WEBVTT - Talkin’ Cowboys: Best Dak Yet? 0:00:03.800 --> 0:00:06.320 The following He's a production of Dallas Cowboys dot Com 0:00:06.320 --> 0:00:15.760 and the Dallas Cowboys Football Club. Cowboys. This He's Talking Cowboys, 0:00:16.200 --> 0:00:19.919 screening live from the Dallas Cowboys Worldwhours at the Star 0:00:20.040 --> 0:00:32.000 in Friscoota. And now your hosts Isaiah Stanback, heck My Harrison, 0:00:32.360 --> 0:00:37.199 Rob Phillips and Kyle Yeoman's It is a very special 0:00:37.240 --> 0:00:42.360 Wednesday edition of Talking Cowboys presented by Tostitos, the official 0:00:42.479 --> 0:00:46.080 chip in the official dip of the Dallas Cowboys. Here 0:00:46.120 --> 0:00:50.560 from the SWBC studios at the Star in Frisco, alongside 0:00:50.560 --> 0:00:54.480 two very special Talking Cowboys guests, not really guests to 0:00:54.560 --> 0:00:57.160 Dallas Cowboys dot Com because they are all over the 0:00:57.240 --> 0:01:00.160 place in terms of this website and the content end 0:01:00.160 --> 0:01:02.160 of the media team. But David Hellman back for the 0:01:02.200 --> 0:01:05.200 second straight day. We liked you so much we invited 0:01:05.200 --> 0:01:09.280 you back. Thanks Kyle, it was I'm trying to match 0:01:09.319 --> 0:01:11.200 your energy right now. I don't know how. I don't 0:01:11.200 --> 0:01:13.360 know how you do this nine am show every day. Man. 0:01:13.760 --> 0:01:18.199 Me and Barry are like, oh, hold on, you gotta 0:01:18.200 --> 0:01:20.080 get a little coffee and you get up a little 0:01:20.080 --> 0:01:22.120 early and get a run in. I didn't get a 0:01:22.160 --> 0:01:25.360 run in. I'll tell you that all my plant, like 0:01:25.400 --> 0:01:28.520 all my I got like a regimented routine, like because 0:01:28.720 --> 0:01:30.759 our shows not till like ten thirty. So I do 0:01:30.800 --> 0:01:33.920 the workout. I come in and then when I knew 0:01:33.920 --> 0:01:35.120 I was on the nine o'clock show, I was like, 0:01:35.160 --> 0:01:38.120 all right, all that's out the one. I'm like, all right, 0:01:38.240 --> 0:01:40.160 I'll be here. I just get to work and worry 0:01:40.160 --> 0:01:42.119 about the rest of it later. I guess be here 0:01:42.160 --> 0:01:45.200 in body, sometimes in mind and figure it out. But 0:01:45.240 --> 0:01:48.560 we've also got Barried Church. Yes, sir, what's going on? Man? 0:01:48.920 --> 0:01:51.600 Nothing much? How are you amazing? Man's first date here 0:01:51.640 --> 0:01:56.080 on was this talking Kyle. You gotta remember like show good? No, 0:01:56.400 --> 0:01:58.560 see that you don't though, Barry's just like, give me 0:01:58.640 --> 0:02:02.600 the microphone. We'll see what I gotta matter. He's on 0:02:02.680 --> 0:02:05.120 a couple of the helmet approach. Man. I love it. Yes, 0:02:05.240 --> 0:02:07.360 Now we don't have Danny McCray today. We had a 0:02:07.360 --> 0:02:10.919 scheduling conflict. Is ultimately why Danny is not available. He'll 0:02:10.960 --> 0:02:12.720 be on the later show. You were on Hanging On 0:02:12.960 --> 0:02:15.000 Hanging with the Boys yesterday. Yeah, yes, some day. So 0:02:15.040 --> 0:02:17.760 we just flip flop Berry and Danny and then we 0:02:17.880 --> 0:02:20.720 still got Danny represented with the Survivor T shirt on 0:02:20.800 --> 0:02:25.720 so tonight season forty one, the music in the background, 0:02:25.760 --> 0:02:28.000 Here we go, There we go, Team Danny. Man, let's 0:02:28.000 --> 0:02:29.440 see what he can do. I hope he only kicked on. 0:02:30.120 --> 0:02:32.079 Do you think there's a chance. I don't know that. 0:02:32.280 --> 0:02:34.360 I hope not. You know, there's some shady people. Have 0:02:34.440 --> 0:02:37.000 y'all been watching it? Y's some real shady cats. But 0:02:37.040 --> 0:02:38.839 I guess you gotta be that way, you know, going 0:02:38.880 --> 0:02:41.680 into that Survivator game, I would get my ass kicked 0:02:41.720 --> 0:02:44.280 so bad. Oh, you and me both. I can't strategize 0:02:44.360 --> 0:02:46.760 like that. You would just tell everybody I got im 0:02:46.760 --> 0:02:49.240 just like, yeah, this is what I'm gonna do, or 0:02:49.320 --> 0:02:51.080 like whatever. Like I don't even know how to like 0:02:51.160 --> 0:02:54.079 play people like that. I couldn't if I thought you 0:02:54.200 --> 0:02:59.320 was my boy man bad. Yeah it took a personal Yeah, yeah, 0:03:00.080 --> 0:03:02.040 I think most of us would. And we'll see what 0:03:02.120 --> 0:03:06.000 Danny's able to do tonight. On about the fight counsel, 0:03:06.040 --> 0:03:10.919 I'm flipping everything. We're not doing. Goodness, all right, We've 0:03:10.960 --> 0:03:14.280 got some some news to catch up on surrounding the 0:03:14.360 --> 0:03:19.280 Dallas Cowboys, and it's not the news you want to hear. Uh, yesterday. 0:03:19.360 --> 0:03:24.919 Word comes down that Damante Kazy was arrested Tuesday morning, 0:03:24.919 --> 0:03:27.639 and I don't really want to get into the details 0:03:27.639 --> 0:03:29.639 of the charges unless you want to go that direction. 0:03:30.680 --> 0:03:33.760 D WI. And it's a very I mean, it's it's 0:03:33.840 --> 0:03:37.880 classic bye week stuff. You know, you get days off 0:03:37.880 --> 0:03:40.280 of work, you don't have practice, you don't have the routine. 0:03:40.440 --> 0:03:44.280 You want to let off some steam. Uh yeah, I 0:03:44.280 --> 0:03:46.400 mean yeah, I mean that that is that's that's all 0:03:46.440 --> 0:03:49.400 we got is d WI charge I think is a 0:03:49.440 --> 0:03:52.680 misdemeanor first offense whatever. I mean, that part's not really important. 0:03:52.680 --> 0:03:57.960 We'll see what happens to him. It's just not funny. Funny, 0:03:57.960 --> 0:03:59.640 it's not the right word. But like the fact that 0:04:00.520 --> 0:04:04.280 on Monday night, like literally by week, literally like the 0:04:04.320 --> 0:04:07.119 first day that you could possibly get into some mischief. 0:04:07.640 --> 0:04:09.600 There we go there it is boom, It hits you 0:04:09.760 --> 0:04:11.800 right there and you hate to see it. You know, 0:04:11.840 --> 0:04:13.640 you hate to see it. You know mistakes were made 0:04:13.640 --> 0:04:16.240 out there, and um, you know it's just when the 0:04:16.320 --> 0:04:19.039 spotlight's on you like this, you know, with the Cowboys 0:04:19.080 --> 0:04:21.880 being the star, you know, everybody's gonna have their spotlight 0:04:21.960 --> 0:04:24.159 on you. You just gotta be more careful. You know. 0:04:24.200 --> 0:04:25.800 That's that's a simple asswer to it. Just got to 0:04:25.800 --> 0:04:29.080 be more careful. There's ubers out there, there's backup players, cars, 0:04:29.120 --> 0:04:32.320 there's you know, transportation available, so if you know you're 0:04:32.360 --> 0:04:34.120 gonna have a couple beverages out there, just you know, 0:04:34.160 --> 0:04:37.599 playing accordingly. Yeah, there's really no excuse to it. You 0:04:37.600 --> 0:04:40.760 get there's so many resources. And whether you play for 0:04:40.800 --> 0:04:43.680 the Cowboys or not, I mean that's that's one thing 0:04:43.680 --> 0:04:45.520 you can't afford to do, is go out there and 0:04:45.600 --> 0:04:48.280 drink and drive. I don't. I don't want to be 0:04:48.520 --> 0:04:51.000 a complete hypocrite. And by that I just like I'm 0:04:51.000 --> 0:04:55.599 not a saint. I've done I've made mistakes too. Every Yeah, 0:04:55.640 --> 0:04:59.279 but yeah, man, the NFL puts every resource in front 0:04:59.320 --> 0:05:02.000 of you to not let this happen. Like there's literally 0:05:02.040 --> 0:05:05.640 a number that they give you that you call and say, hey, 0:05:05.839 --> 0:05:08.159 it's me, I'm with you know, I need a ride 0:05:08.200 --> 0:05:10.479 like that. The NFL does that for its players free 0:05:10.480 --> 0:05:14.120 of charge, which I think is amazing. That's fantastic, good, 0:05:14.200 --> 0:05:16.080 good idea by the NFL, which I feel like I 0:05:16.080 --> 0:05:19.880 don't say very often, but you gotta take advantage of it, man, 0:05:19.960 --> 0:05:23.520 And I mean, like again, I've made mistakes in my life, 0:05:23.520 --> 0:05:26.480 and like me, the broke sports writers like, oh, I 0:05:26.520 --> 0:05:28.599 don't want to uber all the way back across town 0:05:28.600 --> 0:05:30.960 and get my car tomorrow. But like I think, if 0:05:30.960 --> 0:05:33.000 I made NFL money, I think I'd be all right, Well, 0:05:32.960 --> 0:05:34.560 you'll be able to get that, you know. You know, 0:05:34.640 --> 0:05:36.839 like I said, mistakes were me and hopefully he learns 0:05:36.839 --> 0:05:40.400 from it. Sucks. Yeah, I'm and you know, there's no 0:05:40.440 --> 0:05:43.240 more there's no more availability this week. It's the bye week, 0:05:43.320 --> 0:05:46.120 so I'm sure Jerry or Stephen Jones is going to 0:05:46.200 --> 0:05:48.520 be asked about it at some point this week. Um, 0:05:49.040 --> 0:05:51.880 I really, I don't remember the precedent for like discipline. 0:05:51.960 --> 0:05:54.880 Like technically you could say he's in violation of the 0:05:54.960 --> 0:05:59.440 league's personal conduct policy. They could suspend him. But as 0:05:59.480 --> 0:06:01.800 we were talking, I'm about before the show, sometimes the 0:06:01.839 --> 0:06:06.599 wheels of NFL justice turned very slowly. So I really 0:06:06.640 --> 0:06:08.520 I don't know what to expect. I don't know if 0:06:08.520 --> 0:06:10.200 he has to miss time. I don't know if the 0:06:10.240 --> 0:06:13.600 Cowboys will impose discipline on him. You ever, Bury, do 0:06:13.640 --> 0:06:16.640 you ever remember somebody getting like suspended by the team 0:06:17.080 --> 0:06:19.720 for doing something? Not like that. I remember getting a 0:06:19.760 --> 0:06:21.760 lot of fines, like some people will get fines and 0:06:21.800 --> 0:06:23.720 stuff like that of that nature. But as far as 0:06:23.720 --> 0:06:26.680 getting suspended for something like this, I haven't seen it 0:06:26.760 --> 0:06:29.400 unless it was like, you know, like a car crash 0:06:29.480 --> 0:06:31.479 or something like that happened. But you know, just getting 0:06:31.480 --> 0:06:34.640 a DWI. I'm not sure if anybody's ever got suspended. 0:06:35.080 --> 0:06:38.560 I feel like it's rare for the team to suspend 0:06:38.560 --> 0:06:40.480 it exactly, you know, like it goes to the NFL 0:06:40.600 --> 0:06:43.000 or something like that. So it's a wait and see. 0:06:43.040 --> 0:06:46.000 It's it's unfortunate, and like I said, it's just it's 0:06:46.080 --> 0:06:49.679 kind of ironic that literally one night into the first 0:06:49.720 --> 0:06:52.679 week off of the year, and hopefully nothing else happens 0:06:52.720 --> 0:06:54.840 like this throughout the rest of the year. Maybe this 0:06:55.000 --> 0:06:56.599 one gets it out of the way. Let's start with 0:06:56.640 --> 0:06:59.080 the week, let's get out, let's get through the knock 0:06:59.160 --> 0:07:02.000 this weekend out. Uh. So, I know you said you 0:07:02.000 --> 0:07:07.160 didn't remember the total president in terms of potential NFL discipline, 0:07:07.200 --> 0:07:09.720 But what is that normally range for if it isn't 0:07:09.960 --> 0:07:12.400 indeed a violation of a conduct policy. I gotta be 0:07:12.440 --> 0:07:14.520 honest with you, like case by case, for all the 0:07:14.600 --> 0:07:17.120 jokes about how the Cowboys can't stay out of trouble. 0:07:17.280 --> 0:07:20.840 I don't remember. Okay, actually I do. Um, Nolan Carroll 0:07:20.920 --> 0:07:22.520 had this happened to him? Were you still here? And 0:07:22.680 --> 0:07:24.200 I was gone? I was my first year in Jackson 0:07:24.200 --> 0:07:28.760 when Yeah, Nolan Carroll had that happened to him in 0:07:28.800 --> 0:07:32.400 the off season, And I don't he didn't miss, he 0:07:32.760 --> 0:07:34.920 wasn't suspended. I think he had to go through the 0:07:35.240 --> 0:07:37.760 whole process and again it dragged out like there wasn't 0:07:37.800 --> 0:07:41.720 resolution for a few months. So uh, yeah, I don't. 0:07:41.520 --> 0:07:43.360 I don't really have a good idea of what the press. 0:07:43.440 --> 0:07:46.240 I wonder, can they put you in the program for that? 0:07:46.600 --> 0:07:50.040 I wonder, because you know, I don't could do that. 0:07:50.120 --> 0:07:53.040 I don't know. I wouldn't want to speculate. I don't know. Um. 0:07:53.200 --> 0:07:56.120 I Like I said, I think Jerry Jones usually talks 0:07:56.480 --> 0:07:59.840 on Fridays with the one oh five three the fan. Yeah, 0:08:00.040 --> 0:08:02.800 I'm sure he'll be asked about this man. Maybe there 0:08:02.800 --> 0:08:05.400 will be some clarity that he'll probably have a much 0:08:05.440 --> 0:08:09.040 better idea than we do. Something that says first offense 0:08:09.360 --> 0:08:15.280 NFL Substance Abuse Policy, DUI one game. Okay, that's I 0:08:15.280 --> 0:08:17.600 wouldn't be surprised if he eventually had to miss a 0:08:17.600 --> 0:08:19.200 game because of this. I don't know if it would 0:08:19.240 --> 0:08:22.840 be Minnesota or somewhere down the line, but just something 0:08:22.880 --> 0:08:25.120 to keep an eye on. Well, I promised this to 0:08:25.120 --> 0:08:27.920 transfer the CBA. By the way, Okay, thanks, thank you, 0:08:27.960 --> 0:08:31.480 bean Uh. This is this was planned prior to the news, 0:08:31.560 --> 0:08:33.800 so I don't think that this transition was planned off 0:08:33.840 --> 0:08:36.200 of Demante Kyz. But of course, since we have a 0:08:36.240 --> 0:08:39.520 safety in studio, yes, I want to talk a little safety. Okay, 0:08:39.600 --> 0:08:41.679 I want to talk and see what have you seen 0:08:42.360 --> 0:08:44.439 through the first six weeks of the season that is 0:08:44.480 --> 0:08:47.640 a positive from the safety position. We'll get to the 0:08:47.679 --> 0:08:49.559 negative here in a minute. And what is something that 0:08:49.640 --> 0:08:51.720 stood out to you in terms of those guys? Curse 0:08:51.800 --> 0:08:54.080 Man Curse has stood out to me a lot so far. 0:08:54.320 --> 0:08:56.240 Um And I thought this guy coming in from Detroit, 0:08:56.320 --> 0:08:58.679 you know, he was a special teams guy primarily up there, 0:08:58.720 --> 0:08:59.920 so I thought he was just going to come in 0:09:00.000 --> 0:09:02.200 to be one of those core special teams guys maybe 0:09:02.320 --> 0:09:05.600 help out here and there. But I've been surprisingly impressed 0:09:05.640 --> 0:09:08.080 by his play, especially as man and man ability. I mean, 0:09:08.120 --> 0:09:10.079 this guy is a bigger guy. You know, he's six four, 0:09:10.120 --> 0:09:12.120 He's a slender guy, but he's a big dude that's 0:09:12.160 --> 0:09:14.920 usually not able to move as quick as m most 0:09:15.000 --> 0:09:17.040 smaller safeties are. But he's able to go out there 0:09:17.040 --> 0:09:18.520 and move with all the all the all the tight 0:09:18.600 --> 0:09:20.720 ends out there. We've seen him lock up Cook out there. 0:09:20.720 --> 0:09:23.040 WHI should have been an interception. I mean, the guy is, 0:09:23.120 --> 0:09:25.560 he's doing all the things right, and he's playing in 0:09:25.600 --> 0:09:29.120 the box well well better than anybody I've seen lately. 0:09:29.120 --> 0:09:32.520 So to me, he's playing extremely well. Kazy, he's doing 0:09:32.600 --> 0:09:34.160 a couple of things good back there in the hole. 0:09:34.320 --> 0:09:35.720 Needs to work on his angles, but we'll get to 0:09:35.760 --> 0:09:38.319 that a little bit later. And you know, Wilson back 0:09:38.320 --> 0:09:39.800 and he's coming back. You know he's coming back. He 0:09:39.880 --> 0:09:42.040 provides that hammer back there as well. So I think 0:09:42.040 --> 0:09:44.599 this is the deepest the safety unit has been in 0:09:44.600 --> 0:09:48.520 an extremely long time. It's ridiculous. One guy goes down, 0:09:48.520 --> 0:09:50.640 the other guy comes in and plays extremely well. So 0:09:50.960 --> 0:09:52.520 it just goes to this team as a whole. I mean, 0:09:52.520 --> 0:09:54.320 this is a deep team right now, and that's what 0:09:54.360 --> 0:09:58.200 you need going forward. I actually walking in here, I 0:09:58.240 --> 0:10:01.000 saw Darry and Thompson doing rehab work out on the field. 0:10:01.720 --> 0:10:05.440 Completely forgot ye Yeah, then I haven't heard that name, right, 0:10:05.920 --> 0:10:10.400 so they already have, which nobody would prefer darry and 0:10:10.440 --> 0:10:12.200 Thompson to be playing a lot of safety snaps. But 0:10:12.280 --> 0:10:16.080 it's just it's another body and a very key special teamer. 0:10:16.120 --> 0:10:18.920 So you add that to what's already on the roster. 0:10:19.520 --> 0:10:22.120 Israel Mquamu is still there. They got like six guys 0:10:22.200 --> 0:10:26.280 that you feel pretty damn good about. It's I mean, yeah, 0:10:26.000 --> 0:10:28.199 it's it's shocking to me. I'm still trying to process 0:10:28.240 --> 0:10:30.839 it because coming into the season, I'm thinking, all right, well, 0:10:30.880 --> 0:10:32.320 I mean, who we got to say? We're gonna have 0:10:32.320 --> 0:10:35.320 Wilson in there, CAZy, but he's coming off an injury 0:10:35.320 --> 0:10:37.520 and then I don't know what he can provide back there. 0:10:37.559 --> 0:10:40.040 And I say this on Cowboys Break all the time, 0:10:40.120 --> 0:10:42.280 So I'm sorry if you're listening and you've heard me, 0:10:42.360 --> 0:10:45.240 But like, I follow the money when the team adds 0:10:45.240 --> 0:10:47.000 a guy, like I look at what they give you, 0:10:47.080 --> 0:10:49.760 and I'm like, what they're willing to pay you says 0:10:49.880 --> 0:10:52.679 what they think of you exactly in my opinion. And 0:10:52.720 --> 0:10:58.040 they gave Kazy, Curse and Hooker combined. The guarantees, not 0:10:58.120 --> 0:11:03.760 the deals, but the guarantees were a million dollars told combine, fine, dude, 0:11:03.800 --> 0:11:07.480 Casey's deal. Casey's deal came with like a one hundred 0:11:07.520 --> 0:11:10.400 and eighty thousand dollars guarantee, which is like nothing by 0:11:10.440 --> 0:11:14.720 the NFL investments. And so I'm saying and so like 0:11:14.880 --> 0:11:16.760 all through the off season, I was like, Okay, like 0:11:16.800 --> 0:11:19.320 the Cowboys clearly don't have a ton of confidence. That's 0:11:19.320 --> 0:11:22.600 just going to work out, and it's working out big time. 0:11:22.760 --> 0:11:25.520 And kind of going along those same points is going 0:11:25.520 --> 0:11:27.400 back to what Barry said a moment ago is in 0:11:27.440 --> 0:11:29.760 the off season, you looked around and you said, Okay, 0:11:29.800 --> 0:11:31.880 who's this kazy guy. Oh, he could do a couple 0:11:31.960 --> 0:11:33.880 things because he's been with Dan Quinn. Who is this 0:11:33.960 --> 0:11:36.640 curse dude? He played special teams? Cool, so I guess 0:11:36.640 --> 0:11:39.160 he's gonna play special teams again. You didn't have confidence 0:11:39.160 --> 0:11:41.199 as a fan base, and then you looked at the 0:11:41.200 --> 0:11:42.960 buddy and you're like, okay, so the coaches don't have 0:11:43.000 --> 0:11:45.000 confidence front off, they even gonna make the team, bro 0:11:45.200 --> 0:11:49.400 are the curse? Curse is probably my favorite story on 0:11:49.440 --> 0:11:53.960 this team right now, just because what he's doing compared 0:11:54.000 --> 0:11:56.480 to what I thought, like kazy. At least Casey was 0:11:56.480 --> 0:12:00.160 a starter. Casey had a seven interception season, so you're like, okay, Like, 0:12:00.200 --> 0:12:04.400 if he's healthy, there's at least a reason to Hooker's 0:12:04.400 --> 0:12:06.680 a fifteenth overall pick, Like you're like, this is Dud's 0:12:06.720 --> 0:12:09.280 got some talent. Uh, you know, Micah Parsons is a 0:12:09.280 --> 0:12:11.360 great story, but he's the twelfth overall pick. You assume 0:12:11.400 --> 0:12:14.199 he's gonna be good even Don't get me wrong, I 0:12:14.240 --> 0:12:17.880 did not see Osa's success coming, but again, top one 0:12:17.960 --> 0:12:21.760 hundred pick that comes with some expectations. Jeron Curse is 0:12:21.800 --> 0:12:23.640 a sixth round pick who's been in the league for 0:12:23.679 --> 0:12:26.200 six years and has never really started more than a 0:12:26.200 --> 0:12:29.040 handful of games in his career. I straight up, I'll 0:12:29.080 --> 0:12:31.839 be very honest. I was like, Okay, this dude at 0:12:31.880 --> 0:12:34.160 best is like a core special teamer and at worst 0:12:34.160 --> 0:12:36.880 doesn't make the team. And now he's playing the most 0:12:36.880 --> 0:12:40.360 snaps on defense, playing well, doing a lot of stuff, 0:12:40.520 --> 0:12:42.720 and I love everything that you just said. My favorite 0:12:42.720 --> 0:12:44.840 thing about him is probably he's got some stuff in 0:12:44.920 --> 0:12:49.600 his neck. Man Like, he plays like a like a 0:12:49.679 --> 0:12:52.920 jerk and in a good way though, Like I think 0:12:53.280 --> 0:12:55.240 he I think he's a tone setter for that defense. 0:12:55.280 --> 0:12:58.280 I love it. I absolutely love it. He's chippy, he 0:12:58.360 --> 0:13:01.320 hits hard, he talks try. I don't know if y'all 0:13:01.320 --> 0:13:05.360 saw Alex's new Sounds of the Sideline came out last night. 0:13:05.360 --> 0:13:07.600 Oh I didn't see it. It's really good as usual. 0:13:08.520 --> 0:13:11.679 There's a scene in there where it's like first second 0:13:11.720 --> 0:13:14.240 quarter when the defense is getting their butts kicked. It's 0:13:14.280 --> 0:13:16.560 like they've given up two touchdowns and Curse is the 0:13:16.600 --> 0:13:19.920 one given the sideline talk and like, wow, a lot 0:13:19.960 --> 0:13:22.360 of times, a lot of times, in my opinion, guys 0:13:22.400 --> 0:13:24.920 talk on the sideline just to talk because there's nothing 0:13:24.920 --> 0:13:28.720 else to do. But like with this scene with Curse, 0:13:28.800 --> 0:13:30.760 like it just looked like everybody was locked in on 0:13:30.800 --> 0:13:32.480 what he was saying, and he was like speaking with 0:13:32.520 --> 0:13:34.680 a lot of authority. And I was like, I don't 0:13:34.679 --> 0:13:37.480 know if he's the dude in that room, but he's 0:13:37.559 --> 0:13:40.080 definitely a voice of consequence for that defense. I mean 0:13:40.120 --> 0:13:41.880 you to see that. Yeah, I love to sit And 0:13:41.960 --> 0:13:44.040 I would have never guessed that he would have been 0:13:44.080 --> 0:13:45.320 that guy, you know. I would have been like, oh, 0:13:45.360 --> 0:13:47.600 it's got to be Tanker Gregory or somebody like that, 0:13:48.160 --> 0:13:51.120 especially seeing as though his background coming from you know, Detroit, 0:13:51.160 --> 0:13:52.920 just being a special team er. I'm thinking, Okay, this 0:13:52.960 --> 0:13:54.480 guy's just gonna come in and do a little bit 0:13:54.520 --> 0:13:56.480 here and there. But like you said, I mean, he's 0:13:56.520 --> 0:13:58.880 tone sitting out there. He's in the box, hitting hard, 0:13:58.960 --> 0:14:01.319 he's covering Will, he's playing well on the back end. 0:14:01.640 --> 0:14:03.400 He's one of those guys that, like you said, there's 0:14:03.440 --> 0:14:05.680 a surprise so far this season, he's been doing two 0:14:05.720 --> 0:14:09.200 things that I think the safety position has lacked for 0:14:09.240 --> 0:14:11.920 a long time, at least in succession. You've had one 0:14:12.080 --> 0:14:14.760 or the other in safeties throughout the course of the 0:14:14.840 --> 0:14:17.760 last decade or so in Cowboys uniform. But he's been 0:14:18.040 --> 0:14:20.120 a hard hitter, Like I said, you've seen that a 0:14:20.160 --> 0:14:22.120 couple different times. But he's also been in the right 0:14:22.160 --> 0:14:24.320 spot at the right time. Because you mentioned it, he's 0:14:24.320 --> 0:14:27.120 not the quickest in the secondary, but he's been in 0:14:27.120 --> 0:14:30.760 the right spot a bunch of times. And he's been 0:14:30.920 --> 0:14:32.840 in a position to make a player. He's been around 0:14:32.840 --> 0:14:35.600 the football. How hard is it to combine those two 0:14:35.640 --> 0:14:38.800 things with playing safety at the NFL level? It's extremely hard. 0:14:39.120 --> 0:14:42.280 Like me, I was more of the box, basically hybrid 0:14:42.320 --> 0:14:45.120 linebacker type safety, So I flourished in the box, not 0:14:45.200 --> 0:14:47.400 so well in the deep part of the field. But 0:14:47.440 --> 0:14:49.040 with this guy, I mean when you're when you can 0:14:49.240 --> 0:14:51.720 combine both of those things, be a great box player 0:14:51.760 --> 0:14:53.480 as well as be great in space, be great in 0:14:53.520 --> 0:14:55.720 man and man coverage, then you're a three tool safety. 0:14:55.840 --> 0:14:57.680 That's what every team is looking for because you can 0:14:57.680 --> 0:15:01.120 make it interchangeable that way with and Wilcox was like, 0:15:01.120 --> 0:15:02.640 one of us is down, one of us is back 0:15:02.680 --> 0:15:04.440 the whole game. So it's hard to disguise that way 0:15:04.480 --> 0:15:06.120 because his teams are like, all right, churches down, is 0:15:06.160 --> 0:15:08.280 he the man? Or he's blitzing or something like that. 0:15:08.360 --> 0:15:10.760 It's hard to disguise that. But when you got safeties 0:15:10.760 --> 0:15:12.960 that are interchangeable like that, you can you can put 0:15:12.960 --> 0:15:15.080 a disguise on anything and mess with people's head, mess 0:15:15.120 --> 0:15:17.320 with quarterbacks heads. And I think that's had a lot 0:15:17.360 --> 0:15:19.240 to do with how they're getting all these interceptions out there. 0:15:19.240 --> 0:15:22.360 They're able to interchange Joe Safety, disguised their coverages and 0:15:22.360 --> 0:15:25.160 it's throwing off these quarterbacks and we're proving to get 0:15:25.200 --> 0:15:27.320 interceptions off of it. So is that more of a 0:15:27.360 --> 0:15:29.960 testament to Dan Quinn and the way he's able to 0:15:30.040 --> 0:15:32.200 use a guy like curse or Is has Curse are 0:15:32.200 --> 0:15:34.200 always been in this guy, but he's just been I think. 0:15:34.240 --> 0:15:36.640 I think dan Quinn and whatever system he's doing right 0:15:36.640 --> 0:15:39.480 now is definitely flourishing for Curse right now, because like 0:15:39.480 --> 0:15:41.600 you said, those six years before this, I mean he 0:15:41.720 --> 0:15:43.800 was he could barely touch the field, and then now 0:15:43.840 --> 0:15:46.640 he comes down here under dan Quinn and he's flourishing 0:15:46.680 --> 0:15:48.600 like this. So I gotta give kudos to dan Quinn 0:15:48.640 --> 0:15:50.280 as well as Curse. And he's playing, he's playing the 0:15:50.640 --> 0:15:53.240 game out there. But dan quinn system has these guys 0:15:53.240 --> 0:15:55.600 all flying around right now. I want if I would, 0:15:55.640 --> 0:15:57.920 it could be a fly on the wall for any 0:15:57.960 --> 0:16:01.480 offseason acquisition this year. I think it might be jay 0:16:01.560 --> 0:16:04.680 Ron Curse, because I want to know who was the 0:16:04.720 --> 0:16:07.280 one that said, look at this guy, look at this 0:16:07.320 --> 0:16:09.800 guy in Detroit, he's a special teams player. He could be. 0:16:10.640 --> 0:16:12.160 It may have been dan Quinn who said this. It 0:16:12.200 --> 0:16:14.000 may have been the pro scouting department that said this. 0:16:14.120 --> 0:16:16.400 Might have been my McCarthy, who knows. It could have 0:16:16.400 --> 0:16:21.280 been Jerry. Somebody could have pointed at Jayren Curse and said, hey, 0:16:21.280 --> 0:16:23.200 you see that guy, he's a free agent. Let's go 0:16:23.240 --> 0:16:25.440 get this guy. Make him one of the better players 0:16:25.480 --> 0:16:27.320 on the back end of our defense. That's a good question. 0:16:27.400 --> 0:16:30.400 My first I mean, obviously, when you're on a role 0:16:30.480 --> 0:16:32.320 like this and we talk about it like it's like 0:16:32.320 --> 0:16:34.880 a snowball effect, like dan Quinn just gets credit for 0:16:35.000 --> 0:16:39.000 anything that happens. I mean, he looks he looks like 0:16:39.000 --> 0:16:42.240 a dan Quinn guy. Like they drafted all these long dbs. 0:16:42.320 --> 0:16:44.200 That's what Jayron Curse is. But at the same time, 0:16:44.480 --> 0:16:47.960 if anybody in this organization had familiarity with him before, 0:16:48.400 --> 0:16:50.200 it was probably Mike McCarthy, to be honest with you, 0:16:50.200 --> 0:16:55.000 because he played in Minnesota before. I mean, that's a 0:16:55.000 --> 0:16:56.640 really good point. I don't know who to give the 0:16:56.640 --> 0:17:00.320 credit to. Man, Maybe they were just like this guy cheap, 0:17:00.400 --> 0:17:04.000 let's get him in here. Joe, I mean, could be 0:17:04.280 --> 0:17:06.600 Joe Wit blew me away. So they made the assistance 0:17:06.640 --> 0:17:10.640 available yesterday. Joe Witt is the secondary coach um sort 0:17:10.680 --> 0:17:13.639 of like he coordinates the back seven. For anybody that 0:17:13.680 --> 0:17:17.440 doesn't know he's he's DC's like number two in the booth. 0:17:17.480 --> 0:17:20.440 I guess. But they made the assistance available and I 0:17:20.480 --> 0:17:24.800 asked him about Curse and Kazy, which ironically, I'm pretty 0:17:24.840 --> 0:17:27.399 sure Demante was like in jail when I asked him 0:17:27.440 --> 0:17:30.960 about you know, the things, the things that you don't know, right, 0:17:31.240 --> 0:17:33.320 the things that you don't know, But he was talking 0:17:33.359 --> 0:17:36.880 about curse specifically, and he said, I'm reading the quote. 0:17:36.920 --> 0:17:38.320 He said, I think he's come in here and his 0:17:38.440 --> 0:17:40.840 role wasn't necessarily to be a leader, but his play, 0:17:40.960 --> 0:17:43.440 his demeanor, his intelligence have put him in that role 0:17:43.680 --> 0:17:45.320 and he's done a really nice job of it. On 0:17:45.359 --> 0:17:47.960 the field. He's very smart, plays with a lot of 0:17:47.960 --> 0:17:50.360 aggression and that makes everybody else want to follow him. 0:17:50.800 --> 0:17:56.879 And I I mean that right there ultimate and he 0:17:57.320 --> 0:17:58.639 I'm not going to read the whole quote, but there 0:17:58.720 --> 0:18:02.000 was another thing about how in Oxnard it became apparent 0:18:02.520 --> 0:18:05.359 that the way that he carried himself and he basically 0:18:05.720 --> 0:18:07.879 Joe Wit more or less, was like, I'm kind of 0:18:07.920 --> 0:18:11.360 a jerk to deal with and he is very direct 0:18:11.480 --> 0:18:13.760 and upfront and like, I don't have to beat around 0:18:13.760 --> 0:18:16.840 the bush with him, and like I he earned my 0:18:16.920 --> 0:18:19.320 respect a lot when I realized that, like, this is 0:18:19.359 --> 0:18:21.600 a grown man that I can like be direct to 0:18:21.720 --> 0:18:24.200 and give points to and he's not gonna worry about it. 0:18:24.200 --> 0:18:27.160 Sames coachable. Yeah, the number one quality gotta be coachable 0:18:27.160 --> 0:18:29.280 out there. That makes that quote. I hadn't heard that 0:18:29.320 --> 0:18:32.320 until just this moment, but that quote makes me like 0:18:33.040 --> 0:18:35.719 Jay Wren Curse even more because not only is he 0:18:35.840 --> 0:18:38.959 showing out on the field, but he's a coachable, respectable 0:18:39.000 --> 0:18:41.520 player in the locker room that helps build the guys 0:18:41.600 --> 0:18:45.040 up around you. I'm fascinated by. And I mean safety 0:18:45.160 --> 0:18:49.440 has been in trouble. I've been whining about the safety's forever. 0:18:49.800 --> 0:18:53.000 Even when Barry was here, I was like, I was like, yeah, 0:18:53.080 --> 0:18:55.040 Barry's a good box, but like, can we get a 0:18:55.080 --> 0:18:59.280 free in here somewhere? But I just I think it's 0:18:59.280 --> 0:19:02.760 so fascinating that like these guys, they're not homegrown players. 0:19:02.800 --> 0:19:06.359 They weren't drafted, they had no experience here whatsoever. And 0:19:06.400 --> 0:19:08.639 even Malie Cooker he plays the least out of the 0:19:08.680 --> 0:19:10.520 three of them, but I think deserves some credit for 0:19:10.800 --> 0:19:14.520