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Speaker 1: Ridiculous History is a production of I Heart Radio. Welcome

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Speaker 1: to the show, Ridiculous Historians. Thank you so much for

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Speaker 1: tuning in to another heist episode. Yeah, well, what do

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Speaker 1: you have those Oceans eleven movies? Man? You know, heist

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Speaker 1: you know. And you're a big fan of the whole

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Speaker 1: ensemble of a heist crew, aren't you. That's the thing

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Speaker 1: you're asking new friends. You're like, who would you want

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Speaker 1: to be? And I always say the bag Man, even

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Speaker 1: though I don't really know what the bag Man does?

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Speaker 1: Sounds like a cool title. Who would you be? Ben?

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Speaker 1: Do you? Did you even go so far as to

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Speaker 1: Ben Bullen, and I typically ask people just to keep

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Speaker 1: Partly it's a way to get to know people, but

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Speaker 1: also it's a way to know in advance what someone

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Speaker 1: feels their set of skills would be. In case you're

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Speaker 1: ever in this situation. I've of course asked our super

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Speaker 1: producer Casey Pegram what his heist position would be. But

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Speaker 1: you know what, maybe we should ask just while we're here,

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Speaker 1: since we're all film buffs, Casey, what do you think

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Speaker 1: of heist films in general? I think it's great anytime

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Speaker 1: predetermined steaks set up and then everything else is just

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Speaker 1: sort of like built around that. Um so everyone's got

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Speaker 1: and then you've got the are they going to pull

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Speaker 1: more about an individual, less about a crew. It is

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Speaker 1: one of my personal favorite names in historical uh confidence men. Yeah,

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Speaker 1: He ran in because as we will learn, Thomas Blood's

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Speaker 1: life involved messing with a lot of strange, controversial, dare

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Speaker 1: know about this Thomas Blood guy. Well, I'll tell you

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Speaker 1: one thing we do know. Um. You know when people say, oh,

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Speaker 1: And that is what our boy, Colonel Blood had his

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Speaker 1: was kind of his uh, his coup de gras, but

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Speaker 1: He was born um an Irishman in County Meath in

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Speaker 1: He has a plan to hang the Duke. This time

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Speaker 1: this kindly gentleman. He doesn't steal anything, doesn't see anything.

424
00:24:20,359 --> 00:24:21,879
Speaker 1: And then a couple of days later, he came back

425
00:24:21,920 --> 00:24:26,560
Speaker 1: with a gift for uh Talbot's wife. It was four

426
00:24:26,680 --> 00:24:32,000
Speaker 1: pairs of white gloves. Then following that, several weeks later,

427
00:24:32,320 --> 00:24:38,720
Speaker 1: the colonel created this entire kind of backstory. He really

428
00:24:38,960 --> 00:24:43,959
Speaker 1: ingratiated himself into a relationship and actual friendship with Edwards

429
00:24:43,960 --> 00:24:48,280
Speaker 1: and his family and started visiting there frequently. Um. And

430
00:24:48,440 --> 00:24:50,280
Speaker 1: you know at this point, you know, every time he

431
00:24:50,280 --> 00:24:52,760
Speaker 1: would visit, he would take a look around and get

432
00:24:52,800 --> 00:24:55,600
Speaker 1: a sense of the exits and entrances and all of

433
00:24:55,640 --> 00:24:59,920
Speaker 1: the weaknesses and really really earned the trust of this couple.

434
00:25:00,800 --> 00:25:04,920
Speaker 1: Really uh some conniving stuff. And he says, he says,

435
00:25:05,160 --> 00:25:09,119
Speaker 1: you know, Edwards, you and I were buddies. You know,

436
00:25:09,280 --> 00:25:11,400
Speaker 1: you met my wife, I met your wife. I got

437
00:25:11,400 --> 00:25:15,600
Speaker 1: you some gloves. We love hanging out and I want

438
00:25:15,600 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: to be honest with you. Your daughter is not married

439
00:25:18,880 --> 00:25:22,679
Speaker 1: and an hour day and age. That's really weird. So uh,

440
00:25:22,720 --> 00:25:25,800
Speaker 1: I have a nephew who's also a little weird. And

441
00:25:26,400 --> 00:25:29,480
Speaker 1: also unmarried. So why do you know, why don't we

442
00:25:29,600 --> 00:25:32,520
Speaker 1: help each other out a little bit and get these

443
00:25:32,600 --> 00:25:38,040
Speaker 1: kids hitched up. Edwards says, oh, what a fantastic idea. Yes,

444
00:25:38,280 --> 00:25:42,000
Speaker 1: please bring the nephew over for a meeting as soon

445
00:25:42,200 --> 00:25:47,160
Speaker 1: as you can, as soon as convenient, and Blood says, oh, yes, absolutely,

446
00:25:47,240 --> 00:25:50,959
Speaker 1: and then he leaves and he uh, he starts looking

447
00:25:51,000 --> 00:25:54,080
Speaker 1: for a nephew, because the one thing about the story

448
00:25:54,160 --> 00:25:57,000
Speaker 1: he was telling Edwards was that this nephew he described

449
00:25:57,320 --> 00:26:02,679
Speaker 1: does not exist. So maynae. It's about seven in the morning.

450
00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,159
Speaker 1: Blood gets to the Tower of London. He's got his

451
00:26:06,280 --> 00:26:09,400
Speaker 1: crew together. Here's here are the members of his crew.

452
00:26:09,680 --> 00:26:13,119
Speaker 1: His son also named Thomas, who's going to pose as

453
00:26:13,200 --> 00:26:18,560
Speaker 1: the nephew, and then Robert Perrot, Richard Halliwell and William Smith.

454
00:26:19,000 --> 00:26:21,840
Speaker 1: Each of these three men and I think the sun

455
00:26:21,920 --> 00:26:25,000
Speaker 1: as well had strapped. Yeah, they were strapped. They had

456
00:26:25,040 --> 00:26:27,960
Speaker 1: pistols and they had daggers. And then Blood was still

457
00:26:28,119 --> 00:26:30,399
Speaker 1: dressed as a priest that's so cool, or a parson.

458
00:26:30,520 --> 00:26:35,200
Speaker 1: Rather he hid a wooden mallet inside his robes. So

459
00:26:35,320 --> 00:26:38,000
Speaker 1: he's kind of like you remember how in Tombstone, Doc

460
00:26:38,040 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: Holiday has the shotgun under his trench coach. He's pulling

461
00:26:41,359 --> 00:26:44,119
Speaker 1: that kind of move, which to me, just the image

462
00:26:44,119 --> 00:26:48,439
Speaker 1: of this is fantastic. Was this mallet a weapon he

463
00:26:48,520 --> 00:26:50,480
Speaker 1: was gonna bonk people with this mallet? Or was it

464
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:53,560
Speaker 1: like a tool for for breaking an entering? Both? He

465
00:26:53,720 --> 00:26:56,520
Speaker 1: just he he was a b a who needed a hammer.

466
00:26:57,520 --> 00:26:59,960
Speaker 1: So all the while Smith is waiting with a gang

467
00:27:00,119 --> 00:27:03,720
Speaker 1: of horses uh near the entrance to the tower. The

468
00:27:03,760 --> 00:27:08,560
Speaker 1: tower gates um And that is when Perot, Thomas the Sun,

469
00:27:09,000 --> 00:27:12,680
Speaker 1: and Blood, the leaders still posing as the parson, go

470
00:27:13,000 --> 00:27:17,960
Speaker 1: and meet with Talbot Um of course, introducing his son

471
00:27:18,119 --> 00:27:20,880
Speaker 1: as the nephew in question and Perot as a as

472
00:27:20,880 --> 00:27:23,920
Speaker 1: a family friend or something, and says, hey, I got

473
00:27:23,920 --> 00:27:26,800
Speaker 1: a fun idea or waiting for your daughter to come around,

474
00:27:27,200 --> 00:27:29,560
Speaker 1: why don't you give us a tour. You're the tour guy, right,

475
00:27:29,640 --> 00:27:31,240
Speaker 1: give us a tour, give us a little peek at

476
00:27:31,280 --> 00:27:34,240
Speaker 1: the old Crown jewels. And he's like, I do keep

477
00:27:34,320 --> 00:27:38,960
Speaker 1: the jewels. Yes, yes, here here, follow me please, and

478
00:27:39,359 --> 00:27:43,440
Speaker 1: he's unlocking the door. And as soon as the tumblers click.

479
00:27:43,800 --> 00:27:46,359
Speaker 1: As soon as the door is unlocked, Blood and his

480
00:27:46,560 --> 00:27:52,480
Speaker 1: cronies gag, gag Talbot edwards this guy's seventy seven years old. Boy,

481
00:27:52,720 --> 00:27:55,120
Speaker 1: they throw a sack over his head. He doesn't take

482
00:27:55,119 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: it laid down. He tries to fight back, and that's

483
00:27:57,119 --> 00:28:00,240
Speaker 1: when Blood takes out his mallet and as you said,

484
00:28:00,720 --> 00:28:03,719
Speaker 1: bunks the crap out of him. So he's gagged, black

485
00:28:03,800 --> 00:28:10,000
Speaker 1: bagged and bombed, and uh he is so this makes

486
00:28:10,040 --> 00:28:15,359
Speaker 1: him lose consciousness just for extra uh, just for some

487
00:28:15,440 --> 00:28:19,080
Speaker 1: extra bells and whistles. Blood also stabs this old man

488
00:28:19,280 --> 00:28:22,159
Speaker 1: in the gut, but as will come to find, Blood

489
00:28:22,200 --> 00:28:24,679
Speaker 1: is very bad at killing people. So this guy is

490
00:28:24,680 --> 00:28:28,119
Speaker 1: bleeding out and the robbers tear off the grate, remember

491
00:28:28,119 --> 00:28:31,480
Speaker 1: that metal great we described earlier protecting the jewels, And

492
00:28:31,480 --> 00:28:35,520
Speaker 1: then they start trying to re fashion this stuff to

493
00:28:35,640 --> 00:28:38,760
Speaker 1: make it easier to take away with them. So the

494
00:28:38,800 --> 00:28:43,600
Speaker 1: colonel uses his mallet and U slams on the imperial

495
00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,680
Speaker 1: crown until he makes it like a flat plate. And

496
00:28:46,720 --> 00:28:50,560
Speaker 1: then his son, who is not super intelligent, begins trying

497
00:28:50,600 --> 00:28:53,920
Speaker 1: to saw the scepter and half because he can't fit

498
00:28:53,960 --> 00:28:58,120
Speaker 1: it in the back. Right. Well, I think like time

499
00:28:58,120 --> 00:28:59,920
Speaker 1: and a place. You know, at that point you're at

500
00:28:59,920 --> 00:29:01,440
Speaker 1: the level the higst where you have to think of

501
00:29:01,480 --> 00:29:04,280
Speaker 1: your time management. But I love how this whole thing

502
00:29:04,400 --> 00:29:07,880
Speaker 1: feels like a Quentin Tarantino film. Tarantino, if you're listening,

503
00:29:07,960 --> 00:29:09,680
Speaker 1: just make this scene. You don't have to make the

504
00:29:09,680 --> 00:29:12,040
Speaker 1: whole film. Everything just starts to hit the fan as

505
00:29:12,080 --> 00:29:15,920
Speaker 1: it were, right, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah yeah. So Pero

506
00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:19,080
Speaker 1: is not going to try to flatten stuff. He's not

507
00:29:19,120 --> 00:29:21,520
Speaker 1: gonna try to break the scepter. He takes that royal

508
00:29:21,680 --> 00:29:25,480
Speaker 1: orb and he just stuffs it down his pants, like

509
00:29:25,680 --> 00:29:28,880
Speaker 1: Jimmy is it's just hilarious? Is that a royal orb

510
00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:32,160
Speaker 1: in your pants? Are you just happy to see me? Right? Uh?

511
00:29:32,200 --> 00:29:37,320
Speaker 1: He was probably pretty happy at the time. But Hallowell,

512
00:29:37,840 --> 00:29:41,240
Speaker 1: remember we hadn't mentioned hollow Well Smith's outside. Hallowell has

513
00:29:41,240 --> 00:29:44,240
Speaker 1: been serving as a lookout and he pops into the

514
00:29:44,320 --> 00:29:49,760
Speaker 1: room and he says, Talbot Edward's son has unexpectedly returned home.

515
00:29:50,000 --> 00:29:53,440
Speaker 1: He's upstairs looking for his father. And so the thieves

516
00:29:53,440 --> 00:29:56,640
Speaker 1: all try to get their stuff together and run away.

517
00:29:56,680 --> 00:30:00,680
Speaker 1: But remember we said Tommy Blood is bad at killing people.

518
00:30:01,360 --> 00:30:05,480
Speaker 1: Right as they're running away, Talbot Edwards seventies seven year

519
00:30:05,520 --> 00:30:08,080
Speaker 1: old Talbot Edwards, he wakes up, He slips off his

520
00:30:08,160 --> 00:30:12,920
Speaker 1: gag and he starts screaming mud treason. The crowd is stouted,

521
00:30:13,960 --> 00:30:16,640
Speaker 1: so it's like the alarm going off right as their

522
00:30:16,640 --> 00:30:19,600
Speaker 1: exiting in the bank. Yeah, yeah, it was absolutely an

523
00:30:19,600 --> 00:30:23,160
Speaker 1: absolute ship show. It's true. Who's in the shouting murder treason,

524
00:30:23,520 --> 00:30:26,480
Speaker 1: Talbot Edwards. Talbert Edwards. So he's been he's been nagging,

525
00:30:26,560 --> 00:30:30,480
Speaker 1: slam came back. He came back, he's been gut stabbed, nagging, slammed,

526
00:30:30,520 --> 00:30:34,520
Speaker 1: and he's still sounding the old man wheezing alarm once

527
00:30:34,560 --> 00:30:37,920
Speaker 1: he regains consciousness. Yeah, yeah, well that's such that's a

528
00:30:37,960 --> 00:30:40,440
Speaker 1: shame for for the crew. But obviously they had a

529
00:30:40,520 --> 00:30:42,360
Speaker 1: coming because they didn't have to stab the old guy

530
00:30:42,360 --> 00:30:44,479
Speaker 1: in the gut, they didn't even have to bash him

531
00:30:44,480 --> 00:30:46,880
Speaker 1: in his knock. That was gratuitous. It really really was,

532
00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:50,000
Speaker 1: especially I mean adding insult to injury because they really

533
00:30:50,560 --> 00:30:53,840
Speaker 1: he seemed like a kindly gentleman and they really just

534
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:57,360
Speaker 1: he wormed his way into his good graces and then

535
00:30:57,720 --> 00:30:59,840
Speaker 1: literally stabbed him, not even in the back of the front,

536
00:31:00,560 --> 00:31:02,720
Speaker 1: and uh yeah, it's just it just makes me sad.

537
00:31:03,120 --> 00:31:05,720
Speaker 1: So what happens next? Then they're they're they're on the lamb,

538
00:31:05,760 --> 00:31:10,000
Speaker 1: they're running and the Bobbies are are in hot pursuit.

539
00:31:10,240 --> 00:31:11,760
Speaker 1: It wouldn't have been bobbies, so they would have been

540
00:31:11,800 --> 00:31:13,920
Speaker 1: like palace guards or something. Some of them might have

541
00:31:13,920 --> 00:31:17,800
Speaker 1: been named Bob or Robert. Maybe there were several. Maybe

542
00:31:17,840 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: there were bobbies. So Talbot Edward's son, guy named why Edwards,

543
00:31:23,120 --> 00:31:26,640
Speaker 1: that's the that's the soldier, and a military engineer from

544
00:31:26,640 --> 00:31:31,120
Speaker 1: Sweden named Martin Beckman are running after Blood. Blood, Hallowell

545
00:31:31,360 --> 00:31:35,800
Speaker 1: pro Smith and Blood's son Thomas are making a dash

546
00:31:35,880 --> 00:31:39,000
Speaker 1: to get to the tower gates. They dropped the scepter

547
00:31:39,120 --> 00:31:42,520
Speaker 1: as they're running. Things are going bad, and Blood still

548
00:31:42,600 --> 00:31:44,640
Speaker 1: dressed as a parson. By the way, I cannot over

549
00:31:44,680 --> 00:31:48,360
Speaker 1: emphasize this. He turns around, he draws his pistol and

550
00:31:48,400 --> 00:31:51,400
Speaker 1: he fires at the people chasing them. He wounds one

551
00:31:51,480 --> 00:31:55,240
Speaker 1: of the guards and this distracts people long enough for

552
00:31:55,320 --> 00:31:59,560
Speaker 1: him to make it to his horse until he gets snatched.

553
00:31:59,800 --> 00:32:03,360
Speaker 1: He gets tackled before he can climb into the saddle,

554
00:32:03,480 --> 00:32:07,200
Speaker 1: so that engineer Beckman that we mentioned, uh, just totally

555
00:32:07,280 --> 00:32:10,280
Speaker 1: knocks him to the ground. And then in a matter

556
00:32:10,320 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: of minutes, most of the other outlaws were rounded up

557
00:32:13,360 --> 00:32:16,360
Speaker 1: and the crown jewels, which had been you know, distorted

558
00:32:16,480 --> 00:32:21,160
Speaker 1: and deformed are recovered, and Colonel Blood finds himself dragged

559
00:32:21,160 --> 00:32:29,560
Speaker 1: back inside the Tower of London in chains. By the way,

560
00:32:29,560 --> 00:32:32,840
Speaker 1: Talbot Edwards was promised a reward, the crowd said that

561
00:32:32,880 --> 00:32:35,480
Speaker 1: we're going to give him two hundred pounds. Yeah, I

562
00:32:35,520 --> 00:32:38,040
Speaker 1: mean that that was a gut stab. That's that's also

563
00:32:38,080 --> 00:32:40,280
Speaker 1: a very Tarantino esque thing. It reminds me of Reservoir

564
00:32:40,320 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: Don I think gets gets shot in the gut and

565
00:32:43,400 --> 00:32:45,120
Speaker 1: spends a whole movie bleeding out in the back of

566
00:32:45,120 --> 00:32:47,280
Speaker 1: a car. That's kind of what's going on here. But

567
00:32:47,440 --> 00:32:50,160
Speaker 1: you know, at least he sounded the alarm and Colonel

568
00:32:50,160 --> 00:32:52,840
Speaker 1: Blood did get his come up. It's more or less.

569
00:32:52,880 --> 00:32:55,000
Speaker 1: But here's the thing. Blood knew that the king had

570
00:32:55,040 --> 00:33:02,440
Speaker 1: a reputation for identifying with, you know, very bold acts

571
00:33:02,520 --> 00:33:05,880
Speaker 1: of defiance in a weird way, like you wouldn't think

572
00:33:05,920 --> 00:33:08,560
Speaker 1: that about a king. But he was a fan of

573
00:33:08,720 --> 00:33:12,880
Speaker 1: scoundrels and figured that he could kind of weasel his

574
00:33:12,960 --> 00:33:16,959
Speaker 1: way out of of the noose um as as he

575
00:33:17,240 --> 00:33:20,880
Speaker 1: you know, been known to do in the past. Yeah,

576
00:33:20,920 --> 00:33:24,160
Speaker 1: and there's this great line to Tarantino asked his jailers,

577
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:26,520
Speaker 1: are you know, roughing him up? They're asking the questions,

578
00:33:26,520 --> 00:33:29,760
Speaker 1: where you're doing with the jewels? We got you this time, Blood,

579
00:33:30,320 --> 00:33:32,240
Speaker 1: What made you do this? What was your plan? What

580
00:33:32,240 --> 00:33:36,280
Speaker 1: are you gonna do? But Blood refuses to answer any questions. Instead,

581
00:33:36,320 --> 00:33:40,280
Speaker 1: he says, he says that he refuses to speak with

582
00:33:40,320 --> 00:33:44,720
Speaker 1: anyone but the King himself. Uh. And weirdly enough, uh,

583
00:33:44,760 --> 00:33:48,800
Speaker 1: the King gives him that audience because when he's saying that,

584
00:33:49,160 --> 00:33:52,480
Speaker 1: you know, as we just said, he knows that this

585
00:33:52,640 --> 00:33:56,840
Speaker 1: could work, that the King would have this interest, and

586
00:33:57,400 --> 00:34:00,840
Speaker 1: he lays it on thick right. He becomes a real

587
00:34:00,920 --> 00:34:04,000
Speaker 1: con artist, you know, and he says, I'm in awe

588
00:34:04,000 --> 00:34:07,520
Speaker 1: of the majesty of the King and Keith Charles kind

589
00:34:07,560 --> 00:34:10,000
Speaker 1: it dicks. It sort of appeals to his uh you know,

590
00:34:10,120 --> 00:34:12,839
Speaker 1: inflated ego because he's the one who spent all his cash,

591
00:34:13,040 --> 00:34:16,120
Speaker 1: the king on on these replacement crown jewels and he

592
00:34:16,200 --> 00:34:18,520
Speaker 1: was basically saying, oh, I had to have them because

593
00:34:18,560 --> 00:34:21,160
Speaker 1: they were just so you know, it was honestly I

594
00:34:21,200 --> 00:34:25,680
Speaker 1: did it like out of respect, right, really flipping the script. Man,

595
00:34:25,760 --> 00:34:28,719
Speaker 1: what an interesting con you know, But it's so weird

596
00:34:28,760 --> 00:34:32,040
Speaker 1: because there's a there's a penis joke in here. Why

597
00:34:32,120 --> 00:34:35,399
Speaker 1: did you catch that. So one of the things he says.

598
00:34:35,520 --> 00:34:37,640
Speaker 1: He's talking to the king and he says, you know,

599
00:34:37,840 --> 00:34:41,759
Speaker 1: I wants planned to shoot you with a musket. I

600
00:34:41,840 --> 00:34:44,799
Speaker 1: spied you bathing in the river, but I lost my

601
00:34:44,880 --> 00:34:48,879
Speaker 1: nerve if I was in all of your majesty, right,

602
00:34:49,239 --> 00:34:52,000
Speaker 1: what we have to be careful because it's family show.

603
00:34:52,880 --> 00:34:55,640
Speaker 1: But that's what you say. And so Charles is like, oh,

604
00:34:55,800 --> 00:35:00,600
Speaker 1: you owed so and so ah, and then Blood says

605
00:35:00,840 --> 00:35:04,360
Speaker 1: and also, you know, those crown jewels probably weren't worth

606
00:35:04,680 --> 00:35:08,440
Speaker 1: a hundred thousand pounds. I would say much less. And

607
00:35:08,520 --> 00:35:11,879
Speaker 1: this blows my mind because you would think when when

608
00:35:12,000 --> 00:35:15,920
Speaker 1: Blood devalued these crown jewels by saying I don't think

609
00:35:15,920 --> 00:35:18,319
Speaker 1: they're worth a hundred pound hundred thousand pounds were like

610
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:21,319
Speaker 1: six thousand pounds, you would think that would have done

611
00:35:21,360 --> 00:35:23,400
Speaker 1: the opposite. Like, you know, he's trying to appeal to

612
00:35:23,480 --> 00:35:26,640
Speaker 1: the King's ego and his inflated sense of of self,

613
00:35:26,680 --> 00:35:29,160
Speaker 1: you know, worth and all of that stuff. And he's

614
00:35:29,200 --> 00:35:31,799
Speaker 1: the one who uh sanctioned these crown jewels to be

615
00:35:31,840 --> 00:35:35,480
Speaker 1: purchased for so much money. Um. But in fact, the

616
00:35:35,600 --> 00:35:40,920
Speaker 1: king was amused by how audacious this rogue was in claiming,

617
00:35:41,320 --> 00:35:45,080
Speaker 1: you know that the jewels are actually worth far far less,

618
00:35:45,120 --> 00:35:48,319
Speaker 1: absolutely bonkers and counterintuitive, and it makes no sense. There's

619
00:35:48,400 --> 00:35:52,879
Speaker 1: another there's another um I would say substrate of narrative here.

620
00:35:53,000 --> 00:35:56,600
Speaker 1: So Charles the Second shocks everyone. He gives Tommy Blood

621
00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:59,440
Speaker 1: a full pardon. He gives him land in Ireland worth

622
00:35:59,480 --> 00:36:04,040
Speaker 1: five pounds a year, and people are still debating why

623
00:36:04,120 --> 00:36:08,080
Speaker 1: he would do this. A lot of the early accounts said, well,

624
00:36:08,120 --> 00:36:10,000
Speaker 1: you know, that's how the king is. He just he

625
00:36:10,320 --> 00:36:13,200
Speaker 1: thought Blood was a bloody good time and he liked

626
00:36:13,239 --> 00:36:15,799
Speaker 1: his you know, he liked his stories. It was like

627
00:36:16,440 --> 00:36:19,040
Speaker 1: he was into that version of Ted Talks and he said,

628
00:36:19,080 --> 00:36:24,239
Speaker 1: good show, old boy. But we now think that because

629
00:36:24,760 --> 00:36:27,840
Speaker 1: Thomas Blood, who was a self appointed colonel by the way,

630
00:36:28,120 --> 00:36:30,640
Speaker 1: he just sort of started calling himself that people think

631
00:36:30,719 --> 00:36:34,080
Speaker 1: that because of Blood's history and espionage, he may have

632
00:36:34,160 --> 00:36:38,480
Speaker 1: been working as uh, one of the chief operatives of

633
00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,120
Speaker 1: Charles the Second's court. Remember we said that the Duke

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Speaker 1: of Buckingham may have hired him to kidnap or attempt

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Speaker 1: to murder some folks. Charles the Second may have been

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Speaker 1: aware of this, and the tower heist might have been

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Speaker 1: an inside job. Wait, a minute, right, heist music casey,

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Speaker 1: and so the Duke pulled some strings, possibly on Blood's behalf.

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Speaker 1: And some scholars will even argue that Charles the second

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Speaker 1: because he was cash poor because it was short on funds,

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Speaker 1: that he was in on the scam and planned to

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Speaker 1: take a cut of the loot. My question is, would

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Speaker 1: there have been something akin to an insurance policy on

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Speaker 1: something so valuable in those days or was that his

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Speaker 1: insurance in that way more and more of a modern concept,

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Speaker 1: you know, I I am not aware of that. We

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Speaker 1: could do a history of insurance that would be either

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Speaker 1: really fascinating or really boring. It would get fascinating because

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Speaker 1: of the early days of insurance and then the wildest

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Speaker 1: things were ever insured. But at this point, um just guessing,

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Speaker 1: I would say there wasn't. Yeah, I would think so too,

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Speaker 1: but it's a it's just something that popped into my head.

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Speaker 1: But so instead of like getting a cut of the

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Speaker 1: insurance money, he was literally going to get a cut

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Speaker 1: of like the fenced loot. It's an in theory here

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Speaker 1: in theory. So this is like, why was he so

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Speaker 1: cash poor because he was embroiled in different wars and

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Speaker 1: restoring the throne was a was a dangerous endeavor that

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Speaker 1: it wasn't a cheap one. That makes sense. And by

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Speaker 1: the way, and insurance didn't really start in the United

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Speaker 1: States until seventeen thirty five. I guess who was involved

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Speaker 1: in it, Benjamin Franklin, right, go, Ben's so uh, just

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Speaker 1: for comparison, for anyone who lives in the US, this

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Speaker 1: heist is like breaking into the Pentagon to steal something,

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Speaker 1: or you know what, breaking into Fort Knox if there's

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Speaker 1: any golden Fort Knox and then getting caught and then

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Speaker 1: going to meet the president, and the president is the

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Speaker 1: guy who put the job together and and sort of

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Speaker 1: you know does that Monty Burns steeple with their hands

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Speaker 1: and says, you know what, let's just tell everybody that

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Speaker 1: I think you're hilarious. Usually go to prison, Yeah, usually

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Speaker 1: go to prison. But we're gonna give you. We're gonna

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Speaker 1: give you some land out in the Caribbean or you

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Speaker 1: out and um someplace on the coast, someplace nice, and

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Speaker 1: then we'll give you five hundred bucks a year. How

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Speaker 1: does that sound? Is that real? Ben? What's that the

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Speaker 1: thing that you just laid out? That's just I'm just

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Speaker 1: comparing the situation's nothing to see here, right, I mean, yeah,

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Speaker 1: it really I don't know it's it's it's when it

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Speaker 1: comes to conspiracies, as we know from the other two

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Speaker 1: that we do stuff that I want you to know,

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Speaker 1: they're often very difficult to prove, and the term conspiracy

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Speaker 1: theory is often thrown about as sort of what is

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Speaker 1: it called ben like a self terminating cliche exactly. So

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Speaker 1: the idea when you refer to something in these terms,

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Speaker 1: it belittles it to the point of rendering it kind

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Speaker 1: of inert that's the hope, um. But very often conspiracies

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Speaker 1: are very real, and this one sure seems to hold

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Speaker 1: some some sand. If this is what happened, it makes

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Speaker 1: absolutely no sense that the king would have gone so

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Speaker 1: light on the guy who literally killed the old man

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Speaker 1: in charge of guarding the crown jewels, tried to steal them,

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Speaker 1: stuffed them down their pants, you know, absolutely defiled every

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Speaker 1: aspect of these precious items, and then just claimed that

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Speaker 1: he was charming, so he gave him all this stuff

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Speaker 1: and let him go completely. And also, it's the king,

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Speaker 1: so people are gonna be hard pressed to go you know,

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Speaker 1: your majesty, this kind of stinks you know there's there's

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Speaker 1: something rotten in your reasoning. No one's gonna say that.

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Speaker 1: So it seems that Charles the second found more value

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Speaker 1: in Thomas Blood as a living political operative than he

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Speaker 1: did as a prisoner or an executed criminal. So he

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Speaker 1: probably let him go because he was useful as a

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Speaker 1: spy and enforcer and informant. However, he still was taking

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Speaker 1: in sidework freelance espionage, and in sixteen seventy nine things

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Speaker 1: soured with his pal, the Duke of Buckingham, who was

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Speaker 1: probably the guy who kept him out of jail, if

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Speaker 1: not setting him up for these heists in the first

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Speaker 1: as Blood apparently says something bad about the Duke's character,

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Speaker 1: and so the Duke says, give me ten thousand pounds

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Speaker 1: to make that right, because you sa besmirched my good name.

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Speaker 1: And then Blood becomes ill in sixteen eighty, so the

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Speaker 1: Duke never gets his his ten large and Blood dies

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Speaker 1: on August sixteen eighty at the ripe old age of

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Speaker 1: sixty two. There is one footnote for this, which is

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Speaker 1: so crazy. He died deeply in debt. He did not

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Speaker 1: die a wealthy man. He hadn't been in the best

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Speaker 1: of health for a while. But the problem would being

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Speaker 1: a double agent for your entire career is that eventually

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Speaker 1: people don't trust you know. How little did they trust

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Speaker 1: this guy upon his death? Yeah, he was trusted about

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Speaker 1: as little as a human person can possibly be trusted

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Speaker 1: in that they the authorities actually dug up his body

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Speaker 1: to make sure that he was actually dead, that he

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Speaker 1: had not faked his own death to avoid going to

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Speaker 1: Debtort's prison. You know. Um, he was that much of

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Speaker 1: a shady character. Um. So he was in fact reburied

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Speaker 1: and his headstone supposedly read here lies the man who

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Speaker 1: boldly hath run through more villainies than England ever knew.

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Speaker 1: And there is a nineteen sixty seven comedy SATs are

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Speaker 1: called The Jokers, that involves stealing the crown jewels. Um.

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Speaker 1: I think there was an episode of Sherlock That's what

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Speaker 1: it was, Moriarty where where he steals the crown Benedict

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Speaker 1: Cumberg cumber Briar past. Yes, that one. And the guy

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Speaker 1: that plays Moriarty I I love very much. Didn't I

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Speaker 1: didn't care for his Moriarty. You didn't like him. I

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Speaker 1: just like that actor a lot. Yeah, it's a great,

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Speaker 1: great actor he's in He's in flea Bag. He plays

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Speaker 1: a priest in Fleabag, and he's also in that episode

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Speaker 1: of Black Mirror. Um. I enjoyed his Moriarty though, but

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Speaker 1: that's fun teacher and Moriarty. Growing up, for some reason,

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Speaker 1: I was taken with U with the John Goodman vehicle

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Speaker 1: Duke of Earle. Do you guys remember that one? It's uh,

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Speaker 1: it's about John Goodman plays a guy who likes bowling

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Speaker 1: or something, and then there's this huge mishap in the

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Speaker 1: English royal family and he becomes the king. Uh and

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Speaker 1: it's it's, you know, a fish out of water comedy.

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Speaker 1: But that's that's what I always associate with royalty in

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Speaker 1: England because I was just a sucker for that song.

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Speaker 1: And John Goodman and John Goodman, if you're listening, I

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Speaker 1: think I think you are a fantastic actor as well.

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Speaker 1: I'd love to see you play Moriarty. I'd love to

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Speaker 1: see someone play Thomas Blood like Casey Nol. Does this

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Speaker 1: not sound like a narrative that would be ripe for

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Speaker 1: an action film? Yeah, I think it'd be a lot

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Speaker 1: of fun. I'll tell you whose crown jewels were actually stolen? Uh?

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Speaker 1: And the perpetrators escaped on a speedboat the crown Jewels

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Speaker 1: of Sweden belonging to King Carl the ninth and Queen Christina.

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Speaker 1: They also had a royal orb and we're stolen last

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Speaker 1: year um in a pretty incredible heist um almost like

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Speaker 1: the type you'd see in a James Bond movie again

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Speaker 1: with complete with the high speed speedboat chase. And I

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Speaker 1: do believe that they have been recovered, but the British

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Speaker 1: Crown Jewels have thus far not been attempted to be

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Speaker 1: lifted since this daring escapade, which I want to see

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Speaker 1: as a high like think about as a producer, right

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Speaker 1: the just we take the heist film formula that we're

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Speaker 1: talking about in the beginning, we make it a period piece.

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Speaker 1: Maybe we embellish a little bit, give Hallowell and Pero

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Speaker 1: and Smith their own kind of specialties or something completely

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Speaker 1: but like a priest, come on, man with a mallet

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Speaker 1: in the robes. I don't know if it's the coffee

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Speaker 1: or what, but I think this is fantastic. As a

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Speaker 1: matter of fact, I gotta go work on this screenplay

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Speaker 1: right now, if it hasn't already happened. Thank you so

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Speaker 1: much for tuning in everyone. We hope that you enjoyed

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Speaker 1: this installment of of ridiculous history on historical heist. Thanks

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00:44:57,719 --> 00:45:00,960
Speaker 1: as always to our super producer Casey Pegram, Thanks to

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Speaker 1: Gabe Lousier. Thanks to Alex Williams who composed this wonderful,

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Speaker 1: wonderful music you hear at the beginning and end of

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Speaker 1: the show. Thanks to Chris Frasciota's here in Spirit Jonathan

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Speaker 1: stick Lit. Here is some sort of lingering ghoulish miasthma.

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Speaker 1: And uh, have we thanked super richer Casey program. I

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Speaker 1: think we have, but you know, let's think of again

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Speaker 1: because he's the best. And hey, I'm just seeing an

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Speaker 1: ad come up for a new Grand Theft Auto DLC

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Speaker 1: called Grand Theft Auto Online the Diamond Casino Heist. We

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Speaker 1: are not being paid, but it looks pretty cool if

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Speaker 1: you're into heisty stuff. Yeah, and also thanks to Gene Chandler,

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Speaker 1: Duke of earl Oh. I got some weird news unrelated

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Speaker 1: to anything you guys. Hit me. I beat Skyrim, like

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Speaker 1: not just the main quest, what I've done everything, Dude,

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Speaker 1: I I know you have a percent completion. Yeah, I

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Speaker 1: got like the stones you know you have to collect

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Speaker 1: this twenty four stones. I got, like the weird mask,

796
00:45:51,280 --> 00:45:52,680
Speaker 1: I get the whole thing. That's pretty cool. And I

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Speaker 1: don't know if I told you. I quit playing the

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00:45:54,800 --> 00:45:58,360
Speaker 1: game because my save was too old, and uh the

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Speaker 1: I I had advanced to point where I was I

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Speaker 1: had no business being because I had not leveled up enough.

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Speaker 1: Oh no, so I just gave it up. But it

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Speaker 1: was a fun game. Maybe now enough time it's passed

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Speaker 1: that I can just start fresh, because that is a

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Speaker 1: really fun game. It is, it is, and I guess

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Speaker 1: you know now you say it, it's such a buggy

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Speaker 1: game that I probably don't have a hundred percent completion

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Speaker 1: because you know, Bethesda's is the torious for that. But

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Speaker 1: you're you're more of a fallout guy, right I am? Indeed,

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Speaker 1: So let us know the story of Thomas Blood and

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Speaker 1: the Crown Jewels better as a video game, better as

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Speaker 1: a Ocean's eleven esque heist film. We'd like to hear

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Speaker 1: find us on Twitter, you can find us on Instagram.

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Speaker 1: We've got our community page, Ridiculous Historians. Of course, you

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Speaker 1: can also find us as individuals. I am at ben

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Speaker 1: Bolan on Instagram. Stay tuned because I will be on

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Speaker 1: some adventures soon. To check that out. You can find

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Speaker 1: me exclusively on Instagram as at how now, Noel Brown,

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