --> 01:04:46,520
Speaker 8: he was not good. Like this was not the Aaron

1261
01:04:46,600 --> 01:04:49,520
Speaker 8: Rodgers we remember as like the back to back MVP

1262
01:04:49,720 --> 01:04:52,160
Speaker 8: winners that he did the two years prior to that.

1263
01:04:52,320 --> 01:04:55,120
Speaker 8: His final year in Green Bay was not very effective.

1264
01:04:55,160 --> 01:05:02,160
Speaker 8: He was like openly just kind of just acting out

1265
01:05:02,440 --> 01:05:05,560
Speaker 8: against the offense, Like during dropbacks, if you didn't like

1266
01:05:05,600 --> 01:05:07,600
Speaker 8: the play, he was just like throwing the ball away.

1267
01:05:07,840 --> 01:05:10,240
Speaker 8: He was in the bottom of third of EPA per

1268
01:05:10,240 --> 01:05:14,080
Speaker 8: play from a clean pocket in that season. So I'm

1269
01:05:14,200 --> 01:05:17,800
Speaker 8: going to have to see this offense especially really work.

1270
01:05:17,840 --> 01:05:19,920
Speaker 8: And then you're asking a defense to now be a

1271
01:05:19,920 --> 01:05:23,000
Speaker 8: top five unit for like the third or fourth year

1272
01:05:23,040 --> 01:05:25,320
Speaker 8: in a row, and that's just really difficult to do.

1273
01:05:25,720 --> 01:05:27,560
Speaker 8: They do have a lot of good pieces right now,

1274
01:05:27,640 --> 01:05:29,960
Speaker 8: but the defensive line is not quite as deep as

1275
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:32,680
Speaker 8: it has been. You don't have a son Reddick who

1276
01:05:32,720 --> 01:05:34,919
Speaker 8: you were hoping was going to step in and help there.

1277
01:05:35,240 --> 01:05:37,720
Speaker 8: So I think there is just a lot of fragility

1278
01:05:37,760 --> 01:05:39,840
Speaker 8: to what the Jets are and to say that they're

1279
01:05:39,840 --> 01:05:43,640
Speaker 8: going to win eleven games just off the bat is that.

1280
01:05:43,640 --> 01:05:47,480
Speaker 8: That's one of the more, you know, interesting lines that

1281
01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:49,840
Speaker 8: I just kind of did not get how high it's

1282
01:05:49,880 --> 01:05:52,360
Speaker 8: gone because that that hype has really kind of just

1283
01:05:52,440 --> 01:05:53,880
Speaker 8: taken on a life of its own, right.

1284
01:05:53,960 --> 01:05:56,640
Speaker 1: That's the New York hype machine for you. Dan, appreciate

1285
01:05:56,680 --> 01:05:59,160
Speaker 1: the time as always, We'll catch up with you down

1286
01:05:59,160 --> 01:06:00,680
Speaker 1: the line, but enjoy this are of the season.

1287
01:06:01,560 --> 01:06:02,560
Speaker 8: All right, Thanks you too.

1288
01:06:02,640 --> 01:06:05,600
Speaker 1: All Right, that's Dan Pizuda, NFL analyst for the thirty

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Speaker 1: third team. Mark I got some good things going there

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Speaker 1: that he's cranking out on a weekly basis, so be

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Speaker 1: sure to check him out over there at the thirty

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Speaker 1: third team dot Com. We got to get back to

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Speaker 1: the phones because we've been asking you today what will

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Speaker 1: a successful week one outing look like for the Bills

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Speaker 1: against Arizona on Sunday, and waiting patiently has been Fred

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Speaker 1: in Rochester. We'll go to him now. What's up, Fred?

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Speaker 9: Yeah, Hi, guys, how you doing? Thanks for taking my call? Sure, yeah,

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Speaker 9: this kind of as as far as what I would

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Speaker 9: like to see on the first game, I'm just looking

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Speaker 9: for a W. I'm looking for a W and a

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Speaker 9: fairly clean, cleanly fought game, you know, not too many

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Speaker 9: penalties because every team's in the same boat in his

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Speaker 9: first game. So that's what I'm looking for there. But

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Speaker 9: another thing I wanted to ask you guys this past

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Speaker 9: I guess it was Saturday, or maybe it was yesterday.

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Speaker 9: I don't know. I had on my phone and I

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Speaker 9: didn't I don't even know how it got there. But

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Speaker 9: the Rich Eisen Show that picked the Bills that's come

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Speaker 9: in third in the a f C East, and they

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Speaker 9: had I believe they had Miami first, the Jet second,

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Speaker 9: and the Bill's third, and I think ESPN somebody at

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Speaker 9: ESPN picked the same thing. I'm I know that we

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Speaker 9: suffer from Bill's myopia here. Uh, and this kind of

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Speaker 9: piggy piggybacks on the guy you just had on there.

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Speaker 9: I'm anxious to figure out or to see what you

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Speaker 9: guys think of that. Uh, being pretty familiar with the

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Speaker 9: a FC East and no one's going on this year

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Speaker 9: with them. Uh, that didn't seem right to me. But

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Speaker 9: I don't listen upon as much anyway, But I am

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Speaker 9: anxious to figure out what you guys think. I'll hang

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Speaker 9: up and hear your response that.

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Speaker 1: No, no problem, right. I would say this. Let me

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Speaker 1: you what everybody was saying last year. They were saying

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Speaker 1: that the Jets were going to run away with a

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Speaker 1: division and win the AFC. I actually heard that more

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Speaker 1: than once last year at this time. Obviously, the Aaron

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Speaker 1: Rodgers injury four plays into the season compromised everything for them,

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Speaker 1: primarily because they didn't have a backup plan. They did

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Speaker 1: not have a viable backup plan at the most important position.

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Speaker 1: So that's part of what ultimately sunk their season. And

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Speaker 1: I've said it on this show a lot of times

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Speaker 1: in the forty plus years that I've witnessed Jets football.

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Speaker 1: They are experts at one thing, self sabotage. They inevitably

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Speaker 1: find ways to screw it up. And the reason why

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Speaker 1: you see a show like a Rich Eisen Show, which

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Speaker 1: is a national show, rank the division as it is

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Speaker 1: and there are others doing the same as you mentioned

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Speaker 1: at ESPN, is because a lot of those people from

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Speaker 1: the ten thousand foot few look for name recognition, and

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Speaker 1: if there are names on a roster that they recognize,

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Speaker 1: it's bonus points for those teams. In inevitably, and I

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Speaker 1: don't know if people do that consciously or subconsciously, but

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Speaker 1: they look at the Dolphins roster and oh, Tyreek Hill's

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Speaker 1: still there. Oh uh, you know, Waddle's still there, and

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Speaker 1: oh they got Mostard and a chan in the running

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Speaker 1: in the running back room, and oh, look at this

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Speaker 1: on defense they added Jordan Poyer. I mean, they don't

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Speaker 1: even look to see that Jordan Poyer's thirty two years

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Speaker 1: old and is not the same player that he once was.

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Speaker 1: But it's name recognition value. And the same thing holds

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Speaker 1: for the Jets. The two tackles they added, Nobody apparently

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Speaker 1: from that vantage point, cares that they're thirty three and

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Speaker 1: thirty two years old and one has it made it

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Speaker 1: through a sixteen game season in three years? They just say, oh,

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Speaker 1: Tyron Smith, Perennial Poe Bowler, oh, Morgan Moses, like the

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Speaker 1: Jets they got they got even more stuff to work

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Speaker 1: with now. And that's how the conversation often goes. And

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Speaker 1: then they look at the Bills roster and what do

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Speaker 1: they say? No Digs, No Davis the most recognizable name

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Speaker 1: value at the receiver position for the Bills over the

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Speaker 1: last four years since Beasley left, And they say, oh,

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Speaker 1: they don't have that anymore. Oh no, Tredeavious White, Ah,

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Speaker 1: no Poyer in height? Oh my god, Like, how are

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Speaker 1: they going to win the division? So it goes mainly

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Speaker 1: on name recognition value. I've found more than anything else

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Speaker 1: with national pundits point no offense.

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Speaker 2: No, no, no, I mean that is totally spot on.

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Speaker 2: I agree with that. I think I come from a

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Speaker 2: different vantage point scouting these guys in the draft, where I, like,

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Speaker 2: have to know the.

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Speaker 1: Entire league and I have to know three hundred players.

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Speaker 1: I have to take a deeper dive.

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Speaker 2: Not saying that rich Eisen and his show aren't doing that,

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Speaker 2: but I think what you said is was is completely

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Speaker 2: spot on. The name recognition isn't there for the Bills

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Speaker 2: as it once was. What I find interesting about that,

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Speaker 2: outside of Diggs, which was a pretty seismic trade, the

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Speaker 2: Ohos Stars, the Jordan Poyers, the Micah Hydes, and Gabe Davis's,

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Speaker 2: they were all low level free agents, mid level guys,

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Speaker 2: fourth round picks the Bills have been able to show,

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Speaker 2: or even Tredevius White, one of the last picks in

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Speaker 2: the first round, this Bills team was not a team

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Speaker 2: that has won so many AFC East titles the last

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Speaker 2: three or four years with like fifteen first rounders and

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Speaker 2: now all those you know, top ten picks are gone.

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Speaker 2: They were able to do it patchwork and develop guys

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Speaker 2: like a Jordan Poyer turn him into an all pro

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Speaker 2: Micah Hide, same thing. Gabe Davis get the most that

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Speaker 2: you could really ever ask for out of a fourth

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Speaker 2: round pick at wide receiver. So that's kind of where

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Speaker 2: I mean. Outside of scouting the Cole Bishops and the

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Speaker 2: Javon Solomon's, I have faith in this whole organization from

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Speaker 2: Brandon Bean down to Sean McDermott to the assistant coaches

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Speaker 2: that they can take guys that don't have a lot

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Speaker 2: of name recognition. And Taron Johnson said this during camps

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Speaker 2: that this is where stars are born. When there's when

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Speaker 2: Matt mlonald goes down and you have a third round

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Speaker 2: pick where not too many super casual Bills fans know

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Speaker 2: a Dorian Williams suddenly. I mean, Matt Malone was a

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Speaker 2: fifth round pick and he was an undersized guy from

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Speaker 2: Boston College and he didn't start right away and then

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Speaker 2: was an All Pro. So I think because of that,

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Speaker 2: I have faith in this Bill's culture, their organization that

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Speaker 2: they can get the most out of lower level free agents,

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Speaker 2: guys on one year deals like a Leonard Floyd, and

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Speaker 2: mid round draft picks that you don't necessarily have to

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Speaker 2: hit a home run with your first rounder. That's why

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Speaker 2: I still think they can still be the same Bills

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Speaker 2: team that we've seen over the last five years.

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Speaker 1: And if you want to draw one difference between the

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Speaker 1: Jets and the and the Bills right now, that might

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Speaker 1: be the biggest one. Players come to Buffalo and whether

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Speaker 1: they're a draft pick or a veteran, they get better

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Speaker 1: ding ding ding players go to the Jets, and I

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Speaker 1: think you can count on one hand, over the last

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Speaker 1: over the last multiple coaching regimes, how many players have

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Speaker 1: gotten better after they get to the Jets.

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Speaker 2: And homegrown guys have developed? The only one homegrown guys

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Speaker 2: that they've developed. Yeah, exactly, that's.

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Speaker 1: Out of the way. I see those two organizations. Let's

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Speaker 1: go to Brian out in Hawaii. Up early, Brian, what

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Speaker 1: is going on?

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Speaker 5: Hello high?

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Speaker 10: Yeah, I'm a hollow man and there you go. So

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Speaker 10: as far as the successful season, and you know your

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Speaker 10: your previous pundit there about the receiving course. So here's

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Speaker 10: what I think. A successful season is forty seven points,

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Speaker 10: at least three receiving touchdowns, one of those by Kean Coleman,

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Speaker 10: a pick six. Kyer Elm would be my guy and

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Speaker 10: a safety. I think if we do that, we can

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Speaker 10: pretty much means that the other touchdowns are running touchdowns,

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Speaker 10: whether it's Josh Allen or one of the running backs

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Speaker 10: or a Curtis Samuel. So that's my think for a

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Speaker 10: successful season. Put the league on noticed, bills are coming.

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Speaker 1: Okay, wow, that is a comprehensive list.

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Speaker 2: I love this. Those fans are locked in on. We

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Speaker 2: realized they haven't.

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Speaker 1: Scored forty seven points since the perfect game in the playoffs, right, Like,

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Speaker 1: I don't think they've I don't think they've been higher

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Speaker 1: than forty seven since then. And they were humming then

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Speaker 1: and healthy and you know, perfect game. They scored a

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Speaker 1: touchdown every time they had the football, so awesome, and

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Speaker 1: it was awesome and apparently Brian wants that again. Look,

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Speaker 1: I'd love to have it too, but with all the

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Speaker 1: turnover in this offseason, man, that seems like a big ask.

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Speaker 1: I want to be that optimistic Brian, really I do,

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Speaker 1: But he's got a three receiving touchdowns. He wants a safety,

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Speaker 1: like safe don't happen very often. That's like where you

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Speaker 1: like call in this half, like four safeties a year

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Speaker 1: in the league on average. Brian wants it week one.

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Speaker 2: It's kind of out of the shoot, kind of like

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Speaker 2: where you bet on the Super Bowl, Like the first

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Speaker 2: points scored are going to be a safety and it's

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Speaker 2: like plus like ten thousand or something.

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Speaker 1: Crazy.

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Speaker 2: That's what Brian wants. Like, Okay, fair enough, we got

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Speaker 2: a cull from Hawaii.

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Speaker 1: That's pretty cool. Yeah, we'll take those anytime. So thanks

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Speaker 1: for getting up early with us, Brian. That's really cool.

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Speaker 1: Got to take a break here because we're up against

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Speaker 1: the clock, but we'll get back here. Take more of

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Speaker 1: your phone calls, Ken and Buffalo, Ryan and Toronto. You

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Speaker 1: guys are next up when we return here on One

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Speaker 1: Bill's Live presented by Kalide Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio.

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Speaker 1: All right back here on One Bill's Live on a Tuesday,

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Speaker 1: Chris Brown, Chris Trapasso with you and topic of discussion,

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Speaker 1: what will a successful week one outing look like to

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Speaker 1: you for the Bills when they take on the Cardinals

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Speaker 1: on Sunday at one pm. And back to the phones

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Speaker 1: we go and to Ken in Buffalo next. What's up Ken?

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Speaker 11: Good afternoon, Fella's good afternoon. As for the question at

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Speaker 11: the top of a hand, I Sudy want to address

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Speaker 11: it that there's a point I'd like to make as

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Speaker 11: an agenda, if you will. I think an ideal situation

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Speaker 11: would be for Josh to play his style of football.

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Speaker 11: And I believe that we did some really good things

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Speaker 11: with the running game, because, as the expression goes, the

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Speaker 11: running game is the quarterback's best friend. So I think

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Speaker 11: the Bills did the right thing by bringing in some

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Speaker 11: really good talent. I like Davis, I like Johnson as well.

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Speaker 11: For Blaship, but Davis in particular, when I saw the

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Speaker 11: tape on him when the Bills drafted him, he struck

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Speaker 11: me as being very much like Thrman Thomas, the kind

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Speaker 11: of running back who could make yards on his own,

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Speaker 11: was very at depth at making the first man miss

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Speaker 11: able to get to the outside, et cetera. But on

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Speaker 11: the point, I believe that running game is capable of

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Speaker 11: keeping Josh in third and manageable third and four, third

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Speaker 11: and five, wherein he could be especially difficult to contend with,

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Speaker 11: be it throwing and to show a passing game or

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Speaker 11: taking off getting those yards on his own. So I

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Speaker 11: see those as ideals scenarios where he could thrive and

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Speaker 11: demonstrate once again that he could have success as a

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Speaker 11: passer without relying on anyone wide receiving talent. In this case,

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Speaker 11: Digs is out of the way, So I think this

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Speaker 11: challenge is something he'll embrace and he'll rise to the occasion.

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Speaker 11: One question I could have a go at like a

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Speaker 11: lot of moves that we made in the offseason. A

1499
01:17:02,600 --> 01:17:05,640
Speaker 11: huge question rock in my mind is why didn't McDermott

1500
01:17:05,680 --> 01:17:08,800
Speaker 11: bring it a kicker to challenge Tyler Bad that's had

1501
01:17:08,840 --> 01:17:12,519
Speaker 11: a lot of critical misses last year. I remember distinctly

1502
01:17:12,520 --> 01:17:15,360
Speaker 11: after the Philadelphia Eagles game when he missed critical kicks.

1503
01:17:15,360 --> 01:17:18,559
Speaker 11: In that instance, a reporter asked him, ask McDermott that this,

1504
01:17:19,120 --> 01:17:21,639
Speaker 11: are you giving any thoughts of bringing in another kicker,

1505
01:17:21,920 --> 01:17:24,639
Speaker 11: to which he replied and I quote, I have faith

1506
01:17:24,720 --> 01:17:27,240
Speaker 11: in team ass unquote. Of course we saw what happened

1507
01:17:27,360 --> 01:17:30,720
Speaker 11: fast forward. He missed the kick against Pittsburg in the playoffs,

1508
01:17:30,800 --> 01:17:33,200
Speaker 11: and on the surface of the team insignificant because the

1509
01:17:33,240 --> 01:17:34,920
Speaker 11: Bills had control of the game, we were coming out

1510
01:17:34,960 --> 01:17:36,840
Speaker 11: of stretch to finish him off. But in my mind

1511
01:17:36,840 --> 01:17:39,320
Speaker 11: it was anything but insignificant, because I said to myself,

1512
01:17:39,400 --> 01:17:42,000
Speaker 11: what would have been the scenario had we needed that kick?

1513
01:17:42,040 --> 01:17:43,559
Speaker 11: What if we had needed that kick? And sure enough,

1514
01:17:43,560 --> 01:17:45,840
Speaker 11: the following week against Cassa City, we needed him to

1515
01:17:45,840 --> 01:17:47,240
Speaker 11: make a forty four yard kick.

1516
01:17:47,120 --> 01:17:47,719
Speaker 12: And he missed.

1517
01:17:47,920 --> 01:17:49,640
Speaker 11: Why did he bring us somebody to compete with him?

1518
01:17:49,680 --> 01:17:52,439
Speaker 11: Every other player on the roster's competing, even Josh's competing.

1519
01:17:52,520 --> 01:17:55,040
Speaker 11: He's out there lean by example, showing his backup how

1520
01:17:55,120 --> 01:17:57,519
Speaker 11: they need a quarterback the team. Everybody else has somebody

1521
01:17:57,560 --> 01:17:59,760
Speaker 11: to look over the shoulder and say, okay, somebody's here

1522
01:18:00,160 --> 01:18:02,240
Speaker 11: who's also competing for the slot that I'm at. He

1523
01:18:02,240 --> 01:18:04,479
Speaker 11: didn't have that, Sario, How does he get better? What

1524
01:18:04,560 --> 01:18:06,439
Speaker 11: happens if he's in a serial We have to make

1525
01:18:06,439 --> 01:18:09,000
Speaker 11: a kick either week one or anytime they're at. So

1526
01:18:09,040 --> 01:18:11,599
Speaker 11: I'm very concerned about that. Yeah, I like what we're

1527
01:18:11,600 --> 01:18:13,200
Speaker 11: doing with the safeties in the light with see how

1528
01:18:13,200 --> 01:18:14,720
Speaker 11: to play that. But I'm interested in your take on

1529
01:18:14,720 --> 01:18:16,920
Speaker 11: that situation with Tyler Bat, which in my view is

1530
01:18:16,960 --> 01:18:19,559
Speaker 11: a huge red flat. And he was questioning, I thank you, Kyne.

1531
01:18:19,680 --> 01:18:22,720
Speaker 1: Yeah, sure, think Ken, it's a valid concern. Sure, I

1532
01:18:22,720 --> 01:18:25,439
Speaker 1: think it's a valid concern. So I understand where you're

1533
01:18:25,439 --> 01:18:28,519
Speaker 1: coming from. And look, he hasn't looked great in the

1534
01:18:28,560 --> 01:18:30,919
Speaker 1: practice setting. He was five or six in the preseason,

1535
01:18:31,000 --> 01:18:32,639
Speaker 1: but he only had one kick I think over thirty

1536
01:18:32,640 --> 01:18:34,280
Speaker 1: one yards and it was a fifty one yarder and

1537
01:18:34,280 --> 01:18:37,800
Speaker 1: he didn't make it. Tyler Bass would be the first

1538
01:18:37,800 --> 01:18:40,840
Speaker 1: person to tell you that his statistics last year were

1539
01:18:40,880 --> 01:18:43,640
Speaker 1: not up to his standard, certainly not the standard of

1540
01:18:43,640 --> 01:18:47,400
Speaker 1: what he had set the three previous years. So there's

1541
01:18:47,439 --> 01:18:53,080
Speaker 1: that first off the bat and he is very self critical. Truthfully,

1542
01:18:53,120 --> 01:18:55,840
Speaker 1: I just think he's got to get his mojo back.

1543
01:18:56,600 --> 01:18:59,960
Speaker 1: I think he's he's had a little bit of a

1544
01:19:00,040 --> 01:19:03,559
Speaker 1: struggle with his own self confidence, and previously that was

1545
01:19:03,680 --> 01:19:07,120
Speaker 1: never a problem. And the biggest difference I have seen

1546
01:19:07,160 --> 01:19:12,000
Speaker 1: in him in this preseason is his approach is different

1547
01:19:12,960 --> 01:19:17,120
Speaker 1: on kicks of varying distances, and that was never the

1548
01:19:17,160 --> 01:19:20,040
Speaker 1: case before. Bass would come out on the field and

1549
01:19:20,120 --> 01:19:22,880
Speaker 1: he would nut that ball as hard as he can,

1550
01:19:23,160 --> 01:19:25,680
Speaker 1: whether it's from twenty four yards, forty five yards, or

1551
01:19:25,720 --> 01:19:28,519
Speaker 1: fifty eight yards. He hit it the same exact way

1552
01:19:28,640 --> 01:19:31,640
Speaker 1: every single time. And now, at least from what I

1553
01:19:31,680 --> 01:19:34,840
Speaker 1: saw in the preseason games, he popped one up to

1554
01:19:34,880 --> 01:19:38,599
Speaker 1: make sure it went through. He had a different approach,

1555
01:19:38,720 --> 01:19:41,120
Speaker 1: it seemed, at least based on how the ball came

1556
01:19:41,160 --> 01:19:46,080
Speaker 1: off his foot, and so I think he's trying to

1557
01:19:46,160 --> 01:19:51,280
Speaker 1: rediscover his swing. I think once he does that, he'll

1558
01:19:51,280 --> 01:19:53,599
Speaker 1: have his mojo back and be good to go. I mean,

1559
01:19:53,680 --> 01:19:55,280
Speaker 1: you remember when he came out, this was a guy

1560
01:19:55,560 --> 01:19:58,679
Speaker 1: swaggerfeld Man. He had one eye, black under one eye.

1561
01:19:59,360 --> 01:20:02,799
Speaker 1: You know, he was celebrating after long kick. He actually

1562
01:20:02,880 --> 01:20:07,120
Speaker 1: lifted weights like he had biceps, like not big, but

1563
01:20:07,400 --> 01:20:09,599
Speaker 1: for a kicker, he had biceps or how many kickers

1564
01:20:09,600 --> 01:20:10,840
Speaker 1: with biceps.

1565
01:20:10,400 --> 01:20:10,600
Speaker 3: You know.

1566
01:20:10,840 --> 01:20:13,400
Speaker 1: So he had this like attitude coming into the league

1567
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:17,640
Speaker 1: that way, and I think it kept him sharp and

1568
01:20:17,800 --> 01:20:20,439
Speaker 1: at his best all the time. It was like, screw you,

1569
01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,360
Speaker 1: screw you, and screw you. I don't care if I'm

1570
01:20:22,360 --> 01:20:24,880
Speaker 1: from Georgia Southern. I'm gonna put this fifty eight yarder

1571
01:20:24,920 --> 01:20:26,519
Speaker 1: through and you're gonna like it. Yeah. And one of

1572
01:20:26,520 --> 01:20:31,639
Speaker 1: his best games was against the Cardinals in that Hail

1573
01:20:31,720 --> 01:20:34,879
Speaker 1: Murray game. Oh yeah, he had two fifty eight yarders

1574
01:20:34,920 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: and I think a fifty five yarder And that's what

1575
01:20:37,200 --> 01:20:41,400
Speaker 1: Iron Eagle said basismatic in the game. Man, that's good bass.

1576
01:20:41,439 --> 01:20:43,759
Speaker 1: I mean, he was killing it in that game. Maybe

1577
01:20:43,760 --> 01:20:46,000
Speaker 1: this is a way to rediscover that. Now, the question

1578
01:20:46,240 --> 01:20:49,080
Speaker 1: why did they not bring any competition? And they could

1579
01:20:49,080 --> 01:20:52,360
Speaker 1: have done it right, there's no reason they didn't have to,

1580
01:20:53,840 --> 01:20:56,840
Speaker 1: even if it's just to nudge him through the preseason,

1581
01:20:57,160 --> 01:21:00,200
Speaker 1: because I gotta tell you, the money doesn't really put

1582
01:21:00,240 --> 01:21:03,439
Speaker 1: them in a position to release him. He just signed

1583
01:21:03,479 --> 01:21:06,080
Speaker 1: a contract extension last year. He's only in year two

1584
01:21:06,120 --> 01:21:08,599
Speaker 1: of it, and if they if they move him off

1585
01:21:08,640 --> 01:21:11,559
Speaker 1: the roster, it's a seven point three million dollar capit.

1586
01:21:11,600 --> 01:21:13,200
Speaker 1: They can't afford that. Right now.

1587
01:21:13,280 --> 01:21:15,519
Speaker 2: So that's what I think is probably the main reason

1588
01:21:15,560 --> 01:21:17,280
Speaker 2: why they did it. I think it's a it's a

1589
01:21:17,280 --> 01:21:19,880
Speaker 2: fair concern. Everything you said, Chris is totally spot on,

1590
01:21:20,280 --> 01:21:23,000
Speaker 2: but because of the money they can't afford it, you

1591
01:21:23,040 --> 01:21:24,920
Speaker 2: could say, hey, well they maybe should have nudged him.

1592
01:21:24,920 --> 01:21:27,559
Speaker 2: I think we can all agree that kicking in the NFL,

1593
01:21:27,560 --> 01:21:29,479
Speaker 2: all these guys are super talented, and Bass has one

1594
01:21:29,479 --> 01:21:31,800
Speaker 2: of the biggest legs in the league. It is to me,

1595
01:21:32,080 --> 01:21:35,160
Speaker 2: and I'm not an expert on the fundamentals and the

1596
01:21:35,200 --> 01:21:38,640
Speaker 2: technique of kicking, but it's like ninety percent mental. So

1597
01:21:38,760 --> 01:21:41,639
Speaker 2: I think bringing in someone then suddenly Bass is thinking, man,

1598
01:21:41,680 --> 01:21:43,160
Speaker 2: they really don't have any confidence in me.

1599
01:21:43,680 --> 01:21:46,479
Speaker 1: But the other side of that coin is I think

1600
01:21:46,520 --> 01:21:48,880
Speaker 1: Bass is a badass. Like though, I think if you

1601
01:21:48,920 --> 01:21:53,160
Speaker 1: bring in competition for him, I think it in bolded him. Okay,

1602
01:21:53,360 --> 01:21:55,120
Speaker 1: I think it could work the other way. So I

1603
01:21:55,200 --> 01:21:58,320
Speaker 1: wasn't totally opposed to it. They brought in punting competition

1604
01:21:58,360 --> 01:22:00,960
Speaker 1: for Sam Martin in the rookie undrafted kid that they

1605
01:22:01,000 --> 01:22:05,840
Speaker 1: had in Jack Browning, So I mean, I don't know, Yeah,

1606
01:22:05,840 --> 01:22:08,160
Speaker 1: you could make an argument for it, and who knows,

1607
01:22:08,320 --> 01:22:11,439
Speaker 1: maybe if the season doesn't start so well for him,

1608
01:22:11,720 --> 01:22:13,680
Speaker 1: maybe they throw one on the practice squad just to

1609
01:22:13,720 --> 01:22:15,960
Speaker 1: have somebody behind him. In practice. There's a lot of kickers,

1610
01:22:16,200 --> 01:22:18,519
Speaker 1: like you're on notice, and you know him and his

1611
01:22:18,600 --> 01:22:21,320
Speaker 1: agent may very well know, like, look, you can't really

1612
01:22:21,320 --> 01:22:23,720
Speaker 1: move on for me, even if you want, because of

1613
01:22:23,760 --> 01:22:28,120
Speaker 1: the money situation. But look, if the Bills are in

1614
01:22:28,160 --> 01:22:31,080
Speaker 1: a lot more tighter games this year, which division wise

1615
01:22:31,120 --> 01:22:34,080
Speaker 1: could could be, you could see that happening. He's even

1616
01:22:34,120 --> 01:22:36,800
Speaker 1: more important. So I think we all just got to

1617
01:22:37,040 --> 01:22:39,599
Speaker 1: hope he rediscovers his swing and gets his mojo back,

1618
01:22:39,640 --> 01:22:43,320
Speaker 1: because when he's on, he's a top six to seven

1619
01:22:43,400 --> 01:22:46,760
Speaker 1: kicker in the league for sure, maybe top five. He's

1620
01:22:46,800 --> 01:22:48,559
Speaker 1: just got to get back to that place, and hopefully

1621
01:22:48,560 --> 01:22:51,799
Speaker 1: that happens sooner rather than later. Let's go to Ryan

1622
01:22:51,960 --> 01:22:54,679
Speaker 1: in Toronto. What you got first, Ryan Guy?

1623
01:22:55,040 --> 01:22:59,040
Speaker 12: Hey, guys, love this show, great topic. Welcome to week one. Yes,

1624
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,280
Speaker 12: I hope the Bills do not overlook the corners and

1625
01:23:05,320 --> 01:23:08,040
Speaker 12: look ahead to the Dolphins. If they do, man, they're

1626
01:23:08,040 --> 01:23:11,800
Speaker 12: in big trouble. Then they have Dolphins on a should week.

1627
01:23:12,240 --> 01:23:15,120
Speaker 12: They got to Jagauas, which now they're not really good

1628
01:23:15,200 --> 01:23:20,200
Speaker 12: at against, and the Raymond takes sense gets they need

1629
01:23:20,240 --> 01:23:23,639
Speaker 12: to come out firing and come out firing strong early

1630
01:23:23,840 --> 01:23:24,760
Speaker 12: and keep it that way.

1631
01:23:24,960 --> 01:23:26,160
Speaker 1: Yeah that's a great point.

1632
01:23:26,240 --> 01:23:29,639
Speaker 2: Yeah, absolutely, I think the Bills probably now even though

1633
01:23:29,640 --> 01:23:32,200
Speaker 2: there's so many new players on this team there are

1634
01:23:32,320 --> 01:23:34,720
Speaker 2: there is still a nice core of captains and Sean

1635
01:23:34,760 --> 01:23:38,679
Speaker 2: mcdermot's entering his eighth season. They won't overlook this Cardinals team.

1636
01:23:38,720 --> 01:23:40,240
Speaker 2: That's not to say that the Bills are just gonna

1637
01:23:40,280 --> 01:23:42,880
Speaker 2: breeze and win fifty to nothing or forty seven points

1638
01:23:42,920 --> 01:23:46,840
Speaker 2: whatever that others. Yeah, I don't know if we'll get that,

1639
01:23:47,000 --> 01:23:50,040
Speaker 2: but I think this with a quarterback like Josh Allen,

1640
01:23:51,200 --> 01:23:53,360
Speaker 2: that's a veteran that's been there, that's an elite player,

1641
01:23:53,400 --> 01:23:55,840
Speaker 2: and Sean McDermott is detail oriented as he is, I

1642
01:23:55,840 --> 01:23:58,519
Speaker 2: would be surprised if they're just like sleep walking the

1643
01:23:58,560 --> 01:23:59,639
Speaker 2: first three quarters in this game.

1644
01:23:59,760 --> 01:24:02,639
Speaker 1: Right. First thing you need to know. First of all, Ryan,

1645
01:24:02,840 --> 01:24:04,640
Speaker 1: I'm worried about you, man. You carry a lot of

1646
01:24:04,680 --> 01:24:07,120
Speaker 1: anxiety with this team, like more than the average Bills fan.

1647
01:24:07,160 --> 01:24:10,360
Speaker 1: He always calls up, he usually has a concern and

1648
01:24:10,439 --> 01:24:13,479
Speaker 1: some of them are valid, But Ryan, we got a breathe, man,

1649
01:24:13,520 --> 01:24:15,400
Speaker 1: We're not even at week one. You haven't kicked it

1650
01:24:15,439 --> 01:24:19,599
Speaker 1: off yet. First thing you have to know is coach

1651
01:24:19,680 --> 01:24:24,720
Speaker 1: McDermott teams are conditioned to focus on the game that

1652
01:24:24,800 --> 01:24:27,040
Speaker 1: is in front of them, not the one that's down

1653
01:24:27,040 --> 01:24:31,439
Speaker 1: the line, and it is preached at nauseum here. Second

1654
01:24:31,720 --> 01:24:34,200
Speaker 1: to Chris's point, it's the first game of the season.

1655
01:24:34,800 --> 01:24:38,240
Speaker 1: They've been waiting, not six seven months to play regular

1656
01:24:38,320 --> 01:24:41,640
Speaker 1: season football. They're gonna be frothing at the mouth to

1657
01:24:41,720 --> 01:24:44,960
Speaker 1: play the Cardinals, even though it is a division game

1658
01:24:45,000 --> 01:24:48,280
Speaker 1: coming up, and on a very short week. Mind you,

1659
01:24:49,200 --> 01:24:54,679
Speaker 1: I can't see them looking past the Cardinals, especially knowing

1660
01:24:54,720 --> 01:24:57,880
Speaker 1: this is a new iteration of the Bills. You know,

1661
01:24:57,920 --> 01:25:02,120
Speaker 1: it's not the hide Poyer White, Mitch Morse gave Davis

1662
01:25:02,120 --> 01:25:05,080
Speaker 1: Stefan Diggs Bills. This is a new iteration of this team.

1663
01:25:05,400 --> 01:25:08,600
Speaker 1: I think they are eager to prove themselves, and I

1664
01:25:08,600 --> 01:25:11,599
Speaker 1: think they've got to do that in Week one. Now

1665
01:25:12,040 --> 01:25:17,439
Speaker 1: that being said, I would not be surprised if lower

1666
01:25:17,560 --> 01:25:21,480
Speaker 1: level members of the coaching staff are already working on Miami,

1667
01:25:21,680 --> 01:25:24,160
Speaker 1: knowing the short week it is and how they have

1668
01:25:24,280 --> 01:25:27,200
Speaker 1: to flip the script very quickly to week two because

1669
01:25:27,240 --> 01:25:29,960
Speaker 1: it is a road game. On top of that, So

1670
01:25:30,880 --> 01:25:33,880
Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if there are lower level members

1671
01:25:33,920 --> 01:25:36,519
Speaker 1: of the staff that are already working with the advanced

1672
01:25:36,520 --> 01:25:40,000
Speaker 1: scouting team on all the elements of getting ready for Miami.

1673
01:25:40,120 --> 01:25:42,639
Speaker 1: So it's plug and play on Monday for the coaches,

1674
01:25:43,160 --> 01:25:46,280
Speaker 1: game plan in and then let's go through a couple

1675
01:25:46,320 --> 01:25:49,200
Speaker 1: of walkthroughs and get ready for a game. I could

1676
01:25:49,360 --> 01:25:51,400
Speaker 1: see that happening, But as far as the players and

1677
01:25:51,920 --> 01:25:55,960
Speaker 1: the coaches that are calling plays, it's Arizona all the time,

1678
01:25:56,120 --> 01:25:58,920
Speaker 1: every day until you get to Sunday at five pm,

1679
01:25:59,240 --> 01:26:02,519
Speaker 1: and even then your make corrections from the tape. So

1680
01:26:03,320 --> 01:26:05,639
Speaker 1: I would be very surprised. This is not a team

1681
01:26:05,640 --> 01:26:08,960
Speaker 1: that typically overlooks opponents. I could probably count on three

1682
01:26:09,000 --> 01:26:11,519
Speaker 1: fingers how many times you can even make a case

1683
01:26:11,560 --> 01:26:15,760
Speaker 1: that that happened, not saying it hasn't happened, but very

1684
01:26:15,760 --> 01:26:19,400
Speaker 1: few and far between for Coach McDermott coach clubs. Let's

1685
01:26:19,400 --> 01:26:20,880
Speaker 1: go to the tweet sheet, which is brought to you

1686
01:26:20,960 --> 01:26:23,560
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1687
01:26:23,560 --> 01:26:26,400
Speaker 1: Buffalo Bills. What will a successful Week one outing look

1688
01:26:26,479 --> 01:26:29,360
Speaker 1: like to you? For the Bills? Christopher says, a solid

1689
01:26:29,400 --> 01:26:32,280
Speaker 1: win thirty four to seventeen. Defense looks good and offense

1690
01:26:32,360 --> 01:26:33,080
Speaker 1: looks in sync.

1691
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,160
Speaker 2: I promise that's not for me. I mean that's Christopher,

1692
01:26:35,160 --> 01:26:36,200
Speaker 2: but that's literally an.

1693
01:26:36,600 --> 01:26:37,599
Speaker 1: There's a lot of us out there.

1694
01:26:37,640 --> 01:26:41,000
Speaker 2: Thirty fours under twenty points, over thirty points for the Bills,

1695
01:26:41,000 --> 01:26:43,559
Speaker 2: offense under twenty points for the Cardinals. I think that

1696
01:26:43,560 --> 01:26:46,640
Speaker 2: would be successful. So that Chris and me we see this.

1697
01:26:46,840 --> 01:26:50,040
Speaker 1: That's a resounding and opening act for sure. Joey says,

1698
01:26:50,120 --> 01:26:52,479
Speaker 1: A sound victory by seven to ten points. Some solid

1699
01:26:52,520 --> 01:26:56,280
Speaker 1: chemistry with the wide receiving corps, A nice Coleman touchdown play. Yeah,

1700
01:26:56,320 --> 01:27:00,000
Speaker 1: I mean look much like Dalton Kincaid. They have found

1701
01:27:00,040 --> 01:27:03,799
Speaker 1: as track to Keon Coleman through training camp in the preseason. Granted,

1702
01:27:03,800 --> 01:27:06,679
Speaker 1: his preseason playing time was probably less than we saw

1703
01:27:06,720 --> 01:27:10,439
Speaker 1: from Kincaid for various reasons, but him getting off to

1704
01:27:10,479 --> 01:27:12,639
Speaker 1: a fast start I think would excite the fan base

1705
01:27:13,200 --> 01:27:16,640
Speaker 1: even more about what's to come. For sure, we are

1706
01:27:16,720 --> 01:27:18,439
Speaker 1: up against the clock. Got to take a break here,

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Speaker 1: some final thoughts on the tweetsheet when we return. Chris Brown,

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Speaker 1: Chris Terrapasso with you here on One Bill's Live presented

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Speaker 1: by Colid of Health, It's Buffalo Bills Radio final segment

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Speaker 1: here on a Tuesday, and thanks for all the submissions here.

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Speaker 1: What will a successful Week one outing look like to

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Speaker 1: you for the Bills on the tweets sheet from Bill's banter.

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Speaker 1: A win without any injuries that highlights the improvements we

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Speaker 1: saw at the end of last year under Joe Brady,

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Speaker 1: along with communication and chemistry with the wide receivers and

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Speaker 1: the secondary. That's been a popular answer to you.

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Speaker 2: Yes, people are very interested to see being lined upright

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Speaker 2: timing of the passing game, which coach McDermott earlier in

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Speaker 2: the preseason did say it is something he's concerned about.

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Speaker 1: Hopefully those concerns disappear on Sunday and they look like

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Speaker 1: they are in sync. It's a very hard thing to

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Speaker 1: capture when the volume of new players is as large

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Speaker 1: as it is for Buffalo's receiving goal. Yeah.

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Speaker 2: Absolutely, And I think you know, not having where Josh

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Speaker 2: Allen throws it to the left and Ken Coleman breaks

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Speaker 2: into the right, the timing, the connection, understanding that that

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Speaker 2: rapport needs to get established relatively soon, because like our

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Speaker 2: last caller said, I like the after this opening week

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Speaker 2: it is kind of a pretty tough gamut of games

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Speaker 2: for the Bills.

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Speaker 1: Eric on the tweets, she says, it just can't look hard.

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Speaker 1: Doesn't have to be a blowout wind, but they need

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Speaker 1: to look under control, buttoned up in all three phases.

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Speaker 1: We obviously won't score every drive and shut them out,

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Speaker 1: but we can't stall on drives for no reason or

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Speaker 1: have a glaring d weakness that makes you go yikes. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: the self inflicted wounds, you'd prefer not to see him

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Speaker 1: week one. You kind of feel like they may happen

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Speaker 1: a little bit. One of the main reasons why is,

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Speaker 1: when you think about it, this starting offense hasn't played

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Speaker 1: as a unit since Week two of the preseason, and

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Speaker 1: that was without Josh as the quarterback because Trubisky started

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Speaker 1: the game. So now you're two weeks removed from that

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Speaker 1: and to get ramped back up to regular season speed,

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Speaker 1: there's gonna be a couple of hiccups.

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Speaker 2: You gotta think, Yeah, probably, just as long as it's

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Speaker 2: not anything super critical where it leads to a scoop

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Speaker 2: and score touchdown, or if there's two or three of those,

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Speaker 2: they lead to the Cardinals having the football really intight.

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Speaker 2: You just want to stay away from those being big

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Speaker 2: plays in the game.

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Speaker 1: As we said, thanks for all the submissions today and

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Speaker 1: all the phone calls as well. We went as far

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Speaker 1: out west as Hawaii as far north as Toronto, so

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Speaker 1: thanks for chiming in. We'll catch it tomorrow at one

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Speaker 1: as we discuss Bill's Cardinals. More players back on the

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Speaker 1: practice field as well. We'll see you then.