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Speaker 1: movie that win an Oscar gets like eight sequels. It's

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Speaker 1: like it's like there's there's there's it's just incentivizing people

425
00:23:26,920 --> 00:23:31,040
Speaker 1: to watch these shows as they film more episodes. That's

426
00:23:31,080 --> 00:23:34,359
Speaker 1: just like that's kind of built into the Emmys in

427
00:23:34,359 --> 00:23:37,479
Speaker 1: a way that UM is unique to them, as this

428
00:23:37,640 --> 00:23:41,800
Speaker 1: Awards show. Do you watch Ship's Creek, Jess? Yes? Do

429
00:23:41,840 --> 00:23:44,240
Speaker 1: you love it? I love it? I do think it's

430
00:23:44,320 --> 00:23:48,480
Speaker 1: not a perfect shell. Sometimes I get I'm uninterested in

431
00:23:48,560 --> 00:23:55,440
Speaker 1: storylines or uninterested in characters, but like you said, Annie Murphy,

432
00:23:55,760 --> 00:24:01,440
Speaker 1: I mean she is Trusseau fucking amazing. I cannot and

433
00:24:01,520 --> 00:24:06,080
Speaker 1: like the four, the core four are incredible. The ancillary

434
00:24:06,200 --> 00:24:10,280
Speaker 1: characters I don't love as much. Yeah, for me, it

435
00:24:10,400 --> 00:24:12,240
Speaker 1: just started really slow, so it was hard for me

436
00:24:12,280 --> 00:24:14,159
Speaker 1: to get into it, and that's why I haven't. I

437
00:24:14,240 --> 00:24:18,040
Speaker 1: think it obviously hit a stride um at some point

438
00:24:18,119 --> 00:24:20,920
Speaker 1: because people love it so much and I am interested

439
00:24:20,960 --> 00:24:23,480
Speaker 1: to get into it. My thing is just like it

440
00:24:23,600 --> 00:24:26,840
Speaker 1: won all four acting awards and series and writing and directing,

441
00:24:26,880 --> 00:24:29,040
Speaker 1: and that to me is just like wild. And you

442
00:24:29,119 --> 00:24:31,439
Speaker 1: also can't use the excuse to me where it's like,

443
00:24:31,680 --> 00:24:33,680
Speaker 1: well they didn't win anything for the first four or

444
00:24:33,720 --> 00:24:36,320
Speaker 1: five years or whatever, because it's like Keenan is there

445
00:24:36,400 --> 00:24:38,840
Speaker 1: and he hasn't one ship for sixteen years. Okay, Betty

446
00:24:39,200 --> 00:24:42,800
Speaker 1: has not been recognized for Glow and Darcy Cardon literally

447
00:24:42,800 --> 00:24:45,359
Speaker 1: had no nominations until this year. So don't use the

448
00:24:45,400 --> 00:24:48,360
Speaker 1: whole thing of but they've never gotten anything with me

449
00:24:48,520 --> 00:24:51,359
Speaker 1: because that it doesn't hold any water. But Matt, you

450
00:24:51,400 --> 00:24:54,280
Speaker 1: haven't watched any of these like sweepy shows, this, this year.

451
00:24:54,320 --> 00:24:56,560
Speaker 1: You haven't even seen watch when you haven't seen Succession?

452
00:24:56,680 --> 00:24:58,679
Speaker 1: Is that correct? Why are you doing this to me?

453
00:24:59,119 --> 00:25:02,480
Speaker 1: I haven't seen watched either. You're not alone. I'm just

454
00:25:02,560 --> 00:25:04,800
Speaker 1: staying like, does I mean this? No? This probably gives

455
00:25:04,840 --> 00:25:07,080
Speaker 1: you some perspective on this, where you're like, as someone

456
00:25:07,119 --> 00:25:09,880
Speaker 1: who doesn't watch these shows and as someone who consumes

457
00:25:09,920 --> 00:25:12,359
Speaker 1: a lot of TV, I haven't watched these shows, and

458
00:25:12,400 --> 00:25:15,359
Speaker 1: so these awards don't speak to me as a viewer,

459
00:25:15,800 --> 00:25:18,240
Speaker 1: to my viewing habit. Well, you know, I guess it's

460
00:25:18,240 --> 00:25:19,919
Speaker 1: just I'm not I'm not I'm not like, I'm not

461
00:25:19,920 --> 00:25:24,639
Speaker 1: like discrediting you and I are doing this. I just

462
00:25:24,680 --> 00:25:26,200
Speaker 1: want to know why you're doing this to me. First

463
00:25:26,200 --> 00:25:28,439
Speaker 1: of all, my one question my back he was number one.

464
00:25:28,480 --> 00:25:30,119
Speaker 1: Why are you doing this? Why are you doing Second

465
00:25:30,119 --> 00:25:33,800
Speaker 1: of all is literally this, there is so much stuff

466
00:25:33,840 --> 00:25:36,760
Speaker 1: and this, this is the real truth. Over the past

467
00:25:36,880 --> 00:25:40,000
Speaker 1: like months of quarantine, I have not wanted to watch

468
00:25:40,000 --> 00:25:43,399
Speaker 1: anything substantial. I've only wanted to watch the most trash

469
00:25:43,560 --> 00:25:45,719
Speaker 1: thing I can put in front of me, seriously, and

470
00:25:45,760 --> 00:25:48,000
Speaker 1: so stuff that goes down it's not trash, it's just

471
00:25:48,040 --> 00:25:51,080
Speaker 1: stuff that goes down easy. Yes, you're right, it's not trash,

472
00:25:51,119 --> 00:25:53,560
Speaker 1: and it's actually important to say reality TV is not

473
00:25:53,600 --> 00:25:59,199
Speaker 1: trash and it's real culture. Number three TV is not trash.

474
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Speaker 1: What a hot tape? I actually, I'm so hot. I'm

475
00:26:03,160 --> 00:26:06,560
Speaker 1: so hot on this take. But I I here's the thing,

476
00:26:06,640 --> 00:26:09,920
Speaker 1: Like Watchman, everyone, everyone that's obsessed with it is so

477
00:26:10,800 --> 00:26:14,960
Speaker 1: will love it. It's one of it's one of the

478
00:26:15,000 --> 00:26:18,640
Speaker 1: best things I've ever seen. The same thing with Succession

479
00:26:18,880 --> 00:26:21,760
Speaker 1: and Ship's Creek. People are fanatical about it, which means

480
00:26:21,760 --> 00:26:23,800
Speaker 1: it's got to be doing something right. I just feel

481
00:26:23,840 --> 00:26:27,360
Speaker 1: like it's crazy when one thing dominates everything. And I'm

482
00:26:27,400 --> 00:26:29,320
Speaker 1: on the record with this about the Grammys too, because

483
00:26:29,320 --> 00:26:31,679
Speaker 1: the Grammys is really bad with it where it's like

484
00:26:31,720 --> 00:26:35,399
Speaker 1: it feels like one artist comes in and they win everything,

485
00:26:35,480 --> 00:26:38,479
Speaker 1: and it's like, you know, it's it's just weird. And

486
00:26:38,520 --> 00:26:41,320
Speaker 1: I also understand that, you know the nature of the

487
00:26:41,320 --> 00:26:44,480
Speaker 1: way the Television Academy votes. It's not like you get

488
00:26:44,480 --> 00:26:46,480
Speaker 1: a ballot and you fail out everything. You know, actors

489
00:26:46,480 --> 00:26:49,959
Speaker 1: will for actors, writers will for writers, producers vote for

490
00:26:50,560 --> 00:26:55,359
Speaker 1: shows that, um the top line shows or whatever. So

491
00:26:55,400 --> 00:26:57,520
Speaker 1: I get that it's not like that. It's just always

492
00:26:57,880 --> 00:27:00,360
Speaker 1: seems to shake out a certain way, and I'm like,

493
00:27:00,760 --> 00:27:04,240
Speaker 1: you know, this can't possibly be true, but I get

494
00:27:04,359 --> 00:27:06,359
Speaker 1: that people love what they love and I'm not coming

495
00:27:06,359 --> 00:27:10,440
Speaker 1: for ships creak. The way that people reacted to Go Away,

496
00:27:10,600 --> 00:27:17,280
Speaker 1: the white gaze and it is us. They were eating

497
00:27:17,320 --> 00:27:20,600
Speaker 1: their own. Can I say something about Succession? Please? You

498
00:27:20,680 --> 00:27:24,560
Speaker 1: can say whatever you want whatever, this is your episode. Well,

499
00:27:24,560 --> 00:27:26,920
Speaker 1: I just want to let you know, Matt, that it

500
00:27:26,960 --> 00:27:30,719
Speaker 1: took me three episodes to really get into Succession. The

501
00:27:30,760 --> 00:27:33,760
Speaker 1: beginning was kind of slow for me, and I probably

502
00:27:33,760 --> 00:27:36,680
Speaker 1: watched those three episodes within like a two month period,

503
00:27:37,119 --> 00:27:39,480
Speaker 1: Like I just was not looking for it, and I

504
00:27:39,520 --> 00:27:41,879
Speaker 1: was like, and my friend Sammy was just like, you

505
00:27:41,880 --> 00:27:43,920
Speaker 1: gotta watch it. It's so so good. And then finally

506
00:27:43,960 --> 00:27:45,600
Speaker 1: I was like, okay, fine, I'm just gonna sit down

507
00:27:45,640 --> 00:27:48,080
Speaker 1: and really watch this. And then episode four or five,

508
00:27:48,080 --> 00:27:50,919
Speaker 1: and then I was like totally Yeah. By the end

509
00:27:50,960 --> 00:27:54,800
Speaker 1: of season one, you're like, yeah, you're in. And and Matt,

510
00:27:54,880 --> 00:27:57,120
Speaker 1: you will be obsessed with HIV. The character of HIV

511
00:27:57,280 --> 00:28:00,439
Speaker 1: you will love. I just first of all, doesn't she

512
00:28:00,480 --> 00:28:02,199
Speaker 1: look like a pin up character from or a pin

513
00:28:02,280 --> 00:28:05,840
Speaker 1: up girl from the forties. It's just that's what I

514
00:28:05,840 --> 00:28:10,080
Speaker 1: think of and you know she's Australian. Yeah. And um,

515
00:28:10,119 --> 00:28:15,880
Speaker 1: and the the husband wait Tom Tom Tom Tom Tom

516
00:28:15,920 --> 00:28:19,760
Speaker 1: is British. He is. Yeah. Let me just tell you

517
00:28:19,800 --> 00:28:23,520
Speaker 1: the acting. It's the best acted show I've ever seen. Yes,

518
00:28:23,760 --> 00:28:25,800
Speaker 1: very good acting. I mean you're talking to someone whose

519
00:28:25,840 --> 00:28:27,600
Speaker 1: favorite show of all time is mad Men, So I

520
00:28:27,600 --> 00:28:33,080
Speaker 1: don't mind sitting with amazing show. I just think it

521
00:28:33,160 --> 00:28:36,640
Speaker 1: was so welcome. Accession is like mad Men. There's there's

522
00:28:36,640 --> 00:28:38,880
Speaker 1: tons of mad Men, but it's also so funny. It's

523
00:28:38,880 --> 00:28:41,560
Speaker 1: like here and Colkin is so good. He's so good,

524
00:28:42,600 --> 00:28:44,520
Speaker 1: is such a good character. I mean, there's there's so

525
00:28:44,600 --> 00:28:47,520
Speaker 1: much to like about the show. There are really there

526
00:28:47,560 --> 00:28:51,920
Speaker 1: are funny moments where you're not expecting it. Yeah, I'm excited.

527
00:28:52,040 --> 00:28:54,560
Speaker 1: I'm really excited to start watching it because I do

528
00:28:54,680 --> 00:28:56,800
Speaker 1: think I will love it. Um. And then we should

529
00:28:56,840 --> 00:29:03,800
Speaker 1: just also say the biggest shout out to missus zendayah One.

530
00:29:04,280 --> 00:29:09,240
Speaker 1: She deserves it. She that role she played, Holy shit,

531
00:29:10,160 --> 00:29:13,040
Speaker 1: she was so good in that. It's one of those

532
00:29:13,080 --> 00:29:17,280
Speaker 1: it's it's this Matt Rodgers criterion where no other actor

533
00:29:17,360 --> 00:29:20,400
Speaker 1: could have done that. I always say, like the award

534
00:29:20,440 --> 00:29:23,440
Speaker 1: should go to someone who it feels like, no one

535
00:29:23,480 --> 00:29:25,400
Speaker 1: else could have done that part, you know what I mean.

536
00:29:25,440 --> 00:29:29,320
Speaker 1: And I actually rewatched the scene where she goes to

537
00:29:29,840 --> 00:29:31,880
Speaker 1: It was episode three of Euphoria, and it's a scene

538
00:29:31,880 --> 00:29:34,520
Speaker 1: where she goes to get drugs from her dealer and

539
00:29:34,600 --> 00:29:36,600
Speaker 1: he says to her for the first time, I'm not

540
00:29:36,680 --> 00:29:39,040
Speaker 1: giving them to you, and then she like freaks out

541
00:29:39,080 --> 00:29:41,280
Speaker 1: at the door and she basically has a panic attack

542
00:29:41,320 --> 00:29:44,040
Speaker 1: at the door. I was like, you know, this young

543
00:29:44,080 --> 00:29:49,360
Speaker 1: girl's India is beyond she is. Not only is she

544
00:29:49,440 --> 00:29:51,800
Speaker 1: a star in the way that she carries herself, but

545
00:29:52,240 --> 00:29:56,280
Speaker 1: she is so gifted at acting. She's a great dancer,

546
00:29:56,520 --> 00:29:59,920
Speaker 1: she is a fantastic singer. I mean, she's a cat

547
00:30:00,080 --> 00:30:06,560
Speaker 1: debating she's one. She's like like real crown jewel of

548
00:30:06,640 --> 00:30:09,080
Speaker 1: her entire generation. And we're gonna be talking about her

549
00:30:09,120 --> 00:30:13,720
Speaker 1: for years to come. I believe she is so good. Yes,

550
00:30:13,920 --> 00:30:15,320
Speaker 1: we're gonna take a quick break and then we'll be

551
00:30:15,360 --> 00:30:25,720
Speaker 1: back with jess Rona. We're back with jess Rona. I

552
00:30:25,760 --> 00:30:28,520
Speaker 1: want to know something. I want both of you too

553
00:30:28,760 --> 00:30:31,560
Speaker 1: in tandem. I want both of you to in tandem. Oh,

554
00:30:32,080 --> 00:30:35,880
Speaker 1: track the beginnings of the meeting. The report you guys

555
00:30:35,920 --> 00:30:37,680
Speaker 1: built on set. I want to know every because because Matt,

556
00:30:37,680 --> 00:30:43,040
Speaker 1: because Jess, Matt was truly singing your praises every single day.

557
00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:46,960
Speaker 1: So cool. I love you, I adore you. Talk about

558
00:30:47,000 --> 00:30:49,000
Speaker 1: the process of of of the show and and and

559
00:30:49,080 --> 00:30:51,720
Speaker 1: how you guys became friends over the course of production. Well,

560
00:30:51,800 --> 00:30:54,080
Speaker 1: I just want to say, and like, this isn't like

561
00:30:54,120 --> 00:30:56,360
Speaker 1: what happened at the beginning, but I just will actually

562
00:30:56,400 --> 00:31:00,480
Speaker 1: know right away. I knew Matt is so easy to

563
00:31:00,520 --> 00:31:03,800
Speaker 1: talk to, and I'm sure isn't he Like he just

564
00:31:03,840 --> 00:31:06,440
Speaker 1: like gets right there. And I think it's part partly

565
00:31:06,440 --> 00:31:09,080
Speaker 1: because he's a Pisces, but like he'll just like get

566
00:31:09,120 --> 00:31:11,840
Speaker 1: on your level and just if you're on your knees,

567
00:31:11,840 --> 00:31:13,760
Speaker 1: he'll get on his knees and just look at like

568
00:31:14,000 --> 00:31:16,960
Speaker 1: we're in this together, and like let's unpack, you know,

569
00:31:17,120 --> 00:31:23,080
Speaker 1: let's talk. And I'm an Arieska is very good. I

570
00:31:23,080 --> 00:31:32,240
Speaker 1: supposed to marrion Arees. Really, I'm supposed to really. Oh,

571
00:31:32,320 --> 00:31:36,000
Speaker 1: I get along well with Scorpios. I are we both

572
00:31:36,040 --> 00:31:42,440
Speaker 1: fire signs? No water? Gotcha? I'm water water water water

573
00:31:42,560 --> 00:31:51,200
Speaker 1: water yeah, water placement. I just are you water your water? Okay.

574
00:31:52,400 --> 00:31:54,360
Speaker 1: I knew immediately that we were going to get along.

575
00:31:54,480 --> 00:31:56,360
Speaker 1: We actually have a mutual friend. And literally, this is

576
00:31:56,400 --> 00:31:59,880
Speaker 1: so funny because Bowen knows this person too from high school. Liz.

577
00:32:00,960 --> 00:32:05,000
Speaker 1: Oh my god, Lizz, You want to with Liz? She

578
00:32:05,120 --> 00:32:07,360
Speaker 1: was my sister's year in high school? Yeah, no way.

579
00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:10,040
Speaker 1: So Liz is a writer. She writes for She's written

580
00:32:10,080 --> 00:32:12,920
Speaker 1: for so many things, most recently Special And I know

581
00:32:13,000 --> 00:32:16,760
Speaker 1: her because she's very close with Jared Um. But this

582
00:32:17,000 --> 00:32:18,680
Speaker 1: that was when we first started talking about And I

583
00:32:18,680 --> 00:32:22,200
Speaker 1: always I stand having a mutual friend with someone. I

584
00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:23,840
Speaker 1: love it because then you can just talk about that

585
00:32:23,920 --> 00:32:26,480
Speaker 1: mutual friend for like forty seconds to a minute, and

586
00:32:26,520 --> 00:32:28,240
Speaker 1: then you're off to the races. You have the rhythm,

587
00:32:28,680 --> 00:32:32,440
Speaker 1: and then you're oh my god, if you're ever shout

588
00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960
Speaker 1: out to anyone out there, any reader who's nervous about

589
00:32:34,960 --> 00:32:37,520
Speaker 1: meeting someone, how and you wanted to go, Well, find

590
00:32:37,600 --> 00:32:40,680
Speaker 1: the mutual friends. That's so true. What if they're a

591
00:32:40,800 --> 00:32:43,200
Speaker 1: mutual friend, what are they to do? You got to

592
00:32:43,280 --> 00:32:47,520
Speaker 1: service them sexually? Yes, and then you're off to the

593
00:32:47,600 --> 00:32:55,360
Speaker 1: races and seconds later, rhythm, you're off to the races. Wait,

594
00:32:55,440 --> 00:32:58,680
Speaker 1: speaking of shoutouts, before this episode is over, I need

595
00:32:58,720 --> 00:33:00,960
Speaker 1: to make a shout out to one of your and

596
00:33:01,000 --> 00:33:05,120
Speaker 1: you call your listeners readers, readers. One of your readers

597
00:33:05,240 --> 00:33:10,000
Speaker 1: is a groomer and he's in Florida. His name is

598
00:33:10,120 --> 00:33:13,520
Speaker 1: Jonathan David and he loves you guys. And he's like,

599
00:33:13,600 --> 00:33:16,400
Speaker 1: oh my god, I was listening to last cultural stas

600
00:33:16,400 --> 00:33:18,960
Speaker 1: and I just and they just announced that Matt is

601
00:33:19,000 --> 00:33:23,880
Speaker 1: the host of hot Dog. That's my favorite podcast, and

602
00:33:24,200 --> 00:33:27,040
Speaker 1: so he's going to flip when I was like, oh,

603
00:33:27,080 --> 00:33:30,320
Speaker 1: I'm gonna shout out Jonathan. He's a very well known

604
00:33:30,400 --> 00:33:34,840
Speaker 1: dog groomer and he's Yes, he is just so talented.

605
00:33:34,880 --> 00:33:37,520
Speaker 1: He's a judge. He's like very fancy in the grooming world.

606
00:33:37,800 --> 00:33:45,440
Speaker 1: Will he come on the show? Yes, play out compete?

607
00:33:45,440 --> 00:33:46,880
Speaker 1: Oh I thought you even like as a guest on

608
00:33:46,880 --> 00:33:49,719
Speaker 1: this show. I was like, oh my god. Yes. Now

609
00:33:49,920 --> 00:33:52,080
Speaker 1: here's the thing, Like, I don't think he wants to

610
00:33:52,240 --> 00:33:55,400
Speaker 1: compete anymore. I think he wants to just be a judge.

611
00:33:56,080 --> 00:33:58,520
Speaker 1: Like he doesn't want to go back to competing. That's interesting.

612
00:33:58,680 --> 00:34:00,880
Speaker 1: He's he's he's earned his spot. But okay, so I

613
00:34:01,400 --> 00:34:03,760
Speaker 1: still want to know more about this um this this

614
00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,600
Speaker 1: friendship betting. But but just talk a little bit to

615
00:34:06,720 --> 00:34:08,360
Speaker 1: me as a as a as a person who's not

616
00:34:08,480 --> 00:34:12,120
Speaker 1: versed in this, who's not literate, Um, what what the

617
00:34:12,239 --> 00:34:15,000
Speaker 1: what the network of dog groomers? How that sort of

618
00:34:15,040 --> 00:34:16,759
Speaker 1: what that looks like? What the shape of that is like?

619
00:34:16,760 --> 00:34:19,160
Speaker 1: Because I feel like you came into it. You came

620
00:34:19,200 --> 00:34:20,560
Speaker 1: into it the way you came into it with these

621
00:34:20,560 --> 00:34:23,600
Speaker 1: like these incredible videos, and then did you start to

622
00:34:23,600 --> 00:34:26,040
Speaker 1: sort of like pick up on this network that was

623
00:34:26,080 --> 00:34:29,439
Speaker 1: already sort of in place. I actually, So there are

624
00:34:29,800 --> 00:34:33,680
Speaker 1: trade shows and conventions throughout the year all over the

625
00:34:33,760 --> 00:34:36,920
Speaker 1: United States, and it's always the same people at the

626
00:34:36,920 --> 00:34:40,000
Speaker 1: trade shows, all the same scissor booths, and you know,

627
00:34:40,440 --> 00:34:47,280
Speaker 1: and Matt loves when I say scissoring spray, scissoring spray. Um.

628
00:34:47,360 --> 00:34:50,960
Speaker 1: You know, like you see all the same people. Um.

629
00:34:51,080 --> 00:34:54,480
Speaker 1: And there are grooming competitions at these trade shows, and

630
00:34:54,480 --> 00:34:56,719
Speaker 1: you see all the same competitors. So it's kind of

631
00:34:56,719 --> 00:35:00,680
Speaker 1: like a grooming community. And so I I was, I

632
00:35:00,719 --> 00:35:03,680
Speaker 1: was competing back in two thousand twelve, and I was

633
00:35:03,760 --> 00:35:07,400
Speaker 1: just really invested and involved in the grooming world, wanting

634
00:35:07,440 --> 00:35:11,360
Speaker 1: to get better. There's seminars, classes, It's a whole world

635
00:35:11,960 --> 00:35:16,000
Speaker 1: that people don't It's an amazing it really is. And

636
00:35:16,080 --> 00:35:18,480
Speaker 1: so Jonathan David is sort of like he's he judges

637
00:35:18,520 --> 00:35:22,800
Speaker 1: grooming competitions and he's just he teaches seminars people asking

638
00:35:22,880 --> 00:35:27,080
Speaker 1: for advice on haircuts or business and because his business

639
00:35:27,120 --> 00:35:30,719
Speaker 1: is really successful and so he's sort of like that

640
00:35:30,800 --> 00:35:34,000
Speaker 1: type of person in the industry. Um. But yeah, I

641
00:35:34,040 --> 00:35:37,040
Speaker 1: started making my videos actually when I was kind of

642
00:35:37,080 --> 00:35:39,640
Speaker 1: in a dark, low place in my life and I

643
00:35:39,680 --> 00:35:44,040
Speaker 1: was just antsy, and so the videos weren't really like, well,

644
00:35:44,040 --> 00:35:46,960
Speaker 1: they made me well known in like the real world,

645
00:35:47,520 --> 00:35:50,640
Speaker 1: but like, um, I didn't get well known in the

646
00:35:50,680 --> 00:35:55,680
Speaker 1: grooming world until like a few years later. M And

647
00:35:55,760 --> 00:35:57,600
Speaker 1: so what what was that? Was that just kind of

648
00:35:57,640 --> 00:35:59,919
Speaker 1: like you built an Instagram presence or were you doing

649
00:36:00,000 --> 00:36:02,040
Speaker 1: really well on the circuit? Like how did you become?

650
00:36:02,080 --> 00:36:04,439
Speaker 1: Because you should see like and you will see like

651
00:36:04,760 --> 00:36:09,160
Speaker 1: the respect and the reverence that the contestants have for Jess.

652
00:36:09,200 --> 00:36:13,279
Speaker 1: She truly is like you know them. I'm trying to

653
00:36:13,320 --> 00:36:16,239
Speaker 1: find a good one to one but like and I

654
00:36:16,280 --> 00:36:27,160
Speaker 1: don't we love Anne. We love but you know what

655
00:36:27,200 --> 00:36:28,800
Speaker 1: I'm saying is I'm trying to make a one to

656
00:36:28,920 --> 00:36:30,960
Speaker 1: one on another reality show. But like what I mean

657
00:36:31,040 --> 00:36:33,480
Speaker 1: is like she is like the Simon, like like if

658
00:36:33,520 --> 00:36:36,680
Speaker 1: you go in addition American very Mary, very Mary Barry,

659
00:36:36,800 --> 00:36:41,719
Speaker 1: maybe very that very like Tom Collichio that so. And

660
00:36:41,880 --> 00:36:44,480
Speaker 1: I was just like really observing everyone come in and

661
00:36:44,480 --> 00:36:46,200
Speaker 1: they see Jess and you know, they look at each

662
00:36:46,200 --> 00:36:48,319
Speaker 1: other and they're like, oh my god because they're seeing

663
00:36:48,360 --> 00:36:51,520
Speaker 1: like a celebrity to them, and um, a lot of

664
00:36:51,520 --> 00:36:53,919
Speaker 1: times you would know those groomers as well that we're

665
00:36:53,920 --> 00:36:56,160
Speaker 1: coming on and competing because this is the community, right,

666
00:36:56,280 --> 00:36:58,839
Speaker 1: like you all know each other. I knew a lot

667
00:36:58,880 --> 00:37:00,480
Speaker 1: of them, not all of them, but out of them.

668
00:37:00,520 --> 00:37:03,560
Speaker 1: But like you know when you meet someone and they're

669
00:37:03,640 --> 00:37:06,239
Speaker 1: just so good at what they do and you're just

670
00:37:06,320 --> 00:37:09,479
Speaker 1: like it's like magic that I'm like that with groomers too.

671
00:37:09,520 --> 00:37:13,440
Speaker 1: I'm like, your work is so good that you get

672
00:37:13,480 --> 00:37:17,319
Speaker 1: a little star struck. And um it's still, uh, you

673
00:37:17,360 --> 00:37:20,080
Speaker 1: know something I'm not used to when people react to

674
00:37:20,080 --> 00:37:22,880
Speaker 1: me that way, but um, yeah, that's how it is

675
00:37:22,920 --> 00:37:25,520
Speaker 1: in the grooming world. It's just a tiny version of like,

676
00:37:25,680 --> 00:37:28,480
Speaker 1: you know, Hollywood, just how did you get into it?

677
00:37:28,680 --> 00:37:30,759
Speaker 1: Like how did you get into dog grooming? Like what? What?

678
00:37:30,840 --> 00:37:33,399
Speaker 1: Because it's something that you know, you know, what has

679
00:37:33,440 --> 00:37:36,719
Speaker 1: to happen but you don't think about when you're like

680
00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,279
Speaker 1: growing up, like I'm gonna grow up and be a

681
00:37:38,280 --> 00:37:39,879
Speaker 1: dog groomer. It's just not what you think. So how

682
00:37:39,880 --> 00:37:44,080
Speaker 1: did you get into it? Not what I'm thinking? Some people, Yes, yes,

683
00:37:44,200 --> 00:37:47,160
Speaker 1: well a lot more now after this show comes out. Well,

684
00:37:47,320 --> 00:37:49,320
Speaker 1: I think so, I hope so I'd love to change

685
00:37:49,360 --> 00:37:53,839
Speaker 1: the grooming industry. Um. I stumbled upon it. I just

686
00:37:53,960 --> 00:37:56,000
Speaker 1: needed a job when I was eighteen, and I started

687
00:37:56,040 --> 00:37:59,000
Speaker 1: bathing dogs because it was the least nine to five

688
00:37:59,160 --> 00:38:02,120
Speaker 1: job I could find. Mind, my mom always got cat

689
00:38:02,200 --> 00:38:04,920
Speaker 1: food at pet Smart, and she dragged me to pet Smart,

690
00:38:05,040 --> 00:38:07,000
Speaker 1: you know, and she's like, oh, there's a help wanted sign.

691
00:38:07,040 --> 00:38:10,040
Speaker 1: You need a job, so and then on the application

692
00:38:10,360 --> 00:38:12,560
Speaker 1: there were all these different jobs that you could do

693
00:38:12,600 --> 00:38:15,279
Speaker 1: it pet Smart, like work in the aquatic section, or

694
00:38:15,400 --> 00:38:17,399
Speaker 1: work as a cashier or whatever. And then I see

695
00:38:17,440 --> 00:38:21,719
Speaker 1: dog bather and I was just like, Okay, well I

696
00:38:21,760 --> 00:38:25,560
Speaker 1: don't know anything about dogs. It sounds cute as fuck.

697
00:38:25,719 --> 00:38:30,400
Speaker 1: It doesn't sound like a regular job. And so I

698
00:38:30,440 --> 00:38:33,359
Speaker 1: started doing it without ever thinking it would turn into

699
00:38:33,400 --> 00:38:35,880
Speaker 1: a career. I was always wanting to be an actress.

700
00:38:36,360 --> 00:38:40,120
Speaker 1: I was class clown. I was like just a ham

701
00:38:40,360 --> 00:38:43,760
Speaker 1: wanting to be an actress. So I was like, Okay,

702
00:38:43,760 --> 00:38:46,200
Speaker 1: I'll do this for now. And then over the years,

703
00:38:46,200 --> 00:38:48,520
Speaker 1: I started grooming dogs more. I started learning, you know,

704
00:38:48,880 --> 00:38:51,160
Speaker 1: how to do a snoozer cut and what's a cocker

705
00:38:51,200 --> 00:38:54,759
Speaker 1: spaniel cut or whatever, and I just started to learn

706
00:38:54,800 --> 00:38:57,480
Speaker 1: how to do it over the years. So it just

707
00:38:57,560 --> 00:39:01,040
Speaker 1: kind of happened organically. And then how long after you're

708
00:39:01,080 --> 00:39:04,240
Speaker 1: doing it do you start competing? Oh my god. So

709
00:39:05,280 --> 00:39:09,399
Speaker 1: I I was also waiting tables a lot, and then

710
00:39:09,400 --> 00:39:11,720
Speaker 1: my my dream was to be a waiter or waitress

711
00:39:11,760 --> 00:39:14,800
Speaker 1: and I could wait tables and then go on auditions

712
00:39:14,880 --> 00:39:17,080
Speaker 1: during the day and wait tables at night. That was

713
00:39:17,160 --> 00:39:21,320
Speaker 1: my big goal. I wanted to do the grind, baby,

714
00:39:21,760 --> 00:39:24,520
Speaker 1: so I ended up Um. I was waiting tables at night,

715
00:39:24,520 --> 00:39:33,160
Speaker 1: grooming dogs During the day. I worked at Bukaa Bepo.

716
00:39:33,680 --> 00:39:38,000
Speaker 1: I worked at the one on CityWalk. Oh my god, incredible,

717
00:39:38,120 --> 00:39:40,640
Speaker 1: you are really a legend. Thank you so much. I

718
00:39:40,719 --> 00:39:43,359
Speaker 1: was on the tours of the kitchen, you know, when

719
00:39:43,400 --> 00:39:45,680
Speaker 1: you would go and people would give tours of the kitchen.

720
00:39:46,280 --> 00:39:48,600
Speaker 1: I would do that. I waited, I was a food runner.

721
00:39:48,760 --> 00:39:51,160
Speaker 1: I was just like, my dream was to be a waitress.

722
00:39:51,600 --> 00:39:53,799
Speaker 1: Oh my god, I was an iconic waitress too. I

723
00:39:53,840 --> 00:39:56,920
Speaker 1: was also runner. Yeah, there was a whole summer where

724
00:39:56,960 --> 00:39:58,759
Speaker 1: I was a food runner and I couldn't touch a

725
00:39:58,800 --> 00:40:00,879
Speaker 1: plate that was too hot. Give me a plate that's

726
00:40:01,520 --> 00:40:04,000
Speaker 1: I can handle it. Oh, I bet I can see that.

727
00:40:04,200 --> 00:40:07,160
Speaker 1: And also we had three flights of stairs, so I

728
00:40:07,160 --> 00:40:09,279
Speaker 1: would carry and I could still do it if you

729
00:40:09,280 --> 00:40:11,040
Speaker 1: give me a big gass tray. I bet I can

730
00:40:11,080 --> 00:40:14,520
Speaker 1: carry three lasagnas on that tray up three flights stairs.

731
00:40:14,560 --> 00:40:21,800
Speaker 1: I bet I could do it. Afterwards, honestly, name another legend.

732
00:40:22,160 --> 00:40:24,919
Speaker 1: Name another legend. That's my new thing. I say about

733
00:40:24,920 --> 00:40:28,600
Speaker 1: Bowen and now Jess name whatever. Whenever Boone puts out

734
00:40:28,880 --> 00:40:32,000
Speaker 1: a photo that's fire, I just say, name another legend

735
00:40:34,840 --> 00:40:38,000
Speaker 1: that's actually a title of that. Name another another legend.

736
00:40:38,040 --> 00:40:40,560
Speaker 1: I love that. Okay, so jazz. So you're waiting tables

737
00:40:40,719 --> 00:40:43,720
Speaker 1: and you start to compete. So yeah, So I waited

738
00:40:43,760 --> 00:40:48,120
Speaker 1: tables and I slowly started actually phasing out grooming, and

739
00:40:48,160 --> 00:40:53,080
Speaker 1: I moved to New York started doing UCB. I was

740
00:40:53,160 --> 00:40:57,160
Speaker 1: just like waiting table that also had three flights of stairs,

741
00:40:57,160 --> 00:41:00,920
Speaker 1: which was very weird. Um, and so I kind of

742
00:41:01,040 --> 00:41:03,880
Speaker 1: quit grooming for a little while, and then I realized

743
00:41:04,000 --> 00:41:06,320
Speaker 1: I don't want to be a waitress anymore. After six years,

744
00:41:07,000 --> 00:41:09,959
Speaker 1: I was just like, I I remember this skill I had,

745
00:41:10,280 --> 00:41:13,000
Speaker 1: and I was just like, I want to really get

746
00:41:13,000 --> 00:41:15,720
Speaker 1: good at grooming. So I came back to l A

747
00:41:15,719 --> 00:41:18,480
Speaker 1: after living in New York for a few years, and

748
00:41:19,000 --> 00:41:22,480
Speaker 1: I just dove into grooming dogs and that's where I

749
00:41:22,520 --> 00:41:26,120
Speaker 1: started competing. That's when I would meet my grooming idols

750
00:41:26,239 --> 00:41:29,160
Speaker 1: and asked him a million questions, and that's when I

751
00:41:29,239 --> 00:41:32,440
Speaker 1: just decided to get really good at it. Wow. But

752
00:41:32,560 --> 00:41:35,840
Speaker 1: while also keeping this track of acting because because like,

753
00:41:35,920 --> 00:41:41,120
Speaker 1: because she books and she's doing she's doing things. So

754
00:41:41,160 --> 00:41:44,399
Speaker 1: I was an intern at UCB at night, and I

755
00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160
Speaker 1: was like I lived up the street from uc B

756
00:41:47,320 --> 00:41:50,840
Speaker 1: Franklin and worked across the street at Tailwashers. So I

757
00:41:50,880 --> 00:41:53,520
Speaker 1: never left that little corner and I was just immersed

758
00:41:53,600 --> 00:41:59,080
Speaker 1: in dog grooming and improv for so many years. That's

759
00:41:59,120 --> 00:42:02,960
Speaker 1: literally where I lived, not the not the Scientology Center. Now,

760
00:42:03,000 --> 00:42:06,680
Speaker 1: I lived behind Gelson's on Bronson. Oh, so you know

761
00:42:06,760 --> 00:42:15,280
Speaker 1: that's literally my neighborhood. My my neighbor is the Celebrity Center. Yeah,

762
00:42:15,320 --> 00:42:19,520
Speaker 1: I know exactly where you live because I have your address.

763
00:42:19,760 --> 00:42:22,880
Speaker 1: Um but yeah, but so then you are you're like competing,

764
00:42:22,960 --> 00:42:24,600
Speaker 1: and when does it get to the point where you

765
00:42:24,680 --> 00:42:27,920
Speaker 1: become like really really good, like like and when did

766
00:42:27,960 --> 00:42:31,040
Speaker 1: you realize like, oh, this is like I'm not competitive,

767
00:42:31,120 --> 00:42:33,560
Speaker 1: I'm like, I'm like one of the one of the ones.

768
00:42:34,239 --> 00:42:39,440
Speaker 1: I think I started realizing that when I was Um,

769
00:42:39,600 --> 00:42:41,560
Speaker 1: so I got fired from my job because I kept

770
00:42:41,600 --> 00:42:46,080
Speaker 1: having to leave for auditions, and honestly, I don't think

771
00:42:46,200 --> 00:42:50,600
Speaker 1: I'm a good employee to have. I'm very entrepreneurial, and like,

772
00:42:50,760 --> 00:42:54,759
Speaker 1: I think my boss was right for firing me, because, um,

773
00:42:54,800 --> 00:42:56,000
Speaker 1: I just had to leave all the time for these

774
00:42:56,080 --> 00:42:58,160
Speaker 1: dumb commercial auditions that you'd have to go to Santa

775
00:42:58,200 --> 00:43:00,480
Speaker 1: Monica like at the drop of a hat. And so

776
00:43:00,640 --> 00:43:04,400
Speaker 1: I started working. I converted my garage into a grooming studio,

777
00:43:05,080 --> 00:43:07,680
Speaker 1: and it was that time when I was able to

778
00:43:08,160 --> 00:43:10,680
Speaker 1: I wasn't very busy. People didn't know what. I just

779
00:43:10,719 --> 00:43:12,719
Speaker 1: wanted to groom my friend's dog, so I didn't have

780
00:43:12,760 --> 00:43:15,520
Speaker 1: a ton of clients. So I just really took my

781
00:43:15,640 --> 00:43:18,080
Speaker 1: time and would take like I would just do one

782
00:43:18,120 --> 00:43:21,920
Speaker 1: dog at a time and just really work on my

783
00:43:22,080 --> 00:43:26,320
Speaker 1: craft and getting really good um. And I entered myself

784
00:43:26,360 --> 00:43:30,520
Speaker 1: in grooming competitions and I placed in every competition. I

785
00:43:30,560 --> 00:43:36,680
Speaker 1: didn't win until last year, but I placed. And um,

786
00:43:37,000 --> 00:43:39,279
Speaker 1: I just I think when you make a decision to

787
00:43:39,400 --> 00:43:44,480
Speaker 1: do something, it's very powerful in anyone's life. So I

788
00:43:44,600 --> 00:43:48,680
Speaker 1: just decided, did any kind of endeavor, like mentally committing

789
00:43:48,680 --> 00:43:52,600
Speaker 1: yourself to something is kind of it sounds simplistic, it

790
00:43:52,600 --> 00:43:56,359
Speaker 1: sounds reductive, but it's like sometimes that is just very

791
00:43:56,640 --> 00:43:59,279
Speaker 1: very very powerful in the ways that you follow through

792
00:43:59,320 --> 00:44:02,160
Speaker 1: on that. That that's that's very cool. And so it

793
00:44:02,280 --> 00:44:06,040
Speaker 1: went from like you're grooming your friends dogs to you

794
00:44:06,120 --> 00:44:10,839
Speaker 1: now groom the dogs of Katie Perry. You know, like

795
00:44:12,239 --> 00:44:16,760
Speaker 1: I think Ellen Pompeio, like you are now a celebrity.

796
00:44:16,920 --> 00:44:20,840
Speaker 1: I love Ellen Pompeo. I mean we love ell. I

797
00:44:20,960 --> 00:44:23,920
Speaker 1: met her. She's a schmoop, she has she is the

798
00:44:23,960 --> 00:44:28,640
Speaker 1: biggest heart, she loves her dogs. She's the coolest. I mean,

799
00:44:28,920 --> 00:44:32,160
Speaker 1: you groom some cool. I mean, I can't believe you

800
00:44:32,200 --> 00:44:36,960
Speaker 1: have a relationship with the Nugget Perry. I know Nuggie,

801
00:44:37,400 --> 00:44:44,400
Speaker 1: little baby Nugget has a sister. Oh, yes, a human sister.

802
00:44:45,200 --> 00:44:52,080
Speaker 1: Now has a human sister, Daisy. Yes, Daisy Dugo. What's

803
00:44:52,120 --> 00:44:55,440
Speaker 1: the hardest breed of dog? Is it a poodle? I

804
00:44:55,440 --> 00:44:58,279
Speaker 1: would imagine No, I love poodles. For me, I think

805
00:44:58,320 --> 00:45:01,080
Speaker 1: it depends on the groomer. For me, the hardest dog

806
00:45:01,200 --> 00:45:06,960
Speaker 1: is a soft coded wheat and terrier. Give me, well,

807
00:45:07,000 --> 00:45:10,479
Speaker 1: you would be. This is another Your hairs are long,

808
00:45:10,800 --> 00:45:13,680
Speaker 1: but they're beautiful dog. This is another really cool thing

809
00:45:13,719 --> 00:45:16,560
Speaker 1: about the show too, is like I love dogs, but

810
00:45:16,640 --> 00:45:18,560
Speaker 1: I didn't know all the breeds. This show has all

811
00:45:18,600 --> 00:45:22,439
Speaker 1: different kinds of breeds, and every episode it's like they're

812
00:45:22,440 --> 00:45:24,719
Speaker 1: all getting they'll get a sign like a different kind

813
00:45:24,760 --> 00:45:26,839
Speaker 1: of small dog. They off to do the same thing

814
00:45:26,880 --> 00:45:28,840
Speaker 1: too in the mini challenge, and then in the main

815
00:45:29,000 --> 00:45:33,759
Speaker 1: challenge m any they basically get any dog that they

816
00:45:33,840 --> 00:45:37,280
Speaker 1: want to do a creative transformation with based on the theme.

817
00:45:37,640 --> 00:45:40,480
Speaker 1: So there's themes like old Hollywood glamour, there's themes like

818
00:45:41,560 --> 00:45:49,080
Speaker 1: disco Inferno, there's Western pop pop star. It's probably one

819
00:45:49,080 --> 00:45:53,080
Speaker 1: of my favorite episodes. It's amazing. I cannot wait for

820
00:45:53,080 --> 00:45:55,600
Speaker 1: people to see it. And so what I want everyone

821
00:45:55,640 --> 00:45:58,319
Speaker 1: to know is that the show. The aesthetic of the

822
00:45:58,320 --> 00:46:01,279
Speaker 1: show is very much based on Jestice aesthetic, which is

823
00:46:01,320 --> 00:46:04,640
Speaker 1: like how would you describe it? I would say kitchy

824
00:46:04,880 --> 00:46:13,520
Speaker 1: seventies glam with a little wink and humor. Yeahs, I mean,

825
00:46:13,680 --> 00:46:17,320
Speaker 1: I just love her. But you know, it's just I

826
00:46:16,000 --> 00:46:21,880
Speaker 1: was like, this is very wood paneled, retro like life,

827
00:46:22,400 --> 00:46:26,080
Speaker 1: and the wood paneling was just it just happened. Like

828
00:46:26,239 --> 00:46:29,840
Speaker 1: the garage of the rented house I live in hadwood paneling,

829
00:46:29,880 --> 00:46:32,680
Speaker 1: and I would just I would go to a thrift

830
00:46:32,680 --> 00:46:34,640
Speaker 1: store or something and see a portrait of a dog

831
00:46:34,719 --> 00:46:37,759
Speaker 1: and get it. And it just never really was intentional,

832
00:46:37,920 --> 00:46:41,960
Speaker 1: but it just sort of organically appeared as my brand.

833
00:46:42,080 --> 00:46:44,200
Speaker 1: And then I just people were like, oh my god,

834
00:46:44,239 --> 00:46:47,000
Speaker 1: the wood paneling, like they started reacting to it, and

835
00:46:47,040 --> 00:46:50,120
Speaker 1: I was like, oh, this is my thing. But I've

836
00:46:50,160 --> 00:46:53,719
Speaker 1: always been really like a hippie into seventies and like

837
00:46:53,800 --> 00:46:56,359
Speaker 1: I've just always been like that anyway, because you're from

838
00:46:56,440 --> 00:46:58,440
Speaker 1: l A. So it's like seventies but in the l

839
00:46:58,480 --> 00:47:03,440
Speaker 1: A context where you have these Hollywood elements in it,

840
00:47:03,520 --> 00:47:07,080
Speaker 1: and like that is such a solid, you know story,

841
00:47:07,560 --> 00:47:10,000
Speaker 1: just aesthetically. I love that. Well. I can't wait for

842
00:47:10,080 --> 00:47:12,239
Speaker 1: you to see my new shop. I just moved out

843
00:47:12,239 --> 00:47:19,239
Speaker 1: of the garage a month. I would love to come.

844
00:47:19,440 --> 00:47:22,840
Speaker 1: I mean I just took the aesthetic and like ramped

845
00:47:22,840 --> 00:47:24,839
Speaker 1: it up and did it the way I want to

846
00:47:24,880 --> 00:47:29,120
Speaker 1: do it versus just the way it happened to happen. Um.

847
00:47:29,239 --> 00:47:31,480
Speaker 1: But yeah, I finally after six years, I'm out of

848
00:47:31,520 --> 00:47:36,960
Speaker 1: my garage. Wow. And the move from the garage to

849
00:47:37,120 --> 00:47:42,479
Speaker 1: the corner of Larchmont and Melrose is a massive one.

850
00:47:42,600 --> 00:47:45,000
Speaker 1: And it's I'm so excited for the store to open up,

851
00:47:45,120 --> 00:47:47,239
Speaker 1: or the shop to open up rather, but I mean,

852
00:47:47,280 --> 00:47:51,160
Speaker 1: it's open, is it open? Now? It's open? We did

853
00:47:51,160 --> 00:47:53,720
Speaker 1: a soft opening. Yeah, we've been open for a few weeks.

854
00:47:54,080 --> 00:47:57,279
Speaker 1: I never know what's open anymore in there. I'm so

855
00:47:58,440 --> 00:48:02,400
Speaker 1: can Oh, I'm gonna come. Um. But okay, so I

856
00:48:02,440 --> 00:48:05,319
Speaker 1: want to know, like because I do know this, But

857
00:48:05,560 --> 00:48:10,960
Speaker 1: how does it become a television show? Oh? Yeah? Well? Um, okay,

858
00:48:11,040 --> 00:48:15,480
Speaker 1: so people are fascinated with celebrity. I don't know. I

859
00:48:15,520 --> 00:48:19,600
Speaker 1: don't expect you guys to understand that, but I'm just kidding.

860
00:48:19,680 --> 00:48:24,320
Speaker 1: But like, so, I've been approached to do reality shows

861
00:48:24,360 --> 00:48:26,520
Speaker 1: for years and years and I always said, no, it's

862
00:48:26,600 --> 00:48:29,359
Speaker 1: just not what I want to do. And I met

863
00:48:29,520 --> 00:48:33,800
Speaker 1: Nicole and she has this beautiful red poodle named Doug,

864
00:48:34,320 --> 00:48:37,799
Speaker 1: And so I met Nicole's husband on set when I

865
00:48:37,840 --> 00:48:42,840
Speaker 1: was Katie Perry's Dog's Glam Squad. So, Nicole Nicole is

866
00:48:42,920 --> 00:48:45,840
Speaker 1: the producer of Hot Dog Nicole Yarn And she was

867
00:48:45,920 --> 00:48:48,680
Speaker 1: like a producer for the voice and and she created

868
00:48:48,800 --> 00:48:52,440
Speaker 1: making it with Amy Poehler nick Offerman. She's a force,

869
00:48:52,840 --> 00:48:58,320
Speaker 1: she's a visionary. Um. She is so brilliant, she's based.

870
00:48:58,400 --> 00:49:01,600
Speaker 1: I think she's a genius. Um. There's very few people

871
00:49:01,640 --> 00:49:06,000
Speaker 1: that I've ever met like her, but um. So. So

872
00:49:06,080 --> 00:49:08,279
Speaker 1: I met her husband on a on set at a

873
00:49:08,320 --> 00:49:11,160
Speaker 1: Katie Perry commercial thing where I was like Katie's Dog's

874
00:49:11,200 --> 00:49:13,359
Speaker 1: Glam squad and he's like, if I ever get a dog,

875
00:49:13,400 --> 00:49:15,680
Speaker 1: you have to groom it. Three weeks later, they got

876
00:49:15,680 --> 00:49:19,080
Speaker 1: a dog and they're like they called me. And so

877
00:49:19,120 --> 00:49:22,040
Speaker 1: I met Nicole through Rob, her husband, and she was like,

878
00:49:22,080 --> 00:49:26,279
Speaker 1: we're making a show, and I was she when we

879
00:49:26,320 --> 00:49:28,680
Speaker 1: talked about it, it was more of like a competition show.

880
00:49:28,760 --> 00:49:30,960
Speaker 1: It was less like a reality show of like cameras

881
00:49:30,960 --> 00:49:34,799
Speaker 1: following me and more like something elevated and cool and

882
00:49:35,040 --> 00:49:39,919
Speaker 1: intentional and and so um and so we just over

883
00:49:39,960 --> 00:49:42,960
Speaker 1: the years we developed the ideas and she would she

884
00:49:43,000 --> 00:49:45,040
Speaker 1: sat down with me and she's like, Okay, how do

885
00:49:45,080 --> 00:49:48,000
Speaker 1: you picture the set being draw it out? Like draw

886
00:49:48,160 --> 00:49:52,000
Speaker 1: the like where would the judge's table be? So like?

887
00:49:52,760 --> 00:49:55,879
Speaker 1: And she actually sold the show on her own. I mean,

888
00:49:55,920 --> 00:49:59,680
Speaker 1: she's so connected in this industry. She sold it just

889
00:50:00,000 --> 00:50:04,080
Speaker 1: off of the sizzle that we made. And I mean,

890
00:50:04,680 --> 00:50:06,200
Speaker 1: I mean that's I mean, that's what made me want

891
00:50:06,200 --> 00:50:07,520
Speaker 1: to do it. They sent me the sizzle and I

892
00:50:07,560 --> 00:50:10,720
Speaker 1: was like, this looks like the most functional ever. Wow.

893
00:50:11,680 --> 00:50:15,160
Speaker 1: And so she sizzles like she has a genius editor.

894
00:50:15,760 --> 00:50:20,440
Speaker 1: And I gave her like tons of like photos for

895
00:50:20,520 --> 00:50:22,960
Speaker 1: reference and the vibe and the tone, and I just

896
00:50:23,000 --> 00:50:27,120
Speaker 1: like put together collages of looks and and just visuals.

897
00:50:27,600 --> 00:50:31,279
Speaker 1: And she put together this amazing sizzle and sold it.

898
00:50:31,320 --> 00:50:34,120
Speaker 1: And she was like, you know, she just kept calling

899
00:50:34,120 --> 00:50:37,319
Speaker 1: me with good news. We sold it, I found out.

900
00:50:38,880 --> 00:50:41,280
Speaker 1: Then I found out we got picked up for twelve episodes.

901
00:50:41,680 --> 00:50:44,000
Speaker 1: Like she just kept calling me with good news, good news,

902
00:50:44,000 --> 00:50:45,840
Speaker 1: And I was crying. I just I was like, I

903
00:50:45,880 --> 00:50:49,080
Speaker 1: don't I'm not a big crier, but I'm crying because

904
00:50:49,320 --> 00:50:54,320
Speaker 1: my two worlds are colliding. Who knew the dog grooming

905
00:50:54,320 --> 00:50:59,120
Speaker 1: would lead me to the other stuff. Yeah, it's amazing.

906
00:50:59,160 --> 00:51:01,319
Speaker 1: It's awesome, and so Jess and I got to watch

907
00:51:01,360 --> 00:51:03,839
Speaker 1: the first episode today and it's so much fun. And

908
00:51:04,080 --> 00:51:07,360
Speaker 1: you know what really comes across is like me, Jess

909
00:51:07,480 --> 00:51:11,399
Speaker 1: and Robin thity, like we really do have so much fun.

910
00:51:11,440 --> 00:51:15,799
Speaker 1: We laugh so much and it's hot. I mean, this

911
00:51:15,840 --> 00:51:17,880
Speaker 1: is my first time doing this, but I've been told

912
00:51:17,920 --> 00:51:22,080
Speaker 1: like chemistry like ours is not normal, and it's it's

913
00:51:22,120 --> 00:51:24,600
Speaker 1: like the three of us just got along. Also, like

914
00:51:24,719 --> 00:51:28,439
Speaker 1: we all have mutual friends. Yeah. Yeah, I knew Robin

915
00:51:28,520 --> 00:51:31,160
Speaker 1: because Robin came and did Game Show and it was

916
00:51:31,200 --> 00:51:33,200
Speaker 1: so much fun and such a probe and we shared

917
00:51:33,320 --> 00:51:35,080
Speaker 1: like we were working on the same floor when she

918
00:51:35,120 --> 00:51:36,719
Speaker 1: was writing a Black Lady Sketch show and I was

919
00:51:36,760 --> 00:51:39,920
Speaker 1: working on Game Show and so um we knew each

920
00:51:39,920 --> 00:51:42,880
Speaker 1: other from that. But it's so funny because the producers

921
00:51:42,880 --> 00:51:44,960
Speaker 1: were like, and of course you and Jess and Robin

922
00:51:45,040 --> 00:51:47,640
Speaker 1: will have amazing chemistry and that will happen, and I

923
00:51:47,719 --> 00:51:50,640
Speaker 1: was just like, you are assuming that, but you can tell,

924
00:51:50,680 --> 00:51:53,600
Speaker 1: like people behind the scenes are like they're trying to

925
00:51:53,719 --> 00:51:56,000
Speaker 1: establish this thing of like and of course the chemistry

926
00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:58,080
Speaker 1: will be amazing, but you can tell that's what they're

927
00:51:58,080 --> 00:52:00,600
Speaker 1: nervous about and like, so we didn't we weren't able

928
00:52:00,640 --> 00:52:03,640
Speaker 1: to meet in person beforehand. Um, and then we just

929
00:52:03,680 --> 00:52:06,520
Speaker 1: literally arrived on set and luckily, like the three of

930
00:52:06,600 --> 00:52:09,640
Speaker 1: us started talking and didn't stop. It really was just

931
00:52:09,760 --> 00:52:13,640
Speaker 1: so fun. And Robin is she's I love her so much.

932
00:52:13,760 --> 00:52:16,760
Speaker 1: I feel so honored that she's in my life now.

933
00:52:16,920 --> 00:52:19,640
Speaker 1: I feel like she has the biggest heart. She's such

934
00:52:19,680 --> 00:52:23,120
Speaker 1: a good person. She's just one of those loyal kind

935
00:52:23,120 --> 00:52:25,359
Speaker 1: of ride or die type of people that would just

936
00:52:25,400 --> 00:52:28,360
Speaker 1: like have your back and be there for you. She's

937
00:52:28,400 --> 00:52:31,760
Speaker 1: just I just feel really lucky. I think we're really lucky.

938
00:52:32,160 --> 00:52:34,640
Speaker 1: We got lucky because none of us are like assholes.

939
00:52:35,320 --> 00:52:38,000
Speaker 1: I just think we got really lucky because it kind

940
00:52:38,000 --> 00:52:41,279
Speaker 1: of gone the other way for sure. I mean yeah,

941
00:52:41,360 --> 00:52:44,040
Speaker 1: And also it's it's just like, um, I mean, Robin

942
00:52:44,120 --> 00:52:47,840
Speaker 1: talked about a hustler, like she really works her fucking

943
00:52:47,960 --> 00:52:51,920
Speaker 1: ass off, and she's so graceful. I'm a mess when

944
00:52:51,960 --> 00:52:55,120
Speaker 1: I'm when I'm like my cup is full, I'm overwhelmed.

945
00:52:55,840 --> 00:53:00,359
Speaker 1: She was doing so much during the shoot. And yeah,

946
00:53:00,520 --> 00:53:03,279
Speaker 1: I mean I just really admire her and look up

947
00:53:03,320 --> 00:53:05,839
Speaker 1: to her. She's the best. We'll talk about, um, what

948
00:53:05,880 --> 00:53:08,080
Speaker 1: it was like to shoot, because I feel like you

949
00:53:08,120 --> 00:53:12,680
Speaker 1: guys were one of the like first shows to shoot

950
00:53:12,719 --> 00:53:16,080
Speaker 1: in l A at least um like during COVID but

951
00:53:16,120 --> 00:53:17,640
Speaker 1: like you you guys sort of reported this in the

952
00:53:17,640 --> 00:53:20,759
Speaker 1: press release. No COVID cases at all during the entire

953
00:53:20,760 --> 00:53:23,080
Speaker 1: course of filming. They were so on top of their

954
00:53:23,120 --> 00:53:26,240
Speaker 1: testing regimen for you guys, Um, what was what was that? Like?

955
00:53:26,400 --> 00:53:28,680
Speaker 1: It was trippy, it was weird. So we we were

956
00:53:28,960 --> 00:53:31,800
Speaker 1: we basically were like it was like me justin Robin

957
00:53:31,960 --> 00:53:34,400
Speaker 1: had like the backstage area and we were kind of

958
00:53:34,440 --> 00:53:37,799
Speaker 1: just like all together the whole time. And then you know,

959
00:53:37,880 --> 00:53:41,719
Speaker 1: it's weird, like hair makeup was basically on like hazmat suits,

960
00:53:41,760 --> 00:53:44,879
Speaker 1: like putting putting our makeup on everything. But I will

961
00:53:44,920 --> 00:53:50,520
Speaker 1: say this, and this is something that um, I want

962
00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:54,160
Speaker 1: to tell everyone that's you know, nervous about getting back

963
00:53:54,200 --> 00:53:57,239
Speaker 1: to work and stuff like that. My takeaway from it

964
00:53:57,320 --> 00:53:59,880
Speaker 1: was it really I always think like whenever I'm on

965
00:54:00,040 --> 00:54:02,640
Speaker 1: set and there's a good vibe, it does become like

966
00:54:02,680 --> 00:54:04,960
Speaker 1: a little family. Like I know, our set was like

967
00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:07,160
Speaker 1: a family. Is a kind of cliche, I think to say.

968
00:54:07,239 --> 00:54:10,759
Speaker 1: But one thing that I took from the experience was

969
00:54:11,160 --> 00:54:13,359
Speaker 1: not only was everyone just so excited to be back

970
00:54:13,360 --> 00:54:15,560
Speaker 1: at work and working and working on this show because

971
00:54:15,560 --> 00:54:19,120
Speaker 1: it really is so positive and it's so it's so

972
00:54:19,239 --> 00:54:22,480
Speaker 1: nice to see like the this profession get its shine

973
00:54:22,880 --> 00:54:25,839
Speaker 1: finally because it never has. But also everyone working on

974
00:54:25,880 --> 00:54:29,319
Speaker 1: set was really taking care of each other, and it

975
00:54:29,400 --> 00:54:32,160
Speaker 1: was like really like top of mind for everyone in

976
00:54:32,239 --> 00:54:34,880
Speaker 1: coming to work every day, Like everyone was really taking

977
00:54:34,920 --> 00:54:38,200
Speaker 1: the quarantining seriously. Everyone was really checking in with each

978
00:54:38,239 --> 00:54:40,439
Speaker 1: other in terms of their physical space and everything. So

979
00:54:40,880 --> 00:54:44,919
Speaker 1: it actually like wasn't even better experience than a good

980
00:54:44,920 --> 00:54:48,919
Speaker 1: experience is because you came into it with love and

981
00:54:49,000 --> 00:54:51,759
Speaker 1: care and also came away from it after we had

982
00:54:51,760 --> 00:54:53,960
Speaker 1: completed it and we had said, wow, we did that.

983
00:54:54,040 --> 00:54:57,520
Speaker 1: Because I'll say this, like, I don't think I've heard

984
00:54:57,520 --> 00:55:01,880
Speaker 1: of one other production that has not had one at

985
00:55:01,960 --> 00:55:04,960
Speaker 1: least one positive case that's shooting right now. We were

986
00:55:05,080 --> 00:55:09,920
Speaker 1: really lucky that um that happened to their other place.

987
00:55:10,000 --> 00:55:13,680
Speaker 1: There are other productions where someone tests positive and they

988
00:55:13,680 --> 00:55:16,120
Speaker 1: have to they have to like pause or shut down

989
00:55:16,200 --> 00:55:19,520
Speaker 1: or that person can't work, you know, like and you

990
00:55:19,560 --> 00:55:23,840
Speaker 1: know it's it's tough because no one knows for sure

991
00:55:23,880 --> 00:55:27,000
Speaker 1: how you get or don't get this. So people are

992
00:55:27,000 --> 00:55:28,680
Speaker 1: really trying the hardest, and you know, the tests aren't

993
00:55:28,680 --> 00:55:32,960
Speaker 1: always accurate, but we were tested every single day, um,

994
00:55:33,520 --> 00:55:36,359
Speaker 1: and you know, and also like we weren't allowed to

995
00:55:36,400 --> 00:55:40,120
Speaker 1: eat with everyone. We weren't allowed to even in the morning.

996
00:55:40,280 --> 00:55:43,399
Speaker 1: I would really want to just get my coffee, but

997
00:55:45,080 --> 00:55:48,440
Speaker 1: someone was like, hey, can I get you something? But

998
00:55:48,480 --> 00:55:50,000
Speaker 1: why don't you go inside and I'll bring it to you.

999
00:55:50,040 --> 00:55:53,160
Speaker 1: And I'm just like, I mean, it sounds great to

1000
00:55:53,200 --> 00:55:55,520
Speaker 1: be weighted on, but honestly, I just want to get

1001
00:55:55,520 --> 00:55:57,759
Speaker 1: my coffee, you know, like it was. It's just very

1002
00:55:57,840 --> 00:56:02,600
Speaker 1: weird to like not be independent, right, right, but you know,

1003
00:56:02,840 --> 00:56:05,680
Speaker 1: we we did it. And and Matt's kind of saying that,

1004
00:56:05,719 --> 00:56:09,080
Speaker 1: like the consideration was built into this process being so

1005
00:56:10,480 --> 00:56:14,680
Speaker 1: you know, precautionary and everyone really had to look out

1006
00:56:14,719 --> 00:56:17,720
Speaker 1: for each other on this collective level where you're you're

1007
00:56:17,880 --> 00:56:21,240
Speaker 1: you really are thinking about every single person in that environment,

1008
00:56:21,400 --> 00:56:24,600
Speaker 1: which I mean, it's it's crazy that that wasn't that

1009
00:56:24,840 --> 00:56:29,080
Speaker 1: sort of wasn't the firm case before and then before

1010
00:56:29,160 --> 00:56:32,160
Speaker 1: times where like you wouldn't you wouldn't come into these

1011
00:56:32,200 --> 00:56:35,799
Speaker 1: situations necessarily being like well that we're a unit. We

1012
00:56:35,840 --> 00:56:37,719
Speaker 1: all have we all have to work together to make

1013
00:56:37,719 --> 00:56:41,360
Speaker 1: sure we can work towards this common goal. UM. To

1014
00:56:41,480 --> 00:56:44,120
Speaker 1: have like you know, this, this, these these protocols in

1015
00:56:44,160 --> 00:56:47,040
Speaker 1: place which are unfortunate and whatever and bizarre, but like

1016
00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,880
Speaker 1: to have them kind of like established this tone of well,

1017
00:56:51,960 --> 00:56:54,959
Speaker 1: we're all working towards the same thing is is pretty cool.

1018
00:56:55,239 --> 00:56:58,680
Speaker 1: But how are you feeling about going back? Oh, so

1019
00:56:58,760 --> 00:57:02,440
Speaker 1: many ways. We don't talk about them. Probably I'm probably

1020
00:57:02,440 --> 00:57:05,719
Speaker 1: not allowed to. Okay, yeah, probably probably gotta keep a

1021
00:57:05,719 --> 00:57:08,200
Speaker 1: lid on it. But little on. But let's take a

1022
00:57:08,239 --> 00:57:11,280
Speaker 1: quick break and then we have to ask Jess the question. Okay,

1023
00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:20,600
Speaker 1: so we'll be right back with Jess room and we're

1024
00:57:20,640 --> 00:57:23,720
Speaker 1: back Matt. You asked the question. Here's the thing. Jess

1025
00:57:23,720 --> 00:57:26,000
Speaker 1: actually texted me yesterday and she was like, I'm nervous

1026
00:57:26,000 --> 00:57:28,280
Speaker 1: about this part of it. And I was like why

1027
00:57:28,360 --> 00:57:30,240
Speaker 1: and she was like, because there's so many different things

1028
00:57:30,280 --> 00:57:31,640
Speaker 1: I could say and I don't know what to say.

1029
00:57:31,680 --> 00:57:33,000
Speaker 1: And I was like, well, you have to choose the

1030
00:57:33,120 --> 00:57:37,640
Speaker 1: thing that UM in choosing your moment of culture, that

1031
00:57:37,760 --> 00:57:39,960
Speaker 1: was the moment that made you say culture was for you.

1032
00:57:40,280 --> 00:57:43,760
Speaker 1: It's that thing that's that intangible thing. It happened and

1033
00:57:43,800 --> 00:57:46,240
Speaker 1: all of a sudden your life took on a new

1034
00:57:46,280 --> 00:57:47,800
Speaker 1: course and you didn't know why. And she was like, Okay,

1035
00:57:47,840 --> 00:57:49,720
Speaker 1: I'm still confused. I still think about it. And I

1036
00:57:49,760 --> 00:57:51,960
Speaker 1: was like, that's part of the course. So I am

1037
00:57:52,000 --> 00:57:54,360
Speaker 1: now going to turn to Jess and say, what have

1038
00:57:54,560 --> 00:57:57,480
Speaker 1: you decided on? What was your cult moment of culture

1039
00:57:57,520 --> 00:57:59,560
Speaker 1: that made you say culture was for me? Jess Rhona,

1040
00:58:00,160 --> 00:58:05,000
Speaker 1: it can be multiple things too, if you're torn between stuff, Okay, um, okay,

1041
00:58:05,040 --> 00:58:07,440
Speaker 1: so these this is the These are the three things

1042
00:58:07,480 --> 00:58:12,600
Speaker 1: that I thought of. Maybe you guys can can weigh in. So.

1043
00:58:13,000 --> 00:58:15,760
Speaker 1: I grew up in l A in the nineties and

1044
00:58:15,800 --> 00:58:21,120
Speaker 1: I was very into ska music, um Gwen Stefani when

1045
00:58:21,160 --> 00:58:25,120
Speaker 1: she was when she was singing songs with Sublime like

1046
00:58:25,200 --> 00:58:30,600
Speaker 1: that o c back in the um. Then I became

1047
00:58:31,400 --> 00:58:37,720
Speaker 1: a raver and electronic music was really influencing me. You.

1048
00:58:39,240 --> 00:58:43,320
Speaker 1: I was a molly doer very I mean this was

1049
00:58:43,800 --> 00:58:49,040
Speaker 1: twenty years ago. I was doing molly and raving like

1050
00:58:49,120 --> 00:58:53,360
Speaker 1: a candy raver. When I was there were kids that

1051
00:58:53,480 --> 00:58:56,240
Speaker 1: there were kids at school, like seventeen years old. He

1052
00:58:56,320 --> 00:58:58,640
Speaker 1: would go to raves sixteen and like and like and

1053
00:58:58,760 --> 00:59:02,000
Speaker 1: like fucking role yeah, and I was like, those kids

1054
00:59:02,000 --> 00:59:07,160
Speaker 1: are crazy and now it's like my favorite. What's a candy?

1055
00:59:07,280 --> 00:59:11,920
Speaker 1: I love? I love dating myself candy is Is it

1056
00:59:12,000 --> 00:59:15,960
Speaker 1: like flipping? Are you like changing drugs? Candy flipping is

1057
00:59:16,000 --> 00:59:18,320
Speaker 1: a thing um back in the day when you would

1058
00:59:18,320 --> 00:59:20,720
Speaker 1: do when you were candy flipping, it is my understanding

1059
00:59:20,720 --> 00:59:23,000
Speaker 1: that you were just doing acid and molly acid and

1060
00:59:24,240 --> 00:59:27,520
Speaker 1: you're like we just called the e. Back in the day,

1061
00:59:27,560 --> 00:59:30,840
Speaker 1: it wasn't like I remember when it was yeah, well

1062
00:59:30,920 --> 00:59:33,200
Speaker 1: like the good ship is molly and now it's like

1063
00:59:33,320 --> 00:59:35,800
Speaker 1: you know, prime and powder and it's like a clean

1064
00:59:35,920 --> 00:59:37,720
Speaker 1: high and like that's the end of it. But back

1065
00:59:37,760 --> 00:59:39,720
Speaker 1: then it was like cut with speed and you were

1066
00:59:39,800 --> 00:59:43,840
Speaker 1: up till six am like a lunatic. Not like I'm

1067
00:59:43,880 --> 00:59:46,520
Speaker 1: a drug addict or anything. I don't do it anymore

1068
00:59:46,600 --> 00:59:50,760
Speaker 1: at all. Um, okay, so Scott into Raver and then

1069
00:59:50,800 --> 00:59:52,360
Speaker 1: and then and then what I will complete the story?

1070
00:59:52,880 --> 00:59:55,480
Speaker 1: Oh just and then like I touched on it before,

1071
00:59:55,520 --> 00:59:57,440
Speaker 1: but like and I told Matt, I'm going to be

1072
00:59:57,560 --> 01:00:04,760
Speaker 1: such a nerd. But improv really changed my whole life

1073
01:00:07,080 --> 01:00:10,680
Speaker 1: because Bo and Yang also did improv as a youngster. Really. Yes,

1074
01:00:11,240 --> 01:00:13,120
Speaker 1: Well I was a late bloomer. I wish I did

1075
01:00:13,120 --> 01:00:15,240
Speaker 1: it when I was younger. I didn't start until I

1076
01:00:15,280 --> 01:00:18,200
Speaker 1: was in my late twenties. But I was really into

1077
01:00:18,240 --> 01:00:22,240
Speaker 1: it like a crazy person, like from the line at

1078
01:00:22,320 --> 01:00:24,400
Speaker 1: u c B and every time we were all there

1079
01:00:24,520 --> 01:00:27,960
Speaker 1: were all there improv boot camp, like I was like

1080
01:00:28,160 --> 01:00:31,720
Speaker 1: it was a lot. I still think we have not

1081
01:00:31,920 --> 01:00:36,720
Speaker 1: as a community of improvisers or x improvisers x u

1082
01:00:36,800 --> 01:00:39,760
Speaker 1: c B ors whatever. We let's just let's just keep

1083
01:00:39,760 --> 01:00:42,240
Speaker 1: it to UCB, okay, because that's that's like like that's

1084
01:00:42,240 --> 01:00:45,640
Speaker 1: where our circles overlap. What was it about UCB and

1085
01:00:45,680 --> 01:00:50,680
Speaker 1: that culture that made it so like we were all acolytes.

1086
01:00:50,760 --> 01:00:52,400
Speaker 1: We were all like, oh my god, we have to

1087
01:00:52,440 --> 01:00:54,640
Speaker 1: stay up for all of DC and like, what was

1088
01:00:54,640 --> 01:00:59,600
Speaker 1: it about? God? There's something I mean, I I don't

1089
01:00:59,600 --> 01:01:02,080
Speaker 1: want to like kind of like cheaply like compared to

1090
01:01:02,080 --> 01:01:04,760
Speaker 1: a cult, but there was something like that just demanded

1091
01:01:04,800 --> 01:01:07,920
Speaker 1: your devotion to it and dedication to it. And I'm

1092
01:01:07,960 --> 01:01:09,800
Speaker 1: trying to figure out like what that what like what

1093
01:01:09,880 --> 01:01:12,880
Speaker 1: was the promise and what do you guys? And I

1094
01:01:12,880 --> 01:01:15,520
Speaker 1: want to know what you guys think. I think that

1095
01:01:15,920 --> 01:01:19,840
Speaker 1: for me when I was in high school, the cool

1096
01:01:19,920 --> 01:01:23,200
Speaker 1: kids were always like that was not really attainable for

1097
01:01:23,360 --> 01:01:25,560
Speaker 1: me because it was just like you had to be

1098
01:01:25,600 --> 01:01:30,000
Speaker 1: like straight in a certain way to look and um,

1099
01:01:30,040 --> 01:01:33,920
Speaker 1: the way that popularity was gauged just never really connected

1100
01:01:33,960 --> 01:01:38,120
Speaker 1: with me. But I always wanted um to be recognized

1101
01:01:38,120 --> 01:01:41,400
Speaker 1: for being good at something, and I feel like I

1102
01:01:41,440 --> 01:01:43,720
Speaker 1: always had a good sense of humor. And then when

1103
01:01:43,720 --> 01:01:46,400
Speaker 1: I saw when I went to college, and like I

1104
01:01:46,440 --> 01:01:49,200
Speaker 1: saw the sketching improphecy, and then the UCB seems like

1105
01:01:49,440 --> 01:01:51,240
Speaker 1: the macro of that. In New York, it was like

1106
01:01:51,400 --> 01:01:53,960
Speaker 1: everything like if you were pursuing comedy in New York,

1107
01:01:53,960 --> 01:01:56,080
Speaker 1: everyone was like, well, what when's your next UCB class?

1108
01:01:56,080 --> 01:01:57,880
Speaker 1: That was just what it is. I think that u

1109
01:01:57,960 --> 01:02:01,040
Speaker 1: c B, at least in the way I saw things

1110
01:02:01,120 --> 01:02:06,280
Speaker 1: at the time, seemed to celebrate people for being smart

1111
01:02:06,440 --> 01:02:10,920
Speaker 1: and funny, whereas popularity for me was always based on

1112
01:02:10,960 --> 01:02:13,720
Speaker 1: like looking a certain way or whatever and doing certain

1113
01:02:13,760 --> 01:02:17,240
Speaker 1: things or lifestyle things. Whereas this was like, oh, these

1114
01:02:17,280 --> 01:02:19,560
Speaker 1: people who rise to the top are the quote unquote

1115
01:02:19,600 --> 01:02:22,840
Speaker 1: smartest and funniest. Now looking back, I know that's not true.

1116
01:02:22,960 --> 01:02:25,480
Speaker 1: It's like kind of like exclusive to certain people. And

1117
01:02:25,520 --> 01:02:29,000
Speaker 1: I can see the exclusivities of uc B now in retrospect,

1118
01:02:29,200 --> 01:02:31,600
Speaker 1: but at the time, I was like God to be

1119
01:02:31,680 --> 01:02:35,000
Speaker 1: able to go up there say the smartest, funniest thing

1120
01:02:35,160 --> 01:02:38,000
Speaker 1: and then become like a star in this arena. And

1121
01:02:38,040 --> 01:02:41,320
Speaker 1: I was always someone that wanted to act and perform,

1122
01:02:41,480 --> 01:02:45,040
Speaker 1: but I didn't take acting classes or anything. And I thought,

1123
01:02:45,120 --> 01:02:46,520
Speaker 1: this is a fun way to get into it. But

1124
01:02:46,560 --> 01:02:49,960
Speaker 1: I don't know what you guys think. Yeah, I'm the opposite.

1125
01:02:50,080 --> 01:02:51,960
Speaker 1: I mean, not the opposite of that, but I'm the

1126
01:02:51,960 --> 01:02:55,640
Speaker 1: opposite of Like I started off taking acting classes in

1127
01:02:55,800 --> 01:02:59,240
Speaker 1: l A and like having breakthrough in my classes and

1128
01:02:59,320 --> 01:03:03,480
Speaker 1: just scene study classes and taking it so seriously and

1129
01:03:03,480 --> 01:03:07,640
Speaker 1: doing all this dramatic acting. And I went to school

1130
01:03:07,640 --> 01:03:10,000
Speaker 1: called Playhouse West and I went all the way through

1131
01:03:10,000 --> 01:03:12,280
Speaker 1: the advanced program and I was just so into it.

1132
01:03:12,280 --> 01:03:14,840
Speaker 1: But I was never good at homework and I was

1133
01:03:14,920 --> 01:03:17,360
Speaker 1: never good at like preparing, and like, finally I was

1134
01:03:17,440 --> 01:03:21,800
Speaker 1: like improv. I don't have to break down a scene.

1135
01:03:22,320 --> 01:03:25,880
Speaker 1: I could just show up and play and um. And

1136
01:03:25,920 --> 01:03:29,160
Speaker 1: when I first found improv, I was like, holy sh it,

1137
01:03:29,640 --> 01:03:32,200
Speaker 1: this is where I belong, this is what I want.

1138
01:03:32,480 --> 01:03:34,840
Speaker 1: These are my people. But I think you're totally right.

1139
01:03:34,920 --> 01:03:39,520
Speaker 1: It's like it's magical when it's done well. It's like

1140
01:03:39,800 --> 01:03:42,880
Speaker 1: unlike anything you've seen when it's done well. And I

1141
01:03:42,880 --> 01:03:47,240
Speaker 1: started UCB in New York and when it's when you

1142
01:03:47,360 --> 01:03:51,160
Speaker 1: see a magical thing like that performed in front of you,

1143
01:03:52,000 --> 01:03:55,040
Speaker 1: and you're just like, I want to do that so bad.

1144
01:03:55,080 --> 01:03:57,560
Speaker 1: I want to be that. I want to be that good.

1145
01:03:57,600 --> 01:04:00,400
Speaker 1: I want to be that smart and funny and quick

1146
01:04:00,480 --> 01:04:03,240
Speaker 1: and all of it. And it's like a drug. And

1147
01:04:03,520 --> 01:04:07,880
Speaker 1: it's also you know, I think improv um attracts a

1148
01:04:07,880 --> 01:04:11,640
Speaker 1: certain kind of person. You know, we might be the

1149
01:04:11,720 --> 01:04:15,640
Speaker 1: underdogs in our real life in some way. And if

1150
01:04:15,760 --> 01:04:20,000
Speaker 1: you can succeed at this thing, then you're finally valid

1151
01:04:20,120 --> 01:04:24,920
Speaker 1: like validated, you're finally funny, you're finally good, and you

1152
01:04:25,000 --> 01:04:27,640
Speaker 1: won't stop until you're good, and you won't be good

1153
01:04:27,720 --> 01:04:31,160
Speaker 1: until they say you're good, so you keep going. You're

1154
01:04:31,200 --> 01:04:35,440
Speaker 1: competitive every And it's also the culture. You know, everyone's

1155
01:04:35,520 --> 01:04:38,160
Speaker 1: just scrambling to get on a Herald team or a

1156
01:04:38,200 --> 01:04:42,840
Speaker 1: mod team and it's just you know, a frenzy. God.

1157
01:04:42,880 --> 01:04:46,640
Speaker 1: I don't miss it um, but I do. I mean,

1158
01:04:46,680 --> 01:04:51,120
Speaker 1: I miss performing improv, but I don't miss feeling like

1159
01:04:51,520 --> 01:04:55,560
Speaker 1: shit so much. I just felt like I wasn't good,

1160
01:04:55,600 --> 01:04:59,200
Speaker 1: I wasn't funny, You're not talented unless you're on a

1161
01:04:59,240 --> 01:05:02,880
Speaker 1: Herald team. But that was the common valuation. That was

1162
01:05:02,920 --> 01:05:06,760
Speaker 1: the common evaluation, like that you would that everyone would

1163
01:05:06,800 --> 01:05:09,000
Speaker 1: sort of buy into, which was, Oh my god, that

1164
01:05:09,080 --> 01:05:11,040
Speaker 1: Lloyd team audition was so awful and they were just

1165
01:05:11,080 --> 01:05:12,640
Speaker 1: like they just didn't really laugh and it was just

1166
01:05:12,720 --> 01:05:15,880
Speaker 1: so awkward and uh and god my my, this indie,

1167
01:05:16,160 --> 01:05:18,800
Speaker 1: this indie team show is just it's like everyone was

1168
01:05:18,840 --> 01:05:22,560
Speaker 1: in this constant as at this constant frequency of like discomfort,

1169
01:05:22,840 --> 01:05:25,200
Speaker 1: which is one thing that I'm like that I I

1170
01:05:25,240 --> 01:05:27,400
Speaker 1: still don't think we've like fully like I think I

1171
01:05:27,400 --> 01:05:29,880
Speaker 1: think there's just time with more time has to pass

1172
01:05:29,960 --> 01:05:33,760
Speaker 1: before we like realize why we were really all just

1173
01:05:33,920 --> 01:05:38,640
Speaker 1: like so like uneasy because it's so interesting. Well because

1174
01:05:38,800 --> 01:05:41,240
Speaker 1: I put I put the weight of the world on it.

1175
01:05:41,600 --> 01:05:44,200
Speaker 1: If I got on a team, it means I got reps,

1176
01:05:44,440 --> 01:05:47,040
Speaker 1: I can book things, I could be a series regular

1177
01:05:47,080 --> 01:05:49,680
Speaker 1: on a TV show. That's how big it was to me.

1178
01:05:49,720 --> 01:05:51,520
Speaker 1: If I got on a Herald team, it means I

1179
01:05:51,560 --> 01:05:54,360
Speaker 1: will get on a TV show. That's and that's all

1180
01:05:54,400 --> 01:05:56,800
Speaker 1: I wanted. It was like my way out. It was

1181
01:05:56,840 --> 01:05:59,680
Speaker 1: like it's a clear path with like steps in front

1182
01:05:59,680 --> 01:06:02,240
Speaker 1: of you, where it's like here you go, just get

1183
01:06:02,280 --> 01:06:04,800
Speaker 1: to this door, and once you open the door, all

1184
01:06:04,840 --> 01:06:08,480
Speaker 1: of Hollywood is going to cast you and everything and

1185
01:06:08,520 --> 01:06:10,440
Speaker 1: you'll have reps and people will believe in you and

1186
01:06:10,440 --> 01:06:12,920
Speaker 1: you'll be the cool thing. But that was only that

1187
01:06:13,000 --> 01:06:15,040
Speaker 1: was only true for like maybe a year and a half.

1188
01:06:15,280 --> 01:06:19,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god, all these people. I mean, look, it's

1189
01:06:19,240 --> 01:06:21,959
Speaker 1: been so so many years since this happened for me,

1190
01:06:22,080 --> 01:06:24,360
Speaker 1: and I'm sure for most people it's just like you

1191
01:06:24,560 --> 01:06:27,520
Speaker 1: now that we're out of it, you know, It's just

1192
01:06:28,280 --> 01:06:31,640
Speaker 1: it was a little toxic, and it's sad because really

1193
01:06:31,640 --> 01:06:35,800
Speaker 1: talented people thought that they were bad. I thought that

1194
01:06:35,840 --> 01:06:40,600
Speaker 1: they were not funny talented. You know what, though, I'm

1195
01:06:40,640 --> 01:06:44,000
Speaker 1: sorry really quick, everybody like not like so many people

1196
01:06:44,400 --> 01:06:48,120
Speaker 1: have the same story. And now I'm thinking, oh, it

1197
01:06:48,200 --> 01:06:51,600
Speaker 1: wasn't just me that felt like this. Sorry, what are

1198
01:06:51,600 --> 01:06:53,320
Speaker 1: you going to say? No, I was just gonna say

1199
01:06:53,360 --> 01:06:58,320
Speaker 1: I'm realizing now specifically why I fell into the UCB thing.

1200
01:06:58,400 --> 01:07:00,640
Speaker 1: And I do think it's this. This is the case

1201
01:07:00,640 --> 01:07:02,840
Speaker 1: for a lot of people, and this is gonna sound

1202
01:07:03,080 --> 01:07:06,720
Speaker 1: insane for me to say here, but I remember being

1203
01:07:06,760 --> 01:07:10,760
Speaker 1: so depressed when I was eighteen years old that I

1204
01:07:10,840 --> 01:07:14,320
Speaker 1: like got back to my room in college. I was closeted,

1205
01:07:14,360 --> 01:07:16,360
Speaker 1: I was like crying. I just was like not it

1206
01:07:16,440 --> 01:07:19,800
Speaker 1: was not happening for me in college. And I wanted

1207
01:07:19,960 --> 01:07:24,560
Speaker 1: so desperately as like a um, you know kid who

1208
01:07:24,600 --> 01:07:27,000
Speaker 1: grew up on Long Island, Like, I wanted to succeed

1209
01:07:27,120 --> 01:07:30,320
Speaker 1: in the entertainment industry so badly, and I thought my

1210
01:07:30,440 --> 01:07:34,800
Speaker 1: skills aligned with Saturday Night Live. And so I remember

1211
01:07:34,840 --> 01:07:39,680
Speaker 1: I googled Amy Poehler in my lowest moment, and I

1212
01:07:39,720 --> 01:07:42,640
Speaker 1: saw everything she had done, and I was like, I'm

1213
01:07:42,640 --> 01:07:44,880
Speaker 1: gonna do exactly everything that she did to get to

1214
01:07:44,920 --> 01:07:48,960
Speaker 1: where she's at. And I got on my sketch team

1215
01:07:49,000 --> 01:07:51,439
Speaker 1: at college because she was on her improv team at

1216
01:07:51,520 --> 01:07:53,920
Speaker 1: at Boston College. And I saw that she had a

1217
01:07:53,960 --> 01:07:55,960
Speaker 1: thing called UCB and that's when I signed up for

1218
01:07:56,040 --> 01:08:00,080
Speaker 1: UCB classes because I thought, legitimately, I thought this is

1219
01:08:00,080 --> 01:08:02,920
Speaker 1: a pathway to get to Saturday Night Live. And I

1220
01:08:02,960 --> 01:08:04,960
Speaker 1: think that that's a lot of the way a lot

1221
01:08:05,000 --> 01:08:07,360
Speaker 1: of people think. And then once you get into the

1222
01:08:07,440 --> 01:08:11,000
Speaker 1: UCB community, there's different check marks that pop up because

1223
01:08:11,000 --> 01:08:14,280
Speaker 1: you're already headed toward a check mark. You know, when

1224
01:08:14,320 --> 01:08:17,559
Speaker 1: you're in your classes, everyone wants the same thing and

1225
01:08:17,600 --> 01:08:21,240
Speaker 1: we're all just trying to get on that house team,

1226
01:08:21,280 --> 01:08:24,599
Speaker 1: and so like you become competitive with people and it's

1227
01:08:24,640 --> 01:08:26,880
Speaker 1: like we started at the same time and now they're

1228
01:08:26,880 --> 01:08:29,559
Speaker 1: on a team and I'm not, or like, there's just

1229
01:08:29,600 --> 01:08:32,200
Speaker 1: like a lot, you know, and so I'm it was

1230
01:08:32,280 --> 01:08:36,760
Speaker 1: just yeah, it was I think it was that consistent discomfort,

1231
01:08:37,360 --> 01:08:40,320
Speaker 1: but it's like, why are we doing to reach to ourselves? Well,

1232
01:08:40,320 --> 01:08:42,280
Speaker 1: it's also kind of there's something fun about it though,

1233
01:08:43,840 --> 01:08:49,880
Speaker 1: And yeah, I had we all we all and run

1234
01:08:49,880 --> 01:08:53,960
Speaker 1: into each other and die, Oh my god, I would

1235
01:08:55,200 --> 01:08:58,000
Speaker 1: I would love god. I never experienced like an all

1236
01:08:58,160 --> 01:09:02,280
Speaker 1: team at it where everyone's well that I have like

1237
01:09:02,320 --> 01:09:05,360
Speaker 1: a DCM bit where it's just ending the whole time.

1238
01:09:05,400 --> 01:09:07,720
Speaker 1: It sounds like a show. But but there was a

1239
01:09:07,840 --> 01:09:12,040
Speaker 1: time I used to see sets that like ended Sometimes

1240
01:09:12,080 --> 01:09:14,760
Speaker 1: they just ended so perfectly that everyone would jump off

1241
01:09:14,800 --> 01:09:16,320
Speaker 1: the back line and I was like, oh, that has

1242
01:09:16,360 --> 01:09:19,040
Speaker 1: to feel so good. And I never like it's chasing

1243
01:09:19,080 --> 01:09:22,160
Speaker 1: that high. Yeah, I never. I never succeeded in improv

1244
01:09:22,240 --> 01:09:24,519
Speaker 1: I was more sketched. That was more my thing. But

1245
01:09:24,600 --> 01:09:27,280
Speaker 1: I remember like whenever the improv show would end and

1246
01:09:27,280 --> 01:09:29,840
Speaker 1: they'd all go backstage, I would always be like, I

1247
01:09:29,840 --> 01:09:32,560
Speaker 1: wonder what they're talking about. I wonder they're going to

1248
01:09:33,560 --> 01:09:36,840
Speaker 1: you know, because it's such a rare. It's a high

1249
01:09:37,000 --> 01:09:39,599
Speaker 1: when you have a great show and when you fucking

1250
01:09:39,640 --> 01:09:42,320
Speaker 1: crush it. You know you're crushing it, you just know it.

1251
01:09:42,320 --> 01:09:45,680
Speaker 1: It's everything's working and you just it's a high and

1252
01:09:45,720 --> 01:09:48,160
Speaker 1: there's just nothing like it. And I think that's another

1253
01:09:48,240 --> 01:09:52,440
Speaker 1: thing that kept people there, is chasing that high of

1254
01:09:52,439 --> 01:09:55,160
Speaker 1: of doing well and you just never knew if the

1255
01:09:55,160 --> 01:09:58,640
Speaker 1: stars were aligned that night. Sure, but perhaps one of

1256
01:09:58,680 --> 01:10:01,360
Speaker 1: those things where it just slipped. It's it's disposable whatever,

1257
01:10:01,360 --> 01:10:04,240
Speaker 1: but like those those those moments of glories just sort

1258
01:10:04,240 --> 01:10:06,840
Speaker 1: of slipped through your fingers and there's no actual sort

1259
01:10:06,880 --> 01:10:10,639
Speaker 1: of stuff like we're just or just actual like physical

1260
01:10:10,720 --> 01:10:14,000
Speaker 1: substance to them, um, because because how we're gonna like

1261
01:10:14,000 --> 01:10:15,760
Speaker 1: how are you gonna use this? But like where it's

1262
01:10:15,800 --> 01:10:19,599
Speaker 1: like it's like let's stay with like writing or with

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01:10:19,720 --> 01:10:22,280
Speaker 1: like you know, dog grooming. It's like, oh, like there

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01:10:22,320 --> 01:10:24,800
Speaker 1: are ways that you can develop these skills and track

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01:10:24,920 --> 01:10:28,320
Speaker 1: them very concretely, whereas improv was just a little was

1266
01:10:28,320 --> 01:10:30,720
Speaker 1: was so arbitrary, and then it just put you in

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01:10:30,920 --> 01:10:33,320
Speaker 1: it's it's it's this thing that puts you in your

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01:10:33,360 --> 01:10:36,280
Speaker 1: head the most I think Skid of any other I'll

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01:10:36,360 --> 01:10:40,559
Speaker 1: never forget watching I had met Bowen like my freshman

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01:10:40,640 --> 01:10:44,719
Speaker 1: year UM. But then I went to UM an improv

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01:10:44,800 --> 01:10:47,960
Speaker 1: show that Bone was doing in college, and I didn't

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01:10:48,000 --> 01:10:51,080
Speaker 1: really know Bowen super well like we had met like

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01:10:51,120 --> 01:10:53,519
Speaker 1: we did. We had went with mutual friends to one

1274
01:10:53,560 --> 01:10:55,800
Speaker 1: comedy show and then I remember I want to go

1275
01:10:55,880 --> 01:10:58,439
Speaker 1: see his improv team, Danger Box, and he came off

1276
01:10:58,439 --> 01:11:00,920
Speaker 1: the back line and he had she had a scene

1277
01:11:00,920 --> 01:11:05,480
Speaker 1: with in a future world the robots are the queens.

1278
01:11:05,960 --> 01:11:09,000
Speaker 1: And I was just like, so stupid, and I was

1279
01:11:09,040 --> 01:11:11,240
Speaker 1: just like I was. I was just like, this is

1280
01:11:11,280 --> 01:11:17,639
Speaker 1: like ter terrible improvment. But I was in the audience

1281
01:11:17,680 --> 01:11:22,360
Speaker 1: and I was screaming because he had such star energy.

1282
01:11:22,520 --> 01:11:29,720
Speaker 1: He was you are you are, you are, you are?

1283
01:11:30,200 --> 01:11:34,599
Speaker 1: But but Bowen like he just exploded off the stage

1284
01:11:34,600 --> 01:11:37,000
Speaker 1: and I was like, oh my god, And I do

1285
01:11:37,240 --> 01:11:40,000
Speaker 1: I do think that there is something to that too.

1286
01:11:40,080 --> 01:11:43,040
Speaker 1: It's like when you see people that are so amazing.

1287
01:11:43,160 --> 01:11:45,200
Speaker 1: It makes you want to be involved in it too.

1288
01:11:45,560 --> 01:11:51,640
Speaker 1: And that's talk about this. We can't talk about that.

1289
01:11:51,720 --> 01:11:55,080
Speaker 1: Well I I will talk about it, um wait I

1290
01:11:55,120 --> 01:11:56,960
Speaker 1: do before we move on, I do want to talk

1291
01:11:56,960 --> 01:12:04,200
Speaker 1: a little bit more about scatter and revisor. Okay, um no, wait.

1292
01:12:04,360 --> 01:12:07,880
Speaker 1: Summarize these summarizes as the connective tissue as best as

1293
01:12:07,880 --> 01:12:09,760
Speaker 1: you can, Like how did one go? Thank God, I've

1294
01:12:09,800 --> 01:12:14,479
Speaker 1: never even thought about its set, Like, yeah I did,

1295
01:12:15,000 --> 01:12:18,640
Speaker 1: I did. I had the Betty Page haircut, I wore coppers,

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01:12:19,200 --> 01:12:22,200
Speaker 1: Oh my god. I would just go to all the

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01:12:22,280 --> 01:12:26,680
Speaker 1: underground SKA shows and see these like bands. There used

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01:12:26,680 --> 01:12:29,400
Speaker 1: to be a club called the Alligator Lounge and it's

1299
01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,759
Speaker 1: like where the NewYork Theater is, like on Santa Monica

1300
01:12:31,800 --> 01:12:33,559
Speaker 1: off the four oh five. Like I would drive there,

1301
01:12:34,360 --> 01:12:37,320
Speaker 1: um but yeah, I would just I was just very

1302
01:12:37,360 --> 01:12:41,360
Speaker 1: I would go to all the show every weekend, um,

1303
01:12:41,439 --> 01:12:45,320
Speaker 1: you know, and just see all these little bands, date

1304
01:12:45,360 --> 01:12:49,320
Speaker 1: the guys. Um just be the groupies of the bands.

1305
01:12:50,160 --> 01:12:52,680
Speaker 1: I still would. Like there's a band called Hepcat and

1306
01:12:52,680 --> 01:12:58,639
Speaker 1: they were my favorite SKA band, like a hepatitis cut. Yes,

1307
01:12:58,760 --> 01:13:03,400
Speaker 1: but no, but if you if you ever are like

1308
01:13:03,439 --> 01:13:07,240
Speaker 1: in the mood for something fun and different. Checkout Hepcat. Um.

1309
01:13:07,360 --> 01:13:10,559
Speaker 1: Yeah they were a great band. And um, I don't so,

1310
01:13:10,760 --> 01:13:14,240
Speaker 1: I man, I don't even know what the threat is

1311
01:13:14,600 --> 01:13:19,000
Speaker 1: between SKA and being a raver. It seems like all

1312
01:13:19,040 --> 01:13:22,800
Speaker 1: three of these things are built on community, right. Yeah,

1313
01:13:22,960 --> 01:13:26,720
Speaker 1: it's like you you're finding people who and like you're

1314
01:13:26,760 --> 01:13:29,720
Speaker 1: talking about like what you're seeing on stage or you know,

1315
01:13:29,760 --> 01:13:32,800
Speaker 1: it's like you're talking about some shared experience. It's so true.

1316
01:13:32,880 --> 01:13:36,400
Speaker 1: It's always like with a community. There's a community of

1317
01:13:36,720 --> 01:13:41,880
Speaker 1: ravers in a community of SKA people and improvisers. And

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01:13:41,920 --> 01:13:43,920
Speaker 1: it's not the thing. It's not the thing where you

1319
01:13:43,960 --> 01:13:47,479
Speaker 1: went from SCA into like solo archery or whatever. It

1320
01:13:47,520 --> 01:13:49,320
Speaker 1: was like a very like solitude thing. It was like

1321
01:13:49,360 --> 01:13:52,360
Speaker 1: you you went from like group to group and like

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01:13:53,120 --> 01:13:56,599
Speaker 1: I don't know, Like, yeah, that's true. I need a family, Okay,

1323
01:13:56,760 --> 01:14:00,160
Speaker 1: I need I have. It's it's very clear to me.

1324
01:14:00,720 --> 01:14:03,320
Speaker 1: She wants to be in a community, she wants to move,

1325
01:14:03,680 --> 01:14:06,680
Speaker 1: and she wants to sweat, so you know what I mean. So,

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01:14:06,800 --> 01:14:09,559
Speaker 1: so basically all these things are connected. When you're involved

1327
01:14:09,600 --> 01:14:15,880
Speaker 1: in the scot community, not involved in the SCA community,

1328
01:14:16,080 --> 01:14:18,759
Speaker 1: you are involved in this community, and I actually, I actually,

1329
01:14:18,800 --> 01:14:21,120
Speaker 1: when I was in high school, I attended one ska

1330
01:14:21,360 --> 01:14:24,519
Speaker 1: thing at a bowling alley and I skanked with the

1331
01:14:24,520 --> 01:14:26,720
Speaker 1: best of them, and I remember being so sweaty in

1332
01:14:26,760 --> 01:14:28,840
Speaker 1: my white T shirt and black jeans and I was

1333
01:14:28,920 --> 01:14:31,240
Speaker 1: just like really killing it and like I did not

1334
01:14:31,320 --> 01:14:32,800
Speaker 1: belong there at all, but I was like, this was

1335
01:14:32,840 --> 01:14:35,519
Speaker 1: so fun because it was like dancing, but it wasn't

1336
01:14:35,560 --> 01:14:37,719
Speaker 1: like bumping grind, like I didn't have to be sexual.

1337
01:14:37,800 --> 01:14:39,559
Speaker 1: It was just like kind of like we're all kind

1338
01:14:39,560 --> 01:14:41,800
Speaker 1: of freaking out and doing our weird old thing. And

1339
01:14:41,840 --> 01:14:44,640
Speaker 1: then with a rave culture, it's like that's sort of

1340
01:14:44,640 --> 01:14:48,080
Speaker 1: there's sort of a progression there, you know. It was

1341
01:14:48,920 --> 01:14:51,600
Speaker 1: it like real big fish or was it like it

1342
01:14:51,720 --> 01:14:53,439
Speaker 1: was like real big fish? It was it was like

1343
01:14:53,600 --> 01:14:57,519
Speaker 1: it was like you know, commercial Scott. It was sort

1344
01:14:57,560 --> 01:15:02,000
Speaker 1: of like commercial Yeah. Yeah. I was like very into

1345
01:15:02,200 --> 01:15:07,880
Speaker 1: like the old Jamaican ska and like authentic Desmond Decker

1346
01:15:08,120 --> 01:15:10,960
Speaker 1: and yeah, Phyllis Dillon and the Toots and the may

1347
01:15:11,000 --> 01:15:24,160
Speaker 1: Tolls like that kind of yeah, oh yeah, but that's okay.

1348
01:15:22,800 --> 01:15:29,280
Speaker 1: But that's like that's where I became a ska music nerd,

1349
01:15:29,960 --> 01:15:32,280
Speaker 1: where I would just really get into like the old

1350
01:15:32,479 --> 01:15:35,640
Speaker 1: traditional ska music and then like do you guys know

1351
01:15:35,720 --> 01:15:41,000
Speaker 1: the bands like the Specials and Madness from the eighties. Okay,

1352
01:15:41,080 --> 01:15:43,719
Speaker 1: so like yeah, I was just There's and then became

1353
01:15:43,800 --> 01:15:46,120
Speaker 1: like real big fish and like those big less than

1354
01:15:46,240 --> 01:15:50,479
Speaker 1: Jake and Mighty Much tones. Gwen Stefani would perform. She

1355
01:15:50,640 --> 01:15:53,040
Speaker 1: did songs with Sublime back in the day. There, you know,

1356
01:15:53,160 --> 01:15:55,559
Speaker 1: No doubt really started off as like one of these

1357
01:15:55,600 --> 01:15:59,519
Speaker 1: smaller bands that came up when I was into ska.

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01:16:00,040 --> 01:16:04,679
Speaker 1: Then now like you know, she's a pop star. But right, so, um,

1359
01:16:04,760 --> 01:16:07,800
Speaker 1: what do you feel about Gwen Stefani? Now, I mean,

1360
01:16:07,840 --> 01:16:10,840
Speaker 1: I don't I like her. I don't. I don't know.

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01:16:10,960 --> 01:16:12,599
Speaker 1: I don't listen to a ton of her music, but

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01:16:12,720 --> 01:16:16,280
Speaker 1: I love you know, she's an icon. I don't know,

1363
01:16:16,640 --> 01:16:19,040
Speaker 1: She's definitely an icon. Is what I mean to say,

1364
01:16:19,160 --> 01:16:24,360
Speaker 1: is like, well, no, no, not that it's okay. What

1365
01:16:25,160 --> 01:16:27,760
Speaker 1: it's like her her and Blake Shelton like hanging out

1366
01:16:27,760 --> 01:16:30,400
Speaker 1: with like Paul Ryan at Ski launches and it's like

1367
01:16:30,439 --> 01:16:33,360
Speaker 1: that thing where's like, oh, she's like she's horseshoe theory

1368
01:16:33,439 --> 01:16:36,519
Speaker 1: herself from being very punk aesthetic into being like this

1369
01:16:36,640 --> 01:16:42,400
Speaker 1: conservative woman yeah. Yeah, I mean I don't know, you know,

1370
01:16:42,720 --> 01:16:46,000
Speaker 1: it seems like she's devolving and it's her journey love

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01:16:46,040 --> 01:16:50,760
Speaker 1: and light to Gwen, she's doing a thing. Yeah, she

1372
01:16:50,920 --> 01:16:55,240
Speaker 1: certainly is. Yes, she certainly is. Talk about very briefly

1373
01:16:55,240 --> 01:16:57,479
Speaker 1: your experience at the dc M party space, if that

1374
01:16:59,640 --> 01:17:05,160
Speaker 1: were you, I was a ho. Yes, I wanted to

1375
01:17:05,200 --> 01:17:10,160
Speaker 1: be drunk as fuck, stoned as fuck, getting disgusting in

1376
01:17:10,240 --> 01:17:16,120
Speaker 1: that basement hallway under Gustid's just just like hooking up

1377
01:17:16,120 --> 01:17:23,320
Speaker 1: with the grossest, sweatiest improvisers, dancing in midnight shows on stage,

1378
01:17:23,560 --> 01:17:27,639
Speaker 1: taking off my clothes, just being a loon. The things

1379
01:17:27,640 --> 01:17:29,439
Speaker 1: that I did in that space. I once ate a

1380
01:17:29,479 --> 01:17:36,760
Speaker 1: carrot that had been in John Gemberling's ass, No, my god,

1381
01:17:37,240 --> 01:17:40,559
Speaker 1: what I ate it off the ground. So basically he

1382
01:17:40,640 --> 01:17:46,760
Speaker 1: had done a disgusting Yeah, he had like put a

1383
01:17:46,800 --> 01:17:49,920
Speaker 1: carrot in his in his underwear, and then like I guess,

1384
01:17:49,920 --> 01:17:54,280
Speaker 1: the carrot came out and I was so wasted in

1385
01:17:54,320 --> 01:17:57,080
Speaker 1: the improv scene after that, I came out and like

1386
01:17:57,280 --> 01:17:59,160
Speaker 1: I was doing it, and then I was like dancing

1387
01:17:59,160 --> 01:18:01,479
Speaker 1: and the crowd was like screaming and they were like,

1388
01:18:01,600 --> 01:18:04,599
Speaker 1: eat the carrot, eat the carrol, and I was just like,

1389
01:18:04,720 --> 01:18:08,080
Speaker 1: you want to eat this carrot and they're like, yes, slut,

1390
01:18:08,400 --> 01:18:09,960
Speaker 1: and I was like, I'm gonna eat it. And I

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01:18:10,120 --> 01:18:12,320
Speaker 1: ate the carrot off the ground and I thought and

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01:18:12,360 --> 01:18:15,280
Speaker 1: they were screaming. They were screaming, and they were like

1393
01:18:15,720 --> 01:18:17,880
Speaker 1: they were like, oh my god. And I thought, Oh,

1394
01:18:17,920 --> 01:18:20,240
Speaker 1: they're really freaking out that I eat this carrot off

1395
01:18:20,280 --> 01:18:26,360
Speaker 1: the ground. And I'll never forget James asshole floor. James

1396
01:18:26,400 --> 01:18:30,519
Speaker 1: Twire looked me in the eyes afterwards and he goes, Dude,

1397
01:18:30,720 --> 01:18:34,599
Speaker 1: that carrot was in Gemberling's ass and I was like,

1398
01:18:35,080 --> 01:18:37,920
Speaker 1: uh what, And I remember I just like could feel

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01:18:38,000 --> 01:18:42,080
Speaker 1: the carrot in my stomach. No, I didn't, and I

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01:18:42,200 --> 01:18:44,400
Speaker 1: just moved on. I moved on from that. I like

1401
01:18:44,439 --> 01:18:46,479
Speaker 1: went on and you know, did a new drug probably,

1402
01:18:46,840 --> 01:18:49,160
Speaker 1: But then years later he would be the star of

1403
01:18:49,200 --> 01:18:54,000
Speaker 1: broad City. Should we tell the readers what DCM is.

1404
01:18:54,600 --> 01:18:57,840
Speaker 1: Dell close. It's like a huge We've talked about it

1405
01:18:57,840 --> 01:18:59,560
Speaker 1: before in the past, but you don't know. If you

1406
01:18:59,600 --> 01:19:02,519
Speaker 1: don't know, now you know, it's like Douchlas Marathon is

1407
01:19:02,560 --> 01:19:06,240
Speaker 1: like essentially Woodstock for improvisers every year, or at least

1408
01:19:06,240 --> 01:19:10,080
Speaker 1: it was twenty four hours for three days straight. Five

1409
01:19:10,160 --> 01:19:14,360
Speaker 1: AM shows shows every fifteen minutes and you don't sleep

1410
01:19:14,439 --> 01:19:18,920
Speaker 1: and you're disgusting and it's horrible. But the biggest comedians

1411
01:19:18,960 --> 01:19:21,360
Speaker 1: and that are like related to improv in the world

1412
01:19:21,560 --> 01:19:23,200
Speaker 1: come and do it. I mean Del Close was like

1413
01:19:23,280 --> 01:19:25,920
Speaker 1: essentially the sentence of improv and he was like that.

1414
01:19:26,000 --> 01:19:28,960
Speaker 1: He was like a godlike figure and improv which is problematic,

1415
01:19:29,320 --> 01:19:33,080
Speaker 1: but you know he he in his image was Delas

1416
01:19:33,200 --> 01:19:35,960
Speaker 1: Marathon was created and it was essentially like a festival

1417
01:19:36,000 --> 01:19:37,760
Speaker 1: for three days, and I remember it always fell on

1418
01:19:37,800 --> 01:19:40,599
Speaker 1: Pride weekend in New York. Yeah, it was bad, which

1419
01:19:40,680 --> 01:19:46,200
Speaker 1: was a nightmare right China Cross Town during Pride in

1420
01:19:46,240 --> 01:19:50,360
Speaker 1: New York. Forget it, forget it. But just like for

1421
01:19:50,479 --> 01:19:54,360
Speaker 1: gay improvisers, that was like there was too much. There's

1422
01:19:54,400 --> 01:19:57,559
Speaker 1: too much stuff. Yeah, um but yeah, I mean some

1423
01:19:57,560 --> 01:20:00,760
Speaker 1: some great horrible memories from I mean like those bit

1424
01:20:00,840 --> 01:20:04,120
Speaker 1: shows were a wild You had diaper Baby where everyone

1425
01:20:04,120 --> 01:20:07,040
Speaker 1: would come out and these men would come out in diapers.

1426
01:20:07,320 --> 01:20:11,200
Speaker 1: Um you, I mean there was just so much. I

1427
01:20:11,240 --> 01:20:13,320
Speaker 1: remember there was one where I think Matt and I

1428
01:20:13,400 --> 01:20:16,360
Speaker 1: un I did something where people had to drink milk,

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01:20:16,960 --> 01:20:20,519
Speaker 1: Like every scene it was milk and peppers. Peers. It

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01:20:20,640 --> 01:20:22,200
Speaker 1: was you had to you had to eat a hot

1431
01:20:22,240 --> 01:20:24,479
Speaker 1: pepper and while you were doing a scene, and the

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01:20:24,720 --> 01:20:27,840
Speaker 1: peppers were so hot, and then you there was milk

1433
01:20:27,920 --> 01:20:31,920
Speaker 1: there to like stop the spice, and you had to

1434
01:20:32,000 --> 01:20:34,200
Speaker 1: do this scene without drinking the milk. That was the

1435
01:20:34,200 --> 01:20:37,080
Speaker 1: whole thing. Milk and peppers. Milk and peppers. And we

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01:20:37,120 --> 01:20:39,560
Speaker 1: also did we we did. I don't know if you

1437
01:20:39,600 --> 01:20:41,120
Speaker 1: were in this one, but me and Josh and Aaron

1438
01:20:41,320 --> 01:20:43,960
Speaker 1: and Pat and a bunch of people and Brian Foston.

1439
01:20:44,160 --> 01:20:45,720
Speaker 1: It was like it was all gays and we were

1440
01:20:45,760 --> 01:20:48,439
Speaker 1: all pretending we were from Boston and calling each other faggot.

1441
01:20:48,800 --> 01:20:51,479
Speaker 1: It was just fifteen minutes of Boston gays calling each

1442
01:20:51,520 --> 01:20:54,200
Speaker 1: other faggot. And that was it, And that was that

1443
01:20:54,280 --> 01:20:57,400
Speaker 1: was a show. It was all gayt being like yeah,

1444
01:20:58,240 --> 01:21:02,000
Speaker 1: just like and it was just like comedy people. Some

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01:21:03,080 --> 01:21:05,200
Speaker 1: readers will not like that, but I don't know, I

1446
01:21:05,200 --> 01:21:06,600
Speaker 1: don't know what to tell you. It's a part of

1447
01:21:06,640 --> 01:21:11,280
Speaker 1: comedy history. Um. The things that I ended up doing

1448
01:21:11,360 --> 01:21:16,000
Speaker 1: during DCM, I got my dick sucked on the Street's

1449
01:21:16,160 --> 01:21:18,760
Speaker 1: not the first time, I know, the first and only

1450
01:21:18,800 --> 01:21:21,439
Speaker 1: time on Eighth Avenue at like two in the morning,

1451
01:21:21,479 --> 01:21:23,840
Speaker 1: I off grinder, I like looked up with the sky

1452
01:21:23,880 --> 01:21:29,519
Speaker 1: on the street traffic, like, did you tell in front

1453
01:21:29,520 --> 01:21:35,800
Speaker 1: of God and gristus? Wow, I'm not kidding. It was dark.

1454
01:21:37,240 --> 01:21:40,360
Speaker 1: But anyway, I don't think so honey, it's time for

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01:21:40,479 --> 01:21:42,639
Speaker 1: it now. I don't think so honey. What is it?

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01:21:42,760 --> 01:21:44,600
Speaker 1: I don't think so honey. Is our segment where we

1457
01:21:44,680 --> 01:21:49,559
Speaker 1: each take one minute to really get angry about something

1458
01:21:49,560 --> 01:21:55,719
Speaker 1: in culture. Wouldn't you say? I would say it starts

1459
01:21:55,760 --> 01:22:00,160
Speaker 1: take one minute to rail something, get so mad we

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01:22:00,400 --> 01:22:06,679
Speaker 1: rail it like like you're on eighth Avenue. A U. Okay,

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01:22:06,720 --> 01:22:09,519
Speaker 1: So I have something that I alluded to before. Kay,

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01:22:10,320 --> 01:22:12,880
Speaker 1: that's right, and I can't wait to hear it. Right,

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01:22:12,880 --> 01:22:14,280
Speaker 1: So we'll go with We'll go Matt and me and

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01:22:14,280 --> 01:22:17,080
Speaker 1: then we'll do Jess. Yeah. Perfect, this is Matt Rodgers.

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01:22:17,120 --> 01:22:19,200
Speaker 1: I don't think so many as time starts now, I

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01:22:19,240 --> 01:22:21,519
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. The marriage of Michael Darby and

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01:22:21,560 --> 01:22:27,559
Speaker 1: Ashley Darby. This has to end, Ashley. No, And honestly,

1468
01:22:27,600 --> 01:22:29,280
Speaker 1: I think I get what you're going for here, which

1469
01:22:29,360 --> 01:22:31,599
Speaker 1: is you wanted to get pregnant again so that you're

1470
01:22:32,200 --> 01:22:34,680
Speaker 1: your daughter could have a sibling because your sibling is

1471
01:22:34,720 --> 01:22:39,600
Speaker 1: important to you. I understand that, But Babe, the husband's

1472
01:22:39,680 --> 01:22:42,759
Speaker 1: gotta go. Now that you have, you have your family,

1473
01:22:42,880 --> 01:22:46,120
Speaker 1: your daughter has like gonna have their sibling. You gotta go, girl,

1474
01:22:46,200 --> 01:22:50,040
Speaker 1: because he is bad. Nu. I don't think so, honey,

1475
01:22:50,080 --> 01:22:53,400
Speaker 1: Michael Darby. I don't believe the thing that you say

1476
01:22:53,479 --> 01:22:56,360
Speaker 1: about not sleeping with these women. You grabbed and you

1477
01:22:56,360 --> 01:22:59,360
Speaker 1: grabbed the asses and assaulted member of the Potoma cruise,

1478
01:22:59,360 --> 01:23:01,639
Speaker 1: something that's for some reason does not get discussed anymore.

1479
01:23:01,720 --> 01:23:05,439
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. Him. I don't think so, honey, Ashley,

1480
01:23:05,479 --> 01:23:08,639
Speaker 1: Now that you know better, because foolmy once, shame on you,

1481
01:23:08,840 --> 01:23:12,320
Speaker 1: fool me twice, shame on me. Honey. You need to

1482
01:23:12,400 --> 01:23:14,920
Speaker 1: know this phrase because you're about to get full to

1483
01:23:14,960 --> 01:23:16,880
Speaker 1: the third time. And I know that you keep saying

1484
01:23:16,920 --> 01:23:18,519
Speaker 1: you're not afraid to leave. Michael, it seems like you are.

1485
01:23:18,520 --> 01:23:20,120
Speaker 1: I don't think so, honey. You need to buck up.

1486
01:23:20,600 --> 01:23:24,080
Speaker 1: And that's one minute. Now. Your husband is bad for Ashley.

1487
01:23:24,120 --> 01:23:26,759
Speaker 1: It's foolmy once, shame on you, fool me twice, still

1488
01:23:27,080 --> 01:23:34,639
Speaker 1: shame on you. She clearly does not know she doesn't

1489
01:23:34,640 --> 01:23:36,519
Speaker 1: know the phrase, because if she didn't know the phrase,

1490
01:23:36,880 --> 01:23:40,360
Speaker 1: she would know that she is getting rode hard and

1491
01:23:40,400 --> 01:23:43,759
Speaker 1: put away wet by her husband publicly. And I can't

1492
01:23:43,800 --> 01:23:46,719
Speaker 1: believe the scene in Potomac, which was them at dinner

1493
01:23:47,200 --> 01:23:49,160
Speaker 1: discussing their business and then he was like, we're done,

1494
01:23:49,160 --> 01:23:51,679
Speaker 1: We're done, and the producer came over and the fourth

1495
01:23:51,720 --> 01:23:54,360
Speaker 1: wall was broken yet again on a real housewife show,

1496
01:23:55,080 --> 01:23:59,320
Speaker 1: and she was just like, obviously through with it. And

1497
01:23:59,400 --> 01:24:01,080
Speaker 1: I think that she doesn't. She doesn't want to be

1498
01:24:01,120 --> 01:24:03,519
Speaker 1: in this marriage at all. I think I think she

1499
01:24:03,560 --> 01:24:06,400
Speaker 1: wanted her kid to have a sibling because it's I

1500
01:24:06,560 --> 01:24:08,720
Speaker 1: think she feels it's important, but she needs to get

1501
01:24:08,760 --> 01:24:11,720
Speaker 1: out of that marriage. She loves her half sister, and

1502
01:24:11,760 --> 01:24:13,680
Speaker 1: I don't I don't. I don't necessarily think that she

1503
01:24:13,880 --> 01:24:18,519
Speaker 1: feels that like it's a more legitimate siblinghood for these

1504
01:24:18,840 --> 01:24:23,160
Speaker 1: kids to have the same parents. I think that it's

1505
01:24:23,320 --> 01:24:27,439
Speaker 1: so clearly, clearly fucked up. Michael's answering the phone as

1506
01:24:27,479 --> 01:24:29,800
Speaker 1: if she's a nuisance, even though he's only ever been

1507
01:24:29,800 --> 01:24:32,200
Speaker 1: in the wrong. It's like, this guy is one of

1508
01:24:32,240 --> 01:24:34,600
Speaker 1: the most vile human beings. Oh, he's one of the

1509
01:24:34,600 --> 01:24:37,920
Speaker 1: worst people on television. And it's it's it's really getting

1510
01:24:37,920 --> 01:24:40,400
Speaker 1: to the point now where not as good as Ramona Singer.

1511
01:24:40,479 --> 01:24:42,880
Speaker 1: He's unfortunately Remona singer still takes the cake. I want

1512
01:24:42,920 --> 01:24:45,360
Speaker 1: her to die alone. As I said, well she, I'm

1513
01:24:45,400 --> 01:24:48,000
Speaker 1: gonna go ahead and say I'm if it's team Michael

1514
01:24:48,080 --> 01:24:50,920
Speaker 1: versus Team Ramona, I'm team Ramona. I I don't think

1515
01:24:50,960 --> 01:24:55,840
Speaker 1: Michael Darby is permissible. I Ramon Ramona is maybe a

1516
01:24:55,840 --> 01:24:58,880
Speaker 1: white supremacist. She keeps tiki torches in her garage. I

1517
01:24:58,920 --> 01:25:01,960
Speaker 1: hope Andy asked you a about all your claims against

1518
01:25:02,040 --> 01:25:04,240
Speaker 1: Ramona and I actually I would love to pop off

1519
01:25:04,240 --> 01:25:08,000
Speaker 1: of that. Ramona. I would love to disappointed that you're

1520
01:25:08,040 --> 01:25:10,000
Speaker 1: not on an episode of Watch What Happens Live with

1521
01:25:10,080 --> 01:25:12,840
Speaker 1: Ramona because I think I would love to be. I

1522
01:25:12,880 --> 01:25:14,479
Speaker 1: would love to be in the future. I would love

1523
01:25:14,520 --> 01:25:16,679
Speaker 1: to be on an episode with ms Ramona Singer. Would

1524
01:25:16,760 --> 01:25:26,400
Speaker 1: your business? Yes? Really? Oh God? Okay? So basically the

1525
01:25:26,479 --> 01:25:29,240
Speaker 1: three is Me, Bowen and Joel, and Joel was on

1526
01:25:29,320 --> 01:25:32,960
Speaker 1: Watch What Happens Live with Miss Kenya Moore herself. Bowen

1527
01:25:33,080 --> 01:25:35,880
Speaker 1: is about to be on with Monique Samuel's and I

1528
01:25:35,920 --> 01:25:37,920
Speaker 1: am putting into the universe that one day when I

1529
01:25:37,920 --> 01:25:42,360
Speaker 1: get booked on Watch What Happens Live. God willing, I

1530
01:25:42,400 --> 01:25:44,960
Speaker 1: don't care. I just want to be with a housewife.

1531
01:25:45,200 --> 01:25:48,519
Speaker 1: I want to be with a housewife. It's gonna happen. Well,

1532
01:25:48,560 --> 01:25:50,639
Speaker 1: I want to be It's my favorite show. When Bowen

1533
01:25:50,680 --> 01:25:52,280
Speaker 1: said he was gonna be honest, I immediately was like

1534
01:25:52,400 --> 01:25:54,160
Speaker 1: I was popping off. I was like, Okay, well it

1535
01:25:54,240 --> 01:25:56,400
Speaker 1: might be Robin because she hasn't been on yet, and

1536
01:25:56,479 --> 01:25:59,080
Speaker 1: well you know Candice, she's coming on. And so I

1537
01:25:59,120 --> 01:26:01,880
Speaker 1: watched it every night. I love watching Happens Live. I'm

1538
01:26:01,920 --> 01:26:04,800
Speaker 1: such a Brava holic. You're a Brava holic. I was

1539
01:26:04,840 --> 01:26:06,960
Speaker 1: I was gonna be happy with any of the Potomac women,

1540
01:26:07,000 --> 01:26:08,720
Speaker 1: and I said that in my response back. I was like,

1541
01:26:08,720 --> 01:26:10,559
Speaker 1: I'd love to do it, especially if it was if

1542
01:26:10,560 --> 01:26:13,559
Speaker 1: it's with the Potomac Housewife and so out of you

1543
01:26:13,680 --> 01:26:17,719
Speaker 1: that you got booked on it, thank you girl, but Matt.

1544
01:26:17,800 --> 01:26:19,680
Speaker 1: But Matt was like, it's either gonna be, it's gonna be.

1545
01:26:19,720 --> 01:26:24,439
Speaker 1: The options are Wendy, Uh, Monique, or Robin Queen. And

1546
01:26:24,479 --> 01:26:26,040
Speaker 1: I was like, any of them might be so happy.

1547
01:26:26,120 --> 01:26:28,000
Speaker 1: I'm kind of disappointed that you're not on with Wendy

1548
01:26:28,040 --> 01:26:31,000
Speaker 1: because I think that become friends, me and Wendy, we

1549
01:26:31,000 --> 01:26:33,240
Speaker 1: can talk about like our immigrant parents. You know, I

1550
01:26:33,320 --> 01:26:35,439
Speaker 1: was thinking of during this episode. I was like, there's

1551
01:26:35,479 --> 01:26:38,320
Speaker 1: so many similarities. I know. I love Wendy a sef

1552
01:26:38,320 --> 01:26:41,240
Speaker 1: of a lot. Anyway, so we're we're talking a lot

1553
01:26:41,240 --> 01:26:44,200
Speaker 1: of potomac I have I haven't. I don't think so honey. Okay,

1554
01:26:44,320 --> 01:26:46,880
Speaker 1: So traditionally, after I do my I don't think so honey,

1555
01:26:46,920 --> 01:26:48,960
Speaker 1: bow and Yang will do his. I don't think so honey,

1556
01:26:49,040 --> 01:26:52,800
Speaker 1: And that tradition is upheld tonight because it is time

1557
01:26:52,880 --> 01:26:54,960
Speaker 1: for Bowen Yang's. I don't think so honey. On this

1558
01:26:55,080 --> 01:26:58,720
Speaker 1: the episode of Just Rhona on Losrestas, as I get

1559
01:26:58,760 --> 01:27:02,320
Speaker 1: my camera, all right, here we go, you're I don't think,

1560
01:27:02,360 --> 01:27:05,400
Speaker 1: so honey. Time starts from now. I don't think so honey.

1561
01:27:05,520 --> 01:27:11,320
Speaker 1: Cooking it's messy, it's hard, it's inconvenient, it's we we

1562
01:27:11,400 --> 01:27:14,400
Speaker 1: all sort of accepted as part of our lives, even

1563
01:27:14,479 --> 01:27:19,479
Speaker 1: with restaurants, even with ordering delivery. Cooking. I can't believe

1564
01:27:19,479 --> 01:27:21,600
Speaker 1: that it's a necessary part of our There should be

1565
01:27:21,920 --> 01:27:26,720
Speaker 1: readily edible food growing off trees in the parks, in

1566
01:27:26,760 --> 01:27:31,639
Speaker 1: the grass, stuff that's not just bananas and fruits and vegetables, meals.

1567
01:27:31,760 --> 01:27:35,960
Speaker 1: Meals should be kind of coming from the dirty. Capitalism

1568
01:27:36,080 --> 01:27:39,960
Speaker 1: has driven us to a place of disgusting surplus. Why

1569
01:27:40,000 --> 01:27:43,679
Speaker 1: are we not abolishing cooking? We should have ready made

1570
01:27:43,720 --> 01:27:47,759
Speaker 1: food available to us at all times on demand. Cooking

1571
01:27:47,960 --> 01:27:51,120
Speaker 1: today I made a baked zita was so difficult, and

1572
01:27:51,200 --> 01:27:54,800
Speaker 1: the process of collecting ingredients. Make sure the dishes were

1573
01:27:54,840 --> 01:27:57,479
Speaker 1: washed before you cook. Then after you took you get

1574
01:27:57,520 --> 01:27:59,880
Speaker 1: dirty dishes and you gotta clean those dishes all over again.

1575
01:28:00,320 --> 01:28:03,320
Speaker 1: It's a Sissyphian task to cook because guess what, you're

1576
01:28:03,320 --> 01:28:04,920
Speaker 1: going to have to do it again because you got

1577
01:28:04,920 --> 01:28:08,000
Speaker 1: to eat. And that's one minute. That was a gorgeous

1578
01:28:08,120 --> 01:28:13,400
Speaker 1: dressing down and also explanation of cooking for all. Yes,

1579
01:28:13,600 --> 01:28:20,960
Speaker 1: the applause is loud and raucous. Um disagreed with. And

1580
01:28:20,960 --> 01:28:22,759
Speaker 1: I don't think there's anymore. All of a sudden, Hans

1581
01:28:22,760 --> 01:28:25,519
Speaker 1: team met. It's probably because I called him hot earlier

1582
01:28:25,520 --> 01:28:30,080
Speaker 1: in the chat. He looked really hot today. Um, but listen,

1583
01:28:30,760 --> 01:28:32,680
Speaker 1: I identify with you girl. You know I'm not a

1584
01:28:32,680 --> 01:28:35,320
Speaker 1: fan of the stuff. No, you don't like to cook,

1585
01:28:35,360 --> 01:28:37,760
Speaker 1: my we're two sisters. We don't like to cook. We're

1586
01:28:37,760 --> 01:28:39,439
Speaker 1: two sisters. Who don't like to cook. It's really cook

1587
01:28:39,439 --> 01:28:43,040
Speaker 1: A number thirty two were two sisters who don't like

1588
01:28:42,720 --> 01:28:46,679
Speaker 1: to cook. I love watching cooking videos. I love food culture.

1589
01:28:46,760 --> 01:28:49,479
Speaker 1: I love watching other people cook. I don't like doing it.

1590
01:28:50,200 --> 01:28:53,280
Speaker 1: A sense Podma is not gonna like this, Well, no,

1591
01:28:53,400 --> 01:28:55,920
Speaker 1: I would. I love watching Podma cook in her kitchen.

1592
01:28:55,960 --> 01:28:57,880
Speaker 1: I like watching her make a dose. Though I love

1593
01:28:57,920 --> 01:29:00,280
Speaker 1: watching her do anything I do. I don't like looking

1594
01:29:00,439 --> 01:29:02,840
Speaker 1: for me when we have Podma again. I would like

1595
01:29:03,040 --> 01:29:06,120
Speaker 1: the podcast episode to be us cooking with Podma. I

1596
01:29:06,160 --> 01:29:08,040
Speaker 1: want to figure out how we can do that. We

1597
01:29:08,080 --> 01:29:10,640
Speaker 1: can do it. We can in the ingredients list, in

1598
01:29:10,680 --> 01:29:13,960
Speaker 1: the Great After when COVID is less of a concern. Okay,

1599
01:29:14,000 --> 01:29:16,760
Speaker 1: so Hans says she's gonna send he's gonna send her

1600
01:29:16,840 --> 01:29:19,080
Speaker 1: that clip. Well, I think we can make it happen.

1601
01:29:19,160 --> 01:29:23,559
Speaker 1: Podma is down to clown Jess thoughts on cooking. I

1602
01:29:23,920 --> 01:29:26,680
Speaker 1: really see your argument, because you know, you have to

1603
01:29:26,680 --> 01:29:29,519
Speaker 1: clean the dishes, and then you got and then you

1604
01:29:29,560 --> 01:29:31,400
Speaker 1: cook and then guess what, you got to clean the

1605
01:29:31,439 --> 01:29:34,880
Speaker 1: dishes again. So it's hard, and and you know what

1606
01:29:34,920 --> 01:29:38,559
Speaker 1: a big z D that's that's really it's an advanced dish.

1607
01:29:39,320 --> 01:29:42,280
Speaker 1: So um, but I'm I'm totally with you. Fuck it.

1608
01:29:42,640 --> 01:29:46,000
Speaker 1: You know what, Get take out cooking is a vicious cycle.

1609
01:29:46,360 --> 01:29:55,360
Speaker 1: It's actually cycle. Thank you, thank you, thank you. It's cycle.

1610
01:29:55,439 --> 01:29:58,400
Speaker 1: And I'm really grateful that you two are are receiving

1611
01:29:58,400 --> 01:30:01,240
Speaker 1: this and hearing me and giving me. I receive and

1612
01:30:01,280 --> 01:30:04,479
Speaker 1: I hear. Um. I can't wait for this. I don't

1613
01:30:04,479 --> 01:30:08,280
Speaker 1: think so honey, you're ready because this one. I know

1614
01:30:08,840 --> 01:30:11,280
Speaker 1: this one. I fucking know this one. I know so,

1615
01:30:11,320 --> 01:30:13,519
Speaker 1: she said. Out of the two segments, the cultural moment

1616
01:30:13,560 --> 01:30:15,479
Speaker 1: that was for me she was uneasy about. But I

1617
01:30:15,520 --> 01:30:18,120
Speaker 1: don't think so honey. She was because it's really the

1618
01:30:18,160 --> 01:30:23,400
Speaker 1: only thing that means anything to me. Okay, yes, okay,

1619
01:30:23,439 --> 01:30:26,120
Speaker 1: this is Jess rohnas I don't think so honey, and

1620
01:30:26,200 --> 01:30:29,559
Speaker 1: her time starts now. Okay, I don't think so honey.

1621
01:30:29,560 --> 01:30:35,160
Speaker 1: Walking your dog on hot asphalt Okay. People don't realize

1622
01:30:35,400 --> 01:30:38,120
Speaker 1: that when you go to a flea market, if you

1623
01:30:38,160 --> 01:30:41,080
Speaker 1: go to a farmer's market, guess what. It's on the street.

1624
01:30:41,120 --> 01:30:44,200
Speaker 1: It's in a parking lot and your dog is lowered

1625
01:30:44,200 --> 01:30:47,080
Speaker 1: to the ground, which means your dog is hot. I'm

1626
01:30:47,120 --> 01:30:51,120
Speaker 1: a groomer, so I've seen dogs with burned pads because

1627
01:30:51,200 --> 01:30:55,000
Speaker 1: people don't not that bad. But people don't realize that

1628
01:30:55,320 --> 01:31:00,320
Speaker 1: just because it's like maybe sevre, it's it's breeze, it

1629
01:31:00,400 --> 01:31:03,400
Speaker 1: doesn't mean that your dog is not panting its ass

1630
01:31:03,400 --> 01:31:08,120
Speaker 1: off overheating. I almost can't go to a farmer's market

1631
01:31:08,200 --> 01:31:11,600
Speaker 1: or flea market because I get so upset when I

1632
01:31:11,640 --> 01:31:15,920
Speaker 1: see people walking their dogs on asphalt. Stay in the shade,

1633
01:31:16,000 --> 01:31:18,280
Speaker 1: keep your dog home if it's more than seventy five

1634
01:31:18,320 --> 01:31:21,080
Speaker 1: degrees outside, don't take your dog to the flea market

1635
01:31:21,120 --> 01:31:23,720
Speaker 1: or the farmer's market or anywhere on the hot asphalt.

1636
01:31:24,200 --> 01:31:26,840
Speaker 1: Listen to your dog, watch your dog, don't do it.

1637
01:31:29,760 --> 01:31:33,559
Speaker 1: You know what. And she truly, Jess truly will get

1638
01:31:33,560 --> 01:31:35,280
Speaker 1: on the It's amazing and I can't reorme for people

1639
01:31:35,320 --> 01:31:36,519
Speaker 1: to see it in the show, but she will get

1640
01:31:36,520 --> 01:31:39,040
Speaker 1: on the level of the dog and the dogs. The

1641
01:31:39,160 --> 01:31:45,640
Speaker 1: dogs will immediately settle. It's so I've watched videos of

1642
01:31:45,760 --> 01:31:50,120
Speaker 1: Jess with with these doodle mixes, with these and these

1643
01:31:50,160 --> 01:31:54,360
Speaker 1: doodles like and she she is very attuned to how

1644
01:31:54,360 --> 01:31:56,000
Speaker 1: they're feeling. She's like, I'm gonna i' we're gonna, We're

1645
01:31:56,000 --> 01:31:59,439
Speaker 1: gonna give the facial and they're not gonna understand what's happening,

1646
01:31:59,439 --> 01:32:01,280
Speaker 1: but you gotta let them sort of like you know

1647
01:32:01,400 --> 01:32:03,200
Speaker 1: that it's okay. And I'm just like, oh my god,

1648
01:32:03,280 --> 01:32:06,600
Speaker 1: this woman knows how dogs think. Can you do a

1649
01:32:06,600 --> 01:32:09,400
Speaker 1: little bit about how do you communicate with dogs? Yeah,

1650
01:32:09,400 --> 01:32:12,200
Speaker 1: of course I communicate well, you mean, like just in general,

1651
01:32:12,240 --> 01:32:16,439
Speaker 1: how anyone can do it, or just me particularly So

1652
01:32:16,560 --> 01:32:19,720
Speaker 1: for me, I look for opportunities from the dog to

1653
01:32:19,880 --> 01:32:23,960
Speaker 1: respond to. So what I do is I'm just extremely

1654
01:32:24,000 --> 01:32:27,519
Speaker 1: focused on any nuance in their behavior, and it's something

1655
01:32:27,560 --> 01:32:30,200
Speaker 1: that's become second nature to me. So if a dog

1656
01:32:30,240 --> 01:32:33,479
Speaker 1: shies away from something, I know that that they're unsure

1657
01:32:33,479 --> 01:32:36,000
Speaker 1: of me or they're not trusting in in like if

1658
01:32:36,000 --> 01:32:38,240
Speaker 1: I want to Usually it's when dogs um when I

1659
01:32:38,320 --> 01:32:41,439
Speaker 1: comb up on their paws, because if they have any

1660
01:32:41,479 --> 01:32:44,559
Speaker 1: tangles in between their toes, that's a painful spot. Some

1661
01:32:44,640 --> 01:32:47,960
Speaker 1: spots are more painful. So for me, I communicate with

1662
01:32:48,000 --> 01:32:53,080
Speaker 1: them by looking for moments opportunities to respond by being

1663
01:32:53,200 --> 01:32:56,280
Speaker 1: gentle and so I can show them I see you,

1664
01:32:56,720 --> 01:32:59,000
Speaker 1: I know you don't like this. Watch how I've got

1665
01:32:59,000 --> 01:33:01,719
Speaker 1: your back watch. I'm gonna go really slow and gentle

1666
01:33:01,840 --> 01:33:04,400
Speaker 1: and show you that I see you. And once a

1667
01:33:04,479 --> 01:33:07,800
Speaker 1: dog or human feels like they're seen and heard, they're

1668
01:33:07,800 --> 01:33:12,000
Speaker 1: calm m. It's just for anybody. So if you can

1669
01:33:12,080 --> 01:33:16,360
Speaker 1: just and find any way to show someone that you

1670
01:33:16,439 --> 01:33:20,280
Speaker 1: see them and that they are understood, it's it's that's

1671
01:33:20,320 --> 01:33:23,439
Speaker 1: that's the approach of communication with dogs. And it's taken

1672
01:33:23,439 --> 01:33:26,080
Speaker 1: me twenty years to get to that point. That is amazing.

1673
01:33:26,120 --> 01:33:29,160
Speaker 1: And I will say, like it's true like every because

1674
01:33:29,160 --> 01:33:31,360
Speaker 1: the dogs come in and you know, it's a big set,

1675
01:33:31,479 --> 01:33:33,800
Speaker 1: is a lot of people around, and also many dogs

1676
01:33:33,800 --> 01:33:37,439
Speaker 1: are not always comfortable being groomed. Like every dog has

1677
01:33:37,439 --> 01:33:39,840
Speaker 1: a different relationship to that process. You know, not every

1678
01:33:39,880 --> 01:33:43,479
Speaker 1: dog has been groomed since they were a baby or

1679
01:33:43,600 --> 01:33:45,120
Speaker 1: like you know, so and there was kind of a

1680
01:33:45,160 --> 01:33:46,880
Speaker 1: mixed back with the dogs that came into the show,

1681
01:33:47,360 --> 01:33:49,680
Speaker 1: And so that was something that you kept saying to

1682
01:33:49,720 --> 01:33:52,080
Speaker 1: the groomers, was you know, even though it's high stakes

1683
01:33:52,120 --> 01:33:55,439
Speaker 1: in it's the competition, like you always did put the

1684
01:33:55,800 --> 01:33:58,559
Speaker 1: emphasis on listening to the dog, giving the dog what

1685
01:33:58,640 --> 01:34:00,519
Speaker 1: they want, you know what I mean, which I was

1686
01:34:00,560 --> 01:34:03,280
Speaker 1: so impressed by and I had never thought like and

1687
01:34:03,320 --> 01:34:05,920
Speaker 1: also what can happen when you raise your voice around

1688
01:34:06,000 --> 01:34:07,840
Speaker 1: or at a dog like that is not the way

1689
01:34:07,880 --> 01:34:12,880
Speaker 1: to always discipline or get its attention. Yeah, totally for sure.

1690
01:34:14,120 --> 01:34:24,440
Speaker 1: I'm just like beautiful. I was very selfishly as a grimmer.

1691
01:34:24,520 --> 01:34:28,240
Speaker 1: If my dog is happy, my job is easier. So

1692
01:34:28,600 --> 01:34:31,000
Speaker 1: I've done everything I can to learn how to call

1693
01:34:31,120 --> 01:34:33,559
Speaker 1: the dog so that I can have a nicer day

1694
01:34:33,880 --> 01:34:37,799
Speaker 1: and not have to fight or you know. Look, dogs

1695
01:34:37,800 --> 01:34:40,960
Speaker 1: are avoidant. That that's what they do. They just avoid us.

1696
01:34:41,000 --> 01:34:43,120
Speaker 1: They don't want to, you know, their nails trimmed or whatever.

1697
01:34:43,600 --> 01:34:46,280
Speaker 1: So if I can work with a dog that is avoidant,

1698
01:34:46,400 --> 01:34:50,000
Speaker 1: then I can have an easier time, an easier day.

1699
01:34:51,080 --> 01:34:53,519
Speaker 1: Wait till you see these dogs in the Happy Hoodies,

1700
01:34:54,000 --> 01:34:56,840
Speaker 1: which are these little hoodies that they that the dog.

1701
01:34:56,920 --> 01:34:59,600
Speaker 1: They put around the dog's head so that when the

1702
01:34:59,640 --> 01:35:05,599
Speaker 1: blow dryer as loud, it's not as loud. They are

1703
01:35:05,720 --> 01:35:10,200
Speaker 1: really really cute. You're gonna love this show. I can't wait.

1704
01:35:10,240 --> 01:35:13,479
Speaker 1: I'm telling you. Like and people flip for dogs, like

1705
01:35:13,560 --> 01:35:16,360
Speaker 1: even for people who aren't dog people. It's like no,

1706
01:35:16,680 --> 01:35:21,400
Speaker 1: Like dogs like are are powerful sort of like media

1707
01:35:22,160 --> 01:35:25,280
Speaker 1: like like like sort of teasers, like they they'll they'll

1708
01:35:25,479 --> 01:35:27,960
Speaker 1: draw you into something. I was telling Matt this Like

1709
01:35:28,479 --> 01:35:30,200
Speaker 1: I used to work on this at the e commerce site,

1710
01:35:30,200 --> 01:35:31,840
Speaker 1: and like any time there would be options where there

1711
01:35:31,880 --> 01:35:33,840
Speaker 1: would be a photo with a dog or not a dog,

1712
01:35:34,240 --> 01:35:36,320
Speaker 1: every single time they would be like you have to

1713
01:35:36,479 --> 01:35:39,120
Speaker 1: have to have to include the dog because it drives

1714
01:35:39,200 --> 01:35:44,800
Speaker 1: up like engagement by really just love dogs. And so

1715
01:35:45,360 --> 01:35:46,880
Speaker 1: I think this will be a hit. I think it's

1716
01:35:46,880 --> 01:35:49,439
Speaker 1: gonna be I cannot I'm gonna watch every single episode

1717
01:35:49,479 --> 01:35:51,680
Speaker 1: in one setting. I cannot wait, and I'm gonna watch

1718
01:35:51,680 --> 01:35:53,479
Speaker 1: I'm gonna rewatch them because I think it's it'll be

1719
01:35:53,520 --> 01:35:56,400
Speaker 1: that kind of show. I'm really excited. And like I

1720
01:35:56,400 --> 01:35:59,120
Speaker 1: said today, like um, we did get to watch the

1721
01:35:59,160 --> 01:36:01,360
Speaker 1: first episode and it so much fun, and the show

1722
01:36:01,479 --> 01:36:02,720
Speaker 1: is I would say, if I had to break it

1723
01:36:02,760 --> 01:36:06,120
Speaker 1: down into third it's like a third comedy with the panel,

1724
01:36:06,200 --> 01:36:09,080
Speaker 1: it's a third dog grooming process and learning about that,

1725
01:36:09,120 --> 01:36:12,360
Speaker 1: and it's a third narratives about these amazing contestants who

1726
01:36:12,400 --> 01:36:15,000
Speaker 1: are really great and we have such an amazing diverse

1727
01:36:15,360 --> 01:36:18,280
Speaker 1: group of groomers. And I was actually wanted to say,

1728
01:36:18,320 --> 01:36:20,880
Speaker 1: like it was so fun to see there was not

1729
01:36:21,240 --> 01:36:24,040
Speaker 1: one groomer that I felt like was duplicated, you know

1730
01:36:24,040 --> 01:36:27,640
Speaker 1: what I mean, we didn't have so different. Yeah, and

1731
01:36:27,800 --> 01:36:30,800
Speaker 1: the the the dog grooming community is so diverse and

1732
01:36:30,880 --> 01:36:34,720
Speaker 1: different and dynamic, and I love this. I love this.

1733
01:36:35,280 --> 01:36:36,960
Speaker 1: Before we end, I just want to know, like, how

1734
01:36:37,120 --> 01:36:40,679
Speaker 1: involved were you and picking the contestants? Not I wasn't

1735
01:36:40,800 --> 01:36:45,240
Speaker 1: really in charge of casting. I would just send casting

1736
01:36:45,640 --> 01:36:48,559
Speaker 1: my friends or groomers that I think are good. But

1737
01:36:48,760 --> 01:36:52,800
Speaker 1: I every um every episode I would be I would

1738
01:36:52,880 --> 01:36:55,639
Speaker 1: I was handed some cards and that's the first time

1739
01:36:55,680 --> 01:36:58,160
Speaker 1: I would see who was on the show. So I

1740
01:36:58,240 --> 01:37:00,960
Speaker 1: didn't know who was on the show until we shot.

1741
01:37:01,200 --> 01:37:04,360
Speaker 1: And some people I knew and I was so excited

1742
01:37:04,400 --> 01:37:06,320
Speaker 1: to see them, and then some people I didn't know.

1743
01:37:06,520 --> 01:37:09,760
Speaker 1: And I was really surprised at the skill and the

1744
01:37:09,800 --> 01:37:14,559
Speaker 1: different techniques and the innovation that the like the the

1745
01:37:14,640 --> 01:37:17,400
Speaker 1: inventions that they would come up with because they all

1746
01:37:17,439 --> 01:37:20,000
Speaker 1: had to deal with a theme, and like how would

1747
01:37:20,040 --> 01:37:24,840
Speaker 1: they embrace that theme? That was really fun. And the accessories,

1748
01:37:25,439 --> 01:37:28,720
Speaker 1: that's that was more of Robbin's whole thing, where she

1749
01:37:29,400 --> 01:37:31,800
Speaker 1: either loved or hate the accessories. And you know, we

1750
01:37:31,880 --> 01:37:34,439
Speaker 1: never knew what we were going to get with Robin. Well,

1751
01:37:34,520 --> 01:37:37,240
Speaker 1: Robin loves the tales and she loves to talk about

1752
01:37:37,240 --> 01:37:39,519
Speaker 1: the tales and she always loves to, you know, talk

1753
01:37:39,560 --> 01:37:42,320
Speaker 1: about the worthiness of different accessories that are on the

1754
01:37:42,320 --> 01:37:45,400
Speaker 1: animal and the colors and because that's that's another thing

1755
01:37:45,479 --> 01:37:48,240
Speaker 1: is a lot of the dogs like they get colored.

1756
01:37:48,720 --> 01:37:50,760
Speaker 1: And so this is something that I don't think a

1757
01:37:50,760 --> 01:37:52,880
Speaker 1: lot of people know, is that I certainly didn't know that,

1758
01:37:52,920 --> 01:37:56,599
Speaker 1: and I was like, I didn't. But it's really, really

1759
01:37:56,600 --> 01:37:59,120
Speaker 1: really amazing to see what these people do. They're really

1760
01:37:59,280 --> 01:38:01,479
Speaker 1: artists and they're some people that are coming and they

1761
01:38:01,560 --> 01:38:05,360
Speaker 1: really represented themselves amazingly on the show, and so I'm

1762
01:38:05,400 --> 01:38:08,679
Speaker 1: super excited about it. I'm so excited to watch. I really,

1763
01:38:08,720 --> 01:38:10,920
Speaker 1: I'm over here just like I wanted to be Thursday.

1764
01:38:10,920 --> 01:38:14,439
Speaker 1: I cannot wait. Wow, name another legend, name another letter,

1765
01:38:14,560 --> 01:38:19,920
Speaker 1: name another legend. Jess, thank you so much for coming on.

1766
01:38:20,080 --> 01:38:21,880
Speaker 1: I mean I knew the second I met you. I

1767
01:38:21,920 --> 01:38:23,880
Speaker 1: was like, I couldn't wait to have you on, and

1768
01:38:24,200 --> 01:38:27,479
Speaker 1: I couldn't. I could not say enough about how lovely

1769
01:38:27,520 --> 01:38:29,599
Speaker 1: I think you are and how talented I think you are,

1770
01:38:29,680 --> 01:38:33,360
Speaker 1: and how much I appreciate you putting your whole spirit

1771
01:38:33,520 --> 01:38:36,160
Speaker 1: and just like your good vibe into this show because

1772
01:38:36,200 --> 01:38:39,439
Speaker 1: I do think that it's going to make people really happy,

1773
01:38:39,560 --> 01:38:42,760
Speaker 1: and I think that that's like, you know, it's an

1774
01:38:42,760 --> 01:38:47,040
Speaker 1: opportunity for me, yes, but I think for like everyone

1775
01:38:47,080 --> 01:38:49,639
Speaker 1: to just like take a break and watch this thing,

1776
01:38:49,680 --> 01:38:52,400
Speaker 1: because I think one thing that everyone in this world

1777
01:38:52,479 --> 01:38:55,439
Speaker 1: hasn't comeon is like, you know, that feeling of seeing

1778
01:38:55,479 --> 01:38:57,840
Speaker 1: a happy little dog like you know, do its thing.

1779
01:38:58,000 --> 01:38:59,679
Speaker 1: I just think it's going to make people feel really

1780
01:38:59,680 --> 01:39:02,360
Speaker 1: good right now when people really want to feel really good.

1781
01:39:02,400 --> 01:39:06,439
Speaker 1: And so that's because of you and because of well who.

1782
01:39:06,479 --> 01:39:09,160
Speaker 1: The show wouldn't exist without your without you doing what

1783
01:39:09,200 --> 01:39:12,080
Speaker 1: you do. So I want to thank you, and um,

1784
01:39:12,120 --> 01:39:15,479
Speaker 1: I want everyone to watch Hot Dog, which is premiering

1785
01:39:15,479 --> 01:39:20,120
Speaker 1: with six episodes tonight at midnight a K eight tomorrow

1786
01:39:20,479 --> 01:39:23,719
Speaker 1: UM September, and there will be six more episodes before

1787
01:39:23,720 --> 01:39:26,280
Speaker 1: the end of the year TBD. But yes, this is

1788
01:39:26,280 --> 01:39:28,960
Speaker 1: a twelve episode first season and we are so excited

1789
01:39:29,000 --> 01:39:34,439
Speaker 1: to show him. So that's episode with the song that's

1790
01:39:34,520 --> 01:39:41,400
Speaker 1: kidding Well, that's actually a good live We didn't even

1791
01:39:41,400 --> 01:39:56,840
Speaker 1: talk about gods new video and to hear the rest

1792
01:39:56,840 --> 01:39:58,920
Speaker 1: of that, you can listen to a Lady Guy Guys

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