1 00:00:00,480 --> 00:00:07,600 Speaker 1: Be Around the NFL Podcast doesn't get the Bob Costas choke. 2 00:00:08,320 --> 00:00:11,680 Speaker 1: Welcome to another edition of the Around the NFL Podcast. 3 00:00:13,000 --> 00:00:14,960 Speaker 1: My name is Dan Pants. I come to you from 4 00:00:14,960 --> 00:00:21,200 Speaker 1: a virtual room filled with some heroes, Mark Sessler, Greg Rosenthal, 5 00:00:23,760 --> 00:00:29,160 Speaker 1: the virtual loom. It has been boys for a year 6 00:00:29,840 --> 00:00:32,600 Speaker 1: uh this week. In fact, it was one year ago 7 00:00:34,360 --> 00:00:39,839 Speaker 1: on Saturday that we began the Bunker casts, and it 8 00:00:40,000 --> 00:00:42,320 Speaker 1: was the three of us and of course the great 9 00:00:42,640 --> 00:00:46,559 Speaker 1: late Chris Westling, and I thought on this occasion, we 10 00:00:46,600 --> 00:00:49,000 Speaker 1: did it on a Saturday. No no, but it falls 11 00:00:49,000 --> 00:00:53,640 Speaker 1: on a Saturday, the nie um. I thought to mark 12 00:00:53,720 --> 00:00:58,200 Speaker 1: this um passage of time to just check out how 13 00:00:59,080 --> 00:01:01,640 Speaker 1: how it all sounded when we did our first ever 14 00:01:02,040 --> 00:01:05,640 Speaker 1: Bunker cast with an added bonus of hearing Chris's voice. 15 00:01:05,640 --> 00:01:07,640 Speaker 1: So let's let's hear what it sounded like one year 16 00:01:07,680 --> 00:01:12,080 Speaker 1: ago this week, Welcome to another edition of the Around 17 00:01:12,120 --> 00:01:16,440 Speaker 1: the NFL Podcast, presented by Intuit Quick Books, official sponsor 18 00:01:16,520 --> 00:01:19,360 Speaker 1: of the NFL. My name is Dan Hanzas, and I 19 00:01:19,400 --> 00:01:24,520 Speaker 1: am joined in a city filled with heroes. Mark Cessor, 20 00:01:24,640 --> 00:01:32,440 Speaker 1: Chris Wesley, Beg Rosenthal. Oh my goodness, what is up? Boy? 21 00:01:33,120 --> 00:01:39,600 Speaker 1: This is? This is? This is different territory for uh, well, 22 00:01:39,600 --> 00:01:41,200 Speaker 1: I was gonna say for the podcast, but then let 23 00:01:41,280 --> 00:01:44,000 Speaker 1: me just I'm gonna pull that back, go above the 24 00:01:44,040 --> 00:01:50,280 Speaker 1: tree tops and say human civilization at least in modern culture. 25 00:01:50,600 --> 00:01:54,640 Speaker 1: So here we are, well, I think we should explain 26 00:01:54,680 --> 00:01:58,600 Speaker 1: where we are. We're in five different houses littered across 27 00:01:58,640 --> 00:02:03,320 Speaker 1: the Los Angeles area on some Google hangout that Erica 28 00:02:03,400 --> 00:02:06,840 Speaker 1: tampost He did a great job setting out there. It 29 00:02:07,000 --> 00:02:11,320 Speaker 1: is um yes, Ricky, and welcome back. Ricky. Hollywood rigged 30 00:02:12,120 --> 00:02:15,040 Speaker 1: a temporary set up to allow us to even do that, 31 00:02:15,240 --> 00:02:18,000 Speaker 1: to do a remote show, which we've never done one before. 32 00:02:18,520 --> 00:02:21,400 Speaker 1: And uh, it's really funny as a time capsule boys 33 00:02:21,440 --> 00:02:24,160 Speaker 1: to go back and check it out, because first of all, 34 00:02:24,200 --> 00:02:26,239 Speaker 1: I say at one point, well, we'll be here this week, 35 00:02:26,400 --> 00:02:30,720 Speaker 1: probably back in the studio next week. I also I 36 00:02:30,760 --> 00:02:33,320 Speaker 1: also say, oh, guys, sorry I missed. I didn't realize 37 00:02:33,360 --> 00:02:35,480 Speaker 1: that I had. I missed the previous show, the last 38 00:02:35,520 --> 00:02:38,359 Speaker 1: show at the studio because I had an illness which 39 00:02:38,440 --> 00:02:41,440 Speaker 1: was probably almost definitely the coronavirus that I had picked up, 40 00:02:41,919 --> 00:02:43,959 Speaker 1: but at the time I did not think I didn't 41 00:02:44,000 --> 00:02:47,200 Speaker 1: think that was the case. But it's pretty amazing we're 42 00:02:47,200 --> 00:02:49,639 Speaker 1: still doing this one year later and not amazing in 43 00:02:49,680 --> 00:02:55,200 Speaker 1: a good way. Yeah, I um, I feel uncomfortable hearing that. 44 00:02:55,200 --> 00:02:57,919 Speaker 1: I'm glad it was a small portion. That's the first 45 00:02:57,919 --> 00:03:00,239 Speaker 1: time I've heard my voice on our podcast and the 46 00:03:00,320 --> 00:03:02,880 Speaker 1: last time you played it. It makes me want to puke. 47 00:03:03,040 --> 00:03:06,720 Speaker 1: And I can only imagine, yeah, like just just the naive, 48 00:03:07,080 --> 00:03:10,560 Speaker 1: naivete And I remember I was we were pushing to 49 00:03:10,639 --> 00:03:13,880 Speaker 1: do the Daily Bunker cast. It's like, this is something 50 00:03:13,919 --> 00:03:17,640 Speaker 1: we're gonna like look back and like remember and what 51 00:03:17,639 --> 00:03:20,120 Speaker 1: what a cool like thing that we're gonna stand apart 52 00:03:20,160 --> 00:03:22,640 Speaker 1: and do this and and that's all fine, We'll like 53 00:03:22,680 --> 00:03:24,600 Speaker 1: be doing it together, that's all fine. But I think 54 00:03:24,639 --> 00:03:27,600 Speaker 1: part of that was like a thought of you know, 55 00:03:27,639 --> 00:03:29,600 Speaker 1: it's only gonna be for a certain amount of time, 56 00:03:29,600 --> 00:03:32,399 Speaker 1: a moment of time that we look back on. Um, 57 00:03:32,440 --> 00:03:35,920 Speaker 1: in hindsight, it's like, I don't know, if I if 58 00:03:36,000 --> 00:03:37,200 Speaker 1: if I had known we had been doing it for 59 00:03:37,240 --> 00:03:38,880 Speaker 1: a year, I'd be like, Okay, let's just keep our 60 00:03:38,880 --> 00:03:41,120 Speaker 1: normal schedule. Let's not get too crazy. Well, it was 61 00:03:41,200 --> 00:03:43,280 Speaker 1: it was the start of free agency, and I thought 62 00:03:43,720 --> 00:03:46,360 Speaker 1: we right that that part made sense. Right. Our method 63 00:03:46,480 --> 00:03:49,440 Speaker 1: was to like know what, everyone else was kind of 64 00:03:49,440 --> 00:03:52,120 Speaker 1: shut down, and thanks to Erica and setting it up 65 00:03:52,120 --> 00:03:54,080 Speaker 1: the way we did, I think we went leaned into 66 00:03:54,160 --> 00:03:56,440 Speaker 1: it hard. And I know that, you know, within days 67 00:03:56,520 --> 00:04:00,640 Speaker 1: of Corona landing, I was renting airbnbs and like just 68 00:04:01,240 --> 00:04:05,600 Speaker 1: enjoying the version of it that Let's backtrack a little 69 00:04:05,600 --> 00:04:08,880 Speaker 1: bit because I have been gone a week, Um, so 70 00:04:08,920 --> 00:04:12,000 Speaker 1: what like do you guys realize that the show wouldn't 71 00:04:12,000 --> 00:04:14,440 Speaker 1: have existed if it wasn't for me? And I think 72 00:04:14,760 --> 00:04:16,799 Speaker 1: I think Greg did a great job in that clip, 73 00:04:16,880 --> 00:04:18,720 Speaker 1: you know, actually giving me some credit, and Mark you 74 00:04:18,800 --> 00:04:20,760 Speaker 1: did too, But Dan and I think you you should 75 00:04:20,760 --> 00:04:23,400 Speaker 1: probably jump on now and just kind of, you know, 76 00:04:23,440 --> 00:04:25,800 Speaker 1: talk a little bit of no. I was just I 77 00:04:25,839 --> 00:04:27,640 Speaker 1: was thinking that if we felt like we were boxing there, 78 00:04:27,680 --> 00:04:30,359 Speaker 1: I could have given a LA call or call and 79 00:04:30,400 --> 00:04:36,480 Speaker 1: we could have Okay, well was deleted. It's true amazing, Ricky. 80 00:04:36,520 --> 00:04:39,200 Speaker 1: You were a huge part of getting us running, and 81 00:04:39,200 --> 00:04:41,880 Speaker 1: you helped the entire company because everybody was caught with 82 00:04:41,920 --> 00:04:43,680 Speaker 1: their pants down as it were, right. I mean, the 83 00:04:43,720 --> 00:04:47,120 Speaker 1: pandemics really hurt, you know, the ability to produce podcasts. 84 00:04:47,160 --> 00:04:49,159 Speaker 1: If you look around the country, it's been like no 85 00:04:49,200 --> 00:04:52,600 Speaker 1: one's been able um to overcome this sort of challenge. 86 00:04:52,839 --> 00:04:54,440 Speaker 1: Do you know what kind of work it takes to 87 00:04:54,480 --> 00:04:57,039 Speaker 1: make your nasally annoy You say you want to puke 88 00:04:57,120 --> 00:04:59,159 Speaker 1: when you listen to yourself? What about the thousands and 89 00:04:59,200 --> 00:05:01,080 Speaker 1: thousands of people listen to the show. Do you know 90 00:05:01,120 --> 00:05:02,760 Speaker 1: how much work I have to do so they're not 91 00:05:02,800 --> 00:05:06,240 Speaker 1: puking out their car windows at their houses that you 92 00:05:06,320 --> 00:05:08,760 Speaker 1: auto tuned Greg's voice, Yeah, I mean I have to 93 00:05:09,040 --> 00:05:11,400 Speaker 1: if he's gonna throw digs like, you're gonna get it 94 00:05:11,560 --> 00:05:14,120 Speaker 1: right back. You know, listen, it's like a brother and 95 00:05:14,160 --> 00:05:17,479 Speaker 1: sister of the two of them. And you'll notice also 96 00:05:17,640 --> 00:05:20,279 Speaker 1: that you know, I was listening to the first like 97 00:05:20,360 --> 00:05:22,720 Speaker 1: six or seven minutes, didn't hear a lot from West there, 98 00:05:23,400 --> 00:05:25,919 Speaker 1: And it did make me think, as we're very you know, 99 00:05:27,080 --> 00:05:30,120 Speaker 1: thinking back with West and and I was thinking, how 100 00:05:30,160 --> 00:05:35,120 Speaker 1: like the four of us as a team. If I'm 101 00:05:35,160 --> 00:05:40,680 Speaker 1: like all bombasted and arena rock and Mark is prog rock, 102 00:05:41,000 --> 00:05:43,440 Speaker 1: maybe a jam band depends on what day you get him. 103 00:05:43,520 --> 00:05:47,360 Speaker 1: Greg likes rap, uh and then West West was like jazz. 104 00:05:48,080 --> 00:05:50,279 Speaker 1: You know, he picked his spots and he filled the 105 00:05:50,320 --> 00:05:54,120 Speaker 1: space with like smooth efficiency that was West and he 106 00:05:54,160 --> 00:05:56,800 Speaker 1: would he would get the definitely the highest PFF score 107 00:05:57,400 --> 00:06:01,240 Speaker 1: of the podcast because he didn't he didn't need to 108 00:06:01,240 --> 00:06:05,840 Speaker 1: fill up the space like someone that's talking right now. Yeah, 109 00:06:05,880 --> 00:06:09,040 Speaker 1: he's like, um, you know, he was a big NBA fan. 110 00:06:09,080 --> 00:06:10,600 Speaker 1: I'm becoming more of one. You know if he was 111 00:06:10,640 --> 00:06:13,680 Speaker 1: an NBA play he's like Joel Embiid. It's like he's 112 00:06:13,680 --> 00:06:15,840 Speaker 1: efficient with those minutes, like ficient with you. You give 113 00:06:15,880 --> 00:06:18,640 Speaker 1: him the ball, like he's going to score. I mean, 114 00:06:18,720 --> 00:06:22,599 Speaker 1: you have a He was a Spurs fan because Tim Duncan. 115 00:06:22,720 --> 00:06:26,320 Speaker 1: Maybe he's Tim Duncan. That was a big fundamental of 116 00:06:26,400 --> 00:06:30,360 Speaker 1: the podcast game. Um. Anyway, that that is memory road. 117 00:06:30,360 --> 00:06:33,400 Speaker 1: We ended up doing uh thirty three Bunker Cast. That's 118 00:06:33,400 --> 00:06:35,960 Speaker 1: what they were titled before, just saying oh, this isn't stopping. 119 00:06:35,960 --> 00:06:37,880 Speaker 1: So we stopped calling them Buggler Cast, and here we 120 00:06:37,920 --> 00:06:40,600 Speaker 1: are twelve months later. But we did it daily for 121 00:06:40,920 --> 00:06:43,520 Speaker 1: I think through the draft. That was about the moment 122 00:06:43,520 --> 00:06:45,920 Speaker 1: where we stopped. So that's Mark makes a good point. 123 00:06:45,920 --> 00:06:47,680 Speaker 1: It was free agency that week. That makes sense, and 124 00:06:47,680 --> 00:06:50,320 Speaker 1: we'll be hitting you know, we'll we'll we'll have special 125 00:06:50,320 --> 00:06:52,360 Speaker 1: coverage next week and everything. But to keep it going 126 00:06:52,400 --> 00:06:54,440 Speaker 1: for six more weeks after that. That's maybe how I 127 00:06:54,480 --> 00:06:56,440 Speaker 1: look back, and like, I don't know if that really 128 00:06:56,800 --> 00:07:00,360 Speaker 1: I love. Greg's just um in need, uh sort of 129 00:07:00,400 --> 00:07:02,840 Speaker 1: just the way it is. It's so nostalgic about the 130 00:07:02,839 --> 00:07:06,240 Speaker 1: past and just it's a man just who can't get 131 00:07:06,279 --> 00:07:08,720 Speaker 1: the fond memories out of out of the memory bank 132 00:07:09,360 --> 00:07:14,760 Speaker 1: when you look. It's not about warmth, it's don't you 133 00:07:15,560 --> 00:07:18,920 Speaker 1: Almost everything I do and this is more a personal thing, 134 00:07:19,000 --> 00:07:21,400 Speaker 1: but or but as a group and everything. The only 135 00:07:21,440 --> 00:07:23,440 Speaker 1: thing I look back on and just think and think 136 00:07:23,480 --> 00:07:25,840 Speaker 1: about is the things that could have been better. That's 137 00:07:25,920 --> 00:07:27,760 Speaker 1: maybe a bad way to you know, the things we 138 00:07:27,760 --> 00:07:30,240 Speaker 1: could have done better. I'm joking about doing it every day, 139 00:07:30,280 --> 00:07:32,920 Speaker 1: but just in hindsight, you know, I think we've done 140 00:07:33,040 --> 00:07:37,920 Speaker 1: a few things adequately, to an adequate level. And when 141 00:07:37,920 --> 00:07:39,880 Speaker 1: I and I look back at those shows and I 142 00:07:39,920 --> 00:07:42,000 Speaker 1: did them, I was doing them in my garage, my 143 00:07:42,080 --> 00:07:47,200 Speaker 1: rented garage, um, and I remember I think back of 144 00:07:47,280 --> 00:07:50,160 Speaker 1: those shows that like it felt like there was a 145 00:07:50,160 --> 00:07:52,320 Speaker 1: little bit of safety and numbers because it was a 146 00:07:52,440 --> 00:07:56,480 Speaker 1: very scary time and everything was being turned upside down 147 00:07:56,520 --> 00:07:58,800 Speaker 1: in a way that none of us had ever experienced before. 148 00:07:58,840 --> 00:08:00,440 Speaker 1: And I think that's part of the reason we're like, 149 00:08:00,520 --> 00:08:02,360 Speaker 1: let's do a show every day, because then there was 150 00:08:02,720 --> 00:08:06,200 Speaker 1: the thirty to forty five minutes probably an hour where 151 00:08:06,200 --> 00:08:08,880 Speaker 1: we were, you know, together in life was normal on 152 00:08:09,040 --> 00:08:11,880 Speaker 1: some level. So that's why I think that's absolutely true. 153 00:08:11,960 --> 00:08:14,480 Speaker 1: I'm glad, I'm glad you you said it that way. 154 00:08:14,560 --> 00:08:17,520 Speaker 1: We've done this altogether. We almost take it. We've almost 155 00:08:17,560 --> 00:08:19,480 Speaker 1: are used to it now, we are used to it 156 00:08:20,200 --> 00:08:22,520 Speaker 1: that we've done this. Um, but that's part of the reason, 157 00:08:22,640 --> 00:08:25,320 Speaker 1: you know, Chris is passing. It is part of like 158 00:08:26,800 --> 00:08:30,480 Speaker 1: this year, you know, this crazy pandemic year. My daughter 159 00:08:30,520 --> 00:08:32,920 Speaker 1: is going to go to school next week for ninety 160 00:08:32,920 --> 00:08:35,200 Speaker 1: minutes only for the entire week, by the way, but 161 00:08:35,720 --> 00:08:39,200 Speaker 1: that will be the first time she's in school and 162 00:08:39,320 --> 00:08:42,200 Speaker 1: my son, you know, since since that week, they have 163 00:08:42,320 --> 00:08:44,760 Speaker 1: not been there one since, which was which was also 164 00:08:44,800 --> 00:08:46,880 Speaker 1: a nice little bonus with the podcast. It gave us 165 00:08:47,240 --> 00:08:50,800 Speaker 1: something to do that was not, um, you know, watching 166 00:08:50,840 --> 00:08:53,480 Speaker 1: them while they're not in school. But it is we're 167 00:08:53,520 --> 00:08:55,520 Speaker 1: still so in the middle of it that it's like 168 00:08:55,559 --> 00:08:58,440 Speaker 1: we've gotten used to it, and it's been crazy. It's 169 00:08:58,440 --> 00:09:01,520 Speaker 1: so weird, so weird, and um, you heard Ricky's back 170 00:09:01,559 --> 00:09:03,439 Speaker 1: and we're happy to have Ricky Hollywood back and thank 171 00:09:03,480 --> 00:09:05,679 Speaker 1: you to Stephen Manny for helping out while she was gone. 172 00:09:06,120 --> 00:09:09,200 Speaker 1: Uh Erica sat down with Sarah Thomas, the first female 173 00:09:09,200 --> 00:09:11,680 Speaker 1: official in NFL history. She actually became the first woman 174 00:09:11,880 --> 00:09:15,959 Speaker 1: to officiate a Super Bowl UM last month and uh 175 00:09:16,160 --> 00:09:20,800 Speaker 1: Erica interviewed MS Thomas today and uh in an old mark, 176 00:09:20,840 --> 00:09:24,400 Speaker 1: an old nod to DDFP and how we got our 177 00:09:24,480 --> 00:09:27,520 Speaker 1: humbles start with the a t L debate Club. Ricky 178 00:09:27,559 --> 00:09:29,360 Speaker 1: will be on the back end of the show with 179 00:09:29,400 --> 00:09:32,040 Speaker 1: Sarah Thomas. Looking forward to that, Erica, I know you 180 00:09:32,080 --> 00:09:37,040 Speaker 1: were happy with how it turned out. Estate it was awesome. 181 00:09:37,040 --> 00:09:39,160 Speaker 1: Now she was. She was really cool and we had 182 00:09:39,200 --> 00:09:41,280 Speaker 1: a lot of fun. So people should check it out. 183 00:09:41,280 --> 00:09:43,120 Speaker 1: We're gonna have part I'm sure you'll put it on 184 00:09:43,120 --> 00:09:45,520 Speaker 1: on social too, Ricky, but we'll have it on the 185 00:09:45,559 --> 00:09:48,120 Speaker 1: around the NFL broadcast, which is back. How about that? 186 00:09:48,840 --> 00:09:51,720 Speaker 1: Maybe who knows, maybe all those podcasts help us actually 187 00:09:51,720 --> 00:09:55,480 Speaker 1: get UM a slot on the network. Finally, if we 188 00:09:55,520 --> 00:09:58,280 Speaker 1: have had it during the pandemic, and hopefully that continues 189 00:09:58,600 --> 00:10:01,840 Speaker 1: UM even when they is not a like global catastrophe 190 00:10:01,920 --> 00:10:04,520 Speaker 1: going on. But it's nice. We're there. We're there for good, 191 00:10:04,559 --> 00:10:07,520 Speaker 1: and I hope we're there for good throughout the season 192 00:10:07,559 --> 00:10:09,760 Speaker 1: and everything. Either that or we've been just sort of 193 00:10:09,920 --> 00:10:13,280 Speaker 1: used by the executives to you know, fill time, and 194 00:10:13,320 --> 00:10:15,400 Speaker 1: I hope to be back to normal to get these 195 00:10:15,440 --> 00:10:18,200 Speaker 1: clowns out of here. We got a new commercial, Mark Sauce. 196 00:10:18,280 --> 00:10:20,760 Speaker 1: I'm excited about. They updated, well, they did it. They 197 00:10:20,800 --> 00:10:24,600 Speaker 1: did a nice little update because the previous one, Yeah, 198 00:10:24,600 --> 00:10:27,120 Speaker 1: and the previous one, um, they have me saying like 199 00:10:27,600 --> 00:10:30,520 Speaker 1: you just can never doubt the Patriots or something like that. 200 00:10:30,840 --> 00:10:33,120 Speaker 1: While they were like going they were going, you know, 201 00:10:33,160 --> 00:10:35,559 Speaker 1: deep into into hell. Um. This time around, it's some 202 00:10:35,640 --> 00:10:38,160 Speaker 1: more bland comment that you can't really tell what now 203 00:10:38,160 --> 00:10:42,360 Speaker 1: it's Mark like you always have to doubt the Patriots. 204 00:10:42,360 --> 00:10:45,240 Speaker 1: They just need a site slight edit to update it. 205 00:10:45,679 --> 00:10:47,840 Speaker 1: All right, let's get into it. We have a big 206 00:10:47,880 --> 00:10:52,240 Speaker 1: new show in honor of the Bunker cast Um and 207 00:10:52,360 --> 00:10:54,719 Speaker 1: how we started a year ago. We're just gonna kind 208 00:10:54,720 --> 00:10:58,920 Speaker 1: of rip through some news and then end um with 209 00:10:58,960 --> 00:11:03,079 Speaker 1: a little what you people don't realize As we look 210 00:11:03,120 --> 00:11:07,200 Speaker 1: ahead to free agency, the legal tampering period starts on Monday, 211 00:11:07,280 --> 00:11:10,080 Speaker 1: So let's get into it and do some new starting 212 00:11:10,080 --> 00:11:12,800 Speaker 1: with a big move at quarterback for the Cowboys. That's 213 00:11:12,840 --> 00:11:15,079 Speaker 1: not the way it works. That's not the way it works. 214 00:11:15,559 --> 00:11:20,520 Speaker 1: But we've got some guys that are are circumcised in 215 00:11:20,520 --> 00:11:25,400 Speaker 1: the fly and speaking. But the bottom line is we've 216 00:11:25,440 --> 00:11:32,000 Speaker 1: got it down to the nitty gritty, you know. Jara 217 00:11:32,240 --> 00:11:34,920 Speaker 1: and he had a press conference with people there um 218 00:11:35,000 --> 00:11:37,280 Speaker 1: which was a bit of a return to normality at 219 00:11:37,320 --> 00:11:41,840 Speaker 1: least in Texas, UM, an actual press conference, and he 220 00:11:42,080 --> 00:11:45,560 Speaker 1: and he brought up the circumcising an insect again. If 221 00:11:45,559 --> 00:11:48,239 Speaker 1: you remember a few years back, it was circumcised the mosquito, 222 00:11:48,760 --> 00:11:50,560 Speaker 1: and that wasn't the first time that. Now it's a fly. 223 00:11:51,120 --> 00:11:53,240 Speaker 1: I still don't know what it means. If does anybody 224 00:11:53,280 --> 00:11:56,600 Speaker 1: know what what jarre means. It's an old down South 225 00:11:57,120 --> 00:12:01,840 Speaker 1: um expression and I'm I'm in Texan culture because of 226 00:12:01,880 --> 00:12:03,520 Speaker 1: my marriage, but I still don't know what that is. 227 00:12:04,280 --> 00:12:06,120 Speaker 1: I'd be the last to know. I mean, it feels 228 00:12:06,120 --> 00:12:10,360 Speaker 1: like a completely unnecessary procedure also, but I mean I think, yeah, 229 00:12:10,520 --> 00:12:12,920 Speaker 1: that's the idea. I think that the idea is it's 230 00:12:12,960 --> 00:12:15,400 Speaker 1: saying you don't need to get too deep into the 231 00:12:15,440 --> 00:12:18,760 Speaker 1: weeds here, let's not let's not lose the forest for 232 00:12:18,800 --> 00:12:21,560 Speaker 1: the trees. To use another metaphor, let's not get so 233 00:12:22,080 --> 00:12:26,040 Speaker 1: hyper specific that we're circumcising the mosquito and when we 234 00:12:26,080 --> 00:12:28,760 Speaker 1: really should just be happy we have this great mosquito 235 00:12:29,320 --> 00:12:32,040 Speaker 1: that Dak Prescott that doesn't need to be circumcised. Wait 236 00:12:32,080 --> 00:12:37,400 Speaker 1: a second, that it totally fell apart. Do we say, yeah, 237 00:12:37,520 --> 00:12:39,920 Speaker 1: what is Jerry telling us here? Because sometimes I do 238 00:12:40,000 --> 00:12:43,480 Speaker 1: think people tell on themselves by what they kind of 239 00:12:43,559 --> 00:12:45,960 Speaker 1: notice in others or the phrases that they use. And 240 00:12:46,000 --> 00:12:48,680 Speaker 1: I don't know what he's saying, you know, by always 241 00:12:48,679 --> 00:12:51,240 Speaker 1: bringing up circumcision. It might be something that that he 242 00:12:51,320 --> 00:12:54,640 Speaker 1: has to deal with as a person. That's what I mean. 243 00:12:54,760 --> 00:12:58,720 Speaker 1: That's I'm I'm I'm totally with you, please for social Alright, 244 00:12:58,800 --> 00:13:04,200 Speaker 1: let's get take that. The Cowboys announced with their typical 245 00:13:04,800 --> 00:13:08,000 Speaker 1: uh spectacle that they have resigned Dak Prescott to a 246 00:13:08,040 --> 00:13:10,440 Speaker 1: four year, one hundred and sixty million dollar contract. He 247 00:13:10,440 --> 00:13:13,440 Speaker 1: gets a hundred and twenty six million guaranteed, a no 248 00:13:13,640 --> 00:13:17,640 Speaker 1: trade clause. That's the most. Um What you always have 249 00:13:17,720 --> 00:13:20,640 Speaker 1: to have one record so everybody goes home happy? Is 250 00:13:20,640 --> 00:13:23,400 Speaker 1: the one million guaranteed? The most? Ever? Is that what 251 00:13:23,440 --> 00:13:26,640 Speaker 1: the record Dak got, I believe, so it reset the 252 00:13:26,679 --> 00:13:31,199 Speaker 1: market and it uh keeps Prescott there. He turns twenty 253 00:13:31,240 --> 00:13:33,800 Speaker 1: eight in July, so through his age thirty two season, 254 00:13:34,920 --> 00:13:38,040 Speaker 1: and uh they get the deal done, which Mark I 255 00:13:38,080 --> 00:13:42,880 Speaker 1: think is um good for the Cowboys because Dak is 256 00:13:42,920 --> 00:13:47,320 Speaker 1: a to me, a top ten quarterback. UM. Also good 257 00:13:47,360 --> 00:13:49,079 Speaker 1: for us because we don't have to hear about Dak 258 00:13:49,080 --> 00:13:52,120 Speaker 1: Prescott's contract anymore. I mean, I just think about the 259 00:13:52,160 --> 00:13:54,760 Speaker 1: fact that in you know, four plus games, he threw 260 00:13:54,800 --> 00:13:58,760 Speaker 1: for almost nine hundred yards and how dangerous their offense 261 00:13:58,920 --> 00:14:01,600 Speaker 1: was before he was wiped off the field with that 262 00:14:01,679 --> 00:14:05,160 Speaker 1: terrible injury. I am happy for him because, you know, 263 00:14:05,920 --> 00:14:10,160 Speaker 1: tucked inside an absurd press conference, um and and I 264 00:14:10,240 --> 00:14:13,000 Speaker 1: understand that for I will pause fun that for a second. 265 00:14:13,000 --> 00:14:14,880 Speaker 1: I will just say that I what I liked about 266 00:14:14,880 --> 00:14:17,120 Speaker 1: the press conference was that you really got a sense 267 00:14:17,880 --> 00:14:21,800 Speaker 1: of how the other people inside that building feel about 268 00:14:21,880 --> 00:14:25,160 Speaker 1: Dak Prescott, that they that this is a this he 269 00:14:25,240 --> 00:14:28,840 Speaker 1: has grown as a leader. He is an unquestioned franchise quarterback. 270 00:14:29,280 --> 00:14:32,280 Speaker 1: And I'm just glad that it's that it's finished and done. 271 00:14:32,280 --> 00:14:34,240 Speaker 1: And he said the same thing. Dak Prescott said that 272 00:14:34,240 --> 00:14:36,360 Speaker 1: it meant a lot to have this behind him and 273 00:14:36,400 --> 00:14:39,000 Speaker 1: that you can really it allows you just to focus, 274 00:14:39,000 --> 00:14:41,640 Speaker 1: and I imagine it would and and you know, Stephen 275 00:14:41,720 --> 00:14:44,640 Speaker 1: Jones talked about the fact that the quarterback market everywhere 276 00:14:44,640 --> 00:14:47,800 Speaker 1: else is so um volatile and undecided, that they knew 277 00:14:47,880 --> 00:14:50,640 Speaker 1: they had a sure thing. And so for all those reasons, 278 00:14:50,640 --> 00:14:53,480 Speaker 1: I like it. Um the way that this was handled 279 00:14:53,480 --> 00:14:55,760 Speaker 1: press conference wise, and I and honestly went on for 280 00:14:55,800 --> 00:14:57,960 Speaker 1: an hour and forty five minutes or close to that, 281 00:14:58,680 --> 00:15:02,640 Speaker 1: was highly absurd and and and I don't want to 282 00:15:02,680 --> 00:15:05,920 Speaker 1: be overly cynical because that was just my raw response 283 00:15:05,960 --> 00:15:09,320 Speaker 1: to it after it reached fifty to sixty minutes. UM 284 00:15:09,360 --> 00:15:13,960 Speaker 1: completely unnecessary, outside of the fact that Dak Prescott, you know, 285 00:15:14,600 --> 00:15:17,000 Speaker 1: looking sideways at Jerry Jones when he uttered some of 286 00:15:17,080 --> 00:15:20,280 Speaker 1: his absurd commentaries. Um, but this is the Cowboys. We 287 00:15:20,320 --> 00:15:22,280 Speaker 1: have doing things, but we haven't had a press conference 288 00:15:22,320 --> 00:15:25,240 Speaker 1: like that in Dallas, they said for four hundred days. 289 00:15:25,720 --> 00:15:28,520 Speaker 1: Um Am, I am I being too cynical. I don't 290 00:15:28,560 --> 00:15:31,360 Speaker 1: need that presentation in those bells and with watch it 291 00:15:31,400 --> 00:15:35,000 Speaker 1: then it's not for you, right. But but the fact 292 00:15:35,000 --> 00:15:37,080 Speaker 1: that it that it was tolerated to go on for 293 00:15:37,160 --> 00:15:40,400 Speaker 1: that long. The people and there, I think wanted it 294 00:15:40,440 --> 00:15:43,120 Speaker 1: to you, Like there was no questions or anything. I 295 00:15:43,480 --> 00:15:47,160 Speaker 1: think the nature of a news conferences for the assembled 296 00:15:47,200 --> 00:15:49,880 Speaker 1: media to get what they're looking for, for the team 297 00:15:49,920 --> 00:15:53,560 Speaker 1: to give their version of where they're at, and then 298 00:15:53,840 --> 00:15:57,520 Speaker 1: it gets disseminated in in portions. Now, the fact that 299 00:15:57,560 --> 00:15:59,240 Speaker 1: you use your off day to watch an hour and 300 00:15:59,320 --> 00:16:02,480 Speaker 1: forty five minute I mean, that's kind of on you. Yeah. 301 00:16:02,560 --> 00:16:04,800 Speaker 1: I was not tracking every minute of it, but it 302 00:16:04,840 --> 00:16:07,720 Speaker 1: was just like literally on in our living room, which 303 00:16:07,760 --> 00:16:12,000 Speaker 1: is a rare occurrence. But I came I did. I 304 00:16:12,120 --> 00:16:14,520 Speaker 1: came into the room seven or over the course of 305 00:16:14,560 --> 00:16:16,800 Speaker 1: two hours, and it was still on. I watched. I 306 00:16:16,800 --> 00:16:19,560 Speaker 1: watched ten minutes of it and that was good. Um. 307 00:16:19,720 --> 00:16:22,480 Speaker 1: I think it's it's a cowboys way of doing it. 308 00:16:22,520 --> 00:16:24,480 Speaker 1: And it doesn't surprise me that it bothers you, Mark, 309 00:16:24,560 --> 00:16:27,800 Speaker 1: because you do not like hubrists. You do not like 310 00:16:29,160 --> 00:16:35,720 Speaker 1: um unnecessary self promotion, you know, not necessarily necessarily like 311 00:16:35,880 --> 00:16:40,440 Speaker 1: people that value the almighty buck over having integrity, and 312 00:16:40,480 --> 00:16:43,440 Speaker 1: those are that's the cowboys, Like, that's why they are 313 00:16:43,480 --> 00:16:46,840 Speaker 1: the cowboys. Listening to Jerry Jones, I think, and we 314 00:16:46,840 --> 00:16:48,680 Speaker 1: can get into the specifics I do want to have, 315 00:16:48,760 --> 00:16:51,560 Speaker 1: just like the football and the contract. But jumping off 316 00:16:51,600 --> 00:16:54,240 Speaker 1: you mark, like listening to him, you would get the 317 00:16:54,280 --> 00:16:58,240 Speaker 1: sense that they were an extremely successful franchise over the 318 00:16:58,320 --> 00:17:01,320 Speaker 1: last thirty years, maybe the most and because in his 319 00:17:01,480 --> 00:17:04,240 Speaker 1: mind they are, and in a lot of the way 320 00:17:04,280 --> 00:17:08,560 Speaker 1: that our country values um the world, they are because 321 00:17:08,600 --> 00:17:11,600 Speaker 1: they've made the most money. Like he did refer a 322 00:17:11,600 --> 00:17:13,879 Speaker 1: few times like if there's someone I want to lose 323 00:17:13,920 --> 00:17:17,720 Speaker 1: a you know, um, a contract negotiation to this is 324 00:17:17,720 --> 00:17:19,640 Speaker 1: the guy to my life who's going to take advantage. Please, 325 00:17:19,720 --> 00:17:21,520 Speaker 1: no one believes that you're saying that. You know that 326 00:17:21,560 --> 00:17:24,000 Speaker 1: you're taking advantage of all these players. You've made so 327 00:17:24,119 --> 00:17:26,480 Speaker 1: much money, he said, like you got to overpay. Any 328 00:17:26,480 --> 00:17:28,760 Speaker 1: good deal I've ever made, you gotta overpay. You didn't 329 00:17:28,760 --> 00:17:31,399 Speaker 1: overpay for the Cowboys. It was an incredible thing. They 330 00:17:31,440 --> 00:17:35,280 Speaker 1: print cash, and I think, to Jerry Jones, that is success. 331 00:17:35,359 --> 00:17:37,639 Speaker 1: Of course, he wants to win the Super Bowl, but 332 00:17:37,720 --> 00:17:40,720 Speaker 1: I think he's as competitive or more as a businessman 333 00:17:41,040 --> 00:17:43,800 Speaker 1: and I and the way they run that press conference 334 00:17:43,880 --> 00:17:46,520 Speaker 1: is part of the reason why that's true. And that's fine, 335 00:17:46,560 --> 00:17:48,640 Speaker 1: But as a fan, I don't care about all that. 336 00:17:48,760 --> 00:17:50,919 Speaker 1: So if I'm a Cowboys fan, I'm almost annoyed that 337 00:17:51,040 --> 00:17:53,720 Speaker 1: they see themselves as the team when they're not. They're 338 00:17:53,760 --> 00:17:56,680 Speaker 1: they've been losing. They've been a mediocre team at best 339 00:17:56,720 --> 00:17:59,040 Speaker 1: for thirty years. So I'm with you, Mark on. I mean, 340 00:17:59,040 --> 00:18:00,960 Speaker 1: they haven't gotten to the super Bow in twenty five years, 341 00:18:01,000 --> 00:18:03,840 Speaker 1: and that's that. You can't get past that. And but 342 00:18:04,080 --> 00:18:05,679 Speaker 1: I guess there's a part of it. It's like they 343 00:18:05,720 --> 00:18:08,800 Speaker 1: are the Dallas Cowboys, that they are about spectacle, and 344 00:18:08,840 --> 00:18:11,280 Speaker 1: that's why there's many people who hate the Cowboys, even 345 00:18:11,359 --> 00:18:13,720 Speaker 1: when when they were great and they were backing it 346 00:18:13,840 --> 00:18:16,520 Speaker 1: up with success on the field. It's the star and 347 00:18:16,560 --> 00:18:18,960 Speaker 1: it's the spotlight, and it's look at us, and we 348 00:18:19,000 --> 00:18:21,280 Speaker 1: have the biggest stadium in the biggest place. And again 349 00:18:21,320 --> 00:18:24,679 Speaker 1: a lot of this ties into the the culture of 350 00:18:24,720 --> 00:18:28,280 Speaker 1: the region where they come from. Bigger is better in Texas. 351 00:18:28,359 --> 00:18:30,399 Speaker 1: So I don't know, man, I think it's good to 352 00:18:30,440 --> 00:18:34,200 Speaker 1: have different types of franchises and some that that love 353 00:18:34,240 --> 00:18:36,480 Speaker 1: it and handle things like this, and then there there'll 354 00:18:36,480 --> 00:18:39,040 Speaker 1: be other organizations that I guess the press release will 355 00:18:39,040 --> 00:18:42,440 Speaker 1: suffice and maybe that's minimalist enough for for you. Mark. 356 00:18:42,480 --> 00:18:48,640 Speaker 1: I don't know. Maybe there's maybe there's a ground I'm 357 00:18:48,640 --> 00:18:51,159 Speaker 1: not I'm not like, I think it's fair to note 358 00:18:51,400 --> 00:18:54,199 Speaker 1: that there was an absurdity to it. Um. I'm not 359 00:18:54,320 --> 00:18:57,000 Speaker 1: asking for it to be banned like we're in Communist 360 00:18:57,080 --> 00:19:00,239 Speaker 1: Russia or something. It's fine, it can go on. You're right, 361 00:19:00,320 --> 00:19:02,840 Speaker 1: I don't have to watch it along with thousands of 362 00:19:02,920 --> 00:19:06,200 Speaker 1: out of other totally worthless shows that are out there 363 00:19:06,200 --> 00:19:09,439 Speaker 1: that I don't watch. Um. I'm fine with with a 364 00:19:09,480 --> 00:19:11,720 Speaker 1: couple of organizations being the way they are, and that 365 00:19:11,800 --> 00:19:14,399 Speaker 1: is the Cowboys stamp. But I think that Greg nailed that. 366 00:19:14,480 --> 00:19:17,560 Speaker 1: Here's the problem. He spent like there were like thirty 367 00:19:17,560 --> 00:19:20,439 Speaker 1: mentions of Super Bowl trophies and this and that, and 368 00:19:20,480 --> 00:19:24,080 Speaker 1: it's like, you've been a bad team, You've underperformed, You've 369 00:19:24,080 --> 00:19:26,200 Speaker 1: been a team that gets to the playoffs and never 370 00:19:26,240 --> 00:19:31,280 Speaker 1: gets the job done for a quarter century. There's zero accountability. 371 00:19:31,320 --> 00:19:33,280 Speaker 1: If you're a fan of the Dallas Cowboys, and we 372 00:19:33,320 --> 00:19:35,240 Speaker 1: all know a few, unless you have your head in 373 00:19:35,240 --> 00:19:38,000 Speaker 1: the clouds, you'd have to be furious with this owner 374 00:19:38,200 --> 00:19:40,359 Speaker 1: and the way the team has mostly been run, outside 375 00:19:40,359 --> 00:19:41,920 Speaker 1: of the fact that no matter what they do, they're 376 00:19:41,960 --> 00:19:44,879 Speaker 1: never punished for it. They're put on television thirty times. 377 00:19:45,119 --> 00:19:48,680 Speaker 1: The record is is media. The quarterbacks go on to 378 00:19:48,760 --> 00:19:52,000 Speaker 1: become better announcers than they were quarterbacks. Safe for Troy Aikman, 379 00:19:52,320 --> 00:19:55,360 Speaker 1: I'm tired of it. To Mark's point, and we will 380 00:19:55,400 --> 00:19:57,880 Speaker 1: get to the football that would be great at some point. 381 00:19:58,240 --> 00:20:02,160 Speaker 1: Understand it is interesting though, But to to Mark's point, 382 00:20:02,200 --> 00:20:05,200 Speaker 1: they wouldn't have done that press conference for when Josh 383 00:20:05,200 --> 00:20:08,160 Speaker 1: Allen signs his deal. If Josh Allen talks for one, 384 00:20:09,040 --> 00:20:11,440 Speaker 1: they'll cut away after fifteen minutes. I've seen it. I've 385 00:20:11,480 --> 00:20:14,160 Speaker 1: seen it. I've I've been annoyed by it. Actually when 386 00:20:14,160 --> 00:20:16,760 Speaker 1: they do it too quickly. You know, if it was 387 00:20:17,160 --> 00:20:19,480 Speaker 1: Lamar Jackson when he signs his deal, they'll cut away. 388 00:20:19,520 --> 00:20:21,480 Speaker 1: They're not gonna leave it on TV. But it's because 389 00:20:21,480 --> 00:20:23,439 Speaker 1: people watch it and people go like it, you know, 390 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,720 Speaker 1: and they are they are different and they're they're similar. 391 00:20:26,760 --> 00:20:29,480 Speaker 1: Now that they have this quarterback on their contract for 392 00:20:29,480 --> 00:20:31,440 Speaker 1: forty million, I think it's overrated. That's like, you can't 393 00:20:31,440 --> 00:20:33,920 Speaker 1: build a team around a quarterback with a lot of money. 394 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:36,640 Speaker 1: That that to me is overrated. But it doesn't mean 395 00:20:36,640 --> 00:20:38,920 Speaker 1: that we all weren't right when we first guess two 396 00:20:39,000 --> 00:20:41,199 Speaker 1: years ago that the Cowboys are just gonna end up 397 00:20:41,200 --> 00:20:43,439 Speaker 1: paying way more for dragging this out. This is not 398 00:20:43,560 --> 00:20:46,679 Speaker 1: something we're second guessing. We set if you, if we 399 00:20:46,720 --> 00:20:48,600 Speaker 1: go back and listen to the podcast two years ago, 400 00:20:48,600 --> 00:20:51,000 Speaker 1: we said them dragging their feet is going to cost 401 00:20:51,040 --> 00:20:53,879 Speaker 1: them more money. And the two contracts that have changed 402 00:20:53,920 --> 00:20:57,640 Speaker 1: the quarterback structure the most are Kirk Cousins and Dak Prescott. 403 00:20:57,640 --> 00:20:59,680 Speaker 1: And it's because they got to the franchise tag. Because 404 00:20:59,680 --> 00:21:01,600 Speaker 1: because they got to the second franchise text, so they 405 00:21:01,600 --> 00:21:04,200 Speaker 1: did not self evaluate. That's been something I've been banging 406 00:21:04,240 --> 00:21:06,159 Speaker 1: on this entire time we've ever had a podcast. I 407 00:21:06,200 --> 00:21:10,400 Speaker 1: think it's Jerry Jones' biggest problem. He doesn't know who's 408 00:21:10,400 --> 00:21:12,879 Speaker 1: worth pain or not on his own roster. And I 409 00:21:12,880 --> 00:21:14,880 Speaker 1: think that it cost him a little here. I mean 410 00:21:14,880 --> 00:21:16,800 Speaker 1: not nothing crazy, but if they had just paid him 411 00:21:16,800 --> 00:21:19,240 Speaker 1: a couple of years ago, um, you know, they'd be 412 00:21:19,240 --> 00:21:21,159 Speaker 1: paying him eight or nine million dollars less. They'd have 413 00:21:21,200 --> 00:21:22,800 Speaker 1: a little more or less, you know, a little more 414 00:21:22,800 --> 00:21:25,879 Speaker 1: to spend. The contract seems okay to me. It doesn't 415 00:21:25,920 --> 00:21:29,160 Speaker 1: seem I mean, it's all funny money at a certain point. 416 00:21:29,200 --> 00:21:30,879 Speaker 1: But I did I didn't get the feeling when I 417 00:21:30,960 --> 00:21:33,520 Speaker 1: read the news, like, oh man, this really did screw 418 00:21:33,520 --> 00:21:36,000 Speaker 1: the Cowboys in the end. And a four year deal 419 00:21:36,160 --> 00:21:38,960 Speaker 1: that's I think works for both sides, you know. I 420 00:21:39,119 --> 00:21:41,720 Speaker 1: think about it though, and I know you just said 421 00:21:41,760 --> 00:21:44,200 Speaker 1: you don't put much stock in it, but I think, 422 00:21:44,480 --> 00:21:47,200 Speaker 1: um history backs it up a little bit. Is once 423 00:21:47,200 --> 00:21:50,480 Speaker 1: you do sign that second contract out of your rookie deal, 424 00:21:50,480 --> 00:21:53,399 Speaker 1: it does get harder, um to build a team. It 425 00:21:53,560 --> 00:21:57,560 Speaker 1: just dollars and cents. It's just he was a I believe, 426 00:21:57,600 --> 00:22:01,560 Speaker 1: what was the third round pick, deck four fourth round pick. 427 00:22:02,080 --> 00:22:06,120 Speaker 1: And it's fair to to wonder if Dallas already had 428 00:22:06,119 --> 00:22:08,760 Speaker 1: its best chance to win a Super Bowl with Dak 429 00:22:08,760 --> 00:22:12,280 Speaker 1: Prescott when he was making virtually no money, when they 430 00:22:12,320 --> 00:22:15,199 Speaker 1: had that dominant offensive line and Ezekiel Elliott was at 431 00:22:15,200 --> 00:22:18,200 Speaker 1: the top of his powers, and you have the opportunity 432 00:22:18,200 --> 00:22:20,719 Speaker 1: to use all that extra cap space to build up 433 00:22:20,720 --> 00:22:22,640 Speaker 1: a defense to make a well rounded team. They could 434 00:22:22,680 --> 00:22:25,800 Speaker 1: never do it. They had a couple good years there, um, 435 00:22:25,840 --> 00:22:27,840 Speaker 1: but now they have to go about business in a 436 00:22:27,880 --> 00:22:31,400 Speaker 1: different way. And and getting back to the point, and 437 00:22:31,440 --> 00:22:34,520 Speaker 1: on some level you were saying Mark that with the Cowboys, 438 00:22:34,560 --> 00:22:37,480 Speaker 1: it's it's all sizzle and no steak sometimes. Is it 439 00:22:37,560 --> 00:22:40,159 Speaker 1: going to be different this time? If they've learned lessons, 440 00:22:40,160 --> 00:22:42,679 Speaker 1: are they gonna take this salary, absorb it into their 441 00:22:42,680 --> 00:22:46,400 Speaker 1: cap and be able to now um rebound off last year? 442 00:22:46,680 --> 00:22:49,120 Speaker 1: We'll see, I don't. I think one thing that's fair 443 00:22:49,160 --> 00:22:51,439 Speaker 1: to say is they don't really deserve the benefit of 444 00:22:51,480 --> 00:22:54,399 Speaker 1: the doubt. Uh in terms of team building, it's just 445 00:22:54,480 --> 00:22:56,960 Speaker 1: the results haven't been there. I do say, I do 446 00:22:57,080 --> 00:22:59,760 Speaker 1: think that the addition of Dan quinnant defensive coordinator. I 447 00:22:59,800 --> 00:23:03,280 Speaker 1: know totally flamed out in Atlanta, but the coordinator world 448 00:23:03,359 --> 00:23:05,399 Speaker 1: is just so different. I think that's going to be 449 00:23:05,440 --> 00:23:07,520 Speaker 1: great for them. I mean, they have needs on defense 450 00:23:07,560 --> 00:23:10,399 Speaker 1: and and but all a lot of players that last 451 00:23:10,480 --> 00:23:14,960 Speaker 1: year completely fell off a cliff were better in previous years, 452 00:23:15,040 --> 00:23:17,520 Speaker 1: not under that horrible scheme they were in a year ago. 453 00:23:17,600 --> 00:23:20,240 Speaker 1: And so if that can improve. I do again, look 454 00:23:20,240 --> 00:23:22,919 Speaker 1: at this offense and how productive Dak Prescott was. I mean, 455 00:23:22,960 --> 00:23:26,120 Speaker 1: he was on m v P pace when he got injured. 456 00:23:26,440 --> 00:23:29,000 Speaker 1: Why can't they duplicate that? All those people, for the 457 00:23:29,040 --> 00:23:31,280 Speaker 1: most part, the skilled position players, are all coming back. 458 00:23:31,480 --> 00:23:37,359 Speaker 1: He's an interesting player, DOC because you know, even on 459 00:23:37,400 --> 00:23:39,719 Speaker 1: the show. We've been a little up and down because 460 00:23:39,760 --> 00:23:41,560 Speaker 1: he was so good as a rookie, one of the 461 00:23:41,600 --> 00:23:44,760 Speaker 1: best rookie seasons of all time by a quarterback. Not 462 00:23:44,880 --> 00:23:47,520 Speaker 1: as good the next two years, but his fourth year, 463 00:23:47,760 --> 00:23:50,320 Speaker 1: to me, he was so good that that that proved 464 00:23:50,359 --> 00:23:52,920 Speaker 1: beyond a shadow of a doubt where he was, which 465 00:23:52,960 --> 00:23:55,440 Speaker 1: is as a top you know, eight to ten quarterback, 466 00:23:55,720 --> 00:23:58,080 Speaker 1: maybe even better than that. And then he started last 467 00:23:58,080 --> 00:24:00,320 Speaker 1: season great too. If you could play that in your 468 00:24:00,320 --> 00:24:02,960 Speaker 1: fourth season, I mean, you're legit. But it's interesting. I 469 00:24:03,040 --> 00:24:04,720 Speaker 1: think it was because he was a fourth round pick 470 00:24:05,119 --> 00:24:08,440 Speaker 1: that the Cowboys trusted him ultimately a lot less than 471 00:24:08,720 --> 00:24:12,080 Speaker 1: the Rams trusted Golf and the Eagles trusted Wentz. And 472 00:24:12,119 --> 00:24:14,920 Speaker 1: here is Dak you know, the the last one uh 473 00:24:15,000 --> 00:24:17,840 Speaker 1: standing with his team. I think that the Zeke Elliott 474 00:24:17,840 --> 00:24:19,960 Speaker 1: contract is going to haunt them a hell of a 475 00:24:19,960 --> 00:24:23,040 Speaker 1: lot more. And it already is than a DA one. 476 00:24:23,400 --> 00:24:27,040 Speaker 1: What is how many more guaranteed money years does zekep 477 00:24:27,080 --> 00:24:30,000 Speaker 1: because that feels like the next domino here? How are 478 00:24:30,040 --> 00:24:33,000 Speaker 1: they going to have cap flexibility? Um, now that they 479 00:24:33,000 --> 00:24:35,320 Speaker 1: have Dack under contract to get get out of that 480 00:24:35,440 --> 00:24:38,160 Speaker 1: Zeke contract, but he just signed it last summer, wasn't 481 00:24:38,200 --> 00:24:42,480 Speaker 1: it right? He only has his guaranteed money through this year. 482 00:24:42,760 --> 00:24:45,560 Speaker 1: So actually as even though they would have dead money 483 00:24:45,600 --> 00:24:49,040 Speaker 1: to cut him or trade him, uh next year, like, 484 00:24:49,200 --> 00:24:51,800 Speaker 1: they'd still save money. So he he, he needs to 485 00:24:51,840 --> 00:24:54,760 Speaker 1: play well I think this year to to remain a 486 00:24:54,840 --> 00:24:57,560 Speaker 1: cowboy and keep getting that money. Where does Ezekiel Elliott 487 00:24:57,600 --> 00:25:04,680 Speaker 1: fall on your free agency? One on one, it's a question. 488 00:25:06,680 --> 00:25:10,880 Speaker 1: I'm gonna I'm gonna make a prediction right now next year. 489 00:25:11,800 --> 00:25:13,959 Speaker 1: Al Right, before we go full skip Bayless, let's get 490 00:25:13,960 --> 00:25:15,840 Speaker 1: out of this cowboys talking talk about other things in 491 00:25:15,880 --> 00:25:20,600 Speaker 1: the NFL. Um that the Chiefs are making a big 492 00:25:20,640 --> 00:25:26,960 Speaker 1: move at offensive line, a couple of big moves. They 493 00:25:27,000 --> 00:25:29,960 Speaker 1: have parted ways with both of their starting tackles, former 494 00:25:30,040 --> 00:25:34,159 Speaker 1: number one overall draft pick Eric Fisher veteran Mitchell Schwartz, 495 00:25:34,960 --> 00:25:38,680 Speaker 1: in a moves that saves close to twenty million against 496 00:25:38,760 --> 00:25:43,040 Speaker 1: the salary cap, but puts the Chiefs, the defending a 497 00:25:43,119 --> 00:25:45,359 Speaker 1: f C champions, in a position where they have to 498 00:25:45,400 --> 00:25:49,680 Speaker 1: rebuild their offensive line and two key spots. Greg, I know, 499 00:25:49,920 --> 00:25:53,040 Speaker 1: um uh, there was predictions of a quote unquote massacre 500 00:25:53,640 --> 00:25:56,919 Speaker 1: um which you pooh pooed a little bit um. But 501 00:25:57,040 --> 00:26:01,040 Speaker 1: there's no way really to tell, like whether, um, what 502 00:26:01,200 --> 00:26:03,399 Speaker 1: team's intentions would have been if the salary cap was 503 00:26:03,520 --> 00:26:06,320 Speaker 1: two D instead of one three. I wonder if it 504 00:26:06,480 --> 00:26:09,040 Speaker 1: was if they had more bubble room if both their 505 00:26:09,080 --> 00:26:11,879 Speaker 1: tackles are gone right now. Yeah, I think that's a 506 00:26:11,920 --> 00:26:14,439 Speaker 1: fair question. I think there's gonna be some exceptions that 507 00:26:14,760 --> 00:26:17,359 Speaker 1: a player that would that got cut this year maybe 508 00:26:17,400 --> 00:26:20,560 Speaker 1: wouldn't have been in a normal year. I just didn't 509 00:26:20,560 --> 00:26:24,240 Speaker 1: think that's the exception. But Eric Fisher might be that exception. 510 00:26:24,880 --> 00:26:27,800 Speaker 1: I think schwartz for them to cut him right after 511 00:26:27,840 --> 00:26:30,360 Speaker 1: he had back surgery, they know a lot about his condition. 512 00:26:30,720 --> 00:26:34,000 Speaker 1: He's a four time All Pro. I mean that that 513 00:26:34,119 --> 00:26:36,760 Speaker 1: tells me they just don't think he can return to 514 00:26:36,960 --> 00:26:39,280 Speaker 1: his previous level. And that sounds like something you would 515 00:26:39,320 --> 00:26:42,840 Speaker 1: do regardless. Now, Fisher is young, a little younger, but 516 00:26:42,880 --> 00:26:46,080 Speaker 1: he's coming off a late January Achilles injury, and you 517 00:26:46,119 --> 00:26:47,959 Speaker 1: know he's not going to be the same all season. 518 00:26:48,040 --> 00:26:50,080 Speaker 1: So do you really keep him out? You keep him 519 00:26:50,080 --> 00:26:52,639 Speaker 1: on the roster just for two maybe not in a 520 00:26:52,720 --> 00:26:54,879 Speaker 1: year like this where by the way, the Chiefs I 521 00:26:54,920 --> 00:26:58,920 Speaker 1: think we're you know, among the three or four worst 522 00:26:59,000 --> 00:27:03,200 Speaker 1: position team heading into this period. They they it wasn't 523 00:27:03,240 --> 00:27:04,760 Speaker 1: just the Saint you know, the Saints got a lot 524 00:27:04,760 --> 00:27:07,199 Speaker 1: of attention. The Chiefs were in a tough spot, but 525 00:27:07,240 --> 00:27:09,280 Speaker 1: they didn't have a lot of logical moves. You know, 526 00:27:09,359 --> 00:27:12,720 Speaker 1: they're gonna push money around and uh I put them 527 00:27:12,720 --> 00:27:15,199 Speaker 1: on like potential surprise cuts. But I thought it'd be 528 00:27:15,200 --> 00:27:17,360 Speaker 1: one or the other, Schwartz or Fisher, and for them 529 00:27:17,400 --> 00:27:19,680 Speaker 1: to do it both. They only have one starter remaining 530 00:27:20,119 --> 00:27:22,240 Speaker 1: from their offensive line that won the Super Bowl, and 531 00:27:22,280 --> 00:27:25,800 Speaker 1: that was DuVernay Tardif my Miguel guy who sat out 532 00:27:25,880 --> 00:27:27,640 Speaker 1: last year. He's the only one left off of their 533 00:27:27,640 --> 00:27:30,280 Speaker 1: Super Bowl offensive line, which is crazy. That's why I 534 00:27:30,320 --> 00:27:33,840 Speaker 1: think you're still gonna see free agent lineman get paid. Um, 535 00:27:33,880 --> 00:27:36,760 Speaker 1: but if you're the Chiefs, you know you're you're you 536 00:27:36,840 --> 00:27:39,760 Speaker 1: have to turn around and pay people like instead of 537 00:27:39,760 --> 00:27:42,680 Speaker 1: paying these two. I think it's health related on for 538 00:27:42,800 --> 00:27:45,680 Speaker 1: Mitchell Schwartz too, because there's been whispers that he might retire. 539 00:27:46,240 --> 00:27:49,160 Speaker 1: I mean it was during that Super Bowl run where 540 00:27:49,320 --> 00:27:51,399 Speaker 1: you know, Gordon, according to any metrics you look at, 541 00:27:51,440 --> 00:27:54,680 Speaker 1: he had one of the greatest playoff journeys of any 542 00:27:54,760 --> 00:27:58,800 Speaker 1: right tackle ever. He was flawless for them two seasons ago. 543 00:27:58,960 --> 00:28:01,600 Speaker 1: So they idea that we're now in a place where 544 00:28:01,600 --> 00:28:04,160 Speaker 1: the Chiefs have to rebuild from scratch and you gotta 545 00:28:04,240 --> 00:28:06,160 Speaker 1: nail it because bottom line, I know it's a one 546 00:28:06,200 --> 00:28:08,720 Speaker 1: game sample, but what happened to them, what happened to 547 00:28:08,760 --> 00:28:12,679 Speaker 1: Patrick Mahomes in that entire offense with a with a compromised, 548 00:28:12,960 --> 00:28:15,280 Speaker 1: banged up offensive line and neither one of those two 549 00:28:15,320 --> 00:28:18,480 Speaker 1: tackles in the game. They were boring, They were not 550 00:28:18,640 --> 00:28:22,600 Speaker 1: fun to watch, They were unproductive and mistake prone. Uh, 551 00:28:22,680 --> 00:28:24,840 Speaker 1: your offensive line goes away, you're in hot water. I 552 00:28:24,840 --> 00:28:27,760 Speaker 1: don't care who you are against the mediocre defense and 553 00:28:27,800 --> 00:28:30,359 Speaker 1: pass rush. The greatness of Mahomes is going to cover 554 00:28:30,440 --> 00:28:32,000 Speaker 1: up a lot of warts. But as you can see, 555 00:28:32,040 --> 00:28:36,160 Speaker 1: when the competition steps up, you're highly vulnerable. And um, 556 00:28:36,200 --> 00:28:38,080 Speaker 1: that's why the Chiefs got blown out in the Super 557 00:28:38,160 --> 00:28:40,920 Speaker 1: They feel more vulnerable. And you know, everyone said like 558 00:28:40,960 --> 00:28:43,640 Speaker 1: they're just gonna, you know, keep soaring year after year, 559 00:28:43,680 --> 00:28:46,320 Speaker 1: and I always think it's it's really tough. Every year 560 00:28:46,440 --> 00:28:48,560 Speaker 1: is different, um, and they're still going to be one 561 00:28:48,560 --> 00:28:51,280 Speaker 1: of the favorites, but they do feel they're gonna go 562 00:28:51,320 --> 00:28:54,360 Speaker 1: into this season feeling more vulnerable, feeling like one of 563 00:28:54,400 --> 00:28:57,320 Speaker 1: the pack of four or five or seven teams instead 564 00:28:57,400 --> 00:29:00,280 Speaker 1: of being the one that stands apart. People gotta stopped 565 00:29:00,280 --> 00:29:02,760 Speaker 1: writing that article the week after the team wins the 566 00:29:02,760 --> 00:29:06,520 Speaker 1: Super Bowl. You know, Team blank just lifted the Lombardy 567 00:29:06,880 --> 00:29:09,120 Speaker 1: and there's no reason to think they won't keep winning. 568 00:29:09,160 --> 00:29:13,520 Speaker 1: It's like it's hard to retain a roster to bring 569 00:29:13,600 --> 00:29:16,080 Speaker 1: in fresh talent when your draft pick is a premium 570 00:29:16,120 --> 00:29:18,040 Speaker 1: and your cap is in a tough spot. You have 571 00:29:18,080 --> 00:29:21,240 Speaker 1: so much great talent on your roster. Stop assuming things, 572 00:29:21,800 --> 00:29:23,640 Speaker 1: all right, let's move. When's the last time a team 573 00:29:23,680 --> 00:29:28,880 Speaker 1: repeated a Super Bowl champion? Greg knows? Maybe? Yeah, well 574 00:29:28,960 --> 00:29:36,280 Speaker 1: your memories, oh three oh four? They break all the rules? 575 00:29:36,840 --> 00:29:39,120 Speaker 1: And when what before the Pats? Who was the last 576 00:29:39,160 --> 00:29:46,640 Speaker 1: repeat champion? Cowboys? Right? The Broncos, the Broncos and um 577 00:29:46,680 --> 00:29:49,760 Speaker 1: and the Seahawks. To be fair, we're a Malcolm Butler 578 00:29:50,320 --> 00:29:52,400 Speaker 1: interception away that would have been back to back right 579 00:29:52,480 --> 00:29:56,160 Speaker 1: and would have been Broncos fans would have absolutely killed 580 00:29:56,280 --> 00:30:00,480 Speaker 1: us if you didn't correct. Well, I would one quick 581 00:30:00,480 --> 00:30:03,400 Speaker 1: thing about those, because it's all you have. Broncos. Broncos 582 00:30:03,440 --> 00:30:07,360 Speaker 1: team is one of the most underrated Super Bowl juggernauts around. 583 00:30:07,400 --> 00:30:09,920 Speaker 1: I think they just get forgotten because there were all 584 00:30:09,960 --> 00:30:14,720 Speaker 1: these NFC dining sit around. That team was absolutely unstoppable, right, please, 585 00:30:14,760 --> 00:30:17,440 Speaker 1: Mark Jets ruppen nothing in the third quarter of a 586 00:30:17,520 --> 00:30:19,200 Speaker 1: f C title game. Don't bring that up. It hurts 587 00:30:19,240 --> 00:30:21,080 Speaker 1: a great year though. He's right there, you were a 588 00:30:21,160 --> 00:30:23,800 Speaker 1: great That was hurt. You're gonna have your close games, 589 00:30:24,160 --> 00:30:26,560 Speaker 1: you know, in the playoffs here and there. But he's right, 590 00:30:26,640 --> 00:30:28,760 Speaker 1: that team was. I did not do that as an 591 00:30:28,800 --> 00:30:33,440 Speaker 1: anti Jets. If we if we get past the Broncos, 592 00:30:33,600 --> 00:30:37,920 Speaker 1: we have the Falcons on two week break with Bill 593 00:30:38,000 --> 00:30:41,080 Speaker 1: Belichick as the d C and Bill Parcels a head coach, 594 00:30:41,600 --> 00:30:44,400 Speaker 1: we walk into the La Morney. Anyway here, you would 595 00:30:44,400 --> 00:30:47,120 Speaker 1: have won that game. All right, Let's move on. The Saints. 596 00:30:47,160 --> 00:30:49,320 Speaker 1: They make some moves. They're always trying to get under 597 00:30:49,400 --> 00:30:52,560 Speaker 1: the cap, and this year it's they're making some painful moves. 598 00:30:52,560 --> 00:30:56,920 Speaker 1: Emmanuel Sanders Um he gets cut, as does so the 599 00:30:56,960 --> 00:31:04,160 Speaker 1: wide receiver, and Kwan Alexander the linebacker. Both Um heading 600 00:31:04,160 --> 00:31:07,680 Speaker 1: out the door saves four million dollars by cutting Sanders 601 00:31:07,920 --> 00:31:10,640 Speaker 1: thirteen million saved against the cap. Getting rid of Kwan 602 00:31:10,680 --> 00:31:14,400 Speaker 1: Alexander who's making his way back from an achilles injury 603 00:31:14,440 --> 00:31:18,440 Speaker 1: in December. Alexander just twenty six many um in his 604 00:31:18,520 --> 00:31:22,040 Speaker 1: early thirties, and was I thought effective with them considering 605 00:31:22,080 --> 00:31:25,760 Speaker 1: their QB issues with injuries this year. I'm sure he'll 606 00:31:25,840 --> 00:31:28,320 Speaker 1: He'll get work. They both will. Uh, the Saints have 607 00:31:28,560 --> 00:31:32,720 Speaker 1: some work to do. They do, and neither was a 608 00:31:32,760 --> 00:31:35,560 Speaker 1: surprise to me. I don't think the Saints have done 609 00:31:36,080 --> 00:31:41,200 Speaker 1: anything surprising this offseason except for tag Marcus Williams that 610 00:31:41,280 --> 00:31:43,760 Speaker 1: they their safety, which we'll get to, but you know 611 00:31:43,800 --> 00:31:45,720 Speaker 1: that the other tags, but that that was surprising to 612 00:31:45,760 --> 00:31:47,760 Speaker 1: me because that's gonna cost him ten millions shows how 613 00:31:47,840 --> 00:31:50,200 Speaker 1: much they value him. Uh, it's been fun to kind 614 00:31:50,200 --> 00:31:52,080 Speaker 1: of follow. This is my idea of fun. You know, 615 00:31:52,160 --> 00:31:54,840 Speaker 1: over the cap their cap space page, it's like it's 616 00:31:54,880 --> 00:31:57,160 Speaker 1: like the Saints were at two hundred and seventy million 617 00:31:57,160 --> 00:31:59,080 Speaker 1: dollars over the cabin. Like each day it just comes 618 00:31:59,080 --> 00:32:01,960 Speaker 1: down a little more out it's down under thirty and 619 00:32:01,960 --> 00:32:04,040 Speaker 1: and they haven't they haven't made a move yet. That 620 00:32:04,320 --> 00:32:07,840 Speaker 1: is surprising. One thing I have heard um from some 621 00:32:07,920 --> 00:32:09,840 Speaker 1: of the you know that I that I wonder about 622 00:32:10,280 --> 00:32:13,280 Speaker 1: two is just is is a Michael Tom Michael Thomas 623 00:32:13,280 --> 00:32:16,400 Speaker 1: trade to me would be the one big surprise move 624 00:32:16,440 --> 00:32:18,520 Speaker 1: they could make, because I'm not sure what else they're 625 00:32:18,520 --> 00:32:20,160 Speaker 1: gonna do to get under the cap. Maybe it's just 626 00:32:20,280 --> 00:32:22,280 Speaker 1: moving money around, but that is it would be a 627 00:32:22,280 --> 00:32:25,320 Speaker 1: move that I wouldn't totally shock me. Makes a little sense. 628 00:32:25,400 --> 00:32:27,240 Speaker 1: Maybe a trade to right, that's what I mean, a 629 00:32:27,320 --> 00:32:30,000 Speaker 1: trade Michael Thomas trade where you get that contract off 630 00:32:30,040 --> 00:32:32,400 Speaker 1: the books. He'd certainly have suitors if they wanted to do. 631 00:32:32,440 --> 00:32:34,960 Speaker 1: I think he would have suitors. But there is some 632 00:32:35,040 --> 00:32:37,400 Speaker 1: buzz on the streets that he's a bit of a 633 00:32:37,440 --> 00:32:39,800 Speaker 1: pain in the ass on a high level. Is that 634 00:32:39,880 --> 00:32:43,640 Speaker 1: somebody you want to bring in. There's proof of that 635 00:32:43,720 --> 00:32:47,000 Speaker 1: a year ago too. I mean there were cuting Norris 636 00:32:47,080 --> 00:32:50,520 Speaker 1: Jenkins too, Jack Rabbit, he was good, he'll get it, 637 00:32:50,560 --> 00:32:53,040 Speaker 1: he'll get a contract. He was gonna twenty four million 638 00:32:53,120 --> 00:32:55,360 Speaker 1: over about that at this point or over the cap there. 639 00:32:55,520 --> 00:32:57,080 Speaker 1: And so it does to your point where it's like 640 00:32:57,400 --> 00:33:01,120 Speaker 1: everyone's gonna get under. But I mean they've had to 641 00:33:01,160 --> 00:33:03,840 Speaker 1: cut they the Saints to me move out of like 642 00:33:04,000 --> 00:33:07,400 Speaker 1: super Bowl window territory entirely. In my book, I want 643 00:33:07,400 --> 00:33:08,760 Speaker 1: to see I want to see what they end up with. 644 00:33:08,960 --> 00:33:11,080 Speaker 1: They always find a way, and so far they haven't. 645 00:33:11,200 --> 00:33:13,400 Speaker 1: I wouldn't be surprised if Generes Jenkins is back, Like 646 00:33:13,440 --> 00:33:15,240 Speaker 1: that contract was signed with the Giants, he was not 647 00:33:15,320 --> 00:33:17,560 Speaker 1: making thirteen million in any season. It reminds me a 648 00:33:17,600 --> 00:33:19,720 Speaker 1: little bit of Carlos Dunlop, where like you could see 649 00:33:19,760 --> 00:33:22,320 Speaker 1: him back on the same team, but just for seven 650 00:33:22,400 --> 00:33:26,280 Speaker 1: or eight million or something like that. What do you have, um, 651 00:33:26,400 --> 00:33:30,080 Speaker 1: Greg for the Saints? If Jamis Winston is the starter, 652 00:33:30,240 --> 00:33:34,280 Speaker 1: You've got nineteen and oh, eighteen and one, seventeen and two, Like, 653 00:33:34,320 --> 00:33:36,720 Speaker 1: where do you come down? Well, that's what I'm hoping for. 654 00:33:36,960 --> 00:33:40,080 Speaker 1: Or I don't really want Winston with the Patriots because 655 00:33:40,120 --> 00:33:42,800 Speaker 1: I think that would go poorly, But I kind of 656 00:33:42,840 --> 00:33:45,600 Speaker 1: just want to see it out of curiosity. I'm gonna 657 00:33:45,640 --> 00:33:48,480 Speaker 1: go eleven and five with Jamis um but a nice 658 00:33:48,480 --> 00:33:51,239 Speaker 1: playoff run, the type of you know, playoff performance. They 659 00:33:51,240 --> 00:33:54,680 Speaker 1: haven't gotten enough out of their quarterbacks lately. So the 660 00:33:54,760 --> 00:33:57,880 Speaker 1: upshot is Drew Brees exits and everything starts to become 661 00:33:57,920 --> 00:34:00,800 Speaker 1: productive again. You know, I'm love it. And five is 662 00:34:00,800 --> 00:34:03,800 Speaker 1: technically a worse record than they've had, but yeah, in January. 663 00:34:03,840 --> 00:34:06,080 Speaker 1: That's when we haven't seen it, but that's when you 664 00:34:06,080 --> 00:34:10,680 Speaker 1: see that that's Jamis. I work under that assumption as well. Uh. 665 00:34:10,760 --> 00:34:14,440 Speaker 1: In other news, the Buffalo Bills part ways with John Brown, 666 00:34:14,719 --> 00:34:19,040 Speaker 1: their deep threat wide receiver who you know, always a 667 00:34:19,080 --> 00:34:22,160 Speaker 1: West favorite John Brown. In fact, I was just thinking 668 00:34:22,200 --> 00:34:25,400 Speaker 1: how Norris Jenkins West always just referred to him as 669 00:34:25,480 --> 00:34:30,000 Speaker 1: Jack Rabbit, just you know, conversationally, always referred to John 670 00:34:30,000 --> 00:34:33,000 Speaker 1: Brown as smoke. Uh. And it made me think that 671 00:34:33,120 --> 00:34:35,920 Speaker 1: despite the ankle injuries and injuries in general for Brown, 672 00:34:36,480 --> 00:34:39,560 Speaker 1: h he could be somebody's bargain at the right phrase 673 00:34:39,680 --> 00:34:41,960 Speaker 1: in free agency. Because if West believes it, and I 674 00:34:42,000 --> 00:34:45,000 Speaker 1: know West would say that, um, then I believe it. 675 00:34:46,160 --> 00:34:47,880 Speaker 1: I would point to the fact that, like I know, 676 00:34:48,000 --> 00:34:51,120 Speaker 1: last year he played in what nine games, but in 677 00:34:51,160 --> 00:34:54,520 Speaker 1: the previous two seasons he missed to combine too, So 678 00:34:54,719 --> 00:34:57,640 Speaker 1: it's not been all injuries all along. But he had 679 00:34:57,680 --> 00:35:01,560 Speaker 1: the sickle cell situation and saved some seven point nine million. 680 00:35:01,600 --> 00:35:02,920 Speaker 1: And I think if you look at the Bills a 681 00:35:03,000 --> 00:35:06,400 Speaker 1: little bit, um like they didn't franchise tag Matt Milano, 682 00:35:06,440 --> 00:35:08,200 Speaker 1: I think it's because they're gonna turn around and have 683 00:35:08,360 --> 00:35:10,359 Speaker 1: to spend some money. And I look at their offensive line. 684 00:35:10,400 --> 00:35:14,320 Speaker 1: It's one area where they've got guys leaving the building 685 00:35:14,480 --> 00:35:18,560 Speaker 1: and they can't just You've got Darryl Williams gone, John Fluiciana, 686 00:35:18,640 --> 00:35:20,640 Speaker 1: Like you're gonna have to replace these bodies. There's a 687 00:35:21,040 --> 00:35:23,359 Speaker 1: couple of playoff teams out here with with who're gonna 688 00:35:23,360 --> 00:35:26,239 Speaker 1: be chasing offensive lineman? Yeah, I want. I would want 689 00:35:26,280 --> 00:35:29,040 Speaker 1: my team, And if your team signs John Brown, I'd 690 00:35:29,040 --> 00:35:31,719 Speaker 1: be excited. I mean with you're right about West. He 691 00:35:31,800 --> 00:35:33,840 Speaker 1: saw that in him right off the bat when he 692 00:35:33,880 --> 00:35:37,120 Speaker 1: was a fourth receiver in in Arizona. Uh and he 693 00:35:37,160 --> 00:35:40,000 Speaker 1: could not have been uh more on point. I think 694 00:35:40,040 --> 00:35:41,880 Speaker 1: it was a difference maker. Last year when he played, 695 00:35:42,000 --> 00:35:43,440 Speaker 1: he was hurt. I mean, look, he had a he 696 00:35:43,480 --> 00:35:45,880 Speaker 1: had a nice playoff game. I forget which one it was. 697 00:35:45,920 --> 00:35:48,920 Speaker 1: I think it was it was their divisional round win 698 00:35:49,000 --> 00:35:53,000 Speaker 1: over the Browns. Like he's pure speed, he's he's he's 699 00:35:53,040 --> 00:35:56,680 Speaker 1: got subtle, you know skills. He's just banged up and 700 00:35:56,680 --> 00:35:58,719 Speaker 1: he's a small guy. But I would love to get 701 00:35:58,800 --> 00:36:01,000 Speaker 1: him if I was another team. I'm trying to think 702 00:36:01,000 --> 00:36:04,920 Speaker 1: of a contender that was missing that type of president. 703 00:36:04,960 --> 00:36:08,439 Speaker 1: How about the Ravens going back to the Ravens where 704 00:36:08,440 --> 00:36:11,400 Speaker 1: he had a nice season for them before you alright, 705 00:36:11,640 --> 00:36:16,399 Speaker 1: uh in other news, franchise tag, Greg, you were very 706 00:36:16,400 --> 00:36:18,799 Speaker 1: concerned about the franchise tag and the timing of it 707 00:36:18,880 --> 00:36:21,359 Speaker 1: and whether it would be pushed back or not. It wasn't. 708 00:36:21,480 --> 00:36:23,760 Speaker 1: It went down as scheduled and a bunch of players 709 00:36:23,800 --> 00:36:26,480 Speaker 1: got tagged. In A bunch of players didn't that you 710 00:36:26,560 --> 00:36:29,480 Speaker 1: thought could so. Chris Godwin of the Bucks, uh, he 711 00:36:29,520 --> 00:36:32,360 Speaker 1: gets the tag. Marcus Williams is Greg mentioned the Saints, 712 00:36:32,400 --> 00:36:35,200 Speaker 1: Marcus May the safety for the Jets. Among ten ten 713 00:36:35,239 --> 00:36:38,560 Speaker 1: players tagged, uh not tagged, And this is a little 714 00:36:38,560 --> 00:36:41,920 Speaker 1: bit more interesting obviously, because these players are hitting free 715 00:36:41,960 --> 00:36:44,560 Speaker 1: agency and there's a pretty decent chance uh, they will 716 00:36:44,560 --> 00:36:51,240 Speaker 1: be playing elsewhere. One Kenny Golladay with the Lions, Aaron Jones, Hunter, 717 00:36:51,360 --> 00:36:56,120 Speaker 1: Henry Matthew, jude On Shack Lawson not tagged. Golladay jumps 718 00:36:56,120 --> 00:36:59,160 Speaker 1: out to me, I wanted to um start there because 719 00:37:00,840 --> 00:37:05,400 Speaker 1: you really get the feeling that Jared Goff's in a 720 00:37:05,400 --> 00:37:08,400 Speaker 1: lot of trouble here uh in Detroit, like a lot. 721 00:37:08,440 --> 00:37:13,520 Speaker 1: And I wonder if I wonder if he um came 722 00:37:13,560 --> 00:37:16,879 Speaker 1: to realize that now when he learned that Golliday wasn't 723 00:37:16,920 --> 00:37:18,800 Speaker 1: come back because Keny Gali is a big time receiver 724 00:37:18,840 --> 00:37:21,120 Speaker 1: and he was injured last year. But he was a 725 00:37:21,160 --> 00:37:24,640 Speaker 1: guy I think I even wrote in a faulty column 726 00:37:25,280 --> 00:37:27,480 Speaker 1: over the summer last year that he was primed to 727 00:37:27,560 --> 00:37:30,799 Speaker 1: join the Superstar Club, um and it just didn't work 728 00:37:30,800 --> 00:37:33,640 Speaker 1: out for him. But he he's gonna be really uh 729 00:37:34,000 --> 00:37:36,560 Speaker 1: talented quality player for whatever team he ends up with. 730 00:37:36,760 --> 00:37:38,600 Speaker 1: And it makes me think that God is just like 731 00:37:38,640 --> 00:37:41,680 Speaker 1: a Patsy being set up to fail for a team 732 00:37:41,719 --> 00:37:45,520 Speaker 1: that can absorb his contract as they plan for tomorrow 733 00:37:45,560 --> 00:37:48,359 Speaker 1: without him. They got these two first round picks from 734 00:37:48,400 --> 00:37:51,520 Speaker 1: the Rams. Uh, they say, you know what, We're not 735 00:37:51,560 --> 00:37:54,759 Speaker 1: trying to win, so this hideous salary that goth has 736 00:37:54,840 --> 00:37:57,120 Speaker 1: is not a problem for the time being. And then 737 00:37:57,320 --> 00:37:59,480 Speaker 1: we're gonna go to and fourteen. We are the two 738 00:37:59,560 --> 00:38:01,640 Speaker 1: we are Jags of last year, were the Jets of 739 00:38:01,719 --> 00:38:03,759 Speaker 1: last year. We're gonna get the number one pick. We're 740 00:38:03,760 --> 00:38:05,759 Speaker 1: gonna be loaded up, and we're gonna be in the 741 00:38:05,800 --> 00:38:10,320 Speaker 1: catbird seat like Joe Douglas is this year, and and 742 00:38:10,320 --> 00:38:13,040 Speaker 1: and we're gonna roll and Jared Goff's just gonna be 743 00:38:13,160 --> 00:38:15,920 Speaker 1: left holding the bag here as bag of money, but 744 00:38:16,000 --> 00:38:19,720 Speaker 1: that's always gonna have So Golladay not being around most 745 00:38:19,760 --> 00:38:22,520 Speaker 1: likely is very bad news for Jared Goff. There is 746 00:38:22,560 --> 00:38:26,239 Speaker 1: whispers that the Dolphins and the Giants are hot on 747 00:38:26,440 --> 00:38:30,160 Speaker 1: Kenny Galady. I think you diagnose the Lions situation perfectly. 748 00:38:30,360 --> 00:38:33,840 Speaker 1: It's like he there was no the Lions weren't seeking 749 00:38:33,920 --> 00:38:37,160 Speaker 1: Jared Goff as a destination future quarterback. I think that 750 00:38:37,200 --> 00:38:40,840 Speaker 1: there is an agreement between Dan Campbell and ownership that 751 00:38:40,960 --> 00:38:43,160 Speaker 1: this is a deep rebuild. We're not gonna try to 752 00:38:43,239 --> 00:38:45,319 Speaker 1: just float along as seven and nine for the next 753 00:38:45,320 --> 00:38:48,360 Speaker 1: three hundred years. But cut it down to the studs 754 00:38:48,520 --> 00:38:50,960 Speaker 1: and they've acquired all these draft picks. I think that 755 00:38:51,000 --> 00:38:53,560 Speaker 1: was what the move was right and there they'll get 756 00:38:53,600 --> 00:38:58,720 Speaker 1: one more assuming Golladay stays healthy, um as a compensatory 757 00:38:58,880 --> 00:39:02,240 Speaker 1: third round pick, you know when when he signs elsewhere. 758 00:39:02,280 --> 00:39:05,000 Speaker 1: Still surprised me. Was the biggest surprise to me, just 759 00:39:05,040 --> 00:39:08,120 Speaker 1: because I was told, you know that people that are 760 00:39:08,440 --> 00:39:11,279 Speaker 1: had you know, people were guessing, you know, are Ian 761 00:39:11,320 --> 00:39:14,239 Speaker 1: rapport kind of reported it's gonna happen. Um. So I 762 00:39:14,280 --> 00:39:17,640 Speaker 1: wonder if they didn't see a trade market for him. 763 00:39:17,640 --> 00:39:19,600 Speaker 1: As a tag and trade, and they just decided, why 764 00:39:19,680 --> 00:39:21,879 Speaker 1: why would we pay seventeen million dollars to a guy 765 00:39:21,920 --> 00:39:24,040 Speaker 1: when we're as you mentioned, I think, Dan, you hit 766 00:39:24,120 --> 00:39:26,560 Speaker 1: it on the head with Goff and the Lions when 767 00:39:26,600 --> 00:39:29,440 Speaker 1: we're not really looking to win this year. I guess 768 00:39:29,440 --> 00:39:31,959 Speaker 1: it doesn't make sense, but it stinks. You know, they've 769 00:39:31,960 --> 00:39:36,240 Speaker 1: only drafted so many good players and I love Goladay. Uh. 770 00:39:36,480 --> 00:39:38,520 Speaker 1: The Giants make so much sense to me. I mean, 771 00:39:38,520 --> 00:39:41,320 Speaker 1: the Dolphins would two it really any teams, many teams 772 00:39:42,880 --> 00:39:45,200 Speaker 1: receiver with a high ceiling. I think he's twenty six 773 00:39:45,280 --> 00:39:46,839 Speaker 1: years old. Uh. And by the way, do you think 774 00:39:46,840 --> 00:39:49,480 Speaker 1: when Dan Campbell was talking about biting kneecaps, he was 775 00:39:49,520 --> 00:39:53,000 Speaker 1: talking about Jared Goff is one of those people. You'd 776 00:39:53,000 --> 00:39:55,120 Speaker 1: have to factor that in at this point that maybe 777 00:39:55,200 --> 00:39:57,799 Speaker 1: one of the targets he did talk about, like completely 778 00:39:57,840 --> 00:40:00,799 Speaker 1: rebuilding and it was pretty honest about and yeah, when 779 00:40:00,800 --> 00:40:02,680 Speaker 1: you let the I have got a day seventh on 780 00:40:02,760 --> 00:40:06,359 Speaker 1: my list. Uh, that was a shock to me. And 781 00:40:06,480 --> 00:40:10,200 Speaker 1: the other one um that really surprised me was cam 782 00:40:10,280 --> 00:40:11,960 Speaker 1: Rock was Aaron Jones. By the way, I was a 783 00:40:12,000 --> 00:40:14,200 Speaker 1: little surprised he's number three on my list. That they 784 00:40:14,239 --> 00:40:16,239 Speaker 1: didn't just want to pay him eight million dollars. We'll see, 785 00:40:16,239 --> 00:40:18,840 Speaker 1: maybe he'll return there. There's some buzz about that. But 786 00:40:18,920 --> 00:40:21,799 Speaker 1: then Cam Robinson getting tagged by the Jaggars really surprised me. 787 00:40:21,840 --> 00:40:23,680 Speaker 1: So I think they're the opposite of the Lions, which 788 00:40:23,680 --> 00:40:26,480 Speaker 1: is I think they're gonna spend stupid money. They have 789 00:40:26,520 --> 00:40:30,120 Speaker 1: the most cap space. They just seem like they're desperate 790 00:40:30,120 --> 00:40:33,560 Speaker 1: to win. Now, Urban Meyer and and Trent balkis back, 791 00:40:33,600 --> 00:40:35,480 Speaker 1: and he's just gonna do whatever he wants, and he's 792 00:40:35,480 --> 00:40:37,359 Speaker 1: gonna set the top of the market and he's gonna 793 00:40:37,400 --> 00:40:40,440 Speaker 1: do things like franchise tag a left tackle they drafted 794 00:40:40,440 --> 00:40:42,279 Speaker 1: that really hasn't been that great, but just because like, 795 00:40:42,320 --> 00:40:44,880 Speaker 1: why not spend the money there? There are people that 796 00:40:45,000 --> 00:40:47,040 Speaker 1: know the Packers far better than I do, So I'm 797 00:40:47,080 --> 00:40:49,960 Speaker 1: not gonna go into hard on this, but it doesn't 798 00:40:49,960 --> 00:40:51,440 Speaker 1: make sense to me if you have a chance to 799 00:40:51,440 --> 00:40:54,440 Speaker 1: put the tag on Aaron Jones running back, put him 800 00:40:54,480 --> 00:40:57,200 Speaker 1: essentially in a one year deal for money that is 801 00:40:57,280 --> 00:40:59,400 Speaker 1: in the ballpark of the best running backs in the 802 00:40:59,440 --> 00:41:01,239 Speaker 1: league in terms of payment, but not at the top 803 00:41:01,239 --> 00:41:04,120 Speaker 1: of the market like you do it because Aaron Rodgers 804 00:41:04,200 --> 00:41:06,719 Speaker 1: is thirty eight years old, and and and you're you've 805 00:41:06,760 --> 00:41:08,840 Speaker 1: gotten close to the mountaintop of the last two years, 806 00:41:09,400 --> 00:41:12,279 Speaker 1: put the best team on the field possible. Now they 807 00:41:12,320 --> 00:41:14,359 Speaker 1: may be saying, we can take this money that we're 808 00:41:14,360 --> 00:41:16,560 Speaker 1: not gonna pay Aaron Jones if he doesn't come back. 809 00:41:16,600 --> 00:41:18,680 Speaker 1: I'm working on this. Yeah, they might, they might get 810 00:41:18,719 --> 00:41:21,040 Speaker 1: him back. Maybe they maybe they bring him back and 811 00:41:21,080 --> 00:41:23,359 Speaker 1: everything's fine. But if this ends with him walking out 812 00:41:23,400 --> 00:41:26,320 Speaker 1: the door and they think we're just gonna reallocate those assets, 813 00:41:26,840 --> 00:41:28,879 Speaker 1: I don't know, man. I mean, that guy has been 814 00:41:28,920 --> 00:41:31,879 Speaker 1: a stud and there's a reason their offense has been 815 00:41:32,000 --> 00:41:35,799 Speaker 1: so um incredibly efficient in the last season, and it's 816 00:41:35,880 --> 00:41:38,200 Speaker 1: it's a lot of it is obviously Rogers, but Jones 817 00:41:38,200 --> 00:41:41,600 Speaker 1: gave him that balance playing with fire. I think I 818 00:41:41,600 --> 00:41:44,400 Speaker 1: think they must. It tells you good things about what 819 00:41:44,440 --> 00:41:47,160 Speaker 1: they think about a. J. Dillon because he's going to 820 00:41:47,239 --> 00:41:51,879 Speaker 1: shift in and become a lead guy. But Jones, well, 821 00:41:51,920 --> 00:41:54,960 Speaker 1: I I'm I'm just saying that this stuff happens though. 822 00:41:54,960 --> 00:41:57,480 Speaker 1: Where it's like, especially at the running back position. They 823 00:41:57,600 --> 00:41:59,680 Speaker 1: they don't want to pay eight million dollars to a 824 00:41:59,760 --> 00:42:01,640 Speaker 1: run back and they're and they're telling us that, but 825 00:42:02,160 --> 00:42:05,200 Speaker 1: I mean, there are these suggestions that maybe Jones goes 826 00:42:05,239 --> 00:42:08,200 Speaker 1: out and test the market, doesn't get the deal, he 827 00:42:08,239 --> 00:42:11,719 Speaker 1: thinks um and comes back to Green Bay, and then 828 00:42:11,719 --> 00:42:13,680 Speaker 1: you get him from more than one season he gown. 829 00:42:13,800 --> 00:42:15,440 Speaker 1: If he hits the open market, he's going I mean, 830 00:42:15,600 --> 00:42:18,719 Speaker 1: and if you really do value Aaron Jones, put the 831 00:42:18,760 --> 00:42:21,239 Speaker 1: tag on him and then try to work out a deal. 832 00:42:21,280 --> 00:42:22,560 Speaker 1: And then if you can't work out a deal, he's 833 00:42:22,560 --> 00:42:24,600 Speaker 1: still on your team, or maybe you trade him if 834 00:42:24,600 --> 00:42:27,240 Speaker 1: you really want to go down. I don't know. Man, Again, 835 00:42:27,280 --> 00:42:29,879 Speaker 1: there are people out there that know the Packers better. 836 00:42:29,920 --> 00:42:32,719 Speaker 1: But it just struck me as strange. The Bucks resigned 837 00:42:32,760 --> 00:42:38,360 Speaker 1: Lavante David to a two year contract million twenty million 838 00:42:38,400 --> 00:42:43,920 Speaker 1: guaranteed UM, thirty one years old, PFF their number one 839 00:42:43,960 --> 00:42:46,960 Speaker 1: coverage linebacker last year. So this guy has been one 840 00:42:47,000 --> 00:42:51,200 Speaker 1: of the great um defensive players in Bucks history. And 841 00:42:51,239 --> 00:42:53,080 Speaker 1: now he's got a Super Bowl ring on top of it, 842 00:42:53,120 --> 00:42:56,520 Speaker 1: and now he's got more security. So good for Lavante David. Gregg, 843 00:42:56,560 --> 00:42:58,440 Speaker 1: is this one surprised you a little bit? Well, the 844 00:42:58,520 --> 00:43:03,960 Speaker 1: money surprised me a little bit. Another West favorite he 845 00:43:04,080 --> 00:43:07,200 Speaker 1: was on that you know, I remember early two thousand 846 00:43:07,560 --> 00:43:09,400 Speaker 1: and fourteen on our podcast that this is one of 847 00:43:09,440 --> 00:43:11,680 Speaker 1: the great linebackers in the league. I think if if 848 00:43:11,719 --> 00:43:14,239 Speaker 1: he had been on the Patriots or some other team, 849 00:43:14,400 --> 00:43:16,359 Speaker 1: he you'd be talking about him as a potential Hall 850 00:43:16,400 --> 00:43:19,480 Speaker 1: of Famer. Maybe he'll get there. Um. I I am 851 00:43:19,520 --> 00:43:22,040 Speaker 1: looking for, though, a text that I just know will 852 00:43:22,200 --> 00:43:26,560 Speaker 1: make you happy. Dan Um from our you know friend 853 00:43:26,800 --> 00:43:31,600 Speaker 1: Mike Berkowitz, you know, is a big Patriots fan, and uh, 854 00:43:31,880 --> 00:43:33,880 Speaker 1: you know, I want to get this right. But the 855 00:43:33,880 --> 00:43:38,799 Speaker 1: the the idea is basically he like he's basically transferred allegiances. 856 00:43:38,880 --> 00:43:40,799 Speaker 1: He still loves the Patriots, but he started he's one 857 00:43:40,800 --> 00:43:42,560 Speaker 1: of those guys that just started rooting for the Bucks. 858 00:43:42,719 --> 00:43:44,799 Speaker 1: And he was like, it's nice to finally root for 859 00:43:44,880 --> 00:43:48,160 Speaker 1: a franchise that like values their veterans and like holds 860 00:43:48,200 --> 00:43:50,520 Speaker 1: onto the guys that have been you know, great in 861 00:43:50,520 --> 00:43:53,359 Speaker 1: their uniform. It's nice to you know, finally for for 862 00:43:53,400 --> 00:43:56,440 Speaker 1: a franchise with loyalty of like you what a smooth 863 00:43:56,760 --> 00:43:58,560 Speaker 1: I mean, he really hits the ground running as a 864 00:43:58,600 --> 00:44:01,480 Speaker 1: fan to go front, I mean, right, the Patriots experienced 865 00:44:01,560 --> 00:44:04,320 Speaker 1: right into this, right, and he still likes the Patriots. 866 00:44:04,400 --> 00:44:06,440 Speaker 1: But that's it cracked me. Ut sounds like you like 867 00:44:06,520 --> 00:44:08,799 Speaker 1: Tom Brady more than you like the Patriots. But no, 868 00:44:08,920 --> 00:44:13,000 Speaker 1: I'm with h M. All right, let's see speaking of 869 00:44:13,000 --> 00:44:15,960 Speaker 1: the Patriots are taking phone calls, we're hearing on to 870 00:44:16,080 --> 00:44:19,560 Speaker 1: kill Harry there underwhelming wide receiver. I believe he was 871 00:44:19,560 --> 00:44:22,560 Speaker 1: a second round pick a couple of years ago. Um, 872 00:44:22,680 --> 00:44:25,480 Speaker 1: and uh, what kind of market does that guy have? Greg? 873 00:44:25,840 --> 00:44:28,959 Speaker 1: I mean, let's be honest here, m M. Not much. 874 00:44:29,320 --> 00:44:31,799 Speaker 1: I don't know. I have to this. Why is this 875 00:44:31,880 --> 00:44:34,640 Speaker 1: even like an urgent thing happening right now? Who is 876 00:44:35,360 --> 00:44:40,520 Speaker 1: how many? How many teams are calling up the Patriots? 877 00:44:40,560 --> 00:44:43,560 Speaker 1: I saw this report to yesterday and it's like, okay, 878 00:44:43,840 --> 00:44:45,680 Speaker 1: I thought you would have fun with it. See, sometimes 879 00:44:45,719 --> 00:44:47,960 Speaker 1: they try to give you some red meat there, Dan, 880 00:44:48,040 --> 00:44:52,200 Speaker 1: because it's a sign of just like it's a it's 881 00:44:52,239 --> 00:44:54,640 Speaker 1: just funny when these reports come out, because to me, 882 00:44:54,680 --> 00:44:57,120 Speaker 1: it's just like, hey, if I'm nakill Harry and I 883 00:44:57,160 --> 00:44:59,520 Speaker 1: read the report, it's like, hey, Bill Belichick hates you. 884 00:45:01,680 --> 00:45:03,400 Speaker 1: That's what I would read it to it. It's like 885 00:45:03,440 --> 00:45:05,879 Speaker 1: this first round pick that didn't work out clearly, and 886 00:45:05,960 --> 00:45:08,759 Speaker 1: I just you know, think, but they're calls, so there's 887 00:45:08,840 --> 00:45:11,400 Speaker 1: like there's like a line of teams out there that 888 00:45:11,440 --> 00:45:15,279 Speaker 1: are like super into Nikkil Harry after what he's done 889 00:45:15,320 --> 00:45:17,600 Speaker 1: over the past two seasons and a great game against 890 00:45:17,600 --> 00:45:20,960 Speaker 1: the Seahawks last year. Flat lines like in like thirteen 891 00:45:21,000 --> 00:45:24,360 Speaker 1: other games, and there's multiple teams you know, hitting the 892 00:45:24,360 --> 00:45:27,759 Speaker 1: Patriots complex up on trying to get him. Are you 893 00:45:27,880 --> 00:45:31,080 Speaker 1: playing work for the Patriots? We have a very pres 894 00:45:31,239 --> 00:45:34,080 Speaker 1: a big audience. Are you actually carry the water trying 895 00:45:34,120 --> 00:45:36,359 Speaker 1: to move nkkil Harry in the trade right now? I'm 896 00:45:36,440 --> 00:45:39,359 Speaker 1: laughing at it. I don't know he has struggled. He 897 00:45:39,760 --> 00:45:44,680 Speaker 1: they played demere bird the Patriots of their snaps last year. 898 00:45:44,719 --> 00:45:46,839 Speaker 1: I saw this while doing the that was the second 899 00:45:46,880 --> 00:45:49,000 Speaker 1: highest of any free agent wide receiver. That's how bad 900 00:45:49,040 --> 00:45:51,760 Speaker 1: their offense was. Jacoby Myers was by far their number 901 00:45:51,760 --> 00:45:56,320 Speaker 1: one receiver. They were desperate to have Harry do anything 902 00:45:56,360 --> 00:45:58,759 Speaker 1: the last couple of years, and they drafted him over 903 00:45:58,800 --> 00:46:01,120 Speaker 1: a j. Brown. That one kills because they were very 904 00:46:01,160 --> 00:46:03,840 Speaker 1: they were looking for a certain type of player and 905 00:46:03,840 --> 00:46:06,960 Speaker 1: they're very similar types of player, and man, did they 906 00:46:06,960 --> 00:46:09,919 Speaker 1: make the wrong choice between those two? So to be clear, 907 00:46:09,960 --> 00:46:13,920 Speaker 1: you're not using our platform to improve the Patriots. Uh, 908 00:46:14,080 --> 00:46:16,520 Speaker 1: what do they gotta get? For a fifth round pick. 909 00:46:16,920 --> 00:46:22,359 Speaker 1: Maybe I don't all right in cuts news Cuts Cuts Cuts, 910 00:46:22,480 --> 00:46:26,760 Speaker 1: Um guard Kevin Zeitler of the Giants of Vikings tackle 911 00:46:26,920 --> 00:46:33,200 Speaker 1: Riley Reef, Titans cornerback Malcolm Butler all hit the street. 912 00:46:33,400 --> 00:46:38,400 Speaker 1: Um Butler was not the biggest problem that Tennessee Secondary, 913 00:46:38,400 --> 00:46:42,399 Speaker 1: but he was uh highly paid. I'm sure he'll get work. 914 00:46:42,680 --> 00:46:45,760 Speaker 1: I'm not sure what the situation was is with Riley Reef. 915 00:46:46,000 --> 00:46:49,520 Speaker 1: Zeitler actually graded well this year in PFF. But maybe 916 00:46:50,120 --> 00:46:53,799 Speaker 1: again this comes back to the three salary cap situation 917 00:46:54,160 --> 00:46:58,880 Speaker 1: and the Giants needed that versatility. He'll find a job immediately. 918 00:46:59,760 --> 00:47:04,280 Speaker 1: He's Leightlery. Well, some of these guys there, they maybe 919 00:47:04,520 --> 00:47:07,640 Speaker 1: it is different this year to some degree, because it does. 920 00:47:07,760 --> 00:47:10,160 Speaker 1: It certainly feels maybe it's it's also because I don't 921 00:47:10,160 --> 00:47:12,680 Speaker 1: have West to help me out, but it's like it 922 00:47:12,680 --> 00:47:14,319 Speaker 1: feels like I'm adding a lot of guys to this 923 00:47:14,560 --> 00:47:17,200 Speaker 1: top underlist. Over and over. These guys getting cut are 924 00:47:17,200 --> 00:47:20,759 Speaker 1: in the forty to seventy or eighty range. They're they're 925 00:47:20,800 --> 00:47:23,000 Speaker 1: like landing square in the middle. Riley Reef, he'll he'll 926 00:47:23,000 --> 00:47:26,360 Speaker 1: get a job, he'll start. Um Kyle van Noy like 927 00:47:26,400 --> 00:47:28,680 Speaker 1: he'll get a job, maybe back with you know, Malcolm 928 00:47:28,680 --> 00:47:30,200 Speaker 1: Butler will but I thought it was kind of good 929 00:47:30,280 --> 00:47:32,879 Speaker 1: last year. Uh, like he'll get a job. These guys 930 00:47:32,880 --> 00:47:36,759 Speaker 1: are are starting players. I appreciate the theory that, like, 931 00:47:36,880 --> 00:47:39,400 Speaker 1: you're gonna get a lot of free agents signing one 932 00:47:39,480 --> 00:47:42,919 Speaker 1: year deals because then the cotton the cap hops back 933 00:47:43,000 --> 00:47:45,280 Speaker 1: up big time next year, and if you bet on yourself, 934 00:47:45,280 --> 00:47:48,000 Speaker 1: you get a better deal next year. I still don't 935 00:47:48,000 --> 00:47:50,360 Speaker 1: believe any team is cutting a guy that they really like. 936 00:47:50,719 --> 00:47:52,960 Speaker 1: That's kind of my over That's my big point is 937 00:47:52,960 --> 00:47:55,399 Speaker 1: that if they believed in them, they would keep them. 938 00:47:55,480 --> 00:47:57,520 Speaker 1: They would just find a way. You always find a way, 939 00:47:57,640 --> 00:48:00,719 Speaker 1: because you could change their salary to push it into 940 00:48:00,760 --> 00:48:03,640 Speaker 1: next year. But they ultimately don't think Zeitler Butler are 941 00:48:03,680 --> 00:48:06,000 Speaker 1: like difference makers. They just think they're okay, and so 942 00:48:06,160 --> 00:48:08,120 Speaker 1: then they'll cut them. Right. But when you're the Titans 943 00:48:08,120 --> 00:48:11,440 Speaker 1: and you couldn't cover anybody, and now you choose to 944 00:48:11,640 --> 00:48:15,319 Speaker 1: save pennies or millions, let's be fair by cutting him 945 00:48:15,320 --> 00:48:17,080 Speaker 1: off your team, It's like, all right, you better have 946 00:48:17,160 --> 00:48:19,239 Speaker 1: a plan and you better draft well here and things 947 00:48:19,280 --> 00:48:21,480 Speaker 1: are not going to get any better. Finally, Mark asked 948 00:48:21,480 --> 00:48:25,080 Speaker 1: me if Drew Brees has retired. Dan has Drew Brees 949 00:48:25,200 --> 00:48:30,320 Speaker 1: retired according to your reports. That's what's happening in the 950 00:48:30,400 --> 00:48:38,319 Speaker 1: news good good segment. Let's bring it back, um all 951 00:48:38,400 --> 00:48:42,120 Speaker 1: right before we go, and before we tossed to Ricky 952 00:48:42,200 --> 00:48:45,080 Speaker 1: and Sarah Thomas, imagine like we're tossing to this and 953 00:48:45,080 --> 00:48:47,480 Speaker 1: it's just Erica trashing the three of us to Sarah 954 00:48:47,560 --> 00:48:49,960 Speaker 1: Thomas and Thomas is just like a little bit confused 955 00:48:50,000 --> 00:48:52,439 Speaker 1: because she doesn't really know who we are. But Erica 956 00:48:52,480 --> 00:48:55,879 Speaker 1: is just using um Thomas as a platform to share 957 00:48:55,920 --> 00:48:58,960 Speaker 1: a lot of her anger about us an NFL media 958 00:48:59,000 --> 00:49:01,680 Speaker 1: in general. And we we we willfully tack it onto 959 00:49:01,719 --> 00:49:04,280 Speaker 1: the show that I would I would love to listen 960 00:49:04,280 --> 00:49:07,720 Speaker 1: to that, to be honest, Erica, is that what's gonna happen? 961 00:49:08,280 --> 00:49:13,879 Speaker 1: We're flying blind on this, Yeah, I mean you trust me, right, Yeah, 962 00:49:13,920 --> 00:49:17,000 Speaker 1: that's sort of marks fantasy, you know, just hearing people talk, 963 00:49:17,800 --> 00:49:21,040 Speaker 1: you know, crazy trash on him, like just like I 964 00:49:21,080 --> 00:49:24,080 Speaker 1: am a bad boy, you know, well I don't. I 965 00:49:24,120 --> 00:49:25,920 Speaker 1: think you're framing that in a certain way that I 966 00:49:25,960 --> 00:49:29,520 Speaker 1: finally confirmation of my bad boy status. I think it 967 00:49:29,560 --> 00:49:33,400 Speaker 1: would be cool if Erica was like dropping verbal bombs 968 00:49:33,440 --> 00:49:36,400 Speaker 1: on us Sarah Thomas out of nowhere at the end 969 00:49:36,440 --> 00:49:38,200 Speaker 1: of our show. It would be funny because she would 970 00:49:38,280 --> 00:49:43,520 Speaker 1: she would be just like I prefer the verbal bombs 971 00:49:43,560 --> 00:49:46,839 Speaker 1: to be on other people. But I you know, either way, 972 00:49:47,040 --> 00:49:49,719 Speaker 1: verbal bombs are usually fun So alright, make sure you 973 00:49:49,760 --> 00:49:53,520 Speaker 1: tune in at the end of this episode before we go, Uh, 974 00:49:53,640 --> 00:49:57,440 Speaker 1: let's play one of our favorite little games. What you 975 00:49:58,120 --> 00:50:04,560 Speaker 1: people don't realize? Mark? Get us going. I think something 976 00:50:04,840 --> 00:50:08,360 Speaker 1: that is becoming clear. But a lot of people, um not. 977 00:50:08,480 --> 00:50:13,720 Speaker 1: Unlike the YouTube little Beta boys were supposed to insult 978 00:50:13,760 --> 00:50:16,040 Speaker 1: each other. And that's what I'm calling you, that's what 979 00:50:16,120 --> 00:50:19,799 Speaker 1: you are. And well you just not realize that. I mean, 980 00:50:19,800 --> 00:50:22,760 Speaker 1: I thought it was insulting sort of just the general public, 981 00:50:22,960 --> 00:50:26,239 Speaker 1: you know, listening, you know anything, not necessarily each other. 982 00:50:26,520 --> 00:50:28,879 Speaker 1: Oh well, then remove that. I don't I don't think 983 00:50:28,880 --> 00:50:32,360 Speaker 1: that you're that you're that. Um we're we're not. We 984 00:50:32,560 --> 00:50:36,719 Speaker 1: have to wake by the way, we have to wake 985 00:50:36,800 --> 00:50:38,640 Speaker 1: up to the fact that we live in a post 986 00:50:38,840 --> 00:50:45,080 Speaker 1: Steelers universe, post stealers. They are. Well, here's the thing. 987 00:50:45,160 --> 00:50:46,960 Speaker 1: I don't like it at all. I think they have 988 00:50:47,040 --> 00:50:50,719 Speaker 1: been for years and years, um judicious in their decisions 989 00:50:50,920 --> 00:50:53,640 Speaker 1: Um excellent in many in many of their draft picks 990 00:50:53,680 --> 00:50:56,399 Speaker 1: on offense specifically. But I'm looking at a team right 991 00:50:56,400 --> 00:51:00,200 Speaker 1: now that last year had the second worst run blocking aid. 992 00:51:00,600 --> 00:51:03,520 Speaker 1: They could not run the ball. They were an imbalanced mess. 993 00:51:03,960 --> 00:51:06,640 Speaker 1: And now you say goodbye to Marquise Pouncy. You do 994 00:51:06,719 --> 00:51:10,440 Speaker 1: not get You're not gonna have Aljandro Villanueva back. That 995 00:51:10,600 --> 00:51:13,880 Speaker 1: is tough to replace these guys. The offensive line is 996 00:51:13,920 --> 00:51:16,480 Speaker 1: a mess, Big Ben, you now have a bigger question 997 00:51:16,600 --> 00:51:19,839 Speaker 1: at quarterback than you do an answer. And I think 998 00:51:20,160 --> 00:51:23,080 Speaker 1: behind offensive lines that are crumbling, that's when teams start 999 00:51:23,120 --> 00:51:25,439 Speaker 1: to go south. You're in a division where two other 1000 00:51:25,480 --> 00:51:28,400 Speaker 1: teams beside yourself made the playoffs last year. Both of 1001 00:51:28,440 --> 00:51:30,239 Speaker 1: them look better than you at the end of the year. 1002 00:51:30,239 --> 00:51:33,680 Speaker 1: And the Ravens and Browns and the Bengals who knocked 1003 00:51:33,719 --> 00:51:37,840 Speaker 1: off the Titans and beat the Steelers with Ryan Finley 1004 00:51:37,880 --> 00:51:40,440 Speaker 1: smiling his way to like fifty yards on the ground 1005 00:51:40,680 --> 00:51:44,760 Speaker 1: in a bizarre primetime game knocking off Pittsburgh. The Steelers 1006 00:51:44,800 --> 00:51:47,120 Speaker 1: are in hot water. They can't just assume they're gonna 1007 00:51:47,400 --> 00:51:49,680 Speaker 1: get four wins a year out of the state of 1008 00:51:49,719 --> 00:51:53,840 Speaker 1: Ohio and all this other business. I sense that we 1009 00:51:53,920 --> 00:51:55,920 Speaker 1: now float into a world where the Steelers are no 1010 00:51:56,000 --> 00:51:59,000 Speaker 1: longer the center of the a f C east or 1011 00:51:59,000 --> 00:52:00,880 Speaker 1: west of New England. What did you call it? A 1012 00:52:00,920 --> 00:52:06,640 Speaker 1: post stealers this universe? Yeah, post society America. You know 1013 00:52:07,000 --> 00:52:09,480 Speaker 1: that again. And I'm all. I'm all for this ultimately 1014 00:52:09,520 --> 00:52:13,280 Speaker 1: because I understand as a Browns fan that the Steelers 1015 00:52:13,280 --> 00:52:16,200 Speaker 1: are hyper annoying because they've been an efficient franchise that 1016 00:52:16,239 --> 00:52:19,000 Speaker 1: beat up on you for the longest time. But for 1017 00:52:19,080 --> 00:52:21,680 Speaker 1: like the rest of us that aren't his like plugged 1018 00:52:21,680 --> 00:52:25,080 Speaker 1: into the that division, it's kind of been post stealers 1019 00:52:25,120 --> 00:52:27,320 Speaker 1: for a while. They haven't even been to the a 1020 00:52:27,480 --> 00:52:30,680 Speaker 1: f C Championship Game in a decade, but they were 1021 00:52:30,719 --> 00:52:33,160 Speaker 1: also they were eleven and oh last year, and they 1022 00:52:33,239 --> 00:52:36,240 Speaker 1: have been a team that's constantly you just you would 1023 00:52:36,800 --> 00:52:39,319 Speaker 1: you would never be laughed at to make them your 1024 00:52:39,360 --> 00:52:42,720 Speaker 1: super Bowl team almost every year for the past twenties 1025 00:52:42,719 --> 00:52:45,000 Speaker 1: someomething years. They haven't won a playoff game in four years. 1026 00:52:45,600 --> 00:52:47,480 Speaker 1: That's all I'm saying that they've been I guess what 1027 00:52:47,520 --> 00:52:50,200 Speaker 1: I'm what I'm talking about is them floating away from 1028 00:52:50,200 --> 00:52:54,920 Speaker 1: even that area to a darker place. I'd be NICs 1029 00:52:54,920 --> 00:52:56,719 Speaker 1: who would you rather see float away to a dark place. 1030 00:52:56,760 --> 00:53:01,919 Speaker 1: The Steelers are the Ravens. M hmm, fantasy lands. Let's 1031 00:53:01,920 --> 00:53:06,200 Speaker 1: start with Pittsburgh. Alright, we'll start with and it's certainly possible. 1032 00:53:06,280 --> 00:53:09,240 Speaker 1: The big question mark at quarterback. I like that, Greg, 1033 00:53:10,840 --> 00:53:13,520 Speaker 1: Do people not realize? I feel like I have already 1034 00:53:13,520 --> 00:53:16,120 Speaker 1: been talking about this, so maybe you did realize you 1035 00:53:16,200 --> 00:53:19,279 Speaker 1: ignoramus is you know, if you've been paying attention to 1036 00:53:19,320 --> 00:53:22,080 Speaker 1: the show. But if not, maybe people wouldn't realize. The 1037 00:53:22,120 --> 00:53:25,879 Speaker 1: salary cap still overrated. I'm not. You know, there's been 1038 00:53:25,920 --> 00:53:28,520 Speaker 1: like some victory laps I've been noticing on Twitter by like, 1039 00:53:28,719 --> 00:53:32,040 Speaker 1: you know, it's like a tough week for the salary 1040 00:53:32,080 --> 00:53:37,360 Speaker 1: cap is a myth, guys. It's like, show me the players, 1041 00:53:37,360 --> 00:53:39,600 Speaker 1: so it's on my radar. No, I mean that they're 1042 00:53:39,640 --> 00:53:43,840 Speaker 1: saying that, I don't. I stand by it. Show me 1043 00:53:43,920 --> 00:53:47,120 Speaker 1: the players that were like incredibly valuable, that the player 1044 00:53:47,239 --> 00:53:50,360 Speaker 1: that the teams wanted to keep. And I'll show you, guys, 1045 00:53:50,560 --> 00:53:53,200 Speaker 1: where you restructure their contract and you move it into 1046 00:53:53,280 --> 00:53:56,080 Speaker 1: the future, and you do these ghost years that the 1047 00:53:56,120 --> 00:53:59,160 Speaker 1: Saints love doing and everyone every team is doing now 1048 00:53:59,160 --> 00:54:01,920 Speaker 1: where you sign these phony contracts and you push it 1049 00:54:01,960 --> 00:54:04,960 Speaker 1: into the future when that money is being made. One 1050 00:54:05,000 --> 00:54:06,960 Speaker 1: of the reasons a lot of these guys you know 1051 00:54:07,000 --> 00:54:10,360 Speaker 1: are getting cut is because uh and ignoramus may not 1052 00:54:10,400 --> 00:54:13,320 Speaker 1: realize this either. I think your dollar is going to 1053 00:54:13,400 --> 00:54:15,880 Speaker 1: go further in this market, and it is a one year, 1054 00:54:16,760 --> 00:54:19,919 Speaker 1: a one year thing. And I think the teams, either 1055 00:54:20,000 --> 00:54:23,319 Speaker 1: intentionally or not, like the Jets, the Patriots, the Jaguars, 1056 00:54:23,840 --> 00:54:26,439 Speaker 1: the Colts, there's you know, there's five that have more 1057 00:54:26,520 --> 00:54:29,960 Speaker 1: money ultimately in cap space than they really need. They're 1058 00:54:29,960 --> 00:54:32,279 Speaker 1: in a great spot because I think your money is 1059 00:54:32,280 --> 00:54:34,759 Speaker 1: going to go further in this market. So even a 1060 00:54:34,760 --> 00:54:39,880 Speaker 1: team like the Titans um who cut Malcolm Butler, or 1061 00:54:39,920 --> 00:54:41,800 Speaker 1: some other teams or that you know that are closer 1062 00:54:41,840 --> 00:54:44,279 Speaker 1: to the cap, they still want or the Bills were 1063 00:54:44,280 --> 00:54:46,960 Speaker 1: another example for me, they still want to get as 1064 00:54:47,040 --> 00:54:49,759 Speaker 1: much room as they can because I think they see 1065 00:54:49,800 --> 00:54:52,040 Speaker 1: a year where there are a lot of veterans out 1066 00:54:52,040 --> 00:54:54,560 Speaker 1: there that they could get for four or five million 1067 00:54:54,640 --> 00:54:57,000 Speaker 1: at a lower cost than they wouldn't a normal your 1068 00:54:57,040 --> 00:54:59,360 Speaker 1: like mark set in those one year contracts. So you 1069 00:54:59,480 --> 00:55:02,319 Speaker 1: still you still want to get that that money this 1070 00:55:02,400 --> 00:55:04,320 Speaker 1: year and it is a different year that it helps, 1071 00:55:04,520 --> 00:55:07,080 Speaker 1: but teams aren't cutting players they want, that's my point. 1072 00:55:08,120 --> 00:55:10,080 Speaker 1: All Their thing on the cap that annoys me is 1073 00:55:10,080 --> 00:55:11,480 Speaker 1: that when you go to over the Cap and you 1074 00:55:11,480 --> 00:55:14,280 Speaker 1: look at the list, there's always two or three UM 1075 00:55:14,440 --> 00:55:17,439 Speaker 1: total trash bag operations that have way more cap space 1076 00:55:17,480 --> 00:55:19,640 Speaker 1: than everyone else. They don't spend money, they don't know 1077 00:55:19,680 --> 00:55:22,879 Speaker 1: how to spend it. They're always in the green and 1078 00:55:23,200 --> 00:55:24,680 Speaker 1: or the black I guess you would say in a 1079 00:55:24,719 --> 00:55:28,160 Speaker 1: financial term, and they're not good. It's like, I'd rather 1080 00:55:28,200 --> 00:55:30,120 Speaker 1: be one of these teams that dances around the cap 1081 00:55:30,200 --> 00:55:31,840 Speaker 1: year after year and you're in the a f C 1082 00:55:31,960 --> 00:55:33,879 Speaker 1: R NFC title game at the same time. Right, there's 1083 00:55:33,920 --> 00:55:36,080 Speaker 1: been too much cap space the last few years, and 1084 00:55:36,120 --> 00:55:38,360 Speaker 1: so that that changes. This year that will be different. 1085 00:55:38,360 --> 00:55:42,800 Speaker 1: But next year it'll it'll shoot you know, it'll shoot 1086 00:55:42,880 --> 00:55:47,160 Speaker 1: right back up. Um, all right, mine will be uh. 1087 00:55:47,440 --> 00:55:49,479 Speaker 1: Kind of circling back to the beginning of the show, 1088 00:55:49,560 --> 00:55:52,960 Speaker 1: let's start with hearing from Dak Prescott at his press 1089 00:55:53,000 --> 00:55:56,160 Speaker 1: press conference this week. It's my plan is UM get 1090 00:55:56,160 --> 00:55:58,680 Speaker 1: a parade in Dallas. I mean, obviously, as a competitor, 1091 00:55:58,719 --> 00:56:00,480 Speaker 1: you watch and you watch people seller and you watch 1092 00:56:00,520 --> 00:56:03,719 Speaker 1: people do what you want to do. Um, Uh, there's 1093 00:56:03,760 --> 00:56:05,879 Speaker 1: not too many more things that lights a fire under 1094 00:56:05,880 --> 00:56:07,840 Speaker 1: you than somebody having what you want. As a competitor. 1095 00:56:07,880 --> 00:56:09,879 Speaker 1: You watch and you watch people celebrating, you watch people 1096 00:56:09,880 --> 00:56:12,040 Speaker 1: do what you want to do, fire to it, and 1097 00:56:12,560 --> 00:56:14,120 Speaker 1: you throw on there that I was holding my leg 1098 00:56:14,120 --> 00:56:15,600 Speaker 1: and didn't even have a chance to be out there 1099 00:56:15,880 --> 00:56:17,719 Speaker 1: while guys were doing what was taken away from me. 1100 00:56:18,280 --> 00:56:20,319 Speaker 1: I'm just excited to get out there and show you 1101 00:56:20,360 --> 00:56:23,399 Speaker 1: what this team is gonna do. And um, the next 1102 00:56:23,440 --> 00:56:25,760 Speaker 1: big press conference we have is is hopefully in another 1103 00:56:25,840 --> 00:56:28,640 Speaker 1: year after after that big parade. So there you go. 1104 00:56:28,840 --> 00:56:32,560 Speaker 1: So Dak is talking about Super Bowl parades and uh, 1105 00:56:32,600 --> 00:56:37,960 Speaker 1: what you simpleton's out there, Uh don't realize is that 1106 00:56:38,000 --> 00:56:40,560 Speaker 1: you're getting sucked in again. It's gonna happen, and it's 1107 00:56:40,560 --> 00:56:43,160 Speaker 1: not gonna happen to me, but it's gonna happen to 1108 00:56:43,239 --> 00:56:47,120 Speaker 1: you because Dac does this contract and you hear all 1109 00:56:47,120 --> 00:56:51,640 Speaker 1: the flowery talk coming out of Jaral World, and uh, 1110 00:56:51,680 --> 00:56:54,720 Speaker 1: he's healthy, Dac, and that's gonna be you know, built 1111 00:56:54,800 --> 00:56:58,200 Speaker 1: on And then you're gonna hear, uh, they're gonna sign 1112 00:56:58,200 --> 00:57:00,680 Speaker 1: a couple of buzzy free agent stallas and then they're 1113 00:57:00,680 --> 00:57:03,759 Speaker 1: gonna go and get the guy that everybody um said 1114 00:57:03,800 --> 00:57:07,200 Speaker 1: they wanted in the draft, and then they're going to 1115 00:57:07,280 --> 00:57:11,200 Speaker 1: get the training camp and a Segiel Elliott is gonna 1116 00:57:11,280 --> 00:57:14,640 Speaker 1: be in the quote best shape of his life close quote. 1117 00:57:15,239 --> 00:57:18,160 Speaker 1: And all of a sudden, you're gonna think the Cowboys 1118 00:57:18,200 --> 00:57:20,080 Speaker 1: are going to the playoffs. That's what you're gonna do. 1119 00:57:20,440 --> 00:57:23,160 Speaker 1: I'm not gonna do it. In fact, in fact, Ricky 1120 00:57:23,440 --> 00:57:27,560 Speaker 1: hit my missive music. I gotta hold myself accountable because 1121 00:57:27,560 --> 00:57:30,680 Speaker 1: this is I've been I've gotten this so many years wrong. 1122 00:57:31,440 --> 00:57:38,040 Speaker 1: I Dan Hansas, the Old Zeuser a k a. Big 1123 00:57:38,120 --> 00:57:44,919 Speaker 1: Daddy Rich aka the New Old Blue Eyes. Well, not, 1124 00:57:45,160 --> 00:57:47,880 Speaker 1: under any circumstances picked the Dallas Cowboys to win the 1125 00:57:47,960 --> 00:57:54,240 Speaker 1: NFC East. This is a binding agreement that ensures the 1126 00:57:54,280 --> 00:58:00,280 Speaker 1: involved parties. The aforementioned Knew Old Blue Eyes has entered 1127 00:58:00,280 --> 00:58:03,160 Speaker 1: into an agreement and is expected to fulfill the obligations 1128 00:58:03,240 --> 00:58:07,840 Speaker 1: underset agreement even if the Eagles, Giants, and Washington football 1129 00:58:07,880 --> 00:58:11,360 Speaker 1: team all have a pretty decent chance to suck but 1130 00:58:13,360 --> 00:58:17,120 Speaker 1: close missile. Wait a minute, what was the nickname you 1131 00:58:17,200 --> 00:58:22,280 Speaker 1: gave yourself after Daddy Rich? Um? Where's Daddy Rich from? 1132 00:58:22,560 --> 00:58:26,880 Speaker 1: Daddy Rich? Was when I was exploring a nickname years ago, 1133 00:58:27,160 --> 00:58:29,880 Speaker 1: that was what West had thrown out there, because that 1134 00:58:29,960 --> 00:58:33,680 Speaker 1: was Chuck Dalley's nickname with the Old Pistons teams um 1135 00:58:33,720 --> 00:58:35,800 Speaker 1: the new Old blue Eyes. That's just something that's been 1136 00:58:35,840 --> 00:58:38,400 Speaker 1: out there. It's percolating, and I guess it's snuck its 1137 00:58:38,400 --> 00:58:42,840 Speaker 1: way into this. I mean, if you give yourself like multiple, 1138 00:58:43,280 --> 00:58:46,880 Speaker 1: you know, complimentary nicknames, is that like past third person, 1139 00:58:47,000 --> 00:58:50,760 Speaker 1: that's like sixth person. You're you're you're so far past it. 1140 00:58:51,360 --> 00:58:55,200 Speaker 1: I mean that's mostly contract language. I've just in the 1141 00:58:55,240 --> 00:58:57,160 Speaker 1: process of buying a house and when you're signing the 1142 00:58:57,160 --> 00:59:01,640 Speaker 1: final paperwork. They actually tracked down every name that's ever 1143 00:59:01,680 --> 00:59:05,000 Speaker 1: been involved in a credit report, and I found some 1144 00:59:05,000 --> 00:59:07,120 Speaker 1: some strange like when I would sign up for like 1145 00:59:07,240 --> 00:59:10,280 Speaker 1: Rolling Stone magazine or something, and I used a dummy 1146 00:59:10,360 --> 00:59:12,120 Speaker 1: name all of a sudden that was on this contract 1147 00:59:12,200 --> 00:59:14,880 Speaker 1: for my house, and I was like, Wow, Okay, that's weird, 1148 00:59:14,600 --> 00:59:17,840 Speaker 1: So daddy rich though you've not used anything, what were 1149 00:59:17,880 --> 00:59:20,760 Speaker 1: You're like Ron Mexico or something. At some point, and 1150 00:59:20,800 --> 00:59:23,120 Speaker 1: I don't know when this happened, I signed up as 1151 00:59:23,200 --> 00:59:26,720 Speaker 1: Dan Houston for something, which is the last name Abano 1152 00:59:27,000 --> 00:59:29,280 Speaker 1: is real is given last name Paul Houston. I don't 1153 00:59:29,280 --> 00:59:30,960 Speaker 1: know when I did it. I don't know what it 1154 00:59:31,000 --> 00:59:33,440 Speaker 1: was for, but it showed up on this contract paperwork 1155 00:59:33,800 --> 00:59:37,320 Speaker 1: for this massive, biggest transaction of my life. Dan Dan's, 1156 00:59:37,480 --> 00:59:40,240 Speaker 1: Dan's the guy he already has fake names for when 1157 00:59:40,280 --> 00:59:43,240 Speaker 1: he's so famous he has to go to hotels under 1158 00:59:43,280 --> 00:59:47,200 Speaker 1: like an assumed identity. Hey, if you're gonna put that 1159 00:59:47,240 --> 00:59:49,000 Speaker 1: contract down there, and you know you were like, okay, 1160 00:59:49,040 --> 00:59:50,440 Speaker 1: I'm not going to pick them to win the division, 1161 00:59:50,680 --> 00:59:53,600 Speaker 1: big big deal NFL dot Com picking. You could still 1162 00:59:53,600 --> 00:59:55,560 Speaker 1: even put him in the playoffs if you wanted. How 1163 00:59:55,600 --> 00:59:58,280 Speaker 1: about you just you know, put a sandwich up right now. 1164 00:59:58,360 --> 01:00:00,000 Speaker 1: Then then they're not even going to make the playoff. 1165 01:00:00,120 --> 01:00:01,760 Speaker 1: I'll take you on that. If you do, sure I 1166 01:00:01,800 --> 01:00:06,000 Speaker 1: will too. Well, I guess, I mean that's doubling the 1167 01:00:06,240 --> 01:00:08,840 Speaker 1: thing that does concern that would be called super like 1168 01:00:08,840 --> 01:00:11,640 Speaker 1: true conviction. Yeah, we were now that you really meant this, well, 1169 01:00:11,680 --> 01:00:16,480 Speaker 1: the contract said number one. But I you know, the 1170 01:00:16,800 --> 01:00:19,800 Speaker 1: thing that the Eagles, Giants and Washington potentially sucking, but 1171 01:00:20,120 --> 01:00:22,600 Speaker 1: that that is very much on my radar with this. 1172 01:00:22,760 --> 01:00:24,880 Speaker 1: But I'm just working under the assumption that the Cowboys 1173 01:00:24,880 --> 01:00:27,919 Speaker 1: are going to trip over themselves again. But I don't 1174 01:00:27,920 --> 01:00:32,280 Speaker 1: feel confident. I'm just this is basically protecting myself from 1175 01:00:32,320 --> 01:00:34,560 Speaker 1: getting sucked into what's about to happen over the next 1176 01:00:34,600 --> 01:00:40,439 Speaker 1: three months, which is Cowboys hype ceaseless uh couch within 1177 01:00:40,440 --> 01:00:42,760 Speaker 1: a division that's not very good. So I'm not gonna 1178 01:00:42,840 --> 01:00:46,440 Speaker 1: take that wager. But I'm also not gonna pick the 1179 01:00:46,480 --> 01:00:48,400 Speaker 1: Cowboys when that I would just say that, if you're 1180 01:00:48,400 --> 01:00:52,280 Speaker 1: the listener right now, we went out a little soft here. 1181 01:00:52,320 --> 01:00:54,400 Speaker 1: I mean, if anything, you take the sandwich and you 1182 01:00:54,520 --> 01:00:56,800 Speaker 1: and you show Yes, this is exactly how I feel. 1183 01:00:56,880 --> 01:01:00,280 Speaker 1: But we're hedging bets. Yeah, well, that's how do we 1184 01:01:00,320 --> 01:01:03,320 Speaker 1: measure hype Knew the new Old Blue Eyes. He just 1185 01:01:03,520 --> 01:01:05,880 Speaker 1: he measures everything. It's just it's and I don't want 1186 01:01:05,880 --> 01:01:07,440 Speaker 1: to go all in. I just wanted to keep it. 1187 01:01:07,720 --> 01:01:10,600 Speaker 1: It has a very like mission accomplished vibe to it 1188 01:01:10,640 --> 01:01:15,440 Speaker 1: where it's just like way to go, Brownie. Um, all right, 1189 01:01:17,120 --> 01:01:21,400 Speaker 1: that's it. We'll be back Monday again. The um NFL 1190 01:01:21,480 --> 01:01:23,920 Speaker 1: Network Show is back. Watch the NFL Network Show. Give 1191 01:01:23,960 --> 01:01:25,600 Speaker 1: us a chance to set your DVRs if that's a 1192 01:01:25,640 --> 01:01:29,960 Speaker 1: thing that you do find it somehow and watch it 1193 01:01:29,960 --> 01:01:31,880 Speaker 1: it's it's gonna be fun. We're gonna have some guests 1194 01:01:31,880 --> 01:01:35,080 Speaker 1: and we're gonna talk about free agency and all sorts 1195 01:01:35,080 --> 01:01:37,320 Speaker 1: of things and have fun doing it. Um, so check 1196 01:01:37,400 --> 01:01:43,040 Speaker 1: that out and um that's it. How great weekend everybody. 1197 01:01:43,040 --> 01:01:45,240 Speaker 1: And remember now it is time to throw it to 1198 01:01:45,400 --> 01:01:49,240 Speaker 1: Ricky Hollywood, who may be slaughtering us in the upcoming segment, 1199 01:01:49,720 --> 01:01:54,080 Speaker 1: A sit down or virtual sit down with Sarah Thomas, 1200 01:01:54,120 --> 01:01:57,800 Speaker 1: the first female officials in the NFL. Girl Power Let 1201 01:01:57,800 --> 01:02:43,520 Speaker 1: it Rip. Ricky Okay joining me now is trailblazing NFL 1202 01:02:43,600 --> 01:02:47,320 Speaker 1: referee Sarah Thomas. Sarah is the league's first full time 1203 01:02:47,360 --> 01:02:51,560 Speaker 1: female official. She's been officiating NFL games for six seasons now, right, 1204 01:02:51,600 --> 01:02:54,480 Speaker 1: Sarah Right, I just finished my sixth season. It's crazy, 1205 01:02:54,800 --> 01:02:57,160 Speaker 1: I know, and the most recent of which culminated with 1206 01:02:57,200 --> 01:03:00,640 Speaker 1: her working as the down judge and Super Bowl fifty five. Sarah, 1207 01:03:00,800 --> 01:03:03,360 Speaker 1: First of all, thank you for joining us. Second, I 1208 01:03:03,440 --> 01:03:06,680 Speaker 1: have to ask, does your head hurt from shattering the 1209 01:03:06,720 --> 01:03:09,440 Speaker 1: glass ceiling? Um? You know, I like to say I 1210 01:03:09,520 --> 01:03:13,120 Speaker 1: shattered the grass ceiling. So it's a little softer, yes, 1211 01:03:13,280 --> 01:03:16,320 Speaker 1: because we're on a turf, I guess, but no, I 1212 01:03:16,720 --> 01:03:19,960 Speaker 1: just um, I don't. I don't even think of it 1213 01:03:20,000 --> 01:03:22,440 Speaker 1: that way, right, but I know that it is a 1214 01:03:22,440 --> 01:03:26,160 Speaker 1: milestone for so many young girls that are aspiring to 1215 01:03:26,200 --> 01:03:28,400 Speaker 1: do something that they don't have to say, can girls 1216 01:03:28,440 --> 01:03:31,480 Speaker 1: do that anymore? Because uh semen is believing it and 1217 01:03:31,480 --> 01:03:33,840 Speaker 1: they can go do it. So, Sarah, you're a basketball 1218 01:03:33,920 --> 01:03:36,800 Speaker 1: player in college and a good one. Do you think 1219 01:03:36,840 --> 01:03:40,000 Speaker 1: being an athlete or former athlete should be a requirement 1220 01:03:40,080 --> 01:03:42,360 Speaker 1: for a career and you know, being a referee. I 1221 01:03:42,400 --> 01:03:46,240 Speaker 1: don't know necessarily a requirement to be an official, but 1222 01:03:46,400 --> 01:03:50,960 Speaker 1: I definitely can say that it helped me and um 1223 01:03:51,080 --> 01:03:54,800 Speaker 1: my mindset. Just being a former athlete and the coaches 1224 01:03:54,880 --> 01:03:57,160 Speaker 1: and the teammates is kind of like the same thing 1225 01:03:57,160 --> 01:03:59,720 Speaker 1: in the world of officiating. We have our supervisors, are 1226 01:03:59,720 --> 01:04:01,960 Speaker 1: are coaches, and we have our teammates, which we call 1227 01:04:02,080 --> 01:04:05,360 Speaker 1: crew and so it's just being able to go through 1228 01:04:05,400 --> 01:04:09,800 Speaker 1: that constructive criticism and applying it or your successes that's great, 1229 01:04:09,840 --> 01:04:11,439 Speaker 1: but knowing that you get to share it with other 1230 01:04:11,840 --> 01:04:15,640 Speaker 1: crewmates or teammates. But it's just those trying times as 1231 01:04:15,640 --> 01:04:17,919 Speaker 1: a former athlete that you just have to dig deep 1232 01:04:17,960 --> 01:04:20,880 Speaker 1: when you don't think you can run another suicide and 1233 01:04:20,920 --> 01:04:23,280 Speaker 1: you just have to find that strength to keep going. 1234 01:04:23,880 --> 01:04:26,720 Speaker 1: Is a lot like the mentality I have out there 1235 01:04:26,720 --> 01:04:28,680 Speaker 1: on the field. So I don't know necessarily a requirement, 1236 01:04:28,920 --> 01:04:30,560 Speaker 1: but I can tell you it definitely has helped me. 1237 01:04:30,920 --> 01:04:33,240 Speaker 1: I mean, you've got to be super athletic, though, I 1238 01:04:33,240 --> 01:04:36,439 Speaker 1: mean you what is a preparation for a game. Yeah, 1239 01:04:36,560 --> 01:04:38,840 Speaker 1: it's uh, you know, during the off season, but there 1240 01:04:38,840 --> 01:04:41,560 Speaker 1: really is no off season with NFL officials are really 1241 01:04:41,840 --> 01:04:45,640 Speaker 1: even college officials, but it's, um, you know, that lifestyle 1242 01:04:45,680 --> 01:04:49,600 Speaker 1: of maintaining some type of strength and conditioning, if you will. 1243 01:04:49,640 --> 01:04:52,400 Speaker 1: And the older I get, I just wanted to where 1244 01:04:52,520 --> 01:04:54,600 Speaker 1: I don't um, I stay in shape enough to where 1245 01:04:54,640 --> 01:04:58,720 Speaker 1: I don't injure myself, right um. And yeah, you've you've 1246 01:04:58,760 --> 01:05:01,280 Speaker 1: got to be mobile and to go through agility drills 1247 01:05:01,320 --> 01:05:04,120 Speaker 1: at the beginning of the season. But at some point 1248 01:05:04,760 --> 01:05:07,760 Speaker 1: you get on up an age and all that athletic ability. 1249 01:05:07,880 --> 01:05:10,600 Speaker 1: I mean, I know that the mindsets there, But I'm 1250 01:05:10,640 --> 01:05:12,440 Speaker 1: gonna be throwing out the first pitch at my son's 1251 01:05:12,480 --> 01:05:15,600 Speaker 1: game this this Saturday, and Meridian and like cool and 1252 01:05:15,640 --> 01:05:17,760 Speaker 1: I'm like going, yeah, but it's been a long time 1253 01:05:17,800 --> 01:05:22,160 Speaker 1: since I've actually thrown a baseball from the mound to that. 1254 01:05:22,760 --> 01:05:24,520 Speaker 1: Uh yeah, when you get in your feutis and sixties, 1255 01:05:24,560 --> 01:05:26,440 Speaker 1: I think the athletic ability just goes away. I think 1256 01:05:26,440 --> 01:05:29,160 Speaker 1: it's more of like maintaining, uh, to where you don't 1257 01:05:29,160 --> 01:05:31,800 Speaker 1: get hurt. So for the picking for the Super Bowl, 1258 01:05:31,880 --> 01:05:33,760 Speaker 1: the process was it like, uh, I gotta get my 1259 01:05:33,880 --> 01:05:36,320 Speaker 1: forty time down if if I want to make this game? 1260 01:05:36,400 --> 01:05:39,320 Speaker 1: Or how does that? How what did that process happen? Now? 1261 01:05:39,600 --> 01:05:41,840 Speaker 1: I mean, yes, you've got to be able to move, Okay, 1262 01:05:41,920 --> 01:05:44,320 Speaker 1: you know we've got to be able to move, be 1263 01:05:44,400 --> 01:05:47,160 Speaker 1: in position, and be focused out there on the field. 1264 01:05:47,520 --> 01:05:50,080 Speaker 1: But those fort yard sprints really don't mean anything because 1265 01:05:50,680 --> 01:05:52,960 Speaker 1: you know, we can't keep up with the players out 1266 01:05:52,960 --> 01:05:54,760 Speaker 1: there on the field. We just I'm out there on 1267 01:05:54,840 --> 01:05:57,160 Speaker 1: the sideline. I'm hoping that the defensive team will come 1268 01:05:57,240 --> 01:05:58,800 Speaker 1: up and slow down the running back to where I 1269 01:05:58,840 --> 01:06:02,520 Speaker 1: catch up. Give me, give me a little relief there. 1270 01:06:02,560 --> 01:06:05,840 Speaker 1: But we uh were graded. Every game in the NFL 1271 01:06:05,960 --> 01:06:09,240 Speaker 1: is graded, really, yes, and so you start out, let's 1272 01:06:09,240 --> 01:06:11,760 Speaker 1: say with a hundred, and you can only go down 1273 01:06:11,800 --> 01:06:14,640 Speaker 1: from there. So it's like you want to make sure 1274 01:06:14,680 --> 01:06:17,880 Speaker 1: you're correct and if you throw something that's incorrect, Uh, 1275 01:06:18,000 --> 01:06:21,520 Speaker 1: that hurts your chances of playoffs, and the the ranking 1276 01:06:21,520 --> 01:06:24,240 Speaker 1: from number one to number two is a very very 1277 01:06:24,280 --> 01:06:28,040 Speaker 1: small percentage, so it's um, yeah, so every every game 1278 01:06:28,120 --> 01:06:31,000 Speaker 1: is graded for every official. Wow, okay, I did. I 1279 01:06:31,000 --> 01:06:33,080 Speaker 1: had no idea that that didn't happened. That's cool. Do 1280 01:06:33,120 --> 01:06:35,720 Speaker 1: you have a Twitter? Do you see what people are 1281 01:06:35,760 --> 01:06:39,040 Speaker 1: talking about when when the officials are happening during during 1282 01:06:39,080 --> 01:06:41,560 Speaker 1: the game. Yes, so I do have a Twitter, but 1283 01:06:41,680 --> 01:06:44,280 Speaker 1: it's it's kind of secretive. But I've started to like 1284 01:06:44,320 --> 01:06:47,680 Speaker 1: tweet stuff about my kids because they're My oldest is 1285 01:06:47,720 --> 01:06:50,680 Speaker 1: the middle infielder, just having the time of his life 1286 01:06:50,680 --> 01:06:53,760 Speaker 1: at Meridian Nice, and I have a junior that is 1287 01:06:54,280 --> 01:06:57,160 Speaker 1: uh six five catching and is a switch hitter. So 1288 01:06:57,600 --> 01:07:00,480 Speaker 1: I'm starting to kind of want to tweet stuff about them. 1289 01:07:00,480 --> 01:07:04,880 Speaker 1: But as far as the stuff that's on Twitter or 1290 01:07:04,920 --> 01:07:07,600 Speaker 1: any of the social media outlets, it doesn't bother me. 1291 01:07:07,600 --> 01:07:11,920 Speaker 1: It's kind of comical if you people sit behind a 1292 01:07:11,920 --> 01:07:14,680 Speaker 1: computer screen or on a phone and they feel as 1293 01:07:14,680 --> 01:07:17,720 Speaker 1: if they're God and they're experts about everything, but I 1294 01:07:17,720 --> 01:07:19,880 Speaker 1: don't see them out there applying themselves, you know. So 1295 01:07:20,000 --> 01:07:23,720 Speaker 1: it's just it's funny. Are there any specific calls you've 1296 01:07:23,760 --> 01:07:26,280 Speaker 1: made at any point in your career that really stick 1297 01:07:26,320 --> 01:07:30,200 Speaker 1: with you, for better or for worse. I would say 1298 01:07:30,240 --> 01:07:33,360 Speaker 1: there are calls that you make that you know it 1299 01:07:33,520 --> 01:07:35,920 Speaker 1: impacted the game, and you want those to be in 1300 01:07:35,960 --> 01:07:40,160 Speaker 1: a very positive way. And then the ones that you 1301 01:07:40,200 --> 01:07:43,000 Speaker 1: sit back and it's that one play that just eats 1302 01:07:43,040 --> 01:07:45,360 Speaker 1: at you or keeps you up at night. I would 1303 01:07:45,400 --> 01:07:48,400 Speaker 1: be lying if I said that they're they're not those, 1304 01:07:48,440 --> 01:07:51,240 Speaker 1: but you just have to say, you know, put it 1305 01:07:51,240 --> 01:07:53,680 Speaker 1: to bed. There was a play my rookie year that 1306 01:07:54,600 --> 01:07:56,480 Speaker 1: I called a fourth time out and there's only three 1307 01:07:56,560 --> 01:07:59,200 Speaker 1: per half and it's just wanted to crawl underneath the turf. 1308 01:07:59,320 --> 01:08:02,280 Speaker 1: But you you learn from You learn from those, and 1309 01:08:02,320 --> 01:08:05,040 Speaker 1: you just have to have short term memory because if 1310 01:08:05,080 --> 01:08:07,479 Speaker 1: you're still thinking about it the next Sunday you work. 1311 01:08:08,280 --> 01:08:10,800 Speaker 1: It's kind of like playing sports. If you make an 1312 01:08:11,160 --> 01:08:13,200 Speaker 1: you better clear your head because the ball is coming 1313 01:08:13,280 --> 01:08:16,240 Speaker 1: right back at you. Yeah. I was umpiring for um 1314 01:08:16,280 --> 01:08:19,040 Speaker 1: one of my brother's little league games, like fifteen years ago, 1315 01:08:19,400 --> 01:08:21,920 Speaker 1: and I was on first base and it was a 1316 01:08:21,960 --> 01:08:24,640 Speaker 1: really tight game. It's little league in New England, like 1317 01:08:24,680 --> 01:08:28,439 Speaker 1: didn't mean anything, and I remember saying out, but I 1318 01:08:28,479 --> 01:08:32,200 Speaker 1: did the safe sign and the parents on the side. 1319 01:08:32,240 --> 01:08:34,439 Speaker 1: You would have thought that I made the biggest mistake 1320 01:08:34,520 --> 01:08:37,479 Speaker 1: of my entire you know, career, and that was the 1321 01:08:37,560 --> 01:08:39,400 Speaker 1: last time I did it. So I think there's something 1322 01:08:39,439 --> 01:08:43,200 Speaker 1: in you that is definitely better better than me. Let's 1323 01:08:43,240 --> 01:08:45,800 Speaker 1: just put it that way. I don't know. Somebody asked 1324 01:08:45,800 --> 01:08:47,960 Speaker 1: me one time, I go, how do you get prepared 1325 01:08:48,040 --> 01:08:50,559 Speaker 1: for like the players and the coaches? And I go 1326 01:08:51,240 --> 01:08:54,120 Speaker 1: little league football, flag football and little league like it's 1327 01:08:54,200 --> 01:08:58,080 Speaker 1: the pee wee league, the fans and the coaches. It's nuts. Yeah, 1328 01:08:58,360 --> 01:09:00,800 Speaker 1: so I can how brutal it was when you did that. 1329 01:09:01,040 --> 01:09:03,479 Speaker 1: Oh yeah, no, I still still don't sleep at night 1330 01:09:03,520 --> 01:09:05,880 Speaker 1: because of the fifteen years later. Do you have to 1331 01:09:06,120 --> 01:09:07,960 Speaker 1: feel like you ever have to sort of talk more 1332 01:09:08,000 --> 01:09:11,560 Speaker 1: smack or sort of not you know, hide your femininity, 1333 01:09:11,640 --> 01:09:14,479 Speaker 1: but also sort of like show these boys, you know, 1334 01:09:14,640 --> 01:09:17,880 Speaker 1: these men, these huge football players and coaches like you 1335 01:09:17,920 --> 01:09:23,120 Speaker 1: mean business. Never never, absolutely never. I just I've learned 1336 01:09:23,160 --> 01:09:26,400 Speaker 1: this through probably athletics, that I've got approved to myself 1337 01:09:26,400 --> 01:09:29,080 Speaker 1: that I belong because it starts with me. But maybe 1338 01:09:29,320 --> 01:09:32,479 Speaker 1: talk more smack. I mean, I just I'm I like 1339 01:09:32,560 --> 01:09:34,280 Speaker 1: to have a good time out there, and I take 1340 01:09:34,320 --> 01:09:36,960 Speaker 1: it back to when I was playing. I hated the officials, 1341 01:09:36,960 --> 01:09:39,880 Speaker 1: and truth be told, hated me. So I just don't 1342 01:09:39,920 --> 01:09:42,160 Speaker 1: want to be recognized. If you will all, I want 1343 01:09:42,200 --> 01:09:44,080 Speaker 1: to do my job and have a good time while 1344 01:09:44,120 --> 01:09:46,760 Speaker 1: I'm doing it. That's awesome. What plans do you think 1345 01:09:46,760 --> 01:09:48,920 Speaker 1: we could put in place in order to make officiating 1346 01:09:48,960 --> 01:09:52,280 Speaker 1: and coaching careers more commonplace for women and young girls. 1347 01:09:52,720 --> 01:09:55,120 Speaker 1: I believe that the NFL is doing that. I think 1348 01:09:55,120 --> 01:09:58,719 Speaker 1: you're seeing a lot more of course, females and various 1349 01:09:58,800 --> 01:10:02,240 Speaker 1: roles within the NFL. And it's funny when the NFL 1350 01:10:02,320 --> 01:10:05,400 Speaker 1: does something the other conferences in colleges and it just 1351 01:10:05,479 --> 01:10:09,400 Speaker 1: kind of trinkles down and it's just letting them get 1352 01:10:09,439 --> 01:10:13,000 Speaker 1: in at a grassroots level. Start coaching your peewee, your 1353 01:10:13,000 --> 01:10:16,120 Speaker 1: son's team, or your brother's team, just and working your 1354 01:10:16,160 --> 01:10:19,519 Speaker 1: way up. And I truly believe when they're seeing more 1355 01:10:19,560 --> 01:10:23,559 Speaker 1: women out there, more women will get involved. Absolutely. Um, 1356 01:10:23,600 --> 01:10:27,000 Speaker 1: do you have a favorite call or signal or hand signal? 1357 01:10:27,040 --> 01:10:30,880 Speaker 1: Because these are these are so fun to watch. Yeah, 1358 01:10:30,960 --> 01:10:32,280 Speaker 1: I just want to make sure I get it right. 1359 01:10:32,280 --> 01:10:35,400 Speaker 1: I definitely don't want to call pass interference and give 1360 01:10:35,479 --> 01:10:37,439 Speaker 1: the hand signal for holding kind of like the the 1361 01:10:37,479 --> 01:10:42,360 Speaker 1: out and the safe. Uh, it's the unusual ones that 1362 01:10:42,400 --> 01:10:44,960 Speaker 1: we don't call to often that you go, oh gosh, 1363 01:10:44,960 --> 01:10:46,920 Speaker 1: what is it, you know, when I'm giving my preliminary 1364 01:10:47,200 --> 01:10:50,720 Speaker 1: something like that, But no, it's whatever. So I'm not 1365 01:10:50,840 --> 01:10:53,240 Speaker 1: known some gestures you can't do out there, you know 1366 01:10:53,360 --> 01:10:56,800 Speaker 1: that you would like to do. Absolutely well, this is 1367 01:10:56,840 --> 01:10:59,160 Speaker 1: well above my pay grade, and I mean everything is, 1368 01:10:59,200 --> 01:11:01,240 Speaker 1: but I couldn't help but think there are some official 1369 01:11:01,600 --> 01:11:04,519 Speaker 1: hand signals that could use a more modern upgrade. And 1370 01:11:04,560 --> 01:11:06,600 Speaker 1: I have a few ideas in mind to kind of 1371 01:11:06,640 --> 01:11:08,320 Speaker 1: liven things up. Do you mind if I run them 1372 01:11:08,320 --> 01:11:10,920 Speaker 1: by you run the bat? Okay, So this first one 1373 01:11:10,960 --> 01:11:13,519 Speaker 1: I don't believe has its own specific signal yet. It's 1374 01:11:13,560 --> 01:11:16,280 Speaker 1: the fumble, Sarah, And I think I'm thinking the best 1375 01:11:16,320 --> 01:11:18,360 Speaker 1: way to illustrate a fumble is by making a total 1376 01:11:18,520 --> 01:11:21,800 Speaker 1: yike's face and like shifting your eyes back and forth 1377 01:11:21,840 --> 01:11:26,080 Speaker 1: and then just kind of shrugging anxiously like like this um, 1378 01:11:26,120 --> 01:11:29,519 Speaker 1: just like a big whoops moment. Thoughts suggestions like this 1379 01:11:29,560 --> 01:11:32,200 Speaker 1: is a team effort, Sarah, I'm totally open to your 1380 01:11:32,720 --> 01:11:34,679 Speaker 1: So the funny thing is, we don't do a signal 1381 01:11:34,760 --> 01:11:37,840 Speaker 1: during a fumble that we do throw a bing bag, okay, 1382 01:11:37,960 --> 01:11:40,120 Speaker 1: and that's kind of like oops, I guess if you 1383 01:11:40,160 --> 01:11:43,760 Speaker 1: throw it, you know, Yeah, so this bumble okay, good, 1384 01:11:43,800 --> 01:11:45,680 Speaker 1: So next time I'll be looking to see if you 1385 01:11:45,680 --> 01:11:47,960 Speaker 1: know you're doing this out on the field. Um. The 1386 01:11:48,000 --> 01:11:50,080 Speaker 1: next one is delay of games, so if you of 1387 01:11:50,120 --> 01:11:53,360 Speaker 1: course know the current signal like this, well, no offense. 1388 01:11:53,400 --> 01:11:56,160 Speaker 1: But that doesn't make any sense at all. So here's 1389 01:11:56,160 --> 01:11:59,080 Speaker 1: what I propose. You tap your wrists repeatedly like your 1390 01:11:59,160 --> 01:12:01,680 Speaker 1: cartoon way too in line, and just go ahead and 1391 01:12:01,680 --> 01:12:04,160 Speaker 1: throwing an eye roll or smirk for a good measure, 1392 01:12:04,240 --> 01:12:08,840 Speaker 1: like yeah, like the back judge does the delay of games. 1393 01:12:08,880 --> 01:12:11,439 Speaker 1: So I'll pitch it to the back judges and say, hey, 1394 01:12:11,479 --> 01:12:14,120 Speaker 1: I think we should consider this. Okay. That's that's all 1395 01:12:14,120 --> 01:12:16,360 Speaker 1: I'm asking for, just to get just to get an introduction. 1396 01:12:16,439 --> 01:12:20,040 Speaker 1: That's that's awesome. So now this one coincidentally also doesn't 1397 01:12:20,040 --> 01:12:23,280 Speaker 1: add up for me, Sarah. It's the personal foul, and 1398 01:12:23,320 --> 01:12:26,040 Speaker 1: I mean, like, what is that? I think we totally 1399 01:12:26,080 --> 01:12:29,320 Speaker 1: scrap it and instead act out that Denzel Washington like 1400 01:12:29,439 --> 01:12:31,800 Speaker 1: thank God gift, you know, the one where he puts 1401 01:12:31,840 --> 01:12:34,799 Speaker 1: his hand on his heart and takes a side of relief. Um, 1402 01:12:34,880 --> 01:12:38,080 Speaker 1: that feels personal, like any feedback there. I mean, it's 1403 01:12:38,080 --> 01:12:41,320 Speaker 1: more expressive when we when we call it in the signal. 1404 01:12:41,360 --> 01:12:43,080 Speaker 1: I thought you were gonna say, it's more like punching 1405 01:12:43,240 --> 01:12:46,680 Speaker 1: or something. You Yeah, yeah, they did the business. I 1406 01:12:46,720 --> 01:12:49,200 Speaker 1: think there was an official that said at one time. Okay, 1407 01:12:49,280 --> 01:12:52,040 Speaker 1: so do you think Washington to ploup for him? That's good. 1408 01:12:52,240 --> 01:12:54,320 Speaker 1: I think that's good. Yeah. So if you wouldn't mind 1409 01:12:54,320 --> 01:12:56,920 Speaker 1: taking these up the ranks, um, I'm happy to to 1410 01:12:57,000 --> 01:12:59,679 Speaker 1: pitch these at at you know, in a meeting or whatever, 1411 01:12:59,720 --> 01:13:03,000 Speaker 1: if you think that they're worthwhile. Well, like you, there 1412 01:13:03,000 --> 01:13:05,040 Speaker 1: are a lot of other people that are way about 1413 01:13:05,080 --> 01:13:07,800 Speaker 1: my pay grade, so I'll to them that have more 1414 01:13:08,360 --> 01:13:10,479 Speaker 1: pool I guess if you will. But yeah, I can 1415 01:13:10,479 --> 01:13:13,640 Speaker 1: talk to somebody. Okay, great, that's that's awesome, Thank you 1416 01:13:13,720 --> 01:13:16,360 Speaker 1: so much. Um. All right, Sarah, before I let you go, 1417 01:13:16,400 --> 01:13:18,280 Speaker 1: I want to play a game we play with all 1418 01:13:18,320 --> 01:13:22,040 Speaker 1: our celebrity official guests. It's called good Call, Bad Call, 1419 01:13:22,320 --> 01:13:24,479 Speaker 1: And I'm going to read through some statements, some some 1420 01:13:24,520 --> 01:13:28,040 Speaker 1: football related, some not so much, rapid fire style, and 1421 01:13:28,120 --> 01:13:30,240 Speaker 1: you tell me if each is a good call or 1422 01:13:30,280 --> 01:13:33,880 Speaker 1: a bad call. Alright, signing Beyonce to a lifetime Super 1423 01:13:33,920 --> 01:13:37,840 Speaker 1: Bowl halftime show contract. That's a great call. She is. 1424 01:13:37,880 --> 01:13:40,920 Speaker 1: She's bad to the bone because she could have people 1425 01:13:40,920 --> 01:13:43,080 Speaker 1: in front of her, so others, you know, I mean 1426 01:13:43,680 --> 01:13:48,080 Speaker 1: yeah yeah. Putting olives in a nacho dish meant for 1427 01:13:48,120 --> 01:13:51,880 Speaker 1: a group good call. Bad call, bad call, bad call. 1428 01:13:52,240 --> 01:13:57,000 Speaker 1: Wearing vertical stripes very slimming. Yeah, good call. Good call. 1429 01:13:57,320 --> 01:14:01,960 Speaker 1: Listening to Murder mystery podcasts before you go to sleep. Yeah, 1430 01:14:02,040 --> 01:14:06,840 Speaker 1: bad call. Screaming at the refs at a youth sporting event. M. 1431 01:14:09,200 --> 01:14:13,400 Speaker 1: Bad call. Doing the gritty t D dance after making 1432 01:14:13,439 --> 01:14:16,960 Speaker 1: a solid point in a business meeting. Oh yeah, definitely, 1433 01:14:17,000 --> 01:14:20,960 Speaker 1: good call. Absolutely YEA. Proposing to a significant other at 1434 01:14:21,000 --> 01:14:26,439 Speaker 1: a football stadium, M bad god right, starting an email 1435 01:14:26,479 --> 01:14:31,120 Speaker 1: with the words it's nice to e meet you. Bad call. 1436 01:14:32,080 --> 01:14:36,320 Speaker 1: Doing a TikTok dance on your opponent's logo. M M. 1437 01:14:37,520 --> 01:14:41,840 Speaker 1: I'll be politically correct here. Bad call. Yes, parting your 1438 01:14:41,880 --> 01:14:44,280 Speaker 1: hair on the side a k A. The side part. 1439 01:14:45,000 --> 01:14:49,160 Speaker 1: Yeah yeah, good call me too. Rhythmically challenged coaches doing 1440 01:14:49,240 --> 01:14:53,880 Speaker 1: locker room dances with the team. Oh, good call. Eating 1441 01:14:53,880 --> 01:14:57,920 Speaker 1: an entire sheet cake minutes ahead of kickoff. Bad call. 1442 01:14:59,120 --> 01:15:03,760 Speaker 1: Celebrating a victory by smashing your body into tables. That 1443 01:15:03,960 --> 01:15:10,080 Speaker 1: call stupid. Rebooting sex in the City without Samantha, Oh, 1444 01:15:10,760 --> 01:15:15,800 Speaker 1: terrible call. Terrible Playing catch with the Lombardi Trophy on 1445 01:15:15,840 --> 01:15:20,840 Speaker 1: a boat. I played the fifth Going on vacation by 1446 01:15:20,840 --> 01:15:25,040 Speaker 1: yourself A good call asking a woman who works for 1447 01:15:25,080 --> 01:15:29,040 Speaker 1: the NFL, But do you actually like football? Bad call? 1448 01:15:30,240 --> 01:15:32,760 Speaker 1: All right, last question before I let you go um 1449 01:15:32,920 --> 01:15:35,439 Speaker 1: practice all those new hand signals that I already taught you. 1450 01:15:35,760 --> 01:15:38,439 Speaker 1: Do you have a secret handshake with the other women 1451 01:15:38,520 --> 01:15:43,439 Speaker 1: in the NFL? And can I be included? I don't currently, 1452 01:15:43,479 --> 01:15:46,200 Speaker 1: but now you've got my wheel spinning, So maybe we'll 1453 01:15:46,200 --> 01:15:48,000 Speaker 1: come up with one and you'll be the first one 1454 01:15:48,040 --> 01:15:50,240 Speaker 1: that I'll do it with. How about that? That's perfect? 1455 01:15:50,240 --> 01:15:52,240 Speaker 1: And I'll be looking, you know, next season for you 1456 01:15:52,520 --> 01:15:54,120 Speaker 1: and once in a while if you do this, I'm 1457 01:15:54,160 --> 01:15:56,160 Speaker 1: gonna be like, that's a Ricky Hollywood shout out. That's 1458 01:15:56,200 --> 01:15:59,479 Speaker 1: exactly right, Sarah. Thank you so much and congrats on 1459 01:15:59,520 --> 01:16:02,400 Speaker 1: all your six us. It's been so amazing to watch Ah. 1460 01:16:02,439 --> 01:16:03,280 Speaker 1: Thanks for having me