WEBVTT - #275 - Peezy 0:00:00.080 --> 0:00:04.040 Bule Cap Podcast Special guests in here. My guy's on fire. 0:00:04.360 --> 0:00:07.520 He's on fire right now. One of my favorites, PZ 0:00:07.720 --> 0:00:10.280 is here. Detroit's in the building. Thank you, brother, I 0:00:10.320 --> 0:00:14.400 appreciate you. It's dope to see uh this because I've 0:00:14.400 --> 0:00:16.800 been following you for a long time. Obviously, I've been 0:00:16.800 --> 0:00:19.120 tapped in since before you got locked up, and uh, 0:00:19.920 --> 0:00:23.640 it's super dope to see you catch this hit record. Man, 0:00:24.400 --> 0:00:25.960 you know what I'm saying. And now it feels like 0:00:26.000 --> 0:00:28.360 everybody else is coming around, you know what I'm saying. 0:00:29.080 --> 0:00:31.680 How do you feel like? Because it's one thing to 0:00:31.720 --> 0:00:33.239 have the catalog and to be able to go to 0:00:33.280 --> 0:00:36.239 certain markets and pick up bags and to get those 0:00:36.280 --> 0:00:37.839 streaming checks, But how does it feel to have like 0:00:37.880 --> 0:00:43.080 a record, like a hit? It feel good because pause, 0:00:43.880 --> 0:00:48.280 it feel good because I've been rapping so long exactly. 0:00:48.400 --> 0:00:52.360 And it's like I watched everybody like and there's no 0:00:52.440 --> 0:00:56.120 disrespect everybody in the d that like blew up. I 0:00:56.240 --> 0:00:59.120 kind of had like personal relationship with them, like, you 0:00:59.160 --> 0:01:02.200 know what I'm saying, So everybody go, I watched everybody 0:01:02.360 --> 0:01:04.280 music take off from the root, you know what I'm saying, 0:01:04.319 --> 0:01:06.800 And I was right there with all of them and 0:01:06.840 --> 0:01:09.880 they having me kind of feeling like maybe my music 0:01:09.959 --> 0:01:12.320 wasn't good enough, you know what I'm saying. So you 0:01:12.440 --> 0:01:15.800 feel good to finally be getting the recognition in that 0:01:16.360 --> 0:01:18.679 because I've been working hard for a lot of years. 0:01:18.720 --> 0:01:21.679 For sure. Man, you've been putting in work, yeah, putting 0:01:21.760 --> 0:01:26.160 putting so much catalog and obviously you know the label 0:01:26.440 --> 0:01:30.039 for Free Rio. Uh. You know, I feel like what 0:01:30.120 --> 0:01:34.880 you've been doing and building, it's just dope to see 0:01:35.000 --> 0:01:37.360 everybody else coming to the table now the party, I 0:01:37.360 --> 0:01:39.480 guess you know what I mean. And I also feel 0:01:39.560 --> 0:01:42.040 like to the timing just for Detroit's crazy right now 0:01:42.080 --> 0:01:45.280 because you catching ahead at the same time that it 0:01:45.360 --> 0:01:48.960 feels like every label signing somebody from Detroit. Oh yeah, Detroit. 0:01:49.800 --> 0:01:52.400 You got Baby Face Ray, you got Ice Word Vesel, 0:01:52.520 --> 0:01:58.320 you got Baby Baby Money, Tabe, Baby Trying, Baby Trying. 0:02:00.080 --> 0:02:02.000 It's a list, It's a lot, a lot of them. 0:02:02.120 --> 0:02:07.600 It's a lot, man, everybody, everybody doing good for you. 0:02:07.600 --> 0:02:09.200 You've been a part of the scene for so long. 0:02:10.200 --> 0:02:14.760 I know a lot of you know, your personal issues aside, 0:02:14.760 --> 0:02:16.919 but I feel like a lot of the issues in 0:02:17.000 --> 0:02:19.160 Detroit for the most part, have been put to rest, 0:02:19.200 --> 0:02:22.120 and it feels as unified as I've seen it in 0:02:22.160 --> 0:02:24.440 a while in terms of the top guys kind of 0:02:24.440 --> 0:02:28.920 moving together. In fact, why do you think that is 0:02:28.960 --> 0:02:31.560 everyone's kind of growing up a little or it just 0:02:31.560 --> 0:02:35.640 feels like everyone's kind of moving in the right direction. Well, 0:02:35.760 --> 0:02:40.440 it's two things. Nobody got hurt, you know what I'm saying, 0:02:40.480 --> 0:02:42.480 because that's hard to come back from. Yeah, it wasn't 0:02:42.520 --> 0:02:45.480 no blood behind our situation. And then another thing, we 0:02:45.520 --> 0:02:47.760 are older, you know what I'm saying, and we do 0:02:47.919 --> 0:02:50.160 old at to the city because it's like everybody wanted 0:02:50.200 --> 0:02:52.200 to see that, you like, we want to see these 0:02:52.240 --> 0:02:55.560 guys come together so bad, and it was just like 0:02:55.639 --> 0:02:58.639 time for it. So as we got older and everybody 0:02:58.639 --> 0:03:00.799 got kids, and we lost got as on our side, 0:03:00.840 --> 0:03:03.919 they lost as on they side. Not from like each other, 0:03:04.000 --> 0:03:07.160 but just losing happens. And it's like, man, we need 0:03:07.160 --> 0:03:09.080 to put that bullshit to the side and just do 0:03:09.160 --> 0:03:10.760 this for the city and make it look good. And 0:03:10.800 --> 0:03:13.040 that's what we did, and now we actually get friends, 0:03:13.080 --> 0:03:15.880 all of us. Now I see it. Man, it's dope 0:03:15.880 --> 0:03:18.600 to see and it's dope to see, like, you know, 0:03:19.440 --> 0:03:21.560 a guy like yourself have to go sit down for 0:03:21.600 --> 0:03:23.680 a little bit and then come out and thrive at 0:03:23.680 --> 0:03:25.919 a level higher than you've ever thrived in your career. 0:03:26.400 --> 0:03:28.760 And on that same token, a guy like Icewear Vezzo 0:03:29.320 --> 0:03:33.200 who had to do the same thing. And you guys, 0:03:33.280 --> 0:03:36.760 it's just whenever I talk to artists who aren't from 0:03:36.960 --> 0:03:39.760 Detroit and I just we just talk about hip hop's landscape. 0:03:39.800 --> 0:03:43.600 I always tell everybody, like, I think, right now, Memphis 0:03:43.680 --> 0:03:46.320 got that got the ship, Mphis Hot. But I do 0:03:46.360 --> 0:03:50.400 think Detroit is on their Assphis Memphis Hot. But Detroit 0:03:50.440 --> 0:03:52.680 you can't we in there, you know, No, It's like 0:03:52.760 --> 0:03:56.560 for real, and and even just like the influence and 0:03:56.800 --> 0:03:59.760 like whether it's the production or the flows, I just 0:03:59.760 --> 0:04:05.040 feel like, but listen though, right, and that is true. 0:04:05.640 --> 0:04:09.920 But the sound that everybody here is a Flint sound. 0:04:09.920 --> 0:04:13.520 It's not even Detroit. You did what I'm saying, you 0:04:13.600 --> 0:04:17.960 might hear more of a Rio and Mike or Mike sound. Yeah, 0:04:17.960 --> 0:04:19.480 shout out to Flint. That was one of the best 0:04:19.520 --> 0:04:22.240 funniest interviews I've ever done to Mike, shout out three. 0:04:23.000 --> 0:04:26.000 But the sound that like it's more fast, is more funny, 0:04:26.120 --> 0:04:29.200 is more That's really not a Detroit sound shout out 0:04:29.240 --> 0:04:32.440 to be the pac Man facts. That's my dude. Yeah, 0:04:32.560 --> 0:04:35.160 that's my dude. But the sound that you're all here, 0:04:35.320 --> 0:04:38.279 like the funny the funny rap is like fast is 0:04:38.920 --> 0:04:42.720 no like no choruses. It's really not a Detroit sound. 0:04:42.760 --> 0:04:45.960 It's more of a flint soign like Rio and Mike 0:04:46.040 --> 0:04:47.640 and them. It's kind of like the four or fives 0:04:47.680 --> 0:04:49.080 of that. You know what I say. I was real 0:04:49.200 --> 0:04:52.920 doing real excellent Rio, super straight. Rio be home soon. Yeah, dude, 0:04:52.960 --> 0:04:54.760 do we know when he's gonna be out? And I can't. 0:04:55.000 --> 0:04:58.400 I can't announce the date, but he'll be home soon. Yeah. 0:04:58.600 --> 0:05:00.440 That's a hell of a what you You guys are 0:05:00.480 --> 0:05:04.839 one two punch man. Oh man, it's crazy. Yeah, it's different. 0:05:04.880 --> 0:05:08.160 Like me and Bro together is millions on top of millions. 0:05:08.160 --> 0:05:12.560 Like it's got to be like you get out a 0:05:12.720 --> 0:05:14.840 small period of time where you're out and he's out, 0:05:15.120 --> 0:05:16.839 and then he's got to go in and then you 0:05:16.920 --> 0:05:18.599 that you got to hit. So it's like he probably 0:05:18.600 --> 0:05:20.880 seeing that ship from the cell like, bro, Bro, you 0:05:20.960 --> 0:05:24.320 got one for real, Like he just sitting back and 0:05:24.480 --> 0:05:27.880 just you know, I don't really know how to explain 0:05:27.920 --> 0:05:32.480 it because we're so used to, like, all right, how 0:05:32.480 --> 0:05:34.000 can I say it? Because I don't want to say 0:05:34.040 --> 0:05:38.960 this in a way that I've been having records like 0:05:39.120 --> 0:05:42.359 going in the streets, so like, yeah, you got the 0:05:42.400 --> 0:05:45.000 two millions up. It feel good to me, But I 0:05:45.040 --> 0:05:48.080 didn't allow myself to get over excited because I had 0:05:48.120 --> 0:05:50.360 already kind of like been used to knowing how to 0:05:50.400 --> 0:05:52.479 move with these type records. You feel what I'm saying, 0:05:52.880 --> 0:05:54.680 So it kind of kept me like on the humble, 0:05:54.800 --> 0:05:58.120 like so far as we I don't really know how 0:05:58.160 --> 0:06:00.400 to explain it, like how he feel about it. For me, 0:06:00.880 --> 0:06:03.000 I'm still kind of like I don't allow myself to 0:06:03.040 --> 0:06:05.359 get too excited about it, so we allow ourselves to 0:06:05.360 --> 0:06:09.279 stay home and keep working the beat. I talked to 0:06:09.320 --> 0:06:11.800 a lot of hip hop guys. I forget which rapper 0:06:11.920 --> 0:06:13.960 I just interviewed, and they said that it was like 0:06:14.000 --> 0:06:16.600 someone big who just said they two MILLIONAIP was your 0:06:16.640 --> 0:06:18.480 their favorite record. I forget who the fuck it was, 0:06:18.880 --> 0:06:22.600 but that beat is infectious. That sample is crazy. It's 0:06:22.640 --> 0:06:25.360 crazy how I even got that beat because somebody else 0:06:25.400 --> 0:06:27.640 was rapping on it when they sent it to me. 0:06:27.720 --> 0:06:29.080 I guess they wanted me to hear it and put 0:06:29.120 --> 0:06:30.760 a verse on it and whatnot. And I was like, oh, 0:06:30.800 --> 0:06:33.359 let me get that. Wait, so it got sent to 0:06:33.440 --> 0:06:36.520 you to be a feature facts or I think somebody 0:06:36.560 --> 0:06:39.520 may have wanted me to hear it or put a 0:06:39.600 --> 0:06:41.640 verse on it because they sent it to me, they 0:06:41.640 --> 0:06:43.160 had a verse on it already, and shit, you know 0:06:43.160 --> 0:06:46.239 what I'm saying. So when I got it in my email, 0:06:46.680 --> 0:06:48.520 I'm like, what the fuck? You know what I'm saying. 0:06:48.520 --> 0:06:51.040 I need that. I need that. What happened to the 0:06:51.040 --> 0:06:53.960 guy whose verse was on it? I don't know, Damn 0:06:54.000 --> 0:06:58.400 he probably heard that shit Like fuck yeah, he probably did. Hey, 0:06:58.440 --> 0:07:00.479 I bet you he's getting so much. But it ain't 0:07:00.520 --> 0:07:02.960 even that though, But you want to know why, because 0:07:04.279 --> 0:07:07.160 anybody else could have made nobody could have made the song. 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:10.760 I made facts and I couldn't nobody song. So the 0:07:10.840 --> 0:07:13.280 beat And it's the thing because I keep telling the 0:07:13.320 --> 0:07:15.120 engineer who made the beat, because we had kind of 0:07:15.160 --> 0:07:18.120 like class you know what I'm saying, because he had 0:07:18.160 --> 0:07:20.720 agreed to a number and I ain't gonna say the number. 0:07:21.720 --> 0:07:24.920 And when it when the song blew up, he ain't 0:07:24.960 --> 0:07:26.880 want to sign off on the on the on what 0:07:26.960 --> 0:07:30.520 he agreed on. He didn't have no team, no lawyers 0:07:30.560 --> 0:07:32.440 or none of that ship before the song came out. 0:07:32.480 --> 0:07:35.080 So when the song like I bid, here come a 0:07:35.120 --> 0:07:37.280 new manager and a lawyer and all this ship. You 0:07:37.320 --> 0:07:40.120 know what I'm saying, with the numbers and ship. But 0:07:40.120 --> 0:07:42.440 we ended up working it out. But I'm telling him, like, bro, 0:07:43.560 --> 0:07:46.280 you made the beat, but it was we paid this. 0:07:46.360 --> 0:07:48.600 It was the sample on the beat, and you had 0:07:48.600 --> 0:07:51.440 to clear the sample. Clear sample had the paper, so 0:07:51.520 --> 0:07:54.160 you had to add, okay, some little bills and whistles 0:07:54.240 --> 0:07:57.160 or whatever. We can't take that away from you. But 0:07:57.840 --> 0:07:59.560 you could have gave that beat to anybody else and 0:07:59.600 --> 0:08:01.280 they wouldn't to have been the song that I made. 0:08:01.440 --> 0:08:04.080 You feel what I'm saying, So you can't sit up 0:08:04.080 --> 0:08:07.080 here at like you did something that you know what 0:08:07.160 --> 0:08:09.760 I'm trying to say. So if somebody, let's say, like 0:08:09.840 --> 0:08:13.320 that particular guy is he kind of would you work 0:08:13.360 --> 0:08:17.080 with him again? No, that's fair, No, I won't work 0:08:17.120 --> 0:08:19.200 with him again. I won't. I don't like work with 0:08:19.360 --> 0:08:23.040 I really, I want to work with like in house producers, man, 0:08:23.080 --> 0:08:26.720 because it's tricky. It's different now. They made it so 0:08:26.800 --> 0:08:29.400 difficult to put out music right now, it's like crazy 0:08:30.200 --> 0:08:32.319 to where you don't even want to deal with producers 0:08:32.320 --> 0:08:34.840 if you don't personally know you know what I'm saying, yeah, 0:08:34.840 --> 0:08:38.360 because then yeah, now I feel you because we might 0:08:38.440 --> 0:08:40.240 we might have a discussion in the studio and it's 0:08:40.280 --> 0:08:43.840 one thing, and then that lawyer drops that email over. 0:08:44.800 --> 0:08:47.000 But I ain't mad at I'm not mad at how 0:08:47.880 --> 0:08:50.920 set up because the producers do need that money and 0:08:50.960 --> 0:08:53.240 they credit, but how they got to set up Now 0:08:54.520 --> 0:08:59.840 they allowing like lower level and lower level of producers 0:09:00.640 --> 0:09:05.720 to charge like crazy numbers based based on who they 0:09:05.800 --> 0:09:08.280 think the artist is. I think also too, like you 0:09:08.280 --> 0:09:12.360 gotta look at like anybody, not even a producer's artists, anybody. 0:09:12.440 --> 0:09:14.680 You gotta like people should look at things the long 0:09:14.760 --> 0:09:17.520 play way because like, imagine if he would have just 0:09:17.600 --> 0:09:20.240 been squared up with you and and honored his words, 0:09:20.360 --> 0:09:21.800 like we would have did a whole album or something. 0:09:21.840 --> 0:09:23.680 You know what I'm saying, Ship, we made a hit together, 0:09:23.760 --> 0:09:27.839 Let's make some more or or or they're doing this too, 0:09:27.960 --> 0:09:30.800 like they give you to beat this is free or 0:09:30.920 --> 0:09:32.520 or not. But when it's time to put the record out, 0:09:32.520 --> 0:09:36.839 they're going to arts six seventh, Like bros. You know 0:09:36.880 --> 0:09:38.679 what I'm saying, yeah, like you've never made that much 0:09:38.679 --> 0:09:40.559 money for being but they sending it on the invoys though, 0:09:40.640 --> 0:09:43.439 like helping the label paid. So when the label you 0:09:43.480 --> 0:09:45.920 know what I'm saying, like it's treaty ship, but you 0:09:45.960 --> 0:09:47.959 still got to pay. You gotta pay for that. Yeah, yeah, 0:09:48.120 --> 0:09:50.080 Sean be going for that ship though. I'll call then 0:09:50.080 --> 0:09:53.760 engineer as my producer myself, like, Yo, come on, bro 0:09:53.960 --> 0:09:56.439 right that ship coming out of my pocket. Help me out. 0:09:56.440 --> 0:09:59.840 I'll help you out. Uh, your opinion? The best cony 0:09:59.840 --> 0:10:03.120 I liand in Detroit. L. George is on six Mile 0:10:03.840 --> 0:10:07.480 and and it's on the west side too, from the 0:10:07.480 --> 0:10:09.880 east side, right, so you gotta say L. George is 0:10:09.920 --> 0:10:13.600 on six mile and I think Schaefer. Yeah, we went 0:10:13.640 --> 0:10:16.080 to a Bronx. In the Bronx, somebody told us to 0:10:16.080 --> 0:10:19.440 go to a place that was by truth, it was 0:10:19.960 --> 0:10:23.760 a drive a drive through. You're talking about a Nikki Nikki. 0:10:24.000 --> 0:10:26.440 That ship was terrible, that's it. That ship was not good. 0:10:27.000 --> 0:10:29.120 Right across the street at the corner, yep, on the corner. 0:10:29.440 --> 0:10:32.320 Not it first first, literally the first Cony Island ever 0:10:32.360 --> 0:10:34.880 went to, Like yeah, gold the corner, not it. It 0:10:35.000 --> 0:10:36.800 just told you to go there. Maybe because you was close. 0:10:37.280 --> 0:10:40.640 Maybe it was on eight mile, right, Yeah, that's it. Yeah, 0:10:40.720 --> 0:10:44.560 eight mile of min I was on some real I 0:10:44.600 --> 0:10:46.360 went to M and M's trailer park when I was 0:10:46.360 --> 0:10:48.280 in Detroit. A lot of people want a lot of 0:10:48.320 --> 0:10:50.400 people do that. I was like, oh, ship, I get it. 0:10:51.000 --> 0:10:54.360 You know what's funny is like like I went to 0:10:54.480 --> 0:11:01.080 a Tech nine concert out there and I saw the 0:11:01.200 --> 0:11:05.440 Detroit white trash and in that moment I understood the 0:11:05.440 --> 0:11:08.440 whole eminem thing fully because I was like, Oh, these 0:11:08.600 --> 0:11:12.720 this is just a venue full of eminems that didn't 0:11:12.760 --> 0:11:15.040 make it because they got their world over there. They 0:11:15.080 --> 0:11:17.320 do don't know about it. Yeah, we just right up 0:11:17.360 --> 0:11:19.200 a mile and we see them trailer parks, but we 0:11:19.200 --> 0:11:21.480 don't know what's going on. And you know what I'm saying, 0:11:21.520 --> 0:11:24.720 it's pretty crazy, man. I will say this still like 0:11:25.000 --> 0:11:27.719 I think, uh, you know, I spent about six or 0:11:27.760 --> 0:11:30.240 seven days out there, and I loved it man, in Detroit. 0:11:30.400 --> 0:11:32.480 I loved it there. Detroit cool, man. I feel like, 0:11:32.760 --> 0:11:35.720 I feel like people gotta go. That's why I like, 0:11:35.960 --> 0:11:38.800 the most beautiful black women in the world were there too. Yeah, 0:11:39.000 --> 0:11:41.240 we got nice women in Detroit. I don't lie. Yeah, 0:11:41.320 --> 0:11:46.319 and everybody hustlers in Detroit first, you know what I'm saying. 0:11:47.040 --> 0:11:49.280 Before anything, like, I know you hear about a lot 0:11:49.320 --> 0:11:53.560 of bullshit, but niggas get money, females get money. Like 0:11:53.559 --> 0:11:56.080 everybody is trying to get some money in Detroit, right, 0:11:56.720 --> 0:11:58.839 and like you can go down there and do what 0:11:58.880 --> 0:12:01.120 everyone do. 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I feel like when you get incarcerated 0:16:08.400 --> 0:16:11.480 and put you through some some mental anguish, Oh man, 0:16:13.040 --> 0:16:16.120 how did you have to like how were you able 0:16:16.160 --> 0:16:20.880 to still stay motivated and still stay I guess like 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:25.120 saying going through that because you get locked up and 0:16:25.200 --> 0:16:26.760 kind of like at the peak of your career at 0:16:26.760 --> 0:16:29.480 the time, how do you how do you get on 0:16:29.800 --> 0:16:31.400 get out on the other side of that, and and 0:16:31.400 --> 0:16:35.200 and and work and be bigger and better than ever? Well, 0:16:35.240 --> 0:16:37.520 because I know I have a long time was a 0:16:37.560 --> 0:16:41.280 couple of years, two years? Yeah, so and that two 0:16:41.360 --> 0:16:43.640 years I'm like, shit, I'm go ahead and do what 0:16:43.680 --> 0:16:45.960 I need to do because I know I'm everything happened 0:16:46.000 --> 0:16:47.360 for a reason, you know what I'm saying, Even though 0:16:47.360 --> 0:16:49.880 I went to jail for some serious ship, right Like 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:51.920 I went to jail for what everybody went to jail 0:16:51.920 --> 0:16:54.640 o nwh liuto Rico. I really went to jail for that, 0:16:54.640 --> 0:16:56.480 you know what I'm saying. And I know I was 0:16:56.520 --> 0:16:58.360 in jail for serious charges, but it wasn't for long 0:16:58.400 --> 0:17:01.000 because I didn't have a criminal record. So right and 0:17:01.080 --> 0:17:03.440 that time, I read books like I never read. You 0:17:03.520 --> 0:17:05.919 know what I'm saying, I left. I dropped out of 0:17:05.920 --> 0:17:08.399 school in the eleventh grade. I didn't say I dropped 0:17:08.400 --> 0:17:09.840 out like I dropped out of high school. Like I 0:17:09.880 --> 0:17:13.280 dropped out in eleventh grade. I went. Circumstances at home 0:17:13.400 --> 0:17:16.199 was kind of like rough, so I stopped going. But 0:17:16.440 --> 0:17:18.520 I went to school up until the eleventh grade. And 0:17:19.480 --> 0:17:22.080 what the fuck was I saying? You're talking about? You 0:17:22.160 --> 0:17:23.760 just started to read? You were reading in jail, I 0:17:23.800 --> 0:17:26.760 was reading. So I started back reading, writing, getting my 0:17:26.800 --> 0:17:28.480 hand writing back, because I said, in the whole for 0:17:28.520 --> 0:17:31.280 three months. So in that time, like I had to, 0:17:31.320 --> 0:17:33.640 I couldn't do number right home twenty three hours a day, 0:17:34.200 --> 0:17:37.240 twenty four hours a day in the pandemic. You know, 0:17:38.520 --> 0:17:42.200 really facts, and you gotta sell it, mate, it's crazy. 0:17:42.640 --> 0:17:44.560 And you're just in there with the dude in there. 0:17:45.000 --> 0:17:48.359 Stop nah, stop, And you know how they say, you know, 0:17:48.400 --> 0:17:52.000 two days the same, Yeah, every day, the same fuck man, 0:17:52.160 --> 0:17:56.399 every day the same. But what you do get is 0:17:56.680 --> 0:18:00.680 a piece of mind. You learn yourself. You sit back 0:18:00.760 --> 0:18:04.520 and and it's quiet and and and you figure out, like, 0:18:04.640 --> 0:18:07.919 what the fuck am I doing back here? What did I? Like? 0:18:08.200 --> 0:18:09.760 What did I do? Like you know what I'm saying? 0:18:09.800 --> 0:18:11.399 And you think and you figure it out like I 0:18:11.520 --> 0:18:14.000 N I never I can, I never come back. You 0:18:14.080 --> 0:18:16.880 end up getting closer with your something made I do. Uh, 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.560 you ain't know something funny, right, I don't know if 0:18:19.560 --> 0:18:22.439 you know. I don't even know if you remember. Like 0:18:22.440 --> 0:18:25.199 the guy that went viral in the pandemic for like 0:18:25.240 --> 0:18:28.280 making the jail video and shit, yeah, he was my 0:18:28.400 --> 0:18:32.080 salemate in there. Oh really facts, that's crazy man. When 0:18:32.080 --> 0:18:34.879 they put me in there with him, I was like, Yo, 0:18:34.960 --> 0:18:36.920 what the fuck they put me here with this guy? Folk? 0:18:36.920 --> 0:18:39.639 Cause I got caught with a cell phone right and 0:18:39.720 --> 0:18:41.560 it was weird and shit, I checked the whole room 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:43.560 for bugs and shit. I'm like, man, it's this they 0:18:43.560 --> 0:18:45.400 put me here, They trying to trap me and shit. 0:18:45.480 --> 0:18:48.679 But why he ended up being cool and shit, hella intelligent, 0:18:48.840 --> 0:18:53.639 like reading man, got bookstacked to the Yeah, so you 0:18:53.720 --> 0:18:55.720 able to u I you able to like kind of 0:18:55.720 --> 0:18:57.640 readjust some here, you know, Like I mean, you really 0:18:57.640 --> 0:19:01.640 ain't got shit else to do? But read and read, write, write, 0:19:01.680 --> 0:19:05.480 as you know. I don't write. So when I got 0:19:05.480 --> 0:19:07.159 in there, I'm like, I gotta write some music, at 0:19:07.200 --> 0:19:10.240 least on a normal basis. You do punching in Yeah, 0:19:10.480 --> 0:19:13.760 so in jail, you got books of rhymes. Now, I 0:19:13.760 --> 0:19:17.000 wrote like forty raps in there. That's crazy, have you 0:19:17.080 --> 0:19:21.960 that's forty songs? You recorded them? I recorded maybe ten 0:19:22.040 --> 0:19:24.800 of them. That's that's not a bad ratio. I recorded 0:19:24.800 --> 0:19:27.280 maybe ten. It's heating there though. I got heat in there. 0:19:27.359 --> 0:19:29.080 I don't die, but I don't. I just don't remember 0:19:29.080 --> 0:19:31.560 whereas that because I moved into three different cribs. You 0:19:31.600 --> 0:19:33.199 can't write to the beat. Maybe you gotta beat in 0:19:33.240 --> 0:19:36.040 your head. Nah. When I came home, I was making 0:19:36.040 --> 0:19:37.679 that ship go to beats like I just had so 0:19:37.720 --> 0:19:39.400 many of them. I'm like, whatever, go to a beat, 0:19:39.960 --> 0:19:41.879 you know what I'm saying? Like like perk ten, I 0:19:41.920 --> 0:19:43.320 wrote that in jail. I don't know if you know 0:19:43.359 --> 0:19:45.439 that's perkteen. I wrote that in jail. So that's a 0:19:45.480 --> 0:19:48.200 jail record. Yeah, I wrote that in jail. My last 0:19:48.240 --> 0:19:51.399 intro on a Free Real album, I wrote that in jail. 0:19:54.119 --> 0:19:55.880 A couple more of my rod and I can't think 0:19:55.920 --> 0:19:58.159 off the head? What do you feel? Uh, you know, 0:19:58.280 --> 0:20:04.919 obviously as somebody who was incarcerated from RICO and the 0:20:05.119 --> 0:20:07.600 RICO stuff that's happening in hip hop obviously in Atlanta, 0:20:09.200 --> 0:20:12.639 And it feels like that the snitching thing is a 0:20:12.640 --> 0:20:16.280 lot more prevalent than it's ever been because paperworkers, I 0:20:16.320 --> 0:20:18.639 guess easier to get to. I don't know, but like, 0:20:19.000 --> 0:20:21.480 what are your thoughts on, just like how artists should 0:20:21.640 --> 0:20:26.320